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Friend Walk With Me w/ Julian Shapiro-Barnum

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Friend Walk With Me w/ Julian Shapiro-Barnum

Connor opens the episode with a personal confession: his tan is natural, not fake, and he’s been tanning in California, which stands in contrast to a pale, "sick" version of himself he previously presented. He reflects on his emotional reaction to the film *Remarkably Bright Creatures*, particularly the scene where Sally Field's character releases the octopus, which he says moved him to tears—highlighting the film’s emotional resonance. He praises Lewis Pullman’s performance, noting his striking appearance and powerful presence. The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes, including the Quaker school tradition of "friend walk with me," and both Connor and Julian share traumatic experiences involving their feet—Connor from a fall in Hawaii and frostbite from being locked out in winter, which still affects him today. They also discuss how frequently they look at their own reflections and the discomfort it brings. A playful, vulnerable exchange follows about wanting to "own" others' successes, which leads to a broader discussion of envy, comparison, and personal growth. The episode ends on a note of shared humanity, with both guests reflecting on how real-world experiences—like friendship, trauma, and self-image—have shaped their lives, emphasizing authenticity, emotional vulnerability, and the joy of collective growth.

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Hey guys, it's Connor. I'm here. What is it? Today is Thursday. So we recorded yesterday. Um, and that's this is the week of, and this will be on next week's episode. I want everyone to know. In two weeks, this will be on whatever I want everyone to know I walked in today. And as you said, you are 10. I know that everyone's going to think I had an artificial tan. And I'm going to come clean. I did yesterday. I know. I did yesterday. And that's why I was, you'll notice in the episode I was clinching my fist so you guys wouldn't see that I forget to wash my hands. So they're all my calluses turn like a burnt orange from my alma mater. Texas, University of Texas at Austin are long horns. Um, that's because I bleed burnt orange and that's where I'm from. And that's what I ride till I die. Well, I don't ride it till I die. I ride it for them and I die on top of them, whatever. Um, but I, I'm coming clean. I've been at the beach now. I, I at least get an hour of sun in. So this is real now. And this is who I am. I get tan pretty easily. I'm very lucky for that. Um, and I watched my markably, I've watched remarkably bright creatures last night. That's hard. That's a time. I watched remarkably bright creatures last night. Everyone dogged on me. I think cat. When did we talk about that? Two weeks last week. So okay. And everyone they kind of agreed. Well, I had heard that it was kind of like a throwaway book. And I don't know who I heard that from. Yeah, I cried. I did not cry at Manchester by the sea. They could not gun to my head. Maybe if there was a gun to my head watching Manchester by the sea, I would be bawling because I'd be like, why are you here? Who are you? How'd you get in my hotel room? But it would be unrelated to the storyline of Manchester by the sea because that didn't really affect me at all. Remarkably bright creatures. It's a tongue gesture. It tries to hit. You try to say it. That I'll tell you is I can almost time stamp when I started crying. And I did not stop till it got into credits. I started crying when what's her name? Sally Field starts wheeling. Oh my gosh. Sorry spoiler alert. Skip ahead 30 seconds and then I'll be done. If we're just let's just keep this in the episode we can have less next week. Okay. I started crying when she starts wheeling out this octopus. Did you see it yet? I've been I read the book. Okay. I don't know how accurate it is to the book but the books did not make me cry personally. Okay. Well, so the Matt Sally Field being so fragile when she was in what was she in like 50 for no that she provided a dozen or something? No, was she that woman? Was she the mom? Mrs. Doubtfire. Mrs. Doubtfire. Oh, this has just been like the mom forever. And then now she's older woman and she's like me and this octopus are like brethren in this octopus. I'm going to like release it. And so then I started crying because it was like oh she's like genuinely on last day of work like fuck it. I'm going to release the octopus which like would get her via it's but it's she's like it's like last day of school vibes. Let's just let it go. And I started I don't know why that affected me. Hashtag affected me in such a huge way. But it did. And then I didn't really stop. First of all, that's the ring. I was like make it just like leave it in your tank. The octopus risking it all to keep it in that bucket which like is not realistic. She dumped sack into the ocean. It's like that ring weighed so much. There's no way that you left it in there octopus like with all your might you left the ring in there. And it was that didn't totally like land for me. I think that it would have been better if he like threw it at her forehead or something like. But no, he left it in the tank or in the bucket. And I liked that. And then I didn't stop crying until the very end. I liked that she was just a whole time wondering if her son was happy because she was like blaming it on herself like the death. So did he commit suicide or was it like an accident? Did we figure that out? What I remember I think it was still an accident. Okay, but we don't know. Yeah. But it did flashback in the movie to him. It was an accident. I think that that was the I think his Brooks had something like it answered questions the book didn't. I think that they're throwing everyone like a feel good bone by being like look he's like this was an accident. Yeah, which is good. I was kind of yeah, it doesn't matter. But Lewis Pullman did a really good job and I'm a fan. That was great. I've never seen him in anything. And I don't know who he is besides in paparazzi photos with Jake Shane and Kyle Garber in Mexico. That's the only thing I've seen him in Lewis Pullman. He was really good. And I've never seen someone that looks like him. I think this is the first original looking face I've seen in years or maybe in my life. I don't know anyone he looks like. I don't know where he came from. I don't know where he's going. But I really was a fan. I'm a fan of Lewis Pullman now. Let me see if there was anything else that I had to that I should just get off my church before I leave. No, no, no. And no, I have I have nothing that isn't ever green and I have nothing that isn't timely. So thank you for having me. This is a natural tan. The other tan that was fake washed off. This is real. I do get tan and it will probably be gone by the next time you see me. But know that it was here at one point. It's going to be so shocking to cut from this version of me to like that sick pale version of me that should be at the doctor. But this is what I look like when I live in California. I also got in the sea today for a second. There's a ton of jellyfish that are washing up right now. It happens like once or twice a year. Those blue ones with the sails and they look like used condoms when they roll up and die. But they're all over the ocean and I was in the water. I walked right past them and I just just like I thought it was trash at Santa Monica. So I was like people are fucking right now. And it was not it's it's wildlife and I didn't realize I was in there. They're the ones that float on the top and they have the sale that pushes them in to the beach. And they were everywhere and I was wondering what I was in the water being like why is no one else swimming right now. This is the nicest day. It's that first top left one. Those. I'm just like what a horrible design to have a sale that's pushing you onto the sand when you're in a aquatic creature. You don't want that. So I'm bobbing around like a cauliflower with all these jellyfish. I'm like weird. Why is my neck so itchy? But Santa Monica just makes you itchy anyways. Whether there's jellyfish in there or not. Okay, I guess that's all I got. And thank you guys and I don't know who like surprise. I'm having a guest and I liked that on the last episode I was like you guys are in for a treat. I have no clue who the guest is about to be we're going to cut to some guest. It could be someone I found outside right before or it could be someone that hasn't responded to my texts or emails. But looking forward to seeing who they are. I'll be as surprised as you are. See you. And now enjoy this episode. So we're jumping off of an incredible week. I had like a cold open that I've already done. Got it. And so like I'm not sure. I was actually talking about incredibly remarkably bright creatures. They're incredible as well. But then I jumped to here and I just want to really quickly say welcome back to BNC MAP. Today it's BNJ. Wait, no, it's JNC MAP. We have Julian here today. Okay, let's