Football Is Back, Wisconsin HC Luke Fickell, USC HC Lincoln Riley, Rutgers HC Greg Schiano + Mt Rushmore of Things You Hated As A Kid But Love As An Adult

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But yeah, there's not a whole lot going on in terms of on the field stuff. But we are able to make snap judgments on quarterbacks based on what they're wearing and how they walk. How do they walk here? CJ Stroud, you got to know the cameras on you. Yeah, you got it. What? If that you're back to school outfit that you've had months to play it out, we need to do a little bit, a little better. I think your quarterbacks need to look good walking into a game. I think showing up to practice. It's like you're showing up to practice. Yeah, I don't think the first day of camp is like worth. It's almost the opposite. Imagine if you showed up like Stuntton, you'd be like, this is trying too hard to worry about football. Yeah, true. That's a good point. Quick while Max is in between. Jalen Carter resigned there. We talked about it. Yeah, it's a good deal. I think probably. Yeah, probably good deal. Really good. Yeah, I mean, it's. We are, we have no what? What are you shaking your head, Max? I heard you say Jalen Carter as I was leaving the room. No, he didn't. No, no, no, no. It's not about CJ Stroud. I heard you say Jalen Carter. Jen Daniels. Yeah, yeah. We have nothing. This is the part of the sports calendar where yeah, the CJ Stroud walking with baggy shorts is the biggest story of the day. That and I don't think anyone else any other big stories happen. Oh, Jerry Jones wants to trade the future for now. He's getting desperate. I think he's finally realizing that everyone dies because he said he's, he's willing to trade picks for to make the team better right now. And he had talks with the team. Actually, it's so funny that you mentioned he had to talk with the team yesterday. We don't know his team or about what, but he did talk to one. He's ready to make a splash. He's, he's inching because it's been about a full calendar year before anyone's talked about Jerry Jones as it pertains to his job as general manager. Yep, so he's looking to make a splash. Michael Parsons, the guy they traded last year. I did see the other day. He's, uh, he's not fully embracing his foot fetish. Oh, he's openly talking. But he posted about it online. He's like, he's like, God help me. I just love feet. The only way out is through. He's got to just, he's just got to embrace it and let everyone know he's, he's a foot guy. Yep. We got to keep going with that. Um, Brandon and Iyuk, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually showed up to commander's camp. Like I, I'm being actually kind of honest. I think he might pull up to Ashburn. Yeah, he might do the thing where it's like pads helmet with a sign. You know, like my name is Brandon. I you, I will work. Yep. Please let me in. Yep. Even though he's under contract kind of could definitely happen. I think that he's probably going to show up to the facility at some point. Yes. Um, we also had, uh, V2V ask for a trade, which isn't super significant because he is the end of his contract normal to ask for a trade to try to renegotiate Zach. I do have a question for you though. Mike Evans. San Francisco 49er. V2V asking for a trade. Baker Mayfield could be re could get a long term deal has not yet from the box. Some feels wrong. And I think it's all about Todd bowls. But I like to retweet that is all about Todd bowls. It's not easy. Everybody but Todd. Now the players want to leave. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. They brought Todd bowls back when you like I was thinking about it this morning because the V2V news happened and I was doing wake up parcel with our good friend Steven Che. The, the bucks finished to the season last year was like one of the saddest teams I've ever seen. And I don't know how you didn't fire the coach after that. But yeah, we didn't have a sad roster to reflect that. And they got rid of everybody except the head coach. I guess the argument was like he's won the division several times. But it's also like we plan to dog shit division pretty much. We're not a huge accomplishment. Yeah, they so we got another year of Todd bowls. We got some of our franchise guys, you know, one Jersey guys. Being like, I give me a trade. Mike's out V2V might be out. And Mike Evans feels like he was out like if Todd bowls had been traded. I feel like Mike Evans would have probably been a buck. I think you may be stays. I don't think you go I don't think you may be a family crossing entire United States to pay more in taxes. Sure. Because it's a lot more taxes. I forgot about taxes. But it is, it is weird because I think Jason Light is a very good GM. We're all Baker guys here. I think you should resign him. And it just feels like the vibes are off because Todd bowls like he, they finished two and seven last year. Remember some of those games, how pathetic like the fight was on the team. And there was injuries. Yes. Sure. But Todd bowls just staring blankless into the into the camera doing nothing. And then you brought him back. I don't know. The box might be a bummer team. I they might be on bummer watch. They might be on bummer watch. I would say that if there's one quarterback that I would like to bet on when he's betting on himself. It's probably Baker Mayfield. Yeah, betting on himself. He's still got a little of the Texas tech quarterback in my guess. But it has nothing to do with the players on the field. It has to do with Todd bowls. Yep. And I just don't think I, it doesn't make sense to me. Todd bowls had showed us an ounce of emotion, good batter and different for years now. Yeah, I don't know how you maintain the confidence in the locker room doing so. What was that quote that he had after the game last year? He was dropping F bombs. He tried to like fire himself up. Yeah, that's right. Can we look up what that quote was? Because that was, I've never seen a coach try to talk themselves into being fired up. I can do this. I can swear. I can be a big guy. I can be a big kid. You say that F word Todd. You say it loud. Max also, Jalen Carter resigned. I don't know if you heard we talked about it already. Uh, yeah, I heard you talked about it. Okay, we moved on from that. Yeah. All right. Cool. Do you have anything to say about it? Uh, yeah. Great. I like to make doesn't exist. I like to make Max multi task here. There's no way he's going to find this Todd bowls. Well, you asked me a question. Yeah, Jalen Carter, chew gum and walk. Can't chew gum and walk can barely chew gum or walk. Okay. Jalen can spit and walk. Mm-hmm. Can do both. Well, he was kind of standing still. Yeah. But he can spit and spit first. By the way, that was the best part of the quarterback show. And when Baker made a field and was talking shit to Jalen Carter, he's like, you still spit? Yeah, spit. Problem. You like to spit? Mm-hmm. The, uh, all right. Do you have it? Do you have it? I found it. Oh, thank you, Hank. I, Hank, where'd it go? This is off the heels of this was actually memes. I was doing this before, uh, before we started the show, memes just shall tank or no, Max said Hank pretends that he can't even do anything in there. No, he's, I said he, I said, Hank actually likes he can't move in there. Now he found it faster than you. All right. Here it is. Well, memes found it. This is the guy they brought back. Where does shit hurts? And we don't have no sound. That's shit. Okay, here we go. Got a fucking main something. Oh, it's more than a job. Wait, wait, if you got kids in the car, hang on. Yeah, go back. Go back. If you got kids, uh, tell them actually listen to this, they have to make some pieces. So we, you got a fucking care enough where the shit hurts. You got a fucking care enough where the shit hurts. Got a fucking main something to you. It's more than a job. It's your fucking livelihood. How well do you know your job? How well can you do your job? Well, you can't sugarcoat that shit. It was in the fucking excusable and there's no fucking answer for it. That's for no excuse for it. That's what you tell me. You're in the fucking mirror. Oh, man. Did he say indefucking excusable? Yeah, I'm right. I don't know. Indefucking excusable. It's a pretty awesome word actually. I'm very run through a fucking brick wall right now. Holy shit. That pumped me up. I like how he's kind of self censored the first fuck. Yeah. He, he, he dropped out on that one and then he was like, you know what? You know what? Todd just, you get in there. You fucking go for it. That's your coach, Zach. I'm gonna ride with Todd in the team when season starts, but he even said that in a careless tone. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Agreed. Bad spot. Agreed. Some more information came out about Kyle Shanahan about the accent. Chris Sims, who has a Kyle Shanahan tattoo on his leg. People forget. He found out about a couple of weeks ago that he almost lost one of his eyes. So apparently he's pretty serious. And Kyle talked with the media. He spoke with the media. Yeah. He said that he, he was at fault. Yeah. He was reaching for his cell phone, hit someone swarming the wrong lane, hit someone going 20 miles an hour. I still don't understand. Like that feels like that's the end of it. But it's also just weird how it all just we didn't get any details till now. Yeah. It is kind of strange. I'm guessing maybe he wasn't buckled up because 20 mile an hour is, it's not that fast. But if you're not buckled up, it will fuck you up. In heads on head on head on collision. Yeah. It'll fuck you up. But I mean, I'm glad that he's okay. Glad the eyes are right. Buckle up everyone. And I patch on the sidelines with a rock though. Big time. Yeah. Maybe a parrot. Yeah. It's really, really go all the way with it. Kyle Shanahan would have been. Yeah, it would have been cool. Max, do you have anything about LeBron being 76er? But I think we talked, talked about it, but we didn't get all the way into it and not living in the city of Philadelphia. He's officially going to live in New York. We talked about this. No, but not all the way. I also learned a new fact that Will Chamberlain did this. I learned that as well. Craze. That J. J. Retic didn't know that Will Chamberlain did it. Yeah. Crazy. It's not that crazy. Well, it's crazy to do it before like helicopters and shit. That's yeah, like he drove every time. Do you think there was traffic? Traffic did exist back then. Other people like cars. But do you think it was as bad? No. Probably not. I think probably the train. He might have taken the train train to England. LeBron will take the train. Why does the LeBron buy his own train? LeCuchu. LeCuchu would be awesome. LeCuchu would be incredible. Yeah, that would be cool. DeBron expressed if there was and that would be cool. That would be cool. I would do that. I mean, he has enough money. He could just buy out an entire car every single day. Yeah, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would have no problem doing that. That's he should do that. He should absolutely. Yeah. People should make sure that he does do that. Oh, you're okay. So you want him on LeCuchu? Yeah, I would like to. LeCuchu. The good thing is New Jersey Transit. The trains always run on time. So he'll never be late if he doesn't. I wonder where he's going to live in New York City. It's Amtrak. It's not New Jersey Transit. Where do you think he's going to live in New York City? That is what I want to know too. Probably like Central Park. Yeah, like, or like, could live in Dumbo East East side. I don't think we'll live in Brooklyn, but you can just take the BQE over Staten Island. He's he's he's he's village Upper East side. You think he's going to try to do the thing where he just kind of lives in a hotel. Like, if you lived at the four seasons, I think you'll have like four seasons in Philly. Like, one of those like pen houses like around Central Park. Yeah. What if he does like, Hoboken so that he can play that golf course? What's that golf course? Oh, Liberty. Liberty. That was playing that. I think he played that role. That would rock it if LeBron was in Hoboken. Why would you live in Hoboken? Just live in Philly. Yeah. Live in like Cherry Hill. Jersey. That's where I like most of the Eagles players. Right. Probably should live in Philadelphia. In Philadelphia. Well, if you live on like the East, if you live on like the Lower East Side, you can just take a ferry to that course. Do you think maybe he'll and maybe if he lives on the Lower East Side, he lives close to the to the heli pad. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably the heli. That's probably it. What the heli pad? Because you did play that course multiple times in the past couple of weeks. See that and now it makes sense. Is he going to get into every course in the greater Philadelphia area? Yeah. Is that okay? No, Oakmont's Pittsburgh. Yeah, it's Pittsburgh area. Marion is the Philly is the Philly one that is off the North. How has life been with LeBron so far? It's great. I. How's your LeBron relationship? Our guide Dom has made a playlist of high different highlight YouTube highlights for me to watch. And that's been nice. Just go on that. That's the biggest cutway. This is so time like this is Dom going through a tough breakup. Like he's still in his mind. It's not fully over. And so he's like, I want you to I want you to watch what I've been watching. Yeah. And I want you to experience how much I love him. Please take care of him like I would. This is how you should tickle my my girls nipples. Yeah. That's literally what he gave you the playbook to to having sex with LeBron. He's like, I just want her to be happy. He I guess you can also like put a cover photo for like a YouTube playlist. And he just made the cover photo of like me pointing at him when I say I'm sorry that you have to film this. When it's the reaction of of the. The most cutway. Yeah, this is sad. This is your. I'm going to have to talk to him. I've had to talk to him about this before. I'm going to have to talk to him again. Max how many hours of highlights have you watched so many. It's the best. Yeah, it's the best. What are you thinking? Wait, wait, what's your expectation now for next year? Give me a win total. I did speak to our good friend, Ron. He disagreed with some of the things. He thinks the championship robust. Yes. And he said that I'm going to have to hear that hear that from him. And he said that he has no problem booing if things go bad. Yeah. So what's your answer, Max? I would like to be a top three seed. And top three seed. Top three. Okay. Well, he did kind of say he was like, do I think we're going to win? Like, I'm not going to guarantee it. But yeah, you got to say championship robust. Well, see, the way you word things, you make people answer the way that you want them to. No, no, we haven't. Just a regular conversation. He admitted that like, he was like, you got to say championship robust. This is like, what's the point? You got the team. Max, let me give you a little hint here, because you've only been in the show for what, like five years. Some like, you barely know us. The words that you say right now, don't mean anything. Correct. You could say we like, we like watching you squirm. And then we're just going to play semantics games with you. But you can literally say, yes, championship or bust, and then turn the page, and then nothing will be different. Everything will be fine. I promise. You don't know that. I don't trust us. Trust us. Just say championship or bust. Just trust us. No, because then you're going to use that against me. It is sad without it. It's very sad that you were just going to get to get again, right? Is it trust us? Philly Scott provides itself. Trust us. Once proud mighty sports town, bending to knee for LeBron, it's sad. The other news, Jerem on green re-signed with the warriors. And I feel bad for Steph, I think. I don't really know. He's just going to run out like, Steph is still good. Yeah. Well, Jerem on was like, hey, is that offer that you made? Is that still good? Like, can I just go back and do that same thing I was doing earlier? Yeah. And they're like, yeah, I guess it didn't work out. I'll just say this right now. Steph Curry, if you're listening, I'm sure you're in a WL. If you go to the Thunder or Spurs, we will not call that ring chasing. We will call that we get to watch more competitive Steph Curry basketball. And that's awesome. I think it's just an arm race. Yeah, we can, but we can bend anyway, which way we want. It's an arms race at this point. Yeah. And if you want to keep up with, you know, the presumptive NBA champions, the Philadelphia 76 calls his 76ers. You almost half, I won't even call it ring chasing at this point. No, it's just like you have to form the Avengers to take out the super team. You're just creating an iron dome. Yep. Against against the fall of the 76ers. Yeah. We also had the Jeff Passon reported that there's some owners who think there's zero percent chance for playing baseball next year, which I think we need to start sounding an alarm and letting people know this is a major, major problem. I don't know. Like, I'm at the point where I, so the Cubs are going to be buyers. We need it. We need some arms, right? I would love to have Terrick Scoobal on the Cubs. I kind of want the Dodgers to get Terrick Scoobal just to maybe push people to be like, Hey, we actually do need change. We need to play baseball. Is that stupid? Wait, so if Scoobal goes to the Dodgers, it probably has no effect, but in my mind, I'm like, if the Dodgers win another one in Scoobal's, they're starting like their number, their ace. Everyone's like, dude, this is so broken. We got to figure it out. So then you think the players will be like, yeah, maybe like we'll probably not. We'll take a salary cap as long as the Dodgers don't win. Again, probably not. Maybe not. But I'm just I'm, I'm grasping it straws because summer with no baseball, what the fuck are we going to do? We got to re, we got to rerun the, the World Cup. Yeah, what do we have? Women's World Cup. Women's World Cup. Okay, what else? We're going to be all over the women's World Cup. We should win that one. Do we just become WPMT or in we just do WMBA? I actually have already inquired. Yeah, banana ball. Oh, man, I need more banana ball. Maybe we get into cricket in the United States. No. No. Thank you. It should take forever I think there's a new there's a different kind. It's not like the multiple day when I forget what it's called What are we gonna do? It's like red zone for cricket as a country. We need to figure this out. We can't do this paddle no there God damn it beach volleyball They made they might need to do like what about two masters The college world series we get will will not I know because that's still during the NBA I know I think we need to do like double major college baseball back Because that would be coming to get into college baseball for for for wants. Oh, man, little league world series little league world series Yeah, just like allow them to wear the professional teams hats and uniforms. Yeah, I don't know. We're in trouble We got us. We got what it might silver lining in Christian