Fantasy Football Week 3 Lineup Advice: Start/Sit Debates, Breakout Picks & TD Calls (Ep. 2217)

This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human. I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcasts. The True Crime Comedy Podcasts, all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it. Each week I bring on an amazing guest. Ooh, I scammed them. What? I could talk to you for an hour. You're a generational yapper, like me. That's why I had to make yapping a job. And now you can catch full episodes of my show on YouTube. Start listening to Scam Goddess on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Let's get up, got it. Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros football podcast. I'm Ryan Warmley joined by Jake Cele from the Athletic and by Pat Fitzmorris. And we are talking week three starts and sits today just a reminder that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasyproz.com/rankings. We're going through our starts, our sits. Our starter is sitting some of these waiver ads that were popular this week, and then also our touchdown calls at the end of the show. As always, before we jump in, Jake, how are you doing here? I'm doing great. I know I got the black with the navy blue, but I am in full celebration mode this week for the return of Darkwing Duck. So that's all I can think about. This is what that day was top five announcements in my life. I saw you tweeting about it. I've never seen Darkwing Duck, but I've saw you tweeting about it. And I knew we would get a t-shirt from you today. So I was totally expecting this. I also expected that response as well. Fits, are you a Darkwing Duck fan? I can't say I am. Yeah, I just haven't been doing a lot of animated television lately. I mean, lately, it was the 90s. And by lately, I mean the last 30 years. Relative to the span of Fits' life, 90s is lately, actually. All right, well, I can't really contribute to a Darkwing Duck conversation. I just saw you tweeting about it. So I'm very happy for you, my friend, Jake. But yeah, done. I'll be happy if I can find a way to voice something on the show. That's bucket list. Just give me one line on any of these shows. That's all I'm asking. We'll start that campaign for you here. See if anybody in our audience happens to know the right person can get you out of there. Let's go ahead and jump into the show. We're going to start, as we always do, with the most popular waiver ads of the week. And are those guys that you are picking up to sash for the long term and just take a chance on? Or are they guys that you want to be actually starting here right off the bat? I just want to note that the most popular waiver wire, at least in terms of just following a Twitter and seeing who we were getting the most questions about, and the people were talking about the most in our audience, was Joe and a Coleman. I'm not including him because since becoming a very popular waiver ad, he then wasn't practicing on Wednesday. So while the injury uncertainty, also, it seems like, you know, J.K. Dobbins might actually be more okay than we thought. I didn't think it made sense to include him. I still think he's obviously very smart, long-term stash, just in case, but I don't want to include him in this segment. So I just want to note that because he is such a popular name, people might be surprised why he didn't come up. Let's jump into the names that I did include here on the sheet. The first one I have is actually a tight end. Aronde Gadsden, obviously a Charlie Collar and David and Joku get hurt in the week two game for the chargers. The offense hasn't been good, but there is now an opportunity here in an offense that we thought was going to be good. He obviously flashed at times last season. So Gadsden became a very popular pickup at tight end. I know I picked him up in one very deep league. Fitz, I'll start with you. Is he somebody that you're interested in starting right away at tight end? I am less interested in starting him than maybe just having him as a break glass in case of emergency starter. Like I've got him ranked tight end 16 this week. I just, it's hard to feel good about anything related to the chargers offense right now. And last week we saw Gadsden break up a pass intended for teammate Brendan Thompson. But we did get a brief spurt of tight end one status from Gadsden last year over a four week stretch. There is potential here. And with no Charlie Collar, David and Joku, maybe we do see the sort of snap shares and target shares. We were hoping for last year, after the breakouts, maybe things would be better for 2026 and then all of a sudden the chargers add all these other tight ends and things started to look bleak. We'll see. I just wish we felt better about the chargers offense because it's been awful so far. What do you think of the matchup? I mean, we know what the bills have historically been against tight ends. It's a different obviously defensive system and play collar this year for the first time in a while. Do you look at this as a poor matchup for him going up against the bills defense or are you matchup agnostic? Given that it's so early in Jim Leonard's tenure? Matchup agnostic because we don't know enough about Leonard's schemes with the bills. I know a lot about Leonard's schemes from the Wisconsin days in college, but yeah, the one thing we like about the matchup is that the bills offense might force the chargers to stomp the accelerator to keep up. Jake Aronigatson is tied in 15 in consensus rankings right now for the week. The names around him guys like Mark Andrews, Harold Fanon, Jake Ferguson. Isaiah likely is a couple spots ahead. Colston Lovelin who hasn't done much this season. Kyle Pitt's Terrence Ferguson. That's kind of the range that he's in. What do you think about starting him this week? - Yeah, I have in front of all of them. I have Gaston at 11, one spot in front of likely because I don't think the situation is likely. I mean, the targets were there, but James wants to look like he's spent all his time learning the other football. They look terrible. Let's be honest. So I think they're in the same bucket. I have in the same tier. That's really what it comes down to is that I would go Gaston over likely. If you want to go likely in full PBR, I have no problem with it. I think he's in front of Johnston because Vellay is Vellay. I think Mark Andrews is touched on our bus. He had all the opportunity in the world to do something more last week and we still just mark Andrews at this point in this career. So it just comes down to, I'm shooting for the upside. And I really look at the fact that if we would have known this preseason, which was the biggest problem, it's like, oh, we're excited for Gaston. Well, then they signed in David and Joku and they bring in Charlotte Kohler and free agency and talk up using two tight ends. And we're like, well, that was fun for the Gaston ride for about two weeks, but now we're back to it. Gaston is arguably the number two because Quentin Johnson looks awful. Like Quentin Johnson talked about somebody that's been given every opportunity in the world multiple times over and should really just be what he should be as a Y receiver three gadget big play guy. Like that he's just, we hope for more and we've never gotten it. So I'm looking at it as like the opportunity here is that Gaston going against the Bill's defense is the potential to be the number two. Coming from somebody who said this offense looks miserable. I keep making the Eli Manning conversation, cut comparisons, things probably might not, well, not probably, they might not get better for a few more weeks, but I'm taking the upside. If you want to go likely, if you want to go the floor of Johnson, I have no problem with it, but I would take the chance because I'm the tight end. I'm sure you're for upside at tight end. - One more name I'll throw you away, Jake. Terrence Ferguson, if Puka sits again, him or one spot in front of him. - If, it one spot. - Nicole, but you that's, we might not have that word. That's Sunday night. - Yeah, we might not have that. - But if we do, I mean, it sounds damning as this morning, we would like Ferguson was, he said, he was the number two with Adams. So you talk about the number two with the Rams, versus the number two with the Chargers. I'll take the number two with the Rams. - I'm not even gonna ask Fitz. I know it's answered to that question. It's