Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 5 Games, Smooshed! - Podcast for 10/8

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. It's football time. Do something, George. Here we get Dallas tonight. Please, George. Thursday, October 8th, 2026. George, I see the money slipping away. I see it falling through your hands, George. He's going to be fine. I know, I know. He's always been inconsistent. We had a fake consistent stretch last year where it was like, oh. Oh, he's the guy. It's just, this is who he is. Well, I mean, he was the guy when there was no Seedy. Right. That was good when Seedy was there as well. But not consistent. Right. Thus, those last two weeks where everyone was like, oh, George has quit on the team. I mean, I think it is unfortunately a fair conversation to have about, like, he was always inconsistent with Pittsburgh. Then you're the dude for Dak, which is a big upgrade to anything you had in Pittsburgh. Right. And then Seedy. And then Seedy. And then Seedy came back. I mean, calling someone inconsistent playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers when they have absolute hot doo-doo trash throwing you the ball. I'm not calling him anything. I'm just speaking. Jason is. I'm speaking statistically. Well, yeah. I mean, I'm saying he was inconsistent. Yes. I only said that because he was inconsistent. Otherwise. So his reasons for being inconsistent, I don't know. But I also think it's not just the doo-doo trash garbage throwing him the ball, which was for sure doo-doo trash. Thank you. It was bad. But it's also his, his archetype. Like the same reason that Jamison Williams is not going to, you know, he's not the every third down possession, you know, chain mover type guys, the run down the field, catch amazing, crazy, cool, fantasy relevant bombs. Four of the last six games, he was wide receiver 30 or later last year, which is crazy because he had it. He was the wide receiver five on the year. Yeah. But maybe we saw. I mean, you go back to about week seven. Which games were you saying? Well, just, just go from week seven. So week seven, you had one, two, three, four, five, six, six of eight at 27 or lower. So I think that is archetype. And then you had the super high volume in that five week stretch where that's 150 target pace. Also from week seven on all those bad games you talked about three times in the top five. It's like, he's awesome. Not only play George Pickens, trade for George Pickens. Like, yeah. He's going to have bright, amazing days ahead. And right now I think some people are afraid that, especially after last week where CD got everything where it's just like, oh, we were wrong. This is CD's team and George is not involved. That's not the truth either. Yeah. I mean, this is not JMO because JMO has more competition in a lot of regards in terms of LaPorta, greater sign Ferguson, Gibbs, greater sign Javante in the receiving game. Like Pickens is the second fiddle. JMO can be the fifth fiddle. Yeah. If, if, if the game goes the wrong way, that's not beating the devil. No, no, it's not. We have so much to talk about today. NFL news to get into starts of the week. Tons of matchups for week five, lots going on. A lot of like injury situations that are just like murky and quiet right now. So it's important. If you have an injured player, you'll want to tune in on Friday to our injury blitz podcast hosted by our injury expert, Matthew Betts. It comes out in the afternoons on Friday after the final practice reports are released. We'll get you. We'll get you. We'll get you up to date as much as we can today on stuff. The community's over at join the foot.com. That's how you get access to that podcast. A bonus episode of this show every week, the ultimate dashboard, which is an elite tool to get your lineups right for all your leagues. You can import from every platform and optimize your lineups. We've got all the in-season tools and all that at join the foot.com. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league. Yeah. Brooks does point out the fact that, you know, Pickens was drafted as the wide receiver 10 this year, whereas like Jamos drafted in the fifth round, third round, fifth round. Yeah. Cause I mean, that's, that's right. Through four weeks, you expected at least, at least one bought a boom from George. It could happen tonight. So it shall. I'm excited. We shall speak it into existence. There you go. The Panthers are hopeful. Jalen Coker will be ready to return to action following the week five by. So they're on by this week. You don't get tat after his huge performance. No Darren Waller, no Chuba, no Coker. But they're hoping he's back, which I mean, cool. It's good for Bryce Young. Good for the offense. Lamar Jackson did not practice on Wednesday. They're the Sunday night football game. Hopefully we have answers so that Mike doesn't have to panic. It was, it was being reported that today, that today is going to be like, if he practices today, he's got a chance to play. If he doesn't practice today, he's not going to play. So I think we'll know, uh, well in advance, but the assumption is that it's an uphill battle for him to play because he has. A mysterious type of ankle. It's unorthodox. It's not high. It's not low. It's just right. It's a Goldilocks ankle situation. Matt LaFleur says Jeremiah loves ankle injury quote. Shouldn't impact him for week five against the lions. So that that's helpful. That's helpful because Jeremiah love sure sounded like it was going to impact him there. There's just some players. Like I have a league with Jeremiah love, right? I have to choose. Do I play Jacob Dobbins this week over love? Do I play Ollie Gordon this week over love? Like, I think Jeremiah love is an actual like start set conundrum for this year because the matchup, we love it. If LaFleur isn't a liar here that his ankle injury shouldn't impact him, then he should get a lot of work, right? I watched those guys. I'd play love over both of those. I watched some practice videos. Which one in particular? Certainly over J.K. Dobbins. Dobbins has been so bad. Put them in order is what I'm saying. Oh, of the three. Yeah. Would you play Ollie Gordon? I mean, I would definitely play Ollie Gordon ahead of J.K. Dobbins. Love. Even with the matchup. Would you play Jeremiah love or Aaron Jones asking for Aaron Jones? Aaron Jones is a great, but you would play Jeremiah love over Ollie Gordon against Cincinnati. I personally would. All right. I'm gonna make that change for my friend over here. I mean, it's all in your hands, Mike. Don't blame me. Justin Jefferson says he plans to play in week five against the saints. Final decision has not been made, but he said he feels great. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's bad news for TJ Hawkinson, who was the big, one of the big waiver pickups this week. I think you can still start him. He is. The matchup is okay. And Kyler has obvious comfortability with him. That being said, don't expect if Jefferson is there for Hawkinson to go out there and get a dozen targets and a hundred yards. That's that's just not in the cards. Yeah. Those targets should go to. It rhymed. It did. Yeah. They should. They should go to Jefferson Steelers head coach. Mike McCarthy said that the worst wide receiver of all time, according to Aaron Rogers, Michael Pittman re-injured his foot and is now expected to miss multiple weeks. Would you think that was like a misery Aaron Rogers in the night? I don't want a hammer. I think he, yeah, he stepped on his foot. He's got plantar, man. He's been trying to gut it out. It's just one of those. Like if you don't play, you're soft. If you go out there and you have a bum foot, you're like that guy. Yeah. No, it's an impossible situation for him. It's an impossible situation for Pittman, but Roman Wilson, the Metcalf targets to continue. Roman Wilson is a fascinating stash. He's been playing very well. I know he's not getting like the peripherals aren't. It's like 30% snaps or something. Yeah. They aren't outrageously great, but maybe with, if Pittman is for sure out of the way, Roman, Jeremy Bernard, the matchup for the Steelers and Aaron Rogers this week is not just dominating Metcalf performances coming up. Just we all know. It's hard. It's