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You'll understand QB, the original Japanese mayonnaise. What's up, Los Angeles? Welcome to Love It or Leave It. I'm John Lovett. And we cut the original joke. It went here because it bombed. And we've got a great show for you tonight. But first, let's get into it. What a week. Turning Point USA just announced a nationwide university tour. And I can't help but notice the name they've chosen for it. America, Love It or Leave It. So if anyone in here is confused and came to see Charlie Kirk, I have some bad news and then some much worse news. But welcome. I'm Charlie Kirk, and welcome to Love It or Leave It. It worked. They got back together. She didn't realize how much he cared. Federal immigration officials have used state and city police networks as part of an enforcement operation in violation of state and local laws. One sheriff in Texas searched across 83,000 cameras for, quote, a female who had an abortion. Fortunately, the woman had taken the now obligatory precaution of stocking up on abortion wigs. You're right about that one. Block CEO Garrett Langley went on Fox News this week to try and win over his critics, but did not exactly make a compelling case. I value my privacy. My family values their privacy. My employees value their privacy. But what we're talking about is safety as well. And so I think when people talk about just one of these, privacy or safety, they're prioritizing the wrong thing. What we have to prioritize as a country is compromise. This is a classic argument, the idea that we must balance these two opposing needs, privacy and security. It's the same one we heard from the Bushmen after 9-11. But much like the official explanation for Tower 7's collapse, I'm not buying it. The Constitution's protections against violations of privacy, including unreasonable search, are not contingent on the government's justification for that violation, because one crime does not recommend another. And even if you accept FloxLogic, Flox cameras are not being installed in response to a massive crime wave. Crime is historically low, and Jeffrey Epstein is dead. Not saying any crime is dead, but that a new technology might allow additional crimes to be solved at the expense of individual rights is not balancing safety and privacy. It's arguing that we collectively choose to give up our privacy on the promise of safety. And you don't have to take my word for it. Flox's actual statement of its mission on its website reads, and I quote, our mission is to eliminate crime full stop. It's like, did no one learn the lessons of Minority Report? Even those freaky deaky tub people made mistakes. And sure enough, Flox has led to a number of wrongful claims. Arrests, and even jail time as a result of false identifications. In Toledo, a man was held at gunpoint and attacked by police dogs after Flox confused the numbers two and seven. That is so stupid. Why would anyone's license plate be back seven to the future? Fuck it, I fucked it up. Pretend you didn't hear it first. Fuck. That is so stupid. Why would anyone's license plate be back seven the future? Fuck. Dozens of cities, including Los Angeles, have ended contracts with Flox. The most recent was Tempe, Arizona, where the mayor said in a statement Wednesday, we have to be able to provide public safety in a way that maintains the trust of our community. For Tempe, that means taking these cameras down. Responded Flox, CEO, that's disappointing from the mayor. I expected more from someone with such a normal penis. Can we show a picture of the mayor of Tempe, Arizona? Personally, I wouldn't mess with a guy that looks like he could make your head explode by thinking about it real hard. This guy's got a cool head. Bernie Sanders posted, going to the doctor, Flox knows. Dropping your kids off at school, Flox is tracking you. Added Bernie, lied about going to the doctor while actually meeting up with your ex and yes, having sex, but even worse, exchanging the kind of warmth and loving chit-chat and inside jokes you never share with your wife anymore, who you haven't felt close to since before the kids were born. Flox knows that too. And on some level, so does your wife. And Libertarian Senator Rand Paul responded to Langley's suggestion of compromise by tweeting, quote, our founding fathers are rolling in their graves at this suggestion. No, they're not, replied Flox CEO Garrett Langley as he watched a live feed of James Madison's corpse. Of course, Flox isn't the only surveillance technology that's part of this work. It's the wonderful panopticon we're building. Earlier this month, news leaked that Apple's next generation AirPods will be equipped with tiny cameras feeding data into Apple's AI. Why am I pointed inside the ear and why did you program me to feel disgust, said Siri. We can even see the cameras in action in a clip reportedly included by accident in a developer version of a Mac software update. With visual intelligence, your world becomes savable. See something you like? Just ask me. Just ask me to save it for later. Ah, yes, it's for taking pictures of books. Big, beautiful, bouncing books on the subway. I can't wait for the next Apple launch event where they're announcing these bad boys. For years, we've heard one request again and again about the AirPods, that if you do, drop your AirPods, they don't fire out of the case and across the room like tiny fucking RPGs. Bad news, we didn't deal with that at all. But good news, if you forget your keys or what the inside of a public restroom looked like, Siri will be able to keep track of that for you. These new AirPods follow Meta's lead, which despite privacy concerns, claimed to have sold over 7 million pairs of smart glasses. Well, now I know what I'm getting my co-worker for Christmas, said a man who's been secretly recording his female co-worker since last Christmas. As critics pointed out, Meta's new pervert glasses allow the wearer to film other people without their knowledge. We often say that progress isn't linear, but that's not true for perverts. Perverts live in a world where things are constantly getting better. The pervert looks toward the future with heart and fly open. Earlier this year, an investigation by Swedish journalists found that contract workers for Meta, who were hired to help Meta's AI identify objects in videos, complained about having to review footage taken with Meta's Ray-Ban smart glasses that included people having sex and using the bathroom, said one weeping employee, and in some cases both at the same time. Meta responded, actually, by ending that contract. Whether it's algorithmic feeds that lift up rage and paranoia or the destruction of the business model of journalism or a culture in which we are filming each other all the time, the people who profit from the technology are the most insulated from its harms. Meta denies wrongdoing in that. It's a big $17 billion settlement, but no one on earth is more careful about keeping their kids away from social media than the wealthiest parents in Silicon Valley. Flock executives aren't worried about being tracked by border control or jealous exes because they're American citizens and their relationships don't generate that level of passion. And Mark Zuckerberg isn't afraid of a customer filming him because he was having a bad day and was a little rude about remaking a latte. Mark's on his private compound in Hawaii practicing a conversation he'll never have in the most expensive mirror you've ever seen. And we should be furious and demanding laws that protect privacy and allow us to control our data and its use. But the problem is about more than what we've allowed these companies to do to us, but what we've used their products to do to each other. I saw a video recently of a woman describing a bad experience she had at a restaurant in LA after a server chastised her when her kids were making noise, the kind of post you see all the time. And of course, she named and shamed the restaurant. And of course, in the comment, there was a lively debate. I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry you can't control your kids. I'm sorry you can't control your friends. And so maybe the server was rude, or maybe that person is always rude, or maybe just before her shift, her mother texted the family group chat a picture of her younger brother's new baby and a passive-aggressive comment about how happy he is that he moved back to their hometown, unlike our little dreamer in Los Angeles. We are skeptical when a private company claims that cameras can eliminate all crime. We should be just as skeptical of a culture in which we use our cameras to address the minor indignities and frustrations that come with sharing a planet with other messy, self-involved, busy, emotional human beings. Don't be the flock you don't want to see in the world. Just do what I do. Fan out 10 $1 bills on the table and say to your waiter, this is your tip. 