Ex Prison Guard Stops Prison Riot, Beef With CboysTV & Ostacruisers 20 Year YouTube Career!

I do want to give you your flowers on that jet ski jump. Our fans would still get fired up. - Yeah. - And be like, "See boy, he's already did this." - Yeah, I'm just glad we've progressed past our beef. - Wait, that was the best, yeah. - Our prison was built in 1911. We had the worst disturbance since it was built. It was a full-on riot. That's what future inmates are. They're brought up in the worst conditions that you couldn't even believe. Yeah, the deck that some people are dealt is so tough. - You don't present yet. - I remember Whistling going off about how he complains about a lot of stuff, but I remember him one time complaining about he was in Europe, and that's how I figured out they didn't have AC, 'cause he was talking about how they didn't have AC, which honestly, that was a valid thing to complain about. - Yeah. - Is there a stat of how many people die in Europe without because of AC, it's really high, isn't it? - More than gun violence in the US, if you're wondering. - We should start a mini-split company over there, and just start installing mini-splits for 'em. - That's so easy, really good. - That's a really good idea. - That is a really good idea. - I don't really get anyone's thought of that. - I'm just kidding. - Worldwide. - Wait, does Canada have AC? - You guys are so hot. - We don't have them. - It's just over in a shipping container. - You guys have AC though? - Yeah. - Nice. - A work in a prison for 19 years with no AC, and it's like when you're done your shift and you get home, you want to. - Really? - Yeah. - Hold on, do you still work there? - In the past. - In the past, hold on. - Yes. - Especially guests here, Dave Oster. - How do you pronounce your last name? Oster Pue? - Oster Pue, yep. - Cool, Oster Pue. - Better known legend as Oster Cruiser. - A legend in the YouTube space. I believe, what was it, 20 years on YouTube? - Yes. - Crazy. - That's insane. - That's what I'm trying to do. - That's a 20 years old staff. - Wait, so what? 2006, when did YouTube start? Like just before that. What was your first video that you were doing? - Our videos were like, a couple of buddies had trucks. We had a land cruiser. That's where the cruiser came from. We would just go out and try to make it through snow banks. And there was no editing using a little picture camera that you could put onto video. - And it was Square. - Yes. - Yeah, like 480. - 480, yes. - Like what did everyone think? When you started uploading videos to YouTube? - It was like anything, right? It just, it took a while to get the ball rolling. And at first, like, it took probably two years. So it started in 2006, 2007. I took the job at the prison. And we built the cabin two years before that. We moved up to the lake. We sold our house. I took a better-paying job, and then I bought my first quad. So then we would want a first quad? - Yes. - Yes. - So a quad, guys. - I had it in the morning like that. - Like born that way. - Move to the country, started YouTube, you know, uploading YouTube, got a quad. - A lot of stuff. - Started a short time there. - Job at a prison that you just happen to then work at for 19 years. - I just put my paperwork in, you guys. - Wow. - I've been off on a paid leave for like the last three years, which has been really nice, because you always have that safety net. If things aren't quite going well, you give your two weeks notice, you go back to work. So for three years, I have not been getting a paycheck, 'cause YouTube's been doing enough to pay the bills, and we're just getting all these awesome opportunities. And so what my boss calls me, and he's awesome. He's every year, every March, he'll call me, "Hey, come in and sign for the next year." Perfect, so this, so it's not anywhere near March, he calls me, "Hey, come see me." I'm like, "Oh crap." - Here we are. Anyways, he's like, "Yeah, you just need to make a decision like you either got to come back or you got to look at retirement." And just so happens, right at this time, they had this, it's called ERI, early retirement initiative. They're trying to get people out of the public service, 'cause it's a federal job. So it was like, are they trying to get people out? - I don't know, they're trying to shrink work for us, I don't know. - It's more people in maybe, maybe something like that, maybe get more high paid people out there, - 'cause you're getting benefits for working for a country? - Yeah, yeah, and those, actually it's really cool if it'll job, those follow you after retirement. It's like, "Oh, pass away, they follow her." Like, it's a really, really decent, the benefit of sleeping in one eye open. - Really? (laughing) - She's looking at you like a food taste funny. - That is cool, so you, I mean, you're full time YouTube now. - Yes, we have been, but we've always had that safety net. And now it's like, I went in and officially signed paperwork and then everyone works like, 'cause, you know, people you haven't seen in your bag. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you go there and so many new people have started. It's just like-- - You don't even know you. - Yeah, no, it's a mistake, you feel like a prisoner or something? - Yeah. - Or like, literally, you know, I walked ready, you have to walk by two secure control posts to get inside, and usually it's people you know. So they're like, "Hey, Dave, how's it going?" Boom, they let you through. It finally happened just like a week ago. I came in, person at front security, no idea who I was. Didn't recognize him, didn't recognize me, person at me in control that opens the doors. Same thing, they just let me straight through. I was like, "I can't handle that." - Really? - Yeah, just like, "Hey." - So what were you doing? - I was CX1, so there's CX2, which is, you're kind of more, I didn't say hands-on, but you have like a case load and you're more interacting with the inmates. They're trying to get them into programs. You're trying to do this. You're always checking in on them. You work on a unit. So here it's called like a cell block there. It's called a range, like a range is a block of cells. I was a CX1, which is more external posts, like towers. We have like a, we call it a Jeep, it's usually a minivan. We drive around the perimeter, all 24 hours a day, stop through over stuff like that. It's pretty, pretty awesome job. But I just like being a CX1. We work 12s, and it was like a 7374. So you work 7, get 3-off, work 7, or work, what the heck was that? - Pretty good stuff. - You did it every year. - It has been a while. - Yeah, I was like, "You can kind of, you can kind of, "you can kind of, you can kind of, you can kind of. " - What was I working again? - 4347, work 4, get 3-off, work 4, get 7 off. So every 11 days, you gotta week off, and then I always had, you have your sick leave, you have your vacation, you have it, and so I always blow through that stuff. And that's why it was good. If my boss is needed something, I was like, "Yep, no problem." Because a lot of times, I needed stuff, and so they're like, no problem. So it was at all in to work 24/7, you two. - Yeah, you've got to have things that you're gonna take some time off, like, yeah, it just doesn't work that way, as you guys know, right? - Yeah, you've gotta have some good stories. - Oh, yeah. - So none of them-- - Any escapes? - Well, I always had dead escapes. - There is like, sorta, like just before I started-- - Just before I started, there's a really good one where we have this thing called the Sally Port where there's an interior huge gate and exterior gate, and that's where vehicles go in and out. They come in the one gate, they get locked in, they get searched, then they can come in. You choose you to drop off bread or whatever for the kitchen or supplies or whatever. - Yes, yes, exactly. So on the way out, there's bread truck, which, you know, everyone, it's the same truck every day. The spare tire was missing, but the cradle was still there. So an inmate crawled into the cradle where the spare tire was, and it's up enough, where it's pretty hard to see. Anyways, the guy working, it was been working that same post for like 20 some years. So you'd think you work a post for 20 some years, you'd be like, yeah, you're good, you know? But this dude, every day, does his job every day. - He checks on a super shot. - Yes, comes around with his little mirror. Spots him right away, doesn't say nothing, super smart. 'Cause there's a tower right there armed, like we're up in the tower with really nice 5, 5, 5, 6s. And so he gets the guards attention up in the tower. And okay, we know you're under there. Like, step up, 'cause you don't know, maybe the guy's got a shift, like he knows, right? You don't know how desperate the guy is. But no, they caught him and-- - Wow, that was the only time. - The only time, like I would always joke, and the best time with an inmate is when you get to go take him out, like say to the hospital or so. You're always taking inmates to different things. When they're away from the prison, they'll talk to you, you can talk, have a conversation. And I was, I was joked. Before I retire, I want someone to try to, I'm like, you could try right now, you. - I was always that guard that you'd always like try to escape. - I don't know. - Yeah, I was looking for a YouTube video. Tracking down the inmate that escaped out of my car. - That'd be a good video. - That's a pretty good video. - Use the shirt for that, just to be stuff. Yeah, yeah. - What would happen to a guy like that that got caught under the bread truck? Does he get more time now? - 100%. - Yeah, escape attempt. - Depending on, you know, they bring up all this path, depending on whatever. - I mean, if you're trying to escape though, you must have a lot of years. So it's like, who cares? - Yeah, it's different. - And it could be something as dumb as you want to go see your girl. You know, it seems like it could be this big thing, but sometimes it's the silliest reasons I got to get out for something and it seems you tell a person. - You're not gonna be able to get back in, brother. Like, what do you mean? You're not gonna come back right back in. No one's gonna notice. A rational person would look at it and say, but sometimes it's not the, they're not in there because they're, you said so they could go see their girl, dude. They do that thing where like, your girlfriend can come in and they have a vegetable. - Yeah, we have four, there are two duplexes. So there's four roots. So you must have to be really good to let that happen. - Yeah, totally. - How do you get out space on behavior? - How many of those do you get? - I don't even know if you can get more than one a year. It seems like-- - One a year? