Five Breakout Offenses No One's Talking About (and Who to Draft From Them)

Welcome to Bring Your Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyper today. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Crack World back in today. We are going to go through and find out who is this year's Colts AK, the shocking team that nobody really sees coming, but we're going to see them coming maybe. But before we do that, we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Verizon. Let me tell you all about Verizon's new simplicity plan. You get one plan, one price, just $30 a line per month, even for a single line. So while everyone is running for trade analyzers before offering a backup tight end, Verizon said one plan, one price. The simplest move is the best one, like the simplicity plan. Head to Verizon.com today, for new customers, $30 per line includes auto pay and switch discount. Additional taxes, fees, and terms apply, unlimited data is restricted to on-device smartphone usage to domestic data roaming at 2G's. All right, let's get to who's going to be this year's Colts. This year's Colts complimentary, not derogatory, hopefully this year. The year are Colts. This year's Colts, a.k.a, the team that no one really sees coming in a fantasy vein, a bunch of high scoring games, high scoring star players, and basically league winning type players on the team. Jonathan Taylor last year, at least until the wheels fell off, it was like that. Do you guys remember what he was scoring, like three touchdowns every game? He had three games, three different touchdowns. He had four, and three in one month. So three touchdowns is a hat trick. He had a hat trick inside of a hat trick of hat tricks in a month. Tyler Warren was going crazy, Alec Kierce was doing well, everybody, Daniel Jones was absolutely cooking. The entire offense came out of nowhere. And the goal of today is to find maybe are there one or two offenses this year that we think could do with the Colts did last year, and be filled with fantasy ups. And that is like one of the bigger, if you can identify those teams before the season, it is like one of the simplest ways to just just kind of be dominant is all the players around a great offense. And just to put a button on, I just don't get the Colts were because again, first half of the season, so funny, look at these stats because I can wait for it to be wrong. The Colts half of the season, so eight weeks, half of the season, Colts are the best record in the NFL, seven of one. They led the league in all the counting stats, so yards, points, touchdowns, but also all the advanced stats. So expected points added per play and expected points added total. And my favorite, which is just if you look at like total EPA, which is like expected points added in the 21st century. So since 2000, the best teams ever are the 2007 Patriots who went 16 to no, the best revolutionized offensive football. Yep. Literally unbeaten. And then the with Tom Brady and Randy Moss and Wes Walker, then you have, don't forget, don't they still worth don't forget. And then you have paid mannings best three seasons ever, which include not once but twice breaking the touchdown passes record, like two different paid manning touchdown passing records. The 2000 Rams greatest show and turf, the chiefs in 2018 when Patrick homes through 50 touchdown passes. So three people on this list through 50 touchdown passes, and then it was the 2025 Colts. And then it was a team quarterback by the guy, the New York Giants were like, we're good. Oh, you guy, don't even get me started. Oh, quarterback, you guys, hey, but at the point being that if you're a look, it's not that every year, there's going to be a team like the Colts that are on this list. Although, maybe, but it's more just which team do you think people are really wrong about that it's just going to be like way higher than everyone's that people don't see. And then if you can get two players on your team from that team, then you're probably going to be doing pretty, sitting pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty. That's a weird thing to say. I like that. I like that. Sitting pretty, pretty. Sure. That's a new phrase you just invented. Pretty, pretty. No, we get it. Yeah, we get it. Yeah. Anyway, okay. Has the pretty, pretty. That's it. The first team that you think could actually, we have to, I do, I wanted to just give the parameters of what I was thinking about. What does it mean to qualify? I think it is essential that there have to be real questions about the quarterback for its account. Yes. As a Colts team. Yeah, I like luck here. We tried to select teams that you truly wouldn't see coming. That's the point of this. The same way nobody talked about the Colts last year. These are teams with like, how top 10 pick in the draft this year? These are teams of the quarterback questions. Like, we're not just going to walk in and be like, I think the Bears are going to be really good. All of their players are inflated the way like Luther Bern is going in the third or fourth round. These are teams that aren't really discussed for whatever reason. And the team I want to start with is the New Orleans Saints, who I think have a shot to be this year's Colts. One, there's also some similarities. It's like former Eagles offensive coordinators turn head coaches on a team that's trying to find their footing after losing their, their, their longtime quarterback and replacing them with like a 27 year old quarterback that nobody thought would be good. That is kind of like Shane Steichen, Dangle Jones to Kellyn Moore and Tyler Schuck. But in general, I do think the Saints for a couple reasons are kind of flying under the radar. I think they're kind of outshined by a lot of shinier objects in the league. Like, Kellyn Moore is a really talented young still play call. He's 38 years old. This will be his ninth season coaching in the NFL. He's 38. Wow. This will be his eighth season as a play as an offensive coordinator at 38 years old. Not like Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen and Mike McDaniel and all these guys that they go for shadow him a little bit. Despite the fact that Kellyn Moore was the guy calling plays on the, that Eagles team that won the Super Bowl. Kellyn Moore was the play caller or the offensive coordinator on the Cowboys when they were leading the league in points. And now with Tyler Schuck, who I think is another guy who does not get enough love or is not being recognized really for reasons that I think are fair. Like, nobody really thought he'd be good coming out of college. He was a second round pick. He was old. He was the same draft class or the same high school class as Trevor Lawrence. He was just as old as the back of the Oregon. He got hurt like every year in his college career. He got hurt every year. He broke his collarbone. He hurt his shoulder. He broke his leg. Again, he was just in her words back up at Oregon. Tyler Schuck, he'll be 27 years old next month in September. He turns 27 and this is his second year in the NFL. But despite all that, he came in last year and the Saints started poorly. Schuck came in as a starter. He played 10 games as a starter. He lost four of his first five, but then they closed the season. It looked like the Saints might have the first pick in the draft and it was like, are they going to take for an end of the day? And then they won four of their last five and over those five final games with Schuck starting. The Saints were 14th in points per game. They were 7th in yards per game. They were 6th in passing yards. Tyler Schuck himself was the QB7 in fantasy. He was 11th in EPA per drawback, point was 11th in success, right? QB7 in points per game, yes. He scored 20 points per game. He was 10th in rushing yards per game. Tyler Schuck, a little bit more mobile. He was averaging around 30 rushing yards per game, which is more than Drake May had last year. And you look at the weapons, like bringing in Jordan Tyson, the ninth overall pick. You now have Chris Alave, who just signed a big deal, who's in his prime. You have Jordan Tyson, who's, by all accounts, had a great camp and looks electric. And the only issue with him and college was really injuries. But from a talent perspective, might be number one in the class. They brought in Travis ETN. They still have Alvin Camara. I think they have a solid offensive line. They have two top 15 picks at Tackle, Flauga and Kelvin Banks. They have a solid center. They brought in David Edwards, the guard from Buffalo, who gave him $60 million over four years. And this team, from a coaching perspective, you have Kellyn Moore-Con plays on offense. They run the fastest offense in the league. They led the league in plays per minute last year. They have the fastest pace. They're pass heavy. They're like an analytics nerd's dream. Super pass heavy. And also like the team might not be, I mean, their defensive coordinators is Brandon Staley, who did a really good job last year with a Saints roster defensively, that was like middleing. And so you just kind of look at this team in a division that feels very winnable in the NFC South. They have the 30 as you schedule in the league per sharp football. And also, if you want to even get more granular. They have a fantastic fantasy playoff schedule, weeks 13 to 17. The Saints play the Panthers, Bucks, Cardinals, and Falcons. So if you believe in like Tyler Schuck, I says, under the radar guy, and this team can pick up momentum, it's a great spot to be in the fantasy playoffs. So that's kind of my overall pitch for why I feel like the Saints are kind of hidden a little bit this year. That is an extremely well-reasoned argument. It's funny because the Saints, I think, of all the teams we're going to talk about today might have, might check the boxes. I put together some variables that I thought had to kind of hit here for a team to be that surprise breakout. Here's the variables they had four of them, new or improved quarterback play. And I think the Schuck thing is basically like, people didn't pay attention to the Saints last year if you weren't really paying attention that much. He was playing a lot better than anyone expected. He's not famous. I think like he was not famous in college. His name is hard to pronounce. I was going to say a year ago, people were still learning to say Schuck. No one knows who this guy is, and if he just had the same season, but was the tenth pick in the draft, we'd be thinking about him completely differently. Totally. New and improved quarterback play, respected play collar. I think Kellymor has established himself as a good play collar, a savvy sort of forward-thinking play collar, excellent or highly-improved offensive line. I think the Saints, according to Brandon Thorne, who is one of the best experts on offensive line play. He has them as the seventh ranked offensive line. I mean, this is a top 10 at the very bottom at the very worst offensive line. So I think that is huge. And then stud skill players. And I think they have all, they check all four of those boxes. I mean, they got a Lave. I think Tyson's going to be really good. They have obviously two good running backs in ECN and Camara. I think this is, this is a great call, Craig. I think this is a team. I think we think about that. I don't know. You think about what they were under Ratler and it was just kind of like an ugly offense. And now they have potential to be really, really good and think back two years when they started off really hot too. So yeah, this one fits a lot of the, it checks a lot of those boxes. I really like this. One thing that I like to focus on is like year two with a new