yellow. It's probably won't win the home run derby true True, but we just I think I think we're all I don't know what we can do But everyone's got to put their heads together and we got to figure something out because we can't do this We can't do some or no baseball and And listen if baseball wants to start late that's fine if baseball wants to play like 130 games And they start after the NBA playoffs great. That's fine, but you can't do just if we're sitting here one year from now exactly at this point and we're like we have not watched a meaningful Like major sporting event in like two months. Yeah, be brutal. So yeah, the lockout is probably gonna happen Nothing's gonna change. I think it's almost 100% that there will be a lockout for at least a period of time Someone fix it Jeff pass and fix it. Please. Well, maybe they just Fix it Jeff complain in April and it's backed by July Then it will feel even better right right that's what I'm saying. I can I can handle that I can handle that maybe they just go dingers only schedule What would we do that would be weird if we did dingers only to start the season? We would draft so many guys that would suck Yeah, how about this how about Okay, the players have their idea for what they want the next CBA to look like the owners have their idea for what they want the next CBA to look like Why don't we flip a coin? I love that just flip a coin we and we can sell tickets and live stream the coin flip I love that and then take all that money and then put that towards the next round of contracts So get a little bonus on top and then heads owners win tails players win What about this the coin and you have to abide by the coin. Yeah What about in this might end up being illegal? I don't really understand how it would work But what if the MLB PA I assume there's like dues that they have to pay Mm-hmm. What if they do like a you know when you live in a condo building and they and they have an assessment And it's like hey, we've we got a new roof like everyone's got to pay 10 grand What if the MLB PA does an assessment? Every MLB player has to pay 10 grand they take that money and they bet on the Dodgers to win the world series And then they redistribute that and be like boy, so let's just play I like that right? I like that a lot Yeah, or again, I don't know if that's it might might be a little funny business there, but a little Little golden parachute or you take all that money and you give it to Shohei And then and then have Shohei put something on a checklist of hockey and ping pong Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then like probably double if not triple. Yep. What you invested crisis a verdict. I liked that We got a lot of ideas. Let us know let us know MLB Rob fixes out man fraud Please, please, please save us Jeff passes. So yeah, I have no idea how this the the whole trade deadline this year Nobody really knows what's going to happen with that because of the lockout that's coming out And if you have a pending free agent or a guy that you're trying to work out a deal with I guess you would rather do it now And because no matter what happens with the next CBA It's going to be more expensive for the owners to pay the players like that price is always going to go up a little bit So if you're a smart owner you would want to extend your guys right now as opposed to waiting to laugh for the CBA Yeah, just something to think about something to think about Okay, let's uh, let's do hot seat cool throwing and then we'll do our Mount Rushmore and then we got three awesome interviews talking football Before we get to that draft Kings this summer whatever you're watching baseball golf soccer racing draft Kings has you covered for every single moment of it The draft King sports app is now available in all 50 states bringing the game straight to your fingertips wherever you are From Florida to Texas to California. 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eliminate some stuff here this probably good time to just did you think about wearing all the shirts at once wait walking down the street i have to roll and then how many do you think you can put on at one time uh they had to be different sizes if we're gonna stack them you paid by the box i paid roughly by the box yeah what do you mean your boxes were out like i think that sounds like you didn't ask for another box there's no way you paid by the box there's no way they made me estimate furniture and boxes over the phone and then i gave him 25 and then i was at that that sounds like an estimate though but they bring out their box you can ask for more boxes first time mover you know also i will say you guys are right movers might be the greatest thing on this planet yeah no shit what do you got me why you threw out all your shirts it's crazy move i moved you know what's the matter i honestly the perfect time you you redo the box no but you they're all the same shirt but you but i know what Hank saying i don't know what's actually no i don't know what Hank saying he couldn't bring that he was moving his clothes he can't he didn't have room for his clothes but he threw out shirts to buy the same shirt and he has new apartment fresh because he was moving fresh boxes their socks and the shirts but you don't have shirts i got shirts but like you're not wearing a black shirt right now i thought yeah i got back order that's where we started that's how it started so you're screwed i got an email or a DM back today like subscribe to our email list we'll get let you know can you go back to your old department and go through the maybe like and maybe another like companies sells black shirts there's no other black shirts there's tons of companies but there's only one that feels right you know right and you're moved and did move what else you throw your toothbrush uh well yeah that's a lot of dramas would a lot of like what Max what if you're if you're moving you can get a new toothbrush it's neat it's going on yeah what is going on no wait i got moving your shirts throwing everything out i don't think you guys are understanding what kind of is what moving is it's you you take your stuff that you have and then you move it you move to a different you move it you don't throw it out you move it toothbrush comes with me you just go there's CVS right by your right by your spot you can just get it you like Max and Max and Zach treat moving like they robbed a bank and they're starting a new life in a different town might as well throw it out yeah witness protection because you move down the block a toothbrush a letter that comes with yeah not for Max he throws out his toothbrush i'm a manual guy yeah i will say that when you do move it's a good opportunity to throw out clothes that you don't wear oh yeah yeah like junk yeah but you wear those shirts now you don't have any memes go ahead how did you throw out the 95 shirts oh good question i just put them in big pile and put them in trash bags so you could have just picked up that trash bag and prod it to you. But they were gonna ding me the movers were gonna be like this is no, they wouldn't have you guys You could have walked the trash bags yourself the boxes though it would have been another box Yes, you're all about the kids are unbound points you have pictures of the trash bags with all the shirts I mean, I guess I probably have one of all the shirts Why did you take a picture of them because I was like should I could I carry these and then yes? I usually run stuff like that by my brother like what do you think and what do you say he's like now? Just did you Can you email that picture the backs and then max pull it up? I'd like to see there's so many t-shirts I feel like your brother might just just covering his entire kitchen floor Put the put the email it said it to me. Yeah, I'm it to me. Yeah, I'm it to It was a great time to do it fresh start, you know, I did obviously not their back order Stop saying fresh start. He's gonna have some he's gonna buy the same shirt, but he can't yeah But fresh shirts are different than shirts you've had forever, but I never saw that coming I've never seen a back order a day in my life. You should have probably jacked. I didn't think that could happen I okay, I'm starting to think maybe maybe we can explore a different black shirt. No Sometimes you like what you like. Yeah, I run through many ones. It's a thought. No, PFT That's actually that's actually the craziest thing is because earlier I was like no, that's crazy But now I'm thinking you understand because they might be back ordered for for months. No, Zach's true. Zach's black shirts They're like they're like very black. There's super popular shirt. There's no way they stand back over too long There they are very what if there's none more black what happens if they are though Well, the weird thing is they'll still give you the 3v3 split pack like you can get three white ones and three black ones And I'm like wait, can't go. Are you gonna start wasting money by buying? No, no, that's why drill line. Okay, that's wasteful Yeah, that'd be like buying Neapolitan ice cream when you just want chocolate That'd be like buying a t-shirt once and then throwing it out. They'd be like buying That'd be like buy you like an ice and you used to do that too. How many did you have? He's doing fine lost a lot of money. He's doing great Okay, wait, so send the picture. Who are you looking for to sing a lot of poloza? I'm looking for a great artist lose very bright great artist. Thank you to tick pick. Yeah, thanks tick pick all right So in the jersey you got to get jersey. I got a couple options. I got a Jordan if you want to wear it ill fit We might be different. Yeah, I was thinking That's a big jersey. You're in better shape to me might not fit and not not necessarily true But it's a big jersey. You're so close to that. I think it's more that his shape is different than yours We have yeah, we have way different builds. Yeah, you're like more traditional build. I got a wonky one I'm trying I'm trying. I think I think you got traditional builds No, Zach you out you're you and I have actually similar builds like the little bit of the Refrigerator on toothpicks kind of deal. Yeah, the skinny legs and then everything goes to the stomach and just we're two sponge Bob guys Feel like Rex Ryan exactly. Yeah, we're built like SpongeBob Okay, hang oh, he's about to send the picture well, he I I am with him multitasking his heart, so you were talking to him So he wasn't able to send it to me and now you're not talking to him and I was still kind of oh here it is here it is He's still struggling. Nope. He's about to click send. Why is Tiger Woods trending max? Probably some good some really good. I don't know. Why don't you have the picture up? You're out you're asking me something else Okay, here it is And oh my god, that's a lot of that's a lot of t-shirts. That's a Fuck ton of you could have taken like five of them. Yeah, I took five takes Okay, yeah, that's a great time to restart. Do you have a washer and dryer in your new apartment? Yes, oh driver good. Oh, they're fine. Yeah, we're gonna go spot. I like the new place Everything's going well. Have you figured out are you doing bedroom bedroom? I was gonna do it and then Multiple women in my life for like hey if you ever want to just have any kind of future of interpersonal relationships You can't do it. So you know, so you're doing bedroom bedrooms. Yes, I'm doing bedroom bedroom Not not living room bedroom. I will say my only the only question I asked on the tour was do the outlets in the floor work Because I'm a big desk guy. She's like of course they work only thing doesn't work is yeah, it's in the floor I make it arson you got you got bamboozled is the only question. Yeah, two minute tour all you need it It looks like tiger is trending because Rory and Scotty are about to catch him for all-time earnings Before the end of the year. That's kind of crazy. That is crazy. All right, hot sea cool to row my hot seater are the Jets Why would happen? Plexico Burris was on the joint venture show and he had a quote about playing for the Jets and prison He said they're both kind of similar because when I walked into prison on my first day. I was like Damn, man. You a fucking loser and I had the same damn feeling every day. I walked through the door with the Jets Oh my god, that is brutal. That is pretty tough. It's also a very funny quote memes It's mean. I wouldn't say it's the funniest quote. It's very funny. It's a pretty funny quote like objectively speaking like damn You're a loser. I mean, he is a loser. He shot himself in the leg went to prison and played for the Jets Jets were coming off two AFC championship appearances, so they weren't that bag of a loser. Yes, so why did you say that? He's probably feeling like a loser. How bad could it have been He also played it and you know he was in New York. There's same stadium. Yeah, mm-hmm. Good point. He should be thankful He's not you know, it sounds like he's actually he hates the Jets 100% not thankful At all Did you like him before that is rooting for the Jets like being in prison? Oh, yeah What kind of question is that? Yeah, well you knew you know what kind of question is the question that you're gonna Give the answer hangs gonna love and he had a smile Was I'm saying you can relate to him. Yeah, you played into his hands there memes. You gave him what he wanted It's like Brad Stevens with six years Oh God of memes Brad Stevens being my jam is like it's like heaven on earth at waking up every day right now. You think every day. Yeah, every day Paul George is thinking of for Paul George. Yep. Thank God. Wow. He's saying God for Hugo trust process. Yeah, that much Uh also the bills AFCs to continue with the AFC East They put out their new alternate jerseys whatever they're they're horrible. Yeah, they don't even look like NFL They don't they don't look like an NFL team jerseys. Yeah, I don't know what they're looking at here I hate the helmets you can get away with everything with the gray jerseys And a couple teams like the lions even though it's a shitty gray jersey I don't like the bone white that the the ram the ramps have like kind of a grayish one that they wear to I mean no one If you saw that helmet is if you saw that from the side no one is thinking that's the bills. No looks like a lion's It's a actor. Yeah They did our guide Dion Dawkins dirty too. Oh man that one picture where it looks like he just dropped heat And like he I was saying they're on wiggle bars. It looks like he he's standing outside the bathroom Just saying to people. Hey, you're gonna want to give that a minute To everyone. Let me see this picture. It's bad. He's it's like the industrial picture. He's yeah, there it is. Oh yeah Yeah, oh, you're not gonna want to go in there. That's what he's saying But almost the way that he's proud of it. Yeah, right. Yeah. No, it's the John Travolta where real man just went in there where he's he's shrugging your shoulders That is a man that's proud of the work that he's left behind. I liked that they release these because they're so bad It may be scarce some teams away to be like hey, you shouldn't like all alternate jerseys aren't great Yeah, we've gotten to a point in all sports or it's like if it's an alternate jersey people are gonna love it something different No, no bills have great jerseys. I think tight is said it perfectly to build somehow fucked up red white and blue Those are their colors And they mess that up date what they should have done is they should have gone Zubaz Yeah, should have gone like Zubaz pants dude and the buffalo bill instead of being red Zubaz buffalo bill It should be Zubaz pants and then like a bills T-shirt jersey with a little bit of puke on it. Yeah, that'd be good too. That would be sick That'd be sick and my cool thorn is love Just Herbert Massim beer. Yeah engaged Hey, do you hear this one? You hear about this one that That's the only ring that Justin Herbert's gonna get That's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good, right? That's really really really good embrace the bitch of Justin Herbert take her last name. Yes But no, that's not no, it's not a hot. No, that's not funny. That's that's number one jersey seller Justin beer would be a great name 100% I don't think about there's only one quarterback that loves mass and beer more than Justin Herbert and that's Tony. What if you want to hyphenate it? Yes Yeah Herbert beer. Uh, I think Beer brute Her beer her her beer But that's we were talking joking about in the year her beer is just is like a martini So Before yeah, yeah, yeah, attractive couple. Yeah In Yokech one other horse race. Yeah, okay. That celebration's going He acted like I don't know what what the level of horse race was, but it might as well You know at the triple crown. Yeah, he just gets so excited. It's so funny. I fucking love Yokech He's the absolute man. He's like one of the only guys out there Who's like it when he's when he would if he says like I don't listen to the outside noise 99.9% of the people are just bullshit You he is someone I believe he's locked in on the ponies. Mm-hmm. That's all he cares about Okay, you're hot sequel to run pft My well Hank took like three of my houses. Yeah, he just kept going. I've just gobbled him up two of each I'm gonna see my hot sea is the Arizona Cardinals. Oh, um, I mean we talked about we just gasped him up for resigning the quarterback in the future Jacobi percent. And then I just saw the stat that came out. They have the lowest expected win total since 1995 in the expansion. Well, I thought you were going to say for a different reason because I was shocked when I saw Nathaniel Hackett is there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was like, when I saw him at the podium, I was like, holy shit. Yeah, Nathaniel Hackett's there for sure. Man, remember the 14 games that we didn't bash him because we had him on the show. Yep. He was funny. Basically, it was like, he like like portals. And so we were like, okay, fair enough, we won't say anything bad about your coaching. We should send that to future guests, like who don't know about part of my take is to be like, hey, you come on. Like we didn't say shit about Nathaniel Hackett for well into like him being an absolute moron head coach. Yeah. They the win total is three and a half this year. They had the hardest schedule. It looks like by far playing the NFC West would do that to not realize that it was it was the hardest schedule in the entire league. And yeah, three and a half win total. That's why Jacober said it was right to yeah, to hold out. He's like, I know what you guys want me to do. He's like, this year's going to suck. You want me to move the ball every now and then to a point where you can say you weren't taking on purpose. Yeah. And he is the perfect guy for that. They actually should probably be paying him like 50 million. There is basically hush money. He's perfect for the job. If you're looking to win a Super Bowl, you signed, you know, Patrick my homes. If you were looking to get the number one pick, but pretend like you were trying, Jacobi percent is the number one guy for that. Who would that be in basketball? I think it's Jordan pool. No, because he's pretty. It's pretty much you're you're trying to James Harden. James Harden. No, but you'll be too good if you have James Harden. No, but you'll never. Yeah. Yeah. If you're tanking. Yeah. If you're tanking. If you're fully tanking. Yeah. Yeah. Might be Jordan pool. And my cool throwing is going to be making money. My cool throwing is going to be the old mighty dollar because college football teams are now selling jersey patches. Yeah. We've got a couple that came out. Yeah. The first one Notre Dame is putting Sofi on their their jerseys. And Ohio State has chase bank patches on their jerseys. Okay. It's just going to keep happening. This is I mean, honestly, I'm shocked that it took American sports so long to sell the jersey patches. Yeah. That's something that has been going on over. So he's now granted they don't have advertisements like all over the stadiums over in Europe like they do in America. But the one thing that they did beat us to the market like 30 years was the jersey patches and sponsorship rights on those. So I'm looking forward. I'm hoping that Georgia can get Geico. That would be very funny. And outside of that, Miami Coke would be good too. Yeah. If Coke stepped up for that. Yeah. But yeah. So it's it's Sofi for Notre Dame, it's chase for Ohio State. And I think that we're just going to keep here. It's going to be like a slow trickle that comes out as they start to make money off these. But it will be like every single college football team within the span of the next couple of years. