Feeling (Dis)Connected: Fresh Finds Podcast Season 4 Episode 10 W/ Hey, ILY!

Hello and welcome back to season four of the Fresh Finds podcast, the show about discovering new music with good people. I'm Ryan and this month I'm joined by Caleb of the band Hey, I Love You. How are you doing, dude? Hi, I am fantastic. I woke up like half an hour ago, um, so I'm still waking up, I got up and I was like, well, I gotta record this podcast, um, so this is exactly how I look when I wake up. Hashtag, I woke up like this. I woke up like this. How are you doing, Ryan? How's your day been so far? I'm good. You know, I'm in a very similar boat. I got a little bit of coffee to energize me. We're feeling a little bit better now that we got a little bit of a nice caffeine buzz going. Fuck yeah. So certainly, is that a Castlevania? No, this is, uh, this is goalkeeper. They're a pop pop band from, uh, Pennsylvania. That's sick. It looked like, I love goalkeeper by the way, but it looked like the Castlevania logo. And I was like, that's crazy, that would be pretty red too, honestly, fuck yeah. Do you want to, uh, take a couple of minutes to kind of introduce yourself and, uh, talk about the band a little bit of history, that kind of thing? Hell yeah, so I am Caleb, I am one of five members of the band, Hey, I love you. We started as like a solo project of mine in 2021, I think it's when anything, Hey, I love you came out. Maybe it's weird because I started working on it in 2020, but I think it was 2021. Looking it up, I saw February 2021 for the first album release or the first single release. I can't remember if it was a, I think it was a single first. I think so. Yeah, I don't know. Um, it's been a minute since then. It's been a while. Yeah. Um, and so we were rocking as just like a solo project of mine, just like a bedroom project for a little bit. And then eventually I was actually, it's crazy because like, I wasn't planning on really doing like any life stuff with this band whatsoever, um, but where I'm from in Billings every year. There's like a festival, a local festival called dry fest that like you really want to be a part of if you're like a Montana musician, like people come, people come from like different states to this festival, which is crazy. I feel like I've heard about it once before, like it's not something that like, it's talked about all the time, but like the name sounds familiar. Right. I talk about it all the time every year because it's just like, it's always such a great, uh, yeah, it's, it's always just a great time every single year. And the organizers texted me and they're like, Hey, um, Hey, I love you submitted, right? And I was like, no, but that probably means that we should, um, so I got a live end together. And I got my best friends trevon on guitar, uh, Steven on bass sky on keys and Connor on drums. And yeah, we've been rocking and rolling ever since we put out a new song like a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks ago, um, we're putting out another song October 8th. I don't know when this podcast comes out, but it might already be the song might already be out. Um, I'm not really sure when this is going to come out, actually, because I'm, I'm trying to do a new thing, uh, I'm, I'm testing it out for the, the last part of this year where I, uh, do two episodes every other month and then one episode every other month. And so, and so this is my first time doing two episodes in a month, like scheduled out. So I don't know exactly what that timeline is going to look like, but it should be about the middle of the month. Okay. So yeah, and then yeah, we're coming out with our sophomore album on October 25th. Uh, we're really excited about it. We, uh, we've been working on it basically ever since our first record dropped, uh, in 2022. Um, so I know, like, it's crazy because Lonely Ghosts, you know, they're like, guys, you guys needed like slow down a little bit because we just, we like to just write music that, like, basically we're just writing music constantly. And so like, we wanted to drop something as soon as we could after LP one and then Lonely Ghosts are like, you have to just keep the momentum going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I feel like we're just constantly like writing like Connor and I would hang out and then we would just be like do it like totally unrelated music. We just be hanging out and then we just be like, let's write some music. I definitely know what's up with that though, because like, you know, even if it's not for a specific project, you get this idea and you're just like, well, I'm just going to see it through until I can't figure out what else to do with it, you know, just just for the hell of it. But I love the such an eclectic project too that you can kind of find ways that any of that stuff can probably fit into it somehow. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. I'm glad that Lonely Ghost told us to wait because we, so we had like an entire record's worth of music written and like a little recorded and then we were like, yeah, no. And so we just grabbed it all and then we basically wrote an entire new record and that's the way it's coming out. And we think it's a lot better. We think it's a lot more put together. And we feel like it's what our debut should have been. Like we feel like this is the pinnacle of, hey, I love you. Like this, this feels like what the band should be. And we really put everything that we are into it. So we're really proud of it. We're really excited to show the world and I'm really excited to be here right now. Thank you so much for having me on right now. Of course. No, I'm so glad that this was able to work out. Do you have any plans for any of the stuff that you wrote that was like originally going to be the second album like are you thinking like maybe dropping some singles at some point, maybe doing like an EP of like the best of that collection or anything? Or did you pretty much just completely scrap it? I hadn't thought of that, but that would be really interesting. So some of the songs from like the first record that's now like, I guess it could be considered lost media or something. I don't know. But some parts like turned into like different like we would take like this song is really bad. But this idea, the specific idea in the song is really cool. We should keep that. And so we would take that chunk out of that song and put it into a different song that made it onto LP too. No, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. And so like, yeah. Um, it's a lot of like, there's a lot of like shards, I think that like made it. So I don't know. I'd be really interested to do I think, but also like, I don't know. Like I said, we're like constantly writing new garbage. Yeah. Sometimes you don't always want to keep revisiting the past. You just want to keep playing forward. Yeah. I definitely get that for sure. But that's actually interesting too because we actually, there's two songs on the record that predate. Hey, I love you. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Um, so Sky and Carter and I were in a band called Antique Dreams in twenty such a good band name. Holy shit. Thank you. We didn't, we didn't do anything. We recorded like a four song EP and one of the songs was called Past the Bytes Morphea Please. And it was like this really fast like energetic punk song. I think I was ripping off say anything when I wrote it. Okay. Um, yeah. And then I was like, when we were writing this record, I was like, that song is so fucking, it's like very emotional. I feel like the lyrics are and it's like something really important to me and something I've struggled with for a really long time. And I was like, you know, this like really fast like punk energy. And this isn't really doing, I don't know that I show the logo, I'm trying not to show the logo. Um, we're going to really do a song. No, we're not. We're not. Um, it isn't really doing the song any favors. So we like slow it down and we tried to make it sound like like the microphones type like folk here. And then there's also a song on the album. I'm not going to, oh, actually, the track this is already out. It's the third song. It's called is worried. I was going to say I think it's on band camp, right? It is on band camp. Yeah, it is on band camp. Um, and so the third song, I think it is from 2019 and that was so that was like an old old song. But of course, we like took it and like made it, uh, you know, we made it into like a, hey, I love you song. Because it was like, it's kind of like an effort to like email a song. And actually, it's crazy. The original version of is worried. You can like find on SoundCloud. I don't know if anyone's been able to find it yet, but it's, it's up there on SoundCloud right now. And it's really bad. Yeah. That was one that stood out to me a lot. I, on my first couple of listens for sure. Oh, sick. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, I really like that one. That one's really awesome. Yeah, that all these songs were really psyched about. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. So how would you like describe this album in like the grander scheme of the hell of you catalog? Because like to me, listening to it, I listened to the first EP. I can't remember the name of what that was called, uh, p s s u s s p. It's like, uh, nothing name, it's like, it's like totally nothing. So like preparing for this, I listened to, uh, psychokinetic love songs and then I listened to the new album. And to me, this feels like you guys almost took the hell of you formula and went prog with it. I don't know if that makes sense, but like, like, especially in terms of like song structures and stuff like that, it feels like it's a lot more like free flowing and progressive, like a lot more like, um, you know, there, there's a lot more twists and turns as opposed to like kind of being more straightforward, like the first album was hell. Yeah. Well, I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, I think I would describe this record. I don't know. I think we were done fucking around. I think like in a sense, like obviously no matter what we do, we're going to have fun with it. And that's like our main goal is just to have fun and to make music that we think is fun and cool to listen to fun and cool and not cringe. And so, yeah, like, we were just like, we just really wanted to make something that we were really proud of because we were proud of the debut record, which was psychokinetic love songs. But I think like after like a year of playing those songs, we were like kind of bored with them and felt like, felt like we could write something that we enjoy a lot more and that is just like, I don't know, a lot better. Um, and so I think, um, I don't know if that's true or not, but I think it's a lot more Even though our main goal was to really, really take our time and make something that we would be proud of, two, three, four years from now, and that we would still enjoy playing. Yeah. I think the reason why it came out so proggy is because we just wanted to make everything that we liked to listen to. We all have very eclectic tastes and music, and so we were trying to put all of that into it, I think, and that's just what came out. Okay. Yeah, and I think also another reason why it's proggy is because this is the most collaborative "Hey I Love You" has ever been. Most of the songs were written with all five of us in the room, and they're shooting out brainstorming ideas. Some songs were written with maybe Sky and Trevin couldn't make a practice, and so it would just be Steve and Connor and I, or maybe I know there was one song that was written by Connor and I in like 10 minutes, when we were just like, we were just like screwing around. I think there was a song on there that was written by Trevin, Steven and I, but for the most part, like it was all five of us in the room figuring out these songs together. And so I think that's what led to it being maybe like our proggy ist yet. I don't know. I think it's crazy because I think also like it's also our heaviest. I think. