In this interview with Kiki Palmer, FLO—comprising Georgia, Stella, and Renee—discusses their rise as a British girl group in the modern R&B scene. They share their journey from early days in college, where they met and formed the group, to navigating label dynamics and industry politics. As a Black girl group, they faced challenges, feeling the need to "kick the door down" and prove themselves, often learning to speak the industry's language while maintaining their artistic identity. Their fan base, built organically before their first hit, remains supportive and honest, helping them stay grounded. The trio highlights the importance of sisterhood, with roles that shift fluidly, and they credit their single mothers for instilling a "boss bitch" attitude of determination. They reflect on their Grammy nomination as the first British girl group in 20 years, which was unexpected and humbling, but they don't let awards define success—instead prioritizing live shows, fan connections, and sustainability. Their upcoming album, "Therapy and the Club," showcases a more business-savvy approach, using analysis to improve and expand their sound beyond R&B into pop. They address comparisons to legends like Destiny's Child, embrace their British authenticity, and express gratitude to fans for allowing them to explore and grow. Ultimately, FLO aims to become the biggest girl group of their generation while preserving their friendship and individuality.
Every generation has that one-girl group that becomes the soundtrack to your life. The group whose song gets you through your first crush, your first heartbreak, your first night out with your girls, and every messy beautiful chapter in between. And for today's generation, that group is flow. They got the vocals, they got the harmonies, they got the style, but more importantly, they built something you can't manufacture. Genuine sisterhood. In just a few short years, Georgia, Stella, and Renee have become one of the most exciting voices in modern R&B. But this story is about more than music. It's about three young women building a global girl group without losing themselves, their friendship, or each other. Because coming into this industry as a black girl group, meant they had to kick the door down. So today, we're talking about ambition, sisterhood, success, and what it takes to create your own space when nobody's saving a seat for you. Because baby, this is Kiki Palmer. And this is flow! Come out here, girls! I'm so excited! I'm so excited to be a child in the air! How would you grab your phone? That was like emotional. Honestly, that was perfect. You know, we had to give you guys your props. How we see? That looks fabulous. I didn't even use the doorbell. You guys live in London for a time. But you were just doing an out loud festival, and then you were going to be doing some more stuff in LA. So you're getting accustomed to the LA vibe. We're definitely in LA more than at home. I don't know if my mattress is firm. Of course. That's what I have enough for. Do you guys feel like you'll be living in LA sometimes, though? Probably like beginning of next year. Really? I know, it's so close. Oh my gosh, what part? Do you all know what type? What type? Depends on how much money we've got by then. No, you ain't never like. Because LA is expensive. But you know who's more expensive in New York. She needs to get her ass together. Yeah. It gets to a point. You know what I mean? But I heard that London is very expensive. London is expensive. I think more than LA. It is. So I think you'll get a little break. Yeah. A little financial break. A little financial break with LA. I like that you guys are getting into the LA vibe. I know we're going to be very happy to have you. I would love seeing y'all out of the town. Yeah. I feel like we're more known there as well. In New York, we just feel more familiar with that. We have a better like network of people there. Like people that we work with. It's so interesting to hear that. I was so curious of how you guys feel your fan base is in relation to Wakeback Home and in America. Because in the US, I mean, I don't know a lot about London. I don't get a lot of time there. But I know in the US, we go up for you guys. Do you feel the same vibe at Back Home? Definitely. But I think because we don't spend a lot of time there. It's hard to fill that connection. Yeah. Yeah. So we always do a pre show pull up for our show. But obviously it's three of you girls here. So I mean, we can just go one by one, Stella, Georgia. And just figure out. So what's your zodiac sign? Satch. Your Sagittarius. Do you know your rising or your moon? I think. I think. I think one of them is a tourist. Oh, okay. Which is interesting. Because tourist is sometimes. Get on your nerves. A little bit. Maybe they're a little bit you. Maybe they may be. Maybe they may be. Maybe they're not. Projective. And then one to Leo, I think. Okay. Okay. So some fire, double fire going on. What are you? She's firing. I'm a Capricorn. Oh, my gosh. That's my perfect match. I'm a Virgo. I live with Capricorn. Very shady, but keeping it together. There is a move that's still engaged. Yeah. I love a Capricorn. What's your rising in your moon? No idea. She's no idea. No idea. What about your rename? I'm a Libra. Libra. Okay. The aesthetic is aesthetically. I can always count on a Libra for this. Do you know your rising in your moon? I don't. I wouldn't have known that. It's a strategy huge in London. Not as much as in America. Not as in America. She's going up for it over here. Yeah. It's not the first thing people ask. It's crazy. Yeah. We're doing the most. It's high. How are you? She'll start. Literally. What is your love language? Do you know? Like physical type. Are you type of person? I like to touch. I use type of person. I like to serve it. I have some words of affirmation. Oh, come on. You better affirm me. Yes, please. Yes! Yes! What about you, daughter? I would say acts of service. Act of service. Okay. It's given let me cater to you. Yes. Wait. Wait. Is it what you like to receive? Yes. Oh, it's what you like to receive. Oh, that's also what you like to receive. Yeah. I could be there. I was saying for receiving. Yes. For receiving. For giving what do you think you give most? Mmm. This is the big thing. I'll show up. I'll show up. What about you, Stella? Um, physical touch. Okay. Which is weird because like, I don't know. You don't know. I don't know. That's crazy. You want to touch, but you don't want to be touched. Ah! When the right person is. Yeah. And probably time. Hmm. Polly. What is this? Polly. I've just said in Polly time. I said, now what's Polly time? I'm into a little Polly time. Polly time! Yeah, quality time. I do love sharing the same space, even if we're on our phone. Yes. You could be next to me and be human beside. Yes. And let's have you eat that. Yeah. What's the question you wish you were asked more in interviews? Oh my gosh. Mmm. You have the cutest chin. Thank you. That I've literally ever seen. Thank you. Um, I don't know. I felt like we only know when it happens. Yeah. Like we get that question and we'll actually like say. Oh, thank you. This is such a good question. Yeah. Thank you. But does anything like. Not for us. Well, I know when I was doing my research. I was like, I can't ask him how the group got together. Oh, thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I didn't want to bring y'all through it. I was like, I can tell they don't want to be asked. You don't know