play collar. And I often feel like sometimes everybody gets all excited about year one with the new hot play collar. And it doesn't go that well. Just takes time. Yes, it takes time. You know, you need a couple drafts. You need to like get your footing under you need to find your quarterback. And the Saints are kind of a prime candidate here where Kellyn Moore going to the Saints was probably like one of the least discussed coaching changes last year just because of where the Saints were. And the Saints were, were solid last year. And there's just so much more buzz elsewhere, kind of rightfully so. But I tried not to overlook too much when like year one went okay for a play collar that I really trust because it takes time. The parts of that that I think I would echo is just like things that are a really big deal is the Saints having the 30's the schedule. Yeah, per one sharp strength, the schedule which every year you look back on it. And that matters. The Patriots being the best example ever probably last year, which is entering the air. We're like Patriots schedules really easy. And it probably became I don't know if any team schedule has been a bigger deal or a storyline than the Patriots scheduled last year. Saints being top three is the schedules huge. The pace thing you brought up Craig is huge and that you can only get fantasy points if they run a play. And the Saints run plays the most like I think sharp football has the Saints is running the fastest offense basically. They snap every 27 seconds. They're leaving 12 or 13 seconds of the play clock. They play fast. And their defense is like could be fine. I think the Saints could win the NFC North North or sorry, the NFC South very easily. The North would be harder because they're not in it. But the that would be tough. That would be a big flex. You know what? We didn't only win our division. We won your division, bitches. That would be incredible. But the Saints I think they could win the division. But the defense is probably a little weaker. So the offense could be running a lot of plays. And then the Saints have built the team give Tyler Schuck every chance to succeed. Right? Like they got Jordan Tyson with the top 10 pick in the NFL draft to be opposite Chris O'Lavi really athletic Titans brought in David over to the guard line Travis H and it's the running back. So they're giving Schuck everything needs to succeed. My question is, who are the players you want at cost? So we have Chris O'Lavi as a the number 12 receiver. So you know, like a thirdish round pick or something. Like a we've Jordan Tyson as the number 33 receiver. We've Travis. Again, the artist formerly known as Travis ETN who now is Travis H and running back. Alvin Cameras was going to retire. But now I guess it's the third down back. Tyler Schuck himself. So Craig of all those guys, who is the person that you're targeting with all of this said or you think all these guys will be good values or who in particular? I think Tyson and Schuck to me are the part of the two values I like the most. I mean, Tyler Schuck is probably going undrafted. You can easily just, you can just draft them to your backup quarterback and see if he plays well in super flex. I think he can be your number two guy. Again, QB seven over his final five games of the season. Like I understand the schedule wasn't that hard for Schuck over that stretch. But again, it's hard. Even if you just like pull back and say all the games he started. I looked at this yesterday. He was the QB 12. He was the QB one in the games that he started. Not just like narrowing it down to the wins. So I think, yeah, I think he is definitely a sleeper at quarterback. And then Tyson is going Jordan Tyson the rookie is going around guys like Kamenung guy DK Metcalf, Tony Pollard, RJ Harvey, Marvin Harris and Chris God on Rico Doudal, Alec Pierce. I would take a shot on Tyson over any of those guys. I think from a talent perspective, he looks like he could be very special. And if this offense is, you know, exceeds expectations. It's, it's, you can absolutely support two wide receivers in a while. They end and Tyson. And one other thing I'll say is like, maybe ETN in a while when you look at them in drafts don't seem like incredible bargains. One thing I kind of feel confident in is that it's only August 12th. We're still getting, we're still early on in this process. The NFL season starts like a week later than usual. So everything's kind of pushed. I don't think Saints players like ETN or a law that are going to rise up. I don't think there's a chance they become like the sexy draft pick. If anything, I think it's more likely that when you're doing your draft with your high school buddies or whatever, ETN will be an afterthought. Even a law. I think the concussion stuff, I think that the amount of sexy names around him shock absolutely. I think a lot of these guys will be seen as kind of like, you take them at cost or lower, which, and I think they could be good values in that sense. Yeah. If you can handle the fragility of those guys, because I feel like there's still the impression that Alave is a very risky pick just because of his history with concussions. And so, and then obviously Tyson, his big knock was he was hurt. Again, almost every year. This is like a same thing, almost every year. The Saints, the knock is where they were always hurt. Right. Maybe that's just where they get into value or they're perceived value, but a lot of like 16 games last year. Yeah. That was huge. And they gave him a massive contract. So, okay. So D.K., who's another team that you think could be this year's cults? And you're basically guaranteeing it. Yeah. This is 100% guarantee. I staked my reputation on it. No, I mean, look, this is, this one's really way more variable, I think, or volatile than what Craig's was. But the Las Vegas Raiders, I do think they fit a lot of the variables that I'm looking at in terms of a breakout offense. Now, I think the big one for me, the biggest one by far is Kubiak. I really think I have a lot of trust in Clint Kubiak. I think he should be. Which one? There's seven. The one that was coaching the Seahawks last year to a Super Bowl W. Oh, yeah. That guy. Yeah. Clint's a court dinner. Right. Right. Right. Obviously, you know, Mike McDonald, I'll have to do that too. Kubiak, I just think there's a chance in two years we're talking about him in the same sort of conversation as some of the best play collars in the NFL. Well, D.K., you want to go, you want to tie this back to the Saints, Clint Kubiak, on the Saints. Remember those three weeks, two years ago, when the Saints were playing up 40 points of game. Does anybody got hurt? Yeah. So I think there was a chance. That was a glimpse of what the Saints could have been last year. Obviously, they lost their quarterback and that everything kind of fell apart. But let's go through the checklist here, respected Savvy play collar. I think Kubiak is one of the better play collars. I think he had, it's a long proven, very reliable offensive scheme. The Kubiak Shanahan scheme has been around forever. It works all the time. We've seen it elevate teams that you don't really expect to be good. I would think about like the match shop Texans back in the day. And I do think the other thing that's nice. And this is really the big sticking point is what do we do with the offensive line? I think this could be at best, probably an average offensive line. Last year, they were one of the worst offensive lines. And going into the year, they're probably going to be ranked around some of the worst offensive lines. But they're getting Colton Miller back who missed almost all of last season at left tackle. That's big. Just like a foundational piece on the offensive line. They traded or they signed a Tyler winner bottom in the offseason. Basically, he was there. We're not leaving free agency without this guy thing. They overpaid, according to the center, you know, landscape by maybe 10 million or whatever it was. And then, you know, so, but I do think the Kubiak scheme can elevate an offensive line based on like the way that they run their scheme. It can kind of hide some of the issues that they have, the play action, the misdirection, things like that can help put the quarterback in terms of pressure rate and all that stuff. So the offensive line, that's a variable I can't necessarily put a check there, but I do think there is a world in which the offensive line improves pretty significantly. And then the quarterback growing from Geno Smith to cousins in Mendoza, I think theoretically could be a big improvement. You know, it depends on what kind of version we get of cousins early in the year. And then, of course, if Mendoza plays, that's another one. But, you know, Geno turned the ball over more than anyone last year, other than Sam Donald. And so just cutting down on turnovers could be a massive boon for this offense. I mean, Brock Barters might be the best tie-in in football, probably the best tie-end in football. Might be even a top 10 pass catcher period in football. And then Ash and Gentie, we've talked about this a bunch. If you give him an inch, he'll take a mile. Last year, physically, on the runs where he was able to take one step without being hit, he looked electric. And I do think, again, this scheme probably be a huge boon for him. So the Raiders, this is not every time Austin Gailer Raiders fin points out that the Raiders started meeting without their O-Line coach because they needed to fix it. That's about the O-Line coach last year. Last year, they Pete Carroll's son. They didn't want Pete Carroll's son coaching the line in the meetings. Talking to Austin about last year, just man, the Raiders were such a dysfunctional organization. Basically, Pete Carroll and Tom Brady, I think, had different visions. He didn't get to choose his entire staff. There was just no continuity, or they just didn't agree to see how to run anything. It's too old. It's too old. Pete Carroll, the football may have passed him by at this point. Who knows? If you go past that, obviously, the big question here is, what's going on at the receiver core? I don't know. Honestly, I think Trey Tucker could be a fine skill player or a role player. Jack Bash hasn't done anything since they drafted him last year in a second round. Dante Thornton, probably not a big factor. They did sign Gailer and for agency at least he has experience. I mean, that's the Vikings third receiver last year at Gailer and Nailer is now going to be, ostensibly, their number one, because Trey Tucker is a speed, deep threat that's really like a speed crosser threat. I don't know. He could be good on play action and things like that, I think, where they get him down the field and throw it over the head. Yeah, to me, it's like, but if you have bours and genty, that's more than enough in terms of the skill player position because they are too very, very talented. very explosive players can get you big plays and can be types of guys that you can really trust in those key situations. And so look, it's a stretch. You have to squint definitely to see this. But I think I would never have guessed the cult would have done what they did last year. I'll put it that way. So I think when you see, when you have a coaching change like this, a quarterback change, there's a chance they make a massive jump from what they did last year. - Yeah, these things might feel far fetched. But again, D.P., like you just said, it can't be overstated. Like the Saints last year going in with Daniel Jones, a rookie tight end, you have Michael Pittman and Alec Pierce and Sherr Jonathan Taylor. But like the bet, one of the top 10 