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That was good. Guys approach, back, relentless refusing to give up. All right. Hit that horn, baby. Welcome to the fantasy flex podcast. From Action Hour to Fantasy Labs. I'm your host, Kevin Moss, Red John. NFL Week 8 is here and I'm joined by one of the most accurate anchors in the game, Sean Kerner, the odds maker. Quick reminder that all of our fantasy football content is available now over on fantasylabs.com. Fantasylabs NFL includes in-season rankings, waiver wire, and DFS tips, and much more. Make sure you use code flex 20 for 20 dollars off at fantasylabs.com/flex. And we just had another fun weekend of football. I'm finally, you know, getting back to almost 500 in my home league. That's what really matters we know. But Sean, how was your week 7? Same. Yeah, I think I won pretty much every league I care about, including my dad's league, the most important one. Again, I think the way I worked out my team, I had like everybody on by week 7, so I got smoked by my brother. And then this week I was back and just absolutely crushed whoever it was I played. But yeah, that's, that's team. I actually have Kyron and Blake Horim on the same team and I ended up playing both this week. So we got to love it when they both score. They both have a good game. But yeah, good to hear you're, you've never won your home league yet, right? This is the year it's going to happen. 11 years, I want to say maybe 12. Oh, man, bad memory. It's true. I've had multiple, you know, championship appearances, multiple top three, four finishes. It's just that it's just so evasive. Getting that, getting that final W like one other leagues, but those don't count. Those are like, you know, my girlfriend goes to another school. Nobody believes you. It doesn't matter. The home league is, it's the crux of course. I'm sorry, like the Josh Allen of that league. Essentially, like good, making the playoffs just can't go over the edge. Just can't, I think I've been cursed since like the first or second year. I had like Eddie Lacey Levy on Bell. I had like three monster running backs. I forgot who the third one was. But like in the final, I ended up starting like Jay Cutler. And he, I remember vividly him, him shading his pants. Just because like, that was the difference. Just not having a quarterback. And I fought, I have a quarterback, I have Drake May, the schedule. And he's been killing it. Drake and Colston Lovelin basically on Thursday at football last week. Got me the way. Oh, yeah. So I week seven, I was sitting pretty and I hope all of you were as well at home. Because you know, we're here to help. And we have the waiver wires. Today, we'll go position by position. See who's still available and mostly is that you might want to keep an eye on. Sean Starr and Suffolk quarterback. I'm going to go to Jacobi Berset, who's available in 73% of leagues. But he's always a guy that's in play as a streamer if he has a good matchup. And that is certainly the case this week. They face the Cowboys. They're going to Jerry's world. So that that game has, you know, it's tied for the highest all the week at 53 and a half. One of those games where I think Jacobi's going to be forced to throw. They had that game against the Rams a couple weeks ago where they, they were able to just lean on the run game and they beat the Rams. This is a game I think is going to be a shoot at. And we see like Jacobi, Yolo Ball here. He also took a huge shot last week. I thought he was going to get knocked out of the game. I thought it was going to be Carson Beck time. But he's a tough guy. So he stayed in there. So he's, you know, still the starting quarterback for now. But he's also been kind of tapping. And it was rushing upside a little bit more. He's had 15 plus rushing yards. Three of the last four games. So he's not, you know, a total mall Santa. But he's inside my top 10 this week, my QB nine. He is just a one week rental next week. They go at Seattle. He might be outside my top 20 there. And then yeah, it's only a matter of time until they do start Carson Beck, I think. Because, you know, they're two and five. They got a brutal schedule coming up. And, you know, we always talk about it. They're by his week 14 after that. It would make sense to kind of pivot to the rookie. And they have like an amazing schedule at that point. But yeah, Jacobi, this is the time to plan. I think he's a top 10 option here against Cowboys. Yeah, it's kind of a no brainer. It's Jacobi per set against the worst defense in the league. I mean, their defense is allowing the most points per game. I believe Dallas is a very close Dallas is up there as well. Jacobi said to top eight weeks. Can't be mad at that. It's just kind of been sad watching. They lead the league in pass attempts per game. But he has like one of five point seven yards per attempt. The way it's like, it's a hot dog. You don't want to see how the sausage is made. But you're going to get the points. Yeah, you're going to get the points. Yeah, well, yeah, I definitely don't know what I know what's in a hot dog. Yeah, you don't. You don't, but you'll get the points. You'll get the points. You'll get the winners. The volume, the volume is all, volume is king as always in fantasy. God, and hopefully it's a Michael Wilson week for the managers out there. Because that's been that's been evasive as well. Well, he took over he took over the Marvin Harrison role. Don't remind me because I'm starting him in a league or two. And that's been fun at all. I look at it like, yeah, no, it's just kind of it's an obvious start. He's in my top 10 as well. So I'm happy with Jacobi if you end up with him. Especially like obviously with my weeks, you know, or injuries. I'm not sure who is really injured right now. But Carson Beck, uh, there's no benching risk yet. Because Carson Beck's not practicing apparently. So it's going to be Jacobi even if he struggles in like the first half. So that should be, you know, it's a safe, smart play. Yeah, I don't think he's that again. I think they'll keep it close enough where I don't think we're going to get like them down by 30 or anything like that. And then, yeah, their schedule is so brewed like Carson Beck is banged up. But their schedule is so brutal. We've got through this schedule before. Their schedule is so brutal that they can't just throw Carson Beck out there at Seattle or something like that. They got to wait until they get like a friendlier matchup at home. And that's going to be a month or two before that even happened. So Jacobi, he's getting paid. He's getting paid good money this year to kind of like just be taking these hits, you know, until like week 15. Yeah. So no bench risk, just start Jacobi, and don't watch. We, I