Finding Francis | Son of a Boy Dad #422

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Terms apply. Alrighty, welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad podcast. Today, it is Monday. It is July 27th. It's 1.40 p.m. and we are here live from HQ Trez. Welcome back. Happy birthday to Nicky Smokes. Is it Smokes' birthday? He's turning 27 on the 27th, bro. Have some fucking respect. He's only 27. Golden birthday. He's only 27. I thought he was definitely like 28, 29. Well, that's not. Well, if he's 27, that means that he's. Or if he's turning 27, that means that he's a year older than me. I thought he was a couple years older than me. Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah. What can you do? I mean, he kind of. He has a 19-year-old kind of like feel to him as well. Yeah, yeah. But he's like. Yeah, it's like he's like 19, but he's like 30 at the same time. I don't think there are two people on earth more different than you and Nicky Smokes. We're much more similar than you could even imagine. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, we don't have much. You guys just meet at the bag. That's the only thing you guys have is an overlap. You guys just hit the bag at the same time. No words exchanged. Are you talking about the cocaine bag or the money bag? No, cocaine. Oh, yeah, right. I don't do cocaine, though. That's not my thing. And he doesn't make money, so you guys have nothing in common. Should have known. Yeah, I can't think of anything I would actually. That I think would be worse for me than cocaine. Maybe mushrooms. Mushrooms I have a pretty big fear of, but everyone says they're so great. Have you ever done mushrooms? I have a very like lukewarm relationship with mushrooms. It's not bad. It's not good. I've done them a handful of times. Yeah. They aren't as. Whoa. It's like intense. They don't. You're not like seeing shit. Well, not at all. I mean, it's not that at all. It's just that everyone else I know loves mushrooms. People love them. They're like, wow, have you seen the new. They come in sweet tart form. Yeah, people are obsessed. And I don't drink as much when I do them, and it just gives me this happy, gentle euphoria, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, for me, it's. I don't know. The happy, gentle euphoria can't last forever. That's the thing. No, not that. That goes away. And I just end up finding that I'm like running my tongue over the inside of my teeth for two hours. Yeah. And then I'm like, all right, I don't really want this to happen anymore. But I think this is a great point to segue into present Monday. Present Monday? Present Monday. I didn't know we were doing. I didn't know that was a thing. Well. Present day. I would have brought my presents because I was saving them for Tuesday. You can do present Tuesday. That's always on the table. But present Monday is a special. This is maybe a one-off. If it's seven grams of mushrooms, I'll be very upset. Yeah, me too. It is not. Or if it's anything drug-related, I'm going to be upset. I'm cleaning out. It's not. It's. Well, okay. So this past weekend, do you guys want to try to guess what I did? Golf. Golf. No. No. Member guest. No. Golf. Went to a sick restaurant with somebody who we wouldn't expect that you're friends with, but they're actually like. Patrick Kane? Yeah. They're at the top of their field. So random. What a pull. You and Patrick Kane went out to dinner together in Chicago? Yeah, in Chicago. You flew out. You had a Delta deal in Chicago, so you and Patrick Kane had to go to steak 48. This is becoming a weird exercise for me because now I'm seeing how you guys view my life through your eyes and what I do, and I'm like, I don't know if I like any of that. Going out to dinner and having branded deals with celebrities? I don't like my activities, yeah. Did you golf with LeBron? No. In Philly? We played Marion. You Shane and LeBron? That's very good. I was going to. So quick sidetrack. I was going to. I was trying to pull off a present, a crazy present Tuesday. But I never got a response. I texted Shane and I was like, do you know LeBron? Going to try to get that Cavs autograph? That would have been awesome. That would have been game-doing. I really appreciate you trying. You didn't even answer? You just texted him, do you know LeBron? I texted him in a group chat. I said, yo, Shane, do you know LeBron? I said, Shane, do you know LeBron? They'll get to know each other. Oh, definitely. Now. That's why LeBron went to the Sixers. It's for Shane. I saw him playing the link and he's like, boy, they got fans come out. Great community out there. I don't know. What about the. What about Drake? Drake and LeBron don't fuck with each other anymore. Wait, what happened there? LeBron took Kendrick's side. Oh, right. He did. He'll work his way back in. The funny thing there is I guarantee there's. It's in no world is it like Drake going to. Like, I guarantee LeBron goes to Drake with like a deep apology. I think that he was already. I think when he was like. He was tweeting the owl emoji. Oh, really? I don't know. Yeah, he wants back. Yeah, he's got to want back. But Drake has no connection to Philly. Correct. Drake has no connection to America. But if he's anti-LeBron. Canadian. I think he kind of just runs America. I think his house is probably all over the place. Didn't he just buy like an estate in Houston or something like that? Probably, yeah. He must have one of those. He's probably. Do you think he's a citizen? Yeah, 100%. 100%? So you make a. You make a certain amount of money, they just give it to you. He's got to have that duel. I mean, he's an economy. Yeah. I wonder if he has an alien of extraordinary ability. I always thought that was the coolest visa. What? The colloquialism of it is a genius visa. Oh, really? Yeah. For like if you're just like super successful or something? If you're just so. Like, you're such a good artist, you're so good at your job, they give you a visa. It's called the genius alien? Look that up. The genius visa. I know that they. I remember famously, I think, yeah, Nick, the name for you is, yeah, alien. It's alien of extraordinary ability or achievement. And it's permanent. Wow, that's cool. Yeah. See, I like visas, but I've always been more of a Chase guy. Chase does work with visa. I think all their cards are visa. And I know that. Yeah, cool. Well, anyway, this weekend, I went to an ayahuasca retreat. What? Really? Yeah. You did it? Yeah, I did it. You did ayahuasca? No, you didn't. Yeah, I did. No way. That's insane. Did it not take? No, it was weird. I don't know. I feel like you seem the same. I'm still figuring out how. You couldn't seem more the same. I feel like I noticed it more when you did Molly and Montauk. You're like, I talked to Leo. What? You did ayahuasca upstate? Yeah, I did. I went to. They had a, you know, a place, a fucking shaman whole thing. It was recommended to me by a friend of mine who had gone through some really bad grief that he had tried to overcome. Have I talked to him? Maybe I've talked about that. I don't know, but I know that's like, it helps with that. And he suggested, because I was just talking to him about how I feel kind of stuck a little bit. it on some some patterns of thought and i've also kind of started to feel that like my ego is not healthy and i don't mean it in like uh i think it's unhealthy in both directions oh yeah what do you mean like negative and positive yeah yeah i think that you hate yourself but you're also like i'm the man at the same time i probably overcompensate by trying to like yeah convince myself that i'm doing really well or convince other people of that but the underlying truth is that i have a lot of uh internal battles yeah just feel really inadequate in a lot of ways and i don't is that a realization from the ayahuasca tent or no that's why i went going in that's why i went realization wow you were already cured heading in so yeah the ayahuasca was the friends we made along the way you're just going there to get fucked up i was going to get high i heard the beds were comfortable no i'm good i'm just here to get fucking just obliterated yeah you pour me a double i want four fingers of waska i brought my own glass it's a drink yeah it's like a tea the drink it's made with all these sort of like leaves and roots and different things but then the main ingredients are uh dmt obviously it's pretty much like dmt with like l-theanine yeah there's all kinds of it tastes horrible by the way don't you puke did you yeah i threw up yeah i gotta just tell the story i gotta hear this well the big thing was that they you know you go in it's a whole ritual this one wasn't quite as like jungles of costa rica this one was more like i don't know kind of secure medical not medicinal is the way i would put it and um less like ethereal ethereal and where was it like 45 minutes from my place it was not far but was it like a home i had to spend the night yeah it was like a camp but like we're back but the the the buildings everyone had their own kind of little room yeah in a hut or whatever um and then that was all and then we there was like a gap clearing that we went to for the ceremony yeah there were like five other people there it was pretty intimate so what are you like what like right right now like what are your takeaways like was it was it well the big thing the big thing is that like you have to have a very clear intention of why you're doing it yeah and i to be honest with you i did not have as clear of an intention i i expressed to them what i was trying to sort of fix and understand and what was that which was just like this this sense of self and like sense of purpose and meaning in life and like how can i live a more fulfilling life and i'm like i'm not going to live a more fulfilling life and i'm not going to live a more fulfilling life and what do i want for myself ultimately and is the pursuit of happiness like a just pursuit or should it be a pursuit of contentment i don't know i had all kinds of questions and stuff and they were helpful with that but like but when it came time to actually go in and move the pieces of my mind into place which is kind of how they describe it yeah um i was very nervous i don't like hallucinating and i was you know yeah i was pretty scared and i don't think that was good so we drank the the shit drink it out of like a shell it was in like a wooden cup yeah with a ladle okay and uh i drank it it was horrible it was the most putrid it was so how much how many ounces probably like eight ounces so it took a while to drink i chugged it yeah are you supposed to yeah they're like take it down what does it taste like do you have any like like what does it taste like like mud uh like imagine if you imagine if you sucked the sugary coating off of advil and then had to like suck a handful of advil the rest of the way oh it was really really bitter oh i see okay i know what you mean yeah you're like i shouldn't be drinking this yeah it's very offensive to my taste buds um but then uh it took like i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know probably 45 minutes for me to really start to feel the effects oh wow i thought it was like an instant no um and then by the time that that was setting in i remember feeling pretty upset i started to cry a little bit which was good i don't know just like this feeling i had i had a lot of guilt washing over me and then um because of other stuff because you were doing a nasty dirty drug you I just sort of like had these flashbacks to moments in my life where i've like gotten it wrong yeah you know what i mean oh that's bad yeah and i was thinking a lot about my parents and so this is before it's kicked in or it's now starting to kick in yeah he's thinking about the parents it's definitely kicked in i gotta call my mom yeah what's the safe word turn it off how do you fucking pronounce that um but yeah so then my stomach sort of started to turn into knots and that was when the nausea began and they've got like a bucket there they know you're gonna throw up everybody throws yeah yeah um did this cost anything yeah they did arm and a leg it wasn't your soul it wasn't as much as you would have thought is it a thousand dollars it