Friday Feedback! Revisiting Succession Comps, Ryen's Bulking & Hyperawarenes

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Today, Friday feedback, your feedback on the show Kyle sturdy to hang out off the air. We'll get to that. So we're in his test. Danny Cannell Wendy's fries. We'll go back this summer. Whatever you're watching baseball golf, soccer racing, Trafficking's has you covered for every single moment of it. The Trafficking Sports app is now available in all 50 states bringing the games straight to your fingertips wherever you are from Florida to Texas to California. You're in on the excitement at the speed of sports. Follow every buzzer beater. Every walkoff, every photo finish, sweat the moments that matter real time with a seamless experience built for the biggest season of the year. No matter where you're watching, you're always connected and in the game with one app. New Trafficking's customers sign up for the code Ryan spend five bucks to get 150 in rewards within 14 days includes all markets. That's code Ryan RYEN in partnership with Trafficking's. The crown is yours. 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It's content and it might be bad, but I'd listen, maybe not the second time, but definitely the first. Well, that's some glowing, right? It might listen to one all the way through. Ryan doesn't seem insecure to where he'd be upset while he's going between fjords and hakari from a fishing village in Iceland. There's a long time listener. It sucks when I'm eating my lunch, watching the third hour of the today show instead of listening to the pod. I'm all for it. If you guys want to do something crank out of that episode or two. I don't know what we talk about, Kyle. I don't know. What's your open right now? Go. Well, it's not baseball. Sorry, Jeff Fasten. What do I want to get off my chest? I don't know, I feel like I've said most of the things I wanted to say, but they're all soccer related. We had a big cat on this, they'll already be out by that happen on the soccer show and I threw him my theory about how like everyone thinks soccer guy sucks, but actually like insecure football guys, the one that sucks the most. So I kind of liked it. I did. I pitched that to him. He didn't love that, though. He thought I was misunderstanding. He's like, well, football is a big deal. I'm like, no, I know that, but like no one's scared of it, isn't. And so I think we were on the same page, so it did not. Maybe it wasn't good. It didn't hit. So it was a terrible open. Who knows, but that would have been my idea, but I've gotten most of my ideas off on that pod. So sorry, Kyle. Yeah, we could rank stuff for 20 minutes. Maybe I don't know. Like if it's a one off, we could do that properly. I love that. We could do show and tell. Actually, I've been asking to do show and tell for God knows how long I'm going to do. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to a great place for show and tell. I mean, you would be shot. You go live. Some of the lives of our, yeah, we go live. Yeah. The life of stuff is we did it. We did a blind rank off air. It actually was hilarious. This is a while ago. We were just brainstorming shit, but but I don't think that works in audio format, really. You know, maybe make a good clip. So I don't know. Yeah, wait, what was the point of my friends on the on the show? I don't know. We could do like a show I tell with people. That'd be funny. Um, well, wait, the blind. Bring in our mod of ideas. What was the, what was the funny thing about the blind rank thing? Because you got cigarette. You were like, blind, right? It was things you couldn't live without. And so it's the things you couldn't live without. And then like I did everything and then cigarettes was it actually would have been a great bit. Yeah. Yeah, it was funny. Um, yeah, maybe we do a deep dive into the, uh, the, uh, the frog room crew, you know, like who are they? Although the kids, you guys are a team anonymous. Yeah. Yeah. And kids, you guys are like begging, like, why don't you ever talk about me? I'm like, I really don't know what to say, man. I don't think I just want to shoehorn you into stuff like that. So, you know, maybe a little slower somewhere. I don't know. I could just go more places. We could do some maybe a joint travelogue. I don't know. We got some view. Where should we go? Yeah, we have to be like new England related. I don't know. VFW halfway between both of us. Yeah. I haven't hated one idea yet. All right. Also, we didn't really, that, that it's Spotify, you know, that wasn't really like, just like get on the mic anymore. I think when the company was younger, like the ringer was younger, they were trying things out. And then once, you know, shows got a little bigger and more established, there wasn't as much like, yeah, just go take a couple cuts, you know. So I just, my brain doesn't even go there anymore. Yeah. I would not mind at all. I would think it'd be great. I think it'd be hilarious. But I also don't blame you guys for being like, I actually don't feel like working an extra day that I don't have to. So it's up to you. If you guys want to do it, you have my full blessing. It wouldn't be terribly hard to just hop on and do it over under properly though. Yeah, but I kind of want you guys to have like a debate on something for eight minutes, just two guys just exploring the pieces. But I don't know like what Kyle, like, what, what fires you up? Like, I guess, I guess sports sports, but sports wise, you know, like, what would we argue about? Yeah. I don't know. I don't even know what I would like, if I was like to be like, hey, actually, here's my Drake Maze, not a top five quarterback. I don't want to make that argument. Generation. I mean, what do we want to do here? I'm not touching that with a tempo pole. Okay. Yeah. What if, I mean, the thing that would be kind of funny, but it feels a little narcissistic, maybe pitch it to you would be you guys talking about me for eight minutes, trying to guess. You would say that. You wouldn't say that though, right? No, but I mean, like, what does he like? What does he not like? And then trying to get it right? Like the roommate game. Oh, yeah. Well, you kind of have to be here for that to answer the questions, but yeah, we could always play it back. Best moments, worst moments with Ryan. That'd be cool. Yeah. I was it out. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's not a lot of low, there's not a lot of lows though. I would, I would guess. I went every day where you didn't like working with me or you were like, not that I didn't like working with you, but that whole, whatever that debacle and the old miss one where I was caught smoking a cigarette outside with the guy who was like working there after they told me that you had 20 minutes worth of material with your guests. And then five minutes later, it's like, all right, we're doing life advice. I don't remember what was good. Was that just you and Van? You had 10 minutes and then you just decided to pull the trigger on life advice after like they just told me I had like almost 30 minutes, seven minutes passed. And then I have to like run past everyone to the front of the stage. And then afterwards I was already so worried about it. And then she was like, yeah, Ryan wasn't super thrilled about that. I'm like, yeah, me neither. I mean, I guess, I guess I should have just hung out backstage the whole time, but I was just informed. We had a plethora of time. But that was, that was probably a low and that wasn't even really a you low. That show wasn't the best live show I've ever done. So it was it was the worst. No offensive. Yeah, everyone for everyone. Yes, the worst. And it's not anyone's fault. It's not all Mrs. Fall. It's certainly not anyone on the production side. Elizabeth is an absolute champ at everything. So I would hate. It just didn't work. It didn't work. The LSU travelers were going to get their late that night. Right. Right. So it was a night game. So we missed the LSU crowd. It was during the day. I desperately wanted to do a show from Ole Miss. And then it didn't work. And then fans