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is live. Hey. Why did you mention that? What happened? I don't know. They canceled Detroit. The last tournament of the year saw that the one that you said that we were going to play. I said it wasn't canceled yet. And it is officially now. Well, okay. So now we're at yet. Is it canceled or postponed? I think it's canceled. I think I think I think live might be done. What? I mean, I think they were trying hard to find some new sponsors that looks like it's going a little harder than they expected. Maybe it's just maybe they just need a little more time to get a little more time in the room. You know, it takes a little while to sign a deal. Get everyone on board. Do you think they were maybe just they were too ahead of their time? Like you're about businesses that just came around too soon. It's like if you had just waited a little bit longer than that was the perfect time for it. Yeah. That's that's a possibility. But I don't it's over. It's over. It's over. So what do we do now? Because I don't want to stop talking about it. I don't know how much more we're going to have left. I mean, I think they canceled this event and it's looking like the lead cancellation will probably happen at some point before next season. We can talk about it then and then we can't lose Major League Baseball and live. I know. Oh, oh, live had just the perfect timing. Like they would have been they would have been huge. Hey, what are we doing? I got I don't know. I don't know what's going on these meetings. I'm not it's not again. Those me. You got to go. You got to go. If we go right now, if you want to fix live, call Hank Lockwood. Get out of it. Get out of here. Go. Find out. Maybe they need Jersey patches. Part of my take Jersey patches. Not part of my take Jersey patches. We need someone to do analytics on like the length of the show once live is done. The part of my take is on average like five minutes less. It takes a dip for sure. Yeah, we've lost a huge piece of this show. What it's like when Coach, I stepped away for a couple years. Can I ask something for you, Hank, to please do? I a little project. What if if live is done fully done? Could you maybe start a social media account that's like today and live history and we just can relive it. Maybe it's called reliving it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like today. Today, Bryson shot a minus four for the smashers. I can say that transaction. You buy the yard goats. Range goats. Come on. The range goats made a trade. Yeah. I would like to have something to just keep living. Right. It is sad. It is sad. Is there a hall famed for live? We should we should hope. Let's make the live hall. Let's make it right here. We'll absolutely host live. They all like I do is send us pretty much all their memorabilia. Yeah. Who do you think is his first ballot? Looking back over the story. It's got to be DJ in the history. Right. DJ. I feel like it was the first to go. Maybe we'll put Ian Poulter's pants in. Fill. Yeah. He never won on live though. He has never he never he didn't he didn't get it done. Yeah. He's old and horny. What are you want? That's a terrible combination to try to. I think the person in the hall famed there's been some stats I've seen where like there's guys that because of their team winning like they finished terribly in every event. But their team won and they like got to split the team person like they made you know $20 million in in three years without ever. Do you like competing? Yeah. That's the American. That's the Saudi dream. So I think that I think I think that would be where the hall famed starts. It's like who who made the most from live? Who's the greatest team? Yeah. In the history of live. It's got to be the four aces. Yeah. How many titles? I think they won the first year. They definitely want some team events. Yeah. It's four aces. I mean, they're the cornerstone of live. When you think of live, you think four aces. Definitely. Okay. Yeah. Sure. That's what I think of. Okay. My cool term is going to be love because Justin Herbert. Hot couple. Very hot couple. Zach. My hot seat this week is going to be Patriots fans because I'm seeing some stuff on Twitter that AJ Brown might just not have it. What? Exactly. I have a question. PFT. Oh, yeah. PFT comments are part of my take. The memes put you up for this. What's up? Did memes put you up for this? Did memes send you your hot seat? Shout out to memes. What are we talking about here? I was here in reports. AJ Brown maybe wasn't making separation off the line. Could be a bad report. Is that true, memes? We're just seeing videos. There's a lot of hot seat cool. Thorns that were taken before. Yeah. I did see AJ. I saw one clip of AJ Brown not getting a ball. Is it concern? No. He's job is to get the ball. That's a good point by Zach. He's a new player or new team new system. This is literally what training camp is for. I think the system is is still for him. Catch the ball. Get open. Yeah. He's also going up against Christian Gonzalez. It's it's it's good. That's like that's good. That's a good spend zone. I'm sure. I think there's no videos of Devonta Smith going up against Christian Gonzalez in the past week. Is there? Is there? Why would there be? It's not like they had a joint practice. Wait, they already had a joint practice. Oh, wait. See it. Oh, cheesy broken town. Oh, no. Thank God we didn't draft that guy. Oh, no. So happy. We got a manual Forbes. I mean, yeah, if you have to cover for that long, that happens everyone. That wasn't that long. Yeah. Wait. So AJ Brown is is practicing with the Eagles right now. That's good. That's correct. There has been really much that came out of it. But have there been July 23rd? What's today's date? They started last week. Have there been like handshakes? Have we seen AJ going up to Joe and Hertz? That's got to be from last year. Yeah, wait. I feel like teams just reported themselves. There's no way that they do. They do practice against each other. Maybe I'm wrong. People were talking about this clip. Oh, you saw a clip get resurfaced. I don't know. I'm pretty I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that that most teams when they start practice, they just practice. You joint after a couple of weeks. Yeah, you're right. Right. I could be wrong. It could be it could be a clip. He is definitely right. Yeah, 100%. Okay, Zach that clip still exists the clip does exist Clip does stand absolutely leaves them off the line. Oh, my cool thing this week is gonna be guys are into insects because gentlemen We got a new spider-man coming out. Oh, Peter Parker's back Let's go. Oh, who's playing them? What is his a Tom Holland right the handsome guy with the Nevermind the handsome guy the what I was gonna say sick sitting in for another without felt rude Why who's this in day is you know, it's in day is in day. Oh You're about to get like Gigi watch wife. I was about to get horny and I was an accident. Yeah, I was gonna be that was be rude of me. I shouldn't said that Okay, I like this about anything. I just had an intersection in her own accord in her own right You know what I mean? Yeah, she's not just Tom Holland's girlfriend. She's in day. Oh, that's on me Are you Tom Holland guy? No, but I'll be honest with you not huge on Tom Holland big on spider-man now Yeah, what who is your favorite spider-man a spider-man would probably have to be favorite spider-man all time is spider-man - so The guy who plays spider-man and spider-man - Toby. Toby. I think I will do it with me that's seen where Toby's holding back the train You can't beat that. Mm-hmm. Eagles and Patriots will have joined practice on August 19th and August 20th. Oh I can't wait to see the match up between Devonte Smith and Christian Gonzalez. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be locked in on how that goes 100% August 19 August 20th. Okay, because you know that we would have gotten some quotes from AJ by now. Yeah, now that was that was happening. Yeah Did very well have another puppy today Didn't see one He's gonna have a baby in his arms next He's gonna go up there with like a solvish armor. You're like a red cross bucket the next time just collecting donations Okay, good hot sea cool thrones everyone Let's get to are Mount Rushmore. 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We have an updated leader board after PFT that that that Sequence of events was quite something on on Monday show when you when you when you mocked you mocked Hank and and Zach and then I think you got 8% yeah, it's a all-time low I think really bad performers, but you know what it's always darkest before the dawn bounce back and one thing I know from this show you take you take your else on the show and Once you take a heavy L that's when you know you're about to take a massive. Yeah, you're about to come back Yeah, back to come back so come back so although I have I've noticed a lot of people being like because that one and admittedly Historically bad performance. Yeah, Syria was just derailed. It was bad. It was bad. What can I say really bad job in my part? I've noticed a lot of people that because that performance they assume I must be in the last place. I'm not you're not I'm in the second place. Yeah rush for season. You're not you're you're actually two points up. Yeah from last place Yes, so nowhere near last place. No, we're not even close not even close to close to last place 7.6. Yeah, that's that's actually impressive. It's pretty bad. Seeing mashed potatoes and I will say like gelato is a great. I've I've no regrets about eating gelato ever. Yeah Yeah, but yeah, but you're not serial Serial wasn't popping for you analytically I won. And a little that you did win. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, okay My rush more of things you hated as a kid, but love as an adult who's going first so pft then us Then Hank is that I thought we were third. Yeah, I fucked that up way to go me. I'm okay to go There's a clear one one in this draft And I'm going to take it. It is going to sleep. Mm-hmm Going to sleep hated as a kid bedtime was the absolute worst Now as an adult I love being able to take a nap. I love being able to just relax and Wait, is that all going to sleep? Yeah, going to bed going to bed. Yeah, going to sleep going to bed Don't just sleep is my pick. Okay Because when you're a kid you're you're worried about where you're gonna miss. Mm-hmm And as you're gone as an adult. It's like I can't wait to go to sleep. Mm-hmm So going to bed is your pet going to sleep going to sleep going to sleep So I'm all going to sleep going to sleep is the pick at night time If you're gonna take naps, I mean, I'd I mean naps are totally different than going to bed We haven't said whether what we're gonna do, but I'm just asking my pick is going to sleep Okay, yeah at nighttime take that as you wish. Okay It's all sleeps What are we supposed to we take I don't know I would really be naps Now we can't take nap. Yeah, we can we can definitely take this going to sleep I mean, what do you do when you take a nap? Well, you said you you don't want to take a you want to go to sleep So you don't missing stuff, but that's tonight. Yeah, yeah, you can miss you can miss stuff by taking a nap Naps and going to to bed are totally different. What what happens when you go to Sleeping nap. Yeah, sleep in a nap or not the same thing. What do you do when you take a nap nap? Yeah, you nap Close your eyes for a second. What happens? You see you close your eyes for a second. There's two There's there's two they're very different things. Yeah I don't know why this is a concert going to sleep. It's not a concert. No, but it's but they are different things We naps and sleeping are different things so you dig a nap you don't even fall asleep. Yeah, all right If you guys want to do naps, I have going to sleep as my pick okay, but that it naps are different than going to bed We all agree right Yeah, that's why I said going to sleep right But not going not my pick is not going to bed. My pick is going to sleep. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. What do you guys want to say? Got it. I'll take three now. We get it later. We can get it later. We can get it later. We should take it later Yeah, do we want to phrase it that way or yeah, yeah We hated it Eight looks good. What Hank what what? What Hank say something I like usually it's like that you have a I know you're early in the early in the I already had a pic PFT's like playing semantics of like I'm absent sleep. I know you can take it. You can take naps I said my pick is going to sleep All right, you want to do that memes set. I like that taste of alcohol taste of alcohol. Okay, not good It's I mean very bad as a kid. Oh, I mean when you're 15's like teenage years didn't know What the first time you have alcohol. It's bad I would say I would say maybe the the second or third time you start talking about like kids I can see how close to we I don't I don't I don't promote underage drink. I'm not talking about teenagers. I'm talking about kids. Yeah, we don't promote it I know we don't I'm not promoting I'm just saying no All right We're we're gonna go with hanging out with your parents Okay, yeah, when you were a kid it felt like you're in trouble and then obviously, you know you turn to adult You're probably not living near them. We actually get to spend time with them look forward to it. Yeah, yeah So that's a sweet pick. What do you think about three? What about you think we do two? Yeah I think three I Two you whatever you want I think I mean you're early in the draft You don't want to have your one's good. You already have your pick. You're one's good Go three Yeah, we're gonna go with alone time. Okay, okay We had it. Yeah, we had it as well. Yeah, we had it. Yeah I like eat a lot Yeah, no, okay, well then what do you what do you want? I like 10 We just went with one though, but that's the same thing. It's complete. What do you mean? It's all right? All right? All right What do you think memes memes chime in here memes eight is you got to explain eight? Oh, no I don't think you have to explain eight. I don't think I've just played eight at all. Okay, I think go for it and wait later Yeah, we've so many picks. We're gonna talk this through. Let's talk this through. Oh, wait. Go eight It's not it's no longer early in the draft. So we don't but we can also go six Six is good six is good. I think for it yet Four 14 is what other than I was thinking Stop saying numbers. I know I should be so mad at you guys for doing this. We have too many we might have too many picks Let's go six. Let's go six. Okay, and do we say that word or do we say the word that got you in trouble? I'm not saying you you're saying this okay Girls Okay, when you're a kid when you're a kid. We're not we're not talking about teenagers when you're a kid Yeah, girls are like you and now as an adult you love you love girls Yeah, yeah, okay, exactly max actually like that now that you're growing up. You love girls. Mm-hmm Chicks The girl is it girls or is it checks it could be chicks or women is it girl women so when you're a kid you hated women Yeah, you know you know exactly what we're saying girls. Well, what do you want on the graph? Yeah, Max do you help us please? You're on an island on this one. Don't say island for girls The opposite sex I need help Max. You're the one who I needed help last year to have a game. We weren't on the same team Yeah, I am now participating in this conversation get in the fight dude chicks chicks chicks so the answer is chicks chicks Okay, Max Max looks like he doesn't want that. No, that is what we wrote down Guys guard Max with the what what's the G word girls? Oh, those the P word Like Big Hat said girls and he cringed yeah, all right, so chicks we'll go with chicks chicks. Okay um So I got two back to back I'm gonna go coffee As a kid way too better. You don't understand why adults drink it and then you become an adult and you're like I get it It's good good good one. I get it. I for most people I think you you get You enjoy the effects of it first and then you learn to like the taste To go along with the effects and then sooner or later you're addicted to it Um my next pick Fuck it Yeah, fuck it Fuck it getting spanked Okay, that's a very specific one spankings as a kid hate him As an adult you pay good you pay good money for it. Okay, you can pay a really good money. Okay Get spanked for a while. See what you love get spanked. Well, I yeah, well you love getting spanked not me necessarily you love getting spanked You're saying you love getting spanked or not rush more thick. Yeah spank. Yeah, spanked getting spanked I think it's gonna. I think that's I think it's gonna be good. Piss on our list. Okay Ha ha ha ha. Oh man All right, what do oh max you you're you're down. You're doom and gloom right now. Let's let's pick this up Yeah So so pick it up. I am I'm going I'm gonna pick it up right here. Go with it. Go with it. Okay. I think it's a good pick Uh being a kid When you're a kid you hate when people treat you like a kid when you're adult you're like fuck I wish I was a kid again You lose your youth when youth is wasted on the youth is that what it is? Yeah, I think that's the saying being a kid Yeah, you look back you're like man that was awesome. You had no worries. You had nothing But when you're a kid you're just like I want to grow up. I want to grow up. I want to be a big boy. I want to grow up sucks, right? Uh, we are gonna go with cutting the grass. Mm-hmm. Yeah, could pick I had that Was a chore when you were a kid as a adult. It's very peaceful experience experience understand completely why you know Dad's love it. They get obsessed with it