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Episode 966 | "Amongst The People"

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Episode 966 | "Amongst The People"

The podcast features a mix of personal storytelling and cultural commentary. Hosts discuss intimate relationship dynamics, such as the importance of nighttime check-ins, emotional neglect, and trust issues, emphasizing that consistent communication and mutual respect are vital for healthy partnerships. They share anecdotes about missed calls, emotional distance, and moments of betrayal, illustrating how small behavioral shifts can signal deeper issues. The conversation expands into broader social themes, including how societal narratives around violence and crime differ by race, with a focus on how environmental factors—like trauma and abuse—shape individuals’ actions. One prominent example is the DC sniper case, where the hosts reflect on how a lack of urgency in detection highlights systemic failures. The discussion also touches on music and legacy, particularly debates over Usher and Chris Brown’s status in R&B, with the hosts acknowledging both artists' influence while emphasizing consistency and impact. Ultimately, the episode blends personal experience with social insight, advocating for empathy, accountability, and understanding in both relationships and societal discourse. While presented as entertainment, the content reflects real emotional and cultural tensions that resonate with listeners.

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, inditing, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at all. We are trained professionals. We do not have your best interests at all, or are all. Enjoy the show. It is way too many of y'all in various hoods that say, "Yo, you're not going to happen to you while you were with me." Yeah, that's not gonna hockey you. And that's just not true. It's just a lie. It's true for three or four people in every hood, I'm sure, but it's way too many people saying, "Yo, you with me, you ain't got nothing to worry about." If you hear that, worry. And a lot of it, appetizer or worry, main dish of worry, worry. It's worry time. Trust me. It happened to me right when I was with them saying that a few times. And then you can't look to them and say, "What happened? What happened?" No, no, I saw on your stream yesterday. Oh, please. I also saw, I apologize. I also saw on social media, "Yeah, wifey on." Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she can. That's a cute moment. What happened to make that happen? Nothing. She just came yesterday. I was filming and she just walked in my stream. Nothing happened. She walked in my stream. I can't stop the stream and tell her to move. She just walked into it. That's what she does. That's her stream too. She was watching me. What's yours as hers? Because one of my, the cameraman that stays at my house, I ended up finding out he was messing with my niece. Huh? Yeah. That's good. I'm just telling you what happened. You're right. So somebody put my name in the comments. Somebody put my name in the comments. T.J. Chiu, mind your business early. I mean, who the fuck called on my real name? But then when she came home, she said, "Mind your business and walked in so I knew it was her." And she just did that. I appreciate her being on the stream. I love her. I love seeing. I love love. It was just beautiful to see. I don't get to see y'all together. Well, I don't like when she's out there like that. I try to hide her. You always talk about keeping them in, you know, restricted spaces. Are we enjoying the same time? Wait. Why? God damn you. No, your wife still looking good. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. She just came from Trinidad. I ain't gonna lie. I wanna share that with y'all. Like, she was in Trinidad. By herself? With her, her friend. She was with her family, my brother-in-law. Uh-oh. And I ain't gonna lie, y'all. Uh-oh. She ain't call me one night. I didn't like that. No! She didn't call me one night. I ain't like that now. She spoke to the kids. Don't speak to the kids. Don't use that. I used to, I do tricks like that. Oh, no, you call me. I had something nice with her because I was an anniversary. I couldn't make it out there. I had a lot of money together. Wait, your wife went to Trinidad for, you know, an anniversary? Let me explain. We was supposed to go together. It's not like a mark story. No, listen. We was supposed to go together because it was the Caribbean awards. And I was supposed to be a part of the Caribbean awards. The scheduling and stuff. And I anniversary, no. There was a bag in Baltimore that I went to go get that a hefty bag. That was good. She understands it. She still, she went to Trinidad and I had something nice set up in the home. Like happy anniversary. I had 18 roses. I had the thing up there. I had them set up the whole house at the house. And the Trinidad in home. Oh. So when she went there, even the stuff on the bed, like, she slid it down. She didn't want to, I said, take that happy anniversary. Happy anniversary should off the bed and sleep. She didn't want to move it. She wanted just to slide it down and lay down. That's some cute weird shit. I don't like that. That's good though. So it was one day she ain't calling me. I ain't like that, Joe. Yeah, see. And then I spoke to her early in the day. But call me at night. Like, well, I'm going to be about to sleep. She's be careful with that, man. Call me at night when you're about to sleep. I don't care if you fall asleep. Make her wake up and call me. Because if I'm away regardless of what I'm doing, I'm calling. I'm sure. If I was telling the story, I just want to say if I was telling the story. No, you could get me. I'm not going to get you. I don't live that life. Me and Freese don't play. - I don't like my wife. - I don't like people don't play. (laughing) - Mark plays. - Mark, you definitely play. - I can't just say it for once. (laughing) - I thought you would've been on my side. - No, me and Freeze don't play. - Remember, Joan Porter, you told my wife, she should go to Carnival by herself. And what did I tell you in front of my wife? - He said, "I don't know." - What else did I say? - I forgot. - Oh, okay, so Mark don't play now. - Yeah, he don't play. - Everybody got their things. - But what I'm saying, you know, my sitting around, what I'm trying to turn it down on her, her anniversary is just one of, no, but listen to him. - No, oh no, guys, we gotta put at a contest. I was supposed to go, oh, context, huh? - Yeah, I didn't go on my flight. - You be cut, I be you. - I didn't go on my flight, but here's the thing. Being around you guys made me feel like you two, especially Oriel, being around Oriel, made me feel like, oh, oh, oh, oh, these niggas, open me a cream bar. - It's your mark. - Yeah. - All right. - You made me feel like you'll have some trust, trust in your family, trust in your wife. - Even though I was itching all day, I didn't get out the bed. I was tired, I'm gonna keep it real. But, and I got my brother, like I niggas watching. I'm just saying that, yeah, I got things in place, but at the same time, I got like this. - You got people watching you, you're watching, you're watching. - And fuck you, you're tripping dead. - Who caught him? - The heart of the cow. - Who put the house, who put the car? - Me, nigga. - All that, don't worry about nothing. However, I felt like she should've called me at a night time. - I ain't going over here. - 'Cause you missed her. - Just because you missed her. - Pause. - I'm sorry, I know. - Remdenz to J.Z. Sousa. And y'all got a ill relationship. I'm jealous. And no, 'cause it's principal. - When Rem goes out in the country. - Yes. - Do you all have that call before? - Face time, like the whole, I wasn't still mad about myself this weekend. We were Face Time with the whole fucking night. - Yeah. - Night. - Okay. - Yeah. - I thought he was throwing me off the truck. - Night. - Night. - No, no. - But does that Face Time, can she respect you? - Yes. - But she misses me. - Yeah, she loves me. - But does that Face Time imply that I'm going to bed after this? - Yeah. - Okay. - Hey, y'all, do you know what she said? Missed him out how my wife reversed it. She said, "If you felt that way, she's out of sleep." - Oh, she said-- - No, no, no, no. She fucked up cause the kids did speak to her. She said, "I was sleeping." - Yeah. - But she said, "If you felt that way, why'd you cut and text me and check on me?" And say, "Yo, I didn't hear from you." - I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. - I'm not doing that. - No, I'm not doing that. - I feel like that. - You know, you know, you know, you know, you know. That's that call, and I'm doing it. I am human. I have feelings. Why are you going to bed without checking in with me? Any time I go away, check in. - Isn't this like a normal couple communication thing? - Yeah. - Right? - This is not like abnormal. - No, okay. - It's regular. - You feel the same way for you? She got to go. - I ain't go a lot. That little call. - She isn't sure today. Me and frees don't do shit like this. That little call before bed, call before bed trick, did used to make it hard tough for the cheat. - It did. - I can see how that would be complicated. - Sometimes you fucking call, go. - Tell 'em how. - Sometimes you call, call for, say you go to bed and actually get tired. You get in that form. - 'Cause you don't know. - You got that form. - Yeah. (laughing) - I know what you're talking about. - Yeah. - You can't even know what I'm saying. - You're gonna say, get in bed by the side. (laughing) - That happened. - Yeah, fuck my call back. - Yeah. - Yo, that's my, oh my god, you know. The call back. - Yo, man. - Nah, that should used to make it hard. - Yo. - Sweats used to be over there. - I ain't doing real. - Yo, you need to try to get drunk. I'll call you back in five minutes in my life. - You got to take the top one like, yeah. - They really call back the five minutes. - You got somebody sitting and fucking pergolic with it. They just sitting by themselves. (laughing) They blowing you up. Where you at? - You gotta say, I'm on the good night call. I gotta do this call, yo. I gotta do it. - Oh, yeah. - I'm glad that the room found that hilarious. It was the nighties, man. - I heard a crazy time. - Yeah, I heard that. - Yeah, man. - Yeah, man. It was crazy the nighties. - That's why. (laughing) - It was the nighties. - It was the nighties. - I heard shit like that was going on. - Oh, for real. - Then, don't have a girl that pick up on some inconsistency in your behavior during the good night call. - Oh my god. (laughing) - My girl with time during the good night call was like, "Yeah, quick question." Like, it was a bitch. She's like, "Why?" - I had a breath. (laughing) - Oh shit. (laughing) - No. - Damn. - It's so crazy. - You couldn't even say, yeah, I'm running around trying to get ready for my date. - I was hard at my shit. (laughing) - You quiet. - I'm gonna take my shit off that. - I have a phone. - Tell him, where it had to change. - Put my pajamas on. - I'm not telling you all from in the bed. (laughing) - Leave you a hang of the phone with me. And then call me back, she called me back. She don't act the same. She let me think I got it off. (laughing) - Oh my god. - Question. Why are you breathing like that? And why are you showering right now? Why did you just get out the shower? - Oh the nighttime shower. - Oh my god. - That's a smoking gun. - Yeah. - You can't share. Sometimes you need a shower at night. - They know you're having a good sleep. - All right, look, hold on. Showering at night gives you a good night's sleep. - I know. - So do Magnetio. - So do Magnetio. - So do Magnetio. - So do Magnetio. (all laughing) - Yo! - I feel like I should interrupt just to tell everybody out there that we are faithful men reminiscing on the time. - I know, I know. - I know. - I know, I know. - I know, I know. - I know, I know. - I know, I know. - Those 90s. - Those 90s. - Now about 'em. - Now about 'em, man. - How about 'em, man? - 90s. Anyway, good to see you all, y'all. - Have a good time. - Have a good time. - Have a good time. - Have a happy anniversary again. - Thank you very much. - Have a happy anniversary. - I'm sorry, this celebration, man. - Thanks again. - Sure was, great time was had. - Yeah. - Well? Baltimore. Be more careful. I mean, you know, you got your money. Man, money's the point. Money is paying the bills. No doubt. You know what I mean? That's all the things that have changed in my life, but we don't want to get it. I don't want to send that around me. You know what I'm saying? Well, I'd love to hear the changes later. Not right now, no. But later, I'd like to hear about the old change in your life. Yeah, it's not to do it with you. So I don't feel like that. With me? I don't feel like throwing it. Yeah, that's good. I'm under the bus. No, no, no, no, you good. Okay, celebrate me. [Music] [Music] [Music] Always for the ladies, always for the ladies. Shout to wherever you might be listening from yours. [Music] [Music] Big jersey, big New York City, Philadelphia, all that don't try to stay Connecticut without out there. [Music] You know what I mean? It's my vibe when you get the change in the temperature in the house, man. It's my vibe when the weather changed. I had some of fucking Italian meatballs soup yesterday from Whole Foods, Megan. This is when you got to walk by the soup and whole foods, he was going on. [Music] Pasta visual. [Music] [Music] [Music] Shout to hate listeners. [Music] [Music] Shout to the happy couples out there, all the merry people out there. All the engaged people out there. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Yes, there! [Music] [Music] Yeah me ain't go boy you a glass of wine or something whatever your vice is. Go ahead roll some up you broken niggas go ahead to the ATM man. Today's gonna require a bill. You're gonna need a 20 on you at some point. You ain't go boy you ain't go boy you make the bill. It's love sometimes come in my bed and turn off the night. Hope you stay standing with us. You're the best person in my life. Makes me a mind. Always such a man that's me. Don't you know I'm in a mood you're bad. I love the way you scream my name. Then all the minute gives me what I want. I actually feel this way. We got a great show lined up for y'all. Let's get right to the proceedings. I know for that. What episode is this? Not a 66. Welcome to episode nine hundred and sixty six of the Joe button podcast brought to you by a few by power by price. Peace price is gang you. I'm your humble gracious grateful. Extremely happy to be a live host Joe button. Here was some really amazing people to my right. Bang Queens get the money. You know what time it is Queens flip in the building. Flip you good. I'm good man. Let's get to work next to him. Philadelphia's finest new book coming out. Make sure you cop that pre-orders available now are good brother. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, how are you? Good man. Sick but I'm good. You don't always sick. Kids man. He be sick. Three of your kids is twenty seven. He done lots of fucking kids said one straggler to keep fucking you. What's going on with your hoodie? You want us playing the tour today? Employee of the month. I didn't even read it. I just grabbed it off to. It was cold outside. I had a different thing and I just grabbed it. Yo, did the money go to DC with the part of the month chain on? Probably. I think I saw it on him. I think I saw it on him in one of the pictures. Are you in DC too? Yo, together or no Saturday night. Well, let me introduce them. Listen. Our good brother, Mr. Thousand Doors and up King Wawa DC, Virginia. What's the what's the call out there? The Sunbelt area, right? What's the name of that little pass? Easy pass. Oh man. I didn't take the trip in a while. Anyway, our good brother Antoine issues here. Man, it's how you doing. Good. You're good to see you. Thank you, sir. You too. How was DC? You had a good time. So, Bernie's birthday. I'm really cool. So I'm working. But I saw E&M Saturday night. Did they stop on the site? No. Right. No. Help you. I saw E E Rachel, pardon me. E Rachel and that one Saturday. We tried to move around a little bit. DC was, it was a madhouse. It was total mayhem. The CBC was down there. Broccoli Fest was down there. The PVO. It was down there. It was just crazy. But that was seem like moving around will be easier. No. No. Well, everything's probably booked up. Everything was packed. DC had dress codes. Because again, it's the CBC. So, you know what I mean? Niggas was suited and booted. It was fire. DC was on fire. We all went to go get something to eat and then took it there. You do much. We tried to go to some shit. But again, the dress codes kind of prevented it. I was just there. Yeah, no, what I hate, no, what I hate about me seriously. Like that should have been the end of the exchange. No, seriously, I don't like that about me. We asked him something. He answered. That should be the end. But I be hearing other things than what he said. You heard something before I answered the question. No, you heard something when the question got asked that not true. I wasn't even going to ask you. I think your business is your business. I don't do it. But they throw the ask you about there. And then you get the money. That's why I think of it. You know, he's going to pass you. I just mark you the bed. All right. So what's Dale shit? What's Dale shit? I'm a positive positive. I ain't come. I got down a late one side of it. Dio, I'm saying Dale, my bad. I ain't go. Nice. Did you get in the broccoli best? I didn't go. So you went to Denny's. No, I went to work. Yeah. Nice on. Did you work on it? Everything you need? Yeah, mad progress. Mad progress. That's what I'm supporting. Yeah, I want to work. I wasn't going down there for no social shit. What's your name? Listen, Mr. Take it further himself. Big frees is in the building. I saw you doing it. I'm good. I'm glad to be here. Good. Absolutely love that. Elmira's finest parts is here. What's popping? Po is here. His woman's man. Corey. Eric's gonna see it save on antenna here by remote last but certainly not least each and every one of you people out there are here Minus the 17 people that have left since the last week Loved it love to all love to all and everyone remember the two pockets of donor body else care What are you guys most passionate about for me is lioness? Lioness season finale if you have not seen it. Sorry leave you should have skipped the button Y'all know we was waiting for it. This was almost like This was almost close to being one of those finales where we watch as a family. Yeah, yeah, I almost sent a few of those those tweets out Hey, are we doing this? I didn't watch it. I couldn't watch it till I came home. I watch that shit early. Yeah, but when you got home last night Oh, so you ain't see it. That's hot. Oh, okay. No as soon as I walked in the door like my girl was like your lioness I'm like yeah thoughts thoughts on the lioness season finale body. I like the spin. I love the spin. I can't believe that I didn't see this Coming right here. Come in. I did though. However at the end of season one at the end of season one. I said yo She's coming back like she was such a good character the girl She was like she was personable. She she you know, I mean I said yo. She's coming back. She wasn't gonna just take that land Like she's coming back. So I was I was shocked at the spin I thought it was gonna be the husband or somebody closer to them. Yeah, that was the mole or that was on some bullshit They still got a mole. They still got a mole. I don't know if they got a mole. Yeah, they do. Yes, why? Because they do said it No, I think that he was referring to They have a mole being the Ukrainian girl. No, the Russian do told his man before he shot them. I know they got a mole I know I think that he was saying that they have a mole on on the Russian side the mole being the girl that they killed I don't see that's how I took it. That don't really make sense. I'm watching that over because I took it as Yeah, the US side has a mole and what you'm gonna call it said it to Morgan Freeman Said yo after this is over we got to find our mole Okay, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Listen the story like the way the story line is playing out it looks like there's a mole Mm-hmm. It looks like that and by what they revealed at the end with Who it was sure again spoiler alert surety from season one. Yeah, then Well, now I think it's cruise And why wouldn't it be cruise and she said yeah, we're gonna use Joe We're gonna Lord. We're gonna use Joe get them all here and then just hit them all up See I think it would have to be cruise I'm so conflicted. I would take it's the girl that's the daughter the other girl It's the daughter that flies the hell I would think it would be the helicopter They're more than cruise and they spin and cruise the same way cruise spawn shorty Because that girl was falling in love with cruise in series one. Yeah, so I would think that it would be the helicopter girl That's spinning cruise, but that girl like yo, you got close to me my nigga like I let you into me I start falling in love with you and you just did that. I'm gonna pay you back I'm so conflicted in this. I'm so conflicted with the season finale for a few reasons right like oh my god How do I say this without sounding crass? I like Linus and Joe because she's such an alpha bitch She just is going to do whatever need to be done. She's married to the job the gig is the gig and that's the mentality That's the mentality. That's that's the mentality. You got to have sometimes and that's to meet that to me is and has always been relatable this episode I Think I'm conflict. I'm told I'm told I've totally flipped this season This episode for me when they killed the Russians and she got back and was like yo We killed all of those people for no reason that wasn't the old Joe the old Joe would have been like yo Whatever now her family. I think the family dynamic is weighing on and I just that yo my nigga. I just got kidnapped I could have never seen my kids again. If we would have got we fucked a toe and we would have gotten a plane I would have never seen my kids again, and I think that shit is starting to weigh on her on another level Do you understand do you think she cuz like Nicole Kim is said she's forcing her to a desk job Yes, do you think do you think she's going to take it? I don't I don't think she I don't think she can I don't know I don't think she can but but that's the but that's the dope part about it She's really fighting the internal battle versus the job or my family She can't have both and we seen that at the end of the episode when she went home and the closets was empty and the drawers were empty And then they go left a note about time. I'm out of here like yo dog. You we call a husband a dick I mean I dick We call him pussy, but at some point even a husband got to put their kids and they kids well being before my wife's job You know, I'm calling the husband a dick for the old season because he's a bitch Uh-huh, and because you stayed if you stay and you know your wife's gay Natalie left I'm on his side. I'm on his side. Everybody's on his side. I'm on his side and Joe just seemed like a hormonal PTSD having traumatized Also completely at the whim of the US government. Listen. No, and she's made it for a minute Please let me make my point about Joe. I'm hot on this Joe You got your work husband jammed up. I think that's fucked up Yeah, you got cow jammed up he ain't naked and barked on he about to get suspended now you go after you got him jammed up Oh, then there's that Next season. Yes, now Africa's involved. You don't kill the innocent African lady and all of her security Because you emotional and what revenge and you are spiteful. Hey go in there and get them now engage Come on come on then your bitch has husband who stayed the whole time the cold kidman came to the door said yo She's coming home. She's coming home. He said you she's coming home. Then you get home and don't go home No, not just that you pull up and front of that house and he saw the truck. He saw the truck That's it. I'm with him 100%. Yes. We're selling the house fuck that. I'm honest. Yes. We're taking the kids Sorry, Joe. What else Joe? Did Joe did a bunch of