Epstein Files w/ Nick Bryant (Pt.1)

I would have done a legitimate investigation to find out what exactly happened on 9/11. How did they know who did this so quickly, like they did, Lee Harvey Oswald? Who's going to investigate the investigators? Who's going to investigate the prosecutors? Who's going to hold them accountable? Who's going to hold us public officials accountable? And that's all we're trying to do here. I'm trying to, in addition, to trying to find the truth. Do you honestly and truly in your heart believe that Sandy Hook actually happened? Yes or no? All right. Number two. It's all in just begun. You guys are getting more high tech every time. I know. Better now. A little bit more. I just don't want to start talking to you loud. Yeah, ever since this came out, it torched me because I used to love watching Steve Vannon do speeches. Because I was like, this guy gets it. And now I'm like, the coping I'm doing in my mind. Was this guy naval intelligence? Was he turning Epstein in? And then it's like, obviously not. He's just showing up with Epstein. They're like best friends. Yeah, I, all right, I'll start. All right. Nick, thanks for coming back. Yeah, when I got, when I saw the one that was like, um, from Galaine to Epstein going, Galker have printed the entire address book. I'll be a redacted. It's like, that's Epstein finding out about you sending in the little black book. Yes, that's crazy. How the fuck are you reading through that? He had four after he put the APB out on you. He had four years to deal with you. Yeah. That's such a long time. Three and a half years or whatever. I don't think Jeffrey Epstein liked me very much. No. But I want to, I'm a positive note. I've done a lot of podcasts, but you two are my favorite podcasts. Thank you very much. Take that. Frame it. Yeah, I was watching one podcast that you were doing and you hit up the Harry fish guy. Yes. The pizza. Yeah. That dude, he's sitting here talking to him and he's like, is the food codes or is this just like, are they just obsessed with junk food? Because the guy's like, the fish heads was what I needed. Chicken Parm would have been good too. You're back on my show. One more thing. Chunkies. And then he's like cherry pop tart. Like, what are they talking about? Well, you've got Susan Hamblin, who is the head of an adoption charity. And she's talking about sending muffins and steaks to the island. I don't like this. No. That's insane combo. I would have to say that she is not sending muffins and steaks to little St. James. She's obviously sending children to little St. James. That's where like back when we first started talking to you, like, we didn't even want to bring up like the pizza gate stuff because like, we were like way into that when it first came out and everything like that. But we didn't want to like make you have to like talk about like a crazy conspiracy. But now it is kind of insane that they are using some sort of code words, but I don't think the two code words are overlapping from pizza gate and the Epstein stuff. I feel like they got like their own spin on news and like weird codes. It's tough. There was that email that you said from Harry Fish. He's an eminent urologist and he said to him, I can't wait till we go out for pizza. And Grape soda and I called him up. I got his number. And I'm going to be contacting more and more of these villains and I've been, I've contacted a few of them now and I called up Harry and I said, Harry, how are you doing? My name is Nick Bryan, I'm a journalist and I'd like to know you, I've got an email that you shared with Jeffrey Epstein and you're talking about pizza and grape soda and I'd like to know what type of pizza you like and what type of what brand of grape soda you suggest. And he never got back to me. I was really offended by that. So I sent him a text that basically said the same thing and I posted a text on Twitter and he never got back to me on that either. I mean, I think that's kind of rude. They seem to be talking all the time. The other code one is the shrimp one. The black shrimp and the shrimp heads you throw away like this makes no sense. Not at all. Well, obviously I think the dark shrimp, the guy who, his name was Cologne, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that he obviously didn't like African Americans. But snapping the heads off that, that, that, that that's actual shrimp talk. That's kind of strange. So I, but yeah, I think that we can see by these emails. I knew that there was a very dark side to Epstein, a very dark side. Well, that's the thing that's frustrating to me is people are trying to spin it now like this guy was just kind of normal. These are just like hot young 20 something year old girls and it's like, dude, I don't think so. I mean, the emails show that there's, they're exchanging pictures of girls that are nine years old, 10 years old, 11 years old. And that's true. Yeah. I mean, the JPEGs say that. Yeah, right. Yeah. So, and I've known that Epstein was trafficking girls under 10 for quite some time and I've talked about it and people have been skeptical. But now these arguments really show that he was trafficking. And there's other accounts of girls that are under 10 being trafficked by him. And if you, if you do Epstein justice, right, could, could we see these things unredacted or like, could, could like a congressperson see it? Well, now with Epstein justice, we want an independent congressional commission. And that does not entail signature of the president. You need a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate. And the thing about independent congressional