Erin Andrews: NFL Sidelines, Setbacks, & Surrogacy

(swoosh) (upbeat music) - What is up, Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper, with call her Daddy. - Aaron Andrews, welcome to Caller Daddy. - Thanks for having me. - You are a lead NFL sideline reporter, and you really have inspired so many women who are navigating male dominated industries, which I guess is every single industry at this point in life. Also, I love the fact that you know more about football than any man that I know in my life, and it makes me so happy to be sitting with you today. I also can't wait to talk to you just about your career and all the things, so thank you for spending the time with me. - Thank you for saying all those nice things. Do you get awkward when people pay you compliments with your vibes? - Oh yeah, I like you. I'm already sweating from the armpits. - We've got a lot to take in here. - That's what my therapist tell me is, she's like, you have to learn how to take a compliment, but it's uncomfortable. We're gonna get through it today, don't worry. - Should I lay down? - No, just relax. - It's a cow. - It's a cow. - It's just relax, because I'm pregnant and you're you, and we're gonna have a good time. - Great. - It's September, which means NFL season is upon us. - It's upon us, baby. - How are you feeling? - I'm stressed. We just did a perspective. It's not like bringing your first child in your life, which girl get ready for the stories. I was already thinking yesterday as I was walking through lazy acres with this child. I was like, wait till I tell Alex what it's like walking with a kid and just being with a child, things I never anticipated. We just went through a move. We're not done with it yet. I didn't anticipate what kind of stress that was. I guess people have it ranked having a baby. I don't know if marriage is up there. Probably, you know, lose it while let's get dark right now. Losing a loved one. Moving is like one of the top three, four, five stressors. - It's a lot. - Holy shit. I didn't anticipate. Good morning, acne. How are you? - You're not feeling pain. - No, I don't have them. And then of course I have like football around the corner. So it's a lot all at once, but thank God it's here because it's always like Christmas, you know, it is Christmas morning. - It feels like Christmas to you. - Yeah. - Okay, that's exciting. And then I can't help but think, do your friends allow you to be in the fantasy leagues with them? Like are you in a fantasy league? - No. - You're not. - No, and we have one, you know, as a group of friends, but I don't, first of all, I can't, I can't, I do care. I think I know too much, but I also am like, I wouldn't know when to get, you know, the players in and all that kind of stuff. Now, my husband's friends do pressure me for information. - I was gonna ask you, are they then coming to you being like, give us the tea, Aaron, like who do you think is gonna be? And what do we do? - Everybody deals with that in sports broadcasting. They're just like, what do you know? And nothing, could you know what? I'm not getting fired and I'm not getting you any information and there are paper trails. So stop texting me. - Leave me alone. - Oh, no. - Okay, that's good. But maybe you tell your husband a couple things. Just to give them all one up. You're like, nope. I think he also knows better not to ask me 'cause I'm just like, I don't have time for this. - No, it's true. Okay, that's actually fair. I would love if I could give my husband any insight. So that's why I'm like, oh my God, like can't you give him something in me? Well, you're like, I'd give him nothing. - How hardcore is he? - He has a big group that he's been doing it with it for years and Matt doesn't really care, but he won his last year. - Should I come over during the draft? - Maybe, maybe, because I feel like now, Matt's like, I won last year, now I gotta really get into this and care more. - Yeah. - And so I think now there's a little ego involved where he's like, ooh, let's see if I can do it again. And I have nothing to give him. I'm like, who's that? 'Cause I don't know names, I know team, sure. What's it like being married to somebody that's obsessed with it and won? What are Sundays like? 'Cause I know what Sundays are like with me. I think that his dad is more obsessed. My husband's not obsessed with sports. He likes them. - Okay. - But he has friends that are obsessed and it makes me actually more thankful that he's not obsessed. - Okay. - It gives me the yik when men are a little too obsessed and I'm like, well, like, go then get on the field and you couldn't do any of that and then they're screaming at the television. They're like, why did you miss that? And I'm like, bro, you and your beer belly and you haven't worked out in 19 years but you have an opinion on how we should have tackled him, let's move forward. - Yeah. (laughing) - As a sideline reporter, I also am fascinated by like, you kind of gotta be in a little bit of shape here because you're not just standing there. Sometimes I see you running down the sideline with your camera crew to like get in on an interview. - Yeah. - Do you have any like pre-game rituals or anything that you're doing to like mentally psych yourself up before the camera starts and game day begins? - Oh, hell yeah. Well, first of all, let's talk about what goes on on the sidelines. You were so right. You just have to, look, you have to be, yeah, in shape because you're on your feet for think about it like four and a half hours which is wild, another thing that's difficult. You may have a fantastic outfit but baby girl, you are wearing flats because if I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. - I know, 'cause like a heel would be so cute, like a booted heel. - So fantastic. Even a little heel on your boot because let me tell you, let me set this scene. You've got a field, you've got wires, you've got cameras, you've got 300 pound men, you have benches, you have trainers, you have a quit, you have trunks, you have, there is so much that you are high stepping, tip towing, point chewing on. It is banana land. - I never wanna heal. - I can't, I would sink. - Are you in your career? - No, I just, yeah, and I'm pretty much a tomboy anyways and I like to be comfortable on my feet. I've done a pointed shoe. I feel so like fantastic and stylish. I'm like, give me the sneaker, give me the sneaker back. It's hard 'cause totally. - I hate being uncomfortable, I hate being cold, I hate being hot. So I gotta be comfortable out there. But it sucks. So yeah, that's why, I mean, being in shape is a big one. Pre-game rituals, I call my dad. I know you're close with your dad. My dad was in the news industry forever and ever and ever. I talked to him about my stories. I talked to him about what's going on with the game. Kind of give him the tee, the gossip, 'cause he doesn't have a fantasy league. And eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich 'cause it's really, I mean, eat a hardy breakfast, like Thurk breakfast. - Oh my God, right, 'cause then you're like, probably just like snack, you can't even snack that much. - Yeah, I don't know how to lie. - Interesting. - Yeah, oh my God, you're, 'cause I gotta get two dads because that's really cute, but I also am thinking about him like getting that call every time, that's like a very sweet father-daughter thing that you have in that bond. - Yeah, it's special. - What is one of the craziest things that's has happened to you on the sidelines? - Craziest thing, I mean, there was an interview I did at the NFC Championship, this wasn't crazy, but we hadn't seen something like this happen before. It was my interview post game with Richard Sherman. When the Seattle Seahawks were trying to make it to the Super Bowl, NFC Championship, Seattle versus San Francisco, he made a game-saving play. I interviewed him about the play, and he just went off about the other player. It's, he was, and people took it like he was screaming at me. Like it was, first of all, I could kill my, like my whole delivery with him. I was like, take me through the play, and he was like, well, I'm the best corner in the game. And I had this face, Alex, where I was like this, and people took it like he was scaring me. No, I was thinking to myself, holy shit. What is my next question? Because it better be good, 'cause this is going viral. And it did. There were Halloween costumes made about it. Barack Obama talked about it in a speech. It was wild. It was one of the coolest things. But I've gotten, like, you talked about the sidelines. I've gotten almost run over by a player where I did, in fact, I ran, ran, ran. He was coming at full force, and you do have to be so aware on the sidelines, 'cause it's dangerous. I remember before I, I didn't fall, holding almost onto the ground with my toes, like gripping, gripping, gripping. We went to break. They played it in slow-mo for my crew only to watch, and I laughed so hard I peed my pants. That's amazing. So I just did. So that was like being screamed out by a player who was so passionate and organic that it never happened before, and then peeing my pants from laughing, almost falling over with a player hitting me. - It's interesting here, and you say that though, because at an interviewer in