Former Pfizer Vice President Dr. Mike Yeadon Speaks Out

I'm very, very excited for our guest today. I've been explaining to Dr. Mark Yeeden for the last month. I've been following you on a lot of other people's podcasts and they're very, very courageous, they've been making it. I've learned a lot from you, too. Dr. Mark Yeeden is a former vice president of Pfizer. He was the company's chief scientist for average being a respiratory. He's been 32 years at the industry, leading new medicine research development. And he retired from the pharmaceuticals and, quote, the most senior research presenter. And quote, in his field, retired what two years ago, Mike. Yes, Robert. So I left Pfizer in 2011 when they closed a new set, UK research base. And so I ended up with a second career in bio-phomotivicals. And I found it my own company, Zyarko. By the way, where are you? I am about 100 miles per coast with France. I'm quite near the post-port of Gover. And so I'm saying, but you're on the British side of the channel, right? Yes. I was wondering because it looks like it's sunshine there. And I know that never happens in England. You're California, California, right? Yeah, California. All about sunshine. I've visited states maybe probably between 1340 times on business. And so I'm hoping it's going to join you in the not too distant future because I'm not confident that the UK and Europe is going to be a safe place. I mean, continue to protest actually. And just today, I'm proud to say that as an alien investor, I'm officially today confirmed that I am in one of these EB5 investment schemes. So it may take time eventually. Apparently the deal is I might help create a reserve US jobs. And in return, they say you can come live. So there you go. Signed reviews today. So we start with you. Well, I recommend my sandwich. It's pretty much my beautiful plate, but because we have palm trees here in the UK, it's all so. It's all very. Oh, I'm dreaming about it. It's been. It actually has happened in California. Okay. So let's talk about what was it first that started to probably do about the vaccine real fast? Yeah, certainly. So I think first, I should say to those who don't know me, I've had no public profile prior to commenting on coronavirus, ever about anything. Not I've not been on the barricade or. Panded that political leaflets, not sort of personally, who's kind of noisy personally. What I noted from, I guess, first locked down really. Standard. Probably by the summer of last year, I was clear. I was a little bit more serious, but I was a little bit more serious. I was a little bit more serious. message itself is destroyed, it should degrade over time. I don't think it's not by design, it should not incorporate to the DMH. So it shouldn't be permanent. Well, depending on how it's designed, you could have pieces that are promoted, something that will amplify the number of times that that mRNA is cocky. So I do think it's possible to modify the intensity of the resultant signal. Maybe I know they can be stabilized somewhat in the actual molecules used to make up this mRNA, they're modified nucleic acid, so they're a little bit more resilient to being broken down. But I think that's what I would call a "you do the experiments and see what you get" rather than we can design a very belonged message. Although I understand and I'm excited to talk about potential for mRNA technology to treat harder treat diseases like a life-frapping. So if you have a cancer and we don't really know how to use a VIN, but we have, we knew experimentally have sent a VITR, taken a tissue of my own tumor perhaps, and we'd shown if you could knock down these three genes, the cancer will die. And then you could manufacture that swiftly with messenger RNA technology injected. You'd think, "Wow, that could cut 10 years out of customized, whatever medicines." But I just don't think they're ever going to be safe enough to give to healthy normal people. I'm not the inner vaccinologist, I've had to read up a lot in the last year, but just to remind any of my peers who might be watching, we give vaccines to people who are healthy. You know, let's keep them healthy and they would remain healthy if they were not injected. And so we have this extremely high standard of proof of safety in my view, over and above anything else, because unlike other medicine, you generally give to people who are either ill ready or they have some process like blood pressure or blood sugar or blood lipids that sound like, and you want to return it to normal to keep them healthy or to treat them. With vaccines, the person arrives at your office healthy and you want them to leave healthy and to be able to defend themselves against the pathogen, don't want it's unethical to risk anything other than a minister chance of harm in my view. And I don't think these mRNA or DNA vaccines, I don't think they come close to reaching that standard. Okay, even though this is an emergency, not everybody would agree with me that we should offer them to people who have got a strong risk of dying if they can track the