was two thousand bucks oh that's not terrible no i thought it was gonna be like i honestly thought it was gonna be like thirty i only went for one night i think some people go for longer some people will go and like do i think i think they'll do multiple ceremonies and is there like something that they like tell you to focus on like do they put on old episodes with three stooges or like the lion king live action or i mean they tell you to like pinpoint the the stress points in your life and like for me specifically they were like all right i want you to think about your your ego and sort of as this like creature inside of you and yeah you know there's a there's a way to make it healthy and there's a way that it can work against you and you want to try to like push towards the the healthy side of things and understand that like a confident sense of self and a healthy sense of self that's also grounded is vital to like living a balanced life yeah um and so sort of like that lasted that lasted for probably an hour and then i sort of started gently to like come back to i didn't see like tunnels and lights and shit oh wait so that was it that was like the peak well that after i threw up it was like an hour of just being upset so like are you like like no like i get that so like are you are you you're with five other people or four other people and then assuming like staff or yeah i also watching them throw up them no so everyone's like in the fetal position everyone's kind of like staring into the woods and there are yeah people are just like and then and then there was like a couple there and they were like hugging each other and comforting each other and i was like i'm alone yeah you should have been like can we get them out like get them a room or something can we not no one wants to see that i just see people throw up either that's like watching a demon leave someone yeah that's a dark it wasn't great but um dog throw up one thing that was cool one thing that was cool was that they were talking about like people in my life that mattered to me and how like my treatment of them and my relationship with them and uh sort of how i can like how does my ego approach those relationships and stuff like that and when i was leaving they gave us these like i don't know these like small vessels in which you can like basically it's meant to like take you away from you know having relationships for the wrong reasons and you can it's symbolic and like it to be honest with you i was a little fucked up when they were explaining it just all none of it nothing was really working that well i was pretty numb and like loopy but uh i thought i would give them to you guys because uh i spent so much time talking to you guys and um i just thought that this would be a cool gift for such a cool gift i feel like this is gonna be something where like shit's gonna start going wrong in my apartment and it's all gonna be pointing back to the fucking vessel i mean i would consider i would consider trying it so yeah so close your eyes like why is it vibrating in the closet close your eyes and put your hands out why do i hear a tribe singing okay so those are uh go ahead lift open your eyes oh hell yeah you didn't try ayahuasca at all what is this that is the toilet kit they give you in delta one i'm so i thought it was the ayahuasca yeah what i forgot that's crazy i flew across the country on delta yeah he did fly across the country on delta i always make that mistake if you actually had golf with lebron and shane i'm gonna be pissed you know it's really how dumb i am i really thought it was ayahuasca that i did this weekend but no it was a delta flight to san francisco when you handed us these i didn't even think like i knew it was the delta thing but i was like oh it wasn't he didn't do ayahuasca it was the ayahuasca thing but i was like oh it wasn't the ayahuasca thing but i was like oh it wasn't the ayahuasca thing but i was like oh it wasn't the ayahuasca upstate he went ayahuasca upstate he went ayahuasca upstate he went somewhere else like that's where i i still somewhere else like that's where i i still somewhere else like that's where i i still thought you got ayahuasca my fault guys i really i really well that you have to do ayahuasca i totally uh you always ayahuasca because i bought into i was so bought in i was ready to talk about that for the whole episode yeah sort of it's just i don't know it's all blur these days you know and i was about to start asking the most specific questions about what type of material you sat on and shit like that yeah my fault i hate to be that guy too but this is mint would put this to shame oh come on now come on those are made by the hands of children and in the uh ayahuasca community yeah in the masoni province in mint they give you over ear headphones with a case to keep now they collect them well they do that in delta one what are you talking about you're not a mint guy no i'm not you haven't flown delta one that's what that's showing about you i've flown delta one uh twice actually i had to get i went both ways delta one so i got one i kept one on the way and then got the return as well so you didn't grab another one's unused return no so people have hit me with that before they're like hey can i have your can i have your kit wow it's not that's not that i don't know i'm pissed what i'm so mad that you didn't do i was i was really enjoying that story i am i was too to be honest with you can we just live in the reality that you did ayahuasca and just talk about that yeah i mean i feel like i basically described for you why i would go and why i wouldn't go and why i wouldn't go and why i wouldn't go what i would hope to get out of it yeah and so are you gonna go all of that was just a ploy to hand you a delta one toilet kit it's all good i need the sleep mask anyway well i know you'd considered doing ayahuasca at one point yeah but then i just went on regular prescription antidepressants and they worked johnson and johnson actually has an ayahuasca treatment of their own called lexapro yeah exactly wow we might have to do it i i had the clip loaded with follow-up questions oh i had so many questions i was getting a little suspicious i was getting a little suspicious because i feel like i like he was like you talked about the throwing up and then you were like and then it kind of and i was like i feel like that's when it's supposed to ramp up to like the next you were like i didn't see anything you guys are probably accustomed to me telling like you were like that's what we got the whole episode oh totally we're we got it yeah yeah this is gonna be i already i already checked out in my head i was done and i was like and i was like man if the ayahuasca taught me anything it's that i need to tell stories more quickly and also especially if they're not true at all isn't it like a 17 hour like trip it's a long i think it's no no i don't know anything that long i think it's pretty quick but i think it is like very intense i think i feel like people would be people would appreciate if we got to the bottom of this how long does an ayahuasca trip they say that when you're throwing up it's called like they call it purging yeah and you're like getting rid of you're like expelling like the demons from your body and it's like an aggressive throw up did you look into it though like that seemed like there had to have been some truth there i mean i've that place exists there is one up there i didn't research much about any of it all i really know is that i've watched i watched like the aaron rogers documentary oh yeah i forgot he went to do it he's got the fucking paint all over his face yeah and all the other people are like aaron they're like hugging him and he's like singing and it's like yo nfl mvp multiple time mvp monster aaron rogers is among us gypsies as we fucking that would be tough that probably like fucks with your eye like you come back from your ayahuasca trip and you're like i guess i'm just like a huge packers fan i'm not really sure what what i got from that and he's like hugging these hairy armpit women and their hair is like locking up like when two rams catch horns with each other they're just like stuck like two face masks stuck fucking brutal yeah uh 20 to 60 minutes is the onset one to two hours is the peak and then the come down to four to six hours well i kind of nailed that i said 45 minutes in and then i was like it was an hour of peaking four to six hour come down for an hour of peaking is pretty brutal yeah i don't i i'm afraid of it i bought that you um i kind of bought it that like it didn't really take for you because you said it was mostly dmt and i tried to do dmt one time and i but i smoked it it's like a powder and it's like that's like doing being doing that's how you're supposed to do it you're supposed to like vaporize it yeah but that's like smoking crack like you're smoking a powder well you're not but i don't dmt do they i don't know i know people have it in like weed pens now oh it didn't it didn't really do much for me and a lot of people are like oh you didn't break through like i saw like hieroglyphs but like that why don't you just do it tonight get one of those pens i swear the kids go to bed yeah hit the deemsters i got four to six hours to kill hit the dmt yard damn i wanted you to have done it so bad maybe i'll go do it maybe i'll go do it now uh now that i enjoyed telling i was honestly like i was like i i i like you don't you seem you seemed the exact same and i was like i feel like something like you would be definitely be a little different if you did it you'd come back like indian i would have like a fucking yeah in the middle of the four hundred percent yeah just come back wearing a fucking sarong wearing leather leather like you would be beach cloth minimalist i sold all my clothes yeah barefoot i gave them i don't need anything i haven't eaten in three days you come in barefoot with just all of your belongings sitting cross-legged looking like rick rubin beard grown out i see that you're wearing the shoes of the colonizer uh yeah i uh no i went to san francisco for the weekend why did you go to san fran that's even weirder uh the fuck were you doing san fran did you stay at the one out there i know that's your hotel no i stayed at the four seasons which was sick it was pretty good were you there on vacay no i had to go shoot something oh um business yeah not pleasure no pleasure at all there was some pleasure i played a golf club out there so we were right yeah but that wouldn't have squared with ayahuasca so when you came in you said what do you guys think i did this weekend and i'm pretty sure i said i'm pretty sure you golfed in san francisco you didn't say san francisco no i'm kidding yeah work hard and hydrate hard with body armor flash iv whether you're working in extreme heat or powering through a long shift body armor flash iv delivers faster longer lasting hydration with more than 2 000 milligrams of electrolytes vitamins b and c and zinc coconut water and no artificial sweeteners flavors or dyes body armor flash iv keeps you performing at your best get body armor flash iv at your local 7-eleven to the bay area the greater bay area it doesn't count it has to be more specific can you tell us about the shoot or is that uh is that i was it was a thing for chase uh it'll come out on my chase got you going worldwide yeah baby you know it you know damn flew to san franc for chase hit the hit the links i know you hit some nice restaurants and i know you linked with somebody i did go to a cool restaurant it was called state bird provisions it was cool it's like this dim sum version of the state bird provisions it was cool version of american food i don't know it was a little too chaotic to be honest with you they bring around these trays that have like this it has like a sign that says like six dollars and it's these like specific types of oysters or you know ceviche type thing but they're coming the whole time so you don't know really in the beginning you're like yeah we'll take that we'll take that we'll take that oh yeah you're like i would have passed on a few of those yeah if i knew if i knew none this was coming and now i'm not that hungry and i've only eaten like bread heavy things what is that like uh the chinese um dim sum like he said oh that's what you did was dim sum no it is it's exactly you serious i didn't i didn't miss that completely i was still thinking about the ayahuasca i did ayahuasca this weekend i was waiting for you to wrap up talk about my experience people do act like that is a proprietary the dim sum experience is proprietary but i saw italian restaurant this weekend where people do that they're like you'll love this little italian restaurant where they come out with like plates of spaghetti brazilian steakhouses do the same thing the brazilian i went to a brazilian steakhouse and that fucked me so bad because they bring out the best cut of the steak last and you're like well i just had fucking skirt steak like i was just hammering back chicken thigh dude i cannot imagine what a brazilian steakhouse does to your stomach yeah you're shitting an anaconda my stomach's so fucked up it's like not even like it's actually like unacceptable at this point yeah yeah but you know why and you don't choose to do anything about it well why well isn't the vaping really bad for it i quit vaping did you i've quit vaping like a thousand times no yes but no i actually have quit i use the uh pouches now fantastic the vaping 100 fucks my stomach up also so does weed which i'm i'm taking a break from the you're off the fog yeah how long has it been a day oh wow So you're committed? I'm in, deep. I think you told us yesterday you were off the fog, and so if you're saying it's been a day. When did I tell you guys yesterday? I told you this morning. Is that what it was? