Fantasy Football - Mock Draft Episode + Leader of the Pack - Podcast for 8/6
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The Fantasy Footballers podcast episode, hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright, kicks off with excitement about their live Megalist Show in Phoenix on August 28th, urging fans to grab remaining tickets. They introduce a new segment, "Leader of the Pack," focusing on the Packers' wide receiver competition. The hosts debate Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, and Matthew Golden, ultimately agreeing Watson offers the highest fantasy upside if healthy, while Golden is a promising late-round pick. News updates cover Stefon Diggs joining the Commanders, boosting Jaden Daniels' outlook; Jonathan Taylor's lucrative extension with the Colts; and Josh Jacobs' groin injury, which raises concerns for his fantasy value. The main event is a 12-team mock draft with half-PPR scoring. Key selections include Jahmyr Gibbs at 1.01, CeeDee Lamb, and Christian McCaffrey falling to the eighth pick. The hosts employ varied strategies, with Mike stacking running backs like McCaffrey and Ken Walker, while Jason pairs CeeDee Lamb with Dak Prescott. Late-round highlights include Stefon Diggs as a sneaky stack with Jaden Daniels and Matthew Golden as a value pick. The episode concludes with team recaps, emphasizing the importance of targeting consistent players and taking calculated risks on high-upside rookies.
Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore
and Mike Wright.
Oh, welcome in.
I told you, I told you he wasn't going to do it.
I thought for sure we'd get something.
I told you that there's no way he's doing it today.
He knows that this is not.
No, I thought about it.
Carson Beck is not the day for it.
I thought about it.
It's Larry time.
Oh, that would have been great.
I'm wearing his hall of fame, but then it, but then it, it kind of, it muddles the real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, I I'm with Mike.
It is Larry time.
Um, welcome into the show.
Thursday, August 6th.
Amazing show today.
We have a new segment to debut.
We got news.
We got the hall of fame game tonight.
We've got a mock draft episode.
It's going to be, it's going to be awesome.
Jason's got a, a fresh Larry Fitzgerald cap upon his head.
His hall of fame cap got it at the pro football hall of fame a couple of weekends ago.
It's just for today.
Is that, that's how into the Cardinals you are this year.
It's just for today.
Well, I can represent Larry representing the Cardinals feels disgusting.
So this is not a Cardinals hat.
This is a hall of fame.
Larry.
I have a goal.
Oh, we've had an, Oh, and like a winless team before we did it one time.
Have we had in, Oh, I mean the Cardinals have a chance at something special.
They have a chance at Oh, and 21 because they're in the hall of fame game.
They get the bonus preseason game.
Then they could lose three more preseason games and then run the table in the lost column.
They usually do pretty well in the preseason teams that suck, try hard in the preseason
while teams that are good.
But are like, we're going to try some stuff.
Yeah.
We're going to work on things.
I will say, yes, we have seen the video, the Cardinals video that is making the rounds.
You, you can keep tagging us if you want.
It, it doesn't hurt my feelings.
We are getting tagged.
We are getting tagged a lot.
Like I've told you, I, I don't care if this team succeeds or fails.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There they are.
The offense looks really bad.
If you haven't seen the video for the hall of fame game.
Everybody, you need to see it.
Cause it's pretty amazing.
Well, we get to see Carson Beck and he gets to see everything.
So much of the field, everything.
He can see the field better than any human.
That's about his eyes.
No, it's just, he's got good vision.
Peripheral.
Yes.
He was built to see a lot, you know, but the, uh, this is the, I don't know if you all
remember out of control.
Do you remember, uh, the movie pitch black and the monsters had a, a blind spot right
in the middle.
Yeah.
That's don't throw to the middle of the field.
There might be.
He might not be able to see it.
Remember hit pitch black with Vin Diesel from 30 years ago, bro.
It spawned a trilogy, man.
Uh, respect Riddick pitch black rules.
Those were good movies.
Thank you, Josh.
If you haven't gotten down with pitch black in a while, you really should.
It's so bad.
It's good.
We never tied a theoretic joke into that movie back in the day.
Hmm.
Yeah.
We made mistakes.
Yeah.
We have a big announcement.
Big announcement to start things off.
Uh, you can mouth trumpet, Mike.
If you want to, this is the, uh, the last time we're going to make this announcement,
but we want to see you there.
It is almost sold out.
The Megalith show in Phoenix, end of the month, August 28th, Friday at the Van Buren in Phoenix,
Arizona.
We have just released about 50 tickets that we had held back as comps and things like
that.
We just released them.
So there are some prime seats available at ballers live.com.
If you want,
if you want to come to the live show, they are amazing.
It's an opportunity to hang out with probably 800 other foot clan, fantasy football fanatics.
Um, we've got a great show.
It's going to be an awesome time.
We've got some great things planned.
It's, you know, about three weeks from today.
So make your, make your arrangements.
Come on out, come see us.
There's still some tickets left now that we opened them up.
Yes.
Betsy will be there.
The board will be there.
It should sell out pretty soon.
So do not forget presented by our friends at Sirius XM sponsored by GMC and PetSmartz.
Absolutely.
We're so excited.
Like we're going to have, there's going to be a bunch of crew there and I don't, I don't
know what the crew are planning.
Like, I don't know if they're trying to be Waldo incognito.
I don't know if they're, well, Brian Ketchum, the biggest loser will probably have a giant
arrow pointing at himself probably to make sure that everyone knows who he is.
And then, uh, yeah, Julia will be there.
If, if you, if you want to do a pushup contest on Julia, yeah.
She will crush you.
Yeah.
We'll take 10% of the take.
She can keep the 90% and, uh, no, it'll be great.
So ballers live.com.
If you want to get in, there's a few tickets left.
The time is now go grab them.
We were looking forward to seeing you at the end of the month.
All right, let's get it going.
Leader of the pack presented by PetSmart.
All right.
We are kicking off today's episode.
We are kicking off today's episode with leader of the pack.
We are going to look at some situations, uh, at running back and wide receiver over the course of the next few weeks.
This is useful stuff where there are competitions.
There are situations that a different player could end up being named the leader of the pack.
Right.
And that's going to matter when you're deciding between some options.
And this is a great one to start off with.
We're going to look at the Packers wide receivers because I think it's, I think you can make it compelling.
It's going to be a compelling argument for all three guys to be the one you're interested in this year for, for one reason or another.
And, and maybe, you know, obviously one of those arguments is going to be more compelling to you than another.
Yeah.
But you know, this is, this is a really weird wide receiver room in the past.
You know, we've had a rotation here.
No wide receiver on the roster surpassed 725 receiving yards last year dealt with injuries.
Matthew Golden wasn't really a factor.
We, Romeo Dobbs was part of this team.
Dontavian Wicks was a part of this team to start this year.
It could be a very confusing, tough decision for fantasy players.
So what are you thinking about the Christian Watson six round pick Jaden Reed, 10th round pick Matthew Golden, 11th round pick.
How are you breaking this down?
Yeah, it's, it's very interesting because if you get it right, I think you're going to have great fantasy success.
The way that I view it, the, the, the, the upside for each one of these, right?
You've got Matthew Golden first round pick.
It should be on the field in two wide receiver sets.
However, early in this off season, there was some reports that it was Christian Watson and Jaden Reed working into wide receiver sets.
Now that's been the knock on Jaden Reed is he's just a slot guy.
And if you're, we want wide receivers to work in the slot.
That is great for fantasy.
But if you only work in the slot, you pretty much aren't on the field enough to be very relevant.
