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Europe in the Mud | The Beautiful Pod

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Europe in the Mud | The Beautiful Pod

The podcast celebrates the World Cup as an unpredictable, emotionally charged spectacle, highlighting shocking results and chaotic matches that defy traditional football expectations. The hosts criticize modern coaching tactics, particularly Germany’s underperformance due to reliance on Bayern and the ill-conceived "hipster 4-4-2" system led by Nagelsmann. They praise Japan and Morocco for their resilience and tactical maturity, while mocking the obsession with fashion-forward, untested strategies. The tournament’s deeper issues are also examined, including FIFA’s focus on profit over fairness, the dehumanizing treatment of teams like Iran, and the erosion of football’s cultural significance. The hosts stress that the true magic of football lies in raw, chaotic moments—like last-minute goals or emotional meltdowns—rather than tactical perfection. Amid these critiques, there’s a nostalgic reverence for the game’s spirit, especially for underdog nations and the emotional journeys of players and fans. The episode ultimately blends satire, passion, and deep reflection, advocating for authenticity, identity, and chaos as central to the World Cup experience.

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Welcome to the Beautiful Pod. It's Adam Friedland. I'm joined by CR. We go through all the games. It's been a crazy World Cup. I'm also joined by two Norwegian fellas, friends of mine, Erlind Morch, a comedian, and Mimir Kristiansen, who's a member of parliament, I guess. I didn't know he was a member of parliament until like midway through the game. I guess you like see the president at the supermarket when you live there and stuff. It's like 12 people and somehow they're amazing at sports. But yeah. Also, Chris and I just are going to break down the games from yesterday. I think yesterday was shocking. I think it's been shocking and I think America has given us the best World Cup of all time. Happy birthday, 250 years. Guys, you're welcome. I hope we're, no one's going to thank us. No one's going to thank us. But anyway, please enjoy the show. The beautiful pod is brought to you by FanDuel. 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You bid again and win. And that winning feeling, it's such a rush because, you know, everyone else wanted it too. Meanwhile, on eBay Live, you don't just watch the action, you're in it. Download the eBay app to stream and shop live eBay Live things people love. Chris Ryan in Los Angeles, Adam Friedland in New York City, Europe in the mud. How happy are we? The Axis powers dead. The United States has given the world the best World Cup of all time, and we don't even care about soccer. Once again, our president, Donald Trump, has proven him wrong. He's done a remontada every time we doubt him. Every time we doubt him, he's the Carlo Ancelotti of world leaders. How are you feeling right now? It's so good. Happy 250, brother. Honestly, honestly, if General Washington were here to see penalties, to see us put on the greatest World Cup of all time, and deliberately, honestly, I'm not going to say that I'm not going to buy into it, but it would be very easy to manipulate offsides, like replays, just to move the guy a little bit, right? And it would be very easy to have like a little remote control and whatever the stupid new ball is. Yeah. That's like a little bit like, yeah, let's just make it go up a little bit on a header. I'm not going to say that. I don't want anyone to go crazy because I don't believe in conspiracies, but okay. Yesterday was one of the best days of ball in such a long time. I'm so happy. I have a vacation from thinking about Arsenal. For one second, I thought about Arsenal the other day, and it made me so mad because Carlo played Martinelli at nine, and then I was like, I hate Arsenal. But guess what? We have been having quite the summer. It's been, I think, the World Cup sometimes. Dazzling. It sucks. It's been dazzling. Let's be honest. The World Cup, like you build it up too much in your mind, and then the games suck. Yeah, and it's also just like, I've never, I don't have like clear memories of the last time the Cup was here, and it's like to be able to watch football from 10 to 10 is nuts. Germany has not won a knockout game since Mario Goetze. Do you know that? Since the last time they won. Spain, although this might change soon, has not won a knockout game since they won the World Cup. And Italy has not won a knockout game since they won the World Cup. Isn't that shocking? They also are not in this World Cup at all. Well, so it's four more years. Okay. Yesterday's biggest winner. Let's play the clip. You want to ban our national flags, but we're going to wave you goodbye. Yes. And we'll look forward in the future to working with you as sovereign. Now, Chris, you know I'm a fence sitter. If you disobey the rules, you get out. Shut up, Europe. Okay. I'm a fence sitter, but I think, thank God our boys, the three lions are not in Europe anymore and subject to this European catastrophe. Thank God England will be the only team immune to the Europe aside that we've seen in this tournament so far. Germany are out. The Netherlands are out. Two great powers of soccer. How are you feeling about this? They both abandoned their principles. They both like, I agree. They both like abandoned their own, footballing identities and they got what they deserved. Germany needs to be boring and a machine and we hate them and the bad guys. Italy isn't even in the World Cup. They're supposed to be cheaters and defensive and rude. Anytime they've been trying to make the countries that are supposed to be the bad guys and boring, modern and interesting, it fails. Yeah. During penalties, they had Kimmich have to go up to Gretzky to beg him to take pens. Why did you play for pens if you're playing for pens? Well, let's be honest. They did win that game. Let's be honest, but fuck off Julian Nagelsmann. I think what we're seeing is the pep effect right now. We're seeing so many guys, tactical, modern coaches that think that they could do it like pep. Look at him. He's wearing fucking fear of God. He's wearing, he's wearing off white, but just have some respect. And also like, I think, I mean, I don't want to body shame, but he's put on a little weight. He has actually, I don't want to body shame either. I'm not in very good. But like, I, I, I find this outfit odd from a man who wants to dress like Russ. Yeah. He's dressed like Russ in 2013. Not even like a new Russ. He's, he's wearing harem pants and shutter shade sunglasses, like the heatles. That's also like a G-Shock watch from when is that from? That's like the biggest G-Shock watch I've ever seen. Yeah. From middle school. I mean, what does he think? Who does he think he is? He tried to do the pep thing where he's like, I'm going to fuck with the tactics so much that I'm going to go hipster four, four, two, which is it was, it was a narcissistic four, four, two, right? It wasn't a proper four, four, two. He's like, I'm going to start Lundov and Kai up front. And guess what? I'm going to be so modern that I'm going to be from the olden days. Right. And guess what? You fucking lost and you fucking failed. And guess what? Kimmich was put him in the fucking midfield. Like genuinely, like, I don't understand. There's a thing that happens in football where, where modern tactical coaches don't understand the difference. And I said, I was saying this to in the last episode between that and, and tournament football. And really in reality, what we see is like pep spent 5 billion pounds, walk the league, what? Seven times, six times, just walk the league. And then, uh, his brain exploded in every champions league. Yeah. Every champions league final, he would do this thing where he'd go into a layer and he'd be at like the map of Europe and you'd be like, this is how we just, uh, we make everyone, uh, Germany. And he's like, I'm going to be a bunker in Berlin with a gun. Okay. Um, genuinely speaking, I, it is so sad. I've turned into emperor Palpatine in this tournament. I want to see any type of modern approach punished. I was really hoping that Coleman would do the Neanderthal, uh, treble yesterday. Uh, and it almost worked. It almost, he almost pulled it off by playing a back five with one of the most talented teams in the tournament who was scoring at will in the, in the group stages. Um, wearing that shirt. What was that shirt? How tight was that shirt? I mean, I think him and Noglesman should have switched shirts. They should have switched shirts. Yeah, I know. I think it's her. Bernard has thrown everything into chaos. It's honestly just have an effortless, chill fashion like pep. And seriously, pep has ruined it. Everyone was wearing arson, banger, three piece suits. And then pep came in with just a hoodie and everyone was like, wow, he's got like an effortless style. Kind of like, like Shia LaBeouf and his vintage t-shirt chopping game. And you can't do it. You can't do it like the goat, right? I mean, honestly, um, the hipsters are in the mud. They're crying into their, look, this is the kit that everyone that was celebrating. Yes. They're crying into their Phil Foden X Noel Gallagher kits. How atrocious is that dog shit kit? How bad is that? It's terrible. This is terrible. Offensive. Is this real? Or is this just like a, like a, this is a drop that somebody did. It's the Noah. They, they did a collabo with Noel Gallagher to make a, make a special kit for, for city. And he, uh, he was on drugs or something when he made it. Apparently that's what rockers do. Listen, the lesson here is you can't play a hipster four, four, two. All right. Here's another lesson that I wanted to bounce off you. Go ahead. Do you think that Germany's failings have anything to do as I've seen kicked around online with the idea that Bayern is no longer building for them? Like that Bayern is no longer developing? - Their whole set. - It's diversity. - No, but Bayern's buying like Kane, and they've got like you know they're they're like buying from all over the world now rather than just making the national team and it used to be like Dortmund and Bayern pretty much prop that that whole national side up right that whole league is so annoying to me right the fact that like Lewandowski could be at Dortmund and then go to them it's there it's a mafia kickback scheme I know like why would why does everyone let the best team just take all their players and why is that okay why don't why do they give them like applauses and stuff like that it's one fucking team like literally like if uh in any other league if someone goes from I mean we know the names of the people that have gone from Real Madrid to Barcelona or vice versa right if somebody goes from like the