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Hey, how are you? Good to see you. How are you doing? Thanks for having me on. Yeah. Are you not allowed to cuss? What's ripping them a new A? Oh, we can say all the words. Okay. And often do. There's a couple we have said and then have been told to stop saying. Like what? You know, there's a couple. I can think of a few. You can think of a few. Think of a few and just know it's probably- Oh, is it the word where it's like- Yep. Okay, yeah, I got it. So, Donald Trump declared mission accomplished in Iran this week with a beautiful post. As you reflect on the ups and downs of the war, how proud are you of Trump for finally getting it done? He's gotten it done like 30 times thus far. We're a day 180 into this- 180 days into this war that was supposed to be four to six weeks long, and we've gotten zero of our objectives achieved. We were supposed to denuclearize them. That didn't happen. We were supposed to regime change them. That didn't happen. They said we were going to destroy their missiles. That didn't happen. Trump is still hiding in- in the carts in Turkey because his life is in danger. And then finally, they said we would stop their ability to fund proxies in the region. That didn't work either. So, the war is failing. It's absolutely awful, and it's costing us a lot of money. Yeah, I don't- I don't care for the war either. War is bad. I think it was a huge mistake. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal ran an op-ed that called J.D. Vance the GOP's Obama. It's obviously getting quite a response from the crowd, I'm trying to think of all the ways in which that's true, are there any in particular that jump out to you that make the comparison so apt it's hard to pick because it's so apt in so many ways in which they are alike well obama has charisma jd vance has none he has none zero res as my generation says i think obama is a liberal and he believes in liberal values jd vance seems to be the antithesis of that obama has nothing to do with peter teal um i don't know i don't see it what's the comparison i look they both so they both uh drew on their uh uh their family background which was you know they they both experienced sort of uh uh difficult parts of their childhood and from that built uh an idea of what they believed they should be doing in public life uh obama's was about knitting a nation together based on a shared set of values and they both drew on their uh their family background which was you know values that recognize that uh people of different faiths and politics can ultimately find common ground rooted in a shared set of ideas about what america is and that to love america is to understand it is always changing and our job is to figure out the best way to be part of that change jd vance uh opposite uh yeah he experienced a lot of hardship when he was a kid and then developed a theory of what caused all of that wrote it down then said actually no forget that we're going to do the trump thing for a while and the tech thing i mean like it's just he just is uh i i don't know there's no real way to tell a story like jd vance does not have a coherent story he tells from what led from his youth to where he is now in part because what he says now is completely different than what he would have said seven or eight years ago yeah yeah yeah and i think that obama doesn't have that type of massive change in ideology over a small period of time and i think that's what's going to happen in the future of time so i don't know i don't get the comparison yeah the it's interesting about charisma because it's a hard thing to define but we know it when we see it i've always thought that there's a curve which is basically there's a line right people have a certain amount of personality and they have a certain amount of charisma and if you have more personality than charisma you're boorish and deeply annoying that's fair if you have kind of less personality than charisma you're cool and like kind of people it's like you have real charm and people kind of want to like kind of get to know you because you seem kind of cool right and then but but i don't really know what happens when you go into negative charisma right like what i'm like actually it's like mathematically undefined it's sort of like the remon hypothesis it's like we don't know what happened like it's like you have to like get to the other side of the chart and it leads to a lot of strange implications you know he's like a black hole of charisma and you know what i like about it to keep your science analogies going i like how hard he tries when he's on stage yeah he'll go to ohio he'll go to his own home state and try to tell a joke and the audience will just sit there and not laugh kind of like the first joke that you tried at the very yeah very beginning and and several others throughout the fucking monologue yeah but at least you picked it up this guy this guy is consistently bombing on stage with the same jokes over and over um so first of all you you started a youtube channel when you were nine years old is that right yeah and it was devoted to minecraft and call of duty minecraft minecraft call of duty uh was it a subtle slow transition to politics where it slowly crept in or was there one day where it was minecraft and the next day it was politics you know it was it was slow and subtle it was over the course of a decade i used to get home from school and make these minecraft videos and i got really solid editing in the process i remember in high school i privated all of those videos because i wanted to get girls i didn't want to be like the minecraft guy this is the guy that's always playing minecraft oh yeah and then i graduated and you know i realized there were indiana there were caucuses happening in iowa so i started to travel to these trump rallies and have respectful conversations with them just talking to them about politics and i realized there's a lot of mileage that can happen if you just have conversation with the other side and don't act overtly condescending so that kind of built my style and built my flow to where i am so to answer your question gradual that's it well it's it's sort of we have two different sort of yours is a kind of uh non-condescending disagreement i go for condescending agreement okay that's sort of my generally to this show uh you also though are like a lot of what people would see of you is not sort of whatever uh conversations in which you know if you're on cnn you're kind of in a the rough and tumble it's not about hearing from the it's a it's a fight like there's a there's a famous moment where uh scott jennings got quite upset with you for get your finger out of my didn't he say what do you say you got in my fucking face get your finger out of my fucking face that's what he's i had to get that out with my heart your finger wasn't that close to his face was it he was