commissions is they often employ non-government personnel because we would need non-government personnel to dig into this if we were going to do it because if it goes to a subcommittee, it's going to die. I mean, that's where things go to die is in subcommittees. So we need an independent congressional commission. Now that's going to require majority in the House and a majority in the Senate. Which you're close, right? Yeah. I think that we aren't relatively close. I mean, I'm sure that there were people that were compromised that voted for a investigation just because it looks good. There was a guy from California, I saw that the first time, like the first wave of follows that got dropped, like he was still just like, don't believe this shit, like he looked like he was pretty hurt. But all that stuff was getting released because it is like getting a lot of people in a ton of trouble, which is kind of impressive because that hasn't happened in anything I've looked into in my life. Well, we need people arrested at this point. So now we need an independent congressional commission more than we ever have because we've got all these documents. And we have to find out who's sending these documents, who are the redacted names. The Trump administration is blatantly breaking the law of the Epstein Transparency Act because they're supposed to provide us with all the documents and only the victims are supposed to be redacted. So Trump and that whole administration is and they did the opposite. Yes. They're redacted. All the billionaires and released all the victims, which is insane. It's almost like a hit list where it's like, yeah, you can take these people out if you want to. And Bonnie said when she was just fine last week before the house and she said, yeah, we're willing to talk to any Epstein victim that comes forward. And then all the Epstein victims stood up and they said, raise your hand if you talk to the FBI and none of them and all them raise her hand. No. And cash is solid. Cash is on the bottom of it. Yeah. It is like for everything. Is there anything that surprised you from the files that you haven't already known? Uh, I was surprised in this one where it was he got invited to a skiff and they're talking about it with bands. So he was talking like military guys. Yeah. That's insane. Trump's like new to news has made done some really good reporting on a Hood, Barack, who is also a pedophile and according to Virginia to free. And he and Epstein were putting together arms deals, significant arms deals. And Epstein was putting together arms deals. He was laundering money. He was trafficking underage girls. He was blackmailing. That's a very talented guy. Yeah. If I was team evil, he would be a first round draft choice. I mean, he might be the first pick overall if I was team evil. Do you think there's other dudes out there on this level? Yes. Wow. They're like, you know, like guys like Emma. my sexual reach out, we needed to be all made, butter up this salt and. - Is it like an evil radonovan kind of, like a joke time show, like a fixer or something? Well, I think he was, I mean, in the Franklin scandal that was Craig Spence. - Yeah, he was in Vietnam, right? - Well, he was actually an ABC broadcaster in Vietnam. And then Spent, or King was in Thailand at that exact same time. He was with the Air Force and he had a top security clearance. And my theory on that is, I can't prove it, but this is my theory. And I think I know Franklin better than just by anybody, is I think both of them got busted, molesting little boys in Southeast Asia, and they were turned, because they're, both those guys were from blue collar backgrounds. And. - Yeah, the shit kicked out of you, go home. But when they came back to the US, their careers were like rockets. - Right. - And the impunity with which they operated, we saw the same impunity with Epstein. - I mean, that's Epstein's thing too. He's just a Coney Island boy. - Well, his dad was a gardener for New York City. People say, well, Epstein was blackmailing this person, or Epstein was black, he was blackmailing some of the most powerful people in the world. - Yeah. - And there's no way a gardener's son in Coney Island that's a college rap out is going to be able to blackmail really powerful people, because they have access to thugs. I've written them an article about this, where I showed that less wax in her head. Definitely big time mafia connections. - It's weird how that guy just shrugged that stuff off yesterday. - Yeah, it didn't seem too bad. - It's like I'm not even friends with Epstein. - And you know, he was doing business with Epstein. They were, there's deals that they did after Epstein was a convicted channelist. - Yeah. - And so that in and of itself just shows that he's lying. But we all know that he's lying. But the mind bog lane thing about that is, is the FBI hadn't even interviewed him up until now. - Yeah. - Yeah, that is insane. - That's the first time. - That's the first time they've ever taught. - Nice job, Keshe. - And it's like obviously the guy had a teen lingerie magazine. Like obviously this guy might be a pedophile. - Well, the fact that that got pushed real and published and like sent to people's houses is insane. - And the Hollister boys. - Yeah, Hollister guys, all that stuff, yeah. - Wexner is one of the grand wizards of all this. I think that Epstein was actually afraid of Wexner. Yeah, and some of those emails. I think that, and. - I saw pictures of him chilling on a boat. And it definitely looked like they were sitting around a mentor. - Yeah. - It was like a couple dudes I don't know. Epstein and