Thunder to the Warriors or something like that that would be weird granted Dortmund is not anywhere near like uh the competitive parity of uh that Dortmund and Bayern are obviously but it's just everyone is sucking one team's uh I'm too graphic on this show everyone is just gobbling one team's but it's just like what is the point of the league like why are you like Wolfsburg going out there to try that year because everyone's just going to kick back their best players to the number one team and yes I do think that like uh there are like probably that is like an answer that there are probably more international players on I think there is something to that but But like German players go abroad now too. There were like Italian players used to not go abroad, if you remember. Like it used to be rare for like, you know, Decanio was like, I'm going to bring racism to West Ham. Right. Yeah, you brought it. They didn't have it. I'm going to do just the Romans. I'm going to do the thing that Elon Musk didn't do at the whatever. Okay. No, I mean, it's just like, yeah, it was more rare. Like Podolsky, I remember, was like one of the only Germans. I guess like, what's his name? Was on Chelsea. What's his name? Andrea Shurlow. Shurlow, yeah, yeah, yeah. Klinsman on Spurs. Yeah, Klinsman. It was like very rare. I think now German players are like going abroad more often. Yeah, I think the issue, once again, is Europe and the European Union. And thank God, thank God we got out of that. No, I think that there is something to that perhaps. Yeah, like a team having chemistry and all playing the same system like does naturally translate over time. To a national side. I guess English players used to not go abroad as much too. Not as much, but now it's interesting to look at that Bayern team and see Luis Diaz, Harry Kane, Alphonso Davies, like different guys like from different countries playing in that starting XI. And I wonder whether or not there's a trickle-down effect. You're saying like a more pure German. Yeah, that's not what I meant. Is that what you're saying, Chris? You want it to be like cleansed of, what were you saying? You know why? I blame. You know why I blame. Okay? I'm just kidding. The rabbis. No, I mean, there probably is something to that. Just to mention, the South Africa match was like really satisfying to me. And I'm like so proud of them as a team. My parents come from there and stuff. Because it was like a rebuilt roster. It was supposed to be like a terrible team. But they all play in the same league together, like the domestic league. I think they only had like five or six players abroad, right? So, they did speak the same kind of tactical language. Footballing language, yeah. That's how that league plays. And there is something to like that being a thing. Spain has always had that advantage too. Because they all came from Spanish academies. And they all kind of like, you know, like La Masia was obviously very dominant. So, I think there is something to be said about that. Yeah, in Belgium, they all went abroad. I mean, that's true. So, you're saying that we just like basically have to reclaim identities of European. All I'm saying is that. And I think that that German national team relied heavily on Bayern. And I don't know if they're doing player development like they used to. And also, a lot of people are like Nagelsmann doesn't look under every rock for good players. Like Nagelsmann basically goes in and watches like Dortmund and Bayern. Now, this is just what Didi Hamann said. Like, I have no idea how Nagelsmann spends his time. It's a little bit hysterical of a response. Like, they won that match basically. Also, fuck Klopp. I mean, did you see Jurgen Klopp's quote? He wants that job. No, he said, no. Well, first of all, that'd be, the boys would die for him. I lost my headphones. Yeah. First of all, yeah. Klopp says, if that's a disallowed goal, then Arsenal wouldn't be the English champions. They scored 60% of their goals like that. What does that have to do with Arsenal? We're a loser team. We're losers. We lost 8-2 at Old Trafford. They're acting like we're freaking like, we're like, I don't know, Ajax in the 70s. Like, we're. We stink. And everything. The world revolves. Okay, anyway. Back to cut that. Listen. I, no. I think they lost because, less about, like, the makeup of, like, their, I guess, their dominant club team. But, like, I think it's more so that they probably, a cagey group stage match, probably eeked it out 2-1. And they probably shouldn't have started an egotistical, like, put my nuts on the table kind of like, why am I so gross? No, you're right. They shouldn't have. They should have gone boss of the wall to start the match. It was just a narcissistic lineup. Like, bring on Undov, like, at 60. But Klopp got in Nagelsmann's head about Undov. Like, I feel like that that was a little bit, like, too much chatter coming from the back seat. Look at the outfit. Look at the, look at the stupid lineup. Everyone want to be pep. But you, they're, they're not built that way. He's trying to do effortless fashion. He's trying to do ridiculous, like, counterintuitive, I'm going to surprise them lineups. America beat this team 4-1. America, okay? Relax. You're Germany. You had the Kaiser. You know who still wears suits to the match? And who knows where to put the guys in order to get results? Who's that? The Don. The Don. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And you know who starts lineups where Casemiro looks like perhaps one of the worst players I've ever seen for the first half and then just does the remontada in the second half all over again. How many times have we watched this? And I mean, yeah, I, this is, I've become. We're talking Brazil, Japan, obviously. I want to see the hipsters hearts broken over and over again. I liked Japan, but I was happy that the people that were like, they're a tournament dark horse. Yeah. They fucking beat Spain in the last world cup. You're not like, you're not, you're not like the, uh, like, uh, let me run the, they beat Spain in the last world cup. It's not that fucking wild of a pick. We all like them. They're cool. They're, they're Japan. They do like, yeah, they're, they're, they're fashion. It's the same thing as Morocco. Morocco is actually like a really, really good world cup team at this point. They made the semi-final like, right. And people were acting like they discovered Morocco and it's just my insecurity about America being an American that likes footy, but, but I want to see everyone that thinks that they know ball just destroyed and sad. And I just want to see messy score as many goals as possible. And I want to just see, do you get a lot of texts from people who aren't watching, like never watch football. And then all of a sudden you get. You get a text that's like, wow, great cross. No, I'm having issues with a lot of the people in my life. Listen, Nagelsmann, it was a narcissistic lineup. And for some reason he didn't start like, uh, he didn't start like, like why put him at right back? Who, who is there like, um, terrifying, uh, left winger that you need Kimmich to be starting a right back? Why can't you have one of your best? Midfielders playing in midfield. It's just, it's, it's like, he thinks he's pep, right? He thinks he's like when Kinsella was, was the best player on, on their team that year. And Kinsella said, I'm the best fullback in the world. He sold him in January just to say, I'm the best coach of all time. You're nothing. You're going to go through like, there's like Calvin, there's so many guys pep bought that he was just like, and now you're exiled after buying for 80 million. It's just bragging. It's literally just bragging to show how good you are. Pep's like, I'm going to win the league with, with six, eights playing. I'm not going to have a striker. Everyone's going to be a central midfielder and it's going to be confounding and so frustrating. And you're going to leave. I'm going to say after you lose five nil that the other team were so good. They're so, so good. They were an amazing team that I'm going to be so complimentary of your, of, of your team that just lost. You must play with courage. It's going to hurt worse. Let me tell you, Nagelsmann, I want to give you a lesson. Listen, what do I know? But this is what you can't. You can't do a hipster 4-4-2. If you are employing a 4-4-2, you have to, first of all, recognize that you are not him. Okay. You used to eat worms at training and that's why you've got such a grumpy voice. I mean, can you share any light on this? Well, no, it's a fact. I did. I also, I also smoke exhaust pipes, as I've been told in the past, that that's what makes my throat like this. I have gravel for breakfast. That was another thing. So then three combined, often are the things I use to keep this voice sounding how it is. If you play a 4-4-2, you have to stand for something. Yeah. You have to shave your head and have a goatee. The short shin pads are no tackles to be fair. And even a semi-bad tackle in a game now, it's like the world's going to end. Nobody's shin pads. I mean, my phone's not small enough. My rule was, wear what you play. You have to wear shin pads. But now what they do, so to get around the world, they put a bit of like sponge in their shin, that big, literally that big. I can't forget my shin pads. I'm like, you want to? Prove a point that much, right? That you're going to put a bit of sponge in your. And they've got designing ones, you know, like I've been specially made with picture their family on I'm going suppose you could see them They're that's what I can't see the beach of their family. Oh, you know, I look at my family like what? You really need to mention that that's not a day to a white socks. Really? What's the medical reasons? I can tell all this now because when you're with the team Can you just listen or something I'd imagine I have to wear normal shop I can't possibly play today because I didn't have my holes cut in the back of my socks I mean, come on Just play Thank you, this is what it takes to start of a 442 lot You have to be a guy that like literally has a player like a like a Ben me style player Give someone a career ending like multiple fractures like compound fracture where the bone is sticking out of your leg and say like I think He was going for the ball and he wasn't wearing big enough shin pads. Yeah, and he has to be like I didn't see it I'm gonna have to watch if Sean Dyche if we replace lawless with Sean Dyche Would you just DVR every Fox studio show and watch it for the rest of your life? It would be in if it was lots on Thierry and Sean Dyche But literally what we're ignoring is that Zlatan is just as insane Loss is so abject that we're missing the fact that Zlatan is just literally just out of his mind insane he thinks that he's like Steven Seagal or something like You have okay if you play 442 you