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Speaker 3Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. this happens in the public eye, if a video. which the reason he was charged is a video was a component of the charges it was a surveillance video of the garage if that video tmz's its way to to the internet the nfl could be in a position where the commissioner's list becomes immediately relevant list yes um but jason i know you also read through the entirety of what davenport and the charges uh the paperwork there so in your estimation where where are you with the situation because drafts this weekend drafts next weekend and really there my eyes have rolled all the way into the back of my head for sure uh it is an
Speaker 5extremely risky pick you know that what could happen at any time for josh jacobs is a video is leaked uh his hand is pushed the suspension is immediate it could be in the middle of the season that reality exists um drew davenport you got to follow him um on x unfortunately i mean i wish we didn't have to follow the legal expert for but you you just have to yeah and he really is good um you know the november date he was bringing up the fact that that that does not mean that that's when the nfl will will do its thing the november date is you know he'll enter a not guilty plea wave a speedy trial ask for uh you know something in january or february so if the video doesn't come out more off more likely and what the nfl has always done he won't be suspended for anything this year so it's really it's a risky pick um it's one of those things where you could end up getting an insane value on jacobs because he's going to drop in the draft a couple of rounds uh and you could get him for 17 games and he doesn't miss anything at all uh but at any point you could you could have him and you he gets you
Speaker 3to the fantasy playoffs and boom yeah he's he's gone one of the comments i thought was very insightful from drew davenport was the fact that in most respects this was a good this is sort of a good thing for jacobs which you would think no it's not but because the felony thing is not hanging over the circumstance because uh because if they had enough evidence to prove that they would have charged him with it like there are some answered questions here for jacobs in his future in the nfl because of the nature of the charges not that it is a good thing that what transpired obviously it's just clarity goes a long way in terms of like if i had to bet right now honestly my bet would be that jacobs plays i think the full season i i think so too i think he
Speaker 5probably misses four games next year the the the charges were moved from felonies to misdemeanors they were also not classified as db as domestic violence the you know it was property damage and uh obviously i don't know what happened and um i mean but
Speaker 3that's another decision fantasy managers can always make which is yeah hey who do you want
Speaker 4on your team i like jacobs he's off my board exactly i was i was already a you were already i was already fading where but it was like i see a point where if everybody in the league is fading like there's josh jacobs can end up with 10 plus rushing touchdowns again but at this point i'm just like i'm not dealing with it i was already kind of nervous about his efficiency and so it's just like someone now the insurance someone else can in green
Speaker 3bay the insurance back is marshawn oh my marshawn lloyd and then in dynasty leagues please make
Speaker 5sure chris brooks is on a roster he's the real insurance back he's the insurance back for marshawn
Speaker 3lloyd right and that is in fact the starter yeah i mean marshawn if we think marshawn lloyd is
Speaker 5going to be able to play a game and exit healthy i mean probably wrong i would i would say pretty
Speaker 3much everybody around jacobs in adp i would take over him at h and junior scat this won't be though breeze hall no but i mean let's let's move it down the list a little bit even if you go further down i mean like yeah darian price or josh jacobs what are you doing on draft oh that's a
Speaker 5great one um i would oh man or tootin or bucky irving that's the area where i can see anyone
Speaker 3take you yeah i think if you know decisions in you know the the moral side the ethics side notwithstanding that's about where i would probably take jacobs over those guys yeah when i looked at
Speaker 5my ranking i would probably take jacobs over those guys i would probably take jacobs over those guys rankings it was basically the split between i i believe i put him behind price and ahead of like jalen warren so it was like the tear break where he's he's at the end of the goods okay oh let's