like dog ate a tennis ball. So like van was going to be my buddy for the night. And then he couldn't even go to the game. He'd like go back to LA. Yeah. So that part of it sucked. And it was like, you know, you need the night. You need the night life to have those shows really work. You could be doing something special with the liver during the day. And it was almost like an assembly the way it was set up because no venue wanted to give us no one wanted to give us their venue for the night. Like are you kidding me? Like one of the seven or eight home games we get. We're going to give you our fucking place on a Saturday night. Like, or he nuts. So it really wasn't even that though. It was a Friday too. I think it was the day before the game wasn't it? It was a Thursday. I believe right was a Thursday day. I believe only because Only because we like the process of getting that show out those show would like if we released it Friday Afternoon it would suck and you can't release something on a Saturday because it's gonna be dated by then so like we had to tape it early enough Where but but the game was obviously on a Saturday? It's just I don't I just don't think doing shows at games like that probably works We're too far away from the game time. I read that But right and it was then I just was in Ole Miss for the rest of the time and by the way the Ole Miss people were incredible to me We did go to that great bar I had a slushie. I remember that was fun Purple time I went out I went out by myself after the game and It wasn't even close to like having I ended up hanging out with that Guy who everybody knows like a little bit because he knew all the LSU people that I knew and they were just doing the foam cup deal. You're talking about your good friend Todd Graves No, it wasn't My best friend Todd Graves That's not everybody's but I know I mean he's He's definitely I'm not being as plus one to the white party But yeah, I mean I look I'd built up Ole Miss the whole thing and the fact that I didn't have any dudes And then it was over and then I was living in a strip mall and then I had to stay there like I stopped doing that Thing where I would go to an SEC game and then to make sure the Monday part was good and I'd watch everything on Sunday I would watch everything on Sunday and I'd be in a room and then I would be leaving like the SEC Town on a Monday night to get out of there and I don't think I do that anymore All right, yeah, so there you go Speaking of and our motto of ideas. This is a response. This is from a while back to the succession comps On the last Friday feedback is Jerry was spot on I Think Jerry. I think Jerry's awesome. So he's awesome. Yeah, he kind of has it and kind of. Thanks It's really sneaky hot who knows who these wife is explaining. He's kind of hot You remember like Jerry from succession. Yeah, just like that like you've ever seen Steve look like I mean different guy Kyle is cousin Greg no no But Ryan is one-her-percent Kendall Ryan even tried to do a self-comp as Logan, which is an all-time Kendall move It's a great I don't think I'm like any of them and by the way like Logan doesn't love his children Like if there's one thing on all the rewatches I cannot stop watching it I just throw on episodes all the time. It's actually getting weird, but What you realize is the Logan does not love the way a parent is ever supposed to love and then it's all Depülational and stuff so I I don't even think I'm a Logan really so let's make the case for Kendall Let me preface this by saying the characters on succession are objectively terrible people So this isn't a one-to-one personality comp was Tom a terrible person I don't think so I think he was a greedy person, but I don't think that's reg some of the worst qualities, you know an operator Yeah, yeah On on some rewatches socks is Rome Roman sucks. Oh, yeah, I'm he's awful like when he brings Tabitha to fucking Tom's wedding I mean, it's great television. Yeah, but I was sucks and then The the baseball game in the Hamptons where he likes screw with that kid's head and like tore up a million dollar check it for I mean I was I was like the episode one I think that was tough Yeah, I mean he's funny at times, but I don't think everyone's like hey, that's an awesome dude no all right, so So this isn't a one-to-one personality comp. I've been listening since day one Ryan is generous loyal and genuinely compassionate person towards the people he cares about This is strictly about the parallels. Well, it's just well written Ryan's the main character on the plot of the same way succession is mostly about Kendall's journey Kendall lives in the shadow was far the as fathers larger than life president Ryan constantly referencing and idolizing his dad's basketball prowess solve to the other grit and height. Yeah, there's some parallels there I think you could say the Logan is Kendall's hero, so I think that works both of them can have an occasional blind spots with self-awareness Their social cues the core's light situation still plays. Yep That's fair Career driven to a fall often sacrificing friends and family pursuit of something greater checks out Their affinity for rap sneaker streetwear fashion and basketball naming your son Iverson as a racilla move That's definitely not true. Yeah, yeah, as much as I want that to be jet. It's not true Yeah, that part is not true. By the way him naming his kid the writing room to go what's Kendall's kids name? And they're like it's Iverson is so fucking perfect Just so jealous of moments like that where you go like hey, what would be the best worst name for his kid to like give us another layer of Kendall He's gonna name his kid Iverson while Kendall's humor is more unintentional Both have dry humor they can go under the radar like Ryan when he was on with Bill And finally you're both the eldest boys. I am the eldest boy My sisters like to make fun of me with that But if I were ever Kendall like if anybody looked at me as Kendall and my friend group were That would bump me out That would definitely be like a Kendall's coming Yeah, I think I think there are some good points there. There's some heart the harshness of Of Logan. I think some people I think can see you as harsh. I don't think you are harsh But I think some people can be intimidated by you. So I think you have that Is there a little shiv in there too where like you can be like she's kind of cold? Doesn't really, you know Especially I mean be able to just think of the Tom relationships specifically like partner. Yeah She's got some she's good at some things But she asked she also has a blind spot sub you know personally to man an open relationship marriage. Yeah, after you get married Big Tom knew ahead of time, but Tom is ready to move memory. He starts talking about like well. I can't you know There's some I don't know that there's many Tom parallels because I just don't know that I could be that calculated in that phony Although I love the idea of having a portrait. He's like to a Saadi Wasn't Tom's the classic guy who he's just trying to survive man. Like he's just trying to like he's always like kind of an obstacle on it Yeah, he's gonna do whatever he can to be overwhelmed about the prenup right Yeah Ryan's cowherd voice. I'm sorry. I'm just keeping it moving. Did you have something else? No, that's it. Let's do the cowherd Quick stats are no stats quick one. No stats is getting right to it I am never happier listening to podcasts them and Ryan does this cowherd voice any story that includes cowherd Already demands my attention, but Ryan's impression really is the cherry on the Sunday Included is often as All right Well, I loved doing the cowherd voice. We used to do it all the time the hallway did it before we were friends Don't know that he loved it if I've learned anything don't do impersonations of people in front of them that you're not friends with Because they don't like it But if you are friends, then you can do it. So you could say Summerlings a lot like Interest only seven year aren't Oh worry about it later Love cowherd that we turned down your game before you did that On the on