Fagprat – Når sjefen er en idiot

[Music] You are a little bit close to the podcast from Kongsbergbibliotech. My name is Roda Konelya Knutsen, and in this episode of Fagpratt, I and Kenneth, hi, look a little closer to the boss, right? Yes, let's check out the boss. So I'm in peace? Yes, because you are my boss. Yes, I am. So this can be an exciting episode, maybe I don't work... It can happen, I get a lot of thoughts about it. Yes, or that. It's a great book, we're going to write it down. I'll write it down, one called Per Henrik Stenström. Is he new to me? Yes, he's new to me, I think. But when I saw the title on the book, "Now the boss is an idiot". Yes, he took it completely out of the book, yes. So I thought it would be nice to read it. Then I'm not going to mention it. No, I don't want to see it. So what will happen at the end of the episode? Yes, it will be down there. Per Henrik Stenström, born in 1966. He is a Norwegian journalist, editor of "Fårdagshåller". It's not so unusual that these "Fårdagshåller" like to give out a book or two in the course of his career. Has he given more? It's not certain. In fact, it's at least this book. But he has had a 25-year-old experience from the media industry. So he knows a little what he's talking about. He knows a little about the boss, he does that. And he has both been in radio and TV leadership. And now he is most active in radio, communication and leadership. He has a lot of tasks. It's also a pretty common way to go when you have worked with a theme for a long time. That it goes over a sort of radio style. Yes, not like that. A little more like an expert. Yes, it can be a bit of an expert. Let's see if we can hold a meeting or a task and then travel home again. Be his own boss. Yes, not like that. Very nice. He has probably written at least one more book. Isn't that right? Yes. Because he has written the opposite of what the boss has done. So he has written "irritated colleagues". No. So he can still do that. So it's not just the boss, but it's his colleague. Yes, he has a little experience with both parts. Yes, so this is the subject of discussion. About the work environment and the required colleagues and bosses. So it's a fair book we all need to have. And this is relevant to all the rest of the people who have worked there? Yes, all of them who are at work are usually a boss or a leader or something. There are many different titles. And colleagues. And colleagues, yes. As always, the book has to continue. What is important here is that this is not a book that deals with the boss who is a psychopath, for example, or his sisters. They are really, really bad bosses. What is important here is that the boss can be known with his boss. So understand what kind of boss the boss is. Aha. And why does the boss do your job? Right away, it's a type of work environment. It will be a work environment. It will be relevant to techniques to survive the boss's work. I don't use that word. Yes. So how should a man who is on duty come through the day? That it's not just the boss who is done. But the point is that maybe you as a colleague or as a worker, maybe don't fit in exactly the boss. And what can you do to get a better job every day? Yes. And that is important for everyone, is a responsibility for a good working environment. Yes, not true, because there are a lot of people who just don't work on the boss. It's very easy to do it, because you end up taking responsibility yourself. This book here will take forward the different types, seven types, that we can go through as well. But it will explain how they behave, how they do it. Why is the boss like that? Yes. And how can you do that? The point here is that you should improve your relationship with the boss, instead of trying to fix the boss. Because she can't do that. This is often very difficult. So the book is divided into seven types. Yes, seven types of world leaders, is that the first one? Yes, seven types of leaders. And as I said, these are not really bad leaders. But there is a certain track against the boss. It can be good if you can have several tracks as well. But we start with "Bølla". Yes, there are some names. Yes, there are some names. It is a little boss "Bølla", who can be a little good, a little violent. And that is not all workers who handle, for example. It can be difficult to do. And how do you fix that? We have several others, and that is, for example, the control freak. And that is the one that fits. For example, send a mail, and then they come a minute later. Don't put your head in the engine, have you seen my mail? For example, everything fits, how he went with the details all the time. And then you also have "surre hua", a boss type, that can quickly forget a few things, forget that you have to pay, or just, yes, it will be much more "surre". Which of course is very similar to a boss type, who has a very high degree of need for order and systematic, and that everyone meets up a minute before meeting, for example. Of course, it collides with you completely. Yes, and it is these collisions that create cracks. Absolutely. We have four types, and that is the world class. And that is the boss who should be the best in everything. That sounds a bit like it. Yes, yes, I can think of that. And he should then, yes, if someone, for example, works a little extra, there is no problem then, work in the world class, work 2 hours, add to that. So that should always be better, if you have a report on ten pages, he should have a report on ten pages, he should be the best in everything. If it is, for example, a summer party and