those moments, where you're like, this is the last thing that I thought was going to happen. And the fact that everyone is judging, thinking, you're looking like that, because you're like, oh my god, he's screaming. And meanwhile, you're like, Aaron, you better think of the best follow-up right now. You have maybe 10 seconds to get it together, and you're spiraling in your head just quickly, racking your brain with what is the best thing, and all the training you've done to prepare for this moment, and all the things that you could have prepped, he went completely rogue. And so now you have to go rogue. Like, that's such a high though when that happens, but then you also were like, oh my god, and then afterwards you're like, did I ask the right thing? Did I do the right thing? - Yeah, and I ended up sounding like a crazy fan and whatever, but you're exactly right. You prepped, you prepped, you prepped, I walk around. I almost say like with a trapper keeper or a binder of just this much of notes, I don't even use a quarter of it, you know? And the best stuff is the stuff you didn't prepare for. - Of course, of course. - Okay, I wanna get your rapid fire thoughts on a few football things. - Oh boy. - Which team has the most intimidating fans? - Well, I know you're an Eagles fan. - Yeah. - They are very intimidating. They are as advertised. I will say, have you been to a game in Seattle? - No, wow. - Oh, really? - Wild, loud. Like, oh! - Yeah, they bring it, they bring it. - It is wild, loud. - I mean, rightfully so, there's team is amazing. - Yeah. - I feel like I had such a unique experience growing up with Philly being my teams because I didn't know anything else. And then I went to school in Boston, So it's like pretty. crazy to there. So I just always thought that was normal. Then I moved to LA and I was like, what's going on? What's good? Why is everyone sitting? Why is everyone calm and just being kind of crazy? I'm like at the Dodger game and everyone's just like, it's different breed, right? It's different energy. Who do you think are the nicest fans? The nicest Packers, Dallas. Yeah, just, yeah Midwest, Southern. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Okay. Have you been to a Packers game? No. Go in January, too. Don't come on, girl. You're pretty filling. You can do that. Those are like minus temperatures, minus 10, minus 20. Oh, why don't they live that life in Boston? I know, I know a couple of things of how to prepare and the heat warmers and your feet, the whole thing. Oh, yeah. Who has the best touchdown celebration in the league? Oh, gosh. Well, that's really hard to say because guys come up. They actually choreograph them and think of them. I mean, you have guys sometimes bowling. You have guys sometimes rolling. They do like duck walks. I think they're a hoot. I love them so much when they're a whole choreographed situation. Yeah, I feel like I'm back on dancing with the stars, dancing the touchdown celebration. Oh, yeah. So good. Seven. I actually love that voice. That was actually really good. Yeah, I hated it when I was being judged, but that's fine. But you got through it. Yeah, I got through it. Not with a lot of high scores, but that's okay. You crushed. What has been the best halftime performance of all time in your opinion? Well, I was there when I thought Shakira was amazing. I thought Lady Gaga was amazing, but I have to be honest. Dolly Parton at the Thanksgiving game in Dallas. And I was so jealous because we weren't there for that. I'm a huge Dallas cowboy cheerleader fan. And the fact that girls got to dance with her and the fact she came out in the DCC outfit. And now the latest news. I'm just. Yeah. And royalty. Royalty forever. Dolly Parton. We love you. You're always in our hearts like that. What? Know you're so right. Yeah. We love, love, love. Who are you dying to see perform at the Super Bowl? It's a fair question. I wanted an all country Super Bowl act. And I thought it would be cool to start from like speaking of Dolly, like the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s have the bangers and then have like a current country come out. I think that would be sick. No, no, no, that would be cool because I was there when it was like snoop 50s and Eminem. That was insane. I was like, this is the most baller thing I've ever seen. Like that was pretty amazing. I went back. I was there live and I watched it and it was fantastic. But then when you watched it back on TV because it was obviously choreographed for the people at home, it was so phenomenal. Even in the beginning, this is stupid, but I noticed things like this. Like, Dre is like, you know, messing with his IFBE to turn up. I was like, this is just sick. And he's just cool. And he's playing it. It's like it was so awesome. It was it was a really good one. Okay, let's go back. You referenced to your father who I wanted to bring up because I don't, yes, I don't know if everyone knows this, but sports and reporting have been in your blood like you referenced. Your dad was an investigative reporter and also a sports fan. Yeah. When did you know that you wanted to kind of follow in his footsteps? I knew pretty early because that was our way of bonding. He loved the Boston Celtics. Loves the Red Sox. And loved the Green Bay Packers because at the time the Patriots weren't great. And my dad said they were always blacked out in his area. So he would watch the Green Bay Packers because they were good. And networks would hold their games. Patriots, if a team is bad, if people don't understand that, if a team is bad, it's not going to a mass audience. You know, you're going to follow the teams that are good. Like we start with the Eagles this year. So my dad loves sports. And my dad is a great storyteller. And he always would tell me stories about the players and the coaches. And I learned about Magic Johnson and Larry Burn and my dad would tell stories where I would think they were my friends. So when I would meet these people in real life, I would talk to them even now like my friends and embarrass the shit out of myself. Billy, who are you? And you're like, we go way back. You know, what's really interesting because I had a similar experience with my dad was a sports television producer for the flyers. So cool. And who were his announcers then? Jim Jackson, Keith Jones and Bill Clement. Yeah. And I remember getting to go to the television truck and running around NHL, you know, stadiums. And like that was the normal watching my father do this job that he loved so much. And it seems similar with your dad where like they had such a passion that I recognize is such a privilege because there are also people that watch their parents grow up and the job is the job and they're happy when they get home because they don't love the job where our father's passion was their purpose and their career. How do you think your dad's career just kind of shaped the way that you recognize what was possible for yourself? My dad did this six and 11 o'clock news in Tampa, Florida. We would go after the six o'clock news and meet him at the television station to pick him up and go to dinner on some nights. So like you being in the production truck, I would go run around the set meet met the makeup girl learned about the dark Mac liner with the the lighter lipstick and I thought it was a vibe. So being on a set being in front of the camera wasn't a big deal for me. What was cool for me and what my dad shared with us was knowing the stories, making it personable and that's what I love so much about the guys that I get to cover is and why I get so emotional covering them or if a guy goes down or if a team loses, you know how hard they work. Do you know they work their ass off? You know they're coming back from ACL surgery or injury or their wife is at home having a baby or something like that. So I think trying to just tell people at home the stories about these guys. My dad was so good at that and that's what he you know brought into my life. Yeah. There were not a lot of other women in this industry when you started in 1935. Yeah. You're like back in the age. Way back in the day with Laura Ingles. No, but it's it's true. Even you hear when I was referencing, you know, the announcers that worked with my dad every single one was a man, right? But that industry was very male dominated. Was it intimidating at all for you to be like, I'm a woman going to try to get into sports? Yeah, I didn't know this because I was so pumped to just have a seat at the table. And then I remember when I got, you know, I started out in hockey, but when I got the job at ESPN, I just said yes to everything because I was I just wanted to do everything I could. I was so excited. I wasn't married. I didn't have a life. This was my life. And yeah, I didn't really notice the fact that there weren't women because I was there and I was so focused on doing what I was doing. Of course. And you're so young that I agree totally that feeling of you're not even a good way. Yes. You're just so happy to be there and be a part of it. And like, you're not going to ask questions. You're just like, I'm happy to be here. Tell me where to go. Yeah. Um, your first job was with the Tampa Bay Lightning. Yeah. So you're in the NHL. You make the transition over to the