the mic that it's basically just the excited high-pitched And then and then like a half-baked idea that's basically what they come with the cowherd brush and it's good It's a good equation right there. That's pretty good Well, that's a lot like a salad bar Low on carrots Like oh, I didn't know we had feta. Now we got a feta option Careful you don't want to flood the market and now There's always like a salad bar one in there for me But he did a rust belt one which to this day Van Pell and I talk about this rust belt segment that he did and that's the beauty of cowherd is that you don't understand like you kind of like What the fuck is he saying and he ties it up and you're like I don't even know that I believe it, but man those eight minutes. That was a ride man was mad me like that's If you're ever confused on why anyone in this business that makes decisions why they've been obsessed with cowherd for two decades Like that is it and it was all relatable and like I was trying to do my shit and nobody There not because I was like brilliant, but I was like super sports Guy and decision-makers were kind of like All right cool, man, you get it dude. Yeah, watch the games again this weekend, buddy. Awesome Oh, he took notes. Yeah cool Coward just good to think about how retirees are ruining wide receiver dips in the AFC North What was his rust belt thing? I don't remember that He did this whole thing about how the big 10 was toast because of the rust belt migration numbers big 10 column did that Wow, no, it was SEC column when he was at ESP right right right right now. He's now he's big 10 column So time to be big 10 column honestly Yeah, he knows his partners. Oh, he doesn't want another reason why people in charge love him Yeah, he got but he got really into soccer as soon as he would fox. I love it. I'll be honest with you, but it did happen Yeah, cuz prior to the soccer boom when skipper picked up the soccer deal I remember him doing a segment about soccer being like basically homeless people play it So I do not culture it up. I mean, he was it was ruthless It was like 2014 content 2012 content where you could you could say like for the great awakening or whatever yeah, yeah, right Look, you could say some shit you shouldn't have said you could also say some stuff where it's like, yeah, I don't know that that was that big of a deal that he said that, but then it got processed all different 1617. I think it's when the shift happened. Kyle is loving the Lucy pouches. He's just on it. He's like, I can't believe this is one of the perks at being at barstool sports. They come in handy when they need to come in handy. Lucy is the obvious choice for the true nicotine pouch connoisseur. That's why they're the official nicotine pouch partner of barstool sports. Every other pouch is the same. Lucy breakers are the only ones doing it differently to give you the longest lasting flavor in pouches. Lucy pouches go up to 12 milligrams strength and have a unique shape that feels great. Lucy is in stores nationwide. 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He insists you're a base one, but he can hardly tell the difference between a baritone and a second tenor with the resonance of your profundo register. However, I would be shocked if you were not consistently hitting the D2 notes as a true base. Yeah, I was I was based to in high school. I don't know what happened. It was it was early. Yes, science stuff at night school. Yeah, I was in the choir. Like I wasn't like the good one. Like choir. I know where it sounds. Choir sounds like, uh, well, it's saying not an elective. Okay. All right. Well, I was in it. I was in the one you took. Well, it was so they took it so seriously in my high school that you could make you did you could just be in chorus. Right. Anybody? Like instead of an instrument. Or we had we had the we had a piano player, you know, somebody who played piano. No, I'm saying in our eyes, you either play an instrument or I think you were in like a music class like chorus. You had to do one or two. I think it was one or the other two years. And I was in high school. Yep. Well, I had to carry that fucking clarinet around fresh and it's important. Huh? Just put fucking clarinet on kids. So such a bummer. That's a wild thing, though, if you think about it, like everyone, like it's good for the arts, right? But every single kid at some point has to pretend he's going to be in the music game long term and you're with the catalog. So many trumpets, you know, you don't think that's a good thing. I do think it's a good thing, but I also think it's kind of wild from like a marketing. I don't know if that's still the same now, but I remember being there like by brought back my my thing and I like I think I wanted to play trumpet, you know, and I showed the catalog to my dad. And he's like, you're going to sing. He did. You already got all the equipment. Yeah, you don't need, you don't need to professionally clean your vocal cords. So we're ready to go. I don't know that you took the recorder series enough. You know what you vote. Go ahead. All right, fine. So what was so funny is like, I think I had the middle school like or the middle school elementary, whatever they made me start doing trumpet. I had the like the schools version of that. And then I had to switch over to my aunts old one. And I didn't want to do it at all. And we had to pay to get it professionally cleaned. And then they were like holding this thing over my head that like in your aunt, you know, gave you this trumpet or gave you this clap. And I was like, yeah, I love it. This is the worst part of my day. And like you want like what? I'm thinking her every month for this. I don't understand. But like they were they had a totally different view of it that I did. Yeah, I'm just saying that they don't like guitars. Not one of those things. Like why can't I learn to play guitar high school? Yeah. Like why is it? It sounds like more of a club. It's all the classical instruments, you know, big wins. Could I play drums? I could play drums in high school. Big win. Now isn't the home big horn, dude. That's what they call me. I'm going to tell you I just love throwing big and front anything now. It's just so great. Isn't it? It's a great ROI. Yeah, more often than that. Yeah. It's like it's going to be over soon. But like ever since like the big format awareness, just throwing big and front stuff, it works. It plays. It's been playing now for a little while. Yeah. Mix it into your routine. Yeah. Yeah. Based to clearly a base two, I probably could go down and do a scale right now if I wanted to, but I don't know, man, that's going to live forever. So I might not do it. I'm actually not going to do it. But yeah, I'm I've I had an absurd absurd like low deep singing voice. I could hit all those notes down there. Yeah. To a murder. Oh, man, man. Yeah. Yeah. People thought I was two and a fake voice when I first was on the air. They're like, no way, no fucking way. Like this guy is a fake voice. Well, if you came out with some sort of like music collab situation, then you'd be more like Kendall, you know, so maybe that's down that path. Well done. Well done. All right, the only child hatred needs to stop. I think that's directed at me. Wonder who that's coming from. Long time listener here, I'm writing a new express and frustration that I've had for the past several months over the group's disdain for someone who's an only child. I guess all of us are. Whenever only child. Yeah. Oh, I've brought it up. I've brought it up. Yeah. There have been life advice emails. So I'd be like, are you an only child? And then some guys usually will like follow up me like, yes, I am. Or like the one guy. Remember the one guy was like mad about his roommate setup. And I was like, you sound like you have like two older sisters or whatever. He's like, I can't, but he goes, I have two older sisters and there's like a huge gap. Yeah, I could tell. I mean, look, doesn't mean I'm going to get to write all the time, but like sometimes I can tell, but be some personalities. Like you had two older sisters that like, baby, the