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Wrote Trump, Media outlets shouldn't be able to constantly write or report fiction and lies when they're covering the President of the United States. Other fake news media outlets to follow. First, they came for CNN, Politico, and MSNOW, and everybody spoke up, because Trump actually said from the start he was going to come after others next. That dumb bitch. Journalists from the three banned outlets were denied access to the White House grounds on Saturday morning. You too, said Don Jr., pacing outside the gates. And then the reporters all went to brunch together and strolled through a farmer's market and picked up a few of the last summer tomatoes. Went home and had sex with their spouses in the middle of the afternoon. It was the best Saturday of their adult lives. But that's not the point. The three outlets are suing over the ban, calling it a blatant violation of the First Amendment, and the other major television networks said they would, in solidarity, suspend White House pool coverage. In the end, it's probably for the best that Trump stays away from pools anyhow, given how frequently he has diarrhea. The boycott led to surreal moments like this one on Newsmax, when Trump held an event at the White House, but there was no audio. ♪ ♪ Okay, so there's no microphone because the pool cameras aren't there, so maybe, Tim, this is one example of it backfiring just a little bit. Trump babbling inaudibly under a roaring mechanical hum while right-wing commentators look on in embarrassment. Is banning CNN the best thing he's ever done? Wouldn't you download some sort of an app on your browser that turns all of Trump talking into just the sounds of bees? ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ J.D. Vance later went on Newsmax to insist that everyone was just being hysterical. I've heard a lot of people say that we've banned Politico. Politico will still write their crazy articles. They will still misrepresent what we say and do. What's different is that they don't have an office in the White House anymore. It's not a ban. It's the refusal to grant special access to people who are engaged in dishonest reporting. Yeah, man, you should probably talk to all these idiots who are saying it's a ban. Oh, the ban on the free press, right? Uh, a very simple ban. I don't want them in my office. I don't want them here. I would say the ban would go as far as you can. Here's Secretary of State Marco Rubio also trying to downplay the decision. We're not closing CNN. There aren't a bunch of police officers or soldiers kicking down the doors of MSNBC or MSNOW, whatever it's called, and arresting people and unplugging it from the grid. Continued Rubio, and sure, that was option A on the poster Natalie Harp printed for the boss. And. But he chose option B. And sure, option C was romantic dinner for two with Natalie Harp, but that's always option C. Continued Rubio, for real. They're just not allowed to work from the workspace at the White House. So there's nothing to worry about. They're not arresting anybody. They're just refusing journalists access to public property based on their viewpoints in order to tilt coverage toward the president while hoping reporters think twice before being critical of Trump for fear of losing their ability to report from inside the White House grounds. So quit being a baby about it. It's not full authoritarian censorship. It's only the most that someone with an authoritarian mindset feels he can get away with right now. And sure, that's more than what he could do a few years ago. But look on the bright side. What he's trying to do today will seem quaint compared to what he tries a few years from now. To get their message out amid the boycott by TV networks, the Trump administration began promoting their own White House app. Does it have messaging? Does it let you talk to the president, said Don Jr., frantically downloading the app. And then, later on Monday, the White House announced that they were relaunching their YouTube channel as Trump TV. And this just in, the president's YouTube channel is covered in algae. Then, without the press pool, Trump headed to New York for the United Nations' 81st General Assembly. While in the Big Apple, Trump stopped by Gracie Mansion to visit the city's beloved mayor, Zoran Mamdani. Here, you hold this glove, Zoran, and then right when my dad throws the ball, I'll run in, grab the glove, and catch it, said Don Jr. So we have Trump and Mamdani, a boomer who loves Netanyahu, and a millennial who protested Israel at his liberal arts college, pretending to get along while everyone is watching. A classic Yom Kippur sighting, if I've ever seen one. Mamdani was asked about Trump's press ban. I told the president that we're going to have all of the members of the press here on the lawn, and that is something that I believe in, is everyone, no matter the opinion or the critique, that we engage. And I don't know if it's the president. It's interesting because they said they were going to boycott me, but they never did. Never boycott me. So I wasn't very worried about that. Look at all that press. I'm the talk of the town, said King Kong, as he ripped the top of the Empire State Building off. On Tuesday morning, Trump delivered his address to the U.N. General Assembly. On his way to the venue, he snapped at the reporters gathering outside, including CNN's Caitlin Collins. You should not be here covering me. You said you weren't going to cover me. You shouldn't be covering me. Said the reflecting pool to the algae. During his remarks, before the U.N., Trump considered his options in Iran. Will a deal be made with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far greater country than it ever was before? Maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East or even the world. Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness or generations? Where am I? Asked Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander Ahmad Vahidi. Oh, this is hell, says Lindsey Graham as ravens peck at his eyes. It's not so bad, adds Dolly Parton, who could have done more, it turns out. Really sorry. But I believe we'll make a deal right after the election. If it were me, I'd end the war before the election to try to win the election. It's almost as if he's making it up. But Trump also made this announcement about the term artificial intelligence. From this point forward, all of United States documents and hopefully the world's will be changed to use the much more accurate term super as opposed to artificial. So it's super intelligence. In other words, welcome to the new world of super intelligence dash SI. SI. Let's see if that goes. It sounds much better. It is much better. And it's much better. It's much more accurate. Let's see if I have any power. Maybe I do and maybe I don't. We're going to find out pretty soon. What are we supposed to do? It's also, who does this help? What does that fix? I'm calling it now. Super intelligence is the Republicans Latinx. Meanwhile, flights were grounded at multiple East Coast airports on Monday, including LaGuardia, JFK and Newark after a radio communication system in Philadelphia and its backup both failed. Sad. Tower operator just stepped out to get a hoagie and now he's in hot water. Honestly, that was the best version of it. Let's check in with Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, who I assume is hard at work. Well, maybe we all have a little dance in our human heart. And lift. Cross. One, two, three, four. Hold here. Stop. Sad to think of all the people who are going to die in plane crashes without ever seeing Duffy's new reality show. There's never been a time in the history of this show where I joke about people dying in plane crashes and it works. No matter, sometimes whatever I feel it deserves, no one's up for it. No one likes it. No one likes thinking about it. And I'm not going to learn. The plane crash, jokes will continue until morale improves. Speaking of flaming out, during a campaign event in North Carolina on Monday, Vice President J.D. Vance reminded us why he's known as the most charismatic man in politics. And because we need somebody who will fight back against the far left, we need Michael Watley in the United States Senate. Now, you may not have even heard that, but I actually, I usually don't misspeak. But I just called them the fart left, not the fart left. I promise, - Yes, that was an accident. - From now on, when there's stuff like that, that makes me feel bad. I'm going to come back here. And now that you've seen this clip, you have seven days to play it for someone else or you die. Anywho, in other news that'll make you recoil, far right Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Boebert has been accused of having affairs with three of her staffers, two of whom are women. But other than that, Ms. Boebert, how was the Beetlejuice musical? Now, according to a complaint filed with the House Ethics Committee, rendezvous took place in the office of one of the staffers, in a campaign vehicle, and in hotel rooms at the campaign's expense. Boebert is alleged to have paid one of the three, her district director, $200,000 to stop her from filing an ethics complaint. And it seems we know about that alleged payment because it was included in an ethics complaint, which I assume is what happens when you allegedly have sex with three staffers and only pay off one of them. Now, a spokesperson for Boebert has called the allegations baseless, utterly false, and nothing more than a politically motivated stunt designed to manipulate the ethics process, create headlines, smear her, and generate clickbait, though it was hard to understand the spokesperson with Boebert's boob in her mouth. Continue the spokesperson, these smears must stop, as she tried to dab at the spot with a paper towel. To be clear, to be clear, the district director has herself denied the allegations, calling them entirely false and defamatory, though it was hard to hear her with Boebert's other boob in her mouth. It was a gross press conference. Just as a reminder, this was Lauren Boebert back in April. Yeah, go to church, find Jesus. Like, I mean, why is everybody so horny here? So that's what they meant by the second coming. I don't even know what that meant. And finally, Paramount has reached a deal to settle the antitrust lawsuit filed by California and other states over its $111 billion acquisition of Warner Brothers Discovery, clearing the last obstacle to the mega merger. We did it. Father and son, said Larry and David Ellison, hugging as Don Jr. accidentally crushed a glass in his hand. Through a consent decree, Paramount agreed to release at least 30 films a year in theaters and to increase film and television production, in the U.S., by a minimum of $1.5 billion, more if states like California ramp up production tax credits. We are so back, said Tom Cruise, getting ready to film the Mission Impossible movie where we get to see him actually die. Fine. While many continue to worry about one pro-Trump family controlling two of the biggest streaming networks and two of the biggest news networks, I, for one, can't wait for HBO's new fall lineup. Shows like The White Nationalist Lotus, Fart Left, a J.D. Vance stand-up special, Hacks, but with men, Sex and the City, but with men, Girls, but with boys, Curb Your Immigration, Harry Potter and the Return of White Snape, The Pit, Oops, All Measles, and Real Time with Bill Maher. All right, we've got a great show for you tonight, and we'll be right back. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Zazzle. You know that feeling when you're three days out from someone's birthday and you have no idea what to get, and then you end up with something generic that you're not even sure they'll like? That's where Zazzle comes in to save the day. Zazzle is a custom marketplace where you can take basically any product, a mug, a tote bag, card, a phone case, and make it personal to you. Or someone you love. Browse millions of designs or start from scratch and build something completely on your own. Either way, you're the designer. 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And at the November 6th, Love It or Leave It Live in D.C., I'll be joined by writer Trussie McMillan-Cottom, who you've heard on the show before from the New York Times, and New York City council member and the originator of Woke One Was Crazy, Chiyose. So he'll be joining us. And you can find the full lineup and get tickets for both events at CrookedCon.com. Ticket prices go up on October 6th, so get yours now to lock in the better price, and we will see you there. Now, there has been so much doom and gloom around AI recently, so I wanted to give the tech community a chance to discuss all the incredible things artificial intelligence can do. So I'm going to talk to Angela Mortimer, spokesperson for Quandary AI, to help us do that. Please welcome to the Love It or Leave It stage, Angela Mortimer, spokesperson for Quandary AI. Hi, hello. Hi, thank you so much for being here. Of course. I really appreciate it. Now, Angela, how's your week been going? Oh, God, how's my week been going? Wow, what the hell? What the fuck? What was the question? Oh, just, I was curious about your week, because, you know, Trump put out a poll on social asking about