hard. We all know what the target share will be. Dominance. He looks, what about the catch? Can I tell you? He looks too big for his pads. He really does. He looks like, uh, like if a kid tried to dress up as a football player, because I mean, he's just gigantic. I always look at him. I'm like, you, you are a, he is a weird man in that side. He should dominate. He should come back. I should dominate. He should. That is true. All right. We got starts. Starts of the week brought to you by Apple card. All right. The, uh, starts of the week for week five, starting at quarterback, Jason, we'll let you lead the way. I'm going to stay in the flames. Jared golf has been on fire. He's in Arizona. It's a massive over under through the first month of the season. Golf is second passing yards tied for second passing touchdowns, third and completions. Arizona's defense doesn't exist. Um, so, so yeah, I mean, if, if you have been playing Jared golf, congratulations, continue to do so with confidence. Quarterback five on the year. Mike, could he have a quarterback? It's my streamer from streamer to starter, uh, start of the week. And you picked him up everywhere and it pisses me off because I needed him in a couple of places. And you just, you for Glenn, Mike believes in the start of the week. You literally every single league we're in, pick them up. Look, this is what I'm giving the advice. I'm not just talking about it. I'm living it. So if this fails, Fookland, I fail. with you uh but it really should not although the entire process here it's jacoby brissett in that game jay you laid it all out and i did on the the stream of the week as well but the highlights detroit allowing over 300 passing yards per game the guys who put up top five finishes uh shuck daddy josh allen geno smith bryce young i feel confident enough in jacoby this week i like both your starts more than mine but if you got my homes bryce young somebody on by you need a spot start you don't like herbert this one's wild because yes it should work bo nicks bo nicks against the chargers they're three and a half point road favorites chargers defense right now what messes up bo nicks the most pressure does um 24th and pressure rate 24th and explosive pass rate allowed 25th and yards per attempt not a real running game to like you know we forget the 10 targets to the running through the air with rj harvey that benefits a player like bonet sure so i i think bonet sean payton taking over play yes i think the most recent report is that he would be more heavily involved in play calling duties according to ian rapaport the way that i will remain collaborative yeah with davis webb continuing to be a major voice in the game day and during the week here's what i genuinely believe is the case i believe sean payton is going to fully take over play calling duty this week and because the next following week is a short week he's gonna say hey davis i'm not taking it all over you do next week you can prepare i'll do this week next week is the seahawks and so it's good he's just putting davis webb out there to die like oh i gotta take it back again you didn't do good against the seahawks does sean payton make davis webb call him coach for sure or or mr payton yeah the same way that yes chef you ever heard sean payton talk before yeah oh i have that's why i'm asking the question not a dude who gives up power very easily like yeah hey coach but so i've sean i have jalen hurts tyler shuck and bo nicks in my dynasty oh andy are you telling me as the start of the week you would shuck is against minnesota right yes yeah and he's against suck i mean it's suck that's the jacksonville matchup no i would play bonus that's who i have in my lineup right now so you have him in dynasty yeah no uh running back starts of the week jason i've got uh in that jalen hurts uh game base shell tootin he's averaging 17 opportunities a game i know the eagles defense is is good they look awesome you know they're scary on paper but they were destroyed by kyron williams last year they are tied for second year last week i pulled an andy there i've done that before i'm tied for second most rushing touchdowns allowed so far this season they're 28th and yards after contact uh per attempt so i i think tootin is fine here i wouldn't be scared off of the matchup he's getting enough opportunities and you just love the jags offense and look the tootin breakout like we're just we're on the verge he's played so well like eye test fantastic advanced metrics fantastic total fantasy points just lacking but he feels like we're just we're there man bad like last week 10 fantasy points you're you're not excited right it's like that's not killing you that's not killing you while he's not breaking out he's been absolutely fine so would you trade for him yes yes all right mike who's your running back it's gross but i i'm waving the white flag here of the denver broncos backfield rj harvey uh 17 opportunities this past week and which it it was a uh we know that that that matchup we're getting a lot of targets to the running back position but 10 targets target is worth so much more the disgusting nature of the broncos offense because bo nix is throwing it down just checking it down real short and i don't know why boring points yeah they're boring points but i'm i'm just going to accept them from rj harvey against the chargers this week all right my running back start of the week it's an and or situation or and or both yeah no i that's you know swift and monung guy just monung guy just swift uh they're both swimming on guy here's the thing they're getting to play the green bay packers miffed and the bears identity has been to run the football without caleb williams 30 carries for kyle monunga last week he hurt his thumb swift coming off the hamstring both guys didn't practice history there was a point this week where jason and i just had he had swift i had monunga starts of the week with the practice reports were like hey let's just go bears running back bears running back this week i mean i think monunga is the better pure runner i versatility last week was dominant for menungai um on the year 5.4 and 4.5 a carry yeah that's like the uh that's that's insane so great rush success rate but menungai's on fire if they're both active and i had to choose one i would choose menungai this week i'm less worried about a thumb than a hamstring taking you off the field swift he fumbled right yeah he fumbled but he had 35 percent of snaps like that was his total for the game so and that happened in the third quarter i i imagine that the limitations because we thought swift could miss the game are there as well yeah i i'm fine starting either one both and or at wide receiver michael wilson we you know to pair with jacoby brissett over there with mike you want pieces in this detroit game 54 and a half point over under lion's secondary is bad and the important thing is michael wilson is what we saw at the end of last year with parker washington and michael wilson is like is this real well they looked great they passed the eye test and they had great runs of fantasy success but coming into this season will it stick around the answer is yes the answer is they're the best wide receiver on their team 30 targets the last two weeks you got to keep starting michael wilson they through the first two weeks they tried not to right like the arizona cardinals like we're gonna try and be more balanced we'll spread it out just seven targets in week one seven targets of week two and then what 30 over the past two weeks yeah and if you heard you know the floor came out yesterday and talked extensively about how impressed he is with michael wilson and how much better he has gotten like well that's for sure but i think one of the things that's been said before is hey he's always going to be the second target to trey mcbride yep hasn't been the case so far this year like mcbride's had a couple of like medium weeks and the targets have gone michael wilson's way so there is a kind of like dominator factor taking place in arizona where when you throw the ball to michael wilson it is a high probability play compared to going you know certainly to marvin harrison or kindred born so i i love it i think he is ascending and i think