shit out of you. I think you're a little soft. And then it's like, oh, that's up. All right. So back to the email. Whenever an only child is brought up during life advice, there's a collective agreement that someone with no siblings tends to be a loser. I don't think lose. I think just doing fine characteristics as an only child of myself. Like, pre-dispose, like you're predisposed to things. It doesn't mean you're going to get, you know, that disease that your grandfather had, but I think you're predisposed to certain things. Also, it's sometimes a bit. Sometimes too. As an only child myself, I heavily disagree with your sentiments. I would like to share some perspective that will hopefully change your mind, especially with siloes. Although Ryan does have siblings, his current lifestyle is extremely similar to that of an only child growing up with no siblings. You learn to appreciate being alone. There isn't someone around your age you can constantly turn to or interact with as a child. As I've gotten older, I realized that being an only child has made me very comfortable being by myself. Sometimes I actually prefer it. I feel that this perfectly represents Ryan's saying of I'd rather be alone than annoyed. Might be a slight shift on that philosophy, but Ryan, you may not think about it, but you're living the life of a mature own child. Us only children aren't weirdos. Deaths refer attention, like you may think. We're independent and can handle situations such as solo dinners, travel movies. Just some perspective I wanted to share. I tend to agree with the group suggestions, but your opinions on being an only child are disappointing. I hope Ryan can reflect upon this and accept he is one of us, also RIP to Oregon and would love to see a Zach Kyle swap for an episode. I don't think the criticism usually comes from like being weird. I think sometimes it's like you're not playing well with others. I think that's more where that's really what it is. You're not interacting well with others where it's like you're having a hard time when this thing is not 100% going your way. This is just specific to some emails we get and then Ryan, Ryan, I think he, Ryan knows he riles up the only children out there and so he goes a little bit harder once we get on that topic, but we're just saying sometimes you're predisposed to certain actions by not having to share as a kid. I've had some serious relationships with only children and there's just things that you'll notice that would be different. Okay, put the same way, like as I mentioned, the younger brother scenario with two older sisters that just reign them into the ground, like all of us can have great things about us based on where we are in the sibling chart. Like I think because I'm the oldest and there's such a massive gap between the youngest to the oldest that I tend to care. You could even say worry about them a little bit more because I feel like I'm somehow their protector, even if it's sort of absurd because we don't live together anymore. But like if something happens to one of my siblings, it devastates me and I don't know if if I were the youngest, I'm not saying that the youngest doesn't have that same compassion, but I might be more predisposed to that. How much ram is that taken up for them? Right. Yeah. The middle child thing is the one that's always sort of fighting to be noticed. All of these different things, I would just say whether a dating relationship, this kind of raises his hand. Where are you, Sury? Are you the oldest? I'm the oldest. That's what I was going to say. You and I don't think we have different oldest child qualities. Because I'm one of three. I have two younger sisters. My youngest is classic youngest. It's funny. She's outgoing. Whatever. My middle is classic middle and I I think I have some oldest Qualities like I do like to kind of like do things on my own like not be bothered. I can be babies I'm probably my mom's favorite My sister probably laugh at that and say you're definitely your mom's favorite But I know like you and I I don't think you and I we are different like we are Olders oldest different whereas I think like only child only really means like you kind of only know Like the world kind of is always revolved around you. Right. Yeah, whereas I think that that there's and there's varying degrees of that Like our friend Michelle smallman only child. There's some things that I feel like I oh, yeah There's an only child come out of you and then but she's also like very self-aware I'd forgotten and she's she doesn't Not be saying that she's an only child. Yeah, so yeah. Yeah, I think there's you know, it's a skin You can beat it. You can beat it. Yeah, you could overcome Yeah, I would say the downside of it that I have noticed time and time again Is that there is a bit of like there's there's It feels like there's less empathy, okay, and there are times that I've noticed where it's like hey, you not realize like And that that person maybe never had to realize it because they just and it's not necessarily their fault It doesn't mean that only children or excuse me only children are worse than the oldest or the youngest all that kind of stuff is that we all have some things that we may be are more likely to kind of like develop and I've I Don't want to call it selfish because that's not entirely fair But there there have been sometimes at least in my experiences where there's some selfish tendencies where I don't even think the person is a Selfish person. It's just kind of a default setting of like I'm usually gonna get my way because that's what's happened Yeah for my entire life There's a different correlation and causation right we're talking correlation here. Yeah What you just worry for it. I do. Is that like a? No, it's not why you know I was just impressed by you try you dropping out that that knowledge I didn't know that is don't say that phrase the V of type Okay, we're still as a hypocrite about bulking aging and NBA big men Love hearing all the times a year how Ryan is injured himself during working out trying to maintain his bulk well more of it's now Fighting, but not like really Sparring sparring against people that could kill me, okay But they're paid by me as coaches so they don't really get to kill me We in the booze. Yeah, although I've said hey, you know, you can start like punishing me a little bit more here, buddy Like you can't let me get away with this shit Like when I get cracked in the nose and I like stop for a second and then they stop and I'm like you can't stop Like I'm mad at myself, and that's why I just stop you don't hate you again. Yeah, you got to break me of this habit because there is no stopping You don't get just to go hate time out All right, that's in the side there. What are if guys ever try that like a real street fight like what if guys ever try it? Yeah, never shit. I've never seen like a timeout. I've seen like other guys like all right. We're gonna get you guys off each other But like you want to like just a timeout timeout young kids go like you're gonna kick Yeah, maybe kids. All right, and again, this is just working out by the way This is not like me rolling this and that as Jim and Torrance being like a new guys in town. All right, so It's hurt all the time then he has the audacity to get on an bead and Anthony Davis for keeping their bulk When the model big man Tim Duncan lost weight is older years Maybe try to follow Tim Duncan's lead and what you preach and slim down as you approach 50 to ease the stress in your joints Otherwise, don't complain about and be and Anthony Davis don't complain about the imbees in 80s of the world when you would also rather try to have bulk cheers Yeah, this was bait. This was bait Yeah, this was bait Yeah, I mean do we even need to address how fucking dumb that email is Yeah, I mean, do we want to just point out like the obvious fact that you don't get played to play it to fight people or to do Moitai and these guys do and your job is to be interesting about talking about them I'm not taking a 30% of your cap coming back out of shape every single year never being able to finish