In this podcast episode, the hosts explore the idea that while love is a fundamental and powerful force, it may not be sufficient to address all human experiences or spiritual evolution. They argue that an "unadulterated pursuit of happiness" offers a more complete solution, as it inherently includes essential components like personal freedom and truth, allowing individuals to engage with a wider spectrum of life beyond love alone. The discussion progresses to higher spiritual states such as bliss and "full divine identity," which involve recognizing one's divine nature, exercising the power to architect one's life, and transcending social conditioning to achieve unadulterated self-expression. The hosts conclude that true empowerment comes from actively creating a fulfilling life within a spiritual framework, moving beyond passive spirituality to transform human experience and overcome separation.
[Music] Hi, I'm Liz. And I'm Reya. Welcome to Karma's My Bitch, a podcast about sex, love, magic, desire, purpose, bliss, and how life isn't simply the stories we tell ourselves. So I was at this Lenny Kravitz concert in Atlantic City a few months back. He was like really trying to like hammer home this message of like let love rule. And love can do everything. It can like conquer any war and you know it's best thing ever and transcend all space and time. But it's interesting because we're at a place and a point in our evolution now in our consciousness where we can see maybe not necessarily like maybe it can't do everything. Even though we've talked a lot about what love can do which is a lot. Are we talking about lowercase love, uppercase love, all caps love? What's the best love? All the less. All the less. Okay, so let's I know that some of these episodes have been a little bit review but it's just so we can kind of take it to that next elevated meaning. Especially with these final episodes of season 14 we really are elevating them above and beyond where we would normally spiritually. We've always said and we've always understood that focusing on love, like lowercase love, we used to believe that we could overcome like all the ills of separation and move forward in 5D. Yeah, because if I'm not holding you on hold it together we make a whole. And you know love, okay from that love I mean it was kind of because it was born out of separation in all of our like, karmic ickiness. Really it was it was a half-ass solution but it was the best we had. And it was a lot better than some of the other options available to us which was just constantly killing everybody else in our way and our ourselves in that self-destructive manner. We then understood love is shining our light. That's beautiful. And that's something we can do and we don't stop doing. By the time we get to bliss however it kind of gets folded into the greater bliss vibration. Yeah, which we discussed in the last season where it's like being bliss with me, which is like love but even bigger. Yeah. Yeah, so you know love gets us through, can really help us with our karmic undoing process and really does help us with you know in magic as well right? Because we talked about how fundamental it is to the power in magic. Believing that love is always going to be enough is what actually keeps us from really finding all the ways in which we can really help our world and help ourselves. And what's interesting and I cannot believe that this that this is what came through. Because they're like okay we're just going to put love in a corner. We're not dismissing it. We're not disposing of it. We're not saying okay it's gotten us as far and now we're done with it. It's always going to be fundamental to our way of being. But the solution is the pursuit of happiness. Which diverges from bliss. So I mean there's a lot here that I'm just like loyering this a little bit. Yes exactly. Okay. Well we never said bliss was the solution to it all. Bliss was just an evolution. Okay. And the end point. The highest vibration we can get to. But we also acknowledge not everybody was going to do it. Yes. Yeah. Not everybody was going to sign on for it. It would be too difficult for a lot of people. I think that one there is one episode. If you were born before 2000 there's a good chance that you're not going to get there because you're just not going to want to. But the unadulterated pursuit of happiness can actually be a solution. Okay. Go figure. Solution between separation and oneness. Okay. Creating a fulfilling life within the 5D framework. Okay. That's that's what that is. Because at this point again if we're in a bliss season we're already past karma. We're out of karma. We're already kind of we've been experiencing our past. So that's what the solution to. So where is love might not be the solution? That pursuit of happiness. The unadulterated. I couldn't say that word. I know. I know that's why I was like try it again. Unadulterated. Unadulterated pursuit of happiness can be the solution to kind of finding that place for yourself. And this is for three reasons. The first has to do with happiness itself. One of the essential components of happiness is freedom. So the pursuit of happiness runs parallel to the other or together depending on how we do it. And the desire for freedom supersedes our willingness to be enslaved to anything. Whether it's an idea or a way of life or whatever. So it's basically like you can't sacrifice yourself in the name of love. Yeah. Or in the name of the exactly. And I think one of the reasons why they're explaining it. That's why it has to do with the many ways in which we've manipulated love and often misunderstood it. That if we keep holding it out there as the banner took like as in the and the fix for everything. We're going to keep sometimes putting in our old ideas of it or we risk a lot. Yeah. So until that can get weeded out of our wiring. There's just this other way to look at it which will help us I think a bit better. And so with happiness comes freedom. Because in my pursuit of happiness, I need to be free to be able to understand what that means to me. And the second one has to do with truth. So as we get to know ourselves fine, we recognize the one truth that we are the divine. Right? That's the one truth. But as we said