Episode 956 | "WAR OF THE JOURNALISTS"

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. Yo, he's about to hit go. I hit go. He hit go. Yeah, but that just applied to the people it applied to. I'm always on go. Joe, bullshit. I'm always on go. Ain't nothing I need a camera off to say. Ain't nothing I need a camera on to say. I just say it, and whatever's happening is going to happen. Yo, niggas like you can't even do a smirk while I'm doing my monologue. Niggas like you can't even a kiki, chuckle to the side. Kiki, chuckle, chuckle, all of it. Thanos is talking. All of it, nigga. The fuck you talking about? What's up? Yeah. You and Mark can't squash nothing. I'm going to try. Now, let's get to that. So, we're going to beef center squash. Yeah, let's get to that. People that kept off you. Talking in subs. You ain't keep nobody off me. Kept all them Irvington niggas off me. You ain't keep not a soul off me. They probably told y'all something, and you probably believe that y'all ain't keep a soul off me. I roam all over comfortably. Except certain Essex County cities. Extremely comfortably. Extremely comfortable. I know. You know what? Security? That's you scared of them Irvington niggas. Freeze, why you keep laughing? I'm getting offended by you laughing. Freeze was at Irvington this weekend. What you talking about? Don't project on me. In the hood. In the hood. How you niggas move around and I move around ain't the same. Now, listen. I started this pod prepared to send shots at other niggas, but if we want to make this internal, I'm down. Damn, World War III is spreading internally? Well, they getting me hype out there. They are getting me hype out there. Yeah, yeah. They getting me hype. I've been home all day trying to figure out somebody to fire at. Everybody's on go. Wayno's on go. Wayno, we absolutely love you. I'm sorry about your loss. Rest in peace to your mother. Rest in peace. It's so unfortunate when you're going through real life shit and then bullshit come right across the plate, right to your table. Like how you addressed it. Hey, by addressing shit, I want to address some shit. I want to address, I ain't got nothing. I don't have nothing. It's a regular pod. I don't, yeah, but my problem, I'm too long tenured. That's what I realized watching all these niggas. And we're going to start. We're going to start the show. I'm too long tenured. So like when Rob Markman jump into the fray, I look at Rob. I'll be like, oh shit, look at Rob, man. That's Rob from motherfucking G's. He used to run around. Wayno getting out like, oh shit, man. This is my man from motherfucking da, da, da, da. Act like I have a history with everybody that's. Mark? Yeah. Mark. Yeah, you in it too, nigga? Yeah, I love it. Everybody's in it. Steve and A, I ain't really vibing with him, but still I see him. Oh, man, come on. Look, he in the fray got the journalists. Yeah. Pissed off. Pablo came up here. Pablo's a lot going on. Come on, man. It's all out war. It's war of the journalists. It is. War. I love it. Let's go. What's up? I wish I could jump in. I want to jump in. This is your bag. Yo, if everybody on go, I want to get on go too. I don't have nobody to get on fucking go with. Say less. I got you. Before this episode is over, maybe I'll figure it out. Maybe I'll figure it out. I can't. I'm in a good space. That's the problem too. In a good space. You can't battle with fucking miscellaneous ops and life. That's in your 40s. I concur. I'm working. The filter on my fridge ain't working. I bought a new filter. That's what you know you all can get. I ain't got time for these bitch ass niggas, corny ass niggas. My ice is tasting funny. And my aquaponic is getting diluted with some dark matter. I hit Amazon, bought a new one. I put it up in there. Ain't solve a goddamn thing, man. I can't buy the Amazon shit. You got to get the official shits. No, they got them on Amazon. No, the official shits is on Amazon. It's a real sub-zero filter. The brand. Yeah, brand name. There'll be a lot of knockoffs over there too now. Huh? There'll be a lot of knockoffs. Oh, no, I don't. You got to be careful. No, I don't. You can get OEM on Amazon. No, that one be $17. You get what you pay for. How much does it cost? This one was about $1.54. Yeah. I knew your shit was going to be expensive. $154. Yeah. No, for sure. Yeah, I ain't got time to beef with niggas. I'm parched. Yeah, my shit can't get those guys. I had real life 40-year-old shit going on out there. What a filter problem. Nah, listen, that filter light changed a lot. Yeah, it did. That's different. Is it hard for y'all niggas to be cool with niggas that shoot at y'all mans and them? There's a lot of that shit going on in this shit. Is it hard for y'all niggas to be cool with niggas? Because a lot of y'all niggas be cool and friendly, and that's what happens. Sometimes you can't control the pressure. It depends on them. Same thing with you. You friendly with, ask y'all that that's nigga cool. I don't know their history. Ask y'all that shit? You say that every time. That's like the third time on the show you see me. Y'all men shout out. Y'all men shout out, Joe. But then, bro, it's shit to it. Hey, here's my problem with you. I don't even know none of you niggas in real life. My problem is that why y'all niggas, y'all niggas are supposed to be professional enough and have enough talking points instead of bringing niggas' families in it. Like, where do you think a nigga go after you bring a nigga family in it? And you niggas want to wave the white flag when it comes to some shit outside. Stop bringing niggas' peoples in it, man. I'm not with none of that shit, nigga. I don't like that shit. Niggas, it's up. Why? Why must we go there? Niggas is too professional. Niggas is supposed to be professional, have talking points. I'm in media. Why is a nigga family coming out your mouth? Period, nigga. Period. At the end of the day, what I think is happening is that niggas is not where they want to be. And niggas watch niggas that they think that they might be better than surpass them, so they have to find little low-hanging fruit talking points to shoot at niggas. I don't like that shit, nigga. I don't like that. I wish a nigga would. And if a nigga shoot at me, what's the most you're going to say? Yo, nigga, dumb. You don't have. Yo, you can't articulate. You're too slow. There's one up there. Cool. At the end of the day, I'm outside. Nigga, go look at the Fanatic Fest cameras. They'll tell you. They'll tell you. Go watch it. They pull out the cameras. Yo, flip something. Oh, word? Anywhere. I'm not with none of that. Don't shake my hand. I don't know none of you niggas. I just don't like certain angles niggas take because you don't have to take it. Period. I'm done with that. You don't have to take it. And then some of you niggas, too. A lot of you niggas be disrespecting my peoples, and because we had a relationship back in the days, you try to reach back out to me. Yo, flip. No. far I'm not interested in being cool why because if you respected me you wouldn't have went that far if you even know who I am what I stand for you wouldn't have went that far none of my niggas that raised me play like that now I just see the nigga get please I don't play like that when I'm I'm so I can keep it on you I can watch your sneakers I can watch your living conditions I can watch your car I can watch your talking points I don't need to bring other individuals involved in order to shoot at you I think that shit is weak period I'm sorry and a lot of niggas do that and they try to disguise it or hide behind friendship no you're not my friend bro because you respect me you wouldn't do it especially a place that I work at and I'm period I'm not for y'all no I don't like it no no are you getting me hype yo now outside forces is getting me hype and now you getting me hype yo I ain't gonna lie man I gotta find somebody I gotta find somebody to fire at I do it's a healthy exercise keeps you sharp keeps you ready yeah I ain't y'all yeah nigga look over there doctor yeah nigga mute up when niggas get to talking violence yeah nigga you too fuck out of here yeah I'm ready I can't fire on that I love these niggas but there's no outside force even Charlamagne that used to be my guy man now look you can't even shoot at him just randomly there's nobody to shoot at just randomly you got to be like grown and adult and mature can't smack nobody to sue you yeah yeah yeah see now some of y'all are down to smack niggas right and I'm just so I'm clear I've been this close a couple times this last week and I was like hell yeah recently? oh shit you said this week? twice this week like over some shit they saying like some internet shit no not the internet y'all gotta be confused y'all better ask around Elmira boy no why y'all looking so no cause he just seems so mal-mannered nah you seem so mal-mannered but we know how you get down tell him tell him ooh I set him up tell him you seem mal-mannered but what what happened when the demon is born what happened when the other hits come out from the 90s nigga that one different cloth-ish nigga I surf from green to black nigga you sent it to toe-toe yeah boy from spiderman to venom nigga fuck if they talk it could get dark yeah it could get dark I'm playing with you boy you in the gym for a reason boy your knees ain't weak yo I don't kiki with none of you niggas and nobody if it's something and it's not nothing so be clear with me and nobody but if it was I'm not going to kiki with you niggas I'm not going to kiki with you niggas can't nobody I know squash it for you these niggas is so cute where the pen I fought you I was on the phone I was on the phone behind the behind the some beefs need to get squashed yeah some shit bro that's wrong shit bro niggas can't if you can see it's over nothing it's bullshit nothing I don't wanna squash I hate you niggas can't squash I'm the decider I'm the determining factor in something I'm involved with getting squashed what if the nigga apologized escalating de-escalating Joe what if he apologized or she whoever it is well it was over right so sometimes it's over sometimes a conversation with that person you need to apologize to make them do that well if that person apologized then I'll deactivate I'll just de-escalate some shit this weekend trying to do that oh yeah what happened how'd it go it didn't go the way I wanted it to oh for real I think it's worse that's the other thing it could go the wrong way playing mediator boy too oh yeah it can go the other way yeah that's why you don't do it all the time I rarely do it and only when I'm asked to but you know what I mean I had a homie I had to do some that shit for this weekend it didn't work out the way I wanted to but I felt good stepping in and saying let me try and chill this out cause we too old to be fighting if we ain't got to be that's it if it's over nothing or if one person is clearly wrong yeah that's the way I get different homie didn't want to beat up my man I do want to hear what happened what do you mean I'm shady right what are you talking about the nigga want to beat up your man I do want to hear his side I do points were made I mean yeah I do I don't know am I with a fuck nigga or not like how I'm going to it's important to know yeah what did this nigga do I might not co-sign it now I ain't with you beating him up when I'm around but I might not co-sign it this shit can get tricky fast it can yeah I don't want to run around with a bunch of people that is that's causing the fight that's causing the fight that's ready to fight hey I've been there done that it's expensive it's not fun it's normally never bitches around that energy it's just you and 30 niggas waiting outside the club for the lead promoter to come out alright they all good no no I got five more no no why why niggas step on your shoe in the club now niggas in a shootout outside niggas said what's up the wrong way oh shit it's a set yo I'm telling you I would have never joined a gang yo I've been in those instances where I've been out with some gang niggas and across the club they would see niggas that they didn't know but wanted to activate with them cause they was from a certain side of town that just didn't make sense to me I'm sorry we in my park now you there so you with us hey y'all go ahead and have a blast with that I'm out of here that's why I wrote solo dolo but can't nobody squash it it's up nigga anyway yeah nah now I'm hype nah now I'm hype it's M.O.P. when I'm hype sorry shit sound like it was mixed in a laundry room god damn that was it back then though that was fly it was mic check mic check one two one two one two you know what I mean whole Brooklyn what's going on out there big charity big charity whenever I'm in the building what's going on out there what's going on out there what's popping though I'm back to my gap and I got the stage strapped I bust hard don't try to stick up on me from behind I see right now and I got to show you and act like you want drama I sent a message to your mama I don't want to fuck your skill attention please attention please this shit here feels like the whole entire world collapsed my world collapsed my world collapsed Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Y'all shout to wherever you might be listening from, of course! You put the money in the freezer! Give it to everybody. Pop a mission. I'm from Portland. I'm from Big Diggie. It's the B-O, DeGennaro, Charlie Parker. You know what I mean? Real talk. In the 90s, everybody just couldn't walk outside, man. It looked like they restoring the feeling out there. It looked like they bringing that energy back out there. Hoodie season is approaching. Here it goes! Check out this bazaar. Rapper style used by me. The B-I-G, I put my name on it. You put your key in. Money will be seeing. We'll reach the fucking ceiling. Check it. Check it. My chemical, bing cock. This rap, Alfred Hitchcock. Top-notch player. Hey, it won't stop. This instant. Pot is too persistent. Quick to spit beer. It tastes like ass when you see it. Alright, nah. It's chill. Biggie always talking about tasting ass. Biggie always take it further. You see me. V that is. I that is. G wins. Motherfucker still in my bed. They knew my niggas got them fucking kidnapped kids. Fuck 'em in they ass, throw 'em over the bridge. That's how it is. Now that I'm all laid out. Fuck that bitch shit. That shit is played out. Y'all got to go. All I make is one phone call. All y'all disappear by tomorrow. All these guns is borrowed. I don't feel sorrow. Actually, your man passed the gap to me. I checked his. I checked his. I checked his. If I rules and Crips all got along. They probably got me down by the end of the song. Sing like the whole city go against me. Every time I'm in the street. I hear dah, dah, dah, dah. Oh. Let's go. We 'bout to start smacking the shit out of niggas again. Yes, sir. I think you wanna trip down memory lane. This is not a rebel. I'm slinking crack or more cocaine. I got some nerve talking to all this shit wearing skims. Real sergeant, what the stretch that weighing on your breast. 