Everybody Is Doing A Pod w/ Sara Foster

(upbeat music) - Hey everyone, I'm Morgan Stewart and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm gonna be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change, okay? Now, let's get into it. What's Aaron's sign? - Um, she's on the cost of Leo Virgo. I'm triple Aquarius. - I don't, why did you, oh my god. Okay, can I tell you something? - I'm gonna be rolling at all times. - Wait, can I tell you? - Okay, you guys, I am so fucking excited. I know I start every podcast with this, but I want to just say first and foremost, Sarah Foster is here, number one. - People are like, who's that? - Who's that? - Google, Google me. - No, everyone's fucking thrilled. I just want to say, you and I have never met. This is the first time we're meeting in person. This came together so naturally, we DMed a month ago. I said, will you come on the pod? - I slid into yours. - You slid into my DMs, I answered immediately. - It was like the next day. - It was fast. - I answered the second I saw it. - I love that. I hate playing games. - I hate playing games. And I've noticed as I've tried to book people on the pod, people are like, I want to come on, I want to come on, and then it gets a little flaky. And then my ego gets crazy. And I'm like, no. - Yeah. - Just don't say you want to come on. - But also, it's okay to admit that. It hurts your feelings. Like you know when people say, don't take it personally, I take everything personally. - I take it. - I take everything and it's terrible. I understand, but how are you not supposed to take it personally when somebody I will not say her name? - Yep. - We had a meeting with her. - Oh my God. - She's like a big, not even up and coming now. She's super major. She's a stand. She's amazing. - She's a what? - She's a standout? - She's an actress. She's all the things. And hit it off, and we were like, we'd love for you to come on the pod. I would love to come on the pod. So I write her. You're ready to come on the pod. She's like, honestly, I'm just not doing pods right now. And then I see her on like four fucking pods. - By the way, the nod. - I'm like, what? - The nod. - The nod for the pod, shut the fuck up bitch. Everyone's doing a fucking pod. All God damn day. - All the time, Josie, I'm doing a pod. - I'm 100%. - Just be like, you're beneath me. I don't know. Just be like, I don't want to be associated with you. - Can I honestly, you know what? Good for you? Because honestly, just say, I don't think your podcast is the right thing for me to go on right now. I would respect you way more. - Totally. - Or like, I've had someone say, I'm going to be honest with you. I listen to your pod. I love your pod. I think I would be too nervous, and I know you'll get me to say things that I just don't really want to say. I respect it. - People say that to me, but is that kind of bullshit? - Totally. - It's all code. Am I fucking up? It's all code for you or beneath me. And because, let's be honest, everyone's looking for more views. Everybody wants more people that stays on their brand. That's all they want, right? I mean, what do you mean, A-list movie stars want brand, want eyeballs for their brands? Everyone's just trying to figure out, how are we going to get more of this? How are we going to find our customer? How are we going to do this? Everyone's looking for a pod to do. Let's say you're beneath me, Sarah Foster, and it's all, I can look at it. Can I tell you, you remind me of a few people, and I don't know who they are yet, but they're going to come to me. And I was going to say, like, I always get really nervous when I do a podcast. - I get nervous. - Like, no, my own. Like, anytime someone comes, like, I have, like, my whole body is, like, kind of trembling. - In person's crazy. I do mine on Zoom. - I do it in person. I get very nervous, and I was like, you were going to be my guinea pig of feeling relaxed, because I knew the energy was going to be so good, and I'm so glad. I have all these notes, and I feel like we're just going to talk about whatever we want to talk about. - Isn't energy everything? - Well, first of all, people get mad at me, but I don't care. - You're triple Aquarius. You told me off-camera. - Yeah. - My daughter's an Aquarius. My son is an Aquarius. You're triple Aquarius. You don't come off as an Aquarius to me. You're very outgoing. - It's interesting, but then there are so many things about me. I'm also very cold and standoffish, and I will turn on you in a dime. - No, but not in a vindictive malicious way, but one minute, people are like, we're best friends. It's working. It's going. I will wake up one day and just be like, I'm done. - Not with you, though. - Do you feel good about me? - I do feel good about you. - Did you think you were going to like me? - Yeah, of course. I wouldn't be here if I didn't think I would like you. I wrote you. I was like, whatever you're this thing, because of course I've known who you are for a long time. Vice versa. I mean, hello. I didn't know you, and then I just started seeing you on social, and you just, I'll tell you what I loved. I loved you went on something. You're very self-deprecating. You don't, it's like how I am. Like we have self-awareness. - Right. - Good. - And I don't have a lot of patients for people that don't have self-awareness. I'm the first person to be like, stop calling me a celebrity. I'm not a celebrity. Like I'm de-less. - You're definitely not de-less. - But I just have this, you're aware of who you are in your place. - Yeah. Right? - I probably have really low self-esteem too, but I just feel like we're not trying to be anyone. We're not. We're not delusional people. We're self-aware. - We're not. - So I feel like that's what I liked about you. - Thank you. I appreciate it. And I think going back to energy, it is very tricky, because I think in a world with going back to your point, like views, discoverability, like people just want to be the best and the most relevant more now than I think ever before. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, I think because it's tangible for people right now, which is a beautiful thing, but it's also like delusional because-- - A little delusional. I'm like my dentist wants to like have a podcast and a brand and like, is this Dr. Appa? - No, but I have a appointment with Dr. Appa. - I know, because can I tell you so I've been talking about you, so now my phone's picking up on it and it's getting creepy. So now I saw you on all these other podcasts and I'm like, I don't want to, I'm the opposite of research. I don't want to go in having anything like known about you. I want to come in and just like, ask you maybe some of the same questions you've been asked, but like at least get something different. So I saw the thing about teeth, Erin said, you're obsessed with teeth. Are you obsessed with teeth? You have great teeth. - I said, Dr. Appa's like the Jacob Allority of teeth because she did not get it. - She did not get it. - I was with her and then I was like, no, I'm going to ride with Sarah on this, but it was a little-- - Yeah, she didn't get it. - No, I have a Jacob, I have good teeth, but I look, we're so desensitized now because I see people out in the world all the time and it doesn't occur to me, oh, they probably have veneers, which no shade. I have full veneers on that. They're so good. Full. They're beautiful. - The bottom are all mine. But to be honest, I just, I don't even know, yeah, I just needed to. - No, I needed to. - We're desensitized. We see people out in the world, everyone looks great and a lot of it is bought, which is totally fine, but then I start going, well, wait, I need fake teeth too. Do I need hair extensions? - Oh, I'm in that. - Is this all your hair? - This is my hair minus two clips. Your hair looks great and your face looks, I mean, you, I said this to you. You look all joking aside. You look 28. - You're such a liar. - Is she