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of us were, I got really into like the 8-5-6 YouTube channel. Like in the last two years, like I don't know why, but for some reason, like whenever I was bored, I would just put on like hardcore sets and just like wash them and be like, that's so sick. I wish that would happen. Yeah. I hate "I Love You" shows. And so, and Steven has always really loved like post-hardcore. Like I think Steven is like the, like I love a lot of post-hardcore too, but it's not as "Oh shit, I actually saw, I actually showed the logo." Not as much as Steven. He's always been the resident post-hardcore guy. And so I think we really tried to put that into this record as well. That's why we called the record "Hey, I Love You" is because we were like, this record is like really heavy and like really angry. So let's, let's call it that. I also, I also really like the word play on that too. I think it's, I think it's really, really clever because it's like, it almost sounds like it's like a self-titled thing, but it's not quite. Right, yeah, and we were going to, I think we were like, the plan for a few months was to name itself titled, but I don't know, I just don't, I don't know. Just to me, like, if you're gonna name a record self titled, I feel like it should be either your first or your last, you know? Maybe. I don't know. Or maybe if you really feel like it like really, really, really is your, like if your album is like, this is peak, then like, that's the self-titled, you know? Yeah. I don't feel like this record is any of those things. Maybe it is. Maybe we're just going to get really bad after this and this is peak, I love you. But I, I hope not. And then I think we're going to call it, hey, I love you too. Like there's going to be the number two after, hey, I, why? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Which I thought would have been cute too, but I think we settled on, hey, I love you just because I feel like that really fits the, the themes of the record and, you know, just the angryness and the, but it's also fun. It's also like, we're not, it's obviously like, we're not taking it too seriously, which is never, we always want to have fun with this band. We're not really that serious, like we're all just having a good time, you know, sometimes we have to lock in and get real businessy about it, but for the most part, we're just having a good time. Well, that was kind of like when I was talking with a super destroyer about like, kind of the entire lonely ghost catalog. That was one of the things that he mentioned was that like a lot of artists on the lonely ghost label try to keep everything fun, even even if it's like heavy, it's like you try to keep like a certain like, dance ability, a certain like, accessibility to it. Just because like, he described it as being like, weird pop, basically, and I like that a lot because it's like, it makes a lot of sense because so many of the artists on that label are extremely approachable, but a lot of them have influences from these more like heavy places, like, you know, post hardcore, new metal, you know, whatever, which I think is really interesting. Yeah, it is. I mean, like all of my favorite bands are like really emotional, but still like right, like really upbeat music, like Johnny Forner or Jeff Rosenstock, Audemonna Gucci, Los Camposinos. Like, you know, they all write like really, yeah, like really emotional, really introspective lyrics, but they, you know, their music is just like fun and well, I don't know, the most reason Los Camposinos record was kind of kind of a downer. It's great. It's great, but it is like, it is like really sad, but I love it a lot. But for the most part, like, it's like just like really fun and like stuff that you can watch too. And I think that the, the energy behind it makes it a lot more cathartic for me personally. And so that's why that's why like a lot of my music tends to be faster. I think at some point, we're going to try and write like an EP or record that's like slow. Okay. Like all the way through it, like there's a couple slow songs like, I think the 10th track had like a zombie is like, I remember when we were writing it, Trevin, he said that like, it was like, this song has to be like patients testing Lee slow. But for the most part, it's like a really fast in your face, explosive record, or at least we try to make it that way. Yeah. So I think at some point, we're going to try and write something that's like slower and more emotional. I think it's going to be very hard for us because I don't know, I'm just, we're all a lot more comfortable like writing music that people wanted, like practice karate too and stuff. So yeah, I just, I just love fast music and I love, I love pop music too. Like, that's the thing about me, like what really makes me like a song is just like anything that I could like, like hook onto, like really easily, whether that be like a catchy drum part or a catchy synth part, it doesn't always have to be like a vocal melody, it could be a guitar riff. Just some sort of hook that you're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You can kind of snag onto a little bit. Exactly. Yeah, and I think that like, I have a very like melodies are just like, I just love a really good melody, you know. And so I'm constantly trying to think of like catchy melodies in my head. Like I think that's like where a lot of haloies songs stem from is because I'll get like a melody in my head and I'll throw it down on my voice recordings and then I'll try and make a song around that. Which I personally think that like that style of songwriting is usually going to get like the best results at least in my experience because like personally when I'm writing music, I always will, you know, be fucking around on the guitar, come up with like a riff or something like that. But I feel like a lot of the times songs started out as like a riff kind of are very, are very riff centric. They're not necessarily super catchy type of songs. Whereas like a lot of the time, personally, this happens to me a lot on road trips. You're driving for like five plus hours. Your brain just has time to wander and think about random shit that you don't normally have time to do in the hustle and bustle of daily life, right? And so you like start to think differently and you come up with like different melodies and different like, you know, ideas for stuff personally. And I feel like that's where a lot of like really, really catchy songs come from is when you start out with the melody or the vocal line first and like kind of right top down. Which again is very interesting for like more like heavy kind of music because heavy kind of music people think about the riff and like all that, which is great. But at the same time, like, I feel like starting a song and basing it around a riff often times you just get a riff song. You don't get like a catchy song in that way. Right. Yeah. Which I mean, like, riffs can be catchy too. But it's like, it's kind of interesting because if you, if you start, I feel like you're a song with like, your catchiest moment. Like if that's like the first thing of your song, then like, it can be kind of like, I know, like, I don't know. Like this song is cool, but like the catchiest part in the part that I really love to onto is over now. And so that's also something that we try to do a lot on this album. And I think in Hey Love in general is that we try and make sure there's like, constantly a hook going, whether it be like in the foreground or in the background too, like maybe there's like a part where I'm singing and then like, sky's playing like a catchy melody like behind my vocals. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if I'm like screaming or something and it's like, you know, there's something going to be part. That's catchy behind me too. So we try and make sure sometimes there's like many hooks going at once, which is cool too. That's something that we took from a band that we really like called Audemonna Gucci. And who have like, they're like, I don't know if you've heard of them. They're a name that I've heard, but I'm not like really familiar with their stuff. That's fair. They're like, they're like a chiptune kind of, they're instrumental chiptune, like, Emo adjacent band. Like I think like, if they had a vocalist, they would be called Emo. But like, they have like so many synth lines going on at once, like, it's like actually like insane. Like, there's probably like five different synth lines going on at once. And then sometimes they'll be like harmonized too. And so you're like, holy shit, it's like saturation overload music. But that's like, my favorite kind of stuff is like very densely layered. Like, that's where like a lot of my favorite, like lobster fight and you're almost like a cune and weather day, glass beach, like a lot of my favorite stuff is just like super densely packed. Well, that's the thing, like, hey, I love you is such a like maximalist project in that way. Right. Most of the time as well. Yeah. And that's why like, yeah, shout out to anyone who takes on the task of mixing our band. Yeah. I'm sure it is really unfun. Shout out Abe Anderson, who mixed, hey, I love you this record. We spent like three, maybe four months mixing it. It's for us is a long time to be doing anything. So shout out Abe. Thank you for putting up with us. He made us sound like a real bad shout out Chris Krohmett for recording or I mean, for mastering we like our layers. We like our recording layers a lot. So I'm curious because you mentioned that you had other people like mixing and mastering. this project. I know that you guys are DIY but I know that you're also a bigger band as well, so when it comes to producing and all that kind of stuff, do you tend to do more home production, studio production, a mix of both? Because I feel like a mix of both would make sense as far as going into a studio to do drums or something like that and then doing guitars at home or something. Right. I think we try and do it in-house as much as humanly possible because the the ethos of the band is just like do what you can with what you have, right? Like when I first started, like I was recording everything on my phone because that's just all I had access to. That's all I had the money for. That's all I still have the money for really. But I think like as hey love you kind of expanded, like we kind of got and as we kind of met more people, we got access to more things and like we don't know how to make live drums sound good ourselves at all. Like Connor knows quite a bit but like it's a lot easier to get someone else to do it. Who like who like really knows? And so drums recorded with our friend Phil who lives in Bayeson, Montana at Voodoo Studio, Voodoo Studio, shout out Phil, shout out hibernator, shout out Voodoo Studios. And then guitars recorded with our friend Tyson Criter, shout out but rocket studios in Billings, Montana. Awesome name I know. Fantastic. But the thing about that is that like Bill runs everything out of his house and Tyson runs everything out of his house like as well. And it's like their professional engineers but they they didn't go to school for it or anything like that. It's just something that they do. And so I think that like in that aspect it's still pretty it's so pretty DIY I feel like. Oh 100% right. And then we did Bayeson vocals in Synth ourselves. And yeah at some point I really want to try going back to just doing completely everything in house and just like figuring it out. I think that might be a fun experiment to try. I think you definitely could because I know that like drums people make a big deal about like recording drums because there's so many inputs and different things and all that. But like there are ways that you can do it in a really minimal and like creative way. Which sounds super cool. A lot of the time it's very stylized. It's not going to sound like that very modern and like kind of drum sound where everything's close Mike the entire time. But like you can do some really cool grungy type of stuff with just a couple of mics you know one on the kick one on the snare like a couple overheads is you know right. You can get away with that. And I think that that could be something that would be you know a fun experiment for sure. My dream drum sound is Pinkerton by Weezer. I just love the way like the drums are like clipping the whole time like I love it and I want to accomplish that so bad one day. And I think Pinkerton was just like recorded by themselves. I feel like more or less. So I think it can be done. Jack's from he's a drummer flyer states and a band called Greyjoy. He has this like Yamaha drum mic I don't remember what it's called. It's called like the Yamaha GAD or something like that. It clips onto your kick and it just like records everything into one input which you would think would sound like shit. But it actually sounds fucking awesome. And it's like it's just one input so you can't like you know turn up a symbol or turn down the kick or anything like that. I don't think you can maybe you can. But like that might be something that we play