Now, I do think Jaden Reed might be the best wide receiver of the three.
Personally, he is very, very good.
But they like what he does.
He's also been good for fantasy in the past rookie year.
Who's the wide receiver 23 that he followed that up with fewer snaps and yet was, you know, a decent wide receiver.
I think wide receiver, like he was top 25 and then last year was just gone poof.
So if he works into the field in two wide receiver sets, he's great.
The highest upside is Matthew Golden.
But am I, I think ups the upside case of being a true.
So he's the camp reports have been very glowing on Matthew Golden.
That he's finally showing what, you know, he's been making plays all over the place.
He is a great athlete, obviously has the draft capital to where the team believes in him.
But I'm saying all that to work to Christian Watson, which is who I am putting my chips on, who I think is the for fantasy football, for scoring fantasy points, the way they use him in the, the, you know, assurance that he will be on the field barring injury, which is really his big problem.
Yes.
But if he is healthy on the field, which is the only thing.
We can work with, he's going to score the most fantasy points of these three.
I don't, I don't, I don't believe in Matthew Golden.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm very in on Christian Watson.
If you've been hanging with us for, for the entire off season, he is ranked extremely high for me.
I'm very bullish with the, with the other guys gone, the, the talk of fewer rotations at the wide receiver.
I think these three guys are going to be out there a ton.
The, my, the, the question comes down to, uh, cause I got, I got Watson is on the top.
Here, but like reading golden, we had a brief moment in time.
A tweet came out and said, here are the starting, this is the starting offense for the green Bay Packers.
Got down to wide receiver.
There was two of them.
It was Christian Watson and Jaden Reed.
And it was what are Jaden Reed has been only used in three wide receiver sets by, by coach Lafleur.
So that was like this weird, interesting nugget.
I think that, that kind of shook what was going on for fantasy.
Football.
But then just a few days later, you had the interview with Jordan love.
I think he was talking to, to K Adams and he's like, you know, Matthew Golden's the X he's taken over for Romeo Dobbs.
And it's like, and that makes the most logical sense of, yes, that was so you kind of have to project that you have data here.
I mean, with the number of routes that Jaden Reed has run with two or fewer wide receivers on the field, he ran two of them in 2023, five of them in 2024 and one route in seven games last year.
They like him.
They gave him an extension, $20 million guaranteed.
But they like what he does, and why would they change what he does?
He's a slot-wide receiver.
They have, obviously, the departure of the two other big names in the offseason.
I mean, it's not too dissimilar than Josh Downs in Indianapolis,
where most of the experience of that player has been in the slot,
but they like the talent of the player, so they may give them more opportunities
on the outside at times.
Obviously, if an injury happens, which, look, Christian Watson has happened a lot,
but if an injury happens to any of these guys, you get a lot of target consolidation
that you haven't seen in Green Bay in recent years.
It's tough.
I mean, I think this is a situation where we're saying,
who's the leader of the pack?
In fantasy perspective, we all agree it's Christian Watson.
However, I think all three players are good picks.
I think all three are good picks in fantasy.
I don't see any consequence with shooting your shot on Jaden Reed in the 10th round.
He's a player that I feel a little bit burnt on because for years I've said,
I believe in the talent of this guy.
They don't give him enough opportunities.
And then Matthew Golden in the 11th, as a first-round,
wide receiver, who I know it was a rough start to the year,
but against Chicago, 4-for-84 and a touchdown in the playoffs,
I just don't see how any of them are bad picks.
Jaden Reed.
Yeah, I think that's pretty interesting.
I agree.
Reed, to me, is the only one that I am starting to be out on.
After that conversation where it was kind of confirmed that –
because the whole concept for Reed to have success is that he is going to
finally be using two wide receiver sets with Dobbs being gone.
But when that conversation came out,
and said, yeah, Matthew Golden, the guy that they did draft to play the outside,
is replacing the X,
then I don't think Jaden Reed can be good for fantasy
if he's not on the field in two wide receiver sets.
So to me, I think it goes Christian Watson, one.
That's the leader of the pack.
Leader of the pack is Christian Watson to me.
But I would love to take some shots on Matthew Golden
with the camp reports that he's great.
Because I will say, if you were to say,
which one of these players next year will we just feel really foolish, like, duh.
Well, the first round –
For drafting?
The first round –
Matthew Golden.
No, sure.
But the first round NFL draft pick that they had the guy in his way depart
on a good offense in year two,
if he ends up just being a really good player,
next year we'll feel foolish.
And it doesn't cost you anything in the 11th.
Mike, how do you feel about this frame of thinking here?
And, yeah, I would put Matthew Golden in as the underdog
that can have that relevant position.
You've always loved Romeo Dobbs.
Yes.
I think we've all –
We've all respected the talent of Dontavion Wicks.
He's had drop problems.
But, like, right now he's the two in Philly.
And then you have Reid.
And then you have Watson.
And then you have Kraft.
Like, you look at that.
That's five names, not Matthew Golden.
Is there a chance that the Matthew Golden storyline
is just not that much opportunity?
I know we say targets are earned.
But as a rookie, those are five names that are pretty big names.
And they ran the ball.
It was a Josh Jacobs offense.
Sure.
It's the –
I think Jacobs –
Jacobs and, like, the question of what is this offense going to be?
Does Jacobs still have enough?
You know, things kind of petered out at the end of last year.
Yes, there were injuries, of course.
But Jacobs is an older running back and wasn't super efficient.
I mean, he was scoring tons of fantasy points.
It's just can –
You know, is there a step loss?
That's a –
It is a fair question, I think, to ask.
I've got Christian Watson by far as the leader.
And –
My second choice, assuming you're not counting Tucker Craft,
because we're just talking the wide receivers.
Yeah, you're just wide out.
It's –
I would.
I'd take the shot on Golden.
Yeah, it's surprising.
Jayden Reed's in year four.
Matthew Golden only played 53% of the snaps last year.
It felt like, oh, he was out there not doing anything
because he played most of the games.
But he was not a full-time player.
No.
So he has a huge opportunity to improve.
That was –
Oh, you got hit.
Matthew Golden got –
I feel like I just got smashed in the face.
I was trying to transition there, Al.
Yeah, the timing wasn't ideal.
I just feel like when Packers are being brought up on this show,
you kind of lose your head a little bit.
Is that fair?
My figure was hovering over that button for a long time.
I felt like I was patient, but then I was too patient.
Then you're like, he's closing the segment.
It's now or never.
It's now or never, boys.
You were hovering over the button and found the worst possible time?
Yeah.
How did you do that?
Let's try it again.
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News and notes from around the league.
He hits the drops like Josh shoots a basketball.
You know what I mean?
All right, dude.
All right.
Can we get it on the back wall?
Oh, my gosh.
No, no.
I hate you guys so much.
The problem is the video is so much worse than the photo.
Which is terrible.
I mean, it's not great.
This is a pod.
Oh, no.
I mean, most people listen.
Josh, I'm on your.
I wouldn't.
Oh, I don't.
You know, you can show it.
I got no shit.
Listen, we need to shame him.
I just surveyed our audience.
The majority still listens, Josh.
So you're in good.
We can't really convey.
Oh, we can convey it.
I can convey it.
You know how bad Jeremy's timing was with that button?
Josh's shot is worse.
Way worse.
We were filming something for the Phoenix Suns yesterday, and we had to do it.
We do a little a little.
We did a little basketball competition in the office with one of those behind the door basketball hoops.