can never learn how to pronounce a single foreign players name on your roster Yeah You have to literally you have to you have to you have to wear the poppy 12 months a year and we and talk about the the boys that died in World War one in the trench How terrible of a war was that it was just awful there were one you want to do this now? No, okay, you have to be in a minimum of six relegation battles in the midway You have to be waiting you have to be in like a bottom three side fired from that bottom three side immediately picked up by another You have to be in like a bottom three side fired from that bottom three side immediately picked up by another another Yes, three side. You have to manage wolves and and Southampton in the same year and Burnley and Burnley Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you never leave your house like you're always in like the somewhere in the middle of the country Traveling to those. Yeah, you have to replace Nuno Espirito Santo as a manager Yeah, you have to yeah, you have to be sacked so many times just sacked right like you have to like Yeah, you have to be sacked so many times just sacked right like you have to like Uh, you have to you have to hit this penalty play it play it you have to be able Uh, you have to you have to you have to hit this penalty play it play it you have to be able Uh, you have to you have to you have to you have to hit this penalty play it play it you have to be able Uh, you have to you have to you have to hit this penalty play it you have to be able to win for something nagelsmann to win for something nagelsmann to win for something nagelsmann it's not fifa okay it's not fifa you it's not fifa okay it's not fifa you it's not fifa okay it's not fifa you have to eat like uh for breakfast eat a have to eat like uh for breakfast eat a have to eat like uh for breakfast eat a eat a curry for breakfast and minimum eat a curry for breakfast and minimum eat a curry for breakfast and minimum four none you have to claim that something you said you have to claim that something you said you have to claim that something you said on talk sport you didn't realize was uh on talk sport you didn't realize was uh on talk sport you didn't realize was uh had a history behind it and was hurtful to a group of people. Yeah, you didn't even realize it was being broadcast. This has to be your birds. Is that actually Dyche's old lady, or is this just like an amalgamation? No, I think that's Dwight York's old lady. Dwight York's lady. Okay. Who's apparently quite around Manchester, the ladies' man. Okay, you have to go on this vacation. Okay? This is the vacation you have to go on. You have to go on thomascook.com and order this vacation package. Look at how insane it. I don't understand how they can. What food are they serving them? Can you put it on screen? This blows my mind. Okay, 2E. They used to sponsor Spurs. Amazing. Okay. 10-minute walk to the beach. Okay. 294-pound total. Total. Okay? To Greece. Okay? Including meals and flight. What meals are they giving you on this vacation? What are you eating? Yeah. They hand you unoptimized. You get the octopus when you get off the plane and they're like, "This is it. This is three squares." You get to go. They have a water park. There is not a single Greek person there. And a lazy river is just filled with piss. Just filled with. So your larger point is that if Nagelsmann wanted to play 4-4-2, he needed to have gone through this initiation process. He needed a hazing. A hundred thousand percent. He needed to go to Sean Dyche U. Yeah, you have to have violent criminals on your team. Yeah. You have to have violent criminals on your team. You have to have, like, just with the spikes, two-footed. Like, there has to be a bone coming out of, like, another player's leg, and you have to claim that he was going for the ball. Adam, I got to tell you, man, a reality TV show where Continental managers go to Sean Dyche finishing camp, where they show up wearing Uniqlo and they leave wearing, like, just Sergio Ticini tracksuits, they would never be able to find a single person to be in it because the game's gone. The game's gone. It's just him and Carlo left. That's it. And Carlo's Kiro's still, okay. It's pathetic. They lost to a team that lost to America 4-1. They should be ashamed of themselves. They actually did win that game. And it is, they, Freddy, fuck off forever. Nagelsmann, fuck off. And Freddy, fuck off. Enjoy traveling back to your country, which isn't 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Okay. Paraguay's a gaffer, though. He's got bars. You see, like, he was just, like, we come from the red dirt. What's that? Yeah, he was, like, we played on the red dirt. They play in, like, Tony academies. Like, he was really, he made it about something. I love that. They used to say that about Luis Diaz, about how he played on a dust pitch. Yeah, I love that. He came from dust. He's like Adam. He came from the he's like Ganja. He came from there. Okay, wait. All right, let's get to Brazil, Japan. Again, I'm rooting against teams I want to have win, right? I like Japan better, but I want people, like, to learn that tournament football is a brutality, especially in the knockouts. And no one is better suited for it than Don Carlo, who literally looks like he didn't give a team talk. He literally looks like he does. He looks like he doesn't react to a single. You cannot react to a goal if you want to go 4-4-2. You cannot celebrate a goal at all. And also, just the fact that all he does is put guys in the right position. It is his brilliance is he's like, "Jude plays here. Martinelli plays here. Pirlo plays there." Like, that's what he does. It's the aura. I mean, yeah, he did it. Like, he moved Kaká. I mean, Martinelli playing nine reminded me of how much I fucking hate Arsenal. I hate Arsenal. The best part about the Martinelli goal was the dudes around him being like, "That's going in." Like, Rand, like, was just like, as soon as he passed to Bruno, he was like, "It's in." He was like, turned his back on it, like Steph. He had 15 and 5 at 19 years old. Yeah. Let's just play my favorite Martinelli clip. Gabriel Martinelli. Rah-zat-fis-tura-Gabriel. Ah, yeah, Gabriel. Gabriel Martinelli. Oh, Martinelli. OK, listen, he's-- I'm so happy for Gabi. He's been a lawyer. He's been a loyal-- I've watched him for the last five years. The debate was Saka or Gabi. Now Saka's dead. Can we stop playing him? I just-- the whole world's watching. They're going to think he's bad. No, he's like-- he's being so selfless for England. It's like breaking my heart. It's also like he's up against your boy for the right wing spot. So it's like Noni is pushing him. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. This was one of the coolest things in the Brazil game was earlier in the match, Cunha had kind of done, like, settle down too small to-- I don't know if you know the Japanese players and done five championships to him. But then after the match, he did this. That's sportsmanship, dawg. I think it's the second time for that last game yesterday. I've seen balls scored in the last minute. That's a plant, man. That's not real. It's like when Trump won, that one lady. They've given so much to this tournament. The fans, the players, they've given everything today. They said it again three in a row. Oh, my god, it's Seppuku. No, poor guy. The Japanese will be back. They're an incredible team. Beautiful ball. They were better in that game. Once again, we learned our lesson. Never count out Carlo. Genuinely speaking, like, Gabby Martinelli in that goal, like, he genuinely, like, took his moment brilliantly. I love him as a player. And also, both of our Gabbys, we had a Gabby assist and a Gabby. That was a beautiful cross. There's got to be, like, a hard cap on how many times you can talk about Arsenal in one podcast episode. OK, cut all the Arsenal. OK, then this episode is, like, two minutes long. No, genuinely, I actually cut the Arsenal. I mean it. No, that was too many. It was a good note. Guys, let's go to Morocco, Netherlands. Ronald Koeman, I think out of all of the Neanderthals, the dumbest one. Yes. Isn't it weird they used to have a village idiot? They were like, this is our idiot. Does that mean, like, the whole community was like, yeah, that's our boy, the fucking idiot, dude? Yeah, that's Steve, the idiot. He's the-- I mean, literally, this was not a back five of hipsterdom. See, this is a clear distinction we have to draw. Koeman did it-- it was the product of an imbecile, right? And once again, like you were saying before, the teams need to reclaim their identities. They have to be doing Cruyff turns. They can't be a back five Netherlands. I'm sorry. This is my favorite thing about the Cup, especially when you get to the knockouts and the teams are like, like we actually are like we maybe have a little bit of a chance here is that when they lose the fucking national teams detonate like they don't they're not like oh we left it all in the field that was really heartfelt they're like fuck my coach fuck these fans fuck my teammates like they all go nuts and Kimmich was just basically like I play with a bunch of betas and then for the Netherlands it was like De Jong and everybody after the game was like our coach sucked that was a bad idea dude we said it before the tournament we all knew it when Veg Horse came on though I'm like this is going to be a moron like treble I think we're gonna just sweep yesterday I was like I I was like they're about to do it again because they have that psychopath like six foot what is he six six or something yeah he's a he's a psycho and the way he looks is insane you can see his skull you know when you see a person you're like that's you know what his skull looks like Veg Horse is one of those people who's like I don't know what to do with him I don't know what to do with him those kind of guys when he put Koop Miners in this and subbed him in at left center back and he's a 10 I'm pretty sure he didn't know the positions that the players play I'm pretty sure that he literally forgot like mid-tournament it's it's uh listen Frankie's amazing dude fucking what's his name West Ham uh uh Somerville Crescencio Somerville ran literally 120 minutes and was just like uh Cody Brint Yakpo tried like like to everything he could he scored I'm coming off the back of personal tragedy it was like they they they had it was sad it was like they were so set up for like a storybook win there and he just he just really screwed them up Coleman's really screwed him up he stinks the Mexican fans were booing the Netherlands because they lost to them in the round of 16 like what 12 years ago no that was recently 12 years ago oh 12 it was 14. what the hell what like just relax guys like uh like please can L tree to make the the second round of the knockouts please can L tree just like just come on you're gonna