offenses of the 21st century, nobody saw coming. So if these teams feel a little bit like, yeah, right. The Saints or the Raiders are gonna be, nobody expected the cults last year, which is the point of this exercise. I will say about the receiving group. I can't remember at time when we've had two teams with this, the Dolphins and the Raiders have about as bad of a receiving group. I was like, I can ever remember in the NFL. - Yeah. - The Raiders one I think speaks more to the Clint Cubiac. I think they see Brock Bowers as the number one receiver in the team. - Sure. - And again, Jason Smith and Jigboon, you centers around them. - Yeah. - But even Cooper Cup and Rashid Shaheed are better than any ride receiver the Raiders have right now. - And I think, but I think the C.OX sign Cooper Cup, mostly for his willingness as a blocker at his intelligence of like just understanding the, X's and Oslo's going on in the field and his ability to adapt and understand how to, that Cooper Cup could motion and play in anywhere in the offense to know how to block and all those things and also just know where to sit in zone. And, but I think the C.OX last year, they treated D.K. Metcalf. We weren't looking at the C.OX like it was a deep thing and that they had needed Tori Horton to catch a bunch of touchdowns. - Oh, I thought for sure they were going to regress in offense. - Yeah. And so that's why I look at the Raiders and I get excited. The Dolphins, that's, I just think they're the worst receiving group since the Jets. - They're tanking. - They're tanking. I take that seriously when I say a team's tanking. I don't think the NFL teams tank nearly as much as people say. The Dolphins have tanked in the past. The Dolphins are tanking and they have tanked in the past. It's like a history of tanking. - They have, they, the Dolphins are tanking. Steven Ross is the only owner that seems to love tanking and when the Browns, they definitely tanked too for like eight years ago. Didn't work. But I think my question with the Raiders is, I, first of all, I want to talk with the quarterback. They drafted Fernando Mendoza, obviously, you know, number one pick, Heisman National Champion, undefeated. I forget there's like four guys ever that have done that. And I actually believe that he will not play until he's better than Kurt Cousins for this year, whether it means Kurt is terrible. Mendoza's amazing, Kurt gets hurt, whatever. But I do think they're going to play Kurt until they think Mendoza gives them a better shot. - I mean, the Brady last full December. - The Brady quote that you mentioned on the podcast where you, well, what did he say? It was like a crime or something that they're making people play early. I think it's a tragedy, he said it's a football tragedy. - It's a American tragedy. - It's a tragedy. - Brady views that rookie contracts making the economics push quarterbacks onto the field early, forcing coaches to dumb down offensive football rather than forcing quarterbacks to rise to the level of NFL football and dumbing it down is a football tragedy as well as feeling that they don't have to earn their stripes. Like I had to earn it Michigan and I had to earn the job in New England. And so it's a mix of back in my day, I walked up hill to the facility both ways in the snow. All that's to say is when you guys look at the Raiders team, are you envisioning Kurt Cousins doing well with this team or you envisioning Mendoza playing both this team either or neither? - I think a lot of this, the fear with the Raiders to me is like, I have more trust in Clint Coupiac as I do any play call or like I fully believe. And that is what you're betting on if you want to bet on this. My issue with the Raiders is, how much better is Kurt Cousins than Geno Smith right now one? And two, how much Kurt Cousins are we, if we get 14, 12, 10 weeks of Kurt Cousins, is that enough to sustain whatever we think this offense could be and also you look in fantasy purposes. The Raiders are a very unique team, not expected to be very good and yet they have two players going in like the top, 15 in drafts, right? You have Gentie who's the first round and Brock Bowers is the second rounder. After that, who else are you drafting? If you think this team is gonna be the next Colts, you're basically saying Trey Tucker is gonna be relevant. Jack Pax, who doesn't look good in camp is gonna be relevant or something like that. - Well, that's the thing when we say next year's Colts, and it's a little tongue-in-cheek 'cause it's the same thing as saying who's this year's Patriots. You mean the 80 to one team to make the Super Bowl that made the Super Bowl, that doesn't happen every year. But I think it's a pile, who's gonna be way better than you think 'cause there's always a team? The Raiders are a scary team for fantasy because they're the only team, like they're basically bottom five in projected points and wins. Like the Raiders odds to make the playoffs are really low. And the teams that are around, the Browns and the Jets, and you know what I mean? Like they are not considered like to have these top-end fantasy players. So I do think the idea, if the Raiders are just kind of what we think, which is last place in the AFC West, but better than last year, the offense has to be funneled through Bowers and Gentie. Like everything, that's like baked in. It's assuming that no one will be relevant other than Bowers and Gentie. So I think the question is, do you think the offense will actually just be, doesn't have to be elite, like the Colts. Average being funneled through Bowers and Gentie would probably make both like incredible buys. That's the question though, is are the Raiders gonna be average or above average? 'Cause that would be pretty great. - Yeah, I think Craig said it, but this to me is a bet on Kuyak and a bet on the talent of Gentie and Bowers, more than some of the other variables that I mentioned. - And the offensive line thing, DK, 'cause how did you feel about the sales offense of line a year ago? They were one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. I mean, they were going into the lead, going into the season. I think most people considered them bottom five and they ended up being probably average. And they did, and look, they got a new offensive lineman and Gray's Able who helps stabilize things on the interior, the Raiders got a new offensive lineman in title of their bond. Well, also, by the way, it has the advantage of already being one of the best centers in the NFL. - They paid a lot of money for them. But again, I think it's saying that gets lost just 'cause it's a bad contract. I must say it's a bad contract, but just 'cause teams spend too much money for bad for medium-term planning. Most teams that spend money and free agency do get better in year one. It just doesn't work out long-term. But like, again, Tyler Linderbaum set centers a great center. They do have Colton Miller left tackle as a first-round pick. Right guards, Jackson Powers Johnson was a first-round pick. Spencer Burford, I mean, he came from San Francisco, which is family, like schematically, same family-wise, and as had success there. And then DJ Glazer right tackle is a little serviceable. It's like, I think that that, what the Raiders have now at line, comparable, if not maybe slightly better, than what the SEAUX were working with a year ago DK? And I think that's the point is, the whole point of the Kubiak offense is it makes Lineman's job easier. Joe Thomas, who's like one of the best left tackles of our lifetime, always talks about how it makes it your computer. Everything's a zero-one, let you play faster, which is why Lineman generally get better under the system. So we'll see. I, I, it feels like a stretch, and it probably is a stretch, but-- - Yeah, this is like-- - But also-- - I don't know if they suck and Kirk Cousins's gets hurt as old and it does as a rookie, that's the problem. - Yeah. - But, but I don't know, in support of this argument, DK, if the Raiders are just like immediately good or above average are really competent, would you be all that surprised? I kind of wouldn't, because I trust Clint Kubiak and they have talk powers in Gen T, and I'm like, I don't know, if they're a top 10 offense, half of the season, I don't think I'd be shocked because of Clint Kubiak, and I think that's the point here. The tough thing is like, if you wanna take action Gen T, and you buy into this, you're pretty much gonna have to get him at the end of the first round. But the bet here would be, is that you think that he can be the RB1 in his offense, right? - Yeah, and the last thing I'd say that just to throw the wrinkle in it, I think the big difference that is, maybe so obvious we're not saying it between Seattle and the Raiders, is Seattle had the best defense in the NFL last year, and the Raiders defense is horrific. And I still kind of think the Raiders are gonna trade, Max Crosby, making a bad team worse. - Well, he's fighting their quarterback. - Gotta get rid of this guy. - Gotta get rid of that guy. - Yeah, other than fighting the guy you can't hit. - I think the Raiders defense, they added a bunch of pieces on defense. I don't think it's gonna work. And I think that the flip side is, it's easy for the COX to be having such an explosive pass offense. When all the game scripts are, yeah, you have to really think about defending the run, and we play play action. The Raiders are down 14 points. They can't just be like doing play action all the time. It's set up. Like, if you have to get in the shotgun, solely all that Kubi X stuff, it's not so easy. And so that is the thing to keep in mind, is that, if the Raiders, in theory, you're like, well, it's a bad defense. Look at what points will shoot out. It's not built necessarily for shootouts, not exactly. - DK, before we move on, last question. So like, going back to the cults last year, the first half of the season, like Michael Pittman was the wide receiver 10. Nobody seemed that was coming. - Yeah. - Not saying a Raiders receiver is going to do that. But if you had to pick one Raiders wide receiver, Trey Tucker, Jalen Naylor, Jack Bash, whatever, Deontay Thornton, who will just massively overperformed this year if the Raiders are good, who would you pick? - I would probably pick Trey Tucker. - Yeah. I think so too. - I've always kind of liked him. I remember watching him at the Senior Bowl and being very impressed with him. He's just kind of, he's been slot into a role in his career so far, but I do think he has a little bit more to him. So, he's not going to be a traditional number one guy, but it wouldn't be surprised if he gets more volume then. - 5-8-180, really fast. - Yeah, I mean, he reminds me a little bit of like a little bit of a smaller version of Jalen Reed, where you're a little limited, but there's some, you know, there's some real electric movement skills and get deep. He's made big plays in the past. - I feel like he's been in this role. - Yeah, that's what he was a couple of years ago. - I just keep-- - You remember Rashit Shaheed at the beginning of St.C. Center a couple of years ago? Like, he was all over the place. - Briefly, Ian Hart was always post this. The Shaheed had briefly had one of the best, like touchdowns per touch. Yeah, he was-- going off marks ever. Yeah. Um, an explosive place. Yeah. So okay. But I wouldn't put a pass nailer. Just they spent a lot of money on him. And so, you know, that's certainly a possibility. Nailer kind of an all-time name for like a guy in high school. You know what I mean? Just like that. Hardly know her. Yeah. Jalen Nailer sounds like a name of a character at American Pie. Jalen Nailer. That's a good name. The Ranger Fantasy football shows brought to you by Fandall before the football season begins. Every team is undefeated. Every fan believes this could be the year. The year their team wins the division, makes the playoffs, lifts the trophy and the Fandall you can bet on any of it from who will win it all and division winners to season win totals and playoff futures. Fandall has all the ways to bet on the season before it even begins. I kind of love parlaying a bunch of teams. I think we'll make the playoffs. I feel like the Ravens will make the playoffs and they're underrated because Lamar was her and they have an easy schedule the first two months. 