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. How does it feel? Do you feel fresh? No. I feel awful, but I feel the exact same. I feel fine. I'll be fine. I just got to give the brain a reset, you know? You know what's great for that? I'm not reaching my full potential right now. Ayahuasca. Get him on the wasca. Get him a fat cup of wasca. That's honestly not a bad idea. The thing is, then I'll just start doing ayahuasca every day. This is how I wind down at night. Throwing up. Just got it in a sippy cup. Yeah. And then I'll come in on Monday, I'll be like, my stomach's fucked, bro. I don't know what's going on. Must have been a bad batch last night. I had diarrhea. Because usually it's just the throwing up, but now I'm getting diarrhea on top of it. I think that is. That was going to be one of my first questions, is that people do shit themselves off of it. Off the wasky. I mean, that's got to just cut right through you. Straight to the ass. Yeah. That would be like not, like if you were to do it and you were only to shit and not throw up, I would do it. Just to get the shit out. Yeah. It's a natural laxative. Severe nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, sweating, and increased heart rate and blood pressure. Yeah, that sounds like hell. Yeah. Bless you. Just to get a little high. Just hit the pen. The pen. The pen is the devil. Well, the DMT pen. Yeah, true. People have DMT pens. The Deemsters, nothing like it. I see that on like Twitter all the time. The DMT pen? Yeah. Or the nasal spray full of ketamine. Yeah, yeah. I've heard about that as well. The LeJuan. I was going to say, I heard LeJuan has one of those. Yeah, LeJuan's got one. Oh, yeah. I've seen that before. Someone had that at a wedding I went to. LeJuan. And someone I knew took it and didn't really know what it was. Yeah. And then that person ended up getting very sick from it. All right, enough. Can't do anything about it. Enough already. It's performative. Well, it's masturbatory. I'm sick as a dog. You are? Yeah. Come on, bro. I've been sick since I got back from Vegas. Just a little head cold. Breathe that way. I'm trying. I'm sorry. Breathe a different way. Maybe I'll just go home. It looks like. It feels like. It feels more like allergies, though. Yeah, it's been a. The sneezing is unbearable. What's the fallout with the Vegas stuff? I saw that Dave wants you to live in a house. Yeah, I don't really know. Like, I don't even know how that's possible. I live in New York City. And I do a podcast in New York City. Yeah, I don't know. But, like, I mean, I don't really know. We haven't. I haven't talked to Dave about it. I know Jerry talked to him a little bit about it. I think Dave thinks, like, he sees the only way of it, like, really working is with a content house, which is a great idea. Like, we thought about that. Like, we want the players to be together regardless. But Dave obviously said me and Jerry have to live in the house full time. Jerry's got a family. Two kids. Yeah, he basically gave you an ultimatum that he knew you couldn't. Yeah. exceed to. But I'm hoping that there's some sort of in-between that we can work out. You know? Like, where we. Maybe, like, I don't live in Chicago full time. But, like, maybe if we have a tournament. Like, I was saying, like. I think if we have a content house, I think that completely removes the need for us to go to the tournaments in person. Like, obviously, we want to go to the tournaments. But if we're getting all of the in-person content out of the way in Chicago. Now I need you to sneeze again because your nose sounds so stuffed up. It's not going to get better. Like, I need you to have just one more. It's going to be like this for the rest of the day. One more sneeze to get it out. Now, just allergies? I don't know what it is. See if there's anything in your ayahuasca kit that maybe. Take a little look there. It might be on the. Use the socks to blow your nose. It's Eastern medicine. Start blowing your nose into that compression sock that they have in there. Put the earplugs in your nostrils. That's actually a good idea. I think that Dave did the. It is a pro move when someone asks you for advice and you just give them something that's impossible to do. And so it's like, yeah, come back to me when, like, you can run a 4-2-40. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And bench press 500 pounds. Yeah, no, he knows it's impossible. But if there's a world where we do, where we are able to get. Like, a house for the guys, I think that would be sick. I think that would be awesome for, like, the online tournaments. Dude, it's so funny to me that, like, that's how you hear what he said. Well, he suggested it. But he did it only to have you guys there. There was a day between suggesting the content house and then the ultimatum. We just got to get him back in the mood of before the ultimatum. I'm telling you, I don't think Dave's going to put. He's not going to buy or rent a house. He's not going to buy or rent a house for four. But it would, if you think about it. Gaming burnouts. But if you think about it. Bums. Four bums? If you think about it, it would be cheaper than us going to the tournaments. For those budget conversations. That everyone's dying to hear about. Here, Dave, we're going to save you money. There's no good way to frame it. Buy a house for four guys. There's no good way to frame any conversation where you have to ask for money. Dude, the thing is. It's always bad. Even if those guys lived in a house together, they still wouldn't talk to each other. No, they would. They definitely would. And they would blow up all. They would get in fights all the time. And it would be good content. But I don't know. We'll figure that out. Do you know any other brands at Barstool that have not only one budget meeting, but dozens of budget meetings? I've never seen anything like this phenomenon in my life. I've never seen such a physical manifestation of mountain out of. Of a molehill. It's just. It just doesn't stop. They're, like, creating bureaucracy in real time. You're, like, create. Putting, like, middlemen. You're, like, creating, like, a. It's pretty. It's just nuts to watch. Well, there's just a lot of shit that we have to do. Like, I don't think. I don't know. I don't know. The only other brand that I've been a part of from the ground up is this one. But this brand, we didn't have any meetings. Ever. And that's how I like it. But, like, I don't know if that's because we didn't have meetings, or if that's because the barstool people in the background were handling everything. Like, I know we. I know this brand has a budget. Like, we have a budget that we're allowed to use. But, like, we didn't. It's not like we all met and sat down and, like, broke down the numbers and were like, we should be fine with this. Well, my guess. My guess is that one of the reasons we don't end up having meetings is because we really don't use any of our budget. We're very. Yeah, it's a cost-free show. We don't really do that. I wouldn't say it's cost-free, but. I mean, it's damn near. Again, we have three brilliant producers, seven cameras, all these lights. That comes with a cost. Well, I know it comes with the cost of us being employed from barstool, but there's no, like, extra cost. Like, this is all of our jobs. What was up with that Discord manager fucking talking shit on MOOC? Oh, yeah. I mean, that goes back months. What's that all about? I mean, it's not really my thing to. Did you see this? This dude in Austin, we're basically like, how can we get. How can we get fucking. How can we get MOOC out of here? This was the end of the relationship with Austin, though. This is, like, what sparked the whole thing. And he's. And Austin was like, I would, but, like, you just. You don't understand the power of friendship. Him and Sass are friends, so I can't get rid of him. Wow. But I would put this Discord manager in Telluride Bush if I could. But this is what. This was the argument that I had when I was saying that he won this. Does he know who that guy is? We all know who he is. He's been working with us since the beginning. Have you met him? Yeah, multiple times. Oh, he shows up. He comes to the events, yeah. Got it. But, like, I don't know. I don't really got anything to say about him. Like, he's fine. He does his job well. He crossed every single line that you could possibly imagine. That's not doing your job well. Well, he did. Like, he did do his job well. Like, he showed up every. Like, when we won the major in Atlanta, like, he was, like, getting the players everything they needed, getting them waters, getting them food. He's, like. He's keeping. He's keeping track of all, like, the statistics and stuff. Like, he's letting them players know when they have to play. Every. He was doing everything. He was just doing, like, all of, like, the little shit that no one else wanted to do. And we were, like. We loved him. We were gassing him up big time. We were, like. We were, like, Phenom's a fucking superstar. That's his name, Phenom? Well, that's his, like, Discord name. Oh. And then. I didn't know if it was, like, he was Vietnamese and it was called, like, P-H-E space. No. Phenom. No. And we have, like. Very funny clips. I brought waters. I did everything for him. We have, like, very funny clips of him, like, yelling in the. When the players are playing. Like, they. When they're playing and they get a kill, they yell out, dead. Like, they scream, like, dead. It's actually pronounced Ph-Nom. That's good. But. It took me too long. It's the fucking ayahuasca. Yeah. So, like, we have funny clips of him yelling out, dead, when the players are playing. Like, he's. Oh, that looked painful. All passion. He's all passion. And then the thing happened with Austin. He's DMing Austin, saying that he should have Mook's job. Obviously, like, we're not going to work with him after that. The craziest thing was, like, Austin siding. Like, that was the whole thing where I was saying. Remember? I don't know if you guys remember last week when I was talking about it. And I was like, Austin said, like, he wants us to be taking advice from, like, the fans. And that was who he was referring to. And. That's not quite. That's not quite. That's not quite. Quite as, uh. i don't know how to put it that's not as bad as i thought it was worse it's worse you just don't i don't think i don't think you are grasping it i can explain it the i do grasp it you just sang that guy's praises and said that he's a very intrinsic part of the whole operation he shows up he knows there's a lot of people involved in bush and a lot of them