something to do And you feel good after and it smells good It's almost like healthy competition you go out you could go against the neighbor Yeah, you know how to earlier next day. Yeah. Yep. Yep Then uh fourth pick we're gonna take naps nice Good pick and pick good pick We were gonna take it in naps. I mean, it's it's a great pick. Mm-hmm. Now time sucked as a kid. It's awesome as an adult Okay, guys, I like 14 14 is good What about four Four or 14 I like four so some so similar. Okay. All right. All right. All right showers I hated showers the kid hated it Taking out showers the best as an adult. Mm-hmm. A long time showers I had my kids fucking eight shower time I never was dislike showers. I guarantee you if you ask your parents As a kid. Oh, yeah, real kid. Well, that's what we're doing baths. Yeah, I mean that it's I mean you wanted to say bat time I mean maxiola when it still takes baths. Baths are great. It does be yeah Baths are the best. Did you hate bathing as bathing? We'll say bathing so cover everything bathing bathing bathing bathing But I hated that as a kid you definitely hated it as a kid I don't know. I feel like even baths You ask your parents. I guarantee you ask your Like ask your brother as a kid kids doesn't he like yeah, yeah, no, I see that. No, I see that. It's a it's a it's a war But it's a yeah, you get all the action figures in there It's a imagination going still worth imagination. It's probably like Bath 90% of my week is like the negotiations and then active bathing with Like trying to get the kids to do it Okay, last pick pft Let me go with watching golf on TV It was the most boring sport to watch as a kid. I don't even remember doing it as a kid. Yeah, I never wanted to watch it If it was on not interested as an adult really enjoyed Golf if golf was my one one just playing. I hated playing golf when I was young. Yeah, I thought it was so boring Yeah, but now it's like my favorite thing to do. Yeah Okay, good-bye rush more little contentious like it like a little get rid of the Hank's Kumbaya mandate um What else we have asparagus? You love asparagus vegetables in general. I like it. I like asparagus. Yeah, it's alright You grill it a little balsamic. We did the two that we we threw out vegetables in reading, but we're like we can't get behind that Yeah, we just couldn't get behind it. I like it. Yeah, we're only gonna do the things we love you can make asparagus good I it's become one of my favorite vegetables. What do you think about a well-balanced meal? Yeah, yeah, because like when your kid you just wanted to eat, you know Fast food and burgers or whatever pizza. Well, I had we had one of the picks and this I don't know what you guys versus keep pizza crust Pizza crust pizza crusts the kids like you did like crust on air crust on peanut butter and jelly and stuff love crust I was stealing the pizza crust off the pies as a kid really yeah, but how many leftover pizza crusts were there? No, I'm going to the pie and just perimeter check and the whole thing Like the next guy's going to a slice no crust on the pie Like before it goes so you were eating. Oh, you said I was robbing it out the box. Yeah, but you know That's the thing that kids don't eat the pizza they eat the pizza don't eat the crust. Yeah, yes But Zach you were very important for the ecosystem. Yeah, it was like yeah a lot of people don't like the crust Similar to the parents one siblings Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you get older and you're like oh shit. That was we did a lot of fighting. Yeah, a lot of fighting. We're about documentaries That's a good one hated hated watching. They're boring as a kid. Yeah No, I like what we said scary. Yeah, I don't remember too national geographic. I also don't remember talking about us being around Just prevalent when we're kids Still feel like it happens a lot. No, there were there were lots of documentaries. There's a lot more Yeah, there's just more movies now in general Oh, some of the other things thinking about my keep brushing your teeth. I like to brush my teeth at the end of the night my kids don't um Leaving early from shit That's great. It's an adult. That's a good one sucks as a kid Car rides love driving in the car hated as a kid hate one spicy food Can't get behind it. Yeah, you still hate it. What about not being hung over? I guess then bud. You were a kid you hated not being over Which we do it. Yeah, you were like no, it wasn't fun. You weren't having fun I was thinking like teenager, but yeah waking up in the morning without a hangover I'm not gonna endorse underage drinking. Yeah. There you go Oh, Zach had tequila tequila go to the bathroom Like I always have to tell my kids like go to the bathroom go to the bathroom go to the bathroom now It's like I look like I'll have taken a nice fat piss Sitting on the toilet for a while going bathrooms awesome. I like Hank kind of touched on it with mowing the lawn but chores just chores in general If you get get a good household project that you're working on that can be fun as an adult Make a trip to the hardware store. That's fun. Actually, that could be its own thing Is it a hard work going to the hardware store hated that as a kid as an adult. It's kind of the best. We also had wearing a coat As a kid never want to wear coat never ever wanted to wear a coat Uh getting a haircut Yeah That's a good. Yeah, that's a good one Yeah, although my kids like getting a haircut so you get the lollipop So they they that's they've they've really Pavlov dog that thing and Chovies Still don't like him big hats said your siblings. Yeah, I said that. Yeah, I'd rather mention. Yeah Uh, I think that's everything. Oh, I I had This one's would have been hard to explain but the dark when you were a kid you were so scared of the dark Now it's like give me a room with blackout shades like no light and I'm fucking love it You know Like a real real dark bedroom is the best Zach had one which kind of counteracts our previous discussion to the show you want to say it Say I'm not sure which one we're talking about Folding clothes. Oh, yeah folding clothes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I didn't see a single folded black to you. Those were wanted to trash. Yeah, but you Famously say those were fold fold your clothes. You just get new ones those were folded before I fold it when you get through them to the center of the room to throw them away Yeah, yeah, but you often throw away your shirts just it like sometimes you gotta get rid of them. Yeah babysitters too Is adult I love babysitters Night out when you were a kid you're just like I'll fuck I said you had like a mean babysitter what said people uh who think you're dumb. Yeah, which We tried to talk that through, but why do you love the people think you're dumb now? Less expectations. They true. No, true. Like we're not going to have dumb guy do it. True. Not being able to spell, Zach. That would love it. Well, no, you still just get destroyed for that. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Okay, good not rush more. Let's let's get to our interviews. We have coach Luke fickle. Then Lincoln Riley, then Greg Siano. Before we get to Luke fickle is brought to you by our great friends over at EA Sports. From campus legend to NFL superstar, make your rise across the MVP bundle. It includes the deluxe edition of both games. Plus, you get bundle exclusive rewards. Dominate and Madden NFL 27. You get 4,600 Madden points and one ultimate team EVO player item. 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So there was an article yesterday that I actually think was great because it talked about the first three years coaching the badgers and it not going great. But you doubling down and being like, hey, I'm not leaving this place. So I had a question right off the bat from that. There was a moment. Why did I not expect that? Yeah, well, listen, I know you have a relationship with you. I care a lot about the badgers. But there was a moment in the article where it's basically like, hey, things are going bad. And you were, you were given a choice. Like, hey, either you can, you can find a way out of this. Like, you know, go get another job or you can double down and, and, and turn this thing around. And you spend a night thinking about it. And I want to ask you about that night and like, what went through your head of, hey, what are we going to do in the future? What's this going to look like? Well, I think it was obviously really well done in a way that like, look, don't just ask you that. Like, if you ask me that question right now, it would be really easy just to say, oh yeah, hell yeah, I'm, I'm not ballin. But when done things the right way, like, give you some time, like go, go think about it. Don't give me your knee jerk reaction. Let me know what it is that you're really thinking. And so that's what, you know, I did. I said, hey, I'm going home. I'm really going to think about this. Like, obviously in the moment, like, there's no way you're walking. I don't give a crap what the situation is. But when you really get to sit down and think about it, like, okay, where are we going? How are we going to do this? And so all those thoughts went through your head to say, okay, now I'm like, look, I got a family like, let's, let's be honest with ourselves about where this thing is headed. And, and more than anything, it was just like sitting there just right over and over and inside your head. It's like, how, you know what this is going to take? You know what this has to look like. And you know, the enormous amount of, you know, stress and time and things. And are you willing to really say you want to do that? And so that's basically what I did that whole night is just to make sure deep down inside of my head and my heart that knowing that there's a lot of people that are counting on you, but like, you've got to be all in to say, look, whatever it takes, I got to be willing to do my family's got to be willing to sacrifice as well. And we all got to be in this together. Yeah, because it's, it's, it's, I think it's a little rare where it's like, you, you basically said to yourself, hey, I know that I'm going into hot seat. Like, I'm, I'm walking into a fourth year that the temperature's hot. The fan bases is anxious to get back on track. And I'm up for the fight. And that, I, I mean, I give you credit for that. Like, a lot of guys probably I, I personally would have gotten the fuck out of there. Well, I might say it later today at some point in time out about that way, but I'd like to at times, I do think that today's world, today's day and age, like when, when, you know, when met with some of these situations and where college football is, not just players, but even coaches, when there's other opportunities and other avenues, some would tell you like, if you had this guy in your ear that you'd call an agent, be like, hey, we would really have a better opportunity if we would just kind of take this little avenue of something else that we could start and like, you don't know what's best for me. You don't know what's best for my family. You don't know what's best for this program. And, and to me, that's where sometimes you got to quit listening to everybody outside and just kind of dive into yourself to say, hey, what am I willing to do and what are we willing to do? Yeah. Are you a list guy? Do you just down to pros and cons? How'd that go? In my head. I don't know that I literally wrote down like, I knew damn well what it was going to take. I knew damn well what you had to be committed to. And to say, hey, I need to write down a pro and a kind of like, that's what probably some agent or maybe my parents or somebody would say, hey, I heard that you could kind of think about this and take a, you know, an escape ride. Like, no, there's one way to do something and it's all in. Yeah, I heard that you did something very, very smart to start things off here. I think you have fullbacks now, right? Yeah, we did. I was personally, I'm just a fan of the fullback position. We give out the low-man trophy every year to the nation's top fullback. I was disappointed that Wisconsin was not going to have a fullback. And so I know you've got a couple fullbacks on the roster now for the first time, right? You've never had a fullback. Yeah, I think when we first came in, there were some guys that you're trying to figure out how to list them, but legitimately listed as a fullback inert. Yeah, it's not just us as you probably are to it takes a rare breed that wants to be listed as a fullback. I don't know if you've gone around college, but how many guys out there actually want to be listed as a fullback, but we actually have some that want to be listed as a fullback. And those are the kind of guys that you want playing fullback. Yeah, it's interesting. You can have you can have age backs, you can have hybrid tight-in fullbacks, but at the end of the day, they want to catch passes and they want to get eventually paid like a wide receiver. They ever make it to the NFL. We're touchdowns. Exactly, but you have a fullback that wants to be listed as a fullback. I think that's a great start for Wisconsin football. And that's something that like I don't know if you've weighed the pros and cons of that as you've been kind of like evolving as a head coach of what the tradition of Wisconsin football has always been versus the system that you like to run. And what you're known for as a coach and what your strengths are. But what are some of the ways that you've kind of seen the differences between those two things and how you've tried to merge them? Well, it still comes down to players. And so to me, there's putting things into buckets and what gives you the best opportunity to be successful? Like, you know, we heard for, you know, first year or so, like, hey, when it's short years, how can you not go under center? Well, if you don't go under center, it's hard to go under center. So I think that's a part of the evolution of saying, look, in particular in this league, just like you see in the next level in the NFL, like if you can't do it all, meaning from a quarterback position, if you can't get under center, if you can't get in the gun, if you can't line up in an eye formation, if you can't do that, then you, you aren't as hard to prepare for as well. And so we all know like, okay, so we have a fullback listed. How many reps or how many plays will we have in a game with a fullback in there? I can't tell you that for sure, as we get into camp and seeing how those guys perform and what are the strengths and weaknesses of what that position brings. We'll figure that out, but nonetheless, people are going to have to prepare for whether it's two to 10 to 12 plays a game of someone that's going to be lined up in some version of an eye backs and it's going to have some type of a lead block. I don't know if they've even called, I don't even know if football, you're allowed to call it an ISO anymore. I think that might be right. Outlawed based on, you know, health and safety nowadays. What are their names? What are your fullbacks names? I'll tell you how the JNZ is one here from that's a good outside. It's a good fullback name, yeah. Converted linebacker moved over how much you need. Tyler Janze. Tyler Janze. Yeah, and a linebacker into a fullback. By the way, you say the fourth and one not under center. People were upset about that. I'm honest people like the there are certain losses that I can stomach like, you know, there's say, you know, and this is not saying that we can't get to this level, but like, Ohio State has put a lot of money into it. They're a really good team. We lose to Ohio State. It's like, hey, that happens when we get stuffed on fourth and one against USC going shotgun. That's what I'm like, I can't do this. So that's what we got to fix. We got to just pound the ball. I believe me. There's all different ways. And I think that was a part of the evolution of saying, look, if you want to be successful in this league in particular, you have to be able to do it all. And that's not to say that you can't you have to play in the gun. You have to be all plan or center your whole time. The hard part is if you don't have that versatility, which we didn't that when in those critical moments, it's not that look I'm can't honestly tell you right now is a former nose guard like there's nothing I like more than short yardage and and to pound the ball and to hand the ball off. But if you're not comfortable with taking a snap on the most critical time of the game underneath center, which we almost gave up a game, you know, X amount of years ago at Cincinnati when the game was over and we were on the our own goal line. We just, you know, got on fourth now. I'd flip the ball ball with 30 seconds ago. We took a snap from under center and fumbled the snap because we weren't used to taking snaps out of the center. Right. So it wasn't just that we didn't do it on short yards. It was that, you know what, we were behind a little bit that we didn't have it in the system to make sure no matter what our quarterbacks can do it all. And we have to make people prepare for everything. So we have evolved in that way. And it's not just short yardage. But I think there's a lot of things that, you know, we had to evolve through. Yeah. So last year obviously didn't go great, but you I talk about that moment where you sit down and you're like, hey, I'm not running from this. I'm going to fix this. After that, we do have two huge wins against Washington Illinois. Was that part of it where it's like the guys could feel, hey, I'm not, I'm not running from this. Let's fix this together. And especially the defense. The defense felt like it finally became a loop fickle defense. So there's, there's some things that happened in that in those moments. And I'll even talk about a little bit. And you know, today in a lot of these situations like people from outside the program I don't know that they really see some of the changes that happened and to be honest with you I had to do with leadership more than anything at all, and you know There was a part of us that was always holding on to this hey the quarterbacks gonna be back the quarterbacks gonna be back Yeah, when there was a point in time at that you know moment when hey look we're all in in this and this is the route We've got to be able to go that we finally said like look we're not waiting on that anymore We need to move forward with the things that we need to be able to do to be successful And what started to happen was we had a youth movement to be honest with you We had some younger dudes that got opportunities to play went in there and created a different energy and a different leadership That really started to kind of grow within our entire system And like I said you can talk about those two games people outside of the program Don't really know what kind of growth happened in the last nine months and it started to probably about that time where we said look We're out and we're moving forward on the things that we got to be able to do and a lot of that had to do with some of these younger guys that look had an opportunity to get in there Led from the way that they do things and have created some some real roots and stability