Speaker 3move on boston globe uh travion henderson should be good to go for week one i thought we reported on that yesterday actually well but if we didn't then there you go bears repeating uh isaiah pacheco's knee injury not a concern according to dan campbell that's awesome i think we're going to we reported on that yesterday too but now he's dealing with a back injury i think all of this news we reported on yesterday that one like popped in we talked about two two outwell and jarquez hunter as well so did we we did because i had mentioned the fact that the day before i had made the joke that at least two two outwells not there and then they traded for him yeah i will say that
Speaker 5um there were rumors of oh the puka issue and whether this was imminent of some suspension coming in mcveigh specifically said this was not uh anything related to that all right we can also lie we have yes they can
Speaker 3uh we have a fantasy time machine to get to let's take a break and jump in
Speaker 1marty you've got to come back with me where back to the future
Speaker 3well that's a that's a drop i'd like to be three minutes long um that's my favorite one yeah people like the uh is that a new graphic for this year or is that had that no i was last year okay all right papa john um papa josh in the producer seat this morning like the lead dog which is why this little stream deck over here on the right is not working i was just trying to protect kyle and bets from the uh were you actually on the camera were you actually trying to take away my ability to go to the deucer cam no go to the deucer cam hey you know what as a just a person who cares about production i don't like the proportions why is there such a gap it feels like four people it should be equal and they're just like is josh gassy this morning i was gonna say one of us is gassy okay we're all trying to find the guy there it is um good old casket face all right back on the main camera all right the premise of this segment it's a fun one every year we are uh we are attempting to travel forward in time figure out who this year's version is of certain players that broke out last year and did special things so we want to look at the factors that made them valuable and you know these players valuable last year apply those same filters to this year and try to predict who might be this year's you know for example jsn and things like that so we'll start with finding the 2026 version of giovante williams okay this was a player let me just remind you he was drafted as the rb39 last year finished as the rb11 so we're looking for a running back drafted outside the top 24 that is attached to a good offense that could end up as an rb1 not the rb1 but a
Speaker 5you know someone in that top 12 yeah i i think andy you should probably go first in in my opinion
Speaker 3it's you you followed more rules well there was one guy that jumped out it's who i wanted and you already had him okay he does all the things that giovante represented last year which is is david montgomery of the houston texans which is like he's kind of been in the league for a while yeah he's and he's kind of maybe viewed as a little bit boring and the offense is kind of viewed that way but here you are on a a team that should really be a threat to make a deep run in the playoffs so they're they're a good team they're going to win a lot of games we want that in fantasy for running backs houston themselves sought out a goal line back committed to david montgomery he is drafted outside that top range i mean last year the the texans converted a league worth 17 of their attempts inside the five yard line say what you want about the amount of utility that woody marks may have between the 20s or is anybody doubting who's in the game when they're around the goal line i mean david montgomery is that dude they're favored in six of their first seven games or seven uh yeah six of the first seven games before the bye to me montgomery is this year's giovante
Speaker 5williams yeah no i i agree he he fits the bill um entirely my my guy like the doesn't necessarily
Speaker 4look real fast exactly a little clunky yeah
Speaker 3like to earn the respect over a bunch of weeks like you might not believe one week it'll be a
Speaker 5week 12 you're like that is true yeah giovante at the beginning of last year is like oh that's good
Speaker 3he got all the work so he's taking more time to get respect in giovante last year like we got to
Speaker 4the the every year you know at some point we do kind of a like a let's redo the first two rounds and it was like should we i don't remember if giovante went those first two rounds
Speaker 3about him now giovante do you feel like he has the respect now that he deserves