And we all took some shots.
And then everyone did pretty well.
Got to go close.
Mike is like for Mike to maybe say he doesn't want to show it.
It's that bad.
It's telling that Mike's sense of Mike doesn't have a sense of protecting somebody's shame.
It was like the first time anyone has ever thrown a ball.
He tried to shoot it like he throws an axe.
If you ask yourself.
The ball hit the wall.
On the right.
If you ask yourself, hey, what happens if I if I shoot with the opposite hand?
It's twice as bad as that.
So if we get it, we'll throw it up on the screen.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, I'm sorry for the audio.
Yes.
I mean, the hoop is right in front of it.
The hoop is straight.
Can we run that back?
Oh, yeah.
Let's see this one more time.
Oh, I don't even know if they understand where the hoop is.
YouTube dot com slash the fantasy footballers.
That's the experience.
And share in the shame of Papa Josh, who we love.
Goodness.
First bit of news.
The commander signed Stefan Diggs to a one year deal worth up to twelve million dollars.
He's thirty two, almost thirty three years old.
That puts him that puts him in the nearly Devante Adams.
Mike Evans category age wise.
Diggs is not the player he once was, but he did have one hundred and two targets.
Eighty five catches a thousand yards for touchdowns in New England.
It's wild to think that he you know, it's like I already I knew it.
So it's not surprising now.
But.
When I was going through the stats early in the offseason, I was like, wow, Diggs had a thousand yard season.
He did.
Just felt like it's because it started slow.
It it started slow.
And the if you drafted Diggs like I did, I drafted him late and we got to like week three.
And it was he was the wide receiver.
Sixteen.
Is this going to is it going to catch on?
And then it did.
Are you drafting Diggs?
I'm not drafting Diggs.
Well, I'm I'm not opposed to it.
Here's what I love about it.
I love it for Jaden Daniels.
I've been so worried about.
I mean, the departure of, you know, you bring in a concho.
We don't know what that report is like.
He had a report with Zach Ertz McLaurin.
He's also I mean, they have they've got some age.
Sure.
At the wide receiver room.
Antonio Williams being there.
This feels like the necessary kind of like stabilizing piece of a wide receiver room that gives me more confidence that Jaden Daniels can perform week in week out in the past.
One hundred percent.
I was here to off of the ACL.
I was.
Statistically high on Jaden Daniels, but like emotionally scared.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, Jaden's really high in our ranking.
So this is this is good.
And I don't I don't mind you taking a shot on Diggs later in the draft.
I I think that he could have some PPR value.
It's probably not going to be, you know, a thousand and thirteen yards and seventeen games.
That is that is not a high number, but it's not irrelevant either.
So I think it really hurts the if you were about fifty nine yards a game.
If you were in.
You know, Conqua, bro, I think that this is a massive down arrow for that.
Or an Antonio Williams truth.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you're right, Mike.
The short area targets, the stuff that they're going to fight over it now.
Washington had the highest second highest vacated target share in the NFL.
So there's room for Diggs.
Jonathan Taylor and the Colts have reached an agreement on a two year extension includes thirty nine million guaranteed.
He had good for you.
He had been paid and then he wanted to get paid some more.
And they said, all right, we're not going to.
Fight this time and dash money.
Yeah, I mean, to your extension, a bunch of guaranteed money.
That means Bijan, Jonathan Taylor.
And then the latest report on Jameer Gibbs is that he is both going through the walkthrough.
And when someone asked him if the contract extension was close, he threw him a thumbs up.
So I think.
Yeah.
Today, tomorrow.
It's this week.
Gibbs should get paid as well.
Josh Jacobs.
Oh, it's wild.
He's not practicing because of a groin injury.
A severe one, according to Jason.
Yeah.
Well, I hadn't seen this news yet.
And the fact that he's on my league of record team, it hurts me.
It's unsurprising.
Oh, that was that was just guttural.
Yeah.
So so far, just to be clear, let me just count down the the league of record running back room for you.
Lost Jonathan Taylor.
Jonathan Taylor.
Who got that money?
Yeah.
You lost him in the keeper lottery.
Just got paid.
Correct.
You have Travis A. Chan Jr.
Correct.
Who we just found out Camara is going to take their down.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of.
And then we have Josh Jacobs who. And he's had an offseason that's led to a, ah, yeah, okay, you're doing great.
2027, here we come.
Todd Bowles says he's unsure when Jalen McMillan will return to practice.
Banged his knee a couple days ago.
Tez Johnson.
Tez Johnson.
This is just a reason for Mike to, okay, what is that?
Oh, we got a drop?
Yeah!
Okay.
Oh, we got multiples.
Hey!
Nice.
So we got Ted Hurst all up in this place.
Okay.
Ted Fred, Durst Hurst, there I am!
Yeah!
So Ted Hurst.
The only reason I don't like the drop is because I enjoy saying it.
Yeah, I don't know if I'll go with it.
Ted Hurst is, I mean, he's a talented, big-bodied, outside wide receiver.
He's going to compete with Jalen McMillan.
Come on!
If McMillan is hurt.
It's just an interesting name to keep your eye on.
I don't even know if you should be necessarily drafting him with your last pick.
You know what happens?
If you draft him, you get to do that.
Yeah!
It is fun.
It's the Matthews Bridge!
And I really like the tape.
I was a Ted Hurst believer before the draft, and I thought he landed. Even before the bit.
Even before the bit.
I thought he landed in a great spot in trying to replace, you know, not replicate, but come
into the place where Mike Evans just vacated.
So it's interesting because McMillan was having a good camp, and Tez Johnson was having a
good camp.
But there have been positive reports from Todd Bowles, from others about Ted Hurst, so
just pay attention.
Do we call him. Not what you said.
Do we go Ted Fred Durst Hurst?
Yeah, so I wrote it this morning both ways, and I was like. I don't like Ted Fred.
I don't like Ted Hurst Fred Durst.
Oh, come on!
Ted Durst?
I don't know, man.
Fred Durst.
There it is.
I think we keep workshop. You know what time it is.
Keep on rolling, baby.
We're going to take a break, and then we're going to mock draft.
The Fantasy Footballers Mock Draft.
Dude, I just got a reel of Limp Bizkit this morning.
They're still out there crushing.
I don't think crushing, Mike.
I think your phone's listening to you, Mike.
You are mistaken, dude.
This was a big crowd.
They're out there crushing.
That's why we partnered with them this year on this.
Mock draft time.
Let's go.
12-team, half PPR, one quarterback, two running back, two wide receivers,
one tight end, one flex, four bench spots, randomly assigned draft spots.
I got the number one spot in the draft.
I don't know if I've had a mock at the top like that.
Kyle and Betts right after me.
Mike and Jason back at eight and nine in the draft,
and we've got the writers and the editorial staff
and team here on board.
Papa Josh, Al Borland also in the draft.
All live picks here on the show.
It is time to get this thing going,
and I'm going to take the guy that has not gotten the check just yet,
but he's going to be my 101 this year.
It is Jameer Gibbs, the differentiator to me between him and the rest.
He's right in that prime on a great team,
so I'm going to go with Jameer Gibbs.
Yeah.
Jamar Chase going number two overall.
We're all in this mock draft as we kick it off.
B. John Robinson coming in at 103.
Unsurprisingly, we go running back, wide receiver,
running back as we get this thing started.
I mean, do you believe – are you both in the Jameer Gibbs
at 101 camp right now?