Ferguson. - Right, I mean, right now I've got Ferguson ranked behind Gadsden just because Ferguson popped up with like an ankle injury on the injury report, but it seems like he's gonna play, but that's a little bit concerned. - Yeah, another player I want to talk about here in this segment, 80 Mitchell. Jake, I'll start with you on this one. Is Mitchell somebody, you know, he's targeted Garrett Wilson, obviously a really tantalizing match up here. You see somebody that you're starting off waivers this week, or just wanted to pick up to sit on. - Starting week one, starting week two, what do you think my answer is for week three? Probably starting at an I Mitchell, even especially against the lines. Like it's at an I Mitchell, this is the argument I made in the preseason going into week one and made it after week two, made it after week, or after week one and now after week two. Is he's the number two with Juno Smith playing capable football, Juno Smith. And for all the hate that that team got last year and all that like, oh, let's give it past because of Kelly. And all that's, and everybody's just like, well, Juno is part of the problem, was it? Like Juno Smith is back to playing competent football. That's all we needed, competent. He doesn't have to be great. He just has to be a mid-level quarterback, which is what he is, and he can move the offense. 80 Mitchell, by the way, one more target. Think Garrett Wilson. And I'm not saying like, oh my gosh, he's the number one on this team, but the volume is there. I'm chasing volume, that's the clear number two and a fun old passing game with those two in Breast Hall of the Backfield. And Juno Smith playing capable football and going against the Lions. And I Mitchell should have been what he was for me last week, a Y3 or three. He is definitively a Y3 or three. I'm not gonna go top 25 on him at this point because there's still, I'll give you a easy comparison for everybody out there that's excited for, he's Josh Downs on the Jets. There you go. - He is, right smack dab in the middle of the consensus rankings of Y3 or three. He's Y3 or 30 this week. - Oh, and the reason I bring that up is because he has zero end zone target so far. That's why we're on the Josh Downs comparison. - Wando Robison is Josh Downs. Well, Wando Robison Giants is Josh Downs. Josh Downs is Adam and I Mitchell. They're all, that's who you should be picturing in your mind. - Adam and I Mitchell fits Y3 or 30, like I said, too high, too low, just right. Or is he somebody you're starting? - Did just right. I've got him 31 and yes, I would start him. Like he was in a neutral matchup, he would be wide receiver three or flex worthy. This is not a neutral matchup. The Lions have been awful. They're secondary as a mess. They've given up 658 passing, our six touchdown passes. Adam and Mitchell right now is leading all NFL receivers in Ariard's share right now. He is accounted for 59.4% of the Jets Ariards. He's wide receiver 35 and half point PPR scoring, wide receiver 25. five in expected half point PPR scoring according to the fantasy points data suite. So yeah, I mean, things have been really good for AD Mitchell and obviously like sometimes Mitchell doesn't convert all of these targets. The hands can be questionable at times, but in fairness, like there was a 50 yard throw to him last week against the Packers where he got interfered with that wiped out the potential for a reception, but man, the usage has been glorious so far. Let me ask one. Can I ask a toss up because he's not on the show sheet? Would you go downs or would you go a Mitchell this week because downs has the Texas? I have Mitchell ranked higher, a little bit higher by about four spots like it. They're actually back to back in the fantasy pros expert ranking, not the expert consensus with the entire industry, but adjust the fantasy pros guys, this to our back to back. So it's a good question having them there. One more receiver I want to talk about in this section, Denzel Boston, obviously a very popular pick up this week has it's very strong to start his rookie season, you know, Jake, I did a show with Fitz earlier this week and he was saying that Boston would be, you know, his driver's season one in if he was redoing his rookie rankings right now, is that something that you are also willing to say, like you've seen enough, he should be ahead of, you know, guys like Tate and lemon or are you maybe a little bit less aggressive about what you seen early from Boston? He's why to see for 38, by the way, in consensus, I mean for a read draft, sure, you make that argument. I have no problem with it. I mean, Chris Bell still not 100% make high a lemon is not who's going to be a mid season option as we got deeper into the preseason wasn't practicing, wasn't playing like that's a big factor for any rookie. And so that was going to be a long term Tyson got injured. And of course, Carl Tays getting ruined by the Titans. So yeah, no problem with that argument for this week and like kind of things here. I would say why receiver three is a good range because for anybody that didn't see it, let's be honest, the buckner should have tackled them on that touchdown like they just like freaking bounced off each other like the rolling balls like that was stupid. So that being said, the big play opportunities are there because Watson's looking for him deep easily. That's the one thing. I would actually be concerned if Sanders is that quarterback for specifically Boston. But yeah, he's a wide receiver three. It's just understand that like this could be the week where it doesn't work out. Fitz, obviously, I just mentioned that you have been a really big fan of Boston so far for this week in particular, where are you ranking him? He is outside the top 36 in ECR. Like I said, wide receiver 38. So just outside that wide receiver three range. Wide receiver 29. Wow. And yeah, it's just continuing the drumbeat of positive reporting on Denzel Boston from training camp where all the beat writers for the Brown seemed unanimous that like this guy was a find. You could tell that they knew right away this guy was going to be special and so far he's looked pretty special. Now, there's always the possibility that to show in Watson could sort of short, short circuit things for Boston, but surprisingly, Watson has been pretty serviceable so far. He's eighth in passer rating right now and 16th in EPA, per drop back. So he has at least been average. Not so great in week one, pretty good in week two against the Buccaneers. They come home first home game in the year for the Browns against the Panthers. The only thing to watch for like you never know what the weather is going to be like in Cleveland stadium with the wind blowing off Lake Erie. If it's like a gusty windy day, I'll have to move Boston and all other components of the Browns and Panthers passing games down in my rankings. But man, so far, I think he is a start. I'm looking right now at fantasyproze.com on the player cards. You can see where every expert is ranking somebody and so which experts are the highest on a given player or lowest over 100 names, you know, experts are in these rankings and only six of them have Boston higher than you do fit. So you are very near the top of this and two of those who have him higher are Scott Bogman, our colleague and Brandon Funston, Jake's colleague. So those are just a few of the names that have him higher. Let's go to the Plant Your Flag section. Jake, we usually start with Fitzgera, I want to start with you. You could not have crushed it more with Devote Adams. One of the all-time best Plant Your Flag segments we've ever had on this show. And he obviously was utterly dominant in that game against the Gi. It's almost two order yards. Multiple touchdowns, just a ridiculous prime Devote Adams game. So who are you going to again? Can you possibly live up to last week's Plant Your Flag player? Let's talk, Pete Alonzo, I'm moving to baseball, like Paul and Michael Jordan, I'm out. I'm going on top. I don't want to do this again. Yeah, the touchdown call is going to be, it won't be the same player again this week also because they don't have for any backers. My plant, my flag and it sounds like he's okay. Obviously, this changes things if we get worse news after this show on Friday, whatever it was, but I go back to the fact that McDonald slapped him on the chest for a chest slash shoulder injury and they were