then I was like, who's this whole guy? And I kept like zoom in and I was like, that's last Wexner. - The old tripled up guy. The thing about Epstein and Wexner is they were lovers too. - Yeah. Dude, we said this. - Is that real? I was like, bro, he's whatever. I'm not judging. - But they were both lovers and they were pedophiles together. I mean Wexner was according to Virginia Goofrey with his molesting little girls. But then I've heard from other sources that he was allegedly molesting little boys. I think little boys were probably his chosen pedophilic target. - And when you say they've according to Virginia, like these, she gets corroborated by other people. Like that's because people are saying now, it's like she's just a crazy chick. - Yeah. - And it's like bro, like, I don't know. There's just way too much stuff in here. I wrote an article that's on my blog and it's called a Requiem for Virginia Goofrey. And I get into all the evidence that supports her. And she was really a supernova, a really amazing person. I got to know her fairly well. And when she moved back to Australia, she just kind of went radio silent with a bunch of people. And we didn't really know what was going on with her because she never returned my emails or my calls. And that's also the case with other people that I know, that knew her very well. And I had no idea why she went radio silent. I was thinking that maybe she's taken on all these powerful guys and she just wants to kind of recede in an anonymity. Although she was terrified of waxen her and she was terrified of a hood baroque. - Right, okay. - Terrified. But what was going on is her husband was beating her up. Thank him. And she just kind of, Virginia, her father started molesting her when she was six and farmed her out to an extra neighbor when she was eight. - So Virginia obviously had dissociative identity disorder. I've got no doubts about that. And people with dissociative identity disorder, like she went up against all these powerful people. And if you've got dissociative identity disorder, it can be hugely helpful because if you, - You get like shift into the gear. - Yeah, you can shift into a different gear. - I got you. - And I think that enabled her to get through what she went through. We've seen that with like Paul Binassi and the Franklin scandal. So I think that the wheels came off. She had been, she had endured so much trauma. She was molested by her father when she was six. He farmed her out when she was eight. She was put into an archaic institution when she was like 11 or 12. And one of those tough love kind of places. In the 70s and probably in the early 80s, rehabs used to put people in diapers and give them done sets and stuff. - They were real serious. - Are you serious? - Oh, there's places like my dad's one body. He was like, "You get sent to that." And it is like fucking forward. Like you're never doing it. - There's even a juvenile detention. - Kind of. You're never doing drugs again or you're fucked for life. - Well, what their philosophy was is that you needed to break people down. But now people know that drug addicts and alcoholics have already brought themselves down. They need to be built up. They don't need any more breaking down. But so she was sent to one of those places that break people down and she ran away and she was selling herself on the streets. And she intersected, I think it was in a limo. Guy named Ron Eppinger, he was a pedophilic pimp. - I was wondering if that was a real name. - That's in her book. - Yeah, Ron Eppinger. And so Eppinger rented an apartment for her and pedophiles would come in during the day, the night, whatever. And then the FBI got onto Eppinger and then he gave her to a guy named Kelman. And then in a Prudon raid, the FBI kicked down Kelman's door. And Virginia was, I think, 15 at this point. And her father was kind enough to let her back into the house. - Right. - And her father, I've seen him on some television interviews. And what was he like as far as like work? Was he in like politics? - He was a dude. - He, no, no, he was like a maintenance man for Mar-a-Laga. - Oh, yeah. - Ouchie. - That hurts. And then he got Virginia a job at Mar-a-Laga. And that's when she met Maxwell. - And Epstein and Maxwell, when we talk about the Franklin scandal, like the kids, a lot of them came from Boy's Town. And Boy's Town taught them deference and respect. - They were programmed. - Yeah, try to wash any kind of street stuff out of them. And because you cannot take a kid off the street and put him in the same room as the senator. - Yeah. - You just, you can't do it. - I mean, they have to be trained. They have to be conditioned. They have to be groomed. And Virginia was already all of those things. So it was easy for Epstein and Maxwell just to trafficker all over. - Right. - And then like, so when that's, when she gets sent to Mar-a-Laga, like, do you think like, there's like a ton of like argument back and forth with like, if Trump had anything to do with it or Trump's an FBI informant. Like, what do you think as far as like, Trump's role in all this goes? Like, where does he stand in this thing? Is he just like, guilty as a rest of them or do you think you might have been an FBI informant? Ask a friend. - He ostensibly said to the Palm Beach police chief that Epstein was a monster, I think, in 2007. But, I've. got to talk to him about that. And with Trump, the thing about Epstein is, Epstein wore what he was on his sleeve. I mean, maybe he could be cool for an hour. Maybe he could be cool for a day. But if you spend any time with Jeffrey Epstein, you know exactly what he was