virus. Then be very honest and tell them these are experimental novel technology products. Probably not as safe as an ordinary vaccine, but here's what we know and then let the person make an informed content decision. But we're not doing that. So we're, if anyone even raises questions like I've done, which I think are reasonable, this is a not normal vaccine, they're out experimental. And I've outlined a plausible mechanism for the pathology we see, blood cells and bleeding. Of course, what you get attacked for doing that. But where I put my foot down, I have two healthy adult girls, 25, 29 years old. And I would be really upset at that end of being coerced and taking these products because they're healthy and young and they're not any measurable risk from COVID-19. And I think they would be a small but measurable risk from these vaccine. And as you may remember, the Europeans both discovered a problem, at least with the AstraZeneca vaccine, when healthy young women, they between 20 and 50, were presenting with life threatening cerebral vein sinusoidal bone clop in the brain. And they, in my view, it doesn't much happen there or often than other people or having in that group that people were often. It's just, my grandfather who is a physician is saying, how young women that are dying. It was almost a joke that it's extremely unlikely you reach this age and like you don't childbirth or go under a bus. So sorry, you pretty much don't die in diseases. And so when somebody, when I think they had seven, the cluster of seven, and then there was another cluster of more than 10, different towns that had the same brain butch, they realized they couldn't look the other way. But I think some people would have been doing that. And I think they realized this is such an unusual and serious problem. And people who don't normally suffer it must be the vaccine. And I think that's when you saw it a few weeks ago, country by country, they paused, roll out, to evaluate it. And I think at that point, they could probably have just about saved their ethics by outlining more or less as I have done, which is that these are, they've been produced very quickly and that's that's American. But they do have some built-in design, you know, consequences. I think a consequence of having chosen Spike Rosie as the, what's called the immune region, think your body is to make, in order to educate the immune system having, having made that design choice. I think it's not unreasonable to expect a class of that risk now with all GMA vaccines for COVID so far, for people who've seen under emergency approval because they all cause the body to produce Spike Rosie or part of Spike Rosie. So that's what I would tell people that my general plea is do you not get vaccinated for non medical reasons? You know, when I hear people say, if I get vaccinated, maybe I've been gone, horror they, rejoin my normal life, or it shouldn't have to do that. That's just crazy. If you're personally worried about risk of illness and death from COVID and you take advice and you choose to be vaccinated, okay, but please, if you're healthy and young, don't push, don't give in to people pressurising you here, pressure or whatever, it's, this is not a safety to you if you do and you're not a risk from the virus, almost everything we've been told, proper to that, the virus has been exaggerated. Sometimes I've said it's untrue, but almost everything we've heard has been exaggerated. The lethality of the virus, the inability of other medicines to treat it, that's not true, what's they don't, lockdowns prevent epidemic spreading with which they don't, so I can explain why that is. And here, one of the worst things which I will get to, push me back, it's not the right time. One of the things that prides me most is another thing that's closer to the truth, but it's not right. Closer to the truth, when viruses replicate, they may typographical errors, a timer. And sometimes those typos produce the viable virus, we call those variants if they survive and are seen in enough people to kind of get sequenced, but it's not true that the variants we've seen so far are immunologically different enough from the original wheelhand bars that you need another vaccine. But I'm told every day by politicians and advisors to government that they will have variants or top-up vaccines ready for us. I'm telling you, one of my strongest suits is immunology, that's not true. Yeah, let me talk, because I think that's probably the most important topic and I want to address it, because I feel they're really derailing us in issues with those arguments and great round of those arguments, it's clear that they're open lies. Let me talk to you just for a moment about this. Parent disproportionate, it's hand-greery to children and young people from the vaccine, which give them an entire different calculus when they're trying to decide whether to take a vaccine of that. And during the phase one trial of the other vaccine, those are horrendous injury rate, 100% of the people experienced injury to the second vaccine and in the I-21% had