Face Smashing w/ Hammers & Painfully Stretching Private Parts To Get Hot - Dark Side of Looksmaxxing

i will say it's quite unclear who the saying it can always be worse is meant for like is it supposed to be uplifting don't complain about your weak jawline it can always be worse you could have big doe eyes instead of sexy hunter eyes how will people know that you're a predator and not a prey or is it just supposed to be dismissive your complaint does not match this imaginary threshold i've created in my mind about the amount of distress you can be in so quit complaining either way it can always be worse it's not very productive nor is it a very helpful comment to ever make like what does that even mean a girl named live is very suspicious that her boyfriend for the past eight months has been cheating on her but it can always be worse right but what if it's as bad as it can possibly get what if there is no worse this is the bottom then what do you say live and mason have been together for about eight months and she has this gut feeling that he is cheating on her enough so that she either wakes up or stays awake until seven in the morning and she notices that he's asleep in bed next to her which side note how dare he rest and that's not sarcasm i'm being very serious how dare he slumber he's snoozing away live reaches over and there is only one way to find out if he's cheating on her which is go through his phone what else is there to do she starts going through it his messages his most recent chat history and within the next hour or so live hastily packs some of her things practically makes a run for it she leaves without waking him up she doesn't even seem to leave a note nothing she just gets out of there because live went in there with the suspicion that he was cheating on her which sure it can always be worse but what she finds in his phone is the quote worse it doesn't get worse from here this is the worst thing that could be found on his phone and she has all the evidence she's going to the police with it and she's going to the police with it and she's going to the police with it and he hasn't been discreet about it either i mean usually when you combine a profile picture of breasts with an unknown user on telegram yeah your girlfriend is probably going to go through the chat history i'm not sure what live was expecting perhaps the worst or at least the worst that she and probably most others can imagine which like maybe he's cheating maybe he's talking to an of model and he's giving away their shared money that they were saving to buy a house so he could get more pictures of said breasts maybe it's his mom's profile picture and this is a very normal occurrence in their family like i don't know it can always be worse right she clicks open the chat the unknown user is messaging her boyfriend mason cp teens and all group links available which package are you interested in and what's your budget wait who's texting this this unknown telegram profile with boobs is texting her boyfriend okay which is alarming right but it could always be a scam it could be a spam message a fisher but her boyfriend mason responds cp 25 max they respond okay i get quality cp mega link with large good files of 2500 hd video files live is reading as the two of them start going down the path of talking about how the payment is going to be secured her boyfriend that's laying right next to her is sending pictures showing that the payment went through and that's not the only message she clicks another comment and she's like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so that her boyfriend initiates with a suspicious user her boyfriend starts the conversation hi the other party responds cp content available her boyfriend asks how much and they respond twenty dollars for videos thirty dollars for mega links forty dollars for joining cp group eighty dollars for all of the above her boyfriend mason seemingly voices his pick by texting back okay twenty dollars he is then redirected to message another user which has some variation of like trusted seller in their username so that's promising he's told to message him to get a link for the content the boyfriend messages them april 27th and the next day presumably after getting the link he asks for more content and states that he's willing to pay ten dollars she clicks on one of the links and she later describes to the police she saw little girls between the ages anywhere between six to like ten years old and some as young as three years old toddlers this is the case of mason hull and her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend who is a tiktok influencer looks maxer to be exact who was exposed by his ex-girlfriend for purchasing c-sam and all of his bizarre excuses and why there are still a small but strong group of people that support him so we would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for rotten mango to support neck mech the national center for missing and exploited children they are the nation's largest and most influential child protection organization this episode's partnerships have also made it possible to support rotten mango's team of dedicated researchers and we'd also like to thank our listeners for your continued support as always full show notes are available at rottenminglepodcast.com today's case involves mentions of a woman who was raped by a man who of illicit drug usage that's forced misogynist rhetorics essay see sam please prioritize your own health take a break if you need to statements and quotes may be condensed for brevity and with that in mind let's begin it is um it's kind of like a horror movie so you picture a high school guy named norm he's not um he's not like the most conventionally attractive person out there but like objectively speaking i guess you could say that norm has he has troubled skin his skin is full of acne and blemishes he's not ripped or jacked like the high school jocks his jawline is non-existent thanks to his very hungry appetite like he's on the shorter side his eyes are dark brown his shoulders are slumped god his fucking shoulders are very slim is what norm would say and his neck is way too skinny and he's got big doe ass eyes like little bambi caught in some headlights that's what norm looks like norm is every normal teenage high school boy and he decides that he is going to ask out his crush his one true love a girl named becky who he believes he has a very good chance at because they're both not they're both not that popular they're not the most conventionally attractive they're kind of the outcast norm asks becky to go to prom with him but becky becky the bitch doesn't just reject him she chuckles in his face she goes around telling everyone he gives her the creeps and she's so flabbergasted that he would even fathom the idea that they could ever be together for such an important event like prom this sends norm over the edge he grabs a hammer a used home depot hammer from his parents garage and he starts hitting his face with the hammer he starts taking substances to stay awake and lose weight he's barely consuming enough calories to survive he slips in insoles into his shoes he finds testosterone on the black market from some random suspicious third-party retailer that is definitely not a doctor or a licensed pharmacist and he starts taking testosterone and steroids he starts pulling at his face snorting lines of accutane he's probably just taking the pills but that's being dramatic and now he has transformed he has ascended they say from norm to chad light and now when he walks by becky the bitch in the hallways all she can do is leave a trail of drool like a snail trail because she is so mesmerized by his masculinity by his appearance by his looks but norm i mean chad light now walks right past loser becky in the hallway and straight up to the blonde hot cheerleader stacy and asks her how she's doing she of course says yes but nothing else because hot girls should never speak duh you know that's what makes them hot and they ride off into the distance writing each other except not really because chad light has erectile dysfunction from all the substances he's been pumping for his transformation but that's not the point the point is he has mogged everybody welcome to the wet dreams and inner ramblings and fantasies of a looks maxer do i think that's their fanfic basically and i'm not even gonna say that i'm not even like joking with you they write on forums like this say this right yeah that's wow do i think that everyone in the looks maxing community thinks like this probably not do i think that there's enough people that think this way that it's almost become a meme absolutely