the matchup is just another way to cement himself mike who do you got i'm going davante adams against the buffalo bills we had a down week puka's back yada yada yada i still believe in davante adams i mean like weirdness he's yet to see a target inside the tent davante adams last year's goal line wide receiver that's very bizarre and then the matchup the buffalo bills the the terrifying buffalo bills their defense is completely in shambles 29th and explosive play rate allowed we love that and 31st is scheduled adjusted to the position so i have no i have no concerns that like oh no puka's back we're we got to take the back seat no davante adams still a great play dropped the touchdown last week he catches that ball you don't have any perception of a down week i'm going pickens light that wide receiver started the week jamo i'm taking jameson this week against arizona you have to live with the ups and downs of jameson williams i thought there was a concerted effort last week to get him more involved caught a big play down the field had some big first downs um we saw this last year i mean he was at eight fancy points per game similar reception or sorry receiving yards per game before he took off last season where do you want to take off how about arizona dead last and schedule adjusted fancy points to wide receiver none of us are going to sit here and say hey play almon raw he's an auto start every week but jamo this week against arizona who cannot defend the wide receiver position you know we lost will johnson already on the year and doesn't have a chance to win the game so we're going to have to wait and see what happens the depth of secondary to control jamo i think it's a good start yeah tied in i'm going with colston loveland oh baby the oh the current you know bust pick that uh was not helpful for the first month of the season but last week started heating up had as many targets in that game as he had the entire season his target share 10 12 29 most importantly it was with tyler bajan uh so this is you know i i expect him to be really involved in this game you you look at last year packers 15 targets he was eight for 137 it's a it's it's a matchup that they know how to exploit and at some point you've got to play the more talented player the other thing that i really like is he i can't believe it didn't happen in week one but he started playing more and more of the single tight end snaps over cole commit which should have happened but we're seeing that happy barely leaves the field right now so i i'm i'm fine starting loveland he's off the bench back into the lineup mike i'm going with isaiah of the new york giants against washington we had to hold our breath for two weeks after what looked like he was going to be the breakout late round tight end him and dalton kincaid jackson dart goes down jamis comes in it's a disaster for two weeks in a row well last week shows that maybe jamis is still jamis that yeah the mistakes will be there but the big plays the good stuff the fantasy gold will be there uh he in fact uh through the first month leads all tight ends in target like this is he is absolutely being utilized take the the first two jamis games i'm setting them to the side at least for now Now, he also, talking not likely, he leads the Giants in first downs and red zone targets, plus the matchup against Washington is delicious for the position. And, I mean, is there going to be any lag? They had to come back from overseas. I like them. All right, I'm going back-to-back Lions on mine. I am taking Sam Laporta against Arizona. Did you know TJ Hawkinson had 13 targets last week? I did. Did you know Laporta had 13 targets last week? I did not realize. 13 targets last week. This is a team whose defense is just not getting it done. Arizona should be able to put up points. And when you are moving down the field, you're going to have Sam Laporta wide open, tied with McBride, most red zone targets among tight ends. Most routes run among all tight ends in the NFL. Currently the tight end four, number one in end zone targets. I mean, Arizona, they can't defend wide receivers, right? They're dead last. Oh, wait, they're 29th against tight ends. So, really, bottom of the barrel secondary play. So, linebackers can't keep up with Laporta. He's played outstanding this year, so I'm going to make him start of the week. That was Starts of the Week brought to you by Apple Card. Apply on the Wallet app on your iPhone today. Subject to credit approval. Apple Card issued by Goldman Sachs Bank, USA, Salt Lake City branch. Terms and more at applecard.com. We'll take a break. We'll jump into the forecast. By the way, if you would like, either of you guys want to peruse the waiver wire in our chopped league or guillotine league you guys know i'm in a desperate situation this week i want you to go discover how desperate this man over here is to survive a week where jamar chase and ken walker's on by and cam scataboo is banged up which we should have mentioned uh and i'll mention right now but i added a little player that i have to play this week how desperate how desperate baby whose hands am i in to survive a chop league where i have a bunch of injuries and and bye weeks marvin harrison jr see you later guys wow by the way we should have mentioned it i don't know why i wasn't in the news but yesterday cam scataboo played in a non-contact jersey right so uh one of the things you can do there is naji harris is available in most leagues everywhere if you want to kind of ensure that start if you have scataboo that's what i would do let's go into the forecast fantasy forecast presented by prize pigs yeah according to the falcon he dropped marvin harrison as a landmine yeah well here's the problem the wide receivers i could play over him right now um jamar chase okay okay i'll play jamar chase yeah i would suffer he might not play okay dj moore how are we doing if he plays i would play him over him okay how about chris bell oh wait he showed up as questionable on the injury report yesterday would you play harris or marvin harrison that's the decision i actually have that's my actual start decision don't hate trey i know this week i know i know it'll be the difference in being alive and dead but there you go we have another london matchup are we doing this we're doing this again well yeah i think from like i know what is it here on out we're gonna get a good game here philly two and two taking on the jacksonville jaguars three and one vegas line jacks minus seven over under 41.5 that is the second lowest implied point total for philadelphia so philadelphia this week alone saquon got hurt tank bigsby to ir davante smith could miss multiple weeks i doubt he plays and travels we'll see you lost lane johnson to retirement and you traded cam jurgens and you're going to move forward with a different center and darius cooper's getting picked up in leagues cool man so cool cool first round pick on a wide receiver they did oh they should use him and throw him the ball because he's open all the time are is jalen hurts a startable fantasy asset yes or no no not in a single quarterback especially not this the jags are for real on the defensive side dude the fact that we can be listing all those things off we're like you got to get weapons like you should have taken a wide receiver you did and they what about it what about a stud pass catching tight end and they are not like eli stowers well swing and a miss sometimes that does happen it was high draft capital mckay lemon is far more like that is malpractice what are you doing you need he's out there with davante smith gone you need to just tear it all up build it back up and say how do we feature mckay lemon yeah the weird thing is the routes like i you know i've watched a ton of his film and he is out there he has used an every single way he has gimmies he's got middle of the field he's got intermediate he goes deep sometimes jalen hurts just does not look his way he just i don't know what mckay said to jalen hurts uh but it's personal he's got a problem with the i think it will i do think it will change i i do i think this week he's returning to practice i believe jalen hurts prize picks projection is 193.5 passing in the first half of the season jalen hurts is