a stage 4 in me, which means medical intervention or hospitalization and why are they and 6% of the people in the low dose group. And so when I was looking at the phase 2 studies, I didn't see those kinds of injury rates and I called Peter Doe she who's made a comprehensive study of this from the British Medical Journal, Dr. Peter Doe she was the associate editor of the BMJ and I said, you know why are we saying this and he said, you know, he hadn't really studied it, but the possible answer is that in the phase 2 trials, the people were experiencing the worst injuries tend to be younger, no robust people. And he said because those were the only cohort that they had allowed in the phase 1 trial and very, very young, robust people. And maybe that they had a much higher injury rate. I don't know if you think that's true or not, and really we, Peter Doe she was speculative. But he said something important, because if you're young and healthy, your risk from this vaccine is much, much higher. And your risk from the disease conversely is much, much lower. Oh, good work, congratulations to take that is a completely different calculation. Yes, absolutely. It's almost criminal to give this to a child. Yes, I don't think it's an exaggeration, I say I'm off the industry. I've never been more ashamed than I felt in recent months. I almost feel like I've been duped because I honestly don't think in my decades of working with people in research, I came across people who are not good-hearted people trying to do good quality science, trying to make new products that would help people and they needed to help them by improving on existing therapies, so to be better than an existing therapy, or they needed to be safer than an existing choice, ideally both. That was always what we wanted to do. So seeing these products coming out of an industry and maybe it's not going to go over the researches, but someone is misrepresenting the situation where at very least as you described it, there's two moving curves. One is as you get older and already more sick, you're greater risk of illness and mortality from the virus. That we know, if it should also be the case as people do, this analysis may suggest that younger people are maybe even getting worse stage-be-outcome, then the crossover, that is the age below which you would not want to offer these vaccines to people who are not ill, not a great risk from the virus, would be quite high. And my general cut of this is 69, it has happened to be 60. I've not chosen to have this vaccine so far. I'm 60 years old, I have no chronic illnesses, I don't take any chronic medicines for, in fact, diabetes or whatever. So when I look at statistics, there aren't very many people like me and they're guided with COVID-19, it's less than 1,000 out of 750,000 total deaths, for maybe 125,000 or 2,000, so the last two seasons, less than about people who are under 60 and not already chronic ill, I just simply would not offer to that group these vaccines at all, because I think the data shows they do carry significantly greater risk than an ordinary vaccine, they are experimental anyway, so we don't really know the thought of the pattern that the phase two trials don't complete until 2022 or even later. Basically, there's not enough upside in a 300 people, and then to your point of children, I'm horrified to things. One is icing leaflets from groups that are providing guidance to physicians and cancerous to their patients, and they're guiding healthy pregnant young women to receive vaccine, using things like, there's no evidence of harm to pregnant women or no evidence of harm to the developing baby. Well, of course, there's no evidence, they haven't done the studies, and so they're spinning the absence of evidence and trying to make you think that it means evidence of absence, that is, it's been studied not there, that's not true, how's that happening? That upset me, because I know the liddema was a long time ago, but I was different here entirely, but the point is, we have not studied what's called repro-tox, reproductive-tox, collaging, has not been studied, and so I would not want, and I would never have done this myself, I've persuaded anybody to take an experimental medicine where reproductive-tox collage is not being done, and the person is pregnant or maybe pregnant. We have a really serious prohibition, we would exclude women of child-barric potential, or if they were allowed in the trial, we would cancel and say, we haven't done the talk yet, if you want to be in the study, you would have to use warrant that you are going to use, and understand why you should use highly effective into conception, because we knew that we would not, we couldn't wonder why they intercepted this new drug and developing embryo or fetus, and so how can it be more of a fact that without doing formal studies in pregnant women, that the authorities say, not only that it's okay, but it's advised that pregnant women get vaccinated, so that's one, and the other one that makes me can really see where it is children, I haven't done any sort of