get it right. Okay, so I'm really good at this. Connor, thank you for having me. You're the person that I don't need to ensure like everybody knows Julian. You guys know obviously we're so therapy outside tonight is coming out really soon. I'm for plugging. Thank you, Connor. I'm plugging everything like right at the very beginning of the episode. Connor, I wanted to come in hot with some Brooke Averk lore. Can I do that? Yeah, please. So I went to middle school, high school, and college with Brooke. And we may be spoke once. Can I also say something? Yeah, I feel like every time you've told me you've added like another two years. No, I have known Brooke my entire life and we did not speak until recently, which I think says a lot about both of us. Yeah, how did that even happen? Did you go to the school that she always talks about that had like very unique practices? Yeah, I can give some lore. So we went to friend central, which is the school that dear Evan Hansen's based off of, which is not something to brag about if you know anything about that musical. Do you? It's a musical about, I don't know the politically correct terms here. Someone who takes the horrible thing here is also like they know our heart. So like our intentions are pure and that's how we're going to this. It's a musical about someone who takes their own life and then someone pretends to be that kid's best friend. So that's what our high school was. But our school is a Quaker school so we had to to sit in silence all the time. and my favorite fun facts about it was that we saw you just sit in silence every week on Wednesday and there were two things that could happen. If you weren't being inappropriate, an elder could stand up and say, "Friend walk with me." And if you get friend walk with me, that's like, you're done. And if you're talking for too long, an elder could stand up and say, "Friend, you've been heard." And that means shut the fuck up, how old are we? Middle school and high school. So, oh, that went into high school? So, you guys would be 15, like 11 through 5. And you'd get a friend walk with me? I never happened to me. Of course, why would it happen to you? I was like, very well, yeah. Did you go to high school? Yeah. (laughs) They let you. They let me go to high school. Our high school is very different. A lot of hand stuff. What, oh, oh, I know what that means. Yeah. But, so we weren't getting friend walk with me. Oh, we were doing down by the river by the Hanky Hanky Hanks. Old frog jumps from bank to bank. I love those games. But we didn't have elders. We had people that were held back for several years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had super, super senior. Yeah. Oh, super, super. And then we had the people that they were super elders. And they were just people that would graduate and then just still hang out on the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm coming to baseball games and things. But we didn't have any elders. So, it's a Quaker school. We have talked about. So many kids get expelled and so many teachers get fired. Did you have that? We had a kid put cameras in the girls locker room. We had like a lot of bad stuff going on in our high school. But Brooke and Julian came out and escaped. Wow, yeah, really. Not how many people went there. How did you guys get by without ever interacting? We were both weird. There's no way. Yeah. We didn't, we weren't. We both didn't take it. Well, I took a lot of space. But I was also, she, we didn't overlap too much. She's three years older than me. Okay. So I was like coming in and then she was on her way out. And I was like, oh my God, it's Brooke average. That's Brooke. Let's start this, Laura. I just had the biggest crush on her. Oh, you did it. No, I didn't. Oh. I just every, you know, I got to middle school and I was like, here's my chance. And then she went to high school and then I got to high school and I was like, now's my chance. And I was like, damn it. So then I went to be you to follow her. And then I got to be you. And then I missed my chance. Really? Walk with me. Okay. Friend, walk with me over here. No, that's incredible. It's just like so, so bizarre because I thought you guys were messing with me the first time I heard that. No, I mean, I don't know her that well, but we have been around each other our whole lives, which is very strange. I love, I've been around, I've been with her twice, no matter where, I know her pretty well. Yeah. I've been with her twice when you've faced time to her. And I think she's been with me twice when you've faced time to me. And, and the takeaway is that I don't remember what the end goal of me sharing that was, but I think it's what you are like a face timer, like you're just like a call from Julian. Connor, can I ask you my first question? Yeah. What's your earliest memory of using Snapchat? So Julian brought questions for me to the podcast because like, I brought in nine questions for Connor. You was like, worried about how this would go? Which I love. No, I was in the car over, I was like, oh, I have, we haven't gotten to the one that started this all. I was scared about your body. That's how this started. Yeah. Oh my god, my body. Thank you for reading that up. The first thing that I wrote, we'll get back to Snapchat was, what do you love most about your body cotter? That's what I just wanted to know. What do I love most about my body? It's constantly surprising me. Yeah. Yeah. But like, if you had an arrow down like right now, what's, yeah, let's have some put ups. Physically, what's my favorite thing about my body? Yeah. Like my physical, like what is the body? Front facing. Yeah. Nothing on the inside. Yeah. And nothing like going on. No, I don't need to know about that. Okay. Favorite front facing public part of your body? Hmm. Well, like everyone, one, one that, um, one that people see, well, Brooke and I talk about it all the time. I think I have pretty nice feet. I needed it. I wasn't expecting, well, I wasn't expecting to like do this, it was like 8 a.m. And I just stuff my toe really bad. But yeah. No. Well, people have such an issue with my feet, they're like, oh, yeah, I'm on a bomb. I'm going to throw up. I'm going to go myself like I'm like, you are going to. Okay. I guess I will too. We're here. Oh, you have nice feet too. Oh, but we're going to show the bottom of the feet on that. Okay. Right. Let's compare feet Conner on the pod. Brooke, no worries. We got it held down while you're, while you're working. No, let me just double check that I'm, yeah, I'm good. Do we? Wow. Oh, well, don't look at that toe. Um, wait, can you get, can I see the top though? Yeah. You do have nice. They're smooth. What's your tattoo say? I got it. It says right place, right time. I would say a bad quality of mine is I over cut my toenails. Okay. No, I think that's a good quality. Who has been going to go foot to foot? You do. Yeah, but I'm taller than you. Yeah. This is intimate. This is really good. This has never been done before. No one's doing it like us. No one's doing it like, oh, Brooke. When you hear about this, um, what was I going to say about my feet? The shame of putting your socks back on. Yeah, I know. It's like post foot clarity, um, I don't show that toe very often because, and this is my trouble toe because I, when I go get a pedicure, I have to be like, please, please, please, just like, I know that toe is, I'm sorry. But I know that toe, like, looks like it really, like, needs some attention. Like it's a lost cause that toe. And what no one's going to understand, like, it's not for lack of hygiene. Now I'm like, digging my huger over thinking, okay, well, basically I jumped off a rock at my, like, junior high school or college, we went to Hawaii and we were all like, jump to the other rock on the North Shore and I was mostly trying to film like friends, and jump off. And I was like mostly like trying to get, trying to be Jay Alvarez and like try to get a clip. And I landed just like straight up on a rock and I came up and it was one of those things where it's like, okay, yep, oh, yeah, that's going to be like a larger issue than an immediate fix. And I'm swimming back to shore. And the screen mist should skip 15 seconds ahead. I'm swimming back to shore and I like could, I didn't feel any like pain right away, but I was like, that's kind of like, come in a huge way. And I could feel like the skin of my foot like dragging as I was swimming and I turned around and it's just red behind me. Oh, really? Yeah. And the worst part is it's like a, the worst thing that could happen to me as a, an 18, year old is the lifeguards had to come, like help me did that. And they had to, they couldn't even get me stitches because it was like so shredded. So they just had to wrap it up. It gets worse. I go back to college. This is like prime time making friends, like making long time life time friends, sophomore year, I think actually. And I have to wear flip flops. I have to wear one flip flop. Where'd you go to call? Oh, because you couldn't wear shoes. Well, I couldn't wear one shoe, but I was like trying to like show everybody