a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy that is his lowest of 2026 he is average 176 a game he's not getting enough he's not scoring enough um if the offense is not near a tush push zone you're not getting any of that and so you know if you have to make a decision jason you could chase darius cooper and his touchdowns he's had three of them you can chase don tavian wicks and his uh sort of like hit and miss nature peripherals i mean he's actually out there running getting targets but i i watched him run around one time last week and i was like oh my god jason hurts is a good guy he's a good guy he's a good guy i was like i don't know about that you got to watch more than because he's got plenty of great runs and then mckay lemon yeah i think if i had to start them the order i would go is wicks because he's getting the deep uh shots so the the the chance that one play hits your week and then i would go lemon for talent and routes and then i would go cooper cooper had 28 percent of the targets last week i'm kind of in on the cooper like you're like hey maybe you'll get a touchdown i think which is crazy stupid crazy trevor lawrence on the other side going up hold on the running backs like are you playing will ship oh i'm so sorry yeah like that's really the biggest conversation i believe damian pierce is playing for me in a league this week all right i'm not proud of it i said it out loud but i'm not proud of it i have no other option no other option yeah i mean if you listen to what nick sirianni talked about he's like we have a starting nfl running back that we've hidden on the practice report i didn't want to talk him up but i'm not proud of it because i didn't want people to take him off the practice report but we've got a practice practice squad like i i you know he's like talking about him like we have a starting yeah yeah mr sirianni they all knew all the teams are aware you think these billion dollar franchises they were so aware that you didn't have them on your active roster as well like he's such a stud you think this is like uh you know you were talking about this with uh the players on another team yesterday you get asked about a player what are you going to say about a player yeah i mean he wasn't better than shipley he wasn't better than than tank bigsby that is hilarious i mean the truth is though they will not just give shipley every carry so that's the another front office as soon as like damian pierce gets called up and they're just what they had damian pierce this whole time i am committing if only they had talked about him we would have known i'm committing an entire season to take away the the number one pick for um matt from the falcon and from papa josh in our dino in our dynasty league and uh you guys got to be worried darius cooper and uh damian pierce coming your way this week so um but in turn i would play shipley over pierce i i would just hope you get some pass catching would you play shipley over someone like jk dobbins no not against jacksonville jacksonville seventh against running back so it'll be split up they're going to be in a position where the running game is not how they're how the philadelphia eagles are going to get back into the game uh i it's close to me on that one i think shipley we'll get some opportunities in the passing game but i kind of i think i lean with mike i mean 48 of snaps last week for shipley led to one target no catches six for 23 uh it might be nasty trevor lawrence bayshall tootin jason started the week parker washington only three targets last week one for seven yeah uh jk dobbins is going to be in a position where he's going to be in a position that no that's not true is it how many targets did he have last week i feel like that was three targets yeah no oh one catch for seven yes he was he was a disaster it's all right it would look brenton strange went crazy last week it happens he also had a uh touchdown like drop like he he was there was there was a play where if that play connects you're fine and you're still happy with parker washington last week it's the bangles tight ends destroy the bangles and jacksonville adjusted yeah uh we're going to have to wait and see what happens next week but we have outside of parker washington what are you doing with jacoby myers brian thomas jr britain strange strange was really good last week i don't think i'm looking to start any of them i mean anyone can have a game obviously brian thomas jr caught the touchdown last week but i i'm kind of parker washington confident and everyone else i'm looking elsewhere chicago's three and one taking on the green bay packers we already kind of talked a little bit about this game talking about oh my goodness talking about the uh situation running back from chicago but the vegas line here chicago minus one and a half on the road so you are road favorites with a backup quarterback Tyson Bajans it's been such I mean I don't we are it's a good thing that Jeremy is not here it's not good for Green Bay but they are the oh that's embarrassing they're the worst two and two team out there this is the first time that Chicago's been a favorite in Lambeau in 20 years and they've got a backup quarterback so some of it's been Johnson and like credit and some of it is the Packers and like I mean a lot of it is the Packers watching them is well do you believe they're two and two if you have them an unguided swift do you see a world where the Bears can't just ball possessed like they did last year or last week oh my gosh you guys have a sickness it's something weird has happened in the last 48 hours I don't know why I don't I just don't see them if you adjust for the schedule played currently the Packers are dead last against running backs giving up 8.8 fantasy points more than expected so yeah this is gonna be a run down your throat type of game um yeah yeah that's that's just it's hard to see that stopping now offensively it's it's you know Watson and Golden are in your lineup for Green Bay right what do you do with the and so is Kraft but what do you do with the wide receiver room for the Bears it's really hard I mean some of this just feels like you're you're chasing the previous week I want to say Rome Rome is definitely out there for the most snaps and single wide receiver sets he's out there he's getting the targets we saw it last week you follow that up with you know hey it's finally the same quarterback in back-to-back weeks maybe we have something we can go off of however you know Ben Johnson is the type of guy where it's like every week is going to be a new game plan he'll put both quarterbacks in the same game plan he'll put both quarterbacks in the same game plan he'll put both quarterbacks on the field to start the game just because he's oh did so uh on that note it officially because of rules the start I mean it did go to Case Keenum so in the record books Case Keenum got the victory as the starter not not Tyson okay you outsmarted yourself on that one Ben Johnson as of right now uh probably if you're going off of the prize picks projections Burden would be the favorite oh really but it's not great it's 44 and a half yards for Burden Rome's at 38 and a half did you see the stats on Kalief Raymond he went about 50 percent rostered last week and ended up with six total yards as predicted on this show we all knew it was gonna happen I mean we we've been there long enough to know what Kalief Raymond is so yeah I mean Jordan Love has not hit 20 fantasy points yet this year is that true brother crazy he hasn't been that bad I thought week one there was a whole 19.5 13.8 18.5 13.1 just under in week one with 387 and two so would you play Love or Drake May against Vegas I mean when you say Love is in Lambeau you feel like you should be able to start him yeah you I have I have Love higher in my projections as of right now but I'd play Bo Nix my start of the week over oh wait no I apologize Drake May is one spot ahead of Jordan Love yeah but where are they in your weekly rankings eight and nine okay which that that's not right now it just says because that's got like Jaden Daniels behind the two of them which when we get like systems go we do have systems go well I yeah it's Thursday I people lie in the NFL so it's just when you're