neonatal toxicology, young animals, we just don't have enough experience really in young people at all, and yet there is a small ongoing trial, I think it's 300 children, people under 16, I say to people in their face, that's not a clinical trial, 300 people as propaganda. The reason I say that is, if you're trying to ruin a risk of something like one and a thousand people getting a serious adverse event, how can you possibly warrant a people, there isn't one when you study it around the people, it's propaganda, it's when I saw the designer try to write, "You need to use a non-spray, do it with a pilot study, fine, it's going to be followed by even much figure study fun, but that's not what they're saying, what they're saying is we're doing a safety study in children, we think things will be fine, when we've got the data, then we'll make the vaccine available to school children, and in UK they're talking about autumn, this year, they're not at risk from the down virus, so to get, you know, I get educated, I get educated, not a single child, I think under the age of 15, can you okay, who did not have serious crevices and illnesses, has died in with COVID, not of it, but with it, not one, so why would you want to go to events in a 10 million children in my country, it's unaccountable? You mentioned before that the risk of adverse event may be linked to the part of your body you actually got to get, I think the prevalent notion among scientists really brings thinking a lot of this is that the biggest risk from positive genetic crime, in other words, people get the end again in the vaccine, which is just like protein, and because then you have been previously exposed to coronavirus, they have an enhanced immune reaction, and a good inflammation throughout their body, and this is what we saw in animals for the years, where all the animals died, and that's something that's at risk that everybody is known about and warned about. But, I agree with the risk, I just don't think it's valuable, should we say, at this, what I would say is, yes, it's a risk, yes, it's definitely happened before, with experimental products like this, as you say, where I think it was ferrous, where bactinase did, and they were fine, but if they compare bactinase ferrous, with unbactinase ferrous and both were exposed, I think it was to a different virus, not this one, that only the bactinase in ones became seriously ill and died, and so, as you say, pathogenic priming antibody depends on the enhancement. Now the exact mechanism is not understood, but it does involve having been, having previously generated some, perhaps, what's called non-serarizing immunosy, it's not a great phrase, but basically, it's an immunity to prevent you being infected at all, and then for some reason, this inadequate protection, open to a greater onslaught, it's not valuable, it could be absolutely awful, there's millions of people being exposed to these, these bactinase ferrous, and all I would say is that it goes back to my mantra, which is, do not get vaccinated for non-medical reasons, you've no upside, and as you say what you've just reminded me, that there's another risk that we don't know what to curve, and if it does occur, you've got health, you know, when we get to the winter season, I wish I could put that one to bed, I can't one, but I think it just reinforces what I've said, only the people are great, miserable, elevated risk of death, severe illness, death of the virus should, chance there are, and give consent, no one else, so please, I think this, and we talked about the children, this this comes across something that's very, very important, we're all aware of two things, I think, in Virgin RS, one is this top up vaccine, I should touch on briefly, and then the other one is the vaccine, by top of vaccine, yeah, that's a British equation, we call them booster vaccines, booster, yeah, booster vaccines, and the danger is that we're being told now that there's going to be these mutant variants, and periodically a year, but thank God we have this mRNA technology, that will allow us to vaccinate immediately, formulative vaccines to each mutant, and then you'll give that vaccine to the entire population, then we're going to have a passport that makes sure that you are, as you would call it, topped up, that you've had all your booster at the spoonage, and alert, or a new variant coming out, everybody has four months to get their boosters and without it, you can't travel, and in this way we become absolute slaves, that's all vaccine paradigm, yes, it's terrifying, it's absolutely terrifying, yeah, just in brief then, think I can explain it quickly, it is true, as I said earlier, when this virus replicates, it makes time for grams of hilarious, it's actually a really good copy, it makes very few mistakes, it's not like in the fluehenza where it can make big leaps. You know, it can change the chance of it's itself because it exchanges bits of genetic information sometimes inside you. And so you see big leaps in the evolution of influenza viruses and they generally do change it even