‘Fargo’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Kyle Brandt
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The rewatchable discussion centers on *Fargo* (1996), hailed as a near-perfect film by the Coen Brothers, blending satire, suspense, and deep human drama into a tightly crafted 98-minute experience. The conversation emphasizes its flawless structure, where every scene serves a narrative or emotional purpose, and its exploration of deception, moral chaos, and societal norms in rural America. Key performances—especially Bill Macy’s portrayal of Jerry Lundergaard and Frances McDormand’s nuanced role as Margie—are praised for their emotional depth and authenticity. The film’s regional flavor, from the King of Clubs bar to Minnesota’s cold, isolated landscape, grounds its absurdity in realism. Notable scenes, such as the escort encounter and the opening shot of a snow-covered highway, are analyzed for their narrative and thematic significance. Critics also note the film’s influence on modern crime storytelling, drawing comparisons to *The Sopranos* and *Barry*. Despite its acclaim, *Fargo* was overlooked by the Academy, which adds to its mythic status. The discussion highlights how the film’s unrelenting pacing, layered humor, and emotional complexity make it a timeless rewatchable. It also reflects on the cultural context of 1990s America, where regional differences and overlooked communities shaped storytelling. Ultimately, the conversation celebrates *Fargo* as a masterwork of genre-blending, character depth, and narrative precision—one of the most influential films of its era.
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It's the first we've never met in person. This is it. You know, the kids talk about aura, the energy. Come on. Look at this guy. Well, what better time than CR? Scary Carl right here, a movie you've wanted to do it for some time. Yes. Farga is next. This episode of the rewatchables is presented by TikTok. The online world moves fast. That's why a TikTok approaches teen safety with families in mind. From the start on TikTok, teens get over 50 built-in protections right when they join. Their accounts are private by default. For those under 16 direct messages are turned off. Only friends can comment on their videos. When safety comes first, discovery can follow. Learn more at TikTok.com/GuardiansGuard. Alright. Everyone has a favorite Colin Brothers movie. I asked you for a list a while ago. Hey, if you wanted to do a rewatchables, 70, 80s, 90s, 2000, you sent all these lists. Really fun list, by the way. Thank you. A lot of stuff that I liked. We've done a few of them. Fargo is on the list. So why? So, my headline is a hot take. It sounds like one. I think Fargo is a perfect movie. And I know we're going to poke holes in it. We're going to have fun. Tom Hanks said that as well. Not a hot take. Is that true? That was his take on the rewatch. See, I love hearing that. There's not, it's not only there's not a scene I don't love, I don't think there's a moment I don't love. There's not a character I don't love. It's one of the best scripts ever written. It's on the short list. The best movies. The not one best picture. It's terrifying. It's hilarious. It's romantic. It's violent. And there's a lot of great movies. I feel like it's a perfect movie. And I say that fully believe in it. It's, I'm love that we're doing it. Perfect movie. If you do the big five for Oscars and it's the performances and you're like best actor, best picture or whatever, this one has the five tools. It's like best music, best shot movie, one of the best shot movies I've ever seen. Best script. One of the best scripts you'll ever read. And three or four of the best performances you're going to get in a film. And it's so distinctly them while being part of like this amazing tradition of film war movies from the previous decades. It's just an incredible creation into Kyle's point. And you're watching this, talk about a perfect game, picture performance, not one scene doesn't have a point. Not one action doesn't have then a causal relationship to the next thing that happens. You know, and it's just so funny and so sad at the very same time. It's like almost like the perfect distillation of what the co-ins can do well. 98 minutes. Amazing. We don't have Craig today in studio. He's coming in later. I know. Craig's 100 minute rule. Yeah. So when you say perfect movie, this is about as close as it gets. I think my favorite co-embrothers movie is no country. Yeah. But it's like 1A1B and it's hard not to watch this movie and think of no country a little bit too. They're very much in conversation with each other. Yeah, and it's similar themes and it's a more blown out version of what they did here. The thing that's crazy here is it's like those like those Greg Maddox games from the 90s. Yeah. Yeah. I threw 88 pitches. I struck out a two guys got on base and the game was over in an hour and 49 minutes. Maddox was throwing a fastball that's 88 miles an hour. This one also has Randy Johnson's fastball, like it's 100 plus. The runtime thing you can't get around. I just named six different genres that this movie is. You should need two and a half hours to fill all those genres. It is so tight. I keep saying it like every single scene I love. There's not a single P break. There's not a single filler. You're like, all right, enough with this. Let's get every scene is the good stuff. It really the perfect game analogies, what it feels like, it was like, I don't even know if they ever behind them account, you know, like they'll let alone a base runner. Well, the controversial scene is when she runs in a mic from high school, but that seems really important. It's hugely important. Yeah. It's the whole reason she ends up going back to see Jerry. It's that. It's not only is it plot important, but it's them important because it's about the facade that all these people put up. It's about like Jerry with his suit and his pin and it's like, I'm going to tell you the true code, you know, and it's like, but actually this guy, this guy's life is going down the fucking drain as you watch him on every single scene. If you know where Jerry ends up, this is why it's a great watchful to watch Jerry in the first scene in the first moment, every time he interacts with Scotty, you're like, this guy is living a lie. And Mike is too. Even though Mike is vulnerable, quote unquote, he's vulnerable about a complete fiction, you know what I mean? He's crying about something that didn't actually happen. You know, I know it's perfect to even the kid actor, it doesn't annoy me. The kid actor's always a noise. Scotty. That's got his good. Yeah. Like he does his part perfectly fine, even he is well cast and performs well. And I love, I mean, the Yanagi to scene we're going to talk about a lot. It's probably my favorite scene in the movie. There's two schools of belief about this. There's this whole section of the fanhood that think it's hilarious because it's the most random scene in cinema history and service and no point. It's just a funny thing the Coen Brothers want to do. Then there's the second layer. They're like, no, no, no, no. It's incredibly instrumental because after Margie sits with Yanagita, she starts thinking about being lied to. And she knows that Jerry lied to her in the car dealership. I rewatched it again this week after reading that. There's two scenes of Margie just driving by herself and her face and real face acting bill. And she goes like a little tiny Oscar winning thing where she's like, hold on a second. And then she's in Leningrad's office all over. That's right. That's amazing. There's also a third layer to it, which I think I, I hadn't really thought about before. And maybe this is a little TV brain because you start to be like, what if this is what this is really about? But she dresses much differently to go meet Mike. She puts on makeup and like most of her domestic life with norm is like, all right, let's go eat the Schmorgas Bohr and let's go downstairs and watch a little TV. And I, but there she's in Minneapolis at the radison. Like what like, I'm not saying that she was going to do something about it. Chris, I danced around a hot take about that, but I think she wants to feel observed in a different way. She definitely does. And I think that that's like, that's a third layer of a scene that is just like a, not a throw away, but is like a comic tragic move midway through the second act of a movie that then goes into this relentless over driving. Well, how about a movie that where she wins best actress? Yeah. But we don't see her for the first 34 minutes of the movie. I know. What a flex. Incredible. It's, I don't know of any other movie that's taken that long. We've seen movies where the characters come in later, and we're supporting actors, maybe. Yeah, yeah. But not this where the whole third of the movie is done, but it actually makes sense when she comes in because there's no case yet. Didn't you call that watching it when it goes to the Marge thing? I paused it too. And it's a, it's a painting of Norton's painting and they're in bed and like, holy shit, we're just seeing Marge now in the movies of the film. I did this exact same thing. Yeah. I watched this movie with my budding film buff, my son, who knew nothing, like you said. I know. He was really excited that it wasn't a long movie. Yeah, that. Um, he got a couple of woes, but then at the end of the movie, he just kind of did one of these and he's like, I'm going to chew on that. What was that about? And I, and I said, just sit with it, sit with it. Let's talk about it tomorrow. It's like, all right. I'm going to sit with it. And then we talked about it the next day. And basically, I think he, he kind of figured it out. I had to help him a little bit, you know, as young as 18, but what was his conclusion? It's just like, this is the whole point is that evil could be anywhere, even in the most simple place. Yes. You could have dumb and confident, normal, all these, all the stereotypes of people who would live in this part of the country, but you never know what could emerge. And this is how it happens. And that's, I think what the movie is about. It makes me nervous that that your son is on his phone while he's watching Fargo. He wasn't. He was locked. It's good. No, Ben's in it. Ben's in it. I kept seeing him peeks over. Yeah. Ben's like watching 2001. Yeah. He's in the Kubrick. And yeah, like that. Awesome. But I kept peeking over to make sure that this movie is so engaging. I know. And it moves so fast. And even like when, when they get the escorts and it's just, there's a scene she's riding him. The other guy's in the other bed. Then they're watching the tonight show. We move on. It's like 20 seconds. I know. But it's just trying to get so much done. I think if they made this movie now with in the wrong hands, it's two hours and 20 minutes. Well, I mean, I think you could see sort of a version of this in the series that Noah Holley made that's inspired by the show, which is a lot of interesting stuff and a lot of like interesting expansions on some of the themes of Fargo. It's never really related. Although there's some like cross, there's some stitching that goes back to Fargo. It's not, but it's not explicitly a remake or an extension of it. And it's, it's got a lot of filler. I mean, he's making like eight hour, 10 hour movies of each season. And it's kind of antithetical to the sort of what the Collins were really doing.
here. I think to your point about like evil can lurk anywhere. It's also about how some of the stories that I think that these guys are so obsessed with the Hollywood gangster and crime films of like the 40s and the 50s that we always associate with New York Chicago or Los Angeles and it's like Raymond trailer and a femme fatale and a kidnapping or whatever. It can happen anywhere. Like it's not the place that is the home of the of the evil or the bad stuff or the crime. It's not Hollywood and I think people have it in them. And they can be in a snowblown tundra or in downtown Los Angeles in the 40s. It doesn't really know what the Cohen's love. They fucking love a big case of money. It's I mean, it's one of the lead characters in the country. They love that. The case of money shows up in LaBoussky as the ringer. Like they love that. They love kidnappings. Joel's talked about it. Joel Cohen talked about how it's just like and just an amazing dramatic conceit because it basically does a stress test on all the characters, both the kidnappers and the victims of like you're being put into a position that you have to consider things you never thought you'd have to consider in your life. How much is somebody worth? What would you do maybe to get over on somebody? What would you do with your partner who you're doing it with like all this stuff comes out? Yeah, I wrote down some common themes from their movies. Let me know what you agree with. Okay. Every day people in an increasingly crazy situation which always works in a movie like even if you think about a movie like say anything like her dad is involved. He's getting in trouble with what was it? The IRS or the insurance? He was stealing from the dressing room and he's trying to cover it up like they love that the evil starting in the most simple unassuming places but also with some of the dumbest people possible. It seems to be something they're attracted to over and over again where it's like can you believe these fucking Nimwets? Yeah, but this is like this is 30 years, this movie is literally 30 years ago. Yeah right now. March 8th, 1996. But you think of the true crime shows whether you're watching like a Netflix show or even like those 2020 shows on Hulu. It's always these people that you're just watching and going why do they think this is going to work? And there's this pressian the title card at the beginning of like everything here is true except for the names which we changed to spare them but it's like yeah they made that up. They made that up and like people have gone through like old newspapers trying to figure out what case this is about and then like they've kind of let it linger. They are tricksters in that way like they'll they'll play around with the audience expectations. Couple other things to somebody making a plan and you can't make a plan because it's the old saying about man makes a plan God laughs yeah. They find humor and everything which I think one of the things that I think has been ripped off from this movie and I don't know I don't know if it's fair to say ripped off but maybe influenced but like I think of a show like Barry or even think of like the sopranos when they lost the Russian and the woods like you can just see the Fargo DNA all over the right device deep shemi yeah and I don't know if I fully realized that for a few years but when we had Hater on that time when we did no country of course and he was talking about like he wanted to bury because of the comb brothers. I think that especially shoot violence in a way that to me it's almost unique. I'm sure there are other examples but it basically confronts the viewer with both the like high comedy and and deep deep trauma of violence. So like you take we'll get to it but like the highway seen the state trooper scene which is kind of funny yeah and it's kind of funny watching him drive like a Keystone cop after the guy and stuff like that but it's also so sad and scary. One of the hilariously funny part is the payoff of the the ticket gate agent where he comes into the second one. Can I have her take and just blows the guy's head off that's a horrible thing and it's so fucking funny yeah that's why like I have really vivid memories of scene in the see in the theater because it was so unique and I just remember sitting there I mean like I don't know any of these actors a guy knew Bishemi because I was in the Tarantino at the time but like never seen Macy before never seen but I didn't know them and I remember people laughing so hard at different parts of the movie that we're supposed to be funny it weren't supposed to be I just left as a 15-year-old or whatever I was like just feeling like totally