now i do want to make a quick disclaimer as a girl who went through an ugly phase in high school and is probably still in like the tail end of said ugly phase just i'm just getting old enough not to really care about it i do have a lot of sympathy for people who are not going to be overwhelmed by societal pressure to change their appearance and meet some sort of arbitrary beauty standard that is most likely not even attainable nor is it healthy in the long run i don't judge a single person who gets consumed over their appearance i don't think it's vain in the slightest i think it's very understandable pain to look at yourself in the mirror and not be happy with what you see i think everyone can relate to that however sometimes i think people's reasonings behind why they're doing such drastic things for their appearance is a little silly goofy if it's to show becky the bitch from high school that you're better than her it's just kind of weird i also think that if you're out here peddling all these methods you call them to children on how they can not be ugly and keep mogging and you're just like giving harmful advice such as blunt force trauma to the face via a hammer i think it's free game to openly shit on those individuals if their net impact is a net negative to their audience like yeah maybe we should dissect some of their little thought patterns so with that let's get into the looks maxing. It's very hard to pinpoint you know looks maxing is difficult to define at face value it's just the idea that you need to take care of yourself because we live in a society where things like pretty privilege exist so take care of your health eat healthy do your skincare be hygienic which i don't think inherently seems like a bad thing at all in fact i do think if you can afford it and you're able-bodied self-grooming is not a bad idea like it's probably a very good thing to adopt however looks maxing is just not just that they take it a step further where they have decided that not only are looks the most important thing in your life but also there are only a few set of traits that are considered attractive everything else you might as well roll around and dog shit and call it a day because you're never going to be considered hot one looks maxer states first impressions are visual not verbal so you're literally being judged before you even say anything think about when you see an attractive person out in public on the train or something your brain is literally making assumptions your perceiving who they are as a person before you even talk to them it takes an extreme level of willpower and critical thinking to not judge someone based on how they look at first glance i know a lot of you people are probably coping you know thinking people don't do that it's literally hardwired into our psychology i believe looks maxing is the future i don't know if he's like fucking running for office okay but let me say this i think that it might be a trend currently at the moment but i think something so hardwired into our brain and rooted into our biology is not going to leave i think that we just all of a sudden understood the importance recently of this and it's only going to get bigger and bigger he says that looks maxing can be broken into two groups appeal and psl appeal is literally maximizing how attractive you are in the real world and to others whereas psl is maximizing your online little psl score of how attractive you are objectively by measurements that are made in looks maxing forums psl what does that stand for psl what does that stand for we're gonna get there yeah it gets crazy so i looked into it it ranges from zero to eight okay eight being high psl doesn't stand for anything that's going to be enlightening so to everyone's surprise it does not stand for pumpkin spice latte it actually stands for pua hate which was a back then online forum pua hate yeah pickup artist hate i was thinking pickup artist hate they must be for the girls yeah sign me up i want to be on that forum um it is now like a defunct forum and they hated pickup artists not because they stand for women and not manipulating women but they said that pickup artists are online schemers who sell ugly boys courses and it doesn't matter how charismatic or funny you are because girls only like hot chads so it will never work all right the boys are fighting yeah the boys are fighting by themselves on who's uglier it's so weird then there's another one slut hate lookism psl yeah but now they've relabeled it perceived sexual level scale but it originally stood for this is like the incel looks maxing initial three trifecta forums that existed like this is before reddit well i don't know if reddit was around but this is before like instead of you used to go to pu hate.com versus like r slash pu hate you know what i mean pua hate but yeah psl perceived sexual level scale here's the scale you have to judge the face based off of four categories harmony how well your features work together dimorphism how distinct you look from the opposite sex angularity how sharp you look so low body fat and miscellaneous which is your individual features such as eyebrow thickness skin clarity nasolabial folds color contrast nose shape teeth hair the lowest tier is 0.25 to 1.5 in psl ranking that tier is called the lowest tier and the lowest tier is subhuman so they're like straight to the chase they don't really beat around the bush only one in two thousand people make it into the lowest tier which is described as individuals falling within this category are exceptionally unattractive and often exhibit deformities revealing their face could genuinely frighten people and they have almost no redeeming facial qualities and that quote real cause of medical and surgical consultation then you have 1.5 to 3 which is a low tier normie normie psl ranking that tier is called subhuman so they're like straight to the being a mediocre bitch basically okay one in seven people fall into this category i genuinely don't know how the math adds up but here we are right i don't think looks maxers are known for their mathematical abilities individuals falling into this category possess an ordinary level of unattractiveness you're just like regular ugly they might face bullying due to their appearance generally considered ugly in real life but nothing serious great so not seriously ugly just like moderately ugly love it then you have 2 to 4.5 which is the mid-tier normie one in two people fit in this standard according to who the fuck knows and it is described as individuals belonging to this group are entirely average they epitomize the common person while they might be seen as unattractive by a few in truth they are simply ordinary then you have 4.5 to 5.5 tier the high tier normies individuals falling into this group are typically seen as appealing and good-looking often being among the most attractive individuals in a classroom or a school so tell me why in this example list for this tier some mashed potato for brain looks maxer placed photos of michael b jordan and zendaya as high tier normies i don't know what the looks maxers have against michael b jordan because another one rated michael b jordan they said actually he's 3.5 he's quote super facially challenged which is not what superficially yeah yeah it's not what any woman alive thinks especially after the movie sinners but like okay sure then you have the tier above the five to five five five point five to six chad light individuals falling into this category experience an advantage in their lives do they ever show their own face um usually not okay usually not yeah yeah yeah of course not so in my head they just look like a fucking giga chad yeah i'm just like okay sure like you look like the drawing not a real giga chad like the drawing of the giga chad yeah yeah and they say um advantage in their lives due to their looks huge advantage their appearance can potentially launch a modeling career or lead to a substantial following on social media above that is six to seven point two five these are the real chads not the fucking diet version not the light the reels individuals belonging to this category would easily stand out in a crowd often possessing at least one striking feature if not more they typically encounter no difficulties with attracting romantic partners unless facing severe mental health issues their looks serve as an extreme advantage in various aspects of their lives then there's 7.25 to 7.75 to 8 the giga chads widely recognized for their exceptional looks characterized by extremely minimal flaws such as slightly unideal eye spacing or subtle variations in brow color and nose shape these individuals are rare with