Erin & Charissa on Sideline Mishaps, Best Kelce Convo, Girl Dad Advice & Being a Plus One | EP 166

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Carissa, we're having a turdaken! welcome back to new heights ladies and gentlemen boys and girls at one dream show brought to you by kfc some famous bowls and a and a bucket of kfc check it baby that's what i'm talking about take me back we're your host i'm travis kelsey my big brother jason kelsey subscribe on youtube one dream plus wherever you get your podcast and follow the show on all social media at new heights show with one ass jason tell the people what we got coming up today all righty our guests today are two legends in the sports media world hey you know them from fox nfl sunday thursday night football and as the co-host of the calm down podcast they covered super bowls the world series bcs championships nba all-star games celebrity diving competitions and even spelling bees that's right between them they've got an emmy a pat summer award and a third-place finish on Dancing with the Stars. Two of the most requested guests we've ever had on this show. 92 percenters, please welcome Aaron Andrews and Carissa Thompson! Yes! Wow! Aaron doesn't break those pom-poms out for nothing. Here we go. You know I keep them locked down. Hi, guys. Thanks for having us. What's going on? Yeah! Bring them back. Come on. All of your children. Can we make the joke, Carissa? Are we the first females to be on this podcast since a certain incredible interview that you had? And we're going to be, we'll almost have the same views. We're just lucky enough to have you guys on here. I got to know who did the spelling bee. I can't read. I mean, I can't, I can't read or speak. It took at you, Travis. Oh, no, this is, everyone knows at this point. They got to, right? This is self-professed by Travis, yes. If I can't read, I sure as hell can't spell. That's the damn thing. You and Julian Edelman. Jules also says that he can't read, so there's that. And he says he likes big men, so there's that as well. I appreciate you guys including the diving competition. Respectfully, I say this, that the diving competition that I hosted on ABC was more of a flop than it was a splash, which was the name of it. They were like, we're going to put Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on a, you know, 35-meter platform and see what happens. I was like, whose idea was this? So we have to say there was not a season two. And I'd like to say third place was, I lost, she won the competition to Nicole Scherzinger, Pussycat Doll. She had been in performing arts school since she was 14 years old. And I got third place to Evan Lysacek, who had just won the gold medal for figure skating in the winter olympics if i had been asked to read a box score i would have fucking won you know what that's right you're number one in our heart thank you you were first place in my mind all right let's get into it um you guys have interviewed both me and jason who's a better interviewee interviewee yeah interviewee um you guys well i had the great privilege of interviewing you both at the same time i don't know when this was this was like 10 lifetimes ago it's got to be at least 10 years ago that i sat down with you guys for nfl films i think it was jason's super bowl yeah and it was we were in where we ink we were by your old high school because nfl films was doing a feature on you guys and so i sat down with both of you and it was so wonderful and that's when i learned travis that you wear number 87 because of jason don't let him tell you which is the biggest load of shit he's not that a load of shit did not pick that number because of that you've somehow retroactively worked this in there's no way it was it was it was the only number that i had a connection to you just like tony gonzalez and you are what did you wear 87 for what did you wear 87 we went over this in the interview that clarissa had with us in cleveland travis told me that he wears number 87 because that's the year that jason was born and i thought that was so nice and that's how it all started without jason i wouldn't be where i am today exactly now say it back jason without travis i would be i'd be way more successful i'm holding them back complete opposite on the flip side though jason has been known to be the um what is it the sandra uh the um the what are you reading that everyone's calling you no i was no i wish i was at this point um jason has been known as a journalist himself now being with ESPN uh what do you think of his interviewing skills are you gonna say Barbara Walters there it is that's what he was gonna say Diane Sawyer I think you're killing it Jason we saw you I I don't know where we saw you recently but yeah I think you're doing an amazing job I will tell you though we were just making a joke about uh you know when you guys had taylor on chris and i were both saying after that you nailed that you freaking crushed that i don't and actually i'm gonna ask you some questions right now pre-prepared i mean because you just were banging them out we have a great editing team they're very good and um i think anybody could have done a good job interviewing tara she was oh well yeah she was fantastic and i i don't know i just i appreciate you saying that it was a lot of fun you did a good job together i'm terrible i can't interview anybody i flip over my words i stumble no you don't but that was that was a fun one for sure i've been in production meetings with you remember i don't know we were sitting in the back we were sitting with you and tom rinaldi rinaldi do and he asked you something about a family member yeah you started bawling in our production meeting do remember that i do remember it tom rinaldi can make anybody cry oh yeah that guy is just like perfect of tugging at the heartstrings but um yeah i've been known to shed a couple tears i try to hold it back like i know that i'm not supposed to but i can't not do it i don't know yeah anyways yeah what's the big what's okay you go ahead this is your podcast you ask the question no no please take this over they want to hear from you guys they've heard enough from us Because, Jake, the last time that I saw you, you were a guest, like a week guest on – not a week guest. Don't take that out of context. Don't edit that out. You were a great guest. You were – yeah, we were in Chicago, and we did the kicking contest. But on Thursday Night Football, you came in, and you filled in for the week, and it was awesome, and just, you know, were a guest of ours. But I haven't seen you since then. And so, obviously, now with, you know, almost a full year under your belt in broadcasting, what's been the biggest surprise for you? Oh, man, how much travel it is and how much more you have to lock into everything across the whole, like, NFL. Yeah. Like, I think when you play, you get so used to just focusing on your team and who you're playing that week. And a lot of times, you kind of don't know what's happening, like, holistically across the whole league. Now, I'm probably watching more football than I've ever watched because you have to watch as many games as possible. You're watching press conferences. You're doing all these things that, as a player, you just don't pay attention to. And then, on top of that, every week's an away game. Every week, you're traveling. And that is awesome in some ways. You get to go to a lot of cool cities, and there's not as much pressure as playing. But at the same time, it is a lot of travel. So, I enjoy the ability to stay involved with the games. I like the fact that we get to go to the games. So, we get to see players and coaches. But I would say those are the two things that probably we're the most, like, getting used to. Yeah. And I ask, now that you aren't playing in the game, but you're watching from the viewpoint that we have every week, is there a particular stadium or area that you've been to? And you're like, this is awesome. This is really cool. Oh, man. I hate to say this, and Eagles fans are going to be furious. I never liked playing in Jerry World. I hated that stadium. Isn't it the best? It's fucking awesome. It's a cool spot as a spectator. Do you have the chicken fingers there yet? Fire. Oh, yeah. Yeah, everything. I mean, they've done a really good job with that play. From a viewing standpoint, Vegas is like a show. Like, it feels like you're at a legitimate concert there, which we were just there this week. So, I think that's probably just fresh. And then, you know, the places you'd like to play in as a player, too, there's like a charm to it as well. Like, I've always loved going to the Packers Stadium for much different reasons than Jerry World. It's awesome. So, yeah. And then trying to think of, like, another spot that would be Bill's. I think it's like, I can't wait to see the new stadium when they build that one. What it feels like. But I've been enjoying the last couple seasons. You know what it looks like? It looks, Jason, it looks like from the outside, it looks like Allegiant Stadium. It looks like that same design, that kind of spaceship thing. But I kind of miss that. I don't know. I mean, the nostalgia of Orchard Park is, like, its