Fantasy Football - RB Rankings Countdown: 20-11 + ADP Risers - Podcast for 8/11

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in! I think you saved it a little bit. I think I was a little late to the part. I'm already mentally there. Welcome into the show! Oh, and welcome in! Oh, Tuesday, August 11th, the Fantasy Footballers podcast, back with you. It's supposed to be pumping the people up. I'm not bringing them down. This isn't an ASMR sleepy-type podcast. Well, maybe if somebody said it was football time everyone, so why would we all be energized? Give us a little bump! Oh, man. It's not football time. But it was on the Hall of Fame game, man. Did you see it turned into some pretty darn good football ball? Yeah, but here's the thing. The Hall of Fame game had more viewers than the highest rated NHL game last year, I think. Yeah. Get wrecked hockey. But here's the thing. Had I said, it's football time, and then Carson Beck goes out and lays an absolute stinker. I mean, it's football time. You saw your football, we knew that was coming. Jason and I knew. You don't know your football, Mike. I apologize. I knew that Carson Beck could see all. We did talk about the field vision. But he's. Maybe it makes the no-look. Oh, that was a look. Yeah, that was the steering. He was staring him down. What the DB's don't realize is he had fully tipped exactly where that ball was going to be. Yes. You got to look because he cuts his visor really wide. I know I'm looking at this black shirt crew. The triple black shirt. We wear hats. Triple hats today. Doosers back there. There's one hat too. Oh, there's one hat. There's one hat too. There's one hat too. There's one hat too. There's one hat too. I tried on a hat yesterday, and you guys picked on me. But that's because you picked the hat. You picked the hat. He picked the hat. He's also the only one without a black shirt. Dude, I mean, genuinely, you pick hats like that boy from the sandlot. Like what? Oh, man. What? You know, you don't know. No, I don't. It's the flat dad hat. Yeah, the flat dad hat. The kid is like, you know, Benny comes and he saves him. He's like, dude, don't wear that hat. You can't wear that hat. I don't remember that one. He put a washcloth on his head. I mean, not much. I got to go back. Not much different. I haven't visited the sandlot in probably two decades. Oh, man. Brother. It's bad. Well, that's a big bill. What has happened? That's a huge bill. We have performance climbers on today's show by the way. Barely any news. I'm just going to skip the segment and just give it to you real quick. And then we're going to jump into running back rank. Yes. Yes. There's no news. Nothing to see here. I don't know. Wait. What is that? What is that? That's the liar lying pants. No, no. There's no, the news. You're right. Don't even worry about that news section. Oh, my gosh. What is it? Just hit the button. Oh, you saying the Christian McCavry part? No. What is it? There's no news. There's no news. There's no news, guys. First. Because it is that time of year, we are going to do a UDK for a life giveaway. This is your one chance a year to pick up for life, the UDK for the rest of your natural life. I know we've had debates on bequeathing, like once you pass, can you give your UDK life away to somebody else? I don't know. I think we kind of shut that down before I'm willing to open that up. I'm opening it up, but it has to be, it has to be an in a way, it has to be in a will and some kind of, you know, we're not, we're not going to court here. Yeah, no probate. No, no, never through probate. But if you pick up the UDK or an ultimate foot clan membership before we do our livestream, which will be August 24th, you will be entered to win the UDK for life and a signed Jamar Chase jersey. It is pretty cool. I know obviously everyone wants a UDK forever. That's awesome. If you get the ultimate foot clan membership, we're going to have the, the Megalables coming soon. 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And I'm afraid to ask him how it went because I know he's trying to get on track because he's got, let's just say this, there's a decent chance, 100% that he's going to be the video on. Yeah. Tomorrow. Like last week, people played nine holes with me. Right. Tomorrow. I learned a lot about myself and chemicals found in golf teas. Yeah. Yeah. But my recommendation is just pesticides from bottle. I'm going to start licking the grass in order to end it into this golf curse. No. Yeah. Tomorrow, I will be recorded for everyone to shoot the pesticides 30, 40 yards away for everyone's viewing pleasure, everyone other than myself. And how it went this morning was I shot 60 balls. I would say, 30 of them were horrifically bad. There was one I was able to catch. So that was pretty cool. Like I could hit off the ground and then you caught it. So it was teed up. I had my driver. Oh, this is going to be dude. I hit that tee. Got to be 50 yards. Got to be okay. The ball, however, went straight up and I was able to join get right out of the air like a pro. Did anyone see it? I don't know. There was two old guys near me, but I don't know if they're watching. Any tips? No, thankfully, they can't help. You can't help this. So I think, I think on Wednesday, we are going to have Jason's play nine holes with Jason. You can find that out. That will be the last day of my life. So in half the FF ballers, Instagram.com slash jammy wants to know about the other 30. I had 10 good shots. 20 that were like, they're not even sick and read one out of six. One out of six. One out of five. Isn't it? All right. That's a call question. So what do you got? Yep. One out of five. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, ultimate draft get dot com pick it up. Get the UDK for life. Be in or to win. Well, let's move on. Performance climbers presented by GM C. All right. We have three names, players that have been moving up in average draft position. And we want to talk about those moves, starting with the newly acquired Stefan digs, wide receiver for the commanders, obviously really wasn't being drafted before the signing, moving up. We'll continue to move up. He's fascinating to me, because there's so much opportunity that it is a late addition. Terremick Lauren can't be the entirety of the offense. So right now, you know, he's going in double digit round. So if you're, if you're scooping up, like you're doing your drafts about now, he's a massive massive value. So the question really becomes, I think so. So let's come on off over a thousand, you know, I get it. Let's have a philosophical question about what, what good is because he finished as the wide receiver 16 last year. Obviously, you could just end in the whole debate and say, well, that was really good. And he was drafted way beyond, behind that. But he wasn't good. Like he had a thousand yards. That's awesome. So he wasn't played in fantasy, the vast majority of weeks. Did he have a handful of weeks that were great top 10 weeks, absolutely on your bench or on waivers? He was not. I think he was in more lineups than you're giving credit for. I mean, maybe if I feel like that was happening early in the season, I think people faded out of that and moved on. Like people are starting, Cacheon, booty at random there. I mean, I'm not saying he was never started for a good game, but I do think it was good. I do think that he was nowhere near as valuable as what saying the wide receiver 16 with a thousand yards sounds like. And that was with, I mean, I would imagine we would assume that Drake May throws from more yards than Jayden Daniels last year, sure versus Jayden Daniels this year. So you've got a smaller pie. He was the one last year versus also coming directly off of a torn ACL and puts up 85 for over in over a thousand yards. I mean, we have to poo poo a hundred targets going in the double digit rounds. Sounds kind of well, let's put it this way, though, the, the, there's two sides to it. One, he's a year older. He's the fund digs. He's not in this prime. Eight year healthier. But like Keenan Allen had 122 targets last year. He had 80 catches, so on digs at 85 catches. I think that's a pretty interesting comparison of those two guys and one of them's on a team. By contrast, Keenan Allen finished at 32 with the same numbers. It just, he had fewer yards, a lot fewer yards. Those are the same touchdowns, the same receptions. He had about 300 fewer yards, though. Yeah. 250. You're saying that's the