MLB. Yeah. I was so this is what it what a life. And you look back on stuff when you're younger and you're so naive and you don't understand what an opportunity it was and and all that kind of stuff. I was right out of college. The Tampa Bay Lightning were the worst team in the league. And they wanted a female presence, right? For their audience. And I got the gig. And I didn't know shit about hockey. I didn't. Hockey was new to Tampa Bay. It just was. And my dad took me to the fairgrounds back in the day. And I would go to see lightning games. But I was coming from Florida. I was Florida Gator football. It's all I cared about. Um, and I got the job. And I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. Red cliff notes for dummies as embarrassing as that is. But I will say the coach at the time, uh, John Torturella, he took me under his wing. He's a very, very like hard nose coach. And he was that way with me. And it was so awesome to have early in my life because he taught me, asked hard questions, study your tail off. And let's go. Like don't look back. And so that was incredible. Then from there, I got a call from Turner Sports. They had the Atlanta Braves. They had MLB at the time. And I was hosting a studio and I was frigging terrible. I was so, so bad. I called my dad every night and cried. I felt like I was way, you know, over my skis. Um, I wasn't good. I knew I wasn't good. It was killing me. And they let me go after two years. And they should have. I wasn't, I wasn't put in the best position to succeed. And I wasn't, for some reason, it wasn't working for me. I knew they were letting me go. And the NHL was still on ESPN and the Atlanta thrashers had a team. And I was like, I'm going to go get a job. I knew that the broadcasters, very much a broadcaster thing after a game would go get a cocktail in a bar. Hell yeah. I knew the bar that they were at. I knew my contract was up. I went right to that bar after the thrashers game that ESPN was covering. And I just said, Hey, I'm Aaron Andrews. I need a job. Um, my contract's up. You guys have the playoffs. Who do I talk to? Look at, I mean, networking. You're like, that is a perfect example. And I'll take a tub double tequila. Thank you so much on the rocks. No, I'm kidding. Yeah. But like, and look where that got you. Yeah. So I had it. I had a phone interview. I think a couple of days later, I did it. I crushed it. Again, I did verbal diarrhea, verbal vomit told them everything I knew about the NHL because I just worked, you know, with the Tampa Bay Lightning. I got the gig for the playoffs. Guess who won the Stanley Cup that year? - Who? - The Tampa Bay Lightning. - The team I started for. - Like, oh my god, they were so bad when I started. - I know they wanted. I'm interviewing on my parents or center ice and I signed a three-year deal with the SPN and kind of blew up from there. - I mean, I think that's why I love talking to people about the origin days because we see you as Erin Andrews, right? And we're like, oh my god, you are such an icon. You've done so much and you're at the top of your game and it's almost like no one can fathom you being in a situation where you don't feel in control and you don't hold that mic and do your job as perfectly as we see you do it now. But I think it's inspiring, especially for young women watching, to hear you talk about, I had no idea what I was doing. I had to make specific moves to show up to a bar and also just like try to get the job and sometimes you have to put yourself in positions that are really uncomfortable, get yourself out of your comfort zone and then also half of it is just like winging it. You didn't know exactly how to do the job, but you're like, once I got the job, I just read about it and I figured it out and I think that's such a good life lesson to anyone watching, right? - I think now more than ever and you see it in people that you work with, people that you hire, people that are trying to come up in the industry, work your ass off. It's just the number one thing. I don't know. Look, that's what helped me and I know that's what impressed the people at ESPN at the time is that I was just like, hey, I'm showing up at a bar. Can I get a job? No, he said I knew where they were. I seek them out. My dad was always on me. Email them. Ask them if they're looking for anybody new. No, dad, I don't want to. I tell young girls at all the time, send an email, send a text, stay on the top of their inbox, remind them, show people you want to work. That's like when I said I went to ESPN, I just said yes to everything because I was like, I'm not married. I don't have kids. I love doing this, but I didn't realize it was helping my stock. I was putting money in the bank in terms of like, oh, she can cover college basketball, she can cover college football, she can do major league baseball, she can do the spelling bee, although she can't spell. Just all that shit, it makes you more valuable. It shows people you want to work. That's all companies want. It's a hard worker and somebody that'll just be like, I'm here. I can do it. What do you need? When I interviewed Katie Kirk, we talked about how women often have to work twice as hard to get just as far. What has your experience with that been like in your career now in hindsight of where you're sitting? I agree with that, but I agree with it from a standpoint. I feel like I have to work five to six times harder because I didn't play the game I'm reporting on. So I don't know what a team is going through in the locker room when they're down 28 to three in the Super Bowl because I've never done it. I don't know the adjustments to make. I don't know what it's like. I don't even know when those guys go to the bathroom or how much they can eat. So I feel like it is very, very important for me to talk to guys, have guys feel comfortable players, coaches, owners feel comfortable with me so they can relay that information. That's why I have to work twice as hard. Now there was a time that and I think this has everything to do because I care so much because I know it is a male populated industry because I know I feel like I'm proving myself and that's my chip on my shoulder. You're around these athletes. They always have a chip on their shoulder of like getting taken late in the draft or teams passing up on them. My chip on my shoulder, not that anyone's made me feel that way is that I didn't play. I got to show people still at the age I am. I belong. I screwed up on there a couple years ago and I had someone pull me aside on the sidelines and say, did you say this and I said, oh my god, I miss not misspoke. I said it wrong. Like I added a word that made it seem something else. I asked my producer if he heard it. He said, I don't think so. Texted my dad on the sideline and I said, did I say that? And he goes, I don't think so. But he goes, let me go back and watch. And he texted me and he said, you did the chest tightness and palpitations I had. And I said to my producer, I need to address this. He goes, Aaron, we're in the third quarter. I said, I have to. I don't want this coach to look like this. So I came back on Aaron. I apologize. I didn't sleep for two weeks. And that's not because I'm a woman. That is because I care so freaking much. Of course. And I don't want to piss anyone off. You know, of course. And I think that makes me really happy to hear too because I have felt like that in my career too. You go between, do you share how much work you put into it? Do you not? Sometimes people don't also want to hear how much work goes into it. And so it's a weird thing. But I do think there's nothing better than feeling so prepared. But you're going to make mistakes. And obviously it is a lot more pressure when you have mistakes where the entire nation is breathing down your throat. And you're like, I'm sorry. And you just talked about how passionate fan bases are. So I should, as I'm sitting here having like a therapy moment with myself, say, give myself some grace. I'm not performing brain surgery. But these are these men's lives. You know, no, it's true. So I should go easier. But damn. And I do get nervous, Del. You, I shake before my first hit. I get 20 seconds. Maybe the first hit, maybe 15. And you'll see me on this sideline. So I'm talking to myself and people are staring. I'm like, I'm doing it in my head over and over. And it doesn't come out that way when I do it. But and there's thoughts when I'm looking in the camera, I sound possessed right now. I'm like, Oh my god. Don't mess this up. Get through this. Get through this. Get through this. Who's ankle? Am I talking about? Oh my god. Yes. I got through lacking out. Yeah. And then full black cameras. And you're like, and I've done this for a hundred years. No, no, no. That's why it's like meeting you where you're at right now. That's why it's so fascinating to talk to you about it because you have hindsight and you have the perspective. But you also, it's so fascinating hearing you still be in this position and being like, Oh, I still get stress. I still get anxious because it's adrenaline. And it's still the nailed it. I was going to say it's a sick high. Yes. Like it is a sick high. Yeah. I don't know what it is. It's probably not good for my, you know, nervous system. But damn, it's