around with. You can EQ it a little bit but I think the basic idea because there that's something that a lot of engineers will do when when recording drums anyways they'll put a mic in that similar position. A lot of people call it a dick mic because it's pointed right at your crotch. But it's like that is a good way of getting the full sound of the kit and a lot of the time people will just like hyper compress that and like I don't know how familiar you are with like you know mixing terminology and whatever. But like a lot of the time that'll be like almost your parallel compression. You just absolutely smash the hell out of that mic and then kind of like mix around it. So that's your base. That's how everything. Okay. You know that's the base of the sound and then everything else is just kind of adding a little bit of clarity and stuff like that. So like that's definitely like a legit way to go about it for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And that's yeah. That's something that I think I want to play around with in the future for sure because I think that this record is like what hey I love you supposed to sound like. I think Abe did a really great job. Like I think it's like feel like this is what full band. Hey I love you should sound like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know you hear the drums and those are obviously real drums and you know it's like obviously like real guitars. I don't know what I mean about real guitars. I don't like anyone really uses fake guitars. But some people do and they make it work really well. And it feels lively but it also feels like digital in a way. But I do believe I definitely do want to go at some point I want to go like even more raw and even more like noisy and screwed up sounding. I've really because a lot of my favorite bands are like a lot of my favorite bands are like really like just like raw like I really love carcy headrests and just like you know weather day as I already said it's like really raw bedroom sounding stuff. Weather day was actually crazy because I was in a band called Ray Card and when the weather day record came out in like 2019 I think it was that's what made us be like oh yo you can make your drum sound like that. Yeah we were like the mind blown type of moment. Yeah. Yeah literally. So that was a huge moment for me. But yeah. Yeah. So another thing that I kind of want to like go back to because you would mention that this was kind of like the first project that you guys that there was more written like as a group as opposed to like you bringing in most of the ideas and like that kind of stuff. That's a thing that I find very interesting about a lot of like DIY bands is most of them it feels like a lot of them now start out as somebody's personal like recording project and then kind of snowball into being like a quote unquote real band right and I think it's really interesting to pay attention to the progression of the of the songwriting and how it changes from when it's just the one person mostly bringing in the ideas to it being a lot more of a collaborative effort like I'm noticing that with I've heard a couple of the new songs that 95 Corolla are working on and they like their first album was primarily written by Christie and then everybody else just like did their parts on it and I'm noticing just from like the basic demos that they've sent out I'm like oh this is this is a new direction this is like something where I can tell that it was somebody else like came up with the idea type of deal and so I think right it's a really interesting thing to follow that progression of being like a solo songwriter versus like writing as a band more right yeah it's it's really interesting I'm sorry I'm looking at a bug crawling around I'm gonna kill it real quick uh die oh god it's going it's moving around a lot faster okay I'm so sorry I'm so sorry it's so gross I had to kill it I was gonna I was gonna let it live and then I got a better looking and I was like no if that thing's dying but yeah it was really interesting I think like the podcast yeah I think one thing is that I kind of have to learn to share a little bit because like having the product be like my own first starting out I think like when when we we be handful band instead of writing for our debut record I was like I kept being like oh like I don't know like that doesn't really sound like hey I love you like I don't know like I think I have I I felt like I had a good idea of what hey I love you fans would really like because I had read in the first three piece myself um and so I had to kind of learn to not be neurotic about what we were writing um which I'm sure was very annoying for my band members it's not like I would shoot down it's not like I was like I think like I wrote like maybe like 60 percent or maybe even like 50 percent of the debut record like it wasn't all me at all it was it was a joint collaboration maybe 40 percent I don't know but I was still like you know I was still like the the head the head master of all writing stuff and I had I had to get out of that like mindset of being like I know what the fans want to listen to because in reality I don't really know that I don't know what they want to hear like I know what I want to hear yeah I know yeah exactly I know what I want to hear I know what we want to make um or at least we know what we want to make and so I had to kind of get out of that headspace and just be like you know we're just gonna write what I like I'm gonna write what I want to write this guy's gonna write what she wants to write Steven's gonna write what he wants to write Trump is gonna write what he wants to write and we're gonna like make it all work together so I had to kind of learn to not be so I think like the thing is that I was just kind of like worried all the time about like I was really like are people gonna like this you know um was I honestly think kind of hindered the debut record like the writing process a little bit is because I was so worried about it and it I don't know I over I over thunk it a lot and and for this one like I want people to listen to the album I'm a musician I'm an artist I feel like yeah yeah obviously like you want people to look at your art but I think that you have to kind of find a balance between like making song that you think people are gonna like and but then also just saying fucking and making what you want to make in that moment like if you want to if if you want to make like the worst thing imaginable like you know if you want it if you want to like diary on your hands and put it onto a painting like fucking like do it like you know I maybe get some psychiatric help but also do it you know um and so uh yeah and I think that's like what made this album so great is that we We were just, we really just said, like, fuck it. We're just gonna make something that we wanna, like, we really wanna make. And I think, like, that helped when I was like, we wanna make something that we wanna play, like, four or five years down the road and still feel really good about it. I think that's what made it that way. It's like, we were just making something that we really wanted to make this time. Instead of being worried about, you know, I was also like, really obsessed with concept albums when we made the debut record. - Okay. - So I remember we had, like, four songs written. And so, like, I put the four songs in a hypothetical track list. And then I was like, now we have to write a song that sounds like this. I wanna get from this song. - To bridge to the gas. - Yeah, and so I get you. - It was just kind of interesting. But for this one, we just, like, we just wrote songs. And there wasn't. I think just, they're kind of ended up being, like, an overarching theme. Just because I feel like if you're writing a record and, like, it's coming from, like, one mind or, like, you know, five similar minds that think alike, it's going to be conceptual and it's going, the themes are going to line up either way because, like, that's how brains work. I feel like, you know, you-- - Well, and that's the thing about art too, is, like, it's always a reflection of your mental space and where you are, like, at the time of making it. And so, like, I almost feel like projects are generally, like, capturing a moment in time. And so, whether that's, like, an EP and album, you know, whatever is that this is-- I mean, it's almost the same as, you know, you think about, like, a photo album or something like that, right? And, like, a photo album is going to be, like, "Oh, this was the year of, you know, whatever, 2004." - Right. - And it's, like, "Oh, yeah, this is what we were doing in that year." And so, it's almost, like, the same thing of, like, it's documenting the headspace, the mental space of where you are in your art in some way. And so, like, I feel, like, naturally, a lot of the time, you get to the point of almost being conceptual just because you're living your life and you're writing about your lived experience, you know? - Yes, exactly. Yeah, and this song was written, like, or this song. Like, this album was written, like, you know, like, I said, like, over, like, a two-year period. And so, like, obviously, a lot of life happens in two years. Like, a lot of-- - A hundred percent. - You experience a lot of things, but I think the things that really stuck out to me enough to write songs about ended up being, like-- Like, I remember, like, we were-- I was recording vocals, like, in my basement. We were recording vocals. And I was looking through the lyrics and I was like, "Damn, a lot of these songs are, like, about the same thing." Like, it's actually kind of crazy. And that thing ended up being, like, anger. Like, I was, like, I think I was experiencing a lot of things that were just pissing me off. And I think, that's kind of, like, what this record is, is kind of, like, an exercise of that anger, you know? Like, extrism type thing. It's, like, I had to get this anger out of me 'cause I'm not, I don't think I'm an angry person. I don't know. I try not to be an angry person. But I think, like, there's a lot of shit. - I've never gotten out of you. (laughing) - Well, I appreciate that. But I think that, like, during the writing of these songs, like, there was a lot of things that were just, like, getting on my nerves and I think it was-- I was becoming very irritable. And so, I think, like, this is what we needed to write these songs in order to express that anger. And that frustration and that anxiety. And actually, like, it's actually crazy too. 'Cause, like, I remember, like, when I was recording, I keep it up. - Like, when we were recording vocals, I keep saying, I, but I did not record vocals myself. I can't do that. We tried that. We tried me doing vocals by myself. - Like, like, just get your engineering at yourself. - No, like, recording them, like, on my own. And, like, all the takes were, like, really, really bad. So, I found out that I needed to have at least someone there to tell me, like, that was good, or that was bad, or keep doing that. They would do that again, or tried this instead. - No, that's not. - So, when we were doing that, like, yeah. But when we were doing that, like, I was, like, looking through my lyrics and I was, like, holy shit. Did I write that? Like, that was crazy. Like, I obviously did not feel that strongly about that anymore. But, yeah, I think it just, you know, sometimes you got to, like, hunker down and get pissed off. - And, yeah, I don't know. - This is a really angry record. The single that we're coming out with, you know, week is actually, like, I think, like, the angriest song that we have, like, ever written. Like, a lot of the things that I say in there, like, really, like, nasty, I'm like, whoa. But, you know what? That's just, that's how it's feeling at the time. And, like, you know, that's how these people made me feel. You know, like, they made me feel small, and they pissed me off. So, the lesson is don't piss me off. Otherwise, you'll end up in a "Hey, I love you" song. Or maybe do piss you off if you want to end up in a "Hey, I love you" song. - If you want, if you want to end up in a "Hey, I love you" song, then piss me off. What's, to be fair, like, I feel like you have to really mess up to make me mad. I don't know, like, I'm a really passive dude. Like, I'm not good at letting things go. Otherwise, I wouldn't be writing songs about them. But, I am good about, like, pushing them to the back of my mind, you know? - Oh, you sure? - So, like, I feel like you have to really, really, continuously, like, you know, like, in order to make me mad. - Yeah, no, I get you, I get you, for sure. - Even then, like, I'm not gonna do anything about it. I'm just gonna write a song. - I feel like, but yeah, that's the only way that I feel like, I can express, like, emotions like that, is, like, writing music. 