46, I'm telling you. Oh, nigga. I'm old. What's the beef? What's the right beef apparel? I got rid of all my cards. First one to get killed. Seen a light-skinned nigga with his brains blown out. About the same purpose, still the same gout. Now this is not a tape recorder saying that he did it. But ever since the day I was looking at him different. When I was nine, Joey packed a nine. Back to stand on every porch is fine. We adapt to crime. Back up van with four guns at a time. With the sliding door. Fuck it's up. Fuck you shooting four. If you ain't walking up, you fucking fucked. Yo, what's on y'all go fucking nigga up playlist? This is up there. It's up there. It's up there. I got a whole playlist. What's on y'all get yourself in that zone, in that mode playlist? Give me some pop. When you ignoring that other voice that's speaking rationally in your head and reasonably. When you on time and what's that playlist look like? A lot of 50s shit for me. A lot of pop for me. One of those gangsters up there. For sure. Pre-approved. Bodies on top of bodies. I whoop your head, boy. Obviously the coroner. That's that playlist I sent you. All right, we got a great show lined up for y'all today. Your color's correct. Make sure your corporate don't dare be calling. Your mother collect. They say the governor collect. All up our taxes. We the traffic and tragic. At least that shit ain't no threat. You want it backwards if you suggest that you sleep with the tech. Go buy a chopper and have a doctor on speed dial, I guess. Mass City. This nigga put this out as a new nigga. This is crazy. All right, man, let's get back to the proceedings. As we pro-fuckers these niggas talking about out here. You want to lease? No, Joe Biden. It's the JVP. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. Let me get these drops right out of the way and get right into the proceedings, man. No, Joe Biden. That's why I don't just pop up at Invest Fest. That's why I don't pop up at motherfucking Fat Joe birthday. That's why I don't pop up at these events, man. I'm telling you, man. No, for daddy. Might end up speaking to one of you niggas. Might end up in some small talk with one of you fugazi ass niggas. I've been watching Tony Soprano clips all week. Fuck, I want to talk small talk with you niggas. No, for daddy. Might end up at the bar and say, "Hey, I'm going to get a job." I'm going to get a job. I'm going to get a job. I'm from the web and nitty era it's the network yo I'm gonna get this ad out of the way but this episode ain't for the sponsors man take flight run for cover man might say something you gotta run by the lawyers never know that's how we feel uh what episode is it calling my phone man no you don't do the fuck with this nigga I'm working working getting activated can't take phone calls when you're getting active you know I mean wake up mark you might have to get active on some of these niggas what episode what 956 welcome to episode 956 of the joe button podcast humbly brought to you by powered by fueled by prize picks prize picks gang you you I'm your humble grateful great appreciative happy to be here host joe button here with some niggas man you know me here with some guys to my right yes sir queens get the money queens flip in the building flip how you feeling man feeling good man I'm here I'm ready to get to it we love that we love that next to him don't let this intelligence shit fool you it could get it could happen don't let them happen to you our good brother dr mark lamont hill in the building mark how you doing not too good man but you know I'm hanging in sick right we know you're sick today yeah we know you and freeze with these sicknesses and weak ass immune systems being on brand with your personality proximity to children that's why you gotta get them little niggas away from you that's why you gotta send them on somewhere send them to the supermarket just send them to summer camp that summer camp should work they think they playing with me I'll send that nigga down go sit over there for the next four days I don't want to see you nigga I don't care at all oh we're good anyway how you doing I'm okay man just you know sick the last couple of days I had to do a lot of stuff this weekend my body just it's time for a recharge man you know I got some fractured fingers and toes and you know what the fuck is wrong with you it's been like that for weeks it's just my body's just overworked and tired so this is my last day before vacation so oh well that's the only reason otherwise I would have probably called out but I was like you know I called out the day before vacation you smart you did it right and there were people that said I was dunking smoke too you know because god forbid a person just be sick and that was the first thing I asked somebody when I woke up I was like yo this guy's vacation is winning now yeah that's why you wake up early because I get the 5.59 text from Ian oh yeah hey buddy what time when you going on vacation oh yeah 4.45 4.45 I was up too you know I got a clip I was clipping oh shit you fucked the game we'll talk about that you gotta get the job done fuck the game he ain't fucked the game he got the game running smooth he fucked it up for the niggas that was eating ching ching nigga came in like Marlo Nicky Balls nigga he came in on somebody else's shit Nicky Balls let me show you how to do it I mean it's simple math it's just math y'all yes it is I mean but I ain't about to beat nobody down I dropped out of school man next to Mark whoo kid ha ha kid niggas saying they gon murk ishy how he ride around with guns the size of little bow wows and he back and he in the gym consistently he goes to a 24-hour gym he be in there after midnight like a maniac I need to ask y'all about that he be in there after midnight like a lunatic I'd like to even more fish you with the conversation we had before I was talking to this yesterday wait no let me do the intro we're getting back to that conversation but he's in there yo he's strong he's strong y'all keep playing with my boy you gon make you gon have to make an example out of somebody he wear them sergios you know he he he on that he trying to send it back to ADC he trying to send a message yeah he on time and he trying to take it back to that he got brass knuckles in his pocket take the brass knuckles out boy niggas taking it back to three o'clock high you're stupid bro niggas hey ish how you doing man I'm good dog you good I couldn't be better happy to see you man damn real man I said I'm happy to see you oh y'all are just no no no I'm good It's like I heard you. Yeah, see? All right. All right. You looking for something like that? Anyway, next to Ishmael, Mr. Take It Further himself, our current Potter of the Month. Yes. And one of the, probably the valedictorian of the Joe Budden Mentorship Program. I got to give it up. Big Freeze in the middle. That nigga Freeze. We love you, boy. Sir. Freeze, how you doing, man? I'm good, man. I'm good. I'll show you how to do this, son. I seen you in the streets, man, with D1. Yeah, shout out to D1. He was in the hood. I had to pull up on him. Super dope. You want to do some content? No. No, just one for content. Just having a content. He does a back to school event in the hood. Right. And when I found out, I just pulled up. Oh, that's fine. That's nice. That's what's up, man. Y'all was out there for hours. Hours. He was out there for a minute. Talk about everything. Everything. Shout out to D1, man. Shout out to D1. Shout out to my man, D1. Big shout out. Those who live in a realm of negativity can't understand that shit. Yeah, true. You're starting to sound like D1, too. They can't understand that shit, yo. And when the devil come in, and the devil come and try to save us. It's alien to them, man, bro. Freedom Devil. Hey, Mark, you can't make them jokes, bro. Oh, shit. We love you, please. Moving on. Moving on. Parks is in the building. I'm here. Well, we don't want to move on yet. Oh, well, don't move on. Stay here, then. Hey, and Parks deserves a better intro than that. Come on. No, you doing the intro. I'm just saying we on to the next person. If I'm doing the intro, what you did it for? I didn't do any intro. If I'm doing the intro, what you saying? I said we were moving on. Parks is here. Moving on. But we're not moving on. All right, well, then don't move on. We ain't moving on. You know what's funny? Again and again, this is Flip and Mark playing around with you, but I'm going to get shot at. No, no, no. Wait, hold on. You started this shit. Exactly. I did start it. All right, then. No, no, not the D1 stuff. No, you just started. Oh, I did? All right. I came in here cool. You started. I started with you. All right, then. So now we in it. I'm starting with niggas. So now we in it. But wait, but if other niggas shoot at you. Who's shooting at him? Mark. Oh. I don't worry about that. We caught. Get in front of the car. We caught. Snitching ass niggas. What are you talking about? Yo, them bushes. Yo, you, yo. Get them under that car over there, yo. They got us. This nigga crazy. Jump down. Jump down. I'm glad Freeze went over there. I don't necessarily want to see their faces that close together in the camera screen. All right, come on. Enough, nigga. That's it. Chill out. Did you see the video? I saw it, nigga. Chill out. Why y'all was. Did you see the first. To my piece, yes. The niggas was. Y'all got to put the phone sideways. The landscape. Yeah. The old, too old niggas getting together. Let's take a landscape selfie. Y'all got. Next time, hit the panoramic view of some shit. Nah. You niggas was beard to beard. Just have a woman take the picture for you. Yeah. I thought that was dope. Find a friend. Find a friend. A stranger. You niggas was famous. There was only two niggas out there. Niggas going back. You said the only two niggas left? There were only two niggas out there. That wasn't the whole thing. Niggas don't never tell us how many people supported the event. My bank. It's like. Oh, no. Stop. Stop. Stop with that. No, no, no, no, no. This is where I separate from Mark. What happened to me? Is that where he's going to be? No, sir. You said he was. I can't cloud a back to school. No, no, no. You can't. Because you got. You got a doctorate and shit. I can't do that. Come on, Mark. No, shout out to D1. That's my D1. You don't know when I go too far. You don't have to say that, nigga. God. We support the. Oh, boy. Wow. Y'all jump ship quick. Yeah, we phony. These niggas. When they come to anything with back to school events and shit, you can't deny it. The irony. They was cheek boning. Oh, fuck. God damn it. Anyway, Elmira's finest in the building. What's popping? What's popping? What's popping? Engineer extraordinaire. Not willing to share. Shout out to Neff. Almost put his hands on some people this week. About to put the white hand on them. That's not that important. That's not internet. You probably make some real life annoying people outside. You probably make sounds when you slap them. I'm funny. I'm funny. Oh, shit. I should slap somebody. Yeah, yeah. I'm with Paul. Yo, Paul is here, Corey. Corey's here, Harrison is here, Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. How's everybody doing? Everybody good? Doing great. Doing great, man. Good. Good. Absolutely love that. Where do you guys want to begin? Let's keep the energy right where? Oh, back to the gym. Before we get anything serious. Let's do it. Come on. Before I was there on the phone and I noticed all them weights in the background. I heard people grunting and stuff. You talking to Hitch? Yeah. It could have been a work site. No. It wasn't that kind of grunting. I actually had a different thought. But it turned out to be the gym. And I was actually impressed that