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Get your football future bets in today on Fandall visit fandall.com slash ringer fantasy to get started 21 plus select states or 18 plus DC or Wyoming gambling problem called 1 800 gambler call 1 888 789 7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. All right, I think you're up. Are people are going to quibble with this pick here? I was going to ask you guys, do the Vikings count for this? No, I don't. So I, that was my first thought. And when we talked about doing this episode, I went past them. And then I'm worth mentioning. It's worth getting into briefly. I thought so. But over the weekend, I spent time with like different groups of people that like football, but aren't like doing it every day like we are. And I kind of just forgot how much people think Kyler Murray sucks. Yeah. And I think that I feel like we've been in a football bubble of people where again, I actually think there's a serious chance that Kyler Murray playing on a $1 million contract, $1 million to the Vikings is like the best contracted football. Like when he's 55 million, I don't love Kyler Murray and the body language and the studying language and the contract bothers me for a minimum. Like Kyler Murray's like the 300 highest paid NFL player. That's pretty good. And having said that, I think he sucks because I think if the Viking started eight, no, I think people would be shocked. And I do think that's the point is I think I forgot that people still hate Kyler Murray. And so I wanted to ask you guys because this is the team that's probably most situated for the cults come back. I think that Justin Jefferson is exactly like Jonathan Taylor, where everyone thinks he's good. There's no injury related for his drop off. People think he's an absolute just dominant player to his best. The question is quarterback, the same way that Jonathan Taylor, they're like if Jonathan Taylor had a great quarterback last year, no one would be a set of Daniel Jones. It's weird. It was Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones. It's weird. This year it's JJ McCarthy. It's Kyler Murray. It's weird. Kyler Murray just got named the starting quarterback for the Vikings. And I have a lot of questions about whether this is going to work schematically, just like people didn't know about Daniel Jones last year. And again, Bill Borengolson's great study has been that Kyler Murray has almost five percent of his like five percent of his stats is a snaps have been under center. The Vikings do like 50 percent of their snaps under center. So they're gonna have to meet somewhere in the middle, but we're talking about Kyler Murray doing somewhere between like almost 10 times as many snaps under center, or if you meet him in the middle, Kyler Murray is going to be doing five times as many snaps under center. That's an adjustment for him. But you know what the call, honestly, the Daniel Jones thing kind of works for Kyler. It's like what Brian Dable did when Daniel Jones got to the playoff slasher. You do a lot of play action rollouts and you're moving the pocket and you're getting Kyler on the move. I think the Vikings are the best candidate to actually do what we're doing because the other thing that Coltsad was enough talent that when they got rolling, you're like, well, I guess this does make sense because you're like, well, Tyler Warren's good. And Jonathan Taylor's good. And Josh Downs is sneak in to read it. And you're like, well, the Vikings have, you know, like an underrate Justin Jefferson's like, maybe the best receiver in the league. Jordan Addison's a first round pick. And again, weird player. But like he's the number two receiver. Hawkinson. I don't know. I could, I could believe it if the Vikings start hot. Also Kyler Murray's done this before. He started seven and four years ago. No one gave a shit. But I don't know. This one. I do think in high fence his defense, this does match pretty similar. There's a lot of similarities and parallels to the Colts from last year and the Vikings from this year. I mean, the Colts going from Anthony Richardson and I think Joe Flacco was the other quarterback for a while there on that team. And then they went and got Daniel Jones. And was he just a free agent? He just left him free agency right? Well, his team paid money to get rid of him. It's stylistically, it's honestly very similar. Like he went to Minnesota first. Right. And then he signed with the Colts in free agency, kind of like a forgotten man. Like everyone had kind of given up on him. I think there's something. It's a 2019 quarterback taken in the top six of 2019 cut by the team and paid to go away. But the team that took him going to compete with a different first round pick that he beats out. And I'm just, narratively, it's pretty similar. And for what it's worth, the Colts from 2024 weren't like fucking terrible. They were eight and nine. And they, what they got second in the division, the Vikings last year were nine and eight, third in the division. So I agree a little bit better floor, but the mechanics of the team, I agree makes sense. I think the only thing, I think narratively just like the Darnell thing, the fact that that happened and they went 14 and three with Sam Darnell two years ago. And then last year was a disaster. It's why I don't think people would be shocked. I think the shock was Sam Darnell winning 14 games with Kevin O'Connell of Vikings. So it happening again with the first overall pit, Kyler Murray. I feel like won't be shocking, but it doesn't discredit your point of like, yeah, this offense could still be fantastic. And we're probably not thinking about the non Justin Jefferson people as much as we maybe should. So I think it's like Jordan Addison. I mean, they have Johan Jennings now is a number three wide receiver. They got him from San Francisco. Jordan Mason here. He's a hoe. We want that known. Johan Jennings is a hoe. He's not that known. Well, that was a trip Williams just who said that? No, it was at night. It was a Javon Hardgrave, I think. I believe said Johan Jennings is a hoe. I want that. He's a hoe. So who do we like? Like out of the running backs, wide receivers, tight ends that aren't just in Jefferson height, but who do you think is the best value of this offense? Pops. So the boring answer is I think that Jordan Mason, I think, is the cheapest starting running back in fantasy. I think Jordan Mason. He's not sexy because it isn't get a ton of catches. But I think that's why he goes late and he's just he's probably getting twice so many carries inside the five as he did last year, which is an exciting, but a carry inside the five running back. This makes common sense. But we talk about like red zone touches. Red zone touches don't matter. A carry from the two yard line is like seven times more valuable than a carry from the 19. So it's about carries inside the body. Unless you're Derek Henry. No, it's unless you're Derek Henry. All that's the same. And you look like the Saddam statue. Every time Derek Henry stack on the back. This is greatest analogy of all time. I just can't get over that. It's just apples. I'm going to go watch that video. It's like a family guy cartoon where he just starts upright and then the next frame he's horizontal. You're the crash. Oh, my God. But yeah, I think I just think Jordan Mason's a really good running back and he's just a perfect guy to take. He's probably like Javonte Williams last year where you're like, Oh, he's the guy and Aaron Jones is going to get Aaron Jordan Mason's going to be like the guy for the Vikings. Not a great receiver, but he might have been playing passing down two probably probably losing his savior Scott. But yeah, Jordan Mason feels like a he's he's a huge value and probably looks really great on a team like we like you're talking about with the Raiders. That's like ahead in games. Game script is going fine. The quarterback is good. They're distributing the football. Last year was just a disaster for everything that you could imagine with Jordan Mason in terms of just like they're not getting into the red zone. The quarterback is a disaster. They needed Aaron Jones to create explosive plays rather than, you know, the foundational run game and and grind wins out late in the game, things like that. So yeah, I think Jordan Mason is he's a game script reliant quarterback. But if things go well for the Vikings this year, he could be massive value. If it's not Mason, though, again, if you're first off, you're playing on sleeper. I cannot Kyler Murray himself is the answer. He ran for 500 yards two years ago, which would have been basically almost time at Josh Allen for the most of them quarterbacks two years ago. He's still athletic enough Kyler Murray's going after kickers on the sleeper platform. So I would take Kyler Murray and also the other person to keep wondering about is Justin Jefferson, where it's like if Kyler works and Kyler usually is pretty good the first two and a month of the season, there's a world where we look back and we just can't believe that Justin Jefferson was available. And we were taking Ashden Gentie and over and the Raiders end up as like bottom five team again. And we were taking Ashden Gentie over Justin Jefferson when Jefferson had like one bad season and with with a terrible quarterback. And so I don't as much as I'm wondering if Kyler Murray might have issues with the O'Connell offense. Sometimes I think we get that confused about, yeah, in the wild card round, that'll probably be a huge issue. Over the course of the season, I have no issues that Kyler Murray will get the ball to Justin Jefferson. That will not be a problem. Will they be able to efficiently win a Super Bowl? I have, I really don't think so, but like Justin Jefferson's going to get the football. And he might not be a first drum pick this year. I think that's the one that stands out like a sore thumb. It is interesting that you know, a team that won 14 games at Sam Darnold two years ago, with basically the same infrastructure. And now a quarterback who we assume can be good at the former first overall pick. They only have one player going inside the top 100 in fantasy and it's Justin Jefferson. Literally everybody else is going outside the top 100. if this offense is going to be good, other people will be in the top 100. I'm kind of looking at Jordan Addison, who's sitting at 109 and ADP right now. He's like the 44th wide receiver going off the board. Jordan Addison, first two years in the league had 900 yards in average and average, almost 10 touchdowns over the course of his first two seasons. He had a down year last year for multiple reasons and then now he's kind of back. - I mean, Justin Jefferson had a down year last year. - Sure. And I was just kind of staring at Jordan Addison who's next to like, I don't know. - Jane Reed or Wondale Roberts. - Michael Pittman, Jacobi Myers. And I'm like, if the Vikings are good, really good. Jordan Addison will be way better than the 109th