'Cause I have a hard time, like, talking about my feelings. 'Cause I'm a guy. I'm a guy. It just happens. - No, I'm just kidding. It's not a guy, I think it's just a, I don't know. I don't know what it, I don't know. But, like, and so music is, like, the best way, I think, for me, to express my music, or express my feelings. I think art is just really, like, one of the greatest ways to express yourself. No matter, like, what emotion that be, whether I be, like, happiness, anger, sadness. - It's a great outlet, for sure. And I-- - It's an awesome outlet. - Often wonder, like, people who don't really pursue any arts at all, I'm like, what is the thing that you do that, like, does that same thing for you? 'Cause, like-- - It's kind of scary, right? - Like, I get, like, some people are like, oh, you know, I get angry, and so I play, like, you know, violent video games, or whatever. And it's like, I'm into that, I get that too. But it's like, I feel like, I don't know, you're, it's less personal, it's less processing. - Right. - I don't know. - It's like, 'cause I, you know, I've, I'm just like, how do people deal with, like, negative emotions, if they don't, if they're not, like, creating something, you know? Like, that thought kind of freaks me out. I'm like, sometimes people, like, come into help Murphy's where I work, and they'll be, like, really angry. And, like, you know, yada yada, they'll, like, take it out on us, you know? You know, they'll take it out on, like, - That's what they do, they take it out on customer service workers. - I know that it's like, it's like, I'm just like, dang, dude, you should really, like, pick up a guitar, or something, you know? Or, like, you know, pick up a pencil. - Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a weird thought that I have sometimes. It's just like, how do these people do that? How do they go? 'Cause I feel like I could not live life if I wasn't expressing myself through this outlet of art. In some way, like, even if it's not music, like, even if I'm doing, like, even if I'm drawing, or even if I'm working on, like, a video or something, you know, it's still, like, some kind of expression. - Some kind of free of outlet, yeah, exactly. - Yeah, I'm just like, how would I be functioning right now? And I probably wouldn't be. I'd probably, I'd probably, would be, like, a lunatic. - Yeah. - Which, you know, I am. But, like, I'd probably be a lot, a lot. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So I think that we're kind of getting to a natural conclusion of this part of the episode. Is there anything specifically that you wanted to hit on about the new project, or the band that I might have missed before we move on to the next part of the episode? - I don't know. I think I hit on all the, I think I talked about everyone who worked on the album with us. I talked about the band. Shout out Lone Ghost Records, who is, you know, hey, Lovie's label, they're the ones putting out this, sorry, I stepped on Jackson's high hat behind me. I don't know if you could hear that. Also, I've been burping. I'm really sorry, it's really gross. I don't know if you've been able to hear it, but I've been, this copy is making me, okay. You'll probably be able to hear it in my voice recording. And I apologize, everyone, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. - I am, I always cut those out. - Oh, okay, awesome. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, shout out Lone Ghost Records who are putting out this album. They've been with, hey, I love you. Not since day one, but it feels like it's been since day one. They were the ones who put out in an appress. And they've been great. Shout out, shout out Lone Ghost Records. Shout out all the bands on Lone Ghost Records. Shout out, Fresh Fines Podcast. Oh, wait, I want to do the discord thing. I order if we'll do it again if I clap. - It's not going to do it again. - No, yes, no. (laughing) - Ah, I think I'm ready to move on if you are. - Oh, I thought of one more thing. I thought of one more thing. - Yeah, did you announce any plans for physicals for this project? - You know, actually, it's one of the things I mentioned that yesterday, John and Shane of Lone Ghost Records and I, we were all like, oh shit, we don't have any like physicals planned yet. So yesterday we were scrambling, trying to get all the information we needed out for cassette tapes. There are going to be cassettes, vinyls and t-shirts. - Eventually. - Eventually, yes. I think cassettes are going to be, hopefully, they're going to come out with the album. I think you'll be able to order them, it's not a preorder. - It's not a preorder. - That is a lot faster than like nothing else. - Yeah, so. - Vinyl for sure is going to be a pre-order. I think sure it's going to be pre-order as well. But yeah, I'm not sure if you've seen the album cover. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, okay, sick. I was having such a hard time yesterday picking the vinyl colors. Like, I was like, I don't want it to be black, but like, what color am I supposed to do that goes with this album? I feel like I had a lot of options, but also none. You know? I feel like yellow and pink splatter or something like that would almost be enjoyable. I ended up going with blue because all of the yellows I really wanted to go with a yellow, but like all the yellows just look like piss There is a lot of there is a lot of blue accent in it for sure There is a lot of blue accent. Yeah. Yeah. There is a lot of like a lot Which is perfect So where's Waldo fucking right? Shadow Haley underscore ham 24 on Instagram. She did the album cover And it's perfect. Like we were really struggling with what we wanted the face of this album to be And I think that like when I I was just like scrolling through Instagram Reels and she popped up on my Instagram Reels And I was like holy sit like this is like this would be perfect for him. I love you So shout out Haley seated an incredible job. She did that. I'm covering like a week. Wow. I know right. This is crazy So thank you so much Haley for creating the face of this album. She did such an incredible job It's it's I'm really happy with how the album cover looks It's hanging up on the like the official album art is like hanging up on my wall and every day I wake up and I look It's sick and every day I look I wake up and I'm going. I'm going. I'm just like hell. Yeah, like it's just it's great It's great. It feels weird. I don't want to feel I try not to be too prideful about my music And I try and be really humble about it and it's weird because like that album cover is like a task to something that I did But I'm it's such a cool album cover like it's so cool. I can't even lie. It's one of those things I think it'll be really cool when the vinyl release does come out I always love looking at these very intricate detailed things on like a vinyl cover because it's so much bigger You can see all the details. Yeah, like um for for example a great example was the last pulses record that came out a year ago It wasn't supposed to be like this has so many small little details in the album artwork that I never noticed until I got it on vinyl and looked at it and I'm like Holy shit. There's so many different like small little references and stuff and you know when you're looking at it in the like One inch by one inch little square on like Spotify or whatever streaming service you use You're not going to pick up on all of that you're just like oh, yeah I know that that's what that album is but you look at it like way bigger and you're like oh this is The amount of detail is really cool. That's what happened when I got the actual like outmart ship to me Uh, when I opened it I was like holy shit and it's crazy because like a lot of the layers uh that are on the album cover are like Like little physical layers Like it's kind of crazy. It if that makes sense like so this this is actually a physical collage that you have the yeah Yeah, that's actually really rad and it's crazy too because like she like did like the background and then she would do like the first layer And then she would do like the second layer than the third layer and so like a lot of the stuff like is being covered up by like other things too Like it it's really in depth like I was like What the like it's kind of crazy. It's super sick and like the hell of you like the The like the band name is like it's own like final topping layer that like puts like a shadow over everything And it's just it's so good. It's so that's super cool with it It's super cool But now I'm like, you know for future hailey releases. I'm like. Oh, no. How are we going to top that like this might be peak art I don't know hailey did an incredible job She she is really great what she does and I think everyone involved in the record did an incredible job And I'm I'm just really stoked that I got to be a part of it and that I got to be a part of making this album that I'm really proud of Yeah, all right hell yeah So uh moving on to the next uh next part of the episode here We're gonna go back and forth and listen to some tunes and talk about them some new underground Sometimes not so new because I know that you've got a couple that are like as far as like independent stuff Goes kind of a throwback at this point. Yeah, but you know, that's just the way things go I'm gonna start out with the first song. We're gonna go back and forth. So you're gonna have the the closing track here So the first one that I have is Currently unreleased, but it actually comes out. I believe this Thursday, October 3rd. This is from the brown maple and St. Judith split Yeah, which is called songs about cats and starting over Hell yeah, that's such an awesome title. It's really good So this is a split between uh between brown maple. That's who this song is by uh, they are from I believe Toledo, Ohio And uh, they are signed to kleptofase records this project equipment this project is getting a joint tape release via kleptofase records and reply guy records doing two different variants of the tapes So this song is called why do all my friends like Malore? , but I can't get you to stay away. I say get your fucking clothes on. I can't see the way. Wasting my way. My pictures in my mind. I raised my mind raised killed by time. Could I change the past? Maybe fill the gaps. My feet are so like true. The crowd I stand. That's what I want. Will I see a change? Too a better day. I just want you to feel better. But you're still the stranger. So I keep moving on to what you work. And you act like it's the season changing up and getting worse. [Music] Never wanted us to fall apart. But everyone you said to me would bring you closer to my heart. So I'll be selfish. I'll avoid it. I'll protect myself again. Touch it once. And just avoid it. Leave me scars to me. Ain't nobody never worth. I would never worth. I said I'm trying to think that I'm not far off the top one. What did I think? Did I think what happened? Was the outcome of the thing I had imagined? I said you're the best pink furnace. Don't you remember me? There are no more. I feel the rain. I feel the rain. I can't leave the key. At your front door. Wish I could be there. Had it not going up and smoke. But reality is sinking in. And I can feel it in my smoke. That I can't keep drifting away. I said I'm never seen. But I know it's meaningless work. But what will they be when they pass that tonight? That was kind of rift city. It was one of those songs with like hello riffs. That was rift city. That was like hellet's sick. Dude, it's so good. And I feel like immediately here in this, I'm like I can't wait to experience this song live. Because I feel like especially that chorus is going to go so hard. Like probably do some sort of like audience participation thing with it to like getting people to sing along. Yeah, it's so like we're done. Yeah. Yeah, that was that was hellet's sick. Yeah, that was that was my first experience to Brown Maple. And now I'm going to listen to more of them after this because that was so fucking awesome. They are fantastic. I'm excited to hear that split when it comes out like saying Judas, obviously great fucking songwriting. And that was brought me with great sound writing. It was going to be a really strong split. I feel it. That was that was so sick. Yeah, I think that this is going to be like an instant classic for them. Like I feel like this is