the season and do Mean millions of fans favorite teams chances I think there's a slight difference. I do think we've gotten obsessed as a and I'm part of this problem We've got obsessed with like pointing out hypocrisy and all parts of life We're like now we don't even know what it even means or where it applies properly And this is a perfect example of like that doesn't make any sense like I even asked you out joke I mean, I forget what we were talking about remember when I was like what's your goal? Because you're talking about some sort of lifting thing like what do you shut because I so I thought about it I'm like, why are you still like lifting to get big like what what is the goal? Like what are you always trying to get bigger and trying to maintain because I don't know So I think it's fair to be like what the hell is Ryan doing? But then to be like actually then you can't critique Anthony Davis or Joel and be it is just like all right Now you're just a troll so sorry dude I didn't feel as a great email, but I lectured in it Why aren't you a guest on Dan Patrick Moore? This show and Dan Patrick's show are really all I have and consistent rotation these days I can't stand most of the sports talk shows anymore to me You are the two most authentic people talking sports. This is very nice Even though sometimes both of you all have some bozos on his guests, but I get it Well, name names. I'm almost I'm almost 40 so Dan Patrick is the legend of me as I grew up loving sports center I locked in a DP show around 2017 full-time. I'll be honest. I never really listened or watched you with SVP I started listening to the show around 21 and enjoyed your interviews on PMT anyway I guess I see a lot of perils between you and Dan Patrick I like how y'all ventured off for me. It's paying to build something special without them And y'all do it without the hot take theatrics. It'd be cool to hear a story or two about y'all's relationship And if I you know if you get him out I had him on the pod and I'll just tell you it was kind of that episode and I also know that he hates doing everybody else's part especially with the guys cranking out five days a week all time like even me doing Three sometimes four things a week. I don't really feel like doing a lot of other stuff So I think I've told myself I was never going to ask him again to do it I love going out of them But I'm also like the times that I've gone on with him It was kind of like hey, can you do this at 7 a.m. And then one time I was like at the finals and even I was like I don't know if I can even fit this in because it's him and I'll tell Fritz I'm like hey, you know I'll do whatever I can for Dan like for the rest of my life Because but I didn't have a we were not tied at ESPN. He was kind of on the way out as I was coming in I thought like he and kill one of my two favorite anchors ever um We don't we're not like buddies, but I do always think of sending them a text every now and then just not like Something that be very classic me and like not make any sense like I almost enter a picture of me taking shots Like around July 4th was like Thinking about you on 250, which is insane because I wouldn't be thinking about Dan Patrick But I It's sometimes I'm tempted to do that kind of stuff because I have a relationship with other people But look, I love Dan. I love Dana death. It's just likely a scheduling thing But I I know when I go on with him like I want to do a great job I want him to be psyched that I came on as a guest because uh, I just look he wasn't just a great sports center anchor His radio show when I was driving around before I even worked at ESPN and then like that jump from Being in my truck listening to him every single day and then four years later trying out there Like you want to talk about the timeline of your your life and that I don't know that I've ever had anything close to that quick of a jump from that moment to then four years later And then you start going like oh, that's gonna be normal The host and the fucking Grammys couple years Which I would be terrible at wait did you overlap at in radio with him then When I was doing filling stuff. Yeah Yeah, I was done I think what oh seven was he done? Yeah, so if I look it up man, that might be right on the number um Because before I got there. I just know that I was there in 11 Yeah, cuz when he left radio Um It was like big deal man. I mean obviously there's a huge deal But I remember everybody kind of like milling around the office and the radio cubicles You're like, what happened? And there was some story about how like somebody flew internationally Go meet with him and he was like nope And then he just knew and by the way what he did on his own versus me just joining a podcast company They cannot be compared like he was doing real pioneer shit. I just was part of the wave Of what it already happened So um, but yeah, I think he had a little never say so shit like that. So you're definitely not that is But oh look, it's true. It's true. I don't When when we talk about like what guys have done and put a flag and stuff or like Because somebody was trying to compare me to McAfee and I was like I don't I don't look at myself Like McAfee came from a position where he already was known first of all And so there was there was an easier transition for him Um, because who he was But that also allowed him to like call his shots in a way that very few people could ever call their shots And it's worked out fabulously for him and you know, I always admire shit like that So I don't think every single guy that like leaves Yeah, you could argue he in an odd way like sort of reverse engineered it because he like then teams up with The big guy, which is the best thing you can ever do like when ESPN wants you when they don't have you You are gonna do so much better than when they've already had you Absolutely All right What happens when you lock 18 co-workers in an office for one week to compete for a quarter million dollars of cash. This is surviving bar stool seat. season five presented by Rumble Premium, where each episode releases three hours early. So get it out free before anybody else only when you join Rumble Premium. New episodes of Surviving Barstool will be released every Sunday and Wednesday, leading up to the Labor Day finale on September 7th. You can watch Surviving Barstool at 5 p.m. on Rumble Premium and everywhere else at 8 p.m. Eastern. Where is, all right, this is the one we get a lot of. Where is Kyle and Cerruri's relationship outside of the show? Hmm, that tells you all you need to know. Uh, I would say there is probably room for more. It was that fair to say, Kyle. Totally. Absolutely. And I thought about this summer, I've been like, hey, like you're close, like, before you used to be in LA. So I was like, hey, I'm not like, I hang out with Kyle when I go out there and now I'm talking about this too. I was like, should I know what you're going to say? I was like, should I have met Kyle and Dan Berry? Should we had a day together? Like, I do. I have thought about these things. I will say it's not an excuse, but I will say it is a little bit difficult to kids. Uh, there's some schedules going on, we got swim lessons in the afternoons and different things going on. But, uh, yeah, like, I don't know. I think Kyle and I have always been cool. Like, it's, are we like, do I know all the, is Kyle going to hit me up about like, Cerruri's life stuff? Probably not. Like a hard person like, I don't, I, I am close with like five people and I just, I just kind of have a limit and not that like short break into that or something. But like, and they're, and they're like long time dudes and I'm not even including Ryan in that. I guess Ryan would, would kind of be in that category too. You maybe be the sixth guy. But, but my sort of, I'm sort of at, I'm sort of like, add a capacity with like, really close friends. And then I'm, and I'm not like a social butterfly in any situation to be like, hey, what's going on? Let's go to the yard, go to the game. Let me meet you halfway. I'm just like bad at that stuff. So I guess like myself report