Fantasy Football Week 2 Live Lineup Q&A: Start/Sit, Trades & Waivers (Ep. 2204)

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Attention, chicken nugget fans. Burger King heard that a lot of you didn't like the old chicken nuggets, so they got to work and reinvented them. These new chicken nuggets are their tastiest, crispiest, juiciest nuggets ever. And because better chicken nuggets deserve better sauces, they've reinvented several of their sauces. And they created a brand new one, the new Special Savory Sauce, which is only available for a limited time at participating U.S. restaurants. Don't wait around. You got to try the new Burger King chicken nuggets today. What's up, friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros. This is the Extra Point Podcast. I am Chris Welsh. That is Andrew Erickson. This is going to do like some big like, and now the great and powerful Andrew Erickson. Andrew Erickson deserves a red carpet. He's a golden god of fantasy. He's one of my best buddies. And he is my number one. Podcast partner here on Fantasy Pros. Andrew Erickson. It's a crowd going wild. Say something, Erickson, quick. Dude, what a grand intro. Thank you, man. That was awesome, dude. That was, dude, I'm ready to run through a wall right now. Never heard a better intro. No, I mean, there's that intro. Number one, the Bulls intro. Also sick. Chicago Bulls. It's actually sick. And not, okay, maybe that's number one. You're number two. But still. In the same tier as the Chicago Bulls. But then if you add in wrestling, though, because like, if you were to say, what are the top five, the top 10 entrances in sports, and you add wrestling, nine of the 10 have to be wrestling. Like, what would be the number? I would have to say Stone Cold. Stone Cold's entrance of the glass shatter and go. Like, that's a good one. Someone in the chat just said The Rock, where if you smell, do you have a top intro now? Were you even a wrestling guy? Well, not a huge wrestling guy, because when I think intros, I think because of playing baseball, going up to the plate. I was never high enough of a level of player where we had songs play, but I know that that happens as you get, you level up in terms of college games. The minor leagues have intro songs. And I always thought like, oh, what would my intro song be up to up to bat? Like, what would I go out to? And I never really think I came up with one. I know that didn't they play with the, when Mariana Rivera would come in to close out? I was about to say, greatest baseball one is Rivera. Yeah, like that one is, oh, sick. It was, they play Enter Sandman, right? Yeah, Enter Sandman. I would say in sports, sports. I don't want to use air quotes of saying real sports, but of that, like Mariana Rivera's entrance is probably one. I'd say the Bulls in general. It's just so iconic at two. But then when you get into wrestling, it's like Stone Cold and The Rock. Undertaker's pretty great. I think you, I think you would vibe with the Shawn Michaels. They think he's cute. They know I'm sexy. I got the moves to drive the girls wide. I'm just a sexy boy. Sexy boy. I'm not your boy. All right. Those are my voice. We're off the rails already. Love it though. Love it though. It's an audio only podcast where we're here for the people, by the people, for and with the people. And if you guys want to be part of those people, you can join us over on the fantasy pros discord at fantasy pros.com slash chat. That'll get you into the discord and not. Not only are there a bunch of just like great rooms and you guys can talk ball and people, you know, in the, in the preseason, we're mock drafting. There's a great community and there's like a hardcore community of people that just kind of live and breathe the discord. But we've got some of these offerings that are AMAs that become podcasts. Worm and Fitz. You can catch on the first Tuesday of every month, 5 p.m. Eastern bogs and fits the third Tuesday of every month, 5 p.m. Eastern. And then of course me and Erickson 2 p.m. Eastern every single Thursday. Come and get your answers, your questions answered and be on the show. Fantasy pros.com slash chat fantasy pros.com slash chat. We've got an audience here. We've got hand raised. When you do it, you get to be here about a day before and you get to see, you get to actually see the impressions too. As I lost my voice doing the Shawn Michaels. Now I'm going to be curious, by the way, for everybody, just got to put this at the top of the show. What is your favorite absolute entrances? If you've got some other great ones, again, triple H is on here. I see Ray Mysterio. Someone was obviously pointing out Erickson. For the undertaker, but feel free in the comments on the podcast on Spotify and wherever you listen, you can put down who are, what are some of your favorite sports entrances wrestling or non I would love to know. Cause we only really got to two great non wrestling entrances and that was the bulls and then Mariana Rivera. There's not a good football. This doesn't do well. Ray Lewis, actually Ray Lewis, when he would come out and be like, well, yeah, no, that one was pretty, that one was pretty fantastic. And I'm always, of course, my Patriots homerism. I'm always a fan of Tom Brady running out of the tunnel, doing the first down signal. I know everyone probably else hates that, but I thought it was cool. And it was, it was terrible that when they built the Tom Brady statue, they didn't put him into that type of pose. And so they just have him like standing up, holding his helmet and it's just bad. So that being said, intros before we get to the meat and potatoes of the show. Okay. Also drop the best intros of movies. Cause I know that this show was made famous by me not watching face off. The best intros of shows for me and movies, dark night, easy, easy. Number one, intro to a movie just sets the table. Just, oh my God, buckle up. Now I got to think that's probably a top five in movies of great intros. I'd throw out if you love comedy, Brooklyn nine, nine, they have one of the best cold opens ever with the lineup where they start singing your one, my whatever the Backstreet Boys are in sync or whatever it is. That's probably one of the greatest cold opens of all time. Yeah. Really good call on the dark night. That's a really, really good one. It's it's so, so when I worked at PFF and I was doing a lot of obviously writing Austin Gale, who's now with the ringer, he was one of my managers. And I remember having one-on-one meetings with him, you know, going through certain things and talking about my intros, right? Just interest your articles. A lot of the time they kind of get overlooked, but he was very vocal about Erickson. You need to make every intro you do