I am very, very, very much in the Jameer Gibbs 101 camp,
unless it came out that it truly was not a contract issue
and he's dealing with injuries.
Injuries would be a reason.
Outside of injuries, he is projected to easily score the most points
by a country mile.
He's on the best offense that doesn't come close
to the Atlanta Falcons offense.
The scoring opportunities, the vacated rushing yards and touchdowns,
the depth chart with – he's competing with Pacheco.
Like, to me, he is the clear 101.
Well, the pick has been made.
Puka Nakua goes 104.
Jonathan Taylor at 105.
And J.S. in at 106.
We went running back, wide receiver, back and forth for the first six picks.
Amon Ross St. Brown goes 107, putting Mike on the clock.
Mike and Jason back-to-back in this draft.
That should be interesting to pay attention to.
I don't like it.
I mean, it's very clear, I think, where Mike's going to go, but we'll see.
What are you between?
I'm just – I'm taken aback of – I haven't –
of all the mocks we've already done this year,
I have not been in a situation.
I haven't been in a situation to take my sweet, sweet Christian McCaffrey,
which we'll see how hungry the power station's going to be.
But I'm in.
As running back four at this part of the draft.
So it's like, do you take McCaffrey or, you know, CeeDee Lamb, I think,
would be the other pick that I would consider there.
But I'm playing to win.
All right.
So CMC off the board to Mike.
Jason, you're on the clock as we get towards the back of the first round.
This is extremely easy for me.
To me, CeeDee Lamb is a –
If you want to throw Justin Jefferson in there, great.
But he obviously played last year with bad quarterbacks and wasn't great.
A.J. Brown, Drake London, they're good players,
but they are a tear down from CeeDee Lamb to me.
If I look at running back, running back is like, okay, James Cook, awesome.
Yeah, I don't think he's –
Jamesy, great.
Barkley, great.
I don't either, but I really like Hampton.
I really like Kenneth Walker.
I really like Chase Brown.
Like there's whoever –
You're just naming me and Mike's running backs in League of Records.
Yeah.
Someone's getting back to me after this turn.
So I'm going to take Lamb.
He was the –
End of a tear for me.
Very, very easy pick for me.
All right.
We are –
Well, we saw James Cook go off the board next.
So CeeDee Lamb, then it's James Cook.
Puts Brooksy on the clock.
He went Barkley in the first round.
This is interesting.
Barkley, as a bounce back guy, there's been a lot of talk,
the change of Petullo going to Sean Mannion.
Sean Mannion has said they want to go under center.
And I don't know if that's great for –
I mean, Jalen Hurts has played well under center,
but I don't know that –
He'll scramble as much, but it's really good for Barkley.
Or if, potentially, the tank gets involved.
Oh, oh.
I could see tank pigs be eating into some work this year.
So Jefferson goes at the 112 to Cash.
How are you guys feeling about the quarterback competition right now
between Kyler Murray and J.J. McCarthy?
I think it's just inevitable that it's going to be Kyler.
I think it's going to be Kyler by a lot.
It gives me a lot of optimism around Jefferson.
Okay, that's where it went.
If you are feeling like it's Kyler, which I agree,
the news coming out from different places does seem to be uneven
on both sides of the quarterback battle.
I think it'll be Kyler.
So it's just – if it's him, are we confident in Jefferson
being a first-round pick?
I went on a little bit of a soapbox yesterday at lunch
when the three of us were out there.
I really, really hate –
we've gone too far on the level of hyper-analysis
at practice and OTAs in terms of completing –
this guy went 10 for 11 today.
This guy went 11 for 14 today.
I don't care that much, and I really don't believe –
I mean, there's a level where I care
if a guy goes one for 11 and throws seven picks,
but the small, minute details and accuracy when a player –
Kyler Murray's never been in the system.
You think he's going to be super accurate on day one of OTAs,
and that's going to be what –
what Kevin O'Connell cares about?
Is day one of OTA completion percentage?
He's just a much better player, so he's going to win the job.
He's going to win the job because he's better,
and he'll get the system down.
So Jefferson rounds out the first round, though.
He goes at 112.
Hampton, Chase Brown, Derrick Henry.
I assumed I was going to get Hampton in this draft,
but that's also because I did not assume
Ashton Gentry would get to me.
So it went in a different order.
Very easy to me.
I would take Ashton Gentry here.
So the tight decision-making there for me
is the Gentry-Ken Walker decision.
Yes.
It would be between those two.
Those two have bounced back and forth in my rankings a little bit.
It seems like you were very convicted on Gentry.
Mike, you are back on the clock.
I am equally as convicted to not have taken Ashton Gentry right there,
so that worked out for me because I will not be rattled
when it comes to Ken Bone Walker, baby!
The draft starting CMC Ken Walker for Mike
when he has the eighth overall pick is –
Very Mike.
I just don't feel like people don't hand us those type of starts
in the mock draft, but Mike gets it.
The year of Mike continues is all I'm saying.
CMC falling to eight.
I mean, I think that's going to happen in a lot of leagues.
Yeah, I think that's a totally normal ADP.
I probably would have picked him at eight,
and I wouldn't have picked him at seven,
so that's where he should be going.
Well, Ken Walker and CMC for Mike building a super team.
Brock Bowers goes 206.
A-chan.
What could go wrong?
What could go wrong with Christian McCaffrey and Ken Walker?
Nothing. Nothing at all.
Devon A-chan goes at 207.
I think that is a steal.
A.J. Brown, Trey McBride at 209,
so Bowers and McBride three picks apart, unsurprisingly.
Nico Collins at 210.
Drake London at 211.
The Nico pick.
Betsy took him.
Yeah.
Why does Nico feel like the least sexy pick in the first two weeks?
I am completely in agreement.
You know, you're not inspired.
by the passing game of C.J. Stroud
This is going to be a slow offense.
Nico is fantastic.
I mean, when he's out there, he's scoring a lot of points.
But last year, it wasn't a smooth ride.
You know, he had some down games.
But, you know, he was the wide receiver eight.
So I think maybe if he keeps getting pushed down to the back of the second,
you know, it could be a value.
Yeah, I think it's the feelings about C.J. Stroud are not strong.
And that's seeping over onto Nico, who, like, yes, there were –
Nico had more bad games for a top-tier wide receiver than you really want.
But he also had a lot of great games.
So I'm still in on Nico.
I still believe in his talent.
He's 27, so he'll still be in his prime.
And, I mean, looking at the roster construction, Betts had Bijon.
So it's the do you want to start your draft?
With two Atlanta Falcons, some people are okay with it.
Betsy was not.
Yeah, I don't love the decisions I have to make here at the turn
with such a long wait ahead of me.
I want to bring it up because if you are drafting at, like, 101,
where you've got the turn and the long wait, which is 22 picks,
like, I'm not going to take Colson Loveland here, okay?
That's too early for me for Colson Loveland.
I'm also not going to get Colson Loveland.
I have to accept it because I might want him,
but I can't get him at a spot where I feel like it's the right value
and the wait is too long.
He's going to go in the next 22 picks.
I've got back-to-backs here.
My decision-making at running back here is Jeremiah Love or Josh Jacobs.
I have Jameer Gibbs.
You could argue hero RB situation there gives me some time for Jeremiah Love
to ascend a little bit in Arizona.
I just don't trust that team enough to make the difference.
I'm going to take Josh Jacobs and go running back, running back.
Okay.
And then I am going to – it's between – go ahead.
You could be the highest of T.
I could be the highest.
You mean to take both of them?