sick. You're doing great. Fine. You know what I love so much to is you, your perspective on this career is so healthy and you're so secure in yourself. And how you present is I try. You're like, I'm showing up because I'm so confident who I am. I've got my dad since a young age. This is my, this is my bread and butter. Like I'm going to work my ass off. And then there's the sad realities of things that then you couldn't control that happened in your life that came with all of this publicity and and just being a woman in this industry early in your career, you faced an unimaginable violation of your privacy when you had a stalker. If you are comfortable, obviously, can you just explain to the younger women, maybe who aren't as familiar, like what happened? Yeah. I think back in the day, you know, before, remember when the Apple phones were getting hacked and people's photos were up and so forth, I had this disgusting person following me around cities. It was very well publicized where college game day was going to be. We're Thursday night football was going to be. And I didn't have an alias. I didn't think I was a big deal. I didn't, you know, who wants to, who cares about what name I'm checking under? And that's as you know, the sad realities of of what we do for a living. There's a lot of amazing things. But when you deal with security, it's, it's a different level. So I found out I remember my contract was a, no, my contract was an app. I was going to get a new agent, you know, when you go to the agent meetings and dancing with the stars was calling and they wanted me to put things were going good. You know, I was working backstage at the SB's. I think Justin was hosting. Like it was just fun. I can already remember the dress I was wearing to your God. So I got, I came back from a bunch of meetings and I got a call from my friend who was working a blog at the time. Blogs were the big deal. And he had been calling me all day and he just said, Aaron, I have to talk to you. And I was like, what's up? I'm getting on a red eye to go back to Atlanta. And he's like, there's naked video of you all over the internet. And I said, no, there's not, I don't do that. I just don't. And I didn't, you know, I was like, what are you talking about? This is made up. This is something that's not me. And he got really, really upset and he goes, Aaron, I'm sending it to you. And I looked at it and I said, I have to go. I call my mom and dad right away. I was screaming crying because it was me and it was me naked in a hotel room walking around. And I just out of body experience started screaming. My dad said, when I called, he thought I was in a car accident because I was screaming so hard. And we talked about how much, like, I love the job, how I liked kind of being the girl next door. And I just said to my dad, it's over. My career's over. Like, no one's going to take me seriously ever again. That's all I ever wanted, right? Was people to turn on me on and just say, oh my gosh, I would love to have a beer with her and talk football with her. I would love to do a sit-down interview with her. And I just thought, this is so dirty. No one's going to ever want to work with me again, talk to me again. This is gross. This changes who I am. We didn't know anything at that point. Come to find out after a whole investigation. The FBI gets a There's a trial. There was this disgusting person following me around and he was setting up his cell phone right up to my hotel room He would take off the people At the door he would ask for a room next to me and the hotel never alerted me that this was happening So they would put this person next to me He would wait and listen and he could tell when I was getting into the shower because he could hear it And he would stay on there with a camera and he filmed me getting ready and then he put it on the internet And as you know when something's on the internet, it doesn't come down So it was a lot. It was a lot that I Yeah, put my family through with all of it. It was a lot legally. It was wild. I am so Sorry. Oh, thank you, and I know it's been a long time But I think oh there's parts of it that still just with me, you know who I was gonna say because I can like see it in your face It's like it will never when you are violated that way like I have sat with So many women. I just sat with a woman recently who was telling me how you know this person was threatening to release these photos and it was like You you don't you will never get over it because you're brought right back to that moment and you can remember how you felt How did you though like handle the violation like if you look back? What did you feel within your own body? Yeah, I'm like just gross Gross like wishing in my own hotel room. I had worn a towel like you're getting ready for a game. What are you talking about? shame I remember Walking around stadiums. This is when I was doing college. So some stadiums have a hundred thousand people thinking Everybody in the stadium has seen me naked and I didn't have a choice Just if I would talk to people I feel like in the back of their head. They're thinking about it But my safe place and I am so proud of this Was the football field which is wild because you're sitting there and you're reporting to 20 million people and how is that your safe place? But it's been for a lot of stuff. I mean the week I was diagnosed with cervical cancer and then had to have You know a pretty evasive surgery. They said don't go on the field and stand on the field because you're not really capable physically I was like this is my safe space So that's how I dealt I threw myself right back into work wild conversation the night He was arrested. I was in a hotel room by myself. I got a call from The gentleman that from the FBI and they said we got him. We just got on a plane and got him and my dad and I were like what? And they were like Unfortunately, we have to release this entire document because he's just been arrested and it's gonna come out in an hour But we wanted to give you guys a heads up. I had a game the following day at noon I think it was like a or probably a one o'clock kick and my dad and I we didn't know the specifics of where he followed me and it all was out On public record in this whole like you know document and I'm like dad I have to go study for the Tennessee volunteers Auburn Tigers game right now and my dad's like, okay Okay, you know so much wild stuff with that. Well, it's wild too Aaron because I feel like people This wasn't something that was like they were almost like familiar with this kind of violation and you're right It was starting up with that. I did it myself and that was the biggest part. That's what I was gonna ask you about because Let's talk about the public's perception right because first we there were no laws at the time to protect women from any of this So this was a very new concept to people kind of like now Equating it to now is like AI. Yes, there are no laws Could not keep up with technology and yeah, so take me back. What do you remember the Public's response at first being I did it to myself that I was on the cover of Newspapers just a still frame of the video my naked body and it said ESPN's Gandalf People thought I did it to myself for publicity or to you know help my career Which was the exact opposite of how I was feeling. I was feeling shame like I would never get work again I would never be taken seriously and it was perceived which is So sad. That's why I was gonna ask like to be so Misrepresented and and to have to have the truth be so Far from what the public is believing like how did you cope with that when you're reading people be like she did this I did I left my home in Atlanta I went to go stay with my mom and dad and I hid in my high school bedroom. I Thinkful at the time I wasn't on air yet. I wasn't going back until college football But yeah, I hid the crazy part now is just kind of seeing how the world and perception and how people aren't you know Judge like this if a crime like this had happened. It would have been a totally different situation It's like every era it's somewhat changes But then also I'm like oh like kind of but like sometimes it really is people do not want to believe No, and they want to believe that the woman is somehow responsible for leaking this What about your employer at the time like were they supportive? How did people that you worked with respond? Yeah, you know, I feel like in any situation Whether it's been my me being so public about infertility issues my cervical cancer what happened? You know with my stalking incident even the trial that I had after that where I went after the hotel You find out pretty fast who's in your corner and you don't forget the people that reach out and the people that don't You know that yes. Yeah. Yeah, it teaches you a lot though. It really makes you realize who Who your OGs are and I will say this as difficult as a topic as those topics are all being a woman I have some of the best male like friends co-workers bosses in my life and I'm so grateful for that no and I that makes me so happy because I agree I think like In all this these issues you don't want to alienate the men There are so many incredible men that actually can help you in these moments But when these moments happen to a woman