about. Yeah, he was ready to meet the emails between his like girlfriends or whatever, like J.C. groomed, like the manipulation and the weird and like the shit he does that checks is like really fuck. Yeah. If you keyword search J.E. jail seems to be like this, he was talking to this girl like N.E.M. was her initials. And the way he was controlling her and it was right before he got that was his girlfriend, I think, who became a pilot like right before he got his name. That's not him. And through the way he's talking, these girls is like mind control. He's got them like afraid fuck up. He's a controlling psycho. And then he's like talking about how they don't make good enough omelets. And they got to read all these books and get smart and like give him messages and help him with the exercises. They got to work out four or five times a day. And it's like, this guy's a psychopath. This is why when they go, let's go get grape soda and pizza. I'm like, this guy's not eating junk food. He's a health freak. He's trying to like clone himself in Santa Fe. He's a maniac. I think he probably did clone himself. I'm terrified. You told us that later. I don't hear that cloning. Is that hard? I'm not. I probably think about it once a week. The world's way different now. People are like way more open to hearing about cloning. But like the thing that's the same is what I see them doing a Virginia and stuff is the same thing they did the Franklin scandal kids is they're like they're on drugs. She's crazy. Yeah. You all know a crazy girl. That's one of them. Yeah. And it's like, dude, that's not the wet. That's not what's going on here. And that's what happened to Paul Benossi, right? There's a reason not like Paul. Yeah. I mean Paul went through just hell starting at a very young age. And he has said that he was a mind control survivor. And I did a lot of research into Paul and just about everything that he said that I could corroborate turned out to be true. He said that he took part in the Johnny gosh abduction and that Johnny gosh was taken to a house in Colorado. And and that'll turn out to be true. Yeah. So with Paul, I mean, most of the things that he said is true. And I think that with Epstein, there might have been some kind of nexus with mind control. I don't know that for a fact. Yeah. I mean, I've talked to three Franklin vacans and I firmly believe that they were mind control. Do you think that did he name his plane, Lelita Express? Or is that the name that's been given to it by the press? I think that was the name that was given to the press. But I, you know, I mean, I'm sure he was proud of it. Yeah. I'm just like fascinated. I'd never read Lelita. I just, I'm like halfway through it. It's actually like rugged. The language, it's tough read, but like in the, so the book is like, you're reading this dead dude's diary. And he's like edge lording being like, I can't believe I'm writing this stuff down. Everybody ever reads this. I'm so busted. Yeah. And like Lelita will come and like Dolores will come in the room and be like, what are you writing? He's like nothing. Like he's doing this stuff, right? But it's kind of like we are reading a dead dude's diary. Yeah. That was like living out this like pedophile life. Yeah. It's the same as Lelita. And he's a, he seems to be like, doesn't he reference something like that a lot? I mean, he's got like a first edition. Yeah, yeah. I look at that. He's boys with this dude Jeff or Jay Edward J. I've seen that writes for it. It's a JFK assassinations and stuff. He's a propaganda writer. That dude's, that dude's a college professor was Vladimir Nabokov. The guy wrote Lelita. So I think that's how he was getting him. But he would hand him out to people like, I got you, bro. I got to sign first edition. Yeah. And he would give him people. But he was writing quotes from Lelita on girl's skin. Yeah. Yeah. So he's a fucking psycho. I mean, that's like, that's like edging like dude. One day they'll find these pictures. Yeah. Well, the thing about Epstein was he was very confident that he could do anything he wanted and he was going to get away with it. Yeah. The way he was talking on like the videos that we watch of like him on the island and stuff like that. He sounded like he was like, he beat the game and he's just showing people, yeah, I got my own beach. No boats can come in here. Like he's, he sounds like a real dickhead. He's a dick dick. Well, he's a psychopath. Yeah. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein was a psychopath. And, and I knew that Jeffrey Epstein was a psychopath. And with psychopaths, they do not have a conscience. They're not hindered by a conscience. They do whatever they wanted. I was just like him to psychopath. So frustrated about this because I know that you're right. Yeah. And nobody actually encounter like very few people actually encounter a psychopath in their life and know it or know them well enough to know that they're psychopaths. So regular people are like sitting there going like this is crazy. Nobody could be like this. He's probably like this. Yeah. And you're thinking like a regular person. And this dude does not have a conscience. Yeah. He doesn't have a gym in a cricket. And the psychopaths even worse than the worse than the sociopaths, right? Well, they're about the same little conscience. Well, the thing about it is you're not going to know you're dealing with a psychopath or a sociopath unless you have something they want or you're in an impediment. Yeah. Something they want. And then you will realize what us and and that's having to me a couple of times. Yeah. Where I've realized