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(upbeat music) - Yup, it's all the main to go. - Andrew Show. - We are the brilliant ideas podcast back for another week of brilliant edit and ads. - Yes, we are. - Yes, we are. - Chris, okay, oh great, okay. How you doing? - We are here talking, man. We was talking so much shit before the podcast even started, bro. - No, we was stereotyping, you know, this is what we do really good on this show. - That's how we warm up for it. - We stereotyped Chris, you know, who is our resident Jewish Azen. He has two things covered. - Yes, yep. - And you say that Jewish Azen is what Charlotte is. - What does it say? - No, it's sounded, I don't know. - What you going to do now? (laughing) - I just want to clap for her. (laughing) - It's not a live audience talk. - He's not a Jewish Azen. - I don't know, I thought he said Jewish Azen. - Okay. - He's our Jewish Azen. - Both, he represents Israel and the one. All right, hand brooklyn. - And Ireland. - And Ireland? - No, I don't do that. I'm tired of motherfuckers claiming Ireland, bro. - But be about it. - I'm about to claim it in a very big way. - Really? (laughing) - God damn it, bro, I'm done, he got him out of here, all right? - Thank you. - I'm done, he got you out of here? - I have strong Irish roots and I'm embracing them. It has nothing to do with anybody coming in or out of power. - Can't get the fuck out of here. - You've seen this guy all the sudden want to be Irish? - Chris, you brought up a good point. You said, would you say about Jewish lawyers? - I said Jewish lawyers are about to be done. Chad, CBT is taking me. No, what happened is Chris said you need the Jews where the best doctors and where the best lawyers. - Yes. - You said Indians took over the doctors, which is true. - That's a fact. - Lawyers, Chad, CBT might come for that. - Yeah. - Not in terms of being in the court. - A certain type of lawyer that only works with contract. - Just look at the contract, Chad, CBT, gonna look over everything. - The lawyer who's a deal maker or a connector, a job finder, they're always gonna have a role. - Okay. - But if you're just pushing paper, you got a problem. - Yes, go on, go on. And then what else were you saying? - Oh, he's a taken over Hollywood. - Oh, Saudis are taken over Hollywood. Thank you so much. That's the other thing I said, I said Jews, you gotta start producing movies again. You spend too much money on A-packing. You spend money on A-pack, which is Hollywood. - Damn. - And then you need to put that fucking thing down and start making the movies that we love. - Damn. - We love these movies. - Damn. - I don't know why we started talking about that. We used to be a profiler, or whatever reason. - Yeah, did we already get to racist? - No, no, no. I don't think it's racist at all. I think that we're thinking about the future. We're thinking about where the world is going. - Where is the world? - Yo, because you gotta think, you know, for people like us who, you know, we do profile, we do stereotype. - Who does that? - I'm just, I mean, like in a good way though. - I don't, like jokingly, like in a good way. - I don't do, I don't even believe it. - Yo, somebody says something about, I was doing a podcast earlier. - Don't you put the shit back on. - No, I'm not joking. I promise you, I was doing a podcast earlier with somebody and they was like, you know, Andrew has the whole racist aesthetic and I said, why, because he's white? - Yeah. - Yeah. - No. - Who did that? - Yeah. - He had to laugh. They was like, put the little mustache. - Yeah. - Oh my god, little. - Put the little for a movie. Notice when you had the little joint. - I never had a little one. - You never had a little one? See how y'all are so racist. - Yeah. - Oh, you took about the haircut. - She did say the haircut. She said the haircut, the mustache. - Who is this bigot you were doing a podcast? Who's this bigot? - I heard it down though, but it was just, it was just funny how we like profile and she had a whole perspective of you. - I know. - Because of your political views, which she did say she's seeing you change. - There's no change. - There's no change. - You just don't know my political views. You watch a TikTok on my political. - No, no nuance. - There's no nuance. You just saw what people told you. - This is the-- - There is nuance. Like, yes, I give it a second. My point is like, it's like this is something good going on. It's, it's, it's, Charlemagne is this type of person. Well, why do you think that? - Well, 'cause I saw a 30 second TikTok that said he's that type of person. And then they meet, if you're a game. - Yeah. - And then they meet you and they're like, all right, sometimes 10 talk is right. But it doesn't mean it's not always, you know what I mean? It's not every single talk. - That's a big talk. - You know what's funny? You know what's bad funny? It's like people like, oh, Charlemagne just pretends about that gay shit. And then they'll be at some like cheerleading conference and be like, nah, he's about that life, you know what I'm, I'm not a bugger, every weekend is watching cheerleading. What's going on with this guy? - Yeah, by the way. - That shit is crazy. - You know what pisses me off when you be at cheerleading competitions and somebody be like, you're showing me what you're doing here. - Yeah, like you can't. - What the fuck you mean I'm doing it? My daughter cheers you mother fucker here. - That's the fuck you think I'm here scoping out the scene? - Wait a minute. (laughing) - You fucker. - All right, so why'd they say it? - Yeah, enough. - You know what I'm saying? - You're a fan? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You gotta lean in. - What the fuck? - My daughter cheers you mother fucker? - Yeah, what a piece of shit. - All right. - Anyway, point is is like people get all their information for TikTok, then they sit down with you and then they realize that you're not this version that somebody made up of who you are. - 6, 7, bro. - It was 6, 7, 6. - It was also 7, 6. (laughing) - That's 7, 6. When it's bad, it's 7, 6, you know what I'm saying? - When it's true, it's like, you know, everybody has these perceptions, man. You just don't know what to do with it. - And then you sit down with them and they're like, oh, you've changed. It's like, no, you fucking idiot. It's like, you just didn't know who I was. You let someone on the internet say who I was and then you found out who I was and you assume that all of a sudden I've just changed who I am. - Well, people should be able to critique. I should be able to make a decision. And then later on, I want to critique that decision. I should be able to do that, right? So let me ask the question, Alex, you a, you a, you a mondani, right? - I'm bone per mondani. - Yeah, you're a, you doubtable mondani, right? Mondani comes in the city, doesn't get anything done. People start critiquing him like he's a regular politician because you know how it is. - I already love the honeymoon phase. Don't you get anything done, they on you ass. They ain't going to egg long, right? Are you not going to critique him? - Of course. - Absolutely. And then when you critique him, what should people say? - They should say, that's good that you're holding. - They shouldn't call you MAGA. They shouldn't say you're a Republican. They shouldn't say you're xenophobic. - So they say, this is what you ask for. - That's what they're gonna say. - Of course. - No, they should say this is what you voted for. 'Cause it is. - Exactly. - What's your vote? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And it's okay. - But it actually, - No, but it's not what I voted for. - But if he doesn't do the thing that I want him to do, then it's. - Oh, hey, whoa, whoa, don't say that. - Oh, don't say that. - You can't say that. You can't say, you voted for whatever he does. Even if he does things that he never said he would do, you didn't want to do. That's what you voted for. - Isn't that wrong, you in love, mom? - Nah, I mean, you shouldn't want to. - Yeah, but you are. We talked about it last week. - No, always. - All politicians love, mom, you give up some ass. And then you may or may not regret fucking them. But if they do a good job, you don't go a little deeper. - It is, it is, you're crazy. - What? - You're crazy. - Listen, we all hope that whoever wins does things that help New Yorkers in this great city. That's what we all hope. - Clearly, that's what we-- - That's our role. - So I don't mean just want to see the world burn. - Yeah. - I really don't, - Yes you do. - No, I don't. I want to have pockets of peace where I know you know what, I, at least we cool here. - You know what? - I know if Mandani wins, which probably is, I don't want everybody to be prepared for what's to come. - You know what, when I-- - Well, coming to a lot of government overreach. - I do this podcast. - It's from you. - Every single week. - Yes. - And sometimes you'll say shit and I understand the feeling of that guy that threw the shoes at Bush. That's what I want to do to you. Multiple times throughout the podcast. I just want, even now, as you're chewing your bottle, but you can't realize I'm right later. - Yeah, it's maybe. - Who were you talking about? - George Bush, remember when to do-- - All the people in the Middle East. - Remember when he-- - Remember when he dumped the-- - Oh shit, damn. - The shoes? - God damn. All I'm saying is, when Mandani wins, - Yeah. - It's going to be government over me. Trump has already said it. Your man Tom, the, the, what's Tom's name? - Coleman. - My name is Tom. - Tom Homan. - Tom Homan. - Tom Homan already said it. Tom Homan says he wants Mandani to get out the way Bows Ice will flood the zone and then why I see. Damn! - We did that shit last week as just a little taste to let you know. - New Yorkers fought back. Like we do. - What did you do? - What did you put me in the fallback? I didn't think about it on Canal Street since. - Yeah, Canal Street. - Just talking about Canal Street. Give the motherfucker. - Is it? - What? - Yeah. - Damn. - What? - They hung, go on. - I will say there's a lot less clean Air Force ones on the street, so I'm not trying to call anybody out, but you were wearing the fakes. - Damn! - You were wearing the suit and knees Air Force once. - And we mean New Yorkers fought back. - Like when the Ice Agents were there, where New Yorkers, I was like getting in between them and the Sudanese people. - Well, guess what? Canal Street is clean right now. Ain't nobody on Canal Street. - Bro. - Okay. - I'll talk to everybody. Talk to the head head. - Canal Street. - Dude, dude, dude, dude. - But. (laughs) - Joe, be honest. If Ice came through with the vanilla ice cream. - I'm shocked they haven't done it yet. - Coming out the car like the-- - I'm shocked they haven't done it yet. - So Mr. Softy? - I'm shocked. - Mr. Softy, trust me. I ain't even seen it on Instagram. - You would laugh. You would hate why you did it. - But you would laugh. - You know they listen and I bet you give it two days. - And now you gonna see that album. - They'll do it, Alex. (laughs) - I'm gonna catch it and it's mouth like a seal at the fucking aquarium. (laughs) - No. - I don't like none of this shit. I'm just telling you what's going to happen. That's all. - And I don't want it to happen. I'm just telling you, you got to know it's coming. - Just say, we're not mature enough to have this conversation. - We are mature enough to have this conversation. - Are we mature enough to have it in a mature way? If you listen to the shit we're saying in between the lines, you'll get it. You'll be like. - Clap for that. (laughs) - I gotta give you a round of applause for that. But you said it was fire, right? - It's just rude, oh man. We're not mature enough to have this conversation in a mature way, but we're not mature enough to have it. - Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. - I'm telling you. - We can do it. - See ya. It's fucked up. It is fucked up. But that's what's going to happen. But why is fucked up shit funny? That's not our fault. God made it that way, right? Like he made us laugh at that shit, bro. Say again, Satan got a kingdom too. You think Satan is one of the sense of humor? Satan got a king. I'm just saying Satan got a kingdom too. Who put that in your head? Satan or God? Rip Dan Winkle most of the license name. Oh, yeah, it was something. I didn't even make I thought you were singing this whole. I am under pressure. That's the same. I know. So when I hear it, I think under pressure. I don't even think I saw his baby. Yo, Tom. Yo, you need help picking people up. Yeah, I got some body stuff. Chris is going home. Chris is going home. I think of you a choice, Chris. They're like, I'm going to my kids this weekend. I might get arrested if I see ice for why? For doing what? For doing what? What are you going to do in a being Chris? I'm not going to touch everybody. Ice pull up in the game. James Harden was scoring a hundred points of game. They they were guarding them like this. Yeah, with the hands behind the back. That's how you'll do. I'm going to hands behind the back. Let's talk about this now. I'm not initiating any contact. This is a good point to bring up. But I'm worried about the bathrooms in jail. How do you know when the intervene? What do you think is going to be in the bathroom? I have stomach problems sometimes. I don't know. But you think someone's going to use that title. You might need that. You might need that. You might need to let one. You let one guy do it. Your butt throws up on my face. People leave you talking about money. You know what? No, but it throws up. People leave you alone. If your butt throws up. Oh my god. You leave you alone. How do you throw about your butt? I mean shit if you go deep enough is just like when you put a finger down your throat. Yeah, but they don't call that butt throw up for Chris. They call that butt sauce. So worth all. So worth. So worth. So worth. Chris, which is a couple good point. Yeah. You do Chris. How do you know? When the interview you do because what if there they are actual illegal? Yes, well, what if the better argument is what if it's actually a violent criminal right and you intervene in the stop. That's not saying it's an illegal immigrant who's a violent criminal. Ice is actually doing what they posted. My calculation is they've so overstepped whatever sort of jurisdiction they have. So you'll protect the violent criminals too. No, I didn't say that. So what if I don't know, I don't know how do you know? I think you have to make a calculation that you're against the principle of what's happening. I'm against the principle. But aren't you for the principle of arresting violent criminals and