range though for a guy that's a low area target guy likes to fund Diggs. Now, is it 16? Is it 32? Is it 40? I understand it. I think there's opportunity in Washington. I think that's obvious. I think Jaden Daniels, we like him. It raises the ceiling or the floor for Daniels to me, possession guy that can catch the ball. I think this is one of the biggest full PPR situations where Diggs is somewhat valuable there, kind of moderately valuable at half and not valuable at all in the, you know, standard league format. So I'm not trying to poo poo him. I'm just saying we are long, like Keenan Allen had a peak. Now Keenan Allen became a possession guy and I look at Diggs the same way. I guess my question is like for the purpose of this segment, the ADP, he's been rising. Where do you think he lands? Because obviously, yeah, I think that's a, let's say he 8th round 9th round, where do you anticipate that he would, I think 8th 8th is probably a good land spot. So do you spend the pick on a guy that doesn't have a ceiling in the 8th or do you spend a pick on another guy we're talking about? Perfect. Here's a perfect example. Okay. Stribbling. That's great. That's a, that's a good counter because I was going to bring up Alec Pierce and Kai lemon. They're going in the 8th round right now. Oh gosh. Yeah. I would take both of those. Of course. Like there's a ceiling and even though Kai lemon is injured and maybe he doesn't get involved. But Diggs in the 10th. Yeah. Maybe Diggs doesn't make it to the 8th then. I mean, would you take, Mike, let me put you on the spot here. Okay. This, this will be a decision you'll easily be able to make. Pat Bryant with all the glaze going on in the last two days. Right. Oh man. Or Stefan Diggs in the 10th round. I think the, the, the ceiling discussion is very, very fair because it's like Stefan Diggs probably, I think he can get over a thousand yards again. And I think he could be five to seven touchdowns around there. It's, Stefan Diggs is definitely a, a safer bet on a week to week basis for like your second flex play. That's what we're, and we're, we're not talking about the wide receiver two on your team. We're talking about a biweek fill in. We're talking about a, a second flex, just a guy who could go right into your lineup. That will be better in my opinion than like scraping the, the waiver wire, you know, heading into Sunday. I got to find a play. Stefan Diggs is going to be much better there is, there is definitely a place for that where I love those players mid season where I've dealt with injury or I took my swing at the big guys. And now I need someone to plug a second flex is like, Oh, he can go in there and, you know, he'll, he'll have eight or nine targets. That's fine. But when I'm in the draft, I'm just looking at guys that are way, way later. Well, talk about in the ninth or conception on in the 10th or Jayden Higgins in the 11th or Denzel Boston in the 12th, I would rather take a shot on those type of players. But you know, there are Michael Wilson or Stefan Diggs. Wilson. Okay. That makes sense. Dijon Stribbling, wide receiver for the 49ers has been moving up. We're looking at 80 P risers right now on performance climbers. Stribbling was in the 12th and 13th. Now he's in the 11th on, on Yahoo, 33rd pick in the NFL draft. We know what the, the situation is in San Francisco on a regular basis with injuries. But all the, all the reports on Stribbling, all the highlights on Stribbling have been positive, picking up things in a hurry according to Shanahan, Clay Kubiak said he's been able to handle multiple responsibilities early, fairly extensive role early on. We lost Ricky Pier saw we lost Christian Kirk Evans is the oldest drafted player in the top six rounds basically, Debo Samuel, Debo is interesting because they're saying he's getting all of the work like he's splitting right receiver running back room again. It made me kind of forget like last year, Debo was not a part of the taking snaps at running back situation, but, um, but where are you with Stribbling and taking a shot on him? I think he absolutely has to have a shot taken on him. Brock Perty is a very good quarterback. Like he, to me, I just, I put him in the certainly top half quarterback, but probably a tier higher than, than most people put him. That's why I've been kind of into Mike Evans. He's obviously a great red zone weapon, Brock throws touchdowns, but Evans is 33 going on 700 years into his, his soft tissue is just brittle, he's already dealing with the quad issue. I mentioned yesterday he was back to practice. He's working on a side. He's not full practice yet. I wanted to take shots on Ricky Pier saw. So like this offense, they need someone to loss, they lost Joe on Jennings, they lost Ricky Pier saw Mike Evans, they will lose at some point. And so yeah, Stribbling is, he was, he was drafted to be an important part. He's already rolling with the ones and the reports like Grant Cone, I don't know what you think of him. He's, you know, not everyone's favorite 49ers reporter, um, but he's saying he's the best wide receiver at camp full stop. Right. And there's an opportunity there. I mean, the other pass catchers that are trustworthy in San Francisco are all older. Yes. And you know, that includes Kittle, right? Kittle looks really good. Like he should be back out there, but that is not uncommon to start the year strong. That's where Stribbling I think could, I doubt he has a breakout week one through four. But as the year goes on, I mean, we used to see us with vintage Larry Fitzgerald. The first half of the year for Fitz was higher than average, you know, better than expected. Second half slowed down. I would expect similar things from from potentially Kittle and you're saying starts with Mike Evans ends was well, wow, wow, I'm going to cut you off breaking news, Brooks said safe and news. Get out of your Brooks. We're not doing a new segment. Did you hear me? I have a bunch of news to talk about, but he will not be in a segment. I mean, this guy is going to ride you in ADP now, um, Kyla Murray has already been named the starting quarterback this. There was too much good news coming out about Jay Jay McCarty. That's honestly what it seems like. It was like reporters are starting to say, look, the last couple of practices McCarty's been winning. And then he's like, I got this is terrible for Minnesota like the potential negative outcome. It could be great. Sorry. Sorry. Let me, let me completely start over. It's great for Justin Jefferson. It's great for that discussion we had a couple days ago about Jefferson and being and maybe it was yesterday. I don't even know what days are anymore. But the potential outcome in Minnesota is pretty rough because now if Murray fails and then JJ comes in and is just JJ, you're down to zero quarterbacks again. And I, I imagine Murray will be okay, but you feel better about Jefferson now? Uh, moderately moderately moderately the, uh, like we've said, the, the information about the quarterback battle has been very, very difficult to sift through as the, it, the, the, my take on everything is I don't know that I've, you're, you're, it's very rare to see an impartial view of what is going on in Minnesota. I feel like a lot of baggage and I feel like people have already decided they don't like JJ McCarthy. So whenever Kyler does something great, they're going to report on it or there's the, you know, that JJ McCarthy still has his supporters and they're not going to say anything when Kyler Murray does anything because it's, it's been very difficult to navigate, but this had to happen. This is you, you have to, you have to pick one and say, okay, you're at, at this point, you're the, we think you're the best shot. You get all the snaps with the ones now. We can't keep splitting this crap up. It's the season is like three weeks away. Yeah. The whole thing where they were going to take this all the way down to the wire. I'm so happy. They're not in either direction in either direction. You've got to give your team a starting quarterback to practice through the next couple weeks before you start the season. And this is, this is what we thought was going to happen all along. This is why I hated the, this guy won this practice, this guy won that practice because the, the coach knows where he's headed. Kyler had never played in the offense. JJ had, it's not about what you can do during practice. It's about what you can do during the game as a, as a, you