you'd be at the gym at four. It was maybe like five, six o'clock in the afternoon, man. And then we started having a conversation about the gym today. And you mentioned that you wear cologne when you go. I mean, if you're going at six o'clock, it's the after work crowd. You feel me? No. Yo, dawg. That changes things for me. The conversation was we started talking about colognes and then old school colognes. Old school cologne, new school cologne, niggas nose evolving, et cetera. So I was like, yo, one of my go-to's is some cheaper shit that I could just get. That's what I'll be wearing to the gym. And they was like, you wear colognes to the gym? and joe looked like yeah nigga y'all heathens that don't wear cologne to the gym well i'm not gonna call them heathens but i'm certainly not about to be ridiculed uncultured swine because before i'm down with ish on on this one before i go to the gym you get pretty no i don't i don't get pretty i don't get pretty at all i don't get pretty but i do spray a little something a little in the air and give a little walk through yeah that's the nigga that throw the arm sleeve on and the caraway is going to go to the park i don't do none of that right yo bro i be mad at people wear smells that's what paul was saying it's actually against gym etiquette to be wearing cologne disrespectful hey paul listen it's some universal sense that okay this ain't no brute you're right but what he said he also matches to go to the gym so i don't be doing that like i don't be trying to get cute to go to the gym what i'm saying is yo it'd be niggas in there it'd be sweaty sometimes i don't believe what do you wear what were you wearing yesterday to the gym just curious i don't believe that not for a second first of all did it match did you have that's that ish did you have on some tom brown nigga what would you be wearing to the gym i wear sweats every day what kind big hoodie every your own shit to the gym but do you wear the do you wear the uh do you wear the compression boxer briefs they're like hide hide how you hanging it or you go in there swinging whatever i got on bro oh so you're in there trying to do damage oh you in there oh shit yo i wear i wear hoodies i wear thick hoodies and thick pants i do cardio so i want to sweat thick hoodies and thin pants i want to feel the wind like when i used to go with cbs get the lambskin the lambskin condoms you ain't never do that because i did no you did yes i did you did i'm telling you i did i believe you think i never purchased condoms oh no i wouldn't say that yeah i think you bought them yeah that part too i've used condoms just keep them in your wallet show off when she come over oh he's responsible i've definitely used condoms before we're not gonna paint that picture and if i wasn't using them that wasn't on me it was on these whores it was one out of every 500 girls that actually stuck to hey i'm not gonna let you penetrate me without a condom on there's only one out of maybe a thousand that was like nah for real so your numbers are in a thousand nah do it so your numbers are in a thousand oh no no no you wanted something he's right yeah it ain't on me hey i'm not gonna paint that picture i'm not gonna paint that picture i had them hey we was niggas we had a drawer full of all types of whatever surprise she might need i think i had makeup wipes i had all types of in the drawer yeah there was condoms in there but you're a horse ass let me do that to you and then once you're here that's when they try to look you in your eyes like oh can you believe we're doing this yes yes yes yes i can't i can't i can't i'm about to be done my condom just made me fuck for way longer than i wanted to fuck yeah yeah condom you said nah i don't want to last a little bit that's what kind of is good for the first time yeah not just being safe but let you really put your shit down the first time oh no i don't want to be here that long not even the first time the first time with who never mind no that is important he don't stand in that the first time who i'm gonna be here that long i'm gonna be here that long i'm never trying to give out a plus dick on the first time i said that i said that i wouldn't say never 20 million times i've said that 20 million times we're trying to give out like a b huh i'm not doing none of that shit on our first time on the first it got to be a special occasion it got to be i've been waiting 25 years to pop pop you that that will never happen and if you've had it you're gonna wait another 25 you give out that c minus that's what i'm saying i've never had that problem i've never had that problem no no you can most of the women i know operate on uh two to three trial run if you if you start off they ain't just cutting you they're not doing given that they like you given the a out universally is a dangerous place to be i don't even trust niggas that move like here's why because a lot of times for me there might not be a number two yeah so i don't want a c report well that's why are you damn because he agreed you know what i said he's giving the ugly nigga diatribe right now why are you jumping he's saying the truth for his ugly ass growing up he developed into this shit he was in school he got yeah he got himself together look rolex special customizing i don't know why you're dabbing him anyway but he's telling i feel what he's saying you're stupid dog you're dabbing somebody i don't want that on my jacket yeah you bugging you bugging i've also had more stalkers than all of you you have not yeah oh yeah i think i have way more i think i think we could have a stalker i mean i don't want to have this conversation because they'll they'll they'll see well i mean whoa whoa whoa because you because you be having stalkers for other reasons no i'm not like romance romance don't try to put it back on uh education i mean he said you know i wanted to make sure he was making the separation no i'm saying you said it like that you couldn't have that you couldn't have him for that reason you said it like you couldn't have him for that reason don't do that to my man well if he's running around throwing out all the time that's just how one of them happened stalkers i'm trying to get 50 million what next year another one back tomorrow back tomorrow i think they're blowing your pockets boy ain't nothing in these skim pockets yo that's hilarious yo what was he saying just now stalkers stalkers yeah no i take mark's word i take mark's word that he's in somewhere at the same ballpark but if you've had enough of them then why would you continue to do that then what i don't know he's married because he's a man with an ego it's ego it's a you're talking it's ego and you got enough female platonic friends you know how they be on and shafting niggas you know how they be shitting on niggas and shafting niggas you know how they be shitting on niggas and shafting niggas you don't want to be in a group chat like girl that was like watching paint dry y'all didn't read kill the ego by sandra flanagan neither did you i don't even believe that's a real thing you gotta work with your author names no that was a good one that's a good one that sounds like a real author that ain't nobody okay but however kill the ego is a real book i don't i don't remember the name of the author but the that be reading they always do that conversation you haven't read paint the town red by see andrew willigan no no no i haven't i haven't maybe you can loan me the book sometimes um we was talking about something uh wearing cologne to the gym cologne to the gym i have too much cologne oh so you're trying to get rid of no i use it i have enough cologne i want to smell them all there's not enough time in the day i want to smell my paws so if i'm walking out i want i'll pick up a random spray it just a little bit niggas be stinking in the gym bro that's the other thing i don't want to be around you want to talk about gym etiquette let's talk about you natural stink odors some of you need to take a page out you stink some of these that's true that's really funny or and be the want to come ask about the machine yo you done with this yo dog go over there to the smoothie counter man and the that got shoulders two times your size this big them be on roids you can smell that coming out they pores and all that you can smell the roids you think i'm joking i don't know what roids smell like yo i put steroids on tank jacket what i dm them and told them too hey yo bro chill out niggas looking good you gotta blame it on you could just say that you look good good job tank yeah your workout's working yeah and that's your suggestion bro nigga loves you bro and i love him i super love tank all right my man man okay you think that roids like does something that i love no you saying it publicly i don't know i don't know if he's on steroids i would hope i don't think so he looks great i don't think i mean i don't know a bunch of because they look that great but that's hate if you say that that's definitely it's like when the rock was running around 60 years old looking like okay and everybody was like oh the rock looked great okay that one a little different hey you got it it's a big difference yeah a little different what a little bigger yeah he's a tank looks good anyway just stop doing that just stop doing that forest please what you go neutral in the gym a little soap just smell good i agree you should stay in the gym yeah you shouldn't smell bad but you ain't gotta smell like you're going to the club yeah i sprayed my fifty dollars sorry wait one little fifty dollars sixty dollars okay you got a special gym fragrance then no i'm just saying i ain't going out with the five hundred dollar bottle spraying that i ain't got the money but mark don't wear you don't wear color right i wear if i go out which is deadly no i'm no not out of my house i don't wear it to the gym and i don't wear it to work so when you was at cnn you was just up there on neutral i see why they fired him i kind of agree with him but i was usually in a room by myself who's the stink in the auditorium that's taking a stand who's he taking a stand no free you you could put a suit and tie on and not put colona most of the time when i was on Cable news, I was in a room by myself. I wasn't on set. You don't like this. smell that? No. I like to smell neutral. I like to smell like soap. Black soap, too, right? Shave butter! The original black soap. The world. The shit that hurt. You know the one. That's the only thing he took from the cult. Still standing today. He took some of that soap they was using. You start the Marilyn Manson shit. We used to make it shit. The Marilyn Manson shit. Charles Manson. About the grandkids? No, there's a new Charles Manson doc on Netflix. Is it better than the other ones? So far, so good. I don't want to hear from no serial killer grandkids. This is when I learned my granddad was a cult. You barely knew him. Shut up. You love all that shit. It'd be dope. I'll check it out if it's on Netflix. Netflix normally does a good job with that type of stuff. Shout out. The second episode came out. Yes, Crime in America. How do you feel about that one? I love it. I thought the first one was good. I thought this one was great. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. It's just the problem with being an asshole is that people are always waiting for the other shoe to drop. It was just a compliment. I'm not saying nothing, Mark. You're looking at me like you're waiting for something. It's really good. Good job. I just wanted to salute. Make sure y'all check it out. I said thank you. Nah, I think his brain started working. Like, should I shoot at this nigga or not? Oh, I was just giving the nigga a compliment. I don't trust Mark. You shouldn't. Y'all don't trust Mark? No. No, we shouldn't. Y'all don't trust Mark, do you? I would never make fun of anything that y'all, like a thing y'all put out that y'all would promote. I would never. You just made fun of his D1 post. Yeah, but that's just a post. That's a group chat joke. I mean, if you did a podcast with D1, I wouldn't be like, yo, that shit was trash. Oh, come here. And I actually like Crime in America. I would like to hear a podcast with you and D1, actually. All right. Hey, brother. What would you call it? Hey, brother Freeze. Yo, you can't say nothing in this podcast. Yo, shut the fuck up, nigga. Never mind. He's nice alone. There's war in the air, man, and everybody just wants to shoot. That's all it is. You know, I was one of the first ones to do the podcast thing, D1. Yeah. Yo, what are we addressing first? It's all-out war in the streets. Everybody's firing. Everybody's shooting. It's anarchy out there. Mark LeVant Hill was called out by name. We got to start from the top of the list. Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. Who called me out by name? DJ Academic. Oh, you're talking about- Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw another tweet from him about 10 minutes ago. Do you walk it back? No, no, no, no. So he's still shooting at you? Yeah, I guess so. So the war is still afoot? I don't know if I'd call it war. Afoot. Man, I like the word afoot. I do, too. The last thing he sent was an hour ago. We got a clip. No, I don't have it yet. I'm looking. Go ahead, Mark. Well, if it's chronological. But the one I saw an hour ago said, Mark Lamont Hill, smart guy, had zero insights on any valuable stories in hip hop. No sources, no research, no new information. His job is to just be the smartest nigga in Joe Budden's circle. Where is the journalism? That's what Axl did? Uh-huh. He said about me, yeah. About an hour ago. But I think last night there was a live stream. Everybody's sending it to me. Upset. Not upset. People are waiting for a response, I should say. They're not upset. They're engaged. Okay. And I think Joe's going to play. I'm going to play the audio, so I don't want to step on it. But he basically meant saying me, Rob Markman, and Lauren LaRosa are trash, I think. I think that was the gist. That's the gist. Or y'all are pussy journalists because you don't- Report on Roc Nation. That's what this is all about, right? This is all about Roc Nation. It's the Drake, Roc Nation, steak versus whatever they're doing. To validate his findings. The tenured Mark Lamont Hill. That's good to hear. Y'all are some facetious shit. I don't respect none of y'all niggas. Y'all niggas on some journalism shit. Let me tell you where the journalism coming. When it comes to y'all niggas. Nigga, you just a writer, nigga. Like, yeah, you listen to hip-hop and yeah, you from the culture, this, that, and third. But nigga, when I think about journalism, I think about investigative shit. None of y'all do that. Definitely not you. You the genius, nigga. You don't do that. Lauren LaRosa is a, oh, I called for a statement. She don't do that. And anybody else I mentioned, I basically told y'all all three of y'all niggas to eat a dick. You know why? Because the real journalists these days that put the work in. Is the YouTubers, nigga. They put the work in. I've always said, you know why I came up in hip-hop? I came up in hip-hop shitting on niggas who wrote. The journalists who wrote for Hot New Hip-Hop. All these other bum-ass sites. I shitted on them because I would download the fucking. I figured out, oh, let's get the indictment. Let me go read 700 pages. Let me go read 10 different things. All y'all did is to repost. All y'all do is repost shit. So when I hear y'all talk about shit. Even when you don't even know the case. You like stumbling, fumbling, looking at your notes. You don't even know what you're talking about. How can a journalist say you have zero idea? I talk about a case. Not only because I'm sued. I talk about a case fully. Because I do it back and front. How is y'all journalists? Is it because I pot shit and I could talk? Then you get the gist of what he's saying. And this comes to boot. Because he had discovered that somebody from the Rock Nation. Barbershop's cousin's nephew's lawyer. Was also doing Pilates with the people that did the deposition on. It's a whole bunch of. I don't know because I'm not a journalist. And when I don't care, I'm not getting into it. And I don't care about all of that. I don't see what the fuss is. You know that these companies are beefing. They're going through shit. Yes. One side calls themselves doing their due diligence. I guess Act just wants Charlemagne. All of this shit is intermingled. I guess he just wants Charlemagne to admit that he worked with Rock Nation. Which to me is not even really a big deal. I don't care. But let's get back to what he's saying. He's saying that y'all journalists. Ain't journalists. Are not really journalists. Because he's uncovering all of that. And I do think that he's just probably getting this stuff from Drake himself. But that the journalists are not doing their homework. To kind of uncover this stuff. See if it's true or not. And speak to it. What do you think about that? Huh. What do I think about that? He says. I don't break hip hop stories and do investigative work. And I don't produce new information on hip hop. I would say academics. You are correct. I don't claim to. I haven't done hip hop journalism in probably 20 years. And when I did. I was a music critic. And I report on. Stories that are relevant to hip hop. But I don't walk out here saying that I'm a hip hop journalist. I don't think I've ever said that out here. I wrote some of the earliest books on hip hop. And I've made a huge contribution to hip hop. And I still study hip hop as an academic. But I'm not a hip hop journalist. And when Joe hired me. To my knowledge. We were out on the balcony when you made me sign the contract. When we talked. He hung you over the edge? He and Ian. Me and you are going to go to lunch. I don't think Joe ever said to me Mark. I want you to be my hip hop investigative journalist. If I thought 90% of the criticism I get up here. Is that I'm supposed to be the political guy. But dot dot dot. Or we got too much of that political shit. I didn't know that my job up here was to be covering. Or to be breaking stories. On any topic. But especially not on hip hop. Am I a journalist? That's one of my roles in life. It's not my primary job. But it is a job. And for the last six weeks. I've spent every single night on my channel. Breaking. New information on Nolan Wells. From the moment he died. I've been covering the Nolan Wells case. I think that's a better use of my time. Than Roc Nation versus Drake. But. Can I jump in and just add one thing to what you're saying? Yo, Ag. Who the fuck you think you talking to, nigga? Hold up for a minute now. We two are enough. Yo, watch your fucking mouth when you speak about a good doctor. We're too peaceful. We ain't taking that shit. He know what he was talking about. You know what he mean, nigga. You just trying to find a way. All right. Yeah, you're not. But you know what he's saying. Address what he's saying. You started to address it. You don't feel like the Roc Nation versus Drake is important enough for you to cover. Let them cover it. It's important for us to talk about. But I don't. The amount of energy it takes. Think about what Pablo Torre does with the Clippers. Right? We'll get to that later. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what he does. Or think about anybody that does anything investigative. That takes time, energy, resources. It takes time. I don't. If I go through all of that, and it turns out that Roc Nation has an ax to grind against Drake, and they're fucking up his career and undermining him, I don't feel like that would be a good use of my time. Do I think that's true? Yeah. I watched that, what's that thing called? What's the Dirt? What's the Dirt? Because people say, I was ducking. I wasn't ducking. I'm busy. I got other things to do. I literally, I write books. I read. That just isn't something. I'm not interested in it. You know why? Because I think it's probably true. It's not that I'm ducking it. I'm afraid. Yeah. Do I think Roc Nation has the power to fuck somebody's life up? Yes. Do I think they don't like Drake? Yes. Do I think that they might be behind some shit? Sure. I don't know enough to fact check it, but let's just assume it's true. Be clear. I'm not running from it. I just don't care. Not because I'm a Roc Nation employee. Roc Nation's never given me a dollar. I've never been to a brunch. None of that. I just don't care that much. Let's assume it's true. Now, what do we do? Do I organize the troops? Do I go to the street? Do I go get a bunch of people together to rally behind Drake so that we can free him from? Free him from the clutches of Roc Nation? What the fuck do I do? I know what I'll do if I find out Nolan Wells was killed by his friends. I know what I'm going to do there. You know what I'm saying? I know what I'm going to do. when we talk about people dying or not having water lead in the water in Jackson, Mississippi another thing I investigated I wrote a whole book Nobody about Ferguson and people dying from lead being shot by police in Flint, Michigan having lead in the water I know what we did there we got people water what do I do after I do all this work and put a thousand hours in to find out that Drake who has a ton of money is being fucked by somebody who has just as much or more money I just don't care that much you're right and I can get water to you nigga you thunk come on then he want me to turn up but it's like no it's not but you just you get me back in the fucking like adult mode man watch your fucking mouth when y'all talk about me that's all I want and sometimes you need to do that I don't this is the situation I don't have a beef with that he's right I don't contribute much to this show in terms of breaking stories I don't know why that became my role but he's right I don't contribute much to that thank you for calling me smart I think this story you got all eye on you I also don't think that this story is exactly hip hop journalism no it seems like gambling journalism yes to me big business it's big business the best game big business it's not about hip hop there are hip hop members involved certain areas of hip hop is affected by it so an act wants just the people to cover it and he wants us to talk about it and condemn Rock Nation for the I think he wants some level of unbiased reporting right from what I gather it's like yo you guys might know that these things are going on but because you guys are so scared you won't say a thing about it you know what I'm saying you know my problem why why niggas can't really be loyal to their relationships let's see if that was the case nigga so what act you cool with Drake and you show that you cool with Drake if a nigga was up here cool with Jay-Z isn't a nigga job is supposed to defend his man not saying it's being done but so what niggas be saying things like yeah I'm scared that's my man if a nigga my man there's plenty of things these niggas try to tell me about this nigga mum's the word I would not say anything plenty of things it was a lot listen what I'm saying is that a nigga can't get me to talk about my man you defending me to some shit half the shit we in this cause of me nigga you defending me to some shit did you go and talk about me we come from different things you supposed to defend your man if Jay is somebody man niggas ain't gonna talk about their mans up here sorry you want niggas to admit oh that's my friend okay we gonna admit it oh that's my friend if niggas ask me about Joe Webb anybody that's my man I'm not talking about it that's it there's nothing wrong with that you cool with Drake I watch you I watch you go through this shit with Drake it happened that's your man niggas can't get you to talk bad about Drake that's it my nigga why niggas don't respect you respect yes we look up to the Joe Bunn podcast all the people up here as the people with the information that's supposed to break the news because of the big following also a lot of niggas have relationships also it's more than relationships a lot of times niggas is in business and niggas is not gonna sacrifice their business for clicks or views I'm sorry I don't think a nigga's wrong for protecting his relationship same thing with me and the Camron situation when I said nigga Cam gave me allowed me to get a hundred thousand dollars and I don't wanna diss him they looked at me bad I'm not dissing a nigga that put money in my pocket regardless of what he says if he not talk about my family or my children which is a thing for me he's good talk whatever you wanna talk because I'm gonna see you next week and we gonna talk about it as family or whatever we gonna do which end up happening niggas can't preserve and protect their relationships enough with this shit my nigga and here's the thing I'm protecting my relationship yo and I hear flip and I agree with everything you just said for you some people might look at me and say well Mark you put yourself out in the world as somebody who calls balls and strikes you put yourself out to somebody who does say they're gonna hold people accountable right true cool so two weeks ago we had a knock down drag out in here about Target we did and I was the one criticizing Jay-Z you were when Jay-Z got involved with the educational shit in Pennsylvania you were I made videos about it investigative videos about it criticizing Jay-Z when the Super Bowl shit happened I criticized Jay-Z I don't mind being on the wrong side of Jay-Z I just I don't care about this I don't care enough yeah because the other issue was about educating children the other issue was about the right to protest you know what I'm saying the other issue was about national boycott I'm not running from smoke I'm not running from criticizing powerful people all I do nigga I fucking criticized the state of Israel in front of the United Nations I fucking made a book with Mumia Abu-Jamal like I'm not a fucking Freda Drake and Sandra Flanagan nigga who is Sandra Flanagan I don't know she can get it too though auntie I'm a combination I'm a combination of both these niggas paws I'm with Mark I think I think that the shit y'all saying niggas is doing they doing that shit I don't know why y'all need my input on that hey not only do I think they doing it I've known they been doing it for years and years and years hey it's a fact now what that's one two like Flip is saying if you have a relationship I'm not gonna call it a relationship if you have a healthy amount of respect for somebody that's on you to cater your behavior to whatever fits that mold for you for me I have a healthy respect for way too many people this earth shit is hard this content shit is hard it is this life shit is hard aging is hard coming to grips with shit reflecting on shit self-improvement course correcting all of it is hard and doing it in front