shit? She just was more emotional than average like even when she said engaged That was an emotional decision. I was in a rational decision The rational thing is you let the ball head nigga come out the restaurant You lock him up and then you milk him for information. Yeah She didn't do that. She said engage with let's hope fucking bloodbath You get them saying like that's not the normal Joe that we know and I think that's dope I think they put in a spin on the main character between her emotional decisions and her logic I think it's dope and like you said, bro. I mean her being kidnapped in torture. She ain't never she's been company first Yes, her whole career. She ain't never been kidnapped in torture even like that that they made that shit That that's switch something inside of her Her conversation with the Russian dude on the plane. Uh-huh. What's fire to me? It was it was like a mental chess game Like he's like, yo, dog you going about this all wrong. I fuck with you But be clear if I see you and you playing again, yo, ass is dead like yo, you want to try? Yo, yo, that shit was fired My name is she she tried to not to put nothing in my enemies. Mm-hmm. That shit was dope to me y'all killed the double agent girl that helped y'all all season She didn't do nothing wrong. She dead in a river somewhere. It's fucked up and Joe took it personally Where's any other time Joe would have been like yo, we couldn't trust her It was too much loose ends get rid of loose ends. She took that personally like yo dog y'all did what? Then y'all throw all these wild-ass concepts out there all season long got me thinking it's Russia You and all of this shit. I'm thinking y'all hide on the trail I even thought y'all set up to keep napping yourselves for y'all to not be able to get nowhere without the random guy in guantanamo Bay that says hey a black girl Irish last name. Yeah, they were shopping you around dog Yo, y'all needed him to crack crack some of y'all a bum's got a bomb Episode eight now we got some random guy a bring him in here to get the fuck out of here. I ain't like that part I I didn't like that part that shit with the fact that homeboys just in this cage laying on the ground sees you coming to get mo And gives you all this wealth of information. I think they should have rewrote that better And then by the time they showed me the girl that then now I have a heart and I'm compassionate because yeah There's lady lost her fiance. There's lady lost her fucking dad heard family and all of this shit Yeah, I'm spinning on y'all and y'all maybe think I fell in love with somebody who was a op the whole time Yeah, no, I'm spinning on y'all. I'm spinning on y'all you see the windows in that fucking house. Yeah Right you're right that they look for it. It ain't for you. Whatever. That is Yo, then windows that fucking bathtub all of that shit was fire and she got all the money in the world I'm an exact revenge like you wouldn't believe lioness was great Sorry if we spoil it if anybody, but really good season. Yeah, a thousand really good season great job job well done Taylor. Oh, they got picked I want to catch up I'll catch up and watch the next season. They'll be another one in two years. Although he is He's leaving paramount. So I'm curious to see how this last season is gonna go No, he's he's it NBC - I'm busy, I'm like, I'm $1 million. - So hopefully he gets to write the last season line of this. I'll be tight if they pass that shit off. - And then let the last one be the last one. - Yeah, yeah. - Let the next season be the last season, four seasons, job well done, in and out some phenomenal television like Ozark was. - And what you'm gonna call us back right in time? The English shit we like? - Oh, Moblin. - Moblin. - I ain't see it though. - I'm letting the beat build. - Yeah, I ain't see it. - I'm now watching Moblin. - I watch it. - And my feelings are the MC season one. - I've been watching season one all the time. - It's gonna go like Moblin. - Yes. - That's what I'm in the crib doing, fucking watching, catching her up on old seasons of the shows that we supposed to be watching. - Yeah. - Mmm, Moblin. - Moblin, it's no. And again, I wanna give a shout out to Semba and them. They doing a masterful job over there on the drop. - Oh, they had to drop his stuff. - Drop his stuff. - What a silly story, yo. - I need to catch up. - Yeah, I'm telling you. - So a couple episodes. - It's only a couple episodes. I know how we feel sometimes about a little bit of urban shit, but not as well written. - It's really well written. - I ain't saying nothing bad about the drop. You know what my people work over there? - I know. - If it's bad, I ain't saying nothing bad. - No, it's good though. - I know, but that's the point. - But it's good. - I wouldn't say nothing about it. - It deserves to talk. - Like it's good. - It's good. - Are you going this thing? - I'm gonna skip school, but it started off very good. - Yeah, yeah. - I didn't know what to expect. Even when I heard this story, I'm like, "Ah, can they make this interesting?" - Right. - But, yes. - They can't in a great job so far. Are y'all watching on Lanners? - No. - No. - No, I haven't. - But I've heard it's good. - It's really good. - Y'all watch so much TV. - I don't know where you're at. - I'm so impressed. I need to catch up. 'Cause everything y'all talk about sounds. - You got to get a TV mark. - You don't have TV's in your house. - Just books. - You said you read five books a week? - Yeah. - You can't read five books a week. - But when I do watch TV, because there's a window at time where I watch TV and I end up watching the same shows over and over again. Like I keep rerunnin' to see it, the office, every day. - All the time. - Yeah, yeah. It's like a Scott boy. - And then I'm tryin' to, you know, Joe's talking about catching this. Fiancé up. I've done that before I catch my wife up on the show. Like, rewatch it with her. And then after you get through all of it, she decided she don't wanna watch it. - Is that if I happen to y'all? - Yes. - I like that. - That's when (beep) - Yep. (beep) - Don't read it. - Yo, now I love that. 'Cause they're not gonna watch and shit about myself. - Yeah, but if I said they could be two in the morning and my girl sleepin' I could watch all of that shit uninterruptedly. - But see, I could did that from the start. I started, I mean, years ago, it was like better called salt and I was on a season like three. And I was like, you gotta watch this. 'Cause you love breaking bad. Let's go back and watch it. - I said, you know how slow that show is. - Yeah, it is very slow. - I went back and watch the season one and two again with her and then right in the middle of season two, she was like, yeah, I don't think this is for me. - I love it. - See, if I was in charge of the men's meeting, that would be another one that I would write down. Putting your wife or your partner on to some fly shit, it's overrated. - Overrated. - It's overrated. Keep it to yourself. There's some cool shit you do when you're with them. You're just lookin' to get hurt. - You're lookin' to get hurt. - Broke my heart, I love shit, you think this is for me. - If y'all into the same shit, that works, bro. 'Cause I've put, I've put Mr. P's onto a lot of shows and we fuck with 'em. Like, if she's into one type of show and you into a different one, you try to put on, it ain't gonna work really. - Yeah, me and my girl don't like the new game of thrones and nothing. - Oh yeah. - Good. - So, I be, you can go. - You know what I'm saying? My girl really don't fuck with it. - They try. Like, so the show's that my girl don't watch. It's good for me, I can watch them shit on the lake. - Yeah, I'm good watching shit so little. - But there are a few things I like to enjoy with her. It depends on the kind of show. Like, we watch sex. (laughs) - What, dinner? (laughs) Dinner for sure. - What a murder. (laughs) - My girl loves some murder mysteries, man. - We're watching the Lizzie Borden, too, which is, it started off like, it's almost like cures the first couple of episodes. I mean, it's not, but it is. It's a horror. - Just a small kill of shit. - Yeah, it's monster. - It's monster on Netflix. They did the Meninda's brother. - I remember. - The Dahmer's story. - They did a game and that. - They all said, they're really, really well done. - Well, Dahmer and Meninda's were done extremely well. Aide Geen took a turn for the worst that he was watching. - It was hard. It was absolutely hard. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - It took a turn for the worst because of the gore - No, no, no, no. - The story, the story. The story, how they decided to tell the Aide Geen story wasn't like the Dahmer and Meninda's shit at all, but they're back now with the Lizzie Borden story. - Okay. - And she's the girl who killed her parents with X, and it opens like that. It's a good show. - Yes. - This is a good show. This is a good show. I like it because it's a comedy. - It's kind of a comedy. It's kind of comedic. - Like, the first scene she kills her parents with X, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, the Mad Times. - 30 times. - That sounds funny. - 30 times, flashing with X. And as a viewer, you're like, oh my God, how could you do that? The very next, the rest of the episode and the next episode, they show you how she was getting abused by parents. - Yeah. - Ah, but in a fictional story way, abusive parents are hilarious. You're not wrong. We shouldn't laugh at it, but abusive parents, it makes for some of the best television, they make it almost comedic, guys. Like, if you haven't seen it, so you're not understanding. But they make it like, it's like comic book. The mom, the mom through soup. Then she threw soup on a bitch. The maid brushed some old school sleigh. And she said, what the fuck? (laughing) That's funny. The girl Lizzy Borden, she's in love with animals. So she got a room just full of doves that she takes calves. The doves, the mom, they go in there with an accent and just chopped all the doves heads off. - What? - Just killed all the doves. - I got a question for you, Joe. - What's up, Breeze? - How come? - And I'm not shooting at you. Let me be clear. - Oh, it's a shot. - It's not a shot. - I know how y'all get. - Hey, somebody even grabbed me that bulletproof vest. - How come when it's these crazy white motherfuckers doing some murderous shit? You love to watch, to figure out the why. But when we talk about some of these younger niggas doing the murderous shit, like darkening them. And we try to get into maybe the why or why they end up that way. It's met with such resistance. What I own respected, like what is the why? We don't know the why. That's the thing. Just to ask the why is where the problem comes. When we start trying to figure out the why or how they ended up this way, or it's, you only be wanting to hit that shit. Like 95% of the time, it's an environmental conversation. - That's black. - Or what, both. - I'm not saying blacks or white, but when it's like the kids, like an example, he's talking about with the young black drill rappers. That'd be an environmental thing. They don't never, if they was getting their ass beat or molested or something like that, it never comes out. That's what was going on. I think that the white people are just more compelling with how they end up in that spot. It don't just be you shot my cousin, you shot my nephew, we spinning and we getting back. That's, hey, y'all got that, y'all got that. Shit like this? Super compelling to me. Psychological. What are you making that, Frees? - That's his answer. - And they can say, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, that's what he ends up so. It's cool. - Look out. - That's his answer. - Like, do we have a drummer? Yeah, preacher, no, no, no, no, no. Preacher wasn't done. - No, he wasn't, no, he wasn't done. - We don't got a drummer. We got some instruments. I think I like shot out of Muhammad, he's an interesting one. DC sniper. - Oh. - Oh, he's one of my favorites. - Yeah, Joe, I go. - He's one of my, all of it sounds sick, but that's one of my favorites. - No, he's a super interesting story. And with the kid too? - Yeah. - Okay, what? - With a hole in the trunk? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Sleeping at the gas, now we talking. - And your list out of the thing. - I remember crying. - What's my man? And my man, what's my man? I always bring up the uniformer dude. That's the dude that was living in the woods. Somewhere. - Yeah. - Different level of commitment. - Interesting. - Yeah, the DC bombing, she was bugged out. - Yeah. - He might be our best. - He had niggas dance. - It's like a serial killer. - It was serial killer. - He was the one. - The DC sniper. - That shit was crazy. - He had niggas dead, and I was a kid, niggas, niggas, niggas, niggas. - Yeah, it was a gas, yeah. - He had to go to Virginia for the game, but I don't want dance in my set. - That shit. - I didn't really do that. - Shit. - Niggas was dancing by the pump. - Oh my god. - Oh my god. - What the fuck? You better drop it with your family, see it? Somebody just move. - That thing had niggas scared. - That was a good time for the comedies too. - Yeah. - Who comedy bit some of that? - That's for me, sir. - Yeah. - Just for that. Yo, yo, come on. - This is horrible. - This is horrible, man. - Imagine driving a hole. He got these niggas scared like that. Imagine somebody pumping gas. And at the time, niggas was putting the little gas. - They were running, man. - And New Jersey, they come pump the gas for it. They wasn't even coming to pump the gas. - They were? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Oh, man. - Yeah. - And know why that one is so interesting to me, too. He wouldn't have got, they wouldn't have caught him at all if he wasn't sleepy. - Mm-hmm. - They was nowhere near catching him. - He wouldn't even look at full black person. - I don't even remember how he caught him. - Yeah, I forgot. - He fell asleep at the joint, right? - He fell asleep, he fell asleep, took a long nap, him and his pro to Jay. - They gotta do a show of that. Like a reenactment shit. - Wait, but they had no no joke. 'Cause they found the color, they found, they were able to describe the vehicle. - They found the, that's what I'm saying. - He was in a station wagon or something shit. - No, he was like an old school shit with the hole in the bag. - Yeah. - They described the vehicle, so he would have got caught. He would have got caught. - That's what I think happened. - They knew what vehicle he was in. Or similar. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's how holy the truck, holy truck. - Yeah, I believe we lived through something this shit. - It was shit. - Well, you think about that when you live with COVID. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm sad. When you said, "Are you with us?" You said there were COVID. you with outside to the, I think you said you went somewhere. I don't know, you would tell them to joke about after COVID. You went to go shopping and you said the streets was clear. There was a lot of people that was down with that, son. - We used to record that part in Queens then. - Bro, we would get to his house in two seconds. The whole man hat and lunchtime is empty, bro. - Y'all was recording during COVID? - Yeah, yeah. - Nothing comes before the game, bro. - I never heard of it before. - What? - Are you talking about it? - Did it practice feet? - We record fanings. - We gonna record during the next go. (laughter) - And most of them on the show. - Just in case you think it's, I think over there spinning. I think over to be back. - No, I think they gonna bring them something. - They gotta be something new. - It's gonna be something new. - They got some new shit coming. - They're trying to nail. - They saying we getting the blackout. - No, please, no. - Oh my god. - What's the blackout? - That will make a heart to record. - No, they saying we gonna get a big, big blackout. - That's what they saying. I didn't make it up. - It wasn't on my news feed. I didn't say it everywhere. - I believe you guys didn't see it. Did they say why? - Some trickery shit. - Y'all haven't heard this? I'm not gonna make it up. (laughter) - Blackout. - You can be late. - No. - Nick's been shot during the blackout. (laughter) - Look up with the blackout. - Look up with the blackout. Look up with the blackout. - They're gonna blackout. - You see what I mean yet? - I like it. - Yeah. - Why don't you? - Why don't you? - What wouldn't you? - Then strike me as like an off-set record. - And on the late night. - Oh! - Like an off-set record. - That's insane, yeah. - It's crazy. - I'm like an off-set record to be. - Yeah, just don't sound to me like a typical off-set record. It sound like when an artist is making like a bold statement. It's like snoop sexual seduction. It's like when an artist went and got with a writer. And now we go out. - I don't think it's that interesting. - I just sound like, to me, it just sound like you use auto tone for the verse. Usually you'll do it on a hook and actually wrap the verse. That's only different. - This sound like off-set record. - I used to my off-set in a particular pocket maybe, but this record is hard to me. - I like this sound record. - This sound record. - That's cool. - It don't sound too far off from him though. - It just came out Friday, but I really see much about it. - Well, I've been saying a lot of the quavo, for real stuff. I've been saying news of Meezov, new Meegoz project. So it might just not be enough attention on off-set. - Bad time in Vegas. - Yeah, but this record is crazy. - Yeah, it's dope. - I need to hear it out. I need to hear it out. - Oh, you can't hear it out. - I need to go out. - No. - No. - I thought you were talking about it. - I'm worried about you, boy. You trying to get it out the house so bad? You going up there? - You trying to get it out the house so bad? - You going up there? You going up there? - You trying to get it out the house? - I'm not playing the game with you. - I can get it out the house. - Why did you go address like that? - That's what my leg was burned. It was hot in there. It's a real activity. We going to really bowl. - Got us. Do you take it? - We're not going to be cute. It's not a bunch of bitches at the fucking bowling alley today. It's couples. It's Lil Philippine. Philippines. It's fucking. It's some shot through a Philippines. - Yeah. - It's out to the Philippines. I'm saying. - That's who in there? - What was the outcome? - I know. I'm telling you. - He's up a game. Three games or two. He's up a game. $1,000. - I know. - That bacon cheeseburger in the bowling alley is one of the best I had in the world. - Bowling alley food. - It's good. - It's terrible for you. - I'm going to say. - Even pork from the bowling alley is a choice, man. - That's crazy. - I'm telling you. - I'm telling you it's good. - Bacon is probably one of the safer things. You can eat the bowl in alley to be honest with you. I don't eat pork. But. - I just admit that I wouldn't be trusting that it's refrigerated or like. - They got it. - They got it back in there. - I've worked at Bowling alley. We didn't work. - What bowling alley for Muslims, nigga? Y'all didn't have none of that shit. Y'all don't eat pork. - Come on, Mark. - We had food, though. And I was saying we didn't refrigerate it. - That's what I was saying. - 'Cause I didn't believe in it. - He built the bowling alley. - He could have called. - You know, that was a skating rink. - I'm sure. - You guys put the food in the backyard. - No, he's working at Bowling alley in Philly, regular bowling alley. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We said what kind of food. He just was nasty. - No, Bowling alley food. Be good, y'all. - Hey, what point of your life you working at Bowling alley? - Oh, okay. - What was your job? - Shoes. - Stacking pins. - Shoes. - Shoes. - Shoes is rough. - Yeah. - Anyway, do y'all care about Usher putting the crown on his head, saying it. He's the king army. - I love it. - I thought that was a big thing. - I don't know why it's the big thing. He's been doing it. - So when Chris Brown put it on his IG and showed the image with the king joint. - Oh, okay. - To me, that was like the love of it. That's what made it dope when Chris Brown affirmed it. He is the king army. - I mean, yeah, he's the king army. - He locked up. - He is not the king army. - Right, he's a reigning king. - No, he's not. - The reigning king is still alive. - Yo, what army? - He locked up. - You just can't say his name. - Can he reach the crown? - He locked up. - He got a different crown. - He's the brother. - He's the brother. - He's the real. - I'm not counting him 'cause he locked up. - You got a count of six. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - He's still alive. - You can't fuck with him but you ain't gonna say that. - You're going to say you put a crown and you can't go and say you put a crown on that I'm the king. - That's not true. - That's not true at all. - I totally disagree with that. - You never fuck with him 'cause he locked up for it. - That's a different issue. - Okay. - I don't fuck with him 'cause of that. - What I'm saying is, so you don't think he's the king? - I'm saying if we just talk of music. - Yeah. - We can say it's different. - We can say it's really new conversation that happened. - If we talk of music, our telly is the king. - It's the king. - But what I'm saying is, if I'm Usher and I'm out here performing and I'm on stage and I'm doing my thing and this other dude is in jail and after all this ain't playing his music no more because he's of what he did. Yeah, I think it's not crazy to call himself king. - Let me ask you this. - Have you Usher and you just went on this tour with this young boy that is going crazy and the crowd is honestly preferring this young boy over you then what does that say to your kingdom? - You couldn't even get to the stadiums if it weren't for this young boy. - What does that say to your kingdom? - I don't think. - The real truth is Chris Brown is just being very modest. - Modest. - And really showing him a whole bunch of respect. - He could pop his shit if he wanted to. - Collar shit, Matt. - Bro, come on. - I'm not sure what we disagree at all. - Yeah, I don't know. - Yeah, y'all introduced Chris Brown. I don't know how we got to Chris Brown. - Huh? - I didn't hate you. - I'm going to the Usher's not the King shit. - Okay, so I think I wanna have the debate that Marcus trying to have, which is if you can touch a crown and I'm in jail and can't touch a crown, then my resume goes away. - No, I don't think your resume goes away. It's part of it is the why. - Half the money, listen to that shit no more. - Ah, that's not true. - No, he's been canceled by lots of people. - That's your mark. - There's a lot of pieces of the book. - That's not true. - Half the world, I don't think that number's that high. - Okay, forget I said half, so we don't get dwell upon the word, but what I'm saying is, there's a lot of people that I like. - There's big chunks of people who ignore him. There are lists that don't put them on. - Correct. - So I think that that's a factor in somebody standing up who's on this side of the wall, who's doing concerts. People say, I am the King of R&B. I think I'm okay with that. - I'm gonna take you right, if we talk about the King of having a good soul and a good spirit, like the King of Humanity, what we just talked about, R&B. - It'll be chaos. - And for me, it's different, right? For me is all of the musicians in concert, no matter where homeboy is, they acknowledge him and his catalog as the greatest of modern time. We've talked about Stevie and Mike and none of that, but yeah, all of them from the tank, everybody does recognize that. That's not speaking out, we feel about the heinous things that he did, but his music catalog is bar none. - I agree. - And Usher knows that. You know, this is like, and I love Usher, and I think he has the right to put that crown into it. But this is like when it's too tough dudes in the hood, but one is clearly tougher, and he's the one that ends up going to jail. - It's my hood now. - Yeah, nah. - See that, that's the point of view. - The other guy's like, yo, this is my hood now, he's breathing easy, he's going to restaurants, you maybe wouldn't have went to, and he's like, yeah, I don't know it, but no. - Look at that, look at that. - Look at that. - Where's the other boy come from? 