quite mad at you you want to know the real story yeah it's that you know what be careful who you pretend to be because he was pretending to be somebody who could keep up with this war keep defending this war and it turned out he cracked under the pressure i was debating him week after week after week since the war began you know he was defending it 10 days in the iran war he was defending it 30 days in he was defending it 40 50 days in and you know trump said there was going to be a four to six week timeline so about 90 days in we've been on a bunch of panels and he just can't answer any questions about the war anymore what concessions have we gotten he doesn't know are we any closer to the nuclear material being removed he doesn't know so there's this dynamic on some of these panels where he kind of plays the rule he plays the time of the segments he'll sit there condescendingly he'll smirk he'll cut other people off and then he'll lie and just hope that everyone moves on due to the time limitations of the segment and i said fuck that if you're not going to play by the rules i'm not either i'm going to sit there and try to get a direct answer from you so i asked him multiple times name what you're going to do one concession we've gotten from this war like maybe i was gesticulating a bit much but he absolutely felt cornered and he said get your fucking hand out of my face i thought he was going to strike me i thought he was going to cry in that moment and you know in the commercial break right there i tweeted out like what did i say i was like i literally think he's about to cry sitting next to me and it got like two million views so maybe there's a little condescension right there is that i don't know that's that's sort of just sort of bitchy a little bitchy okay there's another one um brendan carr responded to the clip as it was going viral and said actually you can say fuck on tv so i don't care about this the fcc chair and i was like well can you show a pussy on tv because i think cnn just did that and uh that's good got them that's got it got them they still invited me back on yeah that's great we have of course they invited you back on yeah hey hey should we have the the the guy from that viral altercation that everyone's talking about uh no no no we don't want that no more viewers here at cnn we're we're all set on viewers too many viewers this week we said but it's we let's not gild the lily so uh i want to talk about like sort of what it meant to be part of you know gen z growing up on on youtube and now and that is sort of the the water you swim in it's a lot of talk about the ways in which this generation is in some cases you know part some some parts of it are you know further to the left there's also a lot of disaffected people that have gone in the direction of sort of the andrew tates uh first of all does the fact that some of these manosphere figures are like kind of being exposed does that do anything to kind of change kind of the role these sort of i don't know what you'd call them like these influencers who act like kind of gurus the the place they have are people shaking loose from this i think they are but due to a lot of factors beyond the fact that the tate brothers have been arrested if you want to know the tate brothers are sitting in a florida prison right now about to be extradited to the prison and they're being arrested for like rape charges child sexual abuse material charges like disgusting stuff in the court filings their lawyer is now exposing them and saying that they were renting a lot of their vehicles their bugatti's their aston martin's i made a video about this and i confused bugatti with aston martin and i got emails for days don't do that that's it's funny it's like it's sort of like if if you're saying that you want gun control but you accidentally uh mischaracterize a certain kind of weapon and then you'll be kind of vilified by like by gun people but it's that for the people that care about the difference between a bugatti and a gun and an aston martin i was like i've never written in either i don't know but the point is andrew tate is being exposed brutally by his own team because they're desperately trying to prevent extradition trump actually helped him get out of romania out of the investigation and come back to the united states in february of 2025 because paul and gracia baron trump and a lot of people around him were lobbying for this there are many reports about this in the new york times so i do think a lot of the tate's loyal fan base is beginning to shake but when it comes to young men and anti-socialization do you want me to jump in or yeah no do it i just i think it speaks to a broader problem of a few things combining right now algorithms are uniquely radicalizing young people you have elon musk who owns x and x is like nazi germany right now like elon musk himself will be tweeting fake crime statistics about black americans about trans americans about immigrants so he's radicalizing people en masse we have foreign actors think like russia iran china they want to weaken social cohesion by radicalizing young people you combine that with the anti-socialization of many young people like they're not smoking drinking having sex as much i am i'm doing all yeah no you're it's fine you're you're totally you're cool everyone knows you're cool everyone okay it's comfy and i get it i see it i feel it i know it okay thanks thanks i'm pretending to be be careful to be yeah something you're not okay so i mean the reality is covid fucked with a lot of young people's brains i was rather antisocial during covid i put a bubble up around myself and wasn't speaking to many people and i do intentionally tear that bubble down after and start dating again start hanging out with friends many young people didn't do that they got deeper into their bubble they got deeper into these algorithms They're online all of the time with a lack of socialization. And you could even point to Tyler Robinson, someone like that, the guy who killed Charlie Kirk. He was deep in these algorithms. He was deeply radicalized and antisocial. And it kind of is a bad combination. So I think there's this reductive analysis by Republicans where they're like, all young people are studying Karl Marx now. No, no, it's not really that. People just want change. People feel disillusioned with the current systems and they're looking for something different. And it shouldn't be Andrew Tate. Yeah, no, and I do think too, like there is this effort in the wake of some kind of mass violence or acts of sort of directed violence, whether it's a mass shooting or an assassination or assassination attempts to, there's this immediate effort to go comb through the record to figure out, well, what was their claim to the justification? Why did they do this? Why are they saying they did this? And everyone is looking and hoping that it doesn't kind of redound to a criticism of their side, that they're not on their team. But then that is such, and I get the impulse, right? But really like people I think would be uncomfortable to link Tyler Robinson with Luigi Mangione. They would. There's a lot of people that would hear this and people that I think would be view that as some like whatever, like sort of unfair. But what links people that do mass shootings or targeted assassinations is a desire, is first of all, being radicalized, radicalized online most of the time now and desiring to go out into some kind of blaze of glory, right? And if you see it as that pathway, in the end, like, yes, of course it matters if the president is stoking violence. Of course it matters if as a society, we're not rejecting a politics in which we can justify or defend cruel, violent behavior. But, and it matters who's doing it. But if you look beneath that, right? Like that pathway is the danger, right? It's what the tech and the, the platforms allow people to become. - And you even see