mean, maybe watch who knows? Like, I mean, this defense is so bad, they give 21 to Tanner McKee, Damian Pierce for a few runs, looked like, like, sake one end of the day is interesting, so it was bad. But like, yeah, and hey, Dallas's defense is one less game this one less rest day, this week. So, I mean, yeah, yeah, sake one was able to run all over them with one leg. Yeah. I mean, and Jeremy, I love might be back. So that helps them. I think, you know, don't be so, you know, disheartened if you're starting Jacobi. It's not the end of the world. But I'm going to throw out Geno Smith. If you don't land Jacobi revenge game, the Raiders, this is, I mean, 45 and a half point total. It's not, it's not terrible. It's pretty average. But, you know, we look at Jacobi. Oh, no, sorry, not Jacobi. Geno, the old lines, one of the best, Garrett Wilson, they got to pepper him. They got to, he's due. So targeting your best guy is nice. 80 Mitchell's back, you know, nice little distraction down field. Omar Cooper is top five fantasy wide receiver over the past two weeks. Kenyant Sedeek's healthy Mason Taylor eight last week. They have the weapons. Bruce Hall might be back. So that's huge. This offense is sneaky. One of the most talented in the league, you know, really good for whatever rookie or whomever they get for 2027. But for now, Geno Smith has a great matchup. The Raiders defense is bottom eight right now. They are, I mean, you know, they got max crossback. That doesn't really matter too much. They drafted kind of well, but I'm looking at it like Geno Smith. If you don't get Jacobi Berset, Geno's in my, he's in my top 14. So I like him a lot for this week, especially again, if you have by weeks impacting you. I don't mind Geno. Yeah. And again, with Janty struggling between the tackles, they're throwing a ton and they're throwing a Janty who's been a really effective receiver. So how do you feel on Geno? Yeah, I'm a little bit lower. He's kind of in that mix of like QB 15, the QB 20. He's going to be in that range. I have like a five way tie, five six way tie right there. I think this is a matchup. They might be able to just, you know, run the ball pretty effectively. It's also going to be a squeaky wheel game for Garrett Wilson. I'm not sure if you saw, but he was chewing Geno out on this eyeline. Probably reminding him that Mason Taylor was not rocked ours and that he needs to be targeting Garrett Wilson more. But they have Omar Cooper Jr. So I mean, it can't fault, can't fault Geno for targeting him heavily. But again, I just love all the pieces in this passing offense. 80 Mitchell also returned. He didn't do much, but like he has a ton of weapons to deek. So this could be like an explosive passing offense. I'm just worried that they're going to be pretty effective running the ball against the Raiders. But yeah, I think Geno's pretty sneaky. Yeah, 25th against the past 31st to get the run. I think could definitely, you know, just run the ball. But again, you know, who knows maybe Geno wants to press it on him? I, yeah, revenge game. I mean, if you don't get percent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And again, the revenge, I have a revenge game factor. I haven't even applied that yet, but usually that does add point or two. So I'll give you that one. Yeah, it's always fun. And who knows? I mean, maybe he doesn't hate it, but it did work for Kenneth Walker, though. Because again, that was a real match up. I'm that way. Also, what do you do not start Kenneth Walker? You're just hoping for it to be a revenge game more than anything. Okay. Moving on to running back, who's your top running back ad for the week? Yeah. So I mean, he probably shouldn't require the biggest bid this week. But I think Seth McGowan is the sneakiest ad because he's available in 92% of leagues. You know, there's trade rumors swirling around Joth and Taylor right now. And I think there's some, like, some legit reasons there. If you read the tea leaves, first of all, his wife made a TikTok talking about it. He doesn't seem too pleased about that. He's like, please ignore my wife's TikTok, which you'd never want to be in a position to say. But she was saying, like, looks like we might get traded. You know, that things aren't going well this year. And then just if you look at how they use Seth McGowan alone this week, he saw a season high in snap share touches. He had 11 carries and a one score game against the Vikings. So if they were like legit trying to like beat the Vikings and, you know, I don't know, keep Joth and Taylor. You would expect a 20 plus carry game from him. Instead, they gave Seth McGowan a lot of the work. So something's going on there and it would make sense to kind of trade Taylor. Well, they can. So I think you got to add McGowan now. If you wait and let's say Taylor gets traded later this week, then you got to blow your entire load on Seth McGowan. You don't want to do that either. So this is one of those guys. You just kind of have to stash for cheap while you can and just see what happens. And if the trade deadline passes and you don't want to just have a handcuffs sitting on your bench, then you could drop them. But I think this is the kind of guy you got to add now before it's too late. But even let's say they trade Joth and Taylor away. He doesn't have much competition. They have DJ Giddens would be his backup. I don't think he'd factor in that much. They're practice squad. You know, they have Dave on booth in Anderson castle. I project these running backs every year and preseason. I know pretty much who everybody is. I don't know who those two guys are. So I think he would just be the workhorse back. And that's kind of his profile. He would be a workhorse back. So I think you got to add something like that now while you can for super cheap. How much of a bed do you think he would even require? Because I think people are onto this potential trade. So, you know, what, 5, 10% should be plenty? Or, yeah, I don't over do it. Again, it's Jonathan Taylor. So special obviously McGowan would take over as the workhorse just given his profile. Six foot, two, 23, you know, productive in college, 25 year old rookie. People are going to be like, oh, 25 year old, seventh round pick. DJ Giddens was drafted last, no, it's going to be McGowan. He's just, he profiles as it. And you know, get in struggles in past pro. So he doesn't get on the field much. He's also just might not be good. But I mean, yeah, 5 to 10% totally. But if you're desperate, you're in a deeper league. I'd be willing to drop what 25 to 30% if you need a running back. If that's like the case, this is, let's say like 12 team deep benches or like, I don't know, like for two teams. Like, well, how about this? What do you think the