I think within our entire program and a start with the leadership and I think the washing game specifically I think you kind of earned a little of your badger pinstripes so to speak because I did we do we complete one pass was it I think a punter. Yeah punter had the most bad components. He had the lead he was leading again It's like damn that's that's how you win a football game He just throw it back a hundred years and you pound the rocket play defense that we did and that's and that's where out some of that stuff started to grow But it was it was people would say just the game We see the results of what grew but the what really grew was the youth and the leadership and those moments when people started to see The Mason Post and the Cooper Catalanos and even the Matt Young who's with us These guys started to grow and take over from you know What some would have said were the leaders of your team from the quarterback to maybe some older offense Of line guys and and there was a takeover that that really grew up within the program Yeah, are you gonna have coach Gordon back again this year if we can getting back over here It's a little bit busier than he was a couple years ago, but I know where ball starts to roll like there's nothing He loves more than to get off probably that golf course that I see him on so often and get back into some some fall camps Now that we're on campus the whole he's bringing him up to Madison I mean he loves the campus. He loved being there. I think you noticed it I've told this store in the show so I want to hear your perspective But it was funny because we went out to practice and you guys gave us a play sheet and all of a sudden I'm looking we're on the sideline and I look up and I'm like where's coach Gruden? He's basically in the huddle. He was like standing listening to like he had gone all he had drifted all the way onto the field He just loves football. Yeah, and I don't know I didn't know him personally I was I had a little bit of a connection being where he's from and going to the University of Dayton and then he actually coached my brother-in-law In the NFL and so there was this little connection of some sorts that he was this quarterback and things like that So I had followed him from afar had communicated with him a little bit and I don't know that I expected him to be in the huddle I think he was one step away from making the calls Maybe changing the protections that what he probably really wanted to do But I wish you guys would I wish we had a little more time to make this brain even afterwards because I know his mind and the way that which it works And I would have loved to you know got some insight from as well. Yeah, how does how does Colton Joseph look? So they in and this is not making excuses because I'm a realistic badger fan. It hasn't gone great the last couple of years We want to get back to winning But there is context in the fact that we've had some pretty bad injury luck when it comes to quarterback and losing them Pretty early in the season every single year. Yeah. Yeah, it's been it's been Tough obviously to get through but the unique thing is is what we haven't had is is a room at the quarterback room that you would say look It's happened before to the Badgers, right? Whatever year they you know guy gets hurt a quarterback in particular and the next guy goes in and and Forch good fortune for them they handed it off to Ron Dane or you know Melvin Gordon or Monty ball and the quarterback Maybe didn't have as big a role in some of those situations Just didn't have the depth in that room. So when we have those injuries I don't know that we could save the next guy was gonna be in there and rate a role and Colton has done a great job But the uniqueness to the the quarterback room is where we feel really good about where we are because look We're not looking for injuries. It's happened But that room is a completely different room now. We've got Colton who obviously is the leader We've got Duce Adams who is right behind him We've got Ryan Hopkins who's a who's a true freshman kid that's nipping at their heels along with you know Some guys that have started four five six games already in the big ten. There's a room that you know has created a great Competition which has continued to make everybody better that if by chance, you know, you have a guy that twists an ankle breaks a shoe string We've got some guys it they don't quite know what Wally Pip is, but you got to be careful because there's some guys who can go in there and and take off Really really well. Yeah, we talked to coach Lane Kiffin. We were down at LSU a couple months ago He was telling us about the SEC that before after the hot yoga. That was right out. It was after you couldn't speak very well burnt down You didn't look great Wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you mean we didn't look great? What do you mean by that? I didn't mean the your body at all I just met like you look a lot sure sunglasses Yeah, but correct I was worried about it. He's right on both. Yeah Physically or like what we our bodies looked bad and we felt bad mentally bad Spiritually bad cross the board just bad just just paying everywhere But we were talking about the SEC coaches group chat that they have apparently they've got two group chats one from the commissioner Well, they they you know give out official instructions to all the coaches and then the other which is more the horseplay group chat That I feel like Lane Kiffin starts and he you know, he's probably the main poster in that I'm curious do you have a big 10 coaches group chat? I think we do in general Just for information. I don't know that there's a whole hell of a lot of group chatting going on I actually just apologize to Brett Beelman for you know He's kind of the lead of it because he's on the a fca and he does all the rules committees and you know He sends out the updates and everybody gives him a little something back like how he appreciate all your work I'm like hey, I don't ever respond in the damn group chat. Oh you got it. Just in case you're wondering Yeah, start sending memes. You got to get you got to get active. You got to let people know you're there Yeah, I guess I mean, I don't know I guess when you're looking for new friends Maybe that's the way to go about it. We get some we get some some files on on Belima and Shiano some old pictures of them That you might want to just like repost in there. Just you know, you don't have to add any commentary It's just like hey, here's here's I don't know if I get a ghost number in there Or something. Yeah, we just wear in that shirt Yeah, you got that would add some color of some life to our group chat because I was looking through the list of coaches We're coming over here for meaty day and there's not a lot of nonsense in the big 10 I would say it's like the most no nonsense a group of coaches, but really really good coaches Yeah, so like which ones if you're looking out across the landscape the league Which ones do you look at and you you know you you admire you have respect for like you've been in this game a long time Is there is there a guy in the league that you look at and you say that's how I want to run a program Well, unfortunately they beat us the last three years and coach fair and sit down at Iowa But I've from the time when I first got into coaching Had always studied and a lot of their defensive stuff, but just have always admired the way that which they've gone about the things That they've done the consistency that he has had and they've had there's no doubt look I grew up as an Iowa fan now. I grew up as an Iowa wrestling fan You know, so there was a piece of me that like when I was a little kid that ran that stadium You know when I was out at the national wrestling tournament like the sixth grade watching the NCA wrestling tournament there That there was a piece that I always kind of admired about you know what it is that they had done from the wrestling side So I'd always followed him and what they had done from the football side as well. Yeah, yeah, do you do you have any relationship with Ryan Day? Not much. I mean there you know, obviously there's a connection just with some of the things I mean yeah from from people that are on their staff to you know family that live around there, but You know what it it and maybe it's just me, but with it's really tough in our landscape of college football I don't know how the SEC guys do it with a joke Maybe they all work together at one point in time, but to have much of a connection with each other because with a lack of rules It makes a difficult the SEC is different because it's it's like everyone Was saved by Nick Sabin at some point Yeah, I mean they all they all basically went to Alabama when they then when they were on the out So I guess my follow up question Ryan Day doesn't make sense It's like did you did you see the picture of him with the nipple ring that wasn't real But we like was that from you guys? Joe I don't I don't know where it can somebody to the Photoshop. I If I think I thought it was real I thought it was real Kind of seems like a nipple ring guy. That's not like a listen everyone should have their own Yeah, right. Live and let live, but yeah, nipple ring guy for sure. I don't know that I would have Probably best off that I don't see that picture. Yeah, it's like Dan Lenning Yeah, you should take a look at it. I thought it was real. I said if you had said like that was from a label or something I could see that there's nipple ring guys out there Yeah, it was very clearly Photoshop. We want that on the record. Yeah, for a moment there. The world was like That's a big-time nipple We have undershirts nowadays. Yeah, I mean, that's true. Oh speaking of what we're wearing what are we doing with the vest? Because the vest when you cover up the vest we started That's my daughter she as I get back from from this stuff that she's back home now for a little bit and she kind of maybe we'll give me some suggestions This is a real conversation in like the Badger fan base of like the vest. Well, maybe I need to think I had not thought I'm a whole lot about it Here's the thing. I think I think when it's not going well The vest looks fucking ridiculous Okay, but when it's going well, it can work, but so I think it's like maybe something something you just keep on the sideline until we start stacking some wins and then you can maybe bring it back out. But you know, being trying to be as consistent as you can possibly be to say that I would switch up not saying I don't do it to that button to say, Hey, well, we start when that I'll throw something back on like whatever we go with, we're going to go. Well, that was a motivate the guys be like, Hey, guys, if you win two games a row, I think to just go with the nipple ring, yeah, that also is me being nice. I really just want you to get rid of the best get rid of the best, you know, just get rid of the best and play. I don't see you as a guy that beats around the bush, I don't know why you just didn't frickin come out just say get rid of the frickin best, just get rid of the best and then we win games. When was the last time you wrestled someone? Oh, God. That's a good question. Thank you. Actually, I don't, I don't want to get into, I was doing it in the, I was wrestling in the pool with my kids the other day. Okay. And they're getting to the age now where they're 19 and I finally realized like, holy shit. They have some strength. Yeah. Can't do this anymore. I always thought, yeah, look, if you got wrestling powers, it overs, it supersedes damn near anything else. And there's a point in time when I'm not sure that that supersedes it. So, I had some realization about four or five days ago that holy shit, 50 is coming fast in them. It's upon me. And the youth is a hell of a lot further along. That's when you guys start cheating. Why? No, no, no, no. No, let me just tell you now. That's what I mean by cheating, like five on two at least four or five times was the only saving grace I had. I'm not sure you know what five on two is. No. No, I'm just talking about yours. Yeah, yeah. No. That's a complete grip of the balls. Okay. There we go. Five on two. Now I get it. That's a full grip of nuts. That makes sense. And that was about the only way that I was. I was like, how many people in your family were wrestling in the pool for five on two? All right. Now that makes sense. No, no. Okay. Well, you could still take another man down. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's something that you don't lose. No, you don't. But like the strength of things you start to recognize, like after about 15 minutes of this pool basketball wrestling, like there was I didn't look quite as bad as you guys did after that hot yoga. So I don't know how long that was. How long have you time since you watched this hot yoga video? No. Was there a video? Because I would not have watched it. There was a video. The video was tough. The video was very tough. It was very tough. I just feel jeopardy over time. I feel bad for all the people in the room. Because it was like, we just showed up to their routine hot yoga and we were just absolute nothings on the on the back line. Is Wisconsin a big hot yoga state? Would you say that there's a lot of people that do yoga? I don't know that I would say that. There it is. There's everywhere. But no, I don't know. I would say that. Yeah. Have you thought about how important the opening game is? Not just for Wisconsin but for America? I don't know if I thought about it for America. That's a lot. Yeah, for America because I feel like if you don't beat Notre Dame, they're probably going to go undefeated. They'll probably end up being the one seed and Big Cat's got a lot on the line too made a bet with Larry Fitzgerald in regards to that game. But playing at Lambo Field should be pretty fun. What do you expect? It's going to be a home environment I would think. There's probably a lot of Notre Dame stuff. It's a home game for them, but I don't know. Is it really? Yeah. You guys would probably have a better idea when they did this. So for some other years ago, the new soldier field was the first game. Was it pretty neutral? It was. It was about 50/50. I was at that game and then it was delayed like a couple times. Because I think COVID and everything. Oh, yeah. This one, I mean, Notre Dame travels and it's not far travel for them. That's right. So it will be. It will be a problem. I'd be curious to see what the environment, I would imagine it would be pretty balanced 50/50. But you know how it goes, right? I mean, the success makes it a hell of a lot louder. Like we've been there at that stadium before with maybe a quarter of the people and heard them really well. Yeah. What's the rhythm in terms of getting ready and game planning for that game? Since you have so long to prepare for it, I've always wondered about like week zero, week one, do coaches spend the off season trying to do for that game? We do. We do. And I think it's a unique situation. Obviously a lot of times what we have done in the past is you open up probably not with a game like this. So your first game or two is, you know, we don't get pre-seasons. But sometimes it's opening up with, you know, somebody outside of a major conference. When you open up like this, I think that it does take a different toll as you go into fall camp. So we will have to be a little bit different, not that you can't start too soon. And that's not that there isn't this idea of, hey, we're training for. But if you start working like in a bowl game of some sorts, you know, two and a half weeks beforehand on the same team, you can get bored. And the last thing we want to be able to do is to get bored. So we've got a lot of growth that we have to do through fall camp, but it'll definitely be a little bit different as we get to that two weeks out that we'll, you know, we know we got to be able to play really, really well to start the season. Yeah. When you bring in so many transfers, I think we would have 33 transfers this year, somewhere right around there. So what is, like, is there a specific plan of like, how do we get these guys to buy into a certain way? You have a bunch of guys who haven't been, because it's so different than it was 10 years ago. It is. And I would tell you this that like every year, I would tell you, in every other team, like when you bring guys in, because everybody's going to bring guys in the transfer portal. So whether it's five guys or it's 30 guys like us, I think the uniqueness is, what do you bring them in for? Well, we know you're bringing them in to play, but there's a difference, right? I mean, in the years past, we had maybe brought in one or two guys, three guys, the most that you said, hey, these guys were envisioning as starters. So you want somebody that was just kind of coming in to be a part of what it is you're doing. Maybe they're coming from a smaller division. Maybe they've, you know, not that everybody doesn't expect to start. The unique thing this year is we're bringing in, you know, as we went out there. We were bringing guys like, look, we need like eight to 10 possible starters, which is a unique situation. But the thing that gave us an opportunity to be able to do this outside of the investment was these roots that really started growing as we talked about about nine months ago in that midway through the season where this youth, you know, really took over. And so for me and for us, not worrying about bringing in a guy that's been a two year starter from Missouri is how's he really going to fit? Is he going to buy in and believe in the things that we're doing when he hasn't been able to see the success on the field? We didn't have to worry about that because of the leadership that we hadn't had in the first three years. There's a hell of a lot different. Yeah. And I also saw in that article, you know, it talked about how maybe a recommitment to in-state recruiting because, you know, the, I'm paraphrasing, I don't think I'm getting the quote exactly right. But Barry Alvarez, when he took over the program, basically said there's a lot of fat people in Wisconsin. Let's keep him here. And let's let him block a running back. But like, is that something that you said, hey, I tried to do it a little bit different when I got here. Now I got to realize, hey, there is a, there is a history to this program that has worked through the years and use that to my advantage instead of trying to do something different. So the easy thing to say is yes, the tougher thing to say is there's been slight changes over the landscape of even just three years of what the philosophy continues to grow to be in recruiting. Just the landscape has changed. I can honestly tell you from the time we walked in the door, it was, we have to do our best job in the state. Now, what you have to determine is how many of these guys within the state do you believe have the potential to win in a league that's gone to 18 teams, to win in a league that's won the last three national titles. And so some of that, like I said, we had to grow as well as recognizing what can and will be successful as we grow. And again, we have wanted to recruit the state. We haven't done as good a job in the first