how many times you got. I heard it a few times. Yeah. Oh! We got together. We met. Yeah. Yeah. So I did take that note. Um, okay. Who is someone that you've met that made you feel star shook? Ooh! Teddy Rowland. That's been love. Oh, come on, Kelly Rowland. Yes! I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm going to get on me about constantly slipping into y'all's actions. That's fun because you're good. It just makes me happy. I feel like I'm one of the girls. Yeah. See how I'm one of the girls. So, Kelly Rowland, we love Kelly's hands down. Brandy. Brandy Perry. Yes. I mean, of course. Yes, of course. Yeah. Just met Stevie Wonder. Oh my god. Oh my god. And that was the thing. That movie. That movie. That was quite. I don't know. It was quite different in a way. Like, we went to his studio. So it felt very. It felt very real. But surreal. Yeah. I feel like a lot of people like we've. It's kind of felt a bit more like. Casual. Not casual. Not casual. Yeah. With him, it felt intimate. But sometimes it will be like at an event. It's kind of like this pressure. It's chaos. It's just like, "Hi. We love you. Bye." But this really felt like. I was like. We was like, "Shut up." "Shut up." "Shut up." It was like, "Oh my god." And then I honestly feel like it really matches to me. Like, I could imagine y'all doing some kind of collaboration with Stevie. Because I think that's one of the things people love so much about you guys too. As a girl group, you're really singing. Y'all be into the harmony. Y'all gonna give a whole moment in arrangement. And so it. I would love to see more with y'all in this Stevie vibe. We're getting back. Yes. But Stevie, yeah. Definitely just the classic, like, real music. True music, yeah. A song. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A full one with the bridge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we were studying music in college. Yeah, yeah. So college, that's like 17, 18 years old. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it was the last year of me and Georgie being in college, right? Yeah. That we got in the group. And Renee was in her first year. Mm-hmm. So we knew what we wanted to do. Yeah. So we didn't really have that, like, awkward time after school where we were like. Yeah, I was just like, how am I going to make this work? Yeah. How am I going to make this work? Yeah. Yeah. So you credit for your development. Aside from, obviously, each other, right? But, like, we definitely had access to, like, studio time via our label island. Mm-hmm. Which definitely made the journey easier, because we didn't really have to worry about paying for it. Yeah. So that. No. I'm so down for that. Yeah. What about those early days? Two later. Two later. Yes. Suddenly I have a 500 tours date. Yeah. Like, what the hell? So, who were some of those early producers that you guys worked with, that you feel like, really helped to develop you guys as sound? M&E. M&EK, for sure. M&EK. M&EK. Come on. Yeah. He literally taught us, like, most of what we know when it comes to writing songs. Yeah. And, like, what we want to hear in production. It was a lot of him. Yeah. To do a much more. Jamalville. Jamalville. Like, a lot of UK collaborators. Yeah. - Love that, shout out to, I need to take my ass up there.
We're having a game. - Yes. - I'm like, it is like, oh my God, you're amazing, yes. - So you guys immediately knew, 'cause I mean, look, when you're on your road to music, whether it's you yourself or you with a group, you know or you know when it's not the right situation. - For sure. - What let you know that this was a combination that you could really get with, that you felt like, no, no, like, I think, I think this is gonna be real for us. Like, we can actually be a group. - Definitely each other. Like, I felt really comfortable with the vision of flow, because I feel like we are the right type of people to be in a group together. - Yeah. - Yeah, also like, our lives were, not, we grew up the same way. - Yeah. - And kind of, like, we all were brazed by single moms. - Come on. - So like, we've seen the hard work. - Yeah. - We know what it takes. - We have the ambition. And so, that definitely helped us to be like, okay, we're like sisters. And we're all only children. - No. - Can't sing. (laughing) - Now, I know your mom's a, she didn't do that. - Yes. - She used to be, well, she's, I guess, you're always cool with Olympian. - Yeah, once you're a Olympian, you're a Olympian. So, I'm sure you learned a lot about discipline for sure in determination from her. - She could have helped me a little bit more. (laughing) But definitely, her message was, like, I didn't need to be like traditional in terms of education, because like, she didn't do that. And, but if I found something that was my passion, like she did, like, I felt like it was her passion, then you make it a career. But like, you have to make it a career. - And you just gotta go with the flow. - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. - I had no fun in time. - When you guys say chemistry, 'cause you're talking about how you guys fit, I mean, who are you guys to each other in the group, right? Like, it's like, who's the peacemaker? Who's the comic relief? Who's the one that, let's go outside? Let's get into the town. Like, what role do y'all play? Or do y'all switch it up at any given time? - It really does, like, into even change. - It's like a change, everything. I could be the master real fan. - Okay, come on, master man. - Yeah, it really depends. - It depends. - The thing of it all. - Yeah, it does depend. - It does change. - Because we all had to do every role at some point. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But that's why it's good to see you. - That's why it's good to see you. - Yeah, like we're always covered in all areas 'cause there's three of us. - Yeah. And three is a tough number though, sometimes. Because it's like, you know, how do you guys all decide on one thing? Like has it ever been a time where you're in contact? - Honestly, anymore would be too many. - Oh my gosh. - It's a majority. - Two people agree, then. - It's a democracy. - It's a democracy. - Have you guys ever had a moment where it's like, sorry, boo, this is the song, or hey, boo, this is the love song? - You know, where it's like, you guys are going like, na na na na na. - Maybe more recently, when we were deciding what songs to put on our album. That was one song that we were like, quite unsure about. And it was definitely like, I was outrooted. And it was like, cool. - And have you been proven wrong? - But we don't actually know if we can take it off the album. - Yeah, we don't know what's happening. - Yeah, it might be a bit late. (laughing) - I think it's the one's the favorite song. You'll be a bit late. - That is so true. You really never know. - Yeah, people have said that to us. It's the only thing you do. - That might be all right. It's the big song. - Isn't that so weird how that happens? I mean, when you think about your debut single, that came out in 2022, did you, were you guys like 100% unanimous on that being? - Oh, yes. - We were. - Y'all know. - Y'all know. - You have to tell the label. - Yeah. - The label one. - Why don't you always have to find out? - Oh yeah. - We were making PowerPoints. - Oh my gosh, you guys, so wait. No, we need that corporate process. You know, 'cause they see the people, the fans see the creative process, but they don't know that our girls have to also be