know, much more established veteran quarterback. Kyler gets the shot. It's good for Addison. It's good for Jefferson. It's good for the offense overall. I agree. I mean, now the information really matters because I, the, I think that the, I had shared it with you guys. I can't remember. There was a Minnesota beat reporter where it finally felt like, okay, we're getting real news because he came out and basically said, I don't care about who's winning, who's not winning this practice. He's like, they both have not been great, right? That is the, the true key story is both are struggling severely. Kyler against the ones, JJ McCarthy's look good, but then he struggled sometimes against the twos. So you have to make this move as the team, but this will be a follow, follow now is going as much bias in the reports. Yes. Because now it's just directly towards Kyler Murray. How does he actually look? Because after our discussion, you know, yesterday talking Jefferson and Drake London, it's like, man, I, I'm nervous. I'm nervous, and I need training camp to talk me back in. So circling back to struggling, I think he's going to start right away. I think he's very interesting as a, he's a perfect late round target because he doesn't have the same type of, like, I think Colonel Tate's a great ADP value right now. Jordan Tyson probably is a great ADP value. There are, you know, Jacobi Lane's another late round shot to go with the John Stribbling. I think this is an interesting guy. I don't think the ADP moves up much more. He could be the, it could be like a preseason highlight real situation that does move them up the ranks, but I also don't think it's out. of like I love Carl Tate he is my current by far rookie wide receiver leader. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that at the end of the year struggling is the best rookie wide receiver. He has the opportunity he has a great head coach and he's got physical tools like the way that Debo was used by Shanahan to get the ball in his hands and let him do what he can do physical that that reminds me a lot of struggling not in the big body tackle breaker but he's 436 like scheme him some of these plays where he gets the balls in his hand and just open space. Do you have any concern that at least in recent memory so like John Lynch has been the GM since 2017. Yes they have not drafted. No I have huge concern over that so I mean like while we're getting all the you know the tire pumps are just blowing this struggling thing up are we confident that I mean it's great that he's the 33rd pick or something like that like a high second rounder that doesn't mean that they did a good job he was not someone that I think was super highly touted like my Felix model has him with a good score with the draft capital but when you take that out and you just have the pure talent score it isn't it isn't something where it's like me and that guy should be the 33rd pick so yeah there's question marks but the opportunity the offense and the draft costs cost you nothing like just go ahead and take a shot. Last name to throw out there on performance climbers Malik neighbors obviously we understand why that ADP is moving you know he's gone up above a lave and Ted McMillan on sleeper in the third round he was in the fourth he's he's moving up on Yahoo as well he's on track to play week one barring setbacks man we it's tough because I think about like all our our show yesterday the top 10 wide receivers and as soon as we got to like Jefferson it was like Drake London he's awesome guy after the yeah yeah lamb to your break to me after the CD lamb obviously the top four I think are better than I I put CD lamb right there and then it's like these are awesome guys Jefferson and and London and and AJ Brown it's like neighbors like I don't know man neighbors is right right there he's got very little competition starting doesn't necessarily mean he's back to full form and there have been questions about the offense do they concern you I mean yeah Matt naggy concerns everyone it's not naggy alone either it's naggy and Greg Roman combo man these circus can they like each other out though no no two wrongs make it right no there's more a square root situation yeah it's a it's a date where we have a exponential gain or decline I should do you guys see that Adam Gays has a job yeah he's he's way down on the he's in the office is a specialist somewhere down on the chargers who is giving these people jobs that seem like a pity job he's so far down on the coaching list or it's like okay dude you you need a check but I I when it when it is literally just an injury I hate it I hate the analysis because I don't have the insight that the team has but based off of the risk and the profile in the third round I'm happy to draft Malik maybe I think everyone is and I don't think he stays there I think when drafts coming around he's going to wait is is second I think second round is second round is russian rice niko Collins we have no dark neighbors data basically right ever correct yeah it's wild all right that was performance climbers brought to you by GMC we are professional grade let's take a break and we'll jump into well I guess some news and then we'll what what none of just like passing news and then we'll get into rankings jake dobbins what got hurt no one said he'll be fine hmm now I will say he said he's not going to miss a game he guaranteed he's not missing which he is still not a liar still not I guess a liar he did get injured in practice and leave with a trainer but he's fine christian McCaffrey giving the day off with tightness just managing CMC according to clay kubiak yeah that that seems fine Josh Jacobs is going to be out for it at least another week with the groin injury he's growing I always I've got to start doing that butterfly stretch more I was really talking to you think you think they're not doing that I think there's obviously the squad hammy calf anything else we should stretch no coach I I do find myself like I want I want to be fully confident in Josh Jacobs dude but when you mix the like the legal stuff got me out on him to start the offseason and now he's banged up and he missed he's been he's had problems staying healthy I mean last year was no exception to that he missed with a knee injury he missed with a knee and ankle him and then he was an active to in the year he was a machine the first 10 weeks the world deserves marsh on Lloyd doesn't yes and let me let me let me update that the world deserves to see what marsh on Lloyd can actually do on a football field yeah I mean the world deserve to see that with Kendra Miller as well yeah well pick we don't know we don't always get what we deserve so and then Mike would like us to talk about the fact that I was all this negative stuff that Bryant had been I like how it's written in our doc yeah that Bryant rules per everyone obviously met Mike put that in there and I'm just sourcing Pat Bryant has been a training camp highlight guy the last two days on social media where like unbelievable for everyone to make sure that they know Pat Bryant was a rookie wide receiver last year for the Broncos yes third rounder but I'm saying like you have good beat reporters who give us good information really steaming up Pat Bryant some of them even saying like not only is the wide receiver three but the transition to wide receiver two over the course of like it might happen this year during that would be oversawting and then K Adam said what are you how are you going to keep Pat Bryant off the field and champagne said we're not yeah so there you go Pat Bryant something to pay attention to the big thing for me with that is you know if if it's a bottle and then Pat Bryant is stepping up into like a meaningful role which he was hurt last year didn't get a lot of opportunities that's two big weapons that Bowen X is picking up this opportunity so sure let's get into the ranks running backs all right we are counting down the running backs 20 through 11 are consensus rankings what makes an RB two over the last decade running backs finishing in this range 20 through 11 70% average 17 or more opportunities per game 77% had 1100 or more yards which you know that's a lot and then 77% had eight or more total touchdowns we'll start with Mike's guy DeAndre Swift not to be confused with the my guy number 20 but there's a Mike guy yeah that's thought it's off season that's fine I I'm in on DeAndre Swift man well you're in on the offense yep