own. It's going to be hard to, yeah, you can't replicate it. No. I am happy that it's open, though. Yeah. I'm going to still see Buffalo snow games. I get this year, I've never really in my career done a massive, like, snow game. And I've wanted to so bad. You watch these people. Like, Rams-Philly playoff game last year. I've wanted to do something like that so bad, where I just look like Ralphie and Randy in Christmas. I'm not doing that. I was with James Winston last year. Oh, yeah, you did. James Winston doing snow angels. Yes, in Cleveland. And then they made the playoff. Yeah, it was really fun. But, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no. But we're doing Philly at Bill's, I believe, later. I think it's right after Christmas. So the potential of, you know, a snow globe game could be fire. So it would be exciting. Up there on the lake? Yeah. Some of the guarantee. You're going to. They get a little bit of snow. Oh, for sure. I hope so. Was that the James Winston? How lucky are we? How lucky are we to be playing football in Cleveland, Ohio? Exactly. And he's talking about the Calvary with the horses and the whole thing in Kelly's pregame interview. Isn't football just better when James is starting? Yes. Yes. It's not even a question. Also, too, because from our vantage point, I just think about the reporters. Like, when he stands up there at the podium, like, you know you're going to get something. Even if it's bad, you know, obviously he ends that game by throwing the interception and he still is like positive. And you're like, this guy is the ultimate optimist. He's won at life. He's won a lot. I got to shoot that question back to you guys, though. Going into every single NFL stadium all over the country, which one's your favorite to visit? Hit it, CT. Well, the nostalgia of Lambeau is always number one. I mean, that is that is football. So that's number one for me. But also I love Arrowhead's great, too. I'm not just saying that because it's huge. It's because it's huge. It doesn't it's not it hasn't gone corporate. And as much as these big stadiums are great for some reason, you start to lose that feel this. Your stadium is very much like a college field because the fans are right on top of the field and you don't have all the suites down below and that kind of stuff. I also love Charlotte has some bangers. I always like they play some tunes. Yeah. In Santa Clara at Levi's Stadium, the music. Aaron and I are big on the DJs. Like, if they've got some music, Atlanta is obviously. They're playing some Pretty Pablo or. And then, of course, in Atlanta, you get Luda every other second. So it's good. Yeah. What about you, Aaron? I feel like because I've been doing this a hundred years, it's the little things like Jerry's World. They take care of you. It's inside. I mean, I know the players have the sun in their eyes and that sucks for a 425, you know, game. But me, I'm looking great. The chicken fingers are fire. I love going to the link because obviously, you know, it's fun. Great hotel fire dinner the night before Dom. I know he's trying to take care of the team, but he's looking out for the girl, which I appreciate. You need an IV. You need to work out. Fine. Don will take care of me. I'm into it. Lamp post fire. Like, it's it's always such a fun time. I've done games minus 10 there. I've done games that are hot there. I've done games that we didn't think it was supposed to snow. And all of a sudden it did. It's just a pain in the butt getting to. I love you, Wisconsin. You're so much fun. You know, once we're there, it's a time. But, man, it's hard getting out. I'm going to tell you what she she misses. Troy Aikman's plane is what she misses. I got the in and I'm out. Thanks. Well, you know, who's taking advantage of the Troy Aikman plane these days? A swag goose. Swag is always hopping on. Yeah, I bet. You better not be in my seat. He keeps calling Troy his best friend. So he keeps that plane situation fresh. I bet he does. You're all FBO is your best friend. Got it. We were talking about Jerry's World. I'm actually going to Jerry's World on Thanksgiving. You are. You guys have a few Thanksgiving games, I believe, and a Black Friday game as well. Right. Yep. What's that like doing like a like hosting a holiday game? And is that any different than the actual ones? Or is it just kind of getting away from the family or. Since I've gone into this industry because I used to do Thursday night football with Mike Tirico, Kirk Herbstreet. We had a group together. I mean, we were doing West Virginia games, you know, and Louisville, West Virginia. On Thursday. Oh, yeah. So it's hard. But I think it's, you know, Chris and I say it all the time to women that ask us about being in the industry. It's one of the best jobs, but you have to love it because, you know, on in the morning on Thanksgiving, you're sitting in a hotel room watching the Macy's Day Parade. But then you have a front row seat to some of the best athletes in the world. So it's also pretty bad ass because we have some amazing games that we get to watch. And I just invited myself over to the Kelsey household for the Black for Thanksgiving. Come on. Come on over, Chris. So, yeah, it's great. And then I'm going to be with you, Trav, in Kansas City. I got we got Broncos Chiefs on Christmas. So fun. How do you like playing on Christmas? Because you did it last year, too. You do love it. I do. I love it. I just, you know, I think I have a blast going outside and just playing the game I love on a day like that. When I know everybody's enjoying their families together, sitting around a campfire, sitting around. The the chimney or the Christmas tree, watching the games at home. And I just know it's I could I can I can almost feel the the excitement of Christmas that everyone else is enjoying while I'm on the field. And I don't know. It's just it's a fun it's a fun atmosphere. I've had the pleasure of playing, I think, three games on Christmas and in each and every single one of them. I had a blast. And on top of that, I get to have everybody come through to Kansas City and Christmas in Casey this year. So it'll be a good time. It'll be a good time. That's right. Those games just feel different. They do. Like Thanksgiving, we all on Fox, we pay tribute to John Madden, which is really, really special. So that day just feels different for us. Yeah. It's a ducking. You guys ever had that? I have never had one. I've always wanted to. I don't even know where you get that. I'll get one sent to your house. They send us all one. Yeah, we'll get them for you guys. Carissa, we're having a turducken! Goddamn right. By the way, I'm packing that on air, Al. And I'll send it to you. We'll see you in Philadelphia. It is so good. Can you fry a turducken or does it have to be roasted? How do you cook a turducken? That's a great question. Why not? Well, because there's stuffing on the inside. Inside, yeah. There's a lot of things in there. Hey, one guy that we all love on this podcast a lot, Greg Olson. We had Greg Olson eat a turducken one year, and it was just like, ah. He went crazy? Oh, my God. He loved it? So good. Hands through the hair. You know, by the third quarter, it was so good. It was so fabulous. Oh, yeah. Forget the gel. It's just straight grease. Jason likes to do a fried turkey. Yeah, we do, too. I prefer the fried bird. Same. No, I'm saying you like to fry your turkey on Thanksgiving. Yeah, I'm frying it. Same. All right, all right. Just want to make sure. Wait, you actually do it, Jace? Oh, yeah. Jared does it, too. He's gone through three fryers. I do tend to leave the oil in the fryer outside for too long, and then we got to pitch the fryer, but yeah. What's the key to a perfect fried turkey? Got to brine it. Definitely make sure that it's completely thawed and it's not frozen and all that leads to a disaster. You don't want that. You got to make sure you get the fill line properly, right? Because obviously when you put the turkey in, the oil is going to come up. So you don't want that oil too high, but you want enough that it's going to cover the bird. But yeah, you brine it. There's an injector. One of our former strength coaches told me, I forget the name, but there's a specific injector of like butter Creole seasoning that you inject right before you put it in the fryer. It is real good. Very good. Yeah. That's about it. Yeah. We love it. Put the seasoning on the outside of it. Yeah. They're good. 