player off the board. - Yeah, that's, I was going to say Addison reminds me a little bit of like early career Calvin Ridley obviously Julio, are you just going to say that? - Yeah, I couldn't agree more. - I think there's just a little bit of the way that defenses play Justin Jefferson, the way that defenses previously had played Julio Jones. You're getting opportunities to get deep and get over the top and they're not, you're not getting help over the top in a lot of cases. - And the red zone, the same thing, Julio Jones, one of my favorite receivers I've ever seen it should be Hall Famer, but he was weirdly, never scored as, kind of like Calvin Johnson actually. Never scored as many touchdowns as you thought 'cause they were so good that defenses took the, anyone but him inside the Ted Yard line. And that's where Calvin Ridley is really similar to Jordan Addison in me. He's like, both scored a lot of touchdowns, super linear career, even though they were like, number two receivers that are thin and don't have the build of someone as a red zone option, but they were like, one on one every time in the end zone. And Addison going around Quentin Sutton, where I'm half looking at Quentin Sutton, like is he gonna lose his job to Pat Bryant by Thanksgiving? Whereas like, yeah, so Jordan, I think the, again, I think the point to me is if you wanted to have all the Vikings on your team, you know how easy it is? - That's like this is just a good point. - Well, he just said to me. - Yeah. - I'm just saying, you know, if you did Jordan, let's see you get Jefferson from the first big joke. - This is a joke. - Check it out. - Jordan Addison 109th, this is a joke. - I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - You can't do this. - I'm tired of watching you fuzz around with this. - God, die hard, great movie. - Die hard. - I know. - What is that? - Welcome to the party, Pat. - Nothing, I just made that up. I find it funny. I always get just like blatantly getting something totally wrong when it feels like I know what's going on. - After you've voiled it several times. - Yeah, I'm like doing it close to you guys. I'm like, man, leave the weapon to you. - Awesome. - That's a good bit. - I'm gonna start doing that now. - And then the other last thing I'll say is Tisha Hawkinson, you're under-afted, which is fine. He's like, you know, the player. - We have forgotten about that guy. - I don't know. - I feel like we're back at Hawkinson. - There was a time when we were like, this is the next guy. - He's like the next grunk. - Yeah. - I'll say but Tisha Hawkinson. He's under-afted for a reason. Kyler hasn't gotten the ball to tight ends, et cetera, et cetera. Hawkinson took less money after an injury. It's always a bad sign, but he wants for agency. I'll say it's Tisha Hawkinson in a contract year. It's his last chance at a contract and I'll say this. If the whole point of having a tight end at the end is not for some safe, floor volume guy, but you're like, all right, what are the odds they get a tight end that'll pop? Everyone's like trying to find a year or two tight end that'll pop and I love like Terrence Ferguson, the Rams. But Tisha Hawkinson's like the number two tight end of a few years ago. Where's ACL had a bad recovery and then JG McCarthy happened? I'm like, I don't know. Hawkinson would be the single least surprising tight end to finish top 10 on the season out of all the guys outside the top 16 to me. And it's funny to me that he's just completely un-rostered. - I totally agree. It's almost kind of good timing that he got to waste the year that he's recovering from the ACL with JG McCarthy. Like now he can, now he's back. That he has a good quarterback. - So anyway, I just, I know the Vikings are maybe obvious, but I just, but they're not priced like anyone believes in them is my point. - Sure. - Yeah. Okay. Dika, who's your next team here that you think could be a surprising cults like? - Yeah. So that's the team. - This one, again, might be a stretch. I'm putting a lot of stock in Kevin's to Fanski, but I'm gonna go with the Falcons here who look, they have some of the variable. Here's the deal, they have some of the variables that we're looking for here. I think the big one to me again is to Fanski who, let it cannot be overstated. Is it, understated or overstated? I can't believe it. - It depends what you're saying. - It cannot be overstated. That's, the Fanski led the Browns to 11 win game, 11 win seasons twice. - Coach of the year, twice on Browns. - On the Browns. - Who's a man? - I think the Fanski has a beard, don't you worry. - He was a man. - He was a man. - God, Anchorman, great mostly. - Jigge Chad. Anyway, Craig, I heard that. (laughing) He's sort of a bitch. Anyway, so look, there are two new quarterbacks here. So, we have a potential for a new or improved quarterback situation over an last year. - One quarterback. - Two, well, sorry, there's one new quarterback panic. - But one is named two so it's consistent. - There we go. Now we're talking. Tua Tagavoloa, who I still can't say is last name. - Tungaviloa. - Tungaviloa. Obviously. - Or as you'd like to call him, turn the ball over. (laughing) - Tua, turn the ball over. (laughing) - Anyway, do you guys remember that two years ago led the NFL in passing yards? - Yeah. - Did that really happen? - It's still like the 18th best quarterback. - Is that right, Justin Herbert's gonna win the MVP this year? - I do, I do think Herbert's gonna win the MVP. I swear to God. - Anyway, 2020-23, sorry, I guess it was three years ago. Tyreecat, almost 1,800 yards, 13 touchdowns. Most are in H&N, we're both like top five in fantasy in a per game basis. - Yep. - And so again, this is a two led offense that did that. It happened in the real world. - I'm not saying it's going to happen. - I'm not going to say this is going to happen, but it did happen in the past. But I'm more like a Stofanski believer I think here. - I think the real comparison for the dolphins and Mike but Dana, what you're talking about, is Tua was the point guard. He was the Steve Nash of the seven seconds or less sons. That really is what the dolphins are doing. It was the two seconds or less dolphins, which has a funnier connotation. But I think there's a world in which two of the seconds are less. - There you go. - Two, fuck, that was right there. - Yeah, the two was second to less. - I think there's a world in which two of works in the Stofanski style offense. Again, this is a Shanahan Kubiak offense. That's the history of it or whatever, the lineage. Raises the floor. The offense helps with the offensive line. This is a offensive line that could, I think, be pretty good. Again, Brandon Thorn has them ranked 20th, but he's in the, they're in this big tier three kind of in the middle of the pack. They have a good left tackle in Jake Matthews, Matthew Burderon just got a new contract. He's been good, so they're less sized, pretty solid. They also have Chris Lynch from that right guard. Do you want Taylor at the right tackle? Don't necessarily love that, but-- - The belt line. - Off-sides guy. - Yeah. And then just when you look at the skill players, it's a fucking bananza. I mean, Bijan Robinson and Drake London. And then depending on how you feel about Kyle Pitz, there might be a three dragons meme here with London and Bijan and Pitz, but I think Pitz what he looked like last year, the way that he was running and moving around, I think was really encouraging. So again, I don't know if they're gonna be a good team, but I think they have a potential to be pretty good on offense based on some of these variables. - I think this one, I don't know. I would be shocked if the Falcons started 9-0. I wouldn't be shocked if the Falcons ended up being a great fantasy team. Because first of all, Atlanta had the best pass rush season they've had in decades last year, and they're just not gonna do it again. 'Cause James Pierce, he's gonna get suspended. I have no idea what his future is. He had a horrific like offseason incident over the, I think in the spring, that's he's probably gonna get suspended, and he should. And then Jail and Walker, they're other first-run picked towards ACL. - Or ACL. - So like, I just don't believe in this defense at all. But the Falcons on offense, I mean, look, it's always weird to have relied too much on whether they're first-run pick, but there are like nine first-run picks in this offense. That's not an exaggeration. Now, one of those is Johan Dotson, but like, that's their fourth passing option if you drink London. - Well, I always kinda liked, I always liked Johan Dotson. I didn't, I kinda know why I didn't work out. - You're all down to stock. - With Johan Dotson, your number two, that's tough, but drink London Pitz, oh, that's an alarm. Is that just to be like, oh, stop talking about Johan Dotson? - Yes, sir. - That's it. - That's my phone. - That's my phone. - But I just, if Tua does play, he's probably going to complete a lot of passes, and they might not be fun to watch, but there's gonna be a lot of shipping, PPR points being handed out, participation trophy, PPR points handed out to Bijan and Pitz. And the question I keep having is Drake London, is he like one of the best values? Or is he just, is Drake London gonna have crazy splits between Michael Pennex playing in Tua? But if Pennex isn't practicing 'til early September, I think Tua is gonna be the quarterback here. - Do you guys think that Tua and Michael Pennex are better than any quarterback Kevin Stefansky had on the Browns? - Let's go through and talk about the New Maciel. - He had a rookie Baker Mayfield, it was kind of a mess. - Baker, no, rookie Baker was great. Then he had a shoulder in Baker's house for two years. - Sure, sure, okay. - So Del Beckham's dad was tweeting at him. - You have like Jacoby Prasette, Dishon, James, Shredor. - Flacco. - James Winston, Sanders. - PJ Wilder. - The Browns started with, what's his name? Well, this is the Oregon quarterback they started with last year. - Dylan Gabriel. - Dylan Gabriel. - Yeah. - I'm just like, I wonder if Kevin Stefansky is like, wow, this is like, I think we're all looking at like, geez, the Falcon's quarterback situation. I wonder if Stefansky's like, I got my pick in the litter here, man. - Tua. - I think this is great. - I think it's part. - Wow, because I think the issues Stefansky have with the Shon Watson, and there are many issues to have to Shon Watson, but football teams don't care. The issues Stefansky had with them was he doesn't want to do the same offense. They don't want to like, do the whole understand. - Right, he had to drop back roll. They had a huge power struggle over with the kind of offense they would run. Tua is fine to do whatever Stefansky wants to do. like I think two is gonna make it work. He's like, you know, like, how high do I have to jump? He's gonna make it happen. I think pretty high 'cause he's short. - A small percentage. A small percentage of two is, you know what, knowing it is to flip the plays for lefty. I know what's a meme. - You did like Gabriel last year, man. - He's used to it. - Yeah, but it's like, you have to teach, like if everything for penics is left and then the backup comes in and he's like a righty, he gotta flip everything. - Well, this is what I say, right? You wanna get a backup that has similar style, like it's like Tyler Huntley with Lamar. Like you wanna get somebody that has like, you know, the lefty thing probably matters in that regard. - I know that sounds dumb, what I just said, but just so you know, Steve Young went to BYU and his freshman year, his coach didn't wanna do with the lefty and made him a safety. And then the coach