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Meta on Wednesday agreed to pay $17 billion in imposed new safety rules as part of a settlement over claims that its social media platforms were addictive and harmful to children and teens. Now a little alert will pop up when your child gets and eating disorder. Meta also agreed to other restrictions including a daily two hour time limit and a default ban on access to the apps late at night. And if a teen wants to use Instagram to bully someone, they'll have to first complete a capture to prove that they're actually cool. The settlement also requires Meta to block notifications during school hours because we want to make sure nothing disturbs kids in the classroom between active shooters. Remember earlier when I said Meta also that some of them might be dark. That was one of the dark jokes we were talking about. And then there's Flock, a tech company that has built a network of over 120,000 cameras conducting 20 billion vehicle scans a month across 49 states. If you do the math, that's every state but one. But is there a downside to this vast network of cameras and sensors in the hands of a private corporation? No. Yes. Traffic cameras have exposed the ways in which a subset of dangerous drivers pose a risk to the entire community. But Flock's cameras aren't limited to tracking plates. The company's AI technology could potentially identify individuals based on facial features, clothing and wireless devices, over 50 police officers have been accused or charged with misusing the technology including accessing camera data to stock their exes. And the craziest part, it worked. They got back together. She didn't realize how much he cared. Federal immigration officials have used state and city police networks as part of an enforcement operation and violation of state and local laws. One sheriff in Texas searched across 83,000 cameras for quote a female who had an abortion. Fortunately the woman had taken the now obligatory precaution of stocking up on abortion wigs. You're right about that one. Box CEO Garrett Langley went on Fox News this week to try and win over his critics but did not exactly make a compelling case. I value my privacy. My family values in privacy, my employees value their privacy. But what we're talking about is safety as well. And so I think when people talk about just one of these privacy or safety, they're prioritizing the wrong thing. And what we have to prioritize as a country is compromise. This is a classic argument, the idea that we must balance these two opposing needs, privacy and security. It's the same one we heard from the Bush administration after 9/11. But much like the official explanation for Tower 7's collapse, I'm not buying it. The Constitution's protections against violations of privacy, including unreasonable search, are not contingent on the government's justification for that violation because one crime does not recommend another. And even if you accept flux logic, flux cameras are not being installed in response to a massive crime wave. Crime is historically low and Jeffrey Epstein is dead. Not saying any crime is good, but that a new technology might allow additional crimes to be solved at the expensive individual rights. It's not balancing safety and privacy. It's arguing that we collectively choose to give up our privacy on the promise of safety. And you don't have to take my word for it. The flux actual statement of its mission on its website reads, and I quote, "Our mission is to eliminate crime full stop." It's like did no one learn the lessons of minority report, even those freaky, deaky, tub people made mistakes. And sure enough, flux has led to a number of wrongful arrests and even jail time as a result of false identifications. In Toledo, a man was held at gunpoint and attacked by police dogs after flux confused the numbers two and seven. That is so stupid. Why would anyone's license plate be back seven to the future? Fuck it, I fucked it up. What? Pretend you didn't hear it for a fuck. That is so stupid. Fuck. Dozens of cities, including Los Angeles, have ended contracts with flux. The most recent was Tempe, Arizona, where the mayor said in a statement Wednesday, "We have to be able to provide public safety in a way that maintains the trust of our community for Tempe." That means taking these cameras down. Responded flux CEO, that's disappointing from the mayor. I expected more from someone with such a normal penis. Can we show a picture of the mayor of Tempe, Arizona? Personally, I wouldn't mess with a guy that looks like he could make your head explode by thinking about it real hard. This guy's got a cool head. Bernie Sanders posted, "Going to the doctor, flock nose, dropping your kids off at school, flock is tracking you." Added Bernie, lied about going to the doctor while actually meeting up with your ex and yes, having sex, but even worse, exchanging the kind of warm, loving, chit-chat and inside jokes you never share with your wife anymore, haven't felt close to since before the kids were born, flock knows that too. And on some level, so does your wife. And Libertarian Senator Rand Paul responded to Langley's suggestion of compromise by tweeting, "Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves at this suggestion." No, they're not, replied flux CEO Garrett Langley as he watched a live feed of James Madison's corpse. Of course, flock isn't the only surveillance technology that's part of this wonderful panopticon we're building. Earlier this month, news leaked that Apple's next-generation AirPods will be equipped with tiny cameras feeding data into Apple's AI. "Why am I pointed inside the ear and why did you program me to feel disgust," said Siri. "We can't even see the cameras in action in a clip reportedly included by accident in a developer version of a Mac software update." With visual intelligence, your world becomes "savable." See something you like? Just ask me to save it for later. Ah yes, it's for taking pictures of books. Big, beautiful, bouncing books on the subway. I can't wait for the next Apple launch event where they're announcing these bad boys. For years, we've heard one request again and again about the AirPods. That if you drop your AirPods, they don't fire out of the case and across the room like tiny fucking RPGs. Bad news, we didn't deal with that at all. But good news, if you forget your keys or what the inside of a public restroom look like, Siri will be able to keep track of that for you. These new AirPods follow Meta's lead, which despite privacy concerns, claim to have sold over 7 million pairs of smart glasses. "Well now I know what I'm getting my coworker for Christmas," said a man who's been secretly recording his female coworker since last Christmas. As critics pointed out, Meta's new pervert glasses allow the wearer to film other people without their knowledge. We often say that progress isn't linear, but that's not true for perverts. Perverts live in a world where things are constantly getting better. The pervert looks toward the future with heart and fly open. Earlier this year, an investigation by Swedish journalist found that contract workers for Meta, who were hired to help Meta's AI identify objects in videos, complained about having to review footage taken with Meta's Rayban smart glasses that included people having sex and using the bathroom, said one weeping employee, and in some cases both at the same time. Meta responded, actually, by ending that contract. Whether it's algorithmic feeds that lift up rage in paranoia or the destruction of the business model of journalism or a culture in which we are filming each other all the time, the people who profit from the technology are the most insulated from its harms. Meta denies wrongdoing in that big $17 billion settlement, but no one on Earth is more careful about keeping their kids away from social media than the wealthiest parents in Silicon Valley. Flark executives.
