Favorite 'Parks and Rec' Memories

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And please know, there are more coming. In fact, a little teaser, we do have Nick Offerman joining us in season two of this podcast. If there are seasons in podcasts, we are insisting there are. And so you're going to hear from all of these people today. And the reason why we're doing these clip shows is because I am finishing up shooting a new show for Peacock. called Dig with my buddy Mike Schur, who, as we all know, created Parks and Rec. So let's kick off this episode by hearing from Mike Schur first. This episode of Good Hang is presented by Subaru. Some cars go the extra mile. Long range Subaru hybrids take that to a whole new level with up to 597 miles per tank. In the Crosstrek Hybrid, a car that I've given my family, and up to 581 miles per tank in the Forester Hybrid, another car that I also enjoy. Subaru, love goes the extra mile. Visit Subaru.com slash hybrid to learn more. Range based on EPA estimated combined fuel economy and full tank of fuel. Actual mileage and range may vary. ♪ Get up, what do you say? ♪ ♪ All right ♪ ♪ I'm the one who was a really good hang ♪ In the very, very beginning, the idea for the spinoff of The Office, or was it even an idea for spinoff, was what? Well, so Ben Silverman- What became Parks and Rec? Ben Silverman was running NBC, and he asked Greg to do a spinoff. And so Greg's response, typically thoughtful and considered, was, I would love to do another show. If the best idea that I have for a show is a spinoff, then I will do a spinoff. If the best idea I have is something else, I'll do something else. Greg is a real, one of the main things that he gave me in terms of how to do this job is, best idea wins. Doesn't matter who it comes from, if it's staff writer or a 25-year veteran co-EP or a person who works in costumes or whatever, best idea wins. That's it. And there is no corollary to that. In every situation that you're in creatively, best idea wins. And so that's what he said, basically, to Ben. And he was like, it's very important to me that you understand that if the best idea I have is not a spinoff of The Office, then we're going to do something else. And Ben was like, totally hear you, buddy. And the next day in the variety, he was like, Office spinoff is coming. Ben just totally ignored him and just announced an Office spinoff. Sure. So Greg and I started meeting. Greg asked me to do it with him. So we started meeting. We would go to Norm's Diner in the Valley like twice a week for breakfast. And we would just think of ideas. And we would talk about what interested us and what was going on. And we would inch down a little path and then hit a dead end and then inch back. And we would, we just met constantly over showing your work. We met all the time forever. And eventually came up with the idea of like, you know, and by the way, just to say it, some of the ideas we talked about were Office spinoffs. They were like Craig Robinson and Rainn Wilson and all these people on the show who could clearly be in their own show. So we talked about, family shows with them or whatever. Greg was, I think, wary of taking assets away from a show that was very successful in part because of its large, rich cast. We stumbled upon this idea of like, okay, Dunder Mifflin on The Office is a fake company and it's a way to satirize the private sector. What if we create a whole fake town and satirize the public sector? And as we're having that idea, the world economy goes kablooey and they're talking about like massive government bailouts. And we start to realize that like the government, obviously federal really, but also state and local was like going to be very present in people's lives. Like people were going to be like looking to the government for help. So we started getting excited about that. I had this idea for an abandoned lot that would be turned into a park over the course of the entire run of the show. Very wirey idea. I was obsessed with the wire as were you. Yeah, we share that. And I thought like the way that the wire, portrayed like calcified systems and how slow gears grind and stuff was fascinating to me. And I thought it would be really funny where if you did a show that ideally lasts for a long time and in the pilot, it's like, we're going to do this. And then it literally doesn't get done until the very end of like nine years later. So that was the idea that I really liked. Greg then was like, what if it's not a lot? What if there's like a giant hole in the ground? What if it's a pit? And I was like, that's so much better. And so that idea of all the 73 ideas we had started to like fizzle out. And it obviously is not a spinoff of The Office. And Greg, true to his word, was like, this is what we want to do. At some point, we called you because we heard you were leaving. And you were like, I'm theoretically interested in this. Let me know. The show was given a guaranteed 13 episode order, which now is very commonplace at the time was like insane. And The Office was going to be on after the Super Bowl that year. And this show was going to launch. And this show was going to launch after The Office. Then you called us back and said, actually, sorry, Prego. That's exactly what you said. Yeah, I said Prego. You said Prego. Prego. I sent you a telegraph. I said, Prego, stop. Show's off, stop. And it was like, well, you're going to give birth like the week we have to shoot this, so no go. And then like, I remember very clearly two weeks later, I went into Greg's office and I was like, you know, there's no, like we had, we were working on the show at that point pretty strenuous. And I was just like, I just don't think there's anyone but Polar who can do this. And he was like, I had the same thought last night. And very quickly, we made a phone call to NBC and said, if we can get Amy for this, we will give up seven of the 13 guaranteed episodes because we'd only be able to make six. Dang. And give up the Super Bowl slot. Well, you guys, I'm so appreciative you did that. I mean, the thing was, it was actually a very simple decision because we were like, you know, getting Amy Polar on your show is a long-term decision. Like that's a, that's a decision you make for like this, what you hope will be a very long chunk of time. Like the Super Bowl slot is a short-term decision. It's like, yeah, you'll get this like frisson of energy, but like it doesn't last. Like no one ever, like very rarely does that determine the fate of a TV show. And so we then called you back and said, what if you could start shooting three months after you give birth? And then we made the show. And it proved to be the most satisfying creative experience I've ever had. And I like- More than this podcast? No, this is my number one. Number two, it's number two. Yeah, this is, I mean, besides this. Now, one of the ways, like very concrete ways that is, I feel like an example of what I'm talking about, which is like the joy in the details is the way you like to name characters. Yeah. And I think you gave me, I think you allowed me to use this in my book actually, but you gave me like a list of possible names instead of Leslie Knope, the character. I played on Parks and Rec. Like you gave me like a bunch of different alternative names. But you also love to name characters left and right. What is it, what is fun about names for you and naming? Okay, so it's two things. The first is growing up, first major comedic