I mean, Gibbs-Jacobs-Love, that's a unique, interesting start.
It is interesting in the fact that, like, the wide receivers here,
like Olave's on the table and Pickens is on the table.
But there's a lot of guys I like in a lower – I mean, I like Waddle.
I don't mind taking a shot on Devontae Adams, Jamison –
well, Jamison maybe not on the same team,
but Ibuka, McConkie I like.
There's a lot of names I like there, so that's interesting.
But I'm going to go Josh Allen at 301.
That's a good pick.
I'm going to take Josh Allen at 301.
I wasn't going to obviously go two onesies there with, like, a Loveland Allen.
So I'm going to go Gibbs-Jacobs-Allen to start the draft.
Jeremiah Love does go next to Kyle, Pickens, and Olave.
Those are the three other names I was between.
Putting Al Borland back on the clock.
He takes – he pulls the trigger on Rashi Rice.
Man, hopefully he's healthy.
Yeah, I find myself vacillating a little bit on Rice where it's like –
The entire offseason he's been this guy where you know what he is for fantasy.
And now I don't feel that way.
It feels – yeah, he is a very polarizing, like, heart-brain pick.
Like, my heart doesn't want to take Rice from my fantasy football team.
My brain knows what the numbers are.
He's not cheap enough to make it a guarantee.
But he goes at.305.
Kyron at.306.
Jason loves that.
Tett McMillan at.307.
And the boys are back-to-back here in the third round.
Mike has Christian McCaffrey and Ken Walker.
I mean, if you want to just keep it going, Mike, you want to be high-T,
I think there's a DeAndre Swift out there with your name on it.
There is.
And, I mean, based off of this room of people, I think there is a low –
if I pass on Swift, I think there's a low chance that he's going to be high-T.
I think he would come back.
I think in your home drafts, I would definitely push.
Lynn let Swift come back to me in the fourth.
Running back-wise, ADP, we're talking Brees, Gervonta, Scadaboo,
H.N. Jr. of the Saints.
And then at the wide receiver, T. Higgins is there.
You've always loved yourself some T. Higgins.
I do. I do love T. Higgins.
I think it's honestly coming down to – so it's my wide receiver one.
T. Higgins.
I want to know for sure that I'm getting a target floor,
which Garrett Wilson strongly fits that bill.
Jason, I don't know if you've been reading up on Geno Smith,
which that's – obviously, I'm lying.
I know you've been reading up on Geno Smith.
I think I saw Jason and Geno on the sideline of the Chargers practice.
I bring it up because it's actually been –
Guys.
It's been positive.
He's wearing red contacts now, okay, to stop the glare.
He learned this trick.
Wait, I have not –
I knew –
I knew you were locked in on Geno.
Of course I'm locked in on Geno Smith.
No, he's wearing –
Geno.
That is true.
He's wearing –
Red contacts, yeah, to help –
Do his eyes look crazy?
I haven't been up close.
Like a demon.
Like in the Thriller video?
It's –
Like a velociraptor.
I'm hoping those red contacts just lock on to Garrett Wilson.
So, I mean, they definitely will.
So, it's Garrett Wilson, or do you take the risk on Malik Neighbors that he's –
At 308?
That he's okay.
I think it's a great value.
You've got to ask yourself, are you okay with that being your wide receiver one?
I can't hear any of Jason's commentary right now without knowing he's picking next.
I just can't.
Yeah, all I wanted was Malik Neighbors.
Oh, I knew it.
I knew it.
I couldn't hear it without –
I figured you would want –
He was being the straight man.
I love Garrett Dangerous.
I love Garrett Wilson, but Malik Neighbors in the third, if he ends up healthy,
even if he gets off to a slow start and he's 70% of what he would be,
it's a phenomenal pick.
That's where I would –
I still don't –
It is tough, though, with like –
I mean, he is his one.
That was the hope that I had was that I could talk him off of Neighbors
by pointing out that he is –
You don't have another wide receiver.
I have C.D. Lamb, so I would trade you Garrett Wilson for Malik Neighbors.
It sounds counterintuitive.
It's my one, my wide receiver.
I want him to be solid.
But I have two, in my projections, two stud running backs.
So it's like I can now wait on the running back position
and I can kind of pad more wide receivers in the meantime.
Yeah, you can.
There's going to be value there next round.
Jason's on the clock.
I feel good about it.
Lamb and Gentry.
I'm on the clock.
I think that running backs are going to die out quicker
than the wide receivers that I like.
So even though I really like Garrett Wilson here,
he would be the wide receiver I would take.
I'm going to take my man Cam Scadaboo and I will –
Over Garrett Wilson?
Yes.
Because of the position, I want to make sure I'm solid there.
There's a lot of wide receivers I like in this draft later on.
Later on, I have not enjoyed running backs later in drafts this year.
Four teams.
Two teams through the first two rounds went running back, running back.
Two more teams added a second running back in the third round
and we are rolling over to the fourth here.
Abuka Flowers-Higgins, great value at wide receiver, finishing out the third.
Garrett Wilson, Javante and Loveland, and it's back to Jason.
Brooks has always been a man of exquisite taste.
Was that the Zay Flowers pick?
Oh, did he take Flowers?
Just completely unrelated.
He was complimenting it.
No, yeah.
I mean, he – Fabergé eggs.
Yeah.
So I am –
He's a wealthy, wise man.
Oh, man.
Brooks moves away and that bit goes away.
No, he moved the bit.
You stole that from us, Brooks.
Yeah.
Just imagine how he's living in Ohio, that cost of living.
Oh, my gosh.
He's king.
He's king.
Do you own Ohio?
Yeah, he's the king of Ohio now.
He's the king of Ohio.
That's the only state in the union that elects a king.
He elected himself.
I like the idea of electing a king.
I mix democracy.
With being the ruler of a nation.
Jason, you're back on the clock.
So it's a pretty easy decision because I've got Gentian, Scataboo.
I'm looking between either wide receiver, which is a clear Devontae Smith to me.
I love Devontae Smith at this point in the fourth.
I think he's going to be a top 12 wide receiver.
Or I got Tyler Warren.
Yeah, I figured he was on the –
The dog.
I haven't had enough shares of him.
So I'm going to swing on taking an elite tight end, someone that I do think
is going to have 140 targets at the position.
Yeah, we just talked about it, and they go back to back on yesterday's show.
I'm going to give you a second to think about it.
We'll take a break and come right back.
All right, Mike's on the clock here at pick 405.
Coming around for the big decision on does he go back to wide receiver?
Jackson's going to go here in the next couple rounds.
Jaden Daniels and company.
McCaffrey, Walker, neighbors, you're up.
So the decision on tight end has been made for me,
so I'm not even looking or considering that.
Wide receiver-wise, it would be down to Devontae Smith
and also the Jalen Waddell is in that conversation for me.
I lean Smith right now.
And then – so between those two and Lamar Jackson,
I think that really is –
I think that really is the decision to be made here.
The running backs have thinned a lot.
Yeah, but I'm cool, man.
No, I know you're not.
I'm just looking at the board.
Sure.
We have a handful of teams.
Like team four has no running backs, so they've thinned out quite a bit.
I'm going to go with Devontae Smith.
It's a little, you know –
It felt like a safe, comfortable pick.
He feels a little bit safer than Jalen Waddell.
Having him with neighbors, I think, is great
because we know Devontae Smith is –
Has always been a wide receiver one when given the opportunity.
Yeah.
It's really hard to remember.