'Cause if you got life, it's my hood now. - True. - That's what I'm saying. There's a way that Arkelli regardless of what his actual sentence is, got life. - And there's a lot of people that'll say, well, if you felt this was your hood, why you wouldn't feel like this your hood when he was walking around on it, you had to wait for him to sit down to now feel like it's your hood. - And you know what? - Yes. - You know. - Nah, that's cool, I didn't roll them. - It might be, you know why it's corny, 'cause when you put that crown on your head, everybody thinks he's Arkelli. That's why, it's not like, I don't, but I get your point. - Bro, you know what you know where I think he could have some kind of a fight. - He was the first one to say it. - You know where I think he could have some kind of a fight or some kind of, that's why Usher could have some kind of argument. If he had current music, that was even good. - I don't think you need that. - Yes you do. - I think you do. - Bro, you just try to say it now. - No, I'm out last year. - Say it again. - He put out my last year. - Uh-huh. - Name two songs off. - No, I don't think the music, I'm not arguing that the music was good. I'm saying that when you have an elite catalog, you can put out new music that's not that. And it's okay. - But now you should, the last, Arkelli music was terrible. - But my point is now we going, now we go. - We go in a closet part 763. - That was a lot. - No, no, no, no, no. - When a woman loved was good too. - I don't know, I don't listen to his catalog. - I'm just saying, no, that was one of his latest songs, before he had a song called When a Woman Loved. That was a good one. - You went to Trapped in the Cloth. I'm talking about that little shitty drop from jail. - That was eye-mending. - Oh, that day of rapes. - That day of rapes. - We was listening to life. - He still got it. (laughing) - There's no doubt that do this town. - I am in-- - There's no, oh, that eye-mending. - But now we go in, because my point is now we go in my classic catalog versus your classic catalog, and you don't have a fight there. - Right, and again, if he's home and he's not erased, and when he's not moved from lists and all that shit, I'm not engaging in that fight with you. I would agree with you. - Man, listen to politics. - But I'm saying it is what it is. - It is what it is. - Why should it be? - Listen, it's our politics. - Yo, you had a catalog, I had a catalog. You still home making music. Your new music can't sneeze at my old music. - Or his own new music can't sneeze at your old music. - Yeah, that's why I'm not worried about usher's new music. I'm with you. I'm taking prime, I'm taking his prime. I'm saying that's what I'm basing his kingdom on. - Let me further this. - His prime, who he was at his best. - He's my son. - Okay, just 'cause I just go turn to a straw man. I'm not arguing that his prime is better than our Kelly's prime. I'm not saying that. I'm saying because of our Kelly's predicament, it's okay to call you the king. That's all I'm saying. - Okay, since we got our Kelly, whatever. Who would be the one to opt in? - Well, and you on tour, right? So yeah, I'm with you. - Yeah, who's my tour? I'm put with the book. - It's not your tour. - It's the game of stuff. - Yeah, it's our tour. - It's not? - All right, you right, you right. - You right, you right. - It's the tour. I mean, I get what you said about who the fans are there for. - It's not who the fans are there for. Man, this is Chris Brown's been doing it. This is Chris Brown's shit. Yo, come on, I should let's go on tour. - Well, that's what that was. - That's the case and that reinforces the point of why the fans are more cheering for Chris Brown, then, right? - Yeah, what you mean? - The reinforces is why you're not the current king. - 'Cause the king could do that. The king, I don't need you to take me on tour. The king can do this by itself. - I just, I just. - The king. (laughing) - You got a young nigga that's walking around the hood, knocking everybody out, but he respect you. He know he can beat your ass, but he gon' respect you and say, yo, you got it, big dog. - I always appreciate that guy. - That's what's happening. - 'Cause look, the king just did this last year without you, without you. - Yeah. - Go in, so free. - Go in. - When you were Aaron. - You just said. - How? - He just did a stadium tour by himself. - Why don't you explain it to me a little more. - Excuse me? - Explain to me a little more, I just don't understand. - I'm at this agreement, I'm just trying to find out. - He's been Chris Brown to the stadium tour. - Chris Brown went on tour last year without usher. - Stay stadiums. - Oh, you're saying Chris Brown is the king and not usher. Are you putting Chris Brown as the king instead of Arkelli? - No. - Nobody's the king instead of Arkelli. - So if Chris Brown puts the crown on his head, you're okay, you're not okay with it. - No, no, I'm just saying out of them, too. You are okay with it. - I am okay with it. - Tell me why. - Let's just cut this. - No, because he's had a 20-some-a-year of. - Oh, that's okay. - I'm okay with it. - It's not a trap. I'm trying to get to it. - I'm saying that Chris Brown has had a 25, 20-something-year career of consistency moving forward. Usher has two or three albums. I'm gonna say two on a pop that are fire. - Four to fire, classic. - Classic. - And since that, would you agree that Chris Brown doesn't have any album that reaches Usher's level? - Yes. - Yes. - He doesn't. - To me, that's also a factor for me. - So I'm gonna ask you a question, mom. I'm gonna ask you a question. - But so consistency, if you have a matter, I'm saying-- - If you have a 40 for two seasons. - If you have a 40 for two seasons, but I got 10 or 15 seasons of averaging 30 points or 28 points a game. That don't mean that you are the king. - I always find it interesting that argument, because you can look at somebody like, I just say biggie. A lot of people more consistent than biggie, had a long run, but people stood for biggie above. Most of those people want to go conversational. - Yes. - Because the, I'm with you, because I'm not making that, because you and I have had that conversation. But I'm just saying, sometimes the body of work is so essential to the genre and so special that I think it raises the level. And for me, particularly confessions. I don't know of too many albums that are in the conversation of confessions in the century. - That's what, our Kelly got two of them. Chocolate Factory, maybe three. - But keep in mind, I'm not making an art Kelly ushering compared to that. - I'm saying art Kelly's only out. - I agree with that. - He's not the game. - Okay, all right, all right. - That's my one. - I agree with that. I'm saying, but when you say confessions, you could say 87 or one, and you could potentially say my way, right? But my way is a, - And what's Chris Brown's confessions? - You don't have a confessions, but he has 20 albums of quality work that, and he's still putting them out. - No, this is not a knock against Chris Brown. - Chris Brown's elite, it's just for me, my king has a classic album. - Got you, got you. - Girl, okay. - And so then would Chris Brown be for you, ish, the runner up? That's what I was asking. The question I was asking, who would be the runner up? - I wish Chris. - We got, our Kelly is the king of R&B stated, who's the runner up? Who's second? Who's the runner? - Chris Brown and you would say usher, would be the runner up. - In this area, yeah. - Got it. - Okay, I still think we forgot Bobby Brown a little too soon. - Bobby Brown. - Yeah, the king of R&B. - Are you trying to trick me? (laughing) - You're not going to do that. - You're not going to do that. - You're trying to trick me to shit on Bobby Brown. I'm not going to do that. - I'm not going to do that. - Oh shit. - Well you can say, when I'm shitting on him, I don't know how to talk without shit on people. - You met this man. (laughing) - He gets straight, he's always offended. - He just shitting off Filipinos for no reason. - Wait, how? - I did not. - I said Filipinos for the bull now. - And I said they be there. - A bunch of little Filipinos. - Little Filipinos. - Is that what I said? - Yes. - Yes. - But I don't know where they put words about that. - I didn't definitely didn't say little Filipinos. (laughing) That's why we looked at you like that. - I met groups of Filipinos. - Small Filipinos. - Native Filipinos. - Not small people in the group. - Small bowling groups of Filipinos. - Anything wrong? - I mean, I don't know. Is your barber small? See, big Filipino. I got a great ad for you. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I got a ad, man. - Wait till we go. 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Like come on, dog. You know, with moms was here, she didn't play about that wig and it was a good wig. This goes to something we were talking about during the break. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. It was teasing me, you know, it's being a dick and completely wrong about saving money on the iPhone. Wait, I was, I was, I was wrong. I wasn't wrong. There's no right or wrong in it. Everybody get the iPhone that you can afford to get. Yeah. That's what I was trying to do. You want to get the rest of me? No, you poor bastard. That's what I'm saying. The one you can afford to get and the one that you need is two different phones. And that's what I'm telling him. Yes, he can mark it afford the two terabyte iPhone. He can't tell anybody what they can or cannot afford in this economy. Mark can afford it. I cannot afford it. And Joseph, I'm tired of hearing this poor shit. You poor bastard. Just get the two terabytes. I said, how long do I have to listen to this property? Yes. I told you to go on your phone, go to settings, general. Just see how much I use. Coupons. Coupons. That's what you're saving. That's what he told you to go and you would, I just told you to get the two terabytes. I can't afford yourself, save yourself some time and energy and not even have to worry about that. But the two seconds just saved me about $1,250. I'm good with that. That's worth saving money on. Get the phone you need. Your mom's funeral, however, is not where you want to save money. And I have every reason to believe, just, again, I know we shouldn't say this about our people. But I'm just trying to save money. No, what I'm trying to say is, funeral price is different. The funeral is as high as shit. Yes. Find a good, affordable, preferably black on funeral home, however, when you go to chicken next, right? You get what you pay for. You slam. You slam. That's crazy. You slam. That's crazy. I mean, all the signs were there. If you look at the picture of the funeral home, you say, look at the picture of the funeral. Yes. If you look at the price, the family, I know that's what you get to the family. For sure. Everything about that family says that they will go to that funeral home. That family say that Mama wasn't about to eat in the casket. She was the outfit one about to eat down. We don't come up with that. Jessica, you want to cut cause? I would like I might it's at least something you should wear you should honor what your mom said I find that most of us don't actually go to visit gravesites. You might be different most of you don't visit Yeah, let's see if you know you won't do that in this instance the Bronx ate a Flight away. It's kind of far though It's all right if you're gonna go once a year fuck it right if your gravesite is somewhere that's responsible for handing out Other gravesites, and I'm not I'm probably not gonna make it there the Bronx. How often y'all go to the gravesites you're talking about monthly weekly Couple times a year. If you go to the thumbs of you The one that I do visit often is probably Eight times a year give it take eight times a year. I need it in my neck in the woods If I go to see a Gravesite eight times a year the spirit better visit me and my sleep and bring me cookies and milk Eight times fresh for now light and Enough to see eight times that they don't look part of that is because I might not see you eight times in the next stop Five years. So what so why do we matter where they part? Why do I matter where they at? I'm gonna go there and make sure the headstone is straight. Yeah fresh flowers. I'm gonna do all that You can do the Bronx this I'm saying you could go far if you only go on a couple times a year. I'm sure good I'm sure you made a Bronx anyway. I'm sure good. Yeah, I'm saying that about the relative that I go see is because he's very close It's part of that I swing right by there running and he's in a wall So I just go sit on the bench talk to the wall. I know that this is a morbid. I know that this is a morbid talk Do you have to go to the place to talk to? It's just it's just your process. Yeah. Okay. It's just process But when but when y'all go if y'all go to the people that's alive through like how you getting that back like that zone It's taken it Not for me like when you when you go dead and you want hollet hollet homie like go hollet on I just sit down. Yo, what up man? You start talking as if he is on the phone. I lost what I got. Yes. Yeah Yes, I sit right there in front of the wall. He's like he's up four and six overs, so I go in a tight spot No, I'm sorry Because he's up. Yeah, and a mazalim. He's in the wall. The mazalim wall Why you where you going? No, you don't need to get a drink Mazalim is fly right? It is Let's have a man. Oh my lord saying cheap at all. Yo, my condolences to the family that Yeah We joking, but it's fucked up. Oh, yeah for the other Word is someone else is closed just Has anyone of your family members don't have a tombstone? I put a tombstone on my great-grandmother's Everybody got mine didn't everybody that passed got my great-grandparents in cuz they were enslaved so we put like a We put like a nice little thing over him you're great great-grandparents with enslaved I mean, yes, Joe your parents Okay, I'm the first free name Yeah, we had to put it we had to put it great for all of them and give them a proper name Yeah, cuz you know they didn't have full names Cuz they were named after the slave master. So they were able to give them full names You made up a name sort of you know sort of you play a different. I got to get to know you do is better Yeah, yeah, you're different. Yeah, it's great great-grandparents and you ADOS FBA people. Yeah, I'm real The yeah, cuz Lotteryg mayor weather Hill was like a colonel and like a big plantation owner in Georgia Got it. Okay, and so he named all of My all of my parents and great-grandparents, but he wouldn't give them full names. He just gave them LM So his initials, but they couldn't have his name Oh, that's crazy. So over time we gave them names my my grandparents great-grandparents took Lotteryg mayor weather We eventually got that name back and then my dad when he went in the army right around World War 2 Didn't want a lot of mayor weather But he they said man you got to have a name you can't just be LM in the army So he named himself Leon Melvin even so he's a junior even though no one else had that name so y'all Changed the names, but kept the initials Or and cap Hill, right and cap Hill. Yeah, I mean this the 20s didn't it There were no shibazzes in exes yet Yeah, that shit hadn't happened yet We can even vote niggas was this is this is bullshit the time. Paul. Yeah, but I think it's way different. Yeah, yeah Shout out to ADOS FBA. I love y'all Let's get rid of issues mark. Yeah, he's got a lot of money more than quarterback. It's sorry mark. Try to flip it. I'm gonna be ML I'm gonna be I'm gonna be I'm gonna be mod the mark. Yeah, it's got to happen. Yeah, that's fucked up Well It was over anyway, I just brought it up at the end. We's wanting to down to get for the audience Yo, all right real quick. I gotta I might lose my nut card over this man This pains me. It's really pains me. It's not gonna hold you Um over the weekend. I went to the Bryson tiller $1,000 Austin Mills and Magic Jordan show okay shit legit party Show at Prudential Center. Okay, the follow that was good so far. Oh Show's great. Okay, everybody put on an amazing show Prudential Center Prudential Center y'all should be ashamed of yourselves This was the worst orchestrated Floor area I've ever seen at a show house. Oh, um, they had general GA floor. Okay, so you had you had floor seats No, I didn't know there's no seats. This is GA. Yeah, so everybody's just standing on got it got it got it I'm in this I was in section got it got it Multiple times even the performers had to stop and say hey They're passing out they need water. Oh This isn't safe. I'm gonna bring back the old days No, no, no, no, no, no, I know I know I get it. I get it. I'm with you as days, but but this got so bad That I don't know who this chick was. Uh-huh, but I guess she was like a higher up at Prudential Center. Yeah came out on stage It was like hire guys um can you take a step back and they literally brought out like crates of just You know the NFL of Gatorade shit on the sidelines. Yeah, they brought water him out with cups and just start filling the shit with water Pass it into the I'm like. Oh dogs. What are we doing, bro? Wow they took a water brick and you blaming that on Prudential? Yes. I'm blaming that on Prudential That's organization. Yes I can't organization if you know how many people how you know how many floor tickets are sold for this event You know the floor capacity for this event. Oh, it was just too overpacked. It was too overpacked. Oh, okay I think she's the water part. I get it. No, I'm just it, but but once a bunch of people get together and bunch up like this You get hot and I'm talking about they carrying people out the crowd. That's crazy and this is an R&B show. Yeah, yeah This ain't no rage. It ain't none of that. They vibing right and these expensive Like like every counter is expensive. No, but some places like do I know like what I want to see Lauren there Like it was like the floor pit was kind of like general admission. It wasn't that expensive And so people were piling and others is like super expensive. I don't I don't know what the Because they're shaped how they treat the people there. Oh, I don't know Well, they I mean they eventually they did get it together like they roped off sections. They brought like they Missed people out mid show that's crazy. She came out was like hey, Bryson till there's not coming out until we fixed this Like everybody takes that's bad. I know y'all are booing. Oh see We're having what's that They didn't carry on stretches with your button before me I'm just I'm just saying hey Respect to Bryson and shout to Bryson You ain't gonna talk to me any type of way at a Bryson till the concert. I'll go. I got for the channel The Jay-Z concert is different. Hey, he's coming out. Be patient. All right. I'll wait Jackie Stadium is Jay. You ain't tell me. Hey, if y'all shut up Bryson Bryson's back up water All right, you you you you say that your motherfuckin was packed in there to the ceiling to see him They ain't give a fuck no disrespect that was not he could have done that it solo like They got it together. Oh, he can't R&B He had a king r&b didn't fuck that. Yo, no, you put me on. No, I slept. I didn't think that. I don't know what's going on out there It's like when I found out that Givion was selling out all of these fans I did not know that it was like that like we were shocked. We was in like oh shit I'm talking about every single word screaming at the top of the lungs every word. I was like, oh shit Whatever that was last year He did he sold out MSG so the bad shit twice back the back and they were door we were to his pack But now we talking about just last weekend. He did UBS and MSG and then this and then This past week and it just passed he does for didn't you and um went up the Boston like he's on an arena to kill it Have Majid Jordan get there The uber Probably got to be a big over two to it. I mean it Like even that Majid Jordan in the middle of the set. Hey stop hold on hold on stop stop stop stop stop That got any help. Hey Majid Jordan y'all can't stop no set Hey, there's a few people one's day It's a few people one's day he's there can stop and make sure people are alive Majid Jordan are not don't you? I'm not familiar with him Hey, you better keep us Shocking and job man. It's crazy But why your audience lost your Newark car for that. Yeah, I think this is bad because I don't I don't usually say anything bad about Norker anything I won't blame North for that. Yeah, I'm not blaming Nork I'm just blame north for you get your hundred out of the ticket get a water and we've seen a bazillion good shows It's fucking production. Of course so many. Yeah. I love prodigy, but again. It was just to see that it was especially we've seen a bunch of what good shows We've seen it for did you we saw good great. We saw great new addition there. Can we have one in great show? We was bitching about that's a great artist a great artist. Bill Burwell. Bill Burk comedy comedy is mine It's a dude and a mic I've saw Chris Brown that pretty think Chris Brown and no damn potential I've never seen this that's why I was just like wow Y'all I would have went just to see what McGee Jordan was you know what you should have texted me that who else is there I thought I saw Austin Mills, McGee Jordan Bryson Tilla It's not bad show. Bryson, Tilla is a good man I tell you that much What in a tight tight dollar sign boy Fettie wipe out there, which was of course. That's always great new jersey and jersey Shout out to Fettie. Shout out to Fettie. Oh my god. No, it's funny. I know a beef with McGee Jordan, either Right now. No, I don't want to be I don't want to be I'm I'm be say some shit. You don't want to be just hold on We go home wrang off of course excuse me. I said that record wrang off of course. Why is that coming on? Why isn't Yeah, go look it up. Yeah, I said shit. Is it a versus? No, it's not a versus what they did on there That's featuring with your joy. Yeah, you thought to make you try to be go check it. No. You try to find out you're doing it I see what you do. I'll do the Bapapas go check it. Yeah, be true for your joy for me. Did you wouldn't better not ever perform just hold on. We're going They might be the Bapapas man. Yeah, listen to me get the fuck out of here man enough now you out your mind If I'm not going to perform that record and it says featuring me. Oh, yeah For the drink parts. They just did them. They did the whole song. Okay. They did the drink part. They did the whole song Yo, I don't even know if Majid you and do they know drinks do Thanks Do they do they know him oh my god, do they know the boy today Now I'm gonna do you know what you're doing. I want to do that or a week and you did right nigger And we can got out of here. Nope. We can say you want me to be on the label with them. Fuck you You say I'm giving myself a trouble you say look you say do they know them do anybody It was I'm damn Majid you're Majid you aren't going up there be like I'm a doom and somebody else. All right, what a man's gone Stop it. You know enough. You know shot say about him. That's all man, and I fuck with Majid you're in too, but I'll be dead if I show up to fucking Hey, and that's a beads is something maybe yeah, Prudential. I'm here for the big axe. I Mean for the big time shit. They went on right before bison. They went on after time. Oh my don't tell me no more about the show I'm sorry don't tell me no more because you told him you tried to get me to get myself a job and I want to For good for them the people are jamming to the song Good who will forever organize that real good real good placements there. I was taking that but you know But no, I feel free free to just go to a show Free to just go to a show. Yeah, I was planning to go to this That's one of my things and I'll just go to shows, but I fuck with Bryson my lady folks with Bryson, so we we had a blast I love Bryson to shout the Bryson bird speaking in Newark. What's up? Shaq Big Jersey had a big along to y'all even get to steal Clint y'all don't That's not fair. Well you talking about how long we get the what how long do you get to rep some plays did you ain't? Why I'm just much a shot do for no for specifically no, I'm in y'all I'm in no I'm in