in the previous episode, our most divine experiences define who we are. So that keeps us striving. And love is just one aspect of that full divine experience. Question. Yeah. Question. It's sex part of that. It's sex part of love. No. Well there you go. What do you mean by there you go? Well, not everything can be about love because sometimes you just want to fuck even the person you love. So you have other aspects to your relationship than just love. You have adventures. You have sex. You have intellectual pursuits. You have watching mindless TV. There's so many different things that you do with a person that isn't love. You can love them and. Yes, exactly. And the third piece has to do with that. That's what I mean by there you go. There you go. And I was like, yes. And the third piece has to do with fate, which is that happiness and the fulfillment of it is not only written into or fate, but it's the ultimate experience of it. So within fate lies the multitude of experiences that are as you kind of said can be outside of love. Therefore it does not encompass our fullest power. I'm going to ask you to say that again in normal words if that's okay. So if you imagine our fate, sorry, I just needed to say it once that way so I could like give it different sort of cue. So we have our fate and we know that our written fate happiness and full happiness is written into our written fate. Not in our unwritten fate, that's bliss, which means that everything that we choose once we are in our full fate will deliver us to happiness. And that's how we, that's why we call the pursuit of happiness. This is the pursuit of everything that is within our fate and everything that is due to us. While love is a piece of that, because it's us shining our light and our purpose is a big part of our fate, as you said, there's so much more to all of our experiences as the divine and of the divine and as we explore our divinity. The love cannot encompass all of that. That was never the point of it. So even if we're powered by love and all that light shining through us and coming through our consciousness as it's ever growing, developing, etc. We still have a vast world and people and things to do. It can't be all love all the time. I mean, when I go to the shops and I eat a yummy fruit, it's not love, it's just eating a yummy fruit. It's pleasure. We understand once we're out of our karmic world and reality, there is so much more within the spectrum of experience. Well sorry, I just mean like love and, like, yeah, you can eat a piece of fruit with someone you love. But they're two, they're two things that are happening at the same time. Yeah. I don't know how to explain it differently. I think you're right. Love's there. But there's also other things that you're doing together. Yeah. I'm loving you as I'm eating my mango. Yeah, exactly. Mango's yummy. So this is really what we're aiming for when we're in our pursuit of happiness and ultimately bliss if we're choosing it, which is the greatest expression of our power. It's our greatest power, you know, which if we're in bliss, the capacity to write our own fate and not be subject to circumstance, but the composer or writer of our lives is ultimately where we want to get to. So we have the love and the fruit and the sun and the yummy book and the and the and the and the. Exactly. We are at a point in our evolution that so much of what we'd experienced, even in the greatest way possible, while enough isn't fully enough. Like, there's more. By this stage. So, you know, fate plus happiness.
is yield power and that specific power is what powers bliss. So I'm like I'm trying to see if I can just do I need to explain it differently? I mean in my head it's just like I never once different but for me let's say that baseline is love right? Okay in the sense that I've got love but then I've also got if I only had love and nothing else love would eventually not be enough because I'd be like well I just have this it's like I also have toes or fingers but then I can take this toes and those fingers and like walk somewhere or make something so I get to have love and the fruit or and the thing that makes me happy with the love so it's like it's a component of it it exists and probably like for me personally probably wouldn't be able to exist without it but it doesn't mean that it's all of it yeah that's kind of how I understand it and I think that's fair so I feel like love isn't enough is like a blanket saving that makes it sound as if like love means very little but it's not that at all it's like okay fine I have the house but I'd also like the heating yeah and I'd also like the running water yeah and I didn't mean to say like it's not enough by this point on our evolution it can't be everything not when we're here when we know we also want all the other stuff exactly and you're capable of all of that at this stage hence the power yeah like we can go and sit in a park and share a sandwich but we can also go to Hawaii so let's go to Hawaii we can still be together doing that yeah I was wondering where you're going with the sandwich but I'm like we're really talking a lot about food the new son Hawaii you know it's like okay I get it yeah I'm like I like that idea better yeah it's just like that's still got loving it and it's still got all the things in it but it's just like way better yeah so it's from that and exactly carrying that Hawaii sandwich metaphor or analogy I should say that's pretty much how you know you're in bliss because you're not only recognizing that possibility you're exercising it that's the power and that ends up being fully expressed divine identity not only do I recognize I have this option and not only do I have the power to kind of execute it I'm bold enough to go ahead and make that jump because I can you see the progression I will never settle whilst knowing everything's enough exactly okay I mean at this stage it's enough until it's not enough and that's why magic is such an essential component because it gives it it reminds us of that and how to operate within that space of like creative energy so fully expressed divine identity is twofold it acknowledges I am the architect of my life and I listen to no one but myself okay then I feel like we kind of