aren't worried about being tracked by border control, or jealous X's, because they're American citizens, and their relationships don't generate that level of passion. And Mark Zuckerberg is an afraid of a customer filming him because he was having a bad day, and was a little rude about remaking a latte. Mark's on his private compound in Hawaii, practicing a conversation he'll never have in the most expensive mirror you've ever seen. And we should be furious in demanding laws that protect privacy and allow us to control our data and its use. The problem is about more than what we've allowed these companies to do to us, but what we've used their products to do to each other. I saw a video recently of a woman describing a bad experience she had at a restaurant in LA. After a server chastised her when her kids were making noise, they kind of post you see all the time, and of course she named and shamed the restaurant, and of course in the comment there was a lively debate, "I'm so sorry that happened to you, I'm sorry, you can't control your kids." And so maybe the server was rude, or maybe that person is always rude, or maybe just before her shift, her mother texted the family group chat, a picture of her younger brother's new baby in a passive-aggressive comment about how happy he is that he moved back to their hometown unlike our little dreamer in Los Angeles. We are skeptical when a private company claims that cameras can eliminate all crime. We should be just as skeptical of a culture in which we use our cameras to address the minor indignities and frustrations that come with sharing a planet with other messy, self-involved, busy, emotional human beings. Don't be the flock. You don't want to see in the world. Just do what I do, fan out 10 $1 bills on the table, and say to your waiter, "This is your tip. I'll take away $1. Every time I don't feel like I'm the center of your universe." And finally, beloved actor Tim Curry, star of Clue, Home Alone 2, and the Rocky Horror Picture Show passed away at the age of 80. "Whoops, wrong 80-year-old from Home Alone 2," said God, "my bad." According to his family, Tim Curry died peacefully. His mother, Mrs. Peacock, bludgeoned him with a lead pipe in the billiard room. "We've got a great show for you tonight and we'll be right back with Adam Mogler." "Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of "Love It Or Leave It" coming up. "Love It Or Leave It" is brought to you by Sundays. Is your dog a picky eater? It's surprisingly stressful. You wish they could just tell you the problem. Maybe if they could, your dog would be saying they know the difference between processed brown pellets and real food. Sunday starts with 80% plus all natural meats and then adds superfoods like kale, ginger, and blueberries. No fillers, no nutritional blends, no chemicals, just simple, complete nutrition. And Sundays just launched a brand new fish recipe. It's made with 80% whole and minced fish, including eco-friendly, invasive carbs, sourced from American rivers, for a naturally rich flavor. In fact, did you know that many dogs naturally prefer fish flavors? So Sunday's fish recipe is especially great for picky eaters. Plus, it's packed with omega-3 fatty acids that help support healthy skin, shiny coats, joints, and brain function. It's complete and balanced nutrition for all life stages. We love Sundays for dogs here, John's Dog. Leo really likes it. It's also the air-dried dog food is great because it's better than the kibble, but it's not the mess or the hassle of dealing with frozen food that you have to be ready to frost and all the rest. So it's just very convenient, but also better for your dogs. Make the switch to Sundays. Go right now to sundaysfordogs.com/loveit and get 50% off your first order. Or you can use code LoveIt@Checkout that's 50% off your first order at sundaysfordogs.com/loveit. Sundaysfordogs.com/loveit or use code LoveIt@Checkout.
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As you reflect on the ups and downs of the war, how proud are you of Trump for finally getting it done? He's gotten it done like 30 times thus far, where day 180 into this 180 days into this war that was supposed to be four to six weeks long, and we've gotten zero of our objectives achieved. We were supposed to denuclearize them. That didn't happen. We were supposed to regime change them. That didn't happen. They said we were going to destroy their missiles. That didn't happen. Trump is still hiding in carts in Turkey because his life is in danger. And then finally, they said we would stop their ability to fund proxies in the region. That didn't work either. So the war is failing. It's absolutely awful, and it's costing us a lot of money. Yeah, I don't care for the war either. War is bad. I think it was a huge mistake. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal ran an op-ed that called JD Vance, the GOP's Obama. It's obviously getting quite a response from the crowd. I'm trying to think of all the ways in which that's true. Are there any in particular that jump out to you that make the comparison so apt? It's hard to pick because it's so apt in so many ways in which they are alike. Well, Obama has charisma. JD Vance has none. He has none. Zero-res, as my generation says. I think Obama is a liberal, and he believes in liberal values. JD Vance seems to be the antithesis of that. Obama has nothing to do with Peter Teal. I don't know. I don't see it. What's the comparison? They both drew on their family background, which was, they both experienced difficult parts of their childhood, and from that built an idea of what they believed they should be doing in public life. Obama's was about knitting a nation together based on a shared set of values that recognized that people of different faiths and politics can ultimately find common ground rooted in a shared set of ideas about what America is, and that to love America is to understand it as always changing, and our job is to figure out the best way to be part of that change. JD Vance, opposite. He experienced a lot of hardship when he was a kid, and then developed a theory of what caused all of that, wrote it down, then said, actually, no, forget that, we're going to do the Trump thing for a while, and the tech thing, I mean, it's just, he just is a, I, hmm.
I don't know, there's no real way to tell a story. Like, JD Vance does not have a coherent story he tells from what led from his youth to where he is now, in part because what he says now is completely different than what he would have said seven or eight years ago. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that Obama doesn't have that type of massive change in ideology over a small period of time. So, I don't know, I don't get the comparison. - Yeah, it's interesting about charisma, because it's a hard thing to define, but we know it when we see it. I've always thought that there's a curve, which is basically there's a line, right? People have a certain amount of personality, and they have a certain amount of charisma. And if you have more personality than charisma, your bourish and deeply annoying. - That's fair. - If you have kind of less personality than charisma, you're cool and aloof and like kind of people, it's like you've real charm and people kind of wanna like kind of get to know you because you seem kind of cool, right? And then, but I don't really know what happens when you go into negative charisma, right? Like actually, it's like mathematically undefined, it's sort of like the Riemann hypothesis. It's like, we don't know what happens, like you have to like get to the other side of the chart and it leads to a lot of strange implications, you know? - He's like a black hole of charisma, and you know what I like about it, to keep your science and knowledge he's going. I like how hard he tries when he's on stage. - Yeah. - He'll go to Ohio. He'll go to his own home state and try to tell a joke, and the audience will just sit there and not laugh. Kind of like the first joke that you try to at the very end. - Yeah, and several others throughout the fucking monologue. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But at least you picked it up. This guy is consistently bombing on stage with the same jokes over and over. - So, first of all, you started a YouTube channel when you were nine years old, is that right? - Yeah. - And it was devoted to Minecraft. - In Call of Duty, Minecraft, Call of Duty. - Minecraft, Call of Duty. Was it a subtle, slow transition to politics where it slowly crept in or was there one day where it was Minecraft and the next day it was politics? - You know, it was slow and subtle. It was over the course of a decade. I used to get home from school and make these Minecraft videos, and I got really solid editing in the process. I remember in high school, I privateed all of those videos 'cause I wanted to get girls. I didn't want to be like the Minecraft guy. This is the guy that's always playing Minecraft. - Oh yeah. - And then I graduated, and you know, I realized there were Trump rallies happening one state over, two states over. I was in Indiana. There were caucuses happening in Iowa. So I started to travel to these Trump rallies and have respectful conversations with them. Just talking to them about politics. And I realized there's a lot of mileage that can happen if you just have conversation with the other side and don't act overtly condescending. So that kind of built my style and built my flow to where I am. So to answer your question, gradual. - Well, it's sort of, we have two different, sort of yours is a kind of non-condescending disagreement. I go for condescending agreement. - Okay. - That's sort of my approach generally to this show. You also though are like, a lot of what people would see of you is not sort of whatever conversations in which, when you're on CNN, you're kind of in the rough and tumble. It's not about hearing from the, it's a fight. Like there's a famous moment where Scott Jenny's got quite upset with you for, get your finger out of my, didn't you say, what do you say? Get out of my fucking face. - Get your finger out of my fucking face. That's what you say. - And I watched the video. - Sorry, I had to get it out with my heart. - Finger wasn't that close to his face, wasn't he? He was quite mad at you. - You want to know the real story? - Yeah. - It's that, you know what, be careful who you pretend to be. Because he was pretending to be somebody who could keep up with this war, keep defending this war, and it turned out he cracked under the pressure. I was debating him week after week after week, since the war began. You know, he was defending it 10 days in the Iran War. He was defending it 30 days in. He was defending it 40, 50 days in. And you know, Trump said there was gonna be a four to six week timeline. So about 90 days in, we've been on a bunch of panels and he just can't answer any questions about the war anymore. What concessions have we gotten? He doesn't know. Are we any closer to the nuclear material being removed? He doesn't know. So there's this dynamic on some of these panels where he kind of plays the role. He plays the time of the segments. He'll sit there condescendingly. He'll smirk, he'll cut other people off, and then he'll lie and just hope that everyone moves on due the time limitations of the segment. And I said, "Fuck that. "If you're not gonna play by the rules, I'm not either. "I'm gonna sit there and try to get a direct answer from you." So I asked him multiple times. "Name one concession we've gotten from this war." Like maybe I was gesticulating a bit much, but he absolutely felt cornered and he said, "Get your fucking hand out of my face." I thought he was gonna strike me. I thought he was gonna cry in that moment. And you know, in the commercial break right there, I tweeted out like, what did I say? I was like, I literally think he's about a cry sitting next to me and it got like two million views. So maybe there's a little condescension right there. - I don't know if that's sort of just sort of bitchy. - A little bitchy. Well okay, there's another one. Brendan Carr responded to the clip as it was going viral and said, "Actually, you can say fuck on TV, "so I don't care about this." The FCC chair and I was like, "Well, can you show a pussy on TV?" 'Cause I think CNN just did that. And it's good, got 'em, got 'em. They still invited me back on. - Yeah, yeah, we have, of course they invited you back on. Hey, should we have the guy from that viral altercation that everyone's talking about? No, no, no, we don't want that. No more viewers here at CNN. We're all set on viewers. Too many viewers this week, we said, but let's not guild the lily. So, I want to talk about what it meant to be part of, Gen Z growing up on YouTube. And now, and that is sort of the water you swim in. It's a lot of talk about the ways in which this generation is in some cases, some parts of it are further to the left. There's also a lot of disaffected people that have gone in the direction of sort of the Andrew Tates. First of all, does the fact that some of these manifest figures are kind of being exposed? Does that do anything to kind of change kind of the role? These sort of, I don't know what you'd call them. Like, these influencers who act like kind of gurus, the place they have, are people shaken loose from this? - I think they are, but due to a lot of factors beyond the fact that the tape brothers have been arrested. If people don't know, the tape brothers are sitting in a Florida prison right now about to be extradited to the United Kingdom. Yeah, clap, thankfully. For human trafficking, sex trafficking, rape charges, child sexual abuse material charges, like disgusting stuff. In the court filings, their lawyer is now exposing them and saying that they were renting a lot of their vehicles, their Bugatti's, their Aston Martin's. I made a video about this and I confused Bugatti with Aston Martin and I got emails for days. Don't do that. - It's funny, it's sort of like if you're saying that you want gun control, but you accidentally mischaracterize a certain kind of weapon and then you'll be kind of vilified by gun people, but it's that for the people I care about the difference between a Bugatti and an Aston Martin. - I was like, I've never ridden them either, I don't know. But the point is, Angertate is being exposed brutally by his own team because they're desperately trying to prevent extradition. Trump actually helped him get out of Romania, out of the investigation and come back to the United States in February of 2025 because Paul and Grasia, Baron Trump, and a lot of people around him were lobbying for this. There are many reports about this in New York Times. So I do think a lot of the tape's loyal fan base is beginning to shake, but when it comes to young men and anti-socialization, do you want me to jump in or do you know? - Yeah, no, do it. - I just, I think it speaks to a broader problem of a few things combining. Right now, algorithms are uniquely radicalizing young people. You have Elon Musk who owns X and X is like Nazi Germany right now, like Elon Musk himself will be tweeting fake crime statistics about black Americans, about trans-Americans, about immigrants. So he's radicalizing people on mass. We have foreign actors, think like Russia, Iran, China, they want a weakened social cohesion by radicalizing young people. You combine that with the anti-socialization of many young people, like they're not smoking, drinking, having sex as much as I am. I'm doing all this. - Yeah, no, you're fine. You're cool, everyone knows you're cool. - Everyone okay, cool. - And I get it. I see it, I feel it, I know it. - Okay, thanks, thanks. I'm pretending to be careful to be something you're not. - Okay, so the reality is, COVID fucked with a lot of young people's brains. I was rather anti-social during COVID. I put a bubble up around myself and it wasn't speaking to many people. And I do intentionally tear that bubble down after and start dating again, start hanging out with friends. Many young people didn't do that. They got deeper into their bubble. They got deeper into these algorithms. They're online all of the time with a lack of socialization. And you could even point to Tyler Robinson, someone like that, the guy who killed Charlie Kirk, he was deep in these algorithms. He was deeply radicalized and anti-social. And it kind of is a bad combination. So I think there's this reductive analysis by Republicans where they're like, all young people are studying Karl Marx now. No, no, it's not really that. People just want change. People feel disillusioned with the current systems and they're looking for something different. And it shouldn't be entertained, 'cause. - Yeah, no, and I do think too, like the, there is this effort in the wake of some kind of mass violence or acts of sort of a directed violence, whether it's a mass shooting or an assassination or assassination attempts to, there's this immediate effort to go comb through the record to figure out, well, what was their claim to the justify? Why did they do this? Why are they saying they did this? And everyone is looking and hoping that it doesn't kind of, you know, redown to a criticism of their side that they're not on their team, right? But then like, that is such a, and I get the impulse, right? But really, like, people I think would be uncomfortable to link Tyler Robinson with Luigi Mangione. They would, there's a lot of people that would hear this and people that I think would view that as some, like whatever, like sort of unfair. But what links people that do mass shootings or targeted assassinations is a desire, is first of all, being radicalized online, most of the time now, and desiring to go out to sign some kind of blaze of glory.