only a handful found globally they are considered the elite of the modeling world due to their near perfect features then you have the terra chads 7.75 to 8 anything in this category is impossible attaining this level is virtually impossible no one can achieve absolute perfection or universal attractiveness to every woman worldwide this destination is reserved for mythical features like adonis or apollo it's like a lot okay the arbitrary rankings are just a whole bunch of nonsense that has looks maxers whipping you down and then you have the terra chads 7.75 to 8 anything in this category is impossible attaining this level of perfection or universal attractiveness to every woman worldwide this destination is virtually impossible out adobe photoshop to get facial measurements on someone's face for example ideally the width of the eye should be three times its vertical height like now we're all asian you know have you seen those people put the chad yes like the photoshop people's face into like a full uh you know perfect face yes and then they all look so weird so gross yes that's what the looks maxers want that's what they dream about the symmetry for some has almost become like an obsession the face has to like have facial symmetry that abide by the facial thirds rule i guess if you want to have a chance at feeling a cuddle from like a fellow warm body you have to have like perfectly thirds it's got to be imaginary thirds okay each segment must occupy one third of the face's total height forehead is a third this part is a third your lower part needs to be a third and it's not just the only random test out there there's also the very very real very i mean everybody abides by the because of course we do the smv that stands for sexual market value which takes into your account your job your popularity your weight height facial rating to figure out your value in some sort of horned up farmer's market this is exactly what happens when i go out with my girlfriends we sit there and i say what the fuck is his smv let's calculate right now bring out your calculator because we're dumb and we don't know how to do math because we're just girls like what are you talking about looks maxing and looks maxers seem to be part of the manosphere the red pill black pill if you will if you've ever if you've ever been confused just know that if you click on a live stream and it must be a live stream it cannot be like a video and it's not taking place in a hotel convention center and you just see a bunch of dudes in a nightclub modern house in Los Angeles or Miami. It's typically one of those two cities. And it's a bunch of white guys wearing suits, holding cigars while flashing their watches and Cuban link chains. And you realize that they're not attending any sort of formal event that would require a suit. They did not just get back from a wedding or some sort of work convention. This is the event. The live stream is the event. They just look like a fucking butler from the Ritz in Paris. You're probably stumbling upon some looks maxers to some degree. And more often than not, they can be considered part of the manosphere. They all just feed into each other's pipelines, the pill pipeline. Which drug would you like? There's a lot of pills. We know the main ones, red, blue, black. OK, so the pill color indicates basically like how much are you getting? OK, back to the live stream. Yes. So there are a bunch of guys dressed in suits with holding a cigar, sitting around a table or standing there. So sometimes they sit around the table and it's a juxtaposition of the men in suits in like gaming chairs and like roll around office chairs. And they're all like sitting in a semicircle and then where the other half of the circle, the live stream camera. Or sometimes it's like IRL live stream. Someone's following the whole mansion and they're all just like standing on the balcony. You can see the city of angels behind them and they've got a cigar. They're streamers? Yeah, they're streamers. And like it's just a bunch of dudes. You don't see a woman in sight and they just. Talk about women. Oh, yeah, I see. Yeah, I've actually never seen that even like as a clip before. Is that a big trend or. You know, I I went to the depths of really messing up my algorithm for this one. OK, I didn't see any casually until this, but it seems like they're popular. Are their audience mostly men then? Yes. OK. Yeah. It's like a circle jerk. And like when I I mean, you're going to know these people. It's. It's like I don't know what his name is. I forget his name. I just feel like he's. Can't say that on camera, but I forget his name, but like the Tate brothers hang out with them. It's like the manosphere. I see. Are they look maxers or. Yes, they are considered. Manosphere is looks. Maxers are like a subset of the manosphere. Not all looks. Maxers are part of the manosphere. It's like not all Christians go to church. Right. But. Do they call themselves. Look. Maxers. Yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think the Tate brothers do. Do you have to look certain way to call yourself look maxer? I mean, probably because you might get laughed at if you don't think the Tate brothers are just criminals. But I see. I see. OK. Yeah. All right. So those live streams got it. Yes. Also, if you want a video on the Tate brothers, let me know, because while I was going down the whole rabbit hole, I did see their arrest footage. And I just want to say one thing and one thing. And that is that the Tate brothers are not criminals. They're just like, OK, I'm going to give you one thing and one thing only. And this is my only opinion right now that I'm going to give you. I don't even think I own a pair of pants that tight, even in my hoeyest of ho days. Never. It's cutting off circulation. It's basically like compression pants. He's going like, is he trying to get on a plane? Anyway, the pill color indicates how strong the misogyny coursing through the veins is and probably is a direct correlation of how often you get laid. I'm only half kidding, but not really. Red pill appears to be how it all started. It's from the movie, The Matrix, which is like a movie you cannot watch anymore without having incels talking about it. If you take the red pills, you've watched the movie, red pill, blue pill. If you take the red pill, that means you have woken up to the system of the real world where you realize women have the advantage and female oppression is a myth. Typically, women are manipulative, lying, scheming creatures who really only care about status and looks. And they will tell you that they want someone with a good personality, but in reality, they just want a rich Chad with a fat wallet who walks like it's heavy. That's it. Blue pill means a man who has not woken up to his reality. A lot of red pillers think that blue pillers are doormats putting women on pedestals. They haven't taken the red pill yet. They're just a bunch of bozos. And then you have the purple pill. Usually someone who is both red and blue pill, they agree with aspects of both sides, but they're not as aggressively like one or the other. They, yeah. And then you have the black pillars and they seem to be where a lot of the looks maxers fit in. So red pill is typically synonymous with incels. Okay. Black pill too, but black pillars have this, they do have intimate relations. It seems however sparse. I believe black pillars believe that the system is too far gone to change. This is just how life is and how life is going to be forever. Looks are at the center of everything and there's no way to change it. But looks maxers within the black pill community, instead of taking on the very nihilistic approach of, well, then what's the point of trying? They aggressively try. They do everything to change how they look so they can bring up their sexual market value. And for them, women are just numbers to be conquered that will enforce their SMV. So do they care about anything else besides look? Do they care about like. Same aura? No, but like substance, like. Substance abuse, yes. But not. No personality. Okay, okay. They believe that women don't care for personality. Oh, like brain, personality, nothing. Just appearances. No, they think women care about looks first and then fame, status, and money second. And then nothing else really. That's interesting. Wow. They think looks is. Okay, I mean, it makes sense to them, but wow. But not sense to anyone else because I feel like we've had this conversation too. We were talking to a bunch of. Yeah, we were like, oh yeah, what do you guys categorize? And like pretty much every girl I know is like, oh yeah, personality. I just need them to be