saying illegal about them? Let me turn the other way or you against the arrest and people being detained who aren't violent criminals. Yes. Okay. So then you should be very upset about what's happening. I want you. But how do you know the difference? I said that should initially. Sure. You don't. And that's that's the unfortunate position that we've been put in is that we can't believe that they're going after violent criminals only. They're clearly going after everybody. They're where I mean, look, my belief on ice is that this is a test. This is the canary in the coal mine. We're going to flood these cities with mass armed men who don't seem to report to anybody who don't have to follow any sort of jurisdiction. And we're going to say it's about getting illegal violent criminals now, but it's really about seeing what we can get away with. So on that principle alone, I got to stand up against. I'm going to be honest with you, Chris. I'm not saying that you wouldn't out using my hands. I'm not saying you wouldn't, but I think that if you've never intervened during a police interaction, I don't want to Chris. But I'm saying you're not going to intervene with ice. You're not going to intervene with a police interaction because I'm sure throughout your life, you've seen police harassing people, probably assaulting people. If you've never intervened and that you're not going to intervene today, I've been in situations with cops than I generally fold. Yeah, so what makes you think you're going to stand up tight? See, people say, shit, that sounds good until it's actually time for some action. So you hear that? I think I'm fed up. I think I'm fed up. I think I watched the documentary about the umbrella protests in Hong Kong over the weekend. Oh, yeah. I saw where that got to. And I was like, but what they were processing tests since the sun or what was the why do agents hate the sun so much? What's wrong with the sun? It's hot over there. Yeah, crazy. Why? Crazy. Why am I crazy? You know they hate the sun. You a crazy guy, bro. So how do you know that the protest wasn't about anything besides that? It's global warming. I just want to know where you guys bail me out. If I step in on a situation, you guys are very well. I got to hear the whole story. Who do the whole story that Chinese hate the most Japanese? What's on their flag? The rising sun. When I'm right, I'm right. The umbrella protest, Charlemagne, was about the sun, the protest in the head. They're protesting Japan. No, stop. Would you bail Chris out? He asked you. I'm gonna let him sit there for the weekend. It depends. Yeah. What happened, yo? If you attacked the door, they say to me, if they say to me, yo, and they say, yo, there was some ice agents out here. There was harassing this old woman who's clearly a citizen. She kept screaming at you. You know, she's a legal, a legal citizen. Yeah. And so Chris intervened. I'd be like, all right, go get Chris. But they'd be like, yo, there was some illegal immigrants out here. They were violent. They all had warrants with, like, abuse or something. You're taking their word at that point. I got it. I'm fine. Their officers are the law. Why don't they lie? Okay, what if they say, hey, we told your friend that this was what happened? Yup. And he's still in a being. Yup. But I'm not touching anybody. No, no, but you intervene. I was in my opinion. You use your whiteness. I'm going to activate my white privilege for this situation. And then you're holding on to it for a long time. And now it's time to activate it. White people out there. We out there. I do like that activation. I like when white people use it. We got to be at the front of this shit. We got to step up. We're the ones who got to intervene peacefully. That's right. Nonviolently. Go ahead, Chris. No Kings. But it's on us right now. No Kings. No Kings. No Kings. No Kings. No Kings. I don't even like that as a framing for those movies. But anyway, why? I'm going to talk about it. It's almost a compliment. Oh, you're a king. No, no dictators. That's what this shit is about. It's not about no dictators. Respect the Constitution. How about that was common this whole thing with Buddha Judge. How about what? Oh, no dictators. Let's just how about. How about. How about we actually want the call to action to be? Oh, what does that mean? Like whatever the call to action is. Like a lot of people are calling for a general strike. Why not call it a general strike march. Like the no Kings thing was cool. I like the the amount of people that came out. But it's just like we don't have a king. I wish I had that much free time, bro. That's bullshit. That whole narrative. My daughter went. She said some old older women rolled on her and were like, you guys just need a job. You're not working. Yeah. That's some fucking talking point shit. Oh, okay. My, yeah. Look, my 82 and 83 year old parents marched in that shit. My, my father lifelong Republican. Don't they not have jobs though. They ain't retired. My dad does every job. He still works. But I seen a nine year old woman out this and she ain't never seen it like this. You know what the fuck she has seen at 90, 90 years old to say that from my father to physically go to a as a Republican to go to a protest. Yeah. Very significant. And the fact that then, you know, this guy releases a AI video of him shitting on people heads. That shit was fucked. Whatever. I mean, you know, you know, it's funny. We were talking about this. My parents had is not funny. But what your dad was in the video. Okay. Well, when you're talking about shit and your dad's head, you that's not becoming of a president. You know, if none of it is becoming like, here's the problem. Here's the problem. Here's a problem. It's like, I see it and I was talking to guys about this, but like I see a lot of other politicians trying to do what he does. Like, AOC tries to do it too. Like she's trying to like own people on Twitter. And it's like, if your if Trump just got a thing where he's funny, it is what it is. We all acknowledge us. He's funny. So he gets away with shit that most people can't get away with because he's funny. Oh, when I see the other politicians doing it, it just comes across so cringe. I don't think that they're getting a bridge. That's why the only one it works for is Gavin because Gavin is actually letting people know I'm mimicking him. Yeah. I'm not trying to do a cheap second rate version of Trump. I'm actually mimicking him. Yeah, but a mirror. It's the mirror. Gavin is just like such a social. I want to ask why Gavin won't do Rogan. Yo, what's up with that? I didn't get the chance to watch you in Rogan's episode, but I saw it on I was actually watching. I don't know if on Saturday. I don't know if they had a whole segment about about how he is. And it was playing the clip where you and Rogan talking about. And I was like, yeah, you got to get him on. And Gavin was on. I think Gavin was on how you're learning saying that Rogan won't have him on. Oh, yeah. Was it higher learning? Or he was on all the smoke as well. Maybe both. I think he was on all the smoke saying that he definitely was on all the smoke. He was funny. But why won't Rogan have him? I don't know. I don't know. I honestly don't think that he's against it, but I think the fact that like Gavin is trying to like bully himself on. I think Rogan's like, what are you like this? Not how you're going to get on my podcast trying to like tell me I'm short or tell me whatever. Yeah. But again, I don't know that's on him. I think he should have them on because I think he might get eaten up. Gavin's not in the position where he gets to go look at my work, look how great it is. People are leaving the state. That's the fact. So if you run the state, people are leaving, that's all the evidence you need to know that you're not doing a good job. You're not making it a place where people want to live. So if people are leaving the state that you're running, why would they want to stay in the country? that you would run if you ran for president. - Yeah, it's interesting with Gavin, 'cause you know, he touts the economy a lot. I wonder if the California economy is gonna be the same for a year from now. Even though he's not. - The California economy's not great. It's the same way it's like the American economy. There's like five companies propping it up. They just happen to be a couple. - To the phone valley. So it's a Hollywood. - It's not that. - Hollywood is awesome. - Why do I live here? - That's amazing. - I had this conversation with somebody yesterday. - They don't make movies there anymore. - Hollywood doesn't realize Hollywood isn't Hollywood. - No, they do. No, no, the workers do. - The workers do. - The executive, though. - Maybe the executives are like turning a blind eye to it, but like any of these producers, like I was talking to a producer, a street fighter, I was like, "Yo, why didn't we do this shit in America?" They're like, "Dude." He goes, "Make a movie in America." - Dang. - He's like, "That's like sneakers. "You can't do it anymore." - Oh, wow. - Like, it's just so nice. It's a quarter of the price to do it in another country to fly a hundred people out there, put them up for three months instead of just doing it in L.A. And it's like, that's all leadership in California. - Simple as that, like, you guys have to, you're hollowing out the industry that we know, L.A. 4. I don't know L.A. for anything else. - Listen, porn? - You know what's about to happen? - You know who the new Hollywood is, baby. Jersey. - No, you're not wrong about that. - Big Jersey, I've been telling y'all that for the past year. - You're not wrong about that. - Big Jersey lion's gate is in Newark. Netflix is in mother fucking mile mouth. - Big Jersey is where is that? - He's right. - Okay. - And shout out Jersey. I would like Jersey to have a redemption arc. What's your main Jersey poppin'? - Nah, I know it's poppin', but like the perception of Jersey, put it this way, like, Jersey got probably the most beautiful coastline that exists in America. And we look at the Jersey Shore as a kind of like trashy place or whatever, but the coastline is like stunning, right? - You got amazing suburbs. - Sun, I know, we're making the same argument here. Like, we're on the same page. So it's like, I would love it to become a hub for entertainment and also, like, filmmaking. And then, displace this idea of what we think Jersey is based on Jersey Shore and like, housewives. - You know, how it would used to be in Jersey? - I know before they went to, what's your call? 'Cause Edison was charging 50% tax on all the cameras. - Yeah, bro. - Lion's Gate is in Newark. Netflix is in fucking mom mouth, bro. - How fire would it be? And it's probably gonna be another studio comment. - Talk this shit, how fire would it be if we stole movie making, TV making from the West Coast and all that shit, it's like, we got the banks in New York, we got the films that are made in Jersey, we got, I mean, we gotta get a team that wins something soon, but like, why, the greatest place in the entire world? - It's going to happen. - By the way, ho ho. - Insha'Allah. - It's not even about if it's happening. Like, this shit is happening. - I know. - Netflix is being built right now in mom mouth. - Lion's Gate is being built right now in Newark. It's happening. - There we go. - Okay, I picked the perfect time to get into the film business. - There we go. - Okay, right there. - You don't even gotta move. - I moved right there, backyard, Jersey, what's up? - We need to call up Ryda. We need to get some of that Ryda money. - Come on, man. - Saadi, what's up? - Saadi, what's up? - Come to Jersey. - They started a film investment company for a billion. - I know, but they're trying to go over to LA. You don't need to be in LA for that. - They don't know about Jersey. - Because they got all the Hollywood execs in their ear telling them LA is the place. There's nothing Saadi. Jersey is the future. Invest in East Coast people. - There we go. - Invest in East Coast people. - There we go. - We got great ideas. All right, studios in our backyard, what's up? We got the audiences, what's up? Fuck with us, okay? - And the weather is shitty enough where we wanna stay inside and work. And LA everybody wanna do a brunch meeting. - But you know the beauty of the, the beauty of the Tri-State. New Jersey, New York, Connecticut. - We get all the seasons. - Yeah, but Connecticut even has to include in that. Nobody's really clocking Connecticut, right? - Yeah, Connecticut's fire. - To live, Connecticut's fire. - Like if you wanna see people who still wear baggy jeans, like yeah. - Well baggy is back, it's all a rage. But I'm just talking about Connecticut. - But you can't not do it now. - Connecticut is a dope place to live. I mean, Connecticut is fire. Like people, I know a man who got beautiful big houses and Connecticut is like 20 years behind. - What's wrong with that? - It was a better time. - 20 years behind. And then if New York gets this act to fucking gather and our tax dollars actually go to making this to the futuristic, then you just come into the future. - You gotta talk about a Texan Connecticut. - Say what? - How to Texan Connecticut. - Oh my god, Chris, man, you already got her problem. - It's a bottom bonus. - You're not in Cambodia no more, bro. What the fuck, you worried about the insects and the door dash, guys? - I was looking out for our listeners, right? - Connecticut is a beautiful place. - Beautiful. - Beautiful, man. I know some people that live in Connecticut, come into the city to work, go back into Connecticut. Like that is the greatest it costs to live in his Lord. - I don't like that shit. Jersey and New York pay these taxes like the rest of them. - No, you don't pay these, you too. - You ain't gonna be here much longer, bro. - What are you talking about? - Bro, you're not gonna be here much longer. You got the Hamptons already. - Jersey calling your name, bro. - Jersey calling your name. - What are you even talking about? - Jersey's calling your name, okay? All right, I get a lot of calls in my neighborhood. From a lot of, you know what's so interesting? - What? - A lot of my community and friends who went over the ride are all of a sudden house shopping. - Woo! - Isn't that interesting? Look down payment on something, huh? Okay. - I just thought about that now. - Okay. - A lot of my friends who went to mother fucking ride and doing some house shopping. - And Jersey and the neighborhood. And my neighborhood are surrounding neighborhoods. - Hey, don't you live in such and such? - Yup. - Damn. - I have to pay down something. - Damn. - Man, I have to pay down something, Charlotte. - What's the mess? - Do what you gotta do. What is Michael Blackson? He said not a rider. What's this talking about? He didn't go to Saudi? - Oh no, I think he's him and his girl broke up. - Oh, I saw that Roddy Darling responds after Michael Blackson apologizes for fathering another child. That was the most pathetic post our apology ever. Yeah, he was talking about this. I saw this conversation, but they were saying that they got an open relationship. So. - I don't like getting into this stuff, man. - He needs to, he needs to. - They were talking about our breasts coming this morning, and I'm just listening, and I'm like. - Yeah, that's sad, bro. - And just was like, shut up, and I was like, I am. - Yeah. - Yeah, okay, whatever. It's lute to Michael Blackson, man. If you're happy, I'm happy. I will say this, though. All of y'all need to watch 12. 