like, this is not who I am. So I'd wear like one normal shoe and one flip flop. The only thing that sucked is like, I had to wrap my one big toe in a cartoonishly huge, like dropped an anvil on your foot. We won't, we won't, like that style wrap. Yeah. So it was like normal foot, normal gorgeous foot, huge honking big toe wrapped like. And it would like, it would like soak through and calculus. And I'd have to like, step out and re-wrap it. So there was one day when I got on Yicac, which was a thing that like, you would not know what that is because you, I do know what that is, I've never used it. Yeah. Circling that's your question about how long I've been on Snapchat. I was around. So Yicac came out and there was just someone that Yicac's like, there is this disgusting guy with his old bloody toe out every day in my calculus class and he like, won't put it away and I climbed it back and was like, maybe he can't put it into a shoe, maybe he can't wear a normal shoe. So I was this guy with like, like flip flops on and nobody liked the flip flop. Connor, I have a really similar trauma. Do you really? So like, really similar. When I was in high school, I had to walk my dog every day, hear me out, but one time it was the winter and I wanted to walk my dog and I stepped outside to do it only to realize that it was freezing out. Door slams behind me, I don't have shoes or socks on. There's snow on the ground, I'm locked out of my house with no shoes or socks on for like 20, 30 minutes. and I got frostbite on my feet. - You got actual frostbite? - I got actual frostbite on my feet. I was stuck outside for like so long, my mom had to come home from work. I was like freaking out. I was like in so much pain, I was crying. It was bad, it was my fault. And then I couldn't wear shoes or socks for a while. So every, 'cause it like, I'd like these burns all over my feet from the cold. And so in math class and Spanish class, I had to be no shoes and a socks for like a really long time. And people didn't like it. No shoes, no socks, nothing, just toes spread. - And were they like covered in red sores? - Sorry that I've only seen frostbite in the movies, but were your feet like black? They were like burn like red dots everywhere. - No way. - I'm trying to decide if I want to tell the bad part of this. - I think you've told the funny part. I really do think that like, I don't think it was that much of a shock to the thing, the other things that were happening at your school. Like I feel like my friend come off of me. Like that kind of goes with-- - I can even walk. - I didn't expect any of them to have shoes on it. That's cool. - Yeah, I have frostbite. And it still affects me to have frostbite? - Well, like I have some nerve damage on my feet. And so whenever it gets really cold, it acts up and it like tingles and burns. And sometimes I have to take my shoes and socks off. But I'm okay. I'm okay. I live with this every day. I have it right now. - I feel like you're cross-bearing. - I'm afflicted with the frostbite. It's actually what I have is chill blades, which is like not as intense. Just for those out there, for those medics out there. - Wait, I want to hear the-- - Oh, the not funny part? - That's like a little bit weird that I do think is worth saying is I had-- No, I'm gonna add it myself. I'll tell you later. - Okay. - I think it'll open a door that isn't not, doesn't need to go down. - Okay. - But it's funny. - I believe you. - I'll tell you later. - It's okay. - It's good. Do you want my second question? - Yeah, we could go into that. I, and it's, is it like a good transition? - Yeah. - Okay. I don't want to force you to use your-- No, I like-- - Okay. - This question too is how often do you look at your own reflection? - That is so weird that you said that. And I'm so glad you read that. I'm like having a thing right now where people are trying to limit screen time. I'm trying to limit mirror time. And I'm not even like-- - Yeah. - I feel like we're really exposed to our own reflection so often. Now, I be glancing car windows, storefront windows. - You unlock your phone and your front camera's open and it's like, oh, like that's what I feel like. I am seeing myself too often. And I don't know what effects that's having on me. - Do you ever go to the bathroom? You're out with friends and you can go to the bathroom just to remember what you look like? - The way that I don't do it consciously, but if they don't have a mirror, I'm like, I hate this place, this bathroom is bad. Like, where are we? 'Cause part of bathroom time is remembering your face time. - That's the only reason I wash my hands. (laughing) - I wasn't about to mess today. And this guy bee lined it from a stall to out, missed the sink. I wanted to kill him. - Yeah, that's tough, from stall to outdoor. - And I knew her. - Outdoor. That'll change the way you do someone. - It was somebody in the office who didn't work out whose dog I like. Miranda's dad. - Should we do an ugly better? - No, okay. - Miranda, the dog's bad. - You should be washing your hands. There's a lot going on right now. - It's a lot going on, especially in your own bathroom stall. - 100%. - And there's people that walk among us. - I feel like the more I look at myself, the more I notice things. - What are you noticing? (laughing) - Changes, changes. - Changes. - Do you think you're ever gonna look older than you do today? - I don't know 'cause I haven't really aged in like 15 years. - I think you look young. - A lot of people do. - But not too young. You look like an adult. Two things have happened recently. One, we were doing a show somewhere and there was a prom at our hotel and they were like, - You know you were a child? - Are you checking in like a loan? And I was like, yeah, you're not, they thought I was there for the prom. - That's awful. - And I was like, low key, I could have a kid at this prom. - Kind of. (laughing) - No. - But, and then there was a, I was getting on a flight and they were like, are you traveling alone? I was like, what do you mean? - They thought you were a teenager. - Minor. - They thought I was like below 18. - People constantly think I'm in my, people constantly think I'm like six years older than I am. - What? - Yeah. - Oh, I don't see that. I'm 26, people always think I'm like 32. - It's a really weird time from 26 to 32. I feel like that's when, that's when I'm like, no, man's land. I'm 60. (laughing) - I'm 60. - And I feel good. - Are you 28 or 29? - It doesn't matter here. - Here in this room? - No. - Is here the any age you want? - And here, family can look like anything here. What are your body goals right now? - My body goals. You're working out? - Yeah. - I'm working out. - Do you do more pushing or pulling? - Probably more pushing because I'll skip poll day a lot, but I wish that I'm wearing a sweater. - Do you see it through the sweater, kind of? - That's good. - Thanks. See here, Jillian said that's good. I mean, you're just really, you're toned and you're lean. That's what I want. That's my body goal. See me more toned and lean. - Here's what you gotta do. - Okay. - Crossfit. - No, I'd rather be right where I am today. Crossfit every day. You gotta be doing snatches. You gotta be gotten up every day four a.m. And you gotta be in the free weights. - It's just not a big thing. - It's just like really not a realistic thing for me. And I'm on Instagram every day. The thing you just said about the gym, four a.m. every day, Instagram. - Oh, you're like in the Instagram. Where do you go? What kind of gym are you at? - Well, right now I'm at hotel gyms 'cause I don't have an apartment. - Are you trying to do a Jake Shane? - I don't think I have the discipline that Jake has. - He saw it, he locked in and he locked in. - Yeah. - Yeah, he looks awesome. - He looks amazing. - Yeah. - I have a screenshot of that in my save folder. - Yeah, no, it's good for that. - I went for that. - I've got an Instagram saved in my workouts folder that I don't ever open again. But yeah, I have all these workouts. But I join this gym. I actually like, this is like not a flex, but kind of is like, I did get invited to the allo gym. - Really. - And they're gonna show them we'll probably hear this. But I did get invited in my head. I said, I want to work to a base level and then go to the allo gym so I'm not showing up. And I'm just working on that base level right now still. But I'm okay with that. I feel good. But I'd like never really worked out ever until like three years ago. I was just running and then I felt so weak all the time. - Yeah. - And then I started working out. Just a little bit. - What made you feel weak? - I stopped you on the street. Nice outfit. What makes you feel weak? I couldn't even do like a push up. I couldn't do a single pull up. I couldn't do a single dip. - Okay. - And I just wanted to be able to do that. - My goal is a little different. - Okay. - I do not care about physically getting stronger. I have not found myself in a situation where like, I wish I could lift this. - Okay. - I simply want to look better. - It's 100%. They're like, what are your goals? You want to get stronger? Don't care. - Oh really? Mine was that like I was a very malnourished child. - Okay. - I was raised by two very small women, my moms, and they didn't feed me enough growing up. - In general? - Yeah. The doctor was like, you're not feeding this kid enough. - No. - They were like, you're feeding him. Well, they're like, what are you feeding him? They're like, what we eat? And they're like, well, you need to feed him more. And then you're six-four. - Yeah. - And then two, let's not spread rumors here. - Well, you can't be six-two if I'm six-foot. - Six-foot. - Something's wrong. And then when I got to college, I was like, oh, food? I could feed myself. And then that's when the eating started. And then things got better. - Good. - Yeah. - It's good to show eating. - It's so great. 