Devontae Smith, just a true dominant college player, comes in as a two.
It's great, and yet you feel like because it took so long for him to get his chance
to be the wide receiver one for the team, you're like, oh, can he do it?
Yeah.
I have no doubts that he can be a one, but yeah, the feeling is definitely unsure
because he hasn't been.
Yeah, I'm upset.
Devontae Smith, Breece Hall, Lamar Jackson.
Sorry.
Yeah, Devontae Smith, Breece Hall, Lamar Jackson, DeAndre Swift.
Devontae Smith and DeAndre Swift is probably the combo of names.
Jalen Waddell, McConkie, and Burden go next.
I shouldn't have been surprised that the Betts-Borg combo would abandon the thought
of getting a second running back when they're almost gone just to troll me
on the two picks I would have made.
I figured Ladd-McConkie.
On a normal draft would get back to me.
I should have been smarter here.
I've got to go to the wide receiver position, I think.
I do believe that Travis Aitken Jr. here is a good deal.
Bucky Irving's a good deal here.
I'm going to take Bucky and see what that looks like,
and then I'm going to come back with Devontae Adams as my first wide receiver.
Yeah, I can, like Mike's situation, I can spend the next four rounds
taking wide receivers that I like.
Burrow goes next.
Was that your disappointment, Mike?
No, not disappointment, more of the when this will happen in your draft
and you will see someone take Burrow and you go,
oh, they have Chase Burrow.
Oh, yeah, the Chase Burrow stack is a powerful thing.
That's just devastating.
We get a run of running backs, A-Chan Jr., Tootin, Henderson,
D.J. Moore off the board at 5.06.
You know, the D.J. Moore decision is going to be a big one.
Christian Watson off the board.
We talked about him at the Leader of the Pack segment.
Mike obviously had his eyes set on Christian Watson.
Oh, that would have been elite.
But it's not now.
Well, now I have to actually think about stuff.
McCaffrey, Walker, and Aversmith.
All right, let me look at my rankings here wide receiver-wise.
Guys, I would like Jamison, Pierce, Evans.
Oh, man, I hate that Evans is hurt.
I mean, I have McCaffrey.
Do I really?
I really want to invest in the substation and everything that's going on there.
I'm going to take – so I got two real strong target earners.
I'm taking Jamison Williams right here.
I want some Nitro as a wide receiver three.
Dadgummit, man.
You keep doing it.
I didn't even talk to it.
I just did it.
I know, but it's like – I wanted the neighbors, got one pick away,
and, of course, you did.
And Jamison is a player Andy's loved.
I've always been more hesitant because of that archetype of the boom-bust,
less consistent.
But I was like, this is perfect for my team.
I've got the consistency of Lamb.
I need a boom-bust.
You can blame Kurt because I would have sprinted to draft Watson.
You know, you could have just – like, you get the chance to troll him on the way back.
But you never take his players.
You keep taking –
Well, Loveland went one before me.
I took Warren.
He was more into Loveland.
I would have considered Warren there.
All right, Jamison Williams off the board.
Mike's team.
Jason's got Lamb, Jante, Skadaboo, and Warren.
You're back on the clock.
You will pick again here real quick at the turn.
Yeah, I definitely need a wide receiver.
There's some that I like here, but it's a tear down.
I'm actually going to pull the trigger.
I'm going one, two, three second-year running backs.
I'm going to take Quinshawn Judkins.
I know Mike doesn't like him, but Andy and I do.
He's looked great in camp so far, explosive.
I think that the Cleveland Browns offense will be a little bit better.
Good pick.
Yeah.
Alec Pierce goes at 5'10".
Roma Dunzey at 5'11".
As we get towards the second half of this draft,
David Mopportunity at 5'12".
I don't know how to feel about him.
I don't either.
It changes day to day.
Oh, no, Jason.
I spent a lot of this offseason being really bullish on the fact
that he will be a three-down back.
This is a team that will be in games.
They're going to win 10 games.
He might.
I believe he will, but it's possible he's not.
I just don't know if the offensive line is good enough
to allow him to get the double-digit touchdowns.
That's his upside.
His upside is he gets 10 touchdowns,
and if he does, he's going to be a great pick here.
Is their line good enough?
Carnell Tate goes at 6'03".
I love that pick by Julia.
Yeah, I probably would have taken him at my next pick.
I think he is going to be a steal if he goes anywhere 4-7.
You've gone running back, running back, tight end, running back
the last four.
Yeah, I'm really thrilled here.
I was between Judkins and Mike Evans at my last pick.
The fact that a sixth-round Mike Evans,
I still believe he has enough to give.
When he's on the field for San Francisco,
and let's say he misses three or four games, that will suck.
But when he's on the field, he's going to be good for fantasy.
He's going to score touchdowns.
Brock throws him.
They need him.
He's a red zone weapon.
I don't think there's any doubt that he is good for fantasy.
The way that you've got Devontae Adams,
an old man who's going to score a bunch of touchdowns,
as my wide receiver, too, I'm fine with Evans in the sixth.
All right, Mike, you're back on the clock.
Who's it going to be?
So I'm looking at the running back position.
You know, Price, Warren, those are the guys kind of at the top of the ADP.
I think Price is interesting here.
The value of a first-round running back should pay off right there.
And then a quick peek at the – oh.
So Jaden Daniels is still there.
That is interesting.
Yeah, we've had – so far we've had Drake May went at 6-0-1,
Kraft, Tate in this round.
Lamar's off the board.
Burrow's off the board.
So this would be the quarterback five off the board at 6-0-5.
You've got a long wait for your next pick.
And I got late-round guys I do like.
Funny enough, I thought I would be picking between Terry McLaurin, old man,
or Jordan Tyson, rookie hotness of –
Yeah, tied to Tyler Schaaf.
Yeah, Jordan as your wide receiver.
My wide receiver four seems pretty awesome.
I'm going to take Jaden here.
All right, Jaden Daniels off the board at 6-0-5.
Jadarian Price goes next.
And Jordan Tyson does finally go off the board as the wide receiver three
for Papa Josh.
Tyson's going to be a really interesting selection as well.
You know, I like Tate a lot more for year one.
But in the draft, talent-wise, I like Tyson the most.
So that situation versus talent is an interesting –
Interesting one.
It is.
It's the, you know, the Cam Ward versus Schuck.
Like the –
So, Andy, when you think about Ward and Schuck,
I know you guys aren't as in on Tyler Schuck as I am.
But, like, when you're thinking through something like Carnell, Tate, or Tyson,
which pick has the higher chance of failing?
I think it's Tyson for sure.
Okay.
Yeah, just because I –
You don't like –
Olave is the bona fide.
Number one.
You know, both of these teams didn't score a lot of points last year.
But, I mean, like –
I feel like the floor –
Cam Ward falling on his face.
I don't think he's going to fall all the way on his –
I mean, he's not going to lose his job.
No.
I think he's going to hyper-target Carnell, Tate,
and I know that the target floor is going to be there.
But I don't think it's a big difference.
I really don't.
I think Tyson, if he's on the field, I mean,
he's going to be a focal point of the offense too.
You know, we haven't even –
Probably the name we've talked about the least of anybody in this entire offseason,
for no real reason.
other than Jordan Tyson, has been Jawan Johnson.
Sure.
Who's had no conversation.
And he is getting –
He was working out with Shuck.
Well, he's getting steamed from the beat writers in New Orleans.
Like, not ADP-wise, no one wants Jawan on their team,
but he is frequently called out by, like, Underhill and Cruz.