fucking funny. Yeah, it's interesting. Now, looks maxing is a term that was developed in the early 2010s on, like I said, openly misogynistic forms like peeway hate, slut hate, lookism. It's technically an ideology that appearance is the end-all be-all. Just based off how you look, it's going to dictate who you date, how much money you make, and pretty much every other aspect of your life. Now, I will say I do have some like level of sympathy for looks. Look smaxers in the sense of I think they're like feeling what girls feel. Of like, damn, people will judge my looks before they judge anything else. That kind of sucks. So I understand and I think it is a very miserable place to be. But I do think the hatred that's placed on women is probably not great. That's the part where I'm like, oh, you're losing us. You're losing lots of people. It's kind of getting weird and violent and scary. Interesting. Yeah. But just know that the looks maxing, black pill, red pill pipeline is very alive and well. It's being maintained every single day by some chiseled chads who on the internet dream about live streaming with the likes of the Tate brothers wearing booty tight trousers that you will only see in West Hollywood at the gay bars. Someone on Reddit describes it like this. Blue pill. They tell you, just be yourself and a girl will date you. Red pill. Just have game. Otherwise, they don't care. Black pill. Just be hot. Purple pill. Just be a little bit of everybody. Blue pill with moderation. And the best way to be the king of the looks maxers, the king of the black pills, is to mog. Mog so hard you don't remember a time where you were not mogging. It all starts and ends with mogging. According to Clavicular, more on him later, one of the biggest moggers on the internet, poster child for looks maxers, he says mog comes from A-M-O-G, an acronym which he states used to stand for alpha male of the group. But now they just shortened it to mog. It means, it means you out hot whoever you're standing next to. The looks maxers take it so seriously, they have world war mogs. They have a place called mog warts. It's a paid course where they teach you how to be the moggiest of moggers. So you can forever mog. Okay. How do you do that? I didn't pay. It's $50 a month, honey. Oh. Yeah. You can height mog. It just means you're taller than whoever you're standing next to. Frame mog. You're more jacked than the person you're standing next to. Neck mog. You've got a wider neck. This is a good thing. The wide neck epidemic needs to be studied in the future. There are pictures that looks maxers will show you what the perfect neck looks like. Just think of your neck to be the exact width of your face. It's a lot of neck. It's just like a tree trunk implanted under your chin. Decapitation is a far away worry for any real looks maxer because their neck is just a behemoth. One person says a big problem that I see with a lot of guys is their neck is simply too skinny compared to the size of their head because it's too small. Their entire facial harmony and facial masculinity is thrown off, which makes them less attractive. Also, they need to do eye corner pulling, which if you do in public, I'm going to call you racist. But it's just like where you do this. Okay. It's like you stretch the sides of your eye and they say this is something that is meant to train the muscles around your eyes over time, teaching those muscles to hold your eyes in a sharper position. It will essentially allow you to achieve more hunter-like eyes over time. They want your eyes to look predatory. Do they look predatory? No. These looks maxers just look like they're fucking squinting. Like it's too bright in the room and they're squinting all the time. Hunter eyes. I mean, they're supposed to be deep set in the face. No upper eyelid exposure. Studies apparently, they cite random studies. Okay. Have shown that individuals with hunter eyes are generally perceived as more attractive. They say. be careful though with the hunter eyes exercises because the skin around the eyes is very thin and sensitive ophthalmologists have come forward to say don't do that don't even try doing that but okay you must also mew to the gods it's your sacrifice that you must make to the deities one looks maxer says mewing is a must we should all be mewing 24 7 so you know what mewing is right the tongue has to sit on the roof of your mouth and it makes your jaw more chiseled apparently it's the correct tongue placement i don't know a lot of this stuff is just silly goofy stuff that the girly pops invented and guys have rebranded it infringed upon our girly trademarks and renamed it something that sounds more masculine so they don't feel gay why they do a nine step skincare routine god forbid he did but he's been more open to it these days nevertheless they're mewing they're doing skin care they're also just like doing color theory they say your teeth should match the whiteness of your eye whites because if it's whiter than that you look uncanny you look unnatural freaky color theory but color theory nonetheless but also for men the mouth has to be wide if not wide there's no point in even opening your mouth to talk if you don't have a wide mouth worry not it's not entirely hopeless you still have a chance at living a meaningful life and contributing to society you could always get a mouth expander or perhaps a doctor but why have a doctor do it when you have a pair of scissors and a roll of gauze at home really yeah are people doing that i would say joker yeah but more so at the doctor's office does it work i actually don't see it a lot with the mouth as much as i see it with the eyes it's actually a pretty common procedure um in other countries to cut the sides of your eyes to make a bigger white a wider eye a bigger eye yeah and again i say i think a lot of people watching can relate to the misery that is trying to be conventionally attractive so this is not me trying to be snarky or say like look at them trying to be hot when like we're all trying to be hot and we're all failing miserably it's just the way they go about it is a little weird and the way that like i think also maybe i'm not conveying correctly if you take too judgmental right they're too yes too judgmental to each other and to kids who go on the forum like 14 year old boys and on top of that all of this angst that they have of feeling conventionally attractive is directed straight into hatred for women yeah it's so empowering it's negative yeah yeah so that's why we're poking fun it's not because it's like snarky like haha look at them they're pathetic like we're all pathetic right but it's just brutal there's subreddits like r slash true rate me and people will post pictures of themselves to have anonymous but most likely guys that smell like wet moldy towels and a greasy keyboard rate some of the prettiest people i've seen and they say oh you're a 6.2 on a good day with makeup and i'm like that person could be on a tv show they tell other people seemingly underage boys that they're not mogging hard enough and they should chew on a towel which is a thing it's called towel chewing towel pulling or whatever and you bite on a towel so you can train your jaw you add stress to your masseter muscles to make your jawline look sharper and again i can't even judge that because there are lots of people who get masters botox to make their jaw look slimmer but it's just i would never advise an underage person to do that there's towel maxing thumb pulling where you put your thumbs on the roof of your mouth every single day a few times a day and you pull because you're trying to pull out the upper palate because the last thing you want the last thing a looks maxer wants is your lower face to be recessed like a mouth breather they say okay yeah interesting so when you're not trying to rearrange your face you're also gym maxing so you can rearrange your body and a very important message if you're gym maxing is you must post photos of yourself gym maxing which results in the looks maxing community to just be filled with guys posting thirst traps shirtless thirst traps flexing their neck muscles sucking in their cheeks they love sucking in their cheeks to get like a defined jawline yeah like they're sucking on a straw or something else so hard that their cheeks are like starting to cave in yeah yeah yeah just muscle memory looks kind of weird no i think it looks so weird so bizarre yeah and then it's just a bunch of guys commenting on those thirst traps talking about how chad the original poster is how good they look it's almost by definition i don't think we could get closer definitionally to a circle jerk filled with a bunch of guys