you're you're in on the forever dismissing DeAndre Swift yet him producing part of his career now he has always been a running back to 18 19 22 23 19 14 he got close this year or last year I don't know how a player to me looks so good and so bad on different plays that's one of the things that is weird about DeAndre Swift and it's also weird when you have played on you know three different franchises in a six year career and teams don't love you now we thought maybe he would get dismissed or not used by Ben Johnson and that's not been the case like everything is set up for DeAndre Swift of offensive guru offensive guru came in and said are all this offensive line is garbage here is money fix the problem and they did it doesn't always fix but what they did it it worked out their rush success rate went from 21st to 3rd yards before contact that's a huge one that went from 26 to 6 their their run block rank on pff went from 14th to 3rd and DeAndre Swift still goes in the middle rounds at which and he's the pass catcher you know they're I like common on guy I think he's he's a a fun interesting player towards the end of drafts you can get a much later than Swift if you're wanting to do the I want a piece of the bears running back committee I'll take the later one that's fine but I think that Swift is going to be the leader of it and we're just going to see more of what we saw last year potentially even better be not just because of Swift because of Caleb and his command you know the projection of what can Caleb do in the second year of this offense assuming Luther burden is is healthy this thing should be it can easily be a top five offense in the league and Swift is the leader he's going to score a ton of fancy yeah I mean he is as undesired by the masses as possible because you just don't see a path for him to really finish as a league winning top five back he's been in the league long enough we know what he is he's running back to he's solid he's good he's out there for most games which is great he's a good pick in fantasy football he's not a league winner but he's a good pick however we you know we we we talk about some of these guys behind like when Monanga, when Swift missed week nine, Monanga was the running back three in fantasy football had a ton of work. This is a great offense, a great offensive line and a system that wants to run the ball. But obviously the other thing can happen too. Like should should Monanga get injured? That is how Swift becomes a league winner. Yeah, I think the red zone is an interesting conversation there. They basically split the work last year. It is something where Swift, I think him coming off the field half the time in the red zone is a limit to the ceiling. Yeah, he just he had 13.2 points per game last year. Like that's point two points behind Sequan Barkley. I mean, those more points per game than Ashton Gentie. But where he's going is not in the first of the second round. He's such a he's such a good pick to me. 77% of RB two have eight or more touchdowns. He had he was over that mark last year. Number 19 is Bucky Irving. I think one of the most polarizing. Not even polarizing. Yeah, I mean, just like just wild car uncertain wild car players. He's only 23 years old guys. I mean, Bucky is being drafted at RB 19. So we're exactly at ADP there on him. The latest reports because I think the if we knew Bucky was going to get the workload that he got at the end of the rookie season that he started to get for his sophomore season. Bucky would be you know, probably a low end RB one being as far as where he's being drafted. Now the question is, while they lost or shot white, they brought in Kenny Gainwell. And what is the utilization going to be the early reports from camp are that the vast vast majority of carries are going to Bucky Irving. He is like their running back. However, there's a lot of two running backs sets now with Gainwell on the field. Gainwell is doing a ton of the passing work. And he so far in the last report that I saw in camp, he's getting more receiving work than Bucky. So that really does make sense. It does make sense. That's that's Gainwell's so good at it. But it nerfs Irving's upside if he loses a ton of passing work to Kenny Gainwell. Yeah, I think I think we want to see the between the tackles runner that Bucky was as a rookie. Come back to light because there's going to be opportunity if the offensive line, which is ranked fifth and Baker's healthy and you've got Zach Robinson. Like there's a lot of upside to, you know, I think Bucky's a great pick if they're a top 10 offense. I think he's a bad pick if they're a bottom third offense. Like a lot of it depends on the surrounding situation to me. Yes, the hard part for Bucky is the talent is there. How will he be used? Like if we're saying a lot of the running back receptions are going to Kenny Gainwell, that's a that's a negative for Bucky. And then last year, you know, obviously not a complete full season for Bucky, not a single carry inside the five. And if if if this coaching staff is deciding we don't want Bucky doing the inside the five, he's not our goal line running back. And Kenneth Gainwell is more of the past catching back than Bucky. Like you want the guy who who's in on first and second down because that's where the true fantasy points are. But if that's just 20 to 20, you have a really big problem. Here's something interesting about all the players going in the range of Bucky Irving, which by the way, it's Trayvon Henderson, but he's losing first and second down work. It's Travis Handerson. It's Travis H and Junior. He's losing third down work, which is what Bucky's doing. It's Judkins losing third down work, which Bucky's doing. It's, you know, Bayshall Tudon who we think might lose goal line in and third down on which is what Bucky might do. And then there's the entry Swift. And then there's Swift. That's why I like Swift because he sure, you can have question works about Swift, but he's like a almost two rounds cheaper than all those guys we were just talking about. Yep. And so are you, you know, Cam is basically in the same area as well. And I think I take Cam Skataboo over Bucky. So that's the question is, you know, when when you're on the clock and there were some negative, there were some negative news about Cam. Yeah, about Cam Skataboo that he's coming off in all two minute drills to Tracy. That would be, I don't like that. Really bad. Oh, that would be naggy. Yeah. No, that would remember that math checks out. That math completely checks out. Of course, he'll come off. He's their best weapon in a two minute drill. So you got to, you got to outtake yourself, you know, you got to never see it coming. No, you, I mean, they'll put Tracy on the field and be like, they are never going to give that kind of iron wires. It's still red because why is it still red? It's because the hype train I have to hit the button again to stop it, but the red alert I don't. And I'm supposed to remember it all every time does workman's comp cover UV burns from panic alarms. He's my fault, Mike. I would like you to know it's my fault. But Tyrone Tracy will be the two minute back because he shouldn't see that that is that's why I get really scared with everything on that offense. That's why I get scared about neighbors being as good as he should be. It's why I get scared about dark, getting to do what he wants to do. I'm very, I'm very scared of the giants. Well, I've had this deck of playing cards that has not left the table. So looking forward to busting those out. So I do like scat more than I think this is, I think this is worth bringing up for the full clan because we we were talking about how in those early rounds, when we were going through, when we get to the Justin Jefferson and we get to the Drake London and it's like, obviously, everyone at that point in the draft, they're great. But there's a lot of questions and that there's ways that it can go poorly. Whereas there were really, really good running backs instead there. But now when we get to this point where we're like, I don't know about Bucky or Kim or a lot of these questions Henderson, the wide receivers that are there are, you know, Devonte Smith and Ladmakonky and Mechag Bukka and Zay flowers. It's like, to me, I'm looking strategically at just the 2026 draft. I like the wide receivers here more than the running backs here. Almost like there's the running back dead zone. Jay. Yeah, basically. And it's moved. It's