So that's where I'm like –
I look at Tennessee, and I know it's Tate, Tate, and all Tate.
I look at New Orleans, and I say, look, you've got two good backs.
You've got a pass.
You've got a pass catching Kamara, Jawan Johnson.
Olave's going to get his.
Does it take Tyson more time?
I don't know.
I'm going to go Harold Fannin at 6'12".
Okay.
And Marvin Harrison at 7'01".
Marvin Harrison at 7'01".
I can deal with it.
Yeah.
Warren Stevenson, Harvey, and Brian Thomas Jr. go next into our seventh round.
Papa Josh is on the clock.
I thought it was Mike, but Papa Josh is sitting there deciding.
Probably missed the button with that shooting hand.
Am I right?
Chuba Hubbard.
Chuba Hubbard might be the least sexy pick in the draft, but could work out.
Michael Wilson at 7'07".
Same round as Harrison.
Mike, you're back on the clock.
It's a pretty weird –
Jason, you shook your head.
I just saw how the draft was playing out,
and I was waiting to see what happens on this pick.
Oh.
Yeah.
We'll see.
No, Mike, just do your thing.
I have no idea where you're –
Just do your thing and it'll work.
I'm not thinking about it.
No, I don't think you're trying.
I think we just agree.
Chuba is not usually going in front of Jonathan Brooks these days.
So, interesting to see how it fell there.
Brooks is still on the clock.
I don't love it.
I'm looking at the running back position because I do need –
we're in the seventh here, so I will need to start adding some depth.
Manungai and his – are we good?
Does anyone know if Manungai is good?
He is okay.
Nothing to worry about.
It's August 6th.
you got
You've got a month.
He's already back at practice, and he's got a month.
That's what I meant.
He's fine.
Is it full practice?
I don't remember what I heard.
Rico Dowdle, I think, is a fine pick here.
The last thing I read was that it looked like Rico was kind of cementing the RB1 spot.
Rico Dowdle?
Yeah.
Wow.
I've seen that one go back and forth and back and forth.
Yeah, I've seen it both ways.
I still haven't moved my rankings that way just based on that one report, but I could see it.
Jason wants me to draft Rico Dowdle.
I've got three running backs, so that would be great, but I was not saying that for that.
I was genuinely just reporting the news.
Jason, boy who cried wolf over here.
Yeah.
It's early, but feeling like what's going to happen on this turn, I might not get him,
so I'm just going to take—hold on.
I've got to find the thing.
Ja'Cory Krosky-Merritt.
I—
I—
It's getting sweatier, guys.
Yeah, you like him.
I'm getting sweatier for what's going on with Bill.
And I don't necessarily like it about myself.
Yeah, I mean, Diggs helps the offense, helps the commanders entirely.
And going with Jaden, we'll see if that works out.
This was good for me.
I really needed a wide receiver, and I feel like there's one left that I like here.
I like late wide receivers, but I'm going to take Makai Lemon.
I took the old guy last round of Mike Evans.
Take the young guy this time.
He was the next name across all positions up on my board.
Yeah, it's a good pick.
It is interesting.
Like, you'll have—you've got Lamb and Evans, and then you're going the youngster in Lemon.
Mason, Pittman, Laporta.
Devastating, Jason.
Great pick by—
Oh, you have Warren.
Cash there with Jonathan Brooks at the 8-0-1.
Sutton, Rashad White, and Jason pulling the trigger immediately on Dak Prescott.
I've been waiting.
I was wondering if Betts, who has George Pickens, would take that stack earlier.
He didn't, and if—
So that's Dak over Dart.
That's Dak over Lawrence.
Dak over Caleb.
It's entirely with the stack.
I wanted the CeeDee Lamb-Dak.
Stack.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I pulled an ADP rope-a-dope.
I let Rico go through because I thought Bill would get drafted.
Rico made it back, so I'm going to take him as my RB4 here.
All right.
Rico Dotto goes at the 8-0-5.
Jackson Dart at 8-0-6.
DK Metcalf at 8-0-7.
And unsurprisingly—or maybe surprisingly—Kyle Pitts at 8-0-8, which I think is a great deal.
Gets him about two rounds later than Fannin.
I told you I believe in Kyle Pitts.
I wasn't lying.
I'm not proud.
I'm not proud of it.
Kyle Menungi, Blake Corum.
I wanted Corum at 8-12 or 9-0-1 here.
Josh Downs off the board.
Now I have to really do some thinking here.
I'm going to take a wide receiver that will be out there every single down on an offense I'm kind of optimistic about.
I'm going to take Quentin Johnston.
Yeah.
And then I'm going to take a shot.
Now, I need to pick a rookie.
I want to pick a rookie wide receiver here.
Concepcion.
Yeah.
Stribling.
I'm going to take a shot on Stribling.
Okay.
The substation may be resilient.
Distant to youth.
I'm not sure yet.
I'm going to take Stribling as a shooter shot.
I mean, it's not because he was already banged up.
But, yeah.
Well.
Pearsall's not.
He's not young anymore.
Yeah, but he's been hurt since he got in.
Tony Pollard, Kenny Gainwell, Zach Charbonnet in the ninth round here as we get close to the end of the draft.
Al Borland on the clock with – he's got a good set of running backs on this roster.
Just took Kyle Pitts and really can't decide what to do.
I gave him time.
Yeah, you did.
He is –
Sorry, I was looking for a guy he's gone already.
You're now officially the slowest.
You should try and draft him.
Just do it verbally.
You're officially the slowest person.
Draft him verbally.
I'm definitely faster than all three of you.
We're talking –
We're doing a show.
Everybody else –
You get to noodle out all your picks.
But nobody else in the draft does.
Everybody else takes their picks.
Jaden Reed goes next.
George Kittle, Aaron Jones, and Mike, you're on the clock.
George Kittle would have –
That would have delighted you.
Yeah, that would have been my pick for sure.
I think I'm set here at the running back position.
I feel good about that four-pack.
I need a tight end in these last three picks.
Wish it was George Kittle.
Man, have you guys –
I don't think I'm going to take it, but I think it's worth the conversation.
Have you guys been reading the latest on –
Boston.
Yeah.
I was going to say David Boston, but that is –
Denzel Boston.
He's been dominating according to reports.
People are saying he might be the one.
I think that's probably hyperbolic.
I mean –
But that's –
Why wouldn't he be?
Well, because you took Concepcion in the first round.
I don't care about that.
I thought you were talking about Judy.
Oh, no.
There's room for anybody to be the one on that team,
and they certainly aren't going to –
I mean, we saw this in Green Bay years ago.
The higher-drafted wide receiver wasn't the one that established himself there.
I mean, best man for the job.
All right.
I'm taking –
I still think that Chris Godwin has a little bit –
Oh, you did it again, man.
It's a good job.
I like the pick.
I think he has something left in the tank, and I like Ibuka,
but I don't think it's crazy to say that at the end of the year,
Chris Godwin has the most targets for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I agree, and some of the reports on him have been glowing on his health
and explosiveness.
Second year off of an injury,
which multiple injuries that he gets throughout his career.
Yeah, I'm going to pull the trigger on Matthew Golden here.
Obviously, we talked about him earlier in the Leader of the Pack segment.
I think at cost, he is a value.
He's got the opportunity to be an every-down starter for a good offense.
Just please be good.
I don't think you are, but just do it.
Surprise me.
Well, the other two are off the board, right, Reed and –
No, I think Reed was still there.
No, he wasn't.