it's like you your entire life felt like it was crumbling from what a man did to you You did nothing wrong. Yeah, nothing wrong. Yeah, like you said the fact that you went through oh should I have worn maybe a towel in my hotel? No, I know it's crazy though It took me really long time to accept that I still need to continue therapy over it because little things will happen We're like the PTSD of it comes up and you're like holy shit. That's from all of it. Thank you for sharing I just think the Conversation in general. I just wanted to have and you just so eloquently put all of it of just like we go through these things in life that you in that moment all the way back to saying My career's over look where you're sitting you have never been more successful you have such a Fruitful business and life and family life and you got through all of that and I think in the moment a lot of times Especially even we see as kids are growing up right now with the internet and things and revenge for it is like You really can believe that your life is over in a moment. Yeah, that feels so much weight and Understandably but then it will pass it will pass you shouldn't have had to go through that But the way that you got through it like you said you leaned on your family You had some incredible men in the industry who were there to support you and you kept doing your fucking job and showing up Yeah, and look hotels. I have to go about things differently like you know, I mean luckily a lot of hotels had to watch my trial And see changes need to be made in security, you know, measures and so yeah, it's amazing During that time one of the positives is you met your now husband former NHL player Jared Stoll How did you two meet through Michael straight hand? What I mean can I do this guy? I mean, I don't have her job to this dude's resume. I mean this guy Good looking great friend, you know, so smart Super Bowl champ Paula Famer. Yeah, he's the best. I left ESPN to go work for Fox and I Was working the baseball playoffs at the time and Michael said to me, hey, there's a guy He's a friend of mine and he wants to meet you and I was just like okay Well, is this is this would you recommend or yes or no? And he was like I would so I said okay like you know figured out that's fine If you if you're vetting for me Michael's tray hand, I will accept your Your suggestion so I you know touch base, but I'm busy Cruel I'm busy. I am working the playoffs and it is a good series It is the San Francisco Giants versus the Detroit Tigers. Let's go like it's good. I'm busy So I it is the world series. They had he had just won the Stanley Cup and they are I guess the NHL was locked out at the time He told me he was gonna be at the game in San Francisco and I said cool Well, I'll see you like whatever Aaron you're like I have a hell of a pitching matchup tonight Jared still I could care less if you're showing up Let's see if you can do it and Next thing I know I am in the dugout and you know, I think the I think I was on the Giants side and you know, here's the Giants and I'm in their dugout and I hear this guy go Aaron and like yeah, and he got down there he walked Walked Packs past security. I think athletes will tell you any athlete knows how to get and talk their way through any sort of like sporting venue. Hockey players, they all say dress in all black and walk in with a Starbucks and loafers. Like, you know, they're little gays and all that. I don't know how he did it. But I was like, okay, okay. And he was like, nice to meet you. Funny story about this. I had had a raging sinus infection at the time. And I, it wasn't a booger. It was almost like some sort of like, sore from blowing my nose was on my nose. And I was kind of like looking over at him, but I was like trying to stay like this. So it was like shielding like the sore covered in like, probably some sort of our money foundation with a powder situation. It's like great to see you. Great. And he's like, we're going out later if you want to go out. No, because I have like this. You're like, you have good things. So great. But great to meet you. Congrats on the cup. Yeah, and then there you go. Wait, and didn't you like basically turn him down the wet first? I was busy. I had the world series. I don't know. Like, you know, finally one night I was out and I said, do let's go to dinner. We went to dinner and all that. Okay, fair. And got up a few times. Yeah, fair, fair. I feel like hockey is having such a moment right now. Good for them. I know, right? Like it's, well, we know you know how great it is, but people that don't know get involved. It is growing up. It is the number one sport that was played in my household because of my father, and it's just such a good sport. But now seeing it get the praise because of all the television shows that have popped off, it is really fun. But for research purposes only, okay. The girls need to know, Aaron. What is it like to date a hockey player? They are the best. They are the best. And any NFL players, because obviously I'm around a lot of them and friends with some of them are like hockey guys are the best. They're so laid back, as you know, A. comes out of my mouth all the time. I'll be honest, hockey players are good looking. They are gorgeous. Great, but yes, fantastic. Started their shoulders, some of them, you know. They're just the best. They're so chill. They're great guys to go to the bar with. They're great guys. They're just, they're the best. They look down to earth. Down to earth. A lot of them are farm boys. A lot of them from small, small towns. It's funny to make fun of the stories 'cause they're all the same. It's my best girlfriends or all the wives that were on the King's teams while we were together. And, you know, we were weeding out some of our crap in our house and not that this stuff is crap, but he was like going through the other day, sitting on the driveway and like the boxes his mom and dad had saved it for him. And he's like, he pulled this thing out and it looked like a meatloat for like a pile of bronze poop. And I was like, what's that? It was, it's Buffalo babe, one of the MVP in 1996 at this Ontario, whatever. And so I took a video of it and I sent it to my girlfriends that, you know, their husbands played with mine. And I just said, you guys have this stuff at home and they're like, yeah, we all do, you know? Like you're like, oh, great. Are we supposed to put this on the mantel? Like where am I supposed to put this thing? Oh my God. Did he have all of his teeth when he met him? No, he still doesn't. Oh, okay. No, they're fake. Perfect. But I mean, my best friends husbands like have a flipper still. Some of them that they're still playing the vibe is, you know what, like, I'm gonna get him hit again so I won't get fake teeth. That's what a lot of girls ask me. They're like, well, if I date a hockey player or they're gonna have teeth, no. And you know what, it's pretty hot. It is, you know what, it is. And it's part of the charm. It's the charm. He also has, sorry babe, I'm telling all your secrets. He has this black dot right here. It's pretty good size. He's like, I feel like people think it's a black head. It's a stitch. When he got his nose like slash by a stick, he got, you know, obviously stitched up, but one of the stitches didn't dissolve. So now it's like a purple, black, like, forever mole. Like badge on it. Do we want to get this taken out at all or? Did you try? No. If it was me, I'm like, you know, Miss, like, I get in there. Right. And he's just like leaving it. That's such a man thing to do. You're like, you don't want to just, he's like, no, it's fine. You're like, okay. You and your husband seem to be a really great team. You guys obviously work so much, you're traveling. Yeah. And then your son, Matt, you have together. Let's talk about your journey to my bad mood. Because I know it was a long and challenging one. Oh, yeah. Can you just share more about that process and what it was like for you? Yeah. So, I mean, when, look, I got married later on in my life. We tried to have a baby later on in my life, but I kind of knew in my, like, 35, 36, I should be freezing my eggs. Like, I don't know when I'm getting married. I don't know if this is the guy who knows. So I started doing that and I wasn't having, I'm sure you've heard it over and over when you do IVF. You're like, I got seven eggs. You think it's so much and then you're like, wait, only one of these turned into an embryo and they're not okay. What's going on? So I am on because I'm currently still trying, which is crazy pants USA, but I do believe my body can do it. I don't take no very well. I'm probably on my ninth to 10th round of IVF. So I have a hard time, I wasn't getting eggs, and then I got cervical cancer. So that was a whole other bag of tricks that came my way. And we just were having such a hard go, but once I had cervical cancer, turns out your cervix hasn't grow back. I was such an idiot when I went to go, you know, deal with that and have multiple surgeries. I looked to my doctor, I'm like, wait, this grows back, right? And they're like, yeah, no, it doesn't. And honestly, because of my age and because I wouldn't have enough cervix to hold a baby and very graphic, let me do a presentation about it. They said a surrogate