I'm dealing with some psychopaths here. I was talking to him a little while about a little while ago about that where it's like couldn't these people like if you're running these like sex trafficking pedophilia like couldn't you find like if you get a psychopath that's like getting a kid who's running a 4 3 40 in eighth grade where you're like, yeah, I can use you buddy. And like you fucking put him in the Dalton school. You fast pass through all this stuff and then just get him to start do your bidding. And he could care less as long as you're like dude, you're the man, your deck's definitely not shaped like an egg. It's just weird because in 2014 Bill Burns and Peter Teal are like, we got to go chill and have a meeting with Epstein. It's like, so what is this dude? Yes. Dude isn't just some random mass psychopath. Burns actually had at least three meetings and he was became the CIA director under Joseph Biden Jesus. So what was he before? What was he when he was doing this? He was a, well, he was a diplomat, and then he became president of the current, uh, Carnegie foundation. Okay. And then he, what's that like think tank or something or like a, it's ostensibly a charity. Okay. But like the Rockefeller, I mean, a lot of these organizations from old money that are ostensibly charities have intelligence connections. Right. Well, the, like with the Ford family and the Rockefeller family, there's definitely been connections between their foundations and intelligence. And that dude with CIA director for Biden. Yes. What the, yeah, this is the other way or so that he gets into is all that science stuff. So he's, he gets into all these scientists. And he got into that giant, that edged thing, but then he becomes boys with them all. And all that stuff he gets into is the crisper that gene editing and the trans stuff. And that hit mainstream like after Epstein. Hmm. Well, there's that email where the dude's talking about, I can't remember his name, he's talking about giving hormone blockers to little boys and testosterone and little girls to essentially produce a hermaphrodite. And he's talking about how sexy the hermaphrodite's going to be. And I've never really found, I've never really found hermaphrodite sexy. I mean, granted, I probably, I don't know if I've met her. But it's never been something that I've been attracted to. So, um, but I'm sure that there are rich freaks out there that they probably get bored with the old supermodel. Yeah. You know, and that that was the same thing with, uh, with Franklin is a lot of these guys, they can have prostitutes for a thousand hour, 2000 hour, 3000 hour, 3000 hour. And ultimately they go towards forbidden fruit. And then sometimes they have to get, keep getting more violent and more violent, more violent. There's a lot of like strangulation and torture stuff in the emails too, which like I, I, for some reason, it's just very easy for me to picture like these rich dudes just kind of losing their mind and strangling a chick by accident, Epstein walks in and goes, I guess we're going to have to clean this up and your blackmail. I mean, you remember when the little kid was jumping out of that British building? Yeah. Look at that. Yeah. I always think about that. That's the thing. Next thing you grow that was like, they're eating beef. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. And it would be really nice to get to the bottom of all this coded language. Yeah. I've seen accounts, different accounts of what that coded language is, but I just can't corroborate it or whatever. I don't know at this point. I'm, I just, I'm not, you guys know me. I want to be, yeah, pretty confident. Yeah. That's what it's hard to figure out. Well, like because there was one thing, we talked about something last week where like, if you read it a few times, you can kind of make sense of it because these guys are also like, they're incoherent when it comes to spelling and talking and all that stuff. I mean, I, you think Epstein is talking to him, he's typing out. Yeah. You think it's a voice, voice to text, right? Yeah. I think they could be maybe voice to text or something because like, I've sent text messages where like, it sounds like I'm on meth because I'm not looking at my phone and texting then I just had send, but like with the pictures and like with everything together, it is definitely, there's something going on, but like you can kinda like put it to the side of your mind if you're just like, oh, maybe that's a mistake or something like that, but it definitely seems like. - They think different, when we were driving up here, I was reading Epstein and Woody Allen's wife talking about Anthony Wiener, and she's just like, that little girl, she knows what she's doing, that poor man, what she's doing at that poor man, and he's like, I can't believe she thought, he thought he was safe talking to a 15-year-old on the internet, it's like, dude, what are you guys? - And then Woody talks about like, terminating someone, they're alive. I mean, she turned out to be a little. Woody Allen, for my. - For my escape to all the original Epstein stuff, Woody Allen was like, I don't remember Woody Allen being this like, dinners with Woody. You know, what about him having water-crunk height, being friends with Dick Kavitt? This is nuts, I know. - Woody and his friends were just about anybody on the left. - No, I mean Epstein. - Oh, Epstein, yes. - Like, that's fucking crazy, dude. - The thing about Epstein is he was a connector, he connected a lot of people. - Yeah. - And one of the emails, he's using Fergie to get to Prince Andrew. - Right. - And that's