Okay.
Went at 9.05.
Caleb Williams, Justin Herbert, Romeo Dobbs, Jacoby Myers, Chris Rodriguez.
I was trying to sneak Chris Rodriguez on my team.
Oh, Tank Dell.
Tank Dell at 10.03.
Jason back on the clock.
Mike following Jason.
All right.
Wow, Tank Dell going ahead of Jaden Higgins.
I love Tank Dell, but Jaden Higgins has also been doing some good things.
I'm going to take Jonah Coleman, a player I love.
That's an interesting pick.
He's currently third on the depth chart.
Obviously, you've got –
I'm not sure he's worth a pick.
You might not think so.
But I believe that Jonah Coleman is an excellent player.
Everything that has been said recently about him is that he's basically like a veteran.
He doesn't seem like a rookie at all.
I don't believe in R.J. Harvey, and J.K. Dobbins gets injured.
Batman.
That's funny.
No?
Batman?
I don't believe – I believe in Harvey.
Aw.
Come on.
Keep up, baby.
ADP has obviously not caught up here, but I'm going to take the ultimate late-round sneaky stack here
to go.
I'm going to take the ultimate late-round sneaky stack here to go with Jaden Daniels.
I will take Stephon Diggs.
Yeah.
He will not go here in drafts, I don't think.
But also, at the same time, his ADP won't get out of control.
And he's coming off 1,000 yards.
We have Stephon Diggs off the board to Mike.
Jordan Addison goes next.
And I – now we're waiting on Josh.
Casey Concepcion off the board.
Travis Hunter goes next.
Jaden Higgins in the 10th round, back behind Tank Dale.
Trevor Lawrence and Denzel Boston.
I did want Diggs.
I'm going to take a shot on Jacoby Lane right now in Baltimore.
Oh, so hot right now.
And so, I've just been going wide receivers pretty much through and through.
I'm going to take Debo Samuel as well with my final pick.
Man, you're riding low, T.
I mean, when you have Gibbs, Jacobs, and Irving, I feel pretty good.
All right.
You know, my options at running back, I could have gone Camara or Tracy or Woody Marks.
Yeah, I'm happy with my choices.
That's fair.
Dallas Goddard, I love the pick, Kyle.
Great last round, tight end option.
Brock Purdy goes next.
Tyler Shuck in the final round here.
Camara and Marks and Hurst.
Oh, yeah!
Thank you.
I'm on the board.
Thank you, Kurt.
Ted Hurst goes in the 11th, probably just for that.
And Mike and Jason, final pick.
Mike, you have to take a tight end.
I'm going to stand up and shout.
Don Kincaid, that is a great last pick at tight end.
I'm looking for –
That's over likely.
That's over Kelsey.
It is.
I'm fine taking Travis Kelsey here, like I've said, as the floor play.
If you want a top 10 tight end, I think Travis Kelsey fits the bill for that.
But I'm trying to do a little bit better than that.
So, here I'm just swinging for the fences on a young wide receiver.
There's plenty of guys on the waiver wire I can get that could go out and get me eight points.
I'm hoping that what we've seen from Zachariah Branch, rookie wide receiver for the Falcons,
he's been making plays and the opportunity is there.
I mean, part of why you like Kyle Pitts and you're embarrassed about it is because –
There's really a big void for targets after Drake London.
All right.
That is going to round out our mock draft.
If you want to see the entire draft board, you can do that on YouTube.
My team ended up Gibbs, Jacobs, and Irving at running back.
Josh Allen's my quarterback.
Harold Fannin's my tight end.
I feel like I've got some good onesies there.
Adams, Harrison, Quentin Johnson, Stribling Lane, and Samuel at wide receiver.
I kind of like that.
I like the –
It feels kind of hero RB,
even though that's not what the strategy is, just shotgunning wide receivers later.
I started with Dak Prescott to stack with CeeDee Lamb.
My onesies, Dak and Tyler Warren.
Wide receiver, CeeDee Lamb, Mike Evans, Makai Lemon, Matthew Golden, and Zachariah Branch.
And at running back, I got the young guys, Ashton Gentry, Cam Scadaboo,
Quinshawn Judkins, and Jonah Coleman.
At running back, I got CMC, Ken Bone Walker, Bill Kroski, Merritt Enrico Dowdle.
My wide receivers are Malik Neighbors, Devontae Smith, Jamison Williams, Chris Godwin,
Stefan Diggs.
Then I got Jayden Daniels to go with Stephon Diggs,
and Dalton Kincaid is my tight end.
Yeah, you got a good deal on Daniels in the draft
and getting Diggs late as well.
A good steal there.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The hosts announce the upcoming live show, the Megalist Show in Phoenix on August 28th, with limited tickets released.
They debut a new segment, "Leader of the Pack," analyzing the Green Bay Packers' wide receiver situation, concluding Christian Watson is the top fantasy option, with Matthew Golden as a sleeper.
News updates include Stefon Diggs signing with the Commanders, Jonathan Taylor's extension with the Colts, and Josh Jacobs' groin injury.
The episode features a full 12-team mock draft, with picks like Jahmyr Gibbs at 1.01, CeeDee Lamb, Christian McCaffrey falling to the eighth pick, and late-round values like Stefon Diggs and Matthew Golden.
The hosts discuss quarterback battles (Kyler Murray vs. J.J. McCarthy), rookie wide receivers, and tight end strategies throughout the draft.
Summary:
The Fantasy Footballers podcast episode, hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright, kicks off with excitement about their live Megalist Show in Phoenix on August 28th, urging fans to grab remaining tickets. They introduce a new segment, "Leader of the Pack," focusing on the Packers' wide receiver competition. The hosts debate Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, and Matthew Golden, ultimately agreeing Watson offers the highest fantasy upside if healthy, while Golden is a promising late-round pick.
News updates cover Stefon Diggs joining the Commanders, boosting Jaden Daniels' outlook; Jonathan Taylor's lucrative extension with the Colts; and Josh Jacobs' groin injury, which raises concerns for his fantasy value. The main event is a 12-team mock draft with half-PPR scoring. 01, CeeDee Lamb, and Christian McCaffrey falling to the eighth pick.
The hosts employ varied strategies, with Mike stacking running backs like McCaffrey and Ken Walker, while Jason pairs CeeDee Lamb with Dak Prescott. Late-round highlights include Stefon Diggs as a sneaky stack with Jaden Daniels and Matthew Golden as a value pick. The episode concludes with team recaps, emphasizing the importance of targeting consistent players and taking calculated risks on high-upside rookies.
FAQs
It's a live podcast event in Phoenix, Arizona on Friday, August 28th at the Van Buren. Tickets are almost sold out, but some were released, and you can get them at BallersLive.com.
Christian Watson is the leader of the pack for fantasy football, with Matthew Golden as a high-upside second choice. Jayden Reed is less favored because he may not play in two-wide receiver sets.
Diggs signed a one-year deal worth up to $12 million, and he's coming off a 1,000-yard season. He adds stability to the offense and helps Jaden Daniels, but he's not a priority draft pick.
Jameer Gibbs is the 1.01 pick, as he's projected to score the most points, is on a great offense, and has vacated opportunities. Injuries are the only reason to reconsider.
The hosts believe Kyler Murray will win the job because he's a better player. This gives optimism for Justin Jefferson, making him a solid first-round pick.
Yes, the hosts see it as a normal ADP. Mike took him at pick eight, and it's a solid value, especially when paired with another strong running back like Ken Walker.
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