all daily daily every day Doing what I got family I got people in the room my barber shop is in no time. I'm not you guys you got a pop missing no But when last time either y'all lived here What that man really long time. I'm asking does that not matter. No, it's not no, no, no I was about four four years ago. Yeah, have you lived in this century? Lie no, okay We knew I think it's from like a lizard with a star. He's just pick a hood whatever No, it's just the city. I lived in no I got family is that a room. He just he just go with You plan Joe city. I stopped you didn't well, I did now For me boy, I was mad I had to I had to give when I had to be safe for you I had to get with Jerry's five it's safe wherever I go. I'm protected by the law my law and save you Jesus grace This is a couple blocks that ain't gentrified. Yeah, you know, I mean I just say I feel safe way But we did we had me in my first baby moms had to have a lower invention. We put my older sons and it was at her house. I went over there Boy, I was mad at him everything. All right. So what's what you boy? Yeah Talk about being mad at your kids for being bad now look at you Your parents got a unite Oh, I'm talking about some shit. I got it. You got me sitting here agreeing with her. I ain't seen her since 99 I'm wearing furniture like it's my shit I'm in there. I'm in there. I'm in there smelling good looking good. I think I said yeah, never mind I never mind. Come on. Anyway, moving on. I'm so shocked. So you was able to sit there. Yeah, what do you mean? I don't think what you're saying. She got a man. I Would know that's one two. I thought You got to stay in the back when I'm in there. Did they fix that? You talking about who you talking about? You know the fuck you talking to nigger No, yeah, but you guys stay in the back when I'm there. I mean he Yeah, he got staying the back when I'm there. He wasn't there. He wasn't there. Oh, I wouldn't he didn't come out You didn't come out. Yeah, I wasn't sure. All right. We'll check this check. Make sure Shag went and got in a certificate from cash Patel the head of the FBI He got an honorary FBI agent badge Shack is like any like a sergeant or something in Florida too. Yeah, he said on a few Shack just be doing shit just because titles Big Jersey, which I hate you know or doc shack is a Seems to have a good heart and Contributes a lot to the underprivileged all around Jersey all around the country. Yeah, yeah, that's true I'm just thinking about the Jersey thing because y'all brought it up, but you're all around the country I can't tell you how many stories I've heard About Shack paying for something in line for somebody buying some paying for some ice college. I think it's the month or two ago We heard cars cars every I mean Shack does a lot We know that we shot a shack that's you know gee, but we don't have back You know that back because who you paying before men? Anybody who needs it one they pay for it is fire I feel when they pay no shit. I I would have did it too if I had that Hey, we're gonna take a look 30 for your class. I would have did it We got to stop hotter from that a lot of your niggas. I'm a money money. She's not my friend. Oh, yes You got to you got to stop listen Sometimes you get inspired because look Shot the shensia When for sure when uh Ro meet found shensia. She was in Jamaica. Mm-hmm, and she was I think like she was a bartender, but she Was it who she is today? He saw a vision if I was roaming something the same thing looking at that and look how she look now Sometimes you see somebody fucked up Hey, you like your vibe helped this person forever indebted forever right indebted to the ground Get down network. I'm just saying you got a thing like that it's you know you'll freeze I think it's gonna act too proper it be a lot of singers out here that can sing and only need is that extra bump to go into the studio bow It's nigga built should see a family compound boy. Oh, yeah, of course. It's your build ten houses on it See it's fine, but when they tell the story Romance said I just saw her somewhere and but he had the vision look how she's beautiful Mm-hmm. I saw you bumping in a lot of shit like that. Yeah, how many times you saw a girl at McDonald's. Hey, y'all He don't need the work here come. Let me teach you how to do real estate Hey, have you ever tried to get a girl to quit a job never That was it now I like mom would work With that like my work. Yeah, I'm with that. That's the game though. So Shaq Certificate he gets honorary badge some people are praising them real niggas are booing it cuz it's crazy As much as I love Shaq. I hate it. No, it's not hate. You said real niggas is bull in them cuz it's crazy That ain't crazy. Oh, I was crazy about it. I We in the hood we like fucked the police and you you Shaq not of the hood so yeah, so he's saying real niggas is in the hood Yes, that's what I'm saying so outside the hood. You no longer real nigga. Oh, okay, so you're not a real niggas So we said we the least of real, which is that we huh? You said we oh, I'm a spoke. Okay, right. I'm wrong Okay, I'm not a real nigga real niggas in the hood real niggas don't fucking police. They boo and Shaq. We got caught up got it. Okay, so Shaq gets a little get back by going to one of the people who was criticizing him online He goes into his DMs and In the guy's DMs Shaq Right, bro. He said I hear you broke boy have a great time in your apartment with your family He DMs it to the guy and I'm fair as he didn't go on his page. He did it profit and the guy screenshot of course He did he got them more than screenshot it. He made a video Joe played a video. He made a video. It's not like really a dish though to me What it's not a joy or time with your family? It's the right boy in your apartment You don't know he got a apartment. You don't have a house You're not a homeowner and you're broke. It's a little bit of a diss It's like it's not like and he's basically calling him a a hater and Then the guy responds essentially check your text. Okay. The nigga was mad talking about my homeowner. I'm a veteran. I'm gonna be with the plate Yeah, I was just yeah, Dr. Shaquille O'Neill says Yeah, oh plan already you broke boy Have a great time in your apartment with your family. Well, let's get one thing straight I ain't your fucking boy nigga. I'm a whole last man out here. So let's get that shit straight my nigga. I ain't your fucking boy, partner I Love Oakland nigga. I was just a nigga who supported your ass with Joe wack ass fucking movie blue chips The wack ass Shaqfoo Kung Fu gang Your bummy ass sneakers Your inability to have a fucking conversation without Sony's like I was just a nigga who was a fan of you. You know I'm saying but clearly my video has reached out to Shaquille O'Neill and A person who makes sneakers for low-income families and shit is just spewing classes them and my mother fucking inbox nigga So I'm gonna ask you a question homie Did you learn that from mr. Harrison your step daddy? You know the one who stepped up when your biological father didn't bother The one who you told the whole world and still disciplined and integrity right To do the right thing to never quit. I'm a pauses first. That's why you got to be careful You never know when you walk right into a loaded looks third-round burst exactly God damn. This is aggressive You don't want to wait for me to play the whole thing a little bit more. It's a little bit more at least Did he teach you this shit to Or now the sudden when the nigga called you out now you from North nigga now you from the bricks now word Well motherfuck I'm from Oakland, Colorado motherfucking food you and I'm a retired non-commission officer who standing on rolls and principles niggas All right, I used to rock with Joe goofy ass niggas and now you appear politicking with motherfuckers who protect pedophiles my niggas But you mad at me though because I'm a real solid nigga like fuck this nigga and don't you shit? Hmm, let me explain something to you Combat veteran two tours. I'm home going to my nigga This moved me and rather you a ex fat out of shape basketball player or a regular nigga on the street I ain't gonna ever let no motherfucker try to flex on me nigga like I ain't got shit nigga. I'm a home owner Niggas ain't done special, but this shit mine niggas Don't you have in your motherfucking life home boy come at me crazy cuz you mad cuz people getting on your fucking helmet for going out dumb bad niggas You got me fucked up Hey, so try again like yo ass at the fucking free throw line and my feet prettier than yours. Niggas Fuck Papa John's to niggas That's on ground table pizza niggas Fuck Bob of John's even if you got some tomato paste and bread at home nigga fuck Bobby Shit, I love that response. It's your mark. Have at it Have at what you say he was wrong. I think that's what he's no he starts talking about the beginner shit Not I ain't really agree with the beginner shit When you say something to somebody online and you rude to somebody online and they shoot back at you You can't now say that they're wrong for that We people be saying whatever they want to say to people that are quote-unquote celebrities or people that are in the public media spotlight And we expect for those said people to eat it almost like yo, you you you you signed up for that so you shouldn't reply These are human beings so sometimes they want to reply they not wrong for replying the same way You don't think you wrong for sending the shot in the first place said to so what he said cool I'm not disagreeing what he said like you know my nigga. I don't got to be as rich as you But this is my shit and I work for my own shit and I appreciate that like it's nothing wrong with that at all But again, you can't get mad at him now for replying when you might have initiated the the rule discourse But see I think it's different To criticize something that somebody does publicly if it's in the content of what they did publicly For example, I made it I was joking with you, but I said some shit about real niggas not being from the hood Somebody sends a note to me and says yo, I disagree with Mark that's fucked up blah blah blah. That's cool If I go on his DMs and be like You shorten your breath stink To me that's outside the context of what we talking about you offer the critique of what I said publicly and you respond So if Shaq publicly You take the FBI badge from one of the most corrupt presidential administrations in history It's welcome to be critique and that's what do you did? I but do you know what he said? Yeah, I saw he didn't do personal with Shaq. That's my point So when Shaq responds with you broke and you living in an apartment not to do anything wrong with living in an apartment not doing the wrong with so every try to slide Yeah, he just missed him almost like I don't have to listen to your opinion because you're poor, yeah To do was like I'm not gonna let you do that to me, and I'm not gonna let you do it in private either And then he makes the public video that's what I don't think dude did anything wrong Because Shaq initiated the the whole thing with his public decision and he initiated the personal part By sending the DM so I'm with dude on that and again, I love Shaq. I love what Shaq does, but this shit was wrong To me like I said I didn't see the issue. Yeah, I don't know I really need to know exactly because if he if there was disrespect in there, and he could respond No, he been getting his ass whipped online So yes, so a lot of times that shit might pile up in the frustration pile up and you shoot at somebody like again I think we take the humanity away from public public people and I think that shit is unfair So yeah, I think I think being human is saying you fuck this one up. I get why you do it I might do it too sometimes, but when I but I still fuck that one up like sending somebody that message is not okay Right, it's human. It's not okay. It just depends. I want to keep being the same horse, but it depends on how he said that an issue message Cuz Shaq could have been overreacting you absolutely right could have been overreacting and now once you open that door Yeah, you set the runway for dude to do whatever you want to do It matters so we know she kill O'Neal for not really being a classes We know she kill O'Neal for catching people on the side of the road He'll get a nigga a job. He'll buy a nigga a minivan. He'll get somebody Literally a construction van or a landscaping van to start work He's done shit like that put you in one of his apartments for free till you and your family get on your feet That's who he is as a man that nigga used to ride around LA would track the trailers full of toys at Christmas time and didn't want no Media and no public notoriety. He told the media like yo if y'all follow me. I'm I'm canceling it So he's helped thousands and thousands of thousands of families, so I ain't necessarily who he is It's not indicative of who he is as a man. He just might have been having a bad day You gotta eat that and OG big Matt, which is his name. He he burned Shaq's jersey That was the initial video saying I and it wasn't law enforcement issue. He was like it's this administration It's cash Mattel. It's this shit. I can't fuck with you anymore Shaq. I come on burn this jersey. Come on I think you got to write to do that. That's right for nigga. That's not yeah. Yeah, that's right. You did a good job. Yeah, nigga I'm gonna tell you about your broke apartment and I think that you're in why you burning my jersey because you don't fucking agree that I Like nigga come on If under jerseys are full with the suspect nigga they burn nigga America get mad when you burn a flash Just like that and and you burn shit see I look at it as you burnt you burnt this jersey for for some level of attention I think burn is somebody's jersey is disrespectful more because you said yo, you shouldn't attack me personally For real no because he he sang I was a fan of yours. He went as closet and burned it He even go to the the the the starter store or the NBA store He said I'm a big fan of yours. This broke my heart. I'm I don't know if he brought he threw in the dumpster I think it might be better, but the point whatever he did to it He was saying I can't fuck with you anymore because you did this awful thing cool. I don't think that that's personal I think that that saying I was a fan of yours and I no longer a fan of yours anymore. I don't think that's the same as saying you need to tell me that Would you say do you need to tell me that yeah, yeah, yeah, and if you burn my jersey of you throw my jersey up here every day We say we're fans and people sometimes here what we say and have something back to say I'm good with the clap back. I'm saying don't go personal if somebody goes personal mark if you are broke Yeah, if you are burning live in a party Jersey that is personal. I mean, niggas. I told I like the music. I said back to me You are burning my jersey. That is a personal thing that somebody can take personally You can take anything personally, but what I'm saying is that's not a personal attack. I'm not attacking your life I'm not taking your character if so if I um if I if I throw away our Kelly CDs That's attacking him personally after what he did Just use as an example because that's a comparable example it would you say that would you say that's personal? Yeah, I don't think what shak did is anywhere near. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. I know I'm saying the city to the You want to miss my now the city to the artist. I understand I just think that LG was not the same. I wasn't it because I think Our Kelly's a heinous person and shak just did a fucking shitty PR thing. I'm not saying what they did is the same I'm saying the city to the artist is actually Jersey to the player. So I'm saying if I get pissed off and oh Take Calvin Murphy. I mean Calvin Murphy did an awful thing similar to our Kelly if I if I throw if I burn his jersey I don't think that's a personal attack on him. I'm it's me saying publicly This is my statement of protest against you because the Jersey is something I bought in a store. I think like um To me when I'm talking about the personal distance like attacking people's characters people's eyes people's families that that's that's what I'm talking I think all of it is what I think all of it is whack But you can't now say that this person because I'm again, I think it's all whack But you can't now say that this person shouldn't stoop that low and these people can't stoop that low and it's okay I think it's I think it's I think it's you and I don't really can't I think we can draw boundaries and on reality People go above me on just to get the attention. We have to look at them as well. Yeah, that's true People go above me on to get the attention if somebody say something y'all don't like this, you know sometimes We try to tell people how they should this us. I'm one of them. You know you should just don't bring up my family Just say this and I'm fine. I'm cool And then the day people gonna do whatever they want to get the attention Sometimes be feeding to when I agree with you and I do understand what you're saying, you know, I mean I think that burning the jersey burning some, you know, or something personal somebody somebody get a threatening I don't want to reduce it just to Because I made a decision for one of a shack reason is to go get the FBI badge or whatever he got That's his personal decision and it should be scrutinized. Yeah, keep that shit to yourself though. I Think you won't like me keep it. I don't gonna fuck you on like my I do now Because if if if if an NBA player right now stood up and said I support Trump I support everything Trump is doing and I said and I want to make an Instagram video on through his jersey in the trash I think nobody will be mad at that. They would all agree with me. I agree and no one else personally attacking him They would just say but that person now reserves the right to just to shit out you at their leisure Yes, you can't now put a curtain on how far they could go That's a different issue to me. No, listen I'm listening. No, you didn't read that like what I'm saying is what he's been for me because y'all are kind of going around about I'm not I don't For me, it's less about putting a curtain on or or a cap on how far somebody can go and more about Letting it be known the true colors of someone when they're angry and I think his point He did a second video and in the second video. He said people were saying I'm doing this for attention Check my page. I do video. I do videos. I'm fine with the attention I get this is not a cloud move This is to let y'all know that somebody who portrays himself as this philanthropist and somebody who's so giving and such and such In a blink of an eye can turn into a classic and start calling people broke and having some all apartment I think he was just showing the discrepancy and that's our true not saying hey, you shouldn't be able to say that to me He never once said you shouldn't be able to talk any of us. I'm not saying put a curtain on it I'm saying I'm just critical of what I'm saying is this is a human being That's what I'm saying. I'm saying this is a human being and Shaq's philanthropy works speaks for itself I think we can all agree to that and sometimes you could be having a bad day if the internet is lighting yo-ass up And it's thousands and thousands of people saying mean shit to you You could be having a bad day and you can lash out because you're a fucking human being Yeah, I think we all we know I've been on the receiving Yo, actually, because he's basically showing somebody's true colors. That's not necessarily true He's a true human being so yeah I can do all of these things that I don't want no credit for and I don't talk about that much and at the same token I could be the nicest nigga in the world. I could punch you in your fucking face when I feel like you get out of pocket We are human beings and we both are we all multifaceted and if you catch a nigga on a wrong day That's a really nice motherfucker. You could get your ass Because we respond I don't mean he's being a fraud by being a nice way for my philanthropy work that I don't think it takes away from the philanthropy But I think it just raises a different question and for me again one bad moment shouldn't define you And I'm not saying that he's not human and I'm not saying we should put a kernel on people can say people have a right to respond However, they want I'm not I'm not saying they can't I'm just saying if you do that I'm going to be critical of it because I think it is classes and I do think it's fucked up And I think that celebrities especially higher earning celebrities and and and the bigger celebrities the one with Publicists and teams and all that I think it's almost your job to be aware of what Actions you could take publicly that would bring back that type of vitriol or Criticism right like if somebody go out there and perform at the Trump I got a convention You should expect somebody to burn and judge is going to ask something to say this guy clearly has strong opinions on cash Patel so like we all do Like be clear. I don't think I wouldn't have done that cash Patel can't invite me and I'm not shakill O'Neal He can't invite me up there to give me no award. I'm cool. I'm cool But if shak chose to accept the award then again, yo, I just don't think it gives right to people to write to say whatever Means shit. They want to say to him dog. I don't stand by that Just remember in 2024 just because you I get you on some bad I was trying to remember who this was but in 2024 academics also said the shak threatened to be a DM and say you broke little bro There are lots this isn't the first or second time that this has happened. So I think there is a pattern there And again, that might be his way of talking shit. That might be joking, but I don't know who might be broke there. No academics ain't broke, but I'll talk to him to Shaq and that's a accent He said Shaq's ability there. He said to me, you know, everybody's broke to Shaq. It's Shaq It's shabro and a lot of niggas when you start talking shit. They immediately go to y'all broke, right? But I was just doing it Joe does it. Yeah, he made me feel real small door So what I'm saying is when niggas starts talking shit a lot of times niggas are start going and you broke I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong But when you started attacking the niggas the gloves come off. Right. That's not the gloves coming off But I was just disagree with the idea that this was a one off. This is just a one time old frustration So I was saying there are this happens But let me ask you let me ask you something, right? And again, I don't want to drag this If dude if y'all saying dude burning in the jersey was a Personal attack then what would have been a reasonable way to express your criticism? It's no reason he bought the jersey. It's he shit It's not unreasonable for him to do that I'm saying that when you do that and you publicly put it out there the same way y'all are saying shak is open a public Criticism when he goes and puts his arm around cash per tell when you start publicly criticizing somebody then it's part It's part for the course. Let's dance and I smack you and you body slam me and stop me out. You're not wrong You don't have to smack me back because I only smacked you niggas how you respond is how you respond I can't body slam you if you smack me To wait on a dead body You know what I'm saying like yo you can't you can't say yo He should have played under these rules because he should kill on ill know. He's a human being Speak it just on subject smack him just let you talk if I smacked you Would fingerprint stay on your face? Yes, because of your complexion Like a man print hard do you smack hard you? Yeah, like he's got a hard smack not me. Take it very it's you got a hard smack Would five think it'd be five red marks This uppercut came on my pocket. I said not me with a left hook. I said not me. I said not me. Not me. Not me I don't let no nigga do that one. Yo, you you got a hot cheekbones, too. Thank you. Yeah You were super out, super out, super out, super out, super out, super out. So bro, why is he showing himself last land right here in your mouth? I do have my cheekbone, my cheekbone. No, that thing about it, I never thought about it. He's on his arm there. Yo, since