CEO. - Exactly. - And when I get artists in this game, you have to have the power. Well, I can't tell you how many times I've slaved over a deck trying to put all my insights together and why this is the correct move to make with me. So tell me the process of like being like, putting your packaging together or getting your stuff together where you were confident and having to get the label to sign off and believe. Like, what were the steps? You made a presentation, aren't you? - Yeah, I mean, we had been making music for like two years up until we even put a song out. And there was this one so good, ladies with me. - And it was cute. - It was cute, right? - It was cute like it was a fine song. - Yeah, funny about that. - But I think that they wanted us to like, get to Carboard Books. Carboard Books, everyone knew was a big song. Carboard Books. - They didn't want us to kick the door down. - They were like, it's too early to put a song out. But we were like, no, we need to come out the gates. - Hello. - Yes, girls. - Let's go. - And the PowerPoint actually had like our whole EP. - Yeah. - It was the first round one song. - Oh my gosh, Carboard Books. I do want to have it rolled down the list. So I had to ask you guys something about that, this one particular leg. Let me get my cars together. Now that we own Carboard Books, because I need to know, okay. So, you guys say this in the song, you ain't gonna change, boy. What's the point in stringing me along? We're done for real, so I'm gonna put you in the carboard. - Carboard Books. - Carboard Books. - Change him, change him my number. And I'm changing the lock, so spill the tea. Was it based on a real experience? - I wish there was some tea, like. - We were children when we made a trip. - I don't know. - I didn't mean we're like 17 and 18. - It's just all about like, fantasy. - Especially at that age. - It was just like- - I got what I had to do. - Honestly, but also- - Barely any little tie that you brought to us. - Yes, exactly, exactly. But like as a girl group, we look to certain artists and they've always had that kind of like, I'm gonna do this, I'll bust the windows out of your car. So we were just channeling that energy. Like the day, the day's gonna come when we're gonna do some (beep) and we can take it now. - So what is it like for you guys, as artists? And I love what you said, because it is about also building a fantasy. Your fans get to know you like in your interviews or when they get to be around you. But like making sure they know that also the music, I'm trying to give you the entertainment that you need. How was it crafting the personality? Like what were the groups that you guys kind of looked at or like we're like, not wanna say fashion yourself after, but like deciding how to give people that show, that girl group like- (laughs) - I feel like we didn't really do a lot of that. Like I think naturally everything we knew like was in the zeitgeist, exactly. Like it was all just instilled in us. And because we had M&EK who is so knowledgeable about girl groups. - I love M&EK name, right? - That's fabulous, fabulous. Like we really just followed his lead. - Yeah, yeah. - And it was one of those things where it was like you have someone who kind of knows what they're talking about and you just like learn. - Yeah. - And we were on very like, we can't be like that, can't be like that, we can't be like that. We were just like, if it feels right, great. - Yeah, and you knew you wanted to bring that attitude. And you guys have a good relationship with your audience too. I'm curious on how you were able to establish that because you know, there's one thing when you have a fan base and then it's like sometimes you might have where it's like crazy. I feel like girls with y'all fans, they're very much deeply engaged, but also supportive. Like they have a good warming. I got love y'all stand group. How was it kind of getting that relationship going? - It's amazing. Like they are the reason we are where we are. Like we really got our fan base site before everything. - Yes. - Like we've got a fan base and no hit. - Yeah, yeah. - My boy Laurence Murray, aka LaRose, I had to shout him out because he's the first person that put out to where he was y'all stand up first thing. And he was like, yo, Kiki, you need to know about Flo. 'Cause I'm always looking for the next. Like I love, I love seeing and spying new talent, figuring out how to like know what's happening in culture. Before y'all had y'all first hit anything, he knew. And I was like, yeah, it's put me on the floor. So I'm really happy that had his thing. - Thank you. - I feel like we got lucky. Because a lot of our fans are very similar to us. Like just in terms of how they carry themselves. So we've never really experienced having like a mean fan base or having to tell people, like don't be like that. Like they just get it. - And they stand up for y'all, but they stand up when we were like, let them cook, let them cook. 'Cause they're coming back. Don't even wait a bit. - Right. - It's like, it's like you got that point. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's still honest as well. - Yeah. - Which is nice. - It's a healthy dynamic. - Because we're really honest and we do appreciate constructive criticism. And like, we never want to be like, I think the worst thing is having delusional fans. - Yeah. - Like, we have very not delusional fans. - Yeah, and they feel like all of that. - Maybe we're all delusional. (laughing) - The delusional level is the same. - I know exactly what you mean though. And they also seem like they're a little keyed into the industry. - They already didn't know what they had to go through. - Yeah. - The tingle was like, you know, they kind of giving, it's very funny how that has happened, but it helps us as entertainers. Because it's like, yeah, know a little something so that you can know where I'm coming from. - Exactly. - Why do you think people are so hungry for girl groups right now? Like, and obviously this, I think this is like the space where you guys have literally, yeah, came in and been like, we here to say the day. But for a minute, we didn't have any type of thing like that. I think people wanted it so much. - I feel like it's such a big part of like growing up. - Yeah. - I feel like the generation before us, they kind of had it. - Yeah. - And so they want to see it again. And then the younger ones, like, they know it's happened for the other generations. And it's like, especially for the girls and the gays, it's like such a big thing. - It is, it is so important to like grow up with music that is so real and just fun. And then they can relate to each one of us. - It's just like, it makes people think that they're a part of something, not, I don't want to say think, because they are, but they look at something and they're like, this is something that I can kind of see myself in. - Yeah, like, join, whereas if it's your one person, it's kind of like, how do you like infiltrate that? But if it's like a group, you're just like,