percent you're more into this beat than I am right now? On like Jonathan Taylor, percent chance that he gets traded. Do you think it's over 50%? Yes, I think it's definitely, I wouldn't say it's like 90 plus percent. But I would put a higher than 50% for sure. So it's likely I absolutely want McGowan on my bench. Yeah, because they play the Jaguars this week. They're, you know, they're probably going to lose their seven half point dogs. So if they lose this week, you know, the odds probably go up that it gets traded, right? So, um, and he probably, he both running backs probably struggle this week against Jaguar. So I just think the odds are, you know, only go up. More people are going to be in tune with this potentially happening. So I think this is the last chance you have to get him at like a reasonable price. Um, and he kind of gives me Zach Moss vibes. If you remember, Zach Moss, few years ago when, uh, Taylor was out, right? Zach Moss was what an RB one. Um, I, I could just see him just being in a workhorse role. And just being a solid back, um, again, like you kind of have to value the running back himself. It again, like you said, he's a seventh round pick, probably not going to be, you know, a complete stud. But running backs are fickle. So we've seen plenty of seventh round backs, you know, be productive. So I think just he's going to be in a situation where he's going to see guaranteed volume and decent of juice to like be a pretty good. I think he could be like an RB two, the rest of the way. Um, if they train all the Taylor way. So I mean, this is the last chance you can get him, uh, at a reasonable price. So I think you just got to do it if, um, yeah, if you have, even if you have the, like, uh, who would you cut to get him? Like, I, I think I'd be okay. Cutting Keith Mitchell at this point. I think everybody thinks I'm just sitting here hoarding chargers players. I don't know what people think I'm doing. But like what, so we're going to be the chargers. What are you talking about here? You could let go of LG or BAM night, uh, especially with love coming back. Yeah, I love, uh, just like wide receiver fodder like Jacobi Lane. Like I know Lamar is coming back, but when you're ever going to start Jacobi Lane, really, you want to start. I, I definitely think he could be productive. I definitely think he could switch to touchdowns. We're never going to predict that. We're never going to predict the right weeks to do that. Yeah, just like middling wide receivers, middling or a lower end handcuffed. I look at McGowan like a true freshman year at Oklahoma. I mean, he was a pretty good prospect. Yeah. He was out producing Ramondra Stevenson per touch. He had eight yards per touch, 7.4 for Ramondray, four touchdowns for McGowan, seven for Ramondray, who had about like 48 more touches. He was, he was a good prospect coming in. He just, he had off-field trouble. He was like, he was very, he was an idiot. But in the NFL now, it's, you know, fair game. And if Taylor's dealt, you're, you're starting McGowan weekly. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, especially these heavy bi weeks, there's any more injuries at the position. So, and I think he'd be best position for most of the back. up because again he doesn't have that much competition behind him but yeah again I don't know who people who like everyone's roster on their bench be at Jacoby Lane's a great example I'm in a dynasty league where you can start like seven receivers and I'm not even starting Lane and Natalie so I don't know why you'd be holding him obviously he has you know talent and upside but back up tight ends like if you have George Kittle and you have Mark Andrews on your bench cut Mark Andrews to add a guy like McGowan you know like you try to you probably want to have as many like upside running backs as you can and like you said those white receivers that you're not playing anyway you can just kind of get rid of them I don't know that's just how I handle it as I try to have as many upside running backs as possible because those are the guys that you have to spend you know your entire fab on if you know something happens to the starting running back or they have a good game and leapfrog like those are the guys that require the biggest bids so that's why I like to hoard them I'm a hoarder I am a hoarder as well so I'm with you yeah backup defense backup kicker backup tight end backup quarterback if you have a stud if you have Joe Barrow if you have Josh Allen if you have obviously Lamar Lamar is the like okay a backup quarterback is very warranted completely with Lamar but like it like even back if you have back or like Caleb may etc etc like those guys outside of my weeks you shouldn't be rostering a backup quarterback pretty much I know Caleb has a tough match up this week so there are situations but for the most part like you should have handcuffed running backs like okay like a Josh Downs I would hold on the off chance that he or not even off chance he might get traded but like Keenan Allen he's pretty much stuck on the Colts rest of the season I don't want that get get rid of Keenan Allen oh he's got a hear extension potentially coming up yeah it's like guys who just you don't want to star it's like death like you could get those points off the waiver wire it's caught them so yeah pick up a Seth McGowan also pick up Jonah Coleman he's available in 65% of leagues obviously he's been a hot name throughout the season he had the ankle injury but he's healthy now he led the Broncos in Snapchat and his first game back from IR and looked damn good he's useful in past pro was he was pretty much a workhorse in college he wasn't like a hundred percent touch share in Washington or Arizona but he was getting his share of touches I look at Jonah Coleman like if they don't trade for Jonathan Taylor Jonah Coleman is in that RB2 conversation like maybe even high end RB2 rest of season just with this Broncos offense needing to lean on the run and bonix being a check down merchant we know RJ Harvey is a talent to receiver but JK Dobbins looks put him out to pasture if it's Coleman RJ Harvey Coleman is a high end RB2 rest of season in that offense that needs to lean on the run which again they could trade for a running back but if they don't I mean I'd be willing to shell out 15 to 20% right now for Coleman again if you need running back the path isn't as clear as McGowan if Taylor is traded obviously but this is a better offense mix finally ran last week if mix is running that opens up you know that there's he's not Kirk as long as you're not Kirk cousins back there you know the running game is more viable especially with a good o-line where are you out with Coleman oh yeah I'm super high on him I took him in the