like the freaking. Dark night intro. And that just stuck with me through all of the writing that I've done. And it's always, I think about when I get fired up, whether it's one of my standalone weekly articles, if I really want to hit out of the park with an intro, I think about, okay, how do I turn this into the intro to the dark night about fantasy football or about betting or whatever it is. And that has always stuck with me as like some high level advice when it comes to writing intros is make it like the dark. Why so scary? Very ironic, by the way, too, that one of the things, maybe this show is different, but one of the things on fantasy pros, the biggest complaints are bees. If we don't talk about fantasy in the first 22 seconds, there will be someone that complains. So ironic in doing this, that we have strayed away from that. It's my favorite thing to do. We are human beings and have personalities that can talk and have some fun and then we can get to lots of things. So I love to do it, but I have definitely heard complaints whenever I go on tangent. So how ironic. That we're doing your favorite intros where we are not doing sports in the first four or five minutes, but guess what? We get to do that here. It is kind of the, it's, it's one of the more fun pieces. I think Erickson and I both do, because we don't have a script. We don't have anything planned and we get to just kind of go off the rails and we get to answer lots of fantasy questions and we get to talk to you guys. So you guys know how to interact with us on here. Maybe some of these guys are going to drop some of their favorite intros, but more importantly, they're going to drop their fantasy questions. And that is what we are going to be doing. Answering them, talking to you guys, maybe getting to the chat. If we have time for it, not talking about Thursday night football and having the best time ever with just a bunch of great friends. So let's do it. I think Cornwallis might be in a three game streak here of being the first up in the chat. I know it's two straight. I don't know if it's three, but, uh, Cornwallis, what's up, man. Oh, what's up. I'm going to eat the chalk on intros and say Chicago bulls because I was a basketball fan in the nineties and I live in Chicago. Yeah, that's a, it's a, it's a real, it's iconic. I mean, as soon as you hear it and the lights go down, you just like, you just started going. So, uh, as far as questions though, I have a tight end question and then a six or a flex question. So reshifting my tight end room decided to go with like the older PPR boring foreplay and then like a breakout. So for break or for, uh, the PPR guys like Hawkinson or Schultz, and then the breakout types, Terrence Ferguson or, uh, Britain strange. And then my last flex, I'm looking at Dowdle Lloyd, Praveon Henderson or Trey Tucker. Okay. So hold on a second. So you gave us four tight ends. You want us to pick one or do we have to pick one from the boring and one from the. Yeah. One of each, because I want to have like a safe floor guy. And then while I'm waiting for the other one to maybe break out and the, the, who, um, you're going to have to run us through again. The, the boring ones were Schultz and Hawkinson. I think with, it looks like Nico is training to not play. So I would have said Hawkinson. I am now going to say Schultz without Nico. Are you co-signing that Erickson? Yes. Okay. And then Schultz and then Ferguson for me for the upside. What was the other upside guy? It was Ferguson and who? Brenton Strange. Yeah. We go with Ferguson as well. And then who are the, who are the flex options again? Marshawn Lloyd, Rico Dowdle, Praveon Henderson and Trey Tucker leaning Henderson. Just cause I think that the Patriots are going to need some, some spark. Okay. Great, great questions. And I think, uh, he was like fully in practice. I think he practiced here on Thursday. Yeah, he's right. Yeah. They said the latest report was he's full go. So Henderson has the most upside in my opinion. No hesitation with, uh, Marshawn Lloyd or anything like that. Like, like that you would want to maybe play him. No. i don't think anything i saw last week suggested me that we should be he have a lot like that he's anything more than rb3 flex play i mean he didn't even start the game it's on the road the jets are a pass funnel defense i think their defensive line is kind of underrated like they got some dudes up there but their secondary is cheeks yeah all right by the way just you know breaking it again it's not breaking but grade one hamstring for nico collins did not practice on thursday really really bad sign from practicing getting hurt in practice and then not practicing and a hamstring do not expect him to play this week so we will probably revert to all answers being that he is not going to play so that is an uptick for a guy like dalton schultz who is a wide receiver that you are grading up is it no no or is it booty is it booty okay that's the number one booty he'll be the highest ranked guy you just we still don't know what the chemistry is with him and stroud so like hits projection with him and if he gets dj turner then that's like a really tough matchup for him as a wide receiver although he's beaten tougher cornerbacks before derrick stingley specifically noel is like a dart throw probably type of play where he's clearly super talented and has a ton of juice but they just don't play him and it's super annoying the answer i know is not xavier hodgkinson like i know like he is not the answer he if anything like you're hoping that dj turner just covers him and he can just take away the bengals best cornerback so the other guys can try to be productive but ultimately to schultz goes down to this guy could see 10 12 targets top 10 tight end this week i think so just based on volume it's annoying because you know that he's not this super explosive tight end and he's more of a catch and fall down type of guy and he could easily put up like four for 40. but four for 40 and he scores that's a top 12 week schultz or mark andrews schultz okay all right yeah i know your manager's guy i mean he doesn't have he doesn't have juice but i think he's got more juice than mark andrews does so agreed agreed all right uh salt i uh brought you up here what's up salt so i'm heavily invested in uh lad mcconkey so in two leagues 14 team ppr if i've got to replace him keenan allen casey conception mac holland or trey harris oh all the good options and by the way if you had another question there so i'll re-raise your hand i'll bring you back up it continuously got better that was mcmahon meme for me i was like oh oh oh because i was like mac first off erickson you drop an update because we were looking at the are they playing