not? - No, no, no. You put them in that. - I mean, I knew you were hot. You're like an effortless hot, and I, but I will say something else now that I'm looking at you. You look more like air, you guys look more alike than I realize. - Yeah. - Well, in here, it's funny because people who really know us think that we do not look alike. But then people who don't know us see us out in the world, and they'll go up to her, and they'll be like, hey, thinking it's me, and she will not have a clue who they are. So she's like a bitch to them, I love them. And then that person will go out in the world, be like, you know, you know, who's a real bitch? Sarah Foster. I saw her. I said hi to her at blah, blah, blah. She didn't even give me the time of day. And it's Erin. - I can tell you, I want to get some more time with Erin because I think it would be one of my goals to make her like me because she's a hard get. I don't think she likes me. - That's okay. But that's fine. She has to like you a little bit. - She's really. She's tough. - She's younger than you are. - A year and a half. So we're like Irish twins. - Oh, I have Irish twins. I didn't know you guys were that close. - A year and a half. - You grew up in LA? - Yeah. - Where did you go to high school? - Crossroads. - You went to Crossroads? - Yeah. - Did Erin go to Crossroads? - No, she went to Malibu Public School. - Oh, you're like, I'm better than her. - I went to Crossroads. - I was like, I'm not going to Malibu High. I was like, I didn't drink. I didn't do drugs. - You didn't party, no, never. - Oh. - Okay, good. - I clubbed. - Obviously. - How to fake idea of 15? - Okay. - Was in the club, outlay, dancing, doing all the things, but was never drinking. - Where were you going in the club? Dragonfly? - I remember well. - No, you don't. - Oh my god, dragonfly. I was, I think I was like 14. Did you ever get into the sky bar? - Yeah. - I remember that, like, I remember like it was yesterday. The first time I actually, you know, they opened the rope or whatever when I walked up. I was like, oh, I've made it. You've made it. By the way, I now just want to talk about LA, but you have so many accomplishments we have to get into. - Not that many. - You have a lot. - I feel like I was like, what are we going to talk about today? Well, first of all, my first question to my producer and I were like, are we going to ask her this? I get into people's morning routine and she's like, I think Sarah's really into that. Are you a healthy girl? - I am a healthy girl. And I wish I was a healthier girl early. - Okay. - Earlier. - Okay, how healthy are we talking and what do you mean? - I mean, I just, there are so many hacks that you can do. There are so many things that you can do. Like, let's start super simple. Okay, when you wake up in the morning, don't go straight for your coffee. When you wake up in the morning, you need to flush out your system. Water. Water, lemon, and salt. High quality salt. Like sea salt. Not iodine. - I just Google the good salt. That is how you, because you want to hydrate before you dehydrate with your coffee. Another thing. A kiwi. Every morning. A freaking kiwi. Let me tell you something. You are always going to be regular. And let me just be clear. I'm not an expert. I don't have a wellness. I don't have a nutritionist. Lice it. You know, I think a lot of people like to deem themselves this source. I mean, I've just done my own research online. Fact check me always. I'll just tell you what's working for me. Okay, and wait, how long have you been doing this? I've been two years. I started late. I started late. But you've always maintained. You've looked great. I've always prioritized sleep. I am the person. I don't know if this makes me type A or what this makes me. If I know I have to be in a situation where I won't get a full eight hours, I will cancel a dinner with friends. 100% the same. The only thing I won't cancel is a birthday because I think you show up for birthdays. You know what? That is. Are we the same person? That is? That says you were very well raised. Really? Are you showing up for a birthday is very important. With a gift, with a card, you stay till fucking cake is served. And then you leave. If you were not able to fulfill that obligation, you don't go. 100%. Because I have been the person, I get my feelings really hurt. If someone doesn't call me, text me or show up on my birthday. It's kind of like, okay, noted, and it's hard to recover. You know, I am. Like I actually go year by year, like energy wise, like this year was not as good energy wise as last year. And this year I told some of my friends, like don't post any old photos because I don't want to have to repost your stories. But then no one did. And I was like, are you out of your mind? You need to be posting photos to me from back in the day. I was just going to say, I sort of feel relieved that in my friend group and my world, we don't do birthday posts anymore. Yes, okay. Because, and it was, it's just sort of like some unsaid thing, too many hurt feelings. And I think you can say, guys, you're like a hundred years old, like get over it. But no, it actually does mean something when your friend is posting this glorious montage for one of friend. And then for the other, I'm kind of like, well, say no more. Well, what about? I know where we stay. But I do feel like the Aquarius, like Aquarius is our cutthroat, like they dept, like my daughter, I see it now. She likes who she likes and doesn't like who she doesn't like. And she's five years old. I hold a grudge. And she won't, you hold it. I hold it. So like if somebody apologizes to you, will you give in? Or like, it's really hard for me to recover. Okay. So I can recover it with my sister. That is your built-in. Of course. Of course. That is blood. She and I. Well, you have two sisters to be here. I have two sisters. Jordan is the youngest. The youngest. The youngest. Good I researched. Good. She lives in New York. She's a stylist. Jordan's cool. Yeah. Jordan's cool. Yeah. And she is the style director of favorite daughter. Yes. I knew that. Yeah. I knew that. So her and I have a much more because we work together less. But Aaron and I work together in every single thing that we do. So we will like almost go to blows. Truly. And then we recover because she's the aunt of my kids. My kids are obsessed with her. Of course. She's my sister. But if you, if you are just a friend or in anything else, it's really hard for me to recover once you've hurt me. Have you had bad falling outs with friends? You know. I feel like you're a girls girl and you have lots of friends. I feel like there's lots of friends around you. There are. I'm a girls girl. I always say like, I think I could have a birthday party with 200 people. But I don't. That's very different than like close friends who really know what I'm going through. But also don't you think I don't have a lot of those? With your sister, it's kind of built in that you don't really need to expand beyond that. No, because she judges me. Does she judge you? I don't tell her everything. Do you see? I can't tell. That's a bit. Or if she really does. I don't think she seems judgmental. She is. She's the best. She's like, first of all, she's like the most talented. She is like the Nora Efron of our generation. Her voice, her writing is something that just nobody else has right now. It just doesn't. I can never take that away from her. Maryne is somebody who has such integrity and moral ethics. She's like the ethics police and all the things that we do. She stands by, she lives by her word. She really does. And it's so annoying sometimes because I'm like, honey, let's take the money. You know what she's like? Let's take the fucking money. But I can't because I have a research where the quality of the blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm like, girl, like we could be dead in a week, but we could be dead in a week. But no, it's good. It's good