influence, Monty Python. Monty Python, experts at silly, stupid names, like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them. You can go look them up in their sketches. But the actual, the actual thing, what's going on here is different. So I would go to actors IMDB pages to see what they had been in when we were casting them in the early days of the show. And you would see like woman number two or like man in crowd or guy with sandwich. And it really bummed me out. That person like auditioned for this and booked this gig and drove all the way across town and like put on fake clothes and put on makeup and whatever and had to stand in a certain place, follow a million instructions, say a line or two, and then they yelled cut. And then that person drove all the way home and they got paid like $600 for like a week's worth of work. And they should be, there should be something better than man number two or man in crowd. And so I decided at that moment, this is early in season one, I think of Parks and Rec, that every character who appeared on the show was going to have a first and last name. So when you saw instead of, if it says man in crowd, you're like, oh, well that, it doesn't really count as an acting gig. But if you see Marv, The Vavma. which is a name I gave a character once. You're like, who the hell is Marva Vavma? What was Marva Vavma up to? So I, and it has been, it started with that intention and has become one of the great, truly one of the great joys of my life is to give every, because here's the other thing, sorry, you can cut all this out. But the other thing is, if you name a character Jack Smith, you can get away with it because there are 10 trillion Jack Smiths. But if you name a character anything even mildly interesting, like Winona Cooper, there's going to be like four Winona Coopers in the state that you're setting the show in. And then the legal comes back and says, you can't name a character that. A lot of people don't know that. You have to get names cleared. You have to be cleared. And there have to be either none or so many that not any one of them could be, could think that you're saying anything about them. So I go for none. Yeah, I go for the weirdest names. We had a character recently on the show on A Man on the Inside named Ophelia Papipapepe. There's no Ophelia Papipapepe anywhere in the continental United States. So you get to use that name. That has been my goal is to have none, have the Google search come up empty with every name of every character. Okay, with that in mind, will you please read some of these names that you have invented? Yeah. Like just a few here on the bottom of this page. Okay. Mona Lisa Saperstein. Yes. Jenny Slate's character. Yes. Do you remember all these do you think? Amazing. Trod Frankenstipe. Okay, tell us about Trod. So Trod Frankenstipe was a local reporter or he had a like almost like a little show like this in Pawnee where he would interview political people like Leslie Knope. A great way to come up with a name that doesn't exist is to take a normal name like Todd and then just stick another letter in there somewhere. Trod. And then Frankenstipe is just Frankenstein with a P at the end. Tyrion Fonzarelli. Tyrion Fonzarelli. Obviously a combination of two characters from TV history. Tyrion Lannister and Arthur Fonzarelli. This name goes to Matt Murray. Matt Murray did this. Ah, Panther. Yeah, Panther. Tyrion Fonzarelli was a A writer on Parks and Rec among other things. Was a guy in a jewelry store who was buying an engagement ring for his to be betrothed when Anne and Chris Traeger were shopping for rings. Great. Leslie Knope. Yep. Gretzky, Susan Pellegrino. Okay. This, so Gretzky, Susan Pellegrino was like the fourth in a series of names that for some reason all involved the last name of the greatest hockey player who ever lived, Wayne Gretzky. Yeah. I don't offhand remember who Gretzky, Susan Pellegrino is. Also, it should be noted, hyphens, huge part of my naming process. Yeah, so exciting. It's a way to get another name in there. Another name and also there's no way that someone's going to have this name. No one's first name. The first name is Gretzky, Susan. Gretzky, hyphen, Susan. Typhoon Montalban. Oh, I love Typhoon. Typhoon was Donna's hairdresser. Yep. Typhoon, also Matt Murray, I believe named, gave Typhoon the first name Typhoon. We needed a last name. Where do you go for the last name? Ricardo Montalban. Typhoon Montalban. Sassandra Sassasnorp. Okay. Sassandra Sassasnorp was, I believe, I could have this wrong, was just, it was like Sandra Snorp. Okay. And then legally, Google was like, didn't clear. We found a Sandra Snorp somewhere. We found a Sandra Snorp. So guess what you do? You add five more S's, now you're good. Sandra. To Sandra Sassasnorp. Summer Ole Kraken Frog Frong. Okay. This is a Monty Python ripoff, straight up. Okay. Ole, O-L-E with an accent and I guess just that part. In, there's a Monty Python sketch called, I think, Election Night Special where they're just going through election results in local elections all over the country. And there's, there's a silly party and a sensible party. So all the people in the sensible party have names like John Smith and all the people in the silly party have very crazy names. And there's also a very silly party and a slightly silly party. It's, if you want names, go watch that sketch. It'll, it'll, it'll, it'll sate you. That's a good one. Frog Frong is a great last name. Great one. Yeah. Okay. So do you think some of your best acting was in Parks and Rec when you had to pretend that you didn't know who Genuine was? You know, it's, it's still one of my biggest complaints. I remember we did the table read for that and I was like, no, no, no one's going to buy it because I don't buy it. Okay. Pick anybody else on this cast to, to try to play that in an honest way. It is so unfair that you're making me do this. It really, yeah, it still hurts. Because how, how, how familiar are you with Genuine? We were married. Genuine. I mean, you know, I live in 90s R&B. That's where my heart is. It's not here. I mean, it is with you, but for the most part, it's not present. It's in 90s R&B. So he's a very important figure. Yeah. I feel like we've had some hard-ass laughs. And I was trying to think the other day, like, places that we've laughed, deep laughs. And it really does add years to my life. I know that. And I wonder if you could tell the story about when we were on Parks and it was, because we talk about it. We've talked about it before. When we were on Parks and it was the first season, it was the hunting episode. And just to kind of set up, we were shooting that whole week way far away somewhere in California, you know, I don't even remember where. And we had to do a scene with Nick Offerman. And that, I think about it sometimes, the way that laugh came, it was like, it was giggle, giggle, orgasm city. But, but, but, don't worry, we'll cut that. But, but, what do you remember about it? What do you want? Well, I remember we were, he maybe ate something weird and we were trying to give him Ipecac. Isn't that what it was? So Nick Offerman playing Ron Swanson ate something weird. Something, yeah, I don't remember actually what happened in the show. Isn't that funny? I was like determined as a nurse, I was like, you have to throw up. Like, you can't. Right. You're going to get sick. And he's like, I'm fine. Right. And I, we were trying to get this like liquid in his mouth. And, you know, it's