moved up. I wouldn't say that I feel like any of the guys who talked about so far, including this next name, I wouldn't feel comfortable as my RB2 though. Okay, they're not in that. I'm not that. I agree that I wouldn't be uncomfortable, but I just think that the odds are higher for some of these guys that it goes wrong. Ironically, this guy, I think he's pretty darn good. Devonte Williams. I am the highest on Devonte at 15. Oh, that's fine. I'm so proud. He was a running back 11 last year. Solid. Solid is the way to describe. I'm very happy for Devonte. There's nothing spectacular about Devonte's game anymore. It's just he's a great running back. He's a he can handle a large volume. He had his best year points for game wise last year, 14.1. He missed one game. His workload is efficiency. Everything went went to a place where we were like weekend and week out. Oh, look at Devonte again. Oh, look. I mean, there's an offense we love. He's not good in the receiving game, but he is used in the receiving game, which is enough. It was like Chuba. Chuba would get past the ball the time and do nothing with it. Follow the goal line back. He is the passing downs back and he's the between the 20s back. So he is a true workhorse back for one of the offenses we're targeting. He's not necessarily the most explosive player where you're going to have some breakaway amazing season, but he's not aged out either. He's he's not an old man. So to me, it's like get a piece of the Cowboys offense, get a piece of the Bangles offense, especially when those two running backs have no competition on the depth. He had eight total touchdowns inside the five for the previous four years last year, at 10. Do you guys have big news? Jacob Dobbins is back out on the field in Pats. That's right, baby, I told you no news. Pretty remarkable. Nothing to see. Pretty remarkable. Nothing to see. Don't worry about it at all. I won't. But you should. Breeze Hall, which I think Jane Blue is worth talking about because he was an absolute, he was nothing. Last year, there was what the Gucci Gucci cleat gate where the rookie showed up and thought he was hot stuff and seemed like from that moment on, the team had to humble him. But the news on blue is much, much better this year. So I just curious if you guys have any concern for coming. None. I just I want to y'all on so much through what you're saying. I don't care at all. I couldn't care less. Yeah. And it's not a, it's just those guys are just ancillary. I need a blow. Is it Mavar blue when you hear all the reports of Holy Davis, I don't care if it's of like, I had to learn a big lesson rookie and I've learned it. Like, that's okay. Great. Great. Here's what Javante did. Had a great season. They paid him more money. Yeah. I mean, I mean, if you want to talk like, okay, an injury happens to Javante, is it Jaden blue? But we're not even sure it's Jaden blue. I have zero worries that someone's going to like take a chunk of work while Javante is healthy away from Javante. Here is a player that I am the highest of the three of us by a lot. And I'm just really close to planting my flag on Breeze Hall at 17. I got him at 13. Jason is 17. Mike at 20. Mike a little bit behind 80. P. Jason right. there. I'm ahead. Look, he got the bag this off season, three year extension, guaranteed money, 1400 yards from scrimmage in an offense last year. That was it. An utter embarrassment. But one of my favorite things I've read this off season is just the fact that the drumbeat has been one, I like the way the offensive line is trending too. They paid him the money. We don't have this cloud over the head of of breeze. It's like they want him out of town. And then they've talked about featuring him more. They've literally like, Oh, it's a brainland Allen. Imagine, you know, but they've literally talked about featuring breeze hall, which they've kind of done against their will. It feels like at times. I think he is. I love, I love the, the pick of yours of liking breeze this year. I think he's going to be very involved. He's, he's great as a pass catcher. We saw genty last year propped up by Gino just from the dink and dunks, the little drop offs. And that's breeze one of, one of his best parts of his game is taking those little dump offs. There's, and he's going to play Friday. He's still explosive. I mean, he has big plays. I mean, all the jet starters playing Friday, fourth and explosive rush rate, breeze hall, 10th and fourth mistackle rate, 36% of his carries, five plus yards. They knew what they were doing. They knew what the jets were doing. They didn't have a passing game. And they still, he still had success. He has always had success. They should have one of the more changed offensive lines. So there's, and I think there's a lot of. We're tired with breeze hall. After he was running back four as a sophomore, we got too hyped and he disappointed a couple of years in a row. But right now where he's being drafted, there is upside where he can, he can finish as an RB one. Obviously, he's not on a great team, not a great offense. The scoring opportunity is not going to be there, but he's explosive. He's using the passing game. He's their goal line back. He's basically everything that some of these other guys are just not on a good offense. All right, we'll take a quick break and come back with the rest of the rankings. All right, Cam's cataboo comes in at 16 on the rankings. We, we did just talk about him quite a bit. It was awesome as, as a rookie. You know, he, he was number one in the entire NFL in terms of the percentage of his rushing yards after contact. Like he, he got it done. He could fight through tackles. Everything you saw on the college tape, he just translated right into doing it to, you know, linebackers and, you know, corners and everything else at that. Only Ken Bohn Walker had a higher forced mistackle rate. Yeah, I mean, he was awesome. I mean, he brought it up to of like, that's his way of avoiding punishment. You know, when, when we were chatting with him, it was like, if he hits you first, then his legs don't take punishment. He doesn't take that damage. He is totally fine to damage his head so long as he's saving his legs. Yeah. And he, he was just great. 17.4 fancy points per game in his starts. But I just, I just am at this place where I don't know how prescriptive anything they did last year was, you know, Tracy, how often do you involve him? You know, what is dark in this offense look like? I don't know the answer. Matt Nagy, Greg Rome and Brian Callahan. That trio scares the living day lights out of me. They're also going to be. Yeah, I mean, but, but Cam is triforce of sour. We were so close to Cliff here, but Cam, Cam is just kind of, he's the kind of guy that more momentum in the game, more opportunities in the game. He wears people down. So I hope that this offensive brain trust can recognize that and not take him off the field could easily say that you have a third down back. Yeah, I could see it happening down the stretch where the choice is kind of taken away from them. You know, I, I would not be surprised if you come out and week one and for the month of the season, it is a three way committee. You know, they get Devin Singletari his and then Tyrone Tracy, Tyrone Tracy is the two minute back and some passing downs back and first and second down is, is Cam, but I do think as the season goes on, kind of what happened in his rookie season, you just see like we can't really take this guy off the field. He can do it all. He's really, really good. So I expect him to have a better second half than the first half. He's a scary pick to me because there are ways it could easily go wrong, even though love the talent, love the player. And if you had the right coordinator like and maybe they do, maybe they just say, you are our, this is a team that wants to run the ball for sure. They want to run the ball. I said that they have a good defense early in the off season. They didn't last. I think they're going to have a good defense. Yeah. That's bold. They will tell they're not the problem with that is best laid plans for teams that are underdogs a lot. It can take away your running game. Yeah. I mean, are they going to be about 500? But that's the thing with Skataboo is that he should be involved in all three. You know, he should be, he should be a pass catching back. He's that's like, I know he's seen as this. No way. Okay. I want to know when we get to a name today on the 23 