laughing during the game in the second half. So I am going to Gdory and Price against the commanders going against the Seahawks. So I think that this is a recipe for grind out the clock at a ton on the ground. I do think JSM will be fine as we saw Drew Lock understands the assignment, but at the same time, this feels like unless I will say like, of course, if they're grind out the clock and Gdory and Price doesn't practice in full on Friday and he's not 100% for this game, then like you wouldn't want to risk it, but this is assuming that price is okay. The price is out. I would pivot straight to my flag plant would be a manual Wilson because I just think the Seahawks are going to destroy the commanders, even though I don't think the passing game is that much different. Actually, the numbers hold up and show that the passing game is not that much different between Mario and a slash Daniels. I still think the Seahawks are going to roll the commanders this week and that's why I would take their lead running back. What do you think about this one, Fitz? Yeah, I'm not going to doubt Jake on anything match up related anymore because you know when Jake was pitching Devonte Adams, this is flag plant last week and talking about how bad he thought the giants DBs were, I was like, really are they that bad? Yeah, they were that bad on Monday night. So I'm not, I'm not questioning Jake anymore. I'm all in a generic price of Jake is price, by the way, is RB 31, there's the elements of these. I'm a 21 assuming he's fine. Yeah, assuming he's healthy that that will go up with his playing. Yeah, I'm with you on this game, by the way, to like Seattle, even fly east on the road playing early. They're like only minus seven, man, this, this defense will travel anywhere. I, I, I think they're really, man, what this is going to be the most popular survivor for anybody that somehow made it through week one and two and watched this go sideways. This would just, this would be 2026 in a nutshell, if this goes sideways. You, you think it'll be more popular than chiefs at dolphins? It's a bigger spread. Is it? It is. It is a bigger spread. No, I'm saying like, is it more popular? Like I'm trying to think, because I think the, why I said is because I think a lot of people took the chiefs. And I think that's why I've already used him. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. I think a lot of people in the last week, I don't have to worry about it because I took the bucks last week. So I'm already out. Sam. Yeah. I was like, I, I made through the chargers and week one. I was like, all you suckers, I survived. And then it happened to me. I love the, I love the 15% using the chargers and week two that were like, oh, yeah, come join the party. Like this is fun. We knew that sad music from prices, right, that, you know, when you lose that, you know, thank you, Fitz. That was really well done. I also didn't know that one. Fitz, who is your player flag player? Yeah. This is a weird one. It's, it's Pat Fryermouth because who would not want a piece of the Steelers passing game right now? No, actually, this one is entirely matchup based. The Bengals gave up the most catches receiving yardage and touchdowns to tight ends last season. They're still being, they've still got Al Golden as their defensive coordinator and they've just got fire bombed by Dalton Schultz last week of the Texans. And Fryermouth had a 100 yard, I believe, two touchdown game against the Bengals last season. Fryermouth is my pick to click this week. Uh, Jake, does that, when you, when you saw Pat Fryermouth was the choice here, was a reaction like gross? What is Fitz thinking? Was it, oh, yeah, I see where he's going to, you know, be coming from here, right out and fry him with tight and 17 in ECR. Uh, I'm actually right around consensus. So I'm okay with it. And mostly because it's the Bengals matchup and they have an era Rogers problem. It's not a microcarthy problem. So I have no problem with that. And the really thing is I would consider him over pits at this point. Pits doesn't throw a panics like, oh, so, uh, Pits, yeah, of course, Pits doesn't throw a panics. Yeah. Maybe that would help. Pits is lower in ECR than fryermouth fryermouth's tight and 17, Pits is not a tight and 19 for tonight's game. So, uh, yeah, he, he is buried down there. Uh, I'm sorry, Fitz, did you say where is fryermouth ranked for you? I'm excited. 10 and 10. 10. Oh, yeah. So it's a very up there. Flag plant. He has plant. He gets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a listen. He was uncertain about yours last week. Maybe you'll be uncertain about his this weekend. I know. We're afraid. You sabotaged my mind. Green. I'm looking right now. This is the highest on front. You were tied with Brad Evans. There you go. You're the only two that have that 10. So we'll see how that one goes. I wouldn't feel great about investing in the Steelers offense, but Fitz laid out a good case there. Before we get to our next segment, I need to tell you about this new prediction market called polymarket. It's a stock exchange for sports. buying and selling on your terms when your team goes down to 20% you can buy in and sell it off at 40% when they come back to double your money. They are so confident you'll never go back to the other guys. They're giving you a free $50 on your first trade when you deposit just $10. So download the polymarket app today and use FPPOD when you sign up. That's FPPOD to get $50 free after you trade just $10. All right, guys, let's get to our start. Let's hit player debates here, starting with the running backs as usual, fits Cam Skataboo versus Chuba Hubbard. Who do you like better in their matchups this week? Obviously Skataboo as, you know, his backup quarterback is going to be in there now. Hubbard now gets this runway more solidified with Jonathan Brooks going on IR. Skataboo is RB 20 in ECR and Hubbard was actually lower than him when I put the sheet together. He is now up at RB 16. So he is sort of in making this look a little not as close as it did when I put the sheet together. What do you think about this one? Hubbard or Skataboo? I was initially higher on Skataboo. I've swung around and now I would go with Hubbard here and I'm a little lower than consensus on both. I just, with Hubbard, I ultimately just think he's kind of a guy. But the opportunity is spectacular for him with the backfield to himself now with Jonathan Brooks out, AJ Dillon is the only backup. But yeah, with Skataboo, I just, I don't know if this coaching regime likes Skataboo as much as the previous regime. He is not being really used in the past in game at all. It's not getting more a course duty. And if James Winston is as terrible this week as he was on Monday night, things are going to be catastrophic for the Giants offense. Now I wouldn't be surprised if James rebounded with a full week of practice reps and preparation and wound up being the James we know and love. We throw us for 320 yards with three touchdowns and three interceptions in week three. But man, if he's not, there is no, like the floor for Skataboo is pretty bad, like three or four fantasy points. Jake, for you, I'm curious both had to head who do you like better, but you know, fit saying that he's lower the consensus of both guys. Do you also feel like they're both maybe too high in the rankings? No, I have a 10 spot gap from Hubbard to Skataboo. I don't even think that one is close. And that was before the movement. I'm still apparently higher on Hubbard than consensus because I'm at 14. I have Skataboo at 24. And I whispered thank you and they're like, I missed plenty. We all miss plenty. I have leveling as my number two tight end. Everybody's coming for me for that for some reason. But the one thing I didn't miss is I hammered and hammered and hammered and hammered that Harball Plus Roman means split backfield. And then they brought in Naja Harris. And it's going to be worse than you even thought it was going to be when they brought in Naja Harris because now it's a fourth person. And this is just what they do. The Mark Ingram year was 200 carries. And he finished as an RB one because of the touchdowns, 12 rushing touchdowns. I think it was. Skataboo, you saw in the second half, he got annoyed when he got called off the field. You saw his face. He was not happy. He got called off the field. So if they had the lead, does that just mean it's going to be