'Cause then you have autonomy over what you put in your mouth. - Yeah. I was so cheap. I actually had, when I went to college, I was trying my best to be healthy. So I just like, would not eat. That's the best way to be healthy. - Yeah. Well, 'cause I was like, okay, if I'm gonna go drink beers, you know, I'm not gonna eat. Which is just like, it's not tip for tat. You know, it's like, you should probably eat if you're gonna go have drinks. But I went to UT Austin. - Great. - Welcome. - So, yeah, it was fun time. But I remember there was one place I would go every day that would like, really, really good. And it was healthy. It was a rap place. And I went every day. So like, the young one behind the counter, and I had some rapport. And there was one time when she would always give me a lot of like, extra protein and extra hummus. And like, I was like, this is awesome. I'm like, we such like a good thing going. And then one day she wrote her number on the rap that she wrapped my rap in. And for me, it was just like, you're my rap girl, you know? - Yeah, you ruined this. - And then I never went back. 'Cause I was like, I don't wanna, I don't wanna-- - You never really helped me again. - Well, then it was all downhill, you know? No, that was like, it's one of those things that happens to me a lot because I think that we're lacking like in general, like as a larger population, we're lacking general kindness. So when I show kindness to people, people are like, you know, a waiter pulls up a chair to the table at dinner. I'm like, okay, now we cross the, 'cause I was just like being, you know, like we're having fun, but like, one time when I was a waiter, I was, there was this couple and I was being super friendly with them and I was like, just like chatting them up. I love being a waiter, I love chatting with people and the guy, this is when I was in college and the guy was like, I run a swimsuit company and I was like, oh my God, if you ever need a model for it, I could do that. Yeah, he was like, great, great, great. I was like, cool, cool, cool. They left, they checked out. He came back in like a minute later. He's like, oh my God, forgot to get your information. I was like, oh yeah, sure. They exchanged information, I give them my number. That night he texted me. He was like, you should totally come model for the company. I was like, great. I would love to model for the company. He says, what are you doing tomorrow morning? I was like, oh, let's just like, I was like, let's do it. He was like, great, let's talk about it. Do you wanna, don't get coffee? I was like, great. He was like, great, I'll come, I'll come right by you. I was like, wow, this is all happening so fast. I meet up with this guy as an older gentleman and I go to the coffee shop and I walk up and he's pacing outside and I'm like, hey, and he's like, oh my God, I'm really nervous, I'm really nervous. I'm sorry, I smoked a little bit of weed, I was so stressed and I was like, what's going on? He's like, I have not stopped thinking about you since yesterday and I was like, oh, he's like, I just, I was on a date last night but the second I saw you, it's all I've been able to think about. I was in a relationship. I was married for 35 years but my wife realized I was gay and got a divorce for me and she's right and I realized that you are my type and you'd think maybe I would be scared but he, I was in the power position in this situation. Right, and he was like, do you want to maybe go back to your house or maybe to my car? And this is what, this morning, this is like 730. He had to my car 730? Yeah, this is like 730. Let's knock this out. And I was like, no, he was like, okay, he's like, do you have any friends who look like you? I was like, hmm, he was like, what do I do and I was like, wait, I've got it. Have you ever heard of Fire Island? He was like, what's that? I was like, wait, go to Fire Island. He was like, okay, and then I was like, I'm going to go. And he was like, I'll give you a hug and I was like, no. And then I left. And then two weeks later I got a call from his number which I hadn't saved and I go, hello and he goes, hi, it's whatever his name was. I went to Fire Island. You saved my life. Everyone here looks like you. It's amazing here. And I said, hi, please, please never call me again, but I'm really happy. And then I hung up. So you can't be nice to anybody. Yeah, I think you did a really good thing. I handled it well. Yeah, I think you did a really good thing and you might have like rerouted his whole life. Him from like something that like, he was on a bad path. Yeah. Um, I like this wife, wife realized he was gay and she was right. So she's right. Uh, and you're just like, yeah, of course it's great. You know, that's a big, big head. That's a big head. Yeah, that's a big head. Yeah. I mean, I think she's already working on it, but that is like a, that's a great story line. I don't know what it, I mean, like, you can't tell me what's going to happen to her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's already working on it. But that is like a, that's a great story line. You sure? I mean, like, you can't tell me anything because I'll tell everybody, but I think of which. Oh, my book. Yes. How to grow out without becoming a grown up is out August 4th, where all books are sold. It's a little like Phoebe, but not about sex or having it, but about being, how to connect with your, how to be more like a kid again. I need to read that really bad. It's actually good. Just play with it. What are they saying? Oh, don't read the review. Okay. Put that there. There we go. And this is a misprint. It's not going to be the small, I like the size of it. That's what I said. They said no. Well, I've been traveling with Phoebe for months in my, in my backpack. It's like, I'm sure it's like completely fine, but I like to have it in my bag. This is, and I'm like scared I'm going to mess it up, you know, because the copy I have is also, it's a, it's not hard back, not, yeah, yeah. But she just, she'd launched in New York the other day, and she had her big, her big one. It was so fun. And it was so fun. It was a noble one. Well, she had, she had her first live show, and it was so good. What was the live show? It was kind of like a moderated Q&A with another author, oh, another author. It's just based on her name, but she was so awesome. I got to talk to her after two, and she's in, she's an author, and she's just, it was really, really good. I had so much fun. If you haven't gotten Brooke's book yet, yeah, she get, check that out. Definitely go check it out. Hers is so good. A lot of people are reading, they're finishing it now, and they're passing me. I've told her I finished it, but I'm, I, are you a slow reader? I just like, when I read, I lock in for a long time, but I have to, it's incredible what reading does to my brain. It like, immediately, it reminds me of 10 things I have to do, and I have to do them now. Expeditiously. So it'll be like, you know, I'll start doing it, and I'm like, oh my god, I didn't do X, like my, my housing application for my next apartment. And I'm sitting in a hotel reading Phoebe, but it's so good. It's really good. I thought I thought about writing a book, which was so painful and hard. How long did it take you? Years. Years. I didn't, so they were like, you should do like a book, because you've interviewed like thousands of kids, and I was like, yeah, sure, sure, sure. And then I met with the penguin people, and they were like, great, let's do the book. And then they were like, do you want someone to write it for you? And I was like, how dare you. Yeah. I was like, write a book, write my book for me. I couldn't possibly, I'll do it myself, and I did, but oh boy, I've never done that. For you. That's every word in there is a word I picked. And the thing about that is that if I'm not working on it, if I wasn't working on it, nobody else was. And so I had to like turn my phone off, which I don't like to do, and actually work on it, which I don't like to do. That's right. Well, that's like a, yeah, when it goes from being something that's like fun, and it like really fun to being work, it's like, I actually, I was like, I was like, oh, I stopped having to do this in college. But then I'm very proud of it. I really liked it. It just was a lot of work. And it wasn't like, I'll