Episode 975 | "Insatiable Appetite"

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On every, so it's not about what it costs. And it ain't about it being fire. It's when the streets get a hold of it, it's like the good club. The good club is only good when a few people know about it. That's why I hate Instagram. You hate Instagram? You? That's once a, please, I'm on Instagram. Stop. Well, I mean, they could show us your usage. You know, they have that feature on there where you can go right there and see exactly how long you're on there. That's a shame. I'm sure mine is less than most. Oh, yeah, you better change it. Look at myself. You meditate. The people in here. The most programmers. No, let's just be clear. We've called her the most. Joe, you can see your own usage or I can go see his usage. No, no, you see your own usage. Your own usage. Why don't we look real quick? We can see other niggas' usage. We can see his if he show it to us. Why don't we all check our usage? We can be fair. All right, we are here. I got their usage up. I got mine. Okay, I got mine. Going around the room. I got my daily average. Let me see. I'll set it off. I got an hour and 26 minutes today. Damn, Park's making beats. You're doing good. 47 minutes a day. God damn. Oh, mine's 227. Two hours and 27 minutes? Yeah. Mark? One hour and 13 minutes. Mona. Mona? Let me see. 215. Let me see. Joe, bud. Joe. And mine is 215. Let me see that. Okay. So it's not the most, but as it turns out. How much is Joe's? How much is Joe's? 215. 215. Let me see. Oh. So as it turns out. See how you just say stuff? Yeah. So you have the high. Highest usage rate. 4K, my nigga. Everybody in the room. Nah, you have the highest usage rate, yo. I'm all great. But nigga, still flirting like I ain't make no money. Burger King wants the rights to the sofa. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. Chill. Chill. Chill. Go home and get a shit on. Actually, that do make sense. That make sense. Why? Because I don't be on the other apps. Like, I don't be on the other apps. Like, I don't be on Twitter. I don't be on TikTok and all that other shit. All I really go to is Instagram. So that make sense. How many hours of sleep? How many hours a day you sleep? Maybe like four or five. Man. Nigga even try to say it with a sleepy voice. No, I'm not. He thought that shit would go over. Nah, I probably go to sleep like two, three o'clock every day. Just think of how many hours a week you spend on Instagram. That's a lot of time. Just think of how many realtors are on Instagram. That's the important thing. It's a lot of business to me. A lot of business. That's true. You ever see how many realtors are on there? A bunch. And contractors and all that. They on there. Yeah. They on there. You got to send a lot of messages. It makes sense. Nah, I don't. Damn, so Freeze got the least. Yeah? Yeah. I was a Twitter dude. That was that from? Yeah, sure. You don't Twitter like that that much? Well, where was the shocker in that? That Freeze had the least? Nah, I thought that he would be on Instagram a lot. I thought he would be too. Anywhere where they at. Come here. Yo, you. All right. He blown up. Okay. He's blown up. Okay. No, no, no. Okay. No, no, no. No, no, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop. No, stop. For real. Chill, chill. You're backing down. Nah, chill, chill, chill, chill. He backed you down with a look. I don't want no smoke with nobody. Just the eye. I'm chilling. No one for you to think I'm chill. I'm not chill. I'm not chill. That's cool. How's everybody doing? Feeling great, man. Good. Good, man. Good, good, good. Absolutely love that. I'm always popping with you. I know. That's what I was going for. I like it. You know, knees. I'm real zen. You know? Censored? Yeah. Yeah. Can I tell you a secret? I don't know. I'll think about it. That's one thing we'll see. I think you should tell her a secret, Chad. I don't think we should start off the top with a secret, right? It ain't a real secret. I know you'd be scared of my shit sometimes. I'm joking around more. Okay. What's the secret? The random people you show up with when you show up. Like, you cool. You can show up whenever. But the plus, we never had like a plus one conversation. So you walked in with the. Mind you. Who the fuck? Mind you. Who is this nigga? This is my friend, Derek. He's a comic. Hey, Derek. What's up? I've bought. Not only has Derek been up here like three times. Yeah, he's been up here before. But my very first day, he came here. Yeah. So he's been here a few times. In my biggest videos this year, he's in them. Oh, okay. All right. You know what I mean? He's very forgettable, so I get it. Damn. That's how you do your people? Yes. Especially when you don't have a mic. Yeah, you're not mad at me. Yeah, you want to know. He ain't like. Stand out. When you say, yo, he's been here before, like that passes. You got to be here at least like 15 times. Ain't no. Oh, really? Yeah, you look like the other comedian. I feel like. No. You look like mad niggas that been here. Ryan. No, you look like Ryan. They be giving Ryan Davis. You look like Ryan Davis. He like Ryan Davis. Kind of. I think a young phase in your love. Well, welcome back. Yeah, welcome back. Word, word. Welcome back, man. Welcome, nigga. Good to see you, man. You look cozy. Thank you. You look cozy. It's cold. It got cold fast. It's so back and forth out here now. Yeah, it is. It be sunny, but it's freezing. Freezing? 72 degrees and then freezing. To the anemic girls are cold. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know black girls be anemic. That's like a thing. I asked you what you ate last week. You ain't tell me, but it's cool. I was trying to relate to you last night on some pregnant vibe shit. I just opened up Uber Eats and ordered some Popeyes on some nasty shit. Swag. I eat Popeyes maybe again once or twice a year. Sheesh. I ordered something. My girl told me about something. Oh, my God. You're going to. I'm going to pay for that in the morning. Shut the fuck up. I'm ordering Popeyes. Did you pay for it? Did you pay for it? Oh, my God, I paid for it. You paid for Popeyes? Yes. I did last week. Same thing. That toilet tore me up, boy. That shit was rocking. Not that we should start a big broadcast like that. Would you? Sorry. Sorry about that. You eat McDonald's but diss Popeyes? Yeah. You eat McDonald's? I'm not dissing Popeyes. I would never diss Popeyes. And I eat McDonald's. I eat McDonald's. Do you eat McDonald's? Sure. I mean, I miss how Popeyes became such a huge chain when they stole the family business from that black family in Louisiana. Oh. I didn't even know that happened. Me either. Ashley, let me stop spreading lies. That ain't the story of Popeyes. I was going to let you rock. No, that is the story. But I think they still have it. Go to Weird Food History. They got the whole history of Popeyes. You would love Weird Food History. It's on YouTube. It's good. Yeah. They break down the story. Like, every fast food restaurant, every food chain. Oh, I'm in there. I'm in there. Weird food what? History. I see YouTube. I love some rabbit holes on YouTube. I'm in there. That's what I do. It'll change your life. Here and here. I'm not like that. I mean, he's eaten Popeyes twice a year. I'm taking a stand against McDonald's on some GP shit just because of the prices. McDonald's did good. Outside of the food being bad. Nah, it'd be the Uber Eats, bro. That should be $20 than the Uber Eats. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can go there. I've gone to McDonald's and ordered the double quarter pounder meal and it's over $20. It's like $16. No, it's over $20. Go ahead and hit large. You don't be hitting large. Hit large. Nah. And then it's like none of the products changed, so why is it so much more expensive? The products changed, too. And the products have changed drastically. They better? Everything costs more. That's what I'm saying. Nigga, bread costs more. You would think, though, that you're paying more because it's better. Speaking of McDonald's. You think there's real ingredients in McDonald's? Hell no. Speaking of McDonald's, you know Monopoly back? Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got that right. You know they scamming and shit. It's a scam. I'm here for it. It's always been a scam. Yeah, people really trying to win that. What? Why we can't get a Monopoly game on some old school shit, man? Tear you bitch ass niggas up. Why we don't play no more? Because Monopoly takes hours. Let's just get one game. No, we used to do that. No, no, Monopoly don't take hours. Come on, let's just get one game on some old school shit sometime. They got some weird underground. Monopoly don't take hours? No. Mona. Not our version. Not the way they play. They got some weird. No, we just have a new Monopoly. It's called Mega Monopoly. It's a real game. It's not our shit. They got a speed die that speeds the game up. They got a third dice. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes the game way faster. Y'all are dweebs. I want to play. How do you even know that? Like, how do y'all know it's a new game? You've been playing the past 20 years. They're dedicated. You've been playing for 20 years. Dedicated Monopoly. Oh, this is like a friend group thing. All you niggas playing Monopoly. I don't play really, but they're hard- I know your cool ass ain't doing no dweeby shit like that. Other dweeby shit maybe, but not Monopoly. Yo, who won the last game? You. Oh. Oh, he scared you off the block. Oh, that's why y'all stopped playing. He took his rock and went home. Luckily for us, we've kept the record for the last 350 games. Oh. Luckily, we kept the record for the last 350 games. Are y'all serious? So y'all can ask him his record. Who has the best record? Joe. Joe. Like, by a lot? Yeah. You win by every game. Probably like the first 10 years, I was cracking them. And then the second 10 years, I think it just turned green. Y'all did see. Because he hired his assistant, though. I don't even know what that means. He hired his assistant. I don't even get it. What you mean? It's like, they jumping me, man. Yeah. That's what he's saying. Got you. Got you. Got you. This nigga thinks I cheat in everything I do that. I don't think you cheat. That's a lot of this shit that you can keep. No, no, no. I don't think you cheated. I never said you cheated. It's not cheating. Don't act like you cheating is up. Hired my assistant just now. Don't act like cheating is beneath you. No, cheating. Nothing's beneath me. I come from the slums. Nothing is beneath me. Hey, yo, dawg, let me tell you what used to happen. A couple things. Let me tell you what used to happen. A lot of things are beneath you, bro. The nigga used to have a McDonald's game in the bathroom closet. Monopoly. I mean, Monopoly game in the bathroom closet. So the nigga have to go to the bathroom. The nigga go to the bathroom. And switch them out. And be stealing money out the bathroom, right? So nobody knew this. One day I'm at the nigga old crib. I go looking for toilet tissue. It's a Monopoly game. This nigga is a piece of donkey shit. Joe, you are, that is fucking deplorable. That's terrible. I'm one of the worst people you ever met, moment. Yo. Like, what are you talking about? You know where I come from. You be thinking the nigga tapped. And then he'll go in his pocket and be like. Here come another $100 bill out of nowhere. Like, yo, fam. I come from digging in the cows. And it's just a regular game for friends. Just a game of Monopoly. It's a regular about this shit, Mona. Yes. I come from digging in my mom old coats when she go to work. You came out your bathroom with Monopoly money in your pocket. Yes. Indeed. I came from taking my mama rings from her mama to the pawn shop. Nigga, when she went to work. Do you know who you're talking to? I have done some of the most sleazeball shit there is. This shit, this is nothing. This isn't like my mom. This is my better days. What did y'all do? Did y'all jump on her? They started cheating, too. No. No. Don't do that. Nigga, Ish was the first one that knew about my little bathroom stash. And then he started going in there doing the bathroom stash. You was going in the bathroom? Yes. I told Ish. Oh, all right. I was going to say, come on. I don't do that. I will look at you differently if you do that. It's safe to swear to God you never went in our bathroom stash. Ish. What, us playing safe? No, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. It's like a time management. No, no, no. We went, yo, we went and played some other niggas for money. Oh, y'all was cracking up. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's different. That's different. Oh, nigga, that's to the grave. That was wild. That was wild. Hey, hey, raise that damn. Raise that damn. Against us, never. Against us, never. That was never, ever. Writing that down is crazy. The whole thing is crazy. Like, this is insane, bro. No, you can't say that out loud. He can't say that out loud. Yo. Right. My mom. My mom. Oh, my. Let's sit down. We got it. Yo, that's funny. Do y'all, on y'all list of things that y'all taking to the grave, do you have a few items on there that's just silly, but fuck it? Yeah. Probably, yeah. That's a probably. No, all my taking to the grave is taking to the grave. Yeah. So, like, one of Jim's. He just dropped one of my silly ones. I bet that was never getting out. That was going to death. What we did at the Monopoly games. To the grave of the Monopoly team. Oh, man. Whatever, man. Come on. Let's have a good time. Damn. Do, do, do. I don't know what I'm doing. Ooh. In the new mall with a few broads and a shoe store. Got the new broads and shoes in the two-door. With the blue galore. Shirt open with the jeans on. Where she just going? Whole New York City was popping out there. Big Jersey whenever you see me. Just in the back whispering. Now I'm listening. I woke up in a sporty thieves mood, man. Cut. I dare y'all think I can't hear y'all. We need more talk. Y'all bitches going to walk. What? We just sing. We ain't buying that. I ain't buying that, of course. This isn't an era of rap when it was cool to not have no bitches. It's cool to not trick. Like, these niggas just shit it on. I guess. It's a hard dick check. After I spit, I want you quick at my apartment. Strike them and get the right thing done. Listen to all this misogyny. Misogyny was in, man. The good old days. Nah, we got to clean it up now with some shit. Jibbery. All the way for the ladies. This might be the last one. Before I switch. Can I do what? Can you believe this? I can't believe shit happened to the same guy twice. Ah. Ah. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you Don't play me like a clown I'll admit, I like how you kick it Now you're talking, baby, that's the ticket Now don't get excited and chuck your boots Are we old? I'm old, shit I know all the words to this shit Yo, I played this shit the other day My barber was like, what the fuck are you listening to? What your man got to do with me? And this one playing the girl part too, right? Yeah, that's the girl part Some talent Yo, I ain't gonna front When niggas learn that I got a man Don't have to be the end of the conversation Like, when niggas start learning replies to it Yeah, that's what's great Like, when niggas found out that you can't have friends Oh my God, ramp it Ramp, ramp it out there Street harassment went up Yo, chef, cause you keep giving me soup Yo, street harassment Mark Mark, don't say street harassment again This is day one of street harassment Oh, wait No, wait, that's something I've heard Don't try to kick ass with me later All them girls must got you, yeah When they see a good thing, they don't let it pass All right, man If you're looking good Come on, man If you're looking fine Everything's gonna be all right Yeah, yeah, yeah Everything's gonna be all right Whole Long Island, what up out there? Yonkers, what up out there? I'm about it tonight Father, break it down It's a weekend with a groove We're all about 18 Now, what's up? What's my next move? Yo, hey Oh, yeah, man Say something else I go grab my roller skate Say something else Oh Pulling up with Jodeci Passing out for 15 All right, girl See my gear She was like the Benjamins when I was eight Mic check, one, two, one, two Mic check, one, two, one, two Come on Let the music take your soul My ass Yeah Yeah My body All right, let me get the round of applause going for the best broadcast on earth. Let me get these drops out the way real quick Welcome to episode 975 of the Joe button podcast brought to you by fueled by power by prize picks price pitch gang Yeah, I'm your humble gracious grateful extremely happy to be here very well rested Host Joe button here with a few really amazing people to my right Oh Huh who's ready for a pajama jammy jam We got philadelphia's finest don't call her white girl debona big mona in the building mona How you doing? I'm doing amazing. Good. Absolutely. Love that next to her, huh? Big dr. Mark lamont hill philadelphia 76 is two and oh front row You seen him when mb was shooting the free throws big mark in the building mark. How you doing, man? Oh, never better man. Good good. Absolutely. Love that next Next to him. Come on the beigest of them all Mr. Thousand doors and not big ish in the building. It's what's poppin What's up next to him, huh? The freeziest of them all mr Take it further himself big freeze in the building freeze. How you doing man? I'm good man. Good good. We love that We got Elmira's finest big parks in the building. What's pop? We got big Poe in the building anybody that was playing with Poe You should stop it immediately. We told you last pod. We got big quarry in the building We got Mona's friend that's been there before in the building Erickson is here tanner and savannah hereby remote last but certainly not least each and every one of you very important people out there are here What's poppin? What's cracking? It's good a whole bunch of nothing man. Yo ice. How you feeling? I'm great, man I feel amazing - and oh - and oh - and oh - I'm not trying to know you are you I'm simply Channing your record. No, no, no, no, no because what happens? Everybody Know you was planning on coming. I wasn't I wasn't I was chilling but I'm not the person you bout to describe then be quiet Yeah, and then when that wind happened, it was all the Knicks was hung over off. They championship shit That's a half time of the Cavaliers game. I saw the tweets. It's crazy. Yeah, I saw all of them I said, hey, it's another half left. Yeah Six is over came the biggest deficit in bronze career and Sixer career. Sixer history, excuse me. To win that game against both teams that went to Eastern Conference Finals last year. So, yeah, we only talking shit because y'all was ready to talk shit. And some people said we were going to start 0-2. Some people in this room said we were going to be 0-2. Some people in this room said, oh, y'all starting 0-2 then. I want the viewing audience to just please remember nobody in this room today said a word other than 2-0. 2-0. That's all you can say. I was pointing at the camera. It was spicy, though. It was very spicy. It was too spicy. It's too much sauce on it. It was a good game, though. Cool out. Well, so about that 0-2 start, how you feel? Yeah, how you feeling? I said that? Yes. Yes, it was you. Another one? It was you. Oh, I don't remember. It's like it's Instagram time. What I'm supposed to say? Like, what the fuck? Time management can see you. Y'all won two games. It's cool. I ain't knocking it. Mm-hmm. Okay. And you ain't celebrating it either. Yeah, like, who the fuck cares about. It's 82 games. Okay, that's peace. And B, coming this month, motherfucking walking like with a cane, and LeBron motherfucking got sciatica. I want to hear y'all come in here and say the same shit. We'll see. We going by where we at right now. Listen, I'm happy for y'all, man. 2-0. Come on, man. That's all you can be. I know. That's the point. Like, y'all played who was in front of you. Y'all won both games, both tough games in the Eastern Conference. Come on, man. And y'all only get better from here. No doubt. Yeah, that's actually what I think. You want some chemistry and cohesion to get together, y'all gonna be all right, man. Y'all gonna be all right. 2-0. 2-0. I remember them days, man. When you was just happy for scraps? Yeah. When, like, how you started the season was. We lose either way. I remember. Right. We lose either way. I'm happy for them. You lose either way. I don't have no animosity in my heart for these dudes. We only brought you in because you said we was going to be 0-2. No, because you said something before. You was trying to say we was going to be 0-2. That's why we brought you in. Had you not said that, I wouldn't have said nothing to you. Period. Jesus, man. Yeah, man. But the atmosphere. Good for y'all, man. The atmosphere and feeling was good. A lot of people came out. That opening night game that y'all beat the Knicks, that was a disgrace on both sides. That was a real ugly game to watch. Well, I felt good about it. I'm sure you did. I'm sure you did. Defensively, I thought we looked really good at sixes. We were a mess offensively a little bit, but I saw some promise in defensive things. But, um. I give LeBron's new ball D a 10 paws. That's. He looks good. Should have done it a long time ago. LeBron. Yo, dudes look great when they look good. When they try to look their age. It ain't the worst thing in the world. No, it's not. It ain't. No, nigga. Yeah, no, it looks good. It's a lesson for all y'all out there. And Philly got some really, really, really good barbers. So, nigga, line up with the ball D. That shit look dope. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's true. Are we done with y'all sixes praise? I don't want to step on nothing. No, we cool. We cool. All right, cool. I think we have to start with the kerfuffle at the garden. The squats, yeah? Yeah, it's been a show. It's been a shit show there, man. Squabbling at the garden. Yeah. That's where we got to start. Opening night. Funkmaster Flex, who we spoke to, I want to say, minutes before the main event. That's crazy. We were the last conversation. If I was one of those guys, that would be the post. Yeah, that's it. The last talk Flex had. Yeah. This shit might work, too. You got some? Yeah. But anyway, soon as we stop recording, all madness breaks out at the garden. There's a fight between DJ Funkmaster Flex and Shadow. Shadow is a long-time fucking music industry radio kind of guy. If you know Shadow, if you've ever been around, you know Shadow. Was there a fight, though? I mean, no. It was a kerfuffle. It was a kerfuffle. It wasn't a fight. No, no. It wasn't even a scuffle. So now, let me start with my question to the distinguished panel is, how old do you have to be for the expectation of your fight game to change? Damn, that's a good question. That's a great question. Joe, you good at this. I think it depends on who you fighting. Yes. I think over 50, it don't. No. If you fighting another 50-year-old. Yeah. No, it don't matter, y'all. It don't. Once you like pretty, like gray-gray, like to the point where you like, your walk is different. Like you walk like you older. That's all of us. Once you at that point, no, like it's noticeable. From the back, I can tell you're 60. Like that type of walk. Then, if you fight funny. That's all of us. Theoretically, it fits. At 50, you shouldn't have had a fight for a minute. Quite some time. Flex 58. Yeah. Is he? He's 60. Damn. At 58, you should have gone, come on, Eric. He looks good. You should have more years not fighting than you have fighting. That's right. But that's the thing. To me, it wasn't even his skill. It's all like fucking, how's that shuffling he did? Why? His footwork was good. He was almost like, put him up. Yeah, like the put him up. Like that type. No, no, like fight like that. The boxers in the 20s were like. Put up your nukes. Yeah, that's how he looked. He looked like one of them old school fighters. Like when Ali was cashed. I'm dead serious. That don't look weird to y'all. That's why when we chatted about it a little bit off camera, I said, I didn't even know what the other guy was doing because Flex looked so stupid to me. I couldn't take my eyes off of him. Like, oh my God, what's he doing? It was jarring. But my God don't play about me. If you're a long time listener to this podcast, you understand my relationship with my higher power. It's super, super, super thorough. So when we had that academics Flex call, I'll be honest with you guys. When I hung up. You were tight. I fell down. I fell down on myself. You were very tight. It was tight. And my intrusive thought said. Should have bought the tickets. Act and Flex. Is that the garden? Period. Silence. So you can hear my intrusive thought. You're such a classist bastard. No, I don't know. Close the neighborhood. I said, academics and Flex is at ring night at the garden for the Knicks? Intrusive thought. I can't say it. Yo, you're terrible, bro. So then I got home and seen the Flex fight. And God, that was like God tapping me on the shoulder and saying. That's why. Hey, I'm always, I always look out for you, boy. I'm always make sure you where you need to be. And where you don't need to be. I gave you the gift of foresight and intuition, my man. Don't ever doubt. Don't ever doubt me. You think you needed to be somewhere with Flex? Flex at the Knick game. I don't think y'all understand. I ain't seen Flex at no Knick games. And act at the Knick game. Ugh. Ugh. That's hate. That's hate. That's hate. That's hate. Listen, I'm just telling you something. And once I seen, once I saw the video. And now I know where they was fighting. They were fighting the little downstairs area, right? Dog, y'all are fighting in the private. Food and bar area. The private. In VIP. Yeah, in the VIP food and family section. In this level. I wasn't looking at Flex. Everybody was like, what the hell? Everybody was like, oh, what the fuck? They wasn't just fighting around 7th Avenue Knick fans. Hey, Ice, what do you think they were saying in there? Yeah, what was that? Some hard ERs. I was about to say, was it hard R? Because that's what I thought. For sure, it was some hard Rs. I thought you said hardy horrors. No, hard ER. I don't know. Yeah, damn. Still, that was racist bait that you threw at them. The bait was racist. Yo, they was fighting where the sushi is. Yo, can't fight around sushi, yo. You can't. But you can't say that. That's not true. You can't fight around kids, bro. I mean, yeah, agreed on all that. I'm just saying. I don't think Flex was. That is the last place. That somebody was supposed to try to set it off at. That I agree. Yo, if you there and you see somebody you a little oppy with, you supposed to keep it cool. We had the Knick gang. It depends. It don't depend on nothing. You will jeopardize your right to enter this building. Bro, depending on what the violation was. And unless you Charles Oakley, nobody be really with that. Damn, depending on what the violation was that got us to this point, some niggas is willing to jeopardize entering the Knicks building if I might not see this person again. And it's close. From what I understand, dude had an issue, a real issue. Who, which one? That. Flex had an issue? No, no, no. All of Shadow had an issue. Flex had an issue. Chase and Flex around. And if what was being reported, if it's over that, some niggas is willing, I'll take this ban for that. I'm telling you out there that that's poor behavior. That might be true. That's poor behavior. That might be true. Were you? Most people that spent money to be there, they spent money. They spent money to be there. Of course. They want to go to having many games. They chose to be at it. Nobody want to be banned from the Garden. You don't. You don't. Unless you fucking King Vaughn. Rest in peace. This is a bad decision. Is that how the Garden rock? You fight in your band? Especially depending on where you are. They got surveillance and shit. You definitely banned from there. You in the VIP? If you in the exclusive area where the fucking, we want to make it comfortable for our big ticket. Our A-listers is down here. Yo, the Garden security was confused. I believe you. I'm telling you. I believe that. Like normally when you backpedal like Flex did, you bought yourself enough time for somebody to come and interrupt this. I thought that's what was going to happen. Well, that's why I was saying I wouldn't say they. Because Flex wasn't trying to fight. He was trying to, and I'm not clowning him. I'm saying like, he was clearly the business decision. Yeah, he was trying to buy time. He was talking loud and moving backwards, like waiting for somebody to intervene. Help! Help! Help, help, quick, help. Yeah like Flex got on his Socials and was like I'm from the Bronx I'll square up anywhere Which made me say We have to define Square up Yeah cause what the fuck Square up I guess could count If you backpedaling The whole time Yeah it still counts Maybe he was Squared up in the Late 70s Early 80s That's probably That square up He was still squared up Back then In the event that Something were to happen He was prepared What a long route He was going Square up to me Don't say that Even though you May be right Square up to me Don't say that It don't scream I'm It doesn't scream Mobile I'm being mobile Square up To me screams I'm stationary Right let's go Let's go No no You can move But you're not On the go Right You can move in a fight But If you clearly Are trying to get The fuck out of there I'm not calling that A square up Sorry I love Flex Like the next guy I mean he ain't Turning around and Bust off running I got His walk backwards game Is nice I got two different views I feel like That's contradictory to Wanting to come back To the garden Like he wants to come Back to the garden So I'm not gonna be The aggressor In this situation I got seven figure Business deals I really don't wanna be In this situation But I'm gonna put my hands Up to defend myself But I really do want Somebody to come Break it up Yeah and that's What he was doing He was backing up He was loud He was like you know We're having a fight We can do this fight Right here You know the niggas What What what what What's up nigga I'm telling you Them people They fought around Some of them niggas Just stood in a long line For a cold brew And stood there To have it When Flex came Yo niggas That's all I was looking at Was the surroundings Beer dropping Yeah I just got my shit man Yo let me tell you something Not only did security Not only were they Not prepared for that Because who the fuck's Doing that in here Nobody does that The security they got there Is not for that The security they got there Is for To bring you to the right seat Right Ushers Yeah Kick you out You need a top for that Ticket's not right But even the kick out Is served Yeah It's a peaceful kick out You're not prepared For no type of aggression Unless it's Charles Oakley They not be there for that So for that to be Shadow and Flex I don't know man Were they put out y'all Did the police Like did they come And put them out I'm sure they didn't Go back to they seat But yo you said something Earlier that I do think Is interesting Which is like At what age Should you not have To do that If we was 25 And that happened We would be laughing I would feel different Yeah But I think I think the age is 50 Maybe even High 40s I think yeah Mid 40s When what Really Well you shouldn't Have the expectation That your fight game Is going to be up Or that you Usually have to do it I can tell you At 43 It would have to be Some very dire circumstances For me to be fighting In a nice place Whether it's a garden Or a nice restaurant I don't care if it's A shitty place Yeah honestly I don't care if it's A shitty place I'm trying to avoid it I'm trying to avoid A fight at all costs You might as well Tell the person Versus pretending You want to fight And backing off It would be to Pick up speed And punch Some niggas would have Some niggas would take it Oh you running from me I'm going to catch you Whether they throw Something at you Or really chase you Or whatever So why He trying to kill Two birds with one stone I'm going to look tough And I'm not going to fight Now you just look silly I heard it was a conversation First And the conversation Escalated to that Right but this is What I'm saying No matter which way it went You are scared Pretending that you're not That's why you're doing all this You don't want to fight You want to fight If you stand there and say I don't want to fight brother That's what I'm saying But if you had a conversation First And you tried to diffuse it In a person I'm not saying this is what happened I'm just saying If you had a conversation first And you tried to diffuse it In a person still Like you know You familiar with that But Mona Mona Mona Mona Why can't it be Give a bonus Because Flex did also Speak out saying that I got a legal situation With them And this would make This would complicate that So if I If I Again I'm thinking smart here I don't want to get into A physical altercation with you Because we got some other shit Going on Yeah but in the story I heard that I wasn't Supposed to hear Flex initiated the conversation I bet It's always that person Which is where the problem is It's always that person The one that ends up like that Always is the one Because if you know Somebody got an issue With you And it's somewhat And we at the Nick game Don't say shit to me Don't say nothing to me Don't say nothing to me I didn't hear that You already know where we at Don't say nothing to me This here too No to y'all hands Because these are two Grown successful businessmen This ain't the place Even if someone's suing you Or whatever I don't know the story at all But I'm not about to Swing on somebody By Flex's own account There's an active case Yeah So by By active case rules If you see that person You go the other way Y'all is it a lawsuit Or a criminal case What are we talking about A case A civil case But if you If you trying to get Again we just being objective But if you trying to get An understanding You know what I'm saying Like yo let me have a conversation With a level Who had an individual That might be what He was trying to achieve Or you might say Did he achieve it Or you might say Because we here in the VIP At the Knicks Ain't nobody gonna do nothing It ain't gonna go But so far here That's what people do sometimes That's what they do Like I haven't seen you Let's have a real conversation Like men Cause it's security here In a situation where You're not gonna set it off In this VIP It's like if two niggas Had an issue And happened to see each other At your birthday party It ain't gonna happen in there Sure It'll be like alright I'll try to talk to this nigga Right here Yeah Because the odds of us Trying to fuck this up Is very slim And still you have no business Approaching that person You can fuck out my face That's a bad idea Joe Party and Nicky Ain't bad spots And I'm gonna blame Whoever initiated that conversation Facts Cause that's the one And both of y'all Is gonna be banned From the event Forever Actually we had that happen At a birthday party It was before Yeah Imani and Vern Well I wasn't gonna say Their names But yeah Yeah Imani and Vern While I'm upstairs Trying to put on some shit That I couldn't fit in And they tried to have A conversation there Because it's Joe Party It's not gonna go but so far And I was mad at both of them Y'all did that shit In front of my mom It went left You did that shit In front of my parents What are we talking about Stop playing with me Now I gotta fight Both of you niggas Yeah I take I take certain shit Yeah I do I do I'm weird like that Anyway Flex Muay Thai Right That's what it is That's one of them That's one of them Jiu Jitsu Karate Brazilian Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Karate He could use Yo A small playground Near your home For real That's where Like at the early stages You go to the playground Hit the monkey bars And get a little A pull up A push up His knees And back paddling Look good He was quick on his feet Yeah He was moving He's mobile He lost some weight He looked good He looks good Shadow just still Looked too cool While he was walking up to him Nah He even popped Yeah he hit him With one of those He fainted The funny shit is If you know Shadow You know him This is even funnier Because Nicest guy in the world He's a mild mannered guy Nicest guy in the world Nicest guy in the world Wow He ain't on none of that Just a nice Business guy So you know There's gotta be some bull Already Got all his money already You know there's gotta be Some bull He ain't He's not what this looks like He ain't Until People be that Until Something happen Yeah don't take much What's some other Fighting techniques I could recommend to Flex In case this happens to him Again Cause I like Flex man He play a lot of my records I ain't got no beef with him Boxing Boxing Good old fashioned boxing Wrestling Although at 60 You might wanna take it to the ground Also at 60 I don't expect you to be able to Look like fucking Manny Pacquiao Yeah Like I don't I don't At 60 It kinda look like What it's supposed to look like At 60 Yeah basically Valiant effort And a run Yeah I'm still I'm still I'm still here In case something ever happens But I'm not really trying to fight I ain't looking for it Yeah you gotta stand your ground But on some pussy shit Yo cause I wish y'all Come get this nigga Right Fuck taking y'all so long I don't wanna start On one side of the bar I'm on the other side Or he could get mace That's how That's what I'm saying Your surroundings Is always part of the fight I'd have threw every porterhouse At that nigga's face Get some soy sauce From the sushi bar Some wasabi Them little double cheeseburgers That's fresh off the grill That'd be hot It would've been Lava balls flying Flying at your Motherfucking face nigga And that shit If it would've turned Into a food fight That would've been entertaining That's what it was Supposed to turn into That's what it was supposed to There's nothing Around you but food I seen Flex But he was walking backwards So he ain't seen The dessert He ain't seen The dessert bar right there Nigga what Lava cake to your Bow nigga Are you crazy If you throw one of them Shits and hit the wrong person Aiming the wrong way Yo ass going to jail now Oh my They're locking Y'all niggas up Under the Dog sometimes The wrong person Gotta get hit for this thing To get broken up In the amount of time That I want to get broken up That's a fact I agree You hit a white woman With some shortcake It should be done We in the VIP area Of the garden Little funnel Okay That little That little last fight I had in the strip club When I was I had the old money I had them But I felt like Security guy Was taking his sweet time A little bit Yo the time moves It moves different Fight time moves different For sure In fight time I'm holding this thing Like yo Is anybody coming over here Or is this on me To get back to my feet Oh you was holding Them on the ground Yes The whole ground Is slippery We both fell to the ground So now I just got the thing I'm like You was under him He about to break this up You was under him Yeah but he was scrawny No if you under him You definitely like Yo get this nigga But it wasn't him I had a I could see behind him So I could see All the people he had with him No nigga I understand That was just standing there Watching That's why I said So I'm like Oh somebody has to come hurry No Somebody gotta Cause the nigga I'm staring at He got some side problems He's doing me a favor right now Nigga here come Here come Tim and them Nigga Timbaland Like what the fuck Did you talk to him on the bottom that nigga was so big I'm like why didn't you send him to this first this would have been totally different anyway Flex man yo see and Serato is fucking up the game on some old school shit you'd add your crates with you nigga hitting that nigga with Bob Marley and your crate team yeah crate team crate team was low key security nigga and it's fucked up cause they both was looking good Flex had the Kiff Nicks coat on he was looking fire Shadow looked nice that's why he didn't start the food fight everyone's dressed too good down there also I feel like I should make this general announcement to the women that are listening if you're ever around and you see two men getting into it just move yo it was a girl following it trying to break it up right that was his lady oh okay that was his lady yeah that's not the right yeah she wasn't helping at all also let me tell the fellas out there if you out with your lady and you about to get into it and your lady say chill try to chill yo I was gonna say y'all never listen to the girl say stop babe yeah or just have enough fucking discernment not to get into no shit when you with your chick yeah fuck all them other people when you a bitch with you like fuck on date night at the garden ring night at the garden ring night at the garden yeah nah your girl got dressed first time y'all wanted 53 years and yeah y'all got olive green on together Flex we love you man anybody got any more to say or they said Flex was doing the Lil' Kim that shit looked crazy yo it did look like it did look like the Lil' Kim yo what's the Lil' Kim you know that yeah yo don't do that oh man oh man oh man and also while we just talking about fight etiquette I'm not mad at the back pedal but we gotta be outdoors no you gotta back pedal if you outdoors no you can't you can't have a little fun no because on your back pedal outdoors you can go in a circle yes that's what I'm saying you know what I mean you can go in a circle yes you can't I'm not condoming you I'm not mad at Flex now that I'm pondering it like yo dog he can't really go in a circle you got tables and people and shit that's his back he was hitting the tables no in that situation I'm not moved no it's square up stationary prove to me what you about to do when you get over I'm not gonna keep backing up cause eventually there's gonna be no way to back up to no let's do it let's get it and I need the space I need the space don't corner me in no wall but you trying to fight no I'm not I'm trying to defend myself but in the event that he do something I'm not gonna get chased somewhere I'm trying to buy time until he break it up for security I don't think he I don't think he I don't want to lock up with this nigga in a confined space sometimes you need that space bro like what you talking about there was nowhere to go that was dumb hey Flex you was supposed to you was supposed to have your lugs on old school nigga we stomping niggas out in the lugs the brown shits the old school shits with the hard shell at the top of the toe come on Flex come on man oh man fuck you ish we did this before yes I had lugs I know you told me I want to bring it back I was in the 5th grade I wouldn't even know how them shits felt you talking about they had a hard toe I had lugs I was in the 5th grade lugs was the shit at that point I mean let's not get crazy you too good for one year I got to jump too far away it was one year where lugs was cute I didn't have lugs fuck y'all lugs was in for one year it was like 98 or 99 you might be older you might have been like it was only one year I was too good for lugs I'm not trying to act like nigga I wasn't too good for lugs I'm listening you had Eastlands too right no I have lugs either but I just not wasn't too good for them okay you got it fam I was pardon me if lugs was a low income option right then why did both of us have them my mother had a good job lugs were in for like a year one of those rappers that somebody was wearing I remember that fuck master flex I asked for lugs no by the time by the time birdman was on the day it was corny already it was before that was your your mom got lugs because she couldn't afford anything else or she wouldn't buy me none no oh that's not I asked for them lugs were kind of they had a moment they had a moment they had a small little moment the black was like the CO boot looking one that's what it was like 98 I just said that 98 or 99 oh I'm talking about way before yeah that's what I'm saying I'm talking about way before they didn't come out way before yeah lugs came out 96 yo let me ask you something black gore-tex vast gaze or lugs lugs came out lugs started in 1993 and I said 96 a bitch know what she talking about established but when did they like I remember lugs when did they hit in the beginning of high school I started high school in 93 like 93, 94 I was in junior and I bitches had them and I wanted them and I got an X word period I don't know oh okay but growing up should I have let me not say that but growing up I couldn't have none of the fly footwear Vasquez you talking about later I'm not knocking nobody even the Eastlands had a minute I hear y'all over there joking yeah Eastlands had a little minute anyway we on some old nigga shit um Flex we love you man we hope everything is good Shadow we love you as well oh my god y'all can do what y'all want now I ain't gonna be the gay go ahead fight every night so now you don't feel bad about not having the tickets anymore no I don't feel bad you know what I'm so happy of what it wasn't you in there doing the pirouette our phones would've we couldn't have came to work today my nigga that would've never happened to me I know where all the X's are backpedaled right out the backpedaled right out the you got them out of there quick not only do I know where all the X's are but I'm gonna be in that little sushi area when nobody is in there that's true I'm gonna be in there when there's still three minutes left in the half that's true three minutes left in the game I'm not playing with none of them niggas are you crazy that shit bad yeah I'm getting out of there alright what else what else what else music music music let's talk music we got some music what came out in music where do you wanna start you wanna start with snow we can start with snow let's go we got another single and a date for the album November 13th oh shit it's coming soon nice alright snow new snow Allegra I'll never let you down baby I'll never let you down baby I think I saw that she had Nell Rogers and Raphael Sadiq on his joint. All right, all right, reaction, reactions, reactions. It's Prince-ish. It's Prince-ish. Sound like the 80s. It's Prince-ish. I think that's what they were going for. Yeah. It likes some 80s vibes. It's very Prince-coded. Yeah, I love it. Which I like. Not what I was expecting. It's not just, no, that I loved. You know, Odo's Feels Again is, like, to me, one of my favorite albums of all time. And I almost unfairly hold it to that standard. But I like the pivot here. I like the music. I like the production. I think it's dope. It's just not what I was expecting. I think it depends on what the rest of the album sounds like. You know what I'm saying? I like it, though. Again. As a first single, it kind of catch you by surprise, because it's not what we're accustomed to. Second single. Oh, second. Yeah, it is the second. But I like it. And I don't know if any of these shits are really singles. Yeah. Second track released. Right. She's not necessarily, like, a singles artist, per se. Yeah. And shit, she announced the album date. The album date is in two weeks. Three weeks. Something like that. It's close. When you're doing that, they're not depending on it. They're doing the new thing, where they put an album out, they put a single out, whatever money they're going to donate. If it's going to dump, they'll do it later. So singles is still, you know. I like it. I like it. It's cool. It's cool. Yeah. I could listen to this instrumental and be fine, is my problem. That's what I was going to say. That's my problem with it. Snow sounds good on it. She does. But now Rodgers and Raphael Sadiq doing some Prince shit. Not bad at it. I mean, that's not going to lose. Yeah, I'm not mad at Snow. I agree with Ish. I think, let's see. The direction this album is going. She's been teasing a lot of Prince on her socials. And I think she had a relationship, a professional relationship with Prince at one point. She was like a protege or something at one point. I think I remember hearing something like that. I don't know to what extent or degree, but. I'm a little nervous because I don't see a world where this song and that Karma song live on the same project. I can see where this and the Instagram thing live on the same. Project was saying, was saying, yeah, yeah, but karma now, I don't know. Yeah, and they're close to the track list, too. You know how like the Karma shit could be at the beginning of the album and it makes it they're close. They're right at the same time on the track list. There's already like a preorder. There's already it's not a whole track list. They're actually back to back to how many songs to enter 1313. Yeah. Actually, I take it back. This is Prince. He's Prince Prince. I take it back. I take it back. This is Prince. That's Prince. Yeah. - Okay, I'll tell you where she's going with it. - The problem with that is, It's not Prince. Gets tricky. Yeah, it gets a little tricky. Like, I think if Prince was alive, he would kill all of this shit. I don't know. If they had a relationship, he might. Oh, no. Well, not relationship withstanding. I'm saying if Prince was alive. Professional relationship, I want to be clear. I think, you know. Yeah. If Prince was alive and just saw this happening in the ethos, I think he would sit there with that face from the tribute face. I mean, if Prince was alive, he might have been in the studio. Yeah, he might have played a part in it. If they have a relationship. It just goes back to what I said to Imani when we played the AI thing of Michael Jackson singing Kiss of Life by Sade. And then Imani was joking and said, all right, you keep playing. We're going to get the AI version of Mike doing Purple Rain. Newsflash for you, buddy. That's not going to happen. Prince is Prince. So when you're fucking with these Prince sounding joints, without Prince, it ain't going to do it. I'm saying Prince. What he just did vocally over records is just like, you put yourself in a tough spot. Yeah. Like, I see some of the talk now about her vocal performance, and it shouldn't be about that on this record after a five-year hiatus. Yeah, this ain't a diva record. Like, she's doing what she's supposed to do. I like the song. I'm going to play the song again. I'm still really excited for the album. Me too. Go Snow. She looks great. Yeah, she does. She looks amazing. Yeah, she really does. And we love Snow, man. We love Snow. What else we got? What else we got? Music. Young Miami dropped her album. Hey! She did. Album. Excuse me. Album is called Watch This. It is 21 tracks. I gave it a quick listen earlier today. I am fucking with about 80% of this album. At least 75%. It's not for me, but it wasn't bad. I just fuck. The Take Me to Chanel record with Quabo and G Herbo, fucks with it. 2008 Jeezy, fucks with it. I thought you'd like that one. Yeah. And I can hear him on that one. What'd you think about the song to JT? Um, I mean, I get it. Yeah. I appreciate it. I was impressed by that. I appreciate it. I appreciate what she was doing with that record. I wouldn't even think she would do nothing like that. That was all that. Yeah, I appreciate it. I like the Dade County shit with Ross and them. Yes. That shit was awesome. Yes. Okay, help me out here. What you got? Where is this album 21 tracks? Did you download it and it only had 10 or 11 or some shit? There's 12 songs on here. There's a. I did the same thing. I think they redid it. Oh, okay. Because when I first downloaded it, it was like 10, 12 songs. You know what I think it is? Because a couple of these, like, put together has an interlude and then a separate. No, it came out and it had all the interludes, but it stopped at a certain point. Yeah. The version I got is 21. Yeah. Because everybody kept talking about a Dear JT song, and that's not on nothing that I have. Track 19. Just track 19 on this one, yeah. Do you want me to play it? Yeah, please. Yeah. See, I remember when it was Get That Ass Miami and JT on the track. Oh. Yeah, it's not what people. Yeah, it's this. She did it on the album. One of my favorite samples. Let's go, Carisha. It's hard to fuck this sample up. JT, we done came a long way. From extra pink, that's a bitch, that's a writing check. Before the city girls wave before Carisha, please. It was you and me. F-I need a house, trying to make ends meet. You know how the crew be. Shootouts and broad day. Drain heads, ride around on them Benchys. Fire my pocket like dunk riders riding. Everybody know what a bitch for my ain't right now. We done had some dark times. We done had some hard times. Through hands that faded, bitches, who don't cross lines? Mama got locked up, and then you got locked up. Dealing with the truth. Dealing with a lot of stuff. Ain't gon' lie, we had a girl. I know what that mean. Now if you lay me on, we getting flewed out. Shopping in Barcelona, that's what we do now. A lot of shit done changed, everything new to me. Feels like I'm new to you, girl. I'm new to you, bye. Shit, I'm bad, yo. Yo, this album is good, yo. Shit, this album is good. It's pretty solid, right? This album is good. I'm proud of her. I'm not gonna cry. Oh, go ahead, Carisha getting vulnerable. I appreciate the fuck out of this. Yeah, me too. They'll call you a homegirl, man. Or make a beautiful song for her. Oh, yeah. Sometimes you gotta do it this way. Cause I know they got a narrative. Falling out with my sister in public, so embarrassing. When you went in, I held it down, no comparison. Now we ain't seeing eye to eye, I wonder why. When you was there, I used to act blind. We used to get our periods at the same time. We was like sisters. All right, that's TMI. If I was amazing, the kid, I would be with you. That's how in sync they was, bro. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Bitches are so stupid. We sync. Excuse me, fellas. You heard that. You know when women are together all the time, your periods just sync. Yes. So it's really just saying we was that locked in. Yeah, I understand. I mean, you got it from the beginning. I'm not talking to you. I got it. It's still a little TMI. Nah. Just a tad. That's a nice answer. A tad TMI. It's always great, though. I like it. Yeah, she did a good job. Joe? What, man? We letting her do this? Nah, that's what they say. It's the fact. In jail, the whole period will be in her period at the same time. That's why you run out of pads and shit, because the whole jail ends up, you know, the unit goes, you have your period at the same time. You send them through the toilet. So it don't speak to how tight they are. Yes, it does. It just speaks to the amount of time they spend together. For sure. You spending time with somebody, a lot of time, you typically are tight. Or why the fuck I'm standing around you. Especially if y'all trapping together. That's how she put it. I never want to hear that again from a girl. I don't. Y'all trying to make it make sense. Don't put that in no song, y'all. Shut up. Don't put, imagine if a dude did that. Yo, my dicks used to get hard at the same time. That's what y'all be doing. Y'all do that shit all the time. Y'all do it every time. Every time I film with you two, y'all do exactly that. The beef be about who dick was hard first, who dick was harder. It's both who dick's hard at the same time for facts. Well, mine's got hard first, because I was paying. He was in the car, warming it up. Giving the old thing away. Rev. Yo, I don't want to hear that no more, Gareech. Anyway, blame it. Blame it. Our period is over. Get the fuck out of here. Mama, Dave, Tommy, and Louise. At the pad, niggas on they knees. JT, do you love me? Do you love me? Reminiscing in my feelings about 2018. It was a scene. Shit, crazy nine. Our relationship ain't what it used to be. We supposed to be together, but I guess it ain't meant to be. Since we could have made history, and we done grew apart. No, that's no more. And I'm trying to be the one to let me in now. But now you're going away. And I, I feel so brokenhearted. I knew the day would start. Oh, shit. Hey, you know, you know who behind that, nigga. What is going on? All right. Wait a minute. Okay. Shots of Tiffany Evans. That's Tiffany Evans. Dad, go ahead, Tamar Braxton. That's motherfucking Kelly Price. All right, enough now. Enough. We got it, dog. That's nice. I liked it. There's some good shit on set. Yo, the album's all right, bro. I'm telling you. The album's all right. Well, I got to go listen to it now. I only heard 12 songs, and then three of them were spin that, and two of them were interludes. I was coming here ready to kick this girl's back. No, no, no, no, no. But that Ross, that Ross Trina record, hard. You want me to give some of it? Yeah, that record. Now, that record is hard. Let me tell you a bit of this. That record is hard. Yeah. Yeah. Nah, this ain't hard. This one's hard. Yeah. 305. Bitch, I may use it for the truckers and the dope, boy. Remember sliding through the heady when I was poor, boy. I can't lie, I got that slippin' slide. I touch you hoes to city grass, I got them trickin' ass. We the home of the goals and the quicksand. Respectfully, we can go to Trina. I like Ross' shit on there, too, bro. Yeah, I like it. Go to a little bit of Ross. No, no, go ahead and get a little bit of Ross. Go ahead and get a little bit of Ross. That was the one that was Kanye'd out. Yes, Kanye. Yeah. The good Kanye. But anyway. Anyway. Did anybody that listens to John Legend regularly listen to this album? I listened to that one song. I'm going to keep it a buck. The Clips record? Yeah. I went right there. Want me to play it? Yes. Is it good? I thought it was all right. Give him a spin. Heard the sound of the sirens penetrating the silence. Are we doing this again? Tell me this is not how it ends. Broken glass on the counter. Not another encounter. We go round for round, pound for pound. Over and over and over. After all we've lost. And all it cost. Some things we just can't afford to say. I can't keep repeating. All right. You can take the Clips. Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you. I'll try to be respectful. Stretch my hands to the Lord. Thank you. Come on, boss. The jewelry and the chinch. I'm out. Come on, boss. We don't have to fight no more. We can split the homes down the middle. Send them cars back to the dealers. The jewelry and the chinchillas. You can take them with you. I'm done chasing rainbows like Skittles. Every other text is a riddle. You can't be wrong and belittle. Tammy and Tamisha are no friends. They riding in your bins. You listening to women with no men. That don't make no sense. You trying to find me guilty with no prints. What's the BFF to all these BVSs? All your little girlfriends starting little messes. The only thing missing are their wedding dresses. While they was counting X's, you was counting blessings. You be sitting pretty. They happy with 50-50. Imagine going half on a loft outside the city. Sometimes silence is way worse than violence. Feel like we on two different islands. Oh, and there's blood on the tape. It's all right, John. It's all right. John, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, John. The hook is hard, too. Thank you, John. The hook was cool. We appreciate it, John. Push kills them verses. Yeah, he does. He's on a tear of just R&B. R&B shits. That shit he did on Lucky Day album, that verse is hard. That verse is hard. This verse is hard, too, even though I totally agree with the whole, let's just take everything during the divorce. Nah, let's fight for it. The fuck? You get in there talking that shit if you want. Well, he said you can keep the jewels and shit, but a bunch of that shit is. Maybe split the house. No, he said split the house. 50-50. The car's back. You get the car. The car's back. Yeah. Yeah. No? Hey, listen. Shout out to Pusha T, man. John Legend. Hell of a verse, Push. Hell of a run you on. John Legend, I just feel like I need to be more mature to get with. It's just the sound of his voice now. It's just too mature for me. It's too opera. I love him. Yeah, me, too. Me, too. I put it on. I was like, I don't know if this is for me. At least not right now. I'm listening to it all the time. On the road trip as we get. I'm going to give it a listen, man. Every album. I've never liked the album as much as I loved Once Again. That's the second album. You had that over Get Lifted. Yeah, I have it over Get Lifted. In terms of the song. But they both. I mean, they're both great albums. They're like. After Evolver, it kind of went downhill. That's the one that had Greenlight on it. But then every album, you're going to get one or two songs that you love. You just got to sit through. He's good for that. Yeah. So I want to at least see what the one or two songs that's going to be fire is on this album. Even if I don't love the whole album. Shout out to John Legend. Pharrell? The whole album is John and Pharrell. Yeah. Yep. Got it, got it, got it. Oh. I will check that out. That might change my mind. I'll check that out. Yeah, John Legend said Pharrell called him and said, yo, come do an album at the Louis Vuitton store in Paris. Oh, shit. He's like, all right. Sure. What do you say to that? All right. Fuck it. I'll be there. Like, that beat just now. Like, if there's no John Legend on that and you just posse cut that to some MCs, like, that's going to sound ridiculous. But whatever. Go Pharrell. Go Pharrell. Go Pharrell. I will go check that out now that Pharrell got to see what's going on. Pharrell call you and say, yo. No. Whole album. No. In Paris. Hell no. Are you crazy? Are you crazy? And in Paris. And I got to wear some Louis shit. Wait. I'm probably. You wear Louis shit. You want the hat, right? I'm not doing it. I don't wear Louis shit. And the record player? Huh? You wanted the hat and the record player? He got you. He didn't get me the hat. No, I'm saying. I know, but maybe if it. Come get it. And I'm not going to get the record player, but it's just a beautiful record player. It is a beautiful record player. It is really beautiful. No, but he's saying, I got you. Just come over here to Paris and get it. Lock him. Oh, my God. How cheap is the ass I'm selling? No. No, I'm not getting out of my house for a record player and a Scully Pharrell. Well, I'm sure there'd be some nice. And a classic album. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happened to Quavo. I think you're more talented. Thank you. I appreciate that. But no. Anyway. What else came out of music? And there's no slight to Pharrell either. Just no. I wouldn't. Anderson Paak is rapping. I've been with Cordae for a whole album. It sounded pretty good. I thought that it might be more Anderson Paak, Anderson Paaking, but it's really just a straight up rap album. That's my problem with Anderson Paak. Why? Like, at some point, can it just be you? Oh. I done got you with Bruno. I done got you with this guy. I done got you with the Free Nationals. I done got you with Summer Walker. I done got you with everybody but you. I guess it has been a while since I was there. Be by yourself and do something. Solo. Yeah. Solo album. Oh, I mean, the No Worry shit is just a producer. No Worry's Why Lord shit. That was pretty dope last year. But it's few and far between. Okay. But the album's pretty good. The album's pretty good. I would just like to hear some. I like Anderson Paak when he gets in his alternative bag. Musical bag. Yeah. But he's a pretty decent rapper. I was watching this. I didn't know if this album was actually going to come out. Because once it was announced, there's a company that Cordae is. Allegedly signed to. And they sued him for $25 million. Because he has contractual obligations that weren't completed. And they were like, you're skirting around that by going to do this album. This lawsuit was just filed like a week ago or two weeks ago. So, yeah. Are his joint ventures maybe an effort to get around some of his obligations? No, he's talking about Cordae. Oh, got you. Okay, okay. Oh, yeah. I have no idea. I don't know who he signed to or what he signed to. Or what. Are they really happy on it? Not as happy as the single. Where he said, I forgot what he said. He said some very pause-worthy shit in the single. I didn't catch any other erection bars. With the Magnum joint? I believe that's what it was. You can't fit it. No, you can't fit it. Yeah, that one. That one. I didn't hear any more of that. I can't believe y'all heard We Got Our Period at the same time. It was like, all right. It totally made sense. Her girls say that before, bro. A lot of girls say that. See, you be too busy trying to break the girls up so they're not cool no more. When they stay cool, you hear these type of things. I'm engaged. I wouldn't give a fuck if they're cool or not cool. I don't even remember none of that. I'm out of my bag. Jesus. Young Chris dropped an EP, too. It's actually pretty dope. Catch a vibe. Ah. They're rapping. Give us a little bit. How you ain't know that, Mark? Yeah, word. Word. Philly size. Man, it's been a rough week. And that's a rapper. If he'd have dropped it from Israel, Mark. We'd have killed him in a year. No, not Mark. He dropped an EP on the wall. No, no. You left it on the wall. Chill. Chill, miss. Chill, miss. Somebody just get in their boots. This is Sativa on the rooftop. Well done. Let's go, Young Chris. Remove the roof from the coop top. Rosé in a few shots. Come on, somebody just get in there. Remind them haters. Grammy nominated. Mama made it. Motherfucking devil bitch. I'm a devil bitch. Super Bowl out of Vegas. Roulette at the highest table. They know who the vibration. Keep it few to nine laters. Quarter million on the table. Half these niggas Asians. Circling niggas blocks. Now they circling niggas faces. Fishbowl in some spaces. When I'm skating, no mistaking. Gunna the one, ain't no debating. Give me the rock. Kobe weight in R.I.P. The greatest big dime. Gunna what's created. It'll be definitely on my kids' cry. That's the rules we live by. Blood, sweat, and tears. Shout out to Pappy fighting another homicide. To all these shits, they want him to rock. Homies making do-wag. He makes a lot. One in the top. Put one of your top. Keep running your chop. We put him in chop. Rectangle. Put him in box. Bag the bitch. Put her in fox. Make sure everything busts. Tell them hostess. Could've been us. Could've been us. Rose, Ace, and Tiva. Couple homies and some divas. Lemon drop. That's the Tiva on the rooftop. Yeah, that shit sounds good. I love it. Yeah, the whole tape is pretty much that kind of vibe. I like the rap. Sounds good. Yeah, he raps really well. Yeah, Chris is nice. Yeah, it's some nice soulful kind of beats for the most part. Chris has never, ever, ever not been hard like that. Word. Real shit. I ain't a rapper, rapper. 50,000 years straight since he was, when he was young. He's 16. That's crazy. Philly land of the spitters. It's normal shit. It's just something like. Here they go. Land of the spitters, you know? A lot of good spitters in Philly. It is. It is. Oh, I think. Oh, I just heard a homeless man fuck some shit up the other day. 10 minutes rapping shit. Speaking of Philly, y'all ain't. You forgot Chris? Meek just dropped the record. Oh, did he? Y'all ain't holding Philly down. Yeah. Y'all ain't holding Philly down at all. I was trying to wait for y'all, man. Meek and G-Arbo just dropped a song today as well. Ice, how often do you think Mona and Mark listen to music? Thank you, Ice. They come in here talking about Philly. They, you know. But they know. Like when you go home, how often do you think these two like. Mark. Mona, I think, I would think would know certain Philly music. Come on, bro. Certain. Certain type of artists. Come on. I think Mona would know. Mona ain't from Philly. Mona. I'm starting to understand that. Mona is from fucking D-E-L-A. Yeah. Mona's not really. I've never heard of her. I'm not going to beat the allegations. You want to hear the speak record? Mona seemed like she would listen to music if she had like a motorcycle with the speaker. You had it there nigga You get about 55 You might have one of them Shits on the back of your heart The cruiser The cruiser motorcycle shit Nah it's the I had the hoverboard With the speaker It's the slingshot now Nah it's the slingshot It's the slingshot He might be right Cause I really enjoyed that Remember the hoverboard Had the speaker Remember hoverboards No Yeah I'm from New Jersey Jesus Yes I remember Northern New Jersey Hoverboards was so cool That one Six month time Allen Iverson was out Hoverboards Eastlands Lugs Bro hoverboards Hoverboards were a couple years ago What are y'all talking about The one you stand up And you just ride on your feet What are y'all talking about I know what you're talking about Nigga I was in my 40s See Mark That street harassment The hoverboards That is too Yes That was That was a horrible time In hip hop You wanted to clothesline Them little motherfuckers Annoying ass nigga I wasn't fucking with Them board niggas I ain't getting on that Old bones You crazy Y'all never got on them No Hell no Hell no My kids was little I got on them a lot Did you fall A lot Nah I might have fell once But I ain't fall I ain't getting on that shit Let's hear Meek Let's do it Whoa Uh oh That sound like the Meek It came on That sound like the Meek I like to hear This ain't hard already It do It don't take you long To find out if a song is hard Yeah I got caught up Never leave your niggas That's the way that I was brought up Finger on the trigger Nigga play getting tore up And he can't take the pain He gotta pour up Got niggas asking What I did for niggas I'm trying to figure Where they brought us When it was only me and Kathy Nine that was still happy Too much slime around me It be times that I don't feel happy Baby mom like she don't want my son To know it's real dead She been getting real cranked I gotta free myself They blaming everything on me I had to see myself Looking in the mirror at my soul I'm trying to read myself Like niggas Infiltrate the field Fame I can't believe myself Damn Still count two million In an hour quick I could put some Killers in your hood And do a power shift If we got this shit About to murder What's the power lift You ain't even Bring your hard hat And put no ops in Cause nigga you was gossiping I was putting pain in Standing on the corner Summertime It was raining Weeping right then I ain't bitching I'm a flaming Catching all niggas In front of grandma Shameless Mama seeing niggas Around me die She know I'm changing But she know I ain't Four different Whether that was Murdered people Saying that I'm chosen I'm a Carry it and hold it Like I'm Saquon A.R.P. Your little will You need Stay firm Wagging on the bill We going chicken And we safe Kind of in New York But on the weekend I'ma stay firm How you niggas Get hard Knowing you got One house I'll get you When I'm in New Japan That's hard That's hard That's hard Let's go Meek Let's go Meek Wanna hear a Herbo? Yeah It was what it was Niggas saying my name So much It was what it was In the trenches I start making A comedy cause You can't erase My history We was starving In my family But I found a fee I can barely Count the cake Cause they count on me Don't know how to cash On one whip I just buy a fleet Couldn't walk on feet We was killing Niggas down the street If my boss Wasn't so elite They wouldn't even be around Know I'm one of the Greatest ever I'm going twelve rounds With me I was crying tears For Molly He was in the county Sleep Sacrifice my life Why the fuck These niggas Talking down on me I did hits with bro But he might Bite the fucking cheese Every time I pay My lawyer It's a hundred G's But I just Won't be free Fuck this game Begging shit I used to want To be chief I can't focus I been trying To turn another leaf Every time I go to sleep The devil want a beef All my children Worth millions Never coming cheap I told my bitch You better not leave It's only one of me Got my first beat And then I brought The sunny D Started lurking Where my feet He killed it What's up drugs Kicked in Herbo did what he had to do Let's go That record is nice That's not bad That's a good one right there I ain't gonna lie yo If you are a rapper I almost don't even Want to hear from you If some of your Close homies Didn't stab you In the back And it was a surprise To you For real I love that from me What I mean You ain't make it I love that from me It's a good point You ain't make it To a certain point yet It's a good point Yo and even if they Stop stabbing you In the back I don't think you should Stop rapping about it Yeah still talking Ever Yeah Carry that pain with you Yeah yeah yeah For a lot of niggas That shit don't That pain ain't never leaving True For the niggas you thought Was day one Well I mean also You should heal Nah You can heal It gets tricky You can heal But not forget though Yeah Yeah Still make songs about it Exactly And it sound good in the songs Hell yeah It's a good song That was a good Yeah especially if your man Got you good Oh yeah keep rapping about that Yeah They don't ever tell us What their man did Stupid yo Sometimes I need to hear What they did Like what they did Let's see who's side I'm on here In this one Anyway That's fire Shout out to Meek Mill That sounds great Shout out to Meek Mill Whole Philadelphia Yo man I thought we would hear All the new Philly music When we got two Philly hosts here But man I guess we still got High on Parks Parks and Freeze Yeah Listen now it's time For my favorite part Of the show Prize Picks Alright football Is heating up Colston Loveland Finally woke up Two weeks in a row And everybody You're welcome You have him right Colston Loveland I have him Yeah yeah Because I put him on my Prize picks for less That's why he went to fuck off So anybody that you want Well thank you then Yeah anybody that you need Just let me know I'll Shit I'll pay you to do that Every week I was like what the fuck Shit keep 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I ain't heard Nothing about Halloween Kickbacks What the fuck is devil's night Mischief night Oh mischief night Okay we call it Mischief night Detroit is devil's night I was just watching Big Meats talk about Devil's night in Detroit But mischief night I ain't heard Nothing About nothing Are we that washed Or are you guys Keeping your Halloween Planned secret Secret Well yeah Cause we Me and Parks talked Yeah yeah We got plans Yeah We're in the streets We're in the streets Like hoes Our ladies are dressed like They're supposed to be Whores I mean I mean And time Time go back that night Oh yeah Yeah we outside We outside Time goes back Yeah With that extra hour The extra hour So what's your outfit You'll see Next week Yeah Who was a ninja last year Yeah we were ninjas last year Yeah you 6'5 Mmhmm I wanna see what your shit is Yeah Hey That was crazy It's a 15 inch meat joke Just waiting y'all You tell them to make dick jokes And say that I wanna see how your shit hang You can't say that You 6'5 y'all I can't say that You 6'5 I didn't see You gotta be there That's crazy Most of the time y'all reach it But that was crazy No that was great That was good That was crazy Why don't you Roam with a bunch of children Yes That's true Yeah that's true We not growing up What's your plans I'm not What are my plans None at the moment I would like to go get Some more hot Mark's chewing ice I'm just kidding Yes Damn snitch We could all just