12 is a movie that came out in the year 2000, okay? And it was about a couple who decided to spice things up by bringing another woman into their relationship. - Oh boy, oh boy. - Okay. - Oh boy. - Watch that, it's called 12, T-R-O-I-S. - You horny, huh? - I think that, no, I think that you know sometimes. - You're a horny guy. - We think grass is greener on the other side. - But grass is greener when you water it. Keep that shit wet. Yeah, oh. - Okay. - That was some unstuck right there. - That shit wet. Grass is greener when you water it. - So keep that shit wet. - That was fire. - Yeah. - Chris, what you think of that, man? - Fire. (laughing) - Damn, Chris is at the ad list. Well, I feel like where the me goes. (upbeat music) - Um, what else we got, man? What we got, Chris? Oh, this was funny. That mask got shuffled. You saw what Cam Newton got into the fight with the mask. - Cam not playing around, bro. - Cam, listen. - Start swinging on the floor. - First of all. (laughing) - But I don't think people understand about Cam Newton. And there's only two humans I've seen who look like they're in 3D. (laughing) - What? - Who look like they're in 3D? (laughing) - Boom, probably 40 at that point. - What should mean 3D, what? Everybody's in 3D. - Nah, bro. Some of us look too dimensional. Like I fall walking in the room right now and I'm looking at you. It's like you look like too dimensional. Like you ever seen when Motherfucking on Roger Rabbit when Roger Rabbit got ran over by the floor? - Doesn't he look like the bad guy from who framed Roger Rabbit in that picture? (laughing) - I can't believe you brought that up. - Cam Newton and Anthony Mason. - Oh yeah, Mason. - Look like they're in 3D. - No, they just look like they're like a different, like they're like species of, yeah, say human, yeah. - I've seen, I've been around plenty of big people like you gotta like walk around them. - Nah, I hear you on that one. - No, I'm saying like, God. - They're like from mefias, like they're the race of alien that started the human race. Do you remember Prometheus when he like dissolved in the water? - I thought it was Anunnaki. No, that is Prometheus. - That's in the book of Enoch, I think. - Yeah. - Anunnaki, the Giants. - That's how Cam don't look like a quarterback. - No, bro. He's a kid. - He's like, look up, Cam measurements, yo. - Okay, all right. - What? (laughing) - Let's see how fast. - No, he's measurements, Cam's measurements. What a Cam Newton measurement. He's six foot five, I don't believe that, yo. - You think it's all right? - Hell, have you ever met Cam Newton? - Nah, man. - Cam looked like he about six nine. He's 245, yeah, that's probably about right, but it's like muscular. So I can imagine how he was when he was out there like, playing and shit like that. How the fuck do you tackle a six foot five, 245 pound quarterback? That's agile, athletic, can run you the fuck over. I wonder if that's why he dresses so eccentricly. I wonder if it makes him in a weird way more approachable. Like wearing like the silly hats and the silly outfits, like, I wonder if it makes him less like intimidating. - I don't never think Cam be looking silly, bro. Why don't think we had this conversation before but I don't think can be looking silly like man I just I couldn't pull it off Alex you better not even open your mouth to talk about somebody with silly fits bro Well Al you said you did that with glasses you found that like people were less scared of you when you wore glasses Yeah, I did that back in the day, yeah But that's an interesting thing that you have to grow up with psychologically Yeah, but he dresses like a century Alex, how do you think you dress? I get flied as they're you look eccentric to me Yeah, you don't think I do if you think I do then how do you not think he does? I mean if that's the word you're using I think I just think can pulls off what he does The shit look I mean I couldn't do it, but he gets fly to me. I don't think you look wack Okay, yeah, you just look I don't think I gotta check you everywhere. No, no, no, no, I don't think you look wack I just you know it's gay, but it's not wack But it's not but I know you're not gay, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would call it like flame buoyant How does it do this so far That's what we're called lame boy, you know, that's what I would call it. I would call what you do flame buoyant You're a flame buoyant, Al That's my own shit. That's fine. No, you don't yeah, I like that You can't tell me that you haven't seen a couple of fits from Cam and be like that's your fly. Yeah, so when I see him, I see you Okay, that's a compliment. Yeah, I mean that's there. I mean, that's a silly like I take that they give like they get fly Like some people really put a lot in today fit and Cam puts a lot into his fits like That should be looking clean to me, but but Cam is different size than Al, you know and everything is custom That's the other thing I give Cam a lot of credit for for wearing custom. All that shit is custom, bro You give them a lot of credit for that. Yes Because that means that sitting down with people he's designing this shit probably. Yeah, like I don't know man. I we got here by talking about how huge Cam is though six foot five two 45 I don't even know why that mascot thought he could play with Cam like that was insanity That was insane. I really don't understand then he then it's like I he tried to snatch his hat off something crazy That play that maze clip Chris What's the maze clip what's mace up to mace had a good topic of discussion mace reveals craziest thing he's ever asked of a girlfriend Was for her to buy the ring to prove she was serious about marriage When I was first going to get um, I thought about getting married I asked her to buy the ring and she was serious. I thought that was left. You asked her to buy the ring? Sure That's right So this is fire man They did a live show I guess I think so What you think about that man. I think mace is just I think podcasting is one of the greatest things that has happened for people who are unique characters because I think mace as a rapper Is so much less dynamic than mace as a podcaster Because this guy like oozes personality and yes, he was a phenomenal rapper. We love the songs But I don't think you got like this side of mace Like you didn't get to see this like cool comp collective, but also like hilarious dude So I agreed you but I think can bring that a lot of that out too. Yeah, and respect I think they're a perfect dynamic respect to the chemistry between them and also the girl that hosted is great treasure Yeah, she's phenomenal, but uh, but yeah, like just getting to get to know Mace as like a person like some people get exposed by podcast you find out they're just not that interesting Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, when some people you get to find out that they're more interesting than you thought that one You know what you bring up a good point and I'm gonna tell you another reason why I came in mace podcast works because they have a base And what I mean by a basis their basis sports you know when you walk in like a Chipotle or a salad restaurant The first thing they ask you is what's your base? So you got to have your lettuce or your kale Chipotle got to be your rice whatever it is and you got to have a base as long as you got your base You could put whatever topping on the base also Harlem You know like the bait the bait, but go on go Harlem is an interesting place too Because people from Harlem act like they talk like Harlem is Harvard Like it's a place you go and graduate from yeah, yeah, I don't know if Harlem has as much to do with it bro I mean that like It's at least with camp specifically and again, I don't know that much. I'm just like casual on the outside It seems to him that being like the mayor of Harlem Is enough for him where there's some people like I just need to be famous all around the world It's always seemed to me that it's like a man. What's that? I asked him that specifically on breakfast club I literally asked him last time he was there was about a month ago. Yeah, I said people talk about Harlem like it's Harvard What does Harlem mean to you now yeah as opposed to when you were like 19. Yeah, 20 years old. What do you say? I don't want to mess up his wording because I know when people talk about the town and their cities It's different. Yeah, just basically was like It definitely meant more than him when he was younger. Oh interesting. Okay. You know what I'm saying? That's fair Harlem people talk about Harlem like it's Harvard Today compared to when you were like 18 they think the same for me, you know, I'm saying not not at all That's a great question because it's so gentrified Um, it's just not the same and I may sound ignorant for saying it, but I miss the band of buildings I miss the vacant lots and going up driving when we know walking to school and Almost stepping on glass and I'm saying that's good and then you shouldn't improve from that But that's just my memory of Harlem like when I see red lifestyle on hundred and twenty-fifty I'm like and 18 them I'll be like This is crazy, you know, I'm saying, but it's gentrified and you know to me everything, but y'all think about this too, right? Well, I live is gentrified next like with this nigga doing over here, you know, I'm saying so You might got somebody like yeah, why what the fucking remember when it was all white over here? You know, I'm saying so it's a balance, but just for me Harlem isn't what it used to be I'm not saying Harlem still ain't Harlem today, but just not the Harlem I grew up with now they are some people who I think like You know, they Harlem alumni like and I'm not a cam is definitely Harlem alumni Some people who just you don't rep it harder than others and then even just Harlem. It's like The world where in like if you come from a certain town and all you know is that City all you care about is being the man in that town Yeah, but you usually feel like that until you actually go see the world Yeah I'm not saying that the rest of the world is interesting, but in the same way that like while in gilly are Philadelphia first I always felt that way about cam it's like Harlem first doesn't mean that you can't tap into people around the world Doesn't mean that you can't or do everything, but like knowing that your identity is wrapped around this place This really important to you. I think even makes you more interesting Right because people are like oh, I get a I get a taste of what Harlem is like through this dude And I get to see how Harlem reacts to the world through that person same way with while in gilly where there are some people I think that like It's like they are for the world some people that works better But what I've noticed is like there's always longevity and having that that core identity in those I think that's yeah, that's the word. I would use identity like I think Gilly and while oh you think when I think cam and maze I think Harlem like what To that point Like it is what it is their basis sports yeah Million dollars worth of game their base is giving out game. Yeah a younger generation. Yeah, so you gotta have a base Just like drink champs their bases hip-hop stories older hip-hop artists are there to drink and tell the old story As long as you got your base you can build whatever on time and then you can talk about culture Like a lot of the stuff I'm watching when I'm watching not only while I was gilly when I'm watching like cam Mace that's just their reflecting on protein. Yeah. Yeah, you want beans you want chicken You want yeah, you can put it on top of that base on top of that lettuce that care to brewing idiots our base is idiots Yes, we're really idiots. Yeah, hey who aren't mature enough to have a lot of conversation. Thank you Okay, so as long as we got that base and we're good we can put whatever on top y'all the ones that started taking a serious Why would they do that? Why would they do that? Now I'm not saying that you can't get something out of this shit. Oh broken clock is right two times a day That's right, you know enough mean maybe more in the digital world See why you shouldn't take a serious That was vital that's one of these shit people repeat for no reason Dog is right twice a day, but not in the digital world All about the reaction then people will sit around feeling stupid like what did he mean by that? That shit was fired thinking far too. Well listen Mace reveals craziest thing he's ever done with a girl was asking for a ring. Would you ever ask a girl to buy you a wedding ring? No Buy herself the wedding ring. I think that's what he asked But what if the girl bought the wedding ring and then got on her knees to propose you? That's just crazy. You wouldn't do that You wouldn't accept it. Yeah I mean, I would accept it, but it's just crazy Equality broke. Yeah, you know saying we have all these conversations about gender the roles. Why can't a woman buy a ring and get on her knee and propose to me? But some of the best times of your life will be like when your girl knows you're about to propose, but you don't do it yet. She's just on good behavior for about six weeks. Don't lose out on that opportunity in relationship. Nah, mine was opposite. Well, yeah, we know. Yeah, she didn't know I was going to propose. Oh, why would she not think after 17 years that they wouldn't propose? Well, we give her that idea. We're together for 27 and we've been married for 12. Yeah, that's a pretty good ratio, bro. We've been married 15 years, 15 years. We've been married in high school. You let people live their life. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But I think the better reaction is when the woman doesn't know she's going to propose to and you surprise her. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. If she knows, it kind of like, eh, well, no, I think she should know it's coming. And then you just kind of milk that stage for a little bit. You should know she wants to marry you because the last thing you want to do is propose, and she says no in front of everybody. That's kind of why I like women doing it to men, because women need to get told no a couple of times. No, you don't think so. See, everybody wants to just jump to equality without letting the embarrassment that a lot of men have felt go to that other side. Like, you know, we need to see just a few more years of women getting down on a knee, proposing and getting embarrassed publicly. He had that, that is, that is heartbreak. And I watched that. Love is blind, man. That show was brutal, proposed. Did you propose? We just had a conversation. Wow. What was the conversation? Let's do this. It's the same thing, Chris. I didn't get down on my knee. Did you have a ring? We didn't have to. Oh, I don't. That actually got mad at me about the whole thing. Really? What do you say? We were going to Taiwan to see my in laws, and he was like, you have to ask her father for permission. No, I don't. That's some old fashion. God damn it, Chris. I agree with you. Yes. I agree with him on that. You asked you not then. What? Yeah, pieces of shit. I didn't. Absolutely asked my dad. My dad, my dad, how did you ask him? He said, this is very important to me. You need to do it for me. I don't care if it's important. So how do you ask her dad? Because he doesn't speak English. He speaks English. Oh, yeah. Oh, professor at Berkeley and University of Massachusetts for many years. I'm sorry, I apologize. No worries. So yeah, I spoke to him. I said, you know, we're planning to get married. I hope that's all right with you. You know, I'd like to make sure that he said that's fine. It's great. You know, we're very happy about it. Will you nervous when you ask him? Not really. Just do it. Whatever whatever's coming. There's no joke. I'm literally just trying to understand the emotion of the moment. No, I wasn't because I we had already discussed it and like that was the conversation. You know, and I was pretty confident that we're going to be all right with this. What about you, Alex? Yeah, what was your proposal like? It's funny. I didn't ask for permission. He just played that. I saw a father like after the fact and he's like, no, I'm glad you didn't ask me because she's not my permission to get boy. So he respected the fact that I didn't ask him. Yeah. I think you should do it out of respect. Like, you know, like, first of all, yes, I agree with what you're not father-in-law said. Is he a father-in-law? I mean, I think. No, not. Yes, I agree with what he said, but he knows whether or not his daughter wants to be with said individuals, especially if y'all haven't been together for a while. She knows best. She can make her own decision. It just depends like if you think women are like equal. If you think women are property, then obviously you have to ask the property owner before you can make a purchase. I thought you asked the dad to make sure that dad is cool with it, meaning like, I don't fuck with you like that. I don't want you to be back into my daughter. The way I look at it is like, if the dad is paying for the wedding, I'll ask. Yeah, I don't like that. That's the tradition that needs the fucking. But if I'm going away, if I'm paying, I know you got four dollars. We need movies and news jerseys. That's the fucking tradition that needs to go away. I don't know anybody that does that. My wife's father contributed to the wedding. Yeah, they do contribute and that's awesome. It was a nice contribution. Very nice and grateful. Yes. I remember your wedding. I loved your wedding. Oh, that was so fun, man. That was a good time, man. That was a beautiful little church or it was like a town hall or something. Yeah, Charleston, yeah. Was it a church or was it like the town, the city hall? I don't fucking remember. It was a great and downtown Charleston. I think it must have been a church. I don't remember. Remember when you did the whole ceremony? You remember your friend. No, I remember, but I don't remember the details of that shit. I didn't plan it. I just knew it would have been. Yeah, what's the board? Just go back. Remember the name of the location you got married at? Yeah, really. Yeah. What was it called? My in-laws house. In-laws house. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. I did not know that. Yeah. That was fun too. Weddings are great. Yeah, weddings aren't great. Wait, man. Weddings are fucking awesome, bro. Get fucking married, Joe. Get married. I remember you, man. No, I cry. I cry at everybody's wedding. It's the best. Weddings are great, but not when they're like a thousand people and you barely know anybody. No. When it's like the people that really know and care and love, it's the best film. 50 people max, you know what I'm saying? I think you could go over 100, but I think when you get in the 300, 400, nobody even likes you like that. That's the thing. It becomes like a community gathering instead of an actual celebration of love. And you want people there that's going to respect your marriage and respect the moment and not going to be on their phones. I made everybody put the phones away. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. Oh, you didn't. I was there. You know, took pictures the whole time. You didn't make anybody through. You are thinking about different weddings. You need to take nobody's phones because that technology didn't exist. No, we took people's phones, yeah. This guy is going to lie. You're going lie? I mean, we tell everybody don't take pictures. I don't know. I just know there was no phones and shit like there was phones. Hi pictures. I don't believe you got to show me the. I'll show you all the pictures. This is insane. Where do you want you? I don't know. I'm looking at pictures right now. It was a great time. I know that pictures. We had a great time. I got fucked up the night before. The y'all got in town. That's Saturday. We had the wedding. We had a great reception. I guess it was fun, man. God, then we old, bro. Yeah, we're old. Like we are old, like they're not old, huh? You're not old. I don't know. That's it seems so long ago. Andrew Wetton was what, 2022? Mine was 2014. Was my wedding in '22? Yeah, it was like Pete COVID. COVID was still around now. It was outside. It flew to California. It was COVID, bro. Really? Yeah, it was like. I remember it was kind of old, old but still. I told Rogan I was like, bro, I need a COVID test for you to come, you know, and then he, you know, he's like, he's like fine. And he sends me a picture with the middle finger. hilarious. Let's pay some bill. Everybody's still got COVID at my wedding. By the way, it was a super spreader event. I definitely got it. I believe he's supposed to go to Kabul. Yeah. We're supposed to go to Brazil. I think my wife planned that shit so I didn't look at these bitches in Brazil. You win? No, because we got COVID. I'll see y'all. We went to Miami instead. Same difference. Let's do some church announcements. Hezzy, what you got? I thought I had something. You got it, man. I fucking forgot what I had. Oh, man. No, I forgot what I had. I'll remember it. You go. I got two chains. The voice in my head is God, okay? Available March 3rd, 2026, man. My book in print, Black privilege publishing with Simon and Shuster. If you are a two chains fan, you are going to love this book. He talks about, you know, his spiritual journey, the spiritual journey behind his success, man. So you two chains, the voice in my head is God. Go pre-order that right now and go pre-order our senior Halls book, our senior, which will be out next year. Be a Black privilege publishing. Simon and Shuster, man. Pastor Jamal Brian encourages his congregation to donate to for gold donating to the church to donate to people losing their snap benefits. That's beautiful. Beautiful. During his recent service, New birth missionary Baptist Church, Pastor Jamal Brian encouraged his congregation to give back in a different way. According to 11 alive, this past Sunday was supposed to be a day for the church to raise $1 million. However, Pastor Brian is halting the initiative until the government shutdown is ended. He said to the news outlet, the congregation is supposed to be sensitive to the needs of the community. Knowing that people are literally just trying to keep their head above water, we're opening up our arms and opening up our hearts at the same time. The church already distributes groceries every other Saturday to about 1500 people. However, this coming weekend, they're planning to help up to 2000 people more than 40 million people receive snap benefits, which is around 22 million households that benefit. According to the Hill, there's an estimated $8 million that benefits distributed. It has already been confirmed that the USDA will not provide assistance. It's not benefits are cut due to a government shutdown. I'm going to tell you also, I'm the man and I said this already before. This government should shut down, it's not a political win for any party. - Can you explain what's happening? - Also shout out Christianity to Goat. - Well, shout out to Jamal Bryant, 'cause there's a lot of Christians out there. I don't know if they move in like this. I think-- - No, no, shout out to him, but also he's inspired by the greatness of Jesus Christ and if he wants to bless the world, like he has been blessed and do it in his image. So we have to give some credit to-- - Listen, I love it. - The King of Kings. - Listen, I love it. You know, I am an ambassador for the food bank in Harlem, New York City. If you see the amount of people who need this type of food assistance, you will understand why snap and wick, you know, not being available to people over the, if it happens, hopefully these people motherfuckers come to their senses and government and re-open shit. But if over the next couple of weeks, you know, there is no snap and no wick. Y'all better motherfucking protect your goddamn necks. - Really? - 'Cause if you think that during the holiday season, it's already the holiday season. Things given is right around the motherfucking corner and you got Christmas and everything else. You got people who haven't had checks in three weeks, right? And now you're taking away people's snap and the wicks. So now people can't even keep their food in their stomachs. Y'all better go back and watch two-pock 20 plus years ago when he was on MTV talking about what happened when motherfuckers really get hungry and they got to watch everybody else around them eat while they starving. - If I know in this hotel room, they have food every day and I'm knocked on the door every day to eat and they open the door, let me see the party. Let me see like they'm throwing salami all over the, I mean, just like throwing food around. We're telling me there's no food in here. You know what I'm saying, every day, I'm standing outside trying to sing my way in. We are hungry, please let us in. After about a week, that song is gonna change to we hungry, we need some food. After two, three weeks, it's like, you know, give me a little food, we're going out of the door. And after a year, you just like, you know what I'm saying? I'm picking the lock coming through the door blasting, you know what I'm saying? - Can you tell me what's happening with the government shutdown? Like do you understand it? Do you understand? - I do, to a certain extent, Democrats are trying to make a stand for healthcare, right? Like they didn't want Republicans to hike the prices of healthcare. They decided to say, hey, this little bit of leverage that we got, we're gonna, you know, not vote to reopen the government until they decide to not have higher healthcare prices, right Chris? And I think- - Am I saying that right? - Yeah. - 'Cause they wanted to get rid of the healthcare rebates or something like that. So essentially like the government was stepping in to pay off the increased prices of Obamacare if I'm not mistaken. - The Affordable Care Act, yeah. You think that's what it was? - And so your premium is going to be a lot of- - I mean, why are we calling it the Affordable Care Act? Like give some credit where credit is due. Let's call it what it is. It's Obamacare, right? - Yeah, you got to hit an act that it was called the Affordable Care Act. - It's just like, it's the thing. It's just like- - Let 'em have his legacy. - No, I'm gonna tell you why branding matters, right? You go in a, remember during COVID? People forget who was the person that you know pressed the gas on making getting the COVID vaccine out. - Yeah, Trump. - And remember when Democrats say, don't take it as being a rush. - Yeah. - When they got an office, they were like, no, don't take it as fine. Y'all don't remember that whole thing? So it's all about branding, you know what I mean? So if people will easily be like, no, get rid of Obamacare, that shit is trash. Remember Jimmy Kimmel did that whole sketch? Well, he did a sketch where he went out in the street and was like, how do you feel about Obamacare? And people were like, I don't like it. How do you feel about the Affordable Care Act? Oh, I love it. - Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act? - The Affordable Care Act. - And why do you support that over Obamacare? - Do not like Obamacare. I don't like anything that has to be forced for everybody to buy. This is not good. Do you think Obamacare is socialist? - Yes, I do. - Do you think the Affordable Care Act is socialist? - No. Do you think that Obamacare will eventually lead to gun prohibition? - Yes. - Do you know that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are the same thing? - No, they're not. - Thanks, you made me look stupid. - Oh, I got it. I got it. It is more, there's more bipartisan support when you remove Obamacare's name. - Exactly. - Now, and I lost my dream. - Sorry, sorry. - So, we're talking. - So, we're talking, you were explaining to me what exactly-- - Oh, yes, yeah. - Now, I have my idea, but that's why I'm not a fucking politician. I don't think the government is ever worth shutting down. If I'm Democrats, I don't take that risk of not voting, 'cause I want to keep the government open. I know this is going to sound crazy. I would rather the Republicans hike the healthcare prices up. So now as a Democrat, I can say, Republicans did that. I guess a clear, this is the reason you don't healthcare prices are hiked up because of Republicans. Now, because it's been three weeks, the waters are so fucking muddy. Like, so Republicans did a good job of blaming the non-Democrats. You go to all of the government websites and pop some of the Democrats shut down. Christie Norm did the shit in the airport, you know, saying it's the Democrats fault, it's the Democrats shut down. They did a good job of making people believe it. The Democrats. - Well, it is. - And it is. - It's both, but it is to a certain extent because Democrats are also taking credit saying, yes, we're doing this because we're taking a stand for your healthcare prices. Healthcare prices weren't an immediate, immediate food is food, not getting your check is immediate. So now nobody gives a fuck, who's fault it is? Oh my God. - I need a food. - God, I need a government so I can get my check. - I need healthcare as an immediate problem is your sick. - 100%, but like more people are hungry than sick. - But this shutdown is temporary, and a lot of people can maybe stomach the temporary. - Can they? You say, you rich motherfucker. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - You rich. I'm talking about the motherfucking people's premiums. - Exactly. - 30,000 are like- - You know how many people are gonna lie? - I think it's a- - The country is living check to check is, it can't afford to miss a check. - What's worse, to starve or to die? Like- - You might die because you miss a check. What if I'm paying my healthcare benefits, right? - Yeah. - But now you have no money to pay my healthcare benefits. - But now you have health there anyway. - But that's the thing, like you hold out for Republicans to have to come to the table and you know, we have to negotiate. 30 days isn't a long time at the day. - Listen, listen, we act like people can hold out. The country couldn't hold out during COVID. - So question. - When the country was shut down and everybody had to stay home, the country couldn't hold out for 30 days without a bill. - Question, question. How was the regular person? - Let me just ask a question. So let's say for example, Democrats didn't vote to shut it down, right? They voted to pay the people. Sorry. After the government reopened, people are getting their benefits, they're getting whatever they need. What if they started using whatever leverage they have going into the midterms or on whatever else other bills propose to add those subsidies back to the affordable care act. So those people were taking care of. - They have leverage at that point. - No, but they, it's like they will have leverage in the future. There will be other things that people want to get passed. - Everybody's healthcare premiums got hiked up by Republicans in 2026 is right around the corner. - Exactly. - Like this is why you're a fucking healthcare price. They're gonna be furious. - If you want them to come down, put us back in the motherfucking office the way we need to be. - Yes, I, that's a good strategy, but also in doing that, people will die. Because people won't be able to afford that healthcare. - You're gonna die with this too, Adam. - It's starving and not having healthcare. - So let's just, in the point, they're not getting money. - No, no, let's, I don't need to have money to pay my fucking health. - Well, we'll stack up backup. Nobody will die, right? Because it's illegal to refuse care to somebody in the United States from America. Like a hospital has to take you in. So it's not about death, but like healthcare is incredibly important. And there are things that will happen to you without having care constantly that could lead to your death. - Yeah, but early prevention is very important. - What 100% of you hold going to the doctor, you might miss something that could have been caught. - I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is if you asked people, and we know this for a fact because there's evidence to prove it, would they rather have food or healthcare? They would choose food first. - Yes, man. - Why do we have to make that choice of this? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm with you, Chris. But don't derail Chris. - Yes, I'm with you, Chris. - Don't derail. - My point is, if he-- - But a choice was me. - Democrats made a choice. - Democrats are making the choice that your healthcare is more important than your food. - That's right. - I think most human beings would say food is more important than healthcare because-- - Because don't just say food. - You'll build. - Yeah, your bills. - You have the way to provide for yourself is more important than your healthcare. But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't fight diligently to find some remedy for these soaring prices. And also, it would be advantageous for Republicans to find a remedy for these soaring prices because they're gonna look horrible come the midterms if all these voters that are Republican that are also on the Affordable Care Act see these premium skyrocket 30%, 50% whatever. And they're gonna start going, hold on, hold on. You're not gonna do anything about this. And these Democrats say they are. I'm gonna vote that way. - Simple. - And again, I don't know enough. I'm a casual out here. - Me too. - But to me, that seems like better strategy. - Don't take food off people's clothes. - Don't take food off people's table 'cause right now there's no political win for nobody. People are sitting around like, I don't give a fuck. Who's responsible for this government shutdown? Just reopen the motherfucking government so I can get my motherfucking check. You going to Taiwan for the holidays? - Probably. - No, you probably not 'cause the TSA agents ain't gonna be motherfucking working at the airport. - Well, I'm worried about my daughter's supposed to fly out of LAX this weekend. - Exactly. - And they grounded LAX the other morning. - Exactly. So we're talking about immediate things. People can't see past their bills, bro. - And if I don't have no money to pay my motherfucking bills, which means healthcare bill, rent, mortgage, cyber truck fucking monthly bills, all of that shit. No, they not, I'm telling you people do not care about anything except give me money. - They will not. - They will blame it on, sorry to interrupt, but like they will blame it on the people that are keeping the government shut down, which in this circumstance, even if it is for benevolent causes. - It's democratic. - Are the democratic. - Eventually, they will blame them. - Because they're there to negotiate. Republicans aren't even coming into work so they don't have to negotiate. So Democrats are actually there for-- - I'm not saying the Republicans are the good guys here. - That's true. And also too, I couldn't be wrong about this. You could look at this, I'm Chris. Being at the Republicans control all the branches of government, there's some type of emergency funding they could in act if they wanted to. Am I making this up? 'Cause I saw Marjorie Taylor Greene, the voice of reason. - Yeah, okay, complaining about this. - Marjorie Taylor Greene. - I don't know, I don't know. - I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. - Oh, TG. - Okay, I write what's the reason, said something like that. I just think it's all fucked up, man. Then when you got a watch fucking Donald Trump give $40 billion, the fucking Argentina, bro. - Can you explain what that's about? - It's really important, actually. No, I mean, we need to address this. Very important. - Tell me what that's about. - They have a really beautiful movement going on down there. - It's called Mago. - They're embracing libertarianism, they're changing everything. It's gonna be a model for the rest of the-- - They don't know your playing. - No, I'm not playing. This is important that we give them $20 billion. It's really critical. - 40. - 40 billion? Oh, even better. It's very important at this moment that $40 billion goes to Argentina to help promote their new economic policies. It's critical. More important than healthcare, more important than Whick, Snap, all that shit put together. - More important than the farm is here in America. - Oh yeah, definitely. Fuck them, and soybeans, nobody likes soybeans. - Seriously though, what happened to Mago bro? - Well, I want people to keep that same energy when America's given tens of billion dollars to fight foreign wars in other countries. - Taiwan is okay. - No, no, no. - Everybody else is, I'm just saying. - I just say, I hear a lot of people upset about America giving $40 billion bailout to Argentina and going, what about Americans at home? Well, a lot of people were very frustrated. America given tons of money, billions of dollars to people overseas to fight wars that we know nothing about when there are people struggling at home. So I just want, I don't want to do what aboutism, but I want people to keep that same energy. - No, I don't think we're doing what aboutism. - Okay. - 'Cause I think we have been consistent in saying that's not what we want. - Take care of home, man. - We've always, that's why I've always said that America's first messaging works, but when you're the architect of the Mago-America first messaging, that looks crazy, given $40 billion. - When they did doge, they very slowly and systematically went through all, no, I'm serious. They went through all the expenses of this country and it was important to fire tens of thousands of federal employees, that was very critical, but that allowed us to give $40 billion to our decision. - Now, it did just win reelection, but why didn't we get that money? - Yes, well, I don't know if he won, I think he won like a vote of confidence, let's call him. I don't know if it was an actual vote. - I think that he won it, 'cause he didn't do it. - But you know this money went to his election campaign. - I don't know. - No, this is true. - I'm not denying you. - This money went to, look it up. It went to his election campaign. - That's a guy in Argentina. - My feeling is like, I really don't care about what our countries are doing. - No, no, no, no, no. - That's why I tax paid $1 million. - No, no, no, meaning what I don't care about what they're using our money for, I don't want them getting the money if Americans need it. - Word. - It was made it. - I don't need that shit, cool. (laughing) - No, no, if it is beneficial for America and Americans, then I'm okay with that. But it has to benefit us in some way. - He's an ideal, I can't pronounce it. - Ideal log. - He's a, he represents what Trump likes. - Yes. - That's the benefit. - There's no actual, I cannot benefit. - So there's essentially a, he is, we have an ally in Argentina. Is that the idea? - Beautiful head of hair also. - Yes. - Oh, that's a real, God damn, I don't have the real picture. I thought no one didn't picture that he'd be scrolling on a website. It just pops up, that's really him. - Yeah. - He lay. - And a large portion of the money is contingent on him with it. Yeah, so it's like, if he doesn't-- - You went to his campaign? - Yeah. - $40 billion. - Yeah. - $40 billion of US taxpayer dollars going to fucking Argentina. - This is the problem with all of these policies. It's just like, tell us how this is beneficial to America. If you tell me that giving Argentina $40 billion gets America $80 billion, I would go, that's a great investment because now Americans are gonna get more food on their plate or they're gonna have more opportunities. Again, if it's not the case, which it looks like it's not, then I'm critical of it. But if we're investing in any country around the world and it benefits America, explain that to us. - Look that one right there. - Senator Sanders rips Trump for finding $40 billion to bail out Argentina while cutting off food aid in America. - I don't like it. - Think about that. I just made a donation this week to four different food banks, right? I'm already, like I said, I'm an ambassador to the food bank in Harlem, but I did a donation to a food bank in Columbia, another two of them in Columbia actually, and another one in Charleston, I'm gonna do one in Jersey as well. Why am I doing that? - Because you care. - $40 billion? Like there's no way in the world, I can be the president of the United States of America. No 42 million people are about to lose their motherfucking food aid benefits. And I give $40 billion to another country, and then when they catch me on my fucking plane and ask me about it in regards to them and the farmers, I started talking about how this other country is dying, how the farmers in this other country is dying. What about the fucking Americans? - What do you have to say to U.S. farmers, you feel that the deal is benefiting Argentina more than it is them as they are. - Argentina is fighting for its life, young lady. You don't know anything about it. They're fighting for their life. Nothing is benefiting Argentina. You understand what that means? They have no money, they have no anything. They're fighting so hard to survive. If I can help them survive in a free world, I happen to like the president of Argentina. I think he's trying to do the best he can, but don't make it sound like they're doing great. They are dying. - Well, there's American farmers that are also struggling, and they're like, "What about American beef?" 