just chill all the time. Right. Because then it's like, there has to be like some level of comfort, too, with it being like, okay, if I'm not working on this, nobody else is, because you have such a unique entry way into this, because you have done all the work. So like, you're the only one that could write this. I would, I get worried all the time. Things that I'm working on behind the scenes, I'm like, oh, every day I wake up like waiting to open my phone and see a deadline article, and it's like, something I've been working on has now, that's how I feel within an hour, someone else, I'm going to be like, oh my god, should have worked faster. But then when you're really spending time on it, and you want to get it right, and you know one other people to do it for you, one can do it like you, Connor. Right. You're take on your comedy about five best friends living in New York, trying to get started. No one will do it like that, like you, that is not directive, that is not directed, directive, whatever way to put it. Yeah. Right. You're, you're pilot. No, the way that I see you about five young people living in Queens. And the message I'm sending, all the message I'm sending, no, it's, it's the parallel thinking has gotten like, I think it was so incredible for people in our world too. It's so cool. I feel like I was talking to Brooke about this. I think our last episode that came out, I think we took a week off actually, but which we don't do very often. But I think the last time we talked, we were just talking about how like everybody in our like direct circle is like coming out with like very legitimate real world wins that are tangible. I feel like everyone's leveling up right now. It's crazy. I feel like everyone kind of, I, I talk about this a lot. I feel like everyone kind of like, well, I feel like our class of people or our, our grade of people if you want to talk about it like that, everyone like came out with their thing. Yeah. Like everyone got known for what they were doing or everyone like became known. And now I feel like everyone's like, like fighting for their next thing or like coming out with their next thing or like staking their claim on their next endeavor. And that's very exciting and interesting. - It is interesting, and it's exciting too. I found a very interesting thing about myself is that I want everyone's when I want other books. - Yeah, I want your book. I want my friend's baby. I want my other friend's failing company that I just want to be like I tried it in a failed. Like I want everybody's thing. - Oh, you want it all yourself. - Yeah, but I also am excited for my friends. It's just, I need to, I want to do everything, you know? - Well, that's the thing you can't. - Yeah, by the way, when I said I want your book and I was joking. - Oh, no, man. - No, you can put your, we can add your name so. - We could probably add it. - I did text you. - I don't want it somewhere. Like a little, very, like if you went and went, like a consultation from God, or what? - A little like darker font than the background color just so that if you hold it under a black light and see it. I literally texted one of my friends jokingly. I don't know, who is like a songwriter? Who won a Grammy? And I was like, can I just give you like the word D for one of your next songs so I can just like, you know, I don't, I'm not working on a Grammy. I want it though. - We're going for an Emmy right now. - You're getting an Emmy. That's all right, I'll wait on about that. - You're getting an Emmy, and guess what? - You can say that. - I want your Emmy and Connor and Connor, and it would be yours too. You know what? Maybe you should start like trying to get ownership rights over other people's work. Maybe you should become like a scooter brown, like a scooter brown type figure. And you should like be like, I have like a, that's so rave in like, you're like, I don't need to make my own work. I'll just take percentages of other people's work. - Sydney Sweeney crawls out at the back of my shirt. I'm here. Yeah, no, I, it's gonna, it's all, it's like, whenever I'm like, I'm 100% kidding, and I'm being very transparent right now, like vulnerable. - No, I, human needs in once. - No, I feel that way too. I, I'm a, one of my, did I write this one down or did I just think it? One of my questions, can't get over like the questions that you can in it. I didn't write this one down, but it was something I was thinking about. I didn't know how to formulate it well, but I find that jealousy and envy are unavoidable, and I don't, I'm trying not to be hard on myself for feeling them. - Yeah. - Like I, like I, I compare myself, I be, I be wanting what other people be having. - Yeah. - And, and I just, I'd be at peace with it instead of not trying to fight it. - Was that one of your questions? - No, I was just not okay about. - Yeah, I, I found that it's not as much jealousy 'cause I'm genuinely so happy for people, but I'm like, - Yes, yes, yes, yes. - But I like, but no, no, actually. No, it's the comparison thing that is like so hard. Brooks had something really good the other day, actually, when she was talking about, we get asked questions about adulting a lot, which is funny and like that was a word that kind of like phased out, but it, yeah, I mean it, it's, it's literally like, saying doggo, you know, like, puppers, you know, it's like, it's very millennial. What are you, like, like, adulting? But, like how people compare each other, like, you know, you compare yourselves other people, and Brooks just said, like, there's probably people comparing themselves to you, so. That's a good way to, that's a good way to put it. I always say, like, I like to compare myself to people doing work. - People compare you to crazy things. - You don't help me 'cause I get a lot of dms, like I promise you anything you're about. - No, people are always like, you know what I'm just about to say? - No. People always like, Amelia, Erhardt, I got the other day. - That's what I was gonna say. - Just based on the way she looks. - People always say like, you look like crazy shit. - Yeah, no, I know. - You're like, everything. You know what, I'm every woman, they're all in me. - I was caught about you. - I'm a mother, I'm a maturely born baby. Like, I know, they've said it all. I'm a terracotta pot, but I'm, everything everywhere all at once. - I look like a lot of butch women. - I've gotten mass-class men. - Yeah, me too. - Which is great, like, that's such a win, you know? - Can I ask you one of my questions? - Yeah. - This is just one quick one. I need to pull up my notes as well, so you know that I have notes. - Okay. - Conner. - Conner. - Okay. - This is a quick one. - Oh, can I say an inappropriate one? - Yeah, I'll hear you, Ken. I like, I didn't want to say anything. - No, I'm here with you. - Okay, now. - Okay, okay. - I've rebranded. - Okay, well, this is not the inappropriate one. - Yeah, I was gonna say first thing I saw this morning, was like thirsty, Iking here. It was 8.35 a.m. Thursday, I was like soaking wet with the hose. I was like wet t-shirt contest, jolian outside. Like, when did you follow that? - Yeah, like two weeks ago. - Oh, I was gonna say, did you do that this morning? Is that why you had to change your clothes coming in? - No, I'm going to elementary school out for those. - Okay, Conner. - Perfect. - If Morocco, audio listeners, he's dry. - I'm dry now. - Listen, listen carefully. - If Morocco is the biggest-- - No, no, a dirty question. - No, it's not the dirty question. - Okay. - If Morocco is the Boston of Africa, what is the Boston of Europe and the Boston of Asia? - I don't know enough about Morocco. - It's the Boston. - It's the Boston of Africa, but just based on context because of your reverse engineer. - Is Shanghai the Boston of Asia? - Shanghai the Boston of Asia. Like, let me see if this was taken out of context, what that would look like, okay. Okay, I think I'm okay with it. - If Boston's the Morocco of Africa, what else is true? That's the setup here. - No, it's very clear. - You're like, "I don't know. "I don't know what to say." Boston, okay. - Where's my phone? - Freak me out. - Let me think. - Found it, I need to look at my own reflection. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What is it? (laughs) - Cool, any more? Was that Brexit? - Yeah. - Okay, like, I didn't, I will be honest with you. I didn't really keep up with Brexit. - I would not happen, but it's my hair look crazy today. - Okay. - Yeah, Brexit wasn't really on my radar. - Okay, next question. - Okay. - When my answer would be Ireland. (laughs) - Okay. - And probably Dublin. - Okay. - For the same reasons as when Tom Cruise comes. - Oh. - Let's take that again. (laughs) - When Tom Cruise comes, does he shoot back or does she get shot up? - Oh, like, okay. (laughs) - These are my questions. - I don't think Tom Cruise has sex any longer, besides with inanimate objects that they provide at his complex choice of church, which I don't even like to say on the podcast 'cause I'm genuinely pretty scared. - Have you been seeing those like raids that are coming on this? - Yeah, so funny. - It's making me like less scared of Scientology, but it's just like a boring building. It's so corporate in there. - Okay, I thought that they like full-blown cannot even like kill you. - No. - They don't know. - Have you seen all the pictures of, keep wanting to say choice of on, but John Travolta, two sides of the same coin. - I understand, and you made that leap. - Yeah, two sides of the same coin. - I love him in his like, beret doing this. - Yeah. - 15 times. - Yeah. - I saved it on my phone. - It's a good picture. - Yeah. Cats, dogs, or freedom of all creatures big and small. - Okay. I like want to say freedom of most creatures big and small. - I do like to, people, it's beneficial for a lot of animals to be in my home. - How many animals do you have in captivity? - I have had so many. - Have you ever captured an animal and it's died while you've had it? - Yeah. - Me too. Like a salamander or something? - A blue bird. Ooh, how'd you, it was like a sick bird. Which I thought it was really like, I thought it really liked like hanging onto my finger. - It was like on its last couple minutes. (laughing) - It was like a minute. - Full blown bird flew like on my fingers and I had it. - That's a good bird. That's a good bird. I'm a millionaire hard. - And then it died. - And then it passed on. Yeah. Like while you were touching it, the life moment's after. Like I have whatever, like with green, not green thumb, like the kiss of death. - The black thumb. - Yeah. Like your foot. - Your foot to God's ear. Good night. - How did you end the podcast? Good night. - And then I had a snake that I was feeding, which I was misguided by, I wrote an entire essay to get these new pets growing up. I had to write essays to my dad and my mom on why I should have these pets. And I wanted to snake. - A snake. - A snack and then I got the snake. And I don't even know what the snake was called. But it died because they sold us crickets to feed a snake, which didn't make sense. And then that's right. - It just didn't make it very long. And then when I took it back in, they were like, here's another one. And I was like, I don't feel comfortable getting another animal from you guys, 'cause I can't be killing animals painful. Yeah, it was tough, and I was like 12, and that was like a learning moment for me, and then I got the pig. I've been talking about the pig. - Uncriceless. I don't know if I talked about the pig on here, but I had a pig for a little bit who I gave to a farm. There was a while that popularized teacup mini pigs where like around, and everyone was, well, I don't know if everyone is getting them, and my world, everyone is getting these, and the world I was living in, everyone's getting teacup mini pigs, and so I had to get one, I had to have one. And then I got one on Craigslist 'cause it was available. It was like, I saved up my dermatologist as begging me to pay for my appointment. Call someone else. He was saying your dermatologist was part of the pig story. - The pig rings that I was running? - No, just me. So I get this pig, and I can't tell my parents. So it's in my room, and pigs are very, very smart. So it was potty trained very quickly, and it was summer, so the pig wasn't by itself, very often at all, it was taking with me. - No, you had friends. - Yeah, and so it wasn't like cooped up in a room or anything, but it was very, it was like this big. - Then my mom found out, so then she started liking the pig, and then it was okay. - And then my dad found out. - And then he got a divorce. - All my fault. But no, then someone in the neighborhood found out and called the POA on us, the property association that we had livestock. - Wow. - And this gated tennis court neighborhood, and you're like, that's my sister. - Yeah, and then my parents were fighting tooth and nail to keep this pig, and we were like, there was a, we were gonna be like that family with the pig. Anyways, I ended up like, they were like, we gotta just have to, we have to, yeah. Family's gotta eat, so we have to, we have to eat the pig now. His name is Iggy. His, he, him, he, him, Iggy. And then I take him to a farm, not a metaphor. I took him to a farm, and I dropped him off, and they're like, we'd love to keep him. And I go back, six months had gone by. It was like, I think we started traveling for summer or whatever, and we come back, not six months. Sorry, I'm in high school, like six months. But we traveled, and then I started school, and it was like soccer season, so it was like six months before I went back to this farm. I go back and I go, where's Iggy? And they're like, right there, he's giant. And I'm like, no. He is the size of a Volkswagen Jetta, a hundred nipples, 400 babies, all suckling on a teet, a teet for each. And Iggy's a large and in charge woman. So I used to go to a farm for fun in college when we were bored. We'd go to Drumlin Farms, Massachusetts. And there were all these beautiful goats, except for this one. And they had this like barn out back, where they had these two 600 pound pigs that were too big to kill. They couldn't get, they were too big to move. Yeah, they couldn't get them on the truck to kill them. So they were just waiting it out. And these things, like you'd look at them and it'd be like, yeah, they're like it was a hard, it was a hard watch. Like it was like, it was like these things shouldn't exist. Yeah, like they could kill me. I know and they do. And they show in Texas and like in East Texas, maybe it's West Texas. Okay, I remember, there are very, very, very, very, very large feral pigs that are wild. And they, and they're bad for the environment. They're actually very detrimental to like the actual, like the plants and the wildlife and the chain of whatever. And they genuinely blow them up with like landmines. Landmines, like damn, which is crazy. They kill people though. Like they genuinely will go and mall you. I want to show, I'm going to show you a picture. Okay, huge pig, huge pigs hunting East Texas. You're going to be like, oh, that's like not real, but you have, I guess you won't, because you, I believe you. I don't know if we can, is there a way we could zoom? Or maybe I can just share the image, but that's, that's one. And it's running around and it's. That's in America. That's, yeah, that's in West Texas. I mean, it's a size of six men. Hold it, yeah, you're this camera. Wow. Yeah. So they do blow them up as they should. Yeah. No, I don't believe in violence in any shape or form. I, yeah, population control is really weird, 'cause like I don't, I. It's like the pythons and stuff too. Yeah, that makes me sad too. But I mean, people eat 'em too. Mm-hmm. This goes down a complicated path. Yeah. I have something. Yeah, what did you bring in, man? So I, I hand wrote, so nine questions. The way we operate here is like very not organized, but like what's beautiful is it does you and I is, like you and I and Brooke, like I'll have that thing. Or it's like that brings me here. It brings me here, it brings me here. That's what Brooke and I talk about. How it's really hard for us to do other people's podcasts because there is some sort of structure in place and I'm like, everyone's like, should I prepare anything? I'm like, no. I know I didn't have to bring this in. I really just, in the car over, wrote some nonsense down, so that would be fun. Well, I lost sleep over having you today. And I also, but there was a good. Several reasons why, because one, I have been, like my apartment that I signed the lease on, what is starts next month. So, and I moved out on May 1st. So, I've been couched or a thing. I've had some shows and things in different places, but I've been crashing at people's houses, singing hotels. And I met, I am the person who sublet someone's place for nine days, which I know you're like, who is subletting your, listen, just pay your rent for nine days while you're enjoying your up. I'm like, I need that place for nine days. So, I'm doing that. And so, I was kind of just like scared last night. Where were you? Just like a friend's place. Friends of friends place that was up for grabs and I grabbed it and I paid for the week and a half. And after this, I go and I'm filming a special next week in Florida. - There you go. - Thanks. We're calling it a spectacle, not a special, because I kind of like across the board, people like don't love people's specials. And I think it's because we put so much emphasis on the fact that it's a special. - No, it's just a special. - Yeah, just an hour of standup. And it's, you know, like there's gonna be another special that comes up. - Yeah. - So, this is gonna be a little different. And it's gonna be kind of sign-filled-esque, you know, if you watch the show, it's standup cut to scenes, standup cut to scenes. So, it's a little bit more digestible, but I'm doing that actually. So, this is my last, so anyways, I didn't sleep last night. (laughs) And one thing that happens to me every now and then is a song pops into my head in the middle of the night and I'm singing it the entire night. And I got that, I got that. I don't know what, I wanna shake that gene, but last night it was, I'll stop the world and melt with you. - Oh, that's a good song. - Which is, - I'll stop the world and melt with you. (humming) - You know the one. (humming) - That's the one. - Yeah, I'm singing it the same. - I'll stop the world and melt with you, yeah. (laughs) - Well, I'm thinking about that song and then I'm like, I'm just gonna tell you my process. I'm just trying to get myself to go to sleep. A lot of people are like count sheep. I'm like, I need to get to the most absurd place I can with everything. I don't know what the song means. Like, I'll melt with you. Like, you make me melt. Like, I feel like if you stop the world, I don't want to melt. Like, I wanna like, we should do other stuff. Like, we should chop lift, you know? (laughs) - That's a very unromantic end of the, like everybody's, like come on, like yeah. Melting doesn't sound fun to me, that sounds, but it's like, you're, you're, you're like, mixing with someone else. - Yeah, but you don't have to stop the world to do it. Like, everyone has, my hold, to me it sounds like, some guy is like telling his girlfriend, baby I would stop the world to melt with you. And she's like, yeah, I just want you to meet my parents. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, it's a thing too much. You're doing too much. - Yeah, so then I'm just sitting there thinking about that song and I'm singing it in fast motion, which I'll sing it in 2X. I was just like going and just, like, take a little psychosis thing, that's it. - What do you do to get out of that? - Benadrill, drugs. - Yeah, I did. - You should get clonipin. - I have something, I have started to sweat in a way that is unnoticeable. - Really? I'm gonna throw my shirt away when we, - Really? - Yeah, no, I wasn't joking, what? I offered you the tank top. - Oh, I know, we talked about it. - The tank top, I was just talking about the tank top before we started, Jillian. - My 360 camera. - What? - I don't know. - Have you had that under the table? I'm wearing a skirt. - You're seeing one of these? - I've not seen one in person, actually. - This is, I had therapy this week and my therapist said, what's been making you happy? And I said, my 360 camera. - I hate when I see my forehead in that way. like that. (laughs) - This has been making me happier than more than anything. - What do you use this for? - I have no idea yet. I bought this so impulsively. I was like, I want a 360 camera. I'm not gonna put it anywhere. It's mostly been just moments like this. - Can it see you under itself? - Yeah. - Yeah, so for the listeners at home, I just put my 360 camera on the table. I'm gonna put it away now, out of respect. - Oh no, you don't have to do anything out of respect in front of me. - Show them how it works. I'll show 'em later, I'll show 'em later. But yeah, this is pretty cool. - Okay, I'm just gonna get that just so I have something. (laughs) Honestly, we are pretty close to an event. - Should we do like five more minutes? - Should we do the classic corner thing? - What's the classic corner thing? - Let's see, you know, the corner with thing. - Oh yeah. - The corner with thing that we all, that you always do. - Where should we start? Where do you wanna start? - You go first. - I'm corner with my, hi. - Oh, were you, okay. - I was already sweating, yeah. We were gonna start beatboxing at the end of the episode. - Oh, I can't, like I didn't even, like-- - No, do the corner with wrap. I would've prepared something. - I'll do it. - Okay. Okay, okay, I'll do what you just did. - I'm little kind of wooded, no, I'm gonna do this. - Okay, I'm glad we wrapped that. I wanna say before, before, before it gets like two-- - Sure, yeah. - Before we take an avenue that like is way past us in the coming weeks, I just like to get like thoughts out, like this, but while I'm feeling them, did you see obsession? - No, when would I have gone see that? Is it good? - That's true, like you're so busy. - I've got them. - I don't have much going on right now. - I'm on, oh it kinda says, I'm on a, I'm five weeks into 10 weeks, no breaks right now, of filming, and I'm feeling a little bit insane. - Well, random. - Yeah, 10 weeks, no days off. - I'm doing 10 weeks, all days off right now. - So no worries, I got the breaks covered. - Wait, is it good? - I'm doing all breaks, no gas right now. - How about you see movies, and you tell me if I should see them? - Go see back rooms for me this week. - Okay, I will. I'm not like a horror guy. - I wanna see obsession, I'm gonna write it down right now. - It was really good. That kind of fit into our thing we talked about earlier. We're like everyone in our space, respective space. - The internet, as they throw up onto the mic. - They're talking about it. They're just crushing. - Yeah, but I also think there's a lot to be said, and not to undermine Curry Baker's mind. He's been at this a long time, and has worked very hard for this, and the new medium of success and proof of concept is the internet, it's like so no brainer. It's really refreshing to see something where it's all people knew to the space. - Yeah, no, it's so fun. - We didn't have any bias to put on any of these people, I don't know how much they got paid for, but it was probably just like a low pressure thing for everybody, and they just blew it out of the water. Everyone was so good. - My brother saw in Berlin like a month ago. - Okay. - And was like, this movie's gonna be big. - Was it in German? - No. - Okay, why would it be in German, I guess? - You saw it in English, American English. - Right. You wanna do more acting? - Yeah. - Oh, we had fun. - Oh wait, oh wait, can I talk about it for two seconds? - Yeah, no, please, please, please, please. - I have this insane project that I had to put on pause 'cause I had to go and work on this late night thing that we're launching. When does this come out? - This comes out Thursday. - Oh, great. So in this Thursday, like two days? - I'm good. - I think so. - Today is Tuesday, January, January 2nd. - Happy new year. - 2015, no. So I have a late night show that's launching next week. I've been working on this for a year and a half and it's gonna be really good. We hope. Was he invited to the premiere? - Great. - What a popular interview was. - I don't know if it was something else. - I don't know. - But I have this other little secret side project that I wanna put more energy into the second it finishes where we do these like half hour fully improvised comedy shorts and Connor did one of the test ones that we were doing 'cause we wanna like pitch it and get some money for it. And it was most, we got the edit and it's really good. - You've seen it? - It's been, it was like 40 minutes, it's like 12 minutes. It's really good. And you are insane in it. No, they've not seen it. - Oh my gosh. - It's a hard watch in a good way. It's a hard watch and like this is so unhinged just kind of way. - Oh, I'm scared. - Yeah. - And you and Yvette kiss in it. - Perfect. - And she has a boyfriend right now. - And she did then too? - No, I'm joking. - I'm just kidding. - That's awesome. - Yeah, great. - Yeah, we can, we can go into that. - And me and Anthony from Queer Eye Kiss in it too. - Yeah, you do. And here's my favorite part was at the tail end of that. Me and Yvette are trauma dumping and then you guys say one thing and we're like, what? - You. - Yeah, you guys was like, oh, you're crazy, so. - Oh, so I'm hoping it was a hard watch in a good way. - I'm so nervous about what that means. But, okay, wait, yeah. So we'll, we'll let you go here. - Hey, Connor, thank you so much Chris. - This is like a God day. - Thank you so much for coming on. - Thank you so much for such a pleasure. - I hope any of this was useful. - It's all usable, this is a fun space. Everyone's, everyone's loving it. And. - Great. - Thank you guys. - Thank you, beautiful day. - You too. Thanks for listening guys. Bye. [BLANK_AUDIO]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. Connor shares a personal revelation about his natural tan, confirming he got it from sun exposure in California and clarifies it was not artificial.
  2. He discusses crying during the film *Remarkably Bright Creatures*, especially at the scene where Sally Field’s character releases the octopus, which deeply moved him emotionally.
  3. He praises Lewis Pullman’s performance in the film, noting his striking, unfamiliar appearance and emotional depth.
  4. The conversation includes a nostalgic, humorous exchange about Quaker school traditions, such as "friend walk with me" and "friend you’ve been heard."
  5. Both Connor and Julian share personal stories of trauma involving feet—Connor from a jump-off rock incident and frostbite from being locked out in winter, which still affects him today.
  6. They discuss the frequency of self-reflection and the cultural anxiety around looking at one’s own image.
  7. A lighthearted exchange occurs about owning other people’s work, with Connor jokingly suggesting he’d take credit for others’ achievements.
  8. The episode ends with a reflection on personal growth, shared vulnerability, and the emotional impact of real-world experiences.