more single tearing Harris, potentially getting those short yards or touches. If it's more passing, does Tracy get more than one play like whatever it might be because it fits brought up the other part of it is that they're not even using that much in the passing game. So at this offense is a mess. The offensive line went from being great last year to a great week one to just getting exposed by the Rams. And maybe that part of the problem was switching from Dart to Winston, whatever it might be. So I don't think it's the end of the world, but I don't see how Skataboo is in the same conversation as Hubbard, who again, fits is not wrong. Hubbard is a mid level. He's above replacement level running back. But we're talking about somebody who's getting all of the touches and offense that is clicking this year under Dave Canales and what we hoped it could be. And the Cleveland Browns defense is not scary as it was. So I think he's a top 15 running back. I have Hubbard ahead of Kyron Williams in a split against Denver. Okay, Kyron is one spot ahead of Hubbard in ECR right now. They're RB 15 and 16. Let's set aside Skataboo for a second just because I think we are all our largely in agreement in terms of what we think about him for this week with Hubbard fits where exactly AC ranks for you. How much lower are you on Hubbard than than Jake is up at RB 14. I have got him RB 19. Okay, so just a couple of spots behind ECR. The matchup I think is interesting because like the offenses look so good this year, but has come against the Bears defense and a Falcons team that Bryce Young usually shreds historically. And then Cleveland, like I don't think they're as good, but Ericsson, I've done a few shows within this week and he keeps, you know, really hammering the point that historically the Browns are better at home on defense. And so now they get to be playing this game in Cleveland as opposed on the road. So maybe there's a bounce back defensively. I don't know how much stock I put into that. I mean, still it's not Jim Schwartz. There's no Miles Garrett. Like it's a different looking defense than it has been in those years when that has been the case. But I think trying to sort of pinpoint how I feel about Hubbard is interesting. He's ahead of guys like Deandre Swift, Bucky Irving, you know, David Montgomery said one big game, one poor game. These are some of the names that he's around in ECR. Jake, you seem to be not worried about that angle to the matchup here in terms of the Cleveland defense, right? Now, and the home road splits. I mean, we did that for years with quarterbacks. And I mean, we did that for years with Jared golf. I mean, we remember Ben LaRothlisberger. And even Mike Talham was like, that's a stupid thing. I don't understand it. Maybe he's just more comfortable living at home or whatever, right? They and then the splits went out the window after a few years. There's splits went out the window a few years with Jared golf. And you brought up reasons why I'm not coming for Andrew on this, but like you just brought up why it might not even mean anything that they're better at home. So the toughest one I had was Hubbard versus Irving because like I've been mostly with fits this entire preseason with the Irving situation till I got concerned that he wasn't 100% healthy and we weren't getting clarity on that in the preseason. But once he was back to like, hey, he's fine. I was locked step with fits again. So that's the toughest column having because it is Bucky Irving. It is the Florida's defense. The Florida's difference at some point in the middle of the season goes haywire. Go back every single year. Florida's defense dominates through weeks eight to 10. And then at some point, it just stops working. I don't know why, but we're only in week three, which is why I have a little bit of hesitancy, hesitancy. And it's not so much for Irving. It's just that Baker Mayfield is look terrible through the first two weeks. And that could affect Irving. But I'm bringing that up to say that that was my toughest call is Hubbard versus Irving. But that's where that's what I think of Hubbard with this volume. Like we talked about on the waiver show. Fitch is the one that said it. AJ Dylan, whatever. Like you really think AJ Dylan's getting more than like three touches from Hubbard in this week. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman, Angela Jaretana, Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonnell, and we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast. The improvised character comedy podcast, we're each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of wellness influencers. What I try to do is foe journal. I don't know, have you guys heard of faux journaling? Yeah, it's reading. 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Oh, it's Bucky. Yeah, we know that. We knew that. I just had to ask. Well, I make sure. But that is what I expected. All right. Any other running back while I'd hear Quinshaw and Judkins speaking to the Browns versus Travegan Henderson, former backfield teammates at Ohio States, former rookies in the same class. So Judkins or Henderson, Jake, I'll start with you on this one. Who do you like better this week? I have Henderson a few spots in front of Judkins. It really comes down to, like we love, like if you said the volume of RB touches and you just told out the names and we're like, looking down the list and be like, whoo, that guy's got a lot of touches for his team. They're like, oh, it's Quinshaw and Judkins on the Browns. Well, maybe not. So that's so excited about it. And the one thing is I looked it up earlier this week. The entire backfield out of Judkins has negative yards behind before contact. That includes McLaughlin and his few touches, Raheem Sanders and Dylan Samson. Judkins is barely over. I think it's 0.17 or somewhere around there of yours before contact. The offensive line is doing no favors. Judkins can't get a lot going and Judkins at this point, honestly, for what he looks like, for everybody coming for a Mary and Hampton and the fact that a Mary and Hampton is kind of more of a bruiser than an escape artist and doesn't fit 100% that offense. Look at Judkins so far. He has not been explosive. He was like volume dependent and the volume isn't really doing much because of the Browns offense. So all that being said, I had a decent amount of Judkins as my RB three because it's like, oh, the volume is just going to offset it. But honestly, Judkins equals Woody Marks of last year. You're talking about inefficiency. That's who he is right now. He's 2025. Woody Marks. So all that being said, I'm going with Henderson because of the ceiling. I just think that, yeah, Judkins guarantees me a floor, but the floor is not that enticing that I'm not just going to chase the upside of Henderson. So there are only two spots apart in expert consensus, right? Four spots apart. Yeah. Judkins is two spots ahead at RB 25 Henderson or RB 27. Interestingly, if you look at like all the experts, 81% actually have Judkins ahead of Henderson and half people are exploring. So they're very close in ECR, but it's a pretty wide disparity in terms of the number of experts that are picking Judkins over Henderson in their rankings. Are you going against consensus here, fits and agreeing with Jake, or do you have Judkins higher? I'm with consensus on Judkins two reasons, just the greater certainty of role that we get with Quinshine Judkins and the matchup. The Panthers have a lot of the most rushing yards to running back so far, and they just, they've been hit or miss, and it's kind of in the past like they've been pretty decent, at least respectable against the run when they had Derek Brown healthy and when they didn't have Derek Brown healthy, they completely fell apart so far this season it just hasn't looked good. And I think they're going to be a run fun all year, but Judkins, we know this dude is getting his, you know, 12 carries a game. He said 12 carries each of the first two weeks, probably 15 touches. He'll have a few catches to granted. He is averaging 2.3 yards per carry and has not had a run of 10 or more yards this season. But the matchups have been kind of tough. He does not have a tough matchup this week. I just, I want to see a pattern of usage with Henderson and Stevenson to see sort of where we're going to be. Maybe it's going to oscillate wildly all season. But last week in his first game back, Trivian Henderson had 13 more snaps and 10 more carries than Ramondra Stevenson, but Ramondra lost a fumble, which might have contributed to that. Maybe this week Trivian blows a blocking assignment and Stevenson winds up like getting way more snaps than Henderson. So is it going to be related to what's going on in the game where these guys get yo yo to round every week or is it going to be predictable 55, 45 or 50, 50 as far as the workload split? That's what I want to find out. But it's also going to be Henderson is very big play dependent. So I think he's going to be a hard guy to peg each week. I'm just now realizing. So we usually do kind of two sort of main running back debates and two sort of main receiver debates. And then we get into the more rapid fire segment. I'm just now realizing that all four of those sort of main debates that I included here have a brown or a panther in the mix of the two. And I didn't really notice that when I was putting this together. So you don't really have a lot of browns and panthers. I don't think I really do. Maybe I'm just really curious of how to bet this game. I don't know. I was not a really do that. I'm perfect. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to smash browns and panthers. Yeah. Clearly I got to have this game like on the main TV on Sunday. Like this is the big one for me of the week. The first wide receiver debate I have here is Jalen Coker of the Panthers against James and William's Coker obviously has been a really fun story here to start the season. James and William's the opposite. Obviously we know the talent there though. They are also just two spots apart in consensus this week in ECR and half of EBR scoring. Wide receiver 23 and wide receiver 25 respectively. Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. Who do you like better between Coker and Jamo? I know which way the wind is going to be blowing on this one due to recency bias. But I'm still going with Jamo and although he is off to a really disappointing start. He's like wide receiver 57 or something like that in PPR scoring. He's like wide receiver 16 in expected fantasy scoring. Like he had a couple bad drops in week one, a couple other balls that were maybe a tad off target that he couldn't squeeze. Really bad week one for him and we too not productive either but we know what this Detroit passing game is. It's really good. The whole offense is good and the offense is going to have to move the ball and score points because the defense is so bad. It's still a great spot for James and William's who's been terrific the last two years. I see people spite benching him and I think that is a mistake and Coker's fine too. I think they're both well within the start realm for me but I just like James and more. How wide is the gap in terms of your rankings? It's like five spots. Okay. Yeah. Jake Jalen Coker, you know nine to three spots. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I was going to say Coker, you know, nine targets each of the first two games, eight catches each of the first two games, something in the range of about an average of a hundred yards per game. I didn't do that math really quickly. Two touchdowns in the first game done in the second. It's been a great start here and he gets at Cleveland and then Detroit next week. So maybe this start will continue. And James and William's, though, we know typically like if he's had a couple of bad games, it's almost the good time to bet on a big game from him because you know, it's going to come eventually also, you know, in the back of my mind is to go the other direction though and I'm not sure if you're going to be planning to bring this up or not. You know, in terms of the slow start last year, he was, you know, doing a lot of his good stuff without San LaPorta and now LaPorta is back so that, you know, impacting his usage here. But at any rate, he's wide as you were 25 in ECR, where is he at for you and do you like him better than Jalen Coker? I don't know if anybody can see, but like it, any of that meme or gif were like, I'm silently fuming inside of my head because here's why like, I'm going to try to do this without yelling. I wish I never saw that bleeping interview with Drew Petsing because I sat here the entire preseason and everybody was like, why are you so low on James and William's? Why are you so low on James and Williams? And I was like, because it's Petsing. I think that LaPorta is going to come in and ruin James and Williams. I made the joke a few years ago, what did it take for us to get James and Williams? We just took losing Sam LaPorta. That's what it took. You lost Sam LaPorta. And it wasn't the fact that I hate James and Williams. It was that I think he's a great, why receiver three. You have to deal with the volatility. You have to deal with the late career to Sean Jackson. You're going to get eight great games, six terrible, and then a couple of there's mixed in the middle. That's just what's going to happen. But that's why he's a great, why receiver three, not a why receiver two, which was why I was so down on him. Unfortunately, I saw the Petsing interview and I saw Petsing say, I came in and learned the Lions playbook, I didn't bring much of anything of my own. What would that suggest? Dan Campbell got rid of Morton for not using James and Williams the right way. Went back to great James and Williams. So you would think that would be the playbook. I don't know if they swapped them out. And Morton was like, haha, and switched them on with they weren't looking and gave them the Morton playbook because James and Williams is running down field routes out. Nine's in whatever posts. It's all down field again, which is exactly what Morton was doing when he was ruining them. And I know and I hope that fits everything you said is correct and right. But there is only one pair of teammates that ranks top 12 and their team target percentage. It's cocker McMillan. They are tied. This is vol, like there's two people getting past catches from Bryce Young and if Bryce Young is finally clicking and Bryce Young is everything we thought he could be and Dave Canalis and this offense is working. There are only two people Bryce Young uses, Teterone, Millen and Jalen cocker. I know any given week James and Williams can be left out of the equation, especially if they're going to keep using this way. I do think he's a good by low. That being said, because as fits pointed out, people are spite benching him. He is still inside my top 30, but I am the win blows. I don't know if that was a purposeful pun, but yes, I am getting the blow and continuing to go with Jalen cocker. Yeah. It was funny. Would you say the fumes come out? Well, I was going to say, would you say that you were like sitting there fuming and super angry? - Oh no, is he mad at me for like, you know, stepping on whatever he was about to say about James. - He mad at me. I was like, oh, thank goodness, he didn't mean me. - Stupid pets. - Yeah, they are. - They are both ranked in, like I said, inside that top 25 range. So it's not like. - I have them in the same tier. - Yes, I'm declared, yes. - I don't hate Jameson Williams. - Sure. - I hate Drew Petsing. I hate that interview. I'm trying to never saw it. Well, because I didn't include that part. I moved Jameson Williams inside of my top 20. And also, by the way, the day that I did that, there was an error in my sheet. And everybody was like, well, why is Jameson Williams all of a sudden a Y receiver nine? I was like, oh, crap. And I fixed it, but that, like, brief one hour window. I hope hopefully nobody drafted during that one hour window. I was like, oh, my God, Jameson Williams is all I ever see rewind. - Yeah. I couldn't include him in the larger show because he placed tonight fits. But I am curious, 'cause I was looking at this as a head-to-head option if they didn't play tonight. Matthew Golden, or either of these two guys, how do you have him right to compare to them, just at a curiosity? - Behind both, one spot behind Coker. - Okay. - He's one spot ahead of Coker. - Inside the top 30 though. - I actually go Coker one spot in front of Golden and then three more spots in Jameson Williams. - So like I said, James is not that far off. - It's a good setup for Golden because he's played almost 90% of his snaps outside and the Falcons just put their best outside corner, AJ Tyrell on injured