by the time this episode goes up they are going to be strolling okay yeah they will okay uh speaking of uh meltdowns uh national team meltdowns uh the response of South Korean news Korean news to their uh team's response was uh in insanity yes they blew those are like she's like literally first of all I thought it was a different kind of East Asian Cinema at first and I wish because you know they blur out that yeah and I finished what about the airport and I did finish foreign foreign foreign foreign all right uh listen it's a little bit like carried away this man they're blurring out his face like he's like an ice agent or something like people know what he looks like I just think like uh yeah um I mean it's a national tragedy for these people people are acting just like a little bit yeah look at this you just see that foreign foreign foreign that's a long flight to get off of and have that be what's greeting you can you imagine if you got off an international flight I can't imagine fly back to Philadelphia and feeling like this 19 hours and then you return and you're like drowsy you're coming off and then literally just like they're ready to just kill you they're ready okay anyway uh Sam wanted us to mention our boy John Joe Shelby he's coming back third division UA third division UAE I was pretty into this story but I have no idea what it has to do with the World Cup I have no idea why you I I said cut this four times he kept putting back in okay there was a crow a little bit more for the news roundup Croatian man uh who went to the club this is another great American culture immersion clip that I enjoyed all right we can hear it that's also great I don't know uh the coolest thing that I saw was uh there's a a clip of Maradona in 2018 when he talked about the U.S uh the North American countries of winning the bid and uh he predicted basically that this fourth quarter like format would like be a thing from last night the goat the absolute goat um finally uh Chris I guess we'll do this section that you wanted to do you wanted to do the sexy ladies of the World Cup section I guess so you're just for the sake of journalism yeah thanks for me you're sending me these picks of all the sexy Adam thanks yeah yeah so yeah I so I had Sam find sexy ladies of the World Cup all right you want to keep this is a little come on come on we're gonna get in trouble for this no no no no no no no you gotta play the clip at the end because that's the right now I'm seeing a woman with one breath yeah yeah that's another lady Chris why do you want this on the show Chris why do you want this on the show oh it's Africa whoever's directing these love to like uh you know like cut away to a sexy lady on in during the broadcast which to me is like a little bit like I'm trying to watch the game I can't be getting horny while the game's on like and just like let me focus on the game uh but like of course it pales in comparison the same guy I think be in sports that did the Martinelli thing uh the horny Brock the horny Brock the same guy that does the um Virgil van Maguire that guy um in the last World Cup I believe in Qatar uh he the best cutaway this is the goat cutaway to uh to sexy lady cutaway we said you are see ya Muazzara the Muntikhabis russi foreign on a more serious note let's let's get into Iran um this weekend uh I found myself watching the most dog match I've ever watched in my entire life which was uh which was Austria versus uh Algeria um of course that was the match that determined uh the final slot in the third place of the third place finishers throughout this tournament like I mean we talked about Iran but like throughout this tournament I think one thing that has become apparent and let's actually hear from Terebi but we we complain about the outside the football because which is the details important in the football as you know recovery is important things and a small details affect the football and yeah we just uh we have hope we have Google energy in the dressing room as I said I'm looking forward to the future of the world and let's see what will happen tomorrow for the games um there isn't sorry there is a no word to about the games because we did our best during 90 minutes by this situation we had since the beginning till now we are proud of ourselves and if anything happened it's by my responsibility because I lose the penalty and if we pass the group stage yeah thank God thank God as you see we play so good I think 90 minutes before I I think that the Iranian the Iranian team it obviously showed a lot of class it was like a very difficult situation they were walking into which was uh they're walking into a tournament where they were playing in a country that they were at war with um and I think it showed incredible bravery in class like they were doing a bit for like the folks back home to have some hope you know and like uh uh there's been uh there was a relentless bombing uh the the uh piece was negotiated I guess with Trump where he uh uh but in the tournament it seems to me uh people have taken issue with the offside and the VAR decision and I don't think that that is the right point at the end of the round game of course um he was offsides and also on the pitch it was declared offside so it wouldn't have been clear and obvious error even if you know like it that was that's not the right argument to make um I don't know I don't think it's um I think what what's more apparent is that um infantino kind of uh like uh you know bent the knee to all of the demands of the Trump administration and uh to the extent that he went into the Iranian locker room and apologized the players well I would just say this is a black eye on the tournament on the tournament like in the yeah for as much as it's been like a blast to watch this like the treatment of the Iranian team has been like deplorable uh uh the fact that Trump up until right before the start of the tournament was like threatening to remove them and replace them with Italy like by Fiat I guess and I'm sure infantino would have gone with it to be completely honest and you look at like for instance algeria and the way that they were welcomed into like lawrence kansas and it became like this huge community like this community in kansas embracing this team iran never had that chance they never got that opportunity they were getting flown out at 10 p.m back to mexico they are very thankful for the mexican fans but like these guys had no shot and the fact that they got as far as they did was amazing yeah they had every disadvantage thrown their way like their support staff were not allowed entry into the country uh they had to be evacuated to tj basically after can you imagine how much more you'd hate america like it's staying in tijuana just like seeing like you see guys that were like they were like uh just clearly on molly just like trying to find their friend who like got spooked during a like a donkey show or something can you imagine like how is the worst example of american behavior like guys named like tyler and kai yeah just like the thing is this the failure was a failure in the format there are clips of austria after the third algerian goal um like going like what are you doing yeah i thought we agreed yeah but although there's no translation as to what they were saying to each other so i don't like we can't really be yeah they're like this but like yeah whether or not there's an actual collusion or not it was uh it was the most bizarre unwatchable match i've seen ever probably uh it was like 60 minutes of literally walking and then someone would get a annoyed by it and then score and then the other team would go like balls to the wall trying to try to equalize um it was just in in terms of making an entertainment product it was like an insult to the fans but beyond that like uh the thing that's really heartbreaking at the end of the day is that after uh who's it mares mares uh scored like uh scored an extra time for two minutes those players who have had such a shit experience like uh attending this one-on-one world cup had like hope and uh thought that their nation had hope and that was whether it doesn't matter if it's a collusion the thought of them and their hopes being crushed or dashed like that is uh is really sad um this is something fifa had done away with there's i mean i don't know whether it gives you gives people any comfort to know that it it's not particularly corrupt it's just typically corrupt you know it's like this is kind of it's been corrupt the echoes across the world cup history and it's kind of the fabric of the tournament it's what makes it such an maybe an interesting sporting event to study historically is to look at stuff like this but like in 82 in this in spain um ironically enough austria and west germany were playing in algeria going into the austria west germany match because usually all these final matches of the group should start at the same time so that there is no chance of people being like oh it's like this so we're going to do that algeria was in second place going into the last match between they had completed their final group stage match they were in second place but they only had a zero goal difference west germany had a plus two and west germany and austria play what is now known as the district disgrace of guijon where germany scores early and then the two sides basically like have a sunday kickabout for 80 minutes they play catch yeah and it's you can still see footage of it on youtube it is grotesque 80 82 year old plumbers would play more vertical football than these guys and then you know like they had to basically change the rules i think until now when they've introduced this third place qualifier thing where now it's there's it's all back into into this jackpot yeah the point is is that they wanted more games and they wanted to make more money right and uh that's what we're seeing like the the stated purpose of fifa is to uh for football development around the world but like what this what this organization really is is uh hey we're gonna get the best guys right at at sports and we're gonna make a tournament and the whole world is gonna watch it we're gonna get insane ratings and oh how much how much is it gonna cost you know to get the best guys and it's free basically it is basically um they are it's such a good fucking uh racket you know basically what they're doing is they're making the most popular thing and they're doing it uh basically at the just like it's it's brilliant in fact if you think of it in those terms there was no attention paid to uh whether or not this was actually going to work and no one asked the question of like oh are the games gonna suck if like uh they know what how many goals they need to uh qualify for third or how many goals like both teams need to get through the knockout stages i think there are other games in this tournament where people equally said that