three years with losing a few guys that went to the other places. So it wasn't like, hey, we're going to wholesale change what we're doing. But we have to do a hell of a lot better job. And so there's a part of those things getting on guys earlier. And I think the other parts, it's a really good year in the state in particular with some big guys too, that like you said, Coach Alvarez, that they're big guys, or would you say fat guys? Fat guys, a lot of fat people with Wisconsin's keepin' in state. Well, she's cursed. But there's some big guys in the state that we know through time and development can be what we need to win this league. And so there's been a little bit of both. It's not just a wholesale change. It's a great year. There's some investment in things that really help you in the recruiting side of things. But also the idea that these guys within the state have seen some of this growth that I don't know that everybody else has seen. Yeah. Do you take any pride in the conference winning the past three national championships? Because a lot of fans sometimes will be like, yeah, big ten best conference in the league. But if they have a down year for their team that they root for, you know, they like to talk about how good the other schools are. Do you take anything like that across the world? There's no doubt. I mean, like, look, I grew up as a big ten guy. I grew up in big ten country. And so I take incredible pride in that. Now, you can hide behind that because a lot of people use that again and say, oh, yeah, you got to ride the coattails and all these other sunbitches that have won. But the truth of the matter is, look, this is who we are. This is what we compete with, okay, and if we're going to win, we might as well win as a conference. Now, it doesn't mean I'm happy that somebody else is won, okay, because that's just not the way I'm built. But there's a part of this, damn right, we want this conference to continue to dominate like it has. And we also know that a lot of us got to hold up our ends in parts of this, too, because the one thing that we don't have, and I'm just going to point it out, is we have it. We don't think we have the balance that maybe they've had that they're claiming they have more in the SEC. And I think that that's where you're going to see some of this growth, even from us and from this league, become even better. Yeah. All right. Coach, this has been awesome. I have one last question. It's going to be Zach's question. I appreciate your time today. I did see from time to time you do get into a little bit of bow fishing and I was wondering if it's ever crossed your mind like maybe take some of that guys out for like a team building or team chemistry exercise. - Yeah, we actually, we tried to do that. We were gonna take the big guys out there. there, bow fishing. So you know, if you've ever done it, there's obviously some you need like you have to time it up pretty well. So this past year when we went it was about 32 degrees that night and we didn't have a bunch of guys that were that were wanting to go out there and bow fish. We actually had somebody fall in the water that night as well. But we have we've brought it up and we're we tried to get some of our big guys to go out there and do that. Is that you bow fish? I do not I do have one more bow fish fishing question that's okay. Do you ever done bow fishing? No. Oh, if you like that I'm not a big I would bow fish a hell of a lot all the time more than I would ever see it. I stink, but it's a hell of a lot more. As a work is when you're aiming at the fish. Yeah, it's different, right? It's not the fish isn't where you see it. Yeah, it's a refract. I mean, like you got to hit and hope. Yeah, it's kind of like my golf game. Yeah, but you you would think that the fish fish aren't like you're just gonna pull up on them and they're just like no no, no, they're asked they're moving now. I mean, yeah, it's yeah, it's both the most dangerous game. All right, go ahead. That species you have in a good eye would say I was curious about your loadout. Are you going to recur bill or compound? Now you're really good. I have no idea what this is what says to people. So he doesn't do the things, but he just like yeah, I have he learns all about it. Yeah, I have no idea what the hell that means is I'm not a hunter. Like he doesn't golf, but he could tell you what shaft you need on your driver. I did see you were going to compound in your most recent trip. So I'm going to check out is the recurve. I'm just going to throw it out there for you. What was the difference, Zach? It did like distribution of like like load management. So the way you pull back. I can't even shoot that you let alone know the distribution. It's never been both fish. It looks like great. I'm left handed. Is that matter? Because I don't know that they had a left handed bow. Is that matter? Great question. Not sure. Oh, you don't know. I'm stuck to you. I eat 100 per day. Which one did the guy from the Odyssey have? Haven't seen the Odyssey, but I can double check. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's 35 44 pound. Yeah. It's fun. And then you were I saw you were also you're picking up your water skiing. Was that the same trip? That was a wake surfing. Wake surfing. Yeah. Okay. You guys would come and do a little yeah, we could wake surf bar class in Madison. We could take you out and do some wakes. Yeah. Yeah. We tried that one time. Yeah, we didn't get no one. No one got us got off. Yeah. We're not at the side. I'm about to get it up guy. Yeah. I said, there's no medication. Well coach, thank you so much for stopping by. I'm excited for this season. I think we're going to turn some things around. So appreciate it. Right. Yeah. All right. No vest. No. No. I got to look. Fickles brought to you by Mountain Dew. Summer's coming. I can't wait to get back to camp or a stool. Nothing goes better with the summer time and hanging with your friends than the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. Dew is proudly born in the foothills of Tennessee. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew is an American original Mountain Dew. It's the best. And now here is USC head coach Lincoln Riley. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is head coach of USC Lincoln Riley. Coach, great to see you. Let's start with this year five. Are you, are you normalized with the big 10 yet? Big boy football. We are. We are. It's been a fun transition, I think for us. And especially in the middle of a million other things changing and college football, right? You know, like at the big 10 on its own in any era, you know, anytime you change conferences, it's a big deal. But obviously a lot going on. But it's a fun, it's a fun league, man. Yeah, it really is. I mean, it's, you know, I know traditionalists, you know, some people, you know, have different thoughts about, you know, how these leagues have come together. And we'll see how long, right? All this happens. I mean, hell, this may all blow up next week, right? We never know. But, but I think one of the cool things that's come about it is, I mean, it's truly a national league, right? Coast to coast. And then some of the new like rivalries and matchups that have come out of this. I mean, I like that to me is like my favorite part about the league. I mean, you think about like all the old great rose bowl matchups from years past. And now like you're getting those like every week, right? And like, I mean, how awesome is that? So I, I think it's a hell of a league. Obviously the success of the league is well documented here over the last few years. And I just, the way it's going right now, I don't see that slowing down. So are you intimidated all still like by like a Brett Beelma, bigger guys, you know, like, you know, meet potatoes? Like have you thought about getting fat? Huh? Have you thought about getting fat? You know what? Is it a prerequisite? I don't know. I mean, it might help. It might help. Whatever. What do they say it takes? What it takes? There we go. That would be great. If you're off season program was like, I'm going to get fat. Like that's just what I'm going to do. I'm going to become the big debt to get fat at USC though. I feel like the food. There's too healthy. That's right. That's right. I have to go back to my roots. I have to go back to Texas to get that. That's right. Can we talk about the brisket? How's the brisket looking? Fantastic. Did you know that when you posted that online, people were going to be like, that's a dry ass brisket. You know, I didn't. It's actually one of my favorite stories. So I am, I'm not a great cook, but I'm a decent cook. And I know I'll probably get roasted for saying this right here. And that's fine. I don't give a shit. All right. But I think we had. So we had a bunch of guys over our strength coach a time this and that. So my buddy had been telling me about doing this brisket. And my buddy is a phenomenal light phenomenal. And he'd been talking about doing this brisket and doing it in a Worcestershire bath. Okay. Right. So an olive Worcestershire on anything. All right. So I do this, have this brisket, brisket's phenomenal, but it rips all the pink out of it because it soaks in this bath. Right. So when I take the picture, I'm not thinking anything of it because the brisket was really, really good. And people say, no, it wasn't. They weren't there. Yes, it was. But I'm not a brisket like a fish in auto. So I don't have the pink right there on it because big to the smoke rings gone because the Worcestershire bath, obviously the dark liquid, it's a goner. And that's how that's how the whole thing came about. That's a great story. Honestly, like you move up a notch in my book because you could have thrown that guy into the bus immediately. You know, we need to do an off season. Here's what we need to do. You always need to come out to LA. You can come sit on the back patio with me. I'll cook it up for you and I'll let you be the judge for the world. But did you learn a lesson? Never post your meat on the internet. Like that's, it's always going to end up bad. It doesn't matter. You can try to get the right. When you put it that way, it just hits a little bit. Even if it was a perfect looking brisket, people would have had a problem with it. In my world, that's a nature of the beast. It was a very gray brisket. So when you went back and you looked at the picture, it was. I could say like that. You guys had a point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see your camera. That move. My bad. Do you consider yourself a QB whisperer or a QB guru? I don't consider myself either one. Well, you are definitely one. I mean, I don't know what you want to say, but obviously it speaks for itself. Your resume is insane. Like the guys that are starting in the NFL. How does that work when you're when you have a guy like Jordan who's now who's now going into his second year starting. It's like, Hey, if you follow me, like you can see it. Caleb, Kyler, Baker, like all these guys, I've been there for them and we've gotten to the point that they made a lot of money and been very successful. Yeah. I mean, I think the path and the track record and then being able to see how that could evolve and kind of envisioning themselves. That's helped us in ways, right? It's helped us recruit guys. Obviously, it's helped the confidence when somebody comes in that, Hey, we can we can we know what this looks like a little bit and that we have a plan for you. So yeah, I mean, is it is it a factor there? Of course it is. And yeah, I'm proud of hell to see all those guys doing what they're doing in the NFL and Caleb right here in Chicago. Obviously, you know, doing his thing and that's been great. And Jayden, I think will be one of the next great ones. But, you know, football is still football, man. Like it's it's people want to say, Oh, it's a quarterback or you know, you've coached these guys, man. Like there was every single one of those guys, I was I was a part of a big staff, right? Every single one of those guys, it took the rest of the team being successful. The team's not successful. Nobody's talking about a quarterback. And so, yeah, there's been a lot to it. We've been fortunate to have some really good ones and we got a system of how we recruit, evaluate and develop that we believe in. And so far, it's it's paid dividends for us. Yeah, that's a great answer. Unfortunately, you didn't ask big cats first question. And I actually wrote down the exact same question bar for bar. Are you a quarterback whisperer or a quarterback guru? Yeah. What's the difference? Well, that I would figure you would know. Well, you asked a question. Are you a whisperer? I don't really whisper. I think you're a guru. A whisperer to me is like a guy who like gets a quarterback who maybe's not great. And then you whisper in their ear and you're like, you can be great. And then they're great. You you you guru them. Like a quarterback that's guy that is already really good. Right. And then you come in and you show that you guide them on the path to start them. That's fair. So I think you'd rather be a guru. A whisperer sounds like maybe maybe like a career offensive coordinator. Yes, that's yes. You bring him in to fix something. And you mentioned Baker. I'm curious because we've gotten the opportunity to meet Baker a few times over the years. And he's a great dude. That wasn't any fun. I love that. Yeah. I was going to say like how long did it take for you to figure out what makes this guy tick because he operates like he always has a chip on it. Like he's always a little bit pissed off about something. Not long man, we hit it off quick. I didn't know him when I came into OU, but we had we had a lot of similarities. Obviously both from the state of Texas. There are some things in our background that that I think we we were able to relate with each other pretty quick. His football mind is really really good. And then he's obviously you know he's got a pretty sharp tongue man. I mean that his wit in the room. on the field. I mean, everybody sees it. He's kind of unapologetically himself all the time. And I'm that way in the meeting room as well. And so, yeah, we hit it off quick, man. I tell you one thing about big. I know people with the Netflix show out and all that right now have seen, you know, everybody sees him talking trash and this and that. But I was telling somebody the other day, like, I think some people think it's for show, like, it's not. Most guys, you try to get them in right the right mindset or mental kind of mental frame of playing their best, right? Most guys, it's like, hey, don't focus on anything else. Just play. Don't worry about the awesome noise. This is that Baker's, oh, the few guys I've coached complete opposite. He is way better when there is something on the other side that he's competing against that he hates, like he just is. And it just, it's interesting. He's like, fires him up. It also like focuses him in even more, which is typically not the case. Typically people get fired up and then mentally, they're all over the place. This guy has a unique ability to get himself like to the highest point of just juiced up, but then able to process and function at a high level. And he's smart enough to realize like, hey, this is what gets me going. So even if that narrative's not there, like, I'm going to find a way to hate something on this side. Like he's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's pretty masterful how he does. Yeah. He's a dude. He's a dude. All right. So we pride ourselves being football guys guys. You're a football guy. One of our favorite football guys of all time was Mike Leach, RIP. We were lucky enough to have him on the show. Just in all time football guy, his fingerprints are all over college football. What did you learn from coach Leach? And was there a moment where you're like, this guy's a little crazy, but I like, yeah, like every day. Yeah. Yeah, it was like a culture shock for me when I first went in there, man. I was new to college football. And then, you know, you kind of have in your mind what you think college football is going to be like, or what a college football head coach is going to be like, then you get around Mike and you're like, what the hell is going on here? Like, this is crazy. But there was a method to the madness, man. And there was kind of a, you know, it just, it worked. And sometimes I even look back now like how the hell did any of this even work, but man, it did. And yeah, I mean, I learned a lot from him. I think a couple of the things that I've taken is number one, I thought he was an elite at hiring people, which is obviously pretty central to what we do. And the best quality he had in hiring people is he didn't give a damn with anybody thought about who he hired. And it's amazing how many people just want to win a press conference, right? Just want to hire a big name to justify his phone. We did it. He's hiring people. And at that point, he didn't have the credibility built up at tech. So he's hiring people. And all the Texas tech people, like, what do you do? And like, you can't hire, you know, Dana Holgerson from Iowa, Wesleyan or all these like people, right? He hired me when I was like 23 years old. Like, everybody's like, what the hell are you doing? But like, he didn't care. Like, he just like, I know these people get the job done. That's what I'm doing. And you look at his tree now, right? Like in all, like you talked about his influence, a lot of people, like, I think the outside world thinks about, well, it's that way because of the offense. Honestly, that I think the opposite of the offense is a factor. I think it's way more of that because he was unbelievable at hiring people and seeing talent. The other great thing, and you guys probably saw this, he would talk to anybody. And so the people he met, the questions he would ask, he would find like diamonds in the rough all the time because he would just take the time to talk to somebody where somebody else might shake their hand and just walk on. I got better way to spend my time. Yeah. It was kind of a unique combination. But I think it made him one of the best hires of people that probably in college for ball history. Yeah. What was your experience like a walk on there? You know, it was, it was awesome. Honestly, he was great. It was fun being in the quarterback room with him. I've told one of my favorite leech stories is my very first meeting spring ball. So I mean, I walk in. I'm like, we're getting ready to practice in like an hour and a half, right? I got my no pet. I'm like, man, I made it. I'm here college football like first meeting. You know what that feels like. It's just a big moment. So I walk in the meet room. We sit down. He has a can of Copenhagen. And so he pops the can, takes a dip. And I've told people, I'm from Milchew, Texas. I've seen a lot of dip. I've seen a lot of people can dip. I've seen a lot of people take big dips. You know, this dip was so big that there was Copenhagen all of his face. And he had trouble like getting out like big words. So so much dip as well. So he starts to talk about, do you guys know how dips made? We're like, no, he goes on about a 10 minute tangent about