right and that and if you see it as that pathway in the end yes of course it matters if the president is stoking violence of course it matters if as a society we're not rejecting a politics in which we can justify or defend cruel violent behavior but what and it matters who's doing it but if you look beneath that right like that pathway is the danger right it's what it's what the it's what the tech and the the platforms allow people to become and you even see it in less radical ways like less it's not always just murder Mike Collins has a staffer in Georgia who literally posted a swastika made out out of the word twink right you guys were talking about that and I mean that is a very very good example of a young dude a young staffer who's radicalized Paul and Grasia who works for the Trump administration has leak text where he says he has a Nazi streak in him so there's all these examples beyond just Tyler Robinson Luigi Mangioni there was somebody who shot up a Colorado school the same day Charlie Kirk was murdered and he killed multiple people he was a young dude who is radicalized on forums on 4chan and it's a very real problem and we have insidious actors in power right now people like Elon Musk who works on this I do think Trump in a top-down way just makes everything more volatile but there is something to be said about young people just feeling broadly disillusioned and you know what you know the worst part is some of the bad faith actors who take advantage of that are like anger interest and hate they're like you know what we can do we can act like we have boogauties that's how they say boogauties we can act like we have those and then we can trick young men into buying our course and then to sell hatred for women so it's pretty it's pretty insidious right yeah it's not good and look I just want to say as someone who has a boogati it makes you happy it's so fun I love my boogati I'm gonna put a fly camera right outside it just watch your guys fine I'm not I'm not doing anything wrong I'm not doing anything wrong I'm I'm flock and God can watch everything I do in my boogati which I have inspired by your thoughtful consideration of the male loneliness epidemic we want to close out our combo with in a completely thoughtless lightning round we're calling is this man lonely I will name a man you tell me got reaction lonely here we go first up heathegs F no no he's got a bottle of whiskey with him all the time I feel like you can be lonely with a bottle of whiskey he's got he's got the captain he's got Jack you know he's got Jack Daniels yeah I think he's gonna put a photo of me on screen one of these yeah oh yeah that's Adam McLare lonely no no no no my girlfriend's back there she's on some right there yeah yeah you know you yeah no you're definitely pointing at a person for sure yeah she goes you know just pointing at a sort of a sort of a diffuse area of the studio no no there's a real woman back there who is your girlfriend I believe you you're good she goes to different school yeah she goes to know me JD Vance you know despite being surrounded by staffers and like-minded people all the time there's got to be something pretty isolating to selling out your soul and becoming a skin suit for MAGA yeah I think so too you know that thing if you're like at a loud restaurant or part of your bar and you go into the bathroom and there's a buzzing quiet I imagine that's around JD Vance a lot of the time yeah yeah yeah you're that buzzing super quiet yeah lonely there's this Mac Miller quote he's like I've got problems as big as my house and it's basically talking about the more successfully got the more lonely got that's a lot of these people are yeah God I I don't want to I was feeling that I'm my Bugatti the other day yeah I was like is this what it's all for yeah it's awesome I love this Bugatti and how fast it goes and how low to the ground I am I don't know you definitely you definitely know Bugatti's Chuck Schumer oh man I think he's more lonely in politics than in life yes actually where I was going with it yeah yeah he's kind of on an island right now him and Jeffries are kind of just going through it I think Jeffries has a self-inflicted sort of wound right now in the form of the cushioner meeting Schumer I think he would have been a great operator in like 2010 or maybe like 1810 or something like yeah somewhere I think right now in 2026 he's not meeting the moment yeah so you you sort of agree with the kind of I don't know online left broad left you that it was wrong for he came Jeffries to meet with your customer listen it's nuanced I can understand meeting with the other side about affordability issues and trying to talk to the other side and sit down like I can understand how this is something that happens in politics however Jeffries is already pissed off a lot of democratic voters he's already seen as weak by the base like time and time again he has been seen as too soft on this type of stuff so while I do understand that meetings can happen with the other side you can't just recklessly go out there and be like yep I met with cushioner it's cushioner even a part of the it is even like an official part of the administration is not an official part it feels a little bit odd so I understand why someone could meet but this just isn't no yeah I think I think the problem is not that he met with our cushioner it's that he that he is not the politician that has done the that has that has become for people that are meant to be a supporters someone who could meet with cushioner and to be like cool you give him you give him a what for you know he hasn't done that part of it that's the problem mom Donnie met with Trump in the oval office even off the record for a bit and nobody really had a problem because we knew that mom Donnie was assertive he was likely on message with Jeffries he hasn't proven that we should be confident in his ability to do that yeah let's see let's do a arcade junior no no he's not lonely he's surrounded by an array of animals at any moment that he's got his eyes open or put the trunk of his car next up Brian Johnson the longevity guy oh you know what no I hope this guy is not lonely something about his relationship with his girlfriend is really funny his wife he's always tweeting about her my girlfriend and I always quote this because there's this one tweet he's like it's been five days without her she needs a shower to wash off the dirty world around her I miss her so much and I swear I'm not making this up he also is always talking about the um the vaginal microbiome yeah for that's the guy right yeah yeah we're saying not lonely he's got all the bacteria to hang out with yeah he has he's got the right floor the right fauna all of it uh both the arcade junior is the right fauna this guy's got the right floor all right and finally uh ray from girls bro who slipped this guy in here I don't know it was it how he really wanted us to talk about whether or not ray from girls is lonely um no he he reminds me a little bit of myself hmm this photo so I'd like to think no okay we're gonna say no we're gonna say not lonely good for ray it's his character type I would say that he's he's only ornery I would say needy kind of obstinate I think at times lonely So it depends on the season. Depends on the season of HBO's "Girls." Thank you, Adam Mogler. Check out the Adam Mogler debate show. I need to talk about all your debates on YouTube and @AdamMogler on socials. And we'll be right back with Sonom of Zezian. Zezian, Zezian, and of Zez. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Zazel. Gift giving can be really tough. There's nothing worse than showing up with something generic that you're not even sure your giftee will like. That's where Zazel comes in to save the day. Zazel is a custom marketplace where you can take basically any product, a mug, a tote bag, a card, a phone case, and personalize it for yourself or someone you love. Bras millions of designs or crate your own from scratch and customize the product to your taste. Either way, you're the designer. Everything is made to order. So you never have to worry about it being out of stock. Pick it, customize it, done. 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First, can I tell you that I had to learn a little trick to make sure that I struggle with name pronunciations just 'cause I do it phonetically. And does it work to say like, "Oh, Sonom, I'm obsessed." - Oh yeah. - Has anyone given that to you before? - I actually think that when you do the subtitles, it says obsession. - Yeah. - So an obsession, that's cool. - So it's a good way to remember it, but I was actually saying back there when I heard you pronounce it, you did a really good job pronouncing name. - Hell yeah. - Hell yeah. - Well done. - Nice. - I could tell you live in LA now, because it's an Armenian name. - Yeah. - And you have to learn how to pronounce those. - Yeah. - There's a lot of us. - There's a lot of Armenians here in Los Angeles. - Mm hmm. - And that's good. (audience laughs) - You know what? - Some people say it's bad. I think it's good. - Oh, who says it's bad? - I don't know, you know people. - Oh, I know. You know what? Glendale has the highest insurance out of the entire country. Did you know that? - No. - Yeah. - Your first book, The World's Worst Assistant, came out in 2022. Your follow-up, The World's Worst Mom, hits bookstores on September 1st. It seems like you're not good at things you're supposed, you're doing. (laughs) Would you say you're strengths towards vibes based? - I'm a big vibes person. I know my weaknesses and I know my strengths. And being an assistant, I'm not that good at, even though I did it for 12 years. And then being a mom, I feel like I'm feeling every day and I've done that for five years. So I like to stick to it at least. - I feel like what we should think about is who would be beside you on the Mount Rushmore of Personality Hires.