Hollywood. So things that happen like on camera don't actually happen in real life. So it was written that we like hold him down and he's resisting us and we give him this, this thing. But, like, you don't know, you don't know how small you are because I think both of us, like, I'm always like, I'm like a tall person, right? Like I ask people if I feel tall. But I'm not. And I'm not. How tall are you? Five, three and a half. Yeah. Yeah. I'm five two. And Nick is solid. Yeah. He's a solid dude. Yeah. He's like a Midwestern corn fed dude. Dense and like, and muscular. And he, we were trying to hold him down and he was, whipping us around with such ease. Like, we couldn't, we actually, the both of us could not hold him down and he was like, literally he would just go, beep, and we would just fly off the bed in each direction. We could not stop laughing. One of us, we each had one arm. Yeah. And he would, it felt like just the flick of a wrist and we would fly across the room. Because he was being gentle. He was being gentle. Yeah. He wasn't, he was doing like stage resist. He wasn't fighting for his life. Yeah. No. No. And we could not get him to stay down. Could not. Could not. And I, I remember that feeling. Also, I think there's something fun about wrestling. Like, there is. So good. It's so good. And being thrown around is so fun. Yes. And he was throwing us around and I feel like I just, like if I was to picture it in my mind, you were just like, wee! Like I could just see you going past me and your hair going, why? And then your legs going, wee! And me, and me, and I just remember like, Rashida! Like, I've never seen you flying by, which can't be true. I feel like we were tumbling all over the floor. Like, every time we got back on the bed, we were like, and we were, we were kind of like, in each, we were both trying to be like on top of him and then like, just flipping over really quickly. And I think too, because Nick is such a lovely, gentle guy in general, we knew, there was something about us that knew we weren't going to get hurt. It was safe. It was safe, yeah. But he was making like grunting bear sounds. It was really, really, really. It was really fun. That was a really, I mean, I'm trying to think of like, there's so many good, good crack-up moments. Crack-up moments. I'm 100 years old. What a crack-up. But, I'm just like, I was like, There's that spot in, in Andy and April's house, remember, where we could never get a scene done? Just that one, that living room. There's a dead spot. Yeah. Yeah. It was haunted. Yeah. And then I remember there was one time you were like, Rashida! Because I could not get through it. But I really, it felt like haunted. It did not feel like it was my fault. Yeah. I'm sorry I said that. There was, a couple times I would see bloopers for the show and I'd be like, Amy. No, but those days were so long. They were. They were long. And it was fun until it wasn't. You're like, oh my God, it's dead. We just want to go home. I know. And the, and there was a scene for people that care. There was, there was a spot in that, on that set where anyone who stood there couldn't get their lines. And then of course it became self-fulfilling prophecy in many ways. But there was just a lot of deep laughs and deep, and deep laughs off camera. Like one of the things, one of the things I treasure, and there's so much so many things I treasure about my friendship with you was that we would be talking like this and we'd be just talking and talking and just like talking about our day and talking about life and then they would just go action and then we would just talk like Leslie and Ann and we'd do our scene and be like we kind of I'll speak for myself kind of knew it kind of didn't right and then they'd then they'd cut they'd work on it and we would just go back to talking like it was like a dream job we filmed in between our conversations yeah and also I think I remember very clearly in the pilot because we had already been friends for years when we shot the pilot and they were doing one of those spy shots and we were in your office and we were talking and it was like you know other people were like oh this is great like this is a thing that really works their friendship we're really going to be able to sell it we're like uh duh no kidding what do you mean I mean they really did base the entire show at the end of the day on the fact that Leslie and Ann you were you know each other's number one yeah yeah not hard to do no and what I mean we've talked about this before but we when we first started the show I think it was like it was kind of like we were trying to figure out who was going to play what part and who was going to come on board and um and kind of like the beginnings of that show were I'll say a little clumsy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy the beginning of that show were I'll say a little clumpy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy crunchy can we talk about it yeah I'd love to oh my god yeah it was because I think for I don't think a lot of people know this for the beginning I think we both were worried that we had taken each other's part like yes yeah so so I had been on hold for this untitled thing yeah that was gonna that Greg and Mike were gonna write right and I had done a year on the office and they let me go which made sense it was it was a lot of work but I was like I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do this I'm it made sense I was you had such a tough job there because yeah everybody wanted Jim and Pam and then guess who shows up a very likable cool and everyone was like oh no wait that's love Karen it did not feel that way people did not like me like fans were not about it but they had to create tension for the relationship to be earned later so I was the third point in the triangle it's fine I like accept it but anyway so Mike was like we're working on this other show I'll put you on hold we don't know what it is yet remember people thought it was like a spin-off of the office for a second but anyway so they kept like kind of decide like changing the the care the main characters of the show when they pitch it to me the boss was a was a guy and they didn't know if they were gonna cast me or not but I remember you were extremely pregnant yeah we'd just gotten back from Italy you and I were in Italy yeah that's right we were in Italy and it was very hot that's right and a day later you were like let's go to lunch I need to talk to you about something do you remember where we went pasties yes I do New York City I do oh god and I said let's talk about something yeah and you say no no no you and I was like I want you to raise this baby with me it's yours this baby is I know that's impossible and you need to accept it um but you know I actually hold this this moment as like a gold standard of friendship and being able to take care of your oneself and the person that you love at the same time I really do polos because it was what you did and how you did it was very hard because you took me to lunch and said I'm so sorry but they offered me the part both of us thinking it was the same part I was on hold for being created by a friend of ours and so I immediately started crying in pasties and you held my hand and you were so warm and you were so there was something about it where you were like I know I'm sorry buddy but you also you didn't like do the thing that I sometimes do where I'm codependent where I'm like I know