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If I had a question, I'd have to raise my hand and he would teach me the game of football. And it was so, cause he's like, Hey, I'm not going to have you yapping over here the whole time. So I will teach you the game, but you know what, Jason, you'll appreciate this. And Travis, when you have kids as well, he would make everything a game, right? So he's like, all right, we're going to play school. So you're going to raise your hand and I'm the teacher and I'll teach you. And those kinds of things. He also had long hair. And so it was like, if he wanted to be lazy and watch us, he's like, okay, I'm the patient. I broke my leg. I can't get off the couch. So fix my broken leg. Or so every game he played revolved sitting on the couch and it was still playing with us. It was brilliant. He had long hair and he's like, look, I need my haircut. You got to fix my hair again. Hasn't moved from the couch. But anyways, I need to get some of these games. Yeah. You're playing games. It's all wrong. Jason, everything should revolve around you sitting your ass on the couch. You'll be in a great dad, but yeah, he loved sports. So I love sports. And I had a brother who played baseball growing up. I played sports growing up. And for me, you know, sports was so much a part of who I was growing up. And so I was a big believer that anything I could do professionally that kept me in sports was the ideal situation. Work as a team, we win together, we lose together, all of that. And I just love the idea of being able to have a profession that evolved involved sports involved and worked around it. So that's sort of my motivation. And then, you know, the path to actually getting on air is a little circuitous, but yeah, I started in HR because I just wanted to get in the building, went through everyone's files, ended up blackmailing them. No, I'm so smart. You got me. I was like, Oh, this is great. I have this on you. Let me do. Yeah. Who have you been hanging out with? I got in the building through HR and just, just ended up in production and then, you know, different things from there, but no, I just have always loved sports. So that's sort of my quick 22nd background. It was awesome. I love it. Mine's my dad. He's from new England, big, big, you know, Celtics, red socks. He grew up liking the Packers. Cause he always said the Patriots were so bad that they were blacked out in Massachusetts. That's how bad they were. So I, I grew up just, my dad's a great storyteller. He was on television forever and he just explained it to me very much. Like not like Chris's dad. I wasn't, you know, taking care of him. No, I'm joking, but he would just make these people sound like my friends. And unfortunately, unfortunately I grew up thinking that they were, I was obsessed with the Celtics. I, I wanted the red socks to win a world series so bad for my father. I loved sitting back and watching Brett Favre, you know, do his thing with my dad. And then when I, there was never another option. Well, actually it was like, I want to be a sports broadcaster or I'm going to be a Marine biologist, which, well, wow. Okay. Wildly different. Sure. Sure. So, yeah, let's be honest. We all know how smart I am. I don't think that would have worked out, but I, I love it so much. I went to the university of Florida. I told my dad because, you know, if you have a good football team, college football team, the ESPNs, the CBS is, they'll be there. I just wanted really fun Saturdays. And then because I grew up thinking these guys were my friend. I've friends. I've had multiple encounters with Larry Burr. I met him and I told him everything about my life in one minute and absolutely like vomited my life story about my everything called my dad right away. And I said, holy shit, dad, I just met Larry legend. I think I embarrassed myself. I talked about all this stuff that, and he goes, oh my God, can you go back and say, I'm sorry. I'm like, no, dad, Kevin McHale in a, in an airport one time ran up to him. It was like 11 o'clock. He's going somewhere. I'm going somewhere. Come on. I'm in home from a game telling him he was my first crush ever. Hi, I'm Aaron Andrews. And I just want to tell you, thank you for shut up. Shut up. One cool ass story though. Like you think about like giving it, you know, paying it forward and, you know, with your parents and everything. When I worked for ESPN, no, actually Fox, I got to cover the world series. And, um, my dad was, I took my dad to Fenway. It was actually right after, um, you know, the, the marathon and everything and how dramatic that was. But I brought my dad onto the field after they won. And then Fox said, we're going to go live, go inside the clubhouse, grab big poppy or whatever. Poppy actually came out in a tank top goggles, champagne, sprayed all of us and said, pop up and started swinging him around. Like my dad was just like, this is fucking awesome. It was just so cool. Those stories are the best. You know, we both have our motivation and inspiration. To be in sports broadcasting was our dads. And I think to be able to have those moments with them, like you had that, the world series, I got to bring my dad to the 2019 masters front row. Amen. Corner top of the leaderboard starts falling off. Tiger's inching his way up. And I'm like, well, we might be able to see this. And then we go to 16 or second row at 16. He birdies 16. And I like sat there and I was like, holy shit, I'm going to be able to experience tiger. When winning the masters with my dad and like our parents, our parents don't ask for anything like all they ever want is for us to be happy and healthy and like do what we love. And so to like have access or those moments where we can share them with our parents, like that's like the greatest gift in the world. Yeah. That's awesome. Given the fam that those kinds of memories, those kinds of moments, it's it's, you can't put a price tag on it. And my daughters don't like watching sports with me yet. How do I start to convince them to like watching sports? Is it the haircut? I got to start playing with the games. Yeah, doctor barbershop. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. So they don't, they're not interested in, in football. They're so, they're so young. Why did I think she would do it now? She usually wants to watch some Disney movie or like yet, but hopefully I'm, I'm hopeful that it's going to start to happen. You're coming up. I got to start coming up with a game. I think, I think that that's the way I got to figure out some way that we're, we're doing something and playing while the game starts. happening because the attention span is not there. These kids this day, they can't sit down and watch. no they just want the screen to be changing continually stimuli yeah crack about you know aaron and i have talked about it like with women and young viewerships like taylor's impact cannot be overlooked like those little girls that maybe didn't have an interest in football and then sit down because it's her like that the the commercials and the different like little videos that you see that now all of a sudden the dads have a bond with their daughter or like is so special again as two women who have made a career out of this because of their dads to have those moments like who knows what kind of impact that will have later on in their lives in a myriad of different ways but it's really special to see that was just it for me was just having that time with my dad because my dad worked the weekends he was you know at on tv at night so i didn't get to see him so that was like our special time to do that so maybe you carve that out as special time with your kids i don't know i i like that free time i mean listen i'd rather watch football than some of the other things we're doing uh i think also you just mentioned taylor and how much she's gotten girls into the sport and dads and daughters together which that's one of the coolest things i get when people talk about taylor and travis and hearing from dads or hearing from daughters about that it's an awesome thing but also like how much do you guys think about how many women you've been impacted that watch sports like oh yeah kylie was a communications major she raved about both of you guys and how much she's loved like the platform that you've put women on in sports like you guys often think about that and how many women look to you guys as like role models for uh being involved in sports thank you for saying that thank you kylie that's high praise from you um but there was a young lady her name's alexandra she works as a patriots reporter she has for the last five years she's been in the industry for 10 years and as i was walking out on thursday night she handed me a handwritten letter and i was like she handed me a handwritten note and wrote the nicest thing about aaron and i and i don't ever like to think like oh inspiration whatever but it was so well said that you know she watched aaron and i do this over the last few years and kind of were you know behind the scenes i guess the motivation for her to do it as well and now she's doing it and she's doing it on a big stage and that's and again aaron and i have been in this industry for 20 years so when i have moments like that or even get anyone recognizing that maybe we might have you know i don't know dare i say inspired them and i think that's a really good thing and i think that's a really good thing inspired them like that's really special and i don't ever ever ever take that for granted because i'll be honest and i told your wife this on on her podcast there was some women that were not so nice to to me coming through uh as i was surprising to me you know ascending i'll just say i mean women can be catty and and look at men can be catty too it's not just limited to the female female uh gender but it it you know jealousy or um you know these are few and far between these are very