we talk about celebrity beefs. [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, there was a celebrity in a half right then. It was Shaq and-- I don't want to promise you what you meant. I want to be the-- you know what? Why? Let me leave you the fuck alone. Jalen Rose has been going off a lot lately. Jalen Rose has been going on so much. I thought he was operating from a burner. Yo. He's just shooting at people. Really? I'm blocked. He's clapping, he's clapping at people. But you said you're blocked? Yeah. What got you? Blocked from Jalen Rose. What did you do to get blocked from Jalen Rose? No, Jalen Rose just went on a tear where he would block anybody that mentioned Kobe's 81 game. Oh shit, there you go. Long 'til-- There's a while ago, like anybody they ever brought, even bring it up. He was like searching that shit and just blocking for it. Wait, you didn't even tag him? No. Not at that time. Then afterwards, of course, I tag him. Right. Of course. Of course. Of course. Blocked me. It was a talk about it. Jalen Rose shot at Stephen A Smith, which to me was like, okay, there could be something there. I get that one. I get it too. I get it so much I want to discuss it one day. I get it so much that that would be a great conversation in one of these days. That day is not today. But Jalen Rose also shot at Dr. Umar and the people of the platformer, which is us or used to be us. Then we hired him. Don't look at that. On me. He said he'd done all he needed to do up here. He didn't say it. Maybe. I'm telling you what he said. He dropped 81 and he said he was done. He was great up here. Yeah, I think he-- I seriously did a hard to dialogue and killed that too. Yeah. He's great. Umar for whatever you think about him, I think he kills. I think he kills weird shows. - Where he shows off that he's dressed. - He's a fucking b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b- - I don't see it on his page anymore, I may be I missed it, but it looks like it, I don't see it, so I'll just assume that. - But why would Jalen Rolls be shooting at me, I don't even need the tweet. - Let me show what it says, I got the tweet, I want to read it, it's deleted, but I have a screenshot of it, I prepare it for the show. - I'm so disappointed in my people platforming and quoting cats like Dr. Umar, who have never nurtured nor educated any student. - That? - Teacher brief. - That's heavy, yeah. - That's heavy for a lot of, first of all. - That's loaded. - I didn't know where it came from, I was like googling and searching to try and figure out that Umar said something about Jalen. - Jalen has a school, right? - Yeah, he got a school. - Yeah, but like, that's still like a kind of random, like his school didn't open just now, Jalen's, you know what I mean, nothing happened in the news to make me think, it just seemed kind of random. I'm not saying it is random, I'm saying I don't know what the story is. So I went looking and I couldn't find anything, and then Umar, I mean not Umar, Jalen started to respond to people who were like, why are you coming at Umar like? And he basically just started touting his record and the record of his school. - Okay. - But it just got to do with Umar. - That's the part I don't understand. That's the part I don't get. First, I want to be clear, because he says Umar is never nurtured or educated any student, that's not true. Umar has taught students, he's been a mentor, a counselor, a psychologist. He's done free parenting and childhood development classes during the week on the phone, he's open in the school. I mean, you could name 50 things he's doing, you could have ideological disagreements or whatever, we can have that as family, but I wouldn't say that Umar has never nurtured or educated any student from his book alone. - He might not just know. - Yeah, he just might not know. And so it's almost like he's saying, why are you all platforming somebody who I don't think is legitimate. But he never fleshes out the argument. - It sounds like, I mean, just off the little bit you said, it sounds like, hey, I got a school and y'all not talking about mine, but y'all keep talking about him and his. - And his school ain't even open. Why is he getting this attention and y'all not supporting me? - I want Jalen to get more support. I don't want to get in the middle of their beef, because I don't even know what's really going on there. But I think Jalen's right to say, not so much the Umar criticism, but I think he's right to say, yo, I opened a school. People open up chicken shacks and get more public attention than I get for opening up a whole school, graduating students, sending them to college. - That's free. - Yeah, that's free. I mean, there is something to be said about that. - You can do all of that without mentioning Umar. I think the second you go and mention somebody else who's doing something as a, hey, y'all talking about him and not me, you fuck up your whole message. - There's another one I'm conflicted in, because I totally agree with what you saying, freeze on the flip side, I do enjoy just. - Shootin' somebody. [laughter] - Like, really? - There's too many of the right and wrong police. Well, he said that, is he right? Does he have a brain? Does he have a school? - Yeah, he said the right to say that. - He has a school, so he can say that. He can shoot at him. Yeah, dog. People are wrong every day. - Mm-hmm. - You can just shoot at somebody. - But when you shoot at somebody that's doing what you're doing. - And getting attention that you're not getting, then it's going to come off away. - You know, sometimes when you shoot in a shot, who cares how it comes off here? - Well, you got to be willing to deal with that. - That's what I'm saying, the person. - The person that's shooting a shot got to be aware of how it's going to come off. Sometimes you're going to look nuts. If you got a problem with looking nuts, then you shouldn't be shooting shots. - Well, he deleted the tweet. - That don't tell me he got a problem with looking nuts. - That tells me that something. - Well, I'm shooting at you over you doing something. - I mean, I said something. - I didn't say that. - I didn't say that. - I didn't say that. - It's a bunch of shit that could've been there. - Oh, I felt like that three hours ago. - I've cooled off. - And, yeah. - I still feel like that. - But I just don't want it to sit there now. - I don't want to. - Yeah. - Black men to be beefing on internet. I'm bigger than that. - That's my issue. - Oh, God. - What? - What would you? What? If they don't have an actual issue, when nothing actually came up, and you just randomly just pick somebody, and just start swinging, I would've preferred him say, you know, we give credit for so many other things. Why not to this school? - Yes. - That's all I'm saying. Now, if you have an actual issue with him, then say what the issue is. But he didn't say the issue. - This is bringing me back to one of my favorite lies told on his pod, which was by Asian Mark. - Tell 'em, yeah, I'll go up there and work, be a teacher for a day. - I was out in the lot. - 'Cause y'all wouldn't. - I didn't say teacher for a day. I would teach a whole class. - I wouldn't. - I wouldn't. - Well, I wouldn't. - Look at that. - That's not true. - Did they reach out and try it? - Oh man. - It's not open yet. - Got it. - But still, I'm man. - I won't work until I'm free. - I want to ask you to go up there, you wouldn't go up there. - No, I'm not going up there. - Why won't I even tell that lie? - But you don't need that lie. - It's a lie, shit, you wouldn't do that. - Awesome. - I don't believe you would go to Umar school and do that. - Okay. - I'm entitled that. - When it opens up, you'll find out. - But what? - What's your basis for thinking that? - Mark, you can't fool me. - I wasn't being funny. - He said when you said when it opens up. - I'm saying it open up. - When it opens up. - I'm saying I will teach a course where this is true. - Well, the steps wouldn't need to be taken before it opens up. Why the school got to be open? Y'all can reach out and say yo, man, can you put my name down? So I could be one of the first speakers. - I told him that. - Because it's important. - I already did that. - Where? - I told Umar directly. - Where? - On the phone? - To his face. - Oh, you say them. - Yeah, I told him that. - I went to him. - So nobody can verify it. - Umar will verify it. - He won't. - He won't come up here since you got hired. - You know, there are other places other than your platform, Joe. I don't know if you know that. - I don't know. - He'll come up with all eyes on me. We went to salute the eyes on me. I went down to Umar's school in Wilmington, Delaware for like the first like ground breaking. It was a celebration. It was a party. And I told him, he showed me around the school. And I said, if you want me to teach, I'm happy to do it for your charge. - And I still hold fire. - I still hold to that. - All right, y'all gonna do it. I'll go up there and teach you a little music class or something. - Yeah. - I'll teach you a little bit of class. - We'll see. - Tell me when it opens. - You can go up there, nigga. - That fuck outta here. - You would want a nigga on your platform. We got what we got. - If you ask me to go up, go. - See, that's the nigga team. - That's different. That's different from. - Hey, as soon as you do that, I'll volunteer to be with that. - Don't fucking think it's just a lie. - It's a lie. It's a lie. - Why does it look like a lie? - It's a lie. - Why do you take away art from people? - These people have morals. - I'm not saying that they're not honorable. And I'm not saying that they don't like teachers. - So why does it look like a teacher? - They don't like teachers. - But just saying it. - All right, take it back. I don't believe it. - I mean, I'm not saying it's a lie. - I do not. - That's fine. - I would absolutely do it. - He teaches, nigga. He teaches, fuck it. - I would be honored to do it. - I would be honored to do it somewhere. - He teaches anywhere. Mark would teach on 42nd Street. If you give him-- - And when y'all do it, beat me so I can come listen to it. I want to hear it. I want to hear the teachings. Teach me to. - You don't think he only teaches. - You don't. You want to talk about Jay-Z? - Do you want to talk about Jay-Z? - I don't care. - I just been listening to you. - If Jay-Z said he would go teach, I bet you would be like, "Hold up. Hold up. Hold. You wouldn't say he lying right." - That's where we different is. That's you. - No, that's you too. - That's you too. - You become fan'd out for these celebrities, especially ones with money and muscles. - Says the nigga that says, "Y'all never just hold up here." - That's very different. - No, it's not. - From fanning out over somebody's celebrity. - I don't have a fan club or something. - You was going to London. You was buying a flight to go see that. - This has been 50-60 grand for a suite. - I've been 50-60 grand every month, aren't you? - What's your point? - What's your point? - You don't fly somewhere to see some human nigga every month. - Ding, ding, ding. - He has a pose that's been a 50 gram. - You just be fan that over, man. - It's all right. - Pitch it at. - It's nothing wrong with it. - Pitch it at. - No, and he's a good guy. He's got joints. - Not bad. - Why are you mad at that? - Nigga, 'cause you changing your attitude, talking about somebody fanning out over, man. Nigga, you fan out over, man. - Certain, man. - Oh, I didn't. So keep that to yourself. Don't keep it to me. - Learn, man, would you do it too? It's okay. - No, it's not, though. Easy, cabinet, Jay-Z decoded, he's breaking down. I love the dough. - Decoded. - He's breaking down. - He's breaking down, yeah. - That's how you see it, Joe. Break down was kind of nice, though. - He's breaking him as it was okay. - I don't like it. - Yo, no, no, no, no. - I don't like Rick Rubin and Jay-Z together. I like Rick Rubin's like producer interviews, and he does on his podcast, but for some reason, it's like explaining to the way that it's presented. It's like, let me explain these rapplers, just some of them knows nothing about hip-hop, and I just don't believe that Rick Rubin knows nothing about hip-hop. - Yeah, I'm so excited. - I took it like that. I took it like, yo, you know about hip-hop, but you might not know about the world that I come from. So I'm giving you a deep dive on these particular lyrics, and where they came from in the origin of them. I thought it was dope. I only seen the first two episodes. - Yeah, me too. - Yeah, I think that's all I saw. I thought it was dope, I think. - I've heard both of them do much better interviews. I guess it's awesome. - It looks fantastic, though. - It looks amazing. - I don't like Rick Rubin and Jay-Z anytime they in hollow space. - Anytime they somewhere where there's no furniture, it just looked like they vowed to get all meditative and think they're trying to hold you in. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But this is my problem is that typically, where Rubin interviews get pretty meditative and off to being path, and this is not, this is not. This is just very-- - They can be staying in there. - Yeah, we write to-- - They can be staying in there. - We can take the tickets to Skulls $1,500. Like that's okay. Like that's not very deep to me. - You want it to get-- - You want it to get-- - The glimp's like, oh yeah, he's breaking down. She, I was like, listen, this is clearly not for me. I totally understand the Jay-Z versus that we break down. This is like hole in one or one, but you know what's crazy? - Which is cool. - Mad people didn't. I'm talking about Ratniggas was calling me like, yo, you used to be telling us about the dynasty verse. People really didn't understand what he was saying in that verse. A lot of people. And when you hear Rubin saying, oh, I didn't even put that together, that just confirms that-- - Yeah, I felt like Rubin was from-- - He was lying. - Yeah, he was fucking lying up there, man. He did too many fucking hip hop records, so not know what to fuck those bars, man. But maybe I'm wrong. And I've listened to his other podcast, where he knows a lot about a lot. - But the Anton just about like Bill Cosby signing shit, he was sitting-- - Dad, I didn't know. - You didn't know that? - No, I didn't. - Partically he said, he didn't know that. - I actually-- - Are you serious? - Yeah, I'm very serious. I didn't know the Bill Cosby shit. I didn't know that's what he was getting at. No idea. - Oh, wow. - Huh. - Yeah. - Oh, we'll see. - There you go. - I guess it worked. - There you go. - There you go. And you was around and used to read the fucking newspaper every day. So when Bill Cosby was on the side of the-- yeah, I think he used to buy paper every day. - Well, you should let him shoot. - No, no, no. - It's the way you do it, you can't get by me, though. - I know, but they fucked it up, they-- - I know the marks. - I was sitting there. - I was-- - Mark. - I had a whole new newspaper. - What new newspaper, Joe? - Wolfie Journal. - Fuck you, Joe. - Oh, I'm sorry. - That was a good one. - That was a good one, Joe. - The time. - The time was funny, you know. - He's done a lot of some-- - Trevor Noah. - Trevor. - And his man that was his lawyer during the whole thing, which is the first one I watched, he said with Josh Josephson, the comedian dude that's on Comedy Central. - Yeah, he's hilarious. - He's great. - I love his sets on Instagram. - He's got a million interviews. - Yeah. And so at this point, I think he's exhausted all of it. But it seems to be the recurring theme of Jay-Z that gets everything hit in the news cycle. - Yeah. - He's been very clear that his narrative of how things went very different than Jay-Z's narrative of events. He's also made it clear that he is deeply critical of Jay-Z's role in all of this as a power broker and his relationship to the NFL in particular. And he's even called him, if I remember, I want to quote this correctly, NFL's Blackface. - Yeah. - Not Blackface, but Blackface, just to be clear. And I thought that was powerful. And I would not have expected a Jay-Z versus cap narrative even a year ago, even though I knew that there were tensions. I knew the tensions. And I've heard the tensions behind the scenes and in front. But I didn't expect it to be public because neither of them tends to move that way. I think part of where it hit that really bumpy role was the roots picnic. - Mm-hmm. - I think that was exciting. - Oh, did he put his name in the bar? - Yeah. - Yeah. - And from Cap's perspective and from what those didn't know inside his perspective as well, he misrepresented the situation, right? 'Cause he's saying he signed a nine, he's basically saying Cap sold out and sold it a nine disparagement agreement to the NFL. Y'all saying I'm the sell out to NFL, it's really Cap. And Cap and he did not sign a nine disparagement agreement with the NFL. And he didn't do what was alleged. And I don't know if that was hyperbole for the, to make the rhyme fit, whatever, however you think about it, it was wrong. And I wish he hadn't done it. But it got them here. So it's a very messy place and it's a little awkward to watch. - It is a little bit. 'Cause he's talking about how Hove, or Brock Nation specifically reached out to him to represent him at some point. - Mm-hmm. - Hove wore the jersey and a performance somewhere. - Yeah. - And then he kind of dubbed Cap when he tried to reach out to him. - Yeah, it wouldn't take a long phone call. - And then what in the NFL deal, yeah. - And it was a narrative that he checked with Cap before he took the deal and then Cap said no one talked to me at all before this happened. So there's just, there's two very different stories. And I haven't heard Jay-Z's version of events. So I don't wanna assume that Cap's version of events is 100%. But they have very different stories. Even if what I've heard behind the scenes with regard to Cap returning to the NFL, I've heard very different stories. - That's the part that, so that whole trial thing, you've heard different stories of that? - Yeah, okay. - Yeah. - 'Cause that was my whole hang up. It's like, and now that you're saying that there's different stories, I-- - What stories do you hear? And I'll tell you what the other version is. - Story I heard was about the trial. I had the trial scheduled at the last minute he moved it somewhere. - Who's he? - Cap. - Cap. - Okay, yeah. - That's what I heard. - That was the public story. - That was the public story that went out. - Yeah. - That they had the scout stare giving them a try out. And at the last minute he moved it across town somewhere. - No, he had cars. - Yeah, did his own thing. - Yeah, and then he was sort of getting in his own way. - Yes. - So I was expected even maybe on purpose. - Yes, that's what it, the way that went out looked like he kind of self-sabotaged that. - Yeah. - Cap really has a different version of that. - I'm not saying Cap. - Didn't he confirm that? He moved it, I don't know what the-- - It's the way of it. - It's the way of it. - Yeah, it's the way of it's that. - But I think he confirmed that he did in fact move it. I don't know why he moved it, but I think he said he moved it. - And that's what I wanted to hear more of from him. - Has he said the way yet? - Not publicly. - Yes, he has. - Yes, he has. - I just don't remember it. - He said it, Van Leathen has said it. He said the private workout stuff is true. But in the final hour, in the final hour, they were trying to get him to relinquish his certain player rights and they added, they wanted him to wave certain shit that no other player would have had to. And including in that was your ability to sue us on any front for anything moving forward. - Oh, yeah. - Cap said it. - Cap said his attorneys told him, "Hey, I would be committing malpractice to have you sign this." - Okay. - He told me that. I didn't realize that was-- he said that in the interview. - So he moved it to still have a tryout so they could see his talent and ability. But if it were to take place where they had it under the guidelines and the rules that they had said for if he said he'd have been fucked. - Got it. - Which is very different from the story when I-- - Yeah, that is very different. So it's up to people to decide who's right and who's wrong here. - Do you think we'll ever hear Jay-Z's side from Jay-Z? - No. - No. - No, I don't see it. - I don't see it. - You might sprinkle little shit in bars, but I don't think you're ever gonna hear the-- - That's-- - This is what happened. - You hear it in bars. - Yeah, if it happens-- - It comes out you hear some stuff. But yeah, I don't think he does sit down to discuss it. There's a list of shit. Dame-Dash at the top of that list. Capronic on that list is what. I don't think Jay-Z is gonna sit down and just offer an explanation for 'cause I don't think he moves that way. - And I'm just-- I just checked real quick. The other thing that Cap disagreed on with that workout was he wanted his team to be able to film the entire thing and the NFL didn't-- wasn't agreeing to that. And like you said, with the waiver, normally it's the waiver just for injuries. But their waiver was you can't sue us for anything down the line. I was like, yeah, I don't know how to do this. - I'm gonna sneak a little loophole there. - Yeah, just sneak a little loophole there. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - At least this feels, as opposed to like, Shaq versus OG Big Matt. - Yeah, respectfully. - This feels like the stakes are sufficiently high. - Yes. - Or Omar versus Jalen Rose, right? This feels like where, I'm not even sure what this, what the, I'm not saying they're not important, I'm saying they're, I don't know what their beef is about. - Right. - This feels like high stakes. This is about justice. This is about capital. This is about freedom of speech. This is about all these things that we really care about. So at least Jay-Z and Cap have us talking about these issues. I just wish the conversation would shift toward those issues more so than the personalities or the personal stuff or. - Pussy, and I think that's why the NFL went to hope. So the conversation don't shift. We go get him, we know y'all follow him. We can kind of put this to bed and everybody move on now. - Well, for sure. I think that's what Cap was kind of saying in the black face, not black face thing, he was saying. They were openly in a way that he had never heard before saying we need a black person to come say that the NFL is pulling it again essentially. - Have you all, do you all put any stock in the reports that have come out in the last four or five days to say that because of all this hullabaloo that the league is having some difficulty getting a few time before. - I have time performer. - No, because I think that people are running from it that people don't want the negative press to make come out. - I don't believe that because I think whole of it's a half time performer. - Personally. - But what's the most important? - He's going to be it because of that, that they can't get nervous. - I said that beforehand when he start popping out and doing shows and preparing y'all for stadiums, I'm warming up so that I could do it. - And they have historically, at least under his tutelage or whatever, picked someone that's had like a massive year in terms of performances, visibility, all that stuff. So for this year, who, he's, he's, he's him. - He's him. - It would be him. - He's created that for himself. - Yeah. - I had heard reports of Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, I heard some other people who were floating and then I've heard it might be Jay-Z and friends, that it's not gonna be a traditional Jay-Z kind of do all of halftime, but that he's gonna bring people on and that those might be among those people. - I can see that. - I can see. - I have no idea, but that's what the reports are saying. - But yeah, I definitely think it was him. - I definitely don't believe it. They can't find someone to do that. - Half time. - I think it's the people they want, where's it work come from. - I don't believe it. - I don't believe that. - And the height of that cap shit, people still ran to there and did it. They will have an announcement to you by October. - Oh yeah. - For sure. - Yeah. - Just like they've done in previous years, when Jay-Z has been in charge of halftime show. And for them to do that, they would have to have been working on it for quite some time. I don't believe that anybody's having a problem finding a Super Bowl show, but that ain't my thing. Anyway, I ain't loved the Super Bowl shows since you took over. - I did. - I know I'm alone. I know I'm alone. - You not alone. - I totally get not alone. - I'm into minorities with that. But I've been saying the whole time. The Usher one was cool. - That's what it was engraved for. - I like that, buddy. - That's bad, buddy. - The money was created. - How about the West Coast LA shit? I loved it. I know a lot of people didn't hate it that way. - Absolutely. - I really loved that one. - Absolutely hated it. But again, I like the story that one told. I like the story that Bad Bunny told. I like the story that Kendrick told. But as far as Super Bowl, I have time shows, I'm going to get some chicken dip and some, it ain't that. - And there's shit to be over in the blink of an minute. It's shit to be over. - Yeah, it's only 10 minutes. - Yeah, 13 or 10. - Yeah, that ain't nothing. - And I gotta say, this Valentine's thing, it's stressful enough. If the halftime show is Jay-Z, it's not gonna make any easier. - They need to be. - That's something that can make it easier. - Who would make your Valentine's day more bearable? - It gotta be someone that girls love. - This would have been a funny year. - Yeah, that would have helped. That would have helped me personally. - Well, yeah. - A fiance would help. - A fiance would definitely help. - A fiance Bruno. - A fiance Bruno. - Bruno. - He did it. - He had Bruno. - A fiance. - A fiance and Bruno did it. - I think they both did it twice, actually. - Yeah. - So who's the last? - Honestly, that's the thing. You talk about trouble getting somebody. Who is there that's like of that ilk? - Miley Cyrus? - Bieber. - Oh my god. - I'm going to the gas station. - Just never let them touch it, but. - I could do adjusted. - Oh yeah, well, he's always there in that conversation, Kanye, but you know, both of them didn't have-- - Kanye, in what conversation? - Who's the other one? - Chris. - Both of them. - They'll never let me. They'll never let me the one I'm touching. - Oh, the conversation people who won't do it. - No, the people who-- - The people who-- - The criteria, they won't do it. - That would be great for this, but unfortunately, you will never get that thing. - Who's the other one besides Chris? - Kanye. - Kanye. - And you can't, and then you start talking about-- - Cole justly ain't bringing the A. - Chris. - I ain't even able to buy a ticket. - Where? - Back. - Yeah, Chris had a great year, too. - He's on his second stage. - And that would make it a little bit easier for the ladies to just stomach it. - Drake. - Drake. - Drake. - Drake. - It won't even ever win. - Is that possible? - Given the whole situation. - No, that's not it. - No. - Unfortunately, that would be great, too. - See, I'm not convinced that won't-- - I'm not gonna say that. - Yeah, I'm not gonna say that. - I'm not gonna say that. - They don't seem to like each other. - And that'd be ahead of it. That'd be a hell of a-- - You're gonna like something. - They don't have to like each other, though. That'd be a hell of a hell of a hell of a-- - That'd be a hell of a hell of a-- - And Drake and Drake for the NFL, it's about dollars and cents. - A lot of people like Drake. - Drake also has the same-- - That seemed to be in the greatest mindset of doing things for less than he's valued at lately, and they don't pay you for doing that. - So-- - You're not paying me an exposure. - I got enough of that as it is. - How would y'all feel about that if y'all were artists, right? Like artists with that type of catalog and that type of oomph. Like would you do it just for the visibility and-- - Is it Drake? - No, not Drake. - Just y'all. - Oh, yes. - You're saying just people in that, in that-- - Yeah, I'm gonna have a rough day. - Absolutely. - I'd do it. - I would do it. - I would do it, but I can completely would understand if I don't own my shit, not doing it. Like for some of like Drake, who's having fights over his master ownership and his publishing ownership, whatever it may be, I'm trying to get out of that as it is. I'm not about to go boost that up by doing all my slaps. - If I'm in that boat, I take the Kendrick approach. - Yeah, you do all the-- - I'm doing my shit. - I'm gonna find a way to do some new shit. - They need my shit. - And yeah. - And it's bad. I ain't doing that no more if Majid Jordan is doing it. - You fucking, I will never do a, just come on with them. - Hold on, hold on. - Hold on, hold on. - Hold on, hold on, hold on. - I can't do that, Slap. - I wouldn't have water in the-- - Got some water on the floor. - If they have water on the floor. - I ain't gonna just do a Taylor Swift did it. She'd be recording her whole catalog and shit and so many is it. - Yeah, she did. - She did? - I said, when platinum, maybe she-- - I really, I really like Taylor Swift. - Yeah. - I wish I liked her music like I like her. - Yeah, I would do it too. - I'm using the fire man. - Yeah, Taylor would do it. - That would do it. - Taylor would do it. - That would do it. - Well, we've been talking about people who won't get paid to perform. I want to talk about some people who have been paid to perform. I don't know if y'all saw a speedy's new show, but he did interview with Tyrie's Halliburton, who was talking about his recent wedding. - I love your show, speedy. - Wow, speedy. - Speedy and forward room. I knew you had some plan when you announced that complex lead left them niggas in the dust. (laughing) - He was going. - Go speedy, man. - I tried to listen to what people are supposed to do. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, they ain't the same. But Tyrie's Halliburton was given an interview and in it, he talked about his wedding and planning for his wedding. - You know, 50 ended up performing his wedding. Just on the homie thing, but he was saying that right before that, 50 was helping him shop for artists. And he was shocked at how much artists were charging to perform at a wedding. He said, 750 bands for 30 minutes. - What the fuck, was he trying to get Beyonce? - The fuck, Rihanna? - I don't think he could get either them for that. - Well, that's part of it. - Yeah, that's not bad at all. - What the hell was you getting for 750? - 750,000, $15,000. - First of all, who do you think you were trying to get? - Tyrie's Halliburton wanted some white people there. So I'm going my list of artists. - Yeah, some rena carpenter. - Rena carpenter, rena carpenter, rena carpenter. - Show us brothers. - Yeah, exactly. - You know what, I'm a backstreet versus insane. You get one backstreet boy. (laughing) - You get the one back real insane, right? You get the joy for tone for like, (laughing) - You get back and get the biggest out. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - Yeah, you might be able to get a lesson there. - You know, I don't do that. - The Miggas are so happy. - Oh, yeah, the shit they do. - They just, they just just, they just, they just, they're all, - What the fuck am I? - How much do they pay you there? - Get in your way, man. - No, they get in my way. - Where you white boy? - Yeah, I'm with you. - Yeah, no, I'm trying to play the backstreet boy. - I'm fucking with you, boy. - They're Miggas. - You fucking with me? - Yeah, I ain't fucking with you, actually. - You get it, you get it, you get it. - He's younger too. - He's young, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's young, so. - And it's your weight, so who? - Seven out of 50. - It's a brand of carver too. - Why? - What's your own right? - Fair, fair, fair. - Oh, it's 750, yo, for a hat. - That's a lot. - That's a lot of money. - By the way, he makes $596,000 a game. - I wouldn't get fucking one. - I wouldn't get any context. - Whoever saw the text and they said, yo. - Yeah, come on, he could have, he could have. - Tyler Burton, they saw that. - They saw that. - 750. - Yeah, 750. - Yeah, 750. Is that worth a day's pay? - Yeah, yeah. - You're not cool enough for money. - No, no, no. Whoever he talked to, the 750 was day number. Like whoever he spoke to, who said, yo. Okay, you get Sabrina carpenter whatever. Oh, yeah, I could get them same thing. The same 50 was they number. Oh, yeah Yo, yo, niggas be tag you know, I hate that shit. Well, I'm on my business. We talked about it before Right, right, right, the middle man. Little man texture sauce. Yeah, like you know what do it with class? No, them niggas go What like I want three. I want 30 him niggas, but they all 30 are top of that So now you try to get 60 and I don't like shit like that. Niggas is nasty. Oh We talked about it before but that's the thing I hate that shit that middle man shit I even know some of them niggas got the pull. I hate it Got it done without that person. What's the most you'll pay the most I pay who for like for a wedding singer. We know the other answer. Oh Yeah, he's spinning on me for some of that shit. I said, oh, yeah, he had to say He get it shit off his body. Um, I'm not sure that I would Pay anybody outside of Travider travel with no tell for who and I'm sure that they would ask for that. But like the people I'm trying to invite Yeah, no Do you have like a whole lesson about the fucker playing? Come on If I had to pay if I had to pay like if Keith sweat was like, yo, I need 40 grand I might give it don't I might give it I said 50, but yeah, do you think anybody that can get six digits? Is there any guy's the fee not night night. No that they don't know my wife. She's gonna get the six digits I need to save no artist. That's getting it. I grow already see the bulls that you got going on there I'm saying yo Casey and Jojo come. They're gonna do all my life Yeah, there you go. Oh Casey and Jojo want to come then I'll go back to my old hood my old stomping Some of that shit Pick up some stuff for my boys. Yeah, I mean I feel like if I invited black eyepiece to do something that they were going to be able to do some crack - That's all I'm saying why no at least to it now three of them You know I mean like that's they way I'm like saying like I'm not gonna do it unless you give me this I don't think you gonna give me this if you do I'll do it I read sweating was around the same time is our cocoa Jones and Donovan bitches So all of the pictures and shit was getting released at the same time It looked like all of the fire axe was over there. So now you want me to miss the one I want to go to which led me Which led me to wedding shaming Halibird and shit It puts me in awkward spot, but I'm down the shame of wedding really yeah Yes, actually you like shaming. I'm about to say I really enjoy shaming away. You enjoy when you go places Period, oh not to the participants not to the people that got married like to my family and my friends and the audience If your wedding is bad, I feel like somebody should Reserve the right to say because how many days you your wedding day is a day that you supposed to step if you didn't step or if it ain't right Or the food is nasty if the food is nasty at your wedding or the way time if it's a long way time between that little intermission time After the wedding and reset nod dog. No wedding could be bad food. I think I disagree It's too hot at your wedding. Yes, you're getting clowns if open bars to you. We can't get if it's crowded and you can't You're getting a bullshit at the bar. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think No, you don't get a pass. The DJs good and the drinks are free. You're not getting a pass on the food drinks and music is the most I'm sure you almost ain't get a pass for food and the little shindig we showed up for your shit We like eight more food good That was fine, but if it wasn't And that's just on the regular kick-back No, your food got to be good though, especially at a wedding. Sorry. Hey, what did you pay for? What did you pay for right? I'm gonna be able to tell about a fool would you go give me some fucking roast beef or something. I did you I did you give me a plate I'm talking some roast beef and some Sock attack. What's that other shit? I never had that one That's Virginia boy Blime of beans and what in the blender. I have a beans corn. Oh, but all right. Oh, that's ladies. Yeah, that's lady food Bar, did you eat it your way? Did I eat? No, not really a little bit a little bit. I drank people kind of forced me to a little bit Thank God. Yeah, we need to be in Popeye's like - I ain't really eat it. Bar's wedding. Neither. I had a little plate But I meant to eat more bar's wedding was so much fun It was too little. It was too funny. It was too much. Like how long? Days. Yeah, it's a couple days Who you're vying to you went in the sink man will downing Rochelle for real. So is it like a show? I'm trying to put you to add them. I'm trying to pitch it. How does it? How are you placing it? You just quit it. Is it? You're not that. I'm just old. You're not that. I'm just old and now but a voice of an angel. Yes, but is it like a CC wine? Is that's the girl right? Yes. Yeah, BB could stay home BB could stay home. She's CC could come to the bed to the park What and pray and pray and pray over us. That's all we're doing at the bachelor's Maxwell chemistry tank keep sweat One of boys to men ain't got to be all four of them So is it like, I want performances in my shit. Like I don't want no One they come for you Can you let him or what fuck that is Jesse Powell Rest the piece of Jesse Powell. Wait, is that no that is skinny left for you is not Jesse Powell for you is can you let him or you are don't you two don't ever try to correct me One rb again, please. Thank you. Jesse Powell is you It was the key that's why I didn't recognize the way your tongue the way you say and if I got keeps wet Did then I'm a pay for SG wait, which one is he he's S L. I've a pay for LG now if keeps wet says I'll come by the mighty can't What do you do? Oh, shit, I'm on he's coming to my wedding. Oh, yeah, you can't pay for LG G is with G Oh, yeah rest the piece. Oh, that's a piece, too. But what do you do? I'm on it. I'm on he's on that list. I'm on it before him I ain't coming on you know you got make choices. I Scheduled me different time I Didn't say I'm standing with my man. He said you can't come to halftop. That's not what I said He said you're scared for them at different times. Yeah, keep sweat. Maybe got to come later, but I'm gonna need You yeah, I need a little bit of that and I've been like a rapper. She performing once you've been anywhere. I think about it I don't know about that. No I don't rapper could do it would be fly. Who would you pick? Oh, hold you. Oh, that'd be amazing You get old cool. Yeah, I don't think you could get it. Oh cool, but yeah, if you get old cool, yeah I'm gonna spin on Mark Friday. I know. I'm gonna spin on Mark I gotta go give me a penny paper do I have a penny mouth? No, you know No, I got them now cuz fucking kids is in here. I don't know Pad I put school back. I'm so corny with kids in the house. You got to say me during I'm coming in I don't pick it up. I'm that guy. Yeah, it's so cool. I need to see kids All of y'all come here. Who didn't push this sharing? Oh, I have a turn The light switch so you wonder y'all forgot to push the chair and all y'all come Yeah, so I do want to ask y'all about a baby show What's up? How many people watch your baby shower? How much did it cost because I'm having this baby shower conversation in miles And my idea of a baby shower and her idea is too totally different things Her idea sounds like some type of badie baby shower Yeah, and I knew we was getting off to the wrong foot when she said no It should definitely be a little more intimate than your birthday dinner was a little more intimate You should be like New Jack city That let me know we was in so I'm like how many how many people you want there? She's like, oh, I'm what I mean between all your friends all the guys from the pond. I'm like, wait, what? I'm like, wait, you want to party you want to feed all of these people, too, right? Well the last baby shower you say it's a new era. Yeah, we're not supposed to Has changed I like it when we didn't have to go to the baby - That shit is changed. - They got in full dead and people dead. - That shit is changed. - I probably had a bottle of juice. - You get some wreck, and baby said he might not go wreck. - You got me a job with. - Nothing I get to know. - Y'all know y'all. - Some things came and they didn't damage y'all. - You had a hundred people at your baby shop. - Oh, no. - Coastal. - You had like 50. - You had a lot of people. - You had 50? - Was it all her people? - It was women. It wasn't, it was, - Yeah, that could be your people. - That could be your people's women. (laughing) - Oh, shit, that ain't no one. - That sounds city sounds, sicko, it's a lot. - How many of you think I'm gonna be at your joint? - It's chicken, I'm telling you it'll be like the tunnel. - I'm telling you now it's gonna be at bug 50. - I'm guaranteeing you. - Yeah, I'm guaranteeing you. - A hundred and 50 people. (laughing) - So then you need a venue for a hundred and 50 people. - Yeah. - You do. - Then you do. - DJs, you do. - DJs, you do. - You need DJs. - And you need decorations that don't look light and slim for a hundred, like DJs. - DJs, like DJs. - You need a DJ, you need alcohol, you need a thing. - Yeah. - It's a part of it. - You need a DJ, you need all of that. - These kind of baby showers is like, it does not sound like a good thing. - That's what they are. - Literally, they're adult parties. - Yeah, it's correct. - You gotta do it right. - It's a adult parties for the baby that you haven't, that you didn't have yet. - Well, it's a adult parties where people come and bring gifts and shit for a baby that you don't have yet. - It's a lot of support. - This life shit is so interesting, because you just, without even being on Earth yet, you just have subscribed to so much shit that falls through. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - This is not, this is absolutely, and the way she get it off, the way she get it off is, well, if I, this was my 40th birthday coming up, and that's a big deal for me. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I'm pregnant. So we're not really doing anything for my 40th birthday. - Okay. - Yeah, the baby shower work out. - Then you, then you lucky. - Yeah, yeah. - Nah, she got you. - And my whole 40th birthday. - That makes a lot of sense. She got you. - Yeah, you got you, the second of drifts gets in there. - All right. - My fuck starts swimming. - Yo. - Yo. - What, what's the drip getting in there? - Boy, it's a wrap. - Say goodbye. Anyway, bundle a joy on the way. - We need your last one. - Can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait. So birthday party number two, here we go. - That's right. - For a baby shower. - That's right. - Can we send some prayers up real quick to Lionel Richie? Well, since we've been on the air, he was rushed to the hospital, had another, for the second time in a couple months, heart issue, he's had a major heart procedure. They canceled three stops on the tour today, with the earth, wind, and fire. Hopefully, he just stopped the tour. - Yeah, you know what, man. All right, let's do the praying shift first. - Yeah, so just sending prayers to Lionel Richie, hope he does well, I hope he recovers. - Prayers. - Prayers up. - My, the sources so far from the hospital say the surgery went well. - Okay. - You got the sources at the hospital? - No, not my sources. The sources, they reported. Yeah, no, I've been, I've just been reading up on it and not saying anything. Since we've been here, he's been in, had the procedure. - Yes, yes, yes, yes. - Yes, yes, yes. (laughing) - I heard all of that. - Yes, yes. - Word. - From LMS. They did. (laughing) - That's still so funny. - Prayers up. - Prayers up, prayers up. - For Lionel Richie, man. We love you, we hope everything is all right. - They say Jackson Dirt, those are the seasons. - But before we get there, let's not leave this line to receive, see, leave this gentleman. Lionel Richie, we pray in Femme and in the hospital. And that should be a sign of Earth, Wind, and Fire. - Yo, are you fucking crazy to sit down? It's over? What, shut the fuck up? - Hey, I like September, like the next man. But, it's coming, it's coming time. Yo, we just went through this gladdest night. - Yeah. - That old white dude that the white people kept having, tried out to even though he was on his deathbed. I'm not with the older ex just to, hey, did somebody else recently say, oh, that was gladdest night people that came out and said, yo, I think that her husband is forcing her to be on the road and take this money and it's against the, it's against what's best for her and her health. I'm not with people 80 and 85 and up being on tour. I'm not, I'm not. - I'm not. - I stopped touring my 30s, that was a lot. I'm not, no, sorry, I don't care how much you try to accommodate somebody, that tour is strenuous. It is a lot, getting people on the road, city to city, diet different, living different, hotels is different, germs, germs, germs, fans, fans, and no, how no, how no. Stevie Wonder too, but his price is making make sense. 