I suck I'm the worst person I don't even deserve it like whatever I would say to try to make the other person feel better which doesn't work you didn't do that you like held your space and you also comforted me at the same time which was like a very beautiful thing I wonder what sure's version of this is let me tell you okay I left him a message almost immediately because I'm not shy I was and I was like oh I'm such an idiot for thinking I could even be on the show like anybody wants me on this show of course I didn't get this like Amy is like a you know oh my god what a mean part of yourself very mean very mean we that's a that's a person we're trying to um to not invite to the dinner party anymore but um so I called him I was like hey would love to talk to you he was on a plane and he landed he's like uh I was like you want to you want to tell me what's going on because it would have been really nice for you to tell me and not Amy to tell me that I wasn't getting this job and he's like no no no back up we changed the boss it's a and Amy's playing the boss I was like you oh my god like we might be working together yeah it kind of went from oh no to oh my god we might be the two women on the show and I still wasn't cast because I still had to do a bunch of chemistry reads after that but but that became you know this huge possibility of like my life being the best from the worst to the best god I'm sweating even thinking about that he wasn't they had they just hadn't decided things and they they were trying to build around you I think is what happened around that character so I think they had just done that and I think you wanted to tell me as soon as possible yeah because we were so close yeah which was the right instinct and Mike decided to get on a plane which was his instinct and he just flew for hours he just he just went to different cities and he never got off the plane and that's what execs do that's what a powerful person does is they get on the plane they just get on as many things as possible my phone was off your little zizi's all grown up I know my zizi is just he's an old man now I know if you watch if whenever I see old parks things I was like I didn't know that me and Aubrey did a show and we were little kids like it's really how old were you when you started I was 13 and then when we finished I just turned 18 I got my driver's license like in the middle of the run a lot of people don't know that you were 18 when you were playing Tom Haverford on Parks and Rec yeah it is true though it is you you look like a baby you were a baby I didn't know anything yeah in the first seasons I I didn't know how to act or anything I should not have been on television NBC should be like we gotta get is there any Indian guy that's done more acting a lot of people don't know you were the first person hired for parks uh yeah I met with them yeah what was that meeting like do you remember it well it was so mysterious what they're up to yeah I had a meeting with them and I told them I don't know what you're doing but whatever it is that would be a dream job and um and you know this was like when the office was on and Mike and Greg were both involved in that and that was you know my favorite show like that on the air and and so I told them whatever you're up to let me know and then of course you know when it all came together with you and Rashida and everything and well I'm kind of learning I when I was talking to Plaza when Plaza was here she was talking about like her meeting with them too yeah yeah very famous stories yeah yeah I know and it's kind of funny I kind of forgot the Avengers assemble feeling of those guys going out and and getting people and bringing them in and and talking about like we're gonna do something very cool I mean it what it didn't even feel like there was a ton of auditioning it was more just them picking people that they thought was funny not only funny and I I feel like all of us whenever each other do interviews kind of say this kind of stuff ad nauseam but it's so true but also just the best people I've ever met in my life yeah like really I cannot believe it because we've all done other stuff and you know not everybody's you know look we've all done other stuff I don't talk about everything the way I talk about parks you know you do something some people it's just your energy not necessarily mean or bad but just something like we all just clicked and there was a vibe to you and Mike you know when I did master none with Alan and as I become a director I you know what I learned from you and Mike in terms of how to lead um I mean I can't thank you enough it was the best role model I could ever have sees let me see if you can guess how many times how many episodes of parks you did do you do would you know to guess I would say between 7 and 13 10 10 okay it's kind of right between that's amazing but it was such a huge impact on my life like it's still the thing I get most recognized for really yes and I just remember well first of all you were the most incredible number one on a call sheet because you had dance parties at lunch every day and anybody that walked on that like set just was filled with such confidence and such joy which is I had the greatest time on that show I have such I don't have the greatest that's where we kind of fell in love but that is that's really Catherine where we I think actually met my first kind of like real memory is in the trailer of parks and rec and we used to Catherine is talking about dance parties and we used to do a thing where just like after lunch we would play three songs best the great autumn butler our makeup artist had great taste in music and we would just kind of dance around for two or three songs yeah the best I think for me a way to honestly just keep my energy up yeah but it became a way to meet people in the trailer and I remember two things I love about you right away. How much you love to laugh. People that know you know that. I do. You love to laugh. If someone's going to break in a scene, it's this professional over here. You know. Do you think you break a lot? I have to be really serious in my mind. Like if I have, because if it starts to happen, it is tears. Yeah. And mucus. But you, I have seen you in bloopers and you're hanging in. Yeah, I do hang in. You hang in. I do. Yeah. You, in fact, go in harder, I think. I think I have to. I know it's a survival technique. I just have to dig in a little bit. I do. I go harder. I feel like every time I've done a scene with you, you are so good at improvising. In fact, like a lot of your character on Parks and Rec, Jen Barkley's moments were improvised. Were they really? Well, one of the favorites, one of TikTok and memes and GIFs and GIFs. Poncho? Is Poncho. Yeah, Poncho was. So let's talk about what happened. For people that have never seen that, what is it? Tell us what that scene was. Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house. I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my character. I'm the first person. Well, for people that aren't watching, she just transformed. I just transformed. Her eyes turned dark and she's a completely different person. A lot more hairspray. I went to their house. They have children. I am not into children at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I wouldn't get any skin. I wore a plastic poncho. Sticky fingers are crap all over me. And at some point, the kids rush by with paint, nail me with the paint, and at some take, just to make you guys laugh, I don't even, did not have any idea it was going to be any, I just swung my arms open and went, Poncho! Poncho! And that really has me kind of making a thing. It's like Batman's cape. I mean. Oh, that was the best. Like, I just wanted to make you guys laugh and just having so, the energy was so loose. So I like, it's funny you say that but I'm realizing, again, I can do it if I know who I am and like the given circumstances and like that, I feel like, I feel really free in that department, but just. Well, you know how like we, we were on set a lot and I would watch you work and I would say the same thing about Adam and I wonder too if it's because of your, both of your training, but I would watch the way you two worked and you would have a moment where we, you'd say, really, really loose and, but just right before the scene and I can think of a couple of scenes, the great scene where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie, no, basically, you know, you have to start. Oh. You have to start thinking bigger, which is a huge moment in the show. I love the writing in that scene. Oh my God, that scene. Mike Schur and the writers, like, I just love how they slowly took care of Leslie and they sent people in to give her these messages and Jen Barkley is just this like, Gen X ball buster. Yes. Who, who kind of sees something that Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment when you're giving that speech, I remember very clearly right before the scene, you just took a moment and I think we joked about it later because I, I was like, it was like watching, it was watching a real actor. Oh God. You were on Parks and Rec. You only did five episodes. Do you know that? I know. But you played a character that stood the test of time. I mean, I mean, if only, if only we had Bobby Newport, just a guy who wants to be liked. Yeah. And who. I know, if only, right? I mean, Bobby at the time. Means well, just doesn't quite grasp any of it. He wants to go to the after party. Yeah. Bobby Newport, played by you, was like the rich son of the Sweetums family. The family, the Newports that owned the big factory in the fictional town of Pawnee that Parks and Rec took place and Bobby Newport ran against Leslie and it was like what Bobby had that Leslie could never get was that gee whiz, like I can't believe I fell into this. Like I just want to have a good time, you guys. Yeah. I think that's even a line that that's how Bobby feels about abortion. Oh yeah, right. What did he say about abortion? I guess my thoughts on abortion are just like, I want everybody to have a good time. I just want everybody to have a good time. I mean, come on, guys. What? And Bobby kept getting flustered by Leslie wanting it because he wants it. Like there's that great scene where he's like, can you just drop out of the race because I want it. Yeah, yeah. Because I want it. I want it. Come on. Please, you can do it. Just do it. Come on. And people are like, I don't know, I love the guy. He's great. And he doesn't seem to want it. And he doesn't know anything. But neither do I. That's, you know. Leslie was capable and great for that job. Bobby Newport is not. No. And Bobby was, I think was thinking like, maybe I'll just get it. And then Leslie, you can do it. Yeah. How about that? That's a good compromise. What are your memories of doing that character? Such a funny character. You were so great. Thank you, Amy. My memories of that were, I can't believe I get to work with my favorite people in the world. You and Adam and Catherine and Rashida. It was like, this is the dream. I mean, this is, you know, I remember when you were talking to Tina on the very first episode you did where you were saying, you feel like the great thing that can happen if you are able to sustain enough of a career that you can get to a point where you work with your friends or you get to work with people you really like. Because it's not like, it's not work. It's just, it's just the best. And I mean, it was such a fun character, obviously. And the show is so great and you're so great in it. It was just, it was a dream. Yeah. It was a dream. And you know, and I was, I loved it. I loved every second of it. I loved hanging out with all you guys. It was so fun. It was really fun. It was. And it was, those scenes were so funny. Like he got, you got to do the stuff that was the stupidest. Talk about fun, stupid. It's the stupidest stuff. Well, there's nothing, there's nothing funnier to me than unearned confidence. Yeah. Like just, just somebody feels like they, you know, it's like, I've got it figured out. And it's like, no, you don't. Yeah. But, but if it's, and if it's, if it's like nice, like if it's fun, it's really funny if it's not nice, unearned confidence. But, that was the thing of like, he had a lot of kind of unearned confidence, but he had, he was just dumb. Yeah. He wanted to have a good time. He was sweet though. But he's a nice, he was sweet. He was sweet. 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And let me tell you, Let me tell you, I'm in that car and I feel like a million bucks. folks. Quiet ride. Comfortable. Love my Subaru. Can't get enough. With up to 581 miles in the Subaru Forester Hybrid and even more, 597 in the Crosstrek Hybrid, you can go further between stops and stay in the moment longer. The Subaru Forester Hybrid and Crosstrek Hybrid, love goes the extra mile. We meet on the set of Parks and Rec. And for people that don't know, like you had a crazy week when you got hired. You got like three jobs that same week. What happened that week you were hired on Parks? So I basically, I was like trying to get a part in Funny People, the Judd Apatow movie with Seth Rogen and Adam Sandler. And I went through kind of this whole vetting process in New York. And then enough where Allison Jones, who casted me in the movie, was like, who cast that movie and Parks and Rec, was called me and was like, all right, like you made it to the chemistry read stage. So you have to come out to LA and read with Seth and see if you get the part basically. And so, but I didn't really have an agent or anything. And I kind of had to like pay my way, you know, to go out there. So it was like a little bit janky, but I got myself out there to do that. And then while I was out in LA for that week to do the Funny People thing, Allison was like, how would I send you on some other things? Like, how do you feel about that? And so, yeah, so one of them was, she wanted me to go meet Mike Schur and Greg Daniels, who at the time were shooting on The Office. And they were shooting, they were on the set of The Office. So she sent me to the set of The Office. And I didn't even, I guess at that time, I didn't realize like, I didn't think like, oh, I could, these meetings will get me a job. I didn't understand. I mean, I think it's one of the things about being young that's kind of nice is you're not really aware what you're actually, like, what's at stake. No, definitely not that. I mean, if it was an audition, obviously, I know like, all right, I'm going to get the part or not. But like, general meetings, I didn't really get the vibe of that. How old were you then? I was 24, 23, 23 maybe. But so then I went to the set of The Office and I was so starstruck. I see in my horse eye, BJ Novak and Mindy Kaling walk by and I was like, oh, my God. I was like, they're in the show or whatever. And Mike Schur is like, hello. And he's like at his desk, like, and