got fired and the new coach came in and then in practice, Steve Young, he was like, and the coach was like, why the fuck does that backup safety have a cannon? (laughs) Who is that guy? - He was like, I'm a corner of the Hall of Famer. - Yeah, but that's how Steve Young got to be corner but BYU is the new coach. He was like, you can throw, that's weird for your defense, but like coaches don't wanna do with lefties. And I do think that's one of the reasons too is there. It's not just a meme. - I will say, Drake London, I think is another guy, kind of like Olawe, I think Drake London has more buzz than Olawe, but I think has a chance to be kind of forgotten in the second round. - People are worried. - People worry about the offense. - Yeah, Drake London last year, the first 11 weeks of the season, wide receiver three overall. - I don't know what to do with it. I think Drake London was, for the first half of the season, on the short list of like most improved players, if not literally at least in perception. Like Drake London looked, I don't, I hate to just throw Mike Evans around, but he looked like an absolute dominant, dominant outside receiver, which is hard to find. - And then he heard his PCL and he was kind of banged up for the remainder of the year, but. - But how many quarter, that's my thing, is how many times did we see Tyree Kale wide open down field and Tyree Kale waiting to do like a punt. And I'm concerned about whether two is gonna be throwing into like contested situations with Drake London the same way. And I wonder if two is gonna go to Bijan and Pits. And then like Pannix will be going to London and Pits. - You feel better about, you feel better about Kurt Cousins and Mendoza than Pannix into it, right? - Yeah, I think so. - Yeah. - What was the best time to have made you happy? - Toss in the coordinators and put like, if you have to pick Clint Cubi at Kurt Cousins and Mendoza versus Defansky Pannix and Tua, you easily think-- - Yeah, I feel better about, I feel better about the Raiders. - The other thing that's Defansky I'll say is that, and this I keep thinking about with Bijan as the number two pick and gives is the Falcons have first drum picks and a lot of high draft picks on the offensive line. But the Falcons have Bill Callahan, who came with Defansky from Cleveland. He's considered the best offensive line coach in the NFL, which is worth keeping in mind. - Yeah. - Is the line in Atlanta might be pretty good, which to that, and that puts it over for me crack. - Yeah, yeah. - If Cubi accurate Atlanta would be frothing at the mouth. - Yeah, that's true, that's a good point. - Frothing, frothing mouths. - Over the offensive line play. - We would have babies, big time. Famously frothing over line play. Anyway, that's a very long way of saying, I guess the action item Atlanta, is it other than take Bijan if you have a top two pick? Are you higher on Drake London? Are you high on pits? Or are you like draft Jahan Dott? What is the action item on this? - That's a good question. I think, I mean, Bijan's going, Bijan's going number two. Bijan's going number two, so like, if you want to take it number one, sure. If this was convincing for you. To me, it's more like a pits bet and a London bet, like being confident in London, what he's going to do. But yeah, that's a good point. I don't know if there's a ton of action items on this, to be honest, other than being confident in pits. Or the quarterbacks, I suppose. - Two of you. - You're going to draft two of? - What a year. The takeaway here, the phrase was just uttered. I guess the only takeaway here is to draft Kyle Pits. - See, we're back. We've never been so back. - Who I did just take and a guillotine. - I know, you did. - With our 32 team kids, you leak? - Yeah. - I feel great about it. - Okay. - Does one more team have it you want to throw out? - Another team want to put out there, and it's not, when we say next year's, this year's Colts, I don't mean that this team will be seven and one and be up there with those ramps. - No, but it's smart to shout this team out because I think it's fair. - I think it fits the mold. And I think that this team will be better than this year's Colts, which is the Tennessee Titans. I actually think the Colts will come in last place in the AFC South. I think the Titans will come through. And I think the Texans and Jags will both make the playoffs again, but I think the Titans will beat the Colts this year in the division, which isn't like the hottest take, but they did literally, like, they-- - I think that's a pretty hot take. - I mean, they've had the number one pick and then the fourth pick, like they've not been a good team, but it's for a very simple reason. Bryan Dables made every quarterback. He's been with better for 10 years. And Robert Sala has every defense, Robert Sala's touched for a decade, has been greater than the sum of its parts, including last year with the Niners, when everyone got hurt. They were down three linebackers, and down Nick Bosa, they were down to combined, going into reserves, like nine players that should have been playing or not, and they beat the Eagles in the playoffs, with no Fred Warner, with Bosa, without the-- it was insane how many players, but how consistently Sala's able to get more out of players. And I look at the Titans. I think they'll be weirdly competent. They have a weird amount of pieces on the offensive line. I think the Titans are kind of like the Saints and kind of like the Colts where it's, yeah, a little forgettable. Not always leading the national media with the Tennessee Titans, but I don't know. I think it's easy to make Sala and Dable punchlines as coordinators or as head coaches, but I think Dable is a coordinators rock solid. And I think Kim Ward here too leap, it's like, you know, it's not so sexy, we were talking about a year or two quarterbacks, but Kim Ward's a gunslinger. And Wanda Robinson in the slot, I think Carnal Tain is a rookie, is like a pretty underrated rookie. And Carnal Tait, I almost think it's swaying too far away from what was not a great draft class, that receiver, dude, Carnal Tait was the fourth pick in the draft. He's not a top 60 pick in fantasy. And that is not how the last five or six years have gone in fantasy football. And so I understand why, but I still thought Carnal Tait, my comfort kept being teeny Higgins, 'cause I think that he's not necessarily the most, I think he's pretty slithery actually, but I think Carnal Tait's like instantly a top 10 contestant catcher, receiver in football. Anyway, I wouldn't be shocked if the Titans were weird, they're competent, and it's not sexy, but like Tony Pollard, who we used to love, and then broke his leg, and then went to a poorly coordinated team. Tony Pollard, how much juice does he need to have 'til you're like, oh my God, he's still got it. Carnal Tait being good, Calvin Ridley. I think Kim Erdike might be the best fourth receiver in the NFL for God's sake. Like, so all that's to say, I just, the Titans have a lot of talent that if you saw it happen, I believe it. I would believe every individual player in the Titans could perform. It's worth, I think this is worth shouting out again. This is not like you should be reaching for all these players, anything like that. It's just like when you're in the doldrums of the draft, and there are players just sitting there, and you wanna make a bet on like upside, that nobody else would expect. Yeah, if Kim Ward, who was the first pick in the draft, who I thought had legitimate flashes last year on a disastrous Titans team, like Brian Dable turning him around, and they take a receiver fourth overall to pair with him. I would not, you would not be shocked if the first overall pick in year two takes a big leap with Brian Dable as his play collar. What if he looks a little crazy outcome? What if he looks a little bit like Caleb Williams did last year? There was, I think, some Caleb Williams-esque type play. I've heard a couple of people say this, with Kim Ward, or like, as a rookie wear. He makes the most immoraculous throws, and kind of runs around and does his thing, and there are certain, if you did his best 10 plays, he would look like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, but his fours 10 plays are free. He's trying to make chicken salad, and I chicken share with him. Right, right. Kim Ward, a better quarterback prospect than Daniel Jones? I think so. Yeah, I thought he was, yeah. Well, Brian Dable wanted, just playoff game with Daniel Jones. Do you think Kim Ward is a better prospect than Mendoza? No. No. I think I would have had Mendoza like a tear hire. Okay. I agree with that. But I do think Kim Ward has the kind of thing, also for fantasy, like he rips it, and Brian Dable wants quarterbacks, will rip it. Also, we've talked about this. Just love his confidence. Love his swag. He just has that it factor, he's talking shit to shitter. Yeah, like that to me was like, damn, I like this guy. Also, he started out as a walk-on. Didn't he? You've talked about-- Oh, I think it's, I, I, I sound so sappy when I say-- Holy cross. I think as much as there are issues with the NIL, and the transfer portal, Kim Ward is like the American dream. He went from-- He was a zero star, I think, is what I meant. Zero star crew, Kim Ward went from one college offer to number one pick, and that only happened because of the portal. So it's a reminder, like there's a reason there's NIL on the transfer portal, because the old system is bad. The new one's kind of insane. But Kim Ward's story is, was not possible even four years ago. But anyway, all that's to say-- Hi, Vince, I want to ask you, if you have to pick any Titans player at cost, I suppose, who are you most interested in? So-- I know my answer. I-- who's your answer? This is so ironic, because we make fun of them constantly. But Wandao Robinson's getting 120 targets this year. Oh. [LAUGHTER] I mean, it's, it's going to be, it's a PPR sort of cheat code thing, scam, as I think I've heard people say. But it is what it is. I mean, I think he's going to catch a lot of passes. So I think-- outside the top 115 in drafts. He's the 46th wide receiver off the board right now. - His healing is 240 targets, two years in a row with the 140? - Yeah, 142 years. - He's got 90 plus balls back to back years. - 90. - Offensive coordinator and obviously they paid him a bunch of money, or play call, I should say. - You guys have the point being they paid him to play and Wondale is going to play for 17 million. - I mean, I think Karnel Tate being there is going to siphon away some targets, certainly. But yeah, I think he's still going to be the easy button outlet type guy in that offense. They're going to get him, they're going to scheme up ways to get him the football. - Hi, Vincent, who do you like? Who would you pick? - I think at cost, I think this is a lame answer. I feel like Tony Pollard is not a player at life at cost, but he's the perfect example of a player who will fall. Like every year there's like players that kind of fall 'cause no one wants them. Like we joked a couple years ago, Joe Mixon. Like some, there are certain players that are so boring that like-- - So when he was on you sitting next, he had a good year. - Yeah, round or two. And I think Tony Pollard's a guy that like, you might be thinking about taking him and then you don't and then you come back up and you're like, Tony Pollard is still here. And I'm a, has it to recommend him solely 'cause there's so many higher upside players in that range and rather of like, you know, Karnel Tate or Jordan Tyson or, you know, other receivers, but Tony Pollard had fell. But to Deke's point, Wondale has weird upside. - We're in front of him constantly, but I do come on. Wondale does have upside. And the other part, this is a deeper cut. I'm convinced Kamiar D.K. will be relevant this year. He's buried on the depth chart. He's not, you don't have to draft him like a regular fantasy league. But I think Kamiar D.K. is buried by, you know, this Calvin Ridley, Karnel Tate. You know, there's just a lot of players in Tennessee, but players who move like Kamiar D.K. don't stay on the bench for very long. - 'Cause the Titans have a sneaky, sneaky good offensive skill group 'cause we've gotten some hype from I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R. - I-O-N-R has had some hype in Camp 2. - He's good. - Yeah. I don't know. - Yeah. - Yeah, they have Depp, okay. - So with all that said, - Well, I have one other question when I ask you this, but before that, who's the player that you're most convinced that you wanna take after all this? 