I was like, yeah, I want to join the group. Like, I want to be a part of this community. - Yes, yes. It's usually an archetype, too, kind of thing, where you're like, I'm so-and-so. Like, if this is a show, I was always Kelly Rowland. I'm Kelly. - It's very, I'm like, so there's always somebody that you can identify with. - Yeah. - Like, it's really, really fun, too. Make me think about Spice Girls. You can be sporty Spice Girls. - Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. - And you don't know what I mean, posh, you know? We live for that. I mean, but also, you guys are traveling a lot, right? So, when you're thinking about how much your life is going early days, so this is the steps you have now, how are you being able to maintain being grounded, with being so far away from your family and stuff like that? - Definitely, like, seeing family when we can. But I feel like, because this has been our life from the very beginning, so it doesn't feel drastically different. - Yeah. - Like, we just get on with it. Like, working seven days a week is normal to us. - Morning. - We know about that. - And the traveling. I always feel like that was always, even to this day, that's something that's really always annoying to me. I mean, it just, you know, playing up to playing up to playing up to playing up to playing. - Yeah, it just is taxing within itself, not having any types of routines. - Yeah. - Are you guys ritual girls? - I definitely like to keep some type of routine whenever we can. It's like you have to get the balance right of like, taking a break when you need it, but working in an efficient way. But also, going back to before, I think we're lucky, because a lot of our team are like our friends and our family. So, even when we're away from home, we still have our family. - Yeah. - Like, they become, or they actually are relatives. - Oh. - They don't actually are relatives. - But they feel family is our family. - I love that. - I love that. - It's the only way. - Yeah. - Yeah. Now, what would you say that you have been learning, right? If you think about growing up, you guys are saying your single moms, are there teachings and things that they gave you that you feel like are coming out to fruition while, you know, kind of being on your own and being out on the road and doing all this kinds of work. Have you seen any of those kind of things come back, like, oh, you know, well, my mom and Emily was, you know. - I think the main one is just that kind of bus bitch attitude. - Yeah. - I think that's really the most important thing that like we could have ever learned from our moms, which is just doing what you have to do. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Get it done, bitch. - That's right. I love getting done, bitch. - Yeah. - Seriously, what else is going to happen? If I knew it, you know what I mean? - How would we know? - Come on. - But it's also tough when you are on the road and the people that you work with are your family, that means you have a lot of hard conversations sometimes. How do you guys handle that when it's like, I need my space or, you know, whatever it could be, you know. - It's definitely good because all the hard conversations are only for our benefit. So I feel like we understand those type of conversations. - It used to be difficult. - Yeah. - Like I think people-- - I don't want to hurt about feelings, you know. - Yeah, but I think that was definitely a, like a period where people kind of avoided us in a way or like avoided having big conversations with us 'cause we didn't take them very well. But, like, we were a little wild. - I'm saying we. - No, we can join you. But I think it was hard. - Thank you, Renee. - Yes. - I think we were young, but also we didn't really have a lot of people that we respected their opinions. And like, now we're out of-- - It is, it's like, 'cause who are you? Why, you don't have the credentials. - But, you know, like, you know, I feel like a lot of Johnny in the beginning was us fighting for, like, what we think is right. - We were fighting for our life. - Yeah. - Oh my gosh, you know, it's hard being, and maybe I'm throwing out a guest too, it's probably hard being the youngest person in the room. - Yeah. - And being like, we got our hands on the poles. - Yeah. - And it's like, we knew what we were talking about. - Yeah, and I think-- - Even though we were completely inexperienced. - But we knew we knew, 'cause we know Gargroups as well. And I think a lot of people in labels, like, they hadn't worked with the Gargroups. - Yes. - Yes. - Like, there's been a lot of Gargroups with us. - But we, and I mean, like, we-- - We were doing the karaoke, you were doing the karaoke. - Would y'all have a door reality show? - Oh my god, we need one. - Do it by me. - Yes, we do. - Oh my god, please. - I've seen him and the guys, I wanna watch y'all, like, the demon hunter, girl. (laughing) - Yes. - That would be so funny. - I wanna be in flow with flow. - Yes. - Uh-oh. - On the go with flow. We don't find it, buddy. - Well, you're finding flow with flow with flow with-- - Yes! - She's good. - Okay, it's coming, it's coming. - She's good. - She's really good. - God, I'm obsessed with you. Okay, wait a minute. Let's get into this real quick, because are y'all dating? I'm not trying to get into your business. Y'all ain't gotta tell me who it is, okay? But let's get into the real stuff that the girls want to know about. 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What about yours? - I have been in a relationship for six and a half years. - Oh, my girl, that's your man. Oh my gosh, six, yes. - Yes. - And he is actually a part of our management team. - Hold it in. - Come on, time your metola. - Oh my God. (laughing) - Oh my God, I'm crazy. Okay, six years, bam. - Yeah. - And so are you looking for somebody or what? - No. - She's looking for herself. - Yeah. - I'm looking for myself. I just think I've been in a couple of relationships and I've always owned up, thank you. - It got married and you're really part of a relationship. - Yeah, couple of relationships. (laughing) - I always end up single and they end up single. - Thanks to my choice, yes, by choice. But I think that like I'm really young, I'm 23. - Yeah. - And I need to just look in with myself. Like I just need to focus. - That's calm. - You know, no distractions. Yes, when it comes, that's great. - Yeah, I'm just not actively looking 'cause like dating is long and like-- - It takes a lot of time for that. - Yeah. - That's why I also had asked, because it's like, sometimes we don't have the schedule for it. - No, I don't. - You know what I mean, the emotional bandwidth. And you know what I mean, it requires a lot. I mean, also being desired is a part of being in your womanhood too. - Yeah. - So having a little moment, just for romance and stuff, it also is inspirational to the music. So, you know, I'm like, you know, how does that play a role in your life? - Renews our amuse. - Amuse. - My name. - I like lies, I love amuse. - Because it gives you something to play with. Even if they ain't no good, hell. - I'm gonna have some time to talk to them. - That's better. - He came through the door, I told him, go. - Yeah! - Yeah! - Why am I thing going so old? - Oh, that's better. - Yeah. - Wow. - I think we need to do such a good job. - Publish it. (laughing) - Please. - Okay, how do you guys feel like you resist being trapped by controversies? 'Cause one of the things that kills me about it with girl groups is that people love girl groups just to be able to be like, she's my favorite, her, she need to go. Them, it's like, almost like they're the ones, they're the reasons why we don't have a girl group. 'Cause you guys toured them all apart. - Yeah. - So how do you help each other in those times in periods where it's like, okay, they just trying to always force us to a competent, I mean, I don't even know if that's what you experience. But I just know that is the reason.