in a partnership to have, I mean, I have morals too. But hers are just really rigid, rigid. Yeah, I'm kind of the same way. I'm like, well, we should take the, you know what, it's just with myself, but it's sometimes you got to just take the money, sometimes within reason. I think more like Aaron and I were, we were early investors in this company called the mirror. Okay. It was a workout mirror. Did you know about this? Of course. My mother-in-law has like nine. Okay, great. So when it was acquired by a little lemon, it was really loud. It was all the things we got offered a deal with, tonal, a lot for a lot of money. Oh, man. Oh, man. Is this going to hurt? Well, no, because ultimately I think it pays off and because we didn't take it, because we were like, if we go to this, we will lose all the people that are going to ride with us as we go into the different ventures in our lives are going to be like, those bitches are full. You can swear on this, right? Oh, you can say whatever the fuck you want. Okay. Okay, okay. Those girls are fucking liars and brutal because one minute they're telling us to buy the mirror and the next minute they're like, don't buy that actually by tonal, which is essentially the same thing. Going back to being self-aware, having a through line. You grew up here. You went to Crossroads. Did you graduate and then go straight into acting? No. So I, you know, contrary to how people I think perceive as, I think people think my dad is like a billionaire. I don't know what they think. But it takes very little for people to think you're mega rich. No, it's crazy. It's, I want to be like, guys, my dad is very successful. Let me be clear, but my dad has had many wives. He has many children. Yes. And we don't have a trust fund. Right. So I always say, if shit ever hit the fan, yes, it is absolute privilege to know that you have a safety net, which would never put you on the streets. I'll never be on the streets. You know what I mean? That is privilege. Yes. 100% knowing you have that. But we don't have a trust fund, right? Now, if I go, my life is paid for by me. So I think that people have this misconception that we have sort of unlimited cash flow situation. And that, trust me, if I, I wouldn't be doing half the things I do, I think if I had unlimited no, you would. No, you would. No, I probably would. No, you would. That's in you. But wait, what was the question? Oh, crossroads. Okay. So yes. That's my second question. I remember. He raised us always saying, I am rich. You are poor. If you see this lifestyle that I am living, that's great. You're going to have to go get it for yourself. Oh, amen. Okay. So he made it very clear. He said, once high school comes, you know, once you're done, you have two options. You can go to college. Yep. I will pay for your college. Okay. I'll pay for your dorm. And you'll get X amount of dollars a month to, you know, buy your groceries. If you do not go to college, you are on your own. Wow. So I was faced with this thing of like, I had an older boyfriend. I was 17. He was like 21. I can't leave my boyfriend because he will cheat on me. He'd already cheated on me so many times. I actually found a list in his kitchen once that said, girls, I have cheated on Sarah with. Oh, my God. How to go? How to go. Hands of God. Because he was sober. So it was like part of like making amends and all these things. Not bad. He was with the list. And I stayed with him, obviously. He was very cute. By the way, you also, that's like your book title or something. I don't know. That needs to be used for something. There were 35 people in the list, including his stepmom. His stepmom was on the list. Hands of God. Yeah. Yeah. And there was like, maybe like a few guys in the mix. I don't know. I was like, I don't even know. But you were like, I gotta stay for this man. Yeah. I was the right one for him. But I love him. Daddy, I love him. I love him. I love him. So I was faced with these. I was like, I don't. College is not for me. I was like, I need to make money. Okay. You knew early, Maddie knew who she was. I knew who she was. I was like, I gotta make money. I want a nice life. I want a nice life. I want to do these things. What am I going to do? I can't go to college. I got the boyfriend. I knew this. So I moved to Paris a week after. I just took the leap. Of course, the boyfriend was like, you should go. I was like, yeah, so you can fuck your stepmom. You know, it's funny. I did not. I swear to God. I did not grow up feeling like, where'd you grow up in Santa Malibu? Malibu, okay. I got it. I grew up feeling like I want to be famous. I want to be an actress. I swear to God. I really didn't. I was like, I'm going to be a lawyer. Oh. I really, I mean, I didn't take the steps to do that. But it just didn't. And I have to like, Kate Hudson was my best friend. So she's getting movie roles. And I'm still not going like, oh, that's a life I want. It was not this thing that I manifested. So you and Kate met in high school. Yeah. And your parents and were together until how old were you? Five. No, no, no. I never experienced that. Never experienced that together. Yeah. That I remember. But so I had an opportunity. This modeling agency was like, we will, we will put you up in Paris, like in, you know, shitty model apartment situation. I was like, okay. And I was like, and how does that work? Like, I get there. I was like, well, you have to build your book. So you'll get here. And I'm thinking, well, you know, build my book. It'll take a couple of days. And then I'm going to be on like a cover of something. Yeah. I didn't know. I was like, you know, I'm cute. I'm tall. I, it'll all, it'll be fine. I get to Paris. Oh my God. As handed to you. You were like, what's going on? Paris very quickly was like, there, this is not a place for you. I was, so I'm, I'm like, just under five nine, depending on how, oh no, I don't want to hear it. Really? What my posture is, that if you in the late 90s were even a hair under five, not you were road kill. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. They were kind of like, you told us you were five nine. I was like, well, I don't know. Maybe I was standing tall or that. Okay. So how long were you in Paris? Okay. So I was in Paris for a couple months. And I got a couple gigs, but not really money. And I was like, I cannot crawl back with not even one cover. That cover. I mean, oh wait, no, I actually did get a cover. - Oh, okay, I was like definitely something. - I got the cover of Madam Figaro. I'll never forget it. It was like one of my only things. - Okay. - I know, someone must have been sick. I called in sick because it was a last minute situation, but so then I was like, oh, this is gonna be the thing. It never happened for me. It just never, ever happened for me. I go back to LA and I do start working in LA. Like I do modeling. - Yeah, like I got a Tommy Hilfiger thing. - Which is. - But every little thing, I was like, this is gonna be the thing that kind of like makes me a thing. - It makes me a catapult. - And then nothing happened. And then I got a Backstreet Boys video. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna be a Alicia Silverstone. - I was like, there we go, it's gonna totally happen now. - Nothing, nothing. - Backstreet boys, and then that was it. - Well, they put me on a turtle neck. - That is so fucking crazy. - Oh, they fucking crazy. - Was that the snow video? Like what video we talking about? - It was shape of my heart. - You were in shape of my heart? I was the girl. - That's major. - I thought so too, but apparently it wasn't. - Okay, so wait, after that, then did you, were you like, I'm gonna be an actress? - So after that? - Well, by the way, I had no intention of going this far back, but I'm obsessed with it. - Is this boring to not into things? - No, because everyone, we're gonna get all to the fancy stuff. - Okay, okay, okay. - People wanna know who people are. - No, no, for sure, for sure. So after that, okay, so after that, then I got, I heard that MTV was looking for a new VJ, and you have to understand your audience. That was the biggest thing. - That was like-- - That was like being a huge TikTok. - Oh, exactly. - Yeah. - Exactly. - Yeah. - To be on TRL, to be at all in the MTV universe, was a huge deal. So I was like, all right, I'm gonna audition for this. And I audition like five times. - Okay. - Okay, I got it, but there's a caveat. - Why is that? - Okay, there's a caveat. - I'm on this journey with you. I'm so upset. - I know, okay, so it was not, I'm thinking I'm gonna be in Times Square interviewing Destiny's Child. They go, you are the host of ET on MTV. - Entertainment tonight on MTV. - We will know. - And I go, what? - But wait, okay, notice respect. I mean, TV is TV, and it's a paying gig. But I was like, okay, that's different. - What is that even? - It was sort of music news. So I would be like reporting music news, but like in a teleprompter in a studio. - Oh no. - Listen, again, I'm like, okay. Well, I'm about to be Daisy Fuentes. I don't know, something is gonna happen. - Everyone's like, who's Daisy Fuentes? Does anyone, do people know who that, no one knows who Daisy Fuentes? I mean, I can't. Thank you, Brendan. Thank you. - Okay, who's someone that, I don't know who the equivalent of that would be today? I don't think we have one. - I don't think we have one. I don't know, but I was like, I feel like every moment was sort of like, it's gonna happen. - It's gonna happen, but I actually didn't even know. I think, for me, it wasn't like the, like, it's gonna happen, didn't mean fame. It's gonna happen meant- - Success. - Ability and security. It meant being like, I got this. I paid my bills. I can get myself a nice apartment. I don't have to ask for help. I think that's sort of what it meant to me. Because also then, in the late '90s, early 2000s, there was no tears of people. It was like, you were a list in us weekly or we didn't know who you were. - A hundred percent. That was it. There was no like, mid-tier people. Like, we didn't know, you only knew who someone was. If you saw them in a movie, a TV show, heard them on the radio. - Or they were dating someone famous. - Or they were dating someone famous and then we would see them in magazines, which were magazines were the Bible. - And also checking out at the market. Like, you saw all those tablets, that's what it was. - Yes. - I think in a lot of ways, a better time. Like, I was so young during that time, but you're still like the best time. - Now, you're kind of like, who's, there's so much of so much. - No, I remember I was dating this guy who was super famous. And every, I really can't say, I really won't say. - I'll tell you. - And every Wednesday, I would go to the fucking thing, going like, I know this is gonna be the week where I see that he's with someone, like doing something with someone else. Like, that's how we would find our information out. And then obviously, driving by and stalking. - Yeah, of course, good old fashioned. - Good old fashioned stalking. - That will never change. The amount of drive I used to do. Trust me. Okay, so then, let's talk about, so funny enough, 'cause this, I told you this off camera, but this image of you, before I even knew you, seared into my brain, you coming out of the ocean with Adam Sandler, I don't remember. - Oh, and Wilson. - Sorry, oh, and Wilson. But was Adam Sandler in the movie? - No, but movie is this. - What movie is this? - It was called The Big Bounce. - The Big Bounce. I don't remember anything. I have like flashes of things in my life because you love yellow. - I just remember that scene for some reason. And then like, I guess years later, I put it together that you were the girl. So, how did you get into The Big Bounce? - So, just auditioning. - Yeah, so from the MTV thing, somebody was like, there's this movie, you would be perfect for it. You should audition for it. And I was like, what, I don't even know how to act. What do you mean? That's okay, you know, and then I'm thinking like, well, Cameron Diaz didn't know how to act. She just got discovered in big Donald. - Literally, just looking like that. - Just like looking like that. I was like, okay, all auditions. So, I auditioned and then I got a call back. And then I kept auditioning to understand that I got this role over Scarlett Johansson. - Shut the fuck up. Like, how dumb are those producers? - Clearly not, 'cause I remember the scene very well. - Clearly, no, clearly dumb. 'Cause the movie made like $45. And I think that was all from like my family who went to the movies to see it. It was a total bomb. So, that was another situation where I was like, oh, I'm gonna be Cameron Diaz. Here we go. - Okay. - Bomb. - Movie, when I tell you, it was the biggest, I don't know if there's ever been more of a bomb. - So, wait. - That's the box off. - So, you do that. And then how do you meet, and we can obviously cut everything out, 'cause I'm just like following along. You have a 15-year-old daughter? - Mm-hmm. - You have a 15-year-old daughter. That's crazy. - And you have a younger daughter. How old is she? - 10. - 10 and 15? - Yeah. - Okay, and then you met their father when? - I met him in 2000, well, I met him in 2004 in New York. And I saw him and he was playing in the US Open. And I saw him at Nobu next door. And I was like, that is the best looking guy I've ever seen. In my entire life, I'd seen him on TV that day playing. He was eating with a friend, walked over, blah, blah, blah, long story. - He just walked over, like, he was eating with a friend of mine. - Oh, mutual friend. - Oh, so mentored. - Yeah, okay. - Walks over, of course, so cute. We hit it off. I leave Nobu in New York, and I go to Bungalow 8. - Obviously. - Met a guy. - Met a guy. - Oh. - Started dating that guy for two years. - The night I met the father of my kids. - Okay. - So then two years later. - Oh, my God, I love the, I know these stories are good. - Two years later, so we had been emailing me and Tommy and I. But I was like, down dating this other guy. So that fizzled. And then two years later, I'm in Hawaii with Kate. And she goes, isn't that the guy you were texting or emailing two years ago? He was playing in the Australian Open. - Oh, okay, I thought he was on the beach. I'm like, what's happening? - On TV playing in the Australian Open. And I go, yeah, he's so cute. And she was like, you should write him. And I said, absolutely not. Like, I'm not a desperate loser. I'm not going to write him. And I ghosted him two years ago. How, what am I supposed to do? I don't even think I have an email anymore. She takes my phone. She goes, you sure do? - You sure do. - And she emailed him the dumbest email. - What was it? Do you remember? - Hey, Tommy, this is so crazy. But I'm sitting here in Hawaii and you're on TV. I go, it's NBC. - It's like the quarter finals. It's not that crazy. It's not that odd. This is the worst email he responds right away. And that was it. - That was it? - Yeah. - And after, did you, how long were you together before you had kids? - Seven, oh, we were together five, four years before we had Valentina. Yeah. - Okay. - Yeah. - And then you're married or you're not married? - No. - No, we never got married. - You never got married. But you're not together anymore. - No. - But you live together. Sort of, yeah. I mean, he's a Florida resident. He travels all the time for work. So he, when he's in LA, yes, we do. - Okay. So you're free to date other people. - Yeah. - You are a single lady. - Yeah. - Are you dating? - I don't think so. - It's, I don't know. It's just, I'm not. I love being alone. - Yeah. - It's actually a problem. - Mm-hmm. - I can see myself being that, like, old person where I'm, like, dead for days and no one knows. - God, for, oh my God. Guys, we can't let that happen. You'll be around, right? - Right. - Like, someone will be there to make sure we at least locate. Okay. - Like, that would happen to me. Like, oh, God, she's been dead for 10 days and no one knew. - No, oh my God. - Yeah. - But I feel-- - It's dark, but it's true. - I'm kind of, you have a full house because you have two kids. - Yeah, I have two kids. - Teenage daughter. - Always full house. - How is that? How is it raising a teenage daughter? - I caught it. - Is she, what's the vibe? 