would be the best way, especially when you've tried this hard to have get eggs and have a baby, like you could lose these pretty easily. So that wasn't easy to kind of swallow or take in. I remember crying to my husband one day being like, well, what am I going to do about a baby shower? If we're not even like having the baby, we're having a surrogate. He goes, we're going to nap and we're going to drop. Like that's what we're doing. Like that's your baby shower, which is kind of what we did. Shout out, Chris up. And she threw it. So yeah, we ended up finding a surrogate. We put two in, we lost the babies. That was a huge deal. We went into that very, I think, naive as well. We thought, oh my god, we're going to do a surrogate. We're going to have a baby. It's not that easy. None of this shit is easy, which is wild behavior. I need to write a book about like, it ain't easy. Just get ready. And it's hard. And people just, and it's like, you think it is until you go through it. And it's almost weird too, because I feel like you hear stories, but until it's happening, you don't really pay attention. - At all. - Right? - You're 100% right. It's like, I've heard about these like pregnancies or the, and like, you know, struggling and all this. And then it happens to you and you're like, wait, what? Like IVF and you're, you have this vision in your head. And then you're like, oh my god, I think I've seen someone talk about this before, but I never listened. - Because I think a lot of times people weren't comfortable talking about it. I remember finally when I was fed up after trial number eight or whatever, and I said to my husband, I'm going to, somebody came to me and asked me about it. And I said, I'm going to talk about this. I'm going to say that this is really hard in this sucks. And Jared from a small town in Canada was just like, please don't, like, I don't want to talk about it. And I did. And we got so much support. People were like, yes, we're struggling to players. Random friends, we didn't know that we're struggling. So once we decided to do the Syracusey route, yeah, we, it took a while. It was really, really hard. I'm candy coating a lot of it, but we got him. And he's here. And I mean, listen, all the things that I thought were such a big deal and they were like, I'm having another woman carry my baby. How am I going to explain it to him? I don't care. He's here now and he's amazing. The delivery room. Oh my gosh, what's that going to be like? It doesn't matter. It was great. I mean, there were wild stories about it, but he's here now. - Isn't that true? And you obviously, I haven't gone through it. But like, when you then decide you want to have a child, we grow up and we have this idea of exactly how we would get the child, right? And you're sitting there and you're like, okay, like maybe I'm going to be able to carry it. And you're like, okay, pivot. And you're having to pivot. And that I feel like is so much of every woman's experience is we're going to come up again something that is just not what we thought it would be. But you're right, it doesn't matter. It's like, this is your journey. And you're going to figure out how to get through it. Not saying it's not hard, but it's like, you have to accept that so much of what we see and we're told at a young age is not actually what happens. Like, all the way down to the movies, you see, it's first the water breaks and then the woman goes to hospital. That's also very infrequent that that happens. Like, we have a vision in our head and then we have to live reality, which is most of the time a lot scarier, a lot more complicated and really, really emotionally taxing on a woman and we don't talk about it that much. I'm happy though that people are starting to talk about it more, especially IVF because even during your experience, Aaron, hearing that other people reached out to you being like, "We thank you for admitting this." Sure. It's scary, right? Oh, yeah. I can imagine also, like you said, sugar coating around, you're like nine rounds of IVF at one point. That is a lot on you physically and emotionally. And then I can imagine that's also a lot on you in your partnership emotionally. What were some of the conversations between you and Jared about deciding whether to keep trying or just timing and timelines and all of that? I mean, there's a lot of guilt on my end. You feel like a failure, you know? We just moved into this new house. It's a lot bigger than what we had before because we thought we were having another baby. We lost a baby last year. So sorry. Oh, thank you. but it's just, then it air like, where are we doing this? 'Cause we don't have the second, but it's like stop. Like stop blaming yourself, take care of yourself, take care of your marriage, let's see what we can do. But it's a lot, I mean, it weighs on you. It still does, I was hoping to get around done before football because I'm still trying, I really am. I've spoken to a doctor that's like, listen, women are so close to having, and I've been, listen, women are fierce. Like, I know we can do it. So it is still something in my head, but the conversations are he's so supportive. I'll be here for you. He would like to have another baby I would too. Some days they're walking around with my kid. I'm like, I'm trying to have another, or I pull the Sally, Sally fails from steel magnolars. Do you know what your mother went through to have you? So yeah, but he's very supportive, and I think, listen, when you do this as a couple, I can see why it makes or breaks people. It is such a rollercoaster of emotions. When you then did have Mack, and he was first born, like, what did that feel like to you after all of this, the process and the process and the process and the hoping, and then you get to hold your child? A lot, please don't make us leave this hospital. What are we supposed to do? I mean, we didn't want our Sarah get to leave. She got to leave before him. And we were like, no, don't go. What do we do? It was a lot, it was overwhelming. I don't think any of it really, really hit me with my connection with this child. Yes, I love him, but I love him so much more. It just grows as you get to know this being, this person, this crazy animal that you have. I say that affectionately. Yeah, it was, I think we just felt like we were in the twilight zone. We had gone through so much to get there. We get him. We don't really understand it all. The drive home was awful because it was very far from where we were in LA because she had the baby where she wanted to have the baby. And I remember my husband just driving, you know, at 10 o'clock at night, 45 miles per hour and we were chugging Starbucks and stuff. I feel like, and I'm interested to see if you feel this way. At three years old, I just sit and I stare at my child. Like he is crazy town USA and I say that with the best, but he is the best. He is just, he is hilarious and the best. But I will tell you, having a kid, and I thought of you yesterday, we went to the doctor for his three-year checkup and then I wanted to go get it. He loves a green juice. He's got his bougie mama, his kid. I love that for him. My man, I want a green juice. Okay, let's go. And then I, but he's potty trained him so proud. But, you know, sometimes you got to be like, you got to go to the bathroom. No, I'm a green juice. Okay, we'll get the green juice after we go potty. Dealing with a toddler is dealing with your drunk 20-year-old girlfriend. Don't touch it, get over here. No, come here, come here. Come on, let's wash your hands. No, you don't need to, don't press that, Mack. Let's go, Mack, don't turn off the lights. Get your hands off the floor. The best is when they take a poop in a public potty and you got to wipe that bum. He is all fours on the ground and that butt in your face. And it is, I'm sorry, it's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life. Oh my God, I love how I'm about to go through the newborn phase, but that's what I've understood. It's like, once you hit like three and they're like a real person, you're like, get ready to just be running. They are your drunk girlfriend in your 20s. That's a great idea. No, no, don't do that, come here. No, sit down, hold my hand. Where are you going? It is your drunk girlfriend in their 20s. How has mother had changed you? I'm a sap. I like, you know, everything with my kid, I'll cry about. He's now doing the whole thing of like, mommy, don't leave me, don't leave yet. And that's going to be a whole thing during football this year 'cause I'm gone six months out of the year. What are you going to do? I cry. The things he's saying is hysterical. What are you talking about, guys? Hey, mom, what are you doing over there? Like, it's hilarious. He has dropped an F-bomb. It is a situation. Where do you think he learned that word from? Not a clue. Yup, we've had to, at first we just ignored it. Now we're like, hey, Mickey Mouse doesn't like, doesn't like little kids that say this kind of stuff. And Mickey will not allow you to come to the park if you say this, yeah. We have you taken him to a game yet? No, he went to, he's gone to King's game, of course. That's no problem now. He doesn't really get it. We did go with the Dallas Cowboys. We're so sweet enough to allow us to come to Oxenard