11 or you might be comfortable with him. Yeah. No way. What if you went heavy, wide receiver, played one Z in the draft. So I was his office coordinator. I would take him running back four because I would just give him the ball 30 times again. And Andrew is still like, he is still recovering from major injuries. Sorry. The earlier on, if you, you know, if we can pull any of the trends from, so 2017, he was the OC talking, uh, uh, Matt Maggie. He was the OC of the Kansas City Chiefs. That was one of the cream hunt years where it was cream hunt was led the league and rushing. You don't dismiss that for any read though. Well, I just like, hold on. Okay. So he led the, so tons of 272 carries 63 targets. Matt naggy par lays that into becoming the head coach of the Chicago Bears, which to his credit had incredible success in year one. Uh, running back wise, it was Jordan Howard was at 250 carries only 26 targets because it's Jordan Howard. The next year, we had Montgomery at 242 carries 35 targets. And then that followed up with Montgomery 247, 68 targets. So he's, I'm saying, it's not out of the, like, yeah, it's, it's not like when we're looking at, uh, um, monkin where it's like, there's just the stretch, you know, like he's got a guy who for sure carries the ball. And then he has a guy who for sure catches the ball. Uh, it, he utilizes or it, you know, at least has used his guys sort of correctly. We'll see if he can, uh, continue that. Definitely. The ceiling case for scataboo is an RB1. Like, yes, he can easily finish as an RB1. It's just a scary process of where you're putting your trust. Well, 15 is Jeremiah love of the Arizona Cardinals 21 years old. I mean, everything you could ever want in a featureback skill wise elite in every way. I mean, he has a dominant receiver. But you, you're on the Cardinals and you're on Cardinals offense that has Tyler Algier. I mean, I haven't heard a whisper about a play from James Conner this off season. Maybe you guys think he's still hurt. Okay. Well, maybe that explains it. Because I mean, that doubt because all I've seen is, is Algier and Jeremiah love sharing work, which is a is an issue, at least the way that they have publicly talked about James Connor. Like, they're still talking about him as he is very much in the plans for, for the running back room. And he's not even I've seen him out on the practice field. That's why I'm confused. Not, not playing, but like talking to coaches and stuff. So, and in pads. So I'm a little bit confused about, like, there's a lot of rumors about Connor filling in gaps in different teams. Right. Maybe the lions with the MCL spraying to Pacheco go after James Conner to be a backup to Gibbs. Situations like that, where the running back rooms are thinned out a little bit. I think that the fashion Lloyd inevitably gets hurt. That, that you've had Connor recovering from his injury and then Trey Benson continues to be hurt. I think that that probably weighs in right now. Of the carnels. Like, do we have a third running back that we know we can at least get on the field? Gentie was the RB, uh, six in 80 P last year. First round pick. Bijon was the third running back as a rookie prospect. Zeke was the third running back off the board as a rookie prospect. Love is now 13. Like we, we aren't paying. I don't hate it. A ton of money. I mean, if you trust the floor at all in making decisions that are advantageous as team scheme wise, like the improvement from Gannon to the floor on offense. Like, if you, if you go, what is that rational coaching? Yes. The, the fallacy of rational coaching. Your path of victory is Jeremiah love getting as much work as possible at 21 years old with the third pick in the draft. I guess I'm just curious if that discount is enough for you to take a shot at. I, I, I'm okay with it. I've spent most of the offseason being kind of prepped and concerned to be completely out on Jeremiah love running back 13. Even the, you know, the rankings of projections is slightly behind that. Trying to factor in some dumbness from, from what the coaches are doing. But prospect wise is like, I think love is a better prospect than genty was. I think he is a better prospect than Beijon was. Like, this is a true elite player to me. And I just, so Beijon went at the running back three in for ADP wise when he was a rookie. And it's not all that dissimilar to me of, you know, like, there's not going to be a good team. It's a highly drafted running back. They should fully feature him. Now, you know, he got Algier to bit. Ironically, in the world, we are in, Jamie or Jeremiah Love will get Algiered a little bit. That's the question is like, when they get inside the five, who's going to be in there? Is it going to rotate? Is it going to be Algier? Or will it for sure be love? Because if it's for sure love, run it back to our teens. Can't you, but it's not, it's not for sure love. I mean, it's, it's going to be at the very best. I think it'll be a rotation. They won't bring Tyler Algier in on the goal line in certain situations because he's good. They did it with Bijan, even into Bijan's career, not just when he was a rookie because Tyler Algier's good with Breeze Hall. Right. And going back to Breeze Hall, if you look at, you know, LaFour was the OC during Breeze Hall's rookie season where he wasn't even as highly drafted a guy and they had Michael Carter. He recently took over. Breeze was averaging 16.4 fantasy points again before he got injured in his rookie season on pace for 200 carries, 62 targets. I believe that love will get enough work. He will get voltage on the, on the goal line too much. He will also not be someone that in his rookie season is getting 275 carries on the ground. This will be, he will, he will be more around 200 carries and you're hoping he gets like 60 or 70 targets. If 70 would be insane. It would be, it would be awesome. That might be the, the argument for love entirely. You're going to, you're not just underdogs in every single one of your games, you're double digit underdogs and four of your first six and seven and eight and a half point in the other two. Algier's not going to be out there on these, on these comeback attempts, right? Isn't it going to be Jeremiah? I'm catching, like, check down Charlie situation. It should be love. And so if he gets 200 rushing attempts and we'll call it 65 targets, he should be an ADP of being the running back 13. His finish has an RB one. Historically, since 2015, here's running back strafted in the top 10 of the NFL draft. Barkley finished at two, Zeke at two, Bijon was nine, Gentie. It was, it felt really bad and it was 12. McCaffrey was 11, Trent Richardson was eight, Leonard Fornet was eight and Todd Gurley, even coming off of the ACL injury finished at seven. So I mean, historically, this is a, you know, the top 10 running back in the NFL draft is a great bet for fantasy. RB 13. Gentie, I think I'm in. Gentie is why love is going to be a fine pick this year. Like it, Gentie made everyone get too hot and bothered. He was the running back six drafted last year and he was a bust, even though he finishes an RB one because he didn't return on that value. You're not drafting Jeremiah love in the first round. He's absolutely fine where he's going right now. Number 14 is Kyron Williams, the hotly debated Kyron Williams. I got him in 19, Jason at 12, Mike at 16. Yeah, just right. I mean, Kyron, Kyron's a very good player. He's, he's not an explosive breakaway type of guy. He's a high opportunity. It's grinder. The, the big argument for me is just, just look at the data. There's the team that was pressing for the Super Bowl pre-buy week. Kyron is getting 72% of the running back opportunities post by week. It was 57%. Yes, he performs statistically for fantasy, but it's a lot of averages thing for me where if the team has made a decision to share the running back workload, you're going to have a reduced effectiveness for Kyron at some point in time. I think Coram is awesome. All the offseason reports have been great. So I think there will be a slightly reduced running back workload for Kyron. So I have him slightly below ADP. I mean, I'm four spots below ADP. I don't think that's weird because you have to decide what you think the team is going to do. It would seem like you won't have any Kyron on your team though. I will have no Kyron on my team. No, I will have lots of Blake Coram on my team. Yeah. Coram was in, he won't be a my guy because he's, he's still two. I