how it's made. Well, do you know that it has like little fiberglass in there? And it like cuts your lip and that's gets your bloodstream. And you know, you drink green tea and lemon when you're when your lip gets like really raw. So I mean, he goes, he goes an hour and a half on dip. So we somebody comes in knocks on doing like coach, we're starting practice in 10 minutes. He's like, all right, y'all better get out there. I'm like, we have not learned a damn thing. Like not one thing. And I'm like, I'm looking at the other quarterbacks. So we're in the room who'd been there. I'm like, what the hell do I do? I just come on out here. It sounds like you did learn a couple things. So back then, you just taught us about I was an expert on dip when I walked out it. I didn't know. I didn't know anything about playing quarterback, but I was, I was an expert on dip. So how did that go when it was time for you to start, you know, thinking about being a coach? Like, was that something that you saw being your future when you walked on that? Yeah, I wanted to, I knew I wanted to coach at that point. I was, you know, kind of gearing myself up, preparing to be a high school coach. And then yeah, he kind of unexpectedly came to me once summer and was like, hey, you know, you can compete to be the third quarterback this year. Or I really, I have this kind of opening. I've been a head coach here for a while and I, you know, I really would like to have kind of a, an understudy essentially that could help with the young QBs and do all this and that. And you've picked it up fast. I think you'd be good at it. So just let me know what you want to do. And it kind of, I wasn't expecting that at all, but it was kind of like that moment where like, I want to coach, I'll probably never get an opportunity like this again. So I did it. And Russell's history. Yeah, I remember when we had him on, he told us something that has stuck with me since where it's like, listen, arm strength is fine. And you want arm strength, but accuracy is something you can't teach either. Have it or you don't. Do you, do you scout guys? You, when you're looking at high school guys or guys that are coming up, you're like, hey, this is what we need from you. We need to accuracy first and everything else can come after 100%. Now that I think there were some metrics on how we recruited QBs that allowed us to hit on some of the guys we did. Now, especially the last two places I've been at, I mean, you're recruiting a different level of QB, but honestly, it's still a lot of the same things that we look for. And, and again, it's almost like the hiring process, right? People fall in love with the big name. They want to hire them. What did people, a lot of times do with quarterbacks? They fall in love with the big arm with the gaudy stats, right? With the, the freak athlete versus the guy that just wins and gets completions and moves the football. And I might get like a real clear picture of being, like, being able to filter out the stuff that didn't matter and stay focused on that. And I think that's why they run a quarterbacks there, even though we couldn't recruit the cream of the crop, you know, they were all like really, really productive guys. Yeah. All right. I got a tough question for you. I guarantee it's probably not going to be asked in the traditional media. And listen, I understand coaches. You got to block out the noise. That's a big thing. Stinking Riley is a nickname. That's got to hurt a little bit. Like it's got to hurt a little bit. I'm not saying that you're like, you obviously, you know, you can, you can push it to the side. But like when that first dropped, you're like, God damn it. That's a pretty good one. Like it's a good one. It is good. Yeah. Like you have to tip your cap every now and then you're like, you got me. Like I can't do it 100% plus I've been called way way worse than that. So that's like kind of right there in the middle. So no, I always even on the road, if there's like a, like an elite fan that just like, like, talk shit really well. I mean, I'm like, Hey, yeah, that's you got to appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. That's a tip you can. And Ferris, that's a pretty wholesome nickname too. I think it could be a lot worse than Stinking. The internet does way worse stuff to to coaches on a daily basis. 100%. I don't know if you saw last year, the photo shop somebody made of Ryan Day. Did that cross your desk? I'll stick it. Can I just get your reaction? You got a photoshop and nipple right? Yeah. Does, does he have a nipple ring? Yeah, we, as far as you know, he doesn't, you know, we don't share a locker room. But I'm gonna guess now. Okay. But it looks real. It did look real. It looks real, right? And he might be a guy who would have a nipple ring. It's fake, but it looks real. Zach, get up here for the last question. There's been so much fun. Coach, we appreciate it. We're gonna take you up on your offer to come. Come on. Because we're actually all good friends with, uh, with, with coach muscle men. So we came out for a practice a couple years ago. Had a great time with him. Come on out. All right. Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, Polo's, hoodies, jogger shorts, rowback dot com. Zach, take it away. How are you doing today, coach? Don't well. That's great to hear. I did have a quick question. Uh, when it comes to the recruiting process and like that, the minor, this new era of, uh, college football, what's one character trait you look for in a player that other coaches may pass over where you see and you're just kind of like, oh, this guy could be a good fit for the program. We need him at USC. Mm. I mean, it's a good question. I think, I think, I think when you're talking about the modern era, I think what's kind of interesting is like, I think the outside world is still coming to terms with, like, we pay players now, right? Like, I think there's parts that like, oh, it's okay and part of like, oh, we didn't play it. Pay them before. Like, why is it like this? One of the things I've actually liked about that, as it's gone on, it's like another way to evaluate guys, right? Like, it's like another, like metric, if you will, right? Because you're always looking for, you know, what's their family life like? You know, what type of student are they? Right? They're the athletic traits, you know, injury hits, you're like, you're, you're trying to find like every metric on these guys that you can to figure out who they are. Because you're not, you're really not around them that much, right? Um, like this whole, thing is like added a whole other level to like I think it allows you to evaluate people right like what do they really value right like what are they really after here you know how do they handle you know something business-related like this so I think that's actually helped us you know I I would say and then to answer maybe more directly I think I think at SC it's different right like it's not just recruiting players it's like recruiting players are going to work at your place you know depending on what your place is like our place is very unique and I think finding guys that fit like academically there fit socially there within the campus that fit in you know a program where there's a lot of lights and everybody's going to be watching and having an opinion on every single thing that happens there like you got to find the right type of guys and so yeah we've dug into it I think as we've been at SC longer we've been able to figure out I think more more what fits there and I think that's a big reason why we've recruited so well the last two years good jobs thank you so much for stopping by think about getting fat yeah just a thought just a thought it would start with the brisket yeah right like a quick hundred fifty pounds in the Austin would be so funny I think you make the visor look good too it would be my wife for me though you get the top folding out over top of the vibe yeah yeah yeah but coach thank you so much for stopping by and best select this you enjoyed it man that was fun we can rally it's brought to you by quervo quervo devils reserved as pineapple jalapeno infused tequila it's like a spicy margarine bottle smooth and delicious devils reserve is the perfect drink throwing mischief is on the menu available in multiple sizes including 50 millimeter shooters perfect to bring to your party or your tailgate it's time to listen to little devil on your shoulder poor round of shots get ready to raise a little hell go to your local liquor store or go to quervo calm purchase your own bottle of devils reserve and raise a little hell please drink responsibly with quervo and now here is Greg Shiano okay we now welcome on a very very special guest it is head coach Greg Shiano from Rutgers coach how we feeling we're we're at big 10 media day I assume you don't love doing these you know big 10 media day stuff you probably want to be coach of football but how we feeling feeling great because it means we're getting close yes yeah another weekend away we go yeah yeah so you got you got training camp starts in a week when you start training camp can you feel like the energy off the field and the guys like where it's like you can close your eyes and you know hear the the the pads cracking and footballs back can you feel it right away where you're like we're we're ready to go yeah you do and it's the only time a year really where you get them all to yourself no classes no girlfriends no families just us in the building just grind in a way and that's where your team really you know summer's important no doubt because the player led stuff but training camps where it all comes together yeah I've been a fan of yours for years I've been interested in the lexicon behind the Shiano Man so can you explain to us what is a Shiano Man all right Shiano Man stand up guy you're gonna be a great father great husband do some important things but I got a bone to pick with you guys okay I've been waiting for the residuals on the Shiano Man I haven't seen a cent oh you have a song what's up with that man like you like it right now it's a song you're the Shiano Man singing is a song tonight it's it's it's honestly it's a banger you're you're correct about that part but when I when I first heard like you're always looking for Shiano Man I was like I need to find out exactly it might just be like you know it when you see it it might be like do you think that there's a difference between a Shiano Man and then somebody else who's might be a really good football player but it wouldn't fit into like what you need yeah yeah because I don't like jerks yeah you know I kind of like guys that love football and want to want to do it and yeah I don't have any problem with guys that get all the catchings of football as long as they love football if they love the catchings more than the football itself those are my guess you got a football player that loves to play football you got that right guy that'll keep chopping right that's it can you explain to us the the origin of the chop because I think it's it's a fascinating story because we almost we almost lost the chop before it even got started right yeah the chop was on on the on the verge of extinction no doubt about it we I heard it in 99 at Miami doctor Kevin Elko told our staff me never used it went away for dormant for six years we go out to Illinois open up in 2005 we're winning 28 seven we had a great summer got a good young team Illinois comes back and beats us thirty one twenty eight each year five haven't been to a bowl game yet so uh oh and I'm flying home on the plane and watching the tape and I'm not really seeing a thing right I'm just thinking how am I going to get this team back you know I told him you work hard we're going to go out there and went and it came to my mind that meeting six years ago and it was Kevin Elko told the story there's a guy in the woods trees are thick it's freezing cold and he's got a choice he can lay down and die or pick up the axe and pick a tree and just start hitting it one falls move on to the next and just keep going down the line and I called the G up a G A up to the front up hey look when we land you got to go get an axe take go down to the to the hardware store get an axe bring it to the machine shop on campus get him to paint it red I needed by two o'clock for our team meeting so what do you think when the team sit there after losing you know a three touchdown lead and in walks this crazy Italian with a red axe freshly painted they were scared yeah and I talked to him about it and sure enough we play villain over the next week the division one double eight team back in the day and they had a good football team and first play of the game are left guard jumps off sides and I said oh no and then I see Pedro Sosa who was our left tack who played in the NFL for a few years he walks up in the guy's face and goes and the rest is history we want to beat him like I don't 45 to six or something like that and that became our deal man chopping I like it and I can tell that you practice the chop yeah you have a really good chop just hand on hand right on the spot if you ever hurt yourself never okay yeah it's definitely a time where you've been like ooh that was a little too much chop there could be you can't you get over chop yeah you can get over chop rather over-chopped and under-chop yeah that is well said yes and then you just keep that stiff upper lip you can have a broken hand and never let them see you sweat right you can't you can't allow have you ever buried a football or burned uh film tape no but I've seen that done I hear a great story I feel like that's something you would do yeah no I just I just uh now I haven't done that okay yeah but just just just threaten your team with an axe I love when I hear good stuff like that but I haven't done it yeah what what's the message going into this year do you have because I yeah I always love it start training capable yet to see like coaches spent the whole summer maybe they've got a new acronym that they're unveiling our new motto for the team uh what is that going to be for Rutgers this year yeah together man that's what it's got to be we got to play for each other and uh we're gonna be much better but we got to do it for each other that's that's what's gonna fuel that fire yeah so you you rebuild Rutgers once you're trying to do it again is there ever a point where like I'm only one man like this is crazy that I'm trying to do this again because it's great you you are trying to do it again and it's like Rutgers is you guys are maybe in a little disadvantage sometimes in the big 10 with some of the Ohio State Michigan but you're there chopping trying to do it again or do you feel it like turning like it did the first time I do and I feel like I took a you know this my second time here at Rutgers but I feel like I took the a third time a new job because when when our board hired president William Tate and then he hired Kelly's in and all of a sudden I didn't have to be the fundraiser aim where I didn't have to be the lead guy on NAL it was just a philosophical thing before but now we actually have resources that are gonna match expectations and I'm really excited about we're getting better we're gonna be better this year but we're gonna be much better and then much better because the resources now there's a commitment there's vertical alignment Rutgers for the first time really in my 25 years of being associated I can't wait have you had success this time around like keep it because New Jersey produces a ton of really really good football players and keeping them in state I would imagine is like priority number one for the future of Rutgers how's that gone yeah it's gone great but it's got to be the right guys and it's not just New Jersey it's New York New Jersey Delaware that whole that whole area is ours you know we call it the state of Rutgers and we have to win there but we got to win on the right guys you know it's a very highly recruited area if you ever look at it you fly into Nork Airport and you'd take your protractor at it and you just draw a one hour circle around it you can get into over 300 high schools so people fly in from all over the country to recruit New Jersey we got to make sure that we get the right players from that area from the state of Rutgers yeah do you have a dog again so I get what I'm through we it's a it's a touchy subject we had a dog for 13 years yeah fumble I was going to ask about fumble a fumble that fumble fumble got your joke tough about we had to put fumble down I was thinking I was thinking about fumble and yeah obviously like get a little emotional I can see up but I I did realize that you had you did have a dog at one point named fumble yes so when you get another dog are you going to name that dog or is somebody else taking over naming responsibilities all right so here's the sad thing right my house has become a cat house now oh yes yes now we have my my that's some big time football guy no no tell me about my wife has a cat my daughter has a cat yeah and you want another worst part I'm allergic to cats how about that are you do you pet the cat do you pet the cat no petting no you're sure do you do you do you feed the cats I do nothing with you like you don't even look at them I do look at them but that's it but like are you like oh that cat looks cute look some nice looking cats oh that's not my deal you feel you have feelings for these - He's cute. - No, no, that's not true. not the case. Okay. Alright. When they bought the cats where you're like, Hey, you guys, I can't have a cat in the house. It's going to make me sick. I'm a football coach. The thing you better understand about football coaches, they're real tough. Like they act like there's one person who runs the family and that's the wife. She's a coach at home. Well, no, actually now it sounds like the cats run your house a little bit because your house probably smothered. They're shitting in your house. I mean, it's crazy. It's really cats. I don't want to even sound like I'm favorable, but cats are a clean end. Oh, no. He's a cat guy. No, no, no, no, no, it starts. I'm just dealing with it's brutal. I'm dealing with it. You got to have a line in the sand. No cats in this house. And then because the second they bring one in all of a sudden, now you're like, Yeah, I could see the allure of having a cat. Two rooms, my bedroom and my office at the house. Can I give you a little cat zone? Can I give you a little PR? Yes. Okay. I think you need to just start telling everyone because this story is going to get out. There's cats living in your house. I think you need to maybe say that there was like a rat problem. So you got the cats to kill the rats. As you give him, let's not make the neighborhood. But that's not right. You know what I mean? Be like, Hey, we had a rat infestation. I wasn't going to hire an exterminator. I wanted to do it the old fashioned way. I want to have these cats keep chopping. Run with it. Yeah. That's that's what we're going to say. But also if you can get, if you can teach the cats, if you can end up becoming almost like a cat whisper, then I would think like that's actually a great coach. If you can get a cat to believe in you. Now there's, there's none of that. They'll teach you the ways that they, you know, kind of move, you know, cats don't chop. No, they don't. Dogs chop. Dogs chop. Dogs chop. And dogs, no matter what the score was, the dogs waiting for you at the door. Yeah. That's true. Cats not so much. Have you thought about compromising? Say, Hey, you guys are filling my house with cats. Can I come home with the dog one day? Haven't gone there. No, I haven't. You think so? Show up with the dog. All right. How's, so you hired, did you hire a whole new staff or a couple new staff members this year? Defense of course. Yes. So how'd that go? Because I know there was like, you said you were going to hire someone in a couple days and it took you a little bit of time. Was that intentional? Or was it like, Hey, we just couldn't find the right guy? It's going to hire a guy after eight days. And it fell through. Okay. So the rest is not intentional. Right. But we got the right guy. That's the Travis Joe Hansen came to us from University of South Dakota doing a great job. We're going to be much better on defense and excited to see that. Yeah. The birthplace of college football. Yeah. What does that mean to you? It's where it started, man. Six four, you know, you know what the six in the forward? No. No, it was six scores versus four scores. More like soccer or rugby than as we know football. Okay. Okay. How often do you like close your eyes and think about the Thursday night game, which James Gandalfini on the sideline? Because that is like, that's college football. That was the hell of a night. I know we don't like to look at the past. You're looking forward, but that was one of my favorite, like seared in my brains college football nights with Rutgers kind of arriving his back. Now, you're right on that. And he was such a great friend to our program. I mean, I know you guys love the sopranos, but I mean, he was great, right? And that night, special night, we got to create a lot more of those going forward. And we're going to that's that's what New Jersey. That's what Rutgers deserves. And we're in the best league in the country now. So time to do it. Yeah. What's your favorite episode of the spranos? Oh, too many, too many great ones. Yeah. Yeah. Cleaver, you know, when they're trying to put cleaver into into action, that was. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. When they're sitting in the living room there, the English language gets totally abused at that point. Yes. Yeah. It does. It's great. Yeah. I'll tell you, we have a guy who's probably the biggest records fan of all time, TJ Hitchings works for us. He could be the new James Gandalfini that if you guys are about to be back, bring them on the sideline, he's a star. And that's the guy. Make him the guy. He's been, listen, every year, he's like, this is the year, this is the year. It has him in basketball and football. He's a believer like through and through. So you need someone like that. All right. He's ready to keep chopping. Let's get him going, man. All right. I know that you, you have to go in a minute because you, you, thank you for giving us any time. We'll have to maybe an extended interview. And then I've talked about this class situation. I need to talk to you about. Yeah. We kind of get off top of the catch. You're right. I actually feel like this is more confessional for you where you just showed up and you're like, I got to tell someone about these cats has been bothering me. He's like, I'll tell these guys, let's talk through it. The rats is the way to go. But Zach here has a question. He's, he's our, he's our closer here. All right. Fire away, Zach. Are we doing this, sir? During the time of Tampa Bay, I believe yours first season with a team was also a breakout rookie season for Doug Martin at the time. And I was wondering if maybe you had any, like, fond moments or stories you could tell us today, maybe quick moment. Just about him as a player on the team muscle hamster rest is so, right? It was a great pick. Remember, we're playing out at Oakland, right? So the old Oakland, Alameda, Kalasim, right? And Doug is kind of having a little bit of a rough start. And Jimmy Ray, who was a long time NFL coach, he just had told me earlier in the week, hey, you got to, got to tell Doug, very simple, keep your eyes up. So I just pull them over and say, Doug, look, your eyes are going down. Just keep your eyes up. And man alive, he rushed for like 240. That game is a rookie ended up rushing for like 1400 and something yards. And man alive, what a, what an exciting player he is. And it's a shame what happened, but, you know, I've got good memories of him. Yeah, you got to follow up real quick. Quick follow a question. I was curious when it comes to, when it comes to Rutgers, when it comes to university, how are you going to set that intensity factor this season on the field? A lot of teams say they got the guys, they got the, the right coaches in position to make these guys kind of put that batter in their back and have them perform. What separates you from one head coach to another like, how do you know that you're going to take this program to victory lane? Or do you not know that yet? No, I know it. Yeah. If I don't know it, you better find a new coach, right? Yeah. I know it. But it's going to be about playing for each other. And the way we do things, you got to do it for each other. What fuels your job? Yeah. And what separates you from some other coaches in the big 10, like you don't have a nipple ring like Ryan Day. So, yeah. Well, he alleged it. He doesn't actually, but we saw a picture of the Photoshop. So unless maybe you want to tell us a very dangerous thing. Do you want to tell us that you have a nipple ring? No, I can't. Okay. What do you think about that? Yeah, come on. It is Photoshop. No, no, no, no, no, coach, best of luck this year. Yeah. It was great having you on. We will get you those residuals. I think we probably have like 25 cents that we can give you. Maybe 50. Yeah. Yeah. We'll put it in the NIL budget. Double it. Yeah. Sing us a song. You're the channel, man. It's a old school. Yeah. 10 years, probably what nine years ago we did that song. But thanks so much and best of luck. Appreciate you guys. Thanks, coach. Coach, Sean was brought to you by better help. We talked about mental health more openly now, but openly asking for help can still feel hard. Better helps latest research confirms it. They did a 2026 state of stigma report they surveyed 2000 Americans revealed that 85 percent of Americans believed getting support as wise yet 74% say society discourages people from doing so. With over 30,000 therapists better help is the world's largest online therapy platform. They've served over 6 million people globally. It works. I'm going to average rating 4.9 out of 5 for a live session based on over 1.7 million client reviews. Better help therapists work according to a strict code of conduct. They're fully licensed in the United States. 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No, I think a lot of girls get it like a good cop, bad cop thing going on. Yeah. Also, how do you know? I don't know how you get perceived that what? My association. Yeah, if your friends like flirting with everyone, maybe I think as long as every friend groups like that, there's, you know, there's extremes on all levels. As long as you're not as openly hoey as she is, then you'll naturally be looked at as being like the good girl. Yeah, it's like, you know, if you're getting into a race and there's a there's a bear chase in your friend, you don't have to outrun the bear. You just have to outrun your friend. So as long as you're just not the the skankiest one in the room, people will be like, Oh, that's that's the good girl. Also, she's like a sloppy drunk. You like people will be attracted to the opposite of that. She's a mess at the bar. Messica. And you're and you're just a regular person. Yeah. If she has that, if she has that like stigma, that's for a reason. Yeah. If you're not like that, they're, but we don't kink shame. Yeah, we're sex positive. Yeah. Live your whole, your whole years. It's fine. How do you know if your boyfriend isn't saying isn't just saying what he thinks you want to hear and actually means it every time you're overthinking, does your boyfriend want to break up with you? Say it again. How do you know if your boyfriend isn't just saying what he thinks you want to hear and he actually means it? He's always doing a little bit of both. I mean, the real actual answer here is like backing up what he's saying with actual actions. But yeah, he's definitely trying to just get out of a fight by saying what you want to hear, which is fine. That's a, that's a, that's, it's a Darwin survival tactic that we've gained through years and years where it's like the guys who can't figure out that you got to say the right answer. They die off. If he just learns how to say like you're right. You always just say the right answer. - Yeah, you might not actually think that you're right. - Ah, but he'll say you're right, and that's really the same thing. - Let's be honest, every guy, every now and then feels like they might be in the right and they take a shot, and it usually just fucking gets dunked on. But I've done that. I do that probably once a quarter, where I'm like, you know what? This time, I am right, and then it's just immediately shredded, like basically like a first year law student going into like Johnny Cochrane courtroom. Like I just get fucking eviscerated. I'm like, you know what? I'm not gonna do that for another three months. You know what I'm talking about. - Yeah, there's the, that I did me of a, there's a story in the wedding planning where we got like fans, you know, like handheld fans for the ceremony 'cause it was gonna be hot. And my wife was like, there were these really shitty ones, and then there were these other ones that I got, and I have heard her and she showed me the other ones. And I was like, oh yeah, those are pretty shitty. And she was like, no, these are the good ones. And I was like, actually, I think those are good. I thought you wanted me to tell you that those were shitty. - Yeah, this is really messed up with this lady's asking because it sounds like her husband's doing the right thing or her boyfriend's doing the right thing, which he's like, you're right. And now she is like, I'm not willing to let him off. I need to know, he doesn't, I need to know that he actually means it. He's saying what I want him to say is he doesn't want to break up with me. That's what she's basically saying. - Oh, okay, is he saying that to placate me so that he can, because he's done with me? No, I think he's just saying that because even when he doesn't mean it, he's saying it because he's just trying to move on. And he's, you have to make a list of what's worth going to the mat for. You have to pick your fights. - Yeah, mine's different, Maxwell. It's like, I'll every now and then be like, I did so much today and should be like, oh, really? - Yeah. - Yeah, no, no, that's not. What about all these things I did, and I'm like, "Pock, I forgot about everyone." - I'm free. - Quite literally. - Well, that's a house is standing because of you. - I cleaned like one thing up, and I'm like, you didn't say thank you, and then she was like, how about this thing? - Yeah, yeah. - And this is the sign of the stuff. - Like, oh, shit, I did forget that like, there's a reason why my kids have lunch every day and are dropped in, like, picked up and they're in camp and all this stuff in the house is standing and like, everything looks nice, "Pock." But yeah, I did unload the dishwasher and I, without anyone asking me, and didn't get one thank you. (laughing) Oh, man, I've been accused of unloading the dishwasher extra loud to try to make attention to me doing it, smart. - Yeah, definitely. What am I gonna do with unloading the dishwasher and hope that someone finds out? No, I gotta let everyone know, banging shit everywhere. - It's the only point of unloading the dishwasher. - Correct. - You ever do this when you're done with a chore? - I'm just gonna clap your hands together. Give a nice sigh, sit on the couch. It feels good to take a load off. - Man. - It looks good. - What a day, yeah. - Looks pretty good, and it's never good enough. - No. Oh, 'cause my big problem is I put the shit back in the wrong spot. - And then I'm like, I didn't know the little spoon, so it's going in a little spoon drawer. - I'm like, what does it matter? You didn't put it away, and it's just like, I put it away all the time. - Have you guys ever experienced holding a utensil or a plate, and then your significant other looks at you and just watches, and then says, you don't know where that goes. - Uh-huh. - All the time. - That's a tough moment right there. - I always put it somewhere. - You gotta take a shot. - Yeah. - Oh no, I always put it somewhere. - It's Russian Roulette, and you're just, I gotta grave your hoping that that's the right drawer of stuff that you're opening up, and then it is the place where, and then you look over for, okay, she bought it. - Listen, I have a graveyard. I have a graveyard drawer that, like, it's the drawer that doesn't get open for a lot of stuff, and I'll just put shit in there, and hope that it finds its way back to where it should be. And then, it's like, that's a problem for another day. - Never say that. - I don't know where the fuck the food processor goes. It's going in the graveyard. - She's looking for it and you're like, "Well, I always put it there." You say, you always put it somewhere different? That's weird. - Okay. - I always ask where things are, and then I get yelled at, and she's like, why do you just look for a second or just know where these things are? Why do you need to ask me for where everything is? - I also have a problem closing cabinets. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, never. - They're all open. If I could make my dream house, there would be no cabinets. It would just be shelves everywhere. - No, that's worse. - I've lived in a shelf, no cabinet house. - Oh, no. - Because if it's just, it looks messy as fuck all the time. - But that's fine. At least I could just see everything. - I'm more so, I was with you at first, and then I heard BFT. - Oh, no, it looked like shit, it looks like shit. - It looked like shit, but I just never closed the cabinets. - It looks bad. - All right, last one. I'm so excited for your book. Can't wait to see all of BFT's one-liners put together. Anyway, my fiance and I are getting married to August 29th, which, as you know, is week one of college football. We are having a backyard wedding, and he wants to set a TV up. - Yes. - Is that insane? - Has to. - Or is he just a normal football guy? I might just let him, because we do bond over our love for football, but my family made judge. What's your thoughts? - You're what? - TV, no sound. Nice compromise. So if anyone says anything, they should be like, "No, but there's no sound." - We also got to figure out where this person's writing from. Is this SEC family? - But no sound. - Probably not, if they're even asking. TV's barely on if there's no sound on. And then when the game gets close, you put on the sound. - It's pretty much a nice piece of art that you're having at your wedding. - Yeah, a television show. - Yeah, just say the line we bond over football. - Right. - It's our what-ing. - It's like it's barely, and if there's a TV in a backyard with no sound, it's barely on. That's a barely on TV. - I'm gonna look at the schedule for that day. - Is that Ohio State, Texas? - What's the day again? - August 29th. - Oh no, that's what zero. - Yeah, it's UNC, you got UNC to see you. - Oh, no TV, don't do it. - And give yourself a real pat on the back for not doing it. - There's really not a lot. - No, that's weak zero. - Yeah, 'cause Labor Day is later this year, so that is weak zero. Weak zero is a, you can check the scores on your phone at the end of the day. - I guess if you're maybe, if you're an ACC person, NC State Virginia, that's probably the only one that you can, are you interested in? - No, but that's probably not even an ACC game. I think that's not. - Oh, that's the one that's not? - Yeah, yeah. - That doesn't even count. That's how to conference. - How to conference play? - Yeah, Memphis, UNLV circle it. - Over, good game. - Yeah, over. - If you're, I mean, maybe you're a big Michael Lombardi fan and you're like, I wonder what happens with UNC TCU? - Now they don't have a GM. - Oh, wow, crazy. - Yeah, I was like USC in that game. - Stand for a Y's, Vaughn. - Stand for a Y's, Vaughn, USC, Minus, what is it? 35 and a half? - Yeah, probably. - Stand for a Y, V-level 40 if it was in Hawaii. - No, last year they played in Hawaii, and it was like the windiest day ever, it sucked. - So I was scarred a little bit by that. - Okay. - What? - It was the first. - Stand for a Russian couch down like eight years later. - That's right, all right. - Man, I miss football. - Yeah, I'm so excited. Okay, good show, boys. Numbers. - Three. - 55. - 17. - Seven. - 23. - Four. - Eight. - Boy's coming. - Nah, they'll be running. They'll be running in a second. - Oh, they on his lay. - Slight the lay. - Are we up? - Erry, Erry, Erry, Erry, Erry. - 69. - 69 for Colton 10. - 84. - 84 for Jacob. - 34 for Jacob. - Shane. - Well Shane. - He's 10. - He's 10. - Huh? - He's 17. - 17. - Anyone? - Woo. - That was your number for a while there, memes. - It was never gotten it. - I don't think so. - Yeah. - You took 77? - Yeah. - No, when you dress as Dallas Maverick's Luca, you do that from time to time. - Oh yeah. - You do dress as Dallas Maverick's Luca from time to time. - I do. - That's a fact. - That's a good fit. (audience applauds) - Hold. - Who would it? - Is that what I mean? Is that something in the 80s? - 84. - Jacob said 84. - 84. - 42. - 82. - Pretty sorry. - Do you do one more? - No. - No, we don't want that. - Yeah, let's do one more. Let's do one more. - Yeah, let's do that. - One more doesn't count. - We did three interviews. - Three balls. - This is desperate names. - This one doesn't count. - This one does not count. This one does not count. What's your number? - Three. - Yeah, it doesn't count. - Three interviews. That would be three balls. (audience applauds) - What's that? - 75. - 75. See if it even counts. - It doesn't count. - Happy birthday to V.J. Edgecom. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's weird. I hadn't pulled up right here. - Oh, and it was 77. - And the number that came out? - That's weird. I'm gonna have to start doing birthday balls. - Well, that's weird. - Any other lockwood, any other lockwood birthday? - No other lockwood birthday. - Happy birthday to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Happy birthday to Christopher Nolan. Happy birthday, hope solo. Happy birthday, Bob Escalano. Happy birthday, Dak Prescott. And happy birthday. to Benito Mussolini, I don't know if that is a test lockwood. - Happy birthday to test lock. - Oh, happy birthday to my mom. - Happy birthday to Max's mom. - That's how Max's mom. - And we. - Happy birthday to John Summit. Love you guys. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (door slams) (door slams)