second round of my pro dynasty league super high on him heading into the year you know he reminds me of like a blend of like Kiron Williams and Blake Horum like he's a legit back yeah he the perfect running back and he's like you know he's backing up JK Dobbins who like usually JK Dobbins is like really good until he gets hurt he's struggling when healthy and it's only a matter of time unfortunately until he gets hurt but like you said like they're already using Coleman in high levered spots I must say like near the end of the game Sean Payton loves him so I think yeah now's the time to get it yeah quite Nelson to the Seahawks that's oh oh there we go so I didn't mean to cut you off but that's no that's a big deal yeah that's a deal that means you got Jonathan Haller's probably like streamer like they get traded now oh yeah we're yeah Seth McGowan really and up those Seth McGowan bids yeah yeah yeah exactly since we since we started talking yeah you got to add at least five to 10% now yeah or tell your league if if no one your league has a clue what's going on they don't listen to this pod you know then maybe you can get away with a 5% bid you do you though we don't know your league but yeah I would I would try to get Seth McGowan immediately yeah before I would have said Coleman McGowan is pretty you know I would have leaned Coleman just for the offensive sake but just given the likelihood now and the touch share that McGowan could get definitely McGowan is easily number one yeah but I love cool I think you could still get Coleman pretty cheap right because I mean he didn't do what he didn't he didn't rush for like three touchdowns at 100 yards or anything like that but you know people like us can see like the underlying usage yeah 54 yards rushing 15 receiving I don't know a lot of people are going to be flocking out to get him they should but I think you can get him for a decent bid still but if like Dobbins were to go down then it's like the cats out of the back everybody knows to get him so I think now's still the window to kind of get Coleman while you can but yeah I think he has a ton of upside good offensive line you know good defense just all the ingredients for him to like be good if he runs away with the starting job and RJ Harvey you're not too worried about him right he's got his own receiving role basically I don't think I'm too worried about him yeah Harvey's more of a gadget Harvey is Lee you know design targets he's he'll get his rushes but he's not out there in Passport he's not like the third down back he's yeah very much so like the juice he's or the Joker in this Sean McVeigh or not Sean Payton offense that is always oh you got to have the Joker role and it's like oh Evan Ingram that's 600 yards I made it fun excellent he's excellent in this you know Joker limited role don't get me wrong but still I don't think it's enough to like worry too much about Coleman if if Dobbins gets completely phased out which I think is possible at this point or injured you know Coleman would you know he'd push 15 and 20 touches even with Harvey there yeah and I'm just going to throw out Dylan Samson and Kaylyn Black if you miss out on these two guys those are great ads Dylan Samson looked amazing and his first getting back from a knee injury Quinchon Jutkins I mean he had a fantastic game but you know with his share of touches he could get hurt and it's always nice having a talented handcuff back who you know has some flex viability with his receiving role and then Kaylyn Black just CMC as a mild hamstring but CMC could get hurt at any time yeah so that's always how it's just gonna throw those how many leagues is a black 72% leagues what are people doing it widely available what are people he should be available in like like what 5% of leagues I'm not the 25% let's say you know there are some shallower leagues that we can't say you can't have even a handcuff so and Johnson Kaylyn Black I consider them similar I I would say Black would be like a guaranteed high-end RB two of McCaffrey misses time sure you know like because again Shanahan he just wants to use one back he doesn't mess around with rotations all the shit he would just use black as like the CMC role and yeah CMC is just constantly dealing with something he's constantly going inside of lines getting something worked out he's missed a ton of time he's what 30 something years old so I think Kaylyn Black has got to be one of the top handcuffs any black there's been sometimes where we talked about him as being like a flex play even McCaffrey's healthy you know so I just think Black's got to be owned in pretty much every format I know yeah he had that big run he had a fumble but he had a big run as well so I think that negates it he scored a touchdown on it so Black look good and especially with their wide receivers hurt CMC's being used as like a slot you know F type hybrid role whatever you want to call it and that gets black on the field and it gets him some touches you know he hasn't had he hasn't had many targets himself Black but you know if CMC were to go down Black would have a receiving role so that's always nice to see definitely yeah again if you miss out on Coleman McGowan Black is the top guy Samson is just you know deeper leagues you should be rostering him moving on to wide receiver who's your top guy for the week looks like it's a rookie week for us again I'm gonna stick with my guy Omar Cooper Jr. still available in 52% leagues hopefully we were able to get him last week and start him despite 80 Mitchell returning I got kind of shy with my rank on him not gonna lie disappointed in myself but I had Omar just dropouts have I top 40 that'll never happen again but he had another hundred plus yard game and a touchdown he's kind of operating as the clear wide receiver two right now I was kind of interested to see how they would handle with 80 Mitchell coming back and I think they just view Omar Cooper as like the number two receiver right now but he only had a 67% routes one rate which is kind of concerning I think we're gonna wanna see that, you know, over 80% going forward, which I think they will. Again, Omar Cooper isn't some, you know, no name scrub guy. He was their first round pick. Again, he made Fernando Mendoza have that, let's say he was like a big part of Fernando Mendoza's breakout year last year, why he became the number one overall pick and all that. I just think Omar Cooper Jr. is gonna be legit at this level. So I think his playing time should be over 80% going forward, but we have to make sure. But, you know, Garrett Wilson had a quiet game, could be a squeaky wheel game for him. Mason Taylor, you know, is commanding targets and they still have Kenyans to deek. So Cooper Jr. could have some weeks where, you know, he catches two balls for 20 yards. You kind of have to be prepared for that. But the upside's still there. So I still love him as being like the top of your bench and potentially being an RB, you know, White receiver three going forward. So I think the time to get him was like one or two weeks ago. That's when I was buying in on him. What do you think about now? Like if he's still available on leagues, he's gonna go for a shit ton, right? And then I think at that point, I'd be a little bit more careful. 