You're the only one With a cup in your hand He wasn't gonna figure that out Yes he was Also it's only the Philadelphia people That chew things On the microphone Oh my god Is that true I think so yeah I've chewed things On the microphone once Counting today I know I chew shit But ice Ice is crazy You anemic I'm anemic No, I'm not feeling well. Hello. A little knee pain. No, I'm not sick. I just got an injury. You want ice to make it feel better? Yeah, it's when I'm in a lot of pain. I either squeeze something or I. Really? Yeah, it avoids me from calling out of work. That's progressive. That's progressive of him. Squeezing something. Because that's some bitch-ass nigga shit. God damn. Anyway, I forgot what we were talking about. Oh, what am I doing? Halloween. Yeah, what you doing for Halloween? I want to go to wherever I went and bought my Halloween costumes last year. I don't remember the name of the place. I've seen the name. This year will be an adventure because my driver is on vacation, so I have to drive myself around places. Oh, no. Oh, my God. What did you dress up as last year? A driver. I just bought all of those. What are you talking about? I bought all of those real-life wax masks. So I bought some green shit. I bought some other. I don't know who these people were. I just thought that the masks were cool, so I bought them. Abracadabra. Yeah, I need to run over there real quick. Somebody did send me a. Now that you say that, somebody did send me a. A Halloween party flyer, which is why I'm dissing y'all because when I got the flyer, I dissed me. I was like, you know what? If this had not been for this, had not been for somebody just being thoughtful and sending me this flyer, I would be such a loser. I wouldn't have no plan. Chief High? I wouldn't have no. Karen Civil, yeah. Yeah, she's a beautiful woman. Karen Civil is absolutely gorgeous. Gotcha. Yeah, and I think the flyer was some Tiana Taylor shit. It was another absolutely gorgeous and stunning. And anyway, I'll be with my fucking pregnant fiance. I hope she don't do no. Dress to the nines. I hope she don't do no doofy shit, like try to dress to bump. Are y'all going to be able to say you're going to take the value? Come on, though. She tried to. You got to. You got to. You got to. What is wrong with you? Y'all can do like a group costume so y'all can do something together. Yeah. Oh, my Lord. We're making a little pumpkin. No, that's fine. You got to do a group costume. You got to. Couple costumes. Yeah, yeah. Or with the babies, three. Yeah. That's true. True. All the children they got over there. With all our kids, it'll be 17. Seven, eight, nine of them niggas. They fertile over there. God. You know, she make doubles. She does the doubles. She'll do doubles. Yo, they fertile is sick. Shut up, Mona. What are you doing for Halloween, ish? Want to hang out? You know, I don't fuck with that. But sure. So I'll let it come. Oh, we got a sure. Yo, I'm not saying let's hang out because it's Halloween. I know. I mean, you just. I just want to do you regular. What's wrong with y'all? It just happens to be Halloween. You go, hey, talk. You say you want to hang out, nigga. You know what I'm saying, man. Come on, man. What better night? Insert banter. Come on. Come on. We'll update you on our Halloween plans next week. But shout out to y'all. Be safe out there. The people with kids trick-or-treating. You know, we have to talk every year. Yeah. We have to talk every year. Please just be careful. Check the Kit Kats. What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? Oh, Versus. Versus. Exciting. Versus. The Versus cast, which I know nobody saw it because that was a really good football game on. Yeah. That was a really, really, really good football game on. Wasn't it the football game? No, I saw some of it. I saw some of it. Like half. Oh, okay. Yo, I love old R&B. I was going to watch it. I was. And my fantasy team is like two and four, so I'm not sticking around for the game that I have two players playing in. I'm cool on that. But anyway, Case versus Carl Thomas happened the other night. I watched every minute of it with my pregnant fiance. Thought I was going to get some, you know, romantic vibes in the house. Don't miss a chance for that. And it was good. It was good. It was good. It was good. Who won? Carl. Of course Carl won. Carl Thomas won. Close? I don't think. Yes. I don't think Case had a chance. You don't think? All right. So you say yes. You say no. I say no. What scores do y'all have? Or if you're not counting rounds, what was close to you and what wasn't? Honestly, I stopped keeping score once I saw Case walk out. Damn. What does he walk out on? Go ahead. I was waiting for it. Now you're the pie guy. Because he was about to beat you. Because he made a look. I saw it. Yeah, he made his face. I saw it. I was just listening to my man. All right. So they introduced the two fellas. Nadeska did an amazing job. Shout out to Nadeska. Shout out to Apple. Shout out to Complex. Everybody. Swiss, Timberland. Everybody that has a hand in this thing. Carl Thomas, for those unfamiliar, is like real, real, real, like a real R&B, like church R&B, like came up in the church. So he's in. When I say real R&B, I mean it's going to be outfit changes. Before he played, I wish he wouldn't put on the t-shirts. The turtleneck that he had on from the album cover. Every song before it started, he was a showman. Got it. Like Joe Thomas was doing up there. Yeah. Carl Thomas was doing his rendition of that. He had a speech before every song. He sung gospel shit up there. Like at that point, like he put a smoker's jacket on at some point. He kept everybody involved. Everybody behind him looked like they were having the time of their life when that emotional shit came on. How did he sound? Case came out. He sounded amazing. Okay. Carl Thomas, and that's the other problem. He sounded absolutely amazing live, like he's just been in somebody's backyard singing live for the last 25 years, performing in front of a crowd, just owning his voice. Okay. He sounds exactly the same, if not better. That's no small feat. But they introduced Carl Thomas first, which is a mistake. So he come out dressed to the nines. Then they introduced Case. Case. Who came out. Do you remember what Case looked like when he came out? You sipping some tea or some shit. Empty ass cup. Right. He was dressed. Okay. You mean like he wasn't naked. What do you think? How was he dressed? Come on, man. Like a bae-bae's kid. What does that mean? He was dressed like one of bae-bae's kids. A belt buckle and a koofy. He was wearing some jeans that didn't look like no relationship. Nice jeans. Yeah, it looked like atheist jeans. He was wearing some black Air Force Ones with orange laces. Oh, he was on time. It was Halloween. He had a black t-shirt on with an orange t-shirt underneath so you could see it. Okay, he was color coordinated. He had on some weird, it was weird. It looked weird. It looked like he was walking by the venue and they just pulled him in there and he happened to be available. Oh, shit. Nah, you know what it looked like? Like a 90, like, when was we wearing baggy shit? Early 90s. Late 90s. I'm waiting to hear the corollary. He didn't look like nothing we ever wore. He didn't look like nothing he ever wore. No, it just looked like. He looked an absolute mess up there. It looked like the shit you buy from Marshall's. And from that point on, it let me know the psyche of both these two dudes. Joe, let me ask you a question though. Did he look like he just made a bad style choice or did he look like he was fucked up in life? Mark, I'm only at the introduction. So, at this point, all we can say is, wow, why would Case wear that? Okay. There was nothing else to say. We hadn't heard him sing. Carl Thomas starts. He does. I can't. I was wrong. And I said, all right, Case is going to answer with girlfriend. He did. Your girlfriend wants to get with me. But that song must be a lot bigger in New Jersey than it is in L.A. Because they wasn't moving. The way that I was moving to that record. And girlfriend is one of Case's records. But again, really low tone vocally. So, he was able to hide. He was real. Girlfriend wants to get with me. He didn't sound bad. So, you do girlfriend. But, I mean, Carl just did a classic. So, one nothing Carl. Carl comes back out. Gives a long speech. Does some gospel shit. And then goes into, damn, whatever he went into, I forgot. But I'm like, okay, this is Case's chance. To steal a point. As God would have it, Case come out there and do some bullshit Case record that we never heard before. Or that we heard and it's just like, all right. So, Carl two nothing just off performance and vocally and showmanship and the stage. And then as it went on, that's just all that happened. Carl took over with just showmanship and emceeing and church and telling you his inspiration for this record. And telling you where this sample came. And just shouting out music legends. It was an absolute master class from Carl Thomas. Carl Thomas played a lot of records too that, what the fuck is this? Like, there was a lot of rounds where it was just, what the fuck is this? I got the round by round. Let's hear it. Round one. Can't imagine Carl Thomas featuring Faith Evans versus Case, Not Your Friend. Round two. Carl Thomas, Come To Me versus Case featuring Ghostface Killer. Should have known better. He should have known better. Round three, Carl Thomas, My Valentine versus Case, Think of You. That's probably what's the best round. But Carl smoked My Valentine so much and Case didn't smoke Think of You the way it should have. So, on paper, that should have been closer. I didn't watch it. Case didn't sound bad. You know what happened? It wasn't like a high of highs. Like, yo, he just was. It was there. It was just blah. It wasn't emphatic. And again, I didn't even think about this until you said it. Because I know those songs. Those songs was popping when we was coming up. Over there, the crowd wasn't into those songs like that. It wasn't. It was like, eh. That crowd didn't come alive for Case until Happily Ever After, Touch Me, Tease Me, and Missing You. And what's come alive? Because remember, I told y'all how they do with that crowd there. They actually turned down the crowd. No, that crowd came alive. I watched Joe and Donnell. That crowd was lively. Even though Donnell wasn't performing at its best, they still wanted, when those songs came on, they was like, oh shit. And he just didn't perform. Case just was blah. And he didn't sound that bad. He sounded kind of like Case. And again, my problem with this, Case is 90s Def Jam. I came to Def Jam right after that. But I know all those records. None of you professed the soundtrack. I know all the Case shit. Image is so important in music. And maybe because I was a teenager and how they marketed Case, he just seemed like the hood nigga that had a voice. But he was swaggy, though. When we was young, he had a little swag with him. Like, he wasn't the best dressed dude, but he was like an R&B thug. Like that. Which now we can attribute to a good stylist or a good team or whatever. It wasn't Case going in his closet and saying, hey, what might appear to look nice on me today? Case. He didn't look like shit. But wait, so the shit keeps going on. So the shit keeps going on. And now it becomes apparent that Case is moving funny, too. Like, he's looking a little fidgety up there. He's looking very fidgety. There were moments where his tongue pause was doing, like, weird shit. His mouth was doing something. A look that I've seen before. I respect Case. Was he doing a Dennis Edwards? Yeah, at parts. At parts. At parts. At parts. Great way to put that. Dennis Edwards. Don't look any further. Yeah, that's what he was doing. And Case is married to a woman. For anybody out there that needed that information, I Googled it during the battle. I Googled it during the versus. Because at some point up there, you was like. Now, wait a second. No. Now, how in the hell did he sneak this by us? Wait a minute. So he was doing it like. All the slaps, it was like a sassy version of it. It was like. It was like his hands was moving funny. But he is married to a woman. Salute. Salute. It was one point where I said, hey, this nigga's gay. Oh, my God. And then she said, well, he's definitely on drugs. And then I said, this nigga's on drugs and gay. This nigga. This gay nigga's on drugs. Yo. This gay nigga is apparently. Yo, and I'm joking around right now, of course, right? I don't know nobody's sexual preference. But the mistake that Case made. Now, when you're trying to stretch your songs and you don't have enough songs. And this is bad. This is bad. This is bad. He brought out a Nokia from Drew Hill. OK. Right. Who had on like a jean jacket that looked like it had it had been put through a meat grinder. He had on like a ground beef version of a jean outfit. Like it was all sliced up like Freddy Krueger. Not like this outfit. It looked it was. So anyway, he was dressed. So he was like, so Case made a mistake and was like, yo, let me tell you all a story. Some of y'all don't know. But beauty from Drew Hill used to be my record. My man Nokia wrote me this joint. And then the audience said, wait, then the audience was like, oh, really? Really? And he said, yeah, but they took it. They did it for themselves. But they were kind enough to come back and put me on the remix. And that's what I'm a play for y'all right here. Boy, why the fuck would Case do such a thing? It's almost like Case had never heard of Cisco. It's almost like Case had no idea how Cisco sounded. And he put beauty on. That Cisco is singing on. You can't do that. And he tried to sing it. Boy, it was bad. As if it couldn't get worse. That was the worst. Actually, I'm lying. Because then he did some more songs. He did Best Man, brought R.L. out, who looked great. R.L. friend. And then somewhere toward the end, he brought Nokia out again and said, yo, some of y'all don't know, but this song that was on Cisco's album, me and Nokia wrote this together. This little slap called How Can I Love You Tonight. Get the fuck out of your dog. And we was in bed saying, no way he's about to try to sing How Can I Love You Tonight by Cisco. And sure enough, he did. I'm going back to watch this. And boy, it was atrocious. Are you crazy? It sounded like somebody trying to do a Cisco song. And then when I watched him for the rest of the night, you know, it was bad. It was bad. It was bad. I'm sorry, Case. It ain't funny. He just came home. He looked like they ran out of Aquaphor. You remember that nigga said, go to Berlin. Look at his mouth. Yo. Look how he got dressed at Berlin. Oh. Yeah, he up there high as shit. Oh, man. Bad one. He look like he got dressed in the dark. Berlin time. He got a graphic T on in the koofy. It's not a good choice. Yeah, I peeped it. I seen it. Yeah, no, it was really bad. It was really, really bad. It was bad. Sorry, I missed you. Shout out to Case. Some Versus is. I don't know about your finances, but. Yo, again, shout out to everybody who played a part in this. But Some Versus is. Just didn't eat. You could just keep it, man. Well, speaking of. So, right. But after that, I did see 112 Twitter page. I don't know who's running it, but the official 112 Twitter page tweeted out, hey, we ready for another Versus. Because, you know, they did one of the early, early, early Instagram live holding the phone joints. And it was only three of them, right? I don't remember. I don't remember. It wasn't the whole crew. Okay. Then I saw Drew Hill page retweet that with the eyes. And I almost. I almost retweeted that and said, please don't do that to 112, Drew Hill. Like, I like them. I don't want to see that happen to them. You don't want to see a dress body? No. Please don't do what to 112? Murder them. I don't think it would be a murder. It would be a murder, a slaughter, a bloodbath. I think that they would win, but I don't think it would be a bloodbath. It would be bad. I love 112. Against Drew Hill, don't do that. 112 got a lot of slaps. And slaps usually win the day. They do. Drew Hill will win, but it's not going to be what you're saying. No, that's not right. It'll be bad. Performance, though, I don't know. I don't know how both of these are going to be bad. I've heard Drew Hill. I went to see Drew Hill two summers ago, and they sounded amazing. It was the Drew Hill, Joe the CSWV show. And the last few times I've heard 112, they did not. Oh, well, now we are taking into account performance and all of that. That's the only thing I'm saying. When you get the slaps, I think it's more competitive than you letting it. If we're just talking record for record, Drew Hill is not murdering 112. That's what I was saying. I wasn't talking about performance, though. Because 112 got some features. They got a lot of features. They got all the features. It's that bad boy time. He ain't doing bad. I take Drew Hill. I'm with you. I take Drew Hill over 112. Sawed off shotgun, hand on the pump. It's a bloodbath, bro. That first 112 album is going to ring off. And the second one, too. The first one's going to ring off. But when Drew Hill could beat those songs. Yes. Yes. When Drew Hill starts playing they shit, 112 can't beat those songs. And then Cisco's a member of Drew Hill. Are we talking about a different 112? No. We're not talking about the same. I love that one. Oh, now you want to use Cisco's solo record. You're going to do that in a versus, my nigga. You're going to do that. Oh, then I back down. Then I stand down. If you ask Cisco's solo, that's different. I stand down. I think it's cheating, but. That is fucking cheating. It's stupid. Bro, what? I think Drew Hill could win without it. Me, too. I do, too. But they don't wash them without it. Yeah. They win. They wash them with their thongs on and shit. Tell me in my bed, never made a promise, how deep is your love? These are the times. Five steps. We're not making love no more. The remake of You Are Everything, Stylistics Joint, Beauty, The Love Stays On My Mind. I mean, that enough will make it a long day for someone. That's a long day. That's not enough to make it a long day for 112. Yes, it is, Joe. That is not enough. It's a tough day. It's a tough day, bro. It's competitive, though. But y'all are going to get competitive. It's competitive. It's not. It ain't a long day for 112. Bro, that was some hard. That was 12 songs. No, what I'm saying is that. I'm not doing this, Joe. No, no, no. What I'm saying is the 112 songs that are going to ring out, they got slacked. They got them. I'm not. They don't compare to the Drew Hill slaps. So what I'm saying is that the Drew. I couldn't disagree more with this. I mean, when they come out with Only You, Only You is going to be a tough one. Peaches and Cream is going to. Peaches and Cream is tough. Come on. Peaches and Cream could be beat by a lot of them. Cupid is tough. Only You could be beat. Cupid and Only You. Are you bugging out? They also want to come out and do that I'll Be Missing You shit. And they're going to disguise the limit. I mean, they got the feature. I'm looking at their features. You named four songs. I mean, I'm just saying. They got a lot of. It's over now. There's a lot of songs. It's over now. Love Me Anywhere. Come See Me. I mean, they got a lot of shit. Dance With Me. There's a lot of ones. Dance With Me. I don't see a mopping Unless Cisco is using his records too And they like jump in 112 That first album Drew wins though That first 112 album is amazing Honestly I got the first two Amazing Yeah but album cuts don't always do it on these verses That's my point So now Cisco and them are going to bring out hits and smashes That are not necessarily album cuts And outperform you And they're going I got it like 12 11, 9, 12, 8 You out your 11 mind I would love to see this You know what I'd rather see Drew Hill, Jodeci I bet you would So would the world Is there a world where Jodeci does the verses That would make me turn off the game And watch Yeah that would I'm with you I mean if the money right I'm sure everybody would do something I don't think it would take that much money to get Jodeci out there I don't think it's a money issue I don't want to see that funeral I don't want to see that funeral For whom? Funeral for who? For Drew Hill Oh I think it's closer than Drew Hill 112 Yeah I do It's definitely closer than Drew Hill 112 That's why I want Jodeci You said Drew Hill 112 It's 11, 9 12, 8 12, 8 is for him 12, 8, 11, 9 yeah I think Jodeci I think Jodeci, Drew Hill is a pick me Shit Is a pick him I agree Yeah I take Jodeci though Let's do this for a little bit Even though it's extending the podcast Because this was not on our list Let's do this just for two minutes What record do y'all have for Drew Hill To go against anywhere? See again Alright I was sitting here thinking about anywhere The whole time Now to progress the pod Let's say none Keep going No I'll pick a record for that It's upbeat Joy and I'll go In My Bed Remix Yeah In My Bed Remix is the one And that point goes to who? Drew Hill I think that goes to Drew Hill In My Bed Remix yeah Got it Okay Okay We can move on Yeah you That's some New York shit I think In My Bed Remix Is a bigger song than anywhere Okay And Only You Ain't nothing beating Only You Alright They ain't got a record to beat Only You I'll give them a point Cupid I said two I said two songs Cupid Peaches and Cream Can be beat It's a big song though It's a huge record Just name the record Name it Now you're gonna make me go look Yeah you're gonna The hard part is Is a tempo thing A lot of the big Drew Hill ones Are gonna be Is it gonna be slow It's gonna be It's gonna be Never Make a Promise It's gonna be Tell Me It's gonna be Five Steps It's gonna be like Where'd I Make It Love No More And I don't think 112 Got nothing for them I don't think they win those rounds I get you though 112 is gonna win When you put Cupid on You could potentially put on Beauty And that's a strong fear one For Drew Hill Now what? And what wins? It depends on the crowd Alright so y'all get It's just a pick and battle No No because I think This is a pick and battle That's why I said 11 That's why I said 11 now I think Drew Hill has more of them I think Drew Hill has more of them Which is why I'm not arguing You saying they would win But a murder But it's not a split bet That is extremely disrespectful To 112 Okay I do Out of 20 records I'll give Drew Hill winning 13 rounds 13, 14 Wow 13, 14 You got Drew Hill beating 112 for 13 or 14 records? I said 13 13 You said 12, 8 That's right there Or 11, 9 Right That's Once you get to 13 To me that's like Y'all we not in the same class You know what I mean? But I would love to see this happen I don't know what the fuck Y'all talking about I stand on it Since we talking music Can I bring up a story That's music adjacent? Yes Sure Stevie Wonder What the hell happened With Stevie now? Shout out to Stevie Wonder Greatest artist of all time Last one Last one Okay 112 you already know You already know You already know Come on That's it That's why I'm asking I just want to hear What song you play Because they have more records Than y'all are making They have to be No, no Tell me Okay, I'm going to tell me Okay 112 featuring Mase That's what That's what These bitches want From a nigga It's a hard fight But that's Cisco Oh, you're going Cisco No, that's Cisco Come on with that shit I mean, he's in Drew Hill What are y'all See, I don't I don't understand The versus rules When it comes to But if you say that Then I'm pulling out A throne song I mean, like If I'm picking out A Cisco feature And claiming it Check it out Check it out Do you think Cisco's Going to do a solo versus At any time And if you think And if you think Jodeci came out You think the KC, JoJo songs Don't come on Yes That's a little different They the two niggas That sing in the group Two of them, not one of them They the two singers They both still in it They the two singers So who's the lead In Drew Hill, may I ask But he ain't the only singer I mean I didn't say he was No, I'm saying What the difference is With KC and JoJo They are the singers In the group Yeah, but come on It's half the group It's just the same group Damn near Without the two cute ones But it's two singers Jodeci is not fair Because we're going to Pull up every record Devontae ever produced And it's going to be A fucking beat Now if you do that It's not fair at all Leave him alone in that But okay, come on Moving on Stevie Wonder Stevie Wonder Stevie Wonder Stevie Wonder Is a lick Huh? Wait, what happened? Stevie Wonder Is a fucking lick There's only two ways To look at this Listen, Stevie Wonder Stevie Wonder Was dating some old work It's rumored that He even Proposed Pardon me That he even proposed Way back in the 80s Had a verbal agreement That he was going to Let her Live in one of his homes Nice move This is since 1988 No rent No nothing And she's been there Ever since Stevie's people Reached out recently I want to say Just recently Don't try to get me To say what year Reached out recently To get some Insurance home inspection Done Where She Reached out She didn't answer the phone She didn't let anybody in Which as a