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - No, it's not like it's not like one of the ones. - That's more than I thought. And like CJ said, like, and you gotta, you have to have like, you know, good behavior. It's just so they, 'cause you're sorta unsupervised. You get checked on several times throughout the day. So you get 24 hours or what? - Yeah, I think, no, sometimes it's a weekend. Like it's all different. I think you apply. This is what I want. And then they'll say, okay, you're approved for this. So I think it's different in a lot of cases. Sometimes it's a wife and kid. Sometimes it's girlfriend. Sometimes it's a brother. And they just hang out and play cards. And you know, you're just, yeah, someone else. I would have thought cleaning the toilets in prison was the worst job cleaning that room. - Oh, it's for sure the worst job. - Bro, that's terrible. It's an inmate that does it. And it's inmate that's. - Oh, I made it does it, yeah. - Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, just do something else. You're just like, not even nicely. - What do you mean, like, it's the same guy that cleans up when there's a big fight and there's blood everywhere. - Yeah. - Or when an inmate smears crap - Oh, there's people that ran good. - In Jaminos. - There's people that are in it. - Whoa, yes. (laughs) - What'd you say? - Sorry, there. - There's a guy that likes to clean up shit and come, I guess. - Yes, yes. - What the fuck? - That's crazy. - Volunteer, like just happy. Something happens. He's just, yep, he's ready. - I mean, that guy's ready. - He's ready. - What about you guys are happy to. - Two risen fights, where it's just like, a full-out war happens, like in that cell block where everyone's fighting that ever happened. How often does that happen? - We had the worst disturbance. Our prison was built in 1911, maybe 2014. Half the prison got taken. It was a full-on riot, like a full-on riot. - Like they were against you guys, or against each other? - Thank God. It all started in the kitchen, where they're food. Like the kitchen staff, it's like they get a bonus if they spend less money, so they cut back portions. And we're like on the inmate side. If it says eight ounces of meat, that's what they need to get. And so they literally would start bringing scales down and wait, it's only six ounces, you know, and this went on for a week, - Yeah, it did, too. - Totally. But they're like, oh no, you know, like they didn't care. And it's us that has to deal with it. And so anyways, that just went on for weeks and weeks. And they tried grievances. They tried that with tried deal with government, right? Everything just take, as you guys know, the whole, you know, everything takes so long. And so it just one day, I don't know what it was. And it just started as an argument. And it just went from there. - With who? Like an argument between guards and like basically lock up. Like stuff's going on, you know, we don't like it. Like go lock up. Nope, we're not locking up. And that's how it started. Just this kind of standoff. - Like when you say lock up though. - In to yourself. - Okay, go from off to cell block. 'Cause during the day, they're free. They go to jobs, they're un-ranged. They have all this free time. I worked in the medium. The max is totally different. I worked in the medium and they had lots of free time. So, you know, but if stuff was going on or you figured something was going on, you got to lock up, you got to lock up. But that's how it started. It's like, I don't know, so they were like planning this. 'Cause it went like from range to range. All these guys aren't locking up. Those guys aren't locking up. It's like, oh crap. - Everyone just decided that they were gonna unite. - 100%. - 100%. And if they were smart, they would have did it when they were at their jobs. They could have taken off that part of the prison. But they were all on their range when they did it. So all we did is back down and lock the door and then plan from there. Well, now everyone's going crazy. Like, I don't know how much I was. - They started fighting each other. - They got in a fight. - Yes, big fight. - Why would they start fighting each other? - You have a beef with someone? This is the perfect time. - Oh, they smashed all the cameras. There's no one. - The guards are pulled back. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - Sometimes terrifying being those guys in there. - For all, like bad stuff happened. - Right. - Stuff that you could think worse than that happened. Like it was terrible. - How many people died? - A couple. - And it wasn't for us. And we shot a lot. Like we have our ERT or internal emergency response team. So those guys get extra training or whatever. And those are usually the first line of defense. Something happens. Boom, we call me ERT. They meet with a warden. They sign a thing called a smiac, which basically gives you full heart blanche to shoot whoever you have to. It's now a full blown riot. They read a riot act. Normally, say it and made escapes. You shoot them. You get charged with murder. - Oh, what? - You go to trial. They look at everything. Nope, you're all in the good. He was at this fence. You did your job. - You did your job. - Yes, but with this. Yes, once that's read, it's like whatever happens happens. So anyway, it's quite wild. - Quite wild. - So it got to that point. And that takes about, I don't know, half our 40 minutes. So in this time. - Long 45 minutes, I'm sure. - One range is smashing apart their bed frames, trying to get through the floor to the (beep) range to try to just. - Oh my God. - What? - Seriously, there's like those guys go out. - Try to catch, bro, they're trying to get through the ceiling. - Yes, to cause more. - To go get those guys. - To get them. - To literally like, - I mean. - And them. - Who is in the bottom range? Trying to get at the SA. - The general population in me. It's like just people in there for whatever reason. - The drug charges, murder, everything. - Oh, they separate them, so. - Just (beep) is separated. People have to be 'cause they're so. - Yes. - Targeted. - Yes, wow. - The only thing that's left in society is prison still for the most part, for the most part. Some prisons are like, you know. - Yeah. - And then there is general population so. - Whoa. - Anyways, yeah, so let's mash them through the floor. To get up there, we're gonna get these guys. So then, finally, our guys come in and we use 12 gauge shotguns with number four bucks. So there's nine BBs in each one. And we're trained to do bound shots, not center mass shots. Like, escape your center mass. But, right situation, we're trying to control stuff. You're trying to take some steam off. And so they just start shooting. - Whoa. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - And the inmates are like, this is how crazy the inmates are. They're like. - They're like crazy, they're taking it. - They're coming on to range. And the inmates are yelling, this is Sparta. Like, this is how long they're just like. - They're just in it. They're probably having fun, honestly. - And what did they have? - What did they have for weapons? - They just have like chunks of bed frame, like any shanks that they had hidden. Lots of wooden stuff. 'Cause we have metal detectors everywhere. It's lots of plexiglass, lots of wood stuff. But anything they could steal from whatever from their workplace. 'Cause there's wood shop. There's, so there's screwdrivers sometimes that go missing. They had a, you know, like a carpenter square. Big long. They got one of those. They cut it. - They made it a giant sword out of the one. What point to it, and we got like a kite that's called like a little note saying, "Hey, get this thing off range before someone dies because this is giant sword." So they told us what light to look on. You go down there, oh, take it off range. - Like hidden and somebody, somebody was like, this is gonna be bad. - 100%. - Like we need this out of here. So they, and they hide it in the common area. 'Cause when you find it, you can't charging one, because it's not in their cell. Whoa. - Yeah, so anyway, so they come in and they start shooting and they made, it's like, it's just rubber bullets. Like, don't worry. And for the most part, I'd say three quarters of them locked up. They're like, okay. - Yeah. - The ERT is here real. - Yeah. - They're coming out, we're locking up. But, you know, they're like an announcement over the loudspeaker that says like, we're in riot mode now, like, and then I think they, I think they announce it to just before they go on. And so anyways, they start shooting. And they say, "I have to remember what's the first guy "get shot." It's like, it's not like those guys. - Yeah, it's not rubber bullets. - So then most of the other inmates locked up. Like, okay, it's crazy. So then they just start going down range and just throwing inmates in whatever open cell, lock, next, lock. They get to the back and the inmates made this giant of all bed frames and they barricaded themselves. There's maybe five or six left at the very back of the range. Like, we're not, you know, until the finally got there and then pepper sprayed the crap out of them and finally got them locked up and then onto the next range, onto the next range. And I think it went way quicker after that, after they shot a few times on that. - Yeah. - The numbers were diminishing. - They started hearing that, yeah. But like you said, can you imagine being on other range and you just know that like 60 guys are trying to get through the, like, oh shit. - Man, they had to be in trouble. - Yeah. - After that. - Yeah. - Oh, conjugal visits after that. - How do people get charged after something like that? Like, are they just like, you're the ringleader and it's, you know, question. - And it's that many people. Some inmates, some inmates died and they could not prove who it was, 'cause the numbers are smashed. No one's gonna give testimony. I've seen, right? - Right. - Jones and dark. - They probably knew who the players were and those guys get shipped out. They like, they broke apart every, separate them. And for like two years of the rebuild process, we had half the population. So for us, it was very easy 'cause you have half the inmates to deal with 'cause half the prison was destroyed. Like they, they tried starting fires. They tried, they tried everything to record. They smashed all the windows out and it just, it just went crazy. And like, way worse stuff happened. - Yeah. - And we would talk about it after this. But it was like, holy shit. It was like, yeah, it was nuts. So anyways, I was, I was not even at work. I came in on midnight's the night after. Come in after all the, and you just looking down range and it's just like a wasteland. - Yeah. - Yeah, like wondering how they can even pull this off in a matter of a couple of hours. - And you think, how does that happen? Because all the years you're there, you get a couple of guys that are just real problem people, you deal with them. For the most part, people, they want to do their time, they want to get older and they want to go on the flight. So you never have something to happen. I was like, how did it happen? There's a small group had like really good shanks. - We're riding. Other inmates are like, I'm not riding. No, like, first guy, stab, stab. Like, everyone else? I guess we're riding. - Yeah, we're going to do it. - Like blackmailed them into riding. - Yeah, so that was where the 75% that ran back to their cell. But that was 75% was once the ERT got there. It was like 80% commitment at first. Some people did get in and I think there was a guard locking some cell. So if you got in and you got locked, 'cause once you're in, your cell's still open, someone could just come and open the handle until we lock