renaming artificial intelligence and declared at the UN that we're going to call it super intelligence. Do you think that might be the right name for it? Who cares? Honestly, we had an all-hands meeting today. I just came from it. And you would think, why would all the leads of all the different AI platforms be getting together in one room? Is it an emergency? Maybe. So, look, there's been a lot of hullabaloo. Without AI, and. Hullabaloo, that's a good word for it. Well, now, so, I understand that Quandary AI is doing some interesting things to help people with sort of financial assistance. It's very smart to help them kind of do some of their tasks, like a financial advisor. So, I would upload my personal data. Sure, yes, you can do anything with AI. It can help you with your personal data. It can help you with your finances. That's a very cute idea. I love that. Okay, I'm like a little. I mean, you're from Quandary AI. I thought you were excited to talk about what this product would do. Of course, it's very convenient. You can do anything. You can ask it about your finances. You could say, hey, what should I do with all my money? Does money have any meaning now? You know, what does money mean? You know? Can we take it with us? Because that's where we're going. So, and again, like, I. I'm just sort of trying to understand. You work for Quandary AI, right? Yes. Oh, my God. It seems like there's something bothering you. No, absolutely not. You know what? I signed an NDA from the big meeting, okay? So, I can't say it's an emergency, but I will say it's something so bad. And I will say also, you know, but still use AI. Who cares? Ask it your questions. You know what actually could be funny? If we all go home and we ask it, I drink if I don't have water. Stuff like that. Or, you know, or what kind of convos can I be having with the people that I love to wrap things up spiritually? Well, look, I know you're not allowed to talk about it, but it sounds like this was a pretty alarming meeting you just had. And again, I thought we were going to talk about how to use AI therapy to improve relationships. I've been such a good girl my whole life. I went to school. I married a financially stable man. You know, I have never been with a woman. I've never been with a woman. the woman if there's anyone here that would let me try that soon that could be good you know i never even did drugs have you done drugs yeah i heard i heard heroin makes you feel like you're flying well you don't want to do heroin because i mean it's so dangerous like because you can get really addicted to it and it can ruin could have you can ruin the future imagine that hey in the arms of the angels far away have you ever is it is this your camera here yeah if my daughters are watching this sofia olivia i love you hey do you ever ask ai what it can do with certain baking ingredients like you give it your baking ingredients and you're like for recipes because you can like say like oh i have almond flour and two eggs and like half a stick of butter what can i make so that's like a cool thing you can do with it yeah that's exactly right you can do that that's really fun thank you for saying that you can say this is what i have in my pantry what should i do what should i do what should i do so i'm again like they're getting increased there's a feeling i'm getting that you've seen something or heard something hey you work so hard do you have people you want to be spending time with well of course i mean but i have that you know i've had i have i have i have i have obligations let's get out of here trust me okay okay do you like crops uh yeah i like them yeah i like crops well i'm gonna tell you something after okay about crops and it's not good but for those of you who like crops i'm not saying say goodbye to crops but well i just here's the thing i thought that the big i thought look i'm a little bit drunk john i'm getting that i but i look i understand there's risks with ai but i thought they were working to i would be aligned it would have our interest at heart is that not right yes of course it is like a big snake in a zoo and it's behind a cage and we're all very very safe and there's no crack in the cage and the snake isn't roaming around going up your skirt and biting you in the vagina that's not gonna happen megan olivia mommy loves you so so much i could have done more and i should have done more is there anything you want people watching this to know that you haven't yet is there anything that you're ready to reveal about this i think i'm gay and i've never explored that isn't that funny it's like i wanted to make my parents proud i wanted to make every you know it's like what what am i supposed to do now i mean i could have some sort of sexual awakening how much time do we even have left for that do you know what i mean no i don't know what you mean i'm very scared what is it good what's happening is it is it loose is it is it doing something to hurt us what what no everything's fine and and and it can help with things like recipes yes it can help with recipes it can help with finances and it can help with therapy if you have any questions for it and you think you've invented a new math equation it will tell you to go to the white house and share it with them it's a very yes and kind of tool very fun very cool very cool very cool and you're gay i think i might be yeah and i have you know um 26 days to explore that did i say 26 days i'm sorry i'm a little drunk angela mortimer for quandary i thank you so much thank you for having me and we'll be right back and we're back welcome to the show for the first time it's lisa gilroy thank you oh my god that woman that just left the stage tried to kiss me oh my gosh yeah she was going through it yeah she really was she smelled of booze oh yeah i know she'd been drinking but everyone on this show kind of does yeah that's sort of our thing here yeah uh it's always tuesday somewhere what okay so uh one of your breakthrough roles was on the first season of jury duty how many seasons do you think that they can get away with oh infinite do you know how like everyone's so gullible in the world and the casting director will find one man who's never been on the internet that's what they do oh to be that man uh you're also uh voicing a character on golden axe which is now out on paramount plus which we love and support uh the show is based on a video game and you play a ripped amazon warrior uh is that something yeah i think that that's me that's you uh what was the vibe it was so fun and i did her voice well i kind of like lied in my audition and i was like yeah this is a this is a comfortable range for me to be