Speaker 5- No, he does not. - No, probably not. Whenever I look at his ADP, i still don't want to draft him and yet i go i should he should be higher yes and we love the cowboys often he's a bell cow back for the the cowboys offense everything uh that made him an rb1 last year so my guy he is not old busted he's not a veteran that you know has has traveled around but he fits everything else in the sense that he's on a good offense it looks like he's going to get all the work and he's drafted outside the top 24 backs and that's jardians jadarian price rookie running back for the seattle seahawks i mean he's a later round drafted guy who seems like he's going to get everything we worried about the passing volume because he had no passing work in his college career early camp reports and videos and comments from coaches are that he is involved in that and you know i know you got the holani bros out there that george holani is going to be involved all three of them but that's i mean there there were are you kidding me are you kidding me no but last year freaking kidding me think about the cowboys last year no no there are holani bros they're really i know but my response to them is are you kidding me the only appropriate response last year there were come on man you know the the mafia bros bill maffa and uh phil maffa and jayden blue and jayden blue's like oh he's the blue bros there's just bros everywhere you know i don't i think it's like 25 touches in holani's career this is not a guy who's going to push their first round pick off the field so good offense drafted late they could absolutely finish as an rb1 and sure he is one of the players that i feel like next year you could look back and go like well like duh like yeah of course why in the world was he not automatically well i'm not even
Speaker 3i mean you you talk about it every year like rookie running backs they are relevant they they are traditionally like multiples in the top 24 like it is something that happens and then you're like oh wait it's the super bowl champs if you go watch hard knocks on the first episode like they have some clips from uh their general manager john schneider talking with somebody in the draft you know look with their draft board up and the draft board is blurred i mean their first conversation is like this is our biggest need so like for the holani bros out there like this is our biggest need like they didn't want him to leave they just are moving on mike you've never said anything about
Speaker 4this guy no i've never said anything other than uh just drafting him yesterday these are all in
Speaker 3the very similar range by the way in drafts yeah which is crazy what's crazy is monty is the lowest of these three right now adp for price is 511 your guy is 601 and minus six per the rules we
Speaker 4were looking for a running back drafted outside the top 24 which jason and i we did we kept to the rules did 25 and 26 we just might have a toenail hanging over where the line is uh with jason's running back 25 am i running back 26 bashal tootin of the jacksonville jaguars uh i you know it's it's not a sure thing that he's going to be the guy but this is a situation that i 100 want to take a chance on the the jaguars last year at least were a very high powered offense liam cohen uh you know returning and the you know the the the new opportunity now with travis hn jr out of the way for a player last year converted five of his seven carries inside the five for a touchdown among oh baby thank you kyle among 55 qualifying running backs fifth in rush success which reminder again rush success rate is are you getting what you need yardage wise on that down so it's not it it's a better way of looking at yards per carry are you getting what you need and he was fifth fifth in percent of yards after contact because he is a truly explosive athlete and he was tied with breeze hall for 11th enforced missed tackle rate this is a team that i i want to i want to bet on who will the the guy be crad is there chris rodriguez and uh that's the goal line variable yes and and laquint allen is the the receiving back variable i think when it comes to it that it will end up being basal tootin being like the the guy there where last year it was the the start the the the initial depth chart was listed hn jr or tank bigsby is the starter and they were so locked into that that they said we're we don't need you anymore tank we're just going to have hn jr be our full-time guy i think that isn't in the range of outcomes for tootin who's not being drafted as a top 24 guy where a top 12 player is in his team so i think that's
Speaker 5the ceiling ironically though last year i think you were more on the tank side i was uh you know that he was better than etn so maybe they'll be like see you later tootin then hey things could happen yeah no right yeah well i still think tank's better all right so we found some candidates oh wow yes jason i i want tank to it's just such a shame i feel like you're talking about my guy last
Speaker 3year yes yeah that's who we're talking just one year early this whole gag you're doing you know what really sucks about it it's not on the show it's funny yeah the problem is is now the comments it's like he's trevo's now my my guy even in a bunch of i think some people are not sure if it's
Speaker 4a truth or a lie true okay the thing but here's the thing for your perspective andy is you have
Speaker 5four shots at my guys yeah it really works if henderson bigsby does something great this year