at the panel at the front. So if they got in their cell and that guard actually locked it, they're safe. They're in their little thing. People could try to get it to you, but it's pretty tough, right? So yeah, it was crazy. That was about 2014. And like I said, we went through two, three years of rebuilding and craziness and then we started getting everything back. And it was a good job. It's like 90% of the time, it's a great job. Just the 10% some stuff can go really off the wall. And I was lucky, my career was pretty good. I would go to work and do my job and come home. I lived far enough away at 45 minute drive home and on that 45 minutes, you had a bit of time to decompress, for sure. I never, never really brought my job home, where it affects everyone differently, right? Some people just can't leave work at work and it really affects their life. - Yeah, hop too. - Yeah, yeah. - Like anyone in that. You see the worst sort of worst job, though. - Exactly, yeah. - You see a lot of bad stuff. - And you're just like a guy. - I'm sure you kinda just feel, yeah, it feels weird, then you're like, it's like a whole other world in there, I'd imagine. - Yes. - So does that make this, you, I mean, 'cause you talk to the inmates, you get to know them, does it make you your outlook on people, just general people, any different? Like are you trusting of people or are you? - It does change you a lot. What it did for me is maybe I'm just a little bit more of a compassionate person, but what it does for me is, because we have a really strong following of young native kids that have the worst childhood ever, and that's what future inmates are. So if anyone ever gets a job and makes something of their life, that should be so celebrated because people don't realize, what are these people, like if you grew up, like they did, you wouldn't even make it one. And then, you know what I mean? So when I talk to these guys, I'm like, man, I, you know, I can see, you just, you can see the full circle. And how long it would take to break that cycle? You know what I mean? You'd have to start today, and it would take two generations to break out of that. It's just, it's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man. Yeah. So you see, yeah, you see a little bit behind the scenes, and for the most part, like, you know, like 75, 80% inmates are fined to deal with. There's always gonna be like the, you know, dickheads that are just one of their dickhead pieces of shit. So, but yeah, I know it was, it was a good job. And you had a lot of really great friends. Like that's all I miss is the people, you know, when I go back there, but even you run into them all the time here and there and they're just like, it's, it's changed. It's like, there's no point in coming back. Like, so it's so retired. So it's so retired. So yeah, all your guys. Yeah. So like, you'll come back and, and, and 70% of the people aren't even there anymore. So it's like, oh, so then that starts playing into the whole thing too, like, I guess before we get off this topic, do you ever run into any people who have gotten out that are still around town? Yeah. Like, like, it's not so much anymore. Like, even I've gone three years, it's like three years is like almost a lifetime for some stuff. But yeah, lots of times you'd be like in, like, you grocery store and they always call you boss. Hey boss, and you get that sometime. Hey boss, and you look, hey, you just say, hey, you were lots of time they're just saying, hey, but you were good. I was gonna say, you're the nicest. One of the nicest guys I've ever liked you. But obviously, they're not trying to go back either. I'm not gonna fight this guy that I saw. Yeah. Who is a prison guard? It's gotta be a concern. I had imagined for some of the guys. 100%. Yeah, you got, you got, you know, you create some enemies. 100%. 100%. You get, like, you know, death threats, like, I'm gonna kill you. You know, like, and there was very few where I was like worried where for us, it's like one guard to like 30 inmates, sort of popular for movement. When you call work in the morning, like 60 guys walk by you. So when the medium of something goes bad, it can go bad really fast. The max, you have way more dickheads to deal with. But it's like four guards to one inmate. Yeah. Oh wow. Oh wow. So, but they've done over time, you know, jammed clinics in so that the door wouldn't allow, like, over time, they've, you know, there's been situations there too, nothing as crazy as the riot. But there's been some situations where they've almost took control of the dome and just because they've planned it out and, you know, and you get a little bit complacent. You don't wait for that door to lock show green before you open this door. Little, little things like that. And inmates know they, they keep track of everything. They don't got anything else. Yeah, they don't get anything else to do. 100%. Yeah, they're so bored that, you know. And some inmates, there's just whatever sleep 23 hours a day, but others are just, they can't shut their brain off. So they're always like scheming, right? That would be me. How is your sentence, Mike? I slept all the time. Yeah. Do you think a lot of people like that go to jail and it completely changes them? Or do most people put in their time, get back out on the streets, and then resort back to old ways pretty quick? For our stuff, the recidivism, it's called is, it's so extremely high. Because the crowd you're hanging out with, that got you put in there. They get out and they go with, they go with that same crowd. It's like just a matter of time. It's like, but then again, you see people that are, say, a drunk driver kill someone, you know, just a dude that hangs dry wall, money to Friday got drunk, who killed someone. He goes in there. Pretty normal, dude. They try to, they try to get those guys into the minimum, which is outside the wall. And it's a lot less and a lot less crap to deal with because they stay in the medium. Man, you just fall into this crazy world and it totally changes you. Like you just, you think you, you know what it's going to be like and it just is, whatever you see in the movie times 10, like it's just, it's crazy. And that's, and that's your life now. So hard to go through that and not, and not, not be hauled into it. Yeah. But it was a good job. You worked nights and it was a good job. Just what a days it was crazy. But then, yeah, you have stories. I was lucky, you know, you get in fights here and there. It's usually inmates fighting and you're breaking it up. I was never, not too much directed us. Like, you'd be, you'd just be smart, right? Like sometimes you're walking in mate and you know other inmates want to get them. So you just stay back a bit because he's going to get shit and piss bombed and you don't want that on you. So little, little things you pick up on after the years, you know, like I'm not going to be right behind this guy because they really hate this guy and stuff like that. So what's it got? What's a guy like that doing to piss people off in jail and it's usually, like, why would you create enemies? It's usually debts. It's you, you get drawn into playing cards. You get drawn into this because you're so bored and you run up a big debt and you can't pay it. You don't, what do you do, right? And then, yes, so then you're just, you got to mark on you and so then those guys check in to our segregation, which they don't have segregation anywhere. Our liberal government for the last 11 years, man, it's a way different job than when I started, like, you know, for better or for worse, way worse, like a million times worse. They took all our power away and it's like, you know, something happens. You used to be able to put them in segregation and this is like something happens. They're like, yeah, just go back on range. Oh, yeah. You know, shit's going to happen again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One good thing about your guys, governments, they let you drive through the cat tails, man. Yeah. They don't want to do that down here. Yeah, I know. That's terrible. They have somebody here that got like full charge, like when they go across the border, they question one of these charges that was like 15 years ago, being on a snow wheel trail before a certain date, you know, even though it's still gone, but it's still a snow wheel trail. It's not a designated ATV trail till a certain date, which they get charged with all sorts of whatever, like being on the wrong, like, I don't know the exact thing. Just take it to the wrong season, like just basically primes against nature, like crazy stuff. Crimes against nature. That sounds really bad. Yeah. Primes against nature. He's like, what the fuck? What did you do? Stay away from him. So. If you ever see the video, the guy who's jumping, he's rope swinging off the cliff and the park rangers come up and try to stop him. He goes, if you jump off this, you're going to jail and he does like some huge gain or big flip gets pulled up and they have a video of him and they go, what, what am I being charged with? And the girl behind him goes, dangerous games. Yeah. Dangerous games. What the fuck is dangerous games for a legendary reason to go to go to jail, but sorry, Mike, I cut you off. Well, it's just going to say, like, speaking of cat tails. So you ride the Skag. Yeah. And can you elaborate on that and what is the Skag and how, what is the limits to it? Where is it? We ride like 99% of the time are marked trails. It just happens. There's a lot of muskig area. It's a lot of like just bearing like no one else goes there. And you can. And you can ride through muskig. Yeah. On the show. You try to stay on trail, right? You're not trying to go and smack, you know, create problems for yourself, right? First, there's so much fun stuff to do that's on a trail that there's no point in going off trail, like to create, create issues, especially if you're doing a video, right? Yeah. Because they'll find you have exactly, right? So so muskig, there's, there's a couple different kinds like, there's the like floating mat where there's like, like literally floating. Yeah. Like, if you cut through, you're done. Like, that's why we all like to try to run big power because you've got to try to skim it. There's just, you can sort of like pick your way across, go and slow, but what's the fun in that? Right? You're trying to just smash across. And then there's more like, you don't like peat, like peat moss, like you get for adding, so there's that, but with water. So that's the stuff you throw. I didn't know that. So yeah, if it's, you're saying, yeah, there, it's cool. You can kind of see it go up now, but there's one where you, you can stop because if you were to sink, you would just go like, let's say five feet down, but there's other ones where if you made it through that top floating layer, it would just be, you're just done no matter what. Like, yeah. And a lot of times when you're in an area like that, there's no trees, no trees grow there. So if you screw your, now your buddy's got to come out to try to get you it, so that's all don't. But I was all sort of pre-sherped. And that's just another shirt, everything's so much easier now. Like I was just saying, we used to have like, you'd get back at midnight one