like really confident that's going to happen I imagine Jaden will move up oh that's a tough call I would like both the the over under is better for Drake the implied total looks about the same for both I would probably I think I'd play Jordan Love do you guys have permission from your doctor to talk about the running game for the Packers is that sure is that okay with blood pressure yeah gosh cholesterol and things like that not mine my blood work is is actually pretty good but I want it to stay that way I mean do you mess around here so the Chris Brooks is not practicing there is a path that's called Chris Brooks is out so Marshawn Lloyd gets another five plus targets that's the path I mean but that doesn't matter I mean Marshawn Lloyd is just talk to your friend Andy over here just said you're starting Damian Pierce really crappy it does matter it's gross I mean last week RB RB 34 last week for Marshawn Lloyd wait that's the positive spin well I'm saying like it's like not in the top 30 people are playing more than 24 running backs uh he had five targets last week yeah um he did not score eight fantasy points he did not score eight fantasy points he also percent of runs have been stopped at the line of scrimmage for Green Bay the fumbling issue for both Caleb Johnson and Marshawn Lloyd um was talked about and it's just like they will be benched if either of them fumble the ball they will not touch the ball again like genuinely they will be out for the game so then who's after they both fumble then what happens they just start zero yeah zero they just throw it every every single time all right Houston 0-4 Tennessee is 0-4 oh boy somebody has to win probably uh two 0-4 AFC South teams we had news of D'Amico Ryans is taking back play calling duties on the defensive side of the football which the defense has been the most surprisingly bad part of this team their 25th in fantasy points allowed to quarterback 32nd to wide receivers dead last I mean this was a team that no one could throw on last year no they did they've been able to now Tennessee is a team that we've never seen throw the ball well really but they're gonna get smushed I don't I Kyle look this up this has to be like the only time that an 0-4 Andy's almost upset of the week number one it's smushed is your new word of the week yeah because you must have said on the Sunday morning when we were watching games oh man that guy got smushed well to be fair more times than I can to be fair this was a smushed when I was watching people get tackled it was more of a smushed yeah that's true yeah there's a difference more home seven and a half point dogs for the Titans that that's what I was curious about is is there a time where an 0-4 team has been over a touchdown favorite before because that's wild over under 38 and a half there is not a lot of fantasy value to be had in this one you know you're gonna play Nico Collins because he's in that stud tier we had long debates about Montgomery and Marks I don't want to play either one of them really Marshawn Lloyd or I play Lloyd okay if Chris Brooks is out yeah just for pass catching rubber right yeah no I mean um you know Tony Pollard's not practicing on Wednesday with the foot they seem to be resting him periodically I think the biggest actual question mark in this game from a start sit perspective is just Carnell Tate you know 12 targets 9 for 145 you don't want to you know that's that's a great line he should be started he fumbled and needs to hold the ball closer to his chest yeah the way he runs I mean he I think he fumbled twice lost one of them and looked like he was gonna fumble every time um hopefully that was brought up two fumbles yeah hopefully that was brought up in the film room but yeah I mean this is a player who he got nine targets two weeks ago I'd play him over Marv yes yeah I play him over Cooper there's Cooper obviously D'Amico Ryan's taking over play call maybe they completely fix it but this has been a team that has given up a lot of points to wide receivers Carnell Tate has you know 21 targets in the last two weeks and is awesome we don't play him over a valet yeah this week against the Vikings I would too I I don't think Carnell Tate's a bad start no no I I think it's Nico and Carnell Tate and then the rest of it you're trying to avoid yeah we needed to see it first with Carnell Tate I like all the people if you have nine for 145 on your bench that sucks but you needed to but I had to see at least something so the the targets plus that the the Texans defense to the wide receiver position at least thus far they're giving up an extra nine points over expectation so that's 30th against the position yeah you're gonna you're gonna hold your breath but I'd put him out there all right we'll take a break and jump into some more matchups we've got another 0-4 team about to try to get off the schneid you there's a skeeter in here you gotta oh no that's a mosquito yeah so you flicked the mosquito at me why would you not smoosh it I'm trying to know you flicked yeah well you could kill it with a flick no you can't oh I kill like you said I tried to smush no you don't you don't flick them all the time and kill them I do too that's a lie with flies with flies that's the number one way with flies I can't slap a fly you said it was a mosquito oh I can only slap a fly what yeah I can never slap a fly you must have a you can flick a fly oh I can flick a fly I've seen it but what about the skeeter you flicked at me why do you want me to eat me I hope it is not me when it's on you I don't think you killed that first of all you missed I did I know for a fact I know I saw second of all I'm not sure it was a mosquito oh I know it was okay yeah that's why you didn't smash it oh josh you are josh is thinking you can't flick the fly yes you can oh you you you approach very slowly you have fast flies all the time you're locked and loaded fly fastly fly absolutely yes Papa Josh doesn't believe you it's true yeah yeah I could do the monkey bars no okay can't Jay you can't do that I was backing you man yeah I was supporting you and then you're like this thing that everyone knows is not true Mike has seen me flick a fly yes uh well i can't tell uh cincinnati bangles two and two miami's oh and four cincinnati minus six and a half on the road over under 42 and a half it's a nice implied point total of just under 25 for the bangles miami is leading the way every week on lowest implied point totals they have one passing touchdown in four weeks so yeah again i already apologized last week nothing is working and now hn's gone it's been really really bad hn's gone the running game got way better somehow yeah i mean it was really it was really good for ollie gordon last it was nine for 101 he is the one that looks like a three down back uh but the pass catching it was like two targets intentionally to start the game never got another one you know jaylen wright don't worry about it and the wide receiver room you have injured rookies caleb douglas won't play chris bell is banged up with a knee you got malik washington who is he's safe ppr shakir for seven eight points he is safe for that and um so i look ollie gordon against cincinnati cincinnati's defense is much much uh much improved and musty very musty as well um but they're 11th against running backs i think ollie gordon if he was in your lineup last week you're probably playing him again it's it's funny i don't really see a reason to bench him it's funny how we look at cincinnati's defense they are playing so much better than they were last year that i just look at them as like elite oh no it's cincinnati watch out they're not the defense target but they're they're really just now like an average nfl defense they can they can present problems but they're not some complete shutdown defense i think ollie gordon is he should earn more work what he has done the last two weeks on the field if they come out and they do this 50 50 split again i think it's silly yeah we got a hot one here ollie gordon or braylon allen for the new york jets which braylon allen got it wasn't we didn't really get fantasy points because the jets ran about two plays but braylon allen was a full workhorse in that game i would go ollie i think i would go ollie as well but