there are a few doctors, he should win. It is just to show that he is the best. Because if he means, it is important that the boss goes before him as a good example. Yes, and he has taken it to another level. Yes, right, that is what is the problem here, when things go to another level. Because if you have a little of all these types, it is not dangerous, but it is the extreme versions that can be a problem then. Yes, absolutely. Then we also have the cos-general. Very funny name. Yes, that is the boss who takes care that work should be nice. It should only be cos, it should not be the concentration, it should not be bad news. It should be cos all the time. Everyone should have it good. And then we can quickly agree that it will not be as good as it is, because you always have to take care of something. Yes, and then you hear a little ineffective. Yes, if there are a lot of weapons, because here we do not have to work, we have to be a little careful and so on. It can be a lot of that. That's the name. Then we also have the incompetent boss, who actually can not do anything about things of his own. It is also a little bit like that. Absolutely, it is a lot to take care of. It is not that, here there are actually two differences, it becomes a little bit of a control freak in a way. Maybe try to control everything too much again, but it is incompetent or let everything slide out completely again. And none of the parts are so good, if it is too violent. So you also have the "slipping" that maybe takes a little bit of honor and is quite a bit of a "slipe" over the place. It is not possible. No, that's not true. It is not a good job of a boss like that. No, why not if it is one who takes the honor from others? That's not true, it is not good. No, I have thought about it, but you have taken it from this, is that the Christmas dinner was good. Yes, yes, absolutely, you are just a little bit of everything, this is good. Because the point here is that all seven, or maybe not all seven, but several of them, are really well meant. It is the boss who thinks that they do a good job, that it is important what they do. But it is just a little too much for simple workers. And then the point is that they give you tips and tricks on how to understand, why the boss feels like that, and what you are going to do. Because maybe it is not comfortable to confront the boss, but these things here. No, and it is often not necessarily so frugal at all, to go, "Hey, you are incompetent". It may not necessarily be so well done, but then you have to, I do not remember all the details here, but on some of them, maybe it was, for example, an incompetent, then you just get the answer yourself. Then you get to work a little more yourself, and then you get to report back to the boss, "Now I'm done with that, the same is that". And then, yes, then it will be like that, your way of fixing that. Instead of fixing the boss, you fix your way of working on it. And because that is a problem, you can actually do something more. Yes, yes, all these types of things, you can work with, and if you do not work, then you just have to move to work. And to get a person to change is very difficult. Yes, and if everyone works in the workplace, it is like they want to work there. Yes, that is true. So if you find out that this has become terrible, then you get it, there is something else. Yes, the outer consequence is that you get to find a different workplace, a different boss, that you fit better together with. Yes, because personal chemistry is personal chemistry regardless of where you are. That is true, yes, absolutely. So you do not get to do as much with it. But is it like, for example, a cosy general, where they can fix a boss like that? Oh, yes, I do not remember exactly where you, I mean, you should not fix the boss. The cosy general is often to be held on, actually. But you should learn to live together with a cosy general. Yes. Which is also that everyone should have it well. And I think the biggest problem with a cosy general can be if you get hugs between colleagues, for example. And the cosy general does not want to take it up, because everyone should have it well. Yes, then we take a little more weapons. Yes, not true, try to solve with weapons. Or a cake, or an excursion tour, get better known, and the thought is good. But it may be that it may have to be a bit more aggressive, that it may have to have a bit of a rough personal conversation, or other things. Which maybe the cosy general will most likely not be able to do. The book comes with tips and suggestions, which one can say specifically to these different types of leaders. To clarify something, or point something, or at least express your own opinion, that it is not 100% right. Yes, it is quite concrete, and what one can say, or what one can just do. For some of them, it is not recommended to take it up. No, of course not. It is just... It is quite clear. Yes, as the world leader, he will never understand why he should not be the best. No. He means that he is right, to draw and load, and the others should follow. And then there is one point, that I am starting to get better than him, or dog, if I need to be a man. And that is to find other things to compete with, so that you know you are better. So that the world leader will see that they are going, and that they can be better than me, so that they can learn a little bit about the way. Yes, yes, sneak into a downer. Yes, yes, sneak into the victory, or something like that. Do not try to beat the world leader in his own game, because he will win, for example. But he