a.m. to a.m. Because buddy broke while now two guys are towing him. Well, then this, it's this domino effect always, always these issues. They're the best, best rides, like people will never forget those rides. And, but since the shirt came no matter what happens, you hop in the shirt and you're broken and chunk gets drugged out and yeah, you're good to go. So you're laughing about e-dave right now, aren't you? Yeah. I just think about e-dave. Yeah. Nobody's. Nobody's a bigger quad guy than Uncle Dave here. A legend. I will go as far to say is the final boss of quads. So the final boss of quads, Dave was with us when Kyle Cullen came out and Miller and Kyle's brother and you guys were swamping on our new land and and kind of discovered that our pond just so happened to be the perfect little mutting hole and you had your electric. E-dave was in his own, he had his electric can am and boy, it's exactly what you think. You can just drive it underwater. And you just were underwater like the whole time and you're like, hey, David, if you always been a quad guy or did you ever have you ever messed around with bikes? Not like dirt bikes. I got rid of them. I used to have a couple different sport bikes. and I was younger, whatever, and it's like having a horse. It's not when you're gonna crash and hurt yourself, it's always, or not if it's always when. - If it's when, yeah. - Oh, you believe that about horses, 'cause I do too, I bet it wasn't fuck with horses. - Horse people are like, "Are you kidding me? You just don't know how to handle them." I'm like, "No, they just decide when they are sick of you." - I think I might-- (laughing) - I think I might give that explanation to Shred 80 so he can use it, 'cause it would be accurate for him, too. - I don't know. - It's a bit pretty quick on a four-wheeler. - Yeah, and it's bad, what it does. - Also, it's like, you're almost always in that muskig and I've flown off so many times and you just land, like it's like land on it. - Like Shred 80? - Shred 80? - Yeah. - What do you call it now? - Just pop up the club, I'm coming up. - Exactly, like just summer salt right into it, and just kinda like snow, but dirtier. - You'd think that front wheel would skim, like for a little, it's like a dug-in instantly, and he just, you did the classic-- - Yeah, well, I mean, that's the issue with having one wheel in the front. You know, it's, you just set up for failure across all fronts. - You know, there's never really just been set up when, there's a reason they're not around anymore. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But they're so fun, right? They're so-- - They are fun. - That's where they, that's where they do win. They are always fun, yeah. - We're a little concerned about Gav's riding abilities, though. Like, he's almost gone so far to the point of crashes where that's almost all he expects now. - Yeah, you kind of like evil can eviling himself. - Yeah, like we're gonna do a big- - He doesn't know, like almost what to do with himself if it's not crashing. - If it's not crashing, yeah. - Yeah, like, let's say we're on a solo build trip, like, yeah, yeah, we filmed a couple of good jumps, maybe they're not even us, the pro riders. Yeah, we got some good hits. Gav's like, yeah, I had like one good crash, so it'll be a good, it'll be a good look. - Totally, totally. Like, and it doesn't matter where, like he went to snowed in with, with Dave there, do you just stuff this? - He stuffed these good jumps and floor. - Yeah. - You weren't even out of the parking lot. - Oh, that's the best. - I do love it, when I crash the e-bike the other day, a lot of people were like, you need Gavin to teach you how to crash, brother. - You got to crash down, but you didn't quite have the tucking roll. - Dip the roll away and stand up and solid. - It was like sack of potatoes. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see that. Yeah, it looked like it hurt, it was as a good stop. - Are you good on that bike? - Oh, yeah. - I haven't even asked. - Yeah, Ryan asked me if I was good, and then I thought about it, and I am good. - Oh, that's good. - That was good. - That's a good point too. - That part of it, I did feel like Shred 80. Like, I kind of balanced got the win knocked on me, and then I was like, I'm okay. - Yeah, that's the best feeling when you have like a pretty gnarly, and you just get up, and you're like, man, I'm good, I totally lucked out. - I love how it's, it sounds a little harder than I wanted. (laughs) - If you got, I mean, 20 years, 20 years of YouTube, if you got in a bit. - Not terrible, like, you know, small stuff where it's like a week or two in your good, but never, I've never broken a bowl. - Okay, good. - I've never gotten some more. - Nice. - Pinky off, like, a couple of months ago at the chainsaw, that was sort of, I'm really saying that. - That was non-YouTube related. - I can't, I can't bend it. Oh, shit. - Oh, geez. - I'm working on it. It's just for handlebars now, it's good enough for a handlebar, which is good enough, but it'll get cold in the winter. - Oh, I bet. - There's no, yeah, there's, I cut that nurse, there's no feeling on this side. So you're doing something else, you look, and you have a big blood blister, you're like, "How?" - Yeah, you aren't realizing it. - That is the nice part about four wheelers though. Or, I mean, probably side-by-sides too, is with age comes the cage. - Yeah, yeah. - And you can kinda, you are more protected. I guess unless you can, you didn't work out well for them. - You just gotta have reinforced cages. - Yeah, and if you're really tall, a tall enough cage. - Not be dragged. - Like a little bubble on the top. - Yeah, just nothing that's lowered. - Yes. - I think that's all the matter for you. - Yeah, yeah. - Like a chopped cage. - Exactly. - Which sometimes tend to be the stronger ones, but I feel yeah, you, yeah. - Is this no room in there? - Yeah. - You're still, I'd lay a good, or you have any after-effects from that? - I don't have as more issues the last year, I think. - Yeah. - Or it's just like stiff and just kind of mixed and pretty sore. - You got rear-ended, pretty heavy by Evan yesterday. - Yeah. - That didn't help. - He was in a mini-cooper. - Just gonna start spinning. - And Evan, it wasn't a fucking derailleur. - Yeah, and Evan gets your match up. - What do you mean? - And Ken, he's just, "Ah!" (laughing) - He's got his second mini-coopers over his off-the-bag of the Burberry. - Oh my God. - You guys have like local fair activities like that. Like, like, combine demolition derbies, big rate racing. - Combined demolition derbies and so on. - I know, I really want to buy them. - Where did you find all these? - I know, and what's I'm saying? - Yeah, also what I'm talking about. - Oftentimes in a combine, you're the most forward, the cockpit. - That's right. - It's like, you're very unprotected in a combine. - It's just like a square glass. - Yeah. - And you can't even like, you could do the reverse. - Yeah. - But like, what if you just reversed into someone's front? You can't see, it's not like that. - I don't know, it's a dangerous version of a demolition derbies. - And they're constantly like, - Reversing. - Reversing wheelying. - Yeah. - 'Cause all the weights up front. - Gosh, that's funny. - Dude, I don't think I've ever seen this. - I've never seen a combine derbies. - I don't think I've ever seen a comb. - I could pull it up, right? - I got you. - So we have like our neighbor, 10, 15 miles down the road. He's got a combine for sale, he goes, you guys should buy it. I said, you know how it goes? If we can think of something funny to do with it or good, we'll buy it. And then he goes, yeah, you can reverse wheelie. Like super easy if you buy the header too. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to wait in front. - How much? - It was five G's for the combine. And then I think another three for the header. - Wow. - Okay, so these ones are really, oh shit. - Oh god, shit. - Just stop right there. - Okay. - Yeah. - These ones have like a makeshift header on it. - Yeah, something just like a piece. - There's some old ones, dude. - They almost, they almost look like they re, but let's go to, these ones are a little newer. Like look at that rig. - No. - What? - What? - Yeah. - That thing isn't really gonna quit either. Those ones, they take abuse for so long. - They've got torque. - I'd imagine the people that win probably just like, debede. - A tire, yeah. - That's a good point. - Finally the engine blows up from getting cooked. - Dude. We all are smashing each other. - You know what we just did yesterday, Dave, was we went to like an oval track, our friend Jake's. And then we did like the trailer loadup challenge. So four people were driving, chasing Ryan in the TRX with a trailer, trying to load up on the trailer as Ryan drove around the oval track. - Awesome. Anyone get on? - Yeah. - Yes, nice. - Evan Damier jumped into the back of Ryan's TRX. - We spent so long, you know, the wrenches spent so long reinforcing the gate, the ramp to drive up, the trailer broke in half in the front. - Oh, snapped in half. Can't really buy a trailer for cheap. The trailer was actually more expensive than two of the cars. - Yeah. - Wow, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, there's 1,600 bucks. - That's a good cheap, yeah. - No, and then it just snapped right at the tongue. So it's probably a good thing, we took care of it. - I can't believe that. - There's nothing good that's like, oh, that's a great deal. - The fact that the TRX didn't snap, now that I think about it, 'cause I was asked to-- - The TRX is more bent. - For sure. - The bend thing go on the bed? - Yeah. - Yeah, you know, it's like a metal spoon when you-- - Yeah. - It just gets easier to bend every time. - Yeah, pretty soon. - But you can always put it back straight, but it just takes less and less every time. - It has taken some abuse. - It has, but you got that vehicle-- - It is. - Just the content from this bench. - That's right. - Did you see the clip of us wheeling it? - Yes. - And the water on the back? - Yes. - Just the first one just like, "Oh, we need more weight." - Yeah, that's really what-- - That's what another car was doing. - That's really what did it in. That freaking-- - Oh, so much force on all my goodness. - Yeah, that was kind of my idea too, I felt like. And I was like, "We gotta make this TRX wheelie." - And then I just watched it then the entire frame and half and total out of $60,000. I went, "Oh, yeah." - Maybe not a good idea. - I think that was pretty awesome. - The first wheelie when it was just power wheeling, like, 60 miles an hour was okay, it was good. - It was driving it like starting the wheel. You can barely see it. - Exactly. - But still just stays in it. - I know, that's one thing he's good at. - Yes. - He is so good at just committing to staying in it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Most people check out more. - Yeah, a bit more. - Yeah, a bit more seconds. - When it comes to doing it, like a car stunt, he's like, there's no point in half-ass in this. - Yeah, yeah. - True, honestly, it's like a super power. - Yes, it is. - Yeah, I won't spoil it. But there's a car jump coming up that he's just like, "Yeah, yeah, I'll do it." I'd be happy