'Cause I think he said, "We're going to buy their beef or they're going to give us their beef." And it's like, "Well, we got beef in America." And we know they have phenomenal beef in Argentina. I just want to let you know, sensational. But to me, it doesn't matter. It's like, what do Americans need? And their needs need to be met first. And that's going to be frustrating for people on the right and the left, by the way. Both sides agree on this issue, bro. That's where it comes together. - It's about all the time, sure. - It's two things. This is why Mondani is one. It's two things in this country people care about. Safety, more money in the motherfucking pocket. It's really just that goddamn simple. So when you start talking about we can't eat, we can't pay our health care, we can't pay our motherfucking bills. How long has this shut down been? Three weeks? - Yeah. - Yeah. And it started like around the first. You think the landlord gives a fuck that the government is shut down? You think that your car load gives a fuck that the fucking government is shut down? You think the electric company gives a fuck? No, they want their fucking money. And majority of Americans are living, checked, checked. What are we talking about? - No, it's, you right, man. - What are we talking about? - I mean, yeah. I wish there was some to silly about it, but it's not. - No, the Americans got to eat first. That's it, simple. That should be the American policy, foreign and within the country. America eats first. - Eat the rich is in America, bro. Right now. - What does that mean? - Eat the rich. You're gonna have a lot of people who are gonna look at folks who are making a whole lot of money. - Oh yeah. - And they're gonna be like, oh, that's where all the motherfucking money is going. - Yeah. - And you're gonna see sadly, more violence against people in those positions of power. - Yeah. - Unfortunate, unfortunately. - But not only, it's not even unfortunate. Unfortunately, it's like, there's also gonna be a lot of violence around not rich people because that's just where violence is most easiest to commit. So those are the people who ended up suffering double. - Oh yeah, 'cause if I don't have anything and you got a little something. - I need that. - I need that little something, bro. I hate to say it any other way, but that's just the way the motherfucking world is. - All right, so let's open up the government. Democrats figure out how we can get those subsidies back for the people that need over the next six months, or the next year or two, or whatever it is. Like, why don't Democrats fold into the bottom week? - What do you mean? - You say that, but they just passed the big, beautiful bill, which is where all these cuts are in. So how do you just undo something that's passed on? - We do that all the time. We pass new bills. We pass other bills. - Order to do that. You need help from that. - Well, I think what you need to do is be politically savvy here and then showcase to Republicans why it's politically advantageous for them to help out with these subsidies and show them that if they pass a bill, it's gonna push all these people off their healthcare. It's gonna be devastating to them in the midterms. So instead of trying to win the midterms, try to win the American people. Who gives a fuck? I know politicians wouldn't answer this, but who gives a fuck who wins the midterms? The winners should be American people in need healthcare and also American people in need of paycheck. But if what you're doing is leveraging the suffering of Americans so that she win an election, I don't know if you're helping the American people or you're just helping your parties stay in power or gain more power. And to me, I think to the average American, they would probably look at that as discussing. Just as they would look at the big, beautiful bill, knocking these people off their healthcare as discussing. Both of them are not caring about the American people in that moment. - That's right. My homeboy who's a political strategist, he texted us this morning, well that was last night, he sent me the political article about how Democrats face moment of truth as shut down coalition phrase. And he put them going forward in about a week or so. He said, once them cards don't run, talking about the VVT cards and everything else, and then flights start fucking up. Ooh, it's a rap. Ain't no Obamacare subsidies in sight. - And here's the thing. - So you know how you're going to get nothing out of this? Stay with you on about. Trump, but his support from his base far supersedes any democratic leadership or support right now. Democrats don't understand. I'm going to be honest with you. The regards of understanding are not like you would acknowledge that there isn't like a figure in the democratic party that everybody would just go, yeah, we got that guy. That guy's got our back. No, no. No, no matter what. No. So when you don't even have somebody that's at the home that people trust, no, and Republicans know this. Why isn't healthcare of that issue though? That's what's always confused me about America. You can't find anybody in America who likes their healthcare. It's not like even rich people have great healthcare. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's healthcare sucks. And the further down you go, the worse and worse it goes, and most countries of a similar status to ours have great healthcare. When I explain to people what our system is from other countries, they think I'm making it up. They can't believe that a country is this wealthy. Chris, you know, you're right, but you know why we can't have the healthcare conversation right now. Why? Because the government shut down and these campaign bills. Yeah. Okay. But this is the conversation that's been going on my entire life. Yeah. My question is. Same thing with guns. Why can't, why isn't that the one issue that everyone's like we have, we give a stake in this thing. We all have the same things. Get money out of politics. It's just that. I know what their given reasons are. It's a fear of socialism. No, it's not. How many people have healthcare in America? I don't even know what the number is. I don't say it like that. Chris. Chris. No, that's 1000%. Well, that's what people have. Yeah. But the justification they might say is like socialism, whatever this shit is. But like the reality of the matter is that there is a lot of money in lobbying against these things. Right. And the lobby started in the 1950s to push back against communism and socialism. That's where the whole. It was a justification in that one. Yeah. The whole healthcare lobby. They used that red scare as a way to justify the policies that they profit from. For sure. 100%. But like, I think it's, there's actually an interesting thing happening in America right now. And to be the most aware of lobby groups and how they affect governmental decisions that are not advantageous to the people. That's beautiful. Right. That's beautiful. You've seen it with APEC, right? You're seeing it. I hope we start to see it with the pharmaceutical lobby. I hope we start to see it with like the healthcare lobby in general. And the more we understand that these groups are lobbying against the best interests of the majority of Americans, I think the less power that an influence they'll have in government days, we start to go, Oh, like when you call the gene, Jeffries, whatever, like APEC, Shakur, whatever. I think we start looking at these other candidates that are taking millions of dollars from the healthcare lobby. We start to go, Oh, you're just the United healthcare guy. You don't actually care about the American people. And that's a very good thing that's happening. It's not something that happens overnight, but I think the end result of that is you can't keep poking the American people in the eye and expecting us to think that we're having trouble seeing. There's something poking us. And that's why. You know who's some of the biggest lobbying groups are? What's that? The United States Chamber of Commerce, right? So they do the largest business trade association. The National Association of Realtors, who has a choice. Pharmaceutical, we knew that pharmaceutical research and manufacturers of America used to be tobacco. I don't know if it is anymore. American Medical Association and American Hospital Association, APEC is number five. Yeah. Like, here's the thing with the lobbyist groups. Where's the NRA on that? It's not even the top five. But you know, so interesting about lobbyists, I was thinking about this the other day. And I said this to, I think, Governor Josh Perreau when he was on, maybe with Josh. I don't remember. I don't know if I have a problem with lobbyist groups, meaning like, you know, I hear some people say, I'm never going for a person who takes a dollar from APEC. You know, by the way, it's more than just APEC, not the only pro-Israel lobbyists. Yeah, for sure. I think that, I don't know if I, I don't think I would go that far that I would say I wouldn't vote for somebody. It wouldn't take money from one of these organizations, because in that case, you're not going vote for anyone. Right. Yeah. But can, I don't think I have a problem with how much money you take if you're not be holding to the lobbyist groups. Why else? If you're still able to put people over the lobby, then you can give you money to- People don't give you money if you're not in the park. There's it. There's it. You know, right? Yes. I forget what the number was, $130 million donation to the Pentagon on this- Oh, my God. What's up with that, bro? Somebody gives Trump $130 million, just to hold you over. There's a fucking mass. I mean, who is this person? And how do we even know that the military is going to get a dime of it? How do we know that this person isn't- have access to this fence contractors and isn't going to get paid? I mean, it's like open bribery. Whenever someone gives you money, whether it's a lobbyist, or even worse, it's official- Yeah, they want something from- There's an expectation. What's the saying? There's no free lunches, right? Yeah. No free lunch. Okay. So let's go back to the horror analogy. Right? Yeah. If you give a girl some money, or you buy her some nice gifts, you know, all you know pussy. Right. But you might be upset if you don't get some- Okay. You just move on to the next- And then- And then- And then- You might not give any more to that girl. And that's what they're worried about. You might give to the girl that's going to be competing with that girl. And if that girl that's competing with her ends up winning, you're like fuck. I should have just taken that money. But let me tell you why, I disagree with- No, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but I'm going to tell you why- Yeah. The girl in the position of power will always have suitors. So as long as you stay in that position, probably- So if I'm the guy that takes money from these lobbyists, but I'm not beholden to them, in fact, I'm telling people, yeah, this motherfucker gave me such a such something. I don't give a fuck. It's about the people. Yeah. And I got the people on my side- So I would take the money then. Because I got a fucking win the campaign. Because- Because what happens is sometimes these lobbyist groups will put money against you and not even mention anything about what they care about. So they'll literally just do a hate campaign on you saying all the fucked up shit about you so that people don't trust you and then you lose your election. And it got nothing to do with what the lobbyist group cares about. They just know that the next person is going to be more sympathetic. I got the people, man. People trust me. The people believe me. Well, that's not- I'm going to be podcast talking to people. I got my own podcast talking to them. Now that's, now you're talking about Bernie Sanders, but it's like you can't lobby against him who- Exactly. I got the people. Exactly. So you can't bully him, right? Like, I'm not saying he's not transactional, but you can't buy him. Like Elon learned that. Well, no. That's a good point. You can spend on him. He just might not get anything. That's what I said, right? I said he is transactional. Right. But you can't buy him. Meaning, if he doesn't want to do something, it doesn't matter how much- Right. I gave you 130 for the Pentagon. Fuck you. I don't care. But again, if he wants to do something, he thinks that that works. He would love to help you out if you got his back. But if he decides he doesn't want it, like for example, he never gives up his power. Exactly. He never gives up his power. Exactly. Exactly. Because he understands the power is the thing that these people are buying into, and he has to constantly remind you. Of course. Yes. So, for example, like, you know, they- I mean, JD Vance just said, like, yeah, Israel's not taking the West Bank. We're not going to let it happen, and they could do whatever vote they want about season of land, but we're not going to do that. It's not going to happen under this administration. That's a Trump policy. That's not the Israeli policy or a BB's policy or the people in government because they literally voted to go annex it or whatever the term exactly is, right? But that's the American people or Trump literally going, yeah, we don't support that, and that's not going to be the best thing for peace. Now, the Adelson's will give him $100 million in the fucking campaign. They might have wanted a different answer out of them in the same way that Elon might have wanted a different answer out of them, but at the end of the day, he's not going to give up his power. Never gives up his power. And that's a really great point to Charlemagne made. Because the second you give up your power, you actually offer nothing to those groups. That's what I'm saying. It's almost like they don't want you to do everything that they say. You know what I mean? It's a very interesting dynamic, and that's why I go back to my original point. No, they do, obviously. But once you do, then you're of no use to them because they can do whatever they want. And he understands that in order for them to continue buying in, he has to give them enough, but also he got to let them know that they're not in charge. There's a way to distill this down pretty further, which is he just lies all the time. He tells people whatever they want to hear, it takes the money, and then he gets to move it. You got to win the election, Chris. They're on the whole lot. Are you describing politicians in general? Oh, sure. Well, right. There was for a historical context around this lobbying thing, which I think is interesting. There was, what was that called? It was bipartisan. McCain fungled, I think, 2000ish. There was a lot of momentum about this. I mean, that's the one thing. What is that? McCain for a lot. It was, it was a bill to start to try to slowly wean lobby out of politics and it had momentum and it felt like there was a moment. This is what? 20, you know, four or five years ago at this point, it never went anywhere. But, you know, there's been momentum around this issue before. It can't happen with traditional media because these lobbyists groups also spend a lot of money on traditional media. For example, if like NBC is selling pharmaceutical ads, like if Kimmel Show, for example, is really just a show to sell pharmaceutical ads, he's not going to take shots at the pharmaceutical industry because NBC is eventually going to go, hey, Jimmy, do us a favor. Like, you can talk about Trump. You can talk about these things, but like, this is where the brand gets buttered. Don't talk about it. So in the same way that they can lobby politicians, they can lobby the knowledge about lobbying to the people. What the internet has allowed to happen for better or for worse because there's a lot of conspiracy bullshit out there. But what's allowed people to kind of a little bit start to understand how lobby groups could take away the best interests of the American people and the wishes of American people. And then American people start going, man, we all want fucking healthcare. We all want there to be some rules on guns. Like why is this not happening? Oh, there's these groups that are making tons of money to make sure it doesn't happen. Oh, maybe those groups are bad and maybe the-- politicians that take money from those groups are not looking out for our best interests. Let's go with these other ones that seem to be looking out for our best interests. And those politicians seem to be right now the ones that are not bought or beholden seem to be