'Cause again, he's not gonna go for 100 yards in a touch on every week. So I'd be a little bit cautious, but like where do you rank him? I consider him like a White receiver three with upside going forward, but where do you kind of see him? And like would you be betting 50% on him or something like crazy like that? Or could you pass? - I would have to have. I would have to be in the three White receiver flex TPR league to do something like that. 'Cause typically like in half PPR, I want my flex to be running back. Obviously Cooper Jr. startable this week as the Raiders. Watch this is the week that he does burn out. I mean, it's an unsustainable 19.1 yards for target and 92.3% can't saturate. Like obviously these numbers are gonna come down, but he's talented. And that's, you want as much talent as you can get. You want an offense with a Geno Smith at quarterback, which is, he's not gonna scramble often. You are, I'm not scared of 80 Mitchell. Kenyansse Deke has clearly not been the same guy since that Lions game. He had the growing injury, but even so, it's like Garrett Wilson, who is in trade talks right now. We're rumors, I guess I still doubt that they trade him just based off to the recent contract and dead cap, et cetera. But who knows, Cooper might end up the White receiver one. And if anything, Cooper might just be really damn good and you start him weekly regardless. But I've been 50% no, what I've been 20% sure. - Yeah, I think so. I think you're right. I think when it comes to these fringe startable White receiver guys, you just want as much talent as possible. That's why I had Brian Thomas Jr. and Lab McConkey, their rookie season, like I just wanted them in every league. Where it's like, you know, they might not pan out, but they're not gonna kill you, being the White receiver to White receiver 40 range. That's the range you kinda just want. Nothing but upside. But again, you just can't be surprised if Omar Cooper has a two catch for 20-hour game. That's what makes fans football fun. There's a range of outcomes here. Again, people screaming at me about Chase Brown, what are we talking about? His routes run rate, again, they're not high enough to be like on every week White receiver three if Garrett Wilson is commanding targets. So again, there's some downside here, but he is so good. And you made a good point. Jio Smith, I mean, he's not the greatest quarterback, but he's accurate. He's not gonna scramble. And he's not shy, not targeting Garrett Wilson clearly. So, I mean, there is certainly paths for Cooper to just be a stud, the rest of the way. So that's why I still want him. And yeah, going forward, I mean, imagine if Garrett Wilson misses time, not that he's traded, but if he misses time, Cooper Jr. is gonna be White receiver two going forward. So he has a lot of paths just being a league winner. And you know, there's gonna be some weeks where he's gonna be underwhelming. That's just the nature of the beast here at White receiver three, White receiver four rookies. But again, he's one of those guys that I kind of want to invest well, you can. And he's gone apeshit the past couple of games. So Kat's out of the bag. You're gonna have to bid a lot to get him. I don't know if I can do it at this point, but hopefully if you're listening, hopefully you just already have him. Yeah, that's pretty much the case with Omar at this point. And I had him in my top 35. I'm probably gonna have him in that same range. Just again, it is so volatile with these types of players. And he wasn't the biggest target owner in college either. So this is, I mean, it's fascinating what's going on right now. And also it's been weird with the jets. They're averaging, they're in the bottom eight of pass attempts per game. However, I mean, Geno's just been so efficient. 7.8 yards per attempt, 4.8% touchdown rate. So those have been pretty good. The 7.8 could definitely come down as career 7.2. I mean, with talented white receivers like this who knows. And I mean, the Jets defense is 21st in DVOA. This is not a good defense. Teams are gonna force them to throw. Breeze Hall coming back definitely helps the running game, Braille and Allen's been incredible on the ground, but again, you can't run if you're down or three touchdowns, which is possible just being on the Jets. Yeah, and again, this week against the Raiders, I mean, the Raiders are scoring points. The Raiders offense isn't much of a problem, even though they're considering benching Kirk Cousins for the first overall pick. I definitely consider a lot of these guys starts. Garrett Wilson obviously, you're still starting him. Cooper's a star, Geno's a star. 80 Mitchell, I know people at high hopes for him, but he might just be what he is or what he has been. And that's just a fall little real life wide receiver three, unstoppable in fantasy. He'll have the one or two big games. But again, like we're talking with Kobe Lane, you're never going to predict them. And if you do congratulations. Best ball guy, we don't need to predict. Best ball guy, exactly. Yeah, don't need to predict which week he's going to actually go off. Okay, moving on to another wide receiver, I want, and you know, as a USC fan, McIleman, I saw how good he was firsthand. Blitnikov winner, incredible. Yes, he's not the fastest. Yes, he's not the biggest, but man, he was getting design targets on Monday night football against one of the worst, if not the worst defense in the league. And he looked damn good. And this was with Tanner McKee. And Don Tevian-Wicks is an ankle. Devantesmith re-injured his hammy. Don Tevian-Wicks, I don't know. It's even on the team in the second half of the season. We'll see Hollywood Brown had some targets yesterday, but he's trade bait. I mean, McIleman has a real chance to be the de facto wide receiver one on the Eagles for the rest of the season. Dallas Goddard might get traded. So that's another option that could be dealt. So Kyle Eman, first round pick, extremely talented, Tark Hogg in college. Is he gonna be the most explosive, like an Omar Cooper? No, but that might be more valuable in fantasy, especially in PPR formats, where he's utilized basically like a scrapback. Like Jacob Sanderson had a great point on Twitter last night on Monday