tool on fantasy pros and there's at least as we're recording there's an update but all three of those were really super interesting so let's answer that and then we'll i see salt rays we'll bring salt back up but of the three those i feel like whatever i don't even remember what the first one was but the other three all have my attention you i think might be interested in mac trey harris is super interesting to me if lad isn't out but what would say you on the play i think matt collins is probably the guy that i would gravitate towards the rumblings out of patriots practices this week have he's been leading the wide receivers and all the drills so he may be deployed as the team's number one guy as long as aj brown is out i think he's going to be the number one guy as long as aj brown is out i think he's going to be the number one guy as long as aj brown is out i think he's going to be the that's that's smart i don't necessarily know but clearly romeo dobbs is not an alpha or number one wide receiver we know that he's a complimentary piece did not have a great wednesday night in week one he'll bounce back in some capacity but i think right now when you look at who does drake may trust in this offense matt collins right i think demario douglas is going to see targets but his volume or his upside is limited just because he underneath option even last week he had a like no production really full ppr okay demario douglas is interesting so even against tougher corners like joey porter jr if he plays jamal dean for the steelers drake may's willing to sling it in to matt collins and it's weird but that one training camp that i went to that practice matt collins wearing number 13 with the visor he was giving me mike evans vibes it was very very weird and very very bizarre but like the guy had the swagger he has the confidence and i think that the team is confident and i think that the team is confident and i think that the team is confident that he's going to step up in the absence of aj brown so i like holland's the most i do like trey harris too but i still kind of want to wait and see maybe one more week but yeah i'm kind of torn here i'm down with the mac one i think conception is like a really good floor type of play i actually think trey harris might be a ceiling play because if i just like quinn johnson doesn't run lad routes and i think trey harris could run those lad routes and we know where herbert was going so like i feel like my ceiling play would be trey harris but salt uh what else did you want to add was there anything more on that also curious i guess is the full ppr or half ppr yeah they're both full ppr just one of them's a 17 person chops league so i think you got to go floor on that one which is why i thought maybe keenan allen but i don't know how many uh sets pierce is going to run yeah so i mean oh yeah keenan was the number one guy i don't know like down downs ran a lot and just didn't get targets and there was kind of some late safety targets for keenan allen i actually don't i think he's not the floor play i think the play is conception or mac collins because mac is going to get run i mean conception is scary being just because of watson so i would say the biggest safety play is probably mac then i would go conception and then if you really want safety you could go and you could go allen but i'm super super interested in trey harris i think trace harris has the highest upside so if i was like if i was like bottom half of the chop percentage you know some of the what is it like sleeper that gives you the percentage to be chopped or whatever if i was in the bottom half i would go safety if i'm on the top half i still might go trey harris so that's just where i sit with it anything else or salt yeah just one if i were super anxious to get off of aj brown do you like tet devonta or waddle better i think i lean tet but i don't terrible sample size on waddle yeah terrible what do you think erickson that's a tough one for you first getting i would take devonta or tet either yeah because we both we both have some shared concerns on waddle not just because of the top half but because of the top half because of the top half because of the top half because like bryant looked good but just how the offense was i i think i would go with teta row as my number one and then devonta and then devonta smith but yeah because i think mcmillan smith had fine games in week one i get they were they were but the thing is they were overshined by their teammates but i don't think that's necessarily indicative okay every single week don tb wicks is gonna be more productive than devonta smith every single week jaylen coker is gonna outdo t-mac i don't think that's necessarily the case just it so happened that's how things shook out in week one and those managers feel like oh man like these guys are going to be more productive aren't good where they didn't put up a jaylen waddle level stinker like they both had like decent games so if you could flip aj brown for either of those guys especially just based on the injury and the fact that he's an older receiver he's have to come back from the injury i would do that and i would do it now again if you're gonna trade aj brown do it now don't wait i think it's sick that you can get those options for aj brown right now those are not the options i would think we're talking about if someone wants to eat three weeks of lost production from aj brown i feel like you would be swimming in a much oh it's it's a keeper league oh that does i don't know if that changes much i don't like those guys are both younger than tetherow and more now tetherow even more draft pick yeah if it's yeah all right good question salt great stuff there uh sir buckets sort of buckets in the house squish this better be a good intro you're waiting for us sir buckets basketball that's a also a great bit that was in my head when we're thinking about it all right what's up man uh hello hello hey sorry about that all good so i'm between uh roma dunzey uh and isaiah likely and for a flex spot oh i mean that's actually kind of fun but i would go with roma dunzey i think on this one usually don't ever sign off on starting more tight ends if i don't have to that's usually my default but he was the number one like likely mm-hmm i do like likely he's got a good matchup against the rams shootout i do like rome though as well are you gonna say likely i don't know why i want to know who their other tight end is i'm not sure if that actually matters i'm like well who's their other tight end can we bench that obviously it's probably better tight than likely or else that wouldn't be considering likely in the flex okay no um i mean i'll just do roma that's fine okay you were torn man like good