like down here all the time and then i would lose my voice and i would lose my voice and i would lose my voice seven minutes into every recording but you have to sound strong you try sounding strong i've never heard it from you hey now that's let's all go fight somebody pretty good yeah down here yeah down here yeah all right let's go uh go on let's ride our motorcycles to the war and then have sex with the the the the strongest women good good stuff oh my god the girls are going wild they're throwing their bras on stage support me wow now the show is based on an old sega video game yes if they made a show based on the video game you played the most as a kid what would it be oh um i guess it would have to be i don't know if this really counts as video game but like um drowning people in the pool in sims yeah no that counts as a video game that's a hundred fires being negligent um doing the rosebud cheat code to get a bunch of money not my culture that's so funny i was more of an up up down down left right left right be a select star person for the boys yes for the boys for the girls but virgins us all yeah did you ever play roller coaster tycoon no do you think you're gonna go to comic-con to promote the warrior you're gonna have to i bet you will you think so yeah i'm not gonna wear a bikini though so stop asking another game i played a lot of was crash bandicoot did you ever play that no i didn't play crash bandicoot but wow you have a kindred spirit there in the front row is freaking out let's talk after the show hey the reign of lisa gilroy continues because you're on uh brothers on apple tv plus yes uh where matthew mcconaughey and woody harrelson play brothers based on a rumor that's that they're brothers that's right do you think they're brothers in real life yeah i don't know because they haven't gotten the dna they should do that i know why won't they do you think we're siblings yeah we should check it out we should check it out because i feel like already we're kind of like mad at each other like we're siblings i wasn't but okay you're not getting that vibe like i'm the older cooler sister and you're kind of like always coming into my room and i want you dead i just think that's how people are with me hey can i see something quick uh-huh yeah they all say hey at the top so woody is the rare person that looks worse with hair oh you think so yeah he looks so good bald he does look good bald he's got that jaw yeah i think i would look so much worse bald have you ever tried it no so how do you know i think i know let's do it tonight look under your seats one lucky viewer has a razor would you allow it anything for the clicks right yeah no uh anything for yep that's right let's let's reenact the the saddest part of lame is hey woody harrelson and matthew mcconaughey they're both so famous yeah they're weird yeah they are yeah i bet it makes them weird do you think enough people tell them no or do you think it's a lot of yeses when you're at that level i told them no a lot i was quite rude to them cool they let me improvise a lot and i was really i was kind of disrespectful and it was a thrill that's good um but no they're they're actually very cool and you know woody is like a true like no phone no shoes kind of like hippie fun guy that's cool yeah yeah i bet you yeah i feel like you get away with stuff because you're so funny oh because i went we i went to a table read which is it's a showbiz but you you were you were in a a table read for a movie i don't know if i should say what the movie is but whatever uh and it was the it was the cameron diaz stephen merchant movie oh yes which you're in yes and it's not out yet and i don't think anyone i don't know what we're allowed to say about it but it was very it exists i think it's been announced whatever we'll cut this if not but uh you stole that whole fucking table read no yes you won't take the compliment but you did i mean there's a lot of really funny people who were really funny but you played multiple people just because well because they asked me to that's my thing they bring me in for a table read and i'll say like one sentence from every character but i'm always playing things that i can't play in real life they're like here you can be the old haunted 90 year old janitor of the cemetery and i'd love to do it in the table read but it never comes to a job for me but that they should dress you up as that janitor thank you i agree what do you get typecast as um not someone that should be on television hmm someone who's just on the edge of someone we think could be on television but no that's sort of been my my experience okay you get like one toe in and then the television boots you from the island yeah i like to say that i go i like to say that i'm often at don't no no no this is my show now come on who wants to shave this guy's head I was gonna say that I often find myself at at uh in conversations where it looks like I'm in the business but actually my I'm not that everyone else at the table is in the business I'm on the edge of the business right I could tell you're kind of on the edge of your seat as well yeah I feel yes but get comfy you belong you know this is your kind of weird house thank you Lisa Golden Axe is streaming now on Paramount Plus which we love and you can see Brothers right now on Apple TV Plus hey don't go anywhere there's more of Love It or Leave It coming up Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Willie's Remedy if you're looking to unwind after 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natural even if I want to people are gonna grab me and be like what do you think about so-and-so so I might as well just put it on the platform you know what I mean you gotta monetize it yeah that's the name of the game you good at it you better monetize it yeah in this day and age yeah I didn't say I was good at it I'm just going no he's good at it so we have uh new seasons of traders uh the cast for the U.S. and U.K. seasons were just announced uh who are you most excited about nina um I'm friends with some of these people so I'm friends with taylor hell I'm friends with cynthia bailey so I mean you know I'm rooting for everybody black so I mean I'm just I'm rooting for them I want them to win I think like cynthia is gonna people see her as this very like nice calm but cynthia is very strategic and she's been in this business since she was a teenager like she's you don't do that by just being like a passover you know and she's been through nini like she she went through this you know I mean you went through the biggest one and you made it out unscathed uh not to just pick out a black woman but phaedra last but it