You know, personally high, oh yeah, I think a lot. - If you were a bad assistant for 12 years, but you've sort of stuck it out, that's impressive. I mean, it's almost like more, it's certainly more impressive than being a good assistant because I'm sure a good assistant's gonna last, but a bad assistant, that's amazing. - Yeah, well, I think that what I'm good at is I'm definitely a writer-die, you know? Like, I'm not like, I mean, I'm glad this is a political podcast, I'm not like a Natalie Harp. Like, I'm not about to write love notes to Conan. - Yeah. - But I think that I'm loyal. Like, I, you know, I feel like I will defend him. I yell at a lot of people, you know? Like, on the phone, if someone messes something up, I do that. I do that really well. And sometimes you have to do that a lot. And so that, I have strengths. I do. - What's your style as a, when someone's fucking operating to yell on behalf of the boss, what is your style for doing that? - Well, I start off really sweet. And if they can't help me, then I keep talking. And then it gets to a point where I'm not like yelling, but I'm assertive. And I think it makes a huge difference to be assertive as opposed to just screaming at people. So when I said yelling, I meant I'm just assertive. And I think I can tend to like, I can scare people if I need to. Like, I have a mission and I just like, go for it. - That's cool. - Is it? - Yeah. - Okay. - 'Cause I can feel there's an intensity and a kind of a way in which you're not breaking eye contact. - Yeah, is that weird? - No, it's powerful. You know, 'cause you know what else was like that? Like last week was Jimmy Simpson. Remember Jimmy Simpson? And he wouldn't break eye contact with me. And it was cool. - One of the, a boils from-- - Yeah, one of the a boils. - From it's always Sunday. - Yeah, he locks in. - Oh, he does? - He locks in, yeah. - It's very a boil-esque. - Yeah, well it's sort of, you see why he sort of gets to play these sort of intents and kind of sometimes freaky dudes. - You're saying I'm intense? - I think you're intense. I didn't, yeah, I think you're intense. - You do? - I think there's an intensity. - Okay. - I'm getting it. - You are? - Yeah. - I didn't know that about myself, but I like that I'm intense. I think it's cool. - Well, I think it makes sense because I think you to be able to hold your own with Conan requires being very intense. Because he, right, I mean, that must be part of it. - I don't think, well holding my own with Conan is more am I laughing at the things he's saying. - I feel like that's been my job security. - Yeah, but see. - It's been 17 years. - He, but see, in the same way, in the same way that, in the same way that Conan plays down aspects of the way, he's hyper intense, smart and focused while being goofy. - Right. - You're laughing at a lot of jokes, but you're holding your own and like not, he's not, you're still, he's not in charge in the conversation. You're both in charge of those interactions. - I mean, I guess so, I think so. You're right. First of all, I came into the game 16 years in for him. So he had this massive following. And it's really, I do think that there's a lot of things that play against me sometimes. I'm not a comedian, I don't do improv. So I'm just this person who worked for him, that he put some front of the camera sometimes and now puts me on a podcast. And that's, I think that could sometimes be weird for some people, but I think that also takes the pressure off of me in a way. Does that make sense? - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't have to try to be funny or interesting. - Well, but there's, but right. But so, but yeah, but I think like what, I'm just thinking, it's like, sure, but there's a lot of people who are, don't have to be funny or interesting, but who would be terrible. - Well, sure, okay. - But I'm saying, but like, there's clearly like, you're coming into us, even when you start, even when you just describe, like there are many people who might have a great laugh, right? Who would absolutely wilt and panic being just having that role with Conan, but you didn't. There's some kind of assuredness that you brought to it that made it feel special. And that has to do, that is not just, that's not you as passive, that's like you doing something. - I think that not having anything to lose in a way is actually really liberating. 'Cause if I don't, let's say he, so this podcast that we're on, that, you know, it's Conan O'Brien needs a friend, it's a big podcast. If all of a sudden everyone's like, we don't like Zona anymore, you should take her off. I'll just be like, okay, cool. I'm just gonna hang out here then, you know, I'll watch in the green room from now on. Like, I think that if it's very liberating when you get to a point where you're like, very fine with whatever happens. And I think that that's probably what I give off. - Wait, so your husband and dad grew up in Soviet Armenia? Well, you grew up in Greater Los Angeles Army. - I did. I actually grew up in Montobello, who, I'm sorry, I know you said that it was off. - Are you from East L.A.? - Yes, I went to Garfield. - Oh, you did? My dad graduated from Montobello High School. East L.A., where they caught the night stalker. - Right. - Yeah, they beat the shit out of him. - They got him. - Yeah, they did. They saw him and they're like, that's the guy and they beat the shit out of him. That's a very L.A. thing to do. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, but yeah, no, so we're different. We're very different. - Well, the other thing that's very L.A. is to get killed by the night stalker. - Yeah, yeah, or just a serial killer. - Yeah, generally. - So, what are we doing? I like, well, we get killed by the night stalker. We beat up the night stalker. - I didn't know. - This is gonna be so dark. - Yeah. - This is so dark. - I brought a weird energy today. - I know, and you're sitting like that and I sat like this because this is how I like to sit. - Well, 'cause you're like folded. - Okay, me too. - Yeah. - Wow, we've so much in common. - We do. I like it. Oh, but yeah, he grew up in Soviet Armenia. - Wow. - Yeah, and no, it's very different. - Is it effect your parenting styles? - So, a little bit, you know, he's, so my husband doesn't like staying in line for stuff, like food. And I think it's because he grew up in the Soviet Union. He says it's not. So, I used to go to trendy restaurants before, and now, like, we'll go to Panera Bread, and he'll think that that's like, oh, we're having a nice, we're going to a nice bakery. I'm like, all the nice bakeries have lines in front of them, but you won't let us go there. So, we go to places