it's not like the jets aren't trying to have few they're playing so slow i i just am fearful if you're not hampton against the broncos or ollie gordon i'm sorry jason that's disgusting i knew it was i'm gonna stick oh gosh i will i will go hampton yeah uh we're waiting on news from jamar chase going through concussion protocol t higgins did not practice with a groin injury my policy on the bangles this week i had some people text me asking me the same thing i'm playing dante myers no matter what if both those guys are really if both of them if both are out he is a must start to me because i don't think so personally i don't think he's must start he is talented he's explosive i don't think he's 10 targets because you you're going to first of all you the tight end does very well against the dolphins the dolphins don't do enough to where you continue past so you you basically in most of these games it feels like you get a quarter and a half maybe a whole half that you're really throwing the ball i mean how do they if you don't have chase and higgins you've got to do something to take the lead i have enough confidence in dante myers who once chase came out got nine targets last week i get what you're saying yeah the dolphins have to get ahead somehow and i think myers will play a big role yeah but if gaseki gets a touchdown or or chase brown gets a touchdown then the wide receiver core is honestly i think you might be being bailed out of the game i think you might be being bailed out of the game i think you might be being bailed out of the game i think you might be being bailed out here because like t higgins obviously you're going to start in all games it's probably not going to like if he was active it's probably not great right now the dolphins adjusted fantasy points they are dead last like they're the worst matchup for wide receivers not because they shut people down because you don't need them no you might be right there you're making me second guess the level of conviction i do think if they're both out you can play him but maybe there's more risk than i am i originally thought yeah it's more of a matchup thing to me dante myers is very explosive and an exciting guy to plug in a lineup if those other two guys are gone and i'm certainly not saying he can't do something really special and great you can start him but i just don't i'm worried they're not going to need wide receivers in this game because the dolphins are not good so speaking of that you have mike gaseki in seven games without t higgins since 2024 averages 49 receiving yards per game it's a it's a decent matchup mike gaseki has always or almost always come through when t is out are you throwing him in yeah i i think so i think gaseki deserves a a start i mean i wouldn't throw him in over really good options but if you're talking about the the tier of like okay we don't know what we have in kenyon sadiq yeah i'd throw i i would throw gaseki in over him do you guys know the most points miami scored in any single game this year uh was the last week against minnesota 20 no they uh they only scored 10 other wait what am i thinking of am i wrong about that i thought i thought the vikings barely won it's 10 to 15 oh i added i gave them both an extra 10 how about the week before against kansas city how many points do they score uh three 10 10 okay what about san francisco 10 10 no it's 13 no come on about the raiders 13 so they have not surpassed 13 so to jason's point yeah they stink that you know your first point was that hey this this bangles defense isn't actually special it's just so maybe at home they can find a way to 14 points but yeah they're i mean they haven't implied points the middle of the pack oh maybe they could find a way to 14 points for the first time this season no and you're like you're not doing it but we gotta call it or i'm gonna call it out just because it's fun the bangles which over and over they get killed by the tight end position greg dulcich if you are a very desperate person maybe just more like a dfs situation but it's like he should get he should get five or more targets las vegas the raiders three and one my raiders taking on the two and two new england patriots in new england their favorite three and a half points over under 45 and a half um this is this is like one of the things that happened this offseason with the raiders that we were in love with was the acquisition of tyler linderball dude it it's so easy fix your offensive line and everything looks great kurt cousins is not fleet of foot and yet is pressured the second least among any quarterback in football when you let a veteran quarterback stand back there and pick you apart this is why he's leading the league in touchdown passes i mean it hasn't worked in the running game in terms of efficiency but it's worked in my opinion you know jinty has been viable every single week the efficiency the big plays maybe that's mike washington's game but jinty's been the running back 5 26 20 and 15 he's rbd 10 on the year and he's never had fewer than 15 rush attempts in a game eight targets for jinty last week eight he's on pace right now for 102 targets so he is a do everything back that frees up you know your offensive line to play action and use these tight ends in michael mayer and brock bowers and ian thomas it's just been an impressive offensive product put out there by kubiak which is what we hoped for but we said do you have the personnel to do it right and i don't even know if the answer to that is really yes on offense and yet he's still doing it no they're getting it all done even without jack besh uh available incredible work incredible i mean you thought it couldn't be done when he went down i was like it's over on the dynasty show this week we actually had a really fun kind of informative segment where we were drafting nfl play callers current active nfl play callers and kubiak i believe he was fourth oh like we were very very bullish on his designs his systems uh and i think it's a really good thing that he's been able to obviously last year with the seahawks but it goes back many years and what he's getting out of this offense right now is fantastic and i love the consolidation i mean the fact that you know you want to start brock bowers and you're not afraid genti even if he's inefficient you're gonna start him and then you can be done i will say just real quick jalen nailer got a concussion last week trey tucker did have eight targets and there is not bad and on wednesday tucker dante myers trey tucker was hold on part of the wednesday's practice report uh three patriots cornerbacks were absent including christian gonzalez oh fantastic so trey tucker's very interesting yeah if you make sure you're following the news i i think tucker's interesting regardless but if gonzalez especially is out then all right you think new england handles this game or no i they're at home their favorite drake may got his mojo back romeo dobbs had a couple touchdowns you're the raiders guy what do you think what are your how do your raiders fare here in new england i i feel like i think new england's gonna win the game yeah i want to see before drake did new england start last year with a loss to the raiders they did that was the raiders only win yeah i i don't know i don't i don't have the conviction this week that that new england's gonna lose this game i like what i saw on defense last week maybe if those corners are out you got a problem but i don't think they're all gonna be out and and you know i feel like this is a real pick'em game so like if i'm picking the line i'm gonna be out and i'm gonna be out and i'm gonna be because new england is three and a half i'll be on the raiders side i'll take the field goal but uh i i expect it to be pretty pretty close that being said that those close games are usually really good for fantasy you know as as the game goes into the fourth quarter and you know that they took the lead now we've got to get the lead and you get a lot of passing volume that's the opportunity we have here yeah the overrunner is not terrible what about the running back situation for new england remandre was limited on wednesday not a full out according to the report i have it's been you know one hit and a lot of miss but