actually is well why not I will be wrong not to but phaedra phaedra was so good yeah on that season and I can't remember which guy it was tom van tim there was a guy yeah and he tried to uh uh get one over on phaedra and then all of a sudden like the lawyer turned on and I was like holy shit that was cool as hell yeah she just ripped him to oh she let me tell you something that is something you you as a black woman you got to learn how to read from childhood or you're not gonna make it in the neighborhood you got to know how to read somebody and that's something that you can turn on and off quickly and phaedra doesn't really turn it off she just has lower versions of it but it ain't ever off yeah it's sort of like the twit like I think some uh housewives have struggled because they think it's about the drama and then then there are housewives who kind of use the drama like a weapon at the key moments which I think is like a different thing I'm excited to see uh uh bronwyn so I interviewed bronwyn on love it or leave it and then we found out the next day that she and todd were donezo she didn't give us that news and then I was on uh watch what happens with bronwyn and then the next day they announced traitors and it's like man she's mad you didn't get the exclusives I just like to know what's going on yeah you want you wanted the exclusive I want to say something I didn't even I don't even yeah I guess I didn't tell me girl yeah right here yeah that's right next time you check her yeah that's right I was more personally hurt you like me breathing life into you I'm like you better tell him you stand up for yourself you tell the people don't talk to you like that don't talk to me this way I think something I love about the traitors is it's such a fake skill set like everybody is amazing at the show for two seconds and then we all hate them and they're untalented the next so it's like like Kristen Chenoweth is going to be on the show and let me tell you something I believe in the sanctity of like actors and believing that they have a mystique and something will you know we'll never know their big secret why they're that talented or whatever something about a show like this strips that away and I have to tell you I feel bad for actors going on this show I don't I do not think they are in control of the edit and it will go poorly for them oh that's the best reason to watch yeah I'm excited well it's I feel like there's the the actors are good at the part of the show that is traitors but traitors is the game of mafia basically traitors yeah plus everything around it and all the kind of ways in which because it's a television show it doesn't actually follow the rules of the game the game the rules of the game are mediated through the fact that it is a television show which changes the character how people play I was at a game night with a bunch of actors and comedians and I think I will I will just say you name drop I'm going to oh please I'm like don't tell me that and don't tell me who and Whitney Cummings was in the mafia and it was I'm telling you sorry I am telling you and I will anyone who was there that night remembers it was one of the most extraordinary performances I've ever seen afterwards people were genuinely afraid of her because she was in the mafia and she made it all the way to the end it was it was an incredible display it was incredible can I tell you something bizarrely I was also at a game night where I I went thinking I could just be a competitive gay person and act out of control and you know the way a game night should be run and it was all actors all of them and I don't think this is disparaging to say but I remember watching actors play this game is bone chilling because they communicate in a way that they don't know how to communicate and they don't they you know we do not there I remember uh Bryce Dallas Howard said to Kristen Bell I need to tell you I think you're in the mafia and I don't want you to take that as an insult it's because I think you're so talented no you're supposed to be insulting when you accuse somebody of being in the mafia you're dirty you're weird and I don't want to look at you or whatever I feel like both y'all just wanted us to know who you was hanging out with at the mafia I did not oh my god please give me a break I did I mean I did have mafia but it wasn't you know we didn't have nobody famous there was no one famous there was no one famous there was no one famous there was no one there I mean I was there and why even bother the times is rolling out their picks for the hundred best tv shows of the 21st century uh scandals at 100 and with shows like eastbound and down at 90 anthony bourdain's parts unknown at 64 rupaul's drag race at 61 uh what are your thoughts lewis well this was going to be my rant wheel thing so I'm going to rant now okay yes um here's the thing um uh so they're listing the hundred greatest tv shows the same way they listed the hundred greatest movies recently and everybody is submitting their top 10 ballots I am discouraged by the how few people I know are putting reality shows in their 10 best shows of the 21st century like I don't trust anybody who's only putting like madmen or like breaking bad or whatever that's propaganda Like, the best television of the past 25 years is Project Runway, period. Like, an imperious gay man telling you your hemline is askew. That's why we do television. What did you think of the new. Did you finish the new season without spoiling? Oh, I sure did, yes. That's great. We are Law Roach devotees. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love. Gay people, did you know this should be mean? That's the whole point. It was glorious to be. When he was going after the show, or even, like, being angry at the other judges, it felt like back in a. It felt like a time machine to an era where a reality TV show, where the guests were really worried about the contest itself and less about how they were being seen on the show. It was more about, like, he was really mad about what was unfolding and not thinking or caring about, like, how it would be perceived or caring more about the taste than the relationships in that little moment. And it was like, oh, thank God. People just having it out. It was awesome. And judging also has gotten so polite these days. But, like, when you're at home with your girlfriends or your friends and you're watching and you say. You talk the same shit. You know what I mean? You're like, this looks ridiculous. But people are afraid to say that for fear of how they're going to look. But I think, like, in a competition, you're supposed to judge. You're supposed to kind of get a little