result Was raised in the coverage Insurance coverage Yada yada yada yada So that ticked Stevie off So Stevie said Listen She has to get out of My house She's violated our Whatever arrangement we have Plus it's been four decades Long overdue It's over now She has to go She's not moving There's a verbal agreement Don't ever disrespect Stevie Wonder And call him a lick He is a lick Even if he was a lick He's a lick Well actually Let me tell you Let me take that back Let me take that back Let me take that back This is my opinion on this This is one of two things At play This is either A Stevie Wonder is a lick Or Or This is Stevie Wonder's Current wife Getting the affairs in order Saying Hey What's going on over there Old work Out 40 years I know that I know that appraisal up Yeah They were trying to get an appraise That's what they were trying to do It wasn't on insurance It was an appraisal Is Stevie refusing to leave? Yes Of course She's saying that they made an agreement That she could live there rent free Forever But this ain't bitch You also got to open the door And you didn't do that So you broke the agreement You're not letting the people in To do the assessments they gotta do You gotta get the fuck on This is Stevie In 88 Putting his favorite vagina Somewhere And holding it down Through all his relationships Stevie had been married Three or four times So most recently I wanna say It was 2017 2018 So this is the current New wife Oh yeah She's not playing None of that shit Yeah That I'm thinking Just got wind Of what was going on Cause Stevie held it down For the favorite vagina All these years Yo nah I don't pay her no mind She's over here Kept it a secret She ain't bothering nobody Just let her get the little house Now Not so much They putting pressure on Stevie That's why I don't think Stevie a lick I don't think he a lick I think he had a good plan I think he a stand up dude I think a jig is up Or Option three In Joe Budden's mind He is Really Blind And he went over there To try to figure Some shit out And she got real quiet Yo She got She got real This nigga's an asshole She was quiet in there Stevie was looking around With his cane Hey With the cane Thought I heard something I know I know you in here I know I know you're in here Come on Yo That's option three He tried to go over there And hand out some straightening But she was really Really quiet And He thought she was gone She threw this shit Over there in the corner Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Yeah, that's what I got for Stevie. I don't want to think he's a mark. Even though if a really rich dude gets married four more times, I think it's tough to avoid the mark stigma. I don't know, man. Why? You just might not give a fuck. I'm not saying there are not logical reasons to get married four and five times. Just like I think if a really rich or really beautiful woman gets married four or five times, it's going to be really tough for her to escape that word. Yeah, yeah. It's just out there. That's a little different. There's a couple different words. What's the difference? Harlan, Jezebel. Oh, I thought you meant Golding. Yeah, it could have been that word. Or that one. Or the two words. Bad box. Bad box. Yeah. That gets thrown around. I wouldn't assume that. That gets thrown around often in these scenarios. No, no. What I'm saying. What the hell is bad box? Them Holly Berry pictures her kid took? Yo. Oh, my God, Joe. Y'all seen them? Nope. It ain't monsters, boy. I'll tell you that. Didn't see those. Didn't miss them. I was looking at them pics like, ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh. You in the house. In the hallway. Girl. Yeah. Real niggas is out, yo. Sorry, Holly. You in the house bullshitting around. I'm the only one seeing them. No. That's all. It wasn't jinxed. I thought it was a joke. Nope. It wasn't. It wasn't jinxed. Holly was up there looking de-rest, boy. God. It wasn't strictly business. So anyway, yeah. Stevie McMahon. Married a few times. Super rich. I think sometimes you get to a point where you just don't care. I think Steve might have had a house. He loved that girl, liked that girl, whatever. That was his work. That was his joy. He let her stay in there. And after a while, he's like, look, I got this house. I want to keep the house. I don't want to have to watch it. She can stay there. I don't care. Where's the house? We know where the house is. It's in LA, right? Oh, that house is worth a couple dollars. So which means over the last 40 years of appreciation, I might have spent a half a mil in 88. That shit worth $10 million. Wow. You missed one, Cesar. Hey, you let one get by you. Pretty valuable property. We'll get to you later. Don't you worry. And sometimes you make promises to people, and then you just got to hold on to them until your new wife finds out. He did it for 38 years. There's no way you say, you can stay in this house for 40 years, and that really means forever. I'd be cool with axes, but 40 years? I don't think the plan was 40 years. I just think the plan was, look, I proposed to you. Then I said, I want to marry you. Look, I got you. I got you. But you can just stay here. And then you got money and houses and don't give a fuck, and probably don't think about it. Or? Until your wife finds out. Or? Or the accountant died, and now your wife's looking into your affairs, and she's like, oh, yo, we got a house over here on 123 and East Strip. Wait, who live there? Who? Is this empty? Well, no, not exactly. Or? Aisha over there. Aisha. Or, come on. I'm a slow walker. I'll do it. It's all right. What's here? Y'all keep being reasonable. Y'all keep delivering the topic with the utmost respect. You think you might still visit the house, is what you're saying? I think I know what you're trying to say, but I won't say it. Hey, you picking up what I'm putting there, come on. I don't see that. We didn't say nothing yet. Yo, the wrist ain't thin like it used to be? Nah. That's why I don't think so. She still, he could, she could still be paying rent with that coochie. He come over there. Exactly. But it's been 40 years. That coochie might not hit the same no more. You can't pay your coochie for 40 years. Yes, it's the same. And inflation up. That coochie don't cooch no more. Listen to me. Coochie ain't worth that much no more. Brothers, everybody scream right now, like at the same time, and say, listen, listen to me. Yeah. That was my way of saying, let's stop screaming. The man can't see. Uh-huh. He can feel. He can feel. He know how to get right over there. He know exactly what that dick suck like. He not letting that bitch live free. She suck that dick twice a month, three times a month. No big deal. That's how she pay rent. That's how she pays fucking rent. Okay. Now, it's time to go. I'm in agreement with that. I think you should still have to go. You know why though? Why what? Because you add 40 to whatever she used to be, right? And there's some young Thundercats. There's some young Thundercats out here now. See? He can't do nothing with young Thundercats. What a blind old nigga. Have you ever seen Stevie Wonder's women? Have you ever been around Stevie Wonder's girlfriends? No, Mark. He and his nigga go, he knows Stevie Wonder. You know, I did it. I did it. Sit down. I'm all about it. You ever actually broke arm to arm with Stevie Wonder's side bitch? Because I went to Zimbabwe with her. On a small private jet. You know what? Zimbabwe. I was just trying to jump into the conversation with some facts and stories. Well, what are the facts, Mark Lamar? They be young and fine. Oh, okay. Oh. That's the point. Oh, okay. And if he proposed her when she was, let's say, 25, 40 years ago. Throw 40 on that. She's 65. Mark is helping my theory. Yeah. That ain't his type. That ain't snapping. But no more. I don't think he's been doing that for 20 years. Like, man, you got a 40-year run out of you. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not. Hold on. Stay with me. That house may have served other functions other than the occupant whose name is on the lease is what I'm saying. Ah. Wasn't her. A little crash pad. Yes. When things get stressful, you need a little time away. Sometimes you need a retreat. All right. Wait a second now. If I submit to Mark's theory. It's not a bad theory. It still leads me back to my theory. Stash house. Mm-hmm. Somebody's in there. Smash pad. Smash pad. Like the White House. The Cowboys' White House. Smash pad. Somebody's in there. But that's not who the smash pad is about. Copy. Yes. If I go to that house. So. What else is smashed in my smash pad? Ah. Oh. And I take him, the smash pad tenant. Yeah. And somebody is occupying the space. I'm sure it's a pretty big house. I'm getting my dick sucked in there. She's sucking my dick. Period. On the way out. Sorry. Right by the door. Right by wherever you're heading to go to. I'm getting extra head. Suck it soft. Soggy. I ain't even about to come. Yo, just suck this off and soggy. Just do it before I leave. I'm parked right there. It ain't going to take long. Come on. Do it. Bust it down. Dentures and all. That's all I know. Dentures and all. Come on now. So I know you're putting in effort, bitch. Stevie is getting that old dick sucked. Plumber came over here and put that new faucet in, right? Oh, all right. I'm with you. Yeah. And he plumber. That boy. He done put in a bunch. He laying some pipe. Are we all in agreement, though, that she should go? Yes. If he says she should go, yeah. Maybe. I'm surprised you on that side. Progressive man. If he says she should go. 40 years is a long time. I helped her. Progressive team. I think it depends on what we agree on. It depends on what we agree on. Agreement is an agreement. It depends on why I let you stay there in the first place is what I'm saying. It never meant for the rest of your life. Yeah, I don't think so. If we got a secret. Mark. If we got a secret kid together, hypothetically. If you know something, you got something on me, that. I mean, there's a list of reasons why I might owe you this crib. I don't want to assume that this is just him being nice for nice sake. And whatever that agreement is, sometimes statutes of limitations pass. Kids grow up, scandals go away. And now that you now that you don't need me no more, you bounce me. If that's the case, that's how it should be done. You ain't shit. That's how it's supposed to go. No, but you weren't going to mean something. That's all I'm saying. I don't think you should get a free ride. Nobody crib. If you want to out, she should go. If you if he was just doing her solid. But I'm saying sometimes if you did be deeper levels to this story, I would want to know why you didn't just if I have an agreement with you, this is your crib. You stay here, whatever the crib go in her name or something. Why? If you want, if you're giving her the crib, I ain't give her nothing. I let her live. You're giving your life. So you let her live there. Yeah. And the agreement was you can stay here forever. Mm hmm. You could stay here forever as long as I'm getting this sloppy toppy. Well, let's say that part, if you if you agreed and verbal verbal agreements work out there. Yo, did Dre get out that house yet? She stays. We got a few houses we got to check on. That is a good one. Car, Carmen. Efferson is her name. Okay, Carmen. Now, Carmen's, you know, you know, y'all shot the comments. Let me see. I'm trying to find I can't find it, but her name is Carmen Efferson. She's been here since 1998. Oh, yeah. You know, she's 98, 98, 98, 98, 88, 88, where I read. Give me two. Oh, this one said 98, but she got to go just because her name is Carmen. Efferson. It sound like some shit from the 30s. That's why she was able to stay. Yeah. What y'all think 1930s head was like? Rough. Yeah, they ain't get busy. It was rough. Neat. I think I fall on the other side of that. I think I fall on the other side of this. In the 1930s, y'all think, duh. It's like dunks in the NBA. They grew. The more people did it, the better they got. If there's only three people give a head in the hood, how good could it be? Remember, they used to give them 50 bucks. These are the dunk contests for basic-ass dunks? Yeah. Because didn't know what I was dunking? They were so surprised to see a dunk. Yeah. Oh, shit. It's a dick suck. If it's three people in the hood giving head, it's totally fine if I know where a few of those addresses are. Yo, and specialists going to always be specialists. I'm just saying. My house is way better back in the day than they make them now. Nah, that used to be like, that's like when you roll up to the dangerous block and you got to sleep on it, but they don't even know she live on the second floor right there. It's empty in front of her house. You'd be like, ooh, I caught one. I caught a good one. I think the people that was with it, they was with it. They was with it. I'm just saying they might not have been that good. Their level of with it was basic compared to what's happening out here in these streets today. I think it was probably super salacious and most people didn't do it. Like, the people that did do it were considered, like, nasty. That might make it better. Like, I'm curious if they even sold it in the brothels. Yes, they did. I'm curious if that was an option. Yes, they did. Nigga, Vanessa Del Rio was running around when I was a kid. And that shit was fire. I never got it, but it looked fire. I didn't see Vanessa Del Rio until Lil' Kim put in a song and it didn't look like it. Oh, no, I didn't. Nah. By the time. Yeah, you bugger. I'm just telling you what I learned. Really? But y'all are way more in the, he has more of an insatiable appetite for sex. Than you? Yes. Watch your mouth. Y'all think it's insatiable? Insatiable. He said that. It's just so smooth and calm, like. Why is he mad? You have an insatiable appetite. You're wrong, but it's all right. Why is it a diss? No, because the shit that you do, I don't do. So when you start talking about the shit that you be into, I'm not into. Like what? Why do y'all know what each other is into? What'd you agree with that? It's the same room. I would agree. However, for me, as you know, a lot of it stops at penetration. So when I say insatiable appetite. Insatiable appetite for sex. Yeah, but. I'm not really talking about just deviant acts. I got you beat by far. I'm a deviant. Yeah, see, I'm not one. But you. You just straight fucking. No, I just. I used to like. No, I used to like. Fucking. I would get. I used to like new people. You're not really helping me, kid. That's what we saying. We always say, baby, go to peanut gallery. Yo, again. You talking about deviant acts. That's his appetite for sex. He conceded the deviant acts. You're talking about, yo, I might fuck with a chick, and then you get bored, and you move on to the new person. So you just got to keep fucking. It's the acts that they be doing that's not interesting. Like a new person. Appetite for sex. I love what he explained, too. It'll always help me. Nah, because y'all niggas is groupies, like I said. Oh, shit. If niggas is doing wild sexual shit, who got a bigger appetite? Well, we was talking for sex. He said he was going for sex. But when you were younger, you used to want to keep, you was fucking mad chicks, and a nigga that said, like, I want to watch this chick play with us all. I see what you're saying. You're just saying when you were younger, you used to want to have a lot of sex with different people. No. He's putting numbers up. The thrill was in chasing the girl or the person to see if I could get the person. And once you got it, you moved on. So you never satisfied with one person. Chase was more the thrill. Couldn't be satiated. Yo, this clip is the funniest shit. Look at his shirt. Get his shit off. Get his shit off. Smack is a fool. Anyway, where we at? Where we at? Where we at? Where we at? Man. Where we at? We done with Stevie Wonder. Stevie, you are a piece of work, buddy. A piece of work. Yeah, nigga. He went over there. Never mind. If you made all them slaps, you might have a little. Yeah, you might have a little. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, nigga. That was her. That's right there. Funny shit. You know it's a piano over there, too. Facts. And a harp. Yeah, all that shit is over there. Oh, if it's a harp, Monique over there, he fucking. Or that little shit that he do on the lap, like the little. And this is a much better plan than Smokey Robinson's cleaning company he hired. Way better plan. I'll tell you that one. Smokey was cheap with it. See that towel, right? Fucking Smokey. That's true. Let's move on. Yes. There we go. So, y'all know TJ Holmes? Indeed. Yes. Used to be on Good Morning America, BET. CNN, all the stuff. Anyway. Fell in love. Threw it all away. Fell in love. Why not? It got a little complicated. He was married. He was. And he fell in love with another woman who also was married. Okay. They used to double date. Uh-huh. Oh, man. Then. They used to double dip. Apparently, because he ended up with her. It was heartbreaking, devastating to their spouses, but they moved on. Mm-hmm. Then, two days ago, we got the word that the spouses also moved on with each other. They got married to each other after they both got left by TJ and old girl. The old switcheroo. Swaping mouth. They did a switcheroo. The old switcheroo. Swaping mouth. Told you niggas be into some other shit. That's some other shit. I'm not into that. Truth is really wilder than fiction because what are the odds of that? What's the amount of time in between? They've been broken up. It ain't been long. Three years? Maybe a couple years. Three years, maybe. Three years? Because we covered it up here in this location, so it'd only been about three years. Yeah, it's not long. Yeah. So, the first egregious act is double dating as a couple and then cheating. That's kind of ill. I could see how it'd happen, though. Yeah, it's just ill. I'm sure it happens often. And you know what? They work together. So, in working together, you start spending a lot of QT with the other person. Their personality starts to become overwhelming. All of that shit. Make it make sense for us. Like, I could see it. But then don't double date. Shit happens. You fall in love. You can't control the heart. But you can control where you double date. True, true, true. But the double date could've came first. I was about to say, the double date could've been prior, too. That's peace. That'd make it more diabolical. You wasn't scheming at that time, though. It's always scheming. Even when you wasn't scheming, it's going to look like scheming when they look at your scheme in hindsight. Look like it, for sure. I'm just, it might not have been that. Yo, girls don't ever be right. When we tell them, yo, don't worry about this girl, we be right when we say it. At that time, we be right. We be all the way right. At least 95%. Yo, don't worry about it. We really telling you, I'm not going to fuck this bitch unless you act stupid. And then as God would have it, I mean, it's a room full of men. Ask them what I mean, Mona. That's for real. Act stupid. All the women that you love. You don't have to worry about this girl means I have me on my own accord There will be, you have no worry about me fucking this girl unless you do something stupid. What is the stupid part? No, no. It means, I'm not thinking about fucking this girl or nothing like that right now. And if you keep talking about it like it's a good idea every time I come in the house, she going to get fucked. Okay, okay. Let me ask you a question. Well, rule number one is you never bring up the other bitches anyway. You're not supposed to do that. Is there a time where a man said, yo, you need to worry about this girl? If you're asking me, yeah. I think that's said through behavior a lot. No, but when the shorty brings up the girl and you said, yo, just listen to her and say, yo, you don't got to worry about this girl. Is there ever a time where you're going to be like, yeah, you need to worry about her? I mean, I'd normally be like, no, she's tough. But? No, that's letting you know. She ain't. That's a lot. To say that, worry. I see where you could come down. Worry. I see how you could come to this. I'd worry if I were you. Oh, my God. You're going to tell your girl, yeah, I'd worry if I was you because that thing be thinking. Like, yo, nobody says that, nigga. Yo, I know Mark is still looking up the TJ Homes facts. I was making sure. I just want to say, I think this is some of the most loser shit you could ever do in life. I'm putting a name on it. This is loser shit. For whom? If my partner cheats with your partner, I'm not getting stuck with you. No way on God's green earth. What if they fire, though? What a loser. Yeah, but they were fired. No, listen. They're on fire. If you pop my chick. Yes, at fire. Oh, okay. If you pop my chick, payback. Payback is different than. This ain't payback. It might have started off as payback. I think that is what happened. And then. Because that's what it most often is when I've seen it. People, because sometimes the other person finds out and they have to aware of the other person. Just that communication is like, well, what's up then? That's literally what happened. Yes. They started consoling each other. Yeah, they consoled each other. Remember, TJ and Amy Roblox, they were co-hosts together. They didn't just, like, they worked together. They were working in proximity. One of us would start dating another one of us. You're supposed to fuck his wife. Yes. Yes. That's it. His ex-wife, his ex-girlfriend. Getting in a relationship. Side-pitching. Side-pitching. Side-pitching. That's the mama. Age-appropriate. Yeah, but once you say getting in a relationship and marrying, nah. I don't think he intended for that out the gate, though. I don't care what he intended. I don't care about his intention. Man, niggas fall, yo. If you fall in love, you fall in love. You should be happy. Excuse me. Nah. Excuse me, guys. I just don't buy it. Did everybody in here miss our co-host say that if you fuck his bitch, you'll fuck your mom and your ex and your current? And everybody else. No. And then, he said, it's war, nigga. And then we said, what? It's war, nigga. And you know what you need to do? And his foot started to shake, so he meant it. You know what you need to do that? And then he said, what? Sack for sacks. This nigga's dick is a weapon of mass destruction. I know, yo. He's got me eating my pocket. I had an ex. Her parents did that. Revenge, nigga. Huh? I have saw revenge in similar ways. You might not even like the chick. To Isha's defense. That's great. That's corny, yo. You never had revenge sex? I've never done that. No, no. Revenge, cool, but the extent of the revenge. Dog, I did that for somebody that played with you. Damn. Nigga, she was fine. Shut up. That girl. That girl. They're fine that we talking about. That girl was fine. But they're fine, the people that we talking about. You would have did that anyway. If they ain't fine. But that's what put her on my radar. She was right up your alley. But that's what put her on my radar, though. Oh, well, thank you, man. It was like, oh. All right? But now I had to, that's a good friend. I had an ex. You goddamn right. That's all the ammo I need against my op. Nigga, Ice fucked your girl, nigga. Ice. Hey, yo, that's two. That's two. Ice. Oh, shit. That's two. If Ice fucked, nigga, don't come to. Hey, yo, fam, that's two. All right, take it back. That's two. You can't take it back. Can we take it back? No, you can't take it back. Is it two in the book, so can you take it back? It's one, nigga, it's two. You gotta put the two-page back in the thing. That's really hard, dude. All right, I'm done. You were saying? No, I was just saying, I had an ex. Her parents did that where her parents were together. Moms cheated and started fucking with this dude, and then pops and his ex-wife ended up together, and both of them ended up together for 20-plus years. Oh. Yeah. Like, married, the whole shit. I was like, when they explained that shit to him, I'm like, wait. In this case, I think these two are the biggest losers. Unless they're happy. I don't, yo, niggas worked, it worked out for them, though. It's an illusion. The happiness is an illusion. That's my worry. It's temporary comfort. It's putting a band-aid. It's a possibility. I think they think they're happy. But it also could be the other. It's a possibility. Well, imagine how many times the other couple come up in their conversation, like, because that's what it's about, you know? Yeah, and once you get past that. We don't want to talk about these niggas every day. But look, they've been engaged for a few years, so maybe the first year they were in the, man, fuck them, and that's all they talked about stage. And now they may have actually fallen in love with each other. If that's the case, I'm good with it. I just, it's hard for me to believe that of all the people in the universe, you fall in love, you just happen to fall in love with the person who got left just like you did. Proximity matters, bro. Proximity does matter, but these are, he's a famous actor. She's like, these aren't people who don't have a lot of options. Also, every time for me