of the public is hard so I have a healthy amount of respect for the people that are out there carrying it a certain way that aside I heard an act assessment of me it was a lone mercenary type shit you're right buddy I want to reserve the right to flip on anybody at any time don't hold me to yo he fly with him so he ain't saying up up up up up I ain't that fly with none of these niggas like Wayno said I don't want to go to a brunch a birthday party I don't want to kiki with nobody I don't want none of you niggas on my mixtape I don't want y'all on my EP I don't need your producer for nothing your publicist for nothing I'm cool with however God is carrying this thing for me I'm not with none of that shit and I want to address that point act made because he keep trying to listen act being fly with niggas like he clearly is fly with Drake that's where me and him separate that's where my lone rogue mercenary shit come to that's why I almost got beat up by the Migos because the act was sitting there being cool kiki friendly with niggas I'm like what the fuck get these niggas the fuck out of my face these niggas in these blouses what are we doing right now shout out to the Migos what are we doing shout out to the Migos but at that point in time get these niggas the fuck out of my face with all of this shit Atlanta shit in Atlanta shout out to Atlanta I was in Atlanta yeah yes he's about to get the A-Town stuff yeah they was gonna peter roll your ass up like Chipotle I'd have woke up the next day maybe hopefully maybe well I woke up the next day how about that it didn't happen maybe anyway now you may forgive the fuck I was saying oh yeah that's where me and act go astray he's clearly riding with Drake doing a whole mouthpiece for Drake thing I'm not with none of that shit I want to flip on anybody at any time I don't have an allegiance to none of these niggas out here did y'all see what Rob Markman is saying to act I didn't see I saw he responded but I didn't hear the response I watched it what did he say kind of what you said like he it wasn't anything spicy particularly to me it wasn't anything spicy shout out to Rob Rob is a classy guy man yeah I like Rob a lot me too and I agree I agree but fuck I don't think a lot of niggas want to get on act's bad side I don't think I don't I think that the resources or the time he takes to go in on niggas and the following that he built people tippy toe around it period they don't want to get on his bad side nigga so think about that though I'm the only nigga that I know how to work the algorithm period me for niggas disrespect me I'm on that but I watch a lot of niggas and respectfully so niggas don't want to get on that nigga bad side oh heck I understand excluding my man cause I get cause that's not it for me excluding you excluding I want to be clear cause I'm not it's not a shot at you I don't do what you do and say shit secretly on the low niggas that is the thing in front of me secretly secretly but yeah niggas don't want no problem niggas don't want no problem with act you know what I'm saying I'm not talking about robbing but I just I watch a lot of people when they respond to academics if it ain't my song or one of them niggas that just niggas like alright act you got it cause it comes with a lot so think about that think about that what you're saying if we could acknowledge that with act the same could apply to a rock nation or something like you get what I'm saying if you could see yo who the fuck want a problem with these motherfuckers if this is what they could do same way you could say it's common sense some niggas is not gonna bark up but from act's brain act is saying I don't give a fuck he is saying I know I'm just saying so now he's saying anybody could get it right but the funniness of this whole thing act is saying that like other people should feel like him should feel like him he's begging for unbiased transparency while he's being biased and not transparent on the other side too so I mean salute but yo So, I love everyone's position in this beef pause. Y'all done made Wayno get mad on a camera. And I got to be honest, I like it. It was good. It was good content. I was up at 445 with nothing to do but look at niggas spaz on YouTube. That's all my algorithm. Wayno, I love it. Keep firing at these things. And you're firing at somebody I like. I like Ray. I like Ray. But I like when Rob Markman don't bother us. So, y'all got Rob hyped up. I love it. I ain't going to be sitting here and be phony. Hey, I don't want a whole bunch of peace. I think I've been clear in that. I don't want peace out there. Fire at these niggas. I love Ray Daniels spicing it up. I love New Neo. We heading into 2027, dog. We heading into 2027. It's been some of the same. The same faces, the same kings, the same games, the same systems since 2015, 2014. We heading into a new spike. Hey, let the fucking carousel go around. Let's get some new players in this shit. Hey, niggas is killing Charlamagne. They absolutely killing Charlamagne out there. Hey, guess who love what he did? Me. What'd he do? Hey, me. Hey, sometimes you got to sit on a throne, fire some bullshit out. And a nigga. And a nigga that didn't deserve it. Guess what? Hey, y'all don't understand the weight that comes with a crown sometimes. Sometimes you got to see a nigga look like he making a little too much noise out there. And slow him down. I love that. I love Ray. That's where all this shit started from. It's Charlamagne and Ray over a fucking Jay-Z album that's still who the fuck knows. I like Charlamagne making all the money. And just, hey, I see you. Hey, pow. And then go back to being, hey, that nigga ain't said another word. Yo, I like that. I like what everybody do. I can't be phony, yo. All out war. Bloodbath amongst these content creator niggas. Let's get to it. Are we here? Are we here? I got popcorn from Acme. Who be? Yes. I want to see it. I'm not going to be phony. And say I'm rooting for peace and unity. And safety. And no, no, no. Fight. Let's go. Let's go. These niggas want you to be bombers like them. If niggas is flagging niggas shit, right? Just say that. And niggas is copyright infringement, right? They're using those tools. Why the fuck, if I cover a nigga, why the fuck I don't know why I'm going to just shoot at a nigga? Let's talk about reality. So what? Now I have to go through the whole process of getting my channel to lead. Now a certain amount. I'm talking about Queens flip. Yes. I got to go through the process of getting my channel deleted. Now. Yes. My funding is gone. Some of my funding is gone. And now I'm stuck because what? I wanted people to know what this company is doing. Never. You got to have a plan B, C, and D before you shoot at niggas. Because whatever copyright infringement tool they got, it works. I seen it. That five second rule shit don't work. Whatever that rule that YouTube put, I just looked it up. Whoever worked at YouTube changed it. Do not get mistaken about the three to five second rule. It's done. It don't work anymore. I just checked it. And in a weird way, this is everyone working together to drive up the AdSense. I mean. Hey, you content creators know the fourth quarter. Y'all know what quarter coming. Come on, man. Hey, y'all. Y'all. Y'all know what that AdSense get to doing it around. Come on, the fourth quarter. Come on. Let's not play around with it. Hey, we can all work together to just make this thing as muddy and messy as possible. Nigga, act you make it all funny. Nigga, I see you over there kick. Nigga, you making the money, boy. Ray Daniels said Sean Amain was in back channels. Asking about him. Asking about him to start a smear campaign. Trying to dig up information on him. Guess what he said. And I looked at it at home and said, yeah. Duh. Yo, people be so surprised. That the logical thing to do next. Hey, hey, hey, we go back. Hey, hey, you know, you know, nigga, you got some good. Yo, what's in the way becomes the way. It's no. Hey, that was a hurdle put in front of me. That was an obstacle. No, no, no. That's the way now. That's one of the lessons that you got to pick up when you get to Warren. Hey. You niggas want to war. Let's learn the lessons that come from war. Your page getting taken down. We call on YouTube. Hey, this pays this income that's going on. Do me a favor. Let's slow that down. Let's put a governor on that. Let's slow that right down. If you say something bad about me, some hate speech or whatever, we get that removed entirely. That would mean a call in the places behind the scenes. A lot of your podcasts have got a little prize picks P in the corner. I love when I see that. Know why? Yo, I love it. I love it. I love to see everybody getting money. I mean, sharing logos, logos and shit, but that's my block. My block, I'm in a peaceful mood, but yes, that involves picking up the phone. Hey, you work with that's just part of the game. I've been killing shit for 10 years. Sirius was supposed to cut me a big ass check. At least. Nine years ago. They can't. They can't do it. Nobody can't do it. Got to pick a side, bro. Got to pick a side. That's Rosenberg gang over there. You better know what gangs you against, nigga. You ain't just never going against one person. That's Rosenberg's gang over there, man. That's fucking shady. Been there since 2005. They can't cut me no check. It just wouldn't look right. I love it. I live for this shit. I live for this. I'm not out here fucking with a cup shaking, nigga. Let's get it. Let's go. It's crazy. Wake up in here, goddamn. You niggas are too fucking mild, man. Wake energy up, nigga. Do something. Scream, nigga. I am done with the floor, nigga. Wake up. Don't touch me, nigga. The fuck is going on, goddamn it. I'm having a war chant over there, nigga. I got to rock out, nigga. That's your bag. I get the feeling good even reminiscing about it. Even reminiscing about wars, man. This is fun. Hey, keep it up. It is entertaining, man. Keep it up out there. It is. I love it. Let's get some new players involved. Come on. We can't just drag out some of the same beefs. Let's escalate it. Escalate the beef? Let's escalate the beef. Yeah. That's a good message. Word. So what happens when the nigga on the escalator? Going to the upper room. Then what happens? See, everybody don't know what's going on. They don't play content, bro. Ain't nobody not playing content. Yeah, got my boy involved. No, I'm just saying. Yeah. Just when you thought I closed the topic. You thought I had it closed. That whole hour was a trick. Got my boy involved. It was a runway. Hey, let's toss it to my man to tell you about what happened when we don't play content. What happened ish. Ain't nothing. Talk about when you catch a nigga at Wawa. Go ahead. Give me your bag. Go ahead, Ish. Go ahead. I'm going to push the mic away. No, I'm good. What'd you say, Ish? Come on, man. Nothing. They use lyrics in court, nigga. I'm gravy. No, I just think it's whack. I do. I do. I think it's whack. Everybody be standing. That mean it could happen to you. No, I'm saying everybody be standing on this pro-black hill and all that other shit, right? So if you making behind the scenes calls to stop another black man from eating over something that's really not a problem, I think it's whack. Because ain't nobody really out here insulting nobody or doing something to the point where that should be happening. Now, I get it in business. That's the game. I know. In business. I'm mad. You got me. You got to sit in jail in Monopoly while everybody roll three times while you're just sitting there and can't do nothing. Guess what? That's the game. That's the game. It's all part of the game. True. You either built for it and equipped for it or go stand on the stands, man. That's true. Go be a spectator somewhere. This shit going to get active at some point if you out here. Can't have one foot in and one foot out. And too many niggas is making way too much money. Somebody's going to bring it to your front door when you wasn't looking for it, when you least expecting it. Somebody maybe that you least expected it from. Be prepared for all of it. All of it. Be prepared for it all. I'm going to find me a hop to get at before this episode is over. Anyway, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize picks. And don't ever get it fucked up when you niggas can get paid. When I pull up. Hey. Look at y'all. It's tough to get active in this room, yo. Never. We're 50, yo. Never, nigga. Yo, it's tough to get amped up. I need some YNs around, you know what I mean? Yo, you YNs. YNs have guns that look like smartphones. I saw that. Yo, I saw that. I said, yo, I'm so glad I was a young nigga when I was a young nigga. Yo, that's a fact. I agree. To be a young nigga today, I was way too inquisitive. I'd have been in all of this bullshit. A gun that looks like a smartphone, please give that to me. Let me try it. When I was young. Yeah, I would have tried it. Yeah, that's crazy. I wouldn't ever go out of nowhere with these. Did they pull out a smartphone on you? yo that's like when we was young it would have been like Flash we gonna take your picture alright he pull at you you like yeah nigga you better call somebody I ain't calling nobody I'm calling your maker I'm calling somebody right now I can't believe these young niggas Mr. Sandman a smartphone gun I got the girl on speed dial yo you pull out a smartphone gun that mean you dead ass about killing me