going to be one that's going to come out. And everybody's just going to be like so stoked on it. I agree. They released their last EP at the beginning of this year in March. It's called I'll get around to it. And that is a fantastic record. If you're like looking to get into their stuff, they have a couple of other EPs and singles from before that. But I think that that is kind of like right now the best spot to jump into their music. They've got a single call maple, but it's just MPL in all caps and I think that that like outside of this split is probably the like the best song to kind of like introduce you to the rest of their stuff, but they're absolutely phenomenal. Um, I got to see them with cinema stare a couple months ago, which was a fantastic show, some of the nicest people I've ever met. And that was actually how I found out about the split was I was talking with them at like the merch table. And they're like, yeah, so we got this thing coming up. So sick. Yeah. Oh, that's that was awesome. That was like, whoo. Okay. I'm not like, like I said this earlier before recording, but like I have a hard time waking up recently, because I've been closing up health Murphy's. Um, and so I get home and I stay up super late, and then I have to go waking up with usually on morning guy, but like that song like has me am to star right now. Like I have to go work my I have to go work my shift after this, but like, I'm gonna listen to that song on the bus ride there. And I'm like, like, I'm going to be like, listen to that on the bus, let's do the shit. Yeah, yeah, that was that was fucking awesome. Like that. All right. So, uh, what do we have up next? What what's going to be your first, uh, your first tune? Uh, my first song is, uh, I believe it's Rojan. I believe that's how you pronounce that name. Rojan does advice now, which is a song by a band called Johnny Forner. Johnny Forner is a band I believe from Birmingham that I've been a fan of for a while now. I was more of like a passing fan. Like I really liked their big hits, but never really delved super deep into the catalog. Yeah, that's exactly, but for some reason, like this last year, especially like, I've just been like, ups, like something clicked for me. And I was like, holy shit, this is like the best band in the world. I've definitely felt that. And so like, I've, right. And so like, I, uh, I've been just such a huge fan. And, uh, in June, they started teasing new music. And I was like, what, like, that's like best case scenario when you get like, really into a band. And then like, I don't know why they're coming out, because like, they hadn't put out, yeah, they hadn't put out new music in like a really long time. I think their last album was in like 2016. So like, you know, they, they, they were putting out beautiful. And then like, the year that I got into, yeah, the year that I got into them, they just happened to be like putting out new music. I was like, yo, and yeah. And so they've been really influential for me, like writing new music, like the stuff that's going to come out. Yeah. And so like this, this next project. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. After this album, it's going to sound a lot like Donnie Forder. And then I'm really excited for you to have you ever heard of Johnny Ford? I've never heard of them before. Oh, I'm so excited for you to hear this. This is the first song on their new album. As soon as I heard it, I'm like, this is a great record. And it is a fantastic record. Hell yeah. I can't wait. Let's go. Let's get into it. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] The flow of that song is so crazy. Like I love how it goes from like these like a couple really kind of ridiculously heavy little riffs. But then it's also got like these like almost cute light sections like the way that it goes back and forth between those is super fun. There's just like a stop and start kind of band you know it's fucking awesome like just when you think you've walked into the like the oh this is like the monster part and they like like drop it down for a second you're like oh yeah go back into it and they're good so they're like guitar interplay is insane. Like I don't know how they do it like I don't know if it comes through on discord like they do a lot of like panned stuff where like one guitar will hit one note and then stop and then while the guitar stops the other guitar on the right side will hit a note and it like it's crazy like it'll be like dirt dirt dirt you know it's nuts it's awesome that kind of stuff where you like kind of like interplay with like the different sides of the guitars and stuff like that there's especially when it's I don't know there's a way that you can do it where it almost like it tickles my brain in a very specific way there's a great great Michigan band called potion cellar I don't know if you're familiar with them. I am not an awesome name though. They dropped in EP this year I can't remember exactly what the EP is called but they're the last song on it is called natty ice and there's this thing where the guitars are pan left and right and in the second verse I think it is there's like they hit accents sometimes on different notes and sometimes on the same note and so it's like the accent kind of bounces around the stereo field in a very interesting way and I absolutely love it. That's sick. That's something that Johnny 400 does a lot and they also do a lot with like vocal melodies too like there's a lot of like calling response type vocal melodies because I believe they have I believe they're drummer and then they're bassist and then like they're front person like they all share like a lot of very equal vocal duties and so like that's something I really want to play with a lot because like everyone here I love you sings basically. So something I want to play with a lot in the future and we haven't playing a lot with his like I'll be singing a song like I'll be singing like my part sky's part will come in and it'll kind of like overlap a little bit you know and then she'll be like off singing her own thing like and that's then that Johnny 400 does a lot and it's so awesome and I'm just like yeah there and the music is very strong that they did in this I it's very like amusing to me because it's like they they got the lyrics and then like the singing and then the rest of the band chimes in almost as if they're like talking to the person that's singing like in real time like it feels right musical theater in a way almost but it's like I I don't I'm not a huge fan of a lot of like musical theater type music but I don't get the same kind of like a cringe factor I guess that that I would get if it were done like a musical theater context I'm just like this is kind of this is a fun way to do it like it sounds like you're in a room with your friends playing a song and they're like you know fucking with you interjecting while you're doing your thing I think it's really fun it's so awesome the next song on the album like they actually do this thing at the very end where they reference they were supposed to blink when you two okay and the bassist goes that's about the time I walk away from him I walk away from him and then like the guitarist singer goes get it and the bassist goes I get it like it's like rhythmic and like it's like can't it's so it's so cute and so it's so much fun I really like it I like it a lot um yeah they do a lot of they do a lot of really fun stuff just fun fun and catchy and uh like that's another band it's like they're like hook city like like that like that like that guitar riff behind like the come on like it's it's awesome I love that band that's a great band that's a great song great record everyone check it out yeah absolutely I I think that that's sick so um my next song is one that got directly submitted to me uh in in my email if you are uh listening to this and you want to submit some of your music for me to check out fresh finds pod at gmail.com this song is by a band called cat and the hurricane and they are in all queer slash trans uh like indie pop trio from Wisconsin uh so they they do a lot of like very poppy type of like but it's also kind of like indie rock inspired as well so they have their debut You full-length album coming out as of recording this Friday, October 4th, which is called Got It Out. This is the final single that they released before the album drops and it's called Smoke. This is the last album that they released before the album drops and it's called Got It Out. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. ♪ But before the time ♪ ♪ I'm watchin' for it, I'll keep realin' that ♪ ♪ And I will try to be mine ♪ ♪ Better to decide ♪ ♪ Searchin' for us in the basement ♪ ♪ Searchin' for us in the corridor ♪ ♪ I don't know how to believe it ♪ ♪ 'Cause I've never lived in a tree ♪ ♪ So I was lookin' at this ♪ ♪ My story is somehow ♪ (upbeat rock music) ♪ Victory's training for our losses ♪ ♪ The way back ♪ ♪ The way you're the space ♪ ♪ Let's see the emptiness and try to replay ♪ ♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪ ♪ Try to rewrite it ♪ ♪ Better to decide ♪ ♪ Searchin' for us in the middle of you ♪ ♪ You are just to remember the pain ♪ ♪ I don't know how to believe it ♪ ♪ I don't know how to live in a tree ♪ ♪ So I was lookin' at this ♪ ♪ My story is somehow ♪ (upbeat rock music) - That is incredible. - Oh my god. - That song is fucking awesome. Crying, they're a three piece. I have no idea where they're from. - I think Canada, I could be really wrong about that. I don't know why that specifically sticks out in my brain, they're from Canada. And before this record, they were like a heavy player from New York. - New York, I don't know why the fuck I said Canada. But before this album, they were like a chiptune band, like hella chiptune. - Oh, interesting. - Yeah, but like for this record, they took on like more of like a 80s synth kind of approach. Like I feel like you can kind of hear like the 80s glam rock kind of influence in that song. - The first chords, I was immediately like crazy stadium rock. - Yeah, exactly, yeah. And it's that whole record is like, they're like doing like guitar hero type shit. It's really sick. They're a really incredible band. Yeah, I love that song, very specific, like that song. If I'm like, if I need to get amp for something, that's usually like my go-to. Like I'm always like fuck here. Like, yeah. It really does also kind of have that like anime music type of like aesthetic a little bit too. So when you were like, oh yeah, just imagine me chasing the bus like I'm in like an anime or something like that. I was immediately, I'm like, that's a funny visual. And then like I listen to it, I'm like, holy shit. All right, actually this makes so much sense. - Right, yeah, exactly. I kind of felt like a bad ass when I finally caught up to the bus, 'cause I caught up to the bus like at the very tail end of the song. And I was like, it felt like triumphant. Like I was like, I felt like a god, it was so sick. But yeah, great band crying. If you love synths, you gotta check out that band. 'Cause their synth work is insane. Their drums are crazy, their guitarist is actually so goaded. And their front person, it's actually crazy. 