personally anything has been started like that or if I've started something that's inappropriate it never turns out the right way cause it was wrong you know what I mean like it was based in foundation wasn't working yeah and it never works out but this foundation isn't wrong it's not wrong I mean we're controlling each other because we got left by these motherfuckers who we went on double dates with and kicked it with and by the accounts it does seem like they were fucking while we were on these double dates oh that's another piece you gotta add wait this is another piece that's very important Adam Mark said that if two people's partners start initiate cheating together and now y'all are the two scraps left over I assume that the two best sex havers left first oh that's not always the case nothing is always the case I'm assuming so the two mids the two mids could get together why do you assume that the two best sex havers left you need oh my god there's no way for me to answer your question and I don't think you're right either because especially in the case of some women some women could be holding it down and the nigga that's the bum nigga just really got good dick it's a lot of women out here taking care of homosexuals that just got good dick so now when she moved on to the next nigga homeboy still might you know what I mean now he done moved on to Sally and he busting her ass now if whatever y'all was saying was true the two leftovers wouldn't be together cooped up looking stupid and doofy no that's not true that's what I'm saying you saying they done found somebody else no so good dick man might have moved on to this nigga whiz and start busting her ass never that the good dick nigga is going to spread the good dick around town and so is the good pussy girl you ain't just going to be stuck with the first leftover person Joe the good dick nigga is now looking for solitude and he's going to be stuck with the first leftover person and refuge that nigga's going right there I remember you yeah girl and we used to hang out already you familiar with me already we got some bases let's get married that's what he's saying down the line I'm asking you I'm asking you center hall colonial knock it off good windows and good views knock it off no way let me throw another theory out there just my theory I have no evidence of this yeah maybe they're already swinging that's a possibility too and in the midst of that swing to your point the cream rose to the top the cream rose to the top see I just the crumb rose to the top it rose to the top I don't necessarily think that the first people to jump out are necessarily the indicator of yes the best situation I think fair enough I think actually the fact that these people this couple got married later might subscribe to your theory of the good dick being fucking he might have wanted to throw it around for a little longer I think I think them being in close proximity built more of an emotional and mental connection because they weren't together they laughed they joked they talked more the other niggas might have had to fire and I was keeping them around that's a possibility and you're isolating my point I'm looking at all of this in totality I'm not just saying the first two steppers had the best sex because they were the first two to step that's what you said they stepped first and these two losers consoled each other and now are engaged to be married losers it's losership well here's what they said they said first of all he explained it as when Amy left him for TJ she did I had to accept my own part in marriage not working out for me so he's saying it ain't all them he ain't a good dick nigga nope and as unusual as his love story with this new woman Phi Big is her name her last name Marilee Phi Big turned out he says this just happened to be this just happened to be our way of getting to know each other and being able to share ourselves with each other in a time where we both needed a friend she ain't got good pussy here's two people to have a good time two people it's losership two people who's gonna have a hard time in the free world how long were the original two married before they divorced and got with that's super long I'm gonna find out but not super long oh TJ and his wife TJ and and and Marilee yeah cause I can say it another way they been married for a long time and I'm getting used to this and I don't really know how to get back out there and all that shit now you just fall to shit ain't exciting no more yeah yeah the two leftovers I feel bad for these two people not doing anything the more that we talk about it cause the two people that worked together also 12 years were beautiful people yeah like optically mhm like they had that newsroom behind a desk mhm look they clearly had a chemistry and a camaraderie and I'm sure all that led to the most fire adrenaline pumping sex that you could possibly have well the best sex is when it's forbidden or when it's like taboo them other two losers is like yo they did it why not us secret why not us fuck off yeah hey good luck good luck in married world everybody deserves to find their person that's true isn't it weird how your brain works because the sex might be it might be average somebody else but the fact that you're not supposed to be doing it it's so good because you know you're not supposed to do it isn't that weird yeah sometimes once you're allowed to do it it's not good no more exactly you took my current from me so I'm gonna settle with your old work that you chose mine over nah just off GP I got this up there that's egoist that's not get back that's egoist just off GP I gotta do something different that's not get back it ain't the other nigga's up it's not get back it's not get back the other dude is up yo I had both of these yeah and picked which one I wanted and got rid of her gave her something to do which is you like a loser two losers what else we got what else we got y'all know remember I told y'all we went to the Chris Brown Usher show last week y'all know Chris does his thing where he picks a girl out the crowd sure fucks on stage basically basically so while he was looking to pick a girl he's in the family he picks a young lady and he asks her you got a man she's like no he's like alright cool brings her up there does this shit with her video goes out apparently her baby father saw this video and he happens to be a rapper so he did what any rapper would do in this case and it's time to hit the booth and maybe make a diss record to who though that's important who he dissed his baby mama oh okay because apparently she left him with the kid to go to the show yay we can hear it yeah nigga you said yay yeah I know this is good I would've played this because I was cracking up this dude made a diss record against his baby mom I'm with that for going to a show and getting on stage Joe whatever you said was lame two minutes ago about you putting this in there no this is a whole different category it's 40 times worse like that was the G League this shit right here word yeah all pro lame shit yeah you wanna stop when you know I'm in type a nigga to fuck me friends and when I'm all over you let me get in that's on my kid we'll forget about that shit that you did type a little P don't go like a pimp let's take it back to the first time I hit how you walking around with a lamp yeah I'm talking about three days remember being here that when you beat it how you eating that dick on the freeway I swear I was a friend when I see Mary there cause they know I'm a man haven't meeting it up on demand this shit wasn't part of the plan now my fucking shit here I ain't gonna play the rest of it that shit hard that shit I ain't bad that shit ain't bad that shit ain't bad but I would like to say for the record if you fuck me and I live for three days is that enjoyable like that don't sound fun to me like that's what he said that's how he starts it off remember when I first fucked you you lived for three days he in the back facts like co-signed it that don't sound good to me I didn't expect that to sound like that that sound like a single like a hit like it could be on a radio I wouldn't go that far yeah that was his shot right there yeah I'm tight I ain't mad I was cracking up at this I just had to bring it to y'all he put that out yeah does he have any other songs that's done well I don't know he sound like he already working like he already been doing something well no but what I did see he has a like a local name wherever he's from that is funny as fuck but I'm gonna take this opportunity and get my shit out there and I'm tight nigga he sounds upset where is he from though like Idaho Boston I wanna say or Rhode Island Boston that sounds right New England yeah so like what you know and she was on fire oh she was on she probably she got picked that's true that's true that's true ain't gotta say nothing else she was on fire she got picked and he wrote a song about her getting picked he should've dissed Chris is he he can't diss Chris he should've dissed Chris fuck it he should've dissed Chris he can't diss Chris he should've dissed Chris should I go viral or not nah that would've been corny if he'd have dissed Chris I would've heard it oh yeah it's all corny that's true it's all corny you go for the big target but that's levels it is levels you're a rapper you're trying to get some some notoriety off your shit you're trying to let people hear maybe verse two was for him or Brittany I think I'm making a song interview oh yeah yeah I might make a song let me see it let me see it let me see it oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that might get Joe back in fuck Pharrell that might get Joe shit yeah I get it withdrawn withdrawn withdrawn I think this is some real loser shit but I also do think that if your baby mom is going to have fun and it's not your time to have your kid she should hit her mom up Do that shit on your tongue. No, man. They'll never call. When they call their baby dad, they not being honest. They not telling you why they coming to drop that baby off. That's a fact. Yo. Oh, man. How she supposed to know she going to get picked? Nah, you know it. You can hear it in your baby mom's voice. You can hear it. All right, forget it. Never mind. Come on, move on. You can hear Chris Brown going to bring me on the stage? No, not just that. You can hear it. When your baby mom tell you why she's dropping that kid off. Her going to the show doesn't necessarily mean she was going. Like, she could have just been going to have a good time. Yeah. Your baby mom can't call you out. You're missing it. Yeah. Yeah. A good time could be a good time. Just happened to end up with, you know. Because they always call and lie. Yo, something came up. Nana got sick. Had to take her to the hospital real quick. Yo, can you hold your baby from anywhere? Yeah, of course I'll hold my baby. How long it's going to be? It can either be four hours. Or three days. Or four nights. Like, I got to see how Nana's doing. Right. And, you know, the doctor's down. The insurance. You be sitting out. You got to take Nana to Miami. Yeah. Oh, my. Yeah. Yo, you being out stuck with your kid, like, oh. You on a yacht, nigga. Yeah, when your baby mom drop your kid off to you, she going on a yacht or a jet somewhere with Burner Boy. It's about to be bad. It's so funny when you say that. That's why real niggas, you got to just deny. Nah, I'm busy. Actually, you got to match lie for lie. When they Nana sick, you better have you a sick family member in the tuk-tuk. Oh, shit, why don't you say that? I'm just so happy I'm in Virginia. I'm in Virginia. Yeah, I'm not even in town. Anyway, love wins. Love wins. Always, always. Yeah, we got this breaking, not breaking, this new development in the Caesar case. You ever following this? Mark, this story is way more fun for you to intro this like this. Okay. Come on, come on, Mark. Come on, we don't need NPR writing. Hey, Caesar. Come on out. Hey. That's better. Podcasters have been waiting a lot of years for this. You thought you was slick, trying to move all your assets in your wife's name. They got them. They got them. They got them. They got them. I want to shout out to Envy for separating himself from this hootenanny and this hootenanny. This foolishness. And yeah, they got Caesar pled guilty to everything. Pled guilty to wire fraud, tax evasion, lying, scheming, telling those good people that you could get their investment up 30, 40%, and then paying them back with the money that you stole from the fucking checkers workers or whatever the fuck you was stealing from. Caesar, bad plan gone even worse, man. I do not root for people to go to jail, but you earned your bed. You absolutely earned your bed. Remember, hospital. Corners, if your bunkie allows you to make them. Yo, and they got in for some serious shit. I didn't realize they had them for laundering cash for narcotics traffickers and bribing a politician. They might roof him, even with the plea. He's a fat case, right? Yeah. Yeah. Which is the safest place, probably, for Caesar to be. Because, uh, yeah, street's talking still. Yeah. Street's still talking. That little can of beer makes your brother ran up on me with? That ain't going to get it done for what the streets are saying. I don't know if y'all been in the streets. I don't know if you and your family been in the streets. I don't know if the streets listening, but they're still looking for you, buddy. Hey, they'll be outside the jail when you're up on release date. He looking at a max of 20 years. No. That's his max? That's a max penalty. Each chart. So, for wire fraud, it's a max of 20. For money laundering, conspiracy, max of 20. What's about duty probation for bribing a politician? Uh, bribery involving federal funds, max of 10. And Tribal Act bribery, max of 5. 5? I don't know. I'm looking at his body mass index. He might, he might, three years might be a life sentence for him, man. I don't know. He didn't look too healthy last time I saw him. I think I locked up a phone. I don't know. He looking unhealthy. But I'm thinking three to five for him. I see five. Caesar, listen, you're a good guy, so I'll give you a couple fucking words of wisdom, man. Fucking thin lotion horrible for a Fifi. Oh, my God. Yeah, you got it. You got it. Jerky. Jerky. The cherry smelling one? The almond. Almond joint? Don't put no, no frill shit in the Fifi, yo. No shit? No defending, man. No shit. No defending. You got to fold the towel up right if you really want that grip. The fact that he know what a Fifi is is crazy. Why would I not know what a Fifi is? Because when we first had a conversation about the Fifi, you told me that you had a Fifi in the rehab, and I never heard that. I never heard of niggas doing that. Niggas go to jail, do time, and have a Fifi. You don't have a Fifi. This nigga said fold the mat in half. Yeah, that's crazy. Wait, we ain't folded? Some niggas putting that shit in between the mattress get dirty. That's a real Fifi, the mattress. Yeah. You fold the whole mat, just go right. You don't even need a Fifi. Just fuck the mat. You know what? Just go to town on the mat. Y'all got it? Like, Fifi is jerking off. Fold the mat, that's it. Why? He's hip thrusting. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you for that. He's hip thrusting. Yo. I'm surprised to see you. Uh-oh. I'm shocked to even see you. We'll talk about it later. I'm on air right now. I'm on air right now, but it's good to see you nice and alive. I've seen the scoreboard. You got my money? You came here with some money? It's motherfuckers. We'll talk later, man. Anyway, what else is going on? What else is going on? Joe, you had a theory about some shit. I was trying to understand what you was talking about with the George G.W. Bridge shit. Oh, yeah, man. Yeah, man. So, listen. A few days ago in New Jersey, well, actually in New York, coming into New Jersey, it was a horrible, fatal, fatal incident that took place on the bridge. It stopped traffic. It stopped traffic on the world. It was the world's busiest bridge. That was right when we left the pod. I got caught in that traffic. I seen all the fucking. Yeah, I thought it was just an accident or some shit. When I saw the pictures, I was like, oh, that was the car that was over there. But it was weird because there was mad cops and fucking. Yeah. There was a shooting. I know. I didn't realize that at the time. He wouldn't know that. No, he wouldn't know that. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't know it if I would have thought about it. I just thought it was an accident. I was like, it's weird. There's all these cops over here. I also wouldn't think it would be a shooting on the G.W. Bridge. According to what's been reported, a car coming onto the upper level in that curve. That little curve is a little. It's a little funny. It's a little. Nobody's going to stay in the lane during the curve. But anyway, that car veered into a lane a little bit. And to what's been reported, the driver, as he drove by, pulled out a gun and shot into that vehicle. No, they had a little. I think they had a little word. It's like a little bit of road rage dialogue. I heard none of that. No, it says. There's no word. Surveillance footage shows. He shot driving. There wasn't no word. Right. No, he caught up to him and shot. Surveillance footage shows they nearly collided on the entrance ramp. The other driver began aggressively following Irving. Irving is the. Gentleman that was killed. Corwin Irving. Defective. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. The other driver began aggressively following Irving, then pulled alongside his vehicle. The driver fired one gunshot through Irving. Irving's rear passenger side window. The bullet passed near the headrest, struck his shoulder, and exited through his neck. And then he lost control and crashed. That is fucking crazy. Lost control. He crashed. And all the reports said by the time they arrived on the scene, he was dead. They shipped him to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. Pronounced dead. And all I could say. Boy, go ahead. And the shooter just kept going like nothing happened. Yeah, yeah. He kept going. So now, naturally. Especially when that story is reported, all I'm saying is, well, they got every camera in the world on the George Washington Bridge. Yeah, yes, they do. Who on earth would pull out a gun and fire into a car on the GW Bridge? I'm sure they're going to have this guy's face plastered everywhere, his license plate plastered everywhere, and make and model of his car plastered everywhere. It wasn't. Nope. Mm-hmm. It wasn't. No, we were just talking about when you see the shit on the overpasses and stuff, like the silver BMW license. Oh, yeah. We were just talking about that. Amber alerts and all that stuff. You didn't get none of that. No, we were just talking about when you see the shit on the overpasses and stuff, like So once new information came out, and the family of the deceased, they've already hired an attorney, and the new information, they're saying, the family's attorney is saying that special privileges are being given to the guy that did the shooting because he's a retired sheriff or retired cop. Retired detective. Narcotics detective. Yeah, retired somewhere around 2002. Retired detective. Oh, one. There we go, again. So they do know who it is now. Yeah. Now they know. Now they know who it is. But still, we've seen no picture of him plastered everywhere. Yeah. We have not seen the car. And if we've seen the car now, it's many hours after this happened. They say this guy's charge, which started as a murder, got brought down to a manslaughter charge. First degree manslaughter. This guy also was allowed to go in for questioning and leave. This guy also was allowed to keep his service pistol. After he retired in 2001, there are also sketchy details around when he retired because he was involved in a shooting. Another incident. Of course he was. He was involved in another shooting to where he got hit and he was held, deemed as a hero in that shooting. But now that's being investigated because this guy's a little reckless. Clearly he's Looney Tunes. You don't just shoot in a window and keep going like that if you're not a psycho. Over some, I mean, we all get a little road rage, but like pulling out a pistol over the road rage. Road rage is, lock them up. When he first read it, I'm thinking he's going to say they almost collided and then the one that got shot followed him and that's why he responded like, why you following me on my ass like that? You just mad as shit. shit because he almost hit your car i don't get how that's not what do though that seems like murder one yeah that's i'm lost like you pulled your gun out and shot to do what right baby in there or what it don't sound like murder one don't it's manslaughter but why why why would he manslaughter that ain't manslaughter because you can't say his intention was to murder somebody you can't keep it going why the fuck are you shooting a driver in the passenger window at the driver you're not trying to kill nobody i still don't say his intention you can kill up above your chest you're gonna hit somebody in the chest if you're shooting into a car your intent is to yeah using a deadly weapon as a cop what's crazy what what no i'm saying you can charge it i am of course and i don't want to make it i i don't want to i don't want to make it seem as if he didn't have i don't want to i don't want to understate his intent i get the battle when you battle in a legal case you're going they're going to want to charge what they can convict so that they don't exactly if they want to convict sometimes we get mad sometimes when they hit them with murder one and then they get off you get it right because they charge them incorrectly in the beginning knowing that the motive or the intent couldn't be proven yeah so if they're giving them first degree manslaughter i mean you can't be mad at that but um my question to y'all was do you think that some foul business is in play a thousand yeah absolutely okay i mean if they police is foul protecting their own shit anytime one of them is involved yeah if a police officer being accused of anything assumes a foul play when they knew that and they traced the bullet ballistics to that particular gun they wouldn't have let us come home new jersey don't have bell like they wouldn't let us come home so i think they charge them in new york though because i think his bell was a million dollars yeah because new jersey don't have that new york ain't exactly lax with gun laws at all no that's true too that's true you're right i agree with that you get cops just get a different it's a different thing it's just a different joe there's another cop story well hold on i'm not i'm not i'm not done with this yet or because it's just it's just wild shit happening on the bridge it's just a different thing it's just a different thing it's just a different thing so i want people to be aware uh and again rest in peace to that man that lost his life in this horrible uh horrible fatal story uh the next day i happened to just be on the bridge in what looked like a traffic jam and this 18 wheeler had smashed into some civic civic right yeah it was it was it was tough over there and then the day after that a motorcyclist was killed we were on the george washington i was putting that traffic yeah he's about there so again i just want to say rest in peace to anybody lost their lives uh it's wild shit happening over there on the bridge it's also halloween mischief night's approaching be careful while you're driving yeah drive carefully it ain't that serious there's lunatics outside there's some real real real loonies outside out there trying to do some race car shit just to get to work two minutes earlier or whatever like it's not that serious which brings me to the next story here that i wanted to talk about uh new jersey ranked number two on the worst drivers list i saw that bullshit you can't be shocked that is not one there's nobody worse than the jersey driver i'll die on that hill i don't give a fuck you niggas can't drive who was the top 10 states with the worst drivers 10 montana nine california okay eight district of columbia seven idaho six kane what five washington four rhode island three is utah two is new jersey number one is north dakota half those states shouldn't even like there's come on a third of the cars and the states with the best drivers 10 is missouri nine is mississippi eight is pennsylvania seven west virginia pennsylvania drivers are also not the greatest my experience but they have clear roads probably something they got amish people out way out in pa like driving seven west virginia six texas five texas illinois four connecticut three colorado two florida and number one on the best drivers list is michigan and she said florida at two best all right yeah yeah i don't i don't know what their criteria is but florida has highways with six six we said seven drivers i don't care about the yeah but these are things that help on the worst driver list so i know it's some bullshit yeah where's georgia my fuckers in atlanta cannot drive atlanta's that pretty dc shouldn't be that low and they're not