and you rarely ever see girls in that circle jerk except when the looks maxer want to be easier talking about how the girls are going to love how chad someone is look i don't know can i just say if you're young and you're insecure about the way you look looks maxing is probably not the right way to go or at least the way it looks right now aside from a few most of the looks maxers have this very uncanny valley look to them where they just look like wannabe cosplayers who escape from comic-con which side note i think cosplayers are typically very hot but the looks maxers are so stiff like the cosplayers are cool and they're fun and they're just like the way they express themselves artistically is so attractive to see right but then looks maxers they walk weird and they're always posing and sucking in that you just feel very uncomfortable watching them because they look so conscious about how they look and then you start feeling their insecurities and you just want to leave because you feel uncomfortable it's just weird one looks maxer says it does not just stop at looks though okay status fame aura connections are a huge part of the looks maxing journey and maybe just because you're a look maxer you're not a look maxer you're not a look maxer but just as important equally as important is something they call banana maxing yeah you never thought we'd get here right banana maxing is making your banana the best in the market of your pants one looks maxer gives the advice weight loss can help reduce the fat pad under there which can make your banana look a whole lot better and there are vacuum tools out there devices that you can use to temporary gain they use the word banana no oh okay yeah there's also um this like so they use pumps it's like a vacuum right i always thought those were like for activities i always thought people were getting those like because they're into certain scenes right but turns out looks maxers are a huge market yeah i don't know where they're hiding it but they just whip them out during live stream i think clavicular has like a whole collection of them yeah they're giving advice they're doing youtube videos then there's the suspender bungee rope contraption you can wear if i'm not mistaken you attach something to your knee or some way down there and then the other part is attached to your banana and it's like a bungee cord down to your knee so it's like trying to pull gravity down on your banana and you're supposed to wear it all day under your pants just uncomfortable absolutely okay unbearable pain fingers crossed it's not does it work some claim after a year of wearing this torture device every single day they have noticed about an inch of difference in a single year so i mean how long to get to eight right maybe seven years who knows have they put it to good use i don't know i imagine it's very sore i don't even know if you could use it but what do i know and again i think it's weird because and i'm not making fun of it i also have very i had insecurities about intimate parts of my body and i it's not like me shaming people for having those thoughts i just think it's weird because i've never met a girl who cared about stuff like that so it just feels a little misled it feels a little misguided and it feels very dangerous if i might say because clavicular has himself has stated that he struggles heavily with erectile dysfunction from all of the substances and treatments that he's done and i'm sure banana maxing was not helpful but they rank it as important as shoe lifts which they say the height gain from shoe lifts is not the most substantial the insole is rather squishy so the added height is actually not as much as it claims to be so it's better to actually just wear a shoe that is naturally taller and if all else fails in the wise words of clavicular you can always wear long pants and tiptoe max you can always wear long pants and tiptoe max which is like what i do when i wear long pants and i have to go into a public restroom he's just tiptoe maxing okay all of this is also as equally important as wearing colored contacts which one looks maxer describes as colored contacts can actually save a bad eye area never heard of a bad eye area but apparently having brown eyes you might as well get ready to live a life of pain and suffering some people are even getting eye color surgery which is laser maxing straight to your eye right and blue max is what they say really it just like takes all the pigment out of your eye and it is widely known to be dangerous and not worth it at all i don't know what looks maxers have against a simple brown eye but it's like the bane of their existence side note a lot of these guys not all looks maxers but a lot of them think that men and women are not equal they are rather complimentary meaning you know men are supposed to be in charge and women are supposed to listen right but are we supposed to listen to someone who's petrified of staring into the depths of his own brown eyes i don't know if i would put my life in those people's hands if you have brown eyes you're cooked that's what they say clavicular said you know if you you can get the procedure he says you could probably slay tons of hot chicks while ascending and living in mog city i'll do this eventually in my life do what laser surgery for eye color change oh oh he has brown eyes i think they're like light brown he doesn't like it i see height surgery oh yeah oh there's a whole cast system ranking for colors of eyes if you have dark almost black brown eyes you are quote untouchable sanitation workers street sweepers if they're dark brown you're a manual laborer peasant street merchant it goes all the way up in order of hazel green dark blue to the very lightest blue color which they state is quote men destined to define eras and change history who will be remembered for millennia to come which i also think light blue eyes are stunningly beautiful as with all eye colors but like they can't even really go out in the sun because it hurts their eyes so much but like okay what's happening right now this ranking is so weird it's a goofy chart if you have green eyes that means you're an officer an official or a diplomat if you have dark blue eyes you're an influential artist writer in general where are we getting any of this information i feel like the peptide maxing has melted everybody's brains what is peptide maxing i can't even tell you but i know everyone's doing it wall street is no longer full of coke heads they're all peptide maxing apparently i almost got sold on peptide maxing someone was like you can live a very long time for longevity and health and then i realized we're not in the good place we're in the bad place why extend this day okay i really still don't to this day know what peptide maxing is but everyone's on peptides it's a thing okay eyeball maxing same as shoulder maxing height maxing oh height maxing is a really big thing people are even undergoing surgeries to height max where they like put a lever they break your bone they put a metal lever and then you have to like crank it every day for six months and you just like grow a tiny bit every day does it work um i don't know but it takes years to learn how to walk properly again and some people even after three four years after height maxing surgery they get excited at jogging and like it's just kind of sad because you know there are lots of people who would die to have functioning legs or functioning eyes regardless of the eye color it's just kind of depressing but you can also shoulder max wear shoulder pads they do recommend only whipping those bad boys out during winter months though because the layers help hide them right i did see one clip of clavicular just like throwing on um sticky boob under his t-shirt to make his shoulder more shoulder maxing yeah and i never like i never want to hear a looks maxer make the very unfunny joke of taking a girl swimming on the first date to see her without makeup because yeah you've got two floaties strapped to your arms i'll be drowning without makeup on and you'll be like a little airhead just bobbing around with your shoulder pads keeping you afloat also you've got four eyeballs your colored contacts are rolling around in your eyes now because the chlorine we're all humbled by chlorinated water it's just weird one could make the very good argument that looks maxing is just hotter in cells that sometimes get laid but ultimately like how harmful is looks maxing i think if looks maxing kept to themselves in this bubble where they all just are men raiding men's looks maybe it's okay but it just um it gets unhealthy if they just stuck to self-care grooming maybe wearing makeup