unwieldy yeah I like get it but it was all that what genre was it but like I'm seeing it again tomorrow you know what so the opening credits you crit like see I was talking about how when they usually make movies like this they're setting these cool locations and it's big fancy lavish whatever and they do that in the beginning and it's just basically a truck that's towing something yeah sure out of a buzzard it's the most mundane thing you could possibly see on a highway in Minnesota but the way they shoot it you think it's gonna be this awesome dramatic thing but it's also that's a car it's the music is gorgeous car overall it's the moment Jerry can't come back now like he's given them the car now it's now it's too late to doing it once you set something in motion yeah you can't pull it back and he tries to pull it back multiple times and it doesn't work I got I mean I I have that for great yet go order the first shot a whole fucking movie like how perfect is that with the music oh go ahead well the only other thing I had was about how you could have the best plan ever but bad luck I think the coin flip they really tied that into the most yes you just never know like Anton Shigerr kind of nailed everything he's throwing no hitter down the stretch and they just get hit by a car and that's it yeah for no fucking reason bones to get it was arm and you just fucked up um they when they make this movie they're at the end of probably or they're sort of right at the end of one of my favorite runs in cinema history they open first movies blood simple then they do raising Arizona millers crossing which is probably is that your favorite it's top to boardowski yeah Martin Finn cut sucker proxy HUD sucker proxy kind of a disappointment commercially because they had Newman in it supposed to be this big movie so they're like oh you know what are they gonna and they go and make this movie for six million dollars yeah to Oscar winner it's a pretty big success relative to its budget and then after that it's Lebowski and no brother and it's like one of the great runs of direct for directors I think in in movies I was a slow burn with Fargo I I think it's a classic rewatchable as example of I liked it but then it was a jump into you know and oh oh oh all right and then all the sudden I was like I get this movie yes it took me sometimes the movies don't sit perfectly in your brain for a while and this one no country was the other one for me that I just never like no I'd never like the ending and they should I didn't either I still don't and then as I got older I was like I fucking love the ending man Tommy Lee Jones like he just he doesn't want to be out there anymore yeah I feel like we deserve to see Lou Ellen's death as it transpires yeah I we spent two hours with a guy I like the guy I know it's a tough thing it's like the way it the way it is in the book and the way they shoot it they're it's it's if we ever re re re country I'd love to do the cone gets want to go to war for it they don't like yes people disparaging any of no no country I love the movie I I wanted to see Lou Ellen how it how it happened I don't like that they took that what's the type of movie that they did and make that you always wish wish they could have made they made almost everything like would you want to see their version of Roadhouse they're gonna stand on the shoulders of Rowdy Harrington take on the double doos yeah I would like to see that yeah I think I would like to see that I would like to go cash down it really feels like they explored the studio space with all the ever saw in the theater with my wife ever we were just starting to date he was burned after reading and um like it blew both of our fucking minds like we didn't know what you're watching like really really weird stuff and there's a sex machine in that movie and it's like I it's right brook could hang with it my wife she's like I thought that was funny I was like I'm married yeah so I feel like the cone brothers helped us out with that one thing they're good at that uh is underrated as sex and violence is so mundane in their movies where even in this one they cut there's just like that escorts writing boshemi the second time and she's just like what did she say I hear bells yeah do like Angela Dundee in the corner come on now show the jab throw the jab and he's loving it I have a point a bit for boshemi and what's age the best it's almost a special Steve boshemi category for me right so Joel Cohen said about the William Mason character I hear bells I didn't I didn't know what sort of wrote there's some sort of role playing going on I was sitting on the plane today with subtitles on I learned a lot of things I never remember playing between the escorts from the hose the dialogue that made me think there was oh I thought some extra thing we get to that's very funny I didn't actually really like in character doing something so Joel Cohen said about the William Mason character they found interesting his absolute incapacity for even one minute to project himself into the future so that he might evaluate the consequences of the decisions he's made there's something fascinating about his total inability to gain any perspective he's one of those people who build a pyramid but never think for a minute about it crumbling and this is like this is every true crime documentary and these people who are just like no I'm one move away from and then I can get away with this and it's just they're just making it worse I don't know if there's like a sort of super pathology that encompasses being addicted to something or being an incredible debt but the way that every single thing is just like I have to fucking put a bandaid on the gaping wound that I have so that I can then put my hand back here to stop the bleeding over here and it's like the things that he doesn't care about at all are his wife and son it's just the inversion of a real person I know where he's just like it's so incredible and the fact that through all of that he's still kind of selling cars definitely he's so amazing
He's the executive sales manager. Jerry Lundergaard had it totally happened for a guy Bill Macy it. No, man, it's stuff, right? Like he tried out for a lesser role. I think he tried out as the cop who gets shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he is a detective in it. Yeah, I want something, but he was a Mr. Hollins opus to your before. He goes on this run of Fargo Air Force one and boogie nights all in a row. And by boogie nights, it's like, I love this guy. Yeah, no. And it's somewhere in here that he becomes Bill Macy. And then when you just see him, you know, it'd be a good thing. But I don't, I don't think it 100% existed yet. When did, when did sports night on, when did sports night come on, late 90s? Because I always remember his end of, he wasn't like that he doesn't want everything to happen. Yeah, he does like a two episode or three episode arc. That's like, I'm going to save sports night from the network or something. So favorite Bill Macy ever, would you have something else? No, I mean, I, again, I just remember being in the theater. I mean, like, who the fuck is this person? He's like the best, this is the best act I haven't ever seen in my life. And then afterwards, you know, he starts showing up with Harrison Ford in Air Force one. He's in boogie nights. My favorite movie of all time, my favorite part about Bill Macy and boogie nights is there's one part where Jerry Lunderer kind of comes out. And it's when he's on the drive way. And it's like, my fucking wife has an actor, an actor cock in the driveway. I'm sorry, if my mind is on the film machine, okay. And he goes that like that, okay, it sounds just like Jerry Lundergaard. And I was like, oh, that's Jerry came out. It kills me. Are you giving me shit, Kurt? No, no, not at all. That's just the same. It's a favorite, my favorite, Macy. What's your favorite, Macy? Yeah, little bills by favorite. I would just say that Macy doing mammoth is my favorite. So whether it's homicide or Spartan, or I just think he's, he's one of the best deliverers of those of that dialogue. So it's a nice little small parent part and search it for Bobby Fish. Yeah, something about his face. It's a one of a kind. It's funny because Bouchemmie is in this too. We're just like these distinct faces that you can't compare to anybody else who's ever lived. Bouchemmie. I so I really thought about this. He's not a that guy anymore by 96. He graduated because reservoir dogs, Mr. Pink. I think he's, he's not a that guy anymore for that. But he does have this run of Fargo escape from New York, Conair and Lebowski. Somewhere in there, he's just Steve Bouchemmie. Let's get from Los Angeles, right? Let's get from Los Angeles here. Yeah, like after 94, my whole world was turntino. And so I would just watch reservoir dogs over and over and over. So when you see this movie and he's doing like Mr. Pink adjacent, yeah, he's got a gun. He's fucking bleeding. He's mad. He's pissed off. He's just so fucking mad. And I remember just telling my friends, I'm like, it's like Mr. Pink is back. He's so cool. I love it. I could watch Bouchemmie for an hour, just screaming at that fucking TV. It just put me into the ozone, baby. Fucking shitbox just over and over. I just love it. I can't get enough. It's like you can watch this movie. And it's like Macy Bouchemmie and McDorman can all be the lead character. Yeah, they're the three. And I, I, I like found myself just like thinking everything Bouchemmie did in this movie was the funniest thing I had ever seen in my life and the best. Like he blew me away. This last viewing in the dormant, obviously. Like basically, like this is a career maker for her. And she becomes like a pretty significant star after this, but yeah. But like this is like this time around for some reason I was like mesmerized by Carl. I was like, this is so great. You know what made, made sense when I read this and the research that I had never known before that they wrote this for Bouchemmie. Yes. When you hear stuff like that, and usually some of the best work is when the director writer person is like, I have this person in my head. Every line I'm writing is for Bouchemmie. My favorite for him is though the sopranos, his whole writing that he had where he. He just was in full command of, of he was full Bouchemmie at that point. But I think this is, did you want a walk? Which one? We're going to never got into it. I did. Yeah. Did you like it? Yeah, I did. In retrospect, like three seasons. Yeah. Like it's pretty great in retrospect. It's like I was thinking about if boardwalk was on now, it'd probably be like a top three shows a year. They should just release it and pretend it just came out. That's the thing is that like when these things pop up, whether it's like on other streaming services or whatever, like they'll get revival. And I'm like, damn, this is like really, really good. That was hey, Dave HBL Sunday night. It's like you couldn't miss anything. I watched like three seasons. The greatest thing about his character Tony being the sopranos was like, he was really the only guy who would stand up to Tony, like Tony. And he has this infamous scene where Tony's like, bro, beat him. He's like, you're crowding me. Like you're crowding me scene, like back the fuck off. And that's why he was so cool. And then he just completely comes on hinge. Great character. Then and I have talked about this that I still think that's the best stretch of this soprano, I think everyone is peak of their powers. They've just figured out the show, but it's doing exactly what to bring him in. And she's great stuff. And then McDormann, who's won three Oscars, all best actress and an Emmy and a Tony. Yeah, which she wouldn't have before. I forget it. I don't know. It's my research. No, Grammy and a Tony and she's won three best actor Oscars. The only other person knew that is DBL. Yeah. Best research I could find for her. She once lived in an apartment with the comb brothers, Sam Ramey and Holly Hunter. That's great. And somebody named Scott Spiegel, who's probably like, yeah, fuck. Scott Spiegel, Scott Spiegel, Scott Spiegel, Scott Spiegel's like, I don't know what happened. But where's my Oscar? Cause Holly Hunter won for broadcast. Yeah, she won just five Oscars in the apartment, not to mention the other one. One rotation too, but it's funny. My favorite for her is still almost famous, but she did not even. McDormann. And she didn't even, yeah, for McDormann. But this is what's your favorite, all my favorites are coming up Fargo. Like this is my favorite pushemi, even more than reservoir dogs or anything. Wow. I think she think it's, is it your favorite stormer? See, that's, that's a great question. Cause I mean, I have a feeling of direction. You might be going on that one, Bill. So I'm just going to let them open up a book. People know, there's a character. If you know about that, yeah, people that were up in the land. So it just goes, it starts going like, yeah, it's greatest. As stormer is in this movie. He's not directing snuff films, but yeah, I mean, it's, it's my favorite. All of that stuff is stormer. It's like, what could be worse than the guy played in Fargo? What is the film director? I guess that could take up a film is real, but then there's still like that. We'll put him in Armageddon. It's a cosmonaut. So Francis McDormann, long career was married to Joel, Joel. Yeah. And her three Oscars are not like major. It's weird. It's a weird three billboards, three billboards. And then North Country. No, Madeline, right? Or no, Madeline. Yeah, she had no, no, no, Madeline. Yeah, yeah. So it's not like she doesn't have her, I don't know, like your big market movie. They're all, this is probably the biggest one. I think that yeah, she's, this made 60 million. She's got like, Meryl Street performances, but she never does like a double words product. Like there's not a top movie. There's not a mystic river. Almost famous, probably the closest. She doesn't do Mama Mia, you know, what's interesting about her too? I was McDormann. She's had huge gaps. Like she took a, like a seven year gap, not long after this. And I looked it up and it coincides with when they decided to adopt a child. So like she's just, no, Madeline. I mean, I think she's doing the next, yeah. Or maybe Macbeth with Danza Washington. Then she has the next. She's waiting project. Yeah, she's on that rare list of actor, where it's like they have something out. And like you have my intention. Yes, which I think is probably a list of less than ten people. D L-ish, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's street. It's still on there for me. Yeah. I think Hank's is not on there anymore. Hank's was off. Yeah. I think Hank's is off. Cruises off. Like there's Jeffrey Donovan who played bottles in a, in shock all over. Hey, shock, uh, oh, ever the whole cast of shock car. How much shock car or last thing? How much things do you have? Hi, it's just, it's, it might be my favorite movie, the last ten years. Did limitless come out the last ten years? By the way, McDormand also primal fear. Like in the fucking incredible and prime fear. She's with the video camera, like just getting it, showing the stakes. I think she's great in that movie. She's also amazing in the Coen Brothers first movie. In Blood Simple. Yeah, she's, so this movie, she's pregnant. There's an innocence to her. There's some great fix. Some of the best face acting. Even she does some really good stuff in the, uh, in the scene with her high school guy, Michael. The best, um, after he puts his arm around and then she makes them go back. And then she has that look on her face. Like, this is going to go for another hour now. And I just want to like set myself on fire. And she's kind of that like frozen smile. Try to see her died, go get on that strong Chris. Yeah, and when he said, I always liked you so much. Just down and there's so Mike, she does not, no, I'm just down again. Yeah, like it's, she's awesome in that scene. Yeah. And then we have storm our, um, storm air storm air, I got him. I, it's, it's DeBanza DeBanza. Can we give him the, um, Sean Penn, I brought my own pack of word for X, I hear we got scream smoke. I don't know who you guys talk about him smoking. All right, this is what the movie he does that is so hard to do. There's levels, right? And when you get introduced to smoking, it starts and it's like, you're at a bar and you're like, I smoke when I drink and then you start smoking. Maybe you take, start taking smoke breaks, you smoke with coffee. You go outside, you get a break from work. It goes up another level. This is a move when you start using these two fingers instead of this. That's like a graduation, but when it goes up another level is when you either have a roommate or a partner who's like, we can smoke inside then it's a new world. The final level is when you smoke inside of a car with the windows rolled up. Unbelievable. That's when you've given up. You are like, I'm just going to be a