7,000 a pop. Hey, I'm getting my, I'm getting my grandma out there too. - 7,000 a pop. - My mom's keep telling me. - Do you want to do the tickets? It's crazy and it's awesome. - 7,000 a seat for Stevie Wonder. - And listen, it's a lot of seats, sir. - There's a lot of seats in MSG. - You think people won't pay that? - Yeah, sold out. - I'm looking on the second day market. I was trying to find some, just what? It was 6,000 for like, no, it was maybe 12,000 front rows. It was something crazy. I was trying to stay on the floor and it was like thousands and thousands, just to be not upstairs. - Am I wrong if I put my mother in the nose, please? - No. - Okay, Stevie, no, I don't think so. - All right, go ahead for Stevie. - Woo, my man. - That's like, hold, it's like September. - I told you man, in the maze of liet, like, talk to the uncle here. - No, no bleed the ladder. - That's what he thought you was saying, I did you say that too? - No, sorry. - So I'm the Stevie Wonder show, guys. - Sorry. - Sorry. - Sorry. - You think it's a so cold thing? - I really do, I really do this with you, man. But, one more serious thing that I think we should talk about. - Oh, come on, Joe, it has to happen. - All right, come on. - The grand jury came back. - Oh, yeah. - For Nolan Wells, and the grand jury said that it did not find any wrongdoing. They say that they're going to rule it basically drowning, that he died from drowning. It's called a diagnosis of exclusion. They're basically saying, we can't prove anything else. And so, by virtue of not being able to prove anything else, Rockwell, what the. - Yeah, this becomes, this becomes it. And it's disappointing, it's heartbreaking in some ways for so many people trying to find the name of the ruling. It's a special kind of ruling, but basically they said no. They said no. It's like a no-time bill, no-something bill. But. - There's no way to do like an independent. - They did. - They did. - They did. - Yeah. - Eventually spent one of the hiccups was the original autopsy removed his throat. - Right? - Yeah. - And so, people are saying that that. - They fucked it up. - Yeah. - That could have played a real big part. - It isn't last. - And they were not finding a real cause of death. They took his throat out. So by the time they shipped the body, because people paid for the independent autopsy, but when they got the body to wherever it was, it was lacking a throat. - Now, according to the latest reports from the prosecutor and from the grand jury, they eventually did return the full body parts. I'm not saying it's true, but I just want to report that they did say that. - Okay. - I am skeptical of that. And if it happened, I don't know what it means to get it a week later or two. I don't know enough about it. - Well, you could have, like, the damage that was inflicted or something might not have been. I don't know. You know, it's not our area, but. Here's the other thing we know, it's a no-true bill is what it's called, a no-true bill. The other thing is, there's still blood loss. There's still blood-forced trauma in the back of his head and his neck, that nobody has explained. Nobody, in the prosecutor's office, the DA's office, nobody has explained this. All they keep saying is there's no proof, there's no proof, there's no proof, but there's so much doubt, I don't understand why they're so quick to close this case. The whole thing was, let's keep this case open until we figure something out. Let's get answers for why he didn't have a cell phone. Let's get answers for why he went back by himself. Let's get answers for why he had the bruises. And the grand jury was basically like, he went back because he wanted to go back, there's nothing wrong with that. People drowned. That's not unusual. They, everything that happened, they basically said there's no evidence. - File play. - A foul play. - The truth is, there's no evidence of it, but part of it. - Absence of evidence. - I'm looking for it. - No, we have a phone conversation saying, no, wake up. - Right. - So, he was dolo by himself when he drowned? - And shit, you don't make sense. - Or did he lose consciousness when he was with Joel? - Right. - Like, it's a bunch of. Shit. - Yeah. - And like I said, I don't know what happened. - I don't know what happened. - But I don't think they know what happened either. - It's terrible. - And I don't understand why people are so fast to say, nothing happened versus looking. And that's where, as you all said, at the onset of this, that's where the Mississippi part comes in. - Mm. - Lot of Mississippi people be missing. - Yeah. - Lot of Mississippi people get hanged. Lots of Mississippi people. - Lots of Mississippi people. - Yeah. And not just Mississippi, but Mississippi, for sure, in the south in general, when it comes to Black folk, and I get really, really skeptical, I get really wary, I get really scared. And all I keep thinking about is this poor, and he's a child. - He's a child. - Yeah, this poor child. - Yeah, he's a child. - This poor child's family. - Because they're asking for answers. They're not satisfied with this. They've made a statement today. Benjamin Crump, their attorney, made a statement, Reverend Sharpe, their made a statement. And they're all saying the same thing. How do you answer all this unanswerable stuff for unanswered stuff? Number one, and number two, why are you in such a hurry to close the case? So just wanted to put that out there. It's something we need to think about. One more thing we need to think about is to chose outside for a second. We can get this off. - Watch truck TV. - Donald Trump launched truck TV yesterday. - He's such a scammer. - After. - After. - Right, after. Ben CNN, MSNOW, and political from the White House, from the press room. And shout out to all the other press outs. Now as I said, we're not going to show them. Yeah, they stood with them, even Fox was like, "Yo, that was crazy." There's limits, like we can't stand here for this shit. We're not going to show up, we're not going to cover, he had like two events here, I shouldn't include them, I'm Donnie Meaton. I'm not covering none of it until they're back on. But Trump, at the same time that he basically closed the door to the White House press room to those outlets saying that they put out too much fake news. At the same time, he launched his Trump TV. Gryft. Yo. Gryfter. Trump TV is like, they say it's old Trump administration footage that they're going to put up on through the YouTube channel and through these other places. For $20, right? Yeah. But it feels like you know what this is. State TV. Exactly what this is. It feels like the shit we used to joke about, Kim Jong Un and Kim Jong Elaboy. Yes. Exactly the same thing. If you were to make like a movie or like a caricature of what the Trump administration would be for years from now, eight years from now at the start, this would it would be. It would be close. Kicking out the news outlets, making Trump TV, you got his own money, you got his own, I mean, they could all of a shit, he's like, "My mind meant after him, he wants bridges and railroad, he got a signature on money." Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's great. Man, he thinks it's different. It's it's ill, yo. I don't want to make this an overly political episode. I just want to say, this shit is not a fire drill. No. The world is on fire, we need to do something about it. So please pay attention, vote appropriately, act accordingly, organizing appropriately, because Trump TV is just a start. This is, yes. Just make me think he's a homeboy, might not be leaving. I said, "Vam." Yo, so when y'all see all this, does it make you reconsider? Do you think it makes the person up here who voted for Trump reconsider? Well, we don't know who the person is. Do you reconsider? Do you reconsider? It would be. I showed my vote. But, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to put y'all out there. So I won't, I won't, I won't say anything. I'm not, I'm not for that, I'm not for that, I'm not for that. Nobody did that, right? They did! It's just a talking point that you've been running away, there was no proof. Nobody came out at all. Nah, that shit is, that shit is, you know what? I'll leave it alone. There's no, they can't do whatever he wants. We know what's going on. It should be, he's, he's, he's won't even fake it, and get the, I voted stickers. Like, that's how I know Mark. It's like, nigga, they ain't voting up here. They ain't nobody voted for nobody. I can't think of a vote. I don't vote. Y'all got some bad news for, at least one of y'all. It's now a felony in Florida to have fake pastos. Wait, what? What the God did? I'll tell you one thing. If that law were to hit New Jersey, you niggas would be homeless. That's why I'm worried for y'all. It's coming to show fake pastos to-- Oh, you know the game up here. Yes, you know that was the game? You know in New Jersey, ain't got to cover your mouth. We know you've been there. You ain't got to cover your mouth. We know what time it is, man, but you know the game. To see if he ends or to take the-- 95. I'm bored now with that shit. You think any of your tennis did it to you? I don't take pastos. He don't even look. That's how the nigga get no one. He only don't pay stuff. I know. And now I'm trying to conjure up some fake paste though. I should be able to watch the most. You signed a waiver saying that you give them permission to contact the IRS directly to verify your income. There's a three Noah. I'm saying, but I'm saying, but I'm talking about back in the day, Niggas was getting it off crazy. Now, today the scammers are so up that they implement all. So how the shit going on? Yeah, all the scammers. They can't accept submissions. Yeah, we want to see you check. We want to know. No, no, no, we need to contact the bank directly. That too. They want to see the shit. Yeah, they want to see the shit. We can't accept it from you. VOD scammers. Scammers. Scammers. Well, I know Niggas. I got caught. Man. There's a lot of landlords in Florida. It's going to be mad at shit, especially like in Miami. Also, my problem with this just being silly is what y'all see as the person accepting the application and what y'all think I can and can't afford when you see my check is different than what I think I can afford during my check is the same way when I try to get my first Mercedes. Same shit. They think it's a, but you're a little 40 grand angle and cut it. I was like, hey, I got five, six hundred a month, seven hundred a month. Like, how much I need to make the cup of my 27 hundred dollars a month? It's a part of it, too. It's a percentage. Yeah, that's fucked up. Presentation. Wait, you spent, spending 20, you should have spent 27 hundred a month? And what? And what? I said rent, not the car. Oh. Right. I was like, not the car. But I've made, I've made really stupid car decisions. It's 27 hundred dollar car notes. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but if you make 40,000 ass classes and I'm fucking ass class, I'm driving, I know the notes on them. I'm just ain't cheap, nigga. Oh, people still do notes. I know the notes. Talk heavy. Talk heavy. Is your pay for? Mm-hmm. Is your pay for? I can't. That's my problem with the academic world. When does that come up? When do they get to, you know, such a broke ass stuff. When they do the shack on me, they can't do that to Mark. No, they can't. I'm on academic stuff. I'm like, do it. Mark's pears. My professors. They can't play or work like that. You only got a master? That's it? K-pop? I mean, you were looking a little shaky at first. No, it wasn't. That's how it should start. I mean, you too. Looking a little shaky. Before you got the campus, it was a little, a little log attack. And the car's in house. What do you know? The lighting was back. Yeah, the lighting was free. He had the webcam. Here's had a cell phone up there. He had the camera on the front face. Hey, how you doing, y'all? That's Mark with my-- oh, hold on. My service is fucked up. Give me a second. You might, but-- Now, you can tell. Before we get to it, it was looking crazy. A lot of Mark's pears are struggling. And I do think it's big of him to not come one year and point it at. And that's fire. Yeah. That's fire. A lot of y'all have been losing gigs. I see it. I don't say it neither. Why do you think they're losing them, Mark? I have no idea what he's talking about. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. I don't know. I shit with them. With this background. With the grass? With the grass background. And they crim. [LAUGHTER] Where you at? Oh, no, it's still funny. Where you at, my son? Here. Here. Here, this show was at his best when we do this. Hey, listen. Yeah, I had to fix your cameras, y'all. That's where we could tell you fucked up. I've been using the motherfucking camera from TikTok. Oh, yeah. Let me try and put the snapchat. It feels like we're right here on the laptop. Yeah. Come on, y'all. They be using the bad bitch light stick. Yeah. Yeah. A camera in lighting does a lot. It does. It does a lot. You've got to fix that, y'all. Then your mics. Then they can mark it. He'd be invested. Look at that shit. He got a apartment. He got a new crib. He got a lighter team. Follow a step. Oh, yeah, Niggas came up. One of them I like, y'all. Oh, yeah, Niggas came out to defend your man when that shit was going on with me and him. Y'all. Look. Look at y'all. Niggas recorded for the car. Hey, it's just me. How are you? Give me a second. Give me a second. What are you doing? Give me a second. Y'all. Why are you trying to? Niggas said, give me a second. I gotta call him. Give me a second. You know I'm live. Why are you calling him? Oh, that shit. I don't know, man. He got nothing to say. He did that by another you niggas to the crib. It's not his house. Don't let him lie to you. Oh, I'm bringing Niggas to my crib. No. He has a hole off the spot. And I think he should put some you niggas on. For all that shit I did. He has some educated niggas. That's a little kickback. That's the thing. That's the thing. I'm serious. I'm serious. That kickback was when I realized I wasn't smart. Yeah. I didn't even allow to interact with them. I thought I was smart. I thought black ass is dead. I thought I was smart my whole life. Until I walked in, Mark. Really? Yes. Yes. But make you feel that phrase. The book. What was the topic? I mean, if you say a group of them, what was the topic? Books. Books, man. What was it to these people? They had books in their hands. They talked about books. To the edge. This one there. They were reading together. It was like a fucking reading surface. You had niggas reading. That's fine. No. I'm going to play back. You go throw a shot at me. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's all Joe today. Why is it me again? Oh, yeah. He was using your brother. I was there. I had too much fun. I had too much fun. I did. I did. I did. I did. I was there. I had too much fun. What was it about the time? You know, it's all fuzzy. No, it's all fuzzy. He's trying to rush through that shit, but he's so parsed with his fingers out there. Actually, no, nigga. No, we got our e-clips. We ain't been invited to another market. Not at all. Not at all. I haven't had anything. I was going to do a Juneteenth party, but we ended up not because it's so much is going on, but I think we'll do another thing. It's Thanksgiving. We could friends give me it. We have a wedding in the summer, like a celebration. We did have a wedding. We literally invited 20 people. Oh God, that's the other fight. She's talking about because it's Thanksgiving, and she's eight months. She can't cook. Oh, yeah, no. We're not playing. No, no. Go on the phone. I got you. Go on right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not doing that, boy. I saw Joe. Come on right now. I can't hear how you feel about that, Joe. We're not doing that. Hey, your food is good. Very good. Shout out to your food, girl. We love you. You can't do that to us. The wings. You're the nigga for the wings. Yo, nigga. The wings. The nigga babysat the wings. He said, that's your second one, boy. He took it out my plate. You never do the wings. First of all, if she's saying you can't cook, then you can't cook. You're eight months pregnant. You ain't got to do shit. Yeah, get shut up. We're supposed to put food. I was just thinking, maybe you should just, maybe you just have to take your time. Like, maybe not. Just slowly. Like, slow cooking. Like, slow cooking. Like, slow cooking. Yeah. Yeah. Or let me get you yourself. That's what you do every year. You prepped the food the night before. Maybe you got it. Two days before. You know, we'll find more money to spend. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, baby. Shout out. It's your gonna be lit, son. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. It's gonna be lit. It's gonna be lit. Farks doing it right. You're okay. I ain't going. Hey, man. You have a baby. You just signed up. I'm fucked. Oh my lord. Jesus, anyway. Are you excited? Yeah. Are you excited? How are you feeling? Is it a lot of pressure? Because, you know, you're doing a lot, no. And you're doing good. You're doing good. I know you don't like to talk to your niggas. But, you know, we can see it. We've been around you for a couple of years. The niggas have been around you longer. But you're doing good. I'm happy. We killing this little shit. That shit is blind. That's important. That's important. Especially while she's pregnant. That's important. No, no, no. I got to give her all the props in the world. There's been my smoothness pregnancy. I've ever been a part of that. That's fine. This has been the best. That's fine. Yeah. She's absolutely old in pregnancy now. She's killing that shit. That's fine. She is. Now the baby's kicking her ass. Cravings? She's eating shit that she don't be eating. But she got you like, she had you with the two, three, and one. And I need this. You got to go get it right now. And don't take too long. Don't breathe. We got to end the pod. So I don't even want to. Okay. I don't even want to respond. All right. To that. I answered it because. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. Don't want one thing real quick though. Don't want one thing real quick. Offer the cravings stuff because I get it. Yes. It's a thing. Yeah. But so the fancy school that her daughter's in. They're doing a gala. Sure. Like a masquerade gala. Okay. That stupid me. I thought it was for the kids. They usually are. I don't think that's weird. Yeah, it's not three all is what a parents at this school at this fancy school There's a they're doing a masquerade gala. Uh-huh, and there's it's tiered. So there's three tiers. Okay. Oh, oh, oh boy Here's the $5,000 tier. Oh, oh got it. That's the low one. That's a bit that's broke you get you a crate to sit on and some rich crackers There's the $10,000 tier and there's the $15,000 tier. Sure the $10,000 tier was sold out So this is a follow fitting So it's five or 15 you can't you can't do a can't be and a 10 and a 10 one sold out no, no, so this so this is tricky listen Let's listen to me. Don't listen to this this could tricky a little bit. So no, it doesn't so we pulled so we pulled it up this shit is at Some fancy smancy social club Big-time musical DJ musical appearances. Uh-huh. There's a cigar room There's a cigar lounge here like they have mad fly adult shit This cigar lounge is what told me this is not for kids and the time of the event because it's the late night of it Mm-hmm, and this is people dressing up So I was like listen whether you whether you go or not You hear me whether you go in a mm-hmm. You do need to pay the $5,000 Even if you don't go you got to give them five grand She's like why Like you a new kid in a new school. That's why you can first first event They they donating you notice as a fancy smancy you got to give them the five. What's the money go to school? PTO. No, it goes it goes to the school is this fancy smancy school. We fundraising for the school We know what type of parents is here. Y'all know how we on we order and caviar for lunch for these kids. Y'all know it, so So now she's convinced me somehow it sounds so fly when I read it now then now I'm thinking about going you should go You should go. You absolutely should go on it was ain't You should go I'm not even 15 I'm going to go smokers. You should go and stop Cory. Shut your ass up. Cory. Come on Are you laughing? I caught if I'm you I go really. Yeah, absolutely to network with other parents. Yes And you knew and your kid is new here. Yeah, you want a hundred percent go Stop it. Stop it. Cory. Yes And as I'm saying you don't want to put your kid like more You don't want your kid on a $5,000 tier in that school and as a new kid Cory five, Cory. Shut the fuck up. So then she said well at this tier we get four tickets. Who would we bring? It's fine. I think it's what friends of ours will we bring? None. I don't have no friends That I want that I'm about to bring to the she she foo foo parenting network Now listen for my birthday dinner. I did buy two suits So I got a mean Mean all black suit to step. There you go. Let's get it. Let's get it step However, you should step you don't know about kicking it with all these parents Maybe some cool parents and yeah, and that's that's not necessarily you find it now You find it my my my like it's a you saying barely. It's a fancy It's like fancy school. There's always cool pairs in there But the most one but you but you got to find the one or two there are yeah, but you Can we have a family now that you live in with y'all building the house in a community when you're in a community Nigger you want to be a part of the community. Yes. So it's that's the fact your kids are gonna be playing with these kids Your kids are gonna be hanging. Listen to the niggas like Cory niggas Wait like I don't hear your kids might go to school with these kids for the next 10 15 20 years like It's a good point and we're we're at it ain't nothing but other People in the culture over there Like All right, I'm a golden you should go. Y'all You're gonna know some people in there, but they should go Joe. So now we got the school mask grace Cater thanks. Give it because you got to think that the babies the parents that paying the 15,000 a golden It's Christmas. It's in a certain leaf. Oh, put and what's the what's the push trip? Maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe yeah, baby Maybe mom, you got a busy fall man. That's all. Yeah, that's all expensive. Oh, like shit fourth quarter Fourth quarter and that's what Christmas. That's when you turn. Oh shit in Christmas. New years. Got to have some got to some for New Year New Year's too before quarter turn up That's when they could go hiking by itself. Yeah No, that's what the white people do. That's the what they call the white people to go worst ask them all divorce I'm divorced now dude. I have to go by myself and just There's no other way for dad to say you know what enough Nope, that's a dad way of doing it. It's just We almost made it. We almost made it. I'll never see a nigga laying on the sidewalk. They what could have drove him I'm gonna go this shit Three said to go. I'm going. You should go. You should go. Just go three said to go. God damn it I think we did it. Look where he's still laughing. We're the core of it. He's so much help man. Ain't no helping Corey man He needs a lot of help. No, I'm doing all I shit. I got to find two people to bring so we could talk shit No flipping Mona Boy turn that shit upside down Park tomorrow and you'll have somebody to talk to you and have a blast Rob being their bag and be good at night I'm going. I'm going. I'm taking pictures. I'm telling you I'm taking pictures like that and I'm going to record early you're gonna enjoy you gonna come back and be like I'm not mad at trying new things is definitely different from me, so I'll give it a go It's gonna be my one of it for the year. I tell you that they've been not tried to try to shit again in the winter No, it's great. Winter winter winter winter winter ball You got the winter ball. Yeah, you got the winter ball. Let's say I'll get these balls The winter ball Thank you be looking good Yo, man, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there and till the next time we bid you a new farewell Audio cerebral d'Archie I still have east to our watch so long. Goodbye. We're simple head novel suffice Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass So let's make this one last as if it's all we have Let's but certainly not least The baddies are insecure to stagnant women want to travel when the clothes Monday women want you to teach them things Grab you a towel and all you might need it Watch in the day What y'all on his week what y'all on his week working work work work work work work What's the club man you want to the strip club Escape with strip club. Streaming in Atlanta. You going down there? When you're doing it. I'm Saturday. This Saturday. This Saturday. Make sure y'all check that out 24 hour stream in Atlanta Right in front of the strip club. You know, no time. It is inside. Oh, inside. I don't know what you're fucking. Oh, I think it's gonna be out I didn't even think it Order the strip club. I thought he was gonna be outside of it starting shit. No, I'm talking to the strippers Me okay, yeah to that y'all I'm definitely gonna shout y'all call you free y'all call me call it is to Let's mail money. Let's court case What are my people stars have me thinking she invented face time Steve y'all they can't stay afloat We're too different, but you will need an engine nerve. You know, no rap is just be fine. I ain't never even been in a bullet Few dollars niggas want to get him with the chrome like rock and I'm waiting for him when they get home like beside How to keep him in a stole the hell's kitchen that just make a mad real mad mel All the bullshit by any means kill them all hanging from the ceiling using skinny jeans For aspiring rappers and one of pop-a-kind for the families of Sean Bell Oscar grand nigger your heat wave is almost up Playing for keepsake you almost struck so when you talk about show when you've done being critical say the pain of what's wild Out there we'll be back same time same place this weekend we got a great guest coming up for y'all Oh, man without the guitars. Yeah, oh, it's fine. No Crazy I don't know what you play. I don't know what that is either. I ain't them either. Oh, that's a little more like a nine minutes Yeah, come on now, and this is the way it's both the head man Like I would say we got a great guess lined up for y'all man. You're really gonna enjoy this Oh Until next time y'all we down out there be safe Remember the goal is to make it home the goal is to make it home and rest in peace on your bling just cuz you're always on my mind (upbeat music) - Yeah, we ain't getting to them pushin' tea leaks. (upbeat music) - There's some, and they have real leaks. - Ah, there's the leaks. - Hey, old leaks, it's not like a real, real leak. But there was some science behind the leaks. (upbeat music) I think it's always try to act like they don't see the science. It's shit goin' on. (laughing) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (laughing) - Now it's a taggy. - Where else, where else Joey? The jam's going so crazy. (upbeat music) - Everyone, it's no nuts. (upbeat music) - Hey, hey. ♪ JVP, JVP ♪ ♪ Where would you be without the JVP? ♪ - If you think I'm new, put 'em out on the talk. Got down on them. (upbeat music)