it in less radical ways. Like less, it's not always just murder. Mike Collins has a staffer in Georgia who literally posted a swastika made up out of the word twink, right? You guys were talking about that. And I mean, that is a very, very good example of a young dude, a young staffer who's radicalized. Paul Ingrassia, who works for the Trump administration has leaked texts where he says he has a Nazi streak in him. So there's all these examples beyond just Tyler Robinson and Luigi Mangione. There was somebody who shot up a Colorado school the same day Charlie Kirk was murdered. And he killed multiple people. He was a young dude who was radicalized on forums, on 4chan, and it's a very real problem. And we have insidious actors in power right now. People like Elon Musk, who worse than this. I do think Trump in a top-down way just makes everything more volatile, but there is something to be said about young people just feeling broadly disillusioned. And you know what, you know what the worst part is? Some of the bad faith actors who take advantage of that are like Andrew, Justin Tate. They're like, you know what we can do? We can act like we have Bugattis. That's how they say it, Bugattis. We can act like we have those. And then we can trick young men into buying our course and then just sell hatred for women. So it's pretty, it's pretty insidious, right? - Yeah, it's not good. And look, I just want to say as someone who has a Bugatti, it makes you happy. It's so fun. I love my Bugatti. - I'm going to put a flock camera right outside it and just watch your- - That's fine. I'm not, I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm not doing anything wrong. Flock and God can watch everything. Everything I do in my Bugatti, which I have. Inspired by your thoughtful consideration of the male loneliness epidemic. We want to close out our convo with in a completely thoughtless lightning round. We're calling, is this man lonely? I will name a man. You tell me, gut reaction. Lonely? Here we go. First up, Pete Hegseth. - No, no. He's got a bottle of whiskey with him all the time. I feel like you can never be lonely with a bottle of whiskey. He's got the captain. He's got Jack. You know, he's got Jack Daniels. Yeah. - Are you just going to put a photo of me on screen? One of these guys? - Oh yeah. That's Adam Mockler. Lonely? - No, no, no, no. My girlfriend's back there. She's somewhere back there. - Yeah, yeah. No, you, yeah. No, you're definitely pointing at a person for sure. - Yeah. - She goes- - You're not just pointing at a sort of a, sort of a diffuse area of the studio. No, no. There's a real woman back there who is your girlfriend. I believe you. You're good. - She goes to a different school. - Yeah, she goes to, not lonely. - There's like-minded people all the time. There's gotta be something pretty isolating to selling out your soul and becoming a skin suit for MAGA. - Yeah. - So lonely. - I think so too. You know that thing if you're like at a loud restaurant or party or bar and you go into the bathroom and there's a buzzing quiet? I imagine that's around JD Vance a lot of the time. - Yeah, yeah. - You know that buzzing super quiet? Yeah, lonely. - There's this Mac Miller quote. He's like, "I've got problems as big as my house." And it's basically talking about the more successful he got, the more lonely he got. That's a lot of these people right there. - God, I don't want to, I was feeling that in my Bugatti the other day. - Yeah, yeah. - I was like, "Is this what it's all for?" Yeah, it's awesome. I love this Bugatti and how fast it goes and how low to the ground I am. I don't know. - You definitely know Bugattis. - Chuck Schumer. - Oh man. - I think he's more lonely in politics than in life. - Yeah, that's actually where I was going with it. - Yeah, right? - Yeah, he's kind of on an island right now. Him and Jeffries are kind of just going through it. I think Jeffries has a self-inflicted sort of wound right now in the form of the Kushner meeting. Schumer, I think he would have been a great operator in like 2010 or maybe like 1810 or something like that. - Yeah, somewhere, yeah. - But I think right now in 2026, he's not meeting the moment. - Yeah. So you sort of agree with the kind of, I don't know, online left, broad left view that it was wrong for Hakeem Jeffries to meet with Jared Kushner. - Listen, it's nuanced. I can understand meeting with the other side about affordability issues and trying to talk to the other side and sit down. Like I can understand how this is something that happens in politics. However, Jeffries has already pissed off a lot of Democratic voters. He's already seen as weak by the base. Like time and time again, he has been seen as too soft on this type of stuff. So while I do understand that meetings can happen with the other side, you can't just recklessly go out there and be like, "Yep, I met with Kushner." Is Kushner even a part of the, is he even like an official part of the administration? - He is not an official part of the administration. - It feels a little bit odd. So I understand why someone could meet, but this just isn't, no. - Yeah, I think the problem is not that he met with Jared Kushner, it's that he is not the politician that has become for people that are meant to be his supporters, someone who could meet with Kushner and they'd be like, "Cool, you give him a what for." You know, he hasn't done that part of it. That's the problem. - Mamdani met with Trump in the Oval Office, even off the record for a bit, and nobody really had a problem because we knew that Mamdani was assertive. He was likely on message. With Jeffries, he hasn't proven that we should be confident in his ability to do that. - Yeah, let's see, let's do RFK Jr. - No, no, he's not lonely. He's surrounded by an array of animals at any moment that he's gonna slice open or put in the trunk of his car. - Absolutely. Next up, Brian Johnson, the longevity guy. - Oh, you know what? No, I hope this guy's not lonely. Something about his relationship with his girlfriend is really funny. His wife, he's always tweeting about her. My girlfriend and I always quote this 'cause there was this one tweet, he's like, "It's been five days without her. "She needs a shower to wash off the dirty, "dead world around her. "I miss her so much." And I swear, I'm not making this up. He also is always talking about the vaginal microbiome. - Yeah. - That's the guy, right? - Yeah. We're saying not lonely. - He's got all the bacteria to hang out with. - Yeah, he's got the right flora, the right fauna, all of it. Well, RFK Jr. has the right fauna, and this guy's got the right flora. All right, and finally, Ray from Girls. - Bro, who slipped this guy in here? I don't know. - It was Hallie. Hallie really wanted us to talk about whether or not Ray from Girls is lonely. - No, he reminds me a little bit of myself in this photo, so I'd like to think no. - Okay, we're gonna say no. We're gonna say not lonely, good for Ray. - What's his character type? - I would say that he's definitely ornery. I would say needy, kind of obstinate. I think at times lonely, so it depends on the season. Depends on the season of HBO's Girls. Thank you, Adam Magler. Check out the Adam Magler Debate Show. 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We're in the final stretch of the midterms, and the political map has only gotten more competitive with new states and districts emerging as potential flips. So we thought it was time to get back out on the road and take a closer look at what's actually happening on the ground. I'm Erin Haines, journalist and expert on all things Southern politics. And I'm Jennifer Palmieri, former White House communications director. Tune in on Mondays to Long Play Series on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Restrictions apply. See website for full terms and conditions. And we're back! My next guest was Conan O'Brien's assistant. Now she is his podcast co-host and his greatest nemesis. Please welcome to the stage, Sona Movsesian. Hi. Welcome. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. This is fun. It's so fun. First, can I tell you that I had to learn a little trick to make sure that I get. I struggle with name pronunciations just because I do it phonetically. And does it work to say, like, Sona, I'm obsessed? Oh, yeah. Has anyone. Has anyone given that to you before? I actually think that when you do the subtitles, it says obsession. Yeah. It's an obsession. That's cool. So it's a good way to remember it. But I was actually saying back there when I heard you pronounce it, you did a really good job pronouncing the name. Hell yeah. Well done. Nice. I could tell you live in L.A. now because it's an Armenian name. Yeah. And you have to learn how to pronounce those. Yeah. There's a lot of us. There's a lot of Armenians here in Los Angeles. Mm-hmm. And that's good. You know what? Some people say it's bad. I think it's good. Oh, who says it's bad? I don't know. You know people. Oh, I know. You know what? Glendale has the highest insurance out of the entire country. Did you know that? No. Yeah. Yeah. Your first book, The World's Worst Assistant, came out in 2022. Your follow-up, The World's Worst Mom, hits bookstores on September 1st. It seems like you're not good at things you're supposed. You're doing. I'm not. Would you say your strengths are more vibes-based? I'm a big vibes person. I know my weaknesses and I know my strengths. And being an assistant, I'm not that good at. Even though I did it for 12 years. And then being a mom, I feel like I'm failing every day. And I've done that for five years. So I like to stick to it, at least. I feel like what we should think about is who would be beside you on the Mount Rushmore of personality hires. Personality hires? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think a lot. Because if you were a bad assistant for 12 years, but you've sort of stuck it out, that's impressive. I mean, it's almost. It's certainly more impressive than being a good assistant, because I'm sure a good assistant is going to last, but a bad assistant, that's amazing. Yeah. Well, I think that what I'm good at is I'm definitely a ride or die. I'm not like. I mean, I'm glad this is a political podcast. I'm not like a Natalie Harp. I'm not about to write love notes to Conan. Yeah. But I think that I'm loyal. I feel like I will defend him. I yell at a lot of people. You know, like. On the phone, if someone messes something up, I do that. I do that really well. And sometimes you have to do that a lot. And so that. I have strengths. I do. What's your style when someone's fucking up or you need to yell on behalf of the boss? Like, what is your style for doing that? Well, I start off really sweet. And if they can't help me, then I keep talking. And then it gets to a point where I'm not like yelling, but I'm assertive. And I think it makes a huge difference to be assertive as opposed to just screaming at people. So when I said yelling, I meant I'm just. Dissertive. And I think I can tend to, like. I can scare people if I need to. Like, I have a mission and I just, like, go for it. That's cool. Is it? Yeah. Okay. Because I can feel there's an intensity and kind of a way in which you're not breaking eye contact. Yeah. Is that weird? No, it's powerful. You know, because you know who else was like that? Like, last week was Jimmy Simpson. Remember Jimmy Simpson? And he wouldn't break eye contact with me. And it was cool. One of the O'Boyles from. Yeah, one of the O'Boyles. From It's Always Sunny? Yeah. He locks. He locks in. Oh, he does? He locks in. Yeah. It's very O'Boyles-esque. Yeah. Well, it's sort of. You see why he sort of gets to play these sort of intense and kind of sometimes freaky dudes. You're saying I'm intense? I think you're intense. I didn't. Yeah, I think you're intense. You do? I think there's an intensity. Okay. I'm getting it. You are? Yeah. I didn't know that about myself, but I like that I'm intense. I think it's cool. Well, I think you. I think it makes sense because I think you. To be able to hold your own with Conan requires being very. Very intense because he. Right? I mean, that must be part of it. I don't think. Well, holding my own with Conan is more, am I laughing at the things he's saying? I feel like that's been my job security for 17 years. But see, in the same way that Conan plays down aspects of the way he's hyper-intense, smart, and focused while being goofy, you're laughing at a lot of jokes, but you're holding your own. And, like, not. He's not. You're still. He's not in charge in the conversation. You're both in charge of those interactions. I mean, I guess so. I think so. You're right. First of all, I came into the game 16 years in for him. So he had this massive following. And it's really. I do think that there's a lot of things that play against me sometimes. I'm not a comedian. I don't do improv. So I'm just this person who worked for him that he puts in front of the camera sometimes and now. Puts me on a podcast. And that's. I think that that could sometimes be weird for some people, but I think that also takes the pressure off of me in a way. Does that make sense? Yeah. Because I don't have to try to be funny or interesting. Well, but there's. But, right. But so. But, yeah. But I think, like, what. I'm just thinking. It's like, sure. But there's a lot of people who are. Don't have to be funny or interesting, but who would be terrible. So. Oh, sure. Okay. But I'm saying. But, like, there's. Clearly, like, you're coming into this. Even when you start. Even what you just described. Like, there are many people who might have a great laugh, right? Who would absolutely wilt in panic being. Just having that role with Conan, but you didn't. There's some kind of assuredness that you brought to it that made it feel special. And that has to do. That is not just. That's not you as passive. That's, like, you doing something. I think that not having anything to lose, in a way, is actually really liberating. Because if I don't. Let's say he. So this podcast that we're on, that, you know, it's Conan O'Brien. Needs a friend. It's a big podcast. If all of a sudden everyone's like, we don't like Sona anymore. You should take her off. I'll just be like, okay, cool. I'm just going to hang out here then. You know? I'll watch in the green room from now on. Like, I think that if. It's very liberating when you get to a point where you're, like, very fine with whatever happens. And I think that that's probably what I give off. Wait. So your husband, Tack, grew up in Soviet Armenia while you grew up in greater Los Angeles, Armenia. I did. I actually grew up in. Monobello. I'm sorry. I know you said that. Are you from East L.A.? Yes. I went to Garfield. Oh, you did? My dad graduated from Monobello High School. East L.A. where they caught the Night Stalker. Right. Yeah. They beat the shit out of him. They got him. Yeah, they did. Yeah. They saw him and they're like, that's the guy. And they beat the shit out of him. That's a very L.A. thing to do. Hell yeah. Yeah. But yeah. No. So we're different. We're very different. Well, the other thing that's very L.A. is to get killed by the Night Stalker. Yeah, yeah. Or just a serial killer. Yeah, generally. It's like, what are we doing in L.A.? Well, we get killed by the Night Stalker. We beat up the Night Stalker. I did not. This is going to be so dark. Yeah. This is so dark. I brought a weird energy today. I know. And you're sitting like that and I sat like this because this is how I like to sit. Well, because you're. My leg's folded. Okay. Me too. Yeah. Wow. We have so much in common. We do. I like it. Oh, but yeah. He grew up in Soviet Armenia. Wow. Yeah. I know. It's very different. Does it affect your parenting styles? So, a little bit. You know, he's. So, my husband doesn't like staying in line for