are very passionate and and are very happy to be doing this that doesn't mean that they are um like i don't i don't i don't want to like kill phenom here but like barstool is never going to hire phenom he doesn't bring anything to the table that barstool would hire especially now after he publicly tried to take mook's job i think i meant that when you said that austin said you need to listen to the fans i thought he was referring to just like random people on twitter but he's not like that he is so like phenom's whole thing is that he moderates this discord discord is very similar to reddit where like it's like essentially it's like one big group chat like you you all like it's all a bunch there's like we have like there's probably like a hundred dudes in there every day that are talking and and shitting on us and talking about the bush which is whatever that's what all of those things are for um phenom texted mook a list of like suggestions from the discord and if you look at the discord these people are just rag dolling on us constantly which again i don't care that's what that discord is for that's what they're going to do with it but that doesn't mean like we got to be in there looking at their suggestions they're not tony no no exactly and singing their praises so mook responded to phenom and was like i don't give a fuck what the discord's saying like i'm not we're not listening to those guys very valid if you read the discord ever you would understand that is an extremely valid response to that and then phenom sent that to to austin pretty much saying like mook won't listen to any of our suggestions like he's not doing a good job etc etc whatever crazy move by phenom to try to publicly take mook's job and then the craziest thing is that austin sided with phenom like is that not fucking like i get like barstool is a place of like tough love and stuff but that's like you're you're you're literally going against an employee of the company that you supposedly like stand for like he's like this is all like like you know he talks he has the conversations where he's like he's like jerry's one of the one of the dumbest guys we got and it's like well if it's a whole we thing like why are you publicly why are you publicly talking shit about one of your employees to a discord that's like if someone on like reddit it's like kate should be off the yak and then someone's like in the response he's like yeah yeah what the fuck is like even if austin hates mook that's not something you do i wouldn't like if if me and you got an argument i wouldn't go on the instagram i wouldn't be replying to instagram dms being like yeah francis needs to fucking figure his shit out like that's like talk to a fucking therapist that's not a conversation you have with a fan of barstool and i don't want like i know i said phenom does a lot but at the end of the day he's a fan of barstool like he's obsessed with like it's crazy yeah i was just thinking um i don't know what i was thinking i i think that i think that uh people in these communities they they may make make it seem like um what they're sharing is is fundamental truth yeah and if they were to allow and we do it here at barstool too if you allow the truth to actually seep in which is that like none of this is either necessarily correct or that there are other opinions out there or that there are more important people and things happening then it punctures that bubble that you've created yeah um so i don't really have a whole lot else i was trying to just get really philosophical it's nice i've been enjoying your philosophical takes i like you you even philosophically coming in being like ego yeah well that is something that i've been really struggling with in truth if i were to go to an ayahuasca retreat uh i would be trying to do it for that reason you know who who would be better at a ayahuasca retreat than you phenom maybe phenom will be better than all of us i'm not going with that guy i stand with mook we should just have phenom on the show mook is my buddy i like mook a lot i mean if you've met if you ever have met mook you've met austin and you've met phenom it's pretty easy to walk away from this one and be like yeah mook's definitely the most sane person in this yeah i just had to bring it up because i saw who published the dms between phenom and austin because that was phenom did he thought he posted them to the discord thinking it was gonna like uh like bail him out and then like because he like pretty much runs the discord like they look at him like he's god dude the whole time you were talking i was just thinking about how my ayahuasca healer would have coached me through that situation i like it was it's like the louis bit where like i literally imagined that i had done it and i was like what how did she tell me how did mother counsel me through these moments those trips are hard because like uh i was i'm empathizing with you as if you had done it as well because like you seek this like greater meaning and then maybe you'll get a shred of truth and then you like try to hold on to it so tight and then you wake up the next day you're like wait what was it what was the fucking universal truth that i i learned from that i feel like you just got to leave those like you're leaving those places like and you're like i just got fucked up last night it's all that happened no no no no people you mean no you didn't do it you've never done ayahuasca you're talking you're talking from the same thing as all of us where do you think you're going to go to the i think i got these dream catchers from um i think there is something everyone says it it fundamentally rewires yeah they don't want to admit they just paid two thousand dollars to go get he made up the price like don't you get it it's probably more it's probably more ten thousand dollars to get fucking retarded for 30 minutes and then leave and be like i feel like i'm a better person now i actually i am actually better than i feel like i get it now yeah well i'll be honest with you i didn't even do it and i had i didn't your story didn't bother me like all of that i just i pictured it as like drops of water rolling off my shoulders into an infinite ocean that never rises above my ankle bones yeah you're right i'm i'm honestly i i i'm glad we ended that story when we did because i'm probably sick of tired talking about it yeah i'm a little sick of talking about i feel like i got everything out that i wanted to say last week i think that's fair and you did a great job it was an all-time episode probably the best one we've ever done well i don't know about that let's put it this way that's the hardest i've ever laughed at anything you've ever said and you're a professional comedian maybe the hardest i've ever maybe the hardest certainly the hardest i think i've laughed on the podcast and probably the hardest i've laughed truly out loud in like five to ten years i was i was in so much pain i think the hardest i've ever laughed on the podcast is when we had war mode on and and you asked billy if he was a flat earther and he was like well i'm not married to the war mode and i was like well the globe uh here's a funny little little segue okay yeah funny little thing um when i was flying home yesterday um i you know they bring you the food on in delta one yeah and i had the chicken fucking astronaut food it was pretty solid it was fine 20 000 milligrams of sodium yes definitely it's delicious what are you talking about are you gonna disparage delta all of a sudden i'm not i love you just forget who you are i love delta seats the one thing like the one thing you should not have that they bring are those little shrimp uh like poison those have never been in water yeah that is i would not eat that those are like true ground yeah maggots really all it is earthworms that have been petrified to the shape of a hook but um they took our food away and i'm sitting next to a guy who he's wearing like a cypress quarter zip which is one of the sickest golf clubs in the country so he's my age you know you're gonna talk well i was gonna be some talking i had already talked to him a little bit and he's in the aisle and i'm in to the left of him yeah and she comes by and she's got um she's got these like it was the dessert portion and it was you could either do like cheese and nuts or you could do this sort of like i i guess it was like a tiramisu bar right and i was like i'll do the chocolatey thing she handed it to me and she was like i'll be right back with your spoons and i went that's okay i'll just eat it with my hands okay and she was like i'll be right back with your spoons and i went that's okay i'll just eat it and she went what and i then picked it up and it was so soft it was like cream thought it was gonna be like i thought it was like a brownie and my fingers just went right through the middle of it and dude me and this dude started laughing so fucking hard i was so embarrassed she watched me just go like try to pick it up and just have it all it's all over my hands and i went i thought it was solid oh that's like picking up foam yeah it's like picking up a bubble bath uh and i licked my fingers and i was like i'll take the spoon she's like i thought you might damn that's hilarious going right through so funny pinch through speaking of that or i guess kind of if we're just going we're going to some loose transitions here i watched the back rooms last night okay that's nothing to do with what francis said kind of have you seen it no they go through a wall they go through the wall and it's very what's the back room straight through no no crunch or breaking open it's probably one of the worst movies ever made i thought people loved that bro that movie was you out right when obsession came out okay so it was very overshadowed by obsession but like right when they both came out the talk of the town was like oh obsession in the back rooms just came out and then it slowly became obsessions in theaters yeah and then it was no one's talking about the back room didn't lev read for the the lead role of it of obsession oh not back rooms which actually is it does it's funny that does make sense because it's always such like a low budget like indie film what does that mean it means lev's not getting auditions to be in fucking marvel movies it means lev will be paid in pizza um but shout out lev by the way great guy no no no you just threw him under the but you just no i didn't throw him under the bus you tried to make it that i threw him under you were easy you tried to you tried i was saying that no you tried to audition for a sick movie but you were like oh no yeah the way that you said it was like that didn't happen and then i justified lev's comment and said it actually no that's true he did get an audition for the better movie of the two and i was trying to big him up and then you thought he got an audition for the worst one no no yeah yeah you're saying his dog shit you said bat obsession was great i didn't watch either of them so how would i know that it's not that good but it's better than the back rooms that's for sure i just thought it was cool that lev had an audition for something you're like well he's not a he's not in marvel shape and now you were trying i'm like what do you mean anymore you wanted me to put him on the spot and say nasty things about him which i would never do no you just in fact i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to potentially voluntarily said nasty things i heard uh i heard you were with my boy pete this weekend as well buddha judge at the nicest he big guy hard to miss tallest guy you've ever seen oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the stand owns that uh that spot yeah that spot now where was it chelsea musical yeah oh cool how'd you know they bought chelsea musical because we were looking at that as a venue for me to potentially film something really yeah it's a pretty cool show ceilings are a little low yeah is that what you came up with uh no i mean i've done shows there before how was it uh depends ceilings are kind of low but that's what you want you want low ceilings that's what i'm saying yeah i also feel like the ceilings aren't very low no i've done a couple shows there it's fun i mean