night football. He said this is basically James White Patriots usage for McIleman. They're just optioning him around, they're moving him around using him, getting him on like some crossers with picks. You want this in fantasy. If he's getting the commanders in prime time this week, commanders past defense is one of the worst. I believe they're 30th and bleed. Potentially another start if Wicks and Smith, even if Wicks plays, I'd probably still play lemon. He's gonna be in my top 35. Smith is probably out just given the hammy. Where are you out with lemon? - Yeah, like I'm now as well. I think going from Jalen Hurt's to Tanner McKee helps. I've always said that's gonna kind of boost the overall passing volume, 'cause McKee's not gonna scramble. They're gonna be in more trailing game scripts, they're gonna have to throw more. And then yeah, I didn't hurt him that Devonta Smith, Don Tevian, Wicks are out. Barkley's hurt, Damien Pierce's hurt, Tank Big Seas out, Will Shipley's out. So he's just all these people are out. They have no choice but to spam lemon targets underneath and over the middle. Tanner McKee figured out you can target the middle of the field. Jalen Hurt's never did that. So that's huge for lemons upside. And yeah, just Smith and Wicks are out again this week. Lemons kind of a no-brainer wide receiver three at least. I'm curious to see what happens with this team going forward. What's gonna happen with Smith? Are they gonna shut him down? That could be a possibility. Barkley, I don't know how he's gonna play this week. But also like what if they go to Joe Milton? Like he's more of a downfield inaccurate guy. That would probably help someone like Darius Cooper or Hollywood Brown if they keep him. But I don't know if Milton would be the best at like spamming lemon targets. So we could see just a shifting offense here. Throughout the season, but yeah, Milton could make starts at some point. So things gonna be changing, but as of now, yeah, lemon is absolutely in play. Yeah, as long as McKee is starting lemon in, I mean, with Smith out, if God gets traded and McKee's down, like he's gonna be in my, he's gonna be in a start territory weekly. Yeah, if Joe Milton takes over, I am very much so more trepidaceous on lemon, much rather have someone like Cooper again with a Gino. But if you don't get lemon and I'm not saying bid craze, bid crazy and a PPR, I prefer him in PPR over half PPR. Again, you probably want to running back in your flex focus on the running backs and half PPR if you don't get lemon put in a backup bid on an Antonio Williams Similar position, but he has Jane Daniels under center. We'll see as long as Jane Daniel stays healthy He should be the quarterback, but Williams we talked about him like a poor man's in Monroe St. Brown recently You were discussing that and you like Williams as well. I like Williams is available in over 90% of leagues Pick him up if you don't get a lemon if you don't get a Cooper junior that is a great arbitrage play and I know you agree because we discussed this. Yeah, and nausea. 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I'm gonna go with Brenton Strange who's now available in 54% of these because you know He was really starting to merge as a kind of a low-end time in one but then the Jaguars went on by so it makes sense for people to kind of cut him But I think you know he is gonna be in the low tight-end one range for me going forward now And they they just had their buy so he's a potential Long-term option for you where you don't need to drop him on a buy ever again But I think Parker Washington's the clear alpha. I think everybody can agree on that But Strange has kind of become the more consistent number two target ahead of Jacobi Myers In this offense, so that's kind of given strange a really solid floor for a you know a tight-end not-named trademark brighter Brock Bowers His main weakness so far in his career has been just lack of touchdowns which with tight ends especially earlier in the career is kind of fluky If you remember that was always George Kiddell and trademark rights problem. They just didn't score touchdowns So I think at some point Strange is gonna start to see you know a little bit more touchdowns going forward with you know a solid solid Receiving for so I think that he's one of those guys I Wanted to buy in on you know they could get rid of Brian Thomas Jr Who you know probably doesn't impact someone like strange much at least in terms of You know targets, but that could open up a few more red zone and zone targets for strange He's lost some touchdowns the Thomas over the years. So I think strange is a guy. I just kind of want to be buying in on at the cheap For a potential you know again a potential long-term tight-end one option for me and you know that Liam cone likes to mix it up every week with his usage and everything but strange is kind of the constant in that offense where he's kind of gonna be Right around four to five catches every week with again, you know more upside for touchdowns going forward in my opinion So I like scooping him up cheap while you can not the sexiest you know ad you can make but Sometimes that's what it takes to get off the you know the streaming wagon at tight end is just kind of get one of these Stable guys if you don't like, you know the ebbs and flows of tight end streaming life So I think strange is a solid ad this week Absolutely, I PPR formats should be all over strange especially again if you have the Vork Andrews Jake Ferguson John Johnson John Johnson's drop now just I think people are like what happened to John Johnson I mean losing Calvin Banks that are left tackle It's forcing them to go with I'm not just have your personnel, but like they are Prioritizing keeping shut up right and shut is He's having you know you make some throws here and there but it has been tougher and Joanne Johnson they should trade him honestly I think that would be a great situation for both teams But as of now as long as it's on the Saints one of those guys you're just never gonna predict again It was amazing to start the season though. That was fine. Yeah, we kind of called that right like yeah I know you were saying like he's a late-round pick I was looking at my week one rankings going like oh shit. He's a top 10 tight end like That's the nature of the position where we kind of predicted like a hot start for him But we forgot like Jordan Tyson could be back Who knows if we keep saying that Tyson could play at some point this year But they they have Oscar Delt who's our third-round pick. They probably want to get him more work later in the season. They know a fan's back so Yeah, I agree Joanne Johnson is droppled. You can't be chasing that high from the first three weeks You just got