what he does, is he uses people to get to other people. There were some scorned women in the email saying, like, I could die now, know that you were just using me. And it seems like everyone he was talking to was a transactional relationship to get to the next person. - For this dude, it's like, it must be so hard for you to hang out with normal people. You're so smart. I see how you like talk to people and get whatever you want. Like, master manipulator stuff. He wouldn't have gotten any of them. (laughing) - As I said, psychopas are really smooth. And you're not gonna know that you're dealing with a psychopath unless they got something you want or you're an impediment to something else. - I gotta remember this, this is very, this is like the yacht thing you have. That's very important. - Yeah. - What about only talking to you if they need something for you? - What about the Prince Andrew stuff? They said he just got pulled in for like, financial stuff. It wasn't even about-- - It wasn't giving information, training information to Epstein. So that had nothing to do with like, hanging out on the plane with little girls or anything. - No, but it's a start. You should like tie Epstein justice to his financial crimes and maybe someone would actually go crazy over it. - It's that UK ambassador to America, Peter Mandelson. I mean, he was a guy that wrote Epstein wrote to him. I love the torture video. - Yeah, he's a guy that's like, Leonardo, Leonardo DiCaprio needs some money. Like, that's Epstein's hitting him up about that. - Yeah. - And that was weird too. - I mean, it's Prince Andrew, that's why I shut it. - Yeah. - Is that? - There's a lot of like, there's some stuff that's like blowing people's mind, the pictures and stuff like this. But like, to me, like, this should have been out forever. So like, it's just, I get like weirded out that like, and now all of a sudden, they're gonna put all this stuff out like, almost like a limited hangout and then like, them trying real hard to tie it to Pizegate to like maybe like, hurt its credibility or something like that. Like, something just seems off about the way they're releasing-- - We've already been through this with Pizegate. We were already like sucked in and then I was like, dude, this, what are we doing? And then, I don't know what that was all about. - Yeah. - I don't know why they did that to us, but what we did it to ourselves. - The early Pizegate stuff, it was just emails from WikiLeak to, from Podesta to like everyone out. Like, it was like normal stuff. So like, I don't understand like why it, it kind of just got like a kid went in there and shot the hard drive. And then like a few years later, he gets killed and everyone's like, yeah, it was just some weirdo's online talking crazy. - With Pizegate, as I said, I looked into it and I could never really define any definitive information. So with the stuff that's coming out now, I mean, if you take, if you exclude even the pizzas and the muffins and the steaks, you still have some very evil stuff, I mean, very evil. And what we need is, our government, the Trump administration is telling us that Epstein had no co-conspirators. - They're sticking to that. - It's a crazy one-man job. - I was reading this Lad Bible article about how Galene is fighting for her shit to be appealed 'cause she's supposed to be protected under the original thing. - Amenity, yeah. - She's saying one of the jurors was sexually abused and never disclosed that before. And like, dude, when you read this thing, you're like, they should probably do a retrial thing. I mean, I know she's guilty of whatever, but like, she brought up a lot of her lawyers, like, brought up a lot of good points in that. My dude, are they purposely fucking this up? Like, I don't know if they're gonna pardon her or what, but she's getting like a pretty easy life right now. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, I mean, she should be in like a dungeon. (laughing) - And then Brennan Water should be like the extent of her diet. - In these emails that you, or all this stuff that you looked at, they killed people. It's in the files that they might have killed people. - Yeah. - That's fucking not, dude. - Well, I mean, I guess he's not trafficking kids. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - There's murder in the Franklin scandal of kids. And we were talking about this earlier. I believe that these guys get more and more and more violent, to live on the edge, to get cortisol, or to add them to feel something. - It's like when dudes have to look at weirder and weirder porn. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think that you have it with these power brokers. And a lot of them are psychopaths or sociopaths. - This is my new running theory that, when they start getting kids in school, once they figure out you're a psychopath, we're fast-lining you to whatever political power, whatever we need you to do. Because it does it like what they're doing, like Pam Bondi, like all these people, Kash Patel and Bongina, like what they're doing makes no sense. Like they're obviously lying and protecting pedophiles. So either they're compromised or they're psychopaths. Like I don't think there's any like-- - I mean, it could be both. (laughing) - What's weird is to say that they're psychopaths and they only talk to you if they need you. And he's got the, he's got that chick Elizabeth Laufthas, the memory-- - Yes, the false memory center of automation. - This is a big, kind of a big deal if Epstein is looking into this check. - Yeah, I mean, that's like the speed dial for anyone who gets killed