Speaker 3you're not gonna claim that hey i would gosh i guess that's better than giving jason credit all right finding the 2026 trevor lawrence so what made him great last year looking at uh horse boy uh insane second half run made him in every week start his adp last year was qb 21 ended up as the quarterback for uh we're looking for a quarterback drafted outside the top 12 so that's prerequisite number one either upgraded options in terms of weapons or a change in offensive coordinator liam cohen making the big impact there and maybe he runs enough to be a fantasy difference maker at least fill in some of the gap right you want somebody that can that doesn't have to pay manning right you you can right you can fill in
Speaker 5some of the gap with the legs am i going first again no i'll hop in okay because i i i didn't like mine filling in last get it out of the way but i like mine this this oh you do yeah i i do i i because of the tumult of the off season and i step out for this one do i have to be a part of it at least take your ears out so you don't have to hear it uh kyler murray uh the new quarterback for the minnesota vikings is i think a much better fantasy pick he's currently being drafted as the quarterback 17 he is mobile he rushes well 55 55 percent of all of his 82 career starts have been top 12 quarterback performances now you've got a top 12 quarterback performance and you've got a top 12 quarterback performance change of scenery now you've got uh an upgraded offensive mind i mean when he had cliff kingsbury he was really really good for fantasy things got worse and worse as his career went on as he got injured he is now a year removed from the acl injury he has justin jefferson and a great receiving core he has a really good offensive mind and i don't think he's done he's certainly not like an age where you're like well he can't play anymore so i think he's dumb nice i said d you in oh oh yes done done um so where he's being drafted right now in the 13th round is the quarterback 17 it feels he can easily when i look at the late round quarterbacks who could pop into the you know be a top six option he is one of a few that just easily stand out to me as i i could totally see how that happens yeah i i totally agree
Speaker 4it's difficult though of it's been i don't want to agree it's been a long time since and yes he has you know i i you can say okay the skill position players at minnesota are better than than what what he had in arizona because jefferson is that great he at least i mean he had trey mcbride and he had jerry rice on the team he just didn't throw him the ball and and last year you know in his five healthy games he was averaging 35 rushing yards a game and yet never finished as a top 15 quarterback like he was giving you he gave you a baseline of rushing and the other stuff was just so not there statistically that he wasn't anything more
Speaker 3than a qb i mean he fits all the he fits all the like characteristics of somebody who if he just plays competently he's pretty good for fantasy uh but when you said that like 55 of his games he was about to be a top 15 quarterback this mark i was like and what were 92 of those his first half of his career it's just what is the true kyler murray now obviously they made the decision early like this is going to be the dude yeah and i think jefferson said this is going to be the dude i remember us watching film it's it's
Speaker 5so hard to remember like going week by week last last year when kyler was playing a couple weeks into the season a month five weeks into the season we kept watching this arizona cardinals scheme and seeing them basically try to get the ball to marvin harrison except they just ran him down field so long where he didn't turn around you remember watching this Andy and it was like what are we doing like you're not scheming anyone open you're you're he didn't have someone to pass
Speaker 4to you're more of a uh like a pet sing blaming of Kyler Murray you think that the Kevin O'Connell
Speaker 5fixes it I do I do I really do I honestly I think we have so much history of Arizona Cardinals players who are good who flame out here go to someone else that you know to another team and they're like oh wow they're they're really really good um the Cardinals organization is not a serious
Speaker 4organization agreed I thought you thought it was uh I have never thought that how dare you we think they're unserious all right I'm jumping in unfortunately a Jordan Tyson injury has made me have to at least pull back a bit of my love for for Tyler Shuck but I think that he's the answer to this question if you you know especially if you're like hey second half if Jordan Tyson is back by the second half then oh my gosh I'm going to be very interested in Tyler Shuck who is being drafted as the quarterback 22 despite last year weeks 14 through 18 and like and remember Tyler Shuck didn't start playing until you know like halfway through the year weeks 14 through 18 so we're talking a five game span to end the season completing 20 percent of his passes giving you 27 rushing yards per game that's not an elite level but