going by city they're going by state guys dc yeah dc should definitely be on the list it should dc is hard somewhere yeah i will say it's based on the lowest rate of driving incidents accidents duis and citations per thousand drivers oh that's oh then new jersey new jersey's yeah north dakota only got 12 drivers bunch of new jersey's gonna be hot no new jersey does have i wanted to argue this list but i can't new jersey has some of the worst drivers when i really think about it new jersey's densely populated it's the population it's the population density it's also the way that i mean that's the nice way of saying what i was trying to say it's also the uh the way y'all roads is is not really the most well laid out and i think it inspires y'all to be bad drivers yo stop i think they're just terrible i think you're all bombs because i know he about to go and no what'd you say because i agree with that i said the way the roads are laid out it's kind of bad drivers i think they're just terrible i think they're all bombs so i think it inspires y'all to be bad drivers i 100 agree with that and something else i know because do you because i look in the cars i know where he's going no way he was going i look in the cars i look i look in the cars we'll be in the car i just listen to me yeah because i'm not trying to say what y'all think i'm saying you're trying to say exactly what the fuck i think what i'm saying is you profile i look in the car no matter who won the road exchange if i won i look over and if you won i look over it'd be done i don't know what that mean what does it mean it's okay the bad drivers that it's a lot of them they moved to new jersey they moved they live here now they've taken over areas that's not talking about that's not spoken about enough in gentrification conversations is what it does to the drivers the the drivers that are from here live here like you that come who are they though just say it the bad driver people that's not from here that like where are they from i don't know not here yo you know what's funny this how fucked up the world is getting i can't even be as fucking stereotypy as i want to be because because uber drivers and people that gotta stare at the gps while they drive them niggas have taken over the road too so it's not just the people that y'all know i'm talking about it's also the people that staring at a phone driving two miles per hour what about when they gotta do it too who's driving the uber oh shit oh god damn it man wow it's fucked up but it's true who's driving ubers people humans drivers a lot of suzuki's on the road a lot of those motherfuckers anyway anyway uh moving on i'm sure we have more important things to talk about than stereotyping and the bad drivers but y'all know who would be and the bad drivers and girls come on that's the problem too girls is driving true i think older people are more of a problem and older people they need to have a cut off of when you can't drive new jersey had new jersey is top three and all the bad drivers we got the women we got the older people we got the uber people and we got them that we can't say but you know they can't drive they're too good at everything else women really can't drive they're too good you keep giving it up man them niggas are too good at too much shit mad they get mad that's our answer mad science uh anyway we do have some serious shit that we need to get to dame dash sold his well no his life rights were auctioned off he didn't sell anything his life rights were indeed auctioned off we talked about this a few months back what was the final number on this five hundred thousand five fifty something like that i think that's disgusting five fifty why do you think it's disgusting ish i think that somebody shouldn't be able to put a price tag on my rights not just that let's just say oh this is the same take you had uh yeah like yeah like let's just say his rights could have sold for two or three million dollars like for the right people in the right hands they could have made twenty thirty million dollars off of dame's life rights but he sold them but wasn't in the auction they got auctioned off like sold cause he owed creditors no so so it's not a price like an auction is what somebody obviously nobody was willing to pay more than five fifty for it that's how this whoever won won yeah but that don't mean that dame at a at some point in time couldn't have made ten twenty thirty million off his own rights but you don't have that option but you don't have that option yeah when you owe him I think all your assets that's why I'm asking about your your stance when you don't have that option yeah I just think that we don't do that to everybody that ends up in bankruptcy court like actually this is one of the first times I've ever heard that like oh you think it's a conspiracy like when somebody owes money and they don't they run out of assets they just run out of assets it's not but he didn't run out of assets everybody's not he didn't run out of assets his life rights are assets if they if they got a situation where you had assets you just had to but he just has this other card that most regular people don't have because most people don't want to buy their life rights they don't care but I've heard of Trump I've heard of other people that had more quote unquote cachet and more assets than dame and I've never maybe it just might be I've never heard of it I've never heard of these niggas having their life rights auctioned off to pay a creditor wait but if I'm the purchaser what am I getting the ability to make a movie the ability to write a book you can have a four part series an eight part series series on dame's life and make all of that money right back yeah yeah 550 is nuts right that's serious that's wild 550 is crazy it's not wow when you owe and they on your ass so my question is this so still like put this in context though if i owe the what the country who are we talking about creditors i owe creditors irs whatever why can another person spend 550 000 to now own me and and i owe more than that i'm sure he owed more than that so how do you like why does it sell where's the gauge point why does it sell for 550 and why do i and why do i give somebody the the autonomy to make he didn't give it 2.7 billion dollars off be clear he's not no not him tearing for any of this right and i think to answer your question the creditors or at least one had an attorney who filed paperwork to argue that he's not doing any of this right and i think to answer your question the creditors or at least one had an he still has an asset because he has an asset which is his his his life rights so give us those so we so so we want to try to get some of this money back we want to sell them that's how they got to an auction so he's not volunteering in any of this but there's no other choice in this my question to y'all is is that a good number y'all happy with that number for dame's life rights no it says no if i'm the if i'm a purchaser i'm ecstatic yeah if you're the purchaser you just bought a bins for 350 which is what happens at auctions sometime right you get a car on the low you get a house on the low that you wouldn't get if he was selling the private i'm not the biggest dame dash fan but that's wild 500 he's worth more he's worth more than 550 and today's right now like he might not be worth shit but he worth 550 come on and i would just want to add it's also i don't know that it's also 100 hours of video content photographs and memorabilia too that's crazy what is it it's like it's archives of yeah this is shit everlasting films llc the same company blah blah blah was a winner uh playing 550 000 for exclusive worldwide rights and i'm not saying that's a bad thing but i'm not saying that's a bad thing but i'm saying rights to dame's life story as well as 100 hours of video content photographs and memorabilia on top of that they'll get the rights to a quote unreleased in development documentary film project they gonna do him dirty in that movie about his life yo he didn't even to be totally honest he didn't really have that much debt it was 25 mil but his 25 what his 25 million most of that was taxes so like creditors like individual creditors what he might have had six million worth the creditors like i think dame's life rights are going to generate and they didn't sell for more right and they didn't sell more than a third he had like right 4.8 million y'all keep saying that and i feel like that's y'all being optimistic about it because we know who dame dash is we know his story we know who's involved and we see the value in it there's a flip side to that coin yes sir where it gets less and less and less and less and less valuable he's making he keeps talking and if he continues to talk about it he's going to get less and less and less and less and he continues down the path that he's on i swore i would never talk about him again but if he continues to look a certain way there there is a chance that these people ain't gonna recoup none of that shit i mean who goes to see who goes to see the dame dash biopic we're not about to act like if dame dash if there was something on netflix tomorrow that says the rise and fall of dame dash we will be talking about this next podcast and it would be how much is that worth it's not it ain't like the diddy doc put it up put it on that's true it is true i wouldn't run it out you think the dame dash doc is the same as the diddy doc no i'm not saying it's the same because it's not as salacious so it's not going to draw as many you put something number three on you put something number three on netflix because you know it's all business it's not just view it's not just views if if if you put something number three on netflix like when we cut it on now we talking about a demographic that's not even who give a fuck about dame dash it's number three on netflix how much crash that translates i'm asking because i don't know i don't know either i'm gonna say this i'm gonna say this i watch what niggas is making on youtube and i think that if niggas can make whatever on youtube off of clips and views if you really had somebody that was puffs doc who who did puff doc 50 right 50 but whoever was behind the cinematography to all of that shit and with that money that they generated off of the puff doc i think you easily get 550 back i think you easily get there's another day there's another part too because dame keep talking so he keep telling his story it's like you get in the dame doc already so now you're making the the footage and all of this shit cheapening it you're cheapening it no but i'm gonna take the story that dame told and i'm gonna put it a reenactment unseen footage from a hundred hours of unseen rockefeller footage and all of that shit what else do you do with it other than make a movie what else do you do with that shit and that's all you do when the rockefeller members uh say no you can't use none of our shit that we in oh baby yeah that's true how valuable does it look then mona you were saying you were trying to say what i wasn't trying to say nothing about what you say a hundred hours of footage and pictures and yeah how to get ass all news what are you talking about how you just going up and just they they got took his shit they took a hundred hours and be clear again i'm going off the dome here i think the the person that eventually won the bid started low at like 88 grand yeah so they went up a bunch to secure the rights to this thing i don't think they've walked away feeling like oh god like i think they feel like they're paid for something they wanted and they did i think that's crazy i think that's a competitive rate honestly me too i think it's competitive rate that's crazy i think they're paid more for bad babies fucking life rights that 550 is atrocious i agree i all that good numbers shit i'm sorry like 550 is wild let me ask you a question let me ask you a question i was about to ask him what you go ahead oh if if it's worth more why didn't someone offer more like if you can make such if you can make such a such a profit that's the way i was going do you know where to go to do that do you answer the question because that's modern day business hold up sir hold up let me i can answer you a house could be worth a million dollars a house could be worth for half a million dollars and selling the auction for 70 grand 80 grand if you don't have enough people they're bidding on it that don't mean that the house is not carrying a higher value than what it was procured for right but your interest is new variable which is people don't know about it everybody knew about the dame dance okay if you see a fine if you see a fine female you say man i want that and she said only a hundred dollars you gonna say baby you worth a thousand you won't you will never tell somebody the pride the the proper price to appropriate something like you don't mean to that's what they're worth more to your fine female point if it's a one if it's one fine female and two dudes and they bidding back in 440 and one gets to a thousand dollars and the other one say all right i ain't going no higher than that she's only worth a thousand dollars to those who's willing to pay that's all i'm saying that was a real misogynistic example i mean i just wanted to address anything in the world in a box to anything though obviously those who showed up to the auction somebody said all right i'm i'm out yeah somebody back that's like when we play monopoly like you know you're on price or not synonymous no but i'm only talking about value i know the value so we cannot put value is subjective so if we only have x amount of said people in the room that subjectiveness is only around that group of people regardless of what because if you had me in that room like i would process it different you get what i'm saying so once somebody said 550 and it got quiet i'm like oh 620 but this is just how i process it or you know the value of it and you can do something with it so we only could get i don't want to hear that i'm saying hollywood niggas love to make money there's everybody knew this auction if they thought they can if they thought they could make a five million dollars if they just paid 650 they would have did it no and to my point nigga you wasn't that dog auction and that's no but that's what we say it's just subjective but that's the point subjective to the people that was there on top of let's not act like it was a media blast that damn dad shit was on yo it was this no it wasn't it was years ago it was years ago it wasn't because i remember cam and mace was talking about bidding on or giving them some money whatever the case may be that wasn't for his life wasn't world news that wasn't for his life you know what i'm saying well all of his shit got oh fucked up but no that was for his share and reasonable doubt yeah just the bell it wasn't world news like a million people were fine you know how many drug deals is going on like man i wish he sold him to you for that i gave him a little bit more like i wasn't at the deal right but i'm back to mark's question like how many stores people know to run in to sell life it's very limited information let me tell you something once you get it what you're gonna do with it that's my point it's like people own they fucking hey i own my man i own 100 of my mansions all right awesome you don't know the store to go to you don't know how to license you don't know where to go enough for that to be valuable you just own it let me tell you what hulu gonna do which brought to my point hold up a second and i'll talk right back to you hulu is gonna wait for you to be down even more bad and then go fair usage you to death with all news clips and say the rise of hulu and fall of dame and dash they're not gonna need your life rights to produce that right like i think we're thinking about two different things the news the news pieces that are gonna come out on dame dash they don't need nor want his life right which is why they're not at the auction yeah they're not paying nothing for it you gotta have an actual plan when you purchase his life right so go ahead so the person that owns his life rights is they don't have a i'm asking because i don't know the person that purchased dame's life rights if hulu or whatever big outfit comes and wants to do a doc on dame they don't have to get the okay from the people that own his life rights no the first it's not a legal battle there no the first amendment allows you to do it doesn't so what's the fight so what am i paying a 550 for if i don't own what i'm paying to own yeah it it gives you the i'm gonna read to you what and it's everlasting films llc yeah like check it out like that's who like mike tyson mike tyson has a piece on netflix right now mike tyson may or may not have sold his life rights to the hulu community his life rights, so he's a participant. He's involved. He's with the planning. This is a piece that they probably can't really do without him. Him okaying. It's not one of the rise and fall of Mike Tyson pieces, which would be more a news piece. It wouldn't be classified as a documentary. But they wouldn't have hours and hours of footage, et cetera, et cetera, on Dame and them to include into the documentary. Only if it's available. If he signed off on it. No. No, no, no, no. They go to, like if somebody's trying to do some Joe Budden shit, they can go to the fair usage vault of Joe Budden and use anything that they want. Outside of that, you got to speak to me. They can't. Yeah, newspaper articles, some shit they pull off YouTube, whatever the case may be. Me on MTV, me on 106 and Park, like five little seconds of it. Go ahead. That's why life rights aren't as valuable as we might think they are. Because I don't need, it's not like now with these life rights, I'm the only person that can write. That could do something. They can make a day best movie. It protects me from lawsuits. What? It makes me less likely to get invasion of privacy, complaints, defamation suits, things like that. Real quick. One more thing, it usually allows you to get access to the person. In this case, it doesn't because Dame ain't participating. But usually, life rights is more like, it makes your life easier as a producer to do like his stories. But if you're famous, anybody can make a story about you. It says, Everlasting Films LLC won a bankruptcy auction to secure the exclusive world rights to Dame Dash. The production company, which is linked to producer and writer Brian Brown. Berkson placed a winning bid of $550. The deal was formally submitted to a Florida federal bankruptcy court by trustee Tracy K. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's included in this sale? The comprehensive asset package purchased by Everlasting Films was the narrative rights, exclusive worldwide rights to produce film, exclusive, so I'm sure that means something, worldwide rights to produce film, documentary, and book projects about his life, archival material, and unreleased work. So if it's exclusive, like, it's not certain things. Like, my distro company, if we do a feature, and you put it on, Apple Music, that's dead. They're going to dead it. It's not going to go. So if I have exclusive worldwide rights to produce film, documentary, or books, anything that come out in that capacity, they could clip. The difference is, like you said, if you do a feature, Dame not doing a feature. They going into old clips and old shit that you already put out there and just grabbing that. They not talking to you. They not doing nothing with you. And what I'm saying is this company can shut down anything that falls under that bracket. Absolutely. Half that is, they're paying for exclusive rights. The First Amendment allows you to. If that were the truth, then there'd only be one movie by Lincoln, one movie by King, one movie by Michael Jackson. So that means that tomorrow we could drop the rise and fall of Dame Dash is what y'all telling me. Absolutely. Yes. Based on public shit. Absolutely. Not based on nothing private. Not based on nothing that's exclusively. Yeah, like, for example, Diddy didn't give up his worldwide rights. But we would have to go find public, like you said, YouTube shit and shit like that. Yeah. And we free. Yeah. Hold up, say what you're saying. Yeah, like, Diddy didn't give up his life rights, but that documentary that came out on Netflix was about him. It went to all. It went to all the details. They talked to other people. They interviewed people. And unreleased shit. Yeah. Right. Because they have access to it. As a journalist, I can go and access archives. I can access stuff. The life rights, again, doesn't give you what people think it is. That's why it's not worth $50 million or $60 million. They paid the camera dude. I'm lost, though. Remember the camera dude was so confused. It's all right. You wasn't at the auction. We got to move on. We got to move on. We don't care that much. None of us is about to buy it. Would you have paid for it if you, would you have bought it? No. Fuck no. Just on principle? Just because he don't want it. That's the principle I'm talking about. No, I think there's value in it. I think there's value in it. I would be scared. I would be afraid of the risk of deteriorating value and not being able to be in control of it. It's not like buying a company that's down bad. You're like, you know what? I can turn it around. Can I ask you a question, Joe? This one, hold up a minute. This one, somebody else is in control of making it be down bad. Right. And so who doesn't have an interest in you keeping it down? That would scare me. That would scare me. Pardon? Real question. If you're Dame, do you try to take this? Like, yes. I keep doing whatever I can now to make it, if I don't own my life rights, I don't want y'all- To be more of an idiot? Not an idiot. I won't call him that, but to just make it more, to lose more value. That's what I'm saying, like to act more crazy. Now I'm going to keep wilding out. Right, that's what I mean, like to act more crazy. Yeah, and honestly, I don't think Dame even knows that he's wilding out right now. Yeah, I think y'all wrong, too. I think that, God forbid, something happens to Dame. The value don't necessarily keep diminishing. I think that value skyrockets. And we've seen that with- I'm with you there. I'm with you there. Got a point. So to somebody with hella paper, 550 is a drop in the bucket. It's a tax write-off if it don't pop. I'm with you there. And if it do pop, then I can make 10X, 100X. Even if I 2X, I still won. Every businessman is thinking about a 2X. I just can't fathom the conversation to people saying that. 550 is not a still deal. It's not worth- You know what I mean? He's worth more than that, bro. Dame, we love you, and we hope everything works out. Indeed. Whether you got it or whether you don't, man. Listen, so I wanted to touch on this pause before we get out of here. So I want to talk about the six police officers out in Charlotte who have now resigned, but they were running a competition to see who could pull over and arrest more black people. Wow. Four of them resigned. Two of them were suspended. Six police officers have resigned in Charlotte, North Carolina, after investigators uncovered a group chat allegedly featuring a competition to stop the most black drivers. Police Chief Estella Patterson called the allegations deeply troubling and said she hopes those responsible never work in law enforcement. Again, two other officers remain suspended, while the police chief has requested federal civil rights scrutiny and a review of past arrest traffic stops and body camera footage. Now, I read this story when it first happened, and didn't pay it any mind. That's a tough part. Yeah, it sounds all familiar. If you black and you got a card, then you know about this. But then they released a photo of the six individuals. One of them black, right? And one of them is black. With a receding hairline. That, that, that made this. What's his name? That's what I want to know. I have some dudes that Jeremiah was. Doofus. They all had. Did you get his name? What's Jeremiah? I don't have the names. Black is. If I saw all the. If I saw all the names, I'd be able to pick out the black. I want to know who he is. He might be a Stanley, though. He might be. Black people often talk about the worst running with police they have are with black cops. It happens. The worst running cop with black female police. Worst people around here. See, for me, it's black cops that be with white cops. It's a difference. You come across a black cop, and you come across a black cop that's with a white cop, it's a difference. You said it in Fuck the Police, man. I guess you could name all the different. It's definitely different. Different scenarios, for sure. But what type of weirdo black cop do you have to be. A goofy nigga. I don't think that's a weirdo. I think they're already weird when they join the police force. It's not really a place for black people to be. Yo, dawg. You have to do that job. You have to. That's what they do. They stereotype niggas. So if you take that job as a black person, you have to stereotype niggas, too. It ain't no black cop. Cool, but if you stereotype a nigga, I'm not. It's