'Cause I was in contact. You know, it's so interesting. She is, she, the universe, God brought her to me as payback for how I was. - Yeah, I think we're all. - I think we're all gonna get that. - Like, Josie is an angel. Josie is a unicorn. - Yep. - The 10-year-old, she is an angel. Valentina is an angel too. But she's not an angel to me, but she's an angel to everybody else. - Yep. - 'Cause she feels safest with you, right? She gets to throw all the daggers at you, all the frustration she feels. - Yeah. - 'Cause she knows you'll take it. - 100%. - Listen, mom is safe. - Mom is safe. - Mom is safe to try out all your behaviors on. - Yes. - Because mom is never going anywhere. Mom is always gonna be there. That's why mothers and daughters, it's so complicated. Because we take the brunt of all of their angst and all of their fears and anxiety and it's all in us. - 100%. - Uh-huh. - Where you close with your mom growing up? - You know, I was, but I was like a weird kid kind of. I was very independent and. - Mm-hmm. - Aquarius. - Yeah. I made like a PowerPoint presentation when I was 13 on why I should be able to move out into an apartment. - Okay. I just didn't want to be parented. I didn't want to be parented. I wanted to be an adult. I'm sure I was, you know, escaping. We had very complicated family dynamics as every family does. - Yeah. about mine. But it was it was come. - It was a complicated childhood. - Okay, got it. So you have 15-year-old, 10-year-old, we don't know if you're getting married again. - I've never been married. - I know, but I'm saying like a long-term partner to be like being married. - Yeah sure. I think you will. - You do? - Yeah, and I don't think that far away. I feel like, yeah, why not? I think you're gonna get to a point where you're like, okay, I should share this life with somebody, right? - I don't always say like one of my best girlfriends and my kids two, but we're not attracted to each other. We'd have a great life. Are they, are most of your friends married? - Yeah, okay. - Yeah, I don't have a lot of single friends. - Do I? - Well, I imagine 'cause they all have kids probably around the same age. - Are your friends all married? - I guess kind of, yeah, now. But then not. It's the friends that are not married do not have kids. - The friends that are not married. I like that. They don't have kids. - I like that women don't feel as rushed. - The nobody's rushing. - No, I had Valentina at 29, and it felt young. (upbeat music) - I love that you're getting out of your chair. - Right, yeah. - I just had to like move around, shake off. - Shake off. - I had to just like get my body. - I mean, I know you do the podcast with your sister, but it's fucking a lot to lock in for a whole hour and talk about stuff. - Yeah, but you're easy to talk to. That's why you're good at this. - I'm glad that you feel that way. 'Cause I'm like. - I'm rushing. - People really like you. Do you feel that? - I feel I'm in a really weird headspace right now. - Really? - Part of me is like, not that I just signed this and I'm so excited, but like part of me is like, is it time to just like give it up? Like have you had your time and like starting? - I am I, I feel like I've been doing this. - I feel like I'm just starting. You have a useful energy. - Really? - Yeah, so do you. - I do, but I just, I think I've gotten, I've become extremely insecure. Extremely. And I'm even like, well, am I good at that? Is that good enough? Should I be doing that? - Should I just stay and be like a full-time mom and be at my kid's school, which by the way, fun fact, you're, which I said sister-in-law, but it's your stepmom. Your stepmom and I are gonna be in the same kindergarten class. - Stop. - Yeah, that's fine. - I saw her last week at the thing and I was like famous person to famous person, kind of. Thank God you're here. - Yeah. - Because, oh no, she's so fantastic. - She's gorgeous. - She's so gorgeous. And I'm so obsessed with her even more than-- - She told me she went to Nashville. You were, you just opened a favorite daughter's store. - They were, yeah. And she taught my 10 year old how to write a bike. - She's okay. - She gives that energy. - You guys, if you're not a perilous thing to this, you don't get that. This doesn't mean anything to you. But I am learning to write a bike is really hard. It's really hard and it's something. I've always had this insecurity that I don't know how to teach my kids how to write a bike. I'm some kind of loser deadbeat parent. - Sarah was 14. I could not do it before 14. - No, no, no, no, no. That's not a bit. That's not a joke. That's not like, "Oh, I'm so relatable." Could not. It was like borderline. Do we need to get her tested for like, it could not do it. Could not do it. - Where are your parents trying to teach you? - A lot for many years. It was very, I grew up on a hill. So it was like, that was challenging. But I remember one time I just went right down that hill straight into the bushes. There were spikes and things everywhere. I grew up on a street called the (beep) - Oh, wait, in LA? - Yeah. - Okay, that's right. Okay, yeah. - Wait, where'd you go to high school? - The Lisa. - Oh, she. - So the bike was very challenging. So I'm glad that you have somebody helping you with this. - No, I know, but it takes so much patience to teach someone to write a bike. And the fact that she was like Josie, we were in Nashville staying at the cutest hotel. - Wait, this just happened? - This just happened. - Holy fuck. - Josie's 10, and she's like a super athlete. Like she will be a professional tennis player. She is the most athletic. She's obsessed, but she can't write a bike. So I'll like wake up at two in the morning. And I'll be like, I fail as a parent. She can't write a bike. This is so embarrassing. What have I done? I'm so lazy. And so Catherine was like, we're not doing this anymore. Josie, let's go right now. Let's go right now. And I go, we're like sitting at breakfast. And I was like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm gonna teach you how to write a bike. And of course, at that moment, I'm like, all the shame is like. - On you. - I'm dripping down my body, but then I'm also like, damn. All right. - Fuckin' take it on. - She learned in like 30 minutes. - She gives me, where is Catherine from? - Here. - She grew up in the valley. - She grew up in like Van Aes. - Oh, she gives me like South Carolina. - Yeah. - She gives me down home. - Yeah, no, she's really fantastic. - From the valley, she's like one of us, okay. - Yeah, she's one of us. - Holy shit. - And she has her and my dad have a five year old and he's the shooting. - When I spotted him in the crowd amongst the other five year olds in the class, I was like, really, let's not fuck around. There's one shot at this. - Oh, they could date. - They could, by the way, they will. - Like, there's no other option. Like, this is already being set up. - Yeah. - And they'll go the whole way. - Yeah, yeah. - And also going deeper into the weeds. - Wait, so then your daughter will be my aunt? - Yeah. - That's cool. - Tell her I'm not gonna do what she tells me to do. - You could just let her know right now. - You Aquarius queens, you can handle it together. - I tell my little brother all the time, it goes, "Don't fuck with me." - That is hilarious. - Wait, and then it's fine because you're dead. - No, no, no, your daughter will be my sister-in-law. - Sorry, not my sister. - No, yes, she'll be my, if she marries my brother, she'll be my sister-in-law. - Oh, that's your