the ones that are having success. - That's why I don't understand these politicians. - Right, right. - Because you take the money from the lobbyists, even if you do, don't give up your power. My power is still with the people. So yeah, I'm gonna take your money so I can compete against these other motherfuckers, but I'm not gonna do your bidding. And guess what? When I don't wanna do your bidding, and I tell you that upfront and you tell me, I don't wanna give you no money. That's what I'm gonna go tell. - Tell every fucking biome of me on every podcast, telling everybody that NRA tried to give me such and such and I was gonna take the money 'cause I need to compete against these people. But when I told them, no, I'm not gonna do your bidding. They say, well, you're not getting no money. So hopefully the people could say, well, here's five hours for your campaign and you can make up that money through the people. But you know, I don't, so go back to my original question. Do you have to be beholden to these lobbyists? - Well, I think that you still huge risk though. - Not really. - No, you don't, like what I would say to them is I'd say to the NRA, I'd be like, listen, you can absolutely donate to my campaign. Like I would never be in politics. But you can donate to my campaign. I believe in the, you know, of people's right to bear arms. Like I believe in that. But I'll believe in comments in the government form. - Comments in the government form. And that's something I'm support. Now if they go, uh, well, then we can't really give you money. I say that's fine. But if you do give me money, hoping that you can kind of like weasel me into some shit, you're gonna find out that you're not able to. And then if you pull back the money, I'm gonna say, hey, that same lobbyist group, that same company that is giving money to my competitor in this race, they gave money to me and the reason they pulled that money is 'cause I wouldn't do the thing that I said I wouldn't do. - Right, the NRA doesn't even donate to Democrats. - Yeah, they know. - Look it up. - They know. - They haven't donated to Democrats in years. Like, look, look at them, Chris. - But you know what this is? - When the last time they enter, I mean, they haven't donated to Democrats in years. - I bet you, I bet you since 2020. - No, I think before that. - I bet you around that. - Maybe, I think Bernie was actually, I don't know if he took money from there, but he was pro-gone not because he was, it's just different to where. - So what I would say to this is like, I think back in like the year 2020, if I'm not mistaken, maybe even 2010, there were 40 Democrats in Congress that were against abortion, Democrats. So Biden, when he was first to Congress, maybe it was against abortion. Now, there's not a single Democrat that is against abortion. What has happened is that politics have become so polarizing that there's only one way that you can be in business, either on a Republican side or a Democratic side. And that is you have to pass the purity test of the party. And the party has certain tent poles that you need to walk through. And if you're not willing to walk through, you have no chance. And that's a problem because now you don't have the fluidity within the party that you used to have. You used to have Democrats that believed in all these issues for working class people, but they might be religious and they might not support abortion in the same way, right? And that is actually, I know abortion is very touchy subject, but that's actually important for having a larger tent for people to fit in. And that's the problem right now. You can't build a coalition because nobody passed the purity test. You do one thing that the party doesn't like and they throw you out with the trash. - You were right about talking. It says the NRA now overwhelmingly supports Republican candidates committees. The last meaningful, those still small contributions to Democrats came into 2020 cycle, $13,800. - 2020 is when it all stopped. Something happened in '22. - But I mean, even then it was super small, $30,800. - Of course, but like, I think something happened after that where just the polarization. - And it says, yeah, the NRA's political financial support, it was a, yeah, it was a shift near a total realignment of the NRA's political financial support to the one party Republicans over. - And that's, go go out. - If Zellon wins, that's going to be huge for the Democratic party because that whole passing the purity test is going to be out the window. - Well, it depends if there's another purity test for him and that might have different rules, but I agree with you. The rules for his purity test might be like, no money from billionaires, no money from PACs. - Oh no, I just mean from establishment Democrats. It's like, yo, shit, he has so much support. We have to make our umbrella a little bit bigger. - Oh, look at how long, look, look how long we're going to. During the night, it may be hard to remember, but there was a time when the NRA was a bipartisan organization. - Yeah. - During the 1992 election cycle, the NRA contributed 37% of his congressional campaigns on nations with the Democrats. Republicans got the lion share 63% into 1.8 million, the group gave that year, but it was not as if the NRA was a pseudo wing at a party by 2016 that had all changed. But, you know what I was thinking? So why aren't Democrats harder on the NRA? I don't think they go harder on the NRA. They know it's not like they need their fucking money. They're not getting none of their money. - So what's keeping them from actually going at the R&R? - Is this an R&R? - I think they go pretty hard at the NRA. - I mean, some do, but I think there's a lot of their constituents that don't live in the inner city that actually do like to have a gun to hunt. - Yeah. - Do you like to have a gun to protect their home? - Yeah. - You know, I know you're an independent, but you believe in-- - I believe in my right to be honest, but I also believe in comments that are going to reform. - Of course. - And I believe somebody's guns don't need to be on the motherfucking street. - Of course, I think most, I think 80% of Americans agree with that. But I think what we're witnessing right now is that like because of social media and because of the internet, back in the day, the only way to get ideas out there to the world, you had to put them on certain existing platforms, i.e., like a nightly news show or something like that. So your ideas couldn't be so radical, right? Because you knew that you were feeding them to massive groups of people that had different political values, right? So you had to kind of like shave off the edges a bit. You had to make them a little bit more palatable, almost four Republicans and Democrats. Like everybody was just a little bit closer. Now with social media and the internet, you could just speak directly to your interest group and nothing else. So politics and not only politics, every issue has become so polarizing and so extreme, because you don't even have to care about the people who may disagree or who may be on the fence. Matter of fact, trying to be nuanced right now gets no algorithmic support. - Trying to be all things that all people get you no way. - Well, not even all things. Like literally just trying to have a nuanced thoughtful take ends up pissing off both extremes because they're so radicalized in how they think about that. So the way that we consume information, which is algorithmic clips, there is no portal to reward thoughtful nuance takes. The algorithm doesn't reward it. Like nobody's like, hey, I'm swiping my phone late at night. You wanna see some crazy shit. You're not going, oh, what is an interesting nuance take about gun control or an interesting nuance take about healthcare and its costs. You're just going to the wildest ones and then people gravitate towards that in general when they're creating content and now we have these polarized world where there's 100 different silos of different opinions that are the strongest possible opinion that they could be on each topic and nobody's talking to each other and nobody really feels fully represented. You feel represented in one thing and then completely disagree about the next. - Yeah. - This is right. If this was a design from a foreign country to destabilize another one. - It is. - It is. - It would be perfect. - I agree with Chris. Chris was saying this for some years and I agree with him. - Whatever Russia or China, whoever the fuck did the way they made us start having discourse, it literally changed our pocket. - It changed our pocket of ability. - Bro, you don't need it. I mean, that's what the whole, in my opinion, that's what the whole Saudi Arabia comedy show think was. Nobody's talking about it. I told you two weeks from now, nobody will talk about it. There is a single peep on the internet about it, not a video, not a comment, nothing. To me, what I think it was is, I think there was foreign countries that didn't like that this could potentially happen or even maybe internal. I think they bot farmed the fuck out of it and I think American like TikTok political commentators started glomming onto it 'cause they're like, "Oh shit, this feels like a story "and then there's views." The comedians started talking about it. But the second the bot stopped reinforcing everything, the story died. The next week, the tennis guys are doing the tennis match in Saudi Arabia, nobody says a word. The day after that, Shack is there for, I think it was maybe the tennis match. Speed is there, Mr. Beast is doing a video there and not a single conversation, not a single video, nothing. - I think that the biggest issue with the air that we're in because of, you know, whatever side-off has happened on social media, it just makes all of us think in extreme. - Yes. - We don't play in the gray area at all. Like to me, that's what critical thinking is. Like I can hear something over here, hear something over there and then form my own opinion. Like I can't stand, I would never do X, Y, and Z for X, like that's not true. - Bro, and the A-pack thing is a good thing. Like I would never take a dollar from, I mean I'd never vote for somebody who took a dollar from A-pack, you might not say any pro-Israel lobbyists. So you're gonna be sitting on elections for the able future. So what does that mean? So does that mean in 2026 that this election is not important? - Yeah. - In 2028, is that election not important? - Yeah, there's a, they're talking about. - There's a virtue signalling to that too. - And you put yourself in a corner, what I'm saying, you put your own self in a corner. - Where you no longer can impact the course of the country. - Yeah. - 100%. But I also understand people like feel like I don't wanna support this thing where I'm seeing tax dollars go to something that's not. - I agree. - I would say I would never vote for a candidate that took a dollar from them because I guarantee you, when 2026 and 2028 comes around. - You're gonna vote. - When you're gonna look at the people you vote. - Yeah. - All of them is taking somebody from a pro-Israel lobbyist. - Or the other thing you could do is be like, why don't they just register as like a foreign lobby group? Like because there are plenty of them. Like the tar has one, it spends millions and millions of dollars. And like I imagine every single country has a different one. So that registering in a different way like might be effective. And again, I don't know exactly how that works. I think that at least feels more fair, right? Like, because if we're gonna allow Italy to do it, and we're gonna allow Qatar to do it, and all these other countries to do it, then like why wouldn't we allow them to do it? I agree. Let's pay some bills, man. All right, let's do some asking idiots, man. M.The_Siv says, "A celebrity everyone likes, you don't like." "A celebrity that everyone likes." You don't like? You don't like. That's easy. Oh, Drake. What's up? Drake for you, probably. But I mean, I don't dislike Drake. I just never like when Drake sings. I like when he wraps, but I get why he sings now. I don't know, man. It just depends, like, you know. If you glaze a little too hard, you're gonna make me stop liking this. I know. Not me, no, I know. I mean, like, if you like the underdog. I like the underdog. You don't like the crowd favorite. But I also like the person. You gotta tell me why. What you mean? This person is so fantastic. Like, sometimes people just be chatting about certain celebrities and, you know, don't really know why they like them. They like them. 