snarky. That's what makes it interesting to me. Just say it to my face. I won't. Now, one of the. Now, part of what Keep It's about is an unfiltered take, no matter the consequences. Are you seeing any backlash to anything you've said recently? Yeah. Right. That's all we see. Are you suggesting there'd be, like, good take, more of that, please? Yeah. I mean, I've been dealing with. I mean, I've been doing media for 20 years and I find that, as an opinionated black woman, I post a picture of the sunset and somebody got something to say. Like, how dare you think the sunset's for you? So, like, I've always dealt with that. I think, like, you know, I don't mind criticism. I don't mind people in the comments. Like, you sure you should have. What I don't like is threats. What I don't like is, you know, calling me names and, you know, like, I think, like, when it gets to that, like, I go low. I go low with you, babes. We can. I'm not Michelle Obama at all. I'm. Whatever the opposite of that is, that's where I'm at. Michelle No-Bama. I'm gonna go on your profile. I'm gonna look and see what you got in your bio. Like, I'm gonna drag you. So, just. If you come in, just understand, we going bar for bar. You know? We going bar for bar. So, say what you want. I was blown away. I recently. You okay? I'm just thinking. I got a ticket on you. I'm just thinking about. That's what I do. And mostly what I do is sort of close my phone and say, but I was good on that, wasn't I? I am surprised sometimes what sparks a bad reaction. Like, I said, like, okay, we're all getting a little sick of the Nicole Kidman AMC ad. Like, I obviously don't need to see that anymore. Excuse me. It was like I, like, said, and your grandmother's ugly. The way people respond. I didn't realize it was such an embedded cultural institution. Like, people are still, like, laughing and high-fiving when it appears and stuff. Maybe it's the difference of how many movies we all see. But, like, I simply. I can't do it anymore. Like, Nicole Kidman is on every screen we have. As I've said on the show, she's the most employed person in entertainment history. Like, here's, like, Bob Hope. Here's Nicole Kidman. You know what I'm saying? Nicole got jobs. But, you know, people did not take kindly to you wanting to take her bag away. All she has is bags. She's like a trick-or-treater. Yeah. The objection is that people want to make sure Nicole Kidman has a warm roof over her head, you know? And they're looking out for her. We're still concerned about her and Tom. I mean, what was the plan? We're going to make one and that's it for fucking ever? Like, they used to make them all the time. I want to see the pretzels dance again. Yes. It doesn't need to. I know they're worried about how they're going to follow up on the fucking Nicole. I'm sure it's a whole discussion. How do we replace this? What comes next? How about a fucking dancing bit of popcorn like the old days? I miss that. We haven't checked in on Raisinets in a decade. Yeah. Are they happy? Junior Mints? Do they have something to say? I don't know. I'd like to hear from them. I liked when we get to. Remember when HBO let you go swooping through the city until you went into the physical H and the physical B and then the physical O? Yeah. That was great. Do something like that. I feel like it might get us on the right timeline. I'm here for it. Let's try it. You would swoop through and then the O would become TV. Right, yes. Welcome to Larry Sanders. Zoop, zoop, zoop, zoop, zoop. TV. Yes. But yeah, we. Surprisingly enough, you think pop culture, you don't get a lot of trolls. You get a lot of trolls. Yeah. Do you think it's. Yeah, I was called. I'm being called, as we speak, a fashion. A fascist liberal Zionist and a self-hating Jew. Oh. So exciting. At the same time, which kind of means I think I'm doing okay. It evens itself out. Yeah. Also, I just feel like. Well, I will say when it comes to pop culture criticism and people, you know, not liking what you say, I feel like most of the insults towards me come down to, and you don't have lips. I'm like, girl, no one in my family has lips. That's what we do. It's very playground. Yeah, right. That's my wheelhouse. I don't mind it. I don't ever duck smoke. I just put my phone down. We can work on this. I put my phone down and then I think, are they right? Well, now I'll be in the comments defending you. Oh, thanks. So you see me. No, I don't go in the comments. I never go in the comments. You never read them? No, no, I didn't say that. I, of course, read them. The thrill of the. Both the. Like, the meanness and the back and forth. It's intoxicating, obviously. It is. It's terrible for us. Spiritually terrible for us. There was a time when Frank Sinatra could drive through a plate glass window at a casino, give somebody a hundred bucks, nobody would talk about it. Which means it's time for a game we're calling The People Have Spoken. That's what I mean. Oh, okay. Oh, they got some graphics going. There's a little graphic right there. Did I do a great transition? Yeah, it was good. No. It was fine. It was fine. You'll hear about it later in the comments. Yeah, for sure. Here's how it works. I'm going to read a headline. It will either be a real or fake People Magazine headline. Which is my Bible. First up, Channing Tatum was not behind the Instagram account mocking ex-Zoey Kravitz and Harry Styles fan site proves. Oh, this is real. Oh, yeah. And I want it to be real. I mean, I want him to have run this site so desperately. I'm obsessed with this story. So, it's not him, but how is that? Channing, please. Channing got a little lurk. Everybody lurks. Everybody lurks. Everybody lurks. You're following this page. So, what? So, if it's not him, what did they prove? We don't know who did it. It's someone close to Channing Tatum. It's a stranger who just followed Channing Tatum. What's going on? But Channing Tatum followed that account. An unknowable force put together a hater account about Harry Styles and Zoe Kravitz. It's as simple as that. Yeah, and we don't know if it's him or a friend of his. If it was me, it would have been one of my cousins. They would definitely do that for me. That's real love. Somebody who sets up an account to lurk for you, that's love. I'm not mad at it. What nice cousins you have. Yeah. Robert Pattinson reveals his lifelong struggle with colorblindness in emotional Instagram posts. No, not real. Yeah, it's fake. I feel like eventually the struggle ends. It couldn't be lifelong. You know, it's like, oh, you know what? I can't see green. Some people have it even worse. There are people where it's just all brown. There's lots of shades of brown. Very Phoenix. I relate. Martha Stewart reveals which of her horses she would marry if you were a person. I'm going to say that's fake. I also am going to say that's fake. That's correct. Yeah. Health officials seeking woman who was seen touching a rabid bat trying to put it in her bag. Oh, I think this is in 2026. This is true. I say yes. So just touching a rabid bat trying to put it in her bag. I'm going to say yes because it's such a specific action. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. You got it. Woman gives birth in a KFC parking lot gives baby boy a fitting fast food name. Oh, I could see this happening. For sure. Well, also, the clickbait is good because I'm like, what's the name? Like biscuit. What's it going to be? I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say real. Nina's right. It's real. It's so specific. Yeah, I guess. And we'll tell you the name after the break. No, I'll tell you the name. I'll tell you the name. I'll tell you. It was so it was just Cody. But but they're calling him Colonel Cody. Oh, OK. I like that. Sure. This graphic is interesting. The baby in the KFC book. Bucket. I'm just going to say that I got that right because Colonel Cody is not his name. You're right. OK, fine. This is how he is. Travis Kelsey praises Taylor Swift's hot look from her Law and Order SVU cameo. There's not much she can do. This sounds like something he would say. Totally. Yep. You got it. Shailene Woodley's stylist checks into Passages Malibu after red carpet pile on. I might I might be responsible for this. I dragged her a little bit. I might have dragged her a little bit. Because you didn't like the look. No, I did not. No. She's probably lovely. But no, I did not like the look. I mean, it's not even fair to have called it a look. It's like it's like she was a genie, but she only had three dollars to make a genie. They try. They try. That being said, I think this is fake. It is fake. Yeah, you got it. It is fake. It is fake. And finally, Melissa McCarthy reveals her take on JonBenet Ramsey case after playing her mom, quote, I probably am not supposed to say. Definitely real. Real. Yeah, that's real. We do this. Thank you, Lewis and Nina. Check out Keep It on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts and we will be right back. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Blinds.com. Whether you're moving into a new place or redecorating the home you've lived in for years, it's easy to overlook window treatments, but between the way light filters into a room and the feeling of privacy they give, a room without out blinds just feels unfinished. That's where blinds.com comes in. And right now, you can get $50 off when you spend $500 or more. 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We say a rolling stone gathers no moss, but how about a rolling wheel? Terrific. That's right. We've reached the part of the evening that is the rant wheel. We'll each have 60 seconds. Let's spin it and talk about whatever you want to talk about. Get it. Buckle the fuck up. Because guess what? When I'm at a party with your stupid ass, and I'm talking to someone, and you come into the conversation, and I'm just trying to be polite. And you enter, and I say, oh, Megan, this is Lauren. And you guys already know each other. You don't need to go, oh, nice to meet you. We've never met before. What's your name again? Ha, ha, ha. You put on a little play to make me feel like an asshole, because I didn't know that you two have known each other for 20 years. I don't find the joke funny. I don't find the joke respectful. I find it to be a punishing move that has made me feel like, the dog's breakfast on a Sunday morning just for being a lovely little party girl that knows her etiquette. So I would like to say to you, next time that happens, just graciously say, oh, yes, I know, Lauren. We actually went to college together. Ha, ha, there. It's over. Fuck you. Stop doing that. Or stop inviting me to your party, you horrible, horrible women. The rare use of the British aphorism, dog's breakfast. You've made me feel absolutely as the dog's breakfast. Loved it. Beautiful. All right, let's spin it again. Lewis, what would you like to rant about? OK, so we already talked about how The New York Times has this list of the 100 greatest TV shows or whatever. And always whenever there's a new list out about everything, people complain, this is rage bait. You mean me having passionate opinions about the arts? This is the only reason I'm alive. This is me being myself. Let me have this. OK, and I don't want to talk about all the other things you want to talk about because that's for his podcast, not mine. OK, back to the list. I don't trust anybody who doesn't put on their list of the greatest shows of this century. American Idol. American Idol is the greatest reality show of all time. And I'll tell you why. One, we gave Randy Jackson eight figures every single year to be like, I'm not sure that was good. Literally, he's never had a real opinion in his life. He makes 10 million dollars a year. Paula Abdul. Did she know she was on a show? So exciting to watch. Simon Cowell, the richest man alive, literally always wearing a Henley you could definitely get at H&M. Why did he choose that? It was always like three sort of shaved hairs on his chest. Anyway, also, the singing was so good. I, to this day, throw out an occasional it's a no for me dog. And I just it's a beautiful way to say no to something. Just that's a no for me, dog. I just use a Randy Jackson phrase all the time. I don't think more telling. And I'm going to stop. Also, I think more telling than this is what your favorite American Idol winner is. Like, if you tell me your favorite winner was, I don't know, Taylor Hicks or something like I know something about your family background. That's so haunted. So here's the thing. Let's talk about Taylor Hicks. Please. I feel like we were in at that moment a kind of collective reverie. Like, because because was it is it Carrie Underwood who's second? No, who's second? Catherine McPhee. Catherine McPhee is second that season, which in hindsight, insane. But in the moment, there was a part of it that was like, look at how that guy's face is weird when he sings. Let's give it to him. Yeah. And we were all were like, no, we are going to love Taylor Hicks forever. Forever. He will be our guy. We're not going to stop listening. We're not going to move on. It's him forever. And obviously, three or four days after that season, he was gone. And Catherine McPhee remains. But I think that's a cool thing. It's like a tattoo. You know, it's like, why did we get why did we get that Taylor Hicks tattoo? I don't