'Cause like the band is so in your face except for the vocals. Like the vocals are very like, there's energy behind them, but it's not like, it's not as in your face as like every other aspect of the record. Like the vocals are kind of like, you know, bad. - There's to do it a little bit. - Yeah, they're not like on top of like, it's like pop style like vocal production. - Right. - But like Austin with that style of vocal production, it kind of sits like on top of the music a little bit more. This feels a lot more like it's like inside, like it's a member of the band. That's kind of like how I think about like mixing vocals is either it can be like, you're a member of the band or there's the band and then there's the vocalist. And so this definitely feels like they are part of the band and like as a unit, you know what I mean? - Which I think works perfectly because I feel like if they were like, you know, like really eccentric with the vocals and like really out there, you'd be like, hope this is like too much. But I think that's like, I think that's like perfect for crying. Yeah, it's a great band. And like a lot of their songs are like very fantastical too, like lyrically, like they have songs about like, their front person finding like a white marble that's like magic and transforming them into like a creature. It's all their songs are really fun and awesome like that. - That's where I had heard of them before 'cause I recognized the name and you had mentioned that before this they were really like chiptune type of stuff because I was like, God, I recognize this name but I can't really like think of anything. We actually featured one of their like more chiptune type songs from their 2014 album on an episode with the band Ghost Town Remedy from Nashville. A couple of years back. So this is actually the second time that they've been featured on the podcast, but we're a lot bigger now. So maybe we'll get their attention this time around. - Hell yeah, they're a great band. It's actually funny that like, 'cause I think they're definitely two different eras of crying, like they're chiptune and then they're like, they're like, you know, guitar hero eras, you know? And so it's funny that you got both sides on the podcast here. - A little bit of both, yeah. - Yeah, that's awesome. - Fuck yeah. - Yeah, great band. Everyone check them out, shout out crying. - All right, so my next song that I'm gonna play is by a band called New Ghost. They are a band that I found. I think just through like an Instagram or Twitter post or something like that. So somebody was talking about like new releases to check out and they released their new album, which is called A Daggerian Every Tide and with great, great album name. - That is sick. - Off the bat, like it's so like anime, like fucking like, I don't know, there's something so like big and grandiose about it. Anyway, this album came out on September 6th and I've been really into it. They're kind of like this synth pop, shoe gaze type of band. So it's gonna be a lot slower than the last stuff we listen to. We're gonna slow it down a little bit. - Oh yeah. - But they're from Sheffield UK. This is Dream Song by New Ghost. (gentle music) ♪ All the pictures of the stars ♪ ♪ It is a world for where the heart gets gone ♪ ♪ We used to fall ♪ ♪ More than seven else ♪ ♪ I never knew how much you need to survive ♪ ♪ It's just breathing and giving up ♪ ♪ Pretend it is real ♪ ♪ Your life is just a dream ♪ ♪ Telling me into something new ♪ ♪ I need a lot of record at the start ♪ ♪ It's you, it starts now ♪ ♪ When time is just an animal ♪ ♪ A reason to it just to give up ♪ ♪ Just breathing and giving up ♪ ♪ Pretend it is real ♪ ♪ Your life is just a dream ♪ ♪ It's crying out loud ♪ ♪ Take a moment to see this world ♪ ♪ This is a dream ♪ ♪ I need a lot of record at the start ♪ ♪ I need a lot of record at the start ♪ ♪ It's just breathing and giving up ♪ ♪ Pretend it is real ♪ ♪ Your life is just a dream ♪ ♪ Telling me into something new ♪ ♪ I need a lot of record at the start ♪ ♪ It's just breathing and giving up ♪ ♪ Just breathing and giving up ♪ ♪ Pretend it is real ♪ ♪ Your life is just a dream ♪ ♪ It's crying out loud ♪ [Music] It's crying up in my head, taking over the space, letting me shoot, but not me, it's crying up in my head, taking over the space, letting me shoot, but not me. [Music] So much for planning your escape, I've waited too long. [Music] That was sick. Dude, right? That was another bass. Really great bass song too. 100%, the bass is fantastic. Again, amazing tone, great little runs and stuff like that. A lot less showy than some of the last ones, because it's just like a much slower song. It's kind of got that almost counter melody thing in some of the fills that it does, that it's very melodic. Yeah, I noticed at the very beginning before the first chorus hit, everything was kind of repeating a little bit. They had that synth melody that was like, "Dude, dude, dude, like kind of repeating." But the bass was kind of carrying it a little bit, you know? The bass was like the one doing different stuff and doing kind of melodies that weren't really repeating that much. That was really sick. And when the first chorus hit, I was like, "Whoa," because it got bigger and heavier, but the vocals got breathier. Yeah, it's almost softer. I really like the way that they do their vocals, because they're very understated, but also extremely beautiful in the way that they're done. They have incredible vocal talent, but they don't bring a lot of attention to it. Right, I also really loved this in song structure when there's the choruses, but then the outro is kind of like its own separate chorus, but it's like way stripped back, and it's kind of like the song is falling apart a little bit. That's the thing that I think cursive does a lot really well. And that song was like, that ending was so sick, and they had that weird guitar sound that was really distorted, and that was really sick. And the little glitchy edits and stuff like that. And that's one of the things that I really love about this project as well is it's understated maximalism. Yes, in a way, because there's so many different layers going on, there's so much, but at the same time, it's very easy to listen to. It's something that I think that this works best as a full album. I had trouble just picking one song, because the way that the entire record flows, it feels wrong to pull one out of the context of the whole project. So I highly recommend, if you like that, listening to the whole thing, it's about an hour, it's a pretty long album as far as this type of stuff goes, but I think that it's so hypnotic and enveloping that it's such a cool listen. Yeah, that was really sick, that was really good. And like the part before this head and chorus too, was there just like there was like, that was really so sick. Yeah, because they really get into that wall of noise, like shougaes type of thing, and just like hammering that one note, and it's like it builds up this tension, and then there's kind of like the release once you get to the chorus. Right. And I think it's absolutely brilliant the way that it's done. Yeah, that was so sick, that was really cool. Thank you so much for playing it, that was awesome. Yes. Alright, what do we have up next? I believe I picked hard to gold, is that correct? We can do that one. Which one did I say was going to be next? I had fend up next. Yes, let's do fend, let's do fend. Okay, alright. This is, what should I say? See the problem with this one is that like I had like so many fend songs I wanted to pick. Secret evil. Secret evil. Okay, sick. Fend is Minneapolis homies. They're a super group of sorts. They're made up from members of father Melissa, uh, keep for cheap early eyes. So they're made up of a bunch of different bands. I think I'm forgetting one. A bear is sitting on drums. A bear is sitting as a great homie to the band. They're all homies, but A bear is sitting have been, he has been a great friend of ours for like a long time. And he plays drums in this band. And I saw him live for the first time a few nights ago. They were absolutely magnificent. And it's weird because like the songwriting is incredible. Like you're never really, they don't groove very long for one like one time. Like they're like root for a little bit and you'll be like getting really into it. And then I'll be like, uh, just kidding. We're going into this next part now. And you're like, whoa. What's happening? Um, so yeah, we've got like a great band. Shout out disc. They can't with this record. I think this year, I think a few months ago. I think it was like a month ago. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was, it was the beginning of September. It came out the same day as that last album actually September 6. Okay, sick. Holy shit. That's so dope. I just experienced so much life in the past month that I'm like, well, what a time. Um, no, I want 100% get it. Um, but yeah, it's, I'm an a bourbon. It's really gross. I'm so sorry. But yeah, fantastic band. I love Fendt. And yeah, I'm excited to hear this song. It's great. I don't feel like being here anymore. Feeling ripped out to my very core. It's like the capacity for explaining is all it's for. Just think about it for a few people. But we're all the cigarettes. Oh, it's more. I still hear your voice which bridges one hundred more. They have just so far to fake this one. Ain't a bastard decent, and how's he never more. Hey, Mom. How's he living? How's he living? Oh, he's having no more. He's getting too far. La la la, burn in diesel secret people by, yeah, finally say no, no. La la, burn in diesel secret people by, yeah, finally say no, no. So sick. Yeah, and that's like their most straightforward song, which is crazy because like that song is like, like the part before their breakdown was in like seven four. You know, it's like, yeah, it's it's crazy stuff. Um, absolutely incredible band. Very hard to mosh to. As soon as you get into a groove, they're just. to something else. Yeah, exactly. And that was really fun. Uh, that was a really great show. There was like, you know, obviously a push pit for the faster songs. And then, but then there was, there was one mother fucker who was crowd killing. Oh, it was so fucking awesome. It was so sick. Crowd killing to the like, I was joking with baby flesh like, should I crowd kill? But then there was like, some guy was actually doing it, which was so awesome. I really fucked. I fuck with it so heavy. Yeah. Shout out, fan. Shout out, disc, which was the album that came out on. Uh, very new and very incredible. Everyone loves disc. It's just back everyone in the world loves this. It is great album. It's so it's it's one of those things. I find this type of music really interesting because it has these really catchy parts, but it also like that ending bit is like so just like almost beat down hardcore like like type shit. Yeah, just that one riff over and over and over and you're like, all right, I get what's going up. But then there's also like the crazy like poppy type stuff. They got the little like sense in the chorus and all that like that's something that I absolutely love about like the modern state of music is that you can put all of these things together and nobody really like bats and I at it and like thinks it's weird. You know what I mean? Right. You can do this heavy section and then you can do like a really catchy section. And it's not like I feel like you first started seeing that kind of stuff with like you know metalcore and like that kind of stuff where it was like you know very anthemic chorus and then like crazy, crazy heavy like verses and breakdowns and stuff. I feel like we're getting away from that and getting more to like a very poppy song that just happens to have heavy elements to it. Yeah. Which I think is I think is kind of more interesting to me at this point because it mixes everything together instead of feeling like it's like all right, left turn to this right turn to this. Yes. I agree. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. Yeah, it is really interesting. And I love it. I love I love when musicians have crazy left turns. Music. I love music so much. Music. Music are great. I am a big fan of the music. Yeah. Sound out music. Sound out band. Incredible band. Hell yeah. All right. So my next song is another one that is currently unreleased but it will be released by the time the episode comes out. This is from Denver Emo Band Buddy Bench. So they are kind of like a Midwest Emo type of band. They have a new EP. Their debut EP is called Dibs on First Rips and it's coming out on October 11th. They released the first two singles to this which I believe had different mixes at the time of release. Really late last year and really early this year. I believe yeah, it was November of 2023 and then January of 2024. Then they've been spending the rest of this year kind of shoring everything up, making sure that their debut EP is as good as it can be for when it comes out. This is an EP cut. This wasn't a single and it's called The Observer. So we asked me to feel and dry now that I'm grown. You can't vocalize and say it's getting bad. When you're getting a dump so why the hell are you so sad? I asked them to mess back when we were kids. We're more than just a rotten piece of shit to cover our heads 'cause I do. And I wish you good. But we could try to kick his ass before 2021. And I know you tell me that I'm more than just my thoughts. And I'm the Observer, one good. This is an EP cut. This is an EP cut. This is an EP cut. This is an EP cut. This is an EP cut. God, that shit is so good. That was so. That was a lot of theory going on. I feel like in that song. Dude, it is so like, it's easy to like, not along too, but it's also like, if you try and count what's going on, there's a lot of like, I think there's parts that are in three, there's parts that are in five, there's very little part in nine. Yeah, I heard a point that was, yeah, yeah, that was, yeah, that was in nine, yeah. I feel like this band has a, has like someone in this band has a theater background, because to me, like, a lot of these as someone who has, who was in theater, a lot of those, those, a lot of parts in that song, I'm just like, that sounds like it could be in a play, like that was, that was really sick. That was really dope. I really liked that. That was one of the things they sent me a demo of, I think it was a different song, but it also had like, some crazy times they didn't really shit going on, and I was like, man, this was crazy, it was like, kind of hard to follow, but I loved it, and they're like, yeah, putting that college level music education to work right there. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, yeah, that was so sick. I liked how it didn't get big until it needed to be, you know what I mean? I was like, it was like really like, oh, it's gonna be a big yet. Nope. Oh, now, nope. And then like, when I finally did it, it was like, brunna, brunna, brunna, that was so sick. I feel like that's very emblematic in the drums too, because like, it starts out, and it's like, you've got this really complex, you know, Midwest emo-y type riff, but drums are pretty straightforward. It's almost like a half time feel type of deal, like it's really laid back, but then near the end, like, he just starts going crazy with like the different bills and stuff like that, and especially going between like the time signatures, and it almost turns into like a cacophony for a second, you're like, I don't know what's going on, and like, that build is incredible to me. Yeah, like that, that it was so sick. Also like in the second verse, I think it was like the drummer doing this really like, it was like very quiet, but it was very, it was like a, like, they were like doing this like crazy like cymbal, like, it was really sick, yeah, that was, that was really fucking, that was, I also need to check out more of that back, because that was really good. Yeah, so this EP, again, comes out October 11th, and another fun thing to note about this song, particularly, is the backing vocals, the really lush, huge harmony backing vocals, those were done by 95 Corolla's own Christy, he featured on this song, doing those backing vocals. i guess he wrote all the harmonies and everything to that that's something that he uh. it seems like he knows really well is how to create these really lush, rich vocal harmonies. - That's sick. That was the first thing that stuck out to me was those ooze and oz. Like there was a part where they, it's like they kind of like do like a diminished kind of thing. - Yeah. - And you're like, whoa, like that's like, that's really sick. - Again, kind of getting more into like that, like music nerd music theory type shit. Where you're like, oh, this is really interesting. Like I never would have come up with those harmonies for that part that way. It's so interesting and it's got this really lush, atmospheric, kind of cloudy type of sound to it where it's like, it sits like a mist over top of everything. It envelopes everything, but it doesn't like take over, you know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, that was hella sick. - So I very much looking forward to this project coming out. I've been listening to it offline quite a bit. So very excited. - Ten days. - I get to hear 10 days from today. - Oh yeah, that was so sick, hell yeah. - All right, what do we have up next? - We have hard to gold up next. - All right. - What's hard to gold song did I pick? - You had get it back. - Get it back, okay. So hard to gold are a trio from Minneapolis, I believe, or St. Paul, somewhere in the Twin Cities. - Somewhere around there. - And somewhere around there, yeah. I don't know if you have any, had an exposure to hard to gold yet? - I saw them at Excellency this year. They played the main stage. - Sick. - Yeah. - Okay, great band, incredible band. - Absolutely cool. - I saw them for the first time at Burnbright MKE. We played there with them. And they are very, they're very cool. They're very like laid back, you know? They're very like just like chill, quiet, funny homies, which is crazy 'cause like their music is like, they were like, I think one of the loudest bands at Burnbright MKE. I don't know if you have the same experience at Excellency, but they were loud, like it was sick. And it was crazy 'cause it's only three of them. And it was so cool. They were able to accomplish such a crazy fucking in-your-face loud sound. And so they are coming out with a record. I don't know when, but this is one of the, one of three singles I think they've released, leading up to the album. I could be getting some info wrong there. But yeah, it's really sick. And I'm really excited for their album. These singles that they've been teasing it with have been p-cart to gold. So I'm really excited about it. (rock music) ♪ Oh, no ♪ ♪ Hey ♪ ♪ You can't see ♪ ♪ My side ♪ ♪ Oh ♪ ♪ Disadvantage ♪ ♪ Can't you see how feeling all my heart feels ♪ ♪ We're in love ♪ ♪ Looking at me ♪ ♪ 'Cause we're not bad but a little ♪ ♪ I don't feel too fine ♪ ♪ I'll be so mad ♪ ♪ I'm mad ♪ ♪ Can't just cry ♪ ♪ I see you get to see more ♪ ♪ Fight out for life ♪ ♪ You're us ♪ ♪ You see more ♪ (rock music) ♪ The actual ♪ (rock music) ♪ You hold on ♪ ♪ Can't ignore me ♪ ♪ My side ♪ ♪ Now ♪ ♪ Say yes to me ♪ ♪ Can't you see how feeling all my heart feels ♪ ♪ We're not bad but a little ♪ ♪ We're not bad but a little ♪ (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) (rock music) ♪ We're not bad but a little ♪ ♪ 'Cause we're not bad but a little ♪ (rock music) (rock music) ♪ I'm mad ♪ ♪ Just don't care ♪ ♪ No one can give a question ♪ ♪ I don't care ♪ ♪ I'm never getting wrong ♪ (rock music) - So good. - Oh yeah. - So good. - I think that this is my first time listening to any of their recorded stuff. Like I said, I saw them at Excellency and I remember thinking that they were really good but I never went and listened to any of their recorded stuff. So this is absolutely incredible. - Yeah, I know, right? Like everything about it is just right. Like every riff you're like that belongs there. You know, like, oh, it's so good. - It's an interesting mix of sounds to me. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's kind of got this poppy kind of thing going on. - Right. - But it's also really straight forward. To me, it almost sounds like origami angel meets like glow on era turnstice. - Yeah. - In a way. - Yeah, I get that. Yeah, I hear that a little bit, yeah. And also like, yeah, especially like when they have like those kind of like psychedelic like ♪ Durnin, dunin, dunin, dunin, dunin ♪ or like that kind of thing in the guitar riff. Like in that bridge and shit too. Like, yeah, that was, that, that, that's really sick. And like, like, dunin, dunin, dunin, dunin, dunin, dunin, dunin. It's, I really appreciate how they don't hang out on that riff for too long. 'Cause like, yeah. - Personally, I would love to hear more of that riff, but they play it just enough to where you're like, the next time it comes in, you're like, oh shit, there's that part again. Like, it's back. - Yeah, it's sick, it's so sick. And grants vocals, just holy shit. It's incredible. - They're so energetic. Like, you can tell that like, the energy comes through, I think, really well. - That's one of the things that I really like about this too, is that it is very loud type of stuff. But there are three pieces that arranges their music like a three piece. - Yeah. - Like, it's very clearly, there's one guitar riff going on, there's one bass part, and then there's the drum part. And it's not super complex, but there's like something about that like, simplicity that you're able to just like, absolutely crank everything to 11. - Yeah. - And it just, it just goes absolutely bonkers. And I, I love it. I think it's great. - Hell fucking yes. Yeah, that was, yeah, I love "Hart to Gold" so much. "Hart to Gold" be on the lookout for their new record. It's gonna be fantastic. All the singles have been great. So everyone go listen to those. Yeah, "Hart to Gold" - Yeah, I was trying to, trying to snoop around on their social media to see if I could find any sort of release date or anything, but it's all been about the singles so far. There's no official announcement of the album. - Maybe I just made that up. I don't know. That could just be dropping singles. I thought for some of the, it could make coming out of the record. - Yeah, right, either way, like hell yeah. - All right, so my final song of the, the morning, 'cause it is still morning at this point, this is a more like old school kind of hardcore type of band. They're called "Sunstreek" from Nashville, Tennessee. And I found them because they, this is their debut EP and it was released to tape through Outcast Tape and Firmary. - Okay. - Who do absolutely incredible stuff. They've spent a lot of different like styles, but like the heavy stuff that they've been putting out recently, they put out this band, they put out a band called Soul Sacrifice, which are kind of like more old school style, like metalcore. - Okay. - Back when it was like more metal and hardcore, as opposed to like kind of, you know, the metalcore boom that kind of became like more pop mixed with metal, but that also has breakdowns. You know, the old school style like that. - Yeah. - But they've been doing some really cool stuff with a lot of really cool bands. Like I said, this is from Sunstreek's debut EP, A Hazardous Existence, which came out also on September 6th. A lot of this stuff all came out on the same day, which is really interesting. - Hell yeah. - And this song is called "Copwebs". (upbeat music) ♪ I knew so much drugs ♪ ♪ I was away in the wind ♪ ♪ Don't have much of that shit left ♪ ♪ That I prefer again ♪ ♪ But they can't wait until they think I'm dead ♪ ♪ Nothing you can show you to me ♪ ♪ Time's paid for by your loyalty ♪ ♪ That I'm what I am right ♪ ♪ Baby can't wait ♪ It's a living affair, nothing you can say to me I'm taking it, I'm taking it, I'm taking it Seconds, one by you, I'm taking it, come on Rockdown, take it, take it, you take it Apple If I see you, long enough Watch your smile, it's yours I've been fighting for you, I've been fighting for you I've been fighting for you, I've been fighting for you I've been fighting for you, I've been fighting for you Get a small boy, get a simple disloyal We're gonna school We're gonna school, we're gonna school, we're gonna school, we're gonna school Let me win! Let me win! Let me win! Let me win! Let me win! If I can win! If I can win! You're watching! If I can win again! Rockdown, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it, take it! That was, I didn't think you meant like old school I didn't realize you meant like old like. Yeah! That was like some suicide tendencies type shit Like that was sick Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, like old school, old school type of hardcore, which is so much fun It is Like hearing that all, like I think the production really matches it well Yes It's not super slick, modern type stuff The sounds of the era of like that old school stuff Which I think is so cool That was really cool And also like the vocals were so with that era too Like the. No, no, no, no Like that kind of delivery was like so common I feel like like back then, but not so much anymore Yeah, you know? And so like that was sick That was really sick And that. They had like that groove switch on nowhere That like. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh That like came out of that triple part Like what the fuck? Like that was really sick I don't even know how to like follow that part Because I was like. I was like. The accents almost don't line up It's like controlled chaos Because very clearly they are in the pocket together Right They don't know where the hell that pocket is It's like, it's like they went off of the metronome But all together as a unit, you know? Which I feel like is also like a thing they hear a lot with that sort of era of like Older, earlier hardcore stuff too Is that like the bands are constantly falling apart together somehow, you know? Yeah, it sounds like a live off the floor recording Yeah It doesn't sound like they're playing to a click It sounds like you put, you know, three dudes in a room Set up some mics and just fucking, you know, went balls to the wall Yeah Which, yeah, that was sick That was crazy how well they channeled that feeling of like And that sound of like the early hardcore stuff That was really fucking sick Who do you think it was? Sun? This is a band called Sun Street Sun Street from Nashville, Tennessee This is their first EP, they released one single before it And another thing that I really like about it is Vocally, you kind of talked about like that older kind of style of vocal delivery I like how I think they have two vocalists and I like the way that they play off of each other Yeah Where it's like one has kind of this thing and then there's the more like a like fry scream That's what I was going to say like the more modern like Yeah, like that's really sick Yeah, we're kind of getting best at both worlds with that I think It's really dope Yeah, it's like old school meets like a little bit of like more modern type stuff Like kind of together and I think that that's so neat Also, we need more to lead vocalist bands I think we need more of those I think it's so especially when they both do like kind of different kinds of harsh vocals Yeah, it just sounds like two dudes just screaming at each other Yes, like that blood brothers type deal where you know like Oh, this is the one and this is the other one, you know, it's really cool Yeah, it's really sick Like I'm imagining them playing live sharing a microphone just shouting Yeah, yeah, that was really fucking awesome, fuck yeah You're playing in a venue that doesn't have enough mics so you just have to Oh, we've been there before we've been there before Oh, yeah, so how are we closing this off? What are we ending on? I hope we've got a This was my panel got a very strong final This is my panic pick because for some reason I had four repaired Which one was this one? You had maybe that truck hit me and this is all a dream Oh, oh, I got it anyway Okay, listen like everyone knows that way Everyone knows everyone loves that way Great band, the huge fucking home is everyone loves double bind So we played with M-way even before about that beer Iodia came out Oh really? Yeah, I think they had only had in the test chamber out like the single version And so like we had no idea who they were before we played with them And we played with them in this church basement in Wisconsin I think it was my dissing if I remember Milwaukee Somewhere around there Because they are Wisconsin best Yeah, yeah And as soon as they started playing like the fucking whole It was like a hardcore show Like Kyle was shirtless, it was sweaty as fuck Everyone was like mosh like crazy, everyone knew the words so basically all of M-way songs It was crazy because they didn't have anything recorded yet It was off the chain And ever since that moment I was like What? It's like we want to tour with that band like not too long after that And we in June we went on a tour with Enzwell, which shares Kyle of M-way And you know we saw M-way at Coachella I got to be on a song on double bind which was really when Kyle asked me I was almost like brought to tears so excited like And Yeah, that side stage Coachella performance That's the only time that I've seen them live But that was absolutely amazing Were you at that Coachella? Yeah, this past summer Yeah, that's so sick I had no idea I would have said hello to you if I had known But yeah, that was really awesome That holy shit, that side stage Coachella show was crying I almost cried Like it was intense Like everyone was in it Like there was so much love packed into that room Like everyone knew the worst like every single song they had And like the pit was crazy Side stage goes off dude Like no matter who was playing Because it was like you know I saw M-way there We saw Red Sun played Because I think it was back to back to back Was Red Sun M-way in Garden Home Which was like such a crazy like string of bands To have back to back the fucking thumbs up records power hour So fucking dope Yeah, that was absolutely killer That was absolutely incredible Yeah, incredible band Y'all know it, y'all love it I believe Tyler from the stars, how low is on this one? Is that correct? Uh, yes Okay, I believe so Hell yeah That's not no thing I love about DobleBind Is that like got like a bunch of homies on the album And I really appreciate that, that's something that I want Hey Lovey to do going forward Is get a fuck to know homies to feature on some tracks Um, I think that would be incredible, they have That's something that I find interesting is like feature culture Quote on Clote Is like I feel like we're getting to the point in like a lot of like pop And like uh, like hip hop type music Where I feel like there's almost too many features Like like even the like the main artist It's their song and they get a verse Yes They've got a feature for the chorus They've got a feature for verse two They've got a feature for verse three So like I feel like that is kind of like Has swung out too far Yes And needs to come back a little bit But I think it's really cool like in rock music And like DIY and like that kind of stuff We're kind of starting to hit like What I think is like kind of the perfect threshold of features Where you have like a couple on an album That makes sense for that specific song You're not trying to like pat out the feature list Because I feel like that's a big part of it Is like you're trying to cast a wide net You're like oh well if somebody likes this then Then they'll come to my song If somebody likes that then they'll come to my song Right I feel like I feel like feature culture For this type of music is a lot cooler Because it always feels like it is a song That makes sense for the vocalist to be on Right Yeah I agree And I really want to dip my feet into that Going forward I want to dip our feet into that I don't know One thing I will say that was like Just hate how it looks when there's like a song title And then in parentheses feet the next artist I hate that, I don't know why I just hate that in song title So I really appreciate that like on like Spotify At least like you can just like put like you know It'll say like excuse me who are you calm up It's almost like a co-release with the other artist And as opposed to it being in the song title You know like I really appreciate that Because I don't know I just look so ugly to me I don't know I've never been really into that But yeah, I'm in it Sad I am way stars hollow Stars hollow was a really fucking like big band I think for me and a bunch of my friends And so like when we got to meet stars hollow We were like Um That was very cool And when they got put on like the It's actually kind of crazy because M-Way, I think in their earlier years, I always say earlier years, they've been around for that long and they haven't. But they used to cover, it's only been like two or three years. They used to cover a Star's Hollow song in their live set. I believe it was Tadpole, but they used to cover. And so when I saw that Tyler was on this song, I was like, "Fuckin' perfect." You know, that's awesome, that's so incredible. - All right, let's go. - Let's go! [Music] Welcome in its own twits, into the house, name is D.C.O.P.R.D. Great body of an after-dactor, and all I wanted to inform it was actors. Remember my thing, all the 4D, all the eyes we've made, all the late night, when we were trying for hours. But that's who we used to be, when you were with me. I thought you, I thought you, the one through night, and you're perfect. Every time I dream of you, I wish I'd won something new. So when you turn up again, like you die, we're never bad. If I counted all the fucking times, I'd later make a run, with you by my side. The least I can see, I can try. This life is great. I'm warning to my best. This life is great, but you tell me what that is. I'm afraid I might hold you again. I'm afraid. I don't think that you would think that that was the type of vocal that would go on a song like this. It's heavy and it's kind of like this, like this, like math chord type of thing almost. It's a very interesting combination of that type of music with that type of vocal style. That type of vocal style, I always think of more like hardcore like screamo heavier type shit. And this is almost like Midwest emo with like the screamo vocals on it. It makes it kind of hard to classify, doesn't it? Because I remember someone was like online on Twitter. Yeah, you know, my favorite, one of my favorite screamo bands is M1. And I was like, what? Screamo? I don't know. It makes it hard to classify. Definitely. Vocally, it's kind of in that in that range. Yeah, like musically, not really. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like if they were just like just an instrumental band, like they would be called Math Rock. I feel like for sure. But then like, you know, you get like these vocals and you're like, whoa, yeah, it's like, it's really sick. It's super dope. And they groove crazy too. Like if you're paying attention to like the time feel of everything, like there's so much in the pocket type shit that like it's incredible. Part in that song where they, the guitar starts doing the harmonic like they do, I'm like, oh, yeah. It's really so incredible. It's, uh, I was like full of that. Yeah. And the other thing that I think is really interesting about them as a band too is that both of their projects that they've put out at this point have samples from a specific piece of media that kind of tie it together. They're not necessarily concept albums as far as like what the songs are about, but they use these samples to like create a world because this one uses, uses samples from what is it? Perfect blue. I think it's what it's called, which is an anime movie from the 90s that I still keep meaning to see. Little aside, I found out that it's on Amazon Prime and I bought it and then I found out that they only had the sub diversion. And I specifically wanted to watch it in English because I wanted to hear the samples from the album. And so I'm like, I got to find a new way to find that. But yeah, they did the perfect blue samples in this one, which is also where they got double blind the title from as well. And then the first one is that about a beer I owed you? Yes. Which is all half life quotes, I believe. And it's kind of sick to you because like you're right. They're not, they're not really concept albums or anything. But it's kind of interesting because like sometimes the samples will like play into the song like in about that beer I owed you. They have that sample where they're like, so about that beer I owed you. And then it's like, I think about it all the time. And I like to admit that like they like kind of like when Kyle says, I think about all the time, they're talking about the beer that they owe that they owe this person, you know, signifying signifying their time with this person. You know, it's cool. It's really cool. It's really interesting. And the fact that they pull it off live is very cool too. Yeah, I think they use like a sample pad or something like that for all that. Which I think they're so in tune with it. Yeah, it's because it's built into the music. It's not like there are some people who will use like samples and stuff like that. But it's always like always at the beginning or always at the end of a song. And so it's like you play it live. You don't necessarily need that. It's almost like a transition area like little thing. But like they can include it. They include these samples within the song as like a musical element. Like, yes. Yeah, the first track on this album is just called M-way and it's got the excuse me, who are you that just loose over and over? And that's like a part of the song. It's not like a little transition element. That is like a part of the song that continues to loop and they like build around. It's all baked in. Yeah, it's so sick. It's so incredible. Yeah, incredible band, incredible homies. Stu's guitar playing. So good. Killer. So good. So sick. Yeah. Fucking love those homies. Records great. It's fucking awesome. Hell yeah. All right. So I think that that's probably a good place to, good place to end the episode on. Do you have anything else that you want to say at the very end before we sign off? At the end of any of you is always like a shout out as many bands as I can. Just in case anyone. So shout out all the bands that we played today. Every single song was fucking awesome. Shout out Lonely Ghost Records. Shout out my brains now where it's too related really think of any bands. But shout out the rest of my band members who could not be here today. And yeah, I hope that everyone has a pleasant October and hell yeah. Make sure to make sure to make sure to check out. Hey, I love you's new album. Hey, I love you coming out on October 25th. And this has been the Fresh Finds podcast to show about discovering new music with good people. 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