coveted positions and so look there's a competitiveness that unfortunately turns into cattiness and i always made it a point because i will never forget those people the individuals that were not so nice and i was like if there's anyone i i understand that this seat is is a special privilege to sit in but there will be a time and a place where i have to pass that on you guys know in the industry and the positions that you play and the there comes a time where there's going to be the next younger faster bigger stronger person and so it's like yeah you don't want to give up the seat but it but at least help that person along the way so i'm grateful of the women that were nice to me but the ones that i will always remember the ones that were not so nice so yeah i think for the longest time i well even now i just i was tom rinaldi the other day we were talking he said to me you're not a tourist with how much you love the sport you i live and breathe it not like you guys i mean believe me i i get that that's a different kind of lifestyle and dedication but i'm obsessed with it because it's the only thing i love talking about besides my family um i look up to you guys so much i look up to your families what you've been through and and a lot of that is because of who i ended up and watching his journey and knowing what it takes behind the scenes especially when you're not a superstar or anything like that but you love the game so much um i love football and i there's nothing more i want to do than be out there and so i feel like when people come up to me especially dads and they say i want my little girl to do this i want her to be like you that's i think what's breaking me down a lot more than it used to especially now that i have mac um because i want my my kids to be you i do i want them to attack life like both of you did and um or do and so i think that's the thing that's like hitting me harder than ever you know and and and also i'll echo that about kylie as well when she had me on the podcast and she just mentioned that kylie's no bullshit like she knows what's real and what's not and when she just said hey you know you've done this and i've looked that hit me like i i got you know tears in my eyes because she knows the people that care and love it and respect the players and the coaches and the organizations like chris and i do so that means a lot to me when you're kind of stopped and and like chris i got that note the other day that those are nice reminders absolutely i bet it's the best do you guys remember your first broadcast you've done so many welcome to broadcasting moment were you proud of it were you did you black out did you do you remember exactly what you said i remember my first like my first espn one like i worked with the tampa bay lightning that was my first real gig out of college i was the sideline reporter i mean jared loves to watch those like you know if they're showing the stanley cup and he's like look at green machine i like thought it was so great the tampa bay lightning we're playing the calgary flames in the stanley cup final i worked for abc i got to do it it's game seven back in tampa like the team i got my first job with and you know what my mom and dad and i we went to the west shore mall and we went to anne taylor and i picked out a green top that i thought would be fire for game seven so jared loves when they start playing that he's like look at the green machine there with the lip liner and all that oh my gosh my first espn game after i got you know i i did that for espn they threw me on saturday night football which was you know such a huge deal and i think it was virginia tech usc and it was naughty it was somewhere it wasn't even at their stadium it was such a big night for those two teams and um i remember we had a jib cam jason you know the one because i think you guys use it they had a jib cam and i was gripping that microphone so hard but i also was standing with my legs like this like i was bracing myself like a cheerleader like the old producer after i nailed my hit goes hey great job so next time we do this close your legs i needed a good base i needed a good base ct what about you when i you know worked in hr then i moved into production and i was like i want to you know be in sports broadcasting they're like cool uh good luck with that production and so i took whatever job was available in the production because it was all that remember all the rsn's like the fox sports rocky mound or fox sports pittsburgh so i moved i moved to denver and i became a production assistant and i just worked behind the scenes and i did anything i could to learn the trade and all that kind of stuff and so then they were like well we're going to send you out to like local bars and you know kind of interview fans and all that kind of stuff so like those that was my first on-air experience was in a bar and i was like well this is weird so natural in this environment yeah these are my people in here so then that got parlayed into they let the girl go that was on air as their rockies reporter the colorado rockies and so they they were like we'll give you a shot if you're okay then we'll give you another shot and then they kept giving me shots and so that turned into a two-year contract which was awesome anyways so that was my first on-air experience but my first welcome to tv moment tv in a cold environment moment was i'm working for the big 10 network it is a golden gophers game we are outside you know the one you know the one you know the one you know the one you know the one i got the microphone all right coach says da da da da and the play cock i mean my mouth is frozen oh yeah i can't correct myself so finally i just go tom you guys got it from here and that's the worst jason i don't know if you feel this way on air it's like once you stumble it's like and then you try to correct it it's almost like lying the cover-up that just the continue it's like my mouth was frozen it was just a wrap oh that's funny do you think it's easier to get into sports broadcasting now or verse when you guys first started what do you what do you think of the current landscape i think the one thing that's cool is there's a lot of avenues like these teams have their own like digital social production studios that are nicer than what i was ever you know introduced to before i got to fox or espn so i think there's a lot more opportunities in terms of how you get into the industry but i will say this leslie visser gave me this piece of advice you know and i don't know if you're just talking about being a female in the industry but you know you i say this to young girls i kind of copy her but being a female helps you get your foot in the door but in order for you to stay you have to work your tail off and i think that's because of being a female right um and i that's the chip i have on my shoulder but yeah i do think there's a lot more opportunities what do you think ct yeah i mean in the in the digital age that we live in i mean there's so many different platforms i mean you could start your own channel you could say you know whether it's a podcast whether it's youtube channel any of these things there's so many like whereas for us i mean 20 years years ago it was you know the cbs the abc the you know fox i mean there was only a couple and like as i mentioned those regional channels as well or like your local news i remember my you know when i was working my way through production somebody said to me a news director and he was like you send a resume reel and you know for me it was like on this i took it from a beta and a dvc pro and i put it on a cd and he's like there's going to be different news directors that are going to put this this tape in for all of five seconds so if you don't capture their attention in the first five seconds it's a wrap you're going to be thrown in this pile with a bunch of other tapes people that want to do this and so when i was younger and i knew i wanted to do it i took a paper towel roll on a tennis ball and i taped it together and i made a microphone and i took my parents you know old camcorder thing and i set it up on my brother my brother to be jay buehner i was like can you please be jay buehner so i can interview you and i made this thing and he got like a you know like when you go to the mariners games like oh it's batting you know helmet night or like whatever so he puts oh yeah you're older than me and he's like like oh this is so stupid carissa like so stupid and i was like please i'll do whatever you want just please can you please just do this so he's like fine so he stands there and i interview him yeah i mean i was like can't be ken griffey i mean unfortunately that video would have been epic using that on my resume reel that's on your reel that was on your reel yeah because i was like how am i going to get these news directors attention in the first five seconds and so it was like a 10 year old you know little girl interviewing my brother so anyways those were the things that we had to do nowadays with social media you don't have to you know create your own show attention you just have to get followers and you have to do all of that stuff where it's like there's a