reality sometimes of girl groups. So how do you guys prepare yourselves for this thing? - I think what's good is that no one can tell us about ourselves, like we, we have an opinion of ourselves and we're not having an opinion of each other, right? And so we can't really feed into like these people that don't know what we know. - Yeah, and also like, we know we wouldn't go online and write something like that. Therefore what they're going through, they need prayer. - Yeah, like, you're not happy. And like, I'm sorry to remember. Sorry, you know, so you take pinch of salt, yes, you know? - And we're also like, we're not done. Like it's too early for us to be taking. - Give us a sec, do you know what I mean? - It's still marinating, it's premature. - Yeah, like, we have like conversations amongst, like first we know each other's strengths, we know each other's weaknesses. I once called them weaknesses, I'd call them. - Shallow, just things, okay, just things. - That aren't strengths. (laughing) - And yeah, like, we know we're very self-aware and we're like, we're working hard. - Yeah. - You know, we're working hard to like improve on all of the things that like, we're not happy with within ourselves and that's really what we can do. - And we're happy to do that. That's like, kind of like one of the best parts. - Yeah. - Especially when it comes to like, live, watching our live vocals improve. - I always felt that you guys have been good from the beginning, I'll be honest with you. When I first, you know what I mean? I really truly did, there's been moments with people where you're like, oh, they need some, but I felt like everything with you guys has been a consistent growth moment. And from the beginning, it was like, okay, they can sing, they came to sing, we locked in. So, you know, fabulous. - Thank you. - Bringing us to the Grammy, not my name. (laughing) - Oh, I mean, guys, what was it like to be, I mean, you are the first British girl group nominated in 20 years. - Yeah, crazy. - That's kind of like crazy. What were you thinking when you guys got that nomination to tell people who were like, what a shot. - Good to see you. - Oh, man. - She said shot. - Shot. (laughing) - It wasn't saying. - Yes, it was. - We did not expect it. We didn't expect it. - We actually didn't expect it. - No idea. - We don't know either. - We, we want to get that. - No, no, no. - Georgia was going somewhere, right? - Yes, yes. - Yeah, me and Renee were in the studio. And I called them, it's so annoying 'cause they were in my house, and I just left. And I'm thinking, well, like, you know what I mean? But anyways, so I could feel a part of it, I called them to tell them, as opposed to like, someone just telling us. - Yeah, but I still had FOMO. But it was just, I know, it's fine. - It's fine because nevermind. - It's gonna happen again. - Exactly, right, right, right. We really actually didn't even like wake up and say, it was just a nomination day. - Yeah. - Like, it was such a surprise. - Yeah. - Wow. - Yeah. - And then did it make you anxious, I know Victoria Monet has actually been talking a lot about winning her Grammy and kind of the after effects of sometimes when you get such decent achievements because whether you win or whatever nominated is, you know, it's already a thing. Did you feel that it put any more pressure on you? Or? - I feel like if anything, it put more of a pep in our staff because we, to some extent, we thought we were gonna win because it felt like we could win this. - For sure. - But then it was humbling for us to remember that you have to work extremely hard and it takes multiple years for you to clear the Grammys. - Yeah. - So to even be there after our first album is enough. - That's crazy. - To be acknowledged, to be seen. - Exactly. - And have music that comes out as we all know. - Exactly. - That doesn't even get a chance to even be submitted or seen. So it's definitely next level. Who did win? - Drone ballon. - And he's been loved to win. - We do, we do. - Yeah, yeah. - But I was kind of like, what's with your categories? 'Cause why me and DeRan in the same one? - Well, it was very close to R&B. - It was very close to R&B. - I think we have a bit more. We have a bit more of a bit more. - I can tell you. - A bit more of these days. - I couldn't tell you. - No, the group categories is where they get you. - That doesn't make much sense. - Yeah. - I think, and this is another thing as well. I think across most awards shows. Like, obviously I don't want to get in like too much. 'Cause we're always grateful. - No, I'm not. - Of course. - But like, incredible, but respectfully. - There's definitely inconsistencies when it comes to categories in England, over here like everywhere. And I think that that is a big reason why we don't put a lot of pressure on ourselves when it comes to these things. Because we've seen people that we thought deserve to win lose. So, you know, there's always a level of, if you win, it's nice. But if you don't win, just remember that. - It's not the big kind of a bit of like a whole. - Politics. - It is a short involved. - A lot of different steps. What would you say that you define success by? Like, would it be, have making sure that your tours are sold out? Would it be people listening to the music and streaming? Like, what are the things where you're like, as long as we're X, Y, and Z, I'm happy. And it might be different for all of you. - I think it's real life stuff. Like the fans and the community we make. And when people come to us and say, you changed my life, you saved me and this way. - Yeah. - Just interactions and live shows. - Live shows are just the best. - There's nothing like it. - Also, like, live shows make a lot of the money as well. - Okay. - It's like a fair kind of, it's like a real in person moment where you're with everyone. And it's also one of the things that make a lot of money too. - So I definitely think that that, 'cause you know, the end of the day money is like, it's important. - Yeah. - It's great that you guys like to tour, because for any artist, I always say, that's really what, I've always defined success for myself by continuity. If I can continue to do something. And if I can continue to go on tour, sell out shows, then I can continue because people are buying in and I'm able to continue to invest and continue on. And so, I think, you know, the fact that, but it's also one of the hardest things to do. So the fact that you guys can get up, go, be ready on the road, hit it and do your thing, that's like, hats off to you. It takes a lot of discipline and things. It's not easy. Okay, what is the craziest tour story that you actually can share? - Okay, this is another one of like, the ones that people do this (beep) this question. - We need to like, do you just crazy? - No, I don't think that's an awful crazy one. - Like it is ridiculous. Who did this? - Because we don't have an awful one. - Yeah. - But there's one, I can give you like a beautiful moment. It's not crazy. - We don't need it. - We don't (beep) - We don't need it. - I'll tell you about that mechanical ball ride. We're caloning. - Oh my God, yeah. - I don't know what it is. - Yeah, that was intense. - Was that a first mechanical ball moment? Do y'all do that in London? - No, no. - Oh, it's an American thing. I guess it could be. - Yeah, Carol Boy. - It's like, okay, it was really fun though. Like, we've all tried. - How long did it last? - It's gonna be like 20 seconds. - It's like, what if you just gave us our odds? - I don't know. - I love that. - I think it's an interviewer. (laughs) - What about this? - What about? - I'm a fine saucer. K let my girls down. K let my girls down. - Thank you. - Okay. - I had to be on point for you. - So yeah, that's interesting. First mechanical ball ride with K Lonnie. She's a lot of fun. - Yes, it's a lot of fun. - Yeah. - Cool. (laughs) - Great, we'll be moving on. In the Guardian, 2023. - Uh-oh, uh-oh. - You said, coming in as a girl group, a black girl group, we have to kick the door down. We can't afford to be half-aused. They really spelt it Britishly. - They are. - Yes. - Yes. - So when you say kick the door down, I mean, what were the actual doors for you? And I say it specifically 'cause as a black woman, we all have our, we know we're not a monolith. So what we feel like we are up against is unique to all of us. So for y'all, what were your major things? And then the black British of it all, as opposed to the black American of it all. - Yeah. - I. (laughs) - I'll be quick. - I think it was really just about the relationship we had going on with the label. That was definitely our initial like issue in the beginning. It's like definitely grown leaps and bounds, like where we are now. But rewind, it was like really hard. And I think it was just balancing the fact that we were young and lacked experience in the industry. But we also had really strong opinions. So trying to make sure our opinions and like our desires were being met, but whilst also kind of having to be like the three black girls, young black girls that didn't really know what we were talking about. - I didn't know how to speak the language of the industry. - Thank you. - Because we knew exactly what the culture would desire from you as a group. - Exactly. - It's a very hard combination. Cold switching and learning the language, but not letting the language define your artistry and that bit. You know, yeah. - It's the best balancing act. - That was literally my answer. I think it's like, should we give you a high five? - Oh. - Did you think I was doing it? - You should get me out of that, I think. - Very weird what you did when we were on "Baby to Keep Home" earlier. (laughing) - No, yes, oh, true, it's like, I think people seeing our passion as a passion and not as we're saying you're wrong and you're against us, you know? It's like, we actually all have the same goal here. But I think that's also been for us to learn, you know, how to really be respected. But yeah, in that way, you have to learn their language and speak their language for them to, you have to make them feel special in a lot of ways as well. - Yes, you do. - Chess, check us. - There was also that like,