know. But we at the time, it was. It was so cool to us. Yeah. Did you get a Taylor Hicks tattoo? Yeah. It's my whole back. Let's spin it again. Before you move forward in a relationship, I don't care if it's a friendship, a marriage, you're dating. Go to the fucking airport with this person. Because everybody's IQ drops like 30 points when they walk into the fucking doors of LAX. I don't know what it is. I don't know why you want to just walk and then stop. And use your phone. Why not pull over to the side? I'm not sure why your whole family is taking up the whole fucking hallway while I'm trying to get to my gate. I'm not sure why you need to change the baby's diapers right here in the middle of the way. But you need to do it, right? Nobody knows how to say excuse me. They don't see you. They're rolling over your feet every time. And you got to know, if that person does not have TSA pre-check, you got to drop them. You got to break up with them. Fuck meeting them at the gate. Leave them. Period. Because they don't have good judgment. You coming up here without pre-check? Are you okay? You can get away with not having clear, but pre-check is a deal breaker. You need to understand if somebody can pack it in and pack it up and keep it moving. Because if you can't keep up, you can't keep me. Beautifully said. That's a yes for me, dog. I'm going to stop saying it. Starting now. Let's spin it again. I'm going to build on your airport rant. Something has now happened where there was this blissful time when there was just pre-check and normal. And nobody had pre-check. If you had pre-check, life was good. Then they added clear. And so you got clear, right? You said, I'll get clear in case it's a thing. And you get clear. And then clear was amazing. Pre-check was good. Regular nightmare. I don't know what's going on over there. And then you would go through clear and it would be amazing. Now you get to the airport. And there are, there's standard pre-check, touchless ID, clear with pre-check, clear without pre-check. And it is now a crapshoot as to where I belong, which is the shortest line. Like I don't, like, and what sucks about going to the airport is nobody knows that I belong on the shortest line. And so there's no one, and I can't say, hey, where do I go? Like I see where. This is all going. And where that's all going. Where do I go? Because I'm flying today. And that's the rant wheel. And we'll be right back with second thoughts. And we're back. Frank Sinatra once sang regrets. I have a few. But then again, too few to mention. But he's dead and we're alive. And so we have a list of all the things they, the producers believe I did wrong during this show. So let's discuss them now in tonight's final segment, which we call second thoughts. I have a list of things that they believe I could have done better as a person that they've collected during this episode. I opened the Joe. I opened the show with a joke about the president having MS. You just called the show the Joe. I did. I did. I did another. Another error. I'm loving this. Let's see. I'm sorry about joking about people dying in plane crashes again, but I'm not sorry enough to stop. I lost you on Tom Cruise, but that was all your fault. Let's see. Oh, yeah. And I. You guys didn't like when I compared Rachel Maddow to the Ayatollah. I am also sorry for implying that Dolly Parton is in hell. What? It was like a little joke. - What, oh no! - She could have done more. She kept her private life private, so we really don't know. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Such an important, thank you. Let's see. Lisa, I regret that I tried to sound strong. And I regret being a guest on the show. I do start every question with, hey. And he got my ass. Do I have more? Oh, yeah. I let Nina make me too confident. That is actually my fault. What kind of sick, twisted mental games do we have now going back and forth with the people that produce this show? Why do you want me insecure and anxious all the time? Why is that good for you? I apologize to the staff. Don't apologize to them. Thoughts and prayers. I violated the NDA I signed before playing Mafia with Whitney Cummings. There was no NDA. The name dropping, I think, was a lot for me. I was going to say. But also, you didn't say whether you won the game or not. Well, that was intentional. I was, I believe, I got out, so all I remember, I definitely did not, I did not win. But I don't remember if I was in the Mafia or not, but I remember once I was out, everybody was just riveted by the performance that my friend, who shall remain nameless, was putting on. Meryl Streep? Let's just say her, let's call her, yeah, yeah, let's call her, yeah. Rhyme her name. What? Who can remember? You know, Julia Bobberts. Oh, sure. That's not true. Great rhyming of the first day. She didn't want to play, she just wanted to hang. I wasn't at a party with Julia Roberts. That never happened. One day. Wait, what did you say about Tom Cruise earlier? Oh, just that he's going to die making whatever Mission Impossible movie he makes last. Oh, okay. I find fandom of Tom Cruise kind of annoying. He's only good when he's playing evil people. I love him in Magnolia, and I love him in Rain Man. Otherwise, he's boring to me. Thank you. Look at you. Look at you. Pearls before fucking swine. That man gives us everything that he has. And if Scientology makes someone that intense, committed, passionate, disciplined, and serious, get my hands on that fucking e-meter, because I'm in. I'm in. I don't even want to be up here while you're saying that. He's a gift. He's a gift to us. Well, he was a gift. He was a gift, but now we have High Rock, so now we can all do that. And I have only one last regret, which is that's our show. Thank you so much to Lisa Gilroy, to Louis Rattel, and Nina Parker. There are 41 days until the midterms. We'll be back Friday with MS Now's Rachel Maddow, Michelle Collins, and Nimesh Patel. Thanks, everybody. Love It or Leave It is a Crooked Media production. Our show is produced by Kendra James, Bill McGrath, Telsa Gante, and me, John Lovett. Our production team includes Hallie Kiefer, Sarah Lazarus, Raman Borsalini, Peter Miller, David Tolles, Claudia Shang, Jay Banks, Raul Calderon, Gavin Purcell, and Matt DeGroat. And our production staff is proudly unionized with the Writers Guild of America East. Right now, the midterms are the biggest story in American politics, but however they go, the Democratic Party is going to have to do some serious soul-searching. It's going to be the Posse of America hosts and some of the smartest people in politics, and we're going to try to answer some big questions. CrookedCon.com