Escaping the Candy Man: How One Girl Survived the Unthinkable | The Case of Lori Poland | UNSEEN
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The transcript recounts the harrowing kidnapping and survival of three-year-old Lori Poland in 1983. Lori was abducted from her home in Sheridan, Colorado, while playing outside, leading to a frantic search by her parents and police. After three days, a birdwatching couple discovered her alive at the bottom of a 10-foot sewage pit under an abandoned outhouse, where she had been left to die. Despite severe leg infections, dehydration, and profound trauma, Lori survived and was rescued. Investigators identified Robert Paul Therrette as the culprit through eyewitness accounts and a license plate, but initially lacked evidence. Lori’s recovered memories helped piece together the assault and attempted murder, though her young age made testimony challenging. Therrette eventually pleaded guilty to reduced charges and served six years in prison, a sentence many deemed too lenient. Lori’s recovery was long, involving physical healing without amputation and psychological therapy for PTSD, depression, and trust issues. She later became the first in her family to graduate college and now works as a therapist, co-founding initiatives with Dr. Richard Krugman to address child abuse and neglect. Her perspective evolved from seeking punishment to promoting understanding and healing, recognizing that abusers often have histories of abuse themselves. Lori’s story is one of resilience, turning personal suffering into a lifelong mission to prevent harm and support victims, emphasizing that everyone needs to feel they matter.
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On August 25th, 1983, missing three-year-old Lori Poland is found alive at the bottom of
a 10-foot-deep sewage pit under an abandoned outhouse in the Colorado foothills.
Just three days earlier, Lori disappeared from her home without a trace, except for
her pants, found discarded on the sidewalk.
When rescuers pull her from the hole and ask what she was doing down there, the little
girl simply replies, I live here, too traumatized to remember how she'd been kidnapped in broad
daylight.
Then, as they investigate the case.
In the case of the girl in the hole, police discover multiple children claimed to have
been approached by the same strange man, only days before the kidnapping.
At just three years old, Lori is the only one who knows who this man is and what he's
truly capable of.
The problem is, Lori can't remember anything.
And unless those memories return, there's nothing stopping the predator from taking
another child.
In the small town of Sheridan, Colorado, a close-knit community where everyone knows
each other.
In the small town of Sheridan, Colorado, a close-knit community where everyone knows
Three-year-old Lori Poland is placed in the center of the city.
She's playing in her family's front yard with her five-year-old brother.
Their father, Richard, is painting the house nearby.
As the afternoon heat sets in, Lori asks for a popsicle.
There are lots of neighbors around, and Lori's with her big brother.
So Richard Poland, her father, leaves them alone for a minute to get her one.
Inside, he can still see them through the window until he turns his back and reaches
into the freezer.
Seconds later, Richard walks back outside to find Lori's brother, alone.
Next to him, on the curb, are Lori's pants.
In a panic, Richard starts calling out for his daughter, to no avail, until one of the
neighbors tells him a car stopped briefly in front of the house before speeding away
moments later.
Without wasting a second, Richard calls the police.
They launch a massive manhunt, going door-to-door in the neighborhood and interviewing anyone
who has seen something, starting with Richard and Diane.
"I just want Rehazard to bring her back, and not hurt her, please?"
At three years old, Lori was taken, while she was playing outside her home, in Sheridan.
The parents turn to mainstream media to try and locate their daughter.
On the first day of her disappearance, both Diane and Richard appear on TV, pleading for
anyone with information to come forward.
Luckily, many neighbors contact the police.
One eyewitness, Paul Weaver, is particularly suspicious.
Weaver is particularly observant, recalling crucial details about the car involved in
Lori's kidnapping.
On the same day, another witness, Michael R. Fisher, also comes forward with important
information.
His children reportedly had a concerning encounter with a suspicious man a week prior.
"This came up a week before and said a man had followed them home from school and was
trying to give them candy, but they agreed to take their pants off.
So I drove over to their school and I saw a man with shoulder-length hair and a beard.
I got out of the car and said, 'Hey you,' and he took off running towards Bear Creek.
I tried to follow him, but lost him after a while.
He was about five feet tall."
"He was about 5'8", 155 pounds, and his hair was dirty, like dishwater brown."