like we don't want to be perceived as like angry and aggressive. I'll be honest, personally, I didn't care. I was just willing to do that because I'm just like, this is what we're not gonna do right now. We're not gonna do that right now. - Yeah. - So if that's what has to be done, that's what has to be done. And there's been like a lot of having to kind of undo, but it was worth it. - It was necessary. - Yeah. - It was so worth it. - You think you want to do that? You don't have to. - I don't think you should check it in. - I feel like perception and identity, not necessarily with the industry, but with like fans and people that look at us with something that took a long time to figure out in the vella. And was always kind of like in the back of my mind, like, 'cause you know, people see a group and they put all their opinions on it. But it's just something that evolved with time because we couldn't really base ourselves on other groups. Like people would always be like, who is flow? Like, and we would just. - I don't know. - We're just figuring it out. - It's us, right? - The album. - Yes. - It's flow. - That's, thank you. But yeah, that was definitely something that took a while and we're still figuring it out, but we're in a better place now. - Who do you think people want? And maybe you don't know. But who do you think people want it flow to be? - I think, I think there were, obviously there was like a lot of Destiny's child comparisons. But then that was also like hard for. I mean, come on, Destiny's child. - It's like the biggest compliment ever, but then at the same time, there was definitely a, you know, there was a very clear dynamic between that group which we didn't want anything to do with. And also again, like, I mean, they was dancing, they were singing, like we still have like a long way to go before we reach like that standard, which we are, you know, working towards. So that was kind of. But we never like, we never hate to be compared to them. - Yeah, you're just saying that people kind of didn't have a reference of a North Star. So they chose the highest one that is obviously remarkable and great, but also different from you guys as well. And, you know, you're comparing me to somebody that's been around for 30 years, we just coming up. So I totally get that. I really do. And it's like the British of it all, right? I feel like, I mean, I know a couple of artists, you know what I'm saying, but I feel like the, how much do you feel like it's your duty to bring that representation into your music? Or do you feel it at all? You know, 'cause music influence is music influence. I don't know how much you feel influenced by the British R&B scene or not. - Yeah. - I mean, we're definitely more influenced by the American, just 'cause there's more of it. And it's incredible. It's started over here. But we love being British. - Yeah, yeah. - And there I go, Creepsin, you know? - Yeah. - You know, I mean Spice Girls, for sure. I love Spice Girls, you know. I love, you know, my man Craig David. - Okay. Craig David. I mean, he's great, you know what I mean? But I always ask that when I think about the diaspora, it's like all of our different influences and how we all feel heavy to represent it in our work, you know. - I think it helps 'cause we're British. - Yeah. - We're different. - Yeah. - Like that's definitely the thing we love the most about kind of like British music is the authenticity that like came with it. - Mm-hmm. - That is I think where we try and like, channel of Britishism by just being like, also authentic. ♪ Baby, this is Kiki Poma, yeah ♪ - In every great production there is the star. And then there's the thing that makes the star look good without ever asking for credit. Think about it. The right lighting paired with the perfectly timed music cue. 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Order now on the app. - You guys have already had love from people like Brandy, Missy Elliott, Kelly Rowlin, JoJo, Sizzah. I mean, the list goes on. And Missy actually jumped on Flag Girl, which was crazy. Who is a dream collaborator that you think could usher in a new era of flow? Or just give you guys a little something different that you never did before? - Something different. - Well, I feel like Brandy would give us something real. - We have to take that off. - This is giving me-- - Day, day, day 200 of asking, Brad. - Brandy please. - But that would be an easy thing. - Yes, I feel like it would be a really elevate. - Yes, I mean, we just have to. - I would love to see our brand. - That's definitely a dream. - Even if it doesn't come out, I just, we can learn so much. - I would love to drink the dream to pay in something for you. - Ooh. - Yes, yes. - We've been trying to get in with the dream for a minute as well. - I think that would be seconding. I would love to love to see that. Y'all in the dream would give me some excitement. (both laughing) Okay, so, I mean, you kind of already said this. I was gonna bring this up, but you kind of already said where you don't have this issue with letting your confidence lead. Because I think sometimes, especially as black women, and as women in general, everything can immediately be seen as arrogant. If you're just trying to be confident and bring it to the table. But I know, Georgia, you said like, I don't mind being that person and wearing that mask, if that's what it's gonna have to take. And so, I imagine that's kind of how you guys all feel. - Yeah, I mean, I think confidence and arrogance, there's a very fine line. And I think the line is not so fine when you're not white, that makes sense, yeah. Like, 'cause we are confident. And like, maybe sometimes, that is a bit of arrogance. But I don't think there's anything wrong with it. - Yeah, there's nothing to do with it. - It's from pairing. - Yeah, it's not that we think we're better than anybody. Like, it really isn't, it's just, we've also seen how much we've grown. And we know we have in our back pocket, like we really, we're proud of us. - We're proud of us. She's full, like, you know? - So, it's not arrogance, but you have to, you have to know your (beep) - Yeah. - To get something. - Otherwise, how's anyone else gonna believe it exactly? - Oh, I absolutely love that. Let's talk about your second album, Therapy and the Club. - Hey! - Therapy at the Club, it's crazy. - I love the title. - We have the same issue. - Yeah. - For a long time. - You mean like, Therapy and the Club too, right? - The Club, which is grammatically correct. - Yes, I mean, you know. - But as we all know, the club will very much turn therapy real quick. What are the different ways that the club has turned into therapy for y'all? Like, have y'all been in there being like, come on, girl, let's get it together. Have you run into an ex or a type of a situation? Like, what are your, are you even in the club? - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - When we come back, it's another fun to see. - Honestly, no, this one's real. I feel like every time I go to the club, it's therapy. Like, there's a different thing to overcome or to just like, I ever need a pep talk or I need to find somebody or I need to have a fun night with my girls or I'm in the bathroom and I need somebody to help me get it together. - Okay. - Every single time, didn't work too fast. - I feel like if I'm going to the club, I'm already in the therapy. 'Cause that's the only reason I'm going. I really go to the club to have fun. I go to the club to forget that life hasn't been fun. - Yeah. - To be quite honest. - You're doing a lot of our work on this thing. - Thank you. - 'Cause that's thank you for that club. - Yeah. - I would say that, for me, I find that going to the club, there's almost like no consequences. Like, I think outside of the club, I can really struggle with confrontation, as in confronting my feelings. But in the club, once, at least, a little bit loose, I'll be telling everyone the things I don't like about them in a respectful way. But I'll be like, yeah, like, you know, like, I'm going to go on, I know that's right. 'Cause it's just way more like lighthearted in that situation. And I feel like I know there's 100% going to be resolved after it, because I'm in the club. How can we, we can't argue in the club. - So you know when I stab hating you? I never knew you did. (beep) That's too funny. So do you guys feel very British in there? You like a little bit?