it's a good club yeah great club it's i don't i wouldn't say it's on it's as good as the stand like their main i wouldn't even call it a club dude i'm in such a weird place right now mentally like i literally was so convinced that i had done ayahuasca that i'm now seeing all this conversation as though how i would react i would love to find out that you did do it and you just kind of like got nervous and bailed halfway through that conversation that would be awesome did you hear snoop dogg's story about ayahuasca this week he basically said that he did ayahuasca one time and it was a terrible experience and he thought he died for 15 minutes and literally was hovering over his body watching his his body from like outside of it yeah i'm good on that dude uh i met a couple guys out in uh san francisco who are part of the they're members of the bohemian grove oh you know about that yeah yeah that's pretty crazy are they like so it's like it's not crazy yeah coming from three guys that are members of bohemian grove yeah it's actually pretty laid back bro bohemian grove the kids want to be like bohemian grove they want to be there we were making we were making the joke they were like if anything it's gay yeah it's just men going into the woods and listening to folk musicians play the guitar yeah and talking a little bit with like the head of the treasury about what interest rates are going to do in the next year yeah where'd you what interest rates are going to do yeah they're deciding if we should invade iran or not i'll tell you why that's what's happening and i hope my dad wouldn't mind saying that my dad's ben and he's the most normal person alive he's not out there burning children at the fucking stake that's what you think i know i would never disparage your father i would hope i'm not going to disparage your father either but it's like his dad lev who won't you fucking disparage this is you this is all you what did he say about it he said it was cool like you know you you see interesting people there's really talented artists there's like artists that come and you know tell stories or they play music or whatever and then other than that it's just like rich dudes and but i thought all the most of the history was from like more in the past than it is now i mean it's still pretty vibrant now they go it's it's a certain number of weekends of the of the summer i tried to watch a documentary about it and the only one that was out there was made by alex jones yeah exactly him i think it's like him narrating the whole thing by the way if you're on anything in the world with alex jones you need to kind of go another way i think he's been at this point discredited well he's fully compromised that's like he's been compromised for a minute since israel took over sure okay jesus christ anyway well it's true i mean he had all these opinions and then all of his opinions completely 180'd what do you think that that has anything to do with that massive lawsuit that he lost where he has to pay a billion dollars yeah he doesn't have money like that he doesn't have the cash i mean he's a piece of shit he's a bad guy he doesn't have the cash to freely think anymore he's a bad guy but he's also compromised okay that twisted well either way my point is uh that at the bohemian grove that the somehow conspiracy theory latched on found it latched itself onto it and then these guys that i was hanging with were normal and like one of them had gone recently he said that as he was driving out of it after the weekend of like you know camping and doing all this fun stuff and getting fucked up that like the gates of the forest or whatever there were like 40 fucking paparazzi slash conspiracy theorists like with their cameras desperately trying to get shots of whoever was leaving yeah what how pathetic imagine staking that out i want to i want to be on your side here but i'm having a hard time i'll be honest i guess my point is if you do assume that there's nothing going on there yeah that's pathetic if you assume there's nothing going on there but that is my assumption because my dad went yeah yeah i mean look i don't think it's like maybe my dad's like we can't trust him we're not gonna show him where we fucking fillet the kids talk about it on this podcast yeah his son's got a big mouth it's like they showed him what north korea shows tourists this is where we have our folk songs you campfires yeah s'mores would you like a s'more yeah i don't know i mean i don't again i really don't know when the cops show up and uh what's that movie uh where they have the house party and it's like project x it's a great movie and all the people are in the back just quietly like oh have a good evening have you ever seen that friday beer sketch with uh where will angus he's like shows up on the fourth of july yeah i did and they're all hiding under the balcony that was pretty darn good funny um i don't know a lot about bohemian grove i i i heard about it i think on a war mode episode and then i tried to like look into it and then i couldn't really find anything i would assume it's probably um there's probably nothing crazy happening there correct it's crazy not to if you think that there's like pedophilia going on to like wait by the gates and try and grab a picture as opposed to trying to stop it what are you doing like that's not helping yeah you really think there's kids a couple miles away down in the woods that are you know getting abused yeah let's get a closer shot maybe let's let's let's fucking get photos of the perpetrators are there any like notable like famous people that have gone there i mean i know like like presidents like ronald ray or no like uh richard nixon or some shit what am i thinking of camp david i know they all went to camp david but there was like some singing in the woods isn't camp david like a part of like the government owns it the what yeah that's the presidential sort of retreat um i think the idea there was like let's build a bohemian grove just for the president bohemian grove east coast if you're a pedophile but don't like long plane rides yeah yeah you're not really in for that long flight get a home imagine camp david babe we just got the brochure for camp david what uh fuck can we can we look up uh celebrities that have been to bohemian grove also like are they paying the folk singers and also like i think artists get some kind of free membership like you can be an artist member but you have to that you will do something you will present your art in some way so it's a corporate gig yeah yeah and they're getting they may you must get paid you should have honestly tried to get in on that francis well i just have no idea really i don't know much myself about what the point of doing it is other than kind of making connections jimmy buffett all right it's good people they're going in o'brien conan and jimmy buffett jimmy buffett i think this might this place might rule yeah exactly imagine being out in the woods with your boys listening to a live jimmy buffett concert i knew henry kissinger went i knew that um yeah i mean it would be cool to like listen to the world leaders and thought leaders tell you kind of a little bit more of the inside scoop on what's happening with you know foreign policy and i don't know going camping with michael bloomberg sounds like ass yeah but i think that a lot of the camps are much more like glampy yeah i think you can kind of really zhuzh it up a little if you go with the right people you know who i think has a camp like that uh fucking papa john or no no not papa john jimmy john oh wait is that it says nixon said longtime member who famously referred to the camp in tapes as the most faggy goddamn thing you can ever imagine and that's nixon that's nixon saying it that's crazy i haven't heard that word in a lot faggy like an adjective yeah well i mean that was probably 68 when he said that when did your dad go uh once they straightified it yeah once it wasn't gay anymore once my dad was like okay now we're good so does that mean that nixon wasn't a fan of it or was that like he's saying singing and ringing endorsement yeah he went all the time but he thought it was gay and that's kind of what i said that's started this i don't know i don't know i'm so funny yeah it just sounds great but sometimes a guy guys gotta gotta hang out with guys in the woods yeah come on what are we talking about so they're like boy scouts where are we supposed to hang out it can't all be on the golf course or at the no sometimes you gotta get you gotta hit a creek sometimes yeah you gotta get to a creek can't just be in the discord no no you gotta you gotta touch grass like people joke about it but you really do yeah you gotta smell earth you gotta rub pine sap on your you gotta see a moose you gotta unite the clans too did i even tell you guys about the moose that we saw in wyoming you didn't oh it was fucking crazy we've seen a bunch in wyoming like the place that we usually go in northern wyoming we see like hundreds and they're like right around where we're fishing and you just got to be like super alert the whole time this place that we were at like we there was we were kind of under the assumption that like there's we heard coyotes at night but that was it um there's a shit ton of like cattle around so we we saw one moose the whole time and it was like we were turning the corner of a river a river on the bank and we saw we saw the moose and it was sitting down across the river like very like probably like a hundred feet and uh and then it got up and it was when it got up it was the size of like uh it's like the room it's the size of the room like it like a like a ram pickup truck wow that's a good comp i was wondering what you were gonna pull like fucking like a literal house yeah and then it starts running towards us it crosses the river towards us and we immediate like it crossed the river which by the way was so deep like we couldn't cross the river because it was like up to our necks right it walked through the river their legs actually extend down that's what it looked like when they go into the river its body did not get wet they they it's like a tripod they unhook one of the buckles and you can lengthen it out yeah yeah it's like kick yeah the spider from wild wild west yes yeah it was and then it and then we started walking the other way and luckily it turned it turned the opposite way bro when it turned and it started running i've never seen a moose run like that i mean it must have been going a hundred miles per hour what was your plan when it started what would you have done we had bear spray so like if we does it do moose are they yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know yeah yeah yeah they would have to go to that it would i mean it would it would yeah it would definitely respond to that can you um climb a tree to get away from a moose yeah that's probably there were no trees around like the thing is like moose are mostly in like meadows with a lot of like bushes and shit oh interesting who has that who had the bear spray on them all three of you we tripled up did were you guys were you guys like locked and loaded when you saw it you guys all had hands-on weapons yeah of course really yeah bro you're walking through the woods with your hand on it the whole time you're walking through the woods with your hand on it the whole time holy shit really because dude that you like the it's not like when you get in at least from what i understand like i i don't think it's like when you get attacked by or you get you know like attempted to be attacked by like a moose or a bear it's usually not like they see you from a mile away and they're like i'm gonna fucking kill this person it's usually like you scare them and it scares you and then it attacks you so it's like if you're going through like the deep woods and stuff like you have to be like making a lot of noise and you have to be like making a lot of noise so you know you're walking and you're just constantly you're like hey moose hey moose like stuff like that wait do you say hey moose or hey bear it depends on what what area you're in you know which neighborhoods belong to which oh you kind of can get an idea yeah why because like if you're in better