to cut him at this point Totally and strange. I mean that the jaguars just lost their left tackle Antonin Harrison So he could unfortunately be in that same position, but with his usage at recent weeks Yeah, Brian Thomas Jr. getting phased out potentially traded Travis Hunter got some really good usage But they were trailing and kind of forced to use you know one of their best weapons But in normal game scripts where they're you know Leading neutral within a touchdown etc. Yeah, strange seems like I mean he is that second read He has just under a 20% target share and I mean it's Parker Washington one Gap. Yeah, strange Myers in that range, but uh, yeah This they don't throw the most there are like about 30 pass attempts for a game They're in the bottom 10, but you know they'll have some games this week against the Colts isn't that But it's a good matchup for strange and he's definitely in start territory and the touchdowns will come you're playing with the Trevor Lawrence Mm-hmm. You're gonna get your four to five touchdowns and hey, you might get some this week You might get two who knows right? Sometimes they come in bunches with a Russian so I like that a lot My guy's gonna be TG Hawkinson Kyler Kyler likes his tight ends and this is another this is a great match up for Hawkinson It's not really a revenge game considering he's played against Detroit and it ended Detroit before but Hawkinson against his former team the Lions In a likely high volume game Kyler only threw the ball like 24 times last week They played the Colts. They didn't have to have the volume, but this week against the Lions Yes, the Vikings defense is top three But they are eighth against the run. The Lions have to be your Gibbs back there. So they'll put up their points, the Vikings. They might have to put their foot on the gas, especially, and Aaron Jones has heard again, his knee is reactivated. Jordan Mason, good, not great. So the running game is likely to take a hit unless they trade for Jonathan Taylor, who knows? They are definitely the team to watch in that bidding war. But as of now, you could project high volume in this game for Kyler. I think TJ Hawkinson is definitely that number two target now. He has been in targets, he's outtarding Justin Jefferson in recent weeks. So that's unfortunate, especially for Justin Jefferson owners. But if you have Hawk, he's in my top six this week. So I like him a lot. How do you feel about him? I absolutely love that. I'm with you. I'm high on M2. Again, the Vikings are six and out, and now they're road dogs. So like you said, they're going to be forced to throw more. Great matchup. I think the Aaron Jones injury is pretty key for Hawkinson because if Kyler's under duress, he's not going to check down to Mason much. Or like DJ Dallas has been kind of the past catching back at times. He's going to probably throw it to TJ a little bit more. And Revenge game boost, I haven't even applied that yet. But Hawkinson's going to get that. So he's going to jump at least six or seven slots once I apply that. But yeah, he'll be right there, right neck and neck, with Sam Laporta of all people in his contract dispute. So yeah, I think he's definitely in the tight end one discussion this week with upside, for sure. Yeah, 20.9% target share, 29.1% targets per route run, 2.15 yards per route run. I mean, he had that 13 target game a few weeks ago, which definitely was the game that boosted him. But I mean, all this season, really good numbers here for TJ Hawkinson. He had the ACL a few years ago. So he finally is probably healthy now. I mean, he might go top 100 next year. So we're looking at TJ Hawkinson back in that top eight tight end conversation weekly. And just yearly maybe, because he was a foiler. He was a former first player. What year was that ACL tear? Was that 2024? I'm trying to remember. I threw it for 23. And then 24, you played like eight games. And he was really efficient. And then last year was really inefficient, which was weird, 'cause it's usually the next season, a year removed from the injury where players rebound. But Hawkinson had a flip. But now he's good again. And maybe it's Kyler. Maybe it's not having nine. Well, all are like Vikings nine. Apparently, giants in 18 is good. So what's going on with that? But yeah, the Vikings pass offense was a mess last year. Hawkinson probably was impacted by it. I know he looks like someone casted in Game of Thrones. He looks like an actual Viking. But he's still under 30. So he's still kind of like in the tail end of his prime. For a tight end, I think people just think of him as like some older dude, but he still got it. And whenever he's called upon like a few weeks ago, like he has massive upside when he's given the chance. And this again, this is one of those games where the Vikings are going to have to throw a lot more. And that's going to help someone like him. Definitely, yeah. Start Hawkinson, if you got him, if you can, he's available in 53% of leagues. So definitely someone you can pick up off the wire and help you out. Moving on to the defense streamers of the week. Who you got is your top? I'm going to go with the bangles. It's a good week for streaming. I'm going to go with the bangles here. They're available in 75% leagues. They face the Titans. So I got to pick on Cam Ward here. The bangles lead the league in Sacks, which is kind of wild after moving on from such an elite ed rusher in Tray Hendrickson. But they're more of a collection of really good players right now, getting Dexter Lawrence was huge. He leads a team in Sacks. But they just have a handful of guys that can get pressure, whereas it was a little bit easier to slow down Hendrickson because it was just Hendrickson and a bunch of dudes. So I think they're going to provide plenty of Sacks upside this week against Cam Ward. They're 10 point favorites. So they're going to force Cam Ward to drop back a ton. We can get some interceptions. Pick six might be like that's when good things happen for a streaming defense when you can play with the big lead. So I think this is a week. I like the bangles. They're inside my top five to open the week. Yeah, we're just going to pick on bad offenses here. Bangles are 10th in DVO way, 10th against the past, 7th against the right. This isn't just like, oh, they're playing the Titans. They're a good defense. And with their offense, they force teams to have to throw. So this, I mean, they could be a hold for the rest of the year. I haven't checked out their schedule. Let me actually, let me go check that real quick. Just, you know, who knows? Maybe this is the defense that saves you for the rest of the year from streaming because I know streaming's annoying. Everybody hates to play the game. I mean, God, I thought the