brother. - Oh my God. - That's your fucking brother, right? - Your daughter. - That is your stepmom. She birthed your half brother. - Yes, so your daughter is my sister-in-law. - I'm glad we planned this out because I'm not kidding. When I saw him at the event, I was like, all right, we got some more, this is some potential here. - He's going places. - I got the vibe. - Yeah. - I was like, "Bro, get in the fucking game right now." - Oh, everyone wants to be his friend. Yeah, you gotta get in there now. - Okay, yeah, yeah, first play it, it's set. - Oh, I'm already on it. I told her. - He's got the nice house, you know, you guys can have those pool parties. - Because also your dad and my husband text. - Yes. - It's the weirdest thing. But because my dad's really good friends with your father-in-law. - That's like he's, I've known about this, so Jordan and I dated in two phases. I knew about your dad from the beginning. They were best, best, best, best friends. Like going to the Hollywood Bowl. - You're best friends. - I'd say the weirdest story. - But your father-in-law did a cameo on my show, Barely Famous. - Did he really? - Did you ever see Barely Famous? - By the way, I haven't, and that was before it's time. - Oh. - That was before it's time. That was like the comeback. - I basically wanted to do a version of that, and it didn't work, but because it's really hard. The amount of people that are like, "We're gonna do a Barely Famous." They go, "Oh, good luck, good luck to you." - How brilliant was that show? - Look, it's so hard because obviously Aaron and I like wrote it and started it. So I want to be like, "No, stop it." But it was pretty good. - Why am I getting some flashback of you in a gas station? - Yeah. - Is that right? 'Cause the whole thing, it was like our social commentary on people's desperation to be famous and relevant. - It was, I'm sorry. - I'm sorry. - Full scripted. - Thank you for, I'm gonna go. - Yeah, where can I watch that? - Amazon. - I think you can buy it for like 10 cents on Amazon. - I'm gonna literally write it down. - No, your father-in-law was in it. And he was incredible. - That's incredible. - Okay. Your father gave my parents tickets to the Hollywood Bowl to see. - It was him, but it was with someone else. - Like Michael Boobler's, right? - No, no, no, no. We're talking, it was like huge. - He was scrubbing. - Couldn't tell you. - Like Frank Sinatra. - What? - Honestly, like, when you really wasn't good teeth, I need, who did your teeth? I need the-- - Dr. (beep) - They really are gorgeous. - Aren't they gorgeous? So he had to shake, so I only had a few veneers and then I did the front two, 'cause he's like, they don't match. You have to redo them. So I did them twice. He was putting them in. This was on, I had like hypothyroidism post my kid. So my physical anxiety was like this. I was literally, he put them in and I had like a freak out and they all fell. And he almost was like, do you wanna ever come back? - I just saw him just drain, but he is the best fucking dentist. He should give me a discount because my mom did her teeth with him. - I'm about to do it. - I'm telling-- - First of all, I'm so expensive. - But I'm telling you, you do not need fake teeth. - Here's what I want. - I'm a black coffee drinker. - I drink my coffee, black. - I also, I also know I put so much sugar in it. Don't worry, I'm disgusting. - Do you think you just do half and half? - I put in 900 pounds of sugar in it. - Like Splenda? - Absolutely not, don't you ever use-- - No, I would never, but what do you, what kind of sugar? - Like cane sugar. - Okay, got it. - Like literal cane sugar. - Sugar. - Okay. - Also, I take liquid vitamins and they have a tint to it. Which is like, guys, if you're making liquid vitamins, stop putting coloring in the thing. - It stains your teeth. - Wait, I have so many, I don't want you to leave. What are you taking? Can you tell us? Kiwi, first of all, I just bought kiwis twice this week, so I'm on the kiwi trend. - I definitely have blueberries before I have coffee, but now I'm getting up. I'm drinking a full-water with electrolytes. Do you like electrolytes? - I do, but I make my own electrolyte. It's just salt. - It's just salt. - I just do lemon and salt. - So I shouldn't do like the additive ones. Yeah, obviously, those are bad for you. - No, they're good. I mean, that element stuff is good. Like, I'll use that. I drink that a lot, but I start my morning with like a super clean flush. - What is your lunch? - You know, I'm not like a big, okay, so when I'm down to the favorite daughter offices, there's-- - Where is that? - It's downtown LA. There is a gourmet market down there called Hank's. - Okay. - It makes Air One present as like an Albertson's. - Okay. - By the way, whoa, deep cut. Sorry. - I haven't heard of an Albertson's in-- - Okay, Ralph's. Ralph's is nice. - But Albertson's, when was the last time there was an Albertson's around? - I don't know, like Publix. Like, Hank's is so much more superior than any grocery store I've ever, ever been to. - I mean, listen, no f--, you know, listen. Air One, the prices are so offensive. I'm so offended personally by the prices. - Astronomical. - So you can drive on down to Hank's, okay? - Which is where I walk there. And every day they have a buffet of the best brisket, chicken fajitas, cilantro, rice. - She's got a memory. - She's got a chicken. Okay. - Holy shit. - So if I'm downtown at the offices, that's what I'm having. I'll do, like, and it's so exciting. I look forward to it. Okay. I don't eat breakfast. If I don't eat breakfast, I want to die. - Yeah, I know. I'm if I have to it would be avocado toast, but I don't I've no appetite. I don't eat eggs. I quit eggs eggs are bad for you So I'm about eggs. Okay. I used to get chronic strep throats my whole life I would get strep throat all the time like I would have upper respiratory problems. Jesus Christ all The time and I couldn't figure out like what's going on? Like I'm a healthy person. I don't smoke even though I did smoke You know a lot then yeah a lot that fabulous God, I love I love a cigarette an American spirit cigarette if I have that that means you're really cool It's my therapy, but if I have it I can't do it the next day. No done one drink two cigarettes I'm gone now also one cigarette and I have new wrinkles. No, I you have no wrinkles Are you bo-toxing? Oh, yeah, but I only do it three times here Oh, and I go to a an eye doctor to do it is it lasting then because mine's not lasting No, but like look at my forehead. No, like I have like crazy You have no resting lines and you have no elevens and your skin's amazing. Are you feeling under your eyes? No Okay, but I can I'm asked about it. I can't I'll tell you why here's here's the thing when it comes to beauty stuff We cannot look at what other people do and then go I want to do that because our anatomy is different does not allow itself So I have a very low brow. I was told at 25 by my dermatologist You're gonna need a brow lift one day and I go I've never been so offended in my life your brows are not low Girl, they're not low. I go on chat GPT and I literally say what I'll show you what show me me with a brow lift Like I'm I obsess over it because You have to be careful if the wrong Botox comes near me it will bring everything down you have to be I can't go to some minima like a Botox. It will ruin. It's a very My forehead is very complicated. Okay. I have a very complicated for you doing any fillers in the cheeks So I do know nothing in the cheeks, but I'll tell you what I do which I swear by nope I do sculptor in my temples. Yeah, everyone's doing it sculptor my temples. Is that hurt? Don't you dare put sculptor here. Okay. I've put it. I've done sculpted it before he did a little under my nose I go here Any last wait. I I think sculptor and I know doctor say it's bad, but it's been good for me I've never done threads. I've never done any kind of surge like I mean