with pedophilia or something like that. - And the false memory center of foundation is folded, but it was founded by a pedophile and his wife, who is also his sister. (laughing) - That starts somewhere, I guess. Pamela and Peter Fried, they started the false memory center of foundation because their child said that she'd been molested by Peter. And they started this, there is no such thing as false memory syndrome. - Yeah, I mean, and they were actually, as I said, they were brother and step sister and then they became husband and wife. And Peter Fried was, he had a PhD in mathematics, but he was not a psycho. And this is kind of interesting because the alternative weekly in Philadelphia didn't article on the false memory center of foundation and they were interviewing Peter Fried and they said, well, how do we know that you didn't molest your daughter? - Now here's a guy with a PhD in mathematics and this is what he said. The dog would have barked there. I don't sweat, yeah. That's up there with I don't sweat. - Yeah, I swear to God, I remember seeing that on like Donna here or something when I was a little kid. - What false memory? - You should do these shows about these crazy theories and to, I don't know, like on purpose to introduce them to the United States or just to be like, this is crazy but they would have people on like, did you know that there's false memories? - Yeah, just throwing that out there. - I swear to God, I remember seeing that. - Well, what they did and what they still do, I mean, the false memory center of foundation is disintegrated as it should have. But they go around and they testify at child abuse trials saying that the child-- - It's a ringer, like now we're good. - Yeah, bring this check. - Saying that the child's memories are fallible and that, so, and-- - You just arrest everyone from that. - Someone like Loftus made millions of dollars. - Oh yeah. - Flying around. And that's what they do, they fly around the world and they get called by very, there was a false memory center of foundation guy named Harrison Polk who was called in to debunk these boys town kids that were molested by Father James Kelly. And Father James Kelly was a major pedophile. He was a pedophile in New York upstate, molested a couple of bunch of kids in upstate. And then the Catholic church and its infinite wisdom transferred him to boys town where he became the number two guy. - The extent of two to the honey. - Because-- I was looking for victims that had been trafficked by King and I ended up talking to a bunch of victims that had been molested by Father Kelly. Yeah. And I think that Kelly was compromised and because the priests at Boystown, they were the ultimate authority. And if you wanted a pass for the weekend, you could get one from the priest. So and then Kelly, and Boystown is protected Kelly. It's really egregious. And then he ended up in Las Vegas as a pastor at a jail, so there you go. That's where he ended up. There was one priest at Boystown who ended up in Argentina, so obviously, I mean, what were you going to ask him about the Boyst, the guy from the body and laptops and stuff? I mean, I didn't know it. I don't know if you want to talk about that, actually, on the podcast, but like the whole Boy's, like, it's Boyz Edwards, Pondger, is this who are these the guys? Pondger is a separate, Pondger is a CIS, or was it CIS, for sure? And he took part in arms dealing. People think it's a rank contra, but it's not. The Iranian students took all the people that were at the U.S. Embassy hostage, it was like 52 of them. And the Reagan administration had George Bush senior who would be the vice president, and he had been head of the CIA. And then it had William Casey, who was intelligence and he would become head of the CIA and the Reagan administration. So the Carter administration sent Pondger to Spain to talk to one of the Iranians. And on behalf of the Carter administration, but he didn't talk to him on behalf of the Carter administration, he talked to him on behalf of the Reagan campaign. And that's when they started working out, this deal where the United States would sell them arms if they held the hostages till after Reagan was elected. This is the beginning. This is October Supra. That's October Supra. And October Supra is predates a rank contra, or laid the foundation for rank contra. So Pondger is part of this deal, and one of his clients is Cyrus Hashemi, who is an Iranian arms dealer. And the Department of Justice has Pondger on tape putting together an arms deal with Hashemi. They got him on tape. And Rudolph Giuliani is the U.S. attorney that's prosecuting the case. >> America is an agent. >> Yeah. And Rudolph Giuliani or the Department of Justice, they lost the tapes that incriminate stamp contracts, and then around that time, Stamp Pondger was in business with Jeffrey Epstein. They were ostensibly selling tax-avoidant strategies to the rich, but they were both arms dealers. >> Do you think that's how we started, like the kids just, or like the human trafficking kind of just came after, he like got into the mud with arms dealing? >> You know, it's a chicken or egg kind of thing. So Epstein was a very talented piano player and a very gifted science at math. And Donald Barr, who was in the OSS, and he's the father of William Barr, who was the attorney general that covered up Franklin, and then covered up Epstein, and a CIA guy for sure. So Donald Barr had this special program where talent, they'd bring talented kids from all over New York, and they would spend like Saturdays, and he oversaw that. And I believe, and I haven't been able to prove