lord i mean sometimes look i think everyone expects us when we answer start to questions that it's like lay up lay up lay up all these basketball comparisons on this fantasy football podcast which we absolutely love sometimes we really get torn and then we check our rankings and we literally have them back to back and because the rankings they have to be linear sometimes you don't feel that way and you're like man this really is a coin flip but uh when in doubt don't start more than one tight end if you don't have to yeah i think that's a good um piece of advice i've always been super super pro like there's so many people out there that are just so definitive and it's like there's no wiggle room for any information i think that's where people get kind of lost sometimes and like the i mean i'll say it like the fantasy pros the analysts the touts whatever is i always see whenever people are complaining about people of us i guess i work in the industry they're like oh everybody talks in such definitives and i just want to be like i don't like i'm i it is a continuing process every day all the time going through it and I welcome having debates and like, we'll do like player debates do this all the time with you and you do it really really well erickson you're not someone it's just like you're so definitive in it like we'll talk about something and then you're like you know it's actually a really good point and then you'll dig deeper and then you might change your mind like talking through it is healthy it's good that's what we're doing so i agree with you i don't think either one of us ever walk in here with like we know exactly what we're going to say like no like open to it i see why you would ask the question about likely there's a fair question he had a bunch of touchdowns there's number one tied in it's a totally fair question i'd still go with the doomsday but it might not be right and hopefully it is and hopefully we don't have big l's on our heads and go two and three on the prop show while the other guy goes four and one and doesn't get a touchdown call i don't know yeah but i don't have as high of a player rating as you do so well no big deal but i do are you goat status i am i'm one spot off from goat set so people don't know we have profiles we have fantasy profiles now available so I mean like profile like it is your history and we have player cards so it's kind of like you know when you do your ultimate team and like madden or something like that and then you'll have like the players you unlock a pack and you get a player card you get your own player card and you can upgrade your player card as it goes on and it connects and it and it weights like championships records how you do in waivers and all that type of stuff we found out that i might be kind of elite with us as far as i'm concerned but i'm not sure if i'm going to be able to do that but i'm going to be able to do that as far as my record when we synced all of our fantasy leagues in there i'm not quite goat status but i'm right there erickson no big deal and you guys can do it fantasypros.com slash profile i think fantasypros.com slash profile go and sync and you guys can get your own profiles and your player cards and you can share them with us i would love to see that yeah i am 72 overall which is the equivalent to geno smith so i got work to do we were laughing so hard because also it the the color coding was green like the so we were laughing so hard when we saw that but yeah fantasypros.com slash profile if you guys want to go check out yours and see what you've got and share it to the world and you can see uh i i do want to commend you you were kind of goaded on waivers you had a really good grade on how you attack waivers over your career so it literally will be like how you draft waivers trades all lineups all that stuff you're you're kind of a g when it comes to waivers so kaylon black this week all right uh by the way uh salt said caitlin clark's open what is caitlin clark's open i don't know if i know like individual basketball i think like her coming out is gonna people are gonna like explode because she's speaking of the goat yeah that's all it's saying just at any stadium when she comes out she just the crowd goes wild absolutely oh look at bunting bunting just 88 overall yeah look at that record 299 and 191 that's a what my record is not that good and oh my god look at his lineup dude 94 out of 100 that's that's actually sick that's a sick card but he's an 88 overall so you're not quite welsh level but you're getting there so keep it up bunting keep it up that's actually really sick and then monday night messiah said mine was an 85 so yeah if you haven't done it go and sync it up fantasy pros.com slash profile and uh let us know what it is bunting shared his player card that's pretty sick pretty cool idea who came up with that player card too huh erickson i wonder probably someone in the maybe maybe the same guy that comes up with all these great intros for me i don't know maybe but probably some like really smart dev person that only came up with that player card and not some lowly like on-air host that talks for six minutes before they get to fantasy right that would be cool all right let's talk to some more people uh or actually you know what before we do so i don't get tracked so i can be a good host because i can't make my living off of coming up with ideas but i can talking to you guys about polymarket football is back folks and it's 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i'm my rbs are crap it's basically marshall lloyd jacory cross and merit it's also i believe brooks coleman emmett johnson and charbonnet on the ir yeah it's pretty rough yeah so the other team one has derrick henry scatterbow and price aj brown went down on him and the other team two has walker swift and henderson do you think i should trade one of my top wide receivers for any of those guys and if so what package do you think i should do yeah so here's what's tough erickson get your take on this i don't think the like his three wide receivers he's got lamb jefferson and then he has neighbors and then when you go and look at the bench it's like boston and and addison like that that doesn't really do much so like i think he can only swim in the deep waters here like you got it neighbors lamb jefferson and you gotta swim for uh derrick henry or one of the top guys i just don't think you can trade it doesn't make sense to trade down and trade because like there was a secondary running back there's a lot of names in there but like what do you think would you trade let's just arguably say a cd lamb to get a ken walker or derrick henry would you make that move because i don't think he has the assets to make like