said that in a previous episode yeah that's really yeah but the reason why this gets its own episode is full divine identity is really important because we talked about you know in the early seasons about divinity just acknowledging that you have some divine aspect is a huge leap for a lot of people it's a big step and even getting you to use the word divinity unironically was a big step fucking me I think I was like many seasons later where you could see it with a straight face and to go from acknowledging that one acknowledging one's divinity to being like oh the divine is there and then being able to go from that to while I am the divine and that is again as we had the previous episode a massively but evolution hence the growth and evolution conversation at the previous episode so and then we had to talk about divine expression that is just how we are that's all of our uniqueness yeah like your freak and you acknowledge what your freak was and that's divine expression but what is full divine identity I mean now we are really we're parsing this out but because it's because we have to these are all the essential pieces to bliss while we might have the foundation now we're seeing all these really specific pieces so complete divine identity has to do with peace and unadulterated beingness unadulterated beingness sorry I'm just laughing I know I mean awesome we could go on so many words it just words please refer back to the episode where we said that was mean nothing I was just gonna say that can we just kind of like be tell a bad thing about this just read my mind but unadulterated beingness is I am who I am wherever I am this is different from full divine expression because full divine expression is there's three ways in which they are distinct the first has to do with the fact that when we're our full divine expression we are still having to filter through this human like human body through our words etc that's not that's not always going to come through 100 percent things get filtered yeah even from this space the second distinction has to do with the fact that we're still learning what that means it's ever evolving yeah and the third has to do with how we conduct our relationships because no matter how we are fully expressing we're still often going to be within operating within the bounds of how we were relating to another person yeah you can't you're still still still that's a reacting back to you yeah but full unadulterated beingness and complete peace which is divine identity insane I am whoever I am which means I'm the most unstoppable force it is so difficult to explain this because there aren't a lot of people who are capable of this because of their general wiring we really aren't going to be seeing this for a bit but there are beings like this we are socialized to fit in we are socialized to be less aware of ourselves and more aware of the other person so we conform not just to the social structures and structures but the expectations when we are in the same room with other people and because of that that is so wired into our beings that it's almost impossible to unwire that and I don't mean rewire it because even rewiring will make that difficult we almost can't unwire that which means we need beings who never did it in the first place okay but we do this from a place of humility and not ignorance it's not like will you just have to take me for who I am it doesn't work that way you're not in bliss or bliss adjacent or even in the pursuit of happiness if you're just being an asshole yeah no judgment but it's also about understanding that just because a person is being fully themselves doesn't make them an asshole either and so we know and what makes and why we had to talk about compatibility and stuff in the previous episode what makes room for a lot of this is in my pursuit of happiness and a minimum means I will not be enslaved to a single idea ideology or any other concept other than what lies within this happiness for me and my purpose and stuff because I have to make room for what that looks like because I have to be free to do this you have the same and I can understand you and see all of that because I'm doing it for myself that is I thou to the 10th degree again with the 15 ways that we talked about in the previous episode no matter how awake or conscious we are or self-aware we are it is every step in our power and toward our empowerment that delivers us to divine awareness so like there's the more you live and the more you do stuff and the more you experience everything kind of comes into play but in terms of elevating all of those experiences that's where we're at now and this is again where we're going to start to diverge from a lot of spirituality and its modalities because people are going to stop and say well find super spiritual and I have this consciousness you know that's going to be enough and while it's nice and we're like yeah if you can get to happiness great but that's not even going to define happiness by this stage there's so much more to that and this is because this is much more grounded this is how we're going to be able to function within this world as opposed to those who are just going to set themselves apart because they have all the spiritual knowledge and also it's all well and good to feel happy in a silo but I don't think anyone ever gets into this work for that reason I just don't think you do you get into this work to make your life greater so you can say I'm happy because I'm detached or because like everything's an expression of the divine but if that's the case then create what you want yeah and like that's the bit I feel like that that people kind of miss is that like it gets to a point where like I'm either going to effectively numb myself so much to this world through spirituality that none of it actually matters and we've said this in a previous episode well if none of it matters then neither do you and like we're not here to do that we're here to make ourselves matter and to create things that matter to us so that we can actually be happy that we chose to live this life yeah rather than take down the moments until we're out of it which as much as people want to admit they're not like as much as people want to say they're not doing that most of us are we're just running down the clock mm-hmm that's just wise you can fit in some like normal idea of what normal world is like fuck off I mean amen I mean that's where I'm at and but that's why we had to have the episode actually about in