my boobs. Yes, but like I don't have you read on them No, how long have you had him? I got them in 2014 and no problems No, but I it's bad, right? You got to do it redo. I got to redo them. I think you're feeling okay I don't think you need to but you know what's unbelievable and this is a cautionary tale. I have like no feeling in my nipples So guys if you're doing this if you're thinking about it do not go through the nipple through the armpit Wherever you got to go through the asshole like literally go anywhere I if I need my nipples back. Okay, so if you're listening and can give me my nipples back I'll pay seriously. I think you need to focus on your nipples more than your teeth Nipples are more important than teeth Your teeth are great your face is great. Let me tell you what my parents used to say to me They were lying, but I'm not lying to you looks are not your problem Anything having to do with you is really interesting though. It's like it. How did you feel about turning 40? Was that tough? I'm taking my jacket off. You know what the hardest year for me was 39 Let's talk about it 39. Tell me why I had a fucking panic attack really Because I hold your daughter then I'm not good at math. I know. I'm not either. I don't know why it was kind of it was kind of rude I still count on my fingers. You were 29. She was younger. Yeah, she was 10. Okay. Yeah, the older one was 10 the younger one was five Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, uh, Steven Hawking over here literally just like that basic ass now There was something about 39 which was like you have one more year This is it you've got one more year Like why are you not happy? Why do you not have all the things you want? Why don't you wake up every day feeling fulfilled what it was like This this this 30 was kind of gnarly - I think also because I had like a baby And I felt like a loser and I just didn't I felt like I was just nobody and I felt like 30 was crazy But I had this relationship to give me purpose. I had like a partner who is still then You know, I was doing like movies here. I was on you know the show remember the show the reboot of now I know two and oh, so I was a regular on that show. I was on that for five seasons. Okay. Yeah, okay And so that gave me purpose obviously, but I wasn't like the lead. So all the young people kind of got all the attention Very young. Yeah, I was like 28. That's very I was on it from 20. I was on it from 27 to 30 That's a long time and that's still very young. Yeah, don't you feel like every year you get younger now? Are you kidding? You realize if I meet now a 30 year old I'm like, where's your diaper? Where is your diaper? Where's your are you still breastfeeding even 35 right? Yeah, totally I just wish my most beautiful like I felt my prettiest at 38 38 is the prettiest year really. Yeah, it's my prettiest year I think that like in the last two years. I'm like am I starting to really like age Because I had set I had great pregnancies, but I had so much happen that I was so stressed for so long That I was like, I think it's starting to like take shape. I think they were in an interesting. I think of in the next five years like There's gonna be a lot of shit that we can take. Do you drink? No, you don't drink alcohol. No, I don't drink alcohol I'm not sober, but it doesn't I don't sit down and order a drink if you go to dinner with your girlfriend so you have a glass of wine. No, absolutely not no It's just I my days I I treasure my days in a way that I never have because I did spend so many years with empty days where I used to be like I wish Like I had things to do you remind me of Chloe Kardashian a little bit. I love Have you ever gotten that? I love Chloe so much. No, but I'm obsessed with Chloe. I just was saying this I could Chloe is such a catch She's never want to compete for a guy with Chloe because she's gonna win every time But you you remind me of three people. I don't know who those people are, but one of them is Chloe Who are the other people? There's like there's a sparkliness to you and an ease that I'm like I know Pete I just don't know who they are. I don't think they're famous. I think I know them friends. That's nice something, but I have to talk about your accomplishments now because I feel like we're talking about everything We've gone in a million different loops. I want to talk about favorite daughter Okay 2021 you start how the fuck does this happen? Like really it was so weird how it happened. It was like do phone check. Do you need it? No, I love a phone check I love it. I was just like have I been talking aimlessly because I just want you to know I could talk to you for a really long time No, no, no, I feel and by the way, I am a very anxious person in a very way. I think we're gonna be friends. We I don't say that to a lot I have a lot of questions about a lot of different things for later. Okay So favorite daughter. So Aaron and I like our careers Like consistent. Yeah stagnant highs lows and like you like anybody else, right? Like anyone doing what we're all doing Yes, like there are highs or lows you can never when you're on top you can never like buy into it too much And when you're down, you can never buy into it too much. It's always going to get better But so favorite daughter Aaron and I had done this company came to us and was like Can you put some funny captions on t-shirts and sweatshirts like you guys are witty and like let's just do a cute like collab It was this company suburban riot When do you remember when Beyonce wore that sweatshirt that said kale, but it looks like Yale. Okay, there's that company There were like you guys are so funny. Let's just whatever So Aaron and I Like yeah, we can do that in our sleep We did not have a lawyer look at this deal because we were like there was no money involved It was just gonna be cute. It was just gonna be a cute thing to do. Okay So we put a bunch of captions on and one of them was favorite daughter But we didn't think anything of it. It was just oh, that's cute It ended up selling like two million dollars of t-shirts of shirts that say favorite daughter It's always how it goes, huh? The money didn't go to us. I mean we got a little bit But and we were like oh damn, but even then we were not like oh, this is a brand These women at centric brands. Oh, it's centric brands centric brands is art. We're in a joint venture. It's a 5050 joint venture Okay, okay, so we'd be nothing without them and you let me say they are the best partners. Wow. That is I have they are chills The are you talking to them? I am not talking to them. I maybe you should but they are that's so nice to hear incredible They're and by the way everyone told us not to do it Everybody but you the entire time the through line of this conversations you have good instincts about yourself every little thing that's worked for us Has been us kind of going we feel this we're gonna do it different. Yeah Thank you for the advice like and I'm talking like advice from really smart people. Yeah much smarter than us We're like don't do that. They said Do it as a license number one and then other people said Don't give away 50% of your company raise money raise money own 80% of your company And we're like well, we would rather own 50% of something that works than 80% of something that doesn't work I'm in those conversations right now. Okay. I'm a big believer in In equate in you know, keeping as much equity as you can when it makes sense But when you're in a situation like this where the operational side of it is so intense and so demanding and They're the logistics are something that I could never pretend to understand You give away 50% of your hundred percent So it wouldn't be successful without them. So this is now how many years? So this was 21 I guess and they came to us um sweatshirt and then how did we get into clothes? So Jennifer Hawkins she Jennifer Center Hawkins and Susie Pazant's they see it. They're