drink because one thing I do love when I go to London is that they're not afraid to have a drink. Oh, We got a drink. We all right. Yeah, honestly, when we found out that it was a 10 30. I was like, sad, like, We need to have a cocktail of the time wrong. Yeah. I'm here for that. Yes. Girl likes to. Okay. So what can we tell the fans to expect for this new era and this new album? A flow. Hardwares. Yeah. We're taking things very seriously, like, we really assessed the last album and what didn't work. What went well? What went better? Yes. We did some PE analysis. Like, right? Yes. Point everything. What did it explain? Oh, I love that. Did you have any moments where you went back to some of the team members that gave you push and were like, maybe I'll write about some things or were they wrong about everything? There was a lot of different opinions, even within our team. Yeah. Everyone's so opinionated, which is really good because we like opinions, how are we going to make a decision? But it was hard because we were all so kind of divided at times in our thoughts. Yeah. But like Stella said, point evidence explain like a good PE or change everyone's mind. Yeah. And that's proof in the pudding. Yeah. Like, we really all can see now. Yeah. Like, we wanted to do a lot of stuff after the album, like acoustic things, more videos and it just didn't happen. But I think now the last album. Yeah. Okay. So now we know how to like plan ahead. Like, we really have the whole year planned. How to distribute budget. Yes. And like, even yeah, like, where are we putting money? Yeah. Like, what are we need to really get into the details so that everything's pulled off? Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love that, you guys, because that's really like and it's hard to be like, damn, you have to think about that, but we have to tell people like, when somebody wants to be a pop star, when somebody wants to be an artist, like, you also have to be a business person. Yeah. You must know what you're working with and how to actually properly distribute your money. And like you said, PE, you know, what money actually is going to make money come back in? Exactly. Because a lot of times you think it's like, we need more music videos, like, actually, you need more shows or it's like, we need more x, y, and z, actually, you need more, but you know, so it's like, yes, I just love that because you save yourself so much time and so much people coming after you for the money you didn't give them back. Yeah. Well, not, yeah. No, we're in a good place. Yeah. Well, you know, we're definitely like in the red, but like, who is it? No, it is definitely is. You always. Yeah. And we're definitely like, we, we just need to keep coming. Yeah. We just need more money, please. Like, you know what? They honestly like to give you more money because they're like, now they're with us forever. Exactly. They're like, how about 20 million? We have even gotten that. You'll be like, 50, like, we still, we're going to flow album 55. But as long as we have many remakes, are we okay? As long as like, we are happy, then I'll be honest with you know, really like, it's nothing. Yeah. You know, it's a business. Yeah. It good days, bad days, whatever, it's continuity, sustainability, as long as we able to keep on going, we're done. We're good. Okay, let's talk about Leake it because, you know, you guys are our R&B group, but this leaned a little bit more pop and you gave a little like, you know, they grabbed a different kind of attention. So did it make you guys be like, well, let's lean more into that pop back or were you kind of like, no, no, no, we did that once. We want to rain it in and make sure we stay true to our core. Well, I think we'll be true to our core with any type of genre of song that we do because it's all about how we sing it and the harmonies and the group element. But this Leake it reflected like a time of pop that we loved when like, people were making pop music and singing down and like, there's not too much of that nowadays. So we were just kind of like, why can't we? There's not too much of that nowadays. But like, we absolutely can, so why not? Yeah, yeah. We also like, I think, I mean, me personally, I don't really look at us and think we're an R&B group, if I'm completely honest. I think the songs of ours that perform the best are all pop, cardboard box, walk like this. I mean, low key fly girl in my bag. Like, I think it's very to say that we're just an R&B girl group is why are you guys saying that? I think we all know because of the shade of our skin. And yeah, I just think that we we want to take up the whole, yeah, the whole space. Yeah, that's what we're striving to be. I think it's, I think like at the beginning of our journey, we wanted to be like known as an R&B group. We didn't want people to think that we just make, I don't know, we wanted people to know we make R&B music. I mean, it's like feeling. It's like I think about Janet Jackson, like, Janet Jackson is a pop artist. Yeah, I mean, but she's black and we live for ourselves around and she give us R&B arrangements when we need them, but it's at the end of the day, like she's a pop star. Yeah. And I really live for when I get to see us in those spaces. I got love pop star vibe. There's nothing I love more. It's given Britney Houston. So it's like that vibe. And so I love, I totally agree with you guys. And I know it's not any shade to any genre, but it's this idea that like we're taking up all space by being a great group and bringing great music. Exactly. So, you know, but maybe if you if you actually gave us 10 hut, it would be no problem. Oh, okay. I want so funny though. Is that conversation comes up more the time? We tried. We really tried with that song. I was like, you know, honestly, I love that. Gotcha. Just a little round. Just a little round. Guys, where did you hear that song? Honestly, don't worry about it. Hello, Oleneke. I have spied. You know, I said the girls are coming through the show. What should I ask? Oh, wow. And I'm actually really sad because we're running out of time. No, this is really, really sad. No, we need to extend a bit. I'm going to ask you guys one more question. And then we're going to do a game. Okay. And then we're probably going to go get drinks. No. Okay. So, you know, it's to the fans that are watching. It could be guys, girls, thems, days, anybody that, you know, looks up to you guys or just loves you as a group. What would you say to them? Like if there's like a mission statement for flow like as your girls, what would you say? Or what do you want to say to them? Hang in there. Yeah. Thank you for hanging in there. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for believing in us. We really needed your support and to spread the rain. I think it's all rain. I just agree. It's happening. It's like, wait, no, yeah. Maybe we can turn off. You know, we couldn't have done it without you. Like a big part of flow is our fan base. So we are in this position because of you guys. We will must continue to spread the word and spread the mission guys. We need to become the biggest girl group of our generation. We need to go down. We thank you for already letting us become. Yes. That's my biggest group. Thank you for giving us this space to do that. Thank you for supporting even if sometimes you don't love something. Like you still love us through it. Yes. We appreciate that. They let you be you. Yes. Thank you. Not letting us explore, experiment. Like it's such a journey. And I feel like there's never we've got very forgiving. Just a forgiving community. Yeah. You know, they give you space because we be forgiven some of y'all. Let's we forget. Come on. Okay. So I love to play game with all my guests. I'm going to take you guys down memory lane of some R&B girl groups that have, you know, possibly inspired you and I know y'all be doing y'all, right? But I'm going to read a lyric from a classic 90s or 2000s girl group. And you're going to, you know, let me know what that group is. But honestly, I feel like you guys are going to get this so easy and it's trying to make it hard, but it was really hard to make it hard. So here we go. Let's say that because if we do badly, it's embarrassing. Hang it out. The passenger side of his best friend's ride. Try and tell her about me, TLC. That you say the wrong. But you know what it is. I saw you. You know, I felt you. She knew. She knew that song. She did. Okay. Because my heart starts beating triple time with thoughts of loving you on my mind. Oh my mind. I can't figure out just what to do when the cause and cure is you. Yeah. I guess so. We can in the knees. I can hug. You have an eye. That's why they gave me the most life, girl. Please. Oh my gosh. Okay. Never going to get it. I don't know the name if I'm completely on it. Anybody? No, I wasn't going to give you. Is it like throwback, throwback, vogueing and that was good. That was good. But they are one of those groups sometimes when we know their song. Okay. We go kick off your shoes and relax your feet.