speaking of numbing. It's why we had to have the episode this season about backdrops. -Drags. -Yeah, because it's all a drug. -It's all a drug. And how we do. You ride the hare and you choose to live and you make your life or you're not. -Yeah. -Like it's just. -And microdosing anything, just to somehow make it better, is actually not going to be what changes the world. And we're having these conversations because we're in 2026. We have to really start to see where my powers of transformation be applied to the world now. And not just make it about like, well, I'm spiritual, so I've done my bit. You know, I've evolved enough. So whenever I pass on, I'll have done my job. No. You can get to a point where yes, good for you. That wasn't easy. But now this is where the work begins. Yeah. It should be fun work. So I mean, it's ultimately our choice to retain that sort of self-awareness and take that final step towards happiness or bliss or remain outside of it. As we said, we're also going to always kind of respect person's choice. But it's the power and the fullest divine expression that is the key to transcending space and time and conquering separation. So everything we've done up to happiness has always been the trajectory we've needed to take. The Karma-Gundewing process coming into our divinity or understanding our power personal empowerment, meaning purpose fulfillment. Those are all such essentials to our growth and our evolution. But we still need to take that further because that is what we're here for. We just transforming human kinds experience of themselves to remove that separation, replace it with oneness because as long as they stay in separation, humankind will not be able to thrive and well effectively at some point self-destruct. And as soon as we can do that, we can actually find that world of peace and that, you know, kind of like that song where we can really have those ideals come to fruition. But we need the power. We need people to be able to fully harness that power to be able to do that. And interestingly, no amount of spirituality or no single modality out there is going to get it for you. Because as you always said, you have to have skin in the game, you have to be fully invested, you have to be a fully grounded human being, an individual to get yourself there. So you can take all the understanding and you can take a gazillion modalities out there and do all the shrooms you want or whatever the DMT or but until you plant yourself in this world fully and heal that pain body of yours, you're not going to be that effective. You know, think about the last episode and about the heart and it being the barometer and it being your divine expression and all the rest of it. I think what you're effectively saying is just go out and be you in all the ways and that will be that's your power as much as we've been told it's not it actually is and doing that over and over again will not just change your life but will change the world. This episode is brought to you by Karma Magic Bliss. For more information, resources and links to our books, check out our website, KarmaMagicBless.com and Karma Magic Bliss across all socials. And if you liked what you heard, please subscribe and leave us a review.
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The podcast discusses the limitations of love as a universal solution, suggesting it is foundational but insufficient for full human experience and evolution.
It introduces the "pursuit of happiness" as a more comprehensive solution that includes freedom, truth, and diverse life experiences beyond just love.
The conversation explores higher states like bliss and "full divine identity," emphasizing personal power, freedom from social conditioning, and active creation of a meaningful life.
Summary:
In this podcast episode, the hosts explore the idea that while love is a fundamental and powerful force, it may not be sufficient to address all human experiences or spiritual evolution. They argue that an "unadulterated pursuit of happiness" offers a more complete solution, as it inherently includes essential components like personal freedom and truth, allowing individuals to engage with a wider spectrum of life beyond love alone. The discussion progresses to higher spiritual states such as bliss and "full divine identity," which involve recognizing one's divine nature, exercising the power to architect one's life, and transcending social conditioning to achieve unadulterated self-expression.
The hosts conclude that true empowerment comes from actively creating a fulfilling life within a spiritual framework, moving beyond passive spirituality to transform human experience and overcome separation.
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The podcast explores topics like sex, love, magic, desire, purpose, and bliss, focusing on how life extends beyond the stories we tell ourselves.
Lowercase love refers to personal, relational love, while uppercase love represents a broader, more spiritual or divine love. The episode suggests love alone may not be enough for full evolution.
Love, while fundamental, is seen as a partial solution born from separation. The hosts argue that focusing solely on love can limit growth, and pursuing happiness offers a more comprehensive path to fulfillment.
The pursuit of happiness is described as a solution that includes freedom, truth, and fate, allowing individuals to create a fulfilling life within a 5D framework without being enslaved by any single idea like love.
Bliss is portrayed as an evolution beyond love and happiness, representing the highest vibration where one can write their own fate. It integrates love but encompasses a broader spectrum of divine experiences.
Full divine identity involves unadulterated beingness and peace, where one is completely themselves without social filters. It differs from divine expression by being more innate and less constrained by human or relational limitations.
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