a package move of trading like two or three guys to get a cool running back no you trade your best receiver to get the best running back in return and this is one of these scenarios where you're not trying to figure out do i trade jefferson because i like him less rest of season than lamb it's which receiver that i have gets me the best running back that's because your goal here is you need to improve the running back room and you can't get too caught up in well i don't want to trade away jefferson should i trade away instead because he was worse in week one that doesn't matter i think you just got to focus on getting the best running back and whichever receiver that takes whether it's lamb or jefferson that's who you should move yeah and i would say i don't want to move jefferson but i think it's a really i think that's really good sound advice from erickson it's like put the three out there and now i do think you could go and you could go to like let's say the derrick henry owner and say i'll give you lamb or neighbors and then see what they do ken walker maybe you do the same thing and then you sometimes what you do i've always been a very big proponent of this in trades if you have come to terms with this beforehand and you've told yourself that you would trade any of them giving somebody else the power or the the theoretical feeling of power is such an advanced move for you in a fantasy trade where you can go hey i'll give you this which of these guys do you like and then on the other of a sudden it goes away from someone uh negating a trade to being like well i like this guy it's like okay if that's what you want like you've given have you ever i don't know like in the business world i've worked some jobs before not this current one of course but were some jobs where i worked with people that you had to make it seem like the idea was their idea some people could probably relate with that the same thing in the trade market can work where you can a give them the option which of these guys would you move and then if they go well neither i actually want jefferson you go you drive a hard bargain but okay i'll do it because you've already prepared yourself so giving someone else the perceived power sometimes is actually a power move for you if you've come to terms with it all by the way in the chat there's still no one as high as me erickson but our boy alex dropped uh he's got a 92 overall legend status on fantasy pros fantasy bros.com slash profile that's actually pretty sick and he's got the red card here a couple championships kind of looks like a little bit new to fantasy but holy crap a 92 overall on waivers that's actually the that's better than you that's the best waivers i've seen rating so shout out to alex here but still not quite my card no big deal no big deal dorchard what's up dorchard what you got for us dorchard come on down hey guys can you hear me yeah we got you good man all right thanks a lot my first time here love the banter it was super fun thanks man let's see the classic question i got uh i'm half ppr just want to know who you guys recommend let's say i put it in the chat here who all i've got i got uh evans who i'm currently starting then i got on the bench i got jcm or jcm digs oduns and debo samuel okay so you want to know should any of those guys go in over evans yeah okay cool good question uh that's an easy answer for me but erickson start mike evans where do you have this week ahead of christian watson which oh watson is like 10 i think on fantasy pros easier i have evans at 12 so i'm as a wide receiver one this week historically bad i think i saw a stat someone was putting out like this might actually be one of the worst defenses like ever for the dolphins like we're gonna have to i have mike evans at 11 damn it you got one spot higher than me can i get him to 12 i might well evans would be the very easy a good question good uh options to have by the way but go with mikey evies all right this is later dude all right if if you're going to go with mikey evans you're going to have one spot higher than mikey evans you're going to have to go with mikey evans if nico and lad don't play for my flex spot tpr should i play schultz caleb douglas or trey harris schultz caleb douglas or trey hair and you only if they both don't play you're only gonna have one spot open or two no just one spot open okay what did you say erickson schultz caleb douglas and trey i gotta tell you i'm i'm getting infatuated with trey harris this week i think schultz is your safety net and erickson is definitely a smarter more handsome person than i am so that is a good lean but i can't get over trey harris so if lad is out i think i'm gonna go trey harris i'm probably gonna put trey harris is like top 36 if lad is out like in that range like quinn johnston is like a top 30 guy but i'm just not so i again i think trey is gonna run some of the ladder routes than before i think quinn johnson is maybe i'm wrong who's the other guy maybe that's the answer i don't think that's i don't think that's wrong when you look back and i remember when i watched all trey harris's routes last year he was running a lot of like keenan allen routes it was kind of weird because i think everyone just kind of assumes he's just this vertical x receiver and i think that when these three guys are healthy that's the role that he should be in or will be in but no man like maybe i should move trey harris i guess like i mean he did see like seven targets last week too so maybe i need to be more up into it okay and also like i like trey harris a lot like he's the one sleeper i have left that's still standing your guy by the way like how am i talking trey guys andrew erickson was talking about trey harris before trey harris's mother was talking about trey harris he's out here spreading the good word of trey harris this year while d bro is talking about quinn johnson this is your moment dude fly bird fly free oh yeah okay trey harris is out there i'm gonna put trey harris on the line i'm gonna put trey harris on the line hell yeah hell yeah brother by the way one of my favorite things if if you do hang in here because erickson hates this but it's just part of just my personality and brand but my self-deprecation i actually love it's why i love erickson so much too like the annoyance on his face when i go self-deprecating i love it i love it because you love me in some capacity and i and i appreciate you you don't you don't you don't want me to bring the world down large capacity you know what's really funny this is another little side anecdotal thing i love erickson because he's the one who's we we do our fantasy pros trips like erickson and i the first like couple years we do like occasional shows and whatever