stuff, like food. And I think it's because he grew up in the Soviet Union. He says it's not. So, I used to go to trendy restaurants before and now, like, we'll go to Panera Bread and he'll think that that's like, oh, we're having a nice. We're going to a nice bakery. I'm like, all the nice bakeries have lines in front of them, but you won't let us go there. So, we go to places like Panera Bread. And then, you know, he'll show the kids some, like, Soviet cartoons. And they're just, like, weird versions of what we grew up with. So, there's Vinnie Pooh, which is the Soviet Winnie the Pooh. And, you know, the one here is, like, a really, like, affable little bear. And the one there is, like, he's voiced by a guy who just smoked a lot of cigarettes. And he's just, like, he's speaking this weird Russian. And I'm like, we can't show this to our kids. Everything in the Soviet style is just slightly off. Like, the Tom and Jerry is. Isn't it? It's a cat and a mouse. It's a wolf and a bunny. And I'm like, this is weird. The Soviet version of all this stuff is just weird. And I think that's why Soviet people in general are just off a little. Yeah, no, I think it's the combination of the weird cartoons and the sort of shadow of communism. Oh, that could be it, too. No, no, that's a good point. That could be it, too. Maybe it's just the cartoons or the. That's a good point. Deprivation. That's a good point. Yeah. He wasn't allowed to have a VCR. I'm sorry. I don't know why I'm laughing. It's awful. Like people had it all. People had to like sneak in a VCR to people's houses because they weren't allowed to have them. And I was like, you can't even have a VCR. We had a VCR, but all the movies were just taped from television, which means we never had the first 30 seconds of any movie. What did you learn from your years as Conan's assistant? I learned in TV, you know, when you're talking about personality hire, it does go a long way. When you're able to like be a good people person, it does go a long way. So there's a lot of things, you know, I got done just because people liked working with me. And then with Conan, Conan has this very intense work ethic. He's very, you know, like for him, he doesn't want to put anything out there until it's exactly the way he wants it to be. And I am the absolute opposite in a way. I'm a very like, this is good enough. This will be fine. And then we'll like fix it. Maybe tinker it. But this is good enough. I didn't learn any of his work ethic. I don't even know why I brought that up. Like I didn't, I got none of that rubbed off on me. But I just, I think that I really learned. Here's what I learned. And this is actually serious. You can be in a position where people respect you in your field and love you and your beloved figure. And you could still be a very decent person. And that's what Conan showed me is that, you know, anytime I hear someone. Mistreat their staff or as an awful person, I look at Conan, I'm very lucky. And I, you know, I always joke that I'm going to be working for him until he dies. And, you know, which could be any minute because he's like, you know, he's kind of fragile. And he's tall and like big dogs, you know, they don't last as long. He can just tip over and he's done. And he's Irish. And he's Irish. I mean, he lives in LA. I mean. Yeah. That's a really rough combination. So I do think that it does have a lot to do with just being a decent person and treating your staff very, very nicely. And what if you don't do that? What if you don't do that? Like, what are the, are there other ways you were like, what if you're just like, what if it's like you lead with fear, you know, and setting people against each other? Oh, I don't know. I mean, like a Bill O'Reilly, like, oh, fuck it. We'll do it live. Like that kind of thing. That's sort of my model. I don't know. I don't know if that works. That's your model. Well, let's talk about it. You've committed to a life sentence of having Conan O'Brien for a boss. Yeah. Which makes you the perfect judge for our next segment. Welcome to Boss Court. Boss Court. Boss Court. Here's how it works. The producers of the show have assembled evidence against me, but also evidence for my defense because they're sick like that. I will read each exhibit. Sona, you're going to tell us based on the evidence if I'm a good or a bad boss. Oh, I like this. And this is like my dream of being a judge on one of those judge shows without having to do all the work to get there. I kindly invited us to take nice unused furniture from his basement, but never confirmed an actual time and date for pickup. And by the time we cycled back to claim the furniture, it had been eaten by rats. Is that true? So I'll tell you something, what happened, which is. Oh, my God. So what happened was, I'll tell you what happened. I live in a home that used to belong to an actor and she gets these PR boxes. Okay. PR boxes. PR boxes were just thrown over the door into the yard and I would just collect these PR boxes and when I first moved to the house, I would text, it's Vanessa Hudgens, I would text Vanessa, I've talked about it, I would text Vanessa Hudgens' assistant and be like, can you please come pick up, there's another round of boxes. I mean, endless, I have leisure and books and new kinds of, all, sunscreens, all these PR companies are just sending big famous people all the stuff. Yeah. It's a window, you would, I never knew. Yeah. The richer you are, the more free stuff. yeah yeah yeah yeah but eventually it's like it's been over a year and like we just at some points like the the assistant stops coming the stuff piles up uh what when my my sister and mom would come to town they would call it going to the mall and then go look at some of this free shit and be like oh look there's like a cool bathing suit whatever but unbeknownst to me one of the boxes was a company there was just a box in the basement and it had protein powder for some upstart protein company and a couple of rats got in the basement ate the protein powder became super strong rats and it was a concentrated box with so many calories that they like like it was like within a few weeks like unbeknownst you just just rats and they just ate the chairs oh my god and then you know we did we killed all those fucking rats so at that point you were like hey staffers come no no no no no no long before find out long before long before it was like oh we got to find a time you got to come grab because it was because when my my partner moved in and there was a bunch of over so i just had extra stuff yeah and so they were going to come by and check out the furniture but we never really set a time mostly on me but partially on them and then the rats got it but how long between you sending that like hey come pick up the furniture months months you're a shitty boss yep yeah no that's on you bad boss yeah oh your your whole staff is clapping that says a lot about you ellen no oh my god oh my god oh my god oh shit she's never coming back on her podcast she never was anyway isn't she in she's in the cotswolds no yeah i think the cotswolds okay i think the cotswolds for sure yeah uh i got five 32 ounce diet cokes from mcdonald's but it was just because they were having a deal and by the time we got them they were mostly flat according to producer bill he made this is what producer bill said he made me join him on an elevator ride to retrieve a bottle of coke and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so a large delivery order with like five sodas and then for the entire ride explained his complex scheme for why it's more advantageous to order the five large sodas because it's a better deal. Also, the number of people in the room just outnumbered the Diet Cokes which was like a sick mind game. Why'd you get it from McDonald's? Because they're the best Diet Cokes. No, the fountain ones are the best Diet Cokes. That's what it was. It was fountain Diet Coke