which side note looks maxers will do videos like how-to guides they call it fraud maxing where they show you how to use eyebrow pencils to get chiseled jaw lines basically contouring their face it's like a repackaged makeup tutorial they're just doing get ready with me's but they never call it that because they want to call it fraud maxing because that sounds i think more masculine but is that really harmful at the end of the day one person writes on a looks maxing forum hello everyone i'm a 14 year old subhuman i'm 5 7 and 119 pounds and i'm ugly as i've lost 20 pounds in a month during an extreme cut but i don't think i'm close at all to even looking okay please help me i want to get better looking please give me tips the height to weight ratio with more cutting probably unhealthy i'm not sure but one comment instead of pointing that out or encouraging them because they're 14 and calling themselves subhuman because of this random little scale online they just comment back get a haircut to cover your forehead g which is actually pretty tame because there's other people commenting things like nothing you can fix with soft maxing bro meaning like you got to get surgery soft maxing is just grooming and eating healthy accutane but hard maxing is surgery jaw surgery eye surgery you know other people post 19 here's a picture of me how can i improve and someone will comment you got a really frail weak looking body someone else comments you look submissive as take roids and get a genio like looks or you're cooked genio is shorthand for a sliding genioplasty which is where the chin bone is cut and they slide your chin forward and reposition it it's to fix i mean there's real medical reasons why you would need this but aesthetically speaking it's to fix what people believe is quote a weak chin and to create a projected and defined jawline some people advocate for it on looks maxing forums saying it's not as painful as people make it out to be but also you can't chew soft food for like three to four weeks after the operation some people say it took them closer to two months to chew mashed potatoes so it does seem like a very big trade-off other people are saying go to an ortho not gonna lie i would beat the out of you i don't know what it's just like a picture of them and they're asking for advice but when surgeries are tens of thousands of dollars to get it done safely like how else can you fix the problem that is the face that we are born with right there are lots of predatory looks maxers out there that charge their fans courses reminiscent of the pickup artist courses bitcoin crypto courses finance courses stock trading courses they teach courses on how to mog how to be hot for 10 to 15 a month you can be a mogul and pay for mogwarts the school for looks maxing who on earth would pay for such a program 2 000 people 2 000 people now to the credit of margwarts they do market themselves as a hate-free space for young men so i would hope and imagine that they're not out here brutally ripping people apart for having facial asymmetry but i don't know what does admissions into the very legitimate school of mogwarts looks like there's going to be classes every week from influencers who cosplay as professors who will teach you to mog better q and a's with professional moggers aka famous looks maxing looks maxers powerpoint presentations and guides on how to be the ultimate mogger and guides on how to get a razor sharp jawline that you can use to cut open the next admissions letter you get from your mogul friends the founder of mogwarts states it's completely delusional to think that young men are going to go on social media see these high value attractive people with money and all these sorts of things and not be a mogul get insecure it is innate it's going to happen so i'd rather be the one influencer who instead of making people feel like this sort of insecureness instead i'll guide them towards the sort of thing that they can change by charging them but this is also the same guy that gives very spectacular dating advice where he has said if you're dating a girl who has told you that she has a celebrity crush it's over quote she's disrespected you by mentioning the celebrity in front of you if a girl truly likes you she won't even think about any other guy drop her she's immature and i have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of these looks maxers all their ex-girlfriend celebrity crushes were michael b jordan because i feel like that's the only reason that they're on michael b jordan all the time for no reason just shots fired at michael b jordan it's a common thing yeah i'm like hello i've never taken a course at mogwart so i'm not sure how much if at all predatory the course can be but there are luxe maxers out here just encouraging people to do at-home injections of aqualix which is a fat dissolving injection they want you to do it straight to the face it is not fda approved in the us not that the fda has been doing much recently but in the uk you could potentially get a prescription for it but it's this is i mean a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a little bit of a surprise to me that they're doing it right now and i think it's a concept this ideology that they have concept this ideology that they have concept this ideology that they have that women eighty percent of women date that women eighty percent of women date that women eighty percent of women date the top twenty percent of men and they the top twenty percent of men and they the top twenty percent of men and they don't care to date the other bottom don't care to date the other bottom don't care to date the other bottom eighty percent eighty percent eighty percent okay so it's basically saying all women okay so it's basically saying all women okay so it's basically saying all women always state above their look and always state above their look and always state above their look and socioeconomic status which i do think socioeconomic status which i do think socioeconomic status which i do think that there's a lot more studies recently that show that is not the case in fact the opposite is true where i believe at least in the u.s i believe at least in the u.s i believe at least in the u.s more often than not women will marry men more often than not women will marry men more often than not women will marry men who are less educated than them on paper who are less educated than them on paper who are less educated than them on paper so i don't really know where they're so i don't really know where they're so i don't really know where they're getting this from but getting this from but getting this from but they write land whales and deformed girls they write land whales and deformed girls they write land whales and deformed girls will still have access to 100 times more will still have access to 100 times more will still have access to 100 times more intimate relations than any average intimate relations than any average intimate relations than any average looking man as men have become literal looking man as men have become literal looking man as men have become literal low self-esteem social roaches ready to do anything for some fat pre-owned stinky smelling pee the only thing that will determine how long your very good looking chick is going to stay with you is the amount of money you have or how good your bedroom game is that is the ultimate straight relationship black pill it continues to say that you need to practice being the last one in the race in fact don't even finish the race okay so he's like trying to teach you how to be manipulative so he's like you need to learn not to arrive at the destination during intimate relations and he says this is so serious because that's how he operates and he gets a lot of girls insecure and desperate for him because the first time you meet a girl and have intimate relations she should be exhausted and if you don't finish the race it will quote psychologically trick her into thinking she's not good enough for you and then he says right after that you want to stop texting her be cold to her so that she feels like something's wrong with her and he says quote by doing that she'll literally be on a leash and come begging me to fuck her and in addition she'll try her best to make me finish the race you know what finish the race is what he also writes we've all seen a really hot girl go out and marry an average or deformed guy that isn't rich or famous so like you know this is the one time where the wall has been broken he's like a hot girl marries a guy not hot and not rich what does that mean oh my god could it be that girls just really care about personality as well no