I'm like, what? And then I just met him for like, he describes it. He really embellishes this story. I think he loves this story. He loves it. But he's like, and then I met the weirdest person. I'm like, there's no bigger fan of Aubrey Plaza than Mike Schur. Yeah, right. He loves it, though, because I think like, I mean, it just speaks to, honestly, the fact that you've always been yourself, confidently yourself, and you don't have a vibe of like, you don't, you are the opposite of a pick me, as the kids would say. Like, you do not have that vibe. And that draws people in. And I think he was like, who is this person? Yeah. Who seems mad at me? Yeah. I try to give her a job. Yeah, literally. And why are you wearing jean shorts in a general meeting? Like ripped jean shorts. And you're like, what this was? No. And then I got a phone call. And they were like, you're on a TV show. I'm like, what? No. But then. Which one? I know. What, you're like, The Office? Yeah. I literally probably said that. I didn't know what was going on. And then they were like, actually, you got the part, but actually, you have to audition to play yourself. You don't have to name names, but I wonder who else was up to play you. I don't think that anyone. Oh, right. It was just one person. I think they just made me do it, like, for the network or something. I think I found out later. I mean, maybe not. I don't know. It's probably like, you know. Yeah. It was you, Sharon Stone and Gina Gershon. Yeah. So you get the part. We're on the set. And then, like, I mean, we could do a whole, obviously, we could do a whole episode about our experiences there. And there are so, like, I mean, I don't, the best thing about our relationship, I feel like, is I don't, like, a lot of, I think, long-lasting relationships is you don't always, like, remember how you met. Like, I just remember, like, just, I just have this vision of you being next to me on the set of that show. And me being like, welcome. Like, you know, Leslie was supposed to be, like, welcoming April. And April was supposed to be like, what am I doing here? And Amy was welcoming Aubrey. And Aubrey was like, what am I doing here? Truly, yeah. I mean, I remember when we first met. And I think I told you, the story, it was the promos that we shot. That's right. That's right. Which was weird because we hadn't shot the show yet. And the rest of the cast hadn't even been cast yet. I think at that point, it was just, like, Aziz, me, you. Yeah. Maybe another, Rashida. Maybe Rashida, yeah. I don't think we had Nick yet or. I don't think so. But they had me and I was there, like, physically there. So they shot this promo of us on a swing set. And that's when I met you, like, officially for the first time. And I think I was literally on a swing, like a child. Like, and I was like, and I was like, Jess, don't make any sudden movements. Except swinging. Except swinging. And then you, which is kind of good because swinging is really good somatically. Yeah, yes. For me, like, I liked. But then, yeah, you came over and we were both just swinging like little babies. That's how we met on a swing. We met on a playground, which is kind of nice. Really nice. And it feels like the show was that. Like, it was, it felt like a true, like, playground space. It really was. Like, we, I mean, I loved and love working with you. I love playing with you. I love acting with you. I love you as an actor. I love you as a person. I love your acting, Blasi. You know how good I think you are. And I feel like our dynamic, well, like, the arc of, in many ways, like, April had the biggest growth in the show. She goes from. Truly not wanting to be where she is to, like, you know, ending the show, like, with some kind of purpose and a love in her life and, like, some, also, like, a, she kind of stands up for what she doesn't want to do, which is a big part of your 20s. Like, but when you started that character, when you started her, did you have any idea where you thought it would go? Did you have any, you know, did you, did you see? No. Yeah. No, I just, no, I think I just, once I realized, like, oh, what's so fun about this character is that, like, it's a game of not showing anyone that I really care. Yes. And, like, once I locked into that, it was real, like, it felt like there was no limit to, like, the growth or, like, what could happen because if you hint that there's something else going on. Mm-hmm. It's, like, you can kind of play with that and also in different ways with every different character. So, I feel, like, maybe on an unconscious level, but I felt like, oh, there's so much to play with even though it feels really subtle and simple. Yeah, that was her secret is she cared, but she pretended she didn't. Yeah. And so, when it would pop out, it was so satisfying. Yeah. It was so funny and good. And the ways in which she tried to keep those things hidden were so funny. Yeah. And then I think just the Andy-April thing was such an organic, like, I had no idea that was going to become a thing until that one episode. So, let's talk about that. So, Andy played by Chris Pratt and you, April and Andy, had an episode where a bunch of us were off, like, doing the, like, a harvest. We're at the Harvest Festival. We're at some festival. I don't know where you guys were. We were doing something together. Yeah. Or you were, like, camping or something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We were, like, camping episodes. I don't know. And so, they put you guys in the office and just said, like, let's see what happens to these two characters when they hang out. Yeah. And basically, the chemistry that those characters had was the building block for why they eventually became, like, the real romantic love story of the show, other than Leslie and Anne. Yeah. Because Anne doesn't deserve… Don't talk about Anne. Sorry. But what do you remember of that day? I have a… Well, Greg Daniels directed. He directed the episode, which I will always remember because he was so delighted. Like, he had such a, like, little kid energy. And he was so… He just was, like, very willing to, like, let's just try things. And we had a whole day where we were just playing. It was, like, kind of like what you said, like, the office, like, the bullroom or bullpen. Yeah, bullpen. What do we call it? The bullpen. The bullroom. The bullpen, like, became a playground. And I just remember I have an image of, like, us sitting under the table. We were, like, under that main table for a while. Like, I don't even know what we were doing down there. But we were under there. Yeah. And I just remember… I don't know. It just felt… It was so fun. It just felt like… I remember before then there was… I think it was, like, the finale of maybe the first season. I don't remember what season. But there was a very subtle moment where we're all in a group. We're in a circle. And Andy's, like, saying something. He's saying something about his band or he's, like, something about, like, I think, like, this band name is cool or whatever. And everybody's like… else was like no and april and i was just like i like it and it was like an improvised thing but i do you remember that where i remember being like and then i remember like knocking on mike sure's like door and being like listen i was like april loves andy and april thinks andy's cool because he's so not cool that he's cool do you understand and mike was like get out of here and i was like you i was like you better listen