to do it, actually. (laughing) - I love that. - So how have you seen like being a YouTuber change over the last 20 years? - We have a lot of YouTuber friends and we're OGs. - And we've been doing it for 10 years. - 'Cause you've seen, you've always done your own thing, but you've seen that that daily vlog trend, you've seen the videos be eight minutes, you've seen them be an hour. - We've made videos back before you were even making money. You would've been posting YouTube videos strictly for the love of it. - That's true. - And that's how I started. You would just take videos and upload them so your friends could see what you're doing. - You want to share it through, yeah, exactly. - 100%. And then it took maybe, when I moved to Lake and then bought an ATV and then a few guys around, 'cause no one went out in trucks when we moved up to Lake. Everyone had quads. So I bought a quad or whatever we started going out and that's really when stuff started to gain traction. And I'm telling you back then, there was like four good ATV videos on YouTube. Four. - Mark Freeman. - One, two, three, four. - Yeah, like Mark, Mark was super OG. - Yeah, we grew up watching Mark Freeman. - Yeah, yeah. - Boys, you ever go back and watch your guys' collab with him? How awesome that is. You guys are just, you're starting. - Yeah. - Do we do an outro, or like it would be awesome. - Yeah, we were just talking about it the other day actually. - That's awesome. It's just the, you know, the progression of everything and his crazy other things. Yeah. - I'm just glad we've progressed past our beef. You're maybe the first person we ever had beef with. - Oh yeah, the first one. - I was like, wait, that was the best, yeah. - Maybe it was just our fan, our commenters against the originality of what we had done. I'm sure we saw your video of the jet ski jump. And then Jake thought it was a good idea. But you made it, it looks a damn easy. - Man, it just, for the amount of time we put it, we were there for like 15 minutes. Just laying some puckboard on the bank, shoveled a little bit. - That's how it was like too. - That's it? - Beautiful thing. I think if I remember correctly, I just remember you commenting on the video, at least I landed it. - Yup, yup, yup. - All right, and then people probably-- - Oh yeah. - Oh there is beef, yeah. - I was going to say, I don't think Jake or us tried to steal the idea from a cop, you or anything. - I think Jake just generally has just drove past roads like that and it's like, man, it'd be sweet to have a jet ski. Just like you probably did. - 100% as on my drive to work. - Did it, really? - I bet I could clear the stuff. - 'Cause I remember once we started the comps, like what, someone's done that already. Like I thought we did something new, you know? And then it was like, it's hard to be original. - Oh, as somebody's done something. - You're about to starting now. - Anything you could think of, there's a million people doing it already. - Also a barrier to entry is just so much higher. - I mean, you need better equipment, but also you need the quality of the product. - Bro, when I started, there was no editing. - Yeah, it would take clips and upload 'em. Like that was for two years. - I remember like 10 years ago when we started, you could probably get three million views taking a Lamborghini and doing some donuts in the snow. - We didn't have Lamborghini's or anything like that, but I just remember those were like big videos at the time. - Yeah, so it's like, with a video doing that. - Like just think how easy that would be. If you did that today, no one would care. - That's like the lamest thing. You gotta go jump your Lamborghini like 100 feet. - And that's what one thing I found over the years is trying to create good content without painting yourself in a corner where you're constantly one-uping yourself. And that's where I see people. Like you guys are really great at just coming up with ideas that other people haven't done. And it's awesome, but there's always a chance of people getting hurt, but the risk versus reward is in check. Where you get someone say like Whistlin, how many times can you burn down an exp? You don't know what I mean. Like he's kind of, you start to paint yourself in a corner. - It says the bar pretty high for himself, like burning down a Ferrari or-- - 100% where do you, like where do you go from there without people saying, oh, you're falling off? Well, bro, there's only, there's a ceiling to everything, right? - That's true, and that's in conversation. - Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. That we've had many times, and CJ said it from the start, like you just can't go off and set your bar to high. You can't go out and just like get yourself locked in a corner, then we'll say, you can spend more money, you can get more creative, or you can get more risky business. - Risky. - Risky. - And that stays true. - Yes. - I think the one thing I was gonna say, like the thing we try to do is like, obviously you have your activity, but it's like we bring this personality into it and it's a group dynamic. And we have, I truly believe like the best, most diverse group of friends. - 100%. - Like you got just so many different characters. - Yeah. - And I think that's truly what makes Cboys TV our channel, the thing, that's agreed. - From outside our look at it. - Yeah, it's not like we're the best rider or driver or whatever, and I mean, the people we do have on are very, very, very good. And sometimes we have the best in the world nowadays, but especially from the start, it was always just more so about relatability and just having fun, being positive. - Exactly, who doesn't want to watch people having a good time? - Yeah. - You're watching the video, you're having a good time. - That comes down to the bottom. As long as you're doing something, you're having fun, you're always gonna have an audience you necessarily don't have to be. I might die if I do this. - Yeah, and some of those are actually my favorite. Not where, again, not a blatant copy, but this Miata skate park, it's been done before. But those are my favorite when we go out and do it and people watch us love doing it. They love seeing us doing it. They love seeing us love doing it. - Yes. - And then all the stuff that happens, right? - Boom, something happens, punt the one round so far. It's so good, right? Go back, makes and changes, come back. It's good. - Sometimes it doesn't really need to go perfectly right for it to be good. - Like, it's like, as long as no one gets hurt, it's just like, oh, that was hilarious. You couldn't have wrote that. - And that's what I did for years and my wife will attest to this. We'll be, say, on some mountain top run, some big mission and on track machines and something goes wrong. And all I'm thinking about is dealing with this, getting fixed and getting off this mountain and she'll be like, should we film this? I'll be like, no, like I just want, and then after you're like, why didn't we film that? - Yeah. - That's what happens. - That was where the good stuff actually went. - In your head, all you're thinking is, you know, I don't want anyone to get worried. I don't want anyone to have a good, a bad time. So let's just get this fixed. It's like, everything's content. And film it, whether you use it or not. You don't have to use it, but if you don't film it, then you're kind of, as well. Is she your full-time filmer? - Yeah, she's way more than that, she's, she gave it everyone a track, man. - Full-time everything. - Yeah, totally. And especially like, when I had my job, you know, we'd do it on the side. When you had time, you'd do it. And I think that's where over our 20 years, our channel has always been like this. Because when you have time, you make videos, when you don't have time, you don't make videos. And so it was really hard for us to hold our really core, we have our small core audience that's been there for a long time. But it's tough, if you're not on a really good schedule. Like you guys, no, Kyle is really finding out is when you're on a really good schedule, people are like Thursday. Like you guys know, if you're an hour late, posting like you're here in a bullet, right? - Yeah, yeah. - You get people anticipating that. And so our whole career was always, you know, job first, kids, you know, so much other stuff took precedent. So, and then you just do it when you did it. And we're just lucky that we're still sort of relevant after doing it for 20 years. Like it's hard to think of another channel that's been going that long, that's still. - Honestly, I don't know anyone who's been, I mean, there is obviously some, but you're in a very, very small group, which is super respectable. - Yeah. - I mean, we're at year 10, but whenever people always ask, I always say I want to do two decades on YouTube. So like we got another 10 years left in us. But I'd say like when we really started catching our striders when we came into it with more of like a structured approach and had more of like a strategy, you know, and just there's so many different elements, which we don't need to go into on here. But at the same time, with that structured approach, things, keeping the chaos and like enough freedom to like let things happen. Whenever people ask, I always say it's organized chaos. - Yep. - That's just. - 100% yeah. I mean, before we get too far away from it, I do want to give you your flowers on that Jetsky jump. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Like, can we watch it? - Yeah, yeah, I think we should. Like so when we were at Zorba's, it was like a whole pile of us. And you were kind of telling us the original story of how it happened, what it was, it was very impromptu. And you said you kind of had a whole crowd there. I'm like, how electric must that have been? What year was that? - 17 I think. - 2017 and you just buck the whole road, landed it perfectly, you had a whole crowd. And then I was also laughing when you're like, you know, that was a, as a fun clip for me. So I'll repost it every once in a while. And then our fans would still get fired up. And be like, see, this, see boy, he's already did this. - Yeah, all, every time no matter. And for a while there, that's, that's my buddy's video of it. - Oh man. (laughs) (laughs) - That was so good. - So clean. - It was so clean. - It was such a good popper. - Literally perfect. I bought that, that's you do the, the day before. - So that was, what year was that? You did it in 2018? - 17 I think. - 2017. - Now it's pull up, Jakes. - Oh, it says, maybe it was 18. Yeah, it was 18. - Pull up Jakes. I gotta watch, I gotta watch Jakes fucking jump, dude. And then ours became such a big thing 'cause we got the tickets. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's funny. A lot of people still assume that was like our, - Ooh, that's what you got here for. - Great, 'cause like, we were on local news. - Yes. - Yeah, I'm gonna do it. We're like, I'm like, yo, we grabbed the camera. She's about to go. - And I'm telling you, I did the same thing. I forgot my GoPro, I didn't have the drone. I'm like, I gotta do it because if I don't do it, now I don't know if I'm gonna do it. - Dude, look at this rap, same ramp. Just, we got like a sandbag under that. - She'd apply with it in some sandbags. - We out. - Mike, you really made this dramatic. This one, I got it. - It just kicked them enough for it, just popped them off. - Yeah, Jakes, they were a bit of jumper. - No, he really has it. - Yeah, I was just listening. - But the phone is kind of like Batman. - He's wearing full-blown snowmobile gear. - Man, didn't he? - This is the handlebar. - Yeah, he did pretty hard. - He just died pretty good. - That clip before, this one was from a local farmer that came to watch. - Oh, yeah. - That was great. We were laughing so hard. - Oh my God. - It's funny too, because it was that year, and I guess we were, Mike was a dubstep. - What, can you pull that up? What was the date of that? - Yeah, one year after you. - Just over 29. - I was 17. We did do it before, not yet. - He's like, "We got it, you did the Jansky jump for you." - Oh, yeah, 100%. But it just has the nastiest dubstep. - Oh, I mean, I can't pull up the nast. I could show you the nastiest one. - Well, that'd be right. But it plays on the news. - Oh my God. - It was like the song. - They left the song, and it was just so aggressive. And it really does add this flavor to it of like, - What are these kids? - What the hell's going on here? - I know we've talked about this before, but nothing could have prepared me for the local people assume that was our claim to fame. And at the time, even seven years ago, that was just one video of many that we were putting out. - Bro, we put it in a week too. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it was, - You obviously saw Jake run it back. - Yeah. - Pretty recently. - I said, "Oh, like landed a butterball." Like barely, yeah. (laughing) - He still didn't come off. - He still didn't land it. I was literally outloaded and I brought it to him. - I said, "You have to do it." - That's too much. - You should have him up on the back. - Oh, I hope he landed. - How far are you from us? - 12 hours. - 12, okay. - I said, "I don't know about it." - You drive that for a Jetsie jump? - 100%. - 100%. - I think you have to drive 12 hours to get anywhere in bed. - Absolutely. - As I say, I was like, "Oh, how far is it?" And I'm like, like we're in the middle of nowhere. Like you drive 12 hours to start your drive to where you're going, you get to the edge of the province and then you can start. - Wow. - Well, you actually, that is true because you're on your way to Heydays and you were actually like an hour from Heydays backtracked all the way up here for this. Appreciate that. - Yeah, no problem. - Yeah, just the way things worked out, like we had to stop in and see evil. I got to ride like, drive a like a 500 horsepower maverick car. - Oh, really? - Really? - How was that? - Oh, it was insane. It was so much fun. So first I went for a ride with Jimmy the owner. He's driving on the passenger and I'm like, okay, I've been in lots of fast stuff. And Jimmy, is it newly owned now or new? - No, no, it's a Cony and he's been owner. It started in like 2011, 2012 and his garage was snowmbeals and it's like they have one here and I think one in Phoenix. Like they're pretty big time now as far as two years. - Yeah, it's like, it might even be one. Maybe it's, I don't know, it's insane. It's a big block. Like they built the motor to 1150cc from 999 and biggest turbo they got and biggest everything they got. Running on E85. So anyways, first gear is so short. So let's get into second and then punches it. And I thought it was ready. I got so much butterflies. I thought it was, I thought it was gonna pass out. Like not even any, like if we did it again, it probably wouldn't happen but the first time. And so I'm like, oh, and then he's like, oh, you want to drive, yeah, sure. I'm like, here you got to get in with me and I'm like, okay, she's gonna get the shit out of her. - So I do it and so I'm like, how was that? She's like, it's pretty good. (laughing) - She's used to just being a passenger. You're not, you're more used to riding. - Yeah, that's what it was. - Yeah, it's like Evan. - Yeah, that's passenger hay. - Dude, I was riding with Mike earlier today and his truck that he just got. - And I was scared too. (laughing) - To hear if a dude who's actually terrifying, I was, I was like, mug him mug him like this. - You don't want him going on the ditch. - And I mean, and then I told him this won't make you feel any better. I was like, but if I want to kept her on for another second, I think we'd have crashed. - Well, he goes, dude, it's a good thing you told me to light up because if I wound up, I would've sure would've crashed. (laughing) - I was like, oh shit, that reminds me of that. - All right, let me out of here. - Just peeking up high horse side by side when side by side blog built the two jays. - I was just thinking about that. - I had that same feeling when I lost. - Gosh dang, that thing was hard. - No, it was scary, dude. (screaming) - Just like, do they still have that? - Yeah, I think they do. They sold a lot of stuff, like Doug's sold a lot. - Doug actually just reached out and said, you guys want to buy a hell force. - And then I really gave him the same answer. I said, well, if we can come up with something funnier, cool to do with it, it's probably a lot, but it's a price tag, I'm one of those. - Got to be expensive. - No, he didn't say, he's like, if there's interest, we'll work some out. - We bought the two JZ. - The two JZ, I don't feel ever so interested in. - That thing's cool, who is that? - Not the hell forces in. - I think it's that Doug. - It was like a divorce. - I think so. - Who got that in the divorce? - Well, we were the kids in the divorce, like we had those guys a lot. - Yeah. - That's both. - And it all went down and we're just like, what the heck? - Yeah. - The guys kinda wanted to go outside by side. - And great guys, they were great guys to hang, every time we hung out with them and it was usually at Polaris launches, we'd be in Vegas and all of a sudden. - Oh, they're fun in Vegas. - The best times. - We were in Vegas with them too. - Honestly, a little too fun in Vegas. But yeah, I mean, Mike watched a guy, her girl eat a cigarette with Doug, remember that? - Yeah. (laughing) - Mike was smoking in the casino. - I ate the fucking cigarette. - She like, a security guard came up and was like, you can't smoke right here in this spot. And the security guy was coming over and the guy, girl, whatever. - That was the trans guy. - Got so nervous, you just ate it. (laughing) - Imagine. - Can you do that? - Dude, that's actually, that's actually fucking hard. - And then everybody went, "Why would you do that?" - Oh, geez. - Where can you smoke and vape? - I was confused by that too. - What is it, the one spot in the whole town? - I can't remember what the hell. - Yeah, something. - It's 'cause they were on the second floor. You can only smoke on floor. - Oh, first floor. - Oh, classic. - Even all the smoke probably goes up there. - Yeah, exactly. - That's really the only, obviously, other downsides of Vegas. But really, it's just like, you know, 'cause it's been so long since it's kind of been out of restaurants and out of, you know, you don't realize how, if you don't smoke. - Yeah. - How much it actually smells. - Yeah. - Well, you're shit, good in Europe. - Yeah, hey, yeah. - They still smoke and it's out there. - We've been a few times, it's just nowhere. - And they see end smoking inside. - Yeah, everyone smokes, little kids. - Yeah. - They eat you little kid, they eat healthy. - That's kind of funny. - They eat healthy, but they're, everyone smokes. - So, yeah, pretty much, yeah, they, you know, they get their exercise in by walking. - Yeah. - A lot of like, they got, you know, good bread, good bread. - Yeah. - Yeah, I don't know why, but like, if you have like, celiac, you know, you have to eat gluten free. - Yeah. - You can eat, yeah, you can eat bread over there. - Honestly, it makes sense. - Yeah, it's the preservatives and everything, but I'm vaping. - Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Greta has to eat gluten free here. - She does not eat any gluten. - And she was, she could eat bread. - She could, she could house a loaf of bread over there. - Wow. - That's crazy, yeah. - That's totally nuts. - It's because they've, they've sprayed all these, what, pesticides and chemicals on that, like the wheat. - It's a lot of you know, wheat. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So our wheat is different from their wheat, 100 percent. - It makes sense. - It makes sense. - And I think we're the same in the same. - Yeah, I'm pretty sure. - And how do you feel about, um, becoming a 51st state? (laughs) - I thought you said 54s date for date. - The more stuff that goes on with that, like I just, it's just, to me it's comical. - As a Canadian. - For us, for a person that works and has a job and, what he's doing makes so much sense. - But Alberto was saying, they weren't they saying, we would be okay with, - Yeah. - Being the nice, I don't know what the exact number is, but they have like the, say the fifth largest oil reserve in the world, like maybe it's not fifth, but Canada in general is like third, but Alberto is like, it's, it's oil sands was kind of crappy oil, it's hard to get out of the oil sands, but everyone's like, oh, they could never do it on like, just run some numbers, they could easily do it. - They'd be like, they'd be their own. - Yeah, they'd be like that ninth largest GDP in the world and just in one province or something crazy like that. - Oh, shit. - You have to look at it. - Wait, are you in Alberta? - We're in Saskatchewan, which we have a lot as well. They're just more, I think they have more, we're really good too. - It'd be really nice if the West. - The West. - If the West would separate like us, like Manitoba, Manitoba's kind of liberal too. I don't know man. - There's no easy answer. - Yeah. - Okay, got it, got it. You're between. - Yes, you're between, okay. - Right in the middle, we are. - Who are you? - Montana, North Dakota. - Saskatchewan. - How close are you to Alaska? - Pretty far, 'cause it's so far west. We're like so central. - Okay. - You can't really drive up that part. - There's just not, where we are is actually center of the province, but above us is just nothing. I'd like to go to Alaska. - Yeah, us too. I think I'd be totally, I'd be totally in for that. Yeah, that'd be a blast. - 100%. - Like it's just, it's like the wide open, just wild west up there. - I want to do like a fishing video up there with us. Like we've done two of them now. We did ice fishing and we did a summer fishing. - Yeah. - And it's not like our typical style of content, but we all enjoy doing it. And it seems like the viewers enjoy it. So we're like, let's do it again, but I'm trying to think of what's a new version. So like if we went salmon fishing, no, I mean, yeah, like I said Ryan and I did it in Michigan and it was incredible. Dude, it'd be like us racing around our drift track and then like the next is like our fishing video and then it'd be like going to the Nuremberg ring fishing in Alaska. - And there's also the snowmobile element. Like I just think the last go would be a lot of fun. And we've gone a lot of places and we just haven't done that. We tend to kind of go back to the same areas a lot, just because yeah, you just are so familiar. - We don't know 'em and we have friends there. - The toughest part is the first time doing something. 