yo that means you got it I pissed I pissed you smooth off if you skip a regular gun like you know what if you transform a gun yo if you just do that you won it could be a display of model I'm telling you I'm not playing with that nigga anyway oh prize picks alright Ish has not sent me the prize picks he's working diligently at it cause this morning he came in he ate half of his turkey bacon and egg bagel left the other half there unwrapped shit falling out the sides I was about to throw it away but he went back and made it back over there and ate some bacon but he always forgets to send me the prize picks when we're doing the prize picks it's reminding my girl my girl my girl every day orders food as if when she went to sleep new foods were invented serious every day and it's just always like an hour and a half for her to order food and she can't seem to order food without knowing what I want to eat and I keep saying yo just eat yo just take care of yourself you're a picky eater nigga I'ma open this shit and be cool with Wendy's if it comes you're a picky eating ass go ahead and just do you but didn't you take that as I don't care do she at least eventually make the decision of what to order though yeah oh well I gotta clap it up for that no don't clap it it'd be two hours later my favorite one of the best feelings I get in the world is when she's sitting there for two hours trying to decide and the store closed on her oh that's my favorite thing I love that and then she sit there and got a star are you mad she sit there mad hungry oh everything's closed I hate New Jersey well yeah when you take three hours to order food that's what happens I ain't got time to beef with you niggas out there you miscellaneous fucking non-playable character niggas because ordering food it's a fight I had a smoothie I had a smoothie bowl the other day for the first time how I'm gonna beef with you niggas and eat a smoothie bowl what is a smoothie bowl they just put the smoothie in the bowl instead of a cup you talking about an acai bowl I don't know what y'all talking about issey miyake I'm talking about a bowl with a smoothie in it where you could pick the fruits that's an acai bowl you don't drink the bowl you could put some you don't drink it you put some Nutella in that motherfucker yeah that's an acai bowl you can put anything in that motherfucker I got it right here hold on man what else little electric mermaid yeah pataya bowl your granola ooh how I'm gonna beef with niggas I enjoy the granola in the smoothie but I can't do it you call this a smoothie bowl it's a smoothie bowl I mean it is kind of a smoothie but in a bowl it's not a smoothie bowl it's drinkable granola mango pineapple kiwi coconut flakes and honey I'm the same you wouldn't even believe I had a gun to my head before and that nigga pulled the trigger I'm eating smoothie bowls thank god he let me live nigga I didn't know what a smoothie bowl was ish did you send the pics or what do you have my phone number god damn it you're so frustrating to work with alright I found it alright for real he frustrates me honestly niggas with android he the only nigga I talked to that has android still alright here we go bong bong alright the summer of soccer is in the rear view but you can still make all your summer sports picks on prize picks preseason football is kicking off and the WNBA and baseball are heating up throwing big tennis slams and fight nights and there's no better place for all your summer sports picks than prize picks America's number one 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accomplishments Drake been shooting at that nigga he gonna ride out on you old niggas is gonna learn alright bet so I switched my commentary I came in and said hey get that nigga ride on him let's go teach his old ass a lesson and now y'all telling me I'm dick riding I'm click baiting I'm rage baiting all types of shit so I'm just gonna shut the fuck up and wait for the beef to happen why I don't think that is equivalent to game and Kendrick whatever they got going on and I do see it don't think that because I don't come in and talk about it I don't see it I do see whatever the fuck the internet streets are saying is happening there I think that that goes a different way I don't think that Kendrick has been just shooting that game for a whole bunch of years I get it the whole I see dead people I know I heard what they said I just don't see it that way and it has far deeper implications right that has like west coast gang different sets different regions niggas that grew up together niggas that got cousins and family and friends that grew up together when it gets to that I kind of mind my business it's not my business it's not my place I'm not gonna use my platform to incite things to go a certain way when my good years on earth have let me know exactly where that will go I don't think that's the case for Drake versus Jay-Z I don't I think that would be a cute little rap battle and that's where I stand on that not the same at all for me where else we at we done with beef wanna get to Stephen A let's get to Stephen A Stephen A was given the thumbs down award at the National Association of Black Journalists uh conference that they had uh I didn't know the thumbs down award was a real award but it is they do it every year and it's given out to the people that uh for lack of a better term make being a black journalist what uh it's given out to the people that make the job of being a black journalist a little more difficult they said they gave it to Stephen A for his disparaging remarks toward prominent black women in the fields of journalism politics uh and it was one other field that they cited uh and Stephen A has been responding to this ever since yeah it appears to be a big deal yeah this wasn't now I'm not familiar with this with with uh this conference with this convention with this award uh Mark are you familiar yeah yeah yeah we were I'm I'm pulling up the details of the award we we talked about it last year you were making y'all made fun of it y'all made fun of it last year uh I think it was in Cleveland. why are we teasing I'll tell you that seemed like some super fly positive shit that they do yeah yeah agreed what's the name of the thing again the National Association of Black Journalists oh I don't know yeah I don't know I don't know why this year was in Atlanta we should go I think it's a great event next year it's in Houston I think it'll be another great event that we should go to we may even do like a pod panel or something because they invite podcasts as well as journalists traditional journalists it's dope but anyway shout out to them the NABJ is like the biggest organization for black journalists it's an annual convention conference people show up from all over but it's also the voice of black journalism the people when things happen against people we stand up and speak out did they do that against me with Palestine of course not but other than that they stand up and they speak out on issues related to black journalists they find opportunities to support but he holds on to it but he holds on to it though what he said makes sense though yeah it does black journalists fired for free speech no they're not riding with you heard yeah you just gotta realize loud and clear yeah say less same conversation does that hurt you does it bother you because people that I think are highly intelligent say that you are one of the most highly intelligent people that they know does that when you go home and get in like your intelligence sauna where get into this fucking brain start sweating yeah it's like does that ever hit home for you give me some terry cloth I think I think it just I think it just irritates me when they take a high ground on certain issues when they don't stand when it's tough got it let me hit it for you I'm gonna hit it for you it's the same shit it's the exact same shit we've just again they might be they might want to but they got mouths to feed yeah and the sacrifice ain't necessarily worth it no cause that the ramifications ain't the same yeah yeah it's true you gotta weigh that bro you gotta weigh that yo yeah I might wanna stand with you but we'll come with that but that's what but the whole point of having an organization and I don't wanna make this about me cause it's not but is that we can stand is that we can stand together cause you're right if one or two people stand up they can get plucked down but if the entire organization of black journalists in America say this was wrong you know they're not gonna hire anybody if who y'all standing up against got a big enough fly swatter to hit all y'all at once and still fuck it up yeah but that's probably and I hear that and you know what they can make that choice I just can't respect that choice I get it that's all I get it cause you're willing to lose it for that yeah for what you stand on yeah and there's a lot of people that's not yeah and so but the Stephen A thing is interesting so basically they gave the thumbs down to Stephen A because they say his disparaging comments about Jasmine Crockett uh who else did they say there were a few black women Jasmine Crockett Kamala Harris Joy Joy and Reed that's who it was Joy Reed and Kamala yeah and so they gave the thumbs down to Ward I don't know if they give it every year I don't pay attention to the awards enough to know they said they give it out every year I looked it up it's every year but I think Stephen said that it's usually organizations and not individuals he alluded to that I think I've never heard of a person getting it before I'm not saying it's true I don't know there's only four he's the fourth or fifth person that has ever individually gotten an award alright so they do give it to people they do yeah so then so do I think he deserves the criticism yes okay I think he 100% was wrong on the Jasmine Crockett stuff I think he's 100% wrong on the way he engaged the Kamala Harris stuff I think the criticisms of him are appropriate uh if I'm only giving four people in a history organization the the award I'd have to wonder if if he's done the fourth worst thing you know what I'm saying in a history organization um but I think they were they were very clear that we're not playing about this they have a right to do that some of it has been embarrassing from Stephen A yeah no no he deserves the that's what I'm saying he deserves the criticism if you deserve the criticism to the point where uh people in mass feel like it's been embarrassing some of the stuff that you've been on yeah then you deserve the award and that's the key part the key part is in mass in mass Stephen A. Smith has a louder voice than some of those other people he named cause he named the people yeah right I didn't know any of the people not saying that that's my area of expertise but Stephen A. Smith has a louder and broader reach than most journalists you know what I mean like most people don't know the name of everyday journalists even they they could be great in their field but most people don't know their name people know Stephen A. Smith's name and you are basically allowing white societies to say see he feels the same way and that's the that's the damaging part like yo dog one of their loudest and brightest stars is in agreement with us on a bunch of these issues and I think that's scary I feel like Stephen A. has a hard time stepping outside of himself to see himself I don't think that is specific to Stephen A. I think a lot of people struggle with that but if he were able to do that I mean they keep citing the lack of accountability I'm going to take it a step further than that because Stephen A. says this is all political and that they're giving me this award because they are liberals and hate to see a black man with an opinion that differs from the liberal objective I call cap me too I call cap on that why why why that's not that's not that's not true that's a pattern that moves to the right to me yeah yeah yeah but and the first place did you go or one of the first places you go after you receive this award is Sean Hannity right which just doesn't look good and Stephen is bright and Stephen is bright enough to know how that looks but I'll take it before Stephen A. ever entered politics I'm taking it back to Stephen A. Max Kellerman and Terrell Owens that's what they were saying it came out wrong I'm talking about the event that led to Stephen A. making sure that Max Kellerman was never seen unless a boxing ring was around right when Max Kellerman was kind of driving some black points home and Stephen A. often at times maybe unbeknownst to him sounded like he was on the other side of some of those things and Terrell Owens said see he's black or than you that hit that hit that hit home but that was way before Stephen A. got into politics that was something that people noticed about the stances that he was taking maybe in alliance with some of the higher ups at ESPN before anybody really could put tail on the donkey to ESPN's political stance on things I mean I think that part is clear as day now we kind of know where Steve stands we know where Pat McAfee stands even though he keeps trying to play neutral and middle ground but he was at the fucking MAGA MAGA Super Bowl shit he was at the MAGA whatever they had the other day the little MAGA party I don't even know him but Pat McAfee was there they on his ass because he came out with Donald Trump but I