full tumor. I don't care. We're never going to let this smoke out on the elevator at the top. Exactly. And it's like Peter storm are in this movie and Dustin Hoffman and all the presidents bed. Yeah. Are the two guys who were like, I will smoke in the Pope's face in a closed locker somewhere. I don't care. And well, he's doing something with the, you don't say it off with the lit cigarette where only the tail end is in his mouth. It's right at the bottom lid. And it always seems like it's going to fall over and it's not. And it's just, he's not even really smoking. And when he smokes just going into his eyes, he cups it. And the all time and then he pulls through the nose every time is when he flicks it out the window when he's going after the two witnesses. And he's just like, boom, and you're like, oh, man, no, sure. That's such a great little gesture. It's a great, as can I say something as a smoking prude? Like I just, the double nostril blow is always really cool for me. Like that's like a reverse dunk or something. Yes. I was just watching one battle after another and Leo's doing them constantly down on the table. Yeah. It's the deniro good fellow slow-mo shot. It just blows it out like a dragon. It's amazing. If I start smoking, I'm going to do a lot of those. I just, I've always thought that was cool since I was a kid. It's never too late, Connor. It was definitely not. It's been out of the pot. It's been out of time. He actually uses it almost, it's almost like a lollipop. He's like, Oh, Jack. Yes. Just kind of dangling from his mouth. Yes. It's amazing. As I, as I said, I love him in deniro velvet, but I am DB credits. Okay. If I gave you storm air, storm our storm air. Buschemi Macy. Who do you think is one, two, three for most acting credits? Most. Storm air number one. I think storm air has done a shit load of voice over. And if we consider that acting, I would say that. But otherwise, I'll say Macy is, Macy has the most. Well, Macy, I feel like did like 10 years or shameless. Give me some, give me some numbers. Give me your one, two, five. I think storm air is like showing up in like Prestige TV shows for like two episodes still. I mean, so he's three digits. Give me a total number. 80. Oh, I'm going to say like 135 for storm air. What do you have for Buschemi? 50. 70. How about Macy? 105. Final standings. Macy, 158. Oh, shit. Way to go, Bill. Buschemi, 199. Really? Wow. Storm air. 231. Let's go. That's, that's I don't never see people like do you need someone of Eastern European or Russian backgrounds to show up and be medicine for an episode. I'll do it. They were like, John Mike too. He's like, no more. I saw there is an interview with Joel Kiniman. I saw recently. I mean, Joel Kiniman. And he was like Swedish too, right? He's like, the thing is I bought a house in Malibu. And now I got to pay for it. So I'll just like, he's right. I'm available. Yeah. And I was like, I wonder if that storm air like, I wonder what his house is that he's like, I will do CSI if it must. Well, I think when you're banging out like, like, Dino Velba, it's like four scenes. So that you're probably in the set for like five days, six days. Yeah. So you can basically go from sure. Dino Velvete right into, you know, did you see in the research that storm air has a band? Yeah. Blonde from Fargo. Yeah. That's what it's called. And I'm like, I listened to some Blonde from Fargo music on the plane. I had a quick metal hard rock. What is it? Folk, Folky. He plays guitar and sings though. Like, it's beautiful. I thought it was very, very, very cool. We take a break. And then we got to talk about Roger Jenkins. Great. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Claude from Anthropic. You know, that thing where you finish a movie and you immediately have to look up who directed it. What year it came out? How much money it made? 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I would say my favorite thing by him is probably still assassination of Jesse James by a coward Robert Ford, just in terms of like his cinematography in that movie. So put him against great shot Gordo and everyone else. He's in the Mount Rush Mar for you. He's definitely top five or six. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. He's like the Tories from our own Gordon Willis and yeah, William Fraker and Haskell Wexler, but like, yeah, he's incredible. Kyle, he used an Air Flex 35 BL4 camera for this in case you were keeping the notes at home. Did you know of all that? Use a similar. One thing I noticed the second time I watched this, oh, great 4k blue ray. Sure. Yeah. Awesome. Everything is white, the whole movie. And I don't know if they did this, then they're geniuses, but it all leads to the wood shipper where everything's red. And it's like it's white, white, white, white, white, white, and then boom, wood shipper red everywhere. It's almost like the shining elevator. And I wonder if they talk. I don't I don't know how much they put it on. How difficult. First of all, Deacons, the one day at the Sun came out when they were shooting. He was furious because he was like, this is breaking like, is there a funny scene? Like, he probably masked it. Yeah. Maybe at the deal. There's a little sun because there's a lot of natural light in those things. Yeah. They talked a lot about problems with like shooting the horizon because the snow and the white sky was so much that you can tell where the like land was done and the sky began. But I think it actually contributes to the feeling like you're on another planet. Definitely watching it. Wide shots, white, it's one of these movies that just in your brain, you can see different scenes. I don't even know how we do a great shot Gordo for this movie. That's why my selection is just the opening shot because it's just a fucking white out. And then a minute later, Lundegarde drives right past your ear. And it's it it's like hitting a 40 foot three to start the game. So I have a couple of nominees for Gordo. But the thing is is that like the shot as they like kind of push in or when they even first just like they didn't move the camera that much. But the lighting and the way that you're introduced to Carl and Garrett that at the bar was the king of clothes. Yeah. You're just like, I know exactly where I am. I know exactly what kind of dudes these are. They have six beers. They've killed in an hour already. Like, like, let's go. I know. I had this for later. But could you have lived in this part of the country? And I'd be a raging alcoholic if I did. Like that. Because I got to say that bar the king of clubs. Yeah. In my 20s. I would have been like, this is great. We're going here every night. Yeah. They got three pool tables. One next box. Escorts. That's awesome. Do you do it? I do. Kobe told me a really amazing story about going to a bar with Bill. I think in Charleston. Sometimes they're at Grayland or a while ago. And like, I don't know if you used to bartender or just used to go there, but you hadn't been there in like years. Yeah. It was a thing. And you walk keep Bill walks in with your Kobe. And the bartender just like, look, look, look, something. And it goes like, what'll it be, Billy? After like years away. That's what you want. That was in Charlestown. Yeah. Where everybody owes your name. Yeah. What was it that you wanted? I mean, it explains a lot of my 20s. I think I could have made it maybe two years without then the weather would have driven me nuts. Well, also, if it was back in the 80s, like, there's not even any timber walls or anything, like that. That's true. The Vikings team were great. Go for is a really important. Really important. Yeah. Obviously. But even like, I didn't even have a ticket. Jerry, you couldn't, but he's insulted that he would even ask if you had an extra college hockey game. To Oscar, to Oscar wins for McDorme and the screenplay. Big shot rides to not get an Oscar. Unbelievable. It's pretty good. Seven nominations, including the director. They did the thing where I was just Joel directing, even though both them directed. And then I think at some point they just, they just did so much good work. People were like, I have five. We can be both. They always have this editor named Roderick James. That's them. That's them. That's our nominated. That's their student. Oh, yeah. I think I read that. So they have a little group name for themselves to edit. Yeah. It's so to work. Does this with Peter Andrews? What he shoots his movies. So what would be your, what would be your editor? Did you know that? Yeah. But it would be like, might just be a machine. Yeah. So they don't went for best directing. And they don't want for best picture because English patient takes both. And it's an interesting best picture because if Fargo, Jeremiah, secrets and lies and shine, English patient wins. I don't know if English patients winning that one a second time. It's a great movie. But it was, that was one stand out, I think. Yeah. You know what's funny about that? Oscars. I have a funny, that's the 69th Academy Awards. Dustin Hoffman. I remember walks out and he goes to 69th Academy Awards. 69. And he looks down and goes, Jack is smiley. And they're going to Nick's got to speak shitting grin on his face. I like a little 69 every once in a while. What a herb. My God. Every time. That was what they did. I remember it's lively. I was 18. Best actress, McDormand wins. Yeah. Beats Brenda Blethlin. Diane Keaton, Kristen Scott Thomas and Emily Watson. That's a nice crew. Yeah.
And then, uh, Macy loses for supporting to keep beginning. Hmm. Also, Ed Norton loses that year in primal fear. Um, I also think this is the last, it's the last year before they expanded to more nominees or the first year when it was like 10 best picture nominees. Like, that was it until right in the edge. Uh, I thought that that was still five. He was still five until, oh, eight, because they changed it for don't know. Yeah, yeah, okay. All right, Macy, um, I think she'd have gone for a best actor. Anyone for best supporting, I think they put him best supporting, but I, I think he who did he lose to? He lost him to the right to do well. Yeah, I think I think he's incredible in that other people think it's a horrifying win in that we should redo it. Yeah, polarizing one. It's also a testament. I think Macy and Fargo has stood the test of time. I mean, it's like, you didn't get the statue, but I think a lot of people would be an interesting redo because I don't think, I don't think Macy loses 30 years later. We've been to some different, different acceptance speech, but, but you also have the history of, you also have the history of Macy. The last 30 years of work, too, so when I said that might have felt like who, I don't know, Macy just showed up in movies. Like we're going to hand it to him right now at who knows? Cooper put his time in a little bit. Tidwell was a really, I love the Tidwell character. And that's probably my single favorite sports movie character. Is that the only one that may want to support it? Yeah, yeah. By the way, I believe that he was a professional wide receiver. Like that's very hard to do. But we got Kush right behind you. Kush slash. Wow. That's Kush right there. Yeah. Cameron Crowe. That was his contribution to the studio. There's only three of them. Did Kush go to SMU? Well, I guess they pay. Yeah. Seven million dollar budget made 60 points. Where were we, Kush have gone in NIL is a great free conversation. Oh, yeah. Anything to do. I guess I'm going to see. So made 60 point six million, released in VHS laser, DVD, Blu-ray, and 4K Blu-ray. The fat five. Yeah. All five of them inspired the TV series that CR mentioned. And then a Cisco and Ebert together said best movie of 96. How can I? They had the criteria orgasm when they reviewed this on their show. They were just like, this is why we go to the movies. They did. They did a lot of the same way. They're right. You can see Sean just lifting their stick 30 years later. A lot of like movie celebration stuff. Sean's like, these guys give me a Ebert four stars. It rotates its story through satire comedy suspense and violence until it emerges. This is one of the best films I've ever seen. Films like Fargo or why I love the movies. You mentioned the DVD and all that. They also had this really fucking cool thing. When I was a senior in high school, I worked at the movie store in the mall. Like I worked at Suncoast Motion Picture Company. And Fargo released this special version of the VHS where you would get a snow globe with a dead body in it. I remember that out. Yeah. And it was like the hottest fucking item to get and we had people lining up before the store would open and we have like stock them and they would all be gone in 10 minutes. And I remember I got one and it was the coolest souvenir. It's like a bloody dead body like the guy right home it. I don't know. That would be a good. It's an awesome snow globe. That would be good for the memorabilia thing later. Let's see for your weight around out there on a eBay. Well, one other thing with the releases, this is a what's age to worse for this movie. They did that. It's shot really wide. Yeah. And when it was on cable for years and years of the Square TV, it's the painting scan. It was really bad. Yeah, it really like hurt the movie from a rewatch. This is it. You feel like you're watching like warrants. You feel like you're in Minnesota. I know. All right. Let's do the categories. Most rewatchable scene. We mentioned the opening credits. Jerry meets the kidnappers at King of clubs. The most North Dakota dive bar possible. It seems amazing. Yeah. Like they they encourage you to smoke inside of King clubs. I think you have to do it. Excuse me. Excuse me. Can you please leave? Excuse me, sir. Let's smoke tonight. Almost every scene that those guys are in, there's like seven empty beer bottles. Like somewhere in the shot. Yeah. Like even when they have Gene kidnapped like at the safe house, there's like tons of dead soldiers. All right. I have a zag for this. Yeah. I had it in my picking nits. I think it's a little bit of a hacky way that director shows someone's drunk that there's like six empty. I think any proud tavern, someone clears those bottles. Sure. I think it is a little transparent. They do the same thing in Zodiac with those blue glasses with all the fucking fucked up. Yeah. Someone comes and gets those glasses. I think there's a little bit of a hacky way to show someone. You may be. Am I overestimating the scaffing of the King of clubs? I mean, of course, my one guy, he's behind the bar, and he cleans up once. And the way this is what I wanted in response, I like it. And the waitress was also an escort. Yeah. She's back there. She's at the blue. I love room for. Yeah. Kidnapping scene. I love. She's knitting. She's watching. She's like watching Wayne show. Minneapolis. They're making halled dazzle eggs in the show. It's also the fucking funniest thing in this movie might be them being like, and we're doing a riverboat cruise at the Nile this year. So you guys got to sign up for that. I'm like, what can you fucking imagine going Egypt based on a morning show being like, we're doing a group tour of the Nile and like, it's such a perfect little throw away. We think the accommodations are on that trip. I don't know. It's like so much of this stuff because they're from Minnesota must be shit that happened to them or something. Sean TV. Well, the other movie that jumped into this was young adult, which is a movie that is very popular in the Simmons house. Which is. Oh, yeah. Jason Raymond movie. She goes back home for our high school reunion. But she's still in love with Patrick Wilson. But it really ties into this whole kind of Minnesota, how just weird everybody is there. Well, also so trust him. Like the strangest part of the home break in is that. Carl comes up like looking like you went to spirit Halloween and got home in Trudor costume like with a crowbar and she just stands there watching him for a long time until he breaks the glass. And I'll shit breaks loose like you'd be losing your way for it. This is happening. Yeah. What is she doing? Yeah. So I'm never seen her face is great. It's a really like all of a sudden super to we're like, Oh, shit. We're doing this. I mean, this could be what's our word for this. Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell. Yeah, that was fourth and 19, the shower curtains is good. She's really good in that scene. She seems completely terrified. What kind of finders fear you looking for? Oh, this is the best. We're not a bank. Jerry. Um, one of my favorite terrible playing, by the way, what do you just think they're going to give them $750,000? The dynamic here where Jerry has set off this felony abduction of his wife and it's like, Oh, shit. I might get some money. I have to call it off. Yes. It's so clumsy and so stupid. He reminds me of like when I lose something around the house, my God, fuck, and then I order on Amazon for 60 bucks. And then I find it and I go to try to cancel the other Amazon, I'm like, no, it's already shipped. God damn it. Except it's the abduction of his wife. It's so sloppy and so idiotic that he does that. And then I messes that up on top of it. I love that scene with Stan. I put in the three together of this scene, him flipping out and the ice scraper is the next scene. Yes. And then him coming home and rehearsing the phone call in the kitchen. It's all in a row. I love that. How penetratingly cold it is is always in the background of this movie, the ice scraping. She needs her car to get a jump from norm when she first leaves the house like, that's Midwest living. Yeah. I love that. We just came from that. Just came from recording this right after the buzzard. Second one of the winter, two feet, all that shit. The first thing Jerry does when he enters came clubs is something he does like six times in this movie where when he walks into a room, he goes like this. He has his feet a few times and like, that's Midwest living. The scrape off on the thing that is so relatable. Someone's gotten on the car. I'm like, God damn it. I have to scrape the fucking windshield. And then he has his crash out, which is just so well acted and so relatable. I love it. The criminals killed the cop at two innocent bystanders. Yes, it's big. Just keep it still later. Or else we're going to have to, you know, shoot, yeah, laugh out loud in the theater. Polaris. Really good. Unexpected murder fall by the oh daddy also the Cohen's love a headshot. Yeah. This is like it's always like, whoa, like it really stops you in your tracks. Right. Slate nip pick. I don't know enough about shooting somebody from two feet away. Okay. But Marvin and Pulp Fiction like his head basically explodes. Yes. Would your head explode from that close or would it just be the, I think it happens to Carl over the course of the movie that I think like he eventually like, like he suffers from some like random shot shots and stuff like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. March. This is a quick one, but March interviewing the two escorts kills me. Fantastic. Fantastic. Is that circumcised funny little fella? The running joke of Buscemi being funny looking in where they can't describe that reminds me I used to they wrote it for him. Like they're writing those lines about how funny looking he is. And you get that script. You're like, oh man, the Cohen brothers wrote me apart. This is great. Oh. And everyone's weird. We're looking at how that would feel. If you're in there, like, what the fuck? Tush. They're like, we wrote this for you, Steve. We're Carl. Even the process to say how weird looking you are. Yeah. The whole movie. The great thing about the, um, the hooker scene is also, sorry, the escort scene or whatever is, uh, Francis McDormick talked about how it's just written that way in the script down to the, oh, yeah, like, like every, all the punctuation, it's like, so can you imagine those two brothers sitting there and then goes, and then the one hooker says this and the other hooker says that. And then Francis says this, it's so funny to imagine them coming up with this. We didn't, I meant to do this at the top, but we didn't talk about the. The accents and how that kind of shaped how this movie was, um, consumed in 1996, because it was kind of like an accents movie in a way it seemed like it was going to work against McDormick and the Oscars. I actually had this for what was the most 1996 part of this movie is that it's not necessarily the last time, but it is a time in America where different regions felt far away and [BLANK_AUDIO]
culturally very different and in the sense that like now you can be like yeah, I could find out like what the three Best pizza places are in Minneapolis, St. Paul like right now on Instagram and like watch people eats license I could go in the King of clubs Instagram. Yeah, you're like guys that smoke at night. I know I'm like you own cigarettes This felt like when you were like is this what is like here? Like is this what Minnesota is like in what North Dakota is like? It's such an important point because I felt like in the 70s 80s and 90s The only way I knew what anything was like was in TV or movies. Yeah, like I don't know what like San Diego was like Or Denver, how would you know? Beverly Hills, right? You TV set in the Florida case and you're like this might as well be set on Jupiter. Yeah, it doesn't look like anything I've ever seen in my life and then how cool the show or the movie was in the location shaped like to me Miami was the coolest city we had just cuz of my guys you go to my No, okay, yeah, it's fine. Um, I have Boshemi braided in the parking lot guy. Yeah, I have Shep beat up Boshemi. Let's fuck a piece fight. You have to get that in there, doesn't he? He's so proud of that That line about the peace plan. I have the father not getting killed just cuz it's it's shocking. They got a real woe from my son. Um, no, she nobody. Who the fuck are you? The last couple scenes Boshemi has as an actor you could just hear the Cohen son. I'm like, you're done. You can't take anymore. I want you at a 10 out of 10. It's the phone call with Jerry. Yeah, Afrique is beat up by Shep and then when he shows up and Wade gets out of that car, it is 100 out of 100 Boshemi. I'm not Fucking around anymore. Yeah, he looks like like a craze dog and it's that perfect Boshemi Fucking paper towel. I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna shoot and he does. He's such a psychopath. And he can do it in a new movie Including one of my favorites, which we're considering for from Hell month domestic disturbance On a judgeable great. Steve Chevy plays get this a scumbag who comes into Vince Vaughan's life. Yeah, but he just he can break it out whenever he wants. I only have a couple more at the Eclan and Swedlands guy. So I'm tending bar there at Eclan and Swedlands last Tuesday that whole speech. It's just he's rips off a monologue and a monotone and he's just like doing the Ice and snow off of his driveway before more snow comes and hits it again. Yeah, and I say what kind of action? He says woman action. What do I look like? And I say, what do I look like? I don't arrange that kind of thing. Are you calling me a jerk? Last guy called me a jerk is dead now and I don't mean from old age. I think this might be my favorite scene. It's a great scene. I can love this scene. So do I. And it's that weird like deputy in the SUV who has two scenes and then it's a driveway guy. Yeah. Can I I think it's a good time as any because it relates to the accent. I wrote down the five most Fargo people in Fargo. Yeah, that's it. Like just the accent, the everything. All right, at five I have Jerry's manager at Gustav Sonato who's watching the GoFers game. You couldn't be named him already. And number four, I have the female cash here at the diner. Oh, yeah. How was everything today? And Jerry's like, how are you doing? It's got huge laugh in the air. Yeah. And number three, I got driveway guy going crazy out there at the lake guy who's just kind of just sweeping his wet driveway with the hood up and everything going crazy out there at the lake. And number two, I have our girl, the blonde escort from went to white bear high school Go Bears. And then I think number one, we haven't mentioned him yet. I mean, Lou, Lou, the officer of the Margie. All right, Margie. Yeah. That I mean, that guy is like a thousand on the scale. He is by far. He's a huge lasting brother. Yeah. Yes. That guy. Hey, Norm, how the panions going, but just some coffee. Yeah, that guy. You're all right. Mark. He's the one who thought that was the plate was DLR and then it's that deal. I agree with you. Please work there, Lou. He's the most Fargo guy in Fargo. That's a good list. Yeah. Thank you. Trying to think of that without anyone, but that there's a lot of fun ones. Oh, you, I think you hit the basics. Um, Margie goes to see Jerry's second time. We talked about the Mike scene already. The wood shipper scene into the drive, which was in all time. It's acts to the head shit. We're doing this. Well, all of a sudden, we hear the wood shipper in the back for a long time. We have our pregnant hero who is not been in any danger at all. And he went in this movie and just has a gun. Yeah. And she's creeping around and we know it's going to be bad. And I'm prepared for anything at this point from Fargo. The first time I say it, like it's, are they just because all the deaths are so abrupt in this movie. And it just, it gives you that sense of like kind of, not the pointlessness, but how fleeting and we're just like bags of meat out here. And like, anything can happen to you anymore. We've followed Carl throughout this whole movie being like, oh, is he going to get away with it? He's going to get this. And fuck, he just gets hit in the head with an axe and thrown on a wood shipper. That's what life does. And then I have the three-cent stamp, which I really like as an ending. That's a cute ending. Yeah. I think that the second scene, we only get two with Margie and Jerry is unbelievable acting by the both of them where Jerry does the ma'am. I answered your question. Yeah. I'm a man and cooperating here. And she gets real pissed off. What do you say? You get, you know, called to get snippy with me. Stippy with me. She only time Margie gets mad in the whole movie. And like, she's super stupid. When he, when he runs off and she's like, he's fleeing the interview as you kick it an outside line. I'm the fucking phone. That scene's amazing. So you have Mike as your favorite scene. Mike Yanagita scene is my favorite scene. It's preempted by the Mike Yanagita phone call at 1045. Yeah. But once they establish who they are, there's this guy. And then he goes, so how the heck are you? When they walk in and they go for that hug. And Mike goes, Oh, you look great. Yeah. It's like on Mayday. Mayday. Yeah. Fuck out of there. Is that careful? Everything about that scene. I'm going to talk about it later as well. It makes me so happy. What do you have? I think just for filmmaking purposes, it's the triple homicide in the highway. Yeah. Because you're like, Oh, they got pulled over. I wonder how this is going to work out. You're like, that's not how I thought it was going to work out. That also features one of my favorite. There are two shots that basically talk to each other. It's the shot of the two witnesses driving by slowly. And they're like, Yep. And then it also happens when Macy goes out of the parking garage and he goes past the attendant who's been killed. So I just find that the entire movie jumps up and not I think storm air for most of the movie ups and then it's just like homotose. And then he's snapped. He's like, I'll kill three people for nothing. You know, and it's that shot you talked about. We're finally he's driving. First time he's ever driving and the flick and he's driving with the gun. And you're like, he's Satan. He's going to kill. Yeah. And then like he's chasing him in the parts. That's just great. It's so cool. I love this. I think that's the answer. But I think my favorite is still the guys monologue. Yeah. Yeah. Yana Gita. Yeah. Doesn't use the word jerk. It calls me jerk. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's most 1987 or 1996 thing about this movie? You can go either movie set in 1987. For 87. Scotty London guards got a white snake poster over his bed. And 87 is the year that that album came out. And here I go again. Was all I mean, that's 87 March of 87. Oh, yeah. Oh, right over his bed. Holy shit. I didn't notice it either. I noticed the accordion poster. We'll get to that right over his bed. Is it Tony container? Is it just a way? I think it's like the album cover. Okay. But like that. The self title. The foremost important music video performance is here. I got one on the car. Yeah. Tonic 10. That is 87. Yeah. And so Scotty that's great. That's 87. The 96 for me is just what we've already talked about that you could just say this was a true story. And I will just believe it because they can't research it. It's like they Oh, good point. They like a Blair witch does come like that. This is real. Just trust us. All right. And it's not people are probably like looking at microfeashes trying to find the library. Yeah. Minneapolis Tribune. The only other one I had for 96 about this movie is $6 million dollar budget $60 million dollar box office. That's that's the dream. That's a huge one. A 10X return on a modestly budgeted movie that you have creative control over that winds up becoming. And Raj and Jean just hugging each other in the corner. That's really all you want. And those three Nimrods in a room 30 years later would be like, yep, that's the best movie man. Perfect. I had no ring cameras because we just catch every immediately. Yeah. I have faxing stuff. I have low life criminals having sex in the same room and two double beds. And then watching the tonight show. Yeah. All right. So Bill, I had this. What would be the show now? I don't know. Fallen. I had this underpicking this. Jimmy Fallen after having sex with you. Another guy. He's doing bad. I think Scott Ben belts can interview Lamar after this game. Shout out to Scott. Great job. Would you and another guy who barely know being the same room in two queen beds at the same time? Come on now. It depends on how many times he's been the king of clubs. I've never, I can't imagine. Don't you at least go out for burgers and come take a turn. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I've been in, I've been in this situation. Have you? Not all the way through. Wow. But there's a moment when somebody's got to get out of there, get it, go to a different place. Taps out. So it's a weird like you're both doing at the same time. Like, inevitably when finishes, is it a competition, then you're going, they're stopping. It's really Carl also is like watching Garrett. It's really fun. Yeah. Well, it's everything. One is, would you want to be in the situation? Two is, would you want to be in the situation with either of those two guys in the other no bad? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's so funny that they're like, they're doing a ransom deal, but they're also like, we're keeping expenses low. Dude, he girls one room. He doesn't want to pay the four bucks for that parking. Yeah. How do you think they decided who had which girl? Like, I found out a lot. They've got that type works. Yeah. These are typos, particularly knocking.