schools bears are not going to go to places where there's people or there's like any signs of people like they're like they will but they won't they have bigger backyards yes and they're not going to go to places where there's like any signs of people yes they're in the deep deep woods so like that place that we hiked the first half of the trip like that was like grizzly country like we when when bo talked to the rancher that owned it he was like this whole area is called the kill zone oh and he said that the elk come through here in the mornings and the bears camp out and then they take down the elk that i thought bears i thought bears were by and large uh plant eating oh i mean i'm sure it's a little bit i mean they eat salmon i know yeah but i thought like grizzly bears by and large i didn't know a grizzly bear would eat an elk can you look that up please tyler that's what the guy told us unless he was just fucking with us which i did have uh some suspicions about i wouldn't i was like are you sure that guy wasn't just saying that to like make us scared he said the area that we were camping and they called it he said that's where they get all their kills wow yes they eat elk okay uh you learned something new listen i don't need to know i don't know you don't need to know that i'm stupid you've made it this far in your life without knowing it uh yeah exactly if someone tells me there's a kill zone nearby i'm going the other way all right i'm not i'm smart enough to know that we already set up our camp completely and just decided yeah when the three of you guys walk who walks first surprisingly on the way there it was me wow i was leading the charge because uh so that means you have to be the one to discharge your service weapon if he comes at you because if one of the guys in the back shoots the the bear mace if the rest of you guys are going to get fucked up you're going to be the one to get fucked up you're going to be the one to get fucked up you're cross-fired if we came across a bear in a situation where we needed to use the spray we all would have gotten fucked up the bear included and all of us included with the mace with the mace bro we have three the the the bear spray it it's like probably the size of like this bottle it completely disposes of all of the spray in five seconds oh you got one shot you have one they say you're supposed to like kind of like burst it yeah like tap it otherwise the barrel gets destroyed you're supposed to like kind of like burst it yeah like tap it otherwise the barrel gets too hot uh or the barrel gets too hot or it just dumps it yeah but i guarantee like if like it's easy to say in the moment if we came across a grizzly bear it would have been all you're empty in the clip just spraying that shit everywhere yeah you know what i would have done i would have thrown it into its mouth and then pulled out my jaws 22 yeah that's smart jaws style yeah mythbusters did a thing and said that that wouldn't have worked fuck mythbusters no come on mythbusters needs that was a great one great show i prefer my myths mythbusters like when i thought grizzly bears only ate blueberries myths are important though myths are important to the building of of societies i think mythbusters was like peak life in america society busters yeah once they busted all the myths like we we like fell apart we need our myths i would always go from mythbusters to nutbusters oh yeah which was just porn yeah crank just get a quick crank in after your myths have been busted i'll go right right from mythbusters into not buster my favorite myth just got busted now i'm gonna have to jerk off to feel better i just saw a bald guy with a mustache do an experiment and i'm rock hard i mean that was peak like you you were like i was a kid you throw on mythbusters that episode maybe you've seen that episode then you throw on deadliest warrior on spike yeah yeah yeah that's yeah yeah yeah that did that show did makes being a scientist and engineers seem cool oh and there's nothing that does that anymore no nothing scientists and engineers look like losers now because of the fucking ai development when you say you're done with that you throw on a little river monsters yeah that looks cool i mean they had everything or a cheerleading competition on espn2 exactly sure they got nothing any like i i turn on the tv now and i don't even know what to watch same my tv my tv went alphabetized instead of numerical recently and i don't know how to change it back to the old way of doing it i don't know how to change it back to the old way of doing it back it's been fucking devastating that's pretty that's pretty brutal it was dark as hell i mean are you on k are you still ripping cable i rip it all but of course i keep cable like if you're watching like it say we obviously we got ball coming up soon yeah which i i mean i need it i need it more than ever i don't think i've ever needed it this mad you're starting to feel that the the balls come oh it's been i've been itching for a minute this sunday is uh there there'll be football on this sunday and then every sunday until february 19th yeah but it's almost like it's like if you like i want football back so bad but if you're really sitting down and you're watching those pre-season games you're a fucking lunatic yeah that's you're sick you're you're addicted to football yeah what's baseball level autism yeah it's trickling into other guys that aren't even on the team play in the fourth quarter of that yeah see if you i want to see who the best guy in the 90s yeah watching drake throw one ball aj brown won't even be there reading on the sideline you saw aj brown with that drop now there's like a back shoulder throw you drake may hit him in the hand he fucking dropped it watching watching the owners talk about how much budget space they have i wonder if bohemian grove was talking about the telluride bush probably they probably want to get in as partners this one's brought to you by tick pick ever actually read a ticket receipt service fee processing fee convenience fee convenient for who that's an extra 30 bucks a ticket tick pick doesn't do that never had never will no fees means the exact same seat same section same row costs less on tick pick fans trust tick pick for all their live events check the reviews yourself so why overpay for the exact same seat download the tick pick app and never pay another service fee again and for new tick pick customers take 20 off your first order with promo code pmt20 in the tick pick app terms apply that's pmt20 at checkout for you for twenty dollars off your first order good will be bohemian bush it's actually a great name bohemian bush there's some commercial like that they talk about a girl's trip to telluride always makes me think you brothers you guys ever gonna get out to telluride uh we were gonna go there me me and bo and matt were gonna go there instead of uh wyoming is that still on the table what you guys going on another trip this year no not this summer definitely not but we're going in the winter we already have one really where are you gonna go the bahamas oh bone fishing oh yeah so hard yeah cool but it's gonna be like that we we've we've weighed the options like it's already hard like it's fishing's hard regardless especially fly fishing like it's not easy um i would much rather get skunked and then be in the bahamas 100 yeah spot on i'd much rather not catch anything and be in the bahamas than not catch anything and be yeah surrounded by mosquitoes in the woods seems like they're not biting today boys let's go back to the ocean exactly luckily we have massages in half an hour so yeah bo and and matt driving into the ocean club and aston martin like fucking daniel craig and the james bond yeah it's gonna be sick and also bo's uh dad has done this trip he does it like every year with his like best friend bo has a dad yeah i thought he just like appeared no he's a great that's like when you saw the video of clavicular's dad did you see that no i didn't i didn't clavicular with his dad and i know his dad like hates him his dad was like such you could tell he was like such a good dad he was like so happy oh shit i did see this yeah when he's a kid as clavicular as a kid yeah he graduated and his dad was like come on like he's like rubbing him and fucking him it was so fucking don't you always wonder with that like it's very easy for the dad to appear to be a great dad you don't end up with clavicular and you're great you're you're not just a great fucking dad that's not necessarily true i think that so much can happen i think parents can get everything right and kids can still turn out shitty but this isn't like your kid you know maybe he drinks too much this is your kid is smashing his face with a hammer every night to try to rework the structure of his jaw has such a reductive view of women that can't be like yeah your parents did a phenomenon like like maybe they did a good they did something wrong at the same time time he's like 18. yeah but i think you could also right you're right i don't know i think i think he just like found hype yeah and clout and was like i'm gonna follow that yeah but he knows a lot of the terms he's i've heard him say hypertrophy too much for it to just be him riding a trend he doesn't seem like he's like dumb like it seems like he's very well uh like he understands what he's talking about yeah i think he struck a nerve and then continued to hit that nerve yeah i mean he's got to be making millions of dollars so i guess it's not the worst yeah it broke my heart seeing him but i thought that he had just spawned same way bo did yeah right so are you gonna are you so you're gonna be on a boat down there no no that's waiting as well like you're just walking you're gonna be you're gonna be walking the flats of the bahamas you can do it from a boat though oh yeah it's way easier significantly more expensive i'm on just got a hotel down the bahamas the bahaman that's actually what they're no that's pretty sick that would be a good name i don't know if anyone's gotten that across their desk with foreplay one of the coolest trips we ever did was down there we went to uh this place called the abaco club with good good and it was the most beautiful place did you have to take like uh like another flight once you landed um like how did we do it no we flew right into uh we flew right into maybe it was nassau but maybe it was also some other small slightly smaller place i don't know the the place that we're gonna go i think we gotta we gotta take like a tiny plane once we land like a six person plane yeah puddle jumper yeah that might be too much for for your boy yeah i don't know i don't know if i got that in me you've done it i have yeah and i don't like it i've been on multiple places where you have to like go go like multiple stops on the way somewhere it's fucking terrible how long are those flights something very disconcerting about knowing there's only one pilot flying the plane on a plane that like it's just like if dude if you have a fucking seizure if that guy's we're all you're looking around you're like does anyone play video games here does anyone do flight simulation that's the next step we were to be my me and my buddies were talking about it last night like the the what comes after this phase of video games it can only be just super realistic simulators yeah right just driving around on the tractor all night guys i'm feeling a little cooped up i'm gonna go out and mow you guys want to meet on the tractor in 15 minutes yeah i'm gonna go mow the yard yeah broza would do the train conduct he would run like bro he would do the subway like yeah he'd just be in new york i'm going up to queensborough yeah i'm going to myrtle myrtle wyckoff that's definitely the next step i played so much counter-strike this weekend and it's just i've just gotten used to it i've just gotten used to it to a point where i just i don't know how much more i can give you know i've given everything i have the game's not asking any more of you it's just like bro i i don't know and would i be lying i would be lying if i said this didn't have this wasn't a big factor in the weed break i gotta i gotta get back to just clear-headed gaming gaming wow that's