following there's a whole different avenue that you can approach it from which is great i mean the more the merrier that's what i say i mean here's my thing about it i'm not saying that i'm and welcoming and everybody there's room at the table for everybody and if there isn't then get another table and build a you know a group over there so um yeah i think it's awesome that if anybody wants to do this job there's opportunities but again you know as you work your way up there's those coveted ones that are few and far between ct do you remember like any of your features or packages that were on your resume reel i can only think of one that i know and i remember i was editing it and i was trying to do phil collins in the air do you remember like one of your oh yeah not not as dramatic as a phil collins so as you had to do the the recording and the editing and this wasn't just like yeah that's crazy and mine was awful jason could you imagine if we had to edit this show edit carry the tripod you had to set up the shot you had to do yeah voiceovers you had to do all of that but i think that's a good to be able to learn all facets of it but let's go back to you guys editing this show okay yeah they would never get out i don't even know what application they're using i can't find the print button on this fucking computer i would have no chance i don't know how to work any of this stuff if you told me to print something on the printer right here i would do you guys have a favorite sport that you like covering oh that's a good one do you have a favorite sport that you like covering oh that's a good one doing it the nfl nfl for sure yeah i was a part of college forever even you know doing college game day and it was great and i loved it so much and i'm grateful of it really just formed me it taught me a lot i mean it did and i i made great relationships with the guys that i worked with but i knew and this was a big thing when i left espn to go to fox it was a i was like am i doing the right thing should i not i mean i called i talked to coach k i talked to chip kelly i talked to a it's the best sport to cover it is awesome and it's because of you guys it is it's just our football players the best nfl players are the best to cover you think hockey's pretty fun too hockey's at time the athletes that play in the nhl are by far the wildest they are like the hidden personalities oh yeah their party their fun time yeah they will say more outlandish things i feel like nfl guys are more buttoned down up and kind of toe the line mostly whereas i feel like nhl guys you'll get like some great sound bites out of these dudes there's a little bit of that protect the shield from the nfl whereas we're hockey because i covered hockey for a couple years when it was versus it became part of mbc's package but i love playoff hockey there is nothing better i gotta say like yes of course playoff you know the nfl that's my number one but right below that is playoff hockey i'll never forget the montreal canadians were an eight seed they knocked off the capitals then they won then they took the flyers i think it was to four and just going and working a game at the bell center in montreal and like that is yeah it was an awesome experience and i don't need to tell erin because she's been to more hockey games than she can ever remember jared winning two stanley cups and like that whole experience but like hockey is incredible i love college college my first ever college football game i worked was michigan app state that big you know the one you that's a fun one yeah and i remember so i was standing there and i was like i mean i'm obviously like understand the game and i'll be like this is this is this is a d3 school this is you know this big upset and so um i remember my i even remember my opening stand-up you could rob a bank in boone today because no one is watching everyone's watching this game right and then it ended up we got in the car afterwards and tom brenneman and charles davis were at the play-by-play and analysts and they go well how do you know what's going on and i'm like i don't know what's that rank of all the games you've worked and i was like well this was my first one it's all downhill from here and this is very odd there were three banks robbed exactly boone north carolina had a lot of bank robberies that day but no it was college football's cool to jump around at camp randall i mean erin got to work sec i'm so jealous i never got to work an sec football game yeah i want to i want to go back to these sec places yeah i've never even been one of them i've only played in one neither has jared he's never gotten to see any of it i'm like you dude you have no idea it's like toronto maple leaves on you know it's a it's the next level so seriously what's the i know i know you went to florida what's the best environment in all honesty on game day because i've heard one like routinely and i want to know if it matches up when i was you know working college game day saban alabama it was the end all be all i was like i'm getting my kid i'm going i'm giving him to saban it's going to be like simba the circle of life he's going to make my kid go to the national championship and get him in the league um so alabama is fire lsu at night that is what everyone says death valley everyone unanimously level it's rocking it's shaking those people have been in the parking lot over the weekend they are marinated perfectly it is shrimp a touffee i you know how much shrimp a touffee i had working at espn that's fire old miss is fun for you know a three o'clock game but lsu is is amazing it's really great people just park in the middle of the street and they just take their car their keys with them like what is happening jesse palmer who i also work thursday night football with he used to talk about when he played for florida i don't know it was a big matchup it was like one versus whatever florida rolls into uh death valley and he said you know they're on the bus with coach spurrier and people are just shaking the gators bus and he said there's gators hanging from the trees and coach spurrier was like hold on y'all hold on old days like that those stories so much fun yeah college football it would yeah it was fun to cover but i like going to i like going to arrowhead with the nil and conference realignment it feels different it's different it's still awesome game that's you know the sport is still great it just felt different when you know like pack 10 was the pack 10 and the you know i don't know there just is like a different vibe to it but that's you know yeah it's it's definitely in a weird state right now with the conferences and the nl stuff and teams are now it has 20 teams i don't even know i couldn't even name all the teams i know it's different kids are like playing for like three different schools like it's nuts it's driving bethleys and yeah but the plus ones you jared steve you guys have to go to lsu together when everybody is like done with their you know playing that would i've wanted you guys would crush it fuck you yes ct i was gonna ask you when you covered nhl and we both did was there ever a time because the injuries with those guys are so different from i mean hockey players will come and do an interview with half their face hanging off and i did it i did a game jeremy ronick that shows how old i am half his face was off like he had gotten it all stitched up and was yeah he had to wear that chin guard for a while i remember this and i looked at him and i go oh my god and then i just blanked out making you talk yeah i go does that hurt and he was like yes really interviews because it was like half his face was hanging off but dude did you ever do one where you're like holy shit no i didn't have that experience but when you said jeremy ronig i remember i worked in olympics i worked in olympics with him in vancouver nobody nobody i repeat and i could out drink jeremy ronick maniac in the best way possible i Oh my God. - I want to play golf with Ronick. heard he is just a blast on the course but what they all are they're so much fun speaking of good people which was a really really fun story we had a chance to and casey hang out um with wayne and janet um and you guys all together and it was i guess i wasn't really paying attention to my husband in the moment like he has you know hung out with wayne a little bit but not anything to like that personal of that night and my husband was glowing i mean it was like and i was oh my god and and it was so cool chris i don't know what you think but like the boys that we were with just asking wayne all the questions like seeing somebody like greg olson just wayne let me ask you something so this three tight end formation no i'm kidding but you know what like greg those guys it was just so so cool and what's so great about wayne and i think the nhl is just a normal dude we'll talk and for sure marissa what a great job she does and and and greg and just really really just awesome to be around i i mean it's wayne gretzky it's there's i mean yeah full stop wayne gretzky i mean you're just down but that just reminds me of the text chain that we're on and greg olson does not care if we tell this story ever okay