card could be, I, it could be better. But like, there are, there are absolutely times when I'm like, man, like I would have, like when I was younger and like, whatever, like Kyle and I chopped it up, it would have been a lot of fun. But it just, I feel like I don't know that I'm at that point in my life. Yeah. I mean, he was, he started as a, we were always remote co-workers, never had, have not been that, right? Uh, he started like coming in as my boss and like, we did, he did like a tiptoe around me. I was actually really happy to have like, I mean, Ryan was talking about him forever and like, I was happy to have like a boss sort of like to put one between me and one of the higher ups that I liked. So I kind of, he was always like, dude, I'm not trying to step on any toes and I tried to break through that pretty quick. I was like, no, dude, absolutely not. This is great. And honestly, I think we worked really well together at our last stop. And then I think we talked like almost every day during the transition here, during that summer and stuff, so yeah, and then every time we're in like, a city for either with that core week stuff or we'd go on a, on a travel thing, it's like, you know, I don't want to say fast friends. But it's like, I guess you could say like it's like we picked up, right? We're left off. And he's always, he's always asking me because I think he knows I got the, I got the late night, uh, burn of the late night oil in me everywhere we go. And he's usually getting off of flight. He's always like, all right, we'll find what day do you want to do it? I try to get this one. Is it going to be the next one? Give me a choice as soon as we get there. So like he's, uh, he's a, he's a good friend to me. And I think now that we're, you know, we're an hour or two away from something that we could both go to, uh, I think it'll happen more. But again, father to totally get it. I think it's fair. Okay. Next email, Kyle, where does upstate start? Kyle, where do you believe upstate New York start? Some from Southern Westchester and resented whenever someone would call that upstate. I personally used Pekipsy, New York as the border. Thank you for your attention to this important matter. And, um, I also bought the recillo sobbing on block as a wedding gift. Still available, by the way, um, saw, we're just going to the case over here at the house. All right. So yeah, Kyle, you take this one. I have the idea. I saw it on this over the years. I used to, I used to resent it as well. Um, and then I went to college with, I mean, you can't tell in New York city person anything. Listen, if I'm like, if I'm in a, in a bar in this, in this midhuts and valley area, I'm talking to somebody from the, yeah, maybe while I'll get a little bit more intricate or nuanced about where the line should be, but if I'm talking to somebody from New York city, I'm just like, yeah, man, whatever. You're right. Because I mean, now there's like, there's gift shops around the vast or college area here. And in the window, they've got the, all these t-shirts and shirts that say upstate and chill. And I'm like, all right, this isn't my own backyard. They have, they've resigned to this upstate. I can, I'll say like the midhuts and valley. I try to, you know, I went to school upstate in New York. That was my whole thing. It's like, how can I drive five plus hours? And that's still upstate New York from where I left. So, you know, you can't tell a New York city guy anything. I'd say probably above Westchester, it's upstate to anyone in New York city. It's all the fucking sticks to them anyway. You know, so sure, I live in upstate New York. I live in the Midhuts and Valley. I live in the Crown Jewel. And I guess I also live in upstate. Well, so if you Google upstate New York, they'll give you a map and pick you up. And Kipsy is not in that little red zone. It's just south of it. Starts as like what I would stop. Sure. Yeah. Below Albany. Oh, that's dope. I don't know. And then Albany's still four or five hours from the top of New York state. So, whatever. And he gives that weird Western New York part, I don't even know. So yeah, I guess I'm upstate. Did we already address what Kyle is voicing the athletic intro and Netflix is opposed to the way it plays out on audio? I don't know if we heard. Maybe like. I try to bring that up the other day. I thought we, I thought we did. Basically, we just, yeah, we don't have the rights to it. I don't know if we should say this. Ben said loud, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Fortunately. Ben's a Bill guy. Yeah. That's a great guy. Two billion dollars. And we said no. And yeah, that was just kind of like a legal workaround. So. Well, I did it. And I was like, if it sucks, like, let's not do it. And I didn't know because it's my own voice. It's really was like, that's way better than I thought you were going to do. So. It was good. So long story short, it was good enough, I guess. Yeah. Uh, I love this one. Because I think there's like a list of stories where I was almost tempted to go over and with sorority and be like, okay, like, I don't, probably I don't need to tell the story about how Danny Angiotomi capspaces pointless anymore. And there's a few of those, which obviously now means you guys are just going to hit up the emails. Be like, here's a story. You don't have to tell anymore. There was, um, there was a, there was a thing once with Mike and Mike where they did this study. And I think it's bullshit. I think they just did it to like motivate us and stuff. It was like, something absurd was, it was like 75% of Mike and Mike's audience is within the last six months, but then they kept saying, I was like, this would be like four billion people would be watching a show if we kept doing compounds like numbers on this. It doesn't, there's no way that makes any sense. And it was obviously just a monster monster of a show. But the point was is that if people are only with you for 15 minutes, if they're, if these shows are growing at this rate, and it's, and look, they showed it incredibly well. But it just was an impossible, like, set up, it was just the math on that. I'm like, there's, there's no way the show's been on for how many years, and you're trying to tell me that like three quarters of the audience is just finding out about them in the last six years. And then that just adds to whatever, like, no. And I remember like somebody said it in a meeting once. And then middle managers couldn't stop fucking repeating it. And it would go on for like years. Yeah. It's like, it's like the Maryland Manson rib thing. It's like someone just made it up. And then it just became a thing for a while. Yeah. That guy is a legend. Whoever got that to stick. That guy's a fucking legend. Yeah. I know. I think anywhere in the country and the guys would be like, yeah, I heard that too. You know why I did it? It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, it starts. You're right. Like, who even told it? Like, who, I don't even remember. Imagine like the origin story of who's the first person to tell you that too. Like, I don't even like, who told me that imagine if you tried that with different guys. And then like, Maryland was the one that got it to stick. Yeah. He's like, he did it with Neil and Clinton did that too. And it's like, no one believed him, but. Yeah. That's great. That's smart. I like that. So we sometimes, but the podcasting thing is different. You're not listening to me for 15 minutes, you know? And if the podcast things, even more intimate than me just being an option on the station that you're listening to because you like the lineup where you more importantly probably hate all the other lineups back when you were at ESPN. So this is an ESPN story that we have brought up a few times. The canal putting Wendy's on blast story gets told every year or two. I remember when it happened. It's a memorable story and laugh. I guess we were drafting what fast foods. We were trying to figure out a new way to, we changed it so many different times. We were trying to figure out a way to make that last five minutes segment of the