but we go on our big fantasy pros trip like me and erickson are together the whole time and it's just like it's just how we roll like and it's not even me totally playing a father role uh because i am so much older than you but we are like we like hang out the entire time we have the best time and we had a great time in new orleans this year because erickson is the best time to hang out with you want to hang out with erickson when you can so buy that man a beer give him a hug and tell him i love you all right steve-o i don't know this steve-o don't do anything to yourself but burn yourself or anything steve-o come down please come down from that giant sign with the orcas all right oh there we go there we go sweet what's up dude hey guys so i'm currently in a 10-man full ppr league i have a running back heavy roster but one of my receivers that i was relying on was nico collins i'm a running back heavy roster but one of my receivers that i was relying on was nico collins so i went and looked at the market in my league of what's available and the two that i'm able to grab is terry mclaurin or debo samuel right now that i'm looking at what do you mean to grab to like to trade for they're in free agency right now oh sorry oh yeah terry man yeah terry so so i'm an eagles fan so i saw that game with terry i'm just concerned like i know that the cowboy secondary has been very bad the past two well last year and this past week but that's why so you guys still think terry mclaurin though brother this is the terry mclaurin experience the terry mclaurin experience is like a bad game and then he has a 50 yarder he's gonna ball out he's the number one on that team as an eagles fan you know that he always plays terrible against your team yeah he never does anything good by the way yeah so i again you should know that he is prime for a bounce back spot after putting up a nothing burger in week one when quinn yet mitchell is shadowing him all over the field dude how many seconds did your point how many seconds did jayden daniels have steve-o to to throw each ball not many not many not many seconds yeah yeah dude that's actually a really great spot no i'll bet you nobody in this chat and i'll bet you less than 10 of the people are listening that lose nico collins can go pick up terry mclaurin like you know what i'm saying like that's like a really great spot to be in now it could fail like i remember last week dumbest thing i said all week and it's a hindsight thing because in the live stream on sunday morning someone astutely was like hey what do you think about caleb douglas over drake london and like i'm like no way like i'm still starting drake london i didn't think cooper rush would be that hindsight obviously tells a great story about caleb douglas does but it takes a lot of cojones to be able to make a move away from like a really stud player to some theoretical stuff terry mclaurin's not theoretical like this is great now we might be wrong the process might be wrong or whatever but like go with the go with the studs dude that's like a really good point and i think it's a really good point and i think it's a really good great option no one's going to have that option it's a great question steve it's actually a fun kind of conversation too and i get the logic of it but i don't know to me this has always been the terry this is why i'm not super like a terry mclaurin guy because this is the experience of like there's a crappy one and then all of a sudden you know what it was he lead the league in 50 plus yard touchdowns like that's what he does that's where he goes man i don't remember who the other guy he said was an option either but it's not terry mclaurin all right ronan ruden premium member what up hey gentlemen how you doing we're doing good dude how are you doing i'm doing well basic flex question i got two flex spots open and uh wondering if krosky merit waddles quentin johnston or blake quorum should fill those spots do it one more time for me bill waddle yep johnston and blake quorum okay so this is waddle or johnston and i need two spots or did you say two well then those are the ones for me i said two the receivers i would say johnson for sure if you got you got to play johnson if if you don't have john if you have johnson you don't play him with lad out they shouldn't have drafted him yeah right it's like it's like you got to take a you got to take a shot here and because again even though he's not going to replace lad's routes specifically volume should open up in his favor it's favorable match against the raiders i think you got to start qj i think waddle versus quorum is more subject to debate i think quorum's floor is way higher than i think that he's guaranteed 12 touches or so and we know he's explosive giants they're playing them at home i like that and then waddle is boom or bust which is not very different i i think the fact that he was so bad and he didn't get involved at all squeaky wheel a little bit so i think i do lean a little bit towards waddle with the ceiling outcome but if i needed more of a floor okay i guess too you can put this context because the broncos play later in the day you can see your matchup a little bit and look at okay do i need to swing for the fence defenses, let's go with waddle. If I'm like, oh, I'm already steamrolling this guy. I just got to bank some points. Let's just roll with Corum, and then if Waddle goes off of my bench, don't care, because I know I have him on my roster the rest of the season, and I know that this is going to work out, but again, if you have a big lead, don't take the risk of Waddle just busting and assuming that, hey, this offense still is a much work in progress with Davis Webb calling plays. That's a really good point. Did you earlier, we were talking about it, did you give us the percentages on the Will They Start tool on both Ladd and Zay Flowers? Because I know you did it pre-show, and I think I brought it up, but then I think we, like, squirrel, you know, we went in another direction, but the percentages, at least on the Are They Playing tool, it doesn't look good right now. No, it's below 50% for both of them. Yeah, Ladd was on a side field on Thursday, which might be a little bit better, but a lot of wide receivers are going to be down. I love when they have these side field things just, like, adjacent to the regular practice field, because, like, well, this is the field where all the guys that are injured go. Yeah, get over it. Get out of here. Risk band is going to be up next, but talking on some traits here, if you guys want to double your chances of winning your league, make sure you check out the Trade Analyzer from Fantasy Pros. Active Fantasy Pros users are twice as likely to win when using it. Sync your league for free and get fast, personalized advice for your lineup, waivers, trades, and more, all powered by 100-plus experts. You can go and check it out. Get started at fantasypros.com slash myplaybook, or on the My Playbook app. It's got you covered with all the tools when we're not here. We're not always here. It feels like we're always here. We're always together. We might not be exactly when you need it, so make sure you check out my Playbook and the Trade Analyzer. All right, Risk Band, premium member on the Discord. What's up, Risk Band? Hi, guys. Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you. Yes. Nice talking to you. Well, two quick questions. I have on Webers Goddard, and I was trying to swap him for Marvin Harrison. I don't know if you would suggest that. Should I switch, or should I keep Harrison stashed to see if it happens? Before Erickson, because he's already doing head movement, but what is your tight end? Ah, it's McBride. Does it change anything for you, Erickson, whatsoever? No. Okay. I mean. I'm thinking maybe having something for trade stock. Maybe I could get something having Goddard, offering Goddard. Yeah, I think that's smart. Get two good tight ends, and then you can trade one, because you're going to get more. All right. Last thing. What's your wide receiver room look like? Who are your other wide outs? My wide receivers are. It's Chase. Pretty good. And the other one. The other guy. It doesn't matter. Okay, you're right. It probably doesn't matter. It's just a little relative to my point of, like, is my. Gary Wilson. Gary Wilson's my other. Do you have any other bench? Do you know what your other bench guys are? Do you have the team out? Yeah. Yeah, here. At wide receiver, I got Wicks and Golden. Okay, so follow me here. I know, because I want you to. Erickson's going to have the best advice on this, but as much as I love to hate on Marvin Harrison, one of my favorite pastimes, definitely is, is the wide receiver room there doesn't feel super, super great, and maybe it takes a little bit longer for Harrison to go. Goddard's a really great flex option, but it's not a need. I think you can make this move. I think, based on my roster construction, I don't think I'm making it quite yet, but Erickson, you seem a little bit more convicted, and I appreciate that you think Marvin Harrison is trash, so talk us through this. I don't think he's trash, but he's the fourth receiver on the Arizona Cardinals, and they're facing the Seahawks this week. Like, I just, it's. Yeah. So, he's going to look great next year when he's on the Jets with Archie Manning, okay? It's going to be awesome. Gary Wilson. It's going to be absolutely fantastic. So, uh. Yeah, go ahead. At flex, the same team, should I go with Tootin or Golden at PPR? Tootin or Golden? Was he up in a draft, by the way? That sounded like he was drafting. I would go Tootin. Yeah, talk about. I mean, that Denver Broncos defense, if they're going to keep missing tackles, then Tootin should have some big runs. I gotta admit, though, I have three wide receivers that are just stuck in my brain, and I'm obsessed with, and I feel like I'm going to. it's going to spill over into the prop show, and it's Matthew Golden, it's Pat Bryant, and, uh. Trey Harris? And Trey Harris. Like, I'm. I have, like. I'm a little obsessed. I could squad ride some Trey Harris receiving errands, some alts. Yeah, I'm a little obsessed with those. Dude, he had a long. he had a long pass interference call last week. If he catches that, the box score of the conversation looks totally different about Trey Harris, to your point. But, dude, how sick am I going to be if last week, I bet Quentin Johnson's over yards, and then he fails me, and then I go Trey Harris, another one, and then Quentin Johnson does it. It's going to be a slap in the face, but. Yeah, are you putting Quentin Johnson back on the card this week? No. I have to look at the. Oh, you can't run away, man. You've got to double down. Depends. We'll have to look. I haven't. I'm going to dig in after this. I've got a million shows today. That's what I've got to do next. All right. Let's go lightning around here so we can get the rest of these good questions there. I think we did this last week. Mocs? Right? Mocs? Mooks. Mooks. Damn it. Damn it. I had it. I talked so fast. What up? I got two quick Dynasty trade questions. This one you're going to love, and I probably know where you're going. But I do already have Trey Harris Pat Bryant, but I have Likely. Another guy really, really wants Likely. He said he would give me a second in Golden for Likely or BTJ for Likely. Or hold Likely. I also have Fannin. You have Fannin? Well, I like Likely over Fannin. That second in Golden is pretty sexy in a Dynasty trade. That's, I think, where I'm going. I think I'd rather BTJ, honestly. Straight up? No pick? Yeah. BTJ's not going to be on the. I don't think he's going to be on the Jaguars. In the long term. Him and Marvin are going to be with the Jets next year? BTJ? No. He's going to be on the Commanders with Jane Daniels. Oh, that's great. And Declan Doyle as the new head coach. We're just like manifesting this brand new Commanders offense in 2027. This is like Madden. You're just like putting all these new players on. What was the other question? Other one real fast. So I have Zay as my wide receiver 3. Corum as my RB4. And this guy, he's asking Zay, Corum, and a presumably late second for A-Chan, Devon, who would be my running back 2, and Kincaid, who would be my tight end 1. What do you think? I feel like that's that almost, I mean, it's essentially flowers for A-Chan there, because it's a lot to give up on flowers, but Corum is something there. What would you do on that dynasty there, Erickson? I want Zay. Dynasty. You want to keep him? I want to hold him. Hold, hold, hold, Nick. Nick Lario. What's up, Nick? Hey, guys. Appreciate you as always. I put my more complicated question in the chat. Basically, lost A.J. Brown, maybe lost Ladd also. So, trying to figure out what to do with my wide receiver 2 and Flex. I got the Browns rookies on there. Figured KC might get some touches, but the Dolphins guys on waivers, or Trey Harris, you know, if Ladd's out. A couple just like potential streaming options. Curious where you'd go there. And then question number 2 is basically. Hold on, hold on. Let's stop there for a second. Is this, like, these waiver. I gotta understand. Pre-agency. Yeah, but, like, do you have to cut somebody on your team, or is it because you have a billion guys on IR, you can just freely pick them up? I would have to drop, like, Jonah Coleman or, like, Denzel Boston or something. Yeah, well, that's not nothing. So then, real quick, let's do that, because