- I would say, the most 1987 thing about this movie, we did not mention it. It's a Playboy in the bathroom reading rack. When she's in the bathroom, the wife, she's getting kidnapped. They have a rack of magazines. - You have plenty of the Playboy? - Including Playboy magazine. Maybe it's just for the magazine rack. - Yeah. - That goes against time. - I don't see him as that. - That was in 1987, it was realistic. - Definitely. Scotty must have loved that too. That's huge. - I would say it's the best, we've mentioned a couple of things already. - I can do my run of Steve Bischembe here, if you want. - Oh, let's go. - So, let's say it's the best Steve Bischembe 90s scumbag. Test tube, the drug purity guy from King of New York. Mink from Miller's Crossing, Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Sh from things to do in Denver when you're dead, and Carl from Fargo. - Just on a rope. - Just an app, not in a row, but just throughout that decade, just played a fucking crazy scumbag. - You think that's the scumbag. - Of all of them, if you had like your number one. - I mean, honestly, probably this one. - This guy's tough. - I would not want to spend a night with test tube from King of New York. That's the like, go get me my Coca-Cola scene with Lawrence Fishburn, remember that? - Yeah. - Anyway, it's kind of pleasant. Like, he's trying to make conversation about the road. Like, he's in front of you. - Yeah, sure. - That's trying to do a podcast. - Yeah, for free is, yeah. Steve Bischembe with a woman riding him on top is just really funny and it saves the best. And the idea of Joe needs him being like, what if this guy just really likes jokes on top? That's so good. Just pour in search. He's never on top. - It's true. - And Steve Bischembe being described as little and funny looking by multiple characters and then the crowning achievement is definitely Carl taking a hooker to a Jose Feliciano concert. - No, I love the scene. - Jose Feliciano got no complaints. Telling her is in town on business, but just a little of the old in and out. (laughing) Before asking her if she's been to the celebrity room before and then he passes her, if she finds being an escort, interesting. - What are you talking about? - If she has to look on her face the whole time that's intentional where she's just like. - Oh my God. - Hey, tell her like, can you make an ugly face? Then I'll make an uglier. - Do one more time. - I'm making it much uglier. - You're sitting in to your neck. - Yeah, and that's it. - The best thing is when he's just like, "Wait a minute, I just like am deaf." (laughing) - And she said she's never been there because it's nice. You know, she's been with a client before. - No other would say she's about-- - Well, we didn't mention the score, which was great, but in every scene they're in together, Marge and Norm are either lying and better eating. - Yeah. - They have no other interactions. We don't even see them like watching TV in the living room. It's just they're in bed or at a table. - She's like at night, like she's got the chips in between the two of them. - Sleeping with food. - Yeah, that's tough. - This scene with them at that buffet. Jesus Christ. - Yeah. - It's an incredible moment. - They both are three plates deep. - Now she's deeply pregnant. - Big plates. - She's doing college when you have need for 24 hours. - And it's fucking lunch too. - Yeah. - That's been dinner. - This is the thing that I was thinking about. The two sides of this. One is he brings her Arbys, which I was trying to think of like the last time in my life. That life worked in a way where my wife would bring me my lunch and we would hang out at my work at all. And then the other side of it was just like the amount of calories you're hitting at noon. And like what happens to your body? - Swedish meatballs alone is like 25 hundred calories. - Too cheap. - So much you can fricacy and like that's a cream stew. - I actually had a World War III dude. - I had all this written down. That's gonna be about to be terrible afternoon. - 'Cause obviously this is the big Kahuna burger where for best she's food and drink. The buffet. - Oh good. - Chicken dumplings, chicken fricacy. Fried Torah and broil Torah. - This is like hot meatballs. - That's the only five things. There's more. - There's like potatoes. - She got a whole bowl of jello. - Yeah, there's all kinds of shit that's good for jello. - It was like the fat buffet. - Is that what he's saying? - The tort or the, what are you talking about? - It's some sort of Minnesota fish that's really spicy. - Yeah, I saw it too. - Okay. - This led me, I struggled a lot when this movie with Good Hang, like hard, like who I would want to hang with. - Yeah. - And I was like, I think it might be Norm. - It's Norm by default, but Norm's not necessarily a Good Hang. - I think Good Hang, that hang is pretty easy. - Norm, we know bad hangs. - Well, Carl's a Good Hang, Gary's a bad hang. I would love to take a road trip with Carl. - Can you close? - Get his thoughts on my channel. - You know it's brought to you. - This quarter. - Yeah. - I guess so. - No. - It's a good side of him. I just had to find a hard time landing on Norm. It's too boring and like, when I watch him eat that lunch, like Jesus Christ. - He's a loving man. - But he really gets locked in one time when she says he's got, she's going to Minnesota and he's like Minnesota. - Oh yeah. - That's the only time he's leaving like leaning forward. Couple more with Sage the best. I like movies where there's the loser son-in-law with the wealthy father-in-law. - Yes, it was great. - And the guy's just shitting on him in all these different ways. - He hates Jerry. - And he's like at some point, he's like, "Well, though, I don't want to want Jean and Scotty to worry." And the guy's like, "Jean and Scotty never have to worry." - It's the coldest wine in the movie. - He's like, "Fuck him, just cuts his jugular." - This could work out real good for me and Jean and Scotty. And he just slashes his throat. Like you said, he fucking hates Jerry. And the scene in the diner where Jerry's trying to be like, "This is my deal, wait, no way, you don't know." Like he, oh my god, he hates all this stuff too. So his husband, if I don't like whoever she marries, I'm going to turn into this guy. - So he's going to be fine. - So he and Ben will be fine. - I had this on an understandable question. It's like, what is it like if you hate your son-in-law? It must be really bad. - Pretty tough. - The stuff this son-in-law would be what? Pitching you on like a player podcast that you had to do. - It's like, "Come on, Bill, this is my deal, okay?" - This could work out real good for me and Zoe. - Because his teeth is on fire. - People they play as podcasts are done. They're coming back. The Minnesota snapshot we get here of the Paul Bunyan statue, the accent, college hockey, crap bars, motels, buffets, bar girls, kind of sort of escorts. - True coat being really important for your car. - God, that's a great scene. - It's just a really good slice of life. - You didn't mention that scene. - Yeah, see that scene with that guy pissed about the true coat. - I love it. - I think it's Ethan Cohen says that is verbatim something that happened to him. - Really? - It's like coming down to be like, all right, we finally agreed on a price and he's like, I fucking slipped the true coat charge on you right under the last second. - And they get it in. - Yeah, 'cause he's like, I don't have my car anymore and now I'm down here in the middle of the winter. - And I gotta damn thing, yeah. - The guy in the scene so badly he doesn't wanna swear and he goes, fucking liar. He's like, the way I calm down, calm down. - Yeah, I gotta talk to my boss. He says he can knock $100 off that true coat. And guy, that seems great. - I have some of the accent stuff which we talked about, but I think my favorite one is your darn tooth. - Yeah. - Oh, fantastic. I don't know how you even write that. Where do you guys think this is an unanswerable questions, but just 'cause of an accent thing, do you think Carl's supposed to be from Minnesota or is he from out of town? - All right, so he knows a lot about Minnesota including like where to get laid outside. - He knows all about the glass ICS building. I think he's from the Midwest, not necessarily from Minneapolis. I think he's from the Midwest. - Okay, 'cause he's like, oh, daddy. When the guy gets shot in his lap. - Yeah, that's a weird thing to say. - And he's just like, it's a weird thing to say. He also like, seems pissed at Jerry and Wade and people to be like, you guys are so annoying like how nice you are. You think you're big time. - That's what you mean. - Oh, it's so good. - I think it's possible he's from like Sacramento. - I don't think it's from California 'cause he seems pretty used to the Northern winds, but like I came from being like Peoria or Julia or something. - Do you have any of what saves the best? - Of all the language things, I like ending a phone call with real good then and hanging up. That's how they say goodbye in the accent, including the best part is when Carl's saying, I'm gonna shoot you and your wife and all your little fucking kids in the back of the fucking head, be there and Jerry goes, all right, real good then and throws up. I love ending a phone call that way. Throwing the phone down like that. One more break and then we'll do the rest of the categories. All right, great shot Gordo, we did it. - Got a couple, Paul Bunyan towering over the night sky. - Scary. - Looks a lot like Gary. The innocent couple driving by a state troopers murder scene, Jerry going past the parking attendant, that sort of like then sort of going into danger in that way is really great. - I got opening scene. - Yeah. - Chest Rockwell, Brocklanders were best character name. Would you go Marge Gunderson or Jerry Lundegarde? - I would go ship Proudfoot. - Ship Proudfoot. - Ship Proudfoot's great. - And it's even great when the little deputy comes in he goes ship Proudfoot, that's a name. Like they actually acknowledge how cool the name is and when Marge has Mr. Proudfoot, it just sounds awesome. I love it. - What do you have for a flex category here? - Oh, okay. - I don't know if the kid cut it 'cause we didn't really have a needle drop. - We did Sean Penn, brought my own pack. I had the Richard Chetty guard meet award for the most memorable death by a security guard or other bystander whom the movie treats is inconsequential. We probably had a spouse and kids who loved it. For the state trooper who gets top in the head shot. - I mean, you could also go for the poor parking garage guys. - Sure. - There's a lot of like, - Or you could go for the two kids who are just driving by and just trying to get away and they fucking flip their guard. - They could have just called this movie guard meet. (laughing) Otherwise it's Sean Penn. I brought my own pack award for Stormer. - The state trooper is a great trooper too. He picks up on the bullshit and sees the tags. - Here's the, here's the, - Show's the driver's license and only shows his picture. - He's trying to pay him off. - Yeah. - I mean, he's got the 50 hanging out of the top. - He's like, "I'll just pay for it here in Brainer." - Want to be in compliance. - Which is Girlfriend Award week link of the film. - This is tough. - I mean, I think people would put in Mike Yanagita that I watched in the same movie, isn't it? - No, I mean, I think that's an important scene. I don't have a week link. - I think the only week link could be if you're someone who was really turned off by graphic violence, like the-
would shipper. I'm not that person. You know, like if, if, like, I don't know if my wife would like the state trooper scene and she might like, I don't like that movie because of that. But for if it's too flippant, if there's something about the violence that doesn't feel like, wait, we have to say that it's, I mean, it's, it's so much. I have a weakling that's really a picking knit, but it could, you could talk yourself into it. Like, Scotty's just not curious enough of where's mom is a teenager. I know, but I was trying to think of my own son. If my wife would just disappear to, you know, where, how many days before he would have been like, Hey, where's mom? What the fuck's going on? Why are you on the phone all the time? I think, I just think kids are a little more perceptive than he asked. Like, are you going to call the cops? Are you going to call Stan? And like, he's nervous for sure. I think the kid calls the cops. At some point, the kid's like, my mom's gone. I want, I need to tell the police because he says to his dad, like, we should call the cops and he's like, no, like he's, he really like puts the whole part of that not calling the cops as a borderline weakling. It's very, I think it's very compressed amount of time too. I don't think it's like a week and a half of them, like, kicking around, really. One of the lessons of this movie, call the fucking cops. Sure. That was the father in law's mistake. He's like, no, no, we can't bring him in here. Scotty, maybe, maybe nice to your mom because you never know when she's going to get kidnapped. Yeah, true. Yeah. Come on, Scotty. What's sage the worst? We mentioned how they did the, the Blair Witch move. That was really all I had for with sage the worst because it just seems dopey now because you would just Google and be like, this didn't happen. Why did this fucking guys do this? I think as a character who is aged the worst, if you went into the future in the fictional world of cargo, it would be Scotty totally fucking orphaned, but terrible, probably a multimillionaire because you, why isn't Wade's estate inheriting Wade's estate? Yeah. So now he's running parking lots and all of brainer, I guess. Yeah. It's very dark guy. I would love to see Fargo too, just the Scotty Chronicles. That's the guy that buys the Minnesota wild, you know, like, that's good. But it with Glen Taylor and the T. Wolfs. I guess the other thing that's aged the worst is I personally don't really see a lot of hot buffets getting, getting used up recent anymore. Do you? I see him at the super market has a hot food buffet. It'll be like a sweet and sour shrimp and then like ears of corn. It's always interesting. Yeah. But then I just always think twice about it. I think middle America, it's still going. Okay. There's a big spit guard factor there. Yeah. It's very communal. Even, okay, put it this way, smorgasbord style, like it's all that's a great word. 500 calories per scoop. Yeah. My age the worst was really John Washington. Do you guys now, like, do you sleep with your phone on your bedside table or is it away from where you sleep? It's pretty close. I, I, I, I, uh, flagrantly don't listen to all the evidence not to put your phone near. Oh, you do. I haven't like, within reach. I've done the workings like in another room. Margie being woken up by that phone next to her fucking face with an actual functional bell inside it, like in the middle of the night. Like I, I wonder if like when Ben was this is like holy shit, like that phone is so bad. I'm like, and you don't even know who's calling. It could be an extrovertor or could be some weirdo from high school. The fact that she just picking this up and more than I like, I used to do that, of course, because I was alive for that, but that's aged terribly. Yeah. Not being able to turn your ringer off, but also see what's crazy. And if you took the phone off the hook, it would be, yeah, she's probably one of, you know, a dozen cops she's like a certain area and brainards. She's got to have the phone. The buffet for lunch was a good cost. Yeah. As a what sage the worst. When you said smorgasbord, my mouth dried up a little bit. Yeah. It's just like I just, I just, I just very rarely come across him. He's like, I got to hit this chicken fricacy and meatballs before I get back to the afternoon part of my job. Potato salad. When I refer to Kimmel show, we used to have like we'd write, we'd have this big lunch that they would cater every day. They'd bring in like Italian and people would be like, Oh, we should get tired of that or Zanku chicken and get all this food. And we would all like over it. And then it's like, all right, time to write jokes. And we'd all be like, yeah. All right. You even eat like before we do a live show. Like it'll be eight. Oh, yeah. I'm like five hours for pure hot water. So then I was like, we got to stop eating so heavy before we do Joe, like we should get healthier stuff. Every was so fucking mad at me. Yeah. So fucking Simmons. He's co-shin. What do you get salads? Fuck you. Like they want to sandwiches and stuff. But I was thinking about that when I was watching that buffet. I'm just eating a sweet sweetish meatball at 1230 in the afternoon. I wouldn't be able to function after that. Hans Gruber scale villain ranking will do Stormar. I guess for this. How would you write Stormar in this movie though? Is Jerry the most evil person in this movie? I had this in an answerable questions. Is he the worst