show be some sort of appointment listening thing, which is sort of the motivation behind life advice because I was like, we just needed and shows fun, but have some sort of appointment thing all the time. And we used to always try a million different things and some reason the radio thing had never really felt like any of it clicked. But we got into the old drafting game, which is never necessarily a bad idea. We were drafting fast foods. The canal just was like, Wendy's, they're fries, sock, trash fries was the direct, even tough Wendy's trash fries. Yeah. It was like, I think we did. We were doing it. 20 minutes later. Yeah. Not a great idea. So the email continues. However, never since right with me that canal gets the full brun of it. I don't know the intricacies of the podcast produce responsibilities, but I've always suspected the good chunk of blame falls on some rooty, surely with a top 10 french fries segment. It's not a producer to be in the co-host's ear with a firm. Keep in mind that Wendy's is a sponsor. I repeat, Wendy's is a sponsor. On my mind, because I'm at Wendy's an unsponsored fast food establishment, eating soggy fries and appreciating Danny's speaking the truth, PSI love sorouty. But the everybody hates sorouty angled does make for funny content. Even though that's kind of what that email was. - No, I actually think he's right. I don't remember though, I don't think we were drafting like fat, I don't know, I don't remember what the origin of it was. Like if it was a straight like, hey yeah, we're drafting fast food things, I probably could have been like, hey, don't trash our sponsors here, the three of them, like kind of be nice to them. I don't remember what the actual premise was for it though. So I could be wrong. It feels like it came kind of out of nowhere. - It's on us, the people talking. Okay, on that one, that is 100% on us. That's not, if you knew the dynamic and how that worked. I mean, yeah, maybe like a 20 year producer goes, hey, if you're doing this, let's make sure there's no sponsors on that. So he's roll at that time, Addy, SPN radio on that show, he would not have been expected. Now granted, if we got into trouble, then it's a really probably good to get yelled at. Although they didn't mind yelling at Kennell and they certainly weren't afraid to tell me that I wasn't great, but I mean, it's just what works. - I actually don't think it was Danny's fault either because he didn't really do the reads on that show. So he wouldn't, you know, he probably doesn't, is he listened to every single read that you got, that you would do, probably not. You were doing most of the. - But it's just to move stuff. Like what you, I mean, we shouldn't even be doing it now 'cause we don't know, Wendy's might come to the sales guys with a buy or something. - Oh, we love Wendy's. - Well, if they do that, please do that. - I have to do burgers around there. It's the only one on. - Spicy nuggets, come on. - Well, I shouldn't even say that. You want to have an open mind about sponsors you don't even have, right? You want to be nice about a potential sponsor. So it's not great business to be on the air, trashing any brands whatsoever. So I just, do you have to trust me on this? Actually, it was not in a position at that time to be telling Danny what he shouldn't be doing. Actually, and now I think about it too, I think it was a draft of things that we liked. Somebody said Wendy's fries, and then he said, oh, those trash fries, it was not a negative segment. Now that I'm, now that I'm. - First of all, who would say Wendy's fries, dude? - I don't know. - I love Wendy's. - I think even Wendy wouldn't be in that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's like Burger King. Like now you've seen their new ad pitches. Like yeah, our food is the use to suck. Our bad, it's better. - Dude, the CEO is like out there. - I respect it. - Yeah, but at the same time, it's like my whole real chicken brand. Where it's like, no one should be psyched about you saying, hey, it's real chicken now. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know, they're making, it's 100% real cheese now. - That's like an 80 ad campaign. All right, 1980s, Contra, you know, like, I got it. Hostages, you want to sit there and tell me, like, it's real chicken. In 1980, I might go, oh yeah, this is great. I was like, whoever did it in 2021, I was like, this is fucking stupid. All right, last one here. This one might be a little deeper. I guess, all right, Ryan's self awareness spiral. Hey gang, 27, 5, 10, 180, 250 bench through 65 squat. Then clock it in a 39 minute, 10K. That's five miles. Shout out Oregon. Damn. That's true. I think that's good. Just think about it. - Wait, wait, I had to do it. - 10K is not five, is. No, it's 3.6.2. Is a 5K, 3.1? - Yeah. - Sorry, I got it. Feedback is simple. Ryan is so self-aware, it's almost to his detriment. I agree self-awareness is probably your biggest ally and socially navigating the world. And Ryan is the final boss of it. He's aware of how he's being perceived. And he's aware that he's aware of it. Philosophers could be stumped by that one. Ryan builds counter-arguments to almost every point he makes as if he already knows the pushback before anyone says anything. Same with flexing about his own life or career. He could brag, but doesn't because he was already thinking about what people could come at him for sounding arrogant. Ryan is playing social awareness chest out here. I've always wondered if he is actively thinking about this or knows it about himself. Well, clearly, if I'm that self-aware or is it actually built up from people tearing apart every possible take. Love the pod. Girlfriend is Kyle's number one fan. - You just addressed him here and said like that. - You're a good one to end on. - Yeah, you talked about, I don't know if this was on or off air. Was this something that we've banked? I can't remember where it was, but this was like in the last 48 hours, 24 hours, you were talking about this. Okay, I'll do two parts on this. Obviously, thank you. (laughing) Part one is that social media has made all of us a talk for a living different. And I would argue at times worse, all right? Because what you're doing is I watch a game, I think about the game. And then I immediately know the 10 different things that people will say. And unfortunately, and it's a habit that I've told myself that'll break, but I have not broken the habit is that. It's like just make your fucking point, man. Just make your point, all right? So I think the social media part of this, where you just know that that's what people, their desires are, is there any possible way somebody got something wrong or left something out? Let me get my fucking two cents in. Because whoever is doing that constantly, every single day, I actually kind of like feel bad for you, right? Um, so that is something that is very common with all of us that talk for a living. There is a shift once we all started paying attention to social media where you started building up defenses before you actually built up the offense of whatever you wanted your point to be, if that makes any sense. I would say the second part though, is kind of who I've always been. So maybe it's amplified by social media, but I always felt like if I were going to present this argument, hey, this is how I feel, because I know I get criticized for this, I'm going to present the opposing argument to try to present it, acknowledge it, not because of the social media part of it, just because I think like a natural debate, that would be something that you would want to prepare for. So I like saying, hey, this is how I feel, but it could also be this, this, this or this, because there are very few things as I've aged that I feel like our as definitive is we want them to be. Unfortunately, with this job, you're supposed to be incredibly definitive, which is maybe why I'm more of like a taste than I am the home run that I think people in programming would want. Like if I went and tried out right now somewhere, they might be like, hey, it's got a deep voice we're giving some Saturdays, but