Even though the police have a description of the car and details regarding the kidnapper's
physical appearance, it doesn't answer the one question that matters: Where is Lori?
And considering that the man who kidnapped her seems extremely dangerous, is she even
alive?
The following day, the police still have nothing concerning Lori, but are closing in on the
culprit's identity.
Investigators from the FBI join the local police and start going door-to-door all around
Denver in hopes of finding more information about the mysterious missing letters on the
kidnapper's license plate.
And against all odds, they strike gold when they bump into Juanita Zappas, a grandmother
living in an adjacent town.
"I saw the TV report and I recognized the car.
I saw it parked in front of my daughter's house on Spotwood Street in Denver.
The driver was bothering my granddaughter while she was playing outside in broad daylight.
My son-in-law jotted down the license plate number and I reported it to the Littleton
police a month ago.
And just in case, I've written down the plate number here: ATV627."
After running the plate, they match it to Robert Paul Therrette, a local golf club groundskeeper
with no criminal record.
The man suspected of targeting multiple children in the span of just a few days has never been
arrested before.
Either Therrette's rampage has only just begun, or something happened to the children who
came before Lori.
In any case, the police can't arrest him due to lack of evidence, so they try to learn
more about his past by talking to his family, starting with Betty Ann Therrette, his mother.
"My son is a good man now, but when he was a teenager he had some issues.
The police once looked into an accident.
There was an accusation of him inappropriately touching a young boy.
But nothing was proven.
I also found women's underwear in his room a few years ago.
I think this kind of behavior is common for teens and it doesn't connect him to the
Poland girl in any way."
Police explain that Robert and his car have been identified in three separate incidents
and in all of them, he offered children candies before asking them to take their pants off.
"I never saw any signs of this kind of behavior from him, but maybe he has like a mental problem.
I'm trying to think of something I did wrong in raising him that could have caused this.
Something happened when he was very young, but I can barely remember.
Maybe I failed him in some way, but I can't recall."
Three days into the search for Lori, and the police and some of the people surrounding
the Polans are slowly beginning to lose hope.
But they themselves are still reaching out to the public, asking for help anytime a reporter
points a camera in their direction.
"The family agonizes, helpless, not knowing what to do.
It's not fair, her mother says, especially to their little girl.
She'll be afraid and won't know what's happening.
Diane Poland says, 'Please, if all of you can help look for her little girl, please,'
she says."
"Please bring her back.
You can't do this to people."
But the general air of desperation surrounding the case isn't calm.
The police have found Robert Paul Thorette, searched his home, his workplace, they have
questioned his family, his fiancée, his mother, and yet they simply can't find Lori or anything
that incriminates him.
Sheridan is surrounded by dense forests and miles of mountain trails.
If Thorette wanted the little girl to disappear, he has a thousand places to hide her.
And what could this mean for Lori?
Keeping a kidnapped three-year-old hidden from the FBI and every police department in
the Denver area seems almost impossible.
Every hour Lori's kidnapper remains free decreases her chances of being found alive.
Investigators know they have the right man.
But without Lori, there's nothing they can do.
Later that morning, miles away in the Colorado foothills, Cynthia and Steven Gollin, a couple
out birdwatching, head to the mountains for a picnic.
On their way, Cynthia says she needs to go to the bathroom, so her husband turns toward
the Beaver Hook trailhead, remembering the old camber amenities there.
As she walks in, Cynthia hears a male voice.
It's hard to imagine the horror she must have felt upon hearing the desperate cries
of a little girl coming from the latrine.
Cynthia looks down into the hole only to see the reflection of the dim light in the tearful
eyes of a child.
Neighbors in the area stop to watch and ask questions.
Could it be Lori?
A couple from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on a birdwatching expedition, found the little
girl by sheer accident.
Don Shook of Jefferson County Sheriffs read a statement.
"I heard a cry," it continued, "my husband also heard it from outside the outhouse."
The crying continued.
"We searched the area around, then the child started calling for mommy.
I want some Kool-Aid.
My husband saw her and asked what she was doing down there.
He said, 'Do you want to get out?'
And she answered yes."
Steven Baker, a volunteer firefighter, is called to the scene.
Once he reaches the bottom, he locates the girl and checks her condition.