women. They're women and they come to us and they say we think this is a brand And I looked at Aaron and I go this is not a brand like we're writers. We're now the creative directors of Bumble - Oh, I remember that I love Whitney. - Yeah, she's the best. - I love Whitney. - She's the best. - We were neighbors, we lived in the same building. - That's crazy. - Yeah, so, and that was also like a departure thing when we took that job, everyone told us not to take that job. They were like, you guys are coming off barely famous. People are now finally taking you seriously as comedians and actresses and whatever from barely famous. Why are you gonna go do this tech job? And we were like, it's just, it's a cool opportunity. And also going back to what you said at the beginning of the interview, like you take everything personally, do you operate from that place for work? - Maybe. - Yeah. - From like your company now, like if somebody's not doing, like, well, you know, it's so it's interesting. So when we launched the company, I sat in a meeting and I was like, I'll get us into shop-up. (laughing) And they were like, cute, how will you do that? And I go, well, Aaron and I, when we were doing all of our press for barely famous season two, we were the shop-up muses. And they paid us and we were like the faces of shop-up for like a month, you know? I've got this, like hold my beer. - Hold my beer. - Yeah, and they were like, okay, cool. And so I email my contact, obviously. A shop-up, I'm like, hey, congratulations. I'm launching a clothing brand and I'm gonna let you have it. And they were like, that's so cute. Let us know when you have sales. - Wow. - They were like, thank you but no, thank you. - Damn, oh, stupid! - Hey, that was like, okay, that was sort of my first, got put, you know, maybe got put in her place. But by the way, I needed it. I needed it because I had no concept of this landscape of, you know, like wholesale. And it's a whole thing. - It's a whole thing. - And so, Jeff Lewis, I love you so much. - Oh, I love you so much. - I love a pop-in. It's such a community. - I tattooed him. I was like, I'll be here. He's like, and by the way, I was turned around getting photos taken by a 21-year-old girl who didn't believe I had kids, which was a big moment for me. And she, and he was like, I didn't know if that was Sara. You, I'm like, I am gonna fucking take it. - I'm gonna take it. - Oh my God. Yeah, we do sort of have like the same vibe, I think. - I mean, yeah, but no offense, but we're not, no. - Okay, wait. So, okay, so yes. So then, so then a year goes by, shop bob emails. - But you're doing a year doing, what did you launch with? - We launched, well, we launched in COVID. So we pivoted and then launched with a mask hoodie. It was like our proprietary, I mean, you couldn't, you know, patent it, but nobody else was doing it. And we created a mask hoodie. This adorable hoodie with a built-in mask. And that was kind of the jump-off point. - And then that started just going into like, close like, so on. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So you make everything. - Yeah. - Dress it. - We make everything. - But we use, shop up a year later, wrote us and they go, hey, you guys are our number one searched brand that we don't carry. Full circle moment. But you know what? And did you give it to them? - Fuck yeah, fuck yeah. Did they, did they place a good order? - They placed a good, they're great partners. - They just placed a good order for me this week. - Yeah, they're great. - You have three stores. So we have New York Upper East Side Beverly Hills on Beverly Drive. We had palisades. Sadly, we're not going back there. We just opened a Nashville and then we're doing Dallas, Greenwich. - Okay, and you do, 'cause we were talking-- - Sorry, yes, we do everything. We do soothing, we do denim, we do shoes. We're launching handbags in September. We do all of that. - So you make how much a year? - What's the brand's profiting? - People told us when we started, they go, you will never make money doing this. You will never make money. It is a sinking ship. - I literally have chills. And we were like, okay, well, we're going to try. We were profitable year two. Now, hold on. I don't also, though, want people to think like it's very hard and we would not have done it without our partners. - Right, of course. - Or we were able to literally utilize that they're back office. - Yeah, a hundred percent. - They're cooperating partners. They take care of everything. - So many people that would have hit our PNL didn't because we got to use theirs. So it's very easy to become profitable when you have-- - Did you do a salary or two? - Very little. - Very little. - Okay, so you were just building this-- - It's not worth like your-- - Yes. - Nothing. The first couple of years, nothing. - Okay, and now you're taking a salary, I would imagine. - Yeah, so now we split the profit. So you're making my main source of income. - Well, if you sold your part of the business how you'd be set. - I mean, I think the company right now is valued. I would say it's probably could, we could take it to market with like a $200 million valuation. How does that make you feel? - I mean, look, it's amazing. And I know, let's pause on $200 million in the market. Like that is-- - Yeah, I mean, like if we went to market with our EBITDA and with that is, I think, the number. But, you know, you can't ever-- - Get comfortable. - I can't think like that though. Because the second that we pull, you know, the second that we get too comfortable in that, you can-- - It can be gone tomorrow, which I operate from that same lens. - Totally. - But I think in this instance, I mean, just based on listening to you talk, where you've started, how your career has gone, it's never been that sort of like straight shot ever. - Up, like I'm the same exact way. So you should definitely take a second throughout your day, every day, to be like, holy shit, I built something that could be sold for $200 million. And that is fucking-- - Yeah. - Most people don't do that. That's crazy. - Yeah, I know. And you know, it's interesting in our business, is like, we have to be careful because you don't want to grow yourself out of an acquisition. You can get too big, where then there's no buyer. - So you got to keep it. - Yeah, and it's like, look, maybe we never even sell. Maybe we just keep growing and we're profitable. So it's a great income. But I think that it's okay as a woman to say, men are not afraid to be like, yeah, I want to be acquired. I want to be acquired. And I want to fucking make $100 million. - Like 100%. - And I think that we have to be more comfortable saying that. - And there's nothing wrong with that. - No, to create a life for yourself and to have ownership over your own decisions and everything. - Yeah, I pay my own bills. - Like I pay for my children's school. I pay for everything. Tommy and I split a lot of things. There's no just like, oh, I can go get a fucking manicure for the rest of my life. That's not going to happen for me. Unless I something happens. - Can I take, I'm devastated because we have to stop. And I have to say genuinely thank you because this was so much more than I thought it was going to be. I knew it was going to be great. But I usually, and this team knows I'll end. - Really? - 30 minutes in, I'm usually like, oh, are we good? Like I just get anxious. I feel like I can't move around. And this was so amazing, so please come back. - I will. - Seriously, and I'll come on yours in a moment too. - I do want you too. - I'll be a little nervous, but yeah. - No, of course I'm sitting. (upbeat music) - The Morgan Stewart Show is produced by Sirius, XM, and me, Morgan Stewart. Our audio engineer is Brendan Burns. Our videographer is Kim Cohen. And our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. Our executive producers are Cody Fisher and Adam Sachs. (upbeat music) - Sirius, XM, podcast. (upbeat music)