there was some funkiness but i don't like not to get into it but like no but i think it's a good thing no but your point is really well taken because you could make the argument i bet you could look at this tournament as the ultra television product they're doing these hydration breaks that they're slamming in commercials for and the third place safety net that they established is probably there so that they can get as many messy mbappe holland like global superstar matches they didn't want these big stars to fall out after the groups but they didn't actually need that what they've created is like what is the best thing about tournament sports which is cinderella and they kind of they they really they've really fumbled it in this way well just or like um what the corruption we used to see i mean when it comes to the the tournament as a television project that our product uh with the way that things are distributed these days uh it wasn't like always that it was usually like the host nation's dictator would be like uh tell the other team we're going to kill them i mean literally like in 78 there was a military junta the year before in the year before in the year before it was like a military junta the year before they were like we're going to kill them we're going to kill them we're going to kill them we're going to kill them and uh videla what he did was like um him and kissinger basically made a a match fixed a a a game that a lot of this wasn't on television a lot of it was about like uh state like uh propaganda um but him and kissinger like entered the peruvian locker room and gave a speech about the topic of uh latin american uh brotherhood but basically they they needed to win by four goals uh peru lost argentina made the final uh and there's an understanding i don't think it's true but there was like maybe someone read it and said i'm going to believe it's true that uh at that general leesimo videla watched the final with mr joseph mengela who i don't know who he is but i'm gonna i'm gonna have to look into that the angel he was no angel can we be honest and also you know that kreuf kreuf didn't go because his family was being threatened the great story is is one of the time greatest like legends of football the the truth of this i mean like it's always been like dirty but like now that it's an entertainment product and now that the global audience is like billions right they're maximizing the amount of money that they that they're getting for it and they're not thinking about like the meaning of this to the people involved i mean and the meaning of this to the supporters like it means the reason people are doing this for like i'm like think of that the amount of money that pep has had to spend to build a really good team right right the reason they're doing this like they're not getting paid how much sam can you actually look up how much players are getting paid for playing in the world cup it's about 75 000 pounds a match maybe look it up i want to see if you're right well wait how that was amazing give it up for the boy i mean like like uh uh the amount that clubs have to spend on recruiting talent uh they they can do this because it means something to them to like score for their country to play for their country yeah so it's it's about 75 000 pounds all included per match for everybody for the entire team that fifa pays the national teams wait so that what's the what it's about 2500 a player and if you see scott gabrielle martinelli got paid 2 500 pounds 2500 i mean seriously like it's it's the reason they're doing this because like they i mean these guys are on like a like 500 000 a week how much is holland on i mean it's reported at 500k but yeah we know how that works yeah yeah so he's on a million uh pounds a week like you know he's doing this because it's meaningful to people and it's meaningful to countries and and uh what we saw was a country that like uh you know they i mean they did double the they did don't i mean trump just obama got one gave 150 to trump did 300. what a loser i'm that cut that he's a friend of the show uh no i mean like seriously they're giving it to a country where like uh they're they they dash the hopes of a country where uh their players were bravely going to uh another place that had bombed a school of girls and killed them like uh it's the us and and ussr like uh didn't attend one another's olympics during a cold war like that maggie thatcher was considering during the falklands not going to the 82. yeah you know which was like obviously you know it's that's probably that was a that was a big deal also i mean that's just for the for these are argentines to to think that they could invade or our beautiful rock we're doing it for out for king and country queen country uh but guess what i literally found myself dog shit match of all time because it had like implications i switched to messy when they subbed him on it just got so weird there at the end for algeria i was i was refreshing fat mob to see when messy came on and then he gave us a goal and now that's the only thing that's making me feel love is messy peace is messy and it's just like i want to see every single uh give me give me the five reasons you're still you're still hype give me give me because you got messy messy messy messy messy you got yeah carlo i yeah i want to see carlo win football i want to see messy i just want to see i want to see this continue i don't want to lose it um honestly i renaldo i want them to win and i want to continue to see him uh i got some great renaldo stats if you want to read them if i can read them to you right now i know we're doing like okay he's the first footballer in world cup history to go seven matches without a successful dribble not a successful dribble you "he is he's played the most minutes for any outfield player he has less touches than the opposition goalkeeper through 10 straight matches uh he's never scored in the world cup knockouts uh you know i don't know listen i i don't i don't even mean it uh feel that way i kind of want him out because he ruined having a messy renaldo quarterfinal because they finished second i think what i really want to see is like i really want to see yeah yesterday just was insane right like the world cup can be really you could have huge expectations and it could be a real letdown like last final was the best final ever because uh it was the only one where it was like a bunch of goals right usually it's mario goats in extra time usually it's like watching paint dry and like uh i want to like it was wild like can you think of speaking of tournament football can you think of the last good champions league final like i can't i mean we were talking about this the other day bar some man manchester united yeah well that was just because i'm mad mad mad mad yeah i mean like genuinely like uh this is not expected like seeing an insane paraguay like a penalty shootout where everyone was missing where they like it was like a match point at like uh uh basically it was like tennis they had two match points in a row they fucked it and then somehow they still lost they still won and then seeing nagelsmann like go home sad and seeing freddie uh sent to uh cia black site in uh in in syria uh you know that that's i mean it's just it's been a lot of fun let me ask you something though yeah so you're just talking about how we don't get ronaldo messi in the what i think we have quarters if yeah and that netherlands out germany out we get robbed of germany france so this is getting a little like a one of those tournament ncaa tournaments where like george mason's in the final four and there's a potential that right now we're really excited about like things being fucked with and then france just walks it yes that's either france walks it or we have just like a goofballs like final eight or final four and i'm i'm here for it i want to see the chaos but sometimes you do just want to see germany play france or you do just want to see messy ronaldo one more time i am still in first of all like i'm not i'll say it people really are fucking with the world cup right now in america and it's not the u.s national team i mean i am seeing enthusiasm for ball maybe i live in brooklyn i don't know i think it's around it's it's it's all over i live in a liberal bubble okay maybe i'm at the i'm at the park slope co-op food co-op and everyone is talking about uh the the congo statue guy being deported uh but no uh no but seriously like it there's still a lot there there's i i we're gonna probably get mexico england at the azteca the ghosts of the hand of god and we could still get brazil argentina i mean there's so much ahead and then we are also seeing the greatest player of all time like uh at 39 years old uh bossing he's just bossing and it's so beautiful to see because it was like it was like a hello old friend i thought you played the mls how are you this how are you doing this right it's i mean it's it is a it's special and like beyond that it's it is like the tournament football is about moments and players and stars it's not about tactics it's it's about someone just busting out of like a fucking dog fight or like a just a slug fest which is like two two teams are like punching each other in the face and then like one player has a dazzling moment and and that doesn't even have to be that dazzling it could be like what holland did where he just like shanks it into the back of the net and it doesn't even believe that it's there but that's he was just like the man in the right place at the right time but also on neanderthal watch i wanted them to be rewarded for starting sore sore loth on right wing i wanted just how more it is just how the hell who came up they literally have oscar bob and they literally i do sometimes want to just see uh dumb things being rewarded the chaos of it how unfair it is sometimes like that is like what's special about the world cup and guess what america is is it's the best one we're the best country we did the best world cup we have the best we have the best best team uh best best sandwiches by far do you want to do happy trails you want to wrap it up there let's do happy trails all right i'm gonna i'm gonna throw the teams that we have just waved as we exit the groups and into the knockouts and you just tell me how you're feeling happy trails south africa listen we're so proud of you guys like that you guys are it was such a young team they i honestly like i for your biography man shut what do you mean my biography it's not arsenal that's japan guy the koena that guy what's his name if i mispronounce i cut it please please please please please please if i nailed it chris no mobokazi mobokazi fuck mobokazi the chicago fire guy he's gonna get a fucking move he's a brick shithouse he kicked the ball so hard against chequia and i'm gonna give you one word answers the rest of the teams yeah he kicked the ball so hard