in new vaccine. So I think this is where, whatever reason, whoever's playing this stupid game, they're giving you just an up-intimation but it's adjacent to something that's true, it is not itself true. So the coronavirus is newtaped so slowly. Let me tell you, in 16 months, since it was sequenced in Wuhan, China, it's the most different variant is still 99.7% identical to the original. And most, I think, 0.3% is 0.3%. That's it. I absolutely assure you both empirically and theoretically, that the variant with that little change will slid the past year in the immune defenses, whether they're quite naturally after infection or by vaccination. So I'm sorry about, I've asked hundreds of thousands of people to be excused. Immunologists, doctors, scientists, researchers, challenged me by my love to be wrong. I'd sleep, but I can then sound not wrong. And we are being told, worse than we're being told, some of these companies probably are manufacturing a billion doses of booster virus vaccines. And I think they can't be vaccines because you're already immunized and the change is so slightly, do you not need a change? So this is where I fear that we are best, the scenario described rather than being controlled and required to receive some expensive top-up. It'd be a way of milking humanity forever whilst also having to tell it's air in control. You may have seen me say that so I'm out. Yeah, I don't know. It's not my crime. I have no, it's what they're going to do. My fear is the combination of vaccine passports, an app on your phone that has to be valid at all times, for use, turns out they would normally like. We'll be used to bring you to a centre where you receive your boost jab or top-up jab. And if it is someone's mind and mind to harm or kill us, that's the way they could do it with plausible deniability. And I think there are enough people who think they need to save the world like Colin quite a lot of us. So I've not seen an insider's copy. I don't know that that's their motivation. But what I do know is there's a massive dissent chance of being going on since last year about these new units and variants and they need for a top-up like the booster. That's a massive amount of light. The published literature sports, what I've said, that's why I've got the information. There's been several dozen really good, biological papers that have studied the so-called T-cellium and CMP group being vaccinated or recovered from the virus and asked if we present these T-cells with every variant that we've got at the time they did the study, do they recognise them or not recognise them? The answer is all recognised, all of the variants. So theoretically, practically, what I've said is true. So you need to challenge the public health people who are telling you need to get your jab to the top-up to boost it. Because it's not true. And maybe I'm right. And someone is planning to do some signature at home. Well, one way out of that is not to be in the tracked position that the vaccine passports provide. And as we've discussed, I think, I'm all the view that most people don't need vaccinating at all, and they're not at a elevated risk. Good diets and maybe some medicines will protect almost all of them. And there is risk in vaccines currently, the existing first-generation ones. I was easily solved. A bit of truth. Re-assured people actually, there's no need to be fearful. We've been told to be fearful, but actually there's not anything to worry about now. I think the event is pretty much over, and I'm much more frightened of the government than I am of the virus. Yeah. I think that's right. Tell us what's happened to you. How is this impact? And because of you, it's something that we haven't seen before, which is a high level, you know, Pfizer, which is a high respect, and that means more. And talking about miscaromics and doing it very publicly and very, very aggressively. What have they done to, and so on to other than affecting you from all the social media types? Yeah. Okay. I would say there's been a systematic campaign of written pieces about me, because one way to affect someone like me who they might think has a reputation or pride is to make me have to be a lunatic. And that's why I was keen to say that before the COVID era, I had never made a public comment about it. And so they made me out to be the anti-vaxxer darling. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I am well developed, well understood, vaccine used appropriately. I'm definitely not pro-these texts. They're they don't belong in the same categories, those well understood vaccines. I was just saying, oh, I'm a bitter ex-MPOE. Let me tell you, Robert. I had a lot of your time at Pfizer, and welcome before that. I love my career. And fantastic colleagues, great budgets I could do the work I wanted to do. But I had a 10-year career after that, and I made lucky, I made more money in that 10 years than in the rest of the bitter ex anything. So they've made me out to be either lost in my mind or I must have some other agenda. I don't what it is because I progressively being pushed off the remaining scientific advisory boards. I was on. I was on a few SABs and I understand why they did it. I was on the same, but the CEO is threatening to phone me up and say, we can't narrow controversial person on the board, the Pfizer report. And I say, understand and tended my resignation. So it's cost me friends, reputation, not that I really mind about that. Some people have said it's brave. It's going to be brave or harder to sit still knowing this, the bad things happen. And say nothing. And that's why I'm mystifying. I will say it again, I'm looking in the eyes. And if you're watching this, people I work with over the last 32 years shame on you. Why aren't you speaking out? Unless you believe everything you've been told is accurate. It's just not. And there are several serious frontings going on. You must be close to retirement too. What have you got to lose? So that's the way I treated it. There really isn't anything to lose. There's no peaceful place for me to step back from. I just think I've had a quiet life. We are being controlled more and more. Today the European Parliament discussed, I think it's called green certificate, something like that green certificate. It's really a vaccine passport system. And I watch several hours of debates and most people seem to be in favour of that. And we've lobbied them as well. And maybe 10% understood this is unnecessary. And it honestly represents a totalitarian control system vaccine passport. Nothing like a yellow fever certificate that you need to go to certain parts of Africa. There are the world's first single format digital ID containing editable and then what's called an interoperable database. So it's something that you can share with your assistant and the system can understand what you've shown them and make a decision to let you end it or not to do a transaction or not in real time. There's no system like this. The closest thing we've got is a card. But there are many bank cards. There are payment systems that don't use bank cards as cash. So you're not really controlled by bank cards. But imagine a world in which the only visa and no other means of paying. Well now you are the completely the grip to live your life, to whoever controls that database and the algorithms that sets what happens when you present your past. And so the vaccine passports, it's creating a world's first system that allows everyone to base on its algorithms. They utterly control everything. You're ability to cross any threshold, be it a border or entering into a storm and to spend any of your money if they want to get easily done. I'm not going to hide these specialties and even I paint how that will be done. But here's my fear. If we allow a vaccine passport system to come into being, then they can start with generous allowances that you can do all sorts of things, you currently can't do under COVID protection. And the goal would be, perhaps, to make it less liberal and so you coerce people who are not vaccinated. And I just think that's what's happening in Israel. I'm fearing it'll happen. And then Europe, if they vote for that legislation, if they do, I'm confident the UK parliament would follow very swiftly. And that's why I'm thinking already now. I think it's wonderful. I'm sucking up to Americans. I think I love the fact we've got a written constitution. We have no written rights of any, okay, and they've just been stripped away. And you also have a federal system I noticed that some states have chosen to go their own way and pay with others. And that's created a natural experiment. And that's how people learn really important things. And so I think two things. One is I think to carry on my assistant, shall we say, warning people, I'd probably be best to be in America. And perhaps to help a state that is determined not to have scientific exaggeration for closes of businesses and restrict people in the future. I think I'll go. can help do that. In return, I would like to say to it, I applied for users that they may take time to come through. But it's it's growing dark. Lots of people are written bad things about me. There's no upside for whatsoever in doing what I'm doing. Other than I can say to myself, I tried my best. I've probably got stuck in because I can't stand in justice. I've always struggled with now, if anyone bullies somebody, misses their power, brings an unfairness about, I always respond to that. And then my other attribute, I guess, is I tinkered. You used the expression tinker, where you just play with things to try and understand how they work, mess about with. So I've always messed about the old machinery, I've always messed about with scientific concepts, it's all the same. And so I've combined those things. I tinkered with what we were being told and framed it wanted. And then realized there were injustices and unfairnesses involved. I've no choice but to say, say like I'm seeing it. And I think I said, I'm very scared about the booster vaccines, top up vaccines, and not necessary. So what the hell is in those boxes? And the vaccine passport, on its own, is