if he's alone then you play him then you got to go with if he gets all the volume he will get two explosive plays i mean you saw last year when when remandre was injured and they brought in jamal williams for a workout that's not i mean it could just be coincidence on timing but uh the remandre stevenson knee injury could could rule him out this week the last two weeks uh he hasn't had the big play eight for 23 14 for 42 on the ground um we'll see what happens this week if remandre is limited would you play if remandre is active are you benching trevo are you flexing it i play him over damian pierce yes okay i'll just know that that shouldn't really be our benchmark i'm just saying that if you've seen my dynasty team you understand my lineup there's a bar are you playing mike washington junior or damian pierce mike because that's the actual i probably play washington oh gosh uh one of those guys can house it from 50 yeah the thing that i the thing that i love like so last year there were three games that remandre missed and in those games you had a game with five targets on a game with six targets for trevion henderson i don't know why they don't throw him the ball as it is currently enough i mean they they really use remandre as they're passing back far more but that's what excites me about the opportunities that henderson would receive if remandre's gone matt collins left the game with a non-contact injury this past week calf calf pay attention to it romeo dobbs maybe we're starting to figure things out with drake may nine targets he gets deep shots he did score twice the matchup against the raiders they like they've been holding wide receivers under their expectations expectation so i don't love that but if matt collins is out romeo dobbs is out pretty much a top 24 must play agreed the minnesota vikings in their miraculous 4-0 start despite not scoring touchdowns in two other four games take on the new orleans saints who are one and three the games in new orleans minnesota favored by one and a half the overrunners just 42 and a half so this one's tough because they're there's just a lot of players that you've been very confident in yeah you know tyler shuck obviously devon vele has been a worthy play juwan johnson's the tight end three on the year and obviously olave who he didn't practice on wednesday which might alarm you because he left early on monday night but you got to remember it's a short week for them a rest day is what they're they've come out and vehemently said this is not about the knee because they knew those questions would be there they said it's a rest day but if there's another non-knee rest day on thursday exactly i will be worried about the knee exactly olave is going to be started no matter what if he's active he's he's too good the matchup sucks everything could go bad you're going to be worried about the knee exactly olave is going to be started no matter what if but the other guys shuck camara vele juwan johnson i i think that there are probable pivots in most situations for those guys the vikings defense has just been too doggone good they're number one against quarterbacks number one against running backs number six against tight ends they're just they're awesome there's a reason why minnesota's four and what's crazy here is the saints because of the defense the saints who have looked really good this year like they're they're passing my boat race at home on primetime this last week um yeah they failed the eye test on that one it feels like they're about to be one and four yes they will be yeah and and it's you know juwan johnson is he a start this week do you stay in the flames minnesota's so good against the tight end position pretty much i don't know he is to me like he's okay colson loveland i would play over him um i'd play him over sadiq would you what about fanon no i would play fanon yeah i i would try to play i would play isaiah likely and then after those guys that's basically where i go juwan johnson he's my 12th we do have uh the precedent of last week yeah even if they're down there may be opportunities there i wouldn't touch a running back on new orleans with a thousand foot pole right now against minnesota and we'll monitor the olave situation shuck i'd be trying to find another option because i agree he could have an okay game but his i don't know i don't know i don't know if he's going to be able to do that ceiling is very capped by minnesota aaron jones has been a top 24 back in all four weeks guys he's just sneakily part of this operation right you you don't have the best quarterback in football you do have a great defense run the ball yeah i mean with jordan mason on ir they really don't have they they don't believe in clayborne to come in as a rookie and and protect the quarterback and do those things aaron jones you know we talk about these older veterans getting off to pretty hot starts to start the season maybe they fade down the stretch it's still early in the season really i think aaron jones is just a fantastic start it was almost my start of the week they're kyler's on the malik willis plan right now one touchdown and three starts so you know he's not an option no and the question i have for you is with jefferson potentially returning how do you view jefferson in this in the grand scheme of rest of season like like kyler i don't think maybe he gets a little bit better as he acclimates and they figure out what he does better you take a big breath and you hope and you pray i mean whatever you thought in draft season is what you know when when we were looking at the back of the first with justin jefferson we were a little bit more hesitant because we knew that it could go poorly with kyler now early in the season it was like okay obviously justin jefferson is still him and when carson wentz was there he was fantastic but with with with kyler i do think you're gonna have a nerfed version of the best wide receiver in football and then playing loveland are you playing joe anson yeah i would play those guys over him just not chasing 13 targets if jefferson's back in there correct and then addison is a full bench yeah that yeah and that being said if jefferson doesn't play this week then hawkinson is a must start yeah i would agree with that and then that jordan addison's a dmp right now with a hamstring so it could be hawk it could be hawk and jefferson there is a third scenario where addison's out yeah so something to kind of keep an eye on if there's consolidation there don't you know you probably i think a lot of people went and spent on hawkinson yes if addison is out uh so coming in this morning tj hawkinson was my start of the week he he was who i was i like the matchup i like what we saw last week um we know how kyler plays but with all the skiers back are you getting a mosquito bit he's trying i'm that must be at least you started at least you started slapping you're not like flicking around like a weirdo he's just really good podcasting the matchup the matchup is uh is very good for hawkinson i just don't want him to be the third target if addison or jefferson are gone he he moves ahead of that that other tier of the jawan johnson you see that uh video that is going around on uh instagram out in arizona with that uh spider coming out of the oh you know i have not yeah i will not i've seen it about you don't want to see it climbing out of the vent you don't want to see it remember you had a spider in your car and you had to pull over in the middle of the car and you had to pull over and you had to pull over and you had to pull over okay you took your headphones off cleveland three and one new york one and three even i'm not a no i have no problem with spiders even that video was like that was a bad video yeah um can you call triple can you call triple a for that that was like the one years ago you gotta call jeremy it crawled out of that car huh it was like the one years ago where it the spider just crawls out of this girl's mouth oh yeah just yeah uh don't click that link in slack cleveland three and one new york one and three you took your headphones off cleveland three and one new york one and three the jets the vegas line here jets minus one and a half over under 39 and a half uh in a battle of slow um these are