that's that's perfectly fine give you a nice little boost to the floor and he was averaging 20 fantasy points per game which all that stuff I talked about Kyler Murray he never hit 20 in in that time period of last year for the Arizona Cardinals among 28 rookie quarterbacks over the past five years who qualify so they have had 100 or more pass attempts second in completion rate fourth in passing yards per game sixth in passing yards per game and then the last year for the Arizona Cardinals sixth in yards per attempt and he's got Kellen Moore who kicks the pace up we get extra plays he did all of this stuff without Jordan Tyson he still has Olave he still has Jowanson at the beginning of the season to be uh what I would assume is the number two weapon and then if Jordan Tyson can get back I think that Tyler Shuck becomes that a waiver a quarterback waiver wire pickup that someone picks up week six or so for a streaming option and you're like oh that's pretty good oh that was pretty good and then we just ride it till the end of the season I believe so much in in the prospect of Tyler Shuck becoming a a true franchise quarterback well it would be
Speaker 3fun I mean we need some new icons at the quarterback position for the next 10 years and I'd love to see that team and Kellen Moore and those receivers have that talent uh you know the the schedule looks all right and I I'll be curious they are such a fun offense I really hope
Speaker 5it works out I think it's going to be a fun offense I think it's going to be a fun offense I think it's going to be a because just like you're saying Andy it's like be so good for the NFL to look at the Saints as like
Speaker 3oh I want a piece of that I am going with Baker Mayfield as my pick here for the okay uh 2026 version of Trevor Lawrence who in my opinion Trevor Lawrence might have been he was reversed Trevor he might have I was gonna say Trevor Lawrence might have been the 2025 version of Baker Mayfield that's what's funny about it is Baker was the quarterback three in 2024 he also 378 yards and we were he also had Liam Cohen remember all lost last offseason you're like he's not running for that amount of yards again yeah yeah he did I mean did he ran for more he ran for 382 yards I think you can look at Baker and understand that this guy is going to take off he is shiftier than he looks and finds his way down the field I mean he literally ran for more yards per attempt because he kind of looks like a potato I know a slippery potato though yeah I but look he he he has that I'm a potato Baker was the quarterback for last year through the first six weeks oh so he was right back on he was the MVP candidate then you get Evans injury a book injury Baker injury line injuries and it fell apart and you know you've got Baker playing I mean who wears their emotions and their grudges on their shoulder more than Baker Mayfield yeah well he's great he's presently disrespected and undervalued and not under contract
Speaker 5for next season and week one matchup at Cincinnati 51 and a half over under I think these guys are
Speaker 3gonna I mean maybe he just takes it back you know if he was if Lawrence was the 2024 Baker then Baker might be the 2026 Lawrence that is my pick for the fantasy time machine so I like it we will take one more break here and then we're gonna try to find the 2026 version of Jerry Rice
Speaker 4all right we're back and uh the 2026 Jerry Rice was uh Devante Adams according to to me to your post
Speaker 3I might after acquiring Devante Adams in one of our leagues pointed out the statistical numbers for a 33 year old Jerry Rice yeah you still feeling uh good about that I am feeling good about Adams not those numbers but I'm feeling good about Adams because I just if he's healthy I don't know how he doesn't score a bunch that's the whether he's great elsewhere but uh no the 2026 Jerry Rice Mike I don't know if you remember it's this guy named Michael Wilson I do remember of the Arizona Cardinals so you know you're looking at a non-rookie wide receiver that was buried on a depth chart for years could break out in 2026 you can't no last you can't do this to my heart I don't even know who Jason picked I'll get mine out of the way okay don't don't because I feel like mine fits the mold for for yours is the best I'm not even gonna put in your name I'm not even gonna put in your name I'm not even gonna put in your name I'm not going to scroll down because I don't want to know who Jason's is yeah this is non-rookie wide receiver buried in the depth chart could break out if given opportunity but has never really done it last year Michael Wilson was undrafted finishes the wide receiver 11 the
Speaker 5name I'm gonna bring up you like mine Jason I do I literally went in the doc to put in this name