reserve. - Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah, I was just curious, I guess that we don't need to, you know, real quick cyborg. Like, if anybody's going to reach top five status any given week, it is Jameson Williams. Let me make that clear. - Like Sharon, so pure, weekly, upside, pure upside. Like no question about it. - One more wide receiver debate here. Shocker, it's a Cleveland Brown. Denzel Boston, we talked a little bit already earlier at the top of the show against Romeo Dobbs. Who do you guys prefer here? By the way, Dobbs, wide receiver 29 in consensus. Boston is a little bit further down, but I kind of want to project out ahead just given that he's had such a fun start to this season. So, Dobbs or Boston, who do you like? - I'll definitely after my rant of Jameson Williams and Petsing give more time on the floor for a good cohort over here, Fitz, because I have Dobbs in front of Boston, but it's not like, oh man, you need to smash that. This is 100% the right way and anything is like, you could argue, I want to say, I want to leave the floor for Fitz, you could argue meaning to Boston, because the question with Drake May, I brought this up on the podcast. I just did mine with Michael Florio, NFL/EASPN, and we talked about this for anybody out there. The biggest Drake May problem is not just the loss of AJ Brown. It's the offensive line and the way that teams are treating Drake May is last year, and Drake May is terrific under pressure. So, teams this year said, we'll stop sending pressure, and it's not even so much that. It's not just that they're dropping six into coverage against Drake May without AJ Brown, which is a big factor. It's that they're still getting pressure, only setting four, because the offensive line is such an issue. So, you've got Drake May under pressure, which normally is one of the best, but it's different when you're under pressure, and you have six patch rushes coming, and an disposable defense. It's a lot different when there's only four getting in your face, and you still have six guys dropping into coverage. That's what's killing Drake May. So, all that being said, that's why I don't have a big problem if Fitz wants to spend his time arguing for Boston. You could probably talk me into it. - It's like every game that Drake May is playing right now is the chiefs against the Eagles and the Super Bowl, where the Eagles like, didn't let's once, they still had a 50% pressure rate, or whatever the exact numbers were. Yeah, that's what it feels like, and it's pretty much impossible to play quarterback in that scenario. Fitz, we talked about Boston in the waver wire segment, so I'm assuming you have him higher. I haven't checked your updated rankings, but you were so high on Boston. I see you ahead of Dobs for you. - He is. Yeah, I read my love letter to David Boston already, with Dobs and the only Boston. I don't want you to get reamed in the comments. - Oh, Denzel Boston. I said, David Boston, Yikes. So hopefully Denzel Boston does not start hitting the weights like that. - Yeah, Romeo Dobs, the first full game without AJ Brown and he had four targets. And one of those targets did result in a 63-yard catch, which made his day against the Steelers, but I just, we know May is gonna spread the wealth, and like Jake May the point about how teams are defending Drake May, I want to see Drake May start running. Like the perfect setup for him to start running and like showing, he was such an aggressive runner in college. I want to see more of that. But yeah, I'm not that into Dobs and just think he's part of an ensemble cast until AJ Brown comes back and then he's a stage hand. - Yeah. Just because I've asked so many questions on this game, it fits just for fun. Panthers are minus two and a half in Cleveland's in consensus betting. What do you think about that? Take the Browns and the points. - They're gonna win, all right? - Okay, do you think it'll be a high score? Again, the total is like 22. - No. - No, no, no, no, no, it'll be a rock fight. - Love scoring. - It's the end of Bryce Young, you heard it, you heard it. - Yes. Well, if you're not sure who to start, get fast, free, start, sit, or advice. Excuse me with the fantasy pros. Who should I start, tool? Compare your players and get instant recommendations powered by more than 150 fantasy experts. Set your best line up today at fantasyprose.com/start. Sorry, my dog came up to try to tell me something while I was reading that. Let's go out of the rapid fire start, sit, decisions here. Another running back one for you guys. Rashad White or Gikori Krasky-Marit, a couple of backfield mates here in this game against Seattle. If it's starting with you, White or Krasky-Marit. - Oh, this one for people who tried to handcuff a backfield that should not be handcuffed, because they both play complimentary roles. So if you made this mistake, this week I would tell you to go with Rashad White because the one thing the Seahawks don't do spectacularly on defense is cover running backs in the passing game. - Jake, I see your reaction here. You're on board with this. - 100% also because if it goes as expected, they're gonna be passing trying to play catch up and that's not Gikori Krasky-Marit. That's Rashad White. So you have two for two on those arguments. - This is against consensus for both of you. Bill is RB33 and White is RB37. - Consensus. - Consensus says, as Seahawks, Krasky-Marit hire. How about at White Receiver, Chris Godwin? You talked a little bit about them going up against that Vikings defense, Jake, excuse me. Godwin or Michael Wilson this week. - I'm going Michael Wilson. And just Godwin is, I do I wanna guarantee you I get some points. Cool, go with Chris Godwin. But at this point, like I'm going for the upside of Michael Wilson. And the fact that I'm assuming that Gikori Preset is healthier, it sounded like he practiced almost in full yesterday. So I don't know what was going on with the leg. And I know the 49ers are still a worrisome matchup to face, but I'm going for the upside of Michael Wilson, especially as we are seeing the continued decline of any hope for Marvin Harrison. - Fitz, Michael Wilson, White Receiver 35. Chris Godwin, White Receiver 37. Who do you prefer? - I'm like one spot above consensus on Godwin and well below consensus on Michael Wilson. Like the cardinals did not have a completion of 10 yards or more last week against Seattle. And I know Seattle has the best past defense. The 49ers defense is good too though. And by the way, that that hadn't happened since it was the strike season and they were playing with replacement players that a team had not had a completion of 10 or more yards in a game. And by the way, the team that did that in the strike season won the game with 11 passing yards. Here and or there. Yeah, I don't want either of the cardinals receivers in this game. - I was gonna ask the floor. The floor is Godwin. That's what I said. If you don't want to risk the zero. - I, I didn't, I don't have him like as a head to head here but just had a curiosity like straight up, where are you guys ranking? Marvin Harrison Jr., like how buried is he in the rankings at this point for, for either of you? - Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, like, like, uh. - 48 and that feels - Why do you love Marvin Harrison? - You are above consensus Fitz. - 59. - Okay, you're below, he's right in the middle. He's 54 in his yard. He's down by Sheeheed and Keon Coleman for me. That's, and I tell, no DJ Moral, just move up Keon Coleman. This is nothing. - Let's do some flexes here. I wanted to get one with some big names. How about George Pickens off to a slow start or Deandre Swift with no Caleb Williams in all likelihood as his quarterback, Jake, I'll start with you here. Who do you prefer, Pickens or Swift? - Man, I hope they're telling us the truth that we don't have to worry about that turf. Because, if not, I'm taking Pickens. Like, I like Swift and he's, he won't leave you stranded. That's, let's be honest, even with it badgent or if it's case Keon him, whoever it might be, Deandre Swift is going to guarantee you production. And that's why sometimes these running backs versus why receivers, you have to decide, can you risk it or do you need the ceiling? Anybody needs the ceiling? I think this is Pickens get right game. I think Pickens, what he's doing doing so far and there have been opportunities that've been missed. You know, there's one