this is you you want to take the frank reich led offense of the jets that's 29th in pace of play and combine it with todd monken's 25th in pace of play this game will be this game might be over before you know it seriously i mean the clock it will be a full running clock yeah the good clock will never stop so under 39 and a half what what are your choices here denzel boston been so impressive garrett wilson he's an auto start for your team is boston entering that category of auto start with the amount of shots they take to him he's he's entering it i watched uh all of his film this last week and and he's doing he's doing a little bit of everything but he's got plays on film uh as a blocker like that this team has to be just doing handstands about their excitement over denzel boston and even though they drafted conceptual on first and he's good it feels like boston is their their wide receiver one i think he should be started like going forward week in and week out he should be he should be in there now the matchup isn't great simply because very similar to the dolphins and then you add in the pace of play you just don't need a lot against them but i mean maybe the browns will yeah the jets have been a run funnel so or i mean a running back funnel so you're like judkins it was a nice the targets the targets really really helped last week i don't know if those will continue i'll probably still play judkins though in this matchup and then braylon allen we saw the good and the bad the opportunities the good the bad was how slow and incapable the offense was well wilson had a tough game last week i'm still taking the the volume 94 of the returning jayden daniels probably still braylon i would go jcm this is a battle of a 60 and 64 year old play caller and um that's some front porch yeah get off my loan um harold fannin keep playing him if you've been playing him yeah i guess and just like live with the slow colts two and two steelers two and two vegas line pittsburgh minus two and a half over under 44 and a half you know this is indianapolis they had to play in europe last week now you got to play a road game in pittsburgh you know that's only happened twice in history where you have a team with that bad of a draw where you go from international to road game uh how the other two teams do they did bad they lost both of the games and the steelers have an extra three days rest they come off thursday night game kind of not matching up that's not that's disgusting mean yeah you get extra time and you get to stay on the road so that got that the thing that's can't be that thing that's funny right now for pittsburgh can't be what it can't be that hard to like get an actual fair schedule there's a lot of teams a lot of moving parts mike yeah i mean i've never tried never sat down and tried to figure it out i'm just do you think they get to the end of it and then they just go like they see a couple problems and they're like well the rest i don't redo this math i guess that's okay have you ever numbered something yeah and then you get to the end of it and then you get to the end of it and putting a list together and then you find out you missed 18 yeah and you're like well what do i do now you're like whatever 17b it is i guess this one that i that would have been 18 is now 38 yeah i it's funny because i don't we haven't liked the pittsburgh offensive like potential and yet they should be okay in this one the turnstile defense of the colts the fact they're at home jaylen warren's been on fire we don't know if rico will even play either way you play warren you don't play rico and then the wide receivers i mean i i still think matt calf is somebody you can keep playing because the targets are the targets are there it's disgusting right but it just kind of is what it is and rogers top 10 quarterback two straight weeks when you add in the matchup when you add in the fact that the you know you don't the colts defense has just been really bad i don't know sauce gardner i know he was coming off of an injury but he's just he has not changed this there's still a defense you target so i think dk metcalf is an okay play this week would you play him over josh downs because downs yes yeah see i would too and and we thought downs would break out last week he was on the field for almost every snap but you know aaron jones or daniel jones doesn't look like no the daniel jones of last year his fantasy points it's not just fantasy points 9 11 7.9 looks like a guy who's coming off of an achilles they i mean it's not even like they won last week and they won because of zach galifianakis absolutely they won an easy blowout victory and it masked remember his real name yeah because you'd love to correct me wouldn't you and i wanted to say the right name but i couldn't remember it either it just masked how bad daniel jones was on a i know it's a his accuracy was awful just missing guys he's looked 56 so you're gonna have to try to run the ball with jonathan taylor as much as you can that's your only path to winning this game i thought kyle was giving me the the pronunciation of a fan calia uh caliac manis but he just spelled galifianakis so yeah josh downs is a really scary start i i kind of like there's nobody to target in the receiving game and then tyler warren it's just wild you'd be like okay well tyler warren's gonna blow up last week i mean 13 21 55 and 41 yards but he did not he did not blow this offense other than johnny taylor this thing is it's kind of stinky does tyler warren feel like he's going to like the oldest 24 year old on the planet yeah he does yeah yeah he's aging like hawkinson did just just rap dog ears because he's too he got too much he's got too much dog i love tyler warren is the opposite of bowers though oh yeah yeah bowers is uh aging as well um uh some updates on the injury report lamar jackson not seen participating again but zay flowers is bad that's good because it was if you missed that zay flowers didn't practice this one was not hamstring it was foot aka new injury yeah stefan diggs hamstring working on the side field don't see mclaren out there tara mclaren may miss another week antonio williams is a sneaky start i think he actually is i actually moved him into one of our uh we got our scotty fish lineup mike we got some bi-week situations i put antonio in there i don't hate it no sign of breeze hall and ad mitchell at practice for the jets as well should be braylon again that was fantasy forecast presented by prize picks make sure to follow our account at the ff ballers in the app to see our best picks every week prize picks run your game tomorrow we have uh well we'll recap this uh the big breakout performance by pickens mike i look give me a stat line stat line for pickens tonight i'm gonna give you for george pickens yeah yeah the other pickens yeah george pickens george pick well i just was trying to think yeah let's go we're gonna go five oh catches okay for 117 in a score okay and how many targets uh the eight yeah probably eight targets i got i got seven targets four for 84 and a touchdown oh so you guys both have them in the end zone yeah do i have to do this now yeah if you want um we'll go uh we'll go five targets we'll go four catches 74 yards no touchdown okay like this i i'm sorry this week the cowboys tonight should put on an absolute show yeah they really really should dac is playing great seed lamb i'm great well we talked about it we just need a little bit they've been much more meticulous of an offense than a big play offense so we need to get a big play from that team uh you can roll your eyes into the back of your head when it ends up being not pickens but turpin tonight or something no if it's anyone who'll end up being turd ferguson that could be yeah stealing the the touchdown so we'll talk about thursday night we got more matchups tomorrow fantasy face off the wheel of shame and we head into week five doing our best to help you win you the foot clan mighty and strong you can check it out at join the foot.com otherwise jason your job at this point is to conquer that mosquito find it it's still around find it flick it move on twist it goodbye pop it thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot.com and follow us on twitter at the ff ballers