a totalitarian control system, like we're all well, and actually never thought of. So I think we can avoid those of these risks by stopping the past sports. We can avoid that. So not necessary. Almost in the UK, almost everybody, I think 99% of people from whom any COVID-19 fatalities came have been vaccinated. And also, I don't understand how there are really any remaining vulnerable people. The vaccine genuinely don't work. I think they probably do. But if they don't, then it's the end of the line as well, which I can't see any basis of vaccine passport. So if you're 75 and tell vulnerable, you've been vaccinated, you're now protected. You don't need to know whether the person on the next seat on the train has been vaccinated, not you're presented. And obviously if you're young and carefully and healthy and you're not, that's a significant risk from the virus here. Care about anybody's new stage, I just think you don't need to see the old guy's vaccine passport. Only people in one vaccine passport are over the people who are suggesting that they're necessary. Why are they doing that? I don't know exactly, but it's going to get them complete control for whatever. Yeah, I worry about the things. The simultaneously moving towards these digital currencies. Yeah. They really, really absolute control over all of us. When combined, the digital currency is going to be a big problem. I agree with you. I must say one of the, what I made a little bit of money a few years ago, I realized that I only keep the money as it were the benefits of whoever is a banking system. As they decide that the digits on my screen are real anymore than Scott, because they're not real assets. And yes, it does feel like there's a strong post for digital currencies. I also have people, I don't use very much, do not let the executive ban cash. They don't like it. Yeah, it could be used for criminal behavior, but criminal is going to have no trouble using blockchain or assure Europe, no trouble at all. I did, we should restrict cash as an anti-crime measure is just a lunatic idea. But the reason they want to get rid of cash, I think, is control. If you can spend your money on site unseen away from the authorities legitimately and freely as a pre-sipist, and why should you not do that? And they want that gone. I think along with these vaccine passports, you're likely to be controlled by apps, the rules of which are set by other people are not democratically elected either. So be assured, no need to be fearful anymore about this. We've understood it adequately now. There are several really good medicines, just from the medicine chest, like I did in the X-TIM and the anti-imprancient code of steroids and others. So there's a medicine chest, there's probably good-level herd immunity for those who've chosen to be the vaccination. There was already some prime immunity in the population because this virus is related to other coronaviruses, or at least now seven characterized, and you can expose to any of the common cold coronaviruses. That would probably give you a degree of protection against this one. And then finally, that's the children. The youngest children tend not to suffer from, if they're infected, also very poor transmitting it. So they don't need vaccines to protect them, and we don't need vaccines to protect anybody else. So I'm afraid of the only reason that people are proposing they be vaccinated on the pregnant women, is so that everybody is vaccinated. Everybody is vaccinated now. You can see that it makes sense to recruit them onto something that makes sense to me, but I can see them selling them, putting everybody on a day's bed. The reality is only the elderly and already ill, really benefit from the vaccine. So unless everybody gets vaccinated, the whole idea of vaccine passport is just not enough, because two thirds of people I think shouldn't need to present it since they haven't been vaccinated. For every time I speak to somebody, hopefully, Robin, you've got a huge audience. So thank you for letting me use that. And I hope every time a few thousand, maybe few tens of thousands of people go, wait a minute, this goes on to the validity, or, oh, crank it. Yeah, maybe we're not being told the truth. And you're not being told the truth. You're not. It's been exaggerated, made persistence, ineffective measures put in place that I think become on the me civil society and your community, and it could get worse. So just they know more of this, take back your own lives, work with people who like me, I like to become normally a moderate person, and I wouldn't recommend you do something that would be harmful, but you can just take this. If you do that, there are far more of us than they are, whoever the them are. So it's in our hands for us to take it back. Dr. Michael, thank you very much. We are truly a hero. Please let us know when you come to Boston. I can say you are at the dinner. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Keep going what you're doing. Take care of your house. Thank you, Mark. Thank you very much. I will do that. Cheerio.