to go to training camp. He walked up to DAC and I'm very big on shaking hands, saying what your name is, ask what their name is, introduce yourself, sir. Told DAC, thanks for being so nice to my mom. And then I think he's going to go, he may go to an Eagles game this year. Mm-hmm. Whoa. You're throwing him in the deep end. Sure arm in Dallas, though. Okay, okay. Yeah, Philly. I was like, oh, damn. Now what are we going to do if he doesn't like football? Yeah, I don't know. I haven't thought that far ahead. Go to a therapist. No, I'm saying that's a joke. No, no, no. He's going to love it. Do you have any message to kind of wrap out the motherhood conversation to anyone listening who maybe is trying to get pregnant? And it's not going the way that they have anticipated or wanted, do you have any advice? Hang in there. And when you feel like all your friends around you have babies and are getting pregnant so easy and everybody's having an easy go of it and you're not. And you feel like you can't talk to them, still talk to them. My girlfriends didn't know much about IVF. One of them did that had her baby that way, two of her babies that way. But and my girlfriends hadn't had a surrogate either. But they were so invested. They were so sweet. Shoot, we even had one of my best girlfriends and her husband. He had a game that week. We went to Dan Tana's the night we found out that our surrogate was pregnant and they helped me enjoy way too much red wine. Like just even if your friends have not experienced it and you think it's a hard time, you think it's very hard to verbalize how you're feeling. You need to talk to people. You cannot keep this stuff in. It'll eat you alive. It'll ruin your relationship. It'll ruin you. You cannot keep it in. Yeah, it's great advice to like don't just bear the burden between you and your partner, like let the people around you who also love you guys like help with it because I think a lot of people want to be there for their friends and their family. That's great advice. Just say it's, this is so hard and I don't know how to manage this. It's great advice. (upbeat music) - You have a podcast too. - Oh hey. - Called Calm Down. - Do you like being a podcaster? - It's interesting. It's so different from what I do in real life. Yeah, because we're so structured myself and Chris Atomson, who's also on Fox and Amazon, we thought you know what? Everybody is trying this. Let's give it a whirl and it turned into discussing what it's like having to go pee with, which by the way, I'm gonna say this. You know, where I have to pee for six months out of the year during football games is very adventurous. - Oh, I can imagine. - Oh yeah. - So you're kind of telling us everything from like motherhood to like life on and off the field. Like you're just going through everything and being very honest. - Yeah, being honest. And it's good, you know, there's a lot of times we have a lot of men that listen because they think we're gonna tell deep dark secrets about football but a lot of women that are interested in juggling motherhood and also interested in getting into the business. But what I was gonna say about the bathroom situation in what I experienced six months out of the year, you're lucky if there's toilet paper. You're lucky if it, and it clearly says women but the men go in there a lot. - Yeah, yeah. - It's hard. - It's interesting, right? Because usually it's like the women's line is so long and then the men's, but no, you're in more. - And that's why men are going in. - Men are going in. It's a little dirtier. I will say it's hard when you're doing maybe a jumper situation and it's gotta be down on the ground and you've got the IFB and you're like, "Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God." I will tell you, with all the nasty bathrooms I've been, I go to, I use your bathroom today 'cause it takes an hour to get here from where I was. Can I just say the little treats in there? I mean, forget that, you know, the sanitary products, we got the list of green packages. - You know, Aaron. - We got the dry shampoo. We've got the deodorant. - You sure we all woman team here. - Okay, we know what the girls need. - And I took a good five minutes in there 'cause I used all the products. - You got to pamper yourself. - So did, I loved going into a bathroom that has the thing. - Yeah, and I used them. - Thanks you for noticing that. - I did. - That's the first time anyone's brought up my bathroom here on "Color Daddy." - Oh, I was listarining it in there. I was like, yeah, rinsing the residue that I left after I listarined it. I used the dry shampoo, I used the deodorant. I smell fresh. - Okay, perfect. - Perfect. - In kind of, you know, the spirit of calm down in your pot. - I mean, down, yes. - I want to, the girls need some advice today, okay? We're gonna wind down with some advice. I'm gonna give you a situation, and you're gonna tell us if we should calm down, or if we can justifiably crash out. - Okay. - You were banking on your husband to go to a wedding with you, but he last minute has to pull out and now you have to go alone. - Yeah, crash out, but make it a minor crash out. It doesn't have to be a full explosion. - Yeah, but I'm annoyed. - I'm annoyed, I'm crashed out. - You know what he should do? he should come down. - Yeah, yeah. - And get it together. - And get to the weather. - Yeah. - When you're at an event like a wedding, do people try to talk sports with you? - Yeah, which I would rather do 'cause I don't wanna talk about anything else. - Oh, so true. You don't ask me anything personal. - Yeah, great. Oh, the Packers is here. Woo! But don't interject how you feel and what you think is going on, 'cause you know what, sir, I know what's going on. I know too much. Knock it out. You need to calm down. - You need to calm down. - Yeah. - And listen to what I have to say. Okay, that's interesting. I like that. You ask your eyebrow waxer for a simple cleanup, but she accidentally makes them way to thin. Calm down. - Calm down. Okay, you're following the stencil. Oh, you're saying calm down to the woman, not yourself. - Oh, me? - Yeah. - No, she should calm down and give me my money back. - And you're crashing out. - Yeah, crashing out. - I feel like every woman has gone through a phase of like beauty blindness. Like at one point for me, I had basically my blonde was silver-ish, bluish purple. - Sure. - And I really thought it was just, ooh, it was so great. That was full blindness. What have you had in your past where you're like, that was a full beauty blindness moment? - What I had two years ago, where I knew a girl that had fantastic eyebrows. And it was the kind that you could brush up and so fantastic. So somebody said, use this serum and I did, and my hair was a lot lighter than, and I was using it and she was growing in full black mustaches. And you can see it when you go back on our podcast, like Instagram site and see, it's like, what's happening? And no one in my life decided it would be a good idea to say, hey, what's going on there? What's going on? So your eyebrows were like, bush city. Bush mustash city. (laughing) Yeah, two years ago. And then it wasn't until I was shooting something that I had another makeup artist go, what's going on? - What's going on there? What are we doing? It's bad. I got so upset, I thought about bleaching them in the middle of the night. And I was still in season, thank God. And my girlfriend's like, no, go to like a freaking eyebrow person. - It is really, I've had eyebrow blindness before and when you look back at those videos of yourself, what's going on? - It's so crazy. - Sure is. - And we didn't see it right in front of our eyes, but you need perspective and you need a little distance. - Yeah. - And you need attention too. - Yeah. - Oh, just like the chunk blocky extensions. Yeah, really bad, really bad. Okay, your kid starts throwing a temper tantrum in public. Are you calming down or are you crashing out? - At first, I'll calm down a little bit, but I will probably crash out in the car with him. My mom was very big on, I'm not gonna ruin anybody else's time. So, let's, we're going, we're going, I'm done. I'm not figuring this out. With no judgment, what is one of the most unhinged parenting things that you've done to get through a hard moment? - It's just what you never thought in a million years what you would be doing. Like, I am such a German photo. I'm grossed out by public restrooms. I have to dress in them every week in an airport when I'm trying to get home. The fact I'm like squatted down because my kid, another thing, my kid, when he is going potty, 'cause we're not standing up yet to P.P., we are fully sitting on the pot. We don't want our shorts on, 'cause he wants to spread them out. So, I gotta take the shorts off. Then, you know what that means? I gotta take the shoes and the socks off too, 'cause he doesn't want them on. So, we are fully, you're in a public restroom. - And I am, I am touching the public restroom. I am on the floor looking at the little hairs and the little crumbs. - And his shoes are on. - And my man shoes are off. And you wanna know what is worse? When it's the automatic one, and I'm sitting there and I'm holding him and the automatic flesher goes. - And they're splatter. They're splatter