from McDonald's. Oh, because you had pictures of the bottles on there. Well, that was just an image. That's, yeah. No, it was fountain Diet Cokes and because there was a discount once you got past four so I got five. You are such a magnet for those kinds of scams it sounds like. Oh, yeah. People are like, oh, you get two for the price of one. They're each $64. Well, no, that's not what I'm trying to say. Hold on. No, one is $64. If you pay $5 more you get the second one that's like a little bigger and you're like, yeah, I'll do that and you end up buying things you don't really need. Yeah. That took so long for me to say. No, but I do. But I do get the things you don't need. Yeah, but so you got you just went to so you went to McDonald's to get four. You got five and you were like, I'm going to be nice and give this out to people. You had Bill come and take it from you. Well, because I couldn't hold five. Okay. Because it's hard once you get to five. You know what? I'm just going to say you're a bad boss. Yeah. Fair enough. I just, you're you're just awful. It's flat. Nothing's worse than flat Diet Coke from McDonald's because you're right. The McDonald's Diet Cokes are the best. It was flat by the time we got it. So did you call that McDonald's? Can you call McDonald's? Yeah, you can. Or I would have driven back and I would have been like See, that's cool. That's cool. This is what I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. Yeah. I would have gotten a refund for what is that like? It was like, well, it was like I can't remember it was like 17 bucks once I got to the fifth Yeah, I would have gotten a refund for $17. It's not even about the money. It's the principle of the thing. Let's do one more. Pulled us aside one day to explain that he was dating one of our colleagues. Oh! While defensively explaining how they went to HR and signed some sort of document about it but did invite us to roast him at their eventual wedding and we really went for the comedic jugular. Oh, wow. You dated someone who worked here? Uh-huh. A subordinate? Well, everyone's a subordinate. It's my company. That's true. That's true. Yeah, it was but I was But you signed his document. I was so worried about the ethics of it that I was like I like I was so careful about making sure that the person who I love and is now married to me Oh, I was gonna say Are you guys Yeah, we're married. We got married. Yeah, they love my life. Oh, that's sweet. I realized at some point that they were the love of my life and I was gonna figure out how to we would have to figure out how to do this. Oh, that's sweet. And so it was a little bit complicated but we did sign the paperwork. It was called a love contract. You didn't invite us to roast him at their It was what? It's called a love contract. It is? It actually exists? Yes, because you have to say you won't keep dating if you don't love each other because you you have to prove you have to say to the company hey, if you're not interested in each other you can't stay together just because you happen to work together so you have to agree that if you're not in love you're undate. Oh. Isn't that an interesting document? That's very weird though. Yeah. Like what what if you're not there yet? Yeah. I don't know. Okay. And you guys were there? We were there. Oh, that's really sweet. No, I like you know what? I like love. I'm like a 14-year-old girl when I get to like rom-com stuff and this feels very rom-com so I'm I think you're a great boss here. Yeah. I know. I knew I said I was going to be a bad boss the whole time but you got me. 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There's nothing like a short spin after a long week because it's time for the rant wheel. Oh, no. Here's how it works. We spin the wheel. Wherever it lands, that person rants. Why do we have a wheel to land on the three wheels? We spin the wheel. We spin the wheel. We spin the wheel. We don't know. We all get to rant. Yeah, it's just it's it's we've never cracked it. Let's spin the wheel. It has landed on Adam. What would you like to rant about for 60 seconds? Oh, no. OK. I'm really, really sick of men who refuse to change and then complain that women don't actually like them. Women have been forced to change for men for a long time. And I think that's a really, really good thing. I think that's a really good thing. And now young men are confused and mad that they have to go outside, put in effort, take a shower, put down the controller, stop watching Andrew Tate and actually put in some effort to go get a girl. I mean, my girlfriend has changed me for the better. I now have more than three shirts to choose from. I was like a cartoon character, the same few shirts, these pants he chose. I have ambient lighting in my place. I used to just have hospital lights like everything was incredibly bright. I'm on my phone less. It's overall a net positive. And I think that a lot of men can change themselves for the better, can be changed and helped in a relationship. And I think that, uh, yeah, put down the Andrew Tate, go put on deodorant, go outside, go better yourself and go try to find someone you love. That's nice. Thanks guys. Yeah. Wait, four seconds, three seconds. And also, um, yeah, grow up. Yeah, no, for sure. I like that. Yeah. I think it's funny, the effort thing. Cause it's like, I feel like there's a, there's a way in which, especially when you're young, you're like, Oh, I don't want to pretend to be someone I'm not because then they'll eventually see who the real me is. So I'm not going to put on a big effort to try to make myself look or act or like kind of put on a show. And that's not who I am. And it's like, no, no, no, you misunderstand the effort you put in going into a date is not about the person you're pretending to be at the end of that effort. The effort itself is proving you're the kind of person who makes an effort and people should want to be with someone who makes an effort. And if you're not willing to make an effort that is the person that people don't want to date, not the person that you're showing up as, as the real you, it's the person that didn't make the effort. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's yeah. That was another good rant. That was perfect. You know, like I think there's a self-fulfilling prophecy where people think that I'm not even going to try. I'm not worth it. I think that women won't like me. And then because of that, it weakens their confidence interval and stops them from actually trying. So try. Yeah. And it's okay to get rejected. I think that people, did you say, yeah, did you say, who said, yeah. Okay. Um, somebody really agreed with me on that. Um, I think that's a good rant. I think that's a good rant. on that who clearly gets rejected. I've been rejected a lot. No, I'm kidding. I'm totally kidding. I'm never speaking again. I know. Poor guy. I think that there's a, there's a very risk averse kind of quality that's coming out for a lot of people and they're very terrified of rejection. And I, you know, uh, before I met my husband, I got to a point where I just started hitting on anything and everything that I wanted to hit on and I got rejected and sometimes I didn't. And I would leave my number for waiters sometimes if I thought they were cute. So, I, uh, it's, you'll be fine. You'll survive rejection. I do think that that's something that is important for young men, especially to know. I just want to finish this off by saying rejection is like removed from our society with young men, because if I want to go apply for a job, I do it online via LinkedIn. If I want to find a date, I would like go on hinge before. If I want to get food, I don't even have to go out in public. I can just door dash it. So we've removed a lot of that social friction and that rejection. Yeah, that's true. Let's spin it again. Oh my God. What would you like to rant about? I'm going to be honest. I didn't fully