Speaker 3so Monty and Monty and Jalen yeah that's good it's Jalen Coker yeah wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers basically undrafted if not if he's drafted it's 13th 14th round did you know that he had four top 24 finishes in his final seven games Jalen Coker he's a very very good player and he's back and he's healthy and he was rewarded with a three-year contract extension a lot of you are like who is that because our producer may have said his name wrong at one point in time but Jalen Coker is just he's just one of those guys you watch play and change the vowel sound yeah vowels I've learned vowels yeah they're pretty important vowels are effective when it comes to what you're doing and you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right you're doing it right so that's the impact they have on speech I think that Jalen Coker is going to be in every down player all year long he's always shown the talent he's dealt with injuries he's completely undrafted and if the I know Bryce Young is there but look nobody expected what happened last year with Michael Wilson that's the point right you don't expect the math to math of course but I think Jalen Coker has a chance to be that super this is what you're talking about at the top about what kind of sleepers you have to find them yes you need to find a guy who you know 100 like almost 100 probability is that he fails right but but I think Coker is a really talented player and I think the team bought in and they realize what he represents to the depth chart and we'll see what happens with McMillan moving around in the slot but like Coker is competitive like at the point of attack at the catch like he's a big dude I I love him yeah if if by the way 12 targets 9 for 1 34 and 1 in the playoff game they almost won against the the Rams if Bryce were to
Speaker 5step up and continue progressing through his young career I believe Coker would be very good
Speaker 4yeah when you're looking at late round shots like it helps when you you feel like the player's good
Speaker 5yes that's I think that's the most important part because there's late round guys you're like that guy stinks that's a huge part of my argument so you're up Mike I don't know if you think your
Speaker 4guy is good or stinks but I'm gonna go with hey look at him he's a good guy he's a good guy like another guy I I drafted at the end the very very end of last uh yesterday's mock draft Dontavian Wicks who is going even later than Jalen Coker in drafts uh I see an ADP of a wide receiver 73 Wicks has had some issues you know catching the ball yeah when he was over there on the Green Bay Packers he was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles where it looks like he is locked in as a starter he has locked down the number two spot opposite Devontae Smith Saquon Barkley Wicks is a steal I don't know how we got him and then Nick Sirianni the way they are off the line of scrimmage the way they are at the top of the route the way they are are with the ball with the hands it reminds me of whole Keenan Allen this is and they're all talking about Dontavian Wicks who when he's been on the field yes the catching has been a little bit of a bugaboo which is not great for a wide receiver but the targets have been there because the catching has been a little bit of a bugaboo the guy just gets open targets per route run uh we've had plenty of hyped waiver wire weeks where
Speaker 3Wicks was the pickup didn't deliver as much as we hoped but there was a reason for it yeah because
Speaker 4the talent because targets per route one or route run 23 percent in 23 30 percent in 24 21 percent in 2025 for context over the last three years he's been targeted on a per route basis more frequently than Zay Flowers Christian Watson and George Pickens like this guy has gotten the targets he was not ready for for his opportunity I think what what if he is what if he's ready for the opportunity now with A.J. Brown out of town and being the true number two where Makai Lemon is that's the sexy player that's the first round
Speaker 3pick he slithers around Stowers and Lemon like we talk about hype trains and Stowers is if a hype train could go backwards the Lemon Stowers combination of replacements for A.J. Brown like it's just derailment like yes is what they've done this offseason is to make me like Dontabian Wicks and Dallas Goddard that's what those guys have done yeah which I there's still hope for Lemon
Speaker 4for sure but when you miss so much of camp it's like those are really really important reps for a player that's never played in the NFL I think Lemon it will take more time and in that period of time Wicks could emerge and be a true threat for this team so I like him at the end of your
Speaker 5draft all right you your turn I saw it oh you did I look you you you ruined loser I know come on um if we would have summit contents if we would have said last year Michael Wilson will have a breakout it would have been like what are you talking about this guy has done fair good start to this one he's done nothing you would have been like he's crazy for saying that I went team by team and looked at every single depth charts try to figure out I love this but I hate it to try to figure out who could you know don't give me hope emerge as a team's wide receiver one that is unexpected that is not and the truth is most teams have such a stud at wide receiver or at least as such a solidified guy that you know the Cardinals last year we had hope oh Marvin Harrison is maybe he will be it Mike Mike if he can get through this without ever saying the name