think we know where they stand now and when it comes to what he had to say about some of the people I'm going to go to Joy that wasn't political yes Joy did a political show but his commentary I was confused because Stephen A covers so much shit he covers sports he covers politics he covers culture sometimes when he gets away from ESPN which is really never and goes about on his own or at least to appear like he's on his own it looks like he's trying to come in on culture or people receive it that way so Joy Reid losing her job I don't think that deserved all that it got from Stephen A it got a lot it got yeah I can see why she lost her job her ratings were bad nothing is political about her ratings were bad unless you have a political agenda inciting that those ratings on that particular show was bad to which Joy Reid replied maybe bad for where I am but I get quadruple your ratings like you can't have a ratings conversation with me I've been dominant you're on ESPN we're held to different but not only that she's as well respected as they come in her field and I love her show so even if you have a critique about her there's a way to deliver that and if it's not delivered that way if it comes off demeaning and like they said disparaging and just with it seems like there's malicious intent it's seen it comes off like that's how it sounds then that's on that's on you that's on the talking head to find a better way and his vocabulary is up there should be no reason why it sounds like that he should be able to deliver his point the stuff he said about Kamala that's political but how he spoke about her nah nah nah you're rubbing a lot of people the wrong way that's not to me a right wing left wing thing here's where I get and again I share all the criticisms that you just mentioned I Stephen A's on the wrong side of these issues to me I said it explicitly this isn't me defending him for me it's just a question of you know sort of setting precedence for what organizations are going to do you know like every year are we going to give this award to people based on the takes they have based on the way they approach these things if so then sure let him be the first in the long line if that's what the move we're going to make I just don't want it to be an isolated moment where it's just Stephen A. Smith because I think that that also is problematic and it'll reinforce his narrative that this is a political thing because I'm the black man who's not liberal and therefore you're going to give me a kind of stripe well he does the worst job at uh hiding it. - Yeah. - Yeah. But this is where it gets. He says that he's liberal in a lot of things, but conservative fiscally is his stance. So then that allows him to say, see, if I go away from the line even a little bit, look what they do to me. I don't want to give him that kind of cover. So I think we just have to be consistent with it. But this speaks to another conversation that Stephen A had, slash debate that Stephen A had with Mike Wilbon about a week ago, two weeks ago. I saw it. Yeah. Mike was saying Stephen is no longer a journalist. At all. And he wasn't saying that as a diss. He was saying he's the show. Yeah, he's the show. He said, it's okay. He's a ticket. And he said, I'm not either. Right? He said, we did that. We're not that. Graduated from that. Yeah. Interestingly enough, because Stephen didn't like that, and they had a very respectful civil disagreement about it, but if he had actually conceded that point, I think he'd have a much better ground to say this award is unfair. Because I'm going to show them, you can't give me a thumbs down on journalism award if I'm not doing journalism. Right. I'm a podcaster. I'm a showman. I'm just saying my shit about the world. I'm allowed to do that over here. I just can't do it over here. Right. I think that could have been an interesting conversation, but if Stephen A is saying, no, I am a journalist, and I'm doing these things, then I think the award looks more and more. Applicable. Applicable, yeah, exactly. So again, if it sounds like I'm, because I know y'all say I go back and forth, I'm saying Stephen A is wrong. I think we need to see, I need a clearer language from NABJ about what, who's going to get this award and how often they're going to be giving this thing out under these circumstances to people. But you don't think, like you said, it's only been four people. Stephen A is, like you said, probably the biggest voice. So him saying these things is bigger than certain companies' actions. He's not held as a standard as just a person. You get what I'm saying? Because I'm such a, my reach is so wide. He's a brand. Yeah. He has a company. So we don't get the black people who do this? I guess I'm just trying to make sense of it. Do we give it to a Joe Rogan? Black journalists. Yeah, but if I'm associated with black journalists, I want to be critical of anybody who's harming black people and black journalists, not just black people who do harm to black people. See, I don't know their mission. And that's what I'm saying. So you can speak to that like, yo, so the yearly when they give it out, are they giving the thumbs down to only black entities or is it broader and they give it to everybody? And I don't know the answer to that. That's the question I have for them. Yeah, that makes sense. Because if they're giving it to organizations, I don't know too many Negroes that got news organizations. So somebody's got to be non-black people. I don't know. So that's what I'm saying. I have questions. I'm not criticizing NABJ on this point. I'm saying, I need more information to know sort of how they're thinking about this. When I try to reach out to some people on the leadership, in fact, I reached out to Roland Martin about it because he's VP on the board. And he said that they deliberated. He wasn't there for the deliberation so he couldn't tell me sort of what their thought process was. But of course, he stands by the decision because it was a democratic process. I just think that we had this conversation last week. Remember, we were like, yo, Charlie. I don't think their thought process is hard to figure out. Yeah, me either. And again, I was about to say, I think when we have this conversation the other day because we brought up Fox. Like, when you're a journalist, aren't you supposed to be impartial? Yeah, like somewhat objective in how you report. I don't think so today, man. No, we've gone away from that. But he's clearly not reporting when he's sitting in front of that microphone in his own studio saying, you know. Negative things? There is a difference between op-ed and journalism. That's what I'm saying. Most of the programming that we look at journalism is because it comes from a place that does journalism. It's not journalism, it's op-ed. I agree. That's 99% of what we see. Stephen A. Smith hasn't done journalism. He weaves journalism into the work he does when he picks up the phone to verify something that happened or to confirm a source. But when he's up there saying, Lamar Odom smoked crack! That shit ain't journalism. He's putting on a wonderful show. He's the best in the business. That ain't supposed to be journalism. I think today, the line is getting blurred. A lot of people are confusing journalism with independent journalism. Because journalism and entertainment. Well, that too. But I'm just saying, a lot of where you work at, what company you're under, your views can't go too far from where they are at. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? So, yeah, I might be a journalist, but I can't tell the truth about what I really. Right. Because the company ain't going to rock with that. And people expect you to do that and deal with the ramifications. Yes. And once you deal with it, nobody's helping you. Ain't nobody going to rock with it. Nobody doing that. Now you just fall on your face and you. Like Mark said, nobody wrote for him. People want to talk about the world that we live in and how bad it is on Earth, but they don't want to look at the. They don't want to attribute that to everything that's going on. If he. The question I was going to ask y'all is that what if he really feels this way? Right? Is he not allowed to express himself on camera? He should, but. And then you guys are saying, what would be your response to that? What if he actually feels this way? I'm going to answer you. I think that Stephen A. Smith, number one, is intelligent enough and articulate enough that even if he feels this way to convey those thoughts in a way that's not breaking down other black people. You could feel how you feel, but how you word things sometimes and what you say, you could have. I could tell you flip. And I'm just making an example. Yo, your breath stink today, right? Or I could tell you, yo, my nigga, your breath smell like shit. It's two totally different things. Yo, I was waiting for first. It's a way you say some things and one could be helpful and constructive and the other one could be harmful. And so when you're saying harmful things, as your point comes across to Joe's point, his fucking vocabulary is too big for him to stoop down there. And for somebody like that, you have to now question why he's taking the. Exactly. Why is he going to hurt me about this? And to add to that, God will escalate some shit in your life right in front of you, right? Like, okay, the NABJ is saying what they're saying and clearly it looks like it's impacted you. Like, it's impacted you. Bro, he was about to cry, bro. Yeah, he was hurt. He was emotionally. He was truly hurt. He was on vacation. And he also used to come to NABJ, support people at NABJ, do seminars. That's what he said. That's what I was about to get into. He said part of why he was hurt is he's attended the last two conferences that they had. And last year, he went as far as bringing First Take, a show that's been number one on television for the last 14 years, up there. He went into none of that is happening without me. It's not solely on me to approve it to happen. But if I call and say, hey, I'm not feeling good about this, it cannot happen. He spoke like they should have some type of appreciation for that. I didn't really get that part. Acceptance. I didn't get that part. It's a grace thing, but I don't agree with him. It goes back to your fad point. Or the Jay-Z point we had earlier. It's the same point. If I came up there and showed y'all love, please handle me with white gloves, yo. Or at least give me a little extra grace, I think is what he's saying. I think he may be understanding that. I think he's underestimating what he did. What he did. How they feel about what he did. This might be the grace. They're not calling for a boycott. They're not calling, they're just, okay. But that's back to my point about things escalating right in front of you. And had you nipped some of this in the bud in other aspects of your life, then this wouldn't come up. What they said that seemed to hurt because it was somebody important saying it, like a group that meant something to you saying it, is the same thing that I saw a first take where Kenny Smith was explaining to you about your handling of Kyrie. That's what they were trying to say. I got you. When you said, yo, Upward from Queens had to pull me to the side and speak to me, that is what they were saying. Yo, you're handling one of ours in a way that we not okay with. We didn't raise you like that. We not raising him like that. Let's come together. It's the same thing people said with the Lamar Odom shit that you just cited. Hey, Lamar Odom's on crack. It's the same thing they could say with LeBron. LeBron coming to talk to you in the Boston. Yo, you are saying things and going about your business in a way that is ruffling feathers. There's a different way to do that. And if you'll do that with one of our greatest basketball minds and fucking Kyrie Irving, if you'll do that with arguably our greatest black athlete ever, then okay, if you still wouldn't nip this behavior in the bud, then sorry, it gets home with you. No, no, no. It comes home with you. And then when Aaron Rodgers get caught doing some fuck shit, your reporting of that is gentler. It's kinder. It's a level of decorum that you exhibited for the people of Aaron Rodgers that you did not have for these black people. So you can deliver it. And to just get off script for a second, right? Just in my brain only. Totally unfounded without basis. When I see some of y'all out there shucking and jiving, when I see some of y'all out there, what is it, Sam Bowen, that have, people that have, when I see you guys doing it, I just assume you want a lot more, right? Steven strikes me as somebody that makes 50 million, 60 million, 70 million a year, but wants more. Or, but wants more. Or they got you. But wants, but want, I want to keep it. I don't want to get there. From my point of view, No, when I say, oh, go ahead. From my point of view, you can attain wealth with whatever you want. Once you attain it, right? Like, I'm cool. I'm all right. I can't be bought. I'm not coming to kick it. You can't sell me on, if I'm doing it, I genuinely want to do it. I have a passion about it. Once you niggas get to 40 and 50 and 60 million and still be shucking and jiving, it says that you want a number that, the way I see it, is only attainable if you get to rub in certain elbows or share certain ideologies or have certain views. And it really