not doing some type of wrong to their own people to keep that job, is my personal opinion. If you stereotype a nigga, it's cool. That's still fucked up. But I'm not sitting in a group chat. But I'm not sitting in a group chat with five other white cops talking about black people following racial slurs. It's conditioning, though. We're going to be 1,000, because if any one of us joined the police force tomorrow, we would be 1,000% pro-black. That's called conditioning. That man has been that type of person all his life. He's hated black people. That man right there grew up in some way, shape, or form around people that was putting in his head his whole life that black people are inferior to the white man. And he was around white. You don't think some black guys go to the police they become police, and then they get like that from working with them motherfuckers? Yes, for sure. Yes, I do. No, I don't necessarily think that about the race. I think that them niggas be assholes, and they might feel like if you in the street, you less than. Or if you doing this, then you less than. These niggas is having a group chat. They release some of the text messages. These niggas is sitting in there using racial slurs. So I'm not less. And religious slurs. Some black men don't be black from the start, though. That's the conversation that's not being had. You take a black man that was born. You don't even got to go to most. Most hooded spot in New Jersey. A black man from Union, New Jersey, or Hillside, New Jersey, is different than a black man born and raised in Marlton, New Jersey. True. Period. Like, everything about your existence, no matter where you find a job, in a 20-mile radius of Marlton, New Jersey, all your co-workers will be white. I went to school at Cherokee. The school was 4% black. This is conditioning. This is not a black man. It's crazy. This is not a black man doing some white person shit. This is a. That's a white man. Man, some of these motherfuckers get into that police department and see blue. And it's not. True. And now it's us versus them. And if we all. If they think that them are the enemy, I'm rolling with them. I'm agreeing with that. The racial part. The racial slurs. You saying, yo, this is my team. This is my gang. It's the blue gang. All right, cool. I'm with them, right? But I'm talking about the racial slurs. And the group chat separates being a cop that's on a cop team versus you being against black people. When the group chat. You can get the most. All right, let's not adopt their vernacular. If you join the police force, right, and you notice this cop is doing something wrong, he's being aggressive, he's beating all minorities, whatever. If you tell him, they shit in your locker. True. Like, the whole atmosphere is, we're a gang, this is what we do. And you outside that nigga, you can't be fucked with us, period. We got to hire you because we got to hire a certain amount of you guys a year. So that's why it's like I don't get why it's like. I'm not participating in the group chat. No, black people do it all the time because their parents and their grandparents be cops and all that. I just think that once you get in there and see that shit and once you get to not being honest about it. stuff, not telling, not stopping your partner from stopping the nigga brain out here, you fuck yourself up. I tell you what. As soon as you join, you pick the wrong side, bitch-ass nigga, we ain't friends. I don't think at 40 you don't just start hating black people. And these is all young guys. By the way, Joe, can you name the black person in the group? The six officers are Mateo Juarez, Joseph Kelly, Alexander Larson, Triton Maronich, or Maronic, Matthew Osborne, or Jeremiah Todman. It's either Joe Kelly or Jeremiah. I think it's Todman. I tell you what, if I was arrested by one of them, I'm going to phone my lawyer. We trying, yo, get to work. Immediately. Thousand percent. Thousand percent. Immediately. As soon as that shit come out. My thing is it's a broader conversation, and the broader conversation to me is they were allowed to retire. So when you're allowed to resign, then you keep your benefits and all that other shit, and that's what I look at as fucked up. But can y'all see now, this is my point about Jason Lee a couple weeks ago when I said, they let everybody resign. No, I understood your point then. Yeah, it's like the exceptions is firing people. That's the privilege of being a cop. You get to resign first. Unless you do something heinous to the point where the people above you don't fuck with you. Like what? What's the level? I think that if you're sergeant, or I mean you're captain, don't fuck with you, they not going to look out for you. No, you're going to get fired. You're going to go to jail. Shit like that. But when they fuck with you, and the higher-ups fuck with you, they'll cover up some shit. They'll do a bunch of shit. The cops that beat the kid in Bloomfield, New Jersey. Yo, they covered up this shit for mad long, yo. They whipped his ass. They went on the other side of the parkway, jumped out, hit his car, and whipped his ass. They couldn't find the footage for years. And some white reporter lady found the footage. They were stomping him on the ground like, don't hit me! Don't go for my gun! They gave both of them five or ten years apiece. But they tried to cover it up for years. So if they fuck with you, they'll cover it up and let you resign. But if they don't fuck with you, then they'll hang you out. So is law enforcement the most coddled job you could possibly have in America right now? A lot of shit in politics. Like a doctor doesn't get away with that. A teacher doesn't get away. Is there a higher job that you could have outside of politics aside? And that's not true. Doctors, you can fuck up some shit, and they'll find a way to make it not your fault. That's an interesting question. A lot of this shit, bro, a lot of these doctors be killing people, and they'll cover it up. They'll cover it up. But I think police are different. I think you could, but it's like doctors is getting outed way more than, like, cops. Police have power, bro. I feel like they're the most coddled level of power, bro. Employee, like, the job you have in America. I just want to come on and call him Uncle Tom real quick. I just want to come on and call him funny names. I just want to diss him real quick. Yeah, fuck him. I wasn't trying to unpack everything. I wasn't trying to. Jeremiah, I knew it. I just wanted to diss this dude real quick. It's Jeremiah. But, I mean, fuck him. Before we get out of here, speaking of doctoring things while we got Sue Surf here, if there's anything you want to say to the general public out there, man. You got shit stirred up out there, bro. They saying your shit been doctored. I'm trying to keep this shit stirred up. Hopefully, it's still like that. If they ain't talking about me, I kind of feel a little weird. I go into depressive states, but I'm not. You're saying you ain't writing none of that Press 9 shit. Yeah, I know. Like, that's. For me, it's like. Right? When I be thinking about that shit, I just be. It be so upset. And not about the writing part, right? Because, like, you knew me all my life. I wrote for Conceited. I was in your basement. I know. When I wrote for Conceited. And you wouldn't let me have male company. I took the blame for it, too, when you lost that one. I was like, damn. I ain't losing Conceited. Shut up. But, um, anyway. Uh, okay. Yeah, I ain't losing Conceited. But that's neither here nor there. That's subjective. Yeah, you wouldn't let me have male company. Yeah, Joe wouldn't let no male friends come over. If it was legs, it's cool. He ain't really tripping. But there ain't no niggas coming to Joe House. Nah. I'm, like, 24, 25. He went with that. And Surf is the exact friend that that rule should apply to. Yeah, because it'd be a couple homies in there. Unwarranted. But, um, my biggest thing was, like, would you believe a pastor in a strip club? Yeah. Yeah. If a pastor was, like, hanging in a strip club, you would believe him? Yes. No, you would think he was morally corrupt. Believe his word? Believe his word. Like, he's morally corrupt. Like, he's like. What are you saying? Ain't no pastor. Ain't no pastor going to no strip clubs. One of our favorite pastors from your hood. I'm not believing. You know what I'm talking about. And where you from? My hood. And that nigga was the man, and we all fucked with him. Yeah. We not gonna get into that. Because then you start looking at you, me, and more people, and they start knowing who we talking about. That's neither here nor there. I personally. Y'all better not be talking about my past. I personally. Oh, then don't say a word about my past. Rest in peace to the God of Rev Ron. Fuck they talking about, niggas. Strip club in heaven. I personally would not believe. That's just me. I'm not believing no Muslim man standing in front of Christmas tree. I'm sorry. I'm not believing no Muslim man taking Christmas pic. Like, that's just me. So, we gotta look at the texture of the person that some things is coming from. So, now, when I hear. You know, when you see social media going up and it's. Rowling up, or whatever the case may be. Like, at what point do we talk about the source? So, it's hard for me to get worked up. Like, let's say if Joey was saying something. Like, I might be yelling with, like, with the veins coming out my neck to explain myself. But when. You know, I realized that, that the internet needs something to talk about. It's not. It's not. The source not good enough for me. Do you understand people's, like. No. Pushback and outrage? Not one bit. Not at all. And I'm gonna tell you why. And I went off on a battle rap culture about this, right? Because the battle rap culture know exactly what the fuck I was talking about. Right? So, now, listen. Even if I was to call you and say, hey, Ish, I got a battle coming up. What do you think about this? Right? That is you helping me. Period. I think you could take this angle. I think you could take that angle. Right. I don't like your third round. I don't like your first round. So, now, when I'm talking to my peers, because that's what I'm talking about, I said, all you motherfuckers, like, everybody helps each other. This is what the fuck goes on. Because, naturally, you're. Even if you. It don't gotta be a battle rapper. If you call your brother Joe as in my. Joe, like, I heard Joe's shit before he battled Hollow. That don't mean. If somebody. For somebody to say. Did you try to stop it? Huh? That what? No, my bars was fire. No, his bars was crazy. But this is what we. But think about it, though. Go back. Now, go back to that time, Joe. Because we had those conversations. I'm explaining to him about performance. Yo, you gotta say this like this. You gotta. Because I've been there before. He said you coached him on a performance. I coached him on a. You're not about to tell me that I helped Joe Button. So, in the midst of me talking to my community about the difference between writing and helping, me, T-Rock, and Chess, and the other goofy guy are all getting ready for battles at the same time. Mm-hmm. So, we all sparring together. You're not about to. So, who gets the credit for the fight? Mayweather or the nigga that trained him. Who gets the credit for the fight? It's a nice little analogy. Yeah, you thought that through, boy. You thought that shit through. No, we just been 100. Who getting the credit for the fight? So, if, like, I'm that type of friend when it comes to, like, T-Rock, I'll burn down on T-Rock before the battle and be like, hey, yo, what's the first letter to your second round? How do you. What's the last word in your third round? Because I'm that type of nigga with my nigga. I'm gonna call him. So, when they hear certain words, I'm like, like, T-Rock about to battle Ilmac in London on the 24th. Okay. I made a statement. I said, we getting ready for Ilmac because that's the type of friend I am. Yeah. I ain't spoke to Jazz, the rapper, at all. She about to battle, uh, uh, Misfit. Misfit, yeah. But if you was to see me, I'd be like, yo, what's up with Jazz, yo? Ain't shit. We getting ready for Misfit because that's how I carry it. You team, yeah. But the culture know that. So, my biggest problem with the culture was, y'all know what the fuck I'm talking about. Why y'all not, like, advocating for us? It's not about me. That's what made it bad. Right. I'm gonna be honest with you. It's niggas not advocating for us, not me because T-Rock is. I'll tell you, nigga, I said it multiple times. T-Rock is the best battle rapper in the world. He does not need my help. One of the best little niggas in the world. I'm Sue Surf. Imagine me, like, what the fuck? I've been rapping all, like, my whole life. That's. I'm not a good nigga. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not the best nigga in the world. If I don't know how to do nothing else, I know how to rap. So, it was hard for me to get worked up over that. It's like, yo, what y'all about to say? So, when he was in jail, and he had a. one of the best songs out on Mozzy's project, who wrote that? His celly? When he came home from the shoot-in and dropped a 10-minute freestyle for 10 minutes long, who wrote that? Kesha, do you think that people are. Do you think they got this wrong, or do you think they're intentionally trying to mislead the public? Oh, no. It's intentional. It's Sue Surf. It's Sue Surf. Like, think about some. I never hear rich people talking about broke people. Like, you just don't, like. It never goes, like, come. The words never come from the top and go down. It's always the other way. Like, everybody that's talking is all either, Surf, beat your ass, or you're not in the space of where Surf, of, like, you're not in the name area. We haven't had no valid, credible, you know what I mean? Nothing credible. Like, where's the. If you wrote it, it's yours. Where is it? Yo, admittedly, I'm biased. But I don't think y'all could fuck with my son on the beat, off the beat, radio, freestyle, song, chorus, and none of it. I don't. Making an album? Yeah, album, mix, baby. My project was. My project peaked at number one in the country. I'm riding with my man. Eleven in the country regardless of genre. This is what my. Like, don't know battle rapper's music chart? I love my culture. I love the culture, but let's get into a conversation of okay, if you niggas created this, where are the others? Because he's an anomaly. It ain't no. You could take every battle rapper's bars on I-95 and put it together and it still don't got 17 million views. There's no other battle rapper that they say like, like, you know what I mean? Like, so if all y'all doing this, why don't nobody else videos got a million like where's the others i mean my phone my man it just don't make sense to me you know i mean it don't really my man popping it right now you don't put that fucking phone i would take it more serious like i can't do nothing but like troll and entertain it and that's the last thing i'm gonna say about it right it's like i don't like when the outsiders listen to what we're talking about in the culture and it happens but so a lot of outsiders the wrong the the wrong i don't know who it is the grizel the guy whatever shut the room right so that yeah that um so the outsiders they hear that they hear it and then they go and they run with it so now when the culture doesn't speak up for me that's what i say oh y'all fucking weird why is these like like you take a kid like wrong streets or whatever he say oh i didn't know that they rehearsed together that's because you heard a clip and we all mature enough to know that a clip it curates from somewhere else so why not listen in whole full context before you make such a stupid mistake statement because now i pull up your files and realize you can't rap better than me i didn't even know you was the only person i know son i know amani caesar i know all other i know the bennies and the other worlds i didn't know you was you knife on the roster i never heard of you before at all i get 80 000 a battle you don't get 80 000 to do nothing i get 80k a battle yeah my boy popping him on yeah you don't get 80k to do nothing 80 of them things at all it's so for me it's like some of the some of the opinions is not valid and now i don't like for i don't like where it's happening that you know i mean he pop up the other dirty guy that lives in his mom's living room he pop up on somebody on somebody's podcast and he's saying whatever he's saying so now if you're saying it to somebody that knows my texture speak up well i'm gonna have a problem why nobody else laughed at that he did because we meant okay because i mean it's the truth ice was laughing under them glasses now you got ice and i'm looking at your mom instagram live and i see the cat niggas don't got cats i see the cat go by i see the i see the lamp i'm like oh that's his mother living room y'all niggas gotta start doing that real niggas don't have cats worse no real niggas ain't got cats he got a girlfriend too so it's different a white excuse you we've been out the girlfriend again it's a girlfriend for two weeks like shut up nigga yeah i wish y'all gotta start doing that with these niggas these niggas on live talking i wish you could just pop up like they ain't gotta accept just pop up yo flip your screen yo go to the refrigerator right now open the refrigerator like these niggas don't got no food and they like still got no food in the refrigerator i can see off the glare in your eyes that it's nothing behind the can you on live i see that there's no couch why are we talking about surf is okay surf came home i'm gonna tell you the biggest problem of what it is with niggas you watch the and i don't got a problem saying their names it's all love the math hoffers and the the easies and the zips and all that and then what what it is is surf been home for six months surf has done more than you motherfuckers did the whole time he was gone he come home straight to summer jam straight to joe budden straight to hot 97 straight to like it's project chart everything immediately he got all his jewelry plus more and you niggas still got that same chain from when he left i would be pissed off too because this time last year was the rap thing so now that's just going he's not right now he's acceptable now he's not a rap but now he don't write it's gonna always be something and this time next year it'll probably be something else because i'm going constantly keep elevating past the people that's talking about me because mozzie ain't calling me talking about this steve lobell ain't calling me talking about this nobody that write my check call me talking about this shout out to steve hey steve you know i mean nobody we talking about sue surf that's that sat in the studio like that's in the studio with benny mozzie she heard all the niggas that y'all think is the best niggas in the world surf is running with them right now i got 10 minutes of rapping with the joe budden when he was rapping rapping it's surfing joe going back i wrote that in the stoop me and joe and it's me joe and ran in the studio all looking at each other all looking at each other i'm looking at my phone i'm like damn this nigga ran over there i'm looking at joe i know he cream one day because we ain't got too much on these niggas but one day in your life you'll listen to joe budden advice and cherish it as good advice i told this nigga when he came home lead him lead him better rap niggas right where they at but that's a deep conversation or it's deeper than that though this is where i'm from like this is a love of the game it's a lose-lose right if i come home if i come home and i never say nothing about battle rap i just go about my joe budden podcast dropping my tapes and stuff like that now we still here talking about it surf how do you feel about the culture saying fuck you you went industry all right so let's do it rome streets what the fuck are you gonna do see see my point who the fuck is wrong anyway man i'm moving on you popped it on too many no-name niggas for me invite him up here tell him that tell him let's wrap up here nobody's invited up here okay nobody's invited up here and i'm not gonna be too many bitch-ass niggas neither from a battle rapper i let the first one slide i get it heated the moment it ain't gonna be a whole bunch of that not from the broke ones for real though that too yeah not for many of them but not from the broke ones yeah no no that's what that's all i'm gonna say on the matter good luck to all parties out there uh damn i had something i wanted to end with i thought i had something i wanted to end with i don't remember man fuck it we'll get out of here you'll get out of here i'll tell you about jason tatum and jalen brown later i've gotten myself in enough trouble with my takes the last two weeks and jermaine dupree wants me to call him oh yeah forgot about all that shit i said oh jd i ain't going no about my right john taylor's thing like that shit either yeah you're over you bugger attention all ladies the candy man is on the prime and for those that want to get busy you got to speak up now this one this time it's one of a kind blowing your mind like only mona you wasn't born yet is that well yeah you i ain't gonna tell you what i thought that was well yeah you was born you know what i thought that was at first i was what the hell his son was just at my feet number 80 this is 19 this is what you 1990 listen to my heartbeat while and this shit was a smash this shit was big rubbing and tugging you never heard a song with your sexual appetite we'll chill candy man tell him the truth we'll still end up knocking the boots oh boy i love you so never gonna let you go hey once i get my hands on you you remember this you don't you really don't fucking right he's too busy knocking boots too busy living it yeah i mean now i know this mic check one two one two one two hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you keep us to your prayers lord knows we need to be there till the next time hey we bid you adieu farewell adios cerebro dirty hasta la vista au revoir so long goodbye our simple head novels the vice you know we've been together for some time and i've been experiencing some kind of feelings that's changing the range yo remember life is a series of moments and moments past you've been feeling the same way so let's make this one last as if it's all we have it's when you couldn't just holler at the fucking hot r&b artist you had to find any girl to come get in the booth 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daughter what are we doing what are we doing man we're in the house this weekend man taking it easy man sorry i'm sorry i'm happy as shit but i feel old man my daughter's senior night hey all right all right you is old you old nigga what the fuck you talk about that's old i'm older i'm not old but senior night is crazy she sent me a picture of her license her driver's license i said what the hell nigga that's a hit nigga oh yeah nah ain't no hit she on that like when we go on cart like when we go shopping yeah she on that jury man word you can't tell her nothing word fuck you talking parks with you on this weekend i don't know where or what but i'm outside there we go finally some excitement it's fall man mona what you want hey something i'm working though your friend gonna be working with you right he's going back to austin joe yo what you hosting oh he's here for the night what you want to can i come where's that it's a day party you got the headphones on and still won't talk in the 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Come on, bro. I don't do nothing for free. I don't do shit for free, boy. Nothing Whatever I'm doing I guess I'll be driving myself Like a fucking loser. I'm not going anywhere. This is a valet out there. I ain't gonna hold you I ain't going nowhere where I got a little more spot Yeah, I might try to I might try to make a little run tonight I think there's valet out there. So I think I should be good What am I doing? Oh, I'm still buying dad shit. Come on, man. We still looking at carriages and cribs and strollers and everything else My fucking baby mom slash girl slash fiance is still checking the registry. Thank you. If you purchase some shit, we appreciate it What else what else what else what else what else? Oh and Monday. I got a big-time date in Hackensack somebody I know is giving away some free money So that's what I'll be doing, man That's what I'll be doing look all the way perhaps. Yeah Money tree. Hey Paul. I'm sorry. I invite you Monday Monday we back at it free money man free money That's all I got man. Y'all stay safe out there stay dangerous is as well if applicable I hope you all have a good time Remember to pray for the people that are going through silent battles out there. We love you We love you rest in peace to everybody that we lost and For the rest of us, let's have us a time while we are earth man in 2026 with a bang a couple more months couple more months this 2027 vibes 2027 vibes hope you getting ready hope you are preparing don't let it sneak up on you ego Hope you are preparing don't let it sneak up on you ego