wayne it's i don't know who's on the text there's a couple of us including greg aaron and i myself dean kevin and dino okay kevin and after that night it was a couple days later like last week i guess wayne had texted greg he got his phone number and he just wrote hey this is 99 okay there's only 199 there's only one it's not jj1 he actually said hey i just want to tell you it was great hanging out with you and i just was watching you and you do a really good job and he also gave a little bit of a hint he said janet and i really enjoyed getting to know you and i just want to tell you it was great hanging out with you so greg sends a picture of the text to all of us on this chain and greg's response is i'm sorry who is this he wrote who is this what oh my god he's had to be joking no he wasn't i mean he had a few ones that night i think we all had a few ones that night that was a good one my guy came in from dallas he was working a game in dallas and came in just to just to get some uh some food over at 1587 had no idea he was gonna run into the great world that's amazing that was the back and forth like that was the giants dallas game and it went back and forth a hundred different times and he was like oh i'm not missing he is such an animal greg what what a time the best that's awesome well wayne is i had two uh posters on my wall as a kid i have wayne gretzky and mark mcguire from uh when he broke the record for the whole very odd i was not fans of either the team sounds like a 90s kid right there that's right that's right bring steroids back baby hey i had a brian dogworth poster yeah you gotta do just take steroids you get up on the wall kids aaron you just touched on the like hockey players there is like this just being like regular guys i feel like there's a beautiful culture with hockey where like if you even start to get a big head your teammates will rip you apart like ruthlessly oh immediately and that's something i've always you down one and then like with the with the cut they they like brag about their teeth being missing they'll take their teeth and they'll take their teeth and they'll they'll take their teeth and they'll take their teeth and they'll take their teeth and they'll take their teeth out at the bar and set it down on like a can and it's like it's a badge of honor at being marred for life for those guys and i i mean i can see this because i married one they're some of the best looking dudes you've ever seen like they are gorgeous but yeah like all our teeth down you're like oh well on the kings and our friends we walk around with gold prongs hanging down in the front because they're like what's the point it's just gonna get you know bashed in during the season i'll wait to the end of the year to uh to get the veneers put in but fun fact we have incredible incredible health insurance with the nhl we still you want to know what we don't have good insurance on dental no way they lobbied for it the players were like no yeah we're not we're not agreeing to dental for life no no chance i'd love to ask you guys about some of your uh current co-workers um what former player um has gone into the broadcasting world that has surprised you guys the most former player that's good um you know i had a really i'll just start while aaron thinks i i had a really unique situation with amazon because everybody except for tony had just come from playing so germ just finished playing we just finished playing and it's finished playing so they had never done tv before i remember we were in our first production in the rundown yeah it said banter in the rundown and they all look at me and they go what does that mean and i go oh jesus i was like out of the class you don't know what banter is come on pretty self-explanatory guys just start talking just shoot the shit boys but it was i have been so impressed with how i mean they have been unbelievable they have uh you know we're now in our fourth year and you would never know that these guys had never done television before uh we started doing it and they were like we started amazon so that was yeah that was that was an awesome um you know it speaks to you know do your do your homework and it shows and also the personality and also you know amazon allows you very much like fox says it's why we love working for these companies it's like be you they don't try to make you someone you're not so if fitz wants to rip his shirt off or wear a hawaiian shirt he can do that if whit wants to have his hoodie on under his jacket he can do that anyways it's just i was very impressed with those guys ability to jump in so quickly after jason as you know um you know you're done with the show so i'm going to go ahead and i'm going to go ahead and i'm playing because it looks easier than it actually is on tv everyone's like oh anyone can do it and you're like okay then come try it it's not as easy as it looks so yeah and i think we saw that with tom brady i mean i think he was the most scrutinized person to get into a booth especially last year right um and i'm proud of him i i really thought you know like you said you get in you think you can do it and it's like and i'm not saying that about tom but everyone has their opinion and and they let it be known what they thought of him and it was funny we were uh i think we were doing tampa maybe it was eagles tampa eagles week four and i was sitting in my hotel room and they were playing last year's eagles bucks game and uh i texted tv and i just said wow listening to you in this game which was your fourth game of the season versus now it's just night and day and that's a testament and i i i'm not surprised because i think all of us know what his work ethic you know was going to be heading into the job i think i'm more annoyed about how good he is and i think i'm more annoyed about how good he is and i think i'm more annoyed about how good he's gotten and how quickly i'm like come on do you do everything well this is crazy and you look fantastic he looks so good i don't i need to figure out what he's doing his hair his skin he's not going to bars jason is that what the he doesn't go to bars he doesn't go to bars i'm not willing to get that up i don't know if he's embracing the grays jason i think you embrace the grays you guys know this you've been around enough of us and and you've been around enough guys in the locker room you can tell when you see him in the locker room he's sitting down with players that you're like you'd be really good at this by the way i mean jason we were telling you that non-stop when we would deal with you in philadelphia and travel we're in your era about it as well i mean you can just tell the guys that'll be able to shine jason's been killing it one of my favorite segments jason's ever done is his uh his uh piece on the uh veteran uh he did last week yeah that was awesome yeah kept it together that was awesome um you're the very sweet they say everything happens for a reason but i suspect everything happens for a reeses like this commercial break did 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have ever had a sideline interview with lloyd carr i'll just start right here when they were mission they were losing and that michigan app state game he blew me off he didn't stop he was like peace out at halftime and i'm like i'm gonna go to the next one i'm gonna go to the next one i'm gonna go to the next one remember this was my first ever game so i was like oh shit like uh i right and then i'm like the me now i would have ran his ass down and tackled him and been like you got an obligation lloyd car mm-hmm lloyd car was my was my yeah i mean that stands out for sure um i would say coach belichick i just and not because he was ever disrespectful but you knew what you were get you would get even if they were up by 30 and i love a challenge and i remember just asking jared even texting him during the game i'm like shit i'm in my head about this like i want coach this to go well and jared would always say it's not about you this has nothing to do with you this is how it is like this is you know his demeanor on the field and because off the field i would say to coach hey how do i get you to like me and he's like what are you talking about i like you but that was just how he handled things so i i took it as a mission coach saban early in his career when i was doing college i was very like because he was very direct but then he's similar yeah yeah but uh yeah i cracked him a bit so what about what about the opposite favorite coach like who's like somebody where you're like i get to talk to him and he's just gonna kill it this is gonna be great yeah happy or sad or pissed off kyle shanahan is freaking green at halftime because he will tell you everything and he doesn't candy coat it chris and i have talked about it a lot and he'll also do it with a full-blown sprint so it's like your bra better be supportive you better have great shoes like i'm like ducking in and out of you guys sorry sorry sorry jason you know like you don't and because he's going and you better have two ready to go because that's all you're gonna get yeah yeah yeah i i mean we just talked about it i was so grateful that mike vrabel came up