Flopchella

[MUSIC] Hello and welcome to another episode of Based News Network. This is going to be a Patreon episode. So if you're listening to this episode somewhere, not on Patreon, you're going to get to hear the first half. And then if you want to listen to the whole thing, you got to go to patreon.com/basedhuesnetwork to hear the whole thing. And yes, you're welcome. Oh, wait, no, thank you. >> Well, thank you to you, Kaya, for doing this lovely intro. And thank you, everyone, who subscribes to our Patreon. And thank you for your patience. I really appreciate it. >> Yes. And, Sophie, today we're going to be talking about the-- >> Yes. >> [MUSIC] >> Coachella. >> Coachella. Oh, God, that was really bad. We might have to cut that. >> What? >> You're not going to cut it. >> Okay. Coachella. Coachella is a thing. >> I feel like it's happening. >> It's been a lot of drama this Coachella. There's a lot of, I mean, first of all, Coachella fell off. Like, we know this. >> Has Coachella ever been on? >> I've ever been on. Yeah, I know. >> That was a way to do that. >> There's people, I don't know. Well, you know what, maybe this is one of the good things that happened with COVID. >> Yeah. Well, the thing is, I feel like Coachella used to be a little more cool in the mid-2010s, maybe a little early. >> The reason you say that is because in 2010 you were 10. >> That is not what I meant, but more like. >> No, no, no, you're right. >> I feel like the more iconic Coachella's were around that time. >> Absolutely right. Coachella, Coachella peaked. And I know we're not going to talk about this this episode. I guess we could, it's a patreon, we can talk about what we want. But I can't help but wonder, maybe the reason Coachella's not as good anymore is because music right now in general isn't as good. >> Well, I feel like that's your, I feel like that's kind of a central theme to your ideology, or I feel like that's like a central argument that you have, is that like music is not as good anymore. And I agree with you. I'm usually like not of the, like I usually don't take that sort of opinion where I'm like, oh, things used to be better in the old days and now it's bad. I don't really subscribe to that belief in general, but I do think it's a fact that music has to client in quality in order to make studios and make your record companies more money, et cetera, we know this. Anywho, I don't know if that's why Coachella isn't as cool anymore. But I feel like Coachella was very millennial. And maybe Gen Z's like tired of, of millennial, the millennial love for music festivals. >> So I've always thought music festivals are mid, I mean, I've only been to one. >> But I have never been to a music festival and I honestly can't think of, okay, look, I've never been to a worse place to be. >> It doesn't seem very efficient. No, it just doesn't seem, it just doesn't seem, it just seems like a bad idea. I've never been, maybe they're fun. But here's the thing, whenever I look at a music festival lineup, I see lots of artists, I know and like lots of artists I don't know and lots of artists I actively dislike. And if I'm going to go to a music festival to see a bunch of artists I like, I don't want to have to do that when I'm surrounded by people who are fans of artists I don't like. Because if you're a fan of music I don't like, I probably frankly don't want to be around you, you know? So it's just like, it's like, if I'm really into, I don't know, maybe radiohead or something, I would much rather see radiohead and not have to be surrounded by a bunch of fans of insert artist I think is annoying and has an annoying fan base. >> Well, what if you like the artist and you think their fan base is annoying? >> I feel like that's a lot of artist. >> I guess that actually does apply to radiohead too. But I feel like the thing is, if I'm going to go see radiohead live, I can get into the radiohead fan mindset. >> Yeah, I feel like the Coachella mindset is a mindset I never want to enter. >> Yeah. >> It's like, personally, I'm not the biggest fan of concerts because I dislike standing for long periods of time and I just like waiting on my feet for an hour just for the opening, and then you have to let the opener play for an hour and then finally the artist comes on and then you have to stay two hours to watch the whole thing. That's not even counting if you want to be up close. If you want to be up close, you have to wait and line for a day, or probably a Coachella day. I don't know how it works. It's so much standing and imagine doing this all day for multiple artists over multiple days in the desert heat, surrounded by a bunch of people on Molly and drunk people, no offense to these people. But people who are kind of loud in the party mindset, and they're also probably really rich because they're at Coachella, you know what I mean? To me, it just sounds really unpleasant. >> What music festival did you go to again? >> Okay, so I've been to Summer Fest, which is a music festival in Madison, Wisconsin, not Madison. No, oh my god. Milwaukee, sorry. >> Most of them don't know the difference. >> And before you left, before you left, it is a relatively decent, like, like a decently attended music festival, and I mean, definitely a lot of country people come. But I saw Janel Monet there, I've seen, like, big artists go there. So it's not like, it's a joke, flaming lips, you know, like, like real music shows go to hell. >> I actually kind of did because I got to sit down, because I was in a sitting area. I saw, I mean, I basically, I sensed really saw her for free because, you know, you pay however much you get in. It's no Coachella, so, like, I probably paid, I don't know, $25, $30 to get in. And yes, I kind of hung out around the Janel Monet area all day, but I saw her for what I paid, you know. >> Okay. >> That sounds like a pretty good deal. >> Oh, not a deal. It was pretty fun. It was pretty fun, and, you know, it was at night, so, like, it was kind of nice being outside in the dark, and, like, it's warm, but not too hot, and that was definitely nice. But sitting down definitely made it better for me. >> Wait, wait. Hold on. >> Let me hold that thought, because that's a really good, I think it's an important thing you just said, which is, I think this could be the next big thing, so maybe there's some business people who want to start a business. This is your business idea, if you're going to open a concert venue, just make it very chair-oriented. Because ever, Kaya, Kaya and Venn Stadium see anything. >> Well, I do. >> Okay. But for smaller venues. >> Let me just finish this thought, okay. Ever since COVID-19, I feel like concert venue attendance seems to be a little bit lower, and going to concerts of all sorts, I kind of just feel like, maybe it's just in my head, but it seems like people aren't into it as much, and I think a part of it is because, I think people have finally come to their senses that, like, standing for three hours, kind of sucks. >> Yes. You know? >> Exactly. >> Like, let's start prioritizing our concerts. >> Yes. >> I think COVID gave us all an opportunity to, like, take a few steps back and just think about the essentials of our life. We can work from home. We don't need to go into the office for no reason. Hey, we can also sit on chairs when we're going to go listen to our favorite musician. We don't have to stand. So, okay, that's, yeah, okay, actually, you know what? >> Yeah. I've stopped caring. I would love to go to Coachella if they had chairs everywhere. >> Maybe they do. I just don't know. I've literally never been, obviously. I know the owner of Coachella is a little suss, but if I had the opportunity to go for free and I wasn't actually supporting this man, or like, I don't know how bad it is. Honestly, I'm pretty uneducated here. Anyway, like, just because it is Coachella, it would be kind of cool to go just to say I've been, like, experience it. Like, I'm all about experiencing things. I love, love experiencing things, love learning and seeing new things. So, I think I would. go but it's it's not something I would pay money for like I just couldn't drop money on that Coachella okay hold up real quick ice I'm on pitchfork.com right now reading through the Coachella lineup and there's a fucking advertisement here for apparently there's a new Broadway musical called Illinois's that is literally the Sufion Steven's Oh Broadway now here now's a musical for you we should go we should go we should go oh hi I was born I'm just gonna yes okay let's hold that thought anyways so so fee you're a big fan of Lana Delray yes for better for worse she there's no shame in it but she was the headliner of this of this Coachella so tell me what you make of the snippets you've seen the reaction what's your kind of what's your kind of reaction to hear the rest of this episode check out our patreon thank you bye