- Kick off your shoes and relax your feet. - It's not kick off your shoes, relax your feet. - Okay, okay, it's you. - No. - But you sound so right. - The way, this is y'all in the studio, 'cause the way that you found a hook for that, kick off your shoes, relax your feet. - Yeah! (beep) - Like that was actually, you need to keep that in your back pocket. - It's kick off your shoes and relax your feet. Come on in party to the escape feet. Just kick and just kick. - Relax! - Y'all don't know the thing. - So that's candy, y'all don't candy from how I was in the escape. - Escape. - Okay. - You couldn't pick the different escapes. - I was trying to make, I told you I was trying to make it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Okay, last one. We moonwalked the fox trot, then polka the salsa. And I wasn't familiar with this with them. So maybe I should try to give you another one of them. Because when I read it, I said, I'll wait a minute. Okay, let me give you another one, but it's gonna be that same group. Hold on. 'Cause everything is such a hit with them. You can go from like a second bus. - So here's a story from A to Z. - You wanna get with me, you better let's go. (laughs) (singing in foreign language) - She's a real lady. - Yeah, now you'll see. So everybody down the line is all around. (singing in foreign language) - Well, there's that song for me. - You know how you start like (beep) ♪ If you wanna be my lover ♪ - You gotta have got to take in. ♪ Take in is too easy ♪ ♪ But that's the way it is ♪ ♪ So wanna think about that ♪ ♪ How you know how I feel ♪ ♪ What's yours ♪ - Guys, that was a huge hit. - That's such a good song. - And thanks to you guys, we get more British girl group. - Yes. - I really have enjoyed spending time with you ladies. You absolutely bring the flow. (laughs) - Okay. - Stop. - Come on. - I'm actually killing me. - Thank you. - Okay, hug. (upbeat music) - This conversation right here is why I do the podcast. Real women, real friendship and a direction. Okay, it is easy to look at a group like flow and only see the success. What I've heard today is something much deeper. Okay, they are focused. I heard three young women who have figured out how to hold onto each other and what they did this for. Because the truth is, talent might get people's attention, but trust, purpose, and sisterhood is what can keep a group together. Flow is not just making music, okay? They are creating a blueprint. A blueprint that says, "We don't have to compete to be successful." And that friendship and vulnerability aren't weaknesses. That's a message any of us could take right now. I'll see you next time. On Baby, this is Kiki Paul. ♪ Baby, this is Kiki ♪ ♪ Baby, this is Kiki Paul my yeah ♪
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
FLO (Georgia, Stella, and Renee) is a British girl group gaining global recognition in modern R&B, known for harmonies, style, and genuine sisterhood.
They faced industry challenges as a Black girl group, including label pushback, having to "kick the door down," and learning the industry's language while staying authentic.
Their fan base, built before major hits, is supportive and honest, contributing to their success; they emphasize community and live shows as key to their journey.
They were the first British girl group nominated for a Grammy in 20 years, which was unexpected and humbling, though they lost to Dernst "D'Mile" Emile II.
The group defines success through real-life impact, fan connections, and tour sustainability, not just awards or streams.
Their new album, "Therapy and the Club," reflects a business-minded approach, using analysis (e.g., P.E.E.) to improve and plan, while exploring pop sounds beyond R&B labels.
They navigate comparisons to legends like Destiny's Child, embrace their British identity, and aim to be the biggest girl group of their generation without losing their friendship.
Summary:
In this interview with Kiki Palmer, FLO—comprising Georgia, Stella, and Renee—discusses their rise as a British girl group in the modern R&B scene. They share their journey from early days in college, where they met and formed the group, to navigating label dynamics and industry politics. As a Black girl group, they faced challenges, feeling the need to "kick the door down" and prove themselves, often learning to speak the industry's language while maintaining their artistic identity.
Their fan base, built organically before their first hit, remains supportive and honest, helping them stay grounded. The trio highlights the importance of sisterhood, with roles that shift fluidly, and they credit their single mothers for instilling a "boss bitch" attitude of determination. They reflect on their Grammy nomination as the first British girl group in 20 years, which was unexpected and humbling, but they don't let awards define success—instead prioritizing live shows, fan connections, and sustainability.
Their upcoming album, "Therapy and the Club," showcases a more business-savvy approach, using analysis to improve and expand their sound beyond R&B into pop. They address comparisons to legends like Destiny's Child, embrace their British authenticity, and express gratitude to fans for allowing them to explore and grow. Ultimately, FLO aims to become the biggest girl group of their generation while preserving their friendship and individuality.
FAQs
Flo is a British girl group made up of three members: Georgia, Stella, and Renee.
Flo are spending more time in LA than at home in London. They plan to potentially live in LA beginning next year, partly because they find London more expensive than LA.
Flo developed their sound with help from producers like MNEK and Jamalville, who taught them a lot about writing songs and what to look for in production. They also had access to studio time through their label, Island.
Flo had to convince their label to release their debut single 'Cardboard Box' by creating a PowerPoint presentation. The label initially thought it was too early, but the group was confident they needed to come out strong.
Flo handle conflicts through democracy, where two out of three members agreeing makes a decision. They also stay grounded by being self-aware and not feeding into online negativity, knowing each other's strengths and weaknesses.
Flo were surprised by their Grammy nomination, as they didn't expect it. Being the first British girl group nominated in 20 years, it gave them a boost of confidence and motivation, even though they didn't win.
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