that he busted the ball open against chequia that's randy johnson okay continue japan you got carload fuck off guitar greedy shouldn't have and japan also we haven't forgotten who who's okay uh qatar you they shouldn't have two teams it's bullshit okay what damn psg and then they have some bad team like it's what but you don't get to enjoy psg haiti haiti thank god they're going back to france i mean oh geez turkey turkey you want to say anything about turkey yeah i think you should they got matt because my boys they got three on matt turner let's let's watch right there right there right there you know three on american legendary goalkeeper matt turner unreal uh thanks for coming turkey of the great wall of denver what it was the the new jersey saudi chequia panama new zealand and jordan do them one at a time saudi don't care chequia don't care panama could not care less new zealand don't care absolutely don't care jordan were they nice they have a gd nice index gross gross domestic niceness grow up uh and jordan's last 23 don't care okay uh usbekistan borat uh who else we got iraq it's so funny i keep saying just to say borat it's not the right guy yo by the way one of the guys that you speak of the i i don't want to do ronaldo propaganda literally one of the guys was a plumber that he scored those two goals it's true literally a plumber okay uh iraq yeah iraq sorry sorry about all that but fuck off i mean that was that was we fucked up that one curacao curacao what the i don't even know what the fuck curacao is scotland we will be seeing you for three more games at world cup 2066 israel i can't wait to see you again you think that's how long it's gonna take it's gonna be another 40 years okay 40 years and we'll then we'll get him for another three games steve clark uh i'm sorry i'm i'm gonna miss you and then finally one last team chris tunisia okay big news we've been following the her bernard story since it's uh since this inception is the hottest story of the world we've been chronicling this there is a potential that he will stay but he has a list of demands okay they are a higher salary for him and his coaching staff reasonable full control over the national team for six months yeah six months of stability without pressure or criticism to implement his project basically he's we actually inserted this last one into your spotify contract where you we give you no pressure no criticism it's time to implement your your program i am fucking shvitzing right now in this room okay her bernard has said to tunisia i will stay i will stay but you have to for six months let me do what i want to this team uh last team uh uruguay i'll let you take this away bielsa because you're sweating too much bielsa just lost his mind and this was yes basically in 2024 suarez louis suarez said this was gonna happen he was like marcelo bielsa never says good morning to anyone and they should have taken that as a sign he was like the best paid coach in the region he comes in he basically tells all the guys their shit that they abandoned him that they're cowards and they play his old valverde he's a coward yeah who the hell he's like a fucking old man that sits on a yeti cooler his keeper asked to come out of a world cup match at halftime that's how much they hate him they're like literally like they they need to they need to like uh they can't they can't just keep bringing this guy back to be to be mean to people at different teams like uh just it would be funny if he pulled the the what do you call it move what's the goddamn united uh brian it would be funny if he pulled the cloth move where he was out of subs and then he subs a guy i'd rather have no one replace you uh guys they haven't won a world cup game without louis suarez since the year 1990 which is a meaningless meaningless stat that you put on here yeah it's good though i like it turn to me you want to see how wet i am we got to get you out of here we got to drive you a lot oh my god look at four long all right that's the episode guys i hope you enjoyed it the world cup's fucking great chris i'll see you next tuesday we will be back uh on thursday or friday have a great fourth of july america is going to win the world cup i i guys this is what what an honor and a privilege soccer has landed in the united states and we will be i think we might win like four of these in a row guys enjoy your time bye freddie birthday america 250 years of just great great stuff great decisions great you have anything to say about the birth of america these things keep falling out of my guys i'm all out of sorts we're good the beautiful bot is brought to you by fan duel on the biggest stage in the world fan duel is changing the game because sometimes 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yeah my name is erlin march it doesn't make sense in english so i might as well not erlin's kind of the nathan fielder of uh norway would that be fair to say that's 100 percent accurate yes so you torture armenians in norway that's yeah well yeah yeah okay and and uh and uh counselor sir your honor would you like to introduce yourself yeah i'm uh my name is mimo christensen i make a world cup podcast with erlin but usually i'm a member of parliament in norway for the left wing party yeah my name by the way my name means foreigner so oh okay dark foreigner i see you're enjoying a diet dr pepper as well uh do you want to give us a review of uh one of one of the finest drinks here in america i was uh uh pleasantly surprised i expected it to to be a bad experience but i i'm okay with it my opinion on dr pepper is that when i'm hungover i always have this extreme need to drink dr pepper okay but after the first sip i understand why i don't enjoy it when i'm not hungover yeah okay also we've been following this podcast for the world cup i was very happy to see that you also make a world cup podcast so we are very happy to see that you also make a world cup podcast so we are very happy to see that you also make a world cup podcast so we are very happy to see that you also make a world cup podcast so we are very happy to see that you also make a world cup podcast so we are very happy to see that you also make a world cup podcast so we are also kind of colleagues adam are also kind of colleagues adam are also kind of colleagues adam yesterday uh we went to new york new yesterday uh we went to new york new yesterday uh we went to new york new jersey stadium uh which i i i regret to jersey stadium uh which i i i regret to jersey stadium uh which i i i regret to inform you has a corporate sponsor that inform you has a corporate sponsor that inform you has a corporate sponsor that gianni infantino which i don't know if gianni infantino which i don't know if gianni infantino which i don't know if you guys know this is uh is in it the you guys know this is uh is in it the you guys know this is uh is in it the english translation is uh johnny baby did english translation is uh johnny baby did english translation is uh johnny baby did you know that yeah uh he uh he's you know that yeah uh he uh he's you know that yeah uh he uh he's removed all the corporate sponsorships removed all the corporate sponsorships removed all the corporate sponsorships because he is of course also a member of because he is of course also a member of because he is of course also a member of the norwegian socialist party let's the norwegian socialist party let's the norwegian socialist party let's just go do a do a scene report let's do just go do a do a scene report let's do just go do a do a scene report let's do a report we we started off we drove in a report we we started off we drove in a report we we started off we drove in to giant stadium as it used to be called to giant stadium as it used to be called to giant stadium as it used to be called immediately uh you guys uh i i tried to immediately uh you guys uh i i tried to immediately uh you guys uh i i tried to make you break the rules and cut the make you break the rules and cut the make you break the rules and cut the line line line if you recall if you recall if you recall yeah and i was especially me but also yeah and i was especially me but also yeah and i was especially me but also and i was very concerned about you and i was very concerned about you and i was very concerned about you breaking the rules because in norway breaking the rules because in norway breaking the rules because in norway uh these are the type of things people uh these are the type of things people uh these are the type of things people can remember for years yeah i saw this can remember for years yeah i saw this one politician at a game once 15 years ago and he broke the rules yeah it's the kind of thing people will say behind your back that they saw this guy he actually he's a guy that cuts in line well there were a lot of words you guys were saying during the match which i didn't think were i'm not i wouldn't even repeat them but uh they were quite rude uh anyway uh yeah i did take a picture of you and i have it as compromise uh in the event of you ever try to destroy me no you guys both had press passes and there was a huge queue before the norwegian fan fest and i was like guys like you can cut the line and you were like oh no this is this is not a social welfare of us uh what can let's get into the match i i was in the fan section adam how how did you fight because you were with us in the norwegian uh pre-party with all the fans and you did you did at times look kind of a fish out of water or you how did you experience it did you like it it's it's very blonde yeah yeah yeah very with it you you boys are big you got some big boys over there yeah it's i think it's the tallest population next to the netherlands yeah oh okay congratulations difficult question for norwegian journalists to ask to foreign people what do you think about norwegian girls uh i i thought uh i thought i was i was focused on on the the guys pretty much i don't know what was the what's the song the goal song that you guys were playing i i fucking loved it it's like punk yeah yeah it means where the farmers from the north but nice more like a hill but it means hillbilly where the hillbilly is from the north who who does that song that's like uh you're so there's a norwegian band called dumb dumb boys but they have made they call themselves a racer for the world cup songs the dumb dumb boys the dumb dumb boys and so this is proud norwegian music heritage and that exact song is i think it's also connected to uh the danish people calling the norwegian national team mountain monkeys yeah which is a derogative term obviously yeah and then you have this response where the yeah yeah farmers it's a good song yeah you got so it's like a diss track they insulted you and you're like yes that's right we are disgusting yeah yeah okay cool um wait so uh let's get to the match it was three two i admittedly left uh i had to