'Cause you don't know so much stuff. - Especially when you have to make a video on it, you're like I need to know what's going on. - 100%. - I want to just rewind a little bit. Since you are a true obviously OG of YouTube, I was trying to think of like a pioneer. - I would say, yeah, yeah. - You're a pioneer, I was thinking Pilgrim. I was just trying to kill. - You're a true pioneer of YouTube. We've been on it since the start. What was it like, like obviously initially it was just like these kind of silly videos, just people posting whatever. There was like the original YouTubers, like Fred. - Yeah. - And Ray William Johnson. - Ray William Johnson, I remember him. - Yeah. - Jenna Marbles. - Jenna Marbles, there's all those, and you know, you were kind of in that class and then they have retired or they've stopped or they've done whatever and things. And you've stuck with it, but you were there when like YouTube first started paying people. What was that like? Like how did you hear about that? What was the pay, like was it shitty pay? Was it where they overpaying? - So it was very cool. So basically, yeah, like I said, the first couple of years was kind of just like two years of YouTube was bit like like 12 videos type thing. Like you, you know, you weren't posting on a schedule or anything, but so once I moved up, bought a TV, We start doing some ATV videos and some of them. started catching on and you'd get an email from YouTube hey would you like to put this video and they'd only pick the one that was doing good on this monetization and so you'd look at it like this is a scam delete you know next yeah next month you'd get this you know email maybe that one and another one how many views were you getting for them like maybe like 80,000 something quite a bit of views especially back then because you got to consider not that many people were actively going on to YouTube but it was like the fifth that's a lot of views the fifth view TV that's probably not that little but they're just I think what really helped us is we start out so early and there just wasn't a lot like a lot of like you were searching a TV that's what came up exactly means he's your little kids we used to watch snowmobile waterscapes we would watch Mark Freeman we would watch we used to watch a lot of Baltimore City the bike life stuff oh yeah the 12 o'clock and we were just like we want to do that yeah yeah yeah so they would hit you up with this email yeah and so for the first half of many months you're just like you're just like and then I'm like well man they keep messaging me there's something because you you talk to people no one knew anything no one did it no one had any information there's no Instagram or anything to even like see other youtubers and talk to them yeah and yeah to try to get hold of like you know like some possible so you're just like there's no you can't make money on YouTube what is it what are they even talking about so then yeah like Google search and and yeah turns out yeah monetization whatever so yeah a third month whatever yeah sure sign me up so whatever they put a couple on or whatever and and one month goes by and you make like like four dollars and you're like okay this is like obviously gonna go nowhere and but the next month they picked out like a couple more and it just kept snowballing and then I would message them saying is there a way to just put every video I upload on to this program and and they're like actually yes we could we'll invite you to be a YouTube partner at the time that's what you need to be a partner so that everything you upload are automatically and how many subscribers do you have at that point man I don't even it took me a long time to get to 10,000 I remember so was under 10,000 I but also like the biggest person on YouTube probably didn't even have a million yeah yeah like everything down there scaled down like they were one thousand of what it is today pretty cool you probably had like a legitimate person you could just email I'm now like you yeah so try to get hold of some money as possible well what year did YouTube get bought by Google I don't even know you know so it's like YouTube was running their own yeah yeah they were running themselves and putting ads on the videos like now it's you know Google biggest company one of the biggest companies in the world they've got ads everywhere right so it's just plugged in Google bought YouTube in 2006 right away wow yeah and YouTube itself only started in 2005 okay so yeah what a Google fan Google was about it for 1.6 billion in 2006 that's crazy man they should have held it that was a quick turn on the whoever started yeah the one 2000 2006 bro yep yep that's a banger could do it at the zoo that that's the guy that's crazy I didn't think it was that that early wow okay so yeah so you got a YouTube partner and then it used to they had mail you out of paper check and you had to get to a hundred dollars before they'd mail you to check yep so it took months and months of you know thinking whatever and you never I never did it for that you just did it for you know to share with your body so didn't it didn't ever matter and then you got your first check and you're like this is if I could make enough to buy a new camera that shot in like 720 instead of like you know or just like you know and then a few months later boom you could buy a new camera and it just you know just kept snowballing and yeah you man it was it just the whole run has been there's been so many people you meet that's the best part for us is the places you get the experiences you get to partake in the people you meet the fans you get to run into you'll be at some place way far away and someone will come up to you and or you'll be at a mud park and some guy will come up and being I I've been watching since I was 12 and I'm on 22 and already 30 like it's like it's like it just blows your mind and you're just you know for us nothing's really changed you still do it we just go out and have fun with our buddies you know film it put it on and yeah it's just such a such a good time it's cool to people that it gets you in the room with yes being YouTubers and just like you know because we're all like minded yes that's we all get along yes so then it's just finding people that think the same way and operate the same way you don't get the you know what it takes you know all the behind the scenes you know all that stuff and you kind of we don't have must be nice people you know like yeah and and now it's getting to the point where I'm like it it honestly is like we've been grinding for 20 it's super nice like you know like we move to the lake and we're doing this I'm doing my job and we start to look after people's cabins because people are only there in the summer whatever so all winter and then they come up in the summer they don't want to cut their grass you don't want to do it you don't have time you got nine other things going on but they're like off you to the point of money where you just can't say no so here I am cutting grass and and and that's what's playing through my mind is the people that must be nice and I'm like no one realizes all the stuff you do because you need clutches for your quad yeah yeah you're you're cutting grass literally cutting grass for your neighbor to make money to buy parts to make better videos to you know just the stuff that goes no one cares about the journey they just focus on what you have now why would you be filming and editing 13 hours a day they'll tell us like man you guys just blew up so quick I'm like bro we've been on YouTube for 10 years what do you mean yeah yeah hasn't felt quick so since this is the era that we started CJ I remember said you guys got to talk to the camera you guys got to talk to the cuz I came up I came up in montage era where I was like whatever we were doing scootering add a song to it yeah one song yeah yeah so I'm wondering if you remember like a bulb do you remember being like having that turning point of like I'm gonna give updates I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to the camera like it's my buddy yeah and you know it took me a long time because on that beef good rich event where I met Flair I ran into Matt from demolition ranch and Matt's the coolest dude and he's so he's got such a business-oriented mind and it was so funny he doesn't know know this but because they're like you get a list of people who are going on this thing and I look I'm like oh Matt I would love to meet him so they're like they're putting everyone pairs in this truck yet a drive two hours to the event in these new trucks with the with the beef good rich tires on and and so they put me in with so-and-so and I just went to late he said okay if I wait and get in the truck with Matt oh he's he's not gonna be here for two more hours I'm like that's fine I'll wait so so when he got there I was like oh hey you know blah blah he never watched videos whatever I was there maybe a maybe around three hundred and some K subs or whatever and so we talked the whole way there and he just the the nicest dude and just two guys chatting and we get there and then obviously that night in the hotel he will look up a few videos and in the morning he just came he said listen videos are great you got to start being in the being in the video you got to start turning the camera really start cool because people will will will start following you no matter almost no matter what you're doing you know type type thing like that and but it even took me a while after that because it's not it's it's not easy to just say cool I'm gonna talk to the camera like it's my best friend hundred percent yeah yeah not a flip you switch yeah all right switch you flip and you run into people like in they feel like they know you because they sort of do because you've been talking to them for for a number for a good while now so yeah I love hype people up when they say I feel like I know you I'm sorry for fanboy I'm like you do yeah you do you know as you're talking to me right now hundred percent it is true not saying that people when the camera comes on you don't add maybe a bit of a layer you're the same person you are on or off camera it's just a it's like a like you know like a plus 10 plus 20 of your normal personnel you're there we get that all the time you and my wife will go somewhere oh you're exactly like you're like totally like we're just would really suck to be acting for 20 years we are like all of us but there's also other people that we've met that definitely aren't so very true 100 percent not totally not ever sometimes you're like yeah hundred percent you're like who's on yes and that's what's nice when you run into someone and it's like yeah like when you see yeah we we've seen it when they they turn it on and you like you literally go whoa what is this off and you're just like what the fuck was that the crazy is a lot of times they're really fucking good at it like if I said hey can you do this ad read for that can over there you're like oh yeah and then you kind of read it's it's kind of little awkward but you go hey yes sell me that fucking pen over there and they're like just like yeah