Summary:

Connor opens the episode with a personal confession: his tan is natural, not fake, and he’s been tanning in California, which stands in contrast to a pale, "sick" version of himself he previously presented. He reflects on his emotional reaction to the film *Remarkably Bright Creatures*, particularly the scene where Sally Field's character releases the octopus, which he says moved him to tears—highlighting the film’s emotional resonance. He praises Lewis Pullman’s performance, noting his striking appearance and powerful presence.

The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes, including the Quaker school tradition of "friend walk with me," and both Connor and Julian share traumatic experiences involving their feet—Connor from a fall in Hawaii and frostbite from being locked out in winter, which still affects him today. They also discuss how frequently they look at their own reflections and the discomfort it brings. A playful, vulnerable exchange follows about wanting to "own" others' successes, which leads to a broader discussion of envy, comparison, and personal growth.

The episode ends on a note of shared humanity, with both guests reflecting on how real-world experiences—like friendship, trauma, and self-image—have shaped their lives, emphasizing authenticity, emotional vulnerability, and the joy of collective growth.

FAQs

Connor got a natural tan from spending time in the sun, especially at the beach. This tan signifies his real, authentic self, as he clarifies that the previous fake tan was washed off and this is what he looks like when living in California.

Connor cried during 'Remarkably Bright Creatures' when Sally Field's character, a fragile woman, decided to release an octopus at the end of her shift, symbolizing her emotional release and letting go. This moment deeply resonated with him, especially because of its heartfelt and poignant nature.

At Quaker schools, students were required to sit in silence and could be 'friend walked with' by an elder if they were being inappropriate or had been speaking too long. This tradition emphasized quiet reflection and community connection.

Connor and Julian attended the same Quaker school, where they didn’t interact much due to different timelines—Brooke was in high school while Julian was in middle school, and they only became aware of each other later in life.

Connor’s body goal is to look toned and lean. He works out occasionally but doesn’t follow a strict routine, and he emphasizes improving his physical appearance without focusing on strength or fitness.

Connor suffered a foot injury when he jumped off a rock in Hawaii, resulting in a severe laceration. He also experienced frostbite in high school when he was locked out of his house with no shoes or socks, which led to long-term nerve damage and sensitivity in his feet.

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