in my face. - These are the things I never, I wouldn't even, I have the flu, I've got pink dye. This is horrible. - You have full pink dye all season. We're like, now we know why. Oh, Aaron, okay, this is interesting. You just interviewed a player and overheard him tell his teammate that your breath smelled really bad. - That's never gonna happen. It's never gonna happen because I'm psychotic, because I appreciate somebody like you having the listerine. - I will swallow an entire listerine stack. No, I would never become down. I'm not calm down thinking of it. I am crashing out and I'm having chest pains and I'm gonna worry about it for four weeks. - You will never have that breath. - I am also gonna write him a handwritten note and apologize. I had, I've told this story multiple times on our podcast. Luke Eakley just inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame. He is beautiful. He is, I have male friends that are like what a good looking guy. He's Superman. He looks like Superman. I'm working a game, Panthers at Green Bay. It's cold, my nose is running. I go up to talk to him, pre-game. I come back, talk to my producer and he's like, hey, look in the mirror, huge burger. It wasn't just a little one, it was massive. I am so mortified that I cannot see Luke Eakley to this day without being like, I am so sorry about that burger. He's like, it was 10 years ago. You need to get over it. - That is the, that's a little traumatizing. Like a big burger. - Yeah, that's gonna stay with you. - Yeah. - Okay. You got last minute invited to a huge playoff game while you're traveling and you have nothing to wear. - I don't calm down about that. I crash out because I'm not good. I would call my girl Daniella or yeah, I would look up what is cool to wear. Yeah, I'm like a robot with that. I would crash out. No, I would go to my office and grab whereby Aaron Andrews Alex. I was gonna say plug it, plug it. - My people are like, what is wrong with you? - That was a good transition though. - But a lot of times here's the thing. I can't wear teams because I can't look like I'm biased. - Oh. - But here's what I'm gonna say about a line called whereby Aaron Andrews. It doesn't have to be just for games. You can wear it to the dry cleaners. You can wear it to drop off. You can wear it when you're sitting on a public restroom floor waiting for your son to tinkle at lazy acres. - That's why I was gonna ask you. I think it's really impressive of everything you've done in your career. You decide to start this clothing line. - 'Cause there was nothing to wear for women. - Right. And what a great way to just get in there and be like, I'm gonna solve this for everyone. Are there any pieces that you are particularly excited about to bring out this season for the women? - We, I actually just wore it before I got here. It's kind of like the whole westernie vibe. - Oh. - Yeah. And, you know, we have all the teams. We have nine different leagues. We have colleges. I wear the NFL stuff because I'm not showing any bias. I don't want the Philly fans to be mad at me. Yeah, our windbreakers are sick. They're so vintage looking. I love our sweatshirts. They kind of got the like princess dive vibes when she was in the little spandex shorts. - We all love love love love love. - I love a good windbreaker. - Oh, you do. - For a windbreaker. - Oh, I just feel like it's, I don't know, I think having been an athlete myself, like I always gravitate towards the type of like at the leisure that just really feels like, I just came off the field. And I couldn't be more retired. - Yeah. - It is pathetic. You are also not preparing just for NFL season, but you are also coming back to host the show 99 to beat. - 99 problems. - Yeah. - Can Jung. - Have you been around him? - Never met him. - Tell me everything because obviously we love him from the head over. - Yeah, great. - But like explain to me what the vibe of doing the show with him is. - So our show is, like you said, 99 to beat. It starts with 100 people. You don't have to be the best. You don't have to come in first. Whatever you do, you can't finish last. There are the craziest little games for all these people to play. They are, I sit there in real life and I'm like, holy crap, this is like 99 to beat. Like they would have this adorable, by the way, jelly bean bowl and you'd have to pick it out with tweezers that are plastic and slippery. And the first one, you know, the last person is out. Million dollars on the line. So the stakes are high. There are, you know, people that are not too happy with other people. I love the drama. I love reading the body language. There's people looking to get other people out. There's kind of like, I'll say it. We have a guy that's like kind of like a Bill Bella check vibe. He's very stoic. He's not giving any pointers out to other people. He's like, you know, he's gonna win. Oh, he's gonna win. So yeah. It's, that is really fun to have because I just feel like that competitive nature. I love competing. I love anything that makes me be so competitive, which I love that for you. I would be crap on that show. Is there any challenge on the show that you actually think you could win? Well, not the golf cart one out of a small space 'cause seeing how I hit somebody's wooden trash can bin today. So definitely not that. What would I be good at? No, nothing. All of it would give me like raging anxiety. Okay, perfect. So it's better that you're hosting. Yep. You know what? He would be having a three year old use a public restroom without getting the flu. You win. Anything mom related, you're like, I got this. I'm ready to go. I don't. Okay, everything that we've talked about today from what you've, you know, taken on professionally and publicly and personally, you're so impressive. I know, gosh. No, truly, like it's so refreshing to sit with a woman also who is so confident in her own right, and not apologetic for her success. And is so just truly confident in what she's done and not shying away or not trying to downplay what you've done, like you own it. And I love that. What would you say you are the most proud of though through all of it? It's a fault of mine, but it's also something that has gotten me to where I am in my job. and my family in my, probably my marriage is just, I don't take the word no lightly. I figure out how can I get around it? Okay, you're saying no this way, but what if I try it this way? I mean, that's how we were able to have our son. That's hopefully how I'm able to have another baby. That's, you know, other jobs. Maybe I'd like to have in my life how I was able to get to where I am now with this job. Yeah, maybe my persistence. I love it. No, I think that's-- Headedness. Yeah, but I think it's, it's very refreshing, I think also because I relate to you in a lot of ways and that specifically resonates with me of like, I work so hard and I think sometimes it's, I don't know why people think it's like embarrassing to admit that you're trying really hard and you're putting so much effort into something and I've always been someone that's just like, oh no, I'm working my ass off, I'm not gonna hide that and I love that you've been like, I'm studying, I'm reading everything, I'm coming prepared and like, that's why then you show up and you are confident and you deserve to be there and I don't think that we should shy away from that as women. It's like, you earned that spot, now own it and enjoy it and enjoy all the fruits of your labor because you've had such an incredible career and it's only going to continue to prosper. So, Aaron, no, I couldn't thank you enough for coming. I think this was like the perfect balance of inspirational and also just honest, like good girl talk conversation that I knew that we would have today but I love how we went kind of all over the place and we-- - Oh, that's me. - We did-- - Me too. - Did you get Vertigo? Sorry if I did that to you. - It's my favorite type of interviews when I dip into like nine different things because I love hearing your perspective on so many different aspects of life but thank you so much for your time. I know-- - It's for your time. - I know I got so lucky 'cause girl, you're about to be so busy. - So busy. - You are so free. - It's going to be more different. You're going to be running on the sidelines and dealing with all that and I'm going to be on full maternity leave. We are on opposite planes right now but I guess we're both going to be in chaos. - Yeah, in chaos. - Is it two of them different? - And we'll both be in wear because guess what? Your baby has wear gear on its way. It's here. - Oh! - 'Cause we have a baby line, of course. - Of course. - What up, Eagles? - Oh my God, Eagles. Oh, oh, that's coming home with me and my husband is going to-- (laughs) full Rams fan and I'm going to be like, we got Eagles baby merch. Oh, he's going to be pissed. - Wow, we're tight with the stopper. So Rams are great to cheer. - Okay, yeah, we do love it. - We love it. - The stopper do the greatest. - Aaron, thank you so much for coming on Caller Daddy. It was a pleasure. - Thank you for having me and appreciate it. I'm going to go back to your bathroom and use all your products. - Take it all. - Right. - See all the history. 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