yeah just get it into it just yeah yeah give them that it's a different talent but I wouldn't want to have to act for yeah it is a nice for you maybe we've said this before it's a beauty of like having a big group for us like you can just jump in with a joke that maybe you've been trying to think of for the last like five minutes yeah like is that's what helps having a big group like oh you guys I don't know I think I think you got me to find a thought and yeah yeah you jump in with a joke at the right time and it's because you you have some time to think about it you've forgotten hate being a YouTuber for 20 years man I've always said like no matter who you are what videos you put up there man there's gonna be people out there that'll just you know just hate you just because you seem to be doing okay you look like a personally clearest fricking some natural disaster happens he gets in his helicopter spend his money taking him his starlink so they can contact their families you know and then you look and people are just shitting on him for this or that in your list you have haters that I think it comes with anything with life if you're doing okay rather than the person look at themselves like why am I not successful you know they'll come up with a bunch of silly reasons why you're successful because you're luckier, you did this, you know, it's because it's a lot of hard work and you don't want to do that. So you'd rather just hate on someone, you know, who puts in the time, rather than just, I want to do that. Well, then work towards it. We couldn't have did what we did if you'd went to work, came home and sat on the coach. You just can't. You have to be hustling five different side things and it just, man, it's tough, but you get to a point where it's like, wow, you're, it's really paying off. It's much easier to criticize than to put in the work. You got to take the initiative. I was going to say one of the things, even though like, you know, you get hate and it seems like the bigger we get, almost, you know, we don't, we're really lucky. We really don't get much hate, but there is some haters now that you start to see just I think because of the larger audience. But the thing that I actually really enjoy is people are genuinely excited when we and they're waiting for us to make this video. And I think it really brings a lot of joy when it drops and they, they just feel good about it. And I know what it feels like to beat that because I was a YouTube kid. Like I watch YouTube videos and like shout out Danny Duncan. Like I was so, when I, if I saw him post on my gosh, like he was like, I'm, I'm like saving that for like this moment. I'm going to like have some food and watch it and yeah. And like, like seriously shout out Danny. Like I'm like, kind of buddies with him. Now we text and talk and it feels good being able to work towards that every day. Okay. With these guys, you get one message from some dude that has fought through cancer and says that watch your videos. Help me. You get one of those and it'll wipe out every hate or you have just be, you know, it's like exactly. You help someone through the maybe most difficult part of their life with just your videos. You get one of those messages or some dude a dad with his two-year-old kid, you know, those will get those all the time. So I like to say with you guys, you try to keep it as clean as you can because you never know who's watching. Those videos, like we're just, we watch your videos all the time, me and my little boy. It's our special little time and it just, it almost doesn't, for me, it just after being 20 years, it's only so many times that you recall something where you're just like, you kind of like, say, say with my job, right? You know, you get yelled at so much at just the stuff I don't like is when they start critiquing carry and like, oh, what was that annoying voice behind the cat? And I just delete those. She's like, yeah, she's, she's my best friend and been here through this whole thing and she's out waist-deep and muskig filming, that's who she is. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Why would, why do people feel like they should say some things like that? Yeah. Like what is, what is wrong with you that you have to feel like you have to beat someone down? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think in that way. Like you talked about the people in jail. They just, some people think differently. Yeah. Some compulsion. Yeah. Yeah. Some people should try to live and some people just don't. It's crazy. It's crazy way to live. Yeah. But. Yeah, it seems miserable. It does. So you're going to have to hold it down at eight days. Yeah. Yeah. Man. We've been neighbors for the last three years. Yes. We've been neighbors. Yeah. I don't know if they know, but they're going to know. I think it'll be good though for you. Like I think you guys are still going to have a lot of fun. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's always a good time. It's just, yeah. Like you guys bring, you guys bring a lot of, you know, a lot of everything, right? A lot of fans, a lot of excitement, a lot of cool stuff. And it's going to be, it'll be a little bit different. I'll let you know how it goes. Yeah, let us know how it goes. It'll be different for sure. Hey, this was always always a good event. Always. For us, you know, so I don't think a lot of imaginary beef out there. But, you know, you don't view it like I know none of us at any point were like, now that we're not there. Watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Eight years old. I was just trying to crush me. It's a blast. It's also not. We weren't propping. I'll pay days by any means. Yeah. Million people together. No, it just, it got to a point. I mean, you saw it. We were having an event inside of an event. Yes. It was just felt like we were, yeah, we're kind of almost messing it up. Like it was getting like so many people in my eyes. They should have been taking steps to make that easier for you guys not. I think they definitely could have made it better for both of us. Yes. I will say that. But it's okay. We're going to start doing our own events now and it's fun doing new stuff. 100% doing some new stuff and I'm bummed because hey days was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Like in the aspect of going as a normal person, like we could really walk around. Yeah. Yeah. But it was fun like at night running around losing my appendix. Who came in with me at the shirt like three years ago? Yeah. To the backwards. Yeah. The cruise around. That was so fun. That was super fun. No, that was actually my plan was to go to hey days, run under the radar. I mean, obviously not trying to like not meet people. Yeah. Hit the swaps. Yeah. Maybe even put a little mustache on or something. Hit the swaps. Go to the backwards party like do all that, which I'll do next year if I have the chance. Octane is also running an event this weekend that we are not a part of. So there's that. Obviously, that already happened. Yeah. And then we have, yeah, Shred Fest. It's definitely going to be weird though, not going because we've done it for so many years. Yeah. And it's kind of like this, this turning point in the year where you're like, okay, now it's fall. Yeah. And like, you know, and then you're like, now we're looking forward towards winter and just whatever. Yeah. But this will be the first time in like 15 years we're having gone to hey. Yeah. And Ryan and I've been going for like nine or yeah, yeah, I've been going, you know, probably 12 years. Yeah. A little bit after you guys. And it's always so fun. It is. You know, we're just, it is. So you're holding it down for us. It's crazy that just the giant like set of trailers and RVs and some of the old parts in a field. Yeah. Such a big event. Thousands and grass drags. We won't forget about that. Yeah. Yeah. The fun part about it. Something else like it either. Yeah. The fun part about it though was like, like the people that you were with and like the friends that we've made just like through that some will be like industry, you know, David Trent, Uncle Sane. So many guys, I'm probably forgetting, but it's like, yeah, exactly a good place to sort of network, right? And meet people. Maybe you wouldn't normally run across or very cool. Well, Dave. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time. Coming out of your way. A period of. For the first five years, under the belt. Yeah. It was just not bad. He's good. That was good. Yeah. Damn. He's a good talker. He's a good talker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You go check his channel out. He's been on there for 20 years. If you like our videos, you're going to like his, yeah, exactly. And we got to make it up. Oh, I got the best video idea as well, a dual stark swapped anything, 160 horsepower could be a golf cart. Doesn't matter. 160 horsepower is bolt on whatever muskig tires we need. Boom. There's your build. Come up and the test. There we go. Perfect. Love it. Yeah. We're ready. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just one little step over province. Boom. He's there. Let's get our matte black ram and Corvette giveaway going on head to cebo is tv.com. If you've five dollars you spend and gets you one entry, check it out. Thank you. And truck is beautiful too. It is. Of all the giveaways, you guys have man. How's that feel? Like you guys have some of the best giveaways on freaking YouTube, which is saying something cool. Tell people it's similar to our content, we were trying to switch it up in the best way possible every single giveaway and every single video. Yeah. But we do a big, you know, like they do a big risk is $180,000 give away 100% to know. People don't realize that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to keep it exciting. I said to talk. It said, see boys, if you giveaways are my generation's power ball. Oh. I was like, it's like an awesome way by the way. It's really good. It's seen some comments from wives that are like seriously stop with the badass giveaways. Yeah. Yeah. Closet's just full. We got to do one for the moms. Come on. Yeah. Or at least one of the vehicles black Friday. Black Friday. Black Friday. Yeah. Black Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Mom to win. Finally. We're going to the family. Yeah. The husband's getting a badass. Yeah. Oh, there's something. Oh, so I wasn't here, but the red, white and blue winners came and picked up their cars. The muscle car giveaway and the Hellcat guy was just mobbing the Hellcat, right? Oh, yeah. This I have Mike's stories. The white Mustang didn't get picked up. That one's all land made. That's getting delivered. Wow. Yeah. The Hellcat guy did a burnout right away. Yeah. He had to. He had to. That's so sick. He was like, should be. Sorry. I don't really know what I'm doing. I was like, dude, I feel the same way all the time this year. So whoever wins this next giveaway with the C7 900 horsepower, Corvette, either we'll ship it to you or you can come to the compound and burn the set of tires off of it or just even do one burnout, save the tires, but they can do whatever. And then haul it on the trailer with Mike's badass ram on your new truck, so it's good. 40s. 40s. 40s. Alright. See you. Okay.