Speaker 3he's he's well he's he's got to set it up he's gonna I gotta set this up I know but maybe never
Speaker 5say it and just a little closer so I went I went team by team to try to see which situation could have someone surprising emerge and the team that stood out to me was the Raiders makes total sense I mean you got your Trey McBride and Brock Bowers and you were like Jalen Naylor for sure I was I put Jalen Naylor in oh did you really I really did I was like the team makes sense and then I was like he's dude he's just too good Jalen Naylor's just not good enough he's just we he we have seen enough of him to know he's not that dude Trey Tucker then I was like let me look at him I was like this he's you know he's got his flashes but he's a bitty baby boy he's not going to actually emerge but you know who I think is a good wide receiver yeah Jack Bash baby what did he say what did he say Jack Bash you would I mean I mean it's good to hear somebody giggling in the back yeah I recognize this is insane brother there's insane and then there's what you're doing right now you didn't have to do I'm doing it I really do think that if the opportunity is given to Jack Bash no but that's what Michael Wilson needed no I know I know I know I know Michael Wilson had but it won't be didn't have the opportunity when when Marvin Harrison got injured he was forced into that opportunity if Jack Bash is given the opportunity and plays snaps I mean he's he's a great he's basically solidified his role
Speaker 3I can't stop laughing this would be amazing if we ended the show on a slow fade like down to no volume right now Jason just keeps talking about Jack Bash till we fade out he's
Speaker 5a much better fit in Kubiak's system beat reporters saying he has won the starting slot role Jason was doing work from the slot last year and I okay the truth is I let's buy in Mike I think Bash is a good player I mean I was never out Mike and I love Jack Bash as a collegiate player but hey you know we'll we'll see if he can get on the field it's obviously a very deep um you don't like Malik Benson over there no I I can see it I can I think Jack Bash could come out of nowhere I mean what a great chance to victory lap this someday
Speaker 4yeah on the the show on the exact show this is Jason where we where was that this is CNN joke no oh okay um where the exact show where we were kind of uh poking fun at the
Speaker 3George Helani bros yes we got the best bro the best well I mean you and Kyle we in fact are
Speaker 4no I'm Betts is in there too but yeah he is like we are the entirety we are the best bros it's just the handful of decision you've made it's it's just us in this building we will keep believing until he is out of the league um okay give him the opportunity which is probably next
Speaker 3year more okay I'm gonna put you I'm gonna put you on on the spot for a real tough question Mike oh Gersh okay we were talking about we did a show 10 years ago right so 10 years from now we look back from from today and we say to ourselves who has more career receptions been
Speaker 4Senator Jack Bash oh to this point no from here on out oh I don't mean give me the numbers of what's actually happened it's a prediction I the yeah he's like uh let me look well no no I was I
Speaker 3wasn't gonna look but into their careers who will finish with more receptions which player has more
Speaker 5total receptions easy peasy it's Bash of course it's Bash it's Jack Bash oh I thought you were
Speaker 4gonna give me the 10-year question I was like oh that's easy uh Drake May oh the current uh
Speaker 3head-to-head numbers I have them uh that's what I don't even know Jack Bash with 20 total career that's more than Ben and Ben Sinnott with 16 total receptions you're not counting that didn't he have a catch I think there's a term limit Senator I don't think it's gonna happen uh we have a live show tonight so bold predictions episode tomorrow ballers live.com upcoming shows get ready for Ben Sinnott projections final preseason takeaways roster cut news players were afraid to be wrong about a final mock draft next week an MVP that's right a fantasy MVP episode with tons of special guests sharing their fantasy football MVPs or that's coming next week as well so much going on right now make sure you're prepped up for your draft with the ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit.com has mock draft tools this year and we'd love to see you in the megaloball at megaloball.com otherwise we're gonna we're gonna say goodbye and save the voices because we've got a live show to do tonight it is time for the megalo show this evening and uh we'll
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