to set i have i never ever take for granted you guys have just played a game and you know the you've got you want to go take a shower you got you know for him he's got post-game podium stuff and all this kind of stuff so um coming up and doing an interview from him sean payton's always been great the best we worked that one year together at fox but although my man i gotta work with him he he you ask him a question and it's 40 minutes later and he has not answered the question and i'm like sean what is happening we're gonna work on him being more succinct but we love sean um mike vrabel yeah i don't know mike tomlin's another og that's just gonna always like he the lines he delivers are so he was great uh just this past week he's a classic yeah we've had an idea on the show for a boyfriend whistle whistle what do you think of this idea like almost like a boy like a whistle like you're the coach like take the trash out like what are you doing without it i don't know the idea is that men are coachable so if you need chores done around the house you just you get a whistle to get their attention to snap into line and do it or if you just mention it to them while they're doing something else it won't register yeah so the idea was to get really anything whenever they need to oh my god i'm i'm not mad at it i'm ordering a whistle right now off amazon steve you're gonna have a long night ahead of you sweetheart this thing is gonna be here in 10 minutes get going i mean steve is very coachable i will say he always just tells me to write down what i want him to do he's like i will do whatever you want to do you just have to write it down because if you just tell me while i'm doing other things i'm going to forget and then you're going to say to me you weren't listening to me because i wasn't listening to you and then you're going to say to you because i was doing other things so if i just write it down but i'm now all in on the and we'll even play a little blow the whistle in the background see i don't need that for chores in my house because mine is on me about staying uh keeping it tight so yeah there we go yeah yeah big time but yeah other things i'm down for it let us know when we can pick that up all right uh we gotta get a new heights whistle um all right when traveling with friends what makes a good travel plus one keeping track of the passport i don't want to be responsible for it i i am i'm steve is way more responsible than me so when i since we all travel a lot for work every single person on here when i travel recreationally i am at that airport bar or that airport lounge and i am ready to get in the mix so i don't want to be responsible for having to get to the gate on time i don't want to deal with the passport like i'm already on my vacation the second i get in that uber to go to the airport so like please just be responsible for me while we're at the airport and that makes a good travel partner but i think steve and jared are the same with this carissa with our vacations we've gone on like they deal with i know jared deals with the reservations he deals with the cars that are picking us up like he's very big into the schedule and hey guys we're going to do this and and sometimes a little too much like hey babe clark griswold relax we don't need to have the whole trip planned out maybe one day we sleep in i don't know he's a planner so yeah he's he's really good with that and i think i when he's not around i kind of panic like wait i have to i have to plug in my gloves myself and heat them myself and bring our stuff down to the lockers what are you talking about we have to tell so this past season we aaron and i and steve and jared did a griswold uh european vacation so we were oh yes almost yeah two weeks we were in europe together and the boys the guys planned it all they did everything so aaron and i had a talking with one another before this trip started like we are not allowed to fucking complain about a goddamn thing because the plan yes so there we go but the one night we did complain was when jared asked a teammate um former teammate who was european of where to go to dinner one night oh no we were in monaco and they were like oh my god we're going to go to dinner there was these guys there were these guys that were there on a bike they were on a uh cycling trip with a bunch of dudes okay prostitutes that showed up yep and so as we're asking these guys about their cycling trip they're like oh yeah i'm like so do you bring your own bike and they're like no and i'm like definitely a cover-up on the old cycling trip oh my god i don't even know where you go jason it's on you as a girl dad of four at some point i will have four teenage girls living under one roof is there any advice that you guys have what is just i would so i remember this vividly where i saved up my babysitting money and janko jeans were like really and then and so i came down the stairs in these janko jeans and my dad looked at me goes what the fuck are you wearing and i go jeans not in this house and i was devastated that he wasn't gonna let me dress like the skater that i wanted to dress like and whatever but he always had the thing like it's my house my rules and he was like you are not that's not we're not doing that and so i would say along those same lines where it's like you know my dad also said had this expression it's not my job to be your friend it's my job to be your parent and then when you turn 18 you get to decide if you want to be friends with me so it's like as hard as it is i'm sure because girls will like you know butter you up and all this stuff it's like you just stay and i know you and kylie are very aligned on this i've heard you say like we don't want to raise brats and you won't because and i loved that because it's like it's your i mean to send these children out into the world and be good human beings it starts at home and that is a thankless job i don't have kids i won't pretend but i just know like for me that growing up in a household with discipline but a lot of love like i knew what the rules were i knew that my parents you know like had the best intentions and like kids want boundaries they want to know like what the rules are so i would say like just even if they're girls and you feel like you got to like be a little bit lenient because they're don't it will help them later on to not just always like give them the out because they're you know little girls see it's crazy i'm running into this at my house i i didn't grow up with boys i mean i it was my sister and you know i but i know jimmy and i've been with him for a long time and i've been with and obviously had structure throughout his whole life he moved away from home when he was 14 to go play junior hockey jared is easier on mac than i am and max only two but like prime example you know he's kind of acting up yesterday and and i said jared now's your time and he's just it blows my mind because i am very much like and i i loved when you talked about disney world and your daughter and you just said i i don't want to raise that because yesterday i decided hey let's pull no you have half um because that's how i feel and so it is a real balance here but now i'm today i felt like before he left for the rink i was like wow our parenting skills like we need to get on the same you know level here but so when does that happen jason i'm curious about that we're on the same page almost all the time i would say very routinely we're both pretty disciplinarian when it comes to the girls i've seen you you're amazing yeah um but you i will say i will say the girls the only girl i grew up with is travis so this is new territory to a certain extent for me how did i catch this story in this how did i catch this story uh when i first found out i was having wyatt i was like okay i'm not gonna raise her any different than how i would raise a boy like i'm gonna make her tough and like disciplined and i'm not gonna be like this like daddy's daughter who's getting everything she wants and then like the moment she came out it was like very hard to not be that damn like it becomes very obvious exactly what you're talking about carissa where it's like it is very difficult when they look at me a certain way to not cave like instantaneously and especially those eyes on your girls my gosh and i will say kylie is better at resisting that than i am a hundred percent so i'm i could still though listen like like the waffle story if they if there's anything where it's i'll cave for like a treat or like something a bit innocuous but if it's like either being selfish or mean or lying or like any like the the big top of like we're not gonna put up with this i'll for sure like put my foot And I think in our house with the two girls, and I feel bad now for my mom with this, my dad was always like, you know, he, cause we knew, you know, dad wasn't at home during the day. It was always mom. And so we acted differently for dad. And I feel bad that I did that to my mom now. So obviously our relationships are, you know, I'm so sorry, mom, because now Mac does that to me. But yeah, no, I, I feel like you'll always be a different role with daddy. So yeah, that's interesting when you have to