'Cause everybody likes them. It's trendy to like them. Yeah. Oh, I tell us with-- Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow. I thought her show was phenomenal. We already talked about this. I know. But I don't dislike Taylor. There's no celebrity I really dislike. I'm trying to know. I don't really have that kind of energy for a celebrity. Yeah. There's no celebrity I dislike. I mean, not glazed like the rest. But I don't dislike too many celebrities. But I can-- You name a celebrity I can have an argument about you why I can have a contrarian argument with you. Who's someone that people don't like that you do? That people don't like that I do. A lot of people-- (laughs) A lot of folks. I don't think he is. I mean, who like you got to give me an example like a musician? We keeping it strictly music? We can. I don't know. Because I mean, everybody I like this-- People that I like do. That's the thing. The most popular people are very polarized. Our polarizers. Yeah. You know, it's a great question. It's just tough. And I guess it depends who it is. I'm a ride for like somebody arguing me about Cardi. I'm probably arguing with you about Cardi. Yeah, but Cardi's fire. But just because not only is Cardi a fire artist, you also know her. She's a good person. Yeah, like, it's, you know what I'm saying. Once you know somebody, you're defending who they are as a human versus like somebody's perception of them based on tweets. I hate what people would tell me I'm biased. It's like towards Cardi. I'm not biased towards Cardi. I love Cardi. There it is. Yeah. But it's also like you know her. You're not arguing with her sister about her. No, arguing with somebody who knows the internet as a version of her. Exactly. Not only has Cardi been super authentic since day one. Yeah. Since day one, we was just all on Instagram back in the day. So you're super authentic. She came to my daughter's six. I know. Birthday party. That's fire. You always said never forget it. My daughter and her kids will never forget that. Never forget. As they live, she will always be able to say Cardi B came to my sweet 16. Cardi starring them in no time soon. That's going to always be a thing. All right. So for all you people that say I'm biased towards Cardi, I'm not biased. I love her. OK, suck my dick. Talk, that's shit. From the back. From the back. I'm riding with big body every single time. They do that with me with fucking rock nation too. Oh, they say you're too biased for rock nation. Yeah, but it's not that I'm biased. Here's the thing. And to your point, and I've always said, you know, when you actually know people in the business-- It's different. --the exceptional change. Yeah. The reason I like rock nation, Desiree Perez, and Jay Z, and my man B.I, and Emory, and all of them, is because I've seen them. I watch how they treat people that can't do nothing for them. That is, say they will Cardi. Watch how certain individuals treat people that can't do anything for them. This is a true sign of someone's-- That's when you know if a motherfucker's a good person and that. Yeah. I've seen all of these individuals, I just name, show up for people, right? Show up for causes, show up for organizations, seeing people make phone calls, and just let them know what's going on. And they show up anonymously. Sometimes not anonymously. If people find out it don't matter, they're for the people. I like people who are for the people. I'm going to fuck-- what y'all think? Y'all don't see what I see. Haven't been around without been around. That's why I ride hard for certain individuals. Yeah, but you don't know anything, show up, man. I watch three TikToks that said different. Yeah. Watch three motherfucking TikToks. What the fuck would you know? The motherfucker telling you that people sacrifice goats and mix it with hamster shit, and then take a nice little pace, and then put that in a fucking beyond burger, then they go get a little piece of human hair, wrapping around their ear, and then they take a little airwax out of their ear, put that on the fucking human hair, and rub it between the toes, do two, three clicks, and then say, "Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, all of your opinions on the world for you? - By the way, that's a great point. This is not an easier way to go through life, but that's a great point. I mean, you know what you just brought up that's such a great point. The fact that there are people on YouTube that will tell those of us who are actually in the know that we don't know what the fuck we talking about. Meanwhile, you at home and your mother fucking basement it was constant, it was canceled. Okay, I ain't never met a mother fucker coming to all of these conclusions based off what? - They saw what? - They shut up. - Okay, I'm by the way, and I want y'all to know something, so I'm gonna tell them when y'all will take one more time. (laughing) - If y'all think I'm in the Illuminati, now you just wait. - Just wait. - Wait. I'm giving y'all a heads up, right? (laughing) I'm giving y'all a heads up, right? - Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo. - Okay, I'm telling you right now, I'm giving you a heads up. - We gettin' a rap, my name. - Think I'm in the Illuminati now, you just hold your horse. - How long do we gotta wait? How long do we gotta wait? - Yeah, I'm just gonna let the year play out. - Okay. - Just let the year play out, baby. - It's already October, almost November. I'm just gonna let the year play out. Once again, if you think I'm in the Illuminati now, you just wait. Y'all might as well start making your think pieces now. - Yeah. - Since you two videos, ready, then. - Okay. - Just go ahead and do it now. Just letting you know, what else we got? - The Winter American City has the best food and culture and this is from empty chair tech. - Without question, is New York? - Is New York is not even close? - No, that's not true. - There's not even close. - There's nothing even close to it. - Get out of New York City. - What's another city that has culture? - I can name another new that has better culture and better food than New York. - Can you say Jersey right now, man? - New Orleans. - Well the fucka, go to New Orleans. - I would, I would say is. (laughing) - No, 'cause I thought about that too. New Orleans has fantastic food and incredibly unique culture. It's like, you feel like you're almost not in America, even though you are. I will say 100% love New Orleans, but it's got just that. New York. - That's what they ask about. - Not food in culture. - But it has just that. New York has 1,000 different foods and cultures that you can indulge in. - Yeah, because you all are culturally appropriating city. - Not appropriating, they come here. - They come in. - They're appropriating New York. - They love the same difference. - But New Orleans, New Orleans fire, bro. - No, we love New Orleans. - No, I'm not talking about New Orleans. - I'm biased, 'cause I'm gonna say Charleston, South Carolina. - Man, come on, come on, come on. - But that's where I'm from and I understand the Gigi Gullah culture and I love the food. But if I'm being objective. - What's the culture? - You the rat soon on the road. - Gullah bro, Gigi Gullah boy. Boxing your fucking mouth, boy. - Boxing your mouth. - I hate eating boogie. - Listen. (laughing) - New Orleans culture is so fire. - It is. Cash money and no limit burst at it on Saturday. - It is. - And that was a phenomenal fucking break. - It is. - Not denying that. - That's something new that just happened? - Cash money, no limit, just had a burst. - That's how, that's how, that's how fucked up we are right now. That the only thing that we all come together for right now is politics. Everything else that used to just be a gravitational force to bring all the people into comments on it, that's done. - They did it on a bad night. They shouldn't have did it on a Saturday. - But, 'cause I was leaving the South Carolina, Alabama game, I was leaving wins by Estonia and we put it on in the car. - But five years ago, for three years ago, that could be on any night of the week. And we all would have tuned in. - But that was awesome. - We were also at home. - It has a point. And they used to do it during the week. Like lots of dips that was during the week. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - If you had a home on a random Wednesday and lots of dips that on, you turn and that's it. Gucci man, GD was a random fucking Wednesday. - But I miss, I miss monoculture. I miss when we all shared the same experience. Like it was the one, it was the one nice thing about COVID is that anything that happened, it happened to all of us at the same time. Last dance was all of us at the same time. Any like meme or song or anything that went viral and news story was awesome. All of us at the same time. - Well, China stop all this cyber. She's talking about the bio war. - Let us have a fucking monoculture again. - Get back in the fucking bio war. - Give us three months in the house. - Who's Cash Merney versus who? - No limit. - Oh, I didn't hear that far. - Cash Merney versus no limit. That shit was bio. - You know, Wayne didn't show up. - Do you know who those groups are? - Yeah, but Wayne didn't show up. - Wayne didn't show up and Mystical is in prison, you know, but it's fine. - Wait, why didn't Wayne show up? - I don't know. They say different things. They said, Turk said that Wayne said if everybody wasn't going to be there, he wasn't going to come. And I guess Burmese and Turk got some type of issue. So Turk wasn't there. So Wayne was actually in Vegas from what they were saying. I think they said he performed at Dre's. But it was still fine though. I mean, man, 'cause what you realized in moments like that is the impact no limit had on culture. - Of course. - Right? And that's why when they asked me about it at first, I was like, who's going to win? I'm like, oh, that's a tough one. I gave the cash money you have to. - No, you don't have to. - No, say that, you don't have to. - Cash money also has young money under it. - No, you don't have. - No. - You go, no, no, no, no, you do, that counts. - What do you mean? - No, it does not count. - No, it does it. Cash money is Juvie, BG, Turk, Little Wayne, Manifresh, Birdman. That's cash money. - Young money was the kind of money. - No, no, no. - Cash money so technically they are cash money artists. - No, no, no. - Yes it is. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and no, and absolutely, positively not, okay? No, but no limit of the dope. Mia X is phenomenal. Juvie now, God amongst men, like these people, like these are people who we watched from the 90s tell now and they somehow gotten better. Everything that they said hip-hop isn't supposed to do, these people have aged better, they're stage presence, the way they're able to command the crowd on stage, like Mia X killed it. The only thing I wish is that Wayne was there and I wish they would have played some mystical records 'cause Mysticals and J.L. for some very heinous crimes, but it's still a celebration of music. You don't gotta celebrate the man in order to celebrate the music. So you can play here, I go, you can play the man right here and I wish they would have led Mia X. Do you don't wanna go to war with soldiers? Don't let me truth it. I thought I told you. ♪ My mom, boss, my lady, ten a row, it's just a tank ♪ ♪ I represent, hit your puck, then I ain't to be fucked with nigga ♪ ♪ Lyrical, lyrical, ghetto, she devil ♪ ♪ Below the sea level, chill to endless vistas ♪ Wasn't outside. Wasn't outside. - All right. - Pause this talk and I'll say that if you had to raise a kid of the opposite race, black, white, what would you teach them first? - Black kid? - Well, I teach the black kid first. - What's laughing at over here? - What would you teach the black kid first? - Gotta teach him how to pronounce it, right? You know? I gotta call you probably over to like, yo, you don't make him sound crazy. - No, what was the first thing you teach him? I'm assuming this is like when they're old enough to like learn something, not just how to be a good person and all that kind of shit. The first thing I would say is like, look man, pops, loves hip-hop. You can listen to this music, but don't you ever under any circumstances, say this and work, okay? I don't care what songs burn into your brain from years and listen to your father's music. Don't you ever feel like you can say this word, okay? And then the next thing I would say is and if we get pulled over, all right? I'm talking to you, so use your motherfucking privilege to get us out of this situation, okay? I'd be using my little white son's fucking white girls, privilege like Starbucks, Wi-Fi, bro. Are you out your fucking mind? - Could Snoop Dogg have performed. - Snoop came out. - Oh, he did, he was in? - He was in? - Fred Boss Snoop, Snoop put out more albums on No Limit than he did, Defero. - Yeah, that's right. - Oh, yeah, Snoop came out and did down for my head. - Oh, wow. - So that Snoop could do that drinking technique. - Yes, yes, yes. - Snoop was No Limit, Alex, original No Limit. Like Snoop did more albums on Defero. No Limit than he did, Defero. He did two albums on Defero and like three on No Limit. No Limit saved him when Defero fucking collapsed. Big difference. Let's do one more, man. King Ivan, oh no. Oh, he did that when King Ivan says, what do you think we can do to help people that actually need government funding just to eat? Go to your local food bank, man. I told y'all, you know, I'm an ambassador for the food bank in New York City, but I am a ambassador for them for quite a few years. I just donated the one, two, three, I donated the three four food banks today. Today, on the day we're recording this, this is the Tuesday, I donated the four food banks. I donated to, of course, the food bank in New York City in Harlem. I donated to, I'll give y'all the names of them so y'all can look them up yourself. Hold on one second. - And if you can't donate money, you can donate your time. - Yes. - If you can't donate money, you can donate your time. I donated to the Broad River Business Alliance in Columbia, South Carolina. And I donated to Harvest Hope in Columbia, South Carolina. And hold on, I'm gonna give you the one in Charleston as well. And Charleston, I donated to the Community Resource Center. And in Harlem, I did the Food Bank in New York City. Another good one that you can do in Charleston, South Carolina is the Hope Center. I've been providing them breakfast for, I've provided them breakfast for a whole year, since last year. So yes, go look up your local food bank, your local food pantry and your city or your community. And just see what they need, whether it's money, whether it's resources, like grocery, whatever. Just go to your local food bank, food pantry, man. 'Cause that's why I think a lot of people going into a tournament. Come on, Nathan. Come on, Nathan. Nathan, think I'm a fucking rookie, yo. Really? (laughing) What is that? - I think I'm a rookie, yo. - What is that? - Come on. - Is Charlotte ever get that will fit, checked out? Come on, bro. Come on, bro. - He tried this, buddy. - One more, House Taylor. Is Chris gonna vote for Curtis since they-- - I don't know, Taylor. We gotta go, go. - Is Chris gonna vote for Curtis since they share the same view on Lopez? - He probably will. - He probably will. - Taylor's good. I talked to Taylor last week. Taylor will be back after Thanksgiving, man. - Wow. - That Taylor will be back after Thanksgiving. I talked to Taylor last night. - I gotta check in again. - Well, I talked to Taylor all the time, but I saw her a couple of weeks ago, but she'll be back after Thanksgiving. - We love you, Taylor. - Love you, Taylor. - Yay. - Love you, Pat. - You too, Taylor. - Shout out to Patrick. That's it. You know, yeah. What do you keep scrolling for? Is this something you wanna say as Alex? - No, I'm just, I didn't know if you wanna do more. - Oh, okay. No, I said that's the last one. - You wanna end it with this one? This is gonna do it this way. - All right, do that one and see if we can gum the other one. - What's the other one? - Gum down this ditch. - Oh my God. (laughing) - Fuck. - That's all. (laughing) - No! - Yeah, man! - Yeah! - Yeah, man! - I'll slow-play down all this shit for an hour. I let that shit simmer like a curry. (laughing) You had some nice little oxtail right there, my brother. - Wow. - As always, you can listen to the podcast. - Me, it fell off the bone and see your mouth. - Probably. - Listen. (laughing) (laughing) - We all y'all watched the podcast, man. - Oh my God, you're welcome, all right? - As always, if you've listened to the podcast, I think it was smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots, you don't know shit, you're right, too, with the brilliant in this podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace! (upbeat music)