it, but I believe that's where he met Epstein. >> There's a part of Lolita not to like get two skits down, but there's a part of Lolita at the end where the girl goes to a summer camp. And basically the dude that's been like trafficking her and fucking her, figures out that she was already molested by this other dude that ran a summer play program. And like this is like fucking mind fucking them, right? But Epstein went to like, he was a talented arts kid and went to interlock in the summertime. And he went to like, he went to like the same thing that Lolita went to. It's fucking weird when I think about it. I'm like, it's got kind of lives like parallel to this book. Yeah, yeah. But if Barr found him when he was a kid and he's like, in the birthday book, it's like he's playing a accordion, like all this stuff. >> Makes no sense. >> Whatever. I just think there's something about these guys that like fucking, it fucks with my head if I started thinking about that. >> Yeah, there's like a fence. >> And Donald Barr was by the book fascist guy, I mean, totally by the book. >> He's the nut that wrote the space relations. >> And yeah, man, but so there's no way he would have hired a college rapper, fuck no. >> Yeah. >> Bird Dalton, which is probably the most prestigious school. There's no way he would have hired Epstein without kind of some kind of prior relationship. >> Yeah, the interview he does with Bannon, like everyone says he's a genius, but when he's talking to that interview, he kind of sounds like a fucking moron. >> Well, I mean, the guy obviously has a certain degree of intelligence to do what he did. I mean, he sounds like a guy that kind of grew up, he's got that Brooklyn Rasp, and his grammar is certainly not very good with the emails, but the guy had some kind of intelligence to do everything, but you also have to keep in mind, he was protected. >> Yes. >> I mean, if I was a psychopath and I wanted to do illegal stuff and I was protected, I could do a lot of stuff. >> Fuck you, yeah. >> So, so he's freewheeling and he's protected, but he's protected by intelligence agencies. Is that what it is, or it's like he belongs to intelligence, like who's protecting him? Is it Mafia? >> Well, when he got busted, and when the Palm Beach Police Department started to investigate in 2005, and then they had that ridiculous grand jury that city had in molasses. >> Those little girl interviews are rough to read. >> So, I mean, and at that point, the Florida knew of anywhere from 17 to 23 victims, and Lana Bellovic, who was a special prosecutor, only called two. And one had been molested by obscene when she was 14, she was now 16, one had been molested by obscene multiple times when she was 16, and now she was 18. And she just skewered those four girls, and actually the granders, who are just granders, are just people that have been shown up for jury duty, and they've been found to a grand jury. They don't know what, and the only thing they know is what the special prosecutor presents them, and as far as evidence, and also calls the witnesses. So, Lana Bellovic just skewered those four girls, and actually the granders were calling them prostitutes. >> Holy fuck, you know, just really bad. >> So Michael Ryder, who was the chief of the Palm Beach Police Department, who was really one of the major unsung heroes in all this, he took so much heat. >> I bet. >> So much heat. >> If you throw that out there, like, you're pissing off some people. And yeah, he took a lot, he's really a good guy, man. And really the unsung hero of Epstein. And he went to the Department of Justice and said, that grand jury is like one of the greatest miscarriage of justice in modern history, you've got to fix this. Now what I had thought before all these documents came out is because Acosta was told to stand down. He was a U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida, he was told to stand down. And I didn't know, I thought that he was going to a panel of grand jury and didn't, or he empaneled one briefly and then adjourned it. But actually there was a full-scale investigation and absentee by the feds. And they drafted a 60-count indictment. And I didn't know that until recently. Then they gave the sweetheart deal. And then, yeah, and then there was a lot of pressure put on Acosta. Actually, there's an email about it where Ken Starr was a snake in a little bell. He'd been looking into these lawyers because it's like, this is how they need like Dershowitz star. And I don't know. Like Black, I mean, he had a dream team right up there with OJ. Because Ken Starr was with Clinton scandal and he was with the Kavanaugh scandal. So it seems like everywhere this dude goes, there's some like weird sexual scandal. It's, yeah. Yeah, no, email is there. So Alexander Acosta had the he put on him. And now there's only two people in the government that can tell a U.S. attorney to stand down. One is the attorney general and one is president. Those are the only two guys. So and Alexander Acosta, as a U.S. attorney, isn't going to unilaterally cover up a pedophile in that word. Not going to happen. He's not going to put himself on a limb. The attorney general was Alberto Gonzalez. He is going to unilaterally cover up a pedophile in that word. He's not going to put himself on a limb like that. order came from Bush too. The cognitively challenged George Bush. Yeah. And so when you talk about intelligence, power, connections, I mean, the sweetheart deal came from the President of the United States of America. So like, dudes like boys, are they good lawyers? Yeah. We got some more boys. Oh, yeah. I've got them coffee.