sad it's sad but it's also good you're saying that your gaming was not you didn't do well i thought you were too high i can't i can't know i can't tell if it's the weed has slowed me down so much that i'm so bad at games now or if i've just gotten older and i'm just not good at games anymore i see all i know is i was playing black ops 2 this weekend and it was like i had never left i mean i was probably the best player ever um when you're off the weed what do you mean what is this once you quit weed or is this even before that you were still sick at it no no this is before okay i was still sick at it you just counter-strike bro i i'm so like so weed is specifically causing issues for you in counter well it's causing issues in a lot of different places game specific games i think is where i'm noticing the cognitive decline but you said it's you sound like joe biden the cognitive decline you said it helped you in black ops though no it doesn't help with anything it doesn't help let's hurt you when i play call of duty doesn't hurt because i'm already like i know how to play call of duty i think your incredible run in black ops proves that weed is not the problem i don't know what the problem is i think it's that you're not smoking enough i don't think it i think it's just i'm not russian i'm not good at counter-strike you play against these guys they're all fucking russian they've all been playing it since they were three years old yeah and they're all so fucking good it's like if you tried francis it was like if you tried as hard as you tried to be good at lacrosse as a child and then you you were the worst player ever i mean i think that's true for people that people experience that but with like a video game like it shouldn't be like that i don't why not i mean if you if you like in video games to sports and some people are going to be inherently talented and have the capacity for we're talking about like i i understand that others don't but this is not excellence we're talking about like i'm in the worst lobbies that you can be in and i'm the worst player i don't believe you i think you're being a little dramatic i don't think you're bad i'm not i'm i swear if i picked up a controller tomorrow you would kill me no i don't think i in this game i genuinely think it would be pretty even i think we could probably set that up we couldn't we have no way of doing it there's no way it's not a controller game that's why it's a pc it's mouse and keyboard it's my first time playing a game on mouse and keyboard you're right we can't find another person that has a computer no in new york well maybe that's why you suck because you just suck at the the like mechanism of the game i do well that's it so don't be so hard on yourself maybe maybe a little self-love maybe a little ayahuasca you have to do like your 10 placement mat you have to do 10 placement matches to get your you have to win 10 matches to get your rank for the new season which just began i got my 10 placement i finished them on sat on friday night i literally almost cried when they gave me my rank it was like it was like what what did i just do i would have been better off just not playing only college you got into was the community college type of like like like it was like the only college you got into was like you and you got denied from one of them from community college bro what um i saw this clip of mook getting ranked yeah yeah this was worse than that gold three but what was bad about that why is that bad why he was so disappointed he went gold gold three gold three is really bad it's bad really bad because it looked like he had achieved something because he did it he it's it's the same for every game like that game call of duty they just started a new season so you have to do your placement matches again oh he completed his and you get put in a rank based on those matches i see mook prior to that was diamond three which is pretty good but also the branked system in call of duty has been broken which mook's always been gold three but this specific season he was like uh what people would consider a good rank like a a top what are you i don't play call of duty anymore so i don't know what would you be if i can't it's hard for me to say but like if mook is diamond three i'm iridescent i'm top of the game i'm the best ever i see okay which mook's gonna be so mad hearing that he's he's you're better than he is would he admit that no he wouldn't no is jerry as good as you are he's give the ranking you jerry and mook who's the best who's the worst if i'm playing consistently it's me if i'm not playing consistently it's jerry so mook's the worst yeah that's so sad he's really thrown everything in behind this well he's not i mean it doesn't matter if he's good or not well that's kind of why uh phenom's probably worse than mook let's put it this way harry you say it doesn't matter but i have had a litany of sports coaches throughout my life and knowing that one of them had a an illustrious career himself exactly gave me it made it easier for me to buy into what that's why we're not the coaches because they don't respect our opinions based on the of the game but your general managers or whatever we know enough like we all know how the game works and i would say like our average of the game is probably above 99 of the average player because we've the amount of call of duty that we've consumed this year alone is ridiculous amount of call of duty i've consumed is ridiculous exactly my whole feed is bush clips yeah i'm like i don't even think i follow the account yeah i definitely do no all good all good i don't care no i do i do i follow it and i find it very funny like that clip of mook going gold it's unbelievable i'm so because dude leading up to that i had kept on fucking with him and being like you're not like bro like if you're diamond three i'm the best i'm top 250 in the game yeah and he kept on being like no man like you're like we were joking around about it and then he got his placement back and he was gold three it was very funny yeah but if mook knew what i was in counter-strike like he would never let me hear the end of it right like like he's gold three in counter-strike i would be considered like like bronze one which is lower intro they call that like you like it's like i'm the rank of someone who's just picked up the game for the first time right sad bro sorry to hear that just give that shit up bro i know i'm going to um ron i was listening to um jerry did uh a podcast with optic the yeah yeah hitch yeah yeah yeah he was talking about you on it who hitch what did he say he was just saying he's like a huge battle rap fan he said listen to like he said he's been he listened to your first ever battle rap like live really when it was happening that's fucking one where you were like in that random like shop yeah yeah yeah that's fucking crazy the guy didn't have three he didn't have three verses right yeah yeah he started freestyling at the end illegal yeah yeah that's a bad that's an all-time one yeah that's a classic he's the he's the man he's always been super supportive whenever he would reach out yeah yeah he's that podcast is really good i just whenever i watch it and i just see how they just are like sitting across from like yeah a desk from each other i just wouldn't know where to look no no i would have no i was thinking exactly yeah look just making direct eye contact for like an hour it's not like a very broad desk like they're both in the same camera shot so it's like where do you just stay you just square up with someone for a fucking yeah i mean it's essentially like going on like a date yeah like that's it's that intimate yeah that's the only thing that i have uh i would worry about that on like anything to be like if i had to do like rogan at any point like i i'd be looking at the fucking i'd be worried about it brother no i'm not i'm not i'm not sweating it too much but i just think i'm just joking no i think about that all the time especially uh the most awkward is when someone has to sing it's like where do you look when you have to sing oh like on rogan no no not on rogan in like real life what the fuck you mean you have to sing to sing you've you've probably never been around someone that has to sing about you're like having someone sing something i get what roan's saying you're like i'm not gonna sing i'm not gonna sing i'm not gonna sing i'm not gonna sing when is that ever a situation that any of us are karaoke performances karaoke you're i heard you're a good singer sing this song for me there's been i've had you put in that a lot i have i have yeah like people are like to give us a bar no it's the other way around where i'm like someone's gonna sing i'm like bro i won't look at you but like can you sing that oh you put people in that position i've been in situations where someone else has to perform and to calm them down i tell them i'm not gonna look them in the eye harry i see what you mean i see what all this is is that one person is singing and the other person is watching and it's awkward yeah it's because like imagine looking into someone's eyes the whole point i get it now i get it now it's like an usher concert if you look into their eyes who's ever sang on rogan i'm sure fucking you know that one dude did for sure oh yeah you know you know rich man north yeah of course oh that guy i thought you were gonna say kanye the singer on rogan yeah fair enough yeah that was so they had him do in shows at the mothership i remember what a weird time that was yeah imagine buying tickets to a comedy show and then there's just a guy singing about how like the government's fucking us what the fuck's happening right now i thought this was supposed to be like the comedy capital of the world do you think anything uh i know stand-ups in a weird place right now obviously still thriving but just in a different place do you think any of that had to do with the fact that like uh language was so like uh strictly policed for a while and then like some comics and some places you went you could start hearing things words and ideas that you hadn't been hearing and then so it was like refreshing for people to go out and be like i'm hearing slurs again yeah definitely and then like after a while like everybody started using that as their like way to get people in and so it was like diluted and that's less exciting for people because they could just turn on like any podcast and hear that or like any yeah i mean i think the i mean the shane always jokes about it but like the pendulum swung like too far back came back swinging and then it's just now you got everyone on stage just saying retard and slurs and that bohemian grove is faggy and stuff yeah yeah of course but what do you think francis yeah i agree with all of that i i do like i i mean i you know i think people celebrated it too much and there there's like a i don't know a righteousness in in exercising your first amendment whatever if if you feel that you're oppressed but then when the police go back inside and stop policing and you continue to just beat that drum it starts to get a little indulgent right when you're not being policed and you're like look what i'm doing it's like dude no one's stopping you then it's then it's just like mean i just think everything at a certain point gets to a point where it's no longer cool like you like everything is going to go through like ups and downs like if for two years straight if you said retard on stage it was like a round of applause yeah and now it's everyone says it so it's like it's not funny anymore like it's still funny don't get me wrong it's still hilarious but it's not like thinking of it's it can't no longer be like the punch line to a joke dude speaking of first amendment i i uh i got hit with because i love the fucking first yeah i'm insane about it how much i fucking love it i'm a 19th man personally really yeah and that's the the right for women to shoot women to shoot guns for women to bear arms yeah the right for women to bear arms children um to carry bear mace we won't give them guns can of mace uh i had a backup nanny the other week and she got home one day fucking frazzled she's like she was texting my wife she's like what there's like i'll