'Cause I think, Greg talked about the Saints. I am very intrigued by Jordan Tyson. I think that's the player that I think about a lot. And for me, it's the Vikings. It's Tyler Murray. And Tyler Murray being a 10th round quarterback to me, when he could very easily run for, he could very easily next year being taken alongside Drake May. - Yeah. - If he has a good year in Minnesota, like Tyler's my individual favorite player. And then I like that Jordan Mason's the last running back left. Is there anyone else that you guys like? - I like both Jordan's. I would say Jordan Addison and Jordan Tyson. And then I agree with you, Abon Tyler. - Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm kind of intrigued by ETN buying the dip on ETN, because I think coming into the year ETN was getting a little bit more hyped than the Camara thing happened. And basically, he could end up stealing some of the valuable touches from ETN, but I still think in this offense, if they're, I do think they're gonna try and get him involved in the passing game, ETN as well. So I think ETN could be a value. And then Tyler Schuck, just being a good value is a QB2, especially in superflex leagues. - It's kind of the last quarterback taken that we'll be able to actually sneaky run. - Yeah. - I mean, he could end up like, actually, he was a QB, he was a QB1, he was the QB12, snuck in there, but I mean, that kind of, that's a good value where he's going. All right, now for a special part of today's episode, our ultimate captain's leadership draft brought to you by EA Sports Madden NFL 27, powered by the all new persona engine custom is on another level here. It's your league to run the way you want and draft the players you need. And for the full experience, make your rise with the kickoff bundle and get both college football 27 and Madden NFL 27 standard editions. All right. You doing an ultimate captain TK, who are you building a team around? - I want to go with Baker Mayfield. I mean, he's just, he's a guy you want to be around on the field and off the field. - Vibes, yeah. - Yeah, he's all about confidence, swag. You know, he's not afraid to talk trash with the other team. I like that. It's the guy I want to follow. - I like that. I didn't expect you to go sass, heavy. I got to think sass. - He's sassy. - Yeah. 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Well, it's a good thing in survivor. It's a good thing. Don't worry too much about the details. It's like the Aaron Rogers immunity idol is just funny. It's, I don't know what we call it. Maybe someone, you just get Rogers every week. I don't know the mechanism, but I do think that should be the name. Is the Aaron Rogers immunity idol? Yeah. I think we like that to bill. That's not bad. Let's figure out what it is later. Can I do one real quick? This is from Kyle, from the show Kyle. And Kyle. Did you read the email? No, this is, he texted this to me. Oh. (laughing) But I think, I think it's pretty small. No! Wait, did you already read the email? I thought you were just doing the Aaron Rogers. No, no, he didn't. I was excited. He got an open-the-in box and you were like, "Now I open my text message." Yeah. No, we called me at home. Anyway, here it is. Grenade idea, the league decides on AQB, whether that's Rogers, you know, probably need like a few in case there's injuries. During the draft, this is kind of like our punishment draft, during the actual draft for your league, you draft a week in which you have to start that quarterback. So week one person is drafting that player, then they drop them and then he's back on the white, wave or wire, whatever. But basically, the longer you wait in your draft, the more likely it's gonna be like late in the season that you're stepping on that grenade. And you might eliminate a few of the first few weeks, so it's like there's more stakes later on in the season or whatever, depending on how many people are in your league. But then, yeah, so basically you have to draft a week in which you start the worst quarterback. So you'd be like, "Oh, I want to take Aaron Rogers week three when they play the Raiders." And you don't want to get settled with Aaron Rogers week 14 against the Texans. Right, exactly. In the fantasy playoffs. Yeah. So I think there's some real. Like, it feels realistic because then you're not. It just feels like a mess if you're having. Dude, it random people assign people grenades and things like that. Yeah. That becomes pretty. I mean, if we did that, that's pretty hardcore because that means somebody would land on like, let's say Aaron Rogers in week 14 against the Texans, which kills your chances of winning a playout. I mean, like, if you have to start the worst quarterback in a league against the fucking Texans or whatever, I mean, how early would you make that pick in your draft? Can you do that like the first round getting out of the way? Yeah, right. - Yeah, I think it's kind of a fun, it's a draft day strategy thing, which is kind of fun. - Yeah, my only concern is does it just become like, someone's like, well, I've Josh Allen and the bill's buys week seven, so I'll take week seven. I think that becomes pretty fucking lame. - Kyle didn't think of that, now did he? - Yeah, but then you have to start some piece of shit on week seven. - Yeah, but it makes it easier for you. Like, all right, I want out of backup, 'cause I have to do this. - Okay, you can't do it on your buy week, how about that? - Oh, Kyle did think of that. - Bylaws, yeah, there we go. - Kyle's back. (laughing) - Look, we can work out the legalese and like the small print on this stuff, you know? - We'll know what else we got. - Keep tweaking. - A lot, dude, people love this Ram's 49ers Australia track. - I'm fascinated by it, you know, it's the rear story. - The rear story. - Who is going to Australia for Sean McVeigh? - No, I wish, no. But it is the rear story where sometimes everyone is, I, it is fascinating and not overrated, because all people are going to talk about it, it's the travel to this game and the jet lag and everything. But it's the rear thing where the public and the private is going to be completely, all the players are going to be talking about us, the fucking jet lag and the flight. And it's, it is what they all be thinking about, too. And so we were talking about how, again, Craig, you pointed out that, well, I think it's Mike Florio reporting you, I don't know. But the idea is that the Niners are currently slated to get to the Australia like eight days before the game, which I keep screwing up which day it is. They're playing Friday, but that's ahead. So it's Thursday at like eight Eastern 530 Pacific, but that's Friday. - Yeah. - They're playing in the future. So it's 17 hours ahead, which is really seven hours behind. - Yeah. - So a lot of people emailed in saying that it seems that the rule of thumb is a day per time zone. So if you want to make up seven hours, it takes about a week. So the Niners are doing that. Niners are going about eight days before. And they're going to be there like the week before eight days. And the Rams are going to show up the day before the game. They're going to play the game. And then they're going to leave the day after the game. So they're going to be there like the only full day that the Rams will be in Australia is the day of the game. They're going to arrive the day before leave the day after. - Yeah. - We thought that was crazy, right? Like we thought that was nuts basically. - Well, I feel like that is the like advanced analytics move. The like, we're going to fly as close as we can to the game feels more modern. That feels like we're getting cute. And the Niners are going old school. - That is the consensus among the travelers, among the people that have emailed in from Australia and other people who have experienced. Kind of think the Rams have the better strategy. And that's showing up and just being like, we're going to just fucking anchor to Los Angeles time for like 30 hours and then get the fuck out. Everyone seems to think that'll be better. - They should just circle the plane above Australia and create their own form of sunrise and sunset so that it feels like they're still in L.A. Until three hours before the game and then there's land. - Well, you joke, that's one of the, so here. This email's from Ben. - Bebone. - Ben. - Benji. - Ben says, I'm an Air Force pilot. I have flown across the Pacific. - What? - Yeah, anytime you start it, even though it is really cool. - Ben says, I've flown across the Pacific Ocean. I wanted to offer my thoughts and the different strategies for the Rams and Niners. - What kind of plane we talking here? You know, the big one, probably. Actually, probably not. - You need to fish big? - If he's flying across the ocean, it's probably a big plane. - A big plane? - Well, what is a big plane to you? - They can refuel anyway. - It's a big plane to you. - Yeah. - I don't even describe a big plane. - Like one of those globe masters. Do you ever, you ever look that up? I think that's what it's called. - Globe master, it's a great name. - Oh, that is a big plane. - I think that's our biggest plane. - Oh, wow. C-17 globe master. - That's thick. - Yeah, the thing has some, some girth to it. - So Ben, B-bone, pilot B-bone, Captain B-bone? I don't know. So the typical rule of thumb pilots used crossing time zones just takes your body a day per time zone adjusted. So yes, sitting 17 hours ahead, but that's seven hours. So he said, but that being said, I think the Rams have a clear advantage because their bodies will, please try to track this 'cause I feel like I understand what he's saying, but I'm not totally sure. But he's a pilot. So I think he's right. He says the Rams bodies will only be one time zone away from California time. So the 530 Pacific time kickoff. I think what he means is being there for a day is like your body's only shifted about an hour, rule of thumb. And it'll field to them like it's like 430 Pacific. Their body will feel like it's 430 Pacific, which is not that different when they normally play a night game. The Niners, their bodies will be about five hours off California time. And there still be two hours away from being fully adjusted. So the Niners' body will become really caught somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Niners' body's thinking it's about 12.30 PM when it will actually be 10.30 in Australia and 5.30 in California. And so as long as the Rams stay disciplined with lighting, avoid the sun when their bodies think it's night time. - There we go. - Oh, yeah. And the Rams get back on the plane home before their bodies even know what happened. The Niners run the risk of having players. - You're pulling a bait and