will be, for example, "Rogo" in block-flying games. Yes, exactly. Yes, or something like that, that the vice-chef can have a bit of a bind. Yes, yes, absolutely. Yes, but that is useful tips and tricks to have, is that it? Yes, is there something you know, Jenny? That is maybe dangerous, and so on. That is maybe something you don't think about. No, I think that most of them, as you say, have a track of each individual type. But that it is very useful, with these main types, to be aware that there should not be too much of something. Yes, exactly. That there should not be too much in one category, because then you can see what the leaders are responsible for. The others can be responsible for their personalities and relationships. Because we all have blind spots, and we are not born with the opportunity to see ourselves objectively all the time. So we have to learn to reflect around our own characteristics, and then this is useful in every way, also for a leader. Absolutely, it is absolutely good for a leader to read us. Yes, and leaders also have leaders. Yes, that's right. Yes, because you can't just make your own leaders, if you also have leaders for others. No, but it all depends on each other. And on a larger workplace, which is a community, it is often a pregis of a leadership style that comes from a place. Absolutely. So it's now time to put it into a community as well. It's very important. But shouldn't you say that books fit? Well, I would say that it fits a lot. As we mentioned that it fits a person who has some responsibility with the boss. Especially, that's what books are most written for. And that's actually regardless of where you work, or where you work with. As long as you have a boss, and if you have a little problem with that boss, then read the book. Try to understand. And then you can find out if this is something I can change myself on. Yes. Or should I find something else to do? I don't think it's the right branch of this book, even if the person who has written it has the most experience from me in the branch. No, it can be used in absolutely everything. But it's very nice that it's clear to free your own experiences in that way. Yes. Yes, so it fits very well. And that is of course very relevant, because those who feel misunderstood, or overlooked, or even controlled by their leaders. Yes. To try to understand. It can be that you have a psychopathic leader. Then you have to read other books, because it's completely different. Or maybe I'll find a better job. Yes, or yes. It's more serious. Yes. So this is not so serious. And as we mentioned, it also fits for the leader himself. If they want insight into their own skills, they can influence their job. For example, when I read, I see that I might be a bit against control-free. I could have been a little fit for everyone to do everything right. And then I know that, ok, now I'm sitting on that, I send the mail, and I'm sitting on that it's okay. Yes, they read it themselves. Yes, and they actually fix it. I don't have to follow the mail. I don't have to follow that it's right. I'm just sitting on that it's right. And that's an exercise that both the leader and the employee can actually do often. Yes, not like that. And it's easy for each other. Yes, that's right. The working environment is built around that. It's just to look at it a little. And it's clear that it's easy and you can get lost a little too. Because there are people who get a little broken. And then it can take time to build up again. But that's what you have to try to have a little in the child. Yes, that's very important. No, I don't think the world's most beautiful people meet me that well. So I don't think I'm that much there. I hope I'm at least there. But no, I see that it can be both have a tendency to a lot here. Yes, it can be absolutely. Maybe you have to read the books. Maybe you have to read the books. Right or wrong. Yes, that's not so stupid. Yes, when H is on personal, it can be good to read the books. I think it's very useful. They often have to read a lot of such books all the time. But if you haven't read them, then yes. Yes, because they handle everything from the author and the board when it comes to the leader and the author. Absolutely. It's not true. They're on both sides, so the current book. And they should be able to both understand each other. So that's important to you. Yes. So you can conclude that everyone who has a job. Yes. So long as you have a boss. If you have set up your own company and work for yourself. Maybe not so often. Yes, because someone has a job at home. But less you are a boss. Yes. But you work all alone. Yes. But if it's the same, then it can be right. Yes. You learn a bit about yourself. It's something with that. Your face is never wrong. So, of course, the language is quite simple. It's humorous and very direct. It uses a lot of concrete examples. And if you want an academic approach to this problem, then it's a bit too basic, can you say? Yes. It's a bit of a problem. Yes. This is what I think. Yes. But it's very simple and easy if you want a thing through the process. And it does work well. Yes, I think it works logically when you write. Yes. Yes, but that was a clear suggestion to everyone who has a job. Yes. A job. When the boss is an idiot, then there is a stream. And of course we have it here at the library. Absolutely. Just come in and borrow it. Yes. Thank you for the tips, Kenneth. You're welcome. You've now reached a podcast from Kongsberg Bibliothek. My name is Roda Konellak-Nutzenau. Thank you for following me this time. [BLANK_AUDIO]