Despite being trapped in the pit for several days without food or water, Lori is still
conscious, but her legs are in very bad shape.
Steven gently lifts her off the mound and secures her onto his harness.
When they reach the top, Lori is immediately sent to the hospital.
Diane, Lori's overjoyed mother, follows right behind.
Once there, the situation is dire as her mental state goes from bad to worse.
She is stuck in a disassociative state, suffers insomnia-induced waking nightmares, and is
absolutely terrified.
She is terrified of everyone, even her own parents.
"Capturing the terror and relief.
only her parents could feel. But sadly, their ordeal is far from being over, as doctors are
faced with a difficult decision. Lori's legs became deeply infected during her time underground.
The infection is spreading so fast that amputation seems to be the only option to save Lori's life.
On top of that, investigators are also racing against time. They have to stop Robert Paul
Theret before he strikes again. Their only way out is for the traumatized Lori to somehow testify
against Theret, something easier said than done since the little girl has already begun to repress
and forget the events. But against all odds, Lori manages to piece together her terrifying ordeal
in less than two weeks.
Dr. Richard Krugman was Lori's pediatrician at the time at the Kemp Center and shot video of
this interview. This is how it all happened from Lori's perspective. Robert Paul Theret parks in
front of the house in a hurry and opens his passenger door. He offers her some candy and she,
being only three years old, is easily lured by the treat. He then forces her to take her pants off
and is gone in a hurry. Theret is well aware of the danger he has placed himself in by committing
such a brazen crime in a well-populated area. He knows that he has to put as much distance as
possible between himself and the town in order to evade the police. Finally, he arrives at an old,
abandoned outhouse set back into the deep woods.
Inside, the three-year-old will suffer an ordeal no child should ever have to experience.
Out of respect for Lori, who was only a toddler at the time, we won't cover any more of the assault,
as it is extremely graphic. When he's done, Theret lifts her up and drops her down the
outhouse's ten-foot-deep toilet, right into the latrine pit. There is no way for her to see,
but she can feel something is wrong with her foot after crashing down at the bottom. There,
she is trapped in the dark.
Surrounded by filth and ice-cold water, the sound of the door slamming shut echoes in her mind as
she starts to cry in fear and pain. She has just been left to die underground.
Down the hall, Lori somehow knows there is something wrong with the water. In total
darkness, she can only rely on her sense of touch and smell to tell apart her surroundings,
but these two are enough for her to understand that she should stay as far away as she can
from the sludge. There is some sort of mound of wood and rubble over the murky water,
so she sticks to it.
Flattening it with her arms and turning it into some kind of seat, for a brief moment,
Lori recalls a memory of her mother.
Lori's worries may seem trivial now, but what she doesn't know is that right above her head,
years of untreated methane gas and hydrogen sulfide have accumulated in the upper layer
of the pit. If she stands up, even for a minute, she'll probably pass out.
If she doesn't, she'll fall off the mound and drown in the water. The same is true for
the underlying sludge. She'll risk severe infection if her wounded legs come into contact
with it. But even if the little girl knows better, the mound is very small, and there's
no way she can fit her entire body onto it. And so, Lori lets her legs hang, with her
wounded toes sometimes coming into contact with the surface of the water.
And he left me there. And he left me there to starve to death. He left me there for dead.
A known amount of time later, Lori's young mind starts to fail her. She can't discern night from
day, as minutes last like hours, while the pain from her now heavily infected legs keep her awake
at all times. The chemicals that were in this toilet made it up into my pelvis. My legs were
completely black all the way up to my upper thigh. But as much as the underground seems
oppressive to her, it is also her salvation. The biting cold of the latrine is nothing
compared to the nighttime temperature in the Colorado mountains. If she had been left
in the forest, she wouldn't have lasted more than a night. But down in the pit, she has
managed to survive for four days straight, without food or water.
She can't see them, but her legs are almost black with infection, and her time is running
out. With only a few hours left to live, Lori tries to reminisce about her mother, but her
memory is blurry at best. How long has she been down there? Days? Weeks?
Months? And suddenly, one clear memory comes back. She remembers her mother's face, congratulating
her for something she did only a few days back. But the recollection slips from her
mind almost as fast as it came. Now, all she can hear is the echoes of her own cries, amplified
by her buzzing fever, and nothing else. Not even the door slamming up top, nor the screams
of the disturbed couple who happened to find her, down at the bottom of the pit.