know what I was going to rant about. And then when Adam started talking, I was like, yeah, you know what men don't go out and like get to know women a lot. And so on that point, I would like to talk about perimenopause. And here's why we learn about when it starts, when our whole female puberty starts, nobody tells us what happens to us when it's ending. And I wish someone had told me what happens when it's ending. And as a woman in her forties, I'm deep in it. I'm angry that no one talked about it before. I feel like you two can just chime in at any minute if you want to, you know, roll with me on this, but it is definitely something that really lacks from female education. It's just, it's just shows how little people talk about what's actually happening with women's bodies in general, which is really frustrating. And I think that I would really love if older generations would be able to talk about it. And I think that's a really good thing. And I think changing you're itching a lot like your body is just weird things are happening and you don't know why it's happening and then you you talk to your friends and someone did the research and then you start really going down the deep dive of this this this hole that is perimenopause and it's I really wish it's I think it's endemic of a lot of other things about how there's very little research when it comes to what happens to women's bodies in general how the information is not there for a lot of people and things happen to us and we have no idea why it's happening to us it takes forever for us to get diagnosed with certain things sometimes so yeah I'm I'm pissed I'm ranting it's really weird I have a family member who a month ago was talking about the same thing she's in her 40s going through the same exact thing and said there's not enough research she has to resort to like reddit threads and personal experiences because a lot of stuff surrounding pregnancy like you said changes in women's bodies is very very under researched and it's a big big problem right now yeah yep disagree disagree I think we've looked at it enough we got a lot of good information and we got to focus on more important things affecting men there's a lot of things going on in male male bodies that we don't fully understand oh yeah yeah like oh tons of stuff okay yeah okay let's spin it again uh it has landed on me uh so Erewhon this very fancy grocery store in Los Angeles just opened up another location they're getting closer and closer to the magic number which is 20 because at 20 I think they're at 17 or maybe 18 depending on how you count uh at 20 Erewhon will have to start posting calories and I think that is going to be awesome because because that is going to be when people find out what is going on inside of these fucking smoothies these 16 dollar health food smoothies that are going to deliver healthy smoothies and they discover that they've been basically having a fucking Dairy Queen blizzard for years it is going to be so thrilling the streets will run fucking red yeah but like my god you think you think some of the shit that I mean it's just shit that's going to go down in this city at that at that fucking valley Erewhon it is going to look like it's going to look like like it's gonna look like a rack it's going to be crazy the battles that are going to be fought on the street yeah you know what that reminds me of is that scene in Mean Girls when Regina George finds out that she's been eating protein bars that are just designed to make her fat and she loses her mind and then just releases the burn book that's that's like on a city-wide scale and you know what they're not they're never gonna get there or if they do they're gonna change the name yes so this is the thing so uh uh like the reason that there's hillstone and houston's that they're separate that's what i was thinking of yes i was like i know houston's did that well so they did it and they changed we were talking about this that like they had to not just change the name i assume their lawyers also made them adjust the menu so the hillstone menu and the houston's menu is defensively different so they don't have to put the calories on because if people found out what was going on with those fucking burgers again we'd still go of course yeah spinach dip yeah how many calories i don't care i never care more calories please yeah calories for my money wow what a deal there's so many calories yeah hey i'm sorry can i get some calories on the side to dip uh all right we'll be right back and we're back sometimes it's best to double down other times you got to double back either way it's time for second thoughts adam and sona i have a i've had a dynamite time with both of you tonight but my producers have given us on a list of moments from this evening show that they think went bad and that i should regret if you have any moments of regret from tonight please think about them you're free to share them let's see from the monologue uh i very quickly brought up children with eating disorders and uh mass shootings but what the audience doesn't know is that there was also a joke about suicide that we cut and i brought the energy down and it took i had to fight basically for the next hour to get you back and that's on us that's on us and we talked about it beforehand and we should think about that as a lesson going forward uh yep i did not have enough goodwill built up for the active shooter joke uh uh you guys hated the abortion wigs joke and then i riffed on it which you also hated you're really you doubled down on that of course i did triple down and i was like wait does that mean one person has wigs like she has multiple wigs because she has multiple abortions she's just abortioning all over the place what's interesting is you thought you thought one wig per abortion i thought multiple wigs for one abortion because she's moving through different jurisdictions but that's the beauty of a joke like that it's art it's up to you to interpret it how you feel you thought it was a woman having one wig for abortion why do you need a new wig for your next abortion is this back seven the future back seven in the future i flubbed back seven the future the one joke that didn't make everyone mad at me and then once people got it you beat it to death yeah beat it to absolute fucking death and it would have been so good if you didn't flub it i leaned into that riff pretty hard about having a bugatti but i liked it yeah uh adam have you ever seen the show girls no yep okay you gotta pan you gotta know the audience yeah that was a mistake there i said to sona immediately hey there are a lot of armenians there are armenians in la then took the world's longest boss and said which is good i remember that what was that about and there were so many things running through my mind like oh no does he hate us why is he pausing i'm glad you clarified you think it's good because i didn't know if what you didn't know wasn't clear uh i compared i compared conan o'brien to a big dog who doesn't live very long i like this segment a lot and that's our show thank you so much adam and sona but because that's the end there are 67 days until the midterms we'll be back next week with lauren lapkus brian posain and trinity the tuck have a great weekend love it or leave it is a crooked media production our show is produced by kendra james bill mcgrath kelsey gante and me john lovin our production team includes hallie keeper sarah lazarus raman borsellino peter miller david tolls claudia shang jay banks gavin purcell and matt degrote and our staff is proudly unionized with the writers guild of america east long play our docu-series exploring the people and forces shaping the south is back newsflash the south is the new political epicenter of the country democrats are way on their heels in this region but republicans are going through their own reckoning in the 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