especially, I guess the giant's, like I said, that's why I brought up the Adam's thing. They start tackling Pickens in lamb in the fourth quarter, just like before the bulk could even get to them. So, Pickens, if he had a decent week one, I only think people would be as concerned. Going against the Ravens and what we hope is a shootout. Again, we hope that they're saying this is true. And they've already said the turf's not going to be an issue. Still could be because we've seen it before. I'm going to George Pickens slightly over Swift. It is the much riskier outcome though. - Yeah, there was, you know, I'm not even just nervous about the game. I'm nervous about injuries on that field. Like, obviously, as Ravens say, I'm terrified of that. There's so many big name fantasy guys hidden this Cowboys Ravens matchup that I'm just going to be nervous the entire game. - I mean, I talked about it like the old commanders, turf from like two years ago that was just lowing legs left and right. - There were rumors earlier this week that oh, they might even need to consider moving this game. I saw that someone Ravens Twitter from some pretty well-connected people. That doesn't seem to be the case. [BLANK_AUDIO] they're flying to Brazil tonight. So you that would have decision would have had to be made already. But you know, I was listening to like Mina Kimes is doing her preview of this game just this morning that episode dropped it. She was, yeah, I got like a message from some boots on the ground reporting in Brazil from guys down there saying this field is not in good shape. So like I'm hoping it'll be fine. I'm hoping I'm just being overly worried about it. But yeah, I am nervous there. For you, if it's pick-ins or Swift, you do prefer this week. I'm going with pick-ins too. I just kind of want to avoid the offensive environment. Like I'm in most leagues, I'm starting Swift, but this is the kind of flex question you might face if you're in a 10 team league. And I would rather go with pick-ins here even though pick-ins has yet to really erupt. But I will say this, if the field is a skating rink like the one for the Packers Eagles game was in Brazil a couple of years ago, there were some big plays in the passing game that Eagles Packers game. But like that was much harder for defenders than it was for offense. Yeah, they were trying to react to ball carriers like making cuts and like they would just lose their balance on that turf. So we'll see. But yeah, fingers crossed. No one gets hurt because the injuries is the biggest biggest concern for me. I'm just every every running back carrier is going to be like this. By the way, just on the on Swift against the Eagles, like I know obviously it's different when you don't have your quarterback in there. But he and Menongai both torched this Eagles rush defense last year. They I think it was in the each have over like 20 yards. The Black Friday, yes. Yeah, and it touched out. So yeah, but this this will be a revenge game for the Eagles. They remember that game. And I don't think they're going to get trampled like they did on Black Friday. Another flex one. How about Jalen Warren, Noriko Dato in that backfield or she rice going going this week against the dolphins fits certain to you on this one. Warren or rice. I've got to go with Warren getting like the full backfield share for the most part. I mean, maybe some relief carries by other guys. But like, especially with check down artist Aaron Rogers, like this could be a big Warren game. Jake. Yeah, I think that if we definitively know, I thought it was still up in the air and doubtal that he might as he definitively out then I just I could have missed that. I'll double check see if I can find anything. If he plays, would you play Rishi rice, Jay? I would. And would you play rice anyway? No, I would play rice with it. Like I think it's a close toss up with a doubtal being in the conversation. Yeah. So like I would take Warren because that's what we want is 50 game. It's not 20. It's 15 plus touches. I'm taking Warren and Rishi rice being outside more has been all set by the fact that the targets have decreased. Like he's getting deeper a dot, but he's getting also fewer targets because those are the where these research into Travis Kelsey. This is why Travis Kelsey is working and it's a late late career bounce back. But if there is no doubt I would play Warren. It's a doubtal would make me lean towards rice. And like the scammy screen game has disappeared for Rishi rice. I think they've thrown more screens to Xavier Worthy this season than they have to rise and more to Kenneth Walker. So like it's the usage for Rishi rice is just completely different this year. Like it's he's basically a different player than he has been the last couple of years. I think Worthy does have more targets on the season than rice. Like more screen targets, which is kind of crazy. Not official on Rico yet Jake. You're right about that. He was in a boot yesterday. I practice. So I'm kind of operating as if he's not going to. Yeah. I'm too. I just somebody to keep an eye on. Yeah. Another flex one here. How about two teammates Parker Washington off to a great start this season. Rewarding those managers who bought into the hype or Basel Tutan in this game against the Patriots again. Couple of Jags here. Jags as a Jaguars. Not just the guys. Yeah. Jake. Who do you prefer between Washington and Tutan? Both find a way to start both of them because they serve two great options. Like the big thing is Tutan's getting the lead work that everybody wanted to be like 60% range is getting goal line carry. So I know that Rodriguez is involved but not enough to me to be afraid of Tutan. But I want to find a way to play both of them. Like I want to find a way. If I'm forced, I would take Tutan by a hair. But I mean, you can argue the other way. Like I can go both ways on this one. Like it's just that they're both great options. So why you got to pull out my heartstrings here. I know they're both great options. But you know, this is one of those things where given where they were drafted, you might have a couple of other receivers that you feel like you have to start. And so, you know, Washington is forcing the flex or same as running back. So I wanted to throw it out there as a possibility of fits. What do you think Washington or Tutan? I'm a little stunned that Jake said Tutan here. I feel like this is you're asking me if I'd rather start Jackson Smith and Jig burgeon area in price. And maybe Jake would say price on that one, too, since he's this flag plan. But yeah, for me, it's Parker Washington and not close. Okay. Like Parker Washington is a star. He is a star. Yeah. So those are two players that you definitely wanted to start both Jake. Maybe I can get you to want to start neither with this one. How about Cardinal Tate or Mark Andrews? Who would you rather start on flex next answer? No, I'll take like, you know, biggie, give me one last chance here with Cardinal Tate. Like Cardinal Tate against there's nobody in the secondary for the Giants. Maybe this is the game. It finally starts to click. But where's the upside of Mark Andrews? I'm just not like again, he had all the opportunities last week. And he was still just Mark Andrews. And I know that hurts to say to you, Warren. But he like, it's just, it's a, and it's a wide receiver versus a tight end. Like Cardinal Tate, three plays against the Giants could have 80 yards in a touchdown. Like it's just the Giants secondary is that poor right now. So I will take the chance. Even if I get a zero, one of my missing, I'm going to lose out on seven points for Mark Andrews. If the seven points cost you to match up, I'm sorry. But I'm just taking the chance and Cardinal Tate. Yeah, we don't often put tight ends into the this flex segment. But I want to do it intentionally because Cardinal Tate has been so bad in the Titans offensive environment has been such a struggle that I wanted to kind of put him up against a tight end there. Yeah, I feel like Mark Andrews is every game this season, he's going to get like something between four and six catches for something like 50 yards. That's what he's at 49 yards each of the first two games this season. And it just doesn't get you touched out or not. Like it's going to be like, I think a lot of like, okay, we'll throw to him like nine yards down the field, try to move the chains. And that's it. I just, I'm not seeing