to me um and then you did you knocked on his door it was like i mean yeah it was more like just a little conversation but it was like it was like a it was like a layer to that character because you become his advocate like and that's the part of april that like is like another interesting layer is like again she acts like nothing matters and she's um you know completely disaffected but she's actually very fiercely loyal yeah and very um and like sticks up for people she believes in which i think is a character character trait of you too plazzi like you're very you're very loyal friend yeah you're a really really protective friend um and you really stick up for people who you love and that side of it was so great because then we got to see her like manage him care about the band see potential for him that he didn't see in himself and he was just like i can't believe how lucky i am and i remember when the writers had you guys get married we were all like what like i know that was insane that was do what do you remember of that day shooting it we there was a lot of crying you cried i mean i love a wedding you cry i remember you like cried in the kitchen and then you were like crying like off camera and i was like stop i cried that much yes you did you like literally cried all day it was so weird i was so happy you're in love you're like crying all day there was like i was like not crying all day i was like we're not even the camera i was like we're in my trailer like why are you doing this and you were like how do you feel i'm like oh my god i'm like oh my god no i'm ordering a salad for lunch like this is my job i was crying because you were crying so hard and i was worried that we weren't gonna get the shot i was crying because i was sad at how much you were crying i don't think so i think that you thought it was real and yeah i assumed it was legally binding yeah yeah but it was so good and it was and the and the vows were so funny yeah and the wedding was so stupid it was so funny okay i mean i guess like when do you have you re-watched parks and rec nope what i'm finding this out okay i wouldn't even know how shut up okay okay you ask me how you've never what the big giant screen that you watch your movies on how does it work go blue these days i wouldn't go to go to go to what type in where the search how someone tell me peacock no yes yes go there or go to itunes i wish i knew how just just pick up your controller and just which one into it and it'll come up okay it's probably not the right one go to your dvds you love your dvds i wish i had one right now um but so you've never re-watched it no i don't know what's wrong with you guys i if it comes on in a hotel room i literally throw something i throw it adam says i will literally break the TV watching the show makes him sad nick has told me he has not re-watched it liar he jerks off to it every night you know he sits there and like touches himself you're so right he's got it on right now tammy you're right he does watch it for his real life megan malali they get off on that they watch it they watch you're so right they watch it together and they and then they just slap each other in the face they're disgusting they're so disgusting nick i know you're listening you're not fooling anybody two more things about parks uh what we had so many fun guest stars come in and like you connected with some of them in interesting ways i don't know if you remember this but do you remember when chris bosh was on the show the basketball player chris bosh he was a miami heat player oh yes and he was was he in like i had like different beat basketball like roy um yeah we had right yes yeah chris bosh yes chris bosh he was with like aziz and um was he like john ralphio yeah entertainment 720 yeah but like i don't know if you know this story it was a fairly quick story but it was so stupid but i was a really big chris bosh fan so like i was like oh my god like i can't believe he's coming like this is insane i was like i want to play a prank on him do you know this no and so he had to go through hair and makeup but you know he i think had very little hair and you know whatever um didn't need makeup because he's a guy or whatever um but you know how they always put them through the works anyway yeah so i was like i'm gonna pretend to be the hair stylist and i think it was terry maybe was in there and you know how she had those glasses or whatever so i was like terry give me your glasses or i can't remember whatever and i'm thinking like this is gonna be hilarious because it's gonna be me and he'll be like ha ha it's you um so i like pretend to be terry i'm like at her station and then he goes through like makeup first and they're like you look good you know a little powder and you're good and then he like went he was like yeah yeah thanks a lot and then he sat down in my chair and i was like well and i looked at him and i was like what are we gonna do today and i was like doing like a dumb thing and he didn't make any eye contact with me he was just looking down and he was so sweet but he didn't make eye contact he was just like yeah whatever you think oh no and you were like and i was like well i think that you're looking pretty good sir and he'd be like yeah i'm so i'm good all right and i'd be like well you're not that good and then i was like i just kept it going and someone videotaped it oh my god it was so awkward didn't recognize me at all didn't know who i was don't think he ever knew who i was i mean not once chris bosh isn't gonna be watching the show before he comes in he didn't know he's too busy i was he thought i was uh he thought you were a hair person and like the pas he's almost done in my department of hair and then basically it just died and he never you never nope well chris is probably listening so now you know never not did you even work with him on set that day never saw him again literally never saw him again ever in my life every single day someone tells me parks got them through the pandemic and i heard you mention it on a previous episode isn't that every single day yeah yeah people say i don't know i don't know i don't know i watched it during covid i watch it with my kid my kid's going through a hard time i like to watch it at night because i get i have a lot of anxiety like i cannot believe the way that that show continues to be a medicine for people it's it's so nice isn't that nice and ben and leslie i know i know we just we do you remember we were texting just a couple months ago and just kind of commented on how nice they are they're So nice. They're so much nicer than us. So much nicer. And they're so nice to each other. I know. And every woman deserves a Ben. Every woman deserves a partner like Ben who roots for you and, like, looks at you and is just like, that's my gal. Like, everyone deserves that kind of relationship. But also, Leslie, from the word go, loved Ben. Oh, beyond. Like, now looking back, it's like they were just in love with each other. I know. Immediately. And their arc was such so juicy. I know. And it was Mike and the writers because they meet and they're just like, well, what's your deal? Oh, yeah. It was like. Hot. And then they like each other, but then they can't. They can't be together. Yeah, that was great. They can't be together, which is like, really? I mean, they probably could have been together. I know, it didn't matter, but. And then they have to break up. And Mike was like, this is totally fake and whatever. But