catch a train back to new york city uh right before the the second senegal goal uh like uh for me personally i'm bringing in a little bit of club bias here i uh holland is i objectively he's the best box presence like uh striker i've ever seen he's comprehensive but to me it's annoying that we have to play i'm an arsel supporter playing the same league as him but the volley the second goal i i remember just it was so good was the volley the first goal or the second goal sam second let's run again the second goal uh the feed from martin odegaard uh the captain of arsenal um like how many people are there in norway are there's like 45 people like you the president gave you these these tickets was that is that how we got in no uh no we're both members of the royal family oh you are well there's there was a scandal the only family yeah actually there was a recently a scandal from what i understand with the in the royal family yeah there have been several scandals but uh norway number one country in the epstein files okay so we are we are extremely present in the epstein files which is our our claim to fame so it's it's kind of nice for us to to tell the world a different story instead of only being the epstein files who are also vikings who yeah we went to we were probably right people we're also that but yeah do you think what your friend said to me do you think the whole viking aesthetic is corny or do you think it's like a cool we have decided to lean into it we're leaning in yeah we love it yeah but there there has been a debate in norway but uh yeah i've been a big part of the debate i would say yeah yeah because uh some left-wing academics in norway would think that it's a right-wing kind of thing to love viking aesthetics rooms all that stuff what's your take my take is that you can't leave the vikings to the nazis you have to reclaim the viking heritage we have to reclaim it yeah yeah and and the viking heritage is our real history it's not something we construct it is uh a part of yeah yeah real origin history so we have to yeah thank you yeah and also i'm named after a norse god so i have to i mean i have to have that opinion um yeah i i guess like uh what did you make of the match so what's it like it's been how many years 24 years since uh you guys were in the world 28 years yeah uh i mean is it scenes like do you guys like when the when when the anthem played did you guys feel an emotion there like uh yes definitely and definitely before the iraq game which uh so that was the first game in 28 years i have never seen norway in any tournament uh at all not the euros and not the world cup you haven't been to the euros either in since 2000. so the world cup for me has always been something where i i have to pick another nation to root for so it's been spain or england or whatever uh so it's it kind it's kind of strange to have my own country presence but it feels uh it feels right when the team is this good so and norwegian people have a different sort of emotional spectrum than senegalese people so when we're very moved we stand completely still yeah nothing to each other yeah yeah yeah yeah that's very moving for us that's our drum that's our drum it's just uh staring into the distance there it's a country of eight million people is that correct five five million and so what percentage do you think of of the entire nation was is in the states right now i think we tried to crunch the numbers uh and we ended up at about one percent but mimi here he's actually a dual citizen so he's he's also icelandic so i think in iceland had 10 percent of their population present in the 2060s 16 euros or that's right yeah thirty thousand people third and that's that's thirty thousand people is ten percent of the there's three hundred plus people so we don't we we don't uh that's not like that's not the fact we brag about because we don't want the icelandic people to to start writing to start writing what what do you guys what's it like having the best striker in the world who of course is a was born in england and you guys uh settler colonial him into norway right uh what's it yeah i mean but i feel like in a country so small like you you have a cousin that's friends with holland or something like yeah uh it's uh of course statistically incredible but to me it's kind of two-sided because on the one i guess it's it's amazing to have the best striker in the world but i'm just personally i'm wired in the way that i just keep thinking about the fact that this will never happen again so it's i also i'm sad and emotionally uh yeah i'm also disappointed by the fact that this will not last forever it's very zen but yeah it's very uh yeah the zen of norwegian soccer support why do i talk can you cut me saying that please jesus christ the zen what i don't even know what zen is erland you made a a series about holland an animated series yeah we made an animated series uh which i guess resembles south park or something and holland plays this you know the giants from game of thrones yeah yeah like he's a huge bodyguard but he doesn't talk he only makes noises like an animal yeah yeah holder like yeah like holder uh so i want to find out during this world cup if he has seen the show yeah do you think he would take issue with your portrayal of him no i think you liked it when we made a bring fool no when we when we made the show it was a giant lumbering fool no when we when we made it i was kind of like okay maybe if he will be offended if he sees it but later i've seen his videos in manchester city and in interviews he seems like just a really likable and uh um fun guy i think he would actually find it uh to be pretty funny and we were both uh yesterday uh very noticed that holland was uh smiling during the national anthem before the kickoff he was already happy before the kickoff yeah it was a lot of fun yeah it was a lot of fun kickoff he was already happy before playing the game yeah and there was also a press interview after the game where he was asked what do you think about meeting france and he said i don't know they're probably gonna win and then they're gonna win the world cup yeah yeah i i i was about to bring that up yeah it's awesome to hear a guy like a like a the best striker in the world not be like it's going to be a tough fixture just do some media trained answer he's like we have to play france yes that's what i mean so he's now he's he's uh uh yeah authentic and real and fun in interviews and uh so we have the best striker in the world but he also turns out to be kind of a a figure you want to watch videos of also off the pitch which is great um boys i genuinely so appreciated the invitation yesterday i'm going to the world cup match it was phenomenal i mean uh yeah the flags that like the the anthems uh i don't know why but they they do touch me and when i when you see a guy get a little bit of a kick out of it it's like you see a guy crying dick avocat you know the the coach of curacao who's from holland he cries every single match like uh at the anthem too and it's just like seeing how much it means to people i really uh relate to you having something nice and then expecting it to go away uh i think it means you're good people folks okay that's that's good how drunk did you get after the match yeah i don't think i got drunk after the match i think i got drunk after the match i don't think i got drunk after the match i don't think i got drunk after the match i don't think i got drunk after the match i don't think i got drunk after the match i don't think i got drunk after the match yeah but uh because he had your backpack so yeah you were concerned before the game uh for rooting for the vikings against uh a black nation from africa i would say just africa yeah i would yeah i'm being in a place with all blonde people rooting you know with the cross on the crest yeah but did you honestly like it uh it it was you know and then holland is the guy that scores yeah you know you guys were good you you guys the king you guys said f you to old okay we don't have to bring up the holocaust but you guys are i'm good i'm cool with you guys but we'll say that yeah you guys are good people yeah yeah thank you cut the holocaust stuff please no uh if no it was cost the holland cost keep it then that i mean you're in the government only in the parliament so i mean it's difficult only the parliament it's awesome you said the holland cost wow can i vote for you yeah yeah please you're awesome boys boys it was so fun we're gonna do your podcast after after this one uh i really appreciate it then we'll talk about who is who is right called and who and who is more left coded of holland and mbappe that's the subject of our podcast mbappe is fascistic i think yeah and i think that uh holland is uh i think him saying well it we're gonna lose to to france is probably like you know he's he's tall and blonde but he's also yeah he's chill so i don't think he knows who the president is probably i don't think he does all right thanks boys okay you guys are the best skull thank you 21 plus and president in select states for kansas in affiliation with kansas star casino or 18 and present in dc kentucky or wyoming gambling problem call 1-800 gambler or 1-800 my reset call 1-888 7 8 9 7 7 7 7 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in connecticut or visit md gambling help.org in maryland hope is here visit gambling helpline ma.org or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24 7 support in massachusetts or call 1-877-8 hope new york or text hope ny in new york for louisiana call 1-877-770-7867 close your eyes exhale feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today well i'm letting go of the worry that i wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class i got 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts celebrate the World Cup as the best in history, highlighting shocking upsets and chaotic, unpredictable matches.
  2. Criticism is directed at modern tactical coaches like Nagelsmann, whose "hipster 4-4-2" approach is seen as unworkable and out of touch with traditional football.
  3. Germany’s exit is attributed to a lack of tactical depth and overreliance on Bayern, signaling a decline in national team development.
  4. Japan and Morocco are praised for their resilience and tactical intelligence, with Japan’s performance seen as a major surprise.
  5. The hosts mock the absurdity of current coaching styles, comparing them to Pep Guardiola’s flashy but ultimately failed tactics.
  6. The tournament is criticized for prioritizing entertainment over fairness, with disputes over officiating and the treatment of teams like Iran.
  7. A strong emphasis is placed on the emotional and cultural significance of football, especially for underrepresented nations.
  8. The hosts express a desire to see chaos, unpredictability, and raw moments triumph over tactical perfection in the game.