obviously, like, I'm digging myself a Trey Harris hole here, so I need to maybe get out of it. But, Erickson, what do you think? Caleb Douglas or Trey Harris? Would you drop Jonah Coleman? Or Boston to pick up either one of them? I would drop Denzel Boston. For who? Trey Harris. Okay. That's helpful. Okay. Thank you. The other quick question, I have Colson Loveland at tight end in another half-PPR league. Would either be starting Luther Burden along with him, which didn't work out last week, but what can you do? Or Jeremiah Love against a very tough Seattle defense? So it's Loveland, or. So, uh, Burden or Love. Oh, Burden or Love. Okay. I think. I think I would go with. Did he say if it's full PPR? Nah, it doesn't really make a difference. Do you have a lean? I'm pretty torn. Do you have a strong lean? I mean. I gotta be honest with you, probably Burden. I hate. I'm against the Bears a little bit this week, because I think it's a tough matchup, but also, like, Jeremiah Love's going up against the Seahawks. Like, that's not great. Yeah. I guess, like, I'm trying to think with Burden, because Burden had, like, a decent game last week. Like, it wasn't like he was totally zero. And if you're thinking about, okay, Brian Flores is gonna throw a bazillion blitzes at Caleb Williams, Luther Burden probably operating closer to line of scrimmage. If they don't have the big flash he plays downfield, you could see Burden with a decent floor. So, I think I'll also lean Burden as well. Okay, last three. Okay. Lightning round here. Alex, premium member on the Discord. What do you got, Alex? Gotta unmute. I see the mute button, but I can't unmute you for you. Three, two, one. Alex, if you can figure that out, re-raise your hand and we will get you up. STL. What's up, STL? Hey, what's up, guys? Real quick. Line-up advice for this week. I'm in a 12-man standard scoring league, so no PPR. Start two out of Amika Agbuka Aaron Jones Alec Pierce and Romadunze and then the follow-up for that would be would you be actively trying to trade Igbuka presumably for maybe like a buy low and like the guy or another guy in my league has Drake London and AJ Brown and he's panicking so would you trade Igbuka for either one of those guys? It's a bad question to ask me. I'm Igbuka and Aaron Jones on the play. I think Igbuka is going to eat. I've said this stat a whole bunch but he was either one or two in most movement pre-snap and the Browns got torched in the slot. I know Godwin will play there but so will Mecca Igbuka. So I don't know. I just love Mecca. I'm not trading him for AJ Brown. Maybe I could do it for London if I wanted to do that but I think he's not that far off so I'm starting Igbuka and Jones and then I don't know. The London one has me thinking but not the AJ Brown one. What do you think Erickson? I think right now I just want to keep Igbuka, right? I don't think that because again you could make this trade next week too, right? And I think Igbuka is probably in for another bigger performance. Last week I thought that he was fine. Again, Baker didn't throw any touchdowns, four turnovers, so a relatively okay game for Igbuka but still the target leader. Godwin didn't take as much of a role in terms of the targets as maybe I thought for at least week one and Igbuka was dealing with like this toe thing, right? So I thought that he looked fine. And I think that you can just revisit. I think next week they're going to have to give you more to get Egmeca Igbuka so you could do Drake London plus something if you really want to go after and buy a low on one of these receivers. I like that. Very good advice. All right, last one. Louie. Louie, Louie. Louie, Louie. What up? Hello. Quick question. So I need a stash of a wide receiver. Last spot on my bench. It's a full PPR. Khalif Raymond or Antonio Williams? Stash, he said. Stash. Yeah, this is a stash. Antonio Williams. Antonio Williams, 100%. Do you see those separation scores too? You're just like, hello, Antonio Williams. I mean, I like him a lot. I actually have him in the 16-team dynasty. We even draft like college guys. I've owned him since last year or rostered him since last year. And I'm an Antonio Williams guy. And I thought he would have been, he was such a target for me before Stefan Diggs signed. Yeah. He's the best sign or stash. Yeah. I think too, the fact that he was able to lead the team in receiving yards in his first game as a rookie, I guess it was the Eagles matchup and that obviously he wasn't going up against Quinn Young Mitchell, but still Cooper Dijon. He matched up with him a couple of times. Like he was creating separation. I liked him a lot coming out of Clemson. He did do this a lot of Clemson though, where he started out really hot and then really fizzled out as the season progressed. Hopefully that's not a sign of things to come, but Harry's older. Iggs is older. Those guys miss time. Williams at least showing, Hey, proof of concept. Hey, I can step up when called upon. And he did so in week one. All right. Alex, give it another shot. You're still muted though. Going one. He said he's like, I hope it works too. Oh man. Got to hit the unmute button. Maybe. Possibly. No, extra points. Not good. But the extra point is over. But you know what? Here's a cool thing, especially for someone like Alex is Erickson and I always stick around for a couple of minutes after this is done. Answer any of those Thursday night questions people have held. And you know, some of the situation like this, if he, if Alex gets it figured out, didn't make the podcast, but we're still here to answer it or can drop it in the chat. We're here for you. That's why we want you guys to join us. Fantasy pros.com slash chat. That's on the discord. If you've got a fantasy pros, just account, even if it's just a free account, it can like hook up and log in and you're good on the discord. That's all that you really need. You can get the premium side if you would like and lock everything and AMAs and everything like that. But come and check us out. And you guys can hang with us 2 p.m. Eastern every Thursday. As we do this bad boy live, make sure you also check out. Erickson's got some betting pro stuff that's out there. Of course, we got the prop show again. Erickson crushed it last week. Four and one also hit a two and a half to one touchdown call. So you're going to have, you got big shoes to fill. I got little baby shoes to fill. I got nothing to only going up. I mean, I could have been worse for sure, but Erickson absolutely killed it. So hopefully you can see Erickson gets mad. He's like, stop it. You stop it. I got your goat status, man. I've got comes to the fantasy pro style when it comes to fantasy. 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