the only explanation is that he successfully kept her thanks to his intimate game his sex game his banana game that's what he says you know like what's happening when you take your partner in crime you need to this is his um who is this some random dude on a lux maxer forum and this is like one of the top posts that everyone's obsessed with he said it's the ultimate guide and so he said this is how you know if you have a good friend down there you need to get it and slam it against a desk it needs to sound like a fucking hammer it needs to be metal solid zero flexibility anyway in order to not finish the race you need to do math in your head double the numbers four eight sixteen thirty two sixty four or if it gets really bad think about your dead grandma they call that mental maxing your mental maxing has to be strong i swear a lot of these rules and maxing guides are just written by a bunch of phonies they say the only way to get to the top is to have a good intimate session is if she's begging you to stop pushing you away crying screaming the neighbors or the police come because she sounds like she's getting butchered and your condom breaks multiple times somebody call the cops and sue trojan because what's happening how is that an indicator of a good time that sounds like a crime this is like more unrealistic this is as realistic as my spicy romanticist books where one of them is like a shadow daddy shapeshifter vampire werewolf who knots like what what even is this post but then you have a bunch of guys commenting on the thread holy shit good post good post need to find a foid to fuck first side note foid is incel shorthand for a female humanoid it's how incels refer to women it's derogatory it's dehumanizing and very quickly indicates that they've never touched a woman before but who am i to stop them from telling on themselves one person comments all this work just to have some fat ugly whore commit to you yes i mean maybe if there's just hookup culture where everyone's just trying to be hotter so that they can have the most amount of one night stands possible i don't think there's anything wrong between consenting adults doing that but it's also the fact that like a lot of the looks maxers agree with the manosphere sentiment that um body count is one of the most important things for a girl's value yeah one manosphere fucking turd says i would like to have my partner be less experienced and more loyal so that her sexual compatibility is malleable to mine we get to mold our sexual partners to our liking and vice versa like we're some sort of tamagotchi i think that's a lot more possible when the partners haven't had stacked body counts to the sky they also think that three body count is high like atrociously high they think even one if it's not the one you're married to is like atrociously high there was actually a whole debate about it yeah there was a whole debate on like i mean everywhere but there was one jubilee where mark manson the self-help guru was like what's the difference between having one person that you've had intimate relations with like a thousand times versus multiple partners that you've had multiple relationships with it's just weird but they don't get it yeah also this guy who said that he wants a woman to be malleable to his sexual preferences not to enforce their idea of looks maxing he is not easy on the eyes it's just kind of strange okay it's just a lot of demands and it's just weird and they also say things like this is clavicular okay clavicular said quote no woman has a political ideology that she's going to stand by right because they have no backbone they have no spine with any of their opinions that's crazy yeah which speaking of clavicular he has a looks maxing course that has over a thousand members and costs fifty dollars a month which is a lot of money yeah he also makes about eighty to a hundred thousand dollars a month from streaming and as i'm filming this i decided to go check upon him on tiktok and he's starting his college tours i don't know what that means i think he's gonna go to college campuses and just like make an incel army i don't know what's happening but yeah and in that promotion for the college course he's like making out with this girl and then his her husband walks in and it's like haha this is real i mean i think that's i guess it's a bit but let's see but like for that to go around in college is kind of crazy yeah it's very weird like i don't know what is his lore what does he do exactly okay clavicular yes no i'm right now okay clavicular is a very interesting individual that i came across as of more recently and i actually the stuff that was showing up on my tiktok algorithm about clavicular the girlies were getting into clavicular including me i was like oh wait this one clip i saw of him was actually kind of enduring i don't know anything about clavicular and then i started the research for this case and i was like oh i take back any sentiment i had of that because it's it's bad so the first thing that i found out about him other than like he had this collab with whoa vicky we're going to talk about it in a second but was that he spends just like a lot of money on peptides and drugs and enhancements every single month i don't even know if he's breaking even at this point with how much he's making he said that he approximately spends like fifty to eighty thousand dollars a year on peptides yeah what exactly is the difference between peptides and drugs i think i mean peptides is a amino acid that's like created by protein i don't know i think glp1s are peptides i think peptides help with lots of medical issues that people actually need but then now people are peptide maxing it's kind of giving a more extreme version of sauna and cold plunge so there's like there's a lot of overlaps with clavicular because he is the most presentable mainstream face for looks maxing and if you go down one of the alleyways you're going to get a very different side of clavicular because of your algorithm so for example i would say that my algorithm is not but would be more in favor of like whoa vicky so like all the whoa vicky stuff came out because the live stream was going viral and then i started getting pushed his longevity overlap so like doctors are interviewing him but he's not a big fan of the live stream so he's not a big fan of the live stream so he's not a big fan of the live stream so there's just like lots of weird and then you have the lol cow overlap which is just him saying dumb stuff to get viral but he has a huge digital footprint that he has tried to erase a good chunk of it but he growing up was self-identified i don't know if he was diagnosed he says that he grew up with that he has autism that he's awkward he had all of these he was actually very active on these forums these lookism forums yeah he said that he would try to say as little words as possible on a daily basis he would wake up early so that he didn't have to run into people including his parents before he went to school i think beginning clavicular was more relatable he talks about how it's hard to talk to anybody without being on some sort of benzodiazepine he just seems like a really uncomfortable guy who faced some rejection that maybe because he's not neurotypical does not interpret social cues that cause tension in his life and feels a lot of social anxiety and that is something that i think a lot of people can relate to he says that he started working as a bouncer at a club after high school and he said quote i was noticing who was going home with the pretty girls every night and i noticed it was really only about one to two percent of men so it was people who are very tall people who are very good looking something i was noticing over my formative years when i was a teenager growing up so making these observations kind of seeing that sometimes good-looking people would be able to go up to women and start making out with them without saying anything i kind of started to shift my worldview a little bit and realize this is the most important metric and i have to go all in and he says that he purchased testosterone online when he was 14 so like illegal testosterone and he's been taking testosterone since he also talks about like testosterone is like a huge thing this is where i would say like the wellness longevity manosphere slightly overlap and like all of that but 14 is crazy and he wasn't getting it from a doctor he also does the one thing about clavicular that i will give him is he does talk about all the downsides so he just straight up tells everyone he cannot have kids because his body does not create testosterone on his own he can't have kids he says that he