Summary:

The podcast celebrates the World Cup as an unpredictable, emotionally charged spectacle, highlighting shocking results and chaotic matches that defy traditional football expectations. The hosts criticize modern coaching tactics, particularly Germany’s underperformance due to reliance on Bayern and the ill-conceived "hipster 4-4-2" system led by Nagelsmann. They praise Japan and Morocco for their resilience and tactical maturity, while mocking the obsession with fashion-forward, untested strategies.

The tournament’s deeper issues are also examined, including FIFA’s focus on profit over fairness, the dehumanizing treatment of teams like Iran, and the erosion of football’s cultural significance. The hosts stress that the true magic of football lies in raw, chaotic moments—like last-minute goals or emotional meltdowns—rather than tactical perfection. Amid these critiques, there’s a nostalgic reverence for the game’s spirit, especially for underdog nations and the emotional journeys of players and fans.

The episode ultimately blends satire, passion, and deep reflection, advocating for authenticity, identity, and chaos as central to the World Cup experience.

FAQs

The hosts criticized Nagelsmann's tactical approach, calling it narcissistic and ineffective, particularly his 'hipster 4-4-2' formation, which they believed didn't suit the team's playing style or chemistry.

The hosts viewed Japan as a strong, unexpectedly successful team, praising their resilience and sportsmanship, especially in the knockout stages, and noting they were a key factor in the tournament's intensity.

They argued that overly trendy or experimental coaching styles, like those seen with Nagelsmann and Koeman, failed to produce results and instead contributed to confusion and poor team performance.

They believed the Netherlands' loss was due to poor tactical decisions, including a questionable back-five formation and a lack of cohesion, which undermined their national identity and footballing integrity.

Yes, they expressed concern over the tournament's structure, including the third-place playoff, which they saw as more focused on generating revenue than on fair competition or meaningful football.

They emphasized that teams with strong internal unity and shared tactical language—like South Africa or Spain—tend to perform better, while teams relying on big clubs or foreign players struggle to maintain consistency.

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