they would rather me come out and go, hey, you know, actually, I can Caleb Wilson is going to be more to the NBA than Wimbledon Yama could ever dream of. Programming people be like, fucking, give this guy a show. I would be like, well, I can't do that because I don't believe it and it's absurd. And there's no chance it could possibly be true. But if I were leaning that way, I'd say, hey, I think Caleb, and I don't think this, but like, hey, I think Caleb Wilson, like, you know, there's some things here that are so special, like I could see this, but then I would have to kind of dismantle what would be an absurd out there position that almost no one else would ever have because I just think it's disingenuous to not even acknowledge what the opposite side of the argument could be. So, you know, at times when I've heard or seen someone say, like, you know, in the monologues, which are too long, you know, I'm trying to get better at it. But I, I know how, like that's the other thing, is you can just kind of dis, you could destroy anything you want to say, like somebody says something and just go, oh, is that how you really feel? Is that the real reason? And it just, like, sounds good. And it's just, like, you can't really defend against it. But I don't know. I would never want to not acknowledge a counterargument to the argument that I'm making. But I generally do end up closing on the point, but maybe it's just not as in your face or as harsh or pushed on you in a way where I'm unmoving because I feel like that's a very closed-off way to think, even if it's better for doing this job. And to add to that, unlike the bragging thing, I mean this. I don't necessarily is going to know this is true, but I've had a really good run. But I'm less impressed with myself than you could ever imagine, okay? So there's a lot of things that I don't know if I'll ever get to do them or not. This has been fun and I have a great living and I have a really good life and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I think sports podcasting on the life option chart, you know, like this is good. I've got nothing to complain about, but I'm not, like, I don't, you know, I'm basically a fucking movie critic for sports, which I would rather be. Yeah, there's a world where you're writing the best. DJ and Jamaica, right? I mean, that never happened. That's probably top five then. What's up? No, I don't think I'd want to be a DJ. Although fuck, you see, go to these things now. The hours seem awesome. The work hours seem pretty sick. The hours, yeah, but you got to make a decision, you know, like Diplo, he was very clear. He was like, I'm going to get in a running and some fitness stuff like I can't keep this going anymore. I'm not saying that I want to be a DJ or wish I were a pro athlete or all that kind of shit because like, whatever. I mean, that'd be ridiculous to sit there dwell on those kinds of things. But I would rather have done something in a creative way that maybe stands out a little bit more than this. And that's the truth. So that's why I don't think I'm very confident I have an ego, but I don't think I'm like the shit day to day because the show does well. To your to the point about just like having to set up every argument, I do think it is annoying because I feel like the audience, and I don't, I'm not mean like to criticize the audience, but like there's a lot of stuff out there, not our audience. That means some audiences are dumb. But like, they're. The audience has never felt more confident in arguing something that they probably have seen or read less about. This is sports, this is politics, this is everything. You can watch 90 seconds of an hour long interview taking totally out of context of someone saying something and forming an entire opinion about what that person is and what they stand for. And then you listen to the entire thing in context and you're like, "I know out of context is like, all right, yeah, like some people use this as a cop out, but like a lot of times, I think context does matter." And so it's very easy to listen to somebody say something in a clip and be like, "Oh, that's wrong. Here's what's wrong. This is stupid." And just pick the entire thing apart. That's very easy to do. Everyone does that. But to do a 10 minute segment on your own, where you're having to basically take account for those people, say something interesting, be kind of funny, like that's a really hard thing to do. Like I struggle with it. Like I remember a dip in my toe into like the content thing and the stuff that I do with scale. I just feel comfortable in like saying something every day. I like saying something when I have something to say. But like that's why it's, if you're doing a show, if you're like Ryan or Dan Patrick or Cowher, like we can make fun of some of those guys, but like, that's a hard job. You're going to make mistakes. You're going to say dumb shit. You're going to say stuff that's wrong. And for some reason, like we don't let anyone just like be wrong, it has to be some bigger picture thing about how dumb they are, how seriously they take themselves. And like I'm just like, can we just all collectively kind of calm down? And I get caught up and do it too. Like I'll watch a clip or read something out of context and be like, they look at this idiot. And then like you kind of get put back in your place later when you realize that like, oh, this is the bigger thing of what they were saying or actually, that's not who that's not what they are. That's not what they're about. So I don't like have a solution for it. I just think it's really hard to be like a content person in today's day. It's because everyone wants to tell you how stupid you are all the time because it's easy. Like every single day and you have to figure out a way to get through that. You're going to try yourself crazy, you know, one thing I put my hand up here for guys that think I'm stupid. I know we're not getting back into the time codes thing here just I'm not going to explain what. I'm not going to, I'm not going to re-explain what dynamically add insertion is, but I've just been guessing now I take whatever time it is in my little Pro Tools file. And I throw a 30 to 45 seconds ahead of it. I like that now I'm doing like five second intervals and zero, but I don't know what ads are going to be randomly put in there, sometimes a 30 seconds, sometimes they're longer than that. So if you're frustrated that you have to click around a little bit on the shows that have the DAI ads, you can look up what that means. I'm now just I'm guessing a little bit further ahead, but you know, it's going to be what it's going to be. There's really no. Even if I know what they are one day, they will change the ad the next day and it will be wrong. So we wish it was easier. Yeah, exactly. I'm not quite as much of a fool as you think. I am now giving it nicer numbers. I like it to end at a five or a zero. So I think it just looks better in the description, but yeah, you're going to have to click around a little bit. Sorry about that. I had a buddy that used to press like 92 on the microwave instead of 90 and I was like, what are you doing? And he goes, you're just going to wear out your zeros and fives, man. Wow. I want to talk about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 20 seconds or two, how about 19? Yeah. I couldn't believe it. I've never stopped thinking that's 30 years. That's just a guy whose brain works. I do. That's those are the guys we should be, you know, putting in the space program. Who knows what we're missing by not having those kind of brains? I have OCD. That would fuck my day out. I can't. Like the volume always has to be even number six, six, six, six, five, six, seven, six, four. I'll overheat something just to get it done. If it's not an even number, I'm just like, I got to let it finish. Well, that's just, you guys, I have OCD. I have OCD. There's like, it's a good podcast. You guys could live together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That'll do a Friday feedback. Thanks to everyone on the show. Ryan Russo show. Arstrasports. See you.