we just need to have Rob care about you two being together. And it worked. And it was like, made it even hotter. It was. And then Ben was like, I want you. Like, Ben kept putting Leslie's, you know what it is? They kept putting each other's needs over their own. They cared about what the other one needed. Yeah. And they respected each other. Yes. Like, they really liked what the other one did. And it was the best thing about that relationship is how, you know, with the exception of Ann, who is. Of course. Leslie's number one. Of course. I've accepted that. Yeah. Is the way that they, they just rooted for each other. Yes. They really rooted for each other. I haven't seen a ton of, it makes me sad to watch the show because I miss it. I've heard you say that. Yeah. Why does it make you sad? Because I miss it. I, like you were saying, like, we really appreciated being there every day and it was so fun. Yeah. And also just sort of. Sort of walking in that building and then suddenly you're there and the hallways and the. Yeah. It was so fun and the people just loved everybody. I think one of the things that was so fun about what we got to do is the camera helped us. At least it helped me have my feelings about, you know, there. I tell people like, of course you, of course we love Ben. We got to like Ben. We watch Ben watch less. And we love Leslie. So like when people love Leslie, we love them and we got to watch Ben love her because the camera. camera watch like we got to do so much indirect stuff like we didn't have to face to face all the time we had feelings our characters had feelings for each other because of the camera and that's right though even though i mean and it's such a beautiful uh genre that mockumentary because it allows you to just even create space and depth in the shot people are just not in the same room that's right and like i remember we always used to say we loved it when there were spy shots through like blinds because it made our acting better. Do you remember that? Yes. Do you also remember this thing we used to do where sometimes we would be doing a scene and we'd be like, okay, I can't, I'm not someone who can predict the future a hundred percent, but I will say it was like a couple of times a season. I will say, I can say with 100% certainty that neither of us will ever win an award for acting for this scene. You would say it sometimes. I mean, and also on the other side, I would sometimes say, you know, I said this on the podcast, like I would say like, Adam, your acting is so good. You'd be like, shut up. We're in the middle of the scene. Because it was like, oh my God. I mean, but, oh yeah. I mean, that's what I love about working with you. And I just- I just feel like before we end, like, I just want to feed our fans a little bit more, which is what, what do you think was the most romantic scene between Ben and Leslie? Oh man. It's so sweet. I know, but what's the most romantic? The most romantic? I think, I think, well, there are a couple of nominees. Okay. But I think, I think maybe Smallest Park. Ugh. Because I- We just heard a little groan. I hope it's a good groan. Someone just being like, ugh, bleh. I love Smallest Park. Me too. Nicole Holofcener, the great Nicole Holofcener directed that. And Chelsea wrote that one. Chelsea Peretti wrote that episode. And I remember really like feeling connected shooting that and just being like, this is kind of feeling like how special it was- Yes. Making the show. Yes. And that was- Yeah, that was, but I don't know. What, what, what do you think? Well, I have a lot. I mean, I feel that that was such a big one. I feel like some of the, I have such a affinity for the beginning, beginnings parts of Ben and Leslie, because I do think it also just reminded me of like, we were, you know, the show was deciding that they were going to love each other too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really love this tiny moment when they, realize they have, they like the same spot when they like to sit under the sunflower mural. Well- I love that moment. When I ask you if you know where that mural is and your response is real, it's a rewindable moment. I love that moment between both of us because, and of course, Parks then pays it off years later. Yeah, years later. Yeah. By sitting underneath it. Yeah. I also, you know, when we shot Ben and Leslie's wedding, it was so fun. It was like, we were all just sitting there all day goofing around. And it was so fun. And like- I think we had real champagne too, maybe. We probably did. Yeah. We probably did. And then that probably became a problem later in the day. Yeah, probably. Champagne, not something to have when you're, when you have like a 10 hour work day ahead of you. Are you asked all the time if there'll be a more- Yeah. Parks or a reboot or something. I always feel like it's, it's been, it's done. Like it was perfectly done. It's tough. Like, yeah, it was kind of- Like, how do you do that? Perfectly. Maybe they should do like Muppet Babies. They should do like Parks and Rec Babies. That's right. Like everyone has babies. All of us has babies. Like that Instagram thing where everyone's- Oh, yeah. We've seen that. The AI babies. Yeah, the AI babies. They should do AI babies. But like a whole series- Yeah. Of all of us just in a crib together. Yeah. But they should do it like present day where like the politics are really dark- Yep. And mean. And so it should be like tiny babies fighting each other. Yeah. They hate each other. It's like apocalyptic political babies. And they're all like, oh no, they're so- I hate you so much. I hate you so much. Yay. I mean- Yay. I hate you. Because we made the show in an era where public service was encouraged and valued. Right. And funded. Yes. It was, or I mean, you know, I'm sure it wasn't as funded as much as it should have been, but it was funded at least. It's an entirely different tone to American life. You know when you have that feeling sometimes like you wish you could go back to high school and enjoy it? Right. That's how it felt. Like we actually got to do it in real time. Yeah. Because it was genuinely goofy and funny. Yeah. Like the best jokes- What is one of your favorite jokes? What is one of the favorite funny scenes you got to do? So many. So many. I mean, I always think of- Yeah. You guys on the ice at the ice skating rink with Gloria Estefan. Yeah. I mean, that is, I remember at the table read that was, we couldn't stop laughing because it was so funny. Yeah. Mike Scully wrote that episode and- Oh, Mike Scully's the best. We got to walk across that ice and I remember just thinking this is so fun. It looked so fun. What a fun job. That wasn't even in that scene. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Sorry. We should probably just Photoshop. We should put me in that scene. That's why I brought it up. Yeah. I feel like it would, I deserve it. Yeah. Okay. You guys ready to watch it? Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Yes. Really exciting. Amy, are you going to play it? Oh, I'm supposed to play it. I'm supposed to play it. Here we go. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaia McMullin, and Alea Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. All I ever wanted was a really good hang. Every college football weekend, fired-up fans hit the road with their lucky shirts, pregame rituals with friends and family, and oddly specific traditions. 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