can do some sort of therapy later if he decides to stop taking testosterone and have kids i don't know how accurate that is but i will give it to him he is very open about all the consequences of the things that he does so he's not trying to make it seem like it's a walk in the park he's known for a lot of other things one of them being that his mom had to take away his hammer when he was a teenager because he kept doing what he it's referred now in the large scheme of things as bone smashing which is where you repeatedly tap your face with a hammer to change your face shape because you're creating all these like micro fractures is it true like is it like a real thing safe thing no so every doctor has come out and been like you're just like you could paralyze your face you could also hit a nerve you're also likely not going to get symmetrical results so you're just like swollen and red and inflaming your face and probably doing more harm than good but he said that he would bone smash ever since he was a teenager and then now when you look pictures of him he's like 20 he looks 30 but i mean he looks chiseled but everyone's like how much of that is just his genetics there's a clip of him even using a massage gun to his face jamming it in his face which again you really should not do a massage gun for sure he's also said things about sydney sweeney okay and like not a lot of people are sydney sweeney fans however he says i think she's pretty malformed her upper maxilla is extremely recessed she's got the eyes of doom with no infraorbital support she's really not that much of a looker in her face i think that a lot of people with porn brains find her attractive because of her body in other podcasts there are like he'll go on the fresh and fit podcast where he's sitting across from other women and he's just like rating their looks or rather listing out a bunch of random things that he thinks are good for him and he's like i don't are wrong about their face stating her mid face is way too long obviously she's got the jowls coming in horrible nasolabial folds horrible total facial facial with the height ratio just really bad age indicators but obviously at 30 that's not something that's really going to surprise me her inner maxilla is super recessed horrible and it's like you know her eyes are sunken in then the next person he's like really recessed chin he's just doing he's just doing a lot and like what do you expect from the guy he used to apparently make anonymous instagram accounts when he was in high school and college and take creepy candid photos of girls in his class in town post them on instagram and brutally rate their looks in the caption what and i think the part that really annoys me is like in the forums it's definitely a lot of self-hatred that is transferred to other guys in the looks maxing community and ultimately to women but when you see these famous looks maxers and they're rating people online for example that's what he said about sydney sweeney but fine she's a public figure whatever but then you'll have him rate random girls at a club and just be so rude so degrading and like nobody asked you like why are you doing this and it's like getting off on the girls being humiliated and then he'll see another famous live streamer you know that is not conventionally attractive and he'll be so soft and gentle with how he rates the guy's looks it's just very like circle jerk yeah he calls lots of women chagladites which i guess stands for like a cave dweller basically a feral human in the essence of what he's trying to say he also even admits he self-admits you know i was always a peak hater i was like incel incel yeah however i guess if there's anything to get behind clavicular on is when he rips into politicians but like the way he does it is also bizarre he says i mean this next election cycle who's going to win it's going to be gavin newsom against jd vance and because jd vance is subhuman and gavin newsom mogs he's gonna win the person interviewing him asks him jd vance is subhuman like what makes you say that and also the person interviewing him is like a super alt-right podcaster so they're all like trying to get him into the alt-right line okay and then he's like he's got a very short total you know facial width to height ratio he's obese very recessed side profile whereas newsom is like a 6-3 chad he also states that he disagrees with newsom's politics so he's like very maga but he is going to vote for democrat newsom because he mogs what is this world like i can't tell i really cannot decide if this is funny or if this is like catastrophic foreshadowing for the future of humanity in our country where we're just voting for like the hottest moggers wow i mean he's on brand i guess yeah he's saying that sarcastically by the way but he also says it's just embarrassing for the president of the country to be fat he says how are you fat and you expect to lead a country shape but he's also very seemingly supportive of the trump administration which is not i don't know if any of these people are like symbolic of health and fitness but i mean they're all old as well but i don't know i don't know he also says in stream my grandma texted me today and she was like stop making fun of jd vance and i was like oh my god bro i'm not gonna do that he's fat and he's ugly no thank you grandma and for someone who is so heavily on the right he says some weird things he has this one video that has gone semi-viral and he's like oh my god i'm not going to do that i mean i didn't see it up until the research of this video so i guess in very specific circulating groups but he says would charlie kirk have gotten assassinated if he were a chad probably not here's why good-looking people experience something called the halo effect so it's quite possible that if charlie were to be better looking someone wouldn't have hated him enough to assassinate him so i don't really know he's like he hangs out a lot with the alt-right people like nick fuentes really likes nick fuentes um yeah nick fuentes he said he would vote for nick fuentes if he runs for president he hangs out with the tate brothers he hangs out with all those types of people um so he is very aligned with the alt-right pipeline and the manosphere however it's confusing because he's also like shitting on them at the same time so it doesn't make any sense it's just weird i think he just goes for whatever is lucrative that's why it makes zero sense he's also said things like i hate people i hate people i hate people i hate people i hate people i hate politics so whoever wants to give me the fattest bag let's be real and he said i'll go each and every way brother so do what do all the look maxers like forums or people think about him since he's like the poster child now do do they approve of him do they think he's the giga chad or is that the energy or yeah i think they all like him except i don't know if they think he's a giga chad there's some more smaller we're gonna talk about him next mason hull otherwise known as hulo the one from the internet i don't know if he's a giga chad he's a giga chad he's a giga chad the beginning of this story i think a lot of people think he's more representative of an aesthetic chad oh yeah from what i could see i mean what do you expect from clavicular clavicle clav i just don't know how much his brain can handle after he's loaded up with every substance under the sun it seems he also like live streamed his friend putting him in a chokehold and then when he was released from the chokehold he went limp and started convulsing on the ground he also seemingly overdosed during a live stream he was slurring his speech on live there's videos of him being carried out of the bar and taken to a hospital and when i say carried it's not just like a security guy supporting his weight he's fully being carried by two dudes down the stairs what wasn't he in court for something recently yes he was in court multiple times for different charges and he got mogged by the judge we're gonna get into that all in part two this is going to be the first half of the audio podcast in the second half we're going to go down clavicular's lore because it's really impossible to keep this episode just on mason hull and looks maxing because i thought the looks maxing was very important to the charges that he has against him and like the fan base that he has supporting him even after his charges were revealed and after the video with jitian we're going to get into it but it's impossible to talk about looks maxing without talking about clavicular so with that being said stay tuned for the second part of the audio podcast and i will see you in that one you