figure out to be the disciplinarian. I was just thinking about, and I know we all grew up in the same era where it was like, you know, we didn't have cell phones and our parents weren't like, when they would leave during summer vacation, they would leave that note, the proverbial note on the counter that was like, these were the chores for the day. And if you didn't get that shit done by the time we're home, you're in trouble. And it's like, I miss those days where it's like those, those, you know, you, again, you understood what the rules were and I'll never forget the garage door open. And I was like, my dad was home and I was like, we're all running around, you know, do all the chores. But it was like, it was the, the rules were pretty clear cut. It's like, yeah, a simpler time guys. It'll be crazy. I mean, even in the next 10 years, what our kids will be doing with, I know like AI and all that stuff. It's kind of hard to even like comprehend. I'm trying to push off the phones. Yeah. I was just thinking, even when I went to college, phones, weren't a big thing. It was like, you were real rich if you had a phone in college. And I used to drive. I mean, that's not even that far, but two and a half hours to go from Tampa to Gainesville. And my parents were good with, I didn't have a phone. Now you don't want your kid, like, you know, going down the street without a phone. It's wild how things have changed. Our dad used to give us a calling card. Did you ever have those for the pay phones? Of course. So whenever we went out to go like play baseball at the field, if we ever needed a ride or anything like that, we would go, we would pull out the card that dad gave us just to call for the pay phone. It started off though. I was, I was calling him collect just before he gave us the card. I would walk home from school in like, elementary school, middle school. And I'd call my dad, collect on a one 800 number. And he would be like, stop calling me. Get your ass home. I'm not paying for all of these calls. Stop asking me straight home. And then he, then he started thinking about it. He's like, I mean, it kind of is convenient to have a little calling card. So, uh, so that they could reach me if they need me. Can you still call people collect? I don't know. I don't even know pay phones. Where's the last time? I saw a pay phone. I don't know. Would star 69 still work? Oh yeah. We did that too. When you wanted to prank people or find out who was calling star six, seven. So they couldn't start 69. You were talking to some pros here. Did you guys ever have girls like prank call you? Like, like any price they did? Well, I know, but I mean like one that's like, cause we would prank call like all the cute boys in school. And that's like, they knew we were doing it, but prank calling. I don't remember ever getting prank calls. I just remember listening in on all the Jason's calls. Just being. Oh, what's the best. Nothing. It was never anything exciting. It was just me feeling like I was like being a spy. My sister was five years older than me and she was dating the high school quarterback. And I remember I was, I played with Barbies until I was way too old. Like somebody, my dad should have stepped in and been like, I think you're a little too old for this. It's getting weird. In the Barbie convertible in the dream house. And I was like in, you know, ninth grade. He's like, that's enough. But I remember like, I think I was in, I'm not kidding. Seventh grade. And the high school quarterback walked in my house and I was mortified. I like threw the Barbie. I was like, hi, Brad. I think the last one is we're giving you guys the floor. Since we have acclaimed journalists on the pod, we want to give you guys the chance to maybe ask Jason a question or Travis. Say, do that. Okay. So I always think about in an interview, you know, Aaron and I love doing sit down interviews for a lot of different reasons. Get to, you know, learn more about you guys. Just have that like one-on-one. Cause sometimes in games and post, it's just a different vibe when you actually get to sit down interview. But I always want to ask this question. Is there a question that you wish somebody would have asked you? And they never did. Go Carissa. God damn it. And it could be about anything. It's like, you know, cause sometimes when those interviews are over and you're like, we, this is to get in our brains. We're like, Oh God, did we ask the right questions? Did we do enough? Did we ask too many? Like, you know, did we, whatever. And then I always think like, maybe there was a question they wanted me to ask. And I didn't, I love that. I feel like I've never, I've never had that, uh, come across my mind, but I've, I've always been appreciative of when I get asked about my family. Yeah. I think that shining light on my mom, my dad, Jason, um, our supporting cast around Cleveland Heights. I feel like I've always been like, those are the questions I want to answer more than anything else about football. Cause that's, that's what's at the core of it all. Yeah. I think similar to what Travis saying, a lot of the times you're getting, you're answering questions about yourself and it feels a little bit weird when you're kind of doing that. I guess you, yeah. Like we did, we had a great, uh, interview like that. Aaron, when we, uh, we did the whole line in Philadelphia is one of my favorite, it was one of my favorite because it was with the guys. It was like, so I fell in love with all of you that day. That was so special. I think, yeah, maybe the best answer is kind of what Travis saying, either the family or like about a teammate or something like that. Those are always the ones that I really enjoy the most as like an interviewer or interviewee. I'm going to bring some humor to it. When I started in this industry, I had a lot of athletes tell me, about people that interviewed them that had really bad breath. And that always stayed in my mind. I am a psycho when it comes to breath and interviews so much. So that in my pants, any of my pants that I am wearing during a game, there are two Listerine like containers and even the spray. And if I don't have them, I am like begging the trainers for something. I am begging the guys, the camera guys, anything in my nose teeth. And then, I have a story. I interviewed Ryan Howard one time and I took in the Listerine thing there. They were stuck together. So I think there was like four of them in and I took it and my breath was so fresh. It hit him in the eye and I said to him, Oh my God, are you crying? And he goes, no, but your breath is so fresh. I think we've all had that experience of bad breath and it is, it's difficult to carry on a conversation. There's definitely some guys I could throw under the bus, I won't do it, but yeah, I think of opposing players when you guys are talking so close. That's my one thing. I'm like, Oh God, their breath must be tough. Um, but yeah, you don't think about it during the game, huh? Have you noticed it ever on the field? I've more noticed my own teammates. You're sitting next to somebody in meetings and then all of a sudden it's like, God damn it. He's having a day today. Like nothing worse than somebody ripping ass in the huddle though. You know, it happens like three or four times. Like, all right, listen, man, you got to get this under control. This is ridiculous. Sitting right next to you like the difference of sometimes not all. Cause Aaron and I are very honest with each other. But the difference between men and women is two guys walk into a party with the same shirt on and they come up to each other and like, look fucking great, man. Look at that shirt. What a great shirt. You walk into a party with the same dress and they're on opposite ends going, that bitch looks terrible in this dress. God damn. It's so different. It's like men would be like, bro, you're, your breath is awful. So here's a man. And women would just like skirt around it and be like, anyone want a mint? No, you're talking to Sarah over here. So you guys are the fucking best. This was so much fun. I can't tell you more here than we've left in a long time. Exactly. You guys are the best. Seriously. And congrats on the success. Like we, you know, us, you know, as Aaron and I haven't come from this world, from a long time ago, sitting with you guys in that random warehouse in Cleveland, like we just were your biggest fan. So love you guys. You're the best. Bye you guys. Thank you. And that wraps up another episode of new heights. That's right. Thank you to Carissa Thompson and Aaron Andrews. And also make sure you subscribe to the new house channel on YouTube and follow new heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. You can listen to new episodes of new heights ad free right now by joining one replay plus in the one react or on Apple podcasts. I'd be remissed if I didn't give my Jimmy's a shout out, shout out to Jared and Steve, baby for life, man. Once again, new heights is a wonder show brought to you by K F C go down the street. It's right down the street. Ladies and gentlemen, get you a famous bowl. You just some fried chicken and enjoy a nice meal. 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