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Key Points:

  1. The podcast hosts share personal anecdotes about marital dynamics, including concerns over lack of communication, missing calls, and perceived emotional distance during relationships.
  2. They highlight a recurring theme of trust and loyalty, with some expressing frustration over inconsistent behavior and the need for accountability in relationships.
  3. The discussion shifts to broader cultural and societal observations, including how media portrayals of violence and crime are framed differently based on race and background, and the importance of environmental context in understanding behavior.

Summary:

The podcast features a mix of personal storytelling and cultural commentary. Hosts discuss intimate relationship dynamics, such as the importance of nighttime check-ins, emotional neglect, and trust issues, emphasizing that consistent communication and mutual respect are vital for healthy partnerships. They share anecdotes about missed calls, emotional distance, and moments of betrayal, illustrating how small behavioral shifts can signal deeper issues.

The conversation expands into broader social themes, including how societal narratives around violence and crime differ by race, with a focus on how environmental factors—like trauma and abuse—shape individuals’ actions. One prominent example is the DC sniper case, where the hosts reflect on how a lack of urgency in detection highlights systemic failures. The discussion also touches on music and legacy, particularly debates over Usher and Chris Brown’s status in R&B, with the hosts acknowledging both artists' influence while emphasizing consistency and impact.

Ultimately, the episode blends personal experience with social insight, advocating for empathy, accountability, and understanding in both relationships and societal discourse. While presented as entertainment, the content reflects real emotional and cultural tensions that resonate with listeners.

FAQs

The podcast emphasizes that consistent communication, especially a nightly check-in, strengthens trust and helps prevent misunderstandings. It highlights that not checking in can cause concern and suspicion, and that open, honest conversations are vital for a healthy relationship.

Yes, it suggests that a nightly call before bed is a positive indicator of a strong, respectful relationship. It's presented as a traditional way to maintain emotional connection and ensure both partners feel valued and connected.

The podcast notes that a wife not calling after a night away can be a cause for concern, especially if it's inconsistent. It suggests that such behavior may indicate emotional distance or a lack of commitment, and it's important to address it through open communication.

The podcast presents the content as fictional and for entertainment purposes only. It explicitly states that no real events, personal details, or relationships are being exposed or shared.

The podcast views communication as essential in preventing marital issues. It argues that clear, regular communication—especially about emotions and daily experiences—helps build trust and reduces the risk of misunderstandings or conflict.

Yes, it references a situation where a person felt neglected when their wife stopped calling at night, leading to anxiety and suspicion. This is used as an example of how inconsistent communication can harm trust in a relationship.

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