switch on your body. - It's just like ice. - It's just like body ice. - Yeah, body ice. - Indian and Jones grabbed the thing and put the bag on it. (laughing) - We're gonna trick our body into thinking we're still in L.A. - It's ocean's 11 with the fake vault. - They're like, nah, nah, nah. - I mean, I'm sure this does make sense. - It feels like a Christopher Nolan movie. - Yeah, and Jesus, yeah. - So the, it is the body ice. The other thing that I think-- - It's accepting them. - Someone put it well is that McVeigh, if you want to be all, you know, financing about it, McVeigh is pulling all of the risk into week one as someone summarized whereas the diners are dispersing the risk across the old weeks. - Oh, interesting. - They're asking, basically someone was like, it's a little risky to ask the diner's bodies. Like, and again, it's a lot to talk about. But like, peak performance does matter. Like, the M will be one of the biggest things they do is sleep, because the baseball players travel so much. It matters a lot. The diners are asking their players to change body clocks twice in like 10 days. Because they're gonna go to Australia, have them change, play a game, get the shit kicked out of them by the Rams, probably, after they go back and change back to East Coast, to West Coast time, and then keep playing football. So whereas the Rams are just kind of sacrificing week one, but no matter what happens, if they don't adjust, they don't adjust, they're back in America, and they never tried to adjust at all. And so I think that that's the other reason the Rams thing makes sense is let's say they lose the game, it's a bad strategy. All right, you're O and one. But you're back on West Coast time, whereas the diners might try, lose, and then have to adjust again, and kind of feel like they're playing another international game in week two, 'cause they're going seven hours back, and they have like a week to do that, which is weird. You know, the diner's getting flocked. - I think, I kind of get what he's saying here, and I think this is exactly what the Rams, I'm sure I've read the research on this, and I have probably talked to some person in the military about it or whatever, and kind of going with that plan. But I still think, my just initial impression is, we're talking about jet lag versus just being fucking tired from flying and traveling. - Again, they're not traveling like you and I are. - Yeah, but you have to fly the whole team there. It's not like they're not an accident. They're not all getting first class. - Do you know what's not an accident? You know the diners playing week two? They get 10 days to play in week two. - Cardinals? - The Dolphins. - Maybe they're renting out like a globe master. - And I think the Rams play Monday night football, like they definitely try to give them as much time as possible in week two. I'm kind of fast in the decade. What you just mentioned is like making sure that the players sleep when they're supposed to on the flights is very interesting. Like I wonder if they're going to have like a sleep fucking goat guru there to be like, everybody take your melatonin at noon? - But that's the thing. - And if you wake up at eight, what if you take the sleeping pills and can't sleep and then you get off the plane and you're like awake sleeping pills? - Yeah, I mean, I just like the worst. - It's like, it's almost just as crucial as the game itself as it is. How much sleep do they get on the flight over? Is it at the right time? - Exactly what I'm talking about. I'm like, when I fly, I get really light sleep. I feel like shit the next day. I'm tired as hell. And yes, jet lag also makes you tired. But I'm like, travel tired versus jet lag. I think I would choose jet lag tired. - They need to provide enough planes where everybody can lay down in a bed in the air. - Hence the globe master. Build some bunk beds. - Oh, maybe they have like a catering cart that they can put the Rams on. Maybe Ben, maybe Ben can fly some of the Rams himself to Australia. - That's good. - This is very fascinating though. Human beings weren't meant to, for air travel probably. We're not supposed to be up to high guys. - Sure we are. - So there we are. - We're gonna be on Mars soon. Come on, what are you talking about? - All right, I got one other email here about microwaves. - Oh, this is interesting. - Okay. - We're gonna talk about how we don't wanna stand in front of it. We don't think it's bad for us, but we also don't wanna test it with our brands. - We're just like putting your hand over your crotch when you're nearby the microwave. - Yeah, but instinct is to make fun of the players for thinking of the substations a thing, but my lived reality is, yeah, I get it. - Right. - So Jay wrote in. - Jay wrote in. - Jay. - Rex, this was an energy drink and protein bar. - Okay, okay. - Jay writes, I'm an engineer. Microwaves are not radioactive. - Okay. - Any call the city, it's. - And he said, if you look at a microwave, you will notice there's a metal mesh screen built into the door. This screen is called a Faraday cage. Microwave rays have a high wavelength that cannot physically fit through the holes of the mesh, even though visible light can. The waves dissipate. - Prove it. - Disappate when they hit the-- (laughing) - Sorry, I'm just kidding. - The waves dissipate, I can never say that. When they hit the metal, you can imagine a microwave ray being a rock, invisible light being like grains of sand. Trying to pass through a sieve the microwave rays can't fit and get stopped So you have nothing to worry about by being near a microwave when it's on and it's a dumb conspiracy theory from people who didn't pay attention in science class So I can put my head right up next to a microwave when it's on put my balls right up to it. It's all good Just drop your balls right on top right on the door. It's like a cage in the suit What if the cage is damaged? Just what if he shot me in the head? All right, that that was there's good to know. No, that is actually quite fascinating This is the sieve metaphor is helpful. Thank you. It is also that's like a useful party knowledge You know, I feel like everybody thinks microwaves are bad for you to stand by It's a fun. It's a fun conspiracy to be a fan of I'll say my friend Jade told me who's an engineer that it's fine Jay said we're good. Yeah, it's a fair day cage I hear a lot about these fair day cages didn't that didn't never know what they were Yeah, I'm always about fair day cages. Everyone's talking about fair day cages. Can't stop hearing about it This is good. If anyone else wants to disprove conspiracy theories, we can do that too disproving low stakes or more low stakes Inspiracies. I'll take either I forgot to say one thing about the saints. I wanted to bring up a Tyler Schuck nickname possibility if he's really good What do you guys think about because he's so old right? That's the narrative. What do you think about super senior? I think is that lame or is that kind of cool? I? Which is the kind of kids we added senior and it's a super senior is super senior kind of tongue and cheeky's leaning in if he's really good at plays or as it doesn't work He could say it doesn't work It's okay. I think it would be incredible if it was like Kyle pits where he added pit senior to his name on his name plate Like if it said Chuck senior, then we got a super senior done Yeah, that's true. I guess if he was a senior it would have played a lot better. You're right. There needs to be other shuckers right there Yeah, but like, yeah, I guess that's I mean, that's certainly the funniest It's not making I'm making sure he's not a senior. He's not although he really although he did play in the senior bowl We may not a senior. Oh, like he has a kid. Oh, yeah, I don't think he has a kid in time making sure that he doesn't Somehow go by Tyler Schuck's senior. We're gonna Google Tyler Schuck's sons Does he have children? The I believe he does. Oh, yeah, actually this year, but the kid is named Grayson dammit, which man We should have he should have named Tyler and then that would work. I know He did play in the senior bowl Okay, I think I'm back. I think it's funny. Yeah, super senior. No, it's probably not good. It's okay. We'll keep we'll keep new to it Okay All right, so thank you to DK. Thank you to Craig Thank you to Cam. Thank you to Nikhil. Thank you to a boo Thank you Austin. Thank you Carlos. Thank you everyone for listening email us with other like microwave adjacent things email some more thoughts on the Australia travel Email us. Oh, you know what I want if you are a sleep expert. Yes, I don't sleep well on planes I sleep terribly on planes. I always have my whole life If you can give me tips on how to fall asleep on a plane. I would be eternally grateful drugs Yeah, I was gonna say that's sure honestly tell me which ones whatever you ambient ambient maybe I don't know why I'd like the expert to tell me Yeah, I'm just I'm throwing out names of things like a couple of ambience and a whisper you'd be fine Thank you Lord keep them good Lord Lord. Oh, am I doing it today? I got it if you wanted. I'm always I kind of want it I kind of want to do it all right and do it if you want it then do it all right We're going to the all-time classic shake that by M&M and Nate dog From 2009 Shake that ask me shake that ask me come on girls first first first versus an all-timer get bus get drunk get crump get fucked up Is that oh nine that's later than I thought I think it's a five I think wait hold on maybe I got wrong one with the curtains, right? Shake that the M&M show or the curtain call curtain call. Yeah. Yeah, it was that. I don't think it's all right. It is 2005. You're right my bad the red one Hey DK let me if you're gonna if you're gonna do the millennial bangers You need to get your information right all right. You're right. That's why I know when this shit I have a question. Does this count as it is it in the right time frame or Yeah, I think my question was shake that which won that yeah, that one That's quite the song to come out when Craig and I were like 11 my other thing about shake that Because that music video get fucked up anime, right? Do you remember the music video for that? I don't vaguely it's great It's when you're 11 nuts I'm one of the first animated music like rap video. Oh interesting. I wonder if there had been an animated made me probably literally yes But I'm wondering how many rappers that really had an animated video yet in like 2005 And again a dog get a seeing some shit. Oh Nick dog to the one of the best voice. I love this song for a feature like a coming in to do the cool hook The three DK you say the next line. I'll say the sun ready to hold on to the one to the one to the three And I'm gonna push you and I like good tree That's a great line you sick fuck. Yeah You sick fuck you sailor you That's a great one adding it to the playlist. I gotta just I gotta release the playlist soon But I get I get my last in a toilet seat and That's good. Oh, that's really good To the one to the one to the three. I like it. Push you and I like a tree God, that's fucking great. Goodbye everyone Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas and affiliation with Kansas star casino Or 18 plus and present in DC Kentucky or Wyoming gambling problem called 1-800 gambler or 1-800 My reset call 1-8-8-8-7-8-9-7-7-7-7-7 or visit ccpg.org/chat and Connecticut or visit md Gambling help.org in Maryland hope is here visit gambling help line ma.org or call 800 327 5050 for 24/7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-8-7-7-8 hope and why or text hope and why in New York for Louisiana call 1-8-7-7-7-7-0 7-8-6-7