person in the movie? I actually think he is because he doesn't care about his son at all. Yeah. Stuff to actually care about and doesn't. His wife and his son is just a fucking disposable person. Stormar is just like a social path. He doesn't feel anything. But I think Linda Gard is the most despicable character by far. So in some ways, he's like the biggest villain in the movie. So what rank and would you give him? I have like zero to Gruber. Yeah. Like an eight. He's also the biggest pussy because he's like a little bit below 70. Yeah. He like in they call him out in the first scene. He won't even ask his wife or the bottom off for the money. Oh, and when they catch him in the hotel room and he's screaming like a baby. Yeah. Yeah. He's fresh, fresh in prison. I think Linda Gard can do in prison. Fargo. Yeah. I'm shocked. Love the guy. She's just Linda Gard in prison to be a five-second movie. He's stuck in prison. The skinheads to try to survive. He's just getting killed. Ruffalo, hit a ribbon, a cartridge overacting word. I didn't have anybody but it's hard to give it to this movie because I can feel good. Yeah. I mean, you want to give it to Yana Geeta? No. Like he's these spectacular. He's yelling. It's proud of what goes for it. Like, but he's supposed to, you know, it's cry. I thought it may be the closest. Yeah. Yeah. You motherfucker. You have a flex category, Kyle. All right, flex category. I'm going to do the the Will Campbell award for a character who knows way and over his head and is going to mess it up for the rest of the movie. No, I just made it up. Oh, my God. I haven't seen Bill since the Super Bowl. So I wanted to hit him with some from the Will Campbell award for the character of the short stars. Yeah. I felt like I got shot in the face like Carl. There's an actor. You know, it's not up to the task with the rest of the cast. No, I don't know. I don't know if you have allegedly allegedly. I have Billy Bats award for the most fighting and scalable insults. The scene with him pulling up to that for the parking ticket. Oh, my God. And you're clip on tie. Here we go. I suppose you think you're an authority figure that's stupid fucking tie and uniform of a big guy. You can clip on tie. They're a big fucking man. If these the limits of your life, pal, rule a little fucking gate here. Here's your four dollars. You pathetic piece of shit. God, isn't that erotic? Is this guy you they that shot at the smile just fading and the stupid bad teeth and everything. It's it's it's and then as as this part with that scene changes where he goes, I just pulled in here. And then he has his body goes, I just fucking pulled in here. And then the guy starts honking. Yeah. That scene is so relatable. Like we've all been at that gate and be like, I really have to pay the $4. And even try to like kind of reach out to him. He's like, I've decided not to go on my trip. Turns out, like I'm deciding not to park. I'm not even flying where I thought I was going to pay the $4. That's right. You fucking kidding me. Oh, I got it. Love that part. And it's an amazing put down. That was a good one. Thank you. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been here to support how to take a word. What do you have here? We alluded to this a little bit more opening conversation. But this movie is in direct conversation with no country for old men. And I think, you know, you have the bag of money, the character in over their head, sacrificial wife and a cop who was trying to make sense of the extreme violence that they come across. I thought it was amazing that Marge's last lions basically is like, so that was Mr. Lundergard. That was Mrs. Lundergard over there on the floor. And I guess that was your accomplice in the woodchipper and those three people in Brainerd and for what? For a little bit of money, there's more to life than a little money, you know? Don't you know that? And here you are. It's a beautiful day. Well, I don't understand it. And then at Tom Bell, Tommy Lee Jones in no country just goes to the prime. You see now it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to do this job. But I don't want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand. That's just kind of like that. I've gotten to the sort of part of evil and the darkness out there that is incomprehensible. And it's amazing that these guys are like that in between Corbett and Carthie writes this novel, but that they're kind of making the same story and talking about the same stuff. Interesting. Yeah. Cause that's one of the things I love about no country is he has this realization like, what am I doing this for? Yeah. Like there's some dark shit out there. I'm getting older and I just it's not for it. It's not for me anymore. I think about that when I watch some of these cop movies sometimes, these people, you know, in their early 30s, they're jumping over like parking garage is trying to catch somebody and it's like, at some point you must realize, definitely, the fuck man, there's just going to be another guy coming. I know. I'm doing this. I don't get respect from anybody for it. Remember, I mean, the end of seven, where he's like, the world is a wonderful place and worth fighting for. I believe the first part. Yeah. And the Morgan Freeman's just like, I just saw the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Just on this, this, this still to I think I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. What did you have for this guy? So guy or Grims Rodent storm here in this. Yeah. Of all the insane shit he does in this movie, the wood shipper, the executions, by far the craziest thing he does is calling for a second pancake meal of a day, fucking out. I've never done it. It's, I think it's ever been done. I want to put yourself in a position where you're on a fucking road trip. And then the morning you have a full stack of fluffy, buttery, syrupy pancakes. And you're sitting. It's like media cuts.
- You're sitting, you fucking farting, you're disgusting. - You are change smoking. - You're change smoking for the cost of the patient. - And then in the same day, you're like, let's run it back. I want another stack of pancakes. Carl's first reaction is, what are you nuts? And I feel like the cons are like, we need a creative way to tell people what a lunatic this is. - He's only interested in like cigarettes, pancakes, and killing people. - Not even like, not even pasta or pizza like pancakes. I don't want it in the same week after a plate of pancakes. And there's also this funny detail where the line says, we stop at pancakes house. And he kept going in the coins and be like, I think there's a typo in the script that should be pancakes. And they're like, there's no typos in the script. - Yes, there's some pancakes house, which makes them sound more crazy. It's like, you have a fucking mattress in your stomach all day in that farm. - I'm trying to remember like, this is a great one. Like, when have you doubled cuisine in the same day? - And what cuisine would it be? - Yeah. - Pizza, maybe tacos, like a breakfast three though? Or if we had Joe Hasse here, he would just be rattling house. - He'd be like, oh, I'll do a morning's gumbo and then like a nighttime seafood tower. I could probably be protein, probably not dairy. But you know that Grims was like, that full ice cream scoop of butter on every slice, not to mention the sides. And Karl's like, let's get a steak and a beer. - I know. - And he's like, more fucking pancakes. It's insane. All the other shit, I get why he puts the wood chip, he's the conceal of the evidence. He shoots the cop for self-preservation. The pancakes is inexplicable. - Red or back used to find any Celtic that had pancakes. - Are you serious? - Yeah. - Slow him down. - Just an actual fine. - Are you saying red or back invented heat culture? - Red or back found out you had pancakes. He fined you like 25 dollars. He thought they were the worst thing a human being could eat. - Yeah, they're rough. - They're fucking amazing though. - They're good. - My out of steak. In 1997, a year after this movie, a pilot was filmed for a TV series set in brain or shortly after the events of the film, starring Edie Falco as Marge Gunderson, no involvement from the Cohen's directed by Kathy Bates, the pilot. You can find on YouTube, I sent it to you guys. - It's an amazing what if? - Yeah. - Because if this pilot gets picked up, the sopranos now no longer has Edie Falco as Carmella, who I think there's three people that have to be on that show. Right? If you're going to sopranos, does this show work without these people? It's really only Tony and Carmella. I even think you can have somebody else's melfi and probably be fine. - Yeah. - Pauli Walnats would be my third and he's irreplaceable and one of the most nice people of ever been in the movie. - But it'd only be like, it's a big car. - Apparently maybe so there's four. Yeah, and Periola would be the fourth. But I just think if you take Carmella out of that, I don't think that's the greatest show of all time anymore. So the pilot doesn't get picked up. Huge what if? It's almost like we have in sports where it's like, there's a team Portland had taken MJ, the fucking world's waste. The ripples go up to, there's no Fargo series from Noah Hawley. - Right. - So you miss out on Pearson Dunst and Jesse Plumman season, the Billy Bob Thornton Renaissance kind of starts on Fargo. - Oh yeah. - Like there's a lot of stuff that comes out of Fargo that wouldn't have happened. - Edie Falco, instead she goes and does us, which leads to sopranos. - She's interested. Because initially they wanted Braco for Carmella. - And she said no. - She didn't want to be the wife again. - Yeah. - She's done caring. - So I wonder if they could have gotten her, probably not. I think it right. Like you can't have that show without Falco. It's one of the greatest performances ever. - You know why she didn't want to be the wife? - Carmella. - 'Cause that's all we had! - Karen! - They would have found it! - So we had! - Casting would have. - Oh no! (laughing) - She's the way she says, "Oh no!" - Cassie would have. (laughing) - I almost couldn't believe this. It had to research it and it's true. I thought I was internet bullshit. And it's just not. Bill Paulman was supposed to be Jerry. - Really? - Bill Paulman. - Bill Paulman was supposed to be Jerry and had to back out had some sort of scheduling conflict. And that's what let's blame H. Macy. - Yeah, Macy talked about how he basically chased the Cohen's across the country doing auditions. - Bill Paulman. - He's way through handsome. Like, he's, the poem in his dashing, like he's romantic leads. - No way. - God, I wonder what he would have for. - Bill Paulman is in the-- - That would have been, that's already in dependence day, right? Like when would he-- - In dependence day? - In dependence day? - He's like 96. - Right around there. - Bill Paulman was in the mix in like a big, big A-list way for like five years. - Sure. - 'Cause even Malice, which we have not found on the rewatchables, but Sierra and I both love. But he's, it's him, Kidman and Outfall would. - Yeah. - It's the three of them. He's in independence day, I don't know, he's-- - He didn't want to sleep in the States. - He didn't want to sleep in the States. - Yeah. Which one of those wider-- - He's not in the States, though. - He's not in the States, though. - Yeah, he's a wider. - He's a wider. - Then they looked at Richard Jenkins for a while and gave it to Mason. - Jenkins. - I don't know. - Jenkins is so good and bright. - Jenkins with the Minnesota accent. - I know. If, if Paulman becomes London guard, does William H. Mason become the President of the United States of Independence day? - That would be pretty good. Wow. It's Jerry and London guard. We will not go quietly tonight. Okay. - Best that guy. It has to be Harv Presnellas. - Wait. - Is that what you had, Chris? - No, I had Larry Brandenburg. - I had Larry Brandenburg, too. - Stan. - Stan Grossman. He's in Shawshank. He's part of the crew. - Yeah. - Think about it. - He is in Shawshank. - Who was betting on the fresh fish. And I just, I had no idea what his name was. Larry Brandenburg has Stan Grossman. Is that what you had, Chris? - That's what I had. You know, it does two episodes of Cheers. - It's a really good one. You might be right. 'Cause the only reason I had Harv, he had it made a movie in 20 years. - That's awesome. - He was like this 50, 60, 70s guy and then retired and then they'd like, pulled them back somehow. - And the best eye for faces. Like, they'll just be like, that's, that's who it is. - And then like two seconds later, he's in private Ryan. He was like a general. - Oh, that's right. - Oh, that's right. He shows up in that movie. - But only one arm guy, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - So the Shawshank crew was, it was, the guy who was in Silent Ridge. - Yeah. - That guy. - I don't know his name, but I know. - It was the Stuttering Guy. - Ray, I believe you're talking about your ass. That guy, yeah, yeah. - The Stuttering Guy, it was Brooks. - It was William Sadler. - William Sadler. - Yeah, yeah, he would. - And then that guy was the quiet guy. - Yep. - Morgan Freeman, there was one more, too. And then I guess the, - Well, there's the guy from the Sopranos, who marries Janice, isn't he in that crew? - Yes. - Yeah, Richie, yeah, Richie and Prielsen. - Yeah, he's a great crew. - Yeah. - D.M. Waiters Award, Steve Park. - Would you have Steve Park? - Steve Park is Mike Young and Gita. - I could offer you a Chef Proudfoot at Steve Park. - It's maybe one of the great deons of, I could offer you, the guy he wanted to pay in 19-5 for his vehicle with no troop car. - Very funny, very good. - And I could offer, I could offer you Jose Feliciano. - Got no complaints. - And I could offer you the two escorts who made the point that he was funny looking in that circumstances. - I love all the offers. - It's Mike Gita. Chris, you just brought me there. I have Janigita on my Waders Rushmore. Like I have Drexel and Tru Romance. I've got Walkin' in Pulp Fiction. I've got Mike Janigita and I've got the Goat Multiple Migs. Like those are my four all time The Young Waders. He's in the George Washington state of Rushmore. Multiple Migs, two lines of dialogues and eternal impression. But Janigita is on that with us. - I would only add John Marley's Jack Wolson, Godfather. - Oh yeah, yeah. - We've had so many good deons. I would love to see the complete list. - Yeah, that sounds like a bracket list. - It sounds like a bracket too. Like it's turnie time. - They did, Roger Ebert did. - That would be a good bracket. - Roger Ebert did a special episode of their show with Scorsese and went to 2000 where they list their top 10 movies in 90s. Scorsese comes on and he says he's got Fargo number four. One of the first things he says in his commentary about this movie that won all these awards is, and there's this amazing scene with this Asian American actor who has given all his emotions out and she's a beautiful scene. Like he fucking loved The Young Waders. Scorsese, it was like his favorite scene in the movie. - Yeah. - It's so, so, so good. - Who do we have for Pulp for Dan? Was it The Wolf? - Or Walkin'. - Walkin' that this watch up your ass. - I think it was Walkin'. - Yes, yeah. - Do you know that the guys, Stephen Park, I know everything about this scene. He's talked about this scene and when he performed it, yet Mike Yanagita, the cones came up to him afterwards and they're like, so fucking funny, hilarious. And he was like really hurt. - 'Cause he's like supposed to be like me. - Like I thought it was, I was like pouring my heart out. It's funny, like they're laughing. He thought it was like a straight dramatic scene. - Oh, interesting. - Yeah. - The fact that he goes same side of the booth and just takes that and takes that risk. - And he's like, I didn't want to create my neck. - I know. - Yeah. - We never done a pod. Do you imagine five minutes and I'm just coming over here? - Chris. - Do you mind if I sit over here? And you're like, no, I'd like you over there. I can see you better. - I've got it. - I'm just sitting like this. - So I'll do Yanagita for the rest of this pod. - Because if she was all right with him sitting there. - Oh my God. - There are 15's, he's going in for the kiss. - Yeah. - I have a take on that that like Yanagita has a room. - Oh, he's got a room, he's got a room with the radison. - He's been there. - He's been there for lunch at the radison. - No, no, no. He's suited up. - Oh. - He's got like a scotch. - This is everything. - Hold on. - And Yanagita's defense. - Go on. - She suggests the radison. It's a fucking hotel. - Do you think he mentioned the radison? - Do you think when he's watching her on TV, do the press conference or get interviewed about this case? He can see that she's pregnant. Or does she have a big coat on? - I don't know you can see. - But you think he's like pregnant fetish? - No, I just think it's like, I wonder when she walks in, if she's really pregnant.