don't think he takes over the job from Kyron. I don't think that that's in the realm of possibilities is. Coram becomes the RB1. I think Kyron stays the RB1, but I think you've seen a progression of running back opportunities reduced for Kyron Williams. And that's something I, I don't like at his ADP. Jay, this is my turn. Yeah. Kyron, I see to my time to the fine analyst on my left. Kyron Williams is a very good running back who is part of the heart and soul of this team that is their lead back that is paid. They gave him the contract to be the man. Blake Coram is very good. And don't hear what I'm not saying. Coram is a good fantasy pick. He is, I put out a tweet of like the insurance backs. He's a league winner should, should Kyron go down. Coram is awesome. Coram can be more involved and Kyron still be a fantastic pick in fantasy. And that's what's going to happen. Coram is going to be more involved and be fine. And Kyron is going to be a good pick in fantasy. He's been a running back one the last three years. He's on one out of, if not the best offense in the league, right? You got, you know, he's, he's in that total upper echelon, especially when the only reason I wouldn't put the Rams necessarily with the bangles and the and the cowboys and the lions is because their defense is good, but that's good for the running back. That means at the end of the game, they're running the ball more and more and more, more opportunities for Kyron. When Coram was super involved at the end of the year and they both had 11 carries inside the five. Like they were both used as goal line backs. Kyron was averaging 14 and a half fantasy points a game. Kyron turned his 11 into six touchdowns while Coram turned his 11 into three touchdowns. Kyron is not going away. Kyron is the leader and he will score a ton of fantasy points. Will he be the, you know, 85% bell cow, the Christian McCaffrey, no, but that doesn't mean he's a bad pick where he's going right now in fantasy drafts. He's just like, I'll tell you what, would I be comfortable with Kyron Williams as my running back one? Absolutely. He, I, I see him as a, as a guaranteed running back one for fantasy. Yeah. And that's where, I mean, I'm not alone and I addressed all of the things you said and when I spoke. So I don't need to go back and do it again. He's been drafted at RB 15 outside the RB one category. It's not the consensus opinion that he's an RB one. He has to be a favorite among running backs for double digit touchdowns. So he is, he has the draft kings. They're going to be on the line. They scored 65 times. Yeah. And like, there's plenty to go around for a one A and a one B. Yep. But I mean, I, I think it will be the turning of the page towards a new paradigm in, in, in, yeah. Kyle says his perfection, his line is nine and a half touchdowns, rushing touchdowns. So that's not even receiving. Yeah. I've got him four spots lower than ADP. So that's, that's what I think of Korum. Jason's got him three spots higher than ADP. At 13 comes Josh Jacobs, 28 years old, dealing with the groin. We've all got him about the same spot. Yeah. We'll see if he stays here. Most touchdowns inside the 10 in the NFL over the last two years. Huge part of the offense. It's, it's really, you know, we can say all the jokes or whatever about, you know, Martian Lloyd finally getting an opportunity. If, if Jacobs is healthy, they don't care about Martian Lloyd. This team cares about giving Jacobs the rock because he thrives on more and more opportunities on being out there for his team. You know, there is just, it's not a very messy situation outside of injury to me. There's, is he healthy? He's dominant. Is he not healthy? He's not on the field. I mean, that, to me, it's very simple. He's a goal line machine. They figured that out and they score every time they give him the ball near the goal line. He, he was so consistent. He was, I got to think he was first nine weeks last year before injury on pace for 21 touchdowns on the ground and 64 targets with 52 receptions. Yeah, I just auto auto RB one. I had him last year. I mean, it was early record team. I had the Jonathan Taylor and Josh Jacobs. It seems hard to remember how good they were now in the first half of the year. Yeah, that's fair. But they were genuinely unbelievably dominant and then he got injured dealt with that kind of played through it when he shouldn't have didn't got punished again. It was a weird, you were suffering because of it. But yeah, I mean, those, those first nine weeks, he was the running back five favored in the first six weeks of the year. Green Bayes. I will not argue anything about the touchdowns. But I'm curious of the just, you know, lack of explosive plays and you know, he's grinding it out. He's maybe he's doing what the team wants him to do. But this is a situation that I think is primed for someone else to get more work than you're hoping. Say, Quan Barkley comes in at 12. Oh boy. It's a nerve wrecking. Yeah, to player to, to drop, but he's at 12. So again, everybody here is our consensus rankings. Jason's taking the shot at four spots lower. I don't feel good about it. So my, my, the, the, which, according to our Kyron core analysis means he hates him beyond all measure. How do you respond to hating say Quan Barkley, Jason? I would say that it's rare for a running back at 30 to get better than the year prior when they start to statistically like lose a step. Now, there are rational thoughts on how it can happen. Last year, the injuries to Lane Johnson and the offensive line for the Eagles might be the reason why it wasn't the age to barkley. It was the offensive line situation that caused Barkley to be. less efficient. That makes as a whole was pretty. Yeah, dry paper. Tulo was a terrible offensive coordinator and now they've got Manian in the offensive line should be better. Also another humongous change for this offense is Jalen Hertz who never was really under center. When he was under center, the offense was very good. Under center, play action, those things. They're really, really good for the running back position. So he is focusing on being under center much more. The offensive line is better. That's all great. But when you look at last year and you say, well, sake one was inefficient because of Pettulo because of the offensive line. Tank Bigsby was awesome. When he got the ball, he didn't have any problems whatsoever behind that line. And what we've seen in camp, maybe it's, you know, look, it's smart. Sake one's going to be 30. Don't just run him into the ground. But tank has been more and more involved in camp. And so I wouldn't be surprised if this year it's going to be the sake one show. But I think that tank will get more than he has in the past. And sake one has been getting the entirety of it. He's been getting like the full Christian McCaffrey type of workloads. So being 30 years old, having lost efficiency last year and the potential for work to be seeded. That's just that's why I'm scared. But I'm also like terrified that sake one could be if you say like could sake one be the running back one this year? I'd say, yeah, he could. He could end up with, you know, it's 1600 rushing yards and 12 touchdowns and still be involved in the passing game. But I am, I bypass him in most drafts where he's going. He's being drafted as the running back seven. And I, I like other backs there. You're like a Marine Hampton more. Yes. Marine Hampton comes in at 11 to round out today's episode. 