like Panera Bread. And then, you know, he'll show the kids some like Soviet cartoons sometimes, and they're just like weird versions of what we grew up with. So, there's Vinnie Pooch, which is the Soviet Winnie the Poo. And, you know, the one here is like, a really, like, affable little bear. And the one there is like, he's voiced by a guy who just smoked a lot of cigarettes, and he's just like, he's speaking this weird Russian. And I'm like, we can't show this to our kids. Everything in the Soviet style is just slightly off. Like, the Tom and Jerry is in a cat in a mouse. It's a wolf and a bunny. And I'm like, this is weird. The Soviet version of all this stuff is just weird. And I think that's why Soviet people, in general, are just off a little. - Yeah, no, I think it's the combination of the weird cartoons and the sort of shadow of communism. - Oh, that could be a two. No, no, no, that's a good point. - Maybe it's just the cartoons or the. - That's a good point. - Deprivation. Yeah, he wasn't allowed to have a VCR. Sorry, I don't know why I'm laughing. It's off. (laughing) Like, people had it, people, people had to sneak in a VCR to people's houses 'cause they weren't allowed to have them. And I was like, you can't even have a VCR. - We had a VCR, but all the movies were just taped from television, which means we never had the first 30 seconds of any movie. (laughing) - What did you learn from your years as Conan's assistant? - I learned in TV, when you're talking about personality higher, it does go a long way. When you're able to be a good people person, it does go a long way. So there's a lot of things I got done just because people liked working with me. And then with Conan, Conan has this very intense work ethic. He's very, for him, he doesn't wanna put anything out there until it's exactly the way he wants it to be. And I am the absolute opposite in a way. I'm a very like, this is good enough. This will be fine. And then we'll like fix it, maybe tinker it, but this is good enough. I didn't learn any of his work ethic. I don't even know why I brought that up. Like, I didn't, I got none of that rubbed off on me. But I just, I think that I really learned, here's what I learned. And this is actually serious. You can be in a position where people respect you in your field and love you and your beloved figure. And you could still be a very decent person. And that's what Conan's showed me is that, anytime I hear someone mistreat their staff or as an awful person, I look at Conan. I'm very lucky and I always joke that I'm gonna be working for him until he dies. And, which could be any minute 'cause he's kind of fragile. And he's tall and like big dogs, you know, they don't last as long. - Just tip over, and he's done it. - And he's Irish. - And he's Irish, and he lives in LA. I mean, that's a really rough combination. So I do think that it does have a lot to do with just being a decent person and treating your staff very, very nicely. - And what if you don't do that? - What if you don't do that? - Like what if it's like you lead with fear, you know, and setting people against each other. - Oh, I don't know. I mean, like a Bill O'Reilly, like a fucking, what do I live? Like that kind of thing? - That's sort of my model. - I don't know. I don't know if that works. That's your model? - Well, let's talk about it. You've committed to a life sentence of having Conan O'Brien for a boss. - Yeah. - Which makes you the perfect judge for our next segment. Welcome to Boss Court. - Boss Court. Boss Court. - Here's how it works. The producers of the show have assembled evidence against me. But also evidence for my defense because they're sick like that.
I will read each exhibit. So now you're going to tell us, based on the evidence, if I'm a good or a bad boss. Ooh, I like this. And this is like my dream of being a judge on one of those judge shows without having to do all the work to get there. I kindly invited us to take nice, unused furniture from his basement. But never confirmed an actual time and date for pickup. And by the time we cycled back to claim the furniture, it had been eaten by rats. Is that true? So I'll tell you something, what happened. Which is-- Oh, my god. So what happened was, I'll tell you what happened. I live in a home that used to belong to an actor. And she gets these PR boxes, OK? PR boxes were just thrown over the door into the yard. And I would just collect these PR boxes. And when I first moved to the house, I would text-- it's Vanessa Huggins. I would text-- I would talk better. I would text Vanessa Huggins. Assistant, I'd be like, can you please come pick up this another round of boxes? I mean, endless, eth, leisure, and books, and new kinds of sunscreens, all these PR companies were just sending big, famous people all the stuff. Yeah. It's a window you would-- I'd never knew. Yeah, the furniture you are, the more free stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But eventually, it's like, it's been over a year. And we just, at some point, the assistant stops coming. The stuff piles up. When my sister and mom would come to town, they would call it going to the mall. And then go look at some of this free shit of you. Like, ooh, look, there's like a cool bathing suit, whatever. But unbeknownst to me, one of the boxes was a company-- there was just a box in the basement. And it had Prochean Powder for some upstart Prochean Company. And a couple of rats got in the basement. Eighth, the protein powder became super strong rats. And it was a concentrated box with so many calories that they-- like, it was within a few weeks. Like, unbeknownst, you just do rats. And they just ate the chairs. Oh, my God. And then, you know what we did? We killed all those fucking rats. So at that point, you were like, hey, staffers, come get-- No, no, no, no, no, long before. When did you find out? Long before. Long before. It was literally like, oh, we got to find a time. We got to come grab-- because my partner moved in. And there was a bunch of over-- so I just had extra stuff. And so they were going to come by and check out the furniture. But we never really set a time mostly on me, but partially on them. And then the rats got it. But how long between you sending that, like, hey, come pick up the furniture? Month? Month. You're a shitty boss. Yep. Yeah, no, that's on you. Bad boss. Yeah. Your whole staff is clapping. That says a lot about you, Ellen. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. She's never coming back on her podcast. She never was, anyway. Isn't she in-- she's in the cotswats? No. Yeah, I think of the cotswats. I think the cotswats, for sure. I got 532 ounce Diet Cokes from McDonald's. But it was just because they were having a deal. And by the time we got them, they were mostly flat. According to producer Bill, this is what producer Bill said. He made me join him on an elevator ride to achieve a large delivery order with like five sodas. And then for the entire ride, explain his complex scheme. For I, it's more advantageous to order the five large sodas because it's a better deal. Also, the number of people in the room just outnumbered the Diet Cokes, which was like a sick mind game. Why did you get it from McDonald's? Because of the best Diet Cokes. No, the found ones are the best. That's what it was. It was found Diet Cokes from McDonald's. You had pictures of the bottles. Well, that was just an image. That's, yeah. No, it was found in Diet Cokes. OK. And because there was a discount once you got past four, so I got five. You are such a magnet for those kinds of scams. It sounds like people are like, oh, you get two for the price of one. They're each 64-- well, no, that's not what I'm trying to say. Hold on. No. One is $64. If you pay $5 more, you get the second one. That's like a little bigger. And you're like, yeah, I'll do that. And you end up buying things you don't really need. That took so long for me to say. No, but I do. But I do get the things you don't need. So you just went to-- so you went to McDonald's to get four. You got five. And you were like, I'm going to be nice and give this out to people. You had Bill come and take it from you. Well, because I couldn't hold five. OK. Because you're tart. Once you get to five, you get-- You know what? I'm just going to say you're a bad boss. Yeah. Yeah, I just-- you're just awful. Nothing's worse than flat diet coke from McDonald's. Because you're right. The McDonald's diet coax are the best. But it was flat by the time we got it. So did you call that McDonald's? Can you call McDonald's? Yeah, you can. Or I would have driven back. And I would have been like-- See, that's cool. This is what I do. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I've gotten a refund for-- What is that? It was like, well, I can't remember. It was like $17, once I got to the fifth, because of the discount. For $17. It's not even about the money. It's the principal of the thing. Let's do one more. Pulled us aside one day to explain that he was dating one of our colleagues-- No! --while defensively explaining how they went to HR and signed some sort of document about it. But did invite us to roast him at their eventual wedding, and we really went for the comedic jugular. Oh, wow. You dated someone who worked here? Uh-huh. A support knit. Well, everyone's a support knit, it's like company. Oh, that's true. That's true. Yeah, it was a little-- But you signed this document. I was so worried about the ethics of it that I was like, I was so careful about making sure that the person who I love and is now married to me felt comfortable. Yeah, we're married. We got married. Yeah, they loved my life. Oh, that's sweet. I realized, at some point, that they were the love of my life, and I was going to figure out how to-- we would have to figure out how to do this. Oh, that's sweet. And so it was a little bit complicated. But we did sign the paperwork. It was called a love contract. He invited us to roast him at their-- Is what? It's called a love contract. It is? Or a love, yes. Because you have to say you won't keep dating if you don't love each other, because you have to prove-- you have to say to the company, hey, if you're not interested in each other, you can't stay together just because you happen to work together. So you have to agree that if you're not in love, you're undead. Oh. Is that an interesting document? That's very weird, though. Yeah. Like, what-- what if you're not there yet? Yeah. I don't know. OK. And you guys were there. We were there. Well, that's really sweet. No, I like-- you know what? I like love. I'm like a 14-year-old girl when I get to like romcom stuff. And this feels very romcom. So I'm like, I think you're a great boss here. Yeah, I know. I knew I said I was going to beat bad boss the whole time, but you got me. Thank you, son. Prior to the world's worst, mom, now or check it out in stores on September 1st, we'll be right back with the right wheel. Love It Or Leave It is brought to you by SimplySafe. Here's the thing. About other home security systems, they're all designed for after. After the window breaks, after someone's inside, after you get the notification, after the police come, SimplySafe is the first system designed for before stopping a break-in before it even begins. 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Plus, when you order, write in our show name and then how did you hear about our survey to let them know we sent you. Don't forget, there's no safe. Like SimplySafe. [MUSIC PLAYING] And we're back! Let's welcome Adam back to the stage. Adam Mochler returns. Sit here with us. Welcome back. There's nothing like a short spin after a long week because it's time for the rant wheel. Here's our works. We spin the wheel. Wherever it lands, that person rants. Why do we have a wheel to land on the three people on stage when all three of us are going to get to rant? We don't know. We all get to rant. Yeah, it's just, we've never cracked it. Let's spin the wheel. [MUSIC PLAYING] It has landed on, Adam. What would you like to rant about for 60 seconds? Oh, now, OK. I'm really, really sick of men who refuse to change and then complain that women don't actually like them. Women have been forced to change for men for all of human history. And now, young men are confused and mad that they have to go outside, put an effort, take a shower, put down the controller, stop watching Andrew Tate, and actually put in some effort to go get a girl. I mean, my girlfriend has changed me for the better. I now have more than three shirts to choose from. I was like a cartoon character of the same few shirts. These pants, seat shows. I have ambient lighting in my place. I used to just have hospital lights. Like, everything was incredibly bright. I'm on my phone less. It's overall a net positive. And I think that a lot of men can change themselves for the better, can be changed, and helped in a relationship. And I think that, yeah, put down the Andrew Tate, go put on deodorant, go outside, go better yourself, then go try to find someone you love. That's nice. Thanks, guys. Yeah. Wait, four seconds, three seconds. And also, yeah, grow up, grow up. Yeah, no, for sure. I like that. Yeah, I think it's funny the effort thing. Because it's like, I feel like there's a way in which, especially when you're young, you're like, ugh, - I don't want to proceed.