tell you like something just happened i'll tell you when i get home and my wife's like what the fuck are you talking about russia's home gets uh the the news that they were just out in brooklyn bridge park and that there's a asian lady going around filming kids coming up to the stroller and filming behind her back like leaning over and like secretly filming damn trying to figure out like is that she is like has a mask long sleeves on and she's filming people and then later on that week i saw a viral tiktok of the same lady of some guy being like yo don't film people's kids like that's weird and it was the same time in the same place the nanny was shook like she could tell it was weird this lady was going up to another stroller and just filming dead in the face of these babies like immediately my wife heard that like rushed down trying to find her and on the tiktok there are all these reports she's at like cadman plaza she's at all these places she's everywhere yeah filming kids all over the place and my alarm went up because i'm like if something feels uncomfortable with kids you have to follow that instinct but at the same time i love the first amendment and she is just exercising her first amendment right to film stuff in public but is that i don't know i i feel like once you start if you are if you're blatantly hiding it then is that uh against the law no no you're allowed to film you're allowed to film people in public and you're allowed to film kids there are there are definitely limits on that what what are they i can't like film upskirt videos under an escalator trust me but like no like i'm not even saying that to be like to like like is that actually like not allowed like i know it's not allowed that violates some kind of like uh you know lewd and lascivious behavior yeah thing i would think i don't see how it would be legal to go like i i well i guess i don't see how it would be illegal either but i don't know how that would be allowed to go around filming when you're in public there's no expectation of privacy but like i get that but i don't know how that would be allowed to go around filming when you're in public but i get it i guess it's the same as like the meta glasses like no they stressed as they were stress testing me they were stress testing my first event my love for the first amendment in real time but i don't know like at what point is that like fuck the first amendment no it was fuck the first amendment at that time but now it's back to the first amendment no no like if if you just have to start putting masks if they beat the shit out of that the asian lady my nanny or my wife i would have had to have like been on their side dude there are so many asian women filming babies in austin texas right now oh yeah that was all they in covid they all went there really yeah they were like we can't do this and you know they're catching on to us towns it's the only place where we can safely film so did what were the people on tiktok saying they're like don't film people's kids but then where's anyone were you in the comments like well technically hey my kids were yeah my kids were filmed hand up but you gotta there's nothing we can do about this guys okay yeah sorry you're taking up with the founding fathers sorry you don't want your kids on camera because they're so ugly and stupid this is a yeah it might be a precursor to human trafficking but like thomas jefferson warned us about this yeah like so like what do you think is the the what's the purpose of the filming i mean everybody's like everybody's like trafficking trafficking trafficking but i don't know how you traffic i don't know if you traffic how you traffic the pictures i don't know i don't know i mean if they if that's a human trafficking thing and it's based off of one asian like they must have surveillance around all of brooklyn the asians i don't understand how it could be one lady like if you're if it's human trafficking it's a whole operation if it's human trafficking not always they said that she was on one person can traffic another person that's kidnapping if i said which is isn't that also kind of trafficking if you take someone across state lines isn't it trafficking i wonder if it's a great question what is trafficking it's state lines it's definitely state lines if i learned anything from the diddy trial it's state lines but i thought it was like if you're if you're sending someone somewhere like they're a fucking piece of luggage i think we think it's just like selling someone into an like sex slavery yeah i don't think it has to be all of that yeah it's probably true i need to find this fucking but like if you're like like okay so say i'm a human trafficker right in this scenario of course say i can hear the conversation right now and i'm just so aware of how little we know yeah yeah and i love it no okay who cares who gives a fuck um i say i'm a human trafficker uh-huh and it's just me i'm the only guy there's no i got no one helping me out i'm doing this all myself yeah i'm going say i go to i go to central park and i start you don't work well with other traffickers no no i'm hard to work with you don't share the yeah yeah we don't get it we don't see eye to eye um different morals you've tried yeah but you know it just always ends up being that like someone you know yeah we're just we're just not getting along so i take you don't like people micromanaging yeah exactly exactly right okay i get it rushing me i don't say yeah telling me i gotta act on this when i'm i'm not ready yet you're a slow burn yeah exactly i like slow and low i like to be careful you know i don't want to take any risks you have different tastes and targets so i'm out in central park i got my metaglasses on i'm flashing pics of all the kids children everything i can get right what happens next so now i go home i've got my glasses on i've got my glasses on i've got all these photos of all these kids and i'm looking at them what are the odds i'm ever going to see one like what are the odds that asian lady's ever going to see one of those kids again why does she need to what are you talking because she's human trafficking so like what's the next like how does the next step oh she's probably i guess in theory she would be selling the photos to creeps online maybe just google kids in stroller they all look the same that's like saying i'd hate to make this but that's like saying just watch porn yeah no i get it's a fucked up conversation to have and it's in some sense my guess is that some human trafficking pedophiles like the reality genre yeah probably a little fuck this asian woman is like the bong su kim of or whatever that korean you know parasite director but that's the thing is photographs yeah i'm imagining like the you know what i mean the mom and prisoners who's like running the whole thing yeah you think that's the asian lady is no that's why i'm saying like i don't see i think the asian lady is just a weird lady who's taking photos yeah i agree i don't i don't i don't i i agree with you that extrapolating from what she's doing to human trafficking is a tenuous connection i don't i just don't i genuinely don't know how that could lead to human trafficking i think that people are very conscious in at all of having photos of their children and their children and their children and their children on the internet especially if they didn't take them oh yeah no i do i agree she's fucking weird yeah but like that's just you know that's just it leads to a um a visibility that like they don't want so what's the next what's the next course of action here what are we going to do it's just asian hate across the board asian hate yeah that's a good answer to a lot of things yeah just just yeah like paste that uh one characteristic of that one woman on the entire race and like take it off it's like make it endemic to their uh do you think she was even a woman wow yeah i think it was a man dressed up as a woman it could have been like one of those hyper realistic masks that you know the deep state puts on people yeah i just feel like i don't know that's so weird that's so bizarre yo-yo pa i i feel like someone taking photos like behind their back of kids it's like you're like what are you doing i need to get a video i need to show you this other guy finding it i gotta see this because i'm having a hard time because this woman is literally over a stroller and it's like nobody else is around but also she's like frail like any any garden variety nanny is whipping her ass like do you think she's just like in you think there's a reality where she's just like a super old lady who's just like loves kids maybe yeah you get to that point remember when they let bush senior goose young women in the butt and that oh people found out and they're like come on he's got 95 i think asian women get to a point where it's like come on let her take photos or like you oh i see tiktoks all the time we know it's wrong but you know she's from a different era like i brought my people are like i brought my blonde hair blue-eyed baby to japan and they love them you know what i mean maybe something like that like they're fawning over it yeah she just loves children in brooklyn yeah she's just going on a the u.s going on a tour um but there's also a reality where like this is the conversation she wants us to be having really she's actually like it's this is straight out of like taken like she's she's keeping marco from trapoyo she's talking to fucking putin through an earpiece i have a very particular set of skills skills that make me very dangerous to people like you to babies yeah skills that make me very dangerous to people like you yeah terrified babies i don't know why my wife's being stingy with this i was like can you send the video the woman who was filming our kids and she was like she wasn't filming our kids in the video it's like we're just fucking why are you hitting me with the semantic on the just you know what video i'm talking about just fucking just send me the fucking video i'm trying to make a point to the boys i'm trying to make a point to the fellas here we go here we go how are the boys oh that's so this is the other oh this is from this is the one our nanny took oh so this is a full operation this is this is a the this isn't even the viral one and the bald guy in the background is the guy who eventually makes the video huh so she just walks right up to a stroller and takes a photo dunks her head into the fucking stroller i'm back on i think she's just weird to be honest i think it's a weird old lady who just likes children yeah hopefully a non-perverted way hopefully a wholesome way probably thinks they're cute yeah yeah and probably just doesn't really understand like social skills so thinks that she thinks it's like she can just take photos of people's children yeah you think that flies in china yeah okay it could just be a cultural difference yeah i mean i think it is i yeah that's where i'm leaning that's why that's where i've always been that's why i'm always first amendment yeah now you're right i've been first way to bring that back around i like it yeah i'm giving her the benefit of the doubt for now but if i see her taking photos again in brooklyn is it just taking photos or like is she good to take photos or does she have to like take a fucking just does she have to take someone has to just like remove the camera from her phone no no no leave the baby alone lady hey hey oh no no no no somebody's gonna call the police all right hey don't recall people's kids bro it's the same lady in the same it's the same lady that's weird that's weird that you got both angles of it yeah that's kind of crazy that's pretty crazy that is bro because it oh uh need the baby alone hey hey don't film people the baby don't want to talk to you people are sensitive about their kids bro no one wants their kids snatched no definitely not if i had look i mean if i had a kid and then someone came up and took a photo of it i'll be like that's a human trafficker yeah get that person the fuck away from the kids and they're doing it to all the kids all right all right yeah okay cool nice solid episode we will be back on thursday with a non-banked normal episode as well so we will see you guys then goodbye