Rams. I thought the Eagles early in the season would be that defense that I could hold for the rest of the year, but I've ended up streaming. Yeah, Titans, Falcons, Steelers, Commanders, Saints, Browns. And then the year after the Chiefs Panther is not great, but Colts, Ravens, if Lamar's out. I mean, you could hold the bangles. Well, yeah, the championship, yeah, I think I agree. You could probably use them for the next few weeks, for sure. So, you know, definitely Adam, if they're available, week 17. So fantasy championship week, they do face the Ravens. I would hope Lamar's healthy by then. You would hope. You would never know these days. But yeah, if they're playing against Lamar that week, you got a stream in the finals, which is kind of annoying. But I'm a lifelong streamer. So I'll be streaming anyway. But yeah, championship week, everything's on the table. You would probably have to find a new defense that week. But there's going to be someone else that we could pick on by then. Who the hell knows what could be happening week 17. But I agree. I think the next few weeks, you can get away starting them. Yeah, the Bengals are in my top five for the week. But this defense is also their Jacksonville Jaguar is probably dropped because they had their bi-week. They get the Colts at home against the Colts. That's another, like, you know, you pick on the Titans, you pick on Daniel Jones. And especially if Jonathan Taylor is their Quentin Nelson just traded like we discussed. So their interior line is dismantled basically without him. They have an insane schedule coming up after Baltimore next week. Titans Giants. We'll see how JJ McCarthy looks. After a few games, you know, it's been a good game in a quarter thus far. But could definitely be a team you stream against. Yeah, Titans Giants Titans. Bears, not great Steelers, Texans, Dallas, Washington. So it's not great, but like Titans Giants Titans after Colts this week, that's you're holding the Jaguars. You're holding them tight. I know I said, you don't need a second defense. But outside of week nine, and maybe you could even start them in week nine if Lamar is still out or can't run or whatever. But yeah, Jaguars are another, like, they are the must hold defense. If you pick them up, how do you feel about that? I can never get behind holding a defense, but they're great. They're going to play this week. So yeah, like, they're my number five defense. I mean, Daniel Jones has been awful this year. So I love picking on him. But yeah, like it, like, they already serve their buy. So that's, that's a huge win if you want to hold on to it. And yeah, like if you're right, if Lamar isn't ready by next week, which is certainly possible, their schedule is, yeah, their schedule is nice. Because again, they play the Titans two times and three weeks. Then at Chicago, at Chicago, that would be a problem. But that's what week 13's when buy weeks start to thin out a little bit. So it's a little bit easier to have a second defense. If necessary, yeah, definitely the next several weeks. If Lamar is out next week, you could just roll the javers every week. Which again, is is a nice thing to have. You don't have to worry about streaming. But we got to see if Lamar's back this week. Then you probably have to figure something out for week now. Yep, we'll see. And he could be hampered by the ankle, not running as much less effective. So it's definitely possible. You're just streaming the jaguars for the next five weeks. And unless they're putting up all time defense numbers, you could probably drop him a week, 13 at bears. So, but like five weeks of streaming is really nice. Especially mid season, especially if you're in a deeper league. But yeah, they have to be, that has to be a record of road games in a 10 games stretch. I think I've ever seen. Do you see that? Like they're on the road. 80% of the time on all of them see is at at at at at. So yeah, well, they had they had their home games in London. That's that's fucked up. Yeah, but yeah, those aren't even home games in travel. And yeah, they used up half their home games already. And now they're just going to be on the road the rest of the way. That's brutal. Yeah, we're poor Jacksonville fans because this is a damn good team. So let's let's move on to kickers. Let's finish it off. Finish off strong who you got as a top kicker. Yeah, there's a couple of kickers that are available. I think you should add your guy. If you're guys available at him before my guy, but Evan McPherson is inside my top three this week. But this is a great spot for him. Again, at home against the Titans because should be plenty of scoring. So you know, unfortunately a lot of extra points, which does help as floor. But those matter in the kicker slot. Like getting at a couple extra points is nice to have. have and closer matchups. But you know, if they're up big later in the game, you know, Taylor's gonna be more willing to settle for a field goal, you know, if they're up 20 points. So they'll still be able to move the ball against the Titans defense, but they might be more willing to settle. Especially, you know, if they're up big, you know, they got Chase Brown pounding, you know, two yard runs. They're gonna stall at some point. So I think my Pearson's a good bet for a few extra points and maybe a few field goals. So I just love his floor ceiling. He's made every kick this year. He's an excellent kicker. Five from 50 plus. He's got the leg. So just everything you want from a streamer and, you know, potential long-term option. Totally. And in the same vein, you know, weirdly, if a defense is a good stream for the weekend, the offense is good enough to kicker. And if the kicker is not like Chase Mack, you should be streaming the kicker too. You could study. I don't mind doing defense and kicker from the same team. And I'm going to roll with the same. I'm going Cam Little, available in 57% of leagues. Same. If you stream the Jaguars, you could stream Cam Little, both might be on the wire just based on by weeks. Last week, McPherson, obviously, great as well as just as a no-brainer. Cam Little is one of the five best kickers in football. He's a top 10 fantasy kicker. Yeah, McPherson, Little, really, you can't go wrong either or if you have Joe Burrow, I typically don't like doing quarterback kicker because then you're kind of hampering your upside weekly, but it doesn't really matter when you play the Titans or like the Colts. It's just in general, but yeah, you could hold Little, you could hold McPherson, especially with these matchups coming up for both teams. They are going to, you know, they could take their foot off the gas against these matchups and light like Taylor Cohen. 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