"So I was driving by, and the wife had to use the bathroom. They looked at the outhouse
that I was in, and the husband was like, 'Mm-mm, we're gonna keep looking. We'll find
something else.' And so like a mile down the road, she says, 'You need to turn around
and go back.' And like any good husband, he listened, and turned around, and they heard
me crying. And so eventually, they looked down, and they said, 'What are you doing here?'
And I told them that I lived there. And so for me, it was my new normal.
Like, I just, I literally thought I lived in the bottom of a toilet. And so I was rescued
and reunited with my family. And you can imagine the trauma that my family went through. Like,
it just goes on and on and on and on." It takes Dr. Krugman two weeks to piece together
Lori's terrifying ordeal. He knows there is no way a jury will rely on the words of
a three-year-old, but her memories help investigators understand what happened inside the outhouse,
and they reveal something police don't know.
Lori didn't know before. Threat didn't just kidnap Lori. He assaulted and tried to kill
her. And he almost succeeded. Even though every expert agrees that Lori needs both of
her legs amputated to survive the extreme infection she caught in the pit, the little
girl somehow finds it in her to fight back, and miraculously heals without the need for
any surgeries. When she is better, Lori is finally reunited with her parents for good.
While this is happening, Threat is eventually forced to give himself up. Investigators then
task young Lori with identifying the man who hurt her out of a police lineup.
"She was rock solid in her identification. Her body language said, 'Mommy, that's him,'
and she sort of reeled back. She was a little scared."
Closing in on the trial, Robert's wife provides him with a fake alibi. This leads the prosecution
to believe that Robert might get away with it if he sticks to his not-guilty plea. This
forces the judge to make a controversial decision.
He offers Robert the right to have a child. Robert's right to have a child. The judge then asks him to report a plea deal. Instead of being charged
with kidnapping, attempted murder, child abuse, battery, and sexual abuse, all charges
are dropped except attempted murder and sexual abuse. This reduces his sentence from 80 years
to only 10 years. "He was sentenced to 10 years in prison and was released after 6 for
good behavior." The impacts of the events on Lori's life are long-lasting and profound.
As a child, she experienced a range of psychological and emotional problems, such as depression,
anxiety, and PTSD. As she grew up, she started struggling with trust and self-esteem issues.
But proper support and care, like counseling and therapy, helped her cope with the trauma
and heal from the abuse in the long run. And now that she's an adult, Lori sees the red
sentencing from a completely different perspective.
"Do you feel like justice was served? For me, it's not really about justice. It's more
about being impactful. And every day I wake up and I just try and be impactful and try
and be good in the world and prevent people from growing up and causing harm."
Twenty years after her kidnapping, Lori finally realizes her ambition in 2003 when she graduates
from college. She is the first member of her extended family ever to do so.
At a Caregiver's Award luncheon, she's honored for the work she does outside of school: counseling
abused children. "As a survivor of childhood trauma herself, Lori is able to show residents
that their past does not have to be their future." "When I look back at all the things
that I've been through, and a lot of them have been hard and very unfortunate and disgusting,
but at the same time, they are a part of me, and I'm grateful for experiencing those things."
Poland knows that her past will always be a part of her, but she's determined that it
will never define her. Her parents have watched a little girl endure, overcome, and blossom
into an extraordinary woman. Lori Poland describes her family and friends as a life
preserver of strength around her, there for support in dark times, here to celebrate the
brightest yet. "I'm done, and I did it, and I set my mind
to it, and I accomplished it. So, that's why I'm happy."
To this day, the ripple effects of what happened continue. But Lori Poland, now a mother of
three, has never backed away from a fight, not only for herself, but now for all children
who have been abused. "Today, she operates her
own therapy practice and works alongside pediatrician Dr.
Richard Krugman, who helped her through her own trauma decades ago as the co-founder of the End
Child Abuse and Neglect Association, or ENCAN. Lori's work with the association has shown her
that abuse is often part of a cycle of violence, with victims on both sides, as most sex offenders
have a history of being abused in their own childhood. Robert Paul Thorette's past demonstrates
this, as he was abused as a child starting at age three, the same age Lori was when he kidnapped her.