23 years old was great when he was on the field, but wasn't on the field the bunch last year. Mike, you're the lowest. The comments in the last, you know, 24 hours are, you know, the Twitter spheres abuzz about Mike McDaniel saying that the, you know, doing his trolling thing of bad news, fantasy owners. Good. I see all three of these guys speaking of the Dal Hampton and Mitchell performing at a high level, but that's not possible. No, nor is it like customary for Mike McDaniel and what he does on the offensive play calling side. Like he, remember the comments he had about, I think it was Ollie Gordon. And when he's just like, he'll have either all of the snaps or some of the snaps or zero snaps in the upcoming game. He's a troll. He does like trolling the fantasy football community. I think it's very important. I'll say this. I think it's very important that Imari and Hampton establishes himself early in the season. That, that's what I think is important. Now, if you want to start the year against Arizona Las Vegas and be double digit favorites in the first two games, that's an awesome opportunity to do that. Establish it. But, you know, I think Keaton Mitchell is kind of a player that Mike McDaniel wants to use in the passing game and, and really in inventive ways in this offense. I don't look at Vidal as a threat to Hampton. You know, he's healthy. No, Vidal is, but I think I, I think I don't know what the real range of outcomes for Hampton is. So just tell me so I know whether to trade him or not. I don't see Hampton. Well, I want you to trade him to me. So I would talk in some trades yesterday. I would make a bad case. But in truth, I think that there is a extreme likelihood that you get 18 touches a game for Hampton. And if Hampton's getting 18 touches a game behind a good offensive line, I think he will be great. This is a team where the defense is good. The offense is good. The offensive line is extremely improved. The offensive coordinator is improved. This is also an offensive coordinator in the past who had two top five running backs at the same time for fantasy on the same team. So I'm not worried about the other guys when it, when, you know, it was Raheem Morrison and Devon H and if you've got talent or most or yes, what did I say more? Yeah, that's not the running back. No, no, no, most are an H and so I, I pretty much love all the situation. I really liked the player coming out of college, which obviously the team did too. They spent a first round pick on him and he was very good. You could talk about like there are different ways to spin all the deeper analytic numbers. I see people talk about how inefficient he was here and then I see that look, the numbers that show he was the most efficient, just the best. It's like just watch the tape. He was very good. He, he did things on his own and he, he had very little to work with with the offensive line. I think that the offensive line with the improvement at center and both tackles will be awesome. Can you be a top five back? Absolutely. I believe he can believe that might. I do. I'm like my projection and ranking has me out on Hampton and if this is a, it's a real weird one of like everything is there. Everything is there for Hampton to be what exactly what you want for fantasy football and yet there's just, the cup, the, the, the, the, the tiny little variables. We're like, yeah, you have to kind of trust that like makes me unsure. Like, like, Umar and Hampton's the first round running back. Me and Jason fell in love with his collegiate tape and you have to do the chargers. You have to fundamentally believe that that guy is much, much, much better than Kamani Videl on a per down basis for this team and that that will win. If you, if you look at opportunities per game on year two running backs who were first round picks, all of them, the opportunities per game were Rashad Penny was down at seven and Clyde Edwards, a layer who turned out sucked and we found out out pretty quick. He was the first one running back four. Yes. I know. That's I'm saying. He's all four. He had 14 opportunities again. Still a pretty good amount. Every one else was 16, 18, 19, 19, 20, 21, 21, 22, 22, 22, 23, 28. He's going to get the work. Yeah. And he's good. So just maybe don't worry about the trolling. Yeah. Mike McDaniel. Let's do a couple of mail bag questions. Mail bag. Yeah. Pete and Jersey. Should I keep Tate McMillan in the fourth or Tyler Warren in the seventh? What would you do? Oh, I would take Warren and I would take Tyler Warren. I lean Tet there. Man. But I don't think you make him wrong choices. Alec Pierce did he or did going right in the fifth? So maybe Warren is three, four turns. Warren's got to be going fifth, six though, right? Yeah. What's going on with Alec Pierce? So did he get a shot? Did he the second shot that he'd not get it? Did not get a second shot? Why is it? But if he did get a second shot, it's normal. According to the doctor, either way, nothing to see here. So I look at there is something to see there. I'm not going to stick my head in the sand. I don't want like there are no good vibes around Alec Pierce right now. The end. I mean, until he's on the field and looks like himself, which by the way, two years in a row of leading the league in years per reception, you kind of need your wheels. So and from what I understand, ankle is part of the running process. So you know, it's the Tyler Warren thing like the only thing I'll say about Tyler Warren that needs to be said is that when he didn't have MVP level Daniel Jones, he never hit double digits in fantasy production. That's, you know, is a regular Daniel Jones versus. I mean, they were an eight and one team. They were dominating. Yeah. Can are we going to see that again? I hope so. Tyler Warren. I saw some clips of him at camp this morning. And it was like it was funny because everybody's commentary on him. And I kind of agree, even though I don't care, is that he makes running look exhausting. Like that dude. Yeah. And that's he's not. That is really really fair. Yeah. And other comments are like what you don't see here is how long it took Tyler Warren to catch his breath. Like he is a rumbling like, yeah, like a round mound of touchdown. You know what I mean? Glue it and smooth. No, it's like, but when you get up to speed, it's great. It's just carrying around 260 pounds. Yeah, it's not, it's not leveling, right? It's, right? It's not ingrown or or somebody that's or even Kyle pets. It's a big boy. He reminds me of TJ Hawkinson, which, yeah, that's fair. It feels bad now. But TJ Hawkinson was, you know, awesome. Was a top five tied in three times. He was tied in two wants like younger rock and never look like he really knew what he was doing. No, no running the football. No, he looks out of control at every out of control and blown up. You get a locomotive going. You can't stop it. Can Warren go? What's Warren's outlook for target percentage with Michael Pittman gone. I think he can easily have 25% target share. I think good too. Like I'm, I'm, you know, they would, we, the Loveland Warren argument is like, it's fun to have that debate. Both are going to be awesome. I think I'm finding myself really putting Tucker craft up into the Tyler Warren area mentally speaking. It's Tucker Mike's love language. I mean, I moved him early this morning. Tucker craft went up right at the about the same production levels as Tyler Warren. One more question here from Nathan Vancouver, British Columbia. Oh, Bonture. Are we undervalued Chris Godwin? Evan's gone. I expect a book to get more targets, but the same couldn't it be set of Chris Godwin? I think we really might be. He's in the eighth round and this is a player. Here's why we're undervaluing him. He's 30 years old and he didn't look very good last year. No, he didn't. So it's like you don't expect. Those are good reasons to doubt some of those are good reasons to doubt him, but the doubt's already baked in. He's in the eighth round. Yes. So you're not, you're already paying for, oh, he's not it. But in camp, the camp reports have been that Chris Godwin looks explosive that he's been oftentimes the number one wide receiver that there's spend days where it's like he was easily the best receiver today. And so yeah, in the eighth round, I think early in the off season, I was, I wouldn't have ever thought about drafting a share of Chris Godwin. Chris Godwin. Yeah. And then in the seven games before the major injury, he was 16 points of game in 2024. Last year's kind of a loss season. You look at it and you say, I mean, he's a 30 year old wide receiver. That's a factor. His yards were catch, not where they were during his peak seasons. Is he, could he still be, you know, digs plus, you know, I mean, you could usually be a top 36, top 30 wide receiver. You should check out. We have our mini series on our YouTube YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers, it's called Just the Tips. It's a shorter form content. The one from this past Saturday was all about identifying situations for sleepers. And a God one Chris Godwin was mentioned in that show. Yeah, you make a good point about it being baked in. So that'll do it for today. Top 10 running backs tomorrow mock draft mayhem on Thursday, 10 tips and tricks. Do not miss the Friday episode mayhem is back and the 10 tips and tricks. I'm so excited about that on Friday. It should be a great rest of the week. 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