woman on top and pregnant or two trimester to wood shipper. I think he's like press ball. Yeah, I think so too. I think when she orders the Diet Coke, he's like shit. Yeah, yeah. Recast the couch director. She wants you to get like a long island. Yeah, you know, I wonder I would hope if she would not leave that drink on a tentative either. Like I think that everything's on the table. I got it. It's not good. Not good. Recast the couch director city. You can't do a different city. Can we test drive? Go on. Robert DeVal is the father in law. Yeah, give it a test drive just because he passed away recently. Yes, sticking like a little more firepower for that character. Is that do anything for the McDonald's? It didn't finish. Yeah, he'd be fantastic. The thing I like about it is like these guys pick this dude out of relative obscurity has an actor from 20 years. It looks like the role of his lifetime, the role he's been meant to do. Yeah. And he does the exact thing they need him to do. And sometimes it's like, you know, when he brings like a 70s. We like what a Brando could do this. And it's like, well, what if Brando then ruins the movie? You know, he shows up to and in face off right after this. Like he got caught. Yeah, he's in face off too. Like he directors were picking and they liked them. I have a certain research. Stormar has 18 lines of dialogue. Great. Never says more than what I think most of it is in the pancake conversation. Yeah. You know what it makes me think of our guy right here. Very few lines of dialogue, machine like killer. It's it's it's it's it's post of the song. Look at that guy. In his book, stand for something in the battle for America's soul. Ohio governor John Kessich spends three pages describing his hatred for this film. Yeah. Okay. What's his substance? That's all right. I didn't probably hate what it's depiction of a smaller town in America. The pop-in statue is built for the film and dismantled. Wade's cardio ship was filmed in Richfield, Minnesota. Now occupied by a Best Buy. Okay. They're still a Best Buy. King of Clubs was in Northeast Minneapolis, demolished in '03 with ways by low income housing before BS came in with a tiny little investment. Joe Cohen had McDormand and John Carol Lynch can see the backstory for their characters to get the feel of the characters. And they decided Norman Marge met working on the police force when they married. They had to choose which one quit. Norman quit and took up pain. Because Norman doesn't work, right? Like he's a painter. Yeah. He did three cents dance. I see that they work. Yeah. That they went to high school together. Because Yada Gita is like, Oh, you remember her? She was your white ass. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was hilarious in high school. Yeah. The trademark Minnesota, yeah, appears 179 times in the script. Great. That's all I got. Apex mountain. Well, for Apex mountain, certainly Swedish meatballs. Because when you think about what I keep it was doing. Yeah. With their their amazing cafe. Yeah. When you would go against the furniture that you would then get divorced while you put it together. Yeah. And then also this movie I just I don't really know when Swedish meatballs have peaked again. I would also say GMAC financing plans. Sure. I'd rather get from box. Yeah. Just and then true code sealant. Would you say calm brothers? No, I'd say no country is calm brothers. I would say that as well. Macy, it's not yet, but maybe after Boogie nights, we're getting there. Getting the vicinity. Someone argue the cooler when he actually led a movie that had a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. Shame. That's right. The show like people love that show shameless. He was on for years. Yeah. And like I mean, awesome. I never watched it, but I know people like it. Minnesota, probably the world series in '88, '87, Kirby Puckett. Oh, fuck yeah. Or '91. One of those two world series. Kick her back. Greg Agniesz. The '98 Vikings and Mosses Rookie Year in Randall Cunningham and they went to title game. They were unbelievable. KG winning that that first round series. Oh, yeah. Uh, windshield scraper scenes. Yeah. Yeah. Bouchemi. Well, he wins a Golden Globe for that boardwalk Empire. This is my favorite role of his. Yeah. I think there's been bigger moments. I think Conair is probably like, he's got that right after this. He starts being a movie star. He starts doing all the sandwich movies. It's funny. I would probably, I'm not right, but I would probably say Sopranas because he was also directing. Yeah. And when he was in Sopranas, it was just such a big deal. Yeah. It's like, oh my god, they got Bouchemi fans. I know. I'm going to play Tony's cousin. And he was a man. Unbelievable. You can't believe they're doing this in the way his story ended. Yeah. The porch is that's so good. McDormand, no. But I don't know what it is. I think I think Conair was intentionally designed not to have an apex three billboards was like the most attention. I think she got the blue ox. Probably the most fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're having all the time. Shuffle murders. Better shovel murder for you. We dance close to some shovel murders in Home Alone. I can think it's implied. Yeah. This, this, this, this sheet. There's no shovel. Yeah. A bit of a Halloween. There was a good through the face. Shovel murder. But this was pretty good. Fargo. Argo the town. It could have been named Brainer. I mean, the most the action the movie takes place. Yeah. So they they talked about that and said they just like the name Fargo the best thing about them is that like people will spend decades kind of like unpacking their movies and they're like that kidnapping is just cool. Yeah. Yeah. We're just like making movies. It's David Brainer. Yeah. It sounds good. We didn't like it. Fargo sounds much cooler. Stormair, I'm still going Dino velvet. Yeah. I don't care how that was. I think I'm getting. But yeah. I'll do six months after this movie came out. He was in a jungle with Steven Spielberg shooting the last world like. Yeah. What a run. Late 90s was a good run. Oh my god. He was everywhere. Gangling cigarette smoking. There's a scene where Ray Stanson Ghostbusters has one dragon on his lip for like 10 seconds as he's looking at Slimey. It's iconic. That's funny. He let this thing hang and he's like I don't know how they did it because it's really. You know what I'm talking about? It's really funny. Minnesota accents. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Here's my favorite one. In movie disfiguring facial wounds Mount Rushmore. I have one battle. Yeah. Freeway with Keep For Sutherland. Okay. Reese Witherspoon shoots him in the face. And then he's from Verfa Roar or just Fargo. What's the fourth one? It's definitely Aaron Eckhart in Dark Knight. There we go. Two face. We burns half of this face. Yeah, but he even gets shot. No, I'm sorry. I just mean face injury. Well, I think we can sneak that in then. Gus Spring has the same thing. Then a breaking bad like half of his face is melted off just like that. That's true. That's good. Cruiser Hanks. It's Hanks because he thinks this is a perfect movie. And Hanks could have played how many characters. He could have played Jerry for sure. He could play the older Hanks could have played the dad. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he could play the guy shelf one snow in his driveway. He was like going crazy. Yeah. Honestly, he would have been a really interesting storm air. We've never really went. We never got dark hanks. Not that stark. No. Yeah. It would have been disorienting to watch him play somebody that evil. This, the, uh, wrote a petition. He's a killer with a Tommy gun and get some gun fights and stuff like that. But not like this. I have, I have crews written down as storm air. Just because. Oh, I want to see you guys talk about his smoking. Yeah. Like Vincent from collateral. The smoking. He's. I want to see you guys break down the crew's doing Carl more than storm air. Like, Oh, really? Yeah. Crews just be like, you're fucking impossible. I like to cocktail crews. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Scorsese or Spielberg. Clearly, Scorsese, we did best thing. We're saying the two criminals called errors. What I got, uh, the Sarah Connor word for wood modern technology ruined this movie. Yes. Ring cameras, cell phone, pings and texting. I think we catch these guys in five minutes. Yeah. You can't take a license plate off of a parking garage car. And you're just through everywhere on five cameras. Kind of wild that when he, when she gets out to the, the scene of the state trooper being having been shy. It's just two cops. Like, like, you think there would be like, the FBI would be there. Like, there would be like, 30 cops out there and there's just. Yes. Lou, where is everybody? He's like, well, it's cold. Margy. Yeah. That's the explanation. That's right. There's like no one wanted to come out. Pick a nits. We mentioned the title. I have a couple good ones. But what'd you guys have? I'll rattle some. First of all, uh, the London guards would definitely have a dog, which I think would be a fun part of the home invasion. Um, the fact that Scotty does not have a Kirby Puckett poster in his room is ridiculous. Yeah. It doesn't like sports. Um, he's a really soggy, he looks like most importantly though, too. He would have had a North Star's poster or star something. Most important picking it. I know it's a funny line. It makes for a good dialogue. There's no fucking way Carl's uncircumcised. This is a white guy from Midwest. Hello. There's no fucking way. I know it's funny. Now, if you want to talk about storm air, the sweetest guy, then we can talk. Yeah. The Carl is, she says it wasn't. I get it's funny. There's no fucking ways in circumcised. That's a great one. Oh my god. How do you see our month? Uh, why does Carl not take off? Why does he go back for gear and go back to like, be like, Hey, I got you guys on the money. Some money. It's a man of honor. Yeah. Maybe he's worried he'll come after maybe he gives him the 40,000. He's like, I got a million. I was just going to do this right close the end. I'm out of here. But yeah, I mean, you know, why did he bear the money? Because you don't want to show up to the house within the car. Yeah, because then he can always use that as like if he needs to. Well, why haven't you bear buried closer to the house? I don't know because he's half of his face is hanging out. Yeah, I guess he's all right. So I have to. I have the father-in-law never connecting dots. He seemed like a smart guy, a good businessman. Yeah. Jerry needs. He wants the money.