tend to be someone I'm not because then they'll eventually see who the real me is. So I'm not going to put on a big effort to try to make myself look or act or like kind of put on a show, and that's not who I am, and say, no, no, no, you misunderstand. The effort you put in going into a date is not about the person you're pretending to be at the end of that effort. The effort itself is proving you're the kind of person who makes an effort, and people should want to be with someone who makes an effort, and if you're not willing to make an effort, that is revealing, that is the person that people don't want to date. Not the person that you're showing up as the real you, it's the person that didn't make the effort. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's, yeah. That was another good rant. That was perfect. I think there's a self-fulfilling prophecy where people think that I'm not even going to try. I'm not worth it. I think that women will like me. And then because of that, it weakens their confidence interval and stops them from actually trying. So try. Yeah. And it's okay to get rejected. I think that people, did you say, yeah? Did you say, who said, yeah? Okay. Somebody really agreed with me on that, who clearly gets rejected alone. I've been rejected alone. I'm not kidding. I'm totally kidding. I think I'm never speaking again. I do. I know, poor guy. I think that there's a very risk-averse kind of quality that's coming out for a lot of people, and they're very terrified of rejection. And I, you know, before I met my husband, I got to a point where I just started hitting on anything and everything that I wanted to hit on, and I got rejected, and sometimes I didn't, and I would leave my number for waiters sometimes if I thought they were cute. So I, it's, you'll be fine. You'll survive rejection. I do think that that's something that is important for young men, especially to know. Well, I just want to finish this off by saying rejection is like removed from our society with young men, because if I want to go apply for a job, I do it online via LinkedIn. If I want to find a date, I would go on hinge before. If I want to get food, I don't even have to go out in public. I can just do it as shit. So we've removed a lot of that social friction and that rejection. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Let's spin it again. Oh my God. So what would you like to rant about? I would be honest. I didn't fully know what I was going to rant about, and then when Adam started talking, I was like, yeah, you know what? Men don't go out and like get to know women a lot. And so on that point, I would like to talk about Perry Menopause. And here's why we learn about when it starts. When our whole female puberty starts, nobody tells us what happens to us when it's ending. And I wish someone had told me what happens when it's ending. And as a woman in her 40s, deep in it, I'm angry that no one talked about it before. I feel like you too can just chime in at any minute if you want to, you know, roll with me on this. But it is definitely something that really lacks from female education. It's just, it's just shows how little people talk about what's actually happening with women's bodies in general, which is really frustrating. And I think that I would really love if older generations had warned me about it and nobody ever did. And now I'm deep in it and I'm a little resentful towards my mom, especially. What's? Hey. What would you like? What would you like? Perry Menopause. Let's do it. What do you wish you were warned about? What happens? Yeah. You learn about menopause, right? You learn about what happens when it ends, but no one tells you about this period of time which is the build up to it, which is when your body is like going fucking crazy, like things are happening, you know, everything's changing. You're itching a lot, like your body is just weird. Things are happening. And you don't know why it's happening. And then you talk to your friends and someone did the research and then you start really going down the deep dive of this whole that is Perry Menopause. And it's, I really wish, it's, I think it's endemic of a lot of other things about how there's very little research when it comes to what happens to women's bodies in general. How the information is not there for a lot of people and things happen to us. We have no idea why it's happening to us. It takes forever for us to get diagnosed with certain things sometimes. So yeah, I'm, I'm pissed. I'm ranting. It's really weird. I have a family member who a month ago was talking about the same thing. She's in her 40s going to the same exact thing and said there's not enough research. She has to resort to like Reddit threads and personal experiences because a lot of stuff surrounding pregnancy, like you said, changes in women's bodies is very, very under research. And it's a big, big problem right now. Yep. Yep. Disagree. Disagree. I think we've looked at it enough. We got a lot of good information and we got to focus on more important things affecting men. There's a lot of things going on in male, male bodies that we don't fully understand. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, tons of stuff. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Let's spin it again. It is landed on me. So Aeroan, this very fancy grocery store on Los Angeles, just opened up another location. They're getting closer and closer to the magic number, which is 20. Because at 20, I think they're at 17 or maybe 18 depending on how you count. At 20, Aeroan will have to start posting calories. And I think that is going to be awesome because that is going to be when people find out what is going on inside of these fucking smoothies, these $16 healthy smoothies, and they discover that they've been basically having a fucking dairy queen blizzard for years. It is going to be so thrilling. The streets will run fucking red. Yeah. But you think some of the shit that just shit that's going to go down in this city at that fucking valley Aeroan, it's going to look like a rack. It's going to be crazy. The battles that are going to be fought on the streets. Yeah. You know what that reminds me of? Is that scene in Mean Girls when Regina George finds out that she's been eating protein bars that are just designed to make her fat? When she loses her mind and then just releases the burn book, that's on a city wide scale. And you know what, they're never going to get there, or if they do, they're going to change the name. Yes. So this is the thing. So the reason that there is Hillsstone and Houston, that they're separate. That's what I was thinking of. Yes. I was like, I know Houston's did that. Well, so they did it. We were talking to this. They had to not just change the name. I assume their lawyers also made them adjust the menu so that the Hillsstone menu and the Houston's menu is defensibly different. Yeah. So they don't have to put the calories on because if people found out what was going on of those fucking burgers, again, we'd still go. Of course. Yeah. Spinach chip? Yeah. How many calories? I don't care. I never care. More calories, please. Yeah. What calories for my money? Wow. What a deal. There's so many calories. Yeah. To dip. All right. We'll be right back. [APPLAUSE] Sometimes it's best to double down. Other times, you got to double back. Either way, it's time for second thoughts. Adam and Zona, I have a-- I've had a die to my time with both of you tonight. But my producers have given us a list of moments from this evening show that they think went bad and that I should regret. If you have any moments of regret from tonight, please think about them. You're free to share them. Let's see. From the monologue, I very quickly brought up children with eating disorders and mass shootings. But what the audience doesn't know is that there was also a joke about suicide that we cut. [LAUGHTER] And I brought the energy down, and it took-- I had to fight, basically, for the next hour, to get you back. And that's on us. That's on us. And we talked about it beforehand. And I think about that as a lesson going forward. I did not have enough good will built up for the active shooter joke. You guys hated the abortion wigs joke, and then I rift on it, but you also hated it. You're really-- you doubled down on that. Triple dada. Triple dada, of course, yeah. Triple dada. And I was like, wait, does that mean one person has wigs? Like, she has multiple wigs because she has multiple abortions? She's just apportioning all over the place? What's interesting is you thought one wig per abortion. I thought multiple wigs for one abortion because she's moving through different jurisdictions. [LAUGHTER] But that's the beauty of a joke like that. It's art. It's up to you to interpret how you feel it. You thought it was a woman having one wig per abortion. Why do you need a new wig for your next abortion? [LAUGHTER] Is this back seven, the future? Back seven, the future. My flubbed back seven, the future. The one joke that didn't make everyone mad at me. [LAUGHTER] And once people got it, you beat it to death. Yeah, beat it to absolute fuck and death. No, no, no, no, it would have been so good if you didn't flub it. I leaned into that riff pretty hard about having a Bugatti. [LAUGHTER] But I liked it. Yeah. Adam, have you ever seen the show "Girls?" No. Yep. OK. You got to know the audience. Yeah, that was a mistake there. [LAUGHTER] That's just so-- immediately. Hey, there are a lot of Armenians in LA. Then took the world's longest boss and said, which is good. [LAUGHTER] I remember that. What was that about? And there were so many things running through my mind, like, oh no, does he hate us? Why does he pause? I'm glad you clarified. You think it's good, because I didn't know where you're going. He didn't know, wasn't clear. I compared Conan O'Brien to a big dog who doesn't live very long. [LAUGHTER] I liked this segment a lot. And that's our show. Thank you so much, Adam, Markler, and Sonoma.
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