any other usage there in these Ravens games. Fitz, who do you prefer Mark Andrews a tight end or Cardinal Tate or a receiver in your flex spot? I just checked my flex rankings, thinking that if I had Andrews ahead of Tate, I would have to change that after Jake had so kindly spotlighted the incompetence of the Giants secondary. But I did have Tate ranked higher. So okay. How about a quarterback Drake May, who obviously very big name of the position, one of the highest ranked guys going into this season, but hasn't been off to a very slow start. Or Tyler Schuck, who was ranked a lot lower in draft season, but has been very good, has had two top eight finishes so far this season. And it looks pretty good doing it outside of that first half against Detroit. By the way, Drake May has not finished higher than QB 23 in his first two games this season. He gets Jacksonville. Schuck gets the Raiders. Fitz, who do you prefer a quarterback? I did like a 75 minute Q&A on our discord last night. And I got this question like seven times. Oh, that fact, that actually I love hearing that because sometimes I throw out these questions, I'm like, does anybody actually have to make this decision? So yeah, a lot of people that a lot of people are facing this decision. And I told them to play Drake May. Okay. Like he's, I think he's going to figure it out. I mean, what Jake was saying about the way he is being played right now. Yeah, but I have complete confidence in Drake May to solve the puzzle. And he's just a better player than Tyler Schuck is. And I know Tyler Schuck is leading the NFL in passing yardage. Look, he threw for over 400 yards against a just calamitous Detroit Lions pass defense in a game where the Saints fell behind 21 nothing and thus Tyler Schuck threw 56 passes. Like that was largely related to game script. Yeah, they're back to back. By the way, NECR, I forget if I actually said that. Yeah, Jake, I mean, Chuck has given you something of a floor even dating back to week 13 of last season. I don't think he's finished lower than QB 16 in that stretch. But you know, facing some easy defenses and certain game scripts like fits is laying out. Who do you like better this week again? They're back to back in ECR. Yeah, I don't know if they may have saw me, but I actually went, I maled wow when fits said it. I have a large gap over Schuck. And I'm, I'm not worried. I'm going to get Schuck is really going down to is that this is they're using them like Jalen Hertz. He's running and getting push pushed and getting the goal line carries. And I know that's not something that you want to stake your claim to too often. But I mean, I would go Schuck over Lawrence on the other side of the ball in this game. I think this is going to be more of a defensive struggle than people think. I think the Jaguars defense is exactly the problem that Drake May is facing so far is that a good secondary that's going to be able to get pressure without sending extra rushers. So I hope I'm wrong because I told people not to drop Drake May. He is one of my byelos. It's going to get better. I don't think what fit said it's only on Drake May. I think part of it is going to be the play calling to I don't know if I trust the Patriots play calling to get it right yet because they like we've seen teams adapt in games let alone two weeks and still haven't changed things. And including what you said is Drake may needs to run more. Well, they point that out to him like that. It's been open in front of him because people are dropping six and coverage. So all that being said, I like I have Schuck over Trevor Lawrence. I'm over Jordan love. I have Schuck inside my top 10. I don't have Drake may inside my top 14. the fantasy pros weekly accuracy rankings right now. I'm 40 fifth, but I'm 156th and quarterback rankings. Listen to Jake, no, no, to be fair because this is where it's going to go wrong. I can bring this up like I don't have you can't see mine. Everybody knows that because the athletic, you know, you pay for the paywall, but you can still find out like where I finished if you did hard enough. Like I was second or third and quarterback last week. So now it's going to go wrong. It's going to flip. Fits is going to finish top five and it's all going to hinge on the shook May rankings. It's going to go the opposite direction. I'm going to be a hundred and seventy third. Fits what the shook. What's what's crazy? You're you're ranking if not quarterback. Are you just like crushing it in the kicker rankings each? No, no, that was specific. No, no, that was specifically quarterback. That's what I was saying. Last but not the top top 20 running backs, top 20 tight ends, doing okay with wide receiver. I've been miserable in defenses so far. So don't listen to me about defenses. Well, let's go to the tight ends see how you guys do on this one. How about Travis Kelsey or Sam LaPorta? Both top six options this week, but I think a lot of people took LaPorta as a starter. Did you really watch friends? Did you watch friends? Yeah, so I can do this and you can get that reference. Yeah. Okay, thank you. I see friends. I am a millennial. I have seen friends. So who do you prefer that, Jessica? I have like back to back. I like I am so excited like it's crazy to say like I brought up earlier. Like I'm excited for the Kelsey resurgence and it's because the chiefs are using them differently there. They gave them that middle of the very few. I don't think if any of this targets were over 10 yards in that game because they're just saying you take the middle of the field, we're send a racity rice outside. That'll be and said why I did that is because you're also bringing up the pain of the LaPorta thing and in LaPorta against the jets, I have one spot. I have them back to back. LaPorta Kelsey and I would actually flip that in a full PPR to Kelsey over LaPorta, but they're that close. I think both are inside the top eight, which I don't think I would have ever said about Kelsey going into this season. If we would have known that they were going to shift to this kind of offensive style, 100%. But yeah, I don't think we would ever be at least me. I don't think I would be talking about Kelsey as a top eight tight end ever again. Fitz, what do you think? Kelsey's looking like prime Travis Kelsey, the chiefs offense is humming. And I talked about what a disaster zone the Lions past defense was. The dolphins past defenses worse. Like I would never set a tight end against the Miami dolphins. Yeah. We're up things up with the touchdown calls. Contest fits. You are on running back this week. And I am, I believe two for two so far. Yeah. Are you guys both two for two? They were both for two for two. I mean, technically, I'm free for two because I told you they'd even take the double touchdown for Devonte. I'm just saying, I don't just say I believe I vote for two. So I am really dragging us down here. Listen, I try to tighten a week one. That's a hard one to get right. Well done. Fitz to actually get a tight end right. And then Aaron Jones gets hurt last week was my running back. Those are my excuses that I'll throw out there. That was unfortunate. So I'm going to go with David Montgomery this week. It's been kind of a sluggish start for him. But the Indy run defense is terrible. And I want to pick on that matchup. I have wide receiver this week. I'm going Teterot McMillan doesn't have one yet this season. But the offense has been humming. He just feels like a player that should be you know, really good at catching touchdowns. Honestly, just the way not the way he's used always but the way he plays. And I'm kind of planting a flag on I think even at home kind of like Jake was talking about. I'm not scared of this Cleveland defense. And I think he gets his first of the season here in week three. So David Montgomery, Teterot McMillan, who is the tight end Jake? I guess I also need to flip my ranks here because my 10 and call is Travis Kelsey for three. And then we're going for three and I'm like Travis Kelsey fits brought out why the other part of the like that's the other thing is like the Laporte versus Kelsey is such a tough one to make. But I get you know what I'll just call Kelsey straight across the board on this because he's my touchdown call and I as well stick with it. So there you go. Montgomery at Ronnie back McMillan at receiver Travis Kelsey at tight end. 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