himself for the kid and in 750. That's a good one though. Then the kidnappers want a million. And it's like right in the vicinity. I just sort of been like an unanswerable question is what's what's Jerry got himself into? Is he? They don't want you to know. It's like a suitcase. He's taking out wounds on cars that don't exist. Yeah. Is it to pay for something else or is it to pay for that parking lot? They don't want us to know. Yeah. Or is it just to get rich? They said they had coins literally said we don't we don't want people to think about it. They did the pulp fiction. The GMAC thing when he's just like, yeah, so I'm going to need those wind numbers. He's like, okay. I'll fix it. Yeah. I'm going to have my girl send him right over. Think about his master plan. It's just just right. I'm hard to read and pencil. I know. And that's like that's the perfect price. GMAC said $300,000. They're like, okay, here you go, bud. My patience is at an end. Yeah. Well, I was taking what's the most realistic funny reason that he's down $300,000 or whatever be like him gambling. He got for socks in the 86 world series. He's gambling. Drugs and facts. Playoffs, 93. Yeah. You got to be thinking differently about him now that I know Jerry Lentaker and has a Playboy hanging right there in his bathroom. He might be some sort of pervert or he's like some perks. He's just at the at the diner, you know, that's a very weighted moment. Yeah. He kind of looks just how you doing. Yeah. Like he full up those how you doing to her. It's a good call, Chris. There might be something there with him. I think the father and I would have figured that out. Second thing. Why are the criminals in the car for this long? It did some googling. It's not that far. Fargo to Minnesota, four hours, brainer to Minnesota, two hours, brainer to Fargo, three hours. Why do we have to what do we have to stay overnight, Minneapolis, why do we have to stay overnight anywhere? It's a four hour drive. We do. I'm driving due to three. I think at a hotel and sleep with the same double bed. You're going to do it at three despite the fact that it's complete white out blizzard condition. I have to do pancakes twice with Stormar and then share double bed hookers with him. I want to get to my location and get away from it. Look at this guy. They make it seem like they're driving from like New York. I can't imagine anybody more miserable in this circumstance than you. Yeah. Jesus Christ. The smoking in the car, the window, the personal assault. Oh, my God. Honestly, it's, they say that's a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, kids or agent would have a carcinogen or whatever. Yeah. It's a sociopath behavior. Yeah. Um, okay. Psycho-pricot prestige, TBL bycast untouchable, obviously prestige TV because we had it. Yep. I didn't see the first season of Fargo. I never watched the Fargo TV series, which is a whole, maybe I should, but the first season picks up with what, what happened to the money, right? Yes. They talk about the case. The Sparion. There's a, the case is buried. It goes back. And I think one of the characters is Marge's, I think Ted Danson plays Marge's father or grandfather. I can't remember. I, it's been a while since I've seen it. The billbo's in it, right? Like he's the, the guy who plays billbo in the hobbit. Oh, I should, what? No. That's Frodo. Uh, billbo. Yeah. What's the guy? He's a super famous actor. I thought it was the lead in. Kyle, you're in the wrong room right now. Is he in a home? Yeah. No, no, not in a home. In the new movie. In the, in the hobbit movies. What's that guy's name? Oh, Martin Freeman. Yeah, Martin Freeman. Yeah, I can't remember. I, this thing is, I just haven't seen the Fargo since they came out. I haven't seen shit either. You guys might be talking to another language right now. Yeah. Billbo. No. No. Hobbit. When's the fellowship part? Who would see our money? I would ask for it. Never. It would be funny to do hobbit in this room. And you just aren't there. We just have like a cut out of you. Like, right. Yeah. I've been one of those cages like Shaq caller, a bit of Shaq caller. Yeah. Uh, is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Flores, Zayn Low, or somebody else? Kyle, you want to go first? I go first. Um, all right. So it's March. I'm going to have to really work up for this. Um, I just feel like at that Rattis and I, I think God is there. Mike Janikita, young fella, haha, suited up with the Rattis and Linda Cuxy's second, same side of the boom. Ah. Oh, shit, dude. Oh, no. I'm son of a goddess. No. No. No. My voice isn't right right now. Holy shit. It's March. Let's go. Mike Janikita would be the best name Gus has ever said. Like Janikita. Like Janikita. He would love Janikita. He would love that one. There's a guy in our son now that Derrius Acuff. Oh, yeah. It's just waiting for Gus. You really haven't at college, but, uh, I've asked about Redis. I'm into this draft. Yeah. I've been watching. I watch it. Yeah. I've been watching some holy shit. Gus. I think it's because chef and Grimser, they're one of a kind. They don't fucking talk like they're very violent whereas Carl never shuts the fuck up. And I think that's the worst thing you can do as a criminal is keep talking. One of the things I was learned from these crime movies is you're just more likely to commit more crimes after you get a prison with people you serve time with. So really the move is to when you get out of prison, cut all the ties with the people you're in prison with because that's where they're going to look immediately to see if, well, we see in that wherever that's a level of sophisticated planning that would rob us of so many good crimes. Also when you're in prison, like just don't ever call anybody slick. That's right. Yeah, any sort of nickname don't really have any traits that people could point to. Like sling, yeah. Strangers the whole movie. What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie? I just want to say, I really like the cop jackets. Oh yeah, with the with the fur hood. Yeah, I think if you got like a game used for like, what was her her dumb partners name? Loo. Yeah, game used. Loo. Yeah, Loo. Like, like you do. Like walk and talks around L.A. Yeah. Yeah, when it gets cold, I would also offer a gust of sin motor sign. Yeah, like just have that right over there. Custom motor should be really cool. Yeah, gusts and motors. I was I was really charmed during the Ace Ventura pod listening to Craig Horbeck's naivete about Isatona gloves and Dan Marino. Yeah, he couldn't wrap his mind around just leisure gloves because it's a really weird concept. Carl has driving gloves for the entire movie. It's so good with the open knuckles and everything. That was like great. I think I'm ready to enter a driving glove in my life driving slippers as well. Oh, great. Yeah, I mean slippers. Yeah, I want Carl's gloves and I'd like to just drive to like baseball practice. What are the driving? As you know, I love to drive. What are the driving gloves? Is it better grip? Like, what am I getting out of the fashion? Let's pressure on your hands. So it's like, I think it goes back to when there wasn't power steering and you had to really twist the ball. Interesting. I think it's that old school. Now I think it's stylish. Guys who were just like, I got to drive six hours. My hands are going to get counts. I don't know. Coach Finstack, Mr. Miyagi, where best worst life lesson, there's more to life than a little money. You know, don't you know that? Yeah, that's got to be the life lesson. I had a Mr. Miyagi worst life, the life advice. The kids, the kids, the kids like to say, oh, shoot your shot. Like Mike Yanagi, don't shoot that shot. Yeah. Sometimes you don't shoot your shot. Take the social cues, Mike. Yeah. Yeah. Don't he even. I mean, he was arranged. You know, Linda Cooksy. He was bothering her for a long time. Boothbooth was fast, but I'm out of weight. You don't know how long Mike's been sitting there drinking doers though. Like, maybe he's got a lot of liquid confidence. It looks like a doers. Yeah. I saw the doers feels like a lunchtime at the red. Same color of doers. I wrote down doers. That's so funny, Chris. Again, it defend Mike. I think when she picks the place and it's a hotel, I think you're thinking you're ready to roll. She answered the phone in 1045. Yeah. She's excited. She's she's dressed up in another city with the husband at home. She even says, we've been married a long time in the scene. Like she's got a little excited. She wanted to do anything, but a little walk on the wild side. Yeah. Best double feature choice. No country. Eight millimeter. Double. I want more storm air. I got to written down eight millimeter. One of the most intense theater experiences I've ever had terrified in that movie. When he's walking through a machine. The real millimeter with Kyle. I didn't realize you like the movie this morning. Yeah. We'd have to have Van and it too. We were beginning to be able to do four, four person rewatchables again. Sure. You know, we never bought a new studio recovery project of guys talking about eight millimeter again. I got to go back and listen to the first millimeter podcast. You're going to see things you won't be able to see when he's just looking through his fingers at that shit. It's just rolling out of him. I love that movie. Hardcore is on 2B, by the way. What's your double feature? I have a triple. Oh, great. My God. Raising Arizona Fargo. No country. There you go. Every 10 years. Come on. Check in with the comments. Yeah. I think they won the movie too. I have them for who? It's completely original depiction of the world. You know what I wrote down? I wrote down Minnesota. Oh, where do you go, Kyle? Pre-Randy Moss, Pre-Johmauer, Pre-Jesse Ventura. This Marge Gunderson was like the face of Minnesota Kyle. The early KG KG is on the TV. I don't know it's going to be KG. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Minnesotans might have a love hate with this movie because maybe that makes fun of them. I think this movie had like the only dip in its popularity was like any kind of feeling that it was mocking the people. And this is a criticism to Cohen's get sometimes where it's like, oh, they're making fun of the people that they're depicting. Yeah. But I don't think that's true. I just think that they see humor in it. You know, it's really funny. We're going to throw to Craig who's not here, but he's going to because he's at India. He's on this bus for the combo. Oh, God, I'll be there. I'll be there for anybody who's at the same level as watching the path speed reporter each. But Craig's going to weigh in with his take right here. All right, fellas, what's up? I am in Indianapolis right now, not really, but at the time of this taping I was. So I'm going to respond to here in my own little solo video. And I got to say, guys, I know you're not here right now, so you can't respond to me. But guys, street writing's dead because what the Cohen brothers are able to do with all of their movies, you almost forget how it used to be and how tight things used to be. I looked it up. The Cohen brothers have made one movie that came out in theaters that was over two hours long and it was no country for old men was two hours and two minutes. Outside of that, look at the 80s, the 90s and the 2000s, raising errors on a blood-simple Fargo burn after reading Trugrid. Serious man, all under an hour and 50 minutes. So yeah, I maybe realized street writing is dead. This is a 98 minute movie and it has everything you need. The length makes you want to rewatch it. The scenes are tight. They do exactly what they need to do and they get out and yet it doesn't feel rushed. It never feels rushed. So I love Fargo. I love the Cohen brothers. I was a Phil major in college and I always felt like the Cohen brothers were making movies for young people who love movies and they felt like Phil major movies, not in a stuffy way, but in an attainable way. Like everything they do feels real and kind of hand-picked and like you can recreate it and like it makes you want to go out and do your own stuff. So I've always loved the Cohen brothers. Their movies are always slightly off-balance. You kind of always watch with your head tilted a little bit and they're really funny. Dark, twisted, funny all the time, all of their movies. Also one of my favorite things about Cohen brothers movies in general and specifically with Fargo is the casting. Everybody in this movie looks like a real human being. Bill Macy, Peshemi, Francis McDormand. All the way down. John Carroll Lynch, who's been in like four of the last five rewatches we've done, Peter Stormhill, and keep going all the way through. They all look like real people and I just think that makes such a difference and it's a little different now. The way that things are casted and half of the side characters we have now, I have like need to have 500,000 Instagram or TikTok followers to be casted in a movie so that you can market a little bit more. But they all feel like real people and the person now who I think is doing that similarly is Tim Robinson, who when you watch a show like the chair company or his movie friendship or things like that, everyone in those movies feels real and it's fascinating and to me it just, it makes you more invested in the story. So I love the Cohen brothers. I love Fargo. I think the scene where both of the guys are having sex in the motel next to one another followed by the four of them watching the tonight show is one of the funniest scenes in movie history. So that is my review of five out of five on letter box. Thanks guys. All right. Thanks Craig. I can't believe Craig has a thing for pregnant woman. That's so fair. I respect it, buddy. Respect it. Really hardcore. That's it. Well, we did it. See our my two in the books. How do you feel Chris? Three movies left. So far so good. Good. Yeah. You know, it's a lot of pressure. I've had three movies mapped out. We have a couple mapped out. We have three mapped out. We know we're ending the month with like confidential. Yes. And there's two more that we don't know. We're negotiating with each other. Yeah. Well, it's your call. Yeah. We even like dive that in Netflix. We dive that in Netflix for this. Yeah. So we'll see. Find it on other. I like confidential ends the month. How about I give you your balls back. You walk sucker. I fucking love bud white. I'll be listening to folks. We'll be off the stage to say. No, that was watching Gus and Zane back to back. Oh, my God. It's an honor to be here. So good. I felt like I was at a buffet with excuse me, Paul. Check the fricking thing. Thanks to Gahoud and Eduardo as well. And see our month. We'll be back next week with a movie we've talked about. I think it's the movie. Should we just say what we're going to do next week? What would we do next week? Well, we were talking about a certain movie that we'd been talking about for a long time. That risk that became available. Any of the cruisers? Oh, shit. That's been years. I've just got to do it. Words of music. CR. Thanks, Kyle. Great to see you. Thanks, CR. Great to be here, Bill.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Fargo is celebrated as a near-perfect film, praised for its seamless blend of humor, violence, drama, and storytelling with no filler or wasted scenes.
The Coen Brothers crafted a film that masterfully explores themes of deception, moral ambiguity, and the hidden evil lurking in ordinary lives.
Key scenes, like the escort encounter and the snow globe with a dead body, are highlighted as pivotal for both plot and thematic depth.
Bill Macy’s performance, especially as Jerry, is lauded for its emotional complexity and the subtle portrayal of a man living a lie.
The film’s use of regional authenticity—particularly Minnesota’s culture, bar life, and mundane details—adds to its realism and relatability.
The movie’s structure and pacing mimic a "perfect game," with every scene driving the narrative forward and offering emotional or narrative payoff.
The film’s influence on modern storytelling is noted, with comparisons to shows like *Barry* and *The Sopranos*, especially in its handling of crime, violence, and character psychology.
Despite critical acclaim, Fargo was overlooked by the Academy, raising debate over its legacy and the value of its achievements in film history.
Summary:
The rewatchable discussion centers on *Fargo* (1996), hailed as a near-perfect film by the Coen Brothers, blending satire, suspense, and deep human drama into a tightly crafted 98-minute experience. The conversation emphasizes its flawless structure, where every scene serves a narrative or emotional purpose, and its exploration of deception, moral chaos, and societal norms in rural America. Key performances—especially Bill Macy’s portrayal of Jerry Lundergaard and Frances McDormand’s nuanced role as Margie—are praised for their emotional depth and authenticity.
The film’s regional flavor, from the King of Clubs bar to Minnesota’s cold, isolated landscape, grounds its absurdity in realism. Notable scenes, such as the escort encounter and the opening shot of a snow-covered highway, are analyzed for their narrative and thematic significance. Critics also note the film’s influence on modern crime storytelling, drawing comparisons to *The Sopranos* and *Barry*.
Despite its acclaim, *Fargo* was overlooked by the Academy, which adds to its mythic status. The discussion highlights how the film’s unrelenting pacing, layered humor, and emotional complexity make it a timeless rewatchable. It also reflects on the cultural context of 1990s America, where regional differences and overlooked communities shaped storytelling.
Ultimately, the conversation celebrates *Fargo* as a masterwork of genre-blending, character depth, and narrative precision—one of the most influential films of its era.
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Fargo is praised for its seamless blend of genres, every scene having purpose, and no filler. It’s lauded for its tight script, outstanding performances, and the way it explores themes of crime, deception, and human nature with both humor and deep emotional impact.
The opening scene, featuring a truck towing a dead body on a snowy Minnesota highway, sets the tone with its stark realism and minimalism. It immediately establishes the film’s unique style and the idea that evil can emerge from the most ordinary places.
Bill Macy delivers a standout performance as Jerry Lundegaard, a man living a lie. His portrayal captures vulnerability, irony, and internal conflict, making him one of the most compelling and relatable characters in the film.
The escort scene is both a comedic and emotionally pivotal moment. It's important for character development, showing how Margie begins to question the lies around her, and is seen as a key scene that deepens the film’s themes of deception and truth.
Fargo moves at a rapid pace with no wasted scenes, covering complex plot points in under 98 minutes. This tight structure creates a sense of urgency and keeps viewers engaged, mimicking the intensity of a real-life crime story.
Fargo suggests that evil isn't confined to grand crimes or cities—it can emerge from ordinary people, mundane places, and small decisions, reflecting a deeper commentary on human nature and societal norms.
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