Imagine, I've sat in a room with 250 sex offenders who shared for the first time in their lives
their own lived experience of being harmed, and how that created this anger inside of them
to then amplify them causing harm. Again, not to excuse it, not to justify it, but to understand it.
Instead of seeking punishment and justice, Lori's mission is to promote healing and understanding,
recognizing, and improving.
that every person involved in abuse needs support and care to heal and move forward.
Her story is truly a beacon of hope, inspiring others to turn their suffering into strength
and to use their experiences to make a positive impact on the world. She wants all victims of
abuse and neglect to know that their voices will always be louder than silence.
I've never met a human, no matter how atrocious their crime, that their primary need is not to
matter.
It's up to us to do the right thing. If we, instead of getting angry, had some semblance of
understanding, not excusing, but understanding that those people matter, imagine the changes
if we ensured that every human felt like they mattered.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
In 1983, three-year-old Lori Poland was kidnapped from her front yard in Sheridan, Colorado, while her father briefly left to get her a popsicle.
After a massive manhunt, she was found alive four days later at the bottom of a 10-foot sewage pit under an abandoned outhouse, having survived without food or water.
Police identified Robert Paul Therrette as the kidnapper through witness accounts and a license plate number, but lacked evidence until Lori recovered enough to identify him.
Lori suffered severe leg infections and psychological trauma, but miraculously avoided amputation and slowly healed with therapy.
Therrette was charged with attempted murder and sexual abuse, receiving a 10-year sentence (released after six years) due to a plea deal, which many saw as lenient.
Lori struggled with PTSD, depression, and trust issues but overcame them through counseling and support.
She became the first in her extended family to graduate college in 2003 and now works as a therapist, co-founding efforts with Dr. Richard Krugman to combat child abuse and neglect.
Lori’s mission shifted from seeking justice to promoting healing and understanding, emphasizing that abuse is often a cycle affecting both victims and perpetrators.
Summary:
The transcript recounts the harrowing kidnapping and survival of three-year-old Lori Poland in 1983. Lori was abducted from her home in Sheridan, Colorado, while playing outside, leading to a frantic search by her parents and police. After three days, a birdwatching couple discovered her alive at the bottom of a 10-foot sewage pit under an abandoned outhouse, where she had been left to die.
Despite severe leg infections, dehydration, and profound trauma, Lori survived and was rescued. Investigators identified Robert Paul Therrette as the culprit through eyewitness accounts and a license plate, but initially lacked evidence. Lori’s recovered memories helped piece together the assault and attempted murder, though her young age made testimony challenging.
Therrette eventually pleaded guilty to reduced charges and served six years in prison, a sentence many deemed too lenient. Lori’s recovery was long, involving physical healing without amputation and psychological therapy for PTSD, depression, and trust issues. She later became the first in her family to graduate college and now works as a therapist, co-founding initiatives with Dr.
Richard Krugman to address child abuse and neglect. Her perspective evolved from seeking punishment to promoting understanding and healing, recognizing that abusers often have histories of abuse themselves. Lori’s story is one of resilience, turning personal suffering into a lifelong mission to prevent harm and support victims, emphasizing that everyone needs to feel they matter.
FAQs
Lori Poland, a three-year-old girl, was found alive at the bottom of a 10-foot-deep sewage pit under an abandoned outhouse in the Colorado foothills. She had been kidnapped three days earlier from her front yard.
He was identified after a witness, Juanita Zappas, recognized his car from a TV report and provided the license plate number ATV627. The police matched it to Therrette, a local golf club groundskeeper.
Lori was severely traumatized and repressed the memories of the kidnapping. She was in a dissociative state and initially told rescuers she 'lived' in the pit, unable to recall the events.
The judge offered Therrette a plea deal where all charges except attempted murder and sexual abuse were dropped. This reduced his potential sentence from 80 years to 10 years, and he was released after 6 years for good behavior.
Despite doctors recommending amputation due to severe infection, Lori miraculously healed without needing any surgeries. Her legs recovered, and she was eventually reunited with her parents.
Lori Poland is a mother of three and operates her own therapy practice. She works with Dr. Richard Krugman as co-founder of the End Child Abuse and Neglect Association (ENCAN) to help abused children.
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