just is as simple as that to me. It's economics. Or, bro, or, When I say they got you, which we'll talk about like with lioness like they was explaining yo sometimes you get caught up in something and now we own you and now you're the puppet and now you got to play by our rules or we end you or we can take it all away it could be like we don't know bro when you start playing up there in them numbers they find a way if they get they get their hooks in i just want to say one thing in i won't say in defense of stephen a but i can say with some certainty i've known stephen a a pretty long time now I've talked to him on and off the record but I talked I we were I remember one day we were hanging out we spent like a day in New York together when he except he left ESPN the first time and we were just talking about stuff life shit whatever he believes that stuff like like that's what I'm saying I don't I don't want to just assume that because somebody sees the world that different that they're that they're bought I mean he could be bought I don't know his behind but I don't think he's insincere I think he believes the stuff he says I think that this this is the thing about and this happened when I worked at Fox News with Bill O'Reilly because everybody thinks Bill O'Reilly is this crazy right-wing guy if you were to talk to Bill O'Reilly any one of us about 10 things I suspect you might agree with him on four of them maybe even six of them depend we're all a little different up here but somewhere between four and six things you probably agree Bill's genius is not lying about what he thinks it's about making a show about the four things that the other side agrees that that we all disagree on he won't talk about the other six so Bill believes everything he says he just curates what he says for the audience I don't think Stephen they are saying anything he doesn't believe I don't think Stephen they are saying anything that he's been coerced to say I just think he understands what notes ring Bill O'Reilly is none of my business I was my say that's that's parks his business that's some of it yeah I'm only saying because that's how you get that big because that's where he wants to be you gotta read the room and your audience and the people that built you up and you are who you are based on the support of us so if you now used to be to Bill O'Reilly's point Bill O'Reilly's fan base says yo don't talk about this other six things yeah cool Stephen A Smith can't do the same thing but they got the same fan base I'm not defending what Stephen A's doing I'm just telling you to lie only thing I'm saying about Stephen A is he's not lying about what he thinks I think he's doing the Bill O'Reilly I think he wants to be the Bill O'Reilly you can't I agree with you Mark let me interrupt you don't do that again do what like if you hear me about to say some ill shit don't stop me and then say it don't say it what don't stop me and then say it what you was gonna say but I agree with ish interrupted me to say what I was trying to say if your premise is true either way at some point you were insincere and if you're saying you're not insincere now and that's how you feel and that's what that's what you believe then that means that I'm not going to do your rise you were insincere because you were in these black spaces with black people you were black man in it you were fist in the air and nobody had a clue about all of this I don't think that's true can you change like I say that like can you be like come up and come up in these black spaces everything changes get with something else everything changes getting a different level start getting some information you start like you get so detached because you up here now that you start to believe some of that shit I think Stephen was saying the same shit 20 years ago he just didn't he just again he just told his own sportsman no the fuck he did not ain't no the fuck he did not no the fuck he did not I think I think fundamentally 20 years ago he was uh he was to Allen Iverson damn near what Amar Rashad was to Michael Jordan that's a black space yeah Mark no you're not in the Sixer locker room or on the Philadelphia Inquirer or with the Allen Iverson and that getting off a bunch of anti no I don't believe it no I don't believe what I'm saying is I'll say that I don't believe he just back then didn't talk about politics much he just talked about the basketball shit the six things and he hung yeah he just focused on the six things that's what I'm saying he didn't focus on the other four but what he realized is good point I can wait and here these other four are what's getting me making making moves for me not these six things that we all agree on because I still think those six things it's just these motherfuckers don't want to hear them six things just like y'all don't want to hear them four things you think you knew them six things back then or could have been throughout my rise I learned more about these six things and now I believe this too I've noticed in about 20 years so I can tell you 20 years ago his worldview didn't seem that different than it does now got it okay now that wasn't his start right so I can't speak to that I can I can only speak with any authority on the last 20 but I can tell you talking to him 20 years ago I didn't feel like I don't feel like the things he's saying now are 180 degrees different no I think Steven is a I think he's the honestly I think he's the average man in church oh shit I don't know what church you go to what why is that expound you might be honest there's some shit there's some shit that everyday black people say they don't fit into white liberalism we just don't say it in public okay I think that shit he believes you know what I mean um I think he's actually fairly liberal on social stuff beyond that but I'm just saying I don't think he's MAGA but I do think he has some foul opinions about some show some wrong opinions about some shit but I don't think he's he's not the nigga in the barbershop you'd be like you cooking yeah you you get what I'm saying like like I I think we we're not used to seeing that in public and for good reason again I'm not defending that's the problem but why I think he's not cooking and I agree with what he's saying but why I don't take it as cooking is the optic is still okay you've gotten louder in what Mark says are his original beliefs but it's next to Jason Whitlow not Jason Whitlow but Sean Hannity all them right wing niggas it happens to be at the same time where your parent that you are asking for the raise every time you need one clearly has certain beliefs and are not rocking with nobody that's not sharing in that and speaking to that so it just looks away it's fucked up again it looks away I'm not disagreeing with y'all it don't look like hey this nigga always felt like that and now he and that's what I'm incentivizing I'm just saying I'm just getting to the wire that's the difference between him and Bill O'Reilly y'all are playing in two different spaces or y'all came from two different spaces so you got to read the rules and you got to read the room and if you are in support of this one side socially then your social responsibility damn near demands that you don't say some of these things even if you mean I agree even if you think them but just just to beat the metaphor to death when Bill O'Reilly was an inside edition we didn't know what the fuck he thought about politics when he was when he was the host right when he's doing live all that shit that was all politics I mean all music all entertainment we didn't know but then he saw that that line was shorter and and the bread was much shorter and the bread was much better and Stephen A is basically following that same path again I'm not defending it I'm saying it's fun no no no yeah I should be clear because sometimes when I offer nuance people think I'm disagreeing I'm saying yes I share y'all assessment of Stephen I think what he's doing is wrong and I and I think the why is there I just think it's a little more complicated than just he got a bag and change his beliefs and see it's a little bit different but this totally coincides with what Rashad is going through from earn your leisure I ain't want to bring it up yep well I don't know this story be clear yeah because we have not asking me we have not brought it up I have all the love and respect for Rashad and Troy and Ian and all of them and just everything they've built on the best fest what they got going on how they going about it all the respect in the world so I was never bringing it up I saw but I saved it I see everything I saw what Rashad had to say I don't really want to put gas on a fire that he's trying to put out but in a moment of frustration and that's how I received it it was he was trying to say that hey invest fest for me is all inclusive it was never something I started with just black people in mind I want the Asians I want the I want white people I want Spanish people like I'm not doing nothing that's just I'm not doing that what this what is that I'm not doing the black thing I'm not doing said that yes wow okay in a moment of what I'm gonna say is is frustration with some of the criticisms he's been receiving after and best fest he the very next day or two days later went on his show apologized said he was speaking out of frustration okay but that's where I think the difference is right I do believe that Rashad was speaking out of frustration thousand percent right which happens I heard what he said and even if he felt like that in that moment I don't believe that Rashad believes what he said mmm I believe that Rashad knows and I heard I said he spoke to him I'm sure plenty people reach out a shot doing the black thing is not optional for some and I don't believe that Rashad believes that because Rashad is black you doing the black thing whether it's all-inclusive or not whether white people was invited it's a fact or not still here and I think some black people miss that again I'm not saying Rashad because I don't believe that to be true with Rashad you know what I think they do I think that you feel like you got a pick-or-choose like if you say yo I'm not doing the black thing then that means I'm doing the white thing no that don't I've been defending Rashad all weekend like I'm his fucking public defender and I personally haven't spoken to him but I know him and I know some of the shit that they've been trying to do outside of the media space so I know he's for black people like dog I know that the niggas went to the United States government and tried to implement a curriculum for underprivileged kids in the black neighborhoods and tried to start this financial literacy curriculum they put together a whole school curriculum for black and brown kids I know that because I got intel on the inside you get what I'm saying so the masses won't know that so I know he was speaking from a place of frustration because they've been getting their ass kicked based on a breakfast club interview with the Atlanta shit so it's almost like yo you dissing Atlanta nigga you ain't rocking with us and it was a power up it was a build-up of frustration and I think he lashed out and he misspoke and in in his me speaking I think when you have the ability to hold yourself accountable and apologize that matters when you double down out of pride and ego then you get looked at crazy Stephen A Smith had enough chances yes to apologize to black people for a decade damn near that's the he doesn't do it you understand you're my son for real yes you know you better man but you're my son why you gave me the words to say you this guy and that's one of that's one of the key distinctions it's like yo my nigga you just keep doubling down and bullshit Stephen A don't ever seem to be doing a black thing now he used to he used to he's done some HBCU stuff lately and some other stuff tours I don't want to say that I don't I don't want to reduce him to not having done black stuff but I didn't say that he hasn't done black stuff I mean I mean recently even talking about a black the black thing in Rashad's oh I see what you mean I see what you mean the black thing what do no matter where I go no matter who I'm talking to if it ain't a black person in sight I'm the black thing yeah you become the black man I'm doing this whatever that is blackness isn't I think I think they were getting criticism I think because they had some white speakers and some white um presenters at InvestFest I think and I looked at the InvestFest roster it's 95 percent black yeah not just that I've been there I've done some of the white people that they're bringing to speak are some of the biggest financial minds in the world so if we could bring these white people into this space if we're educating black people for education that for a long long time that door was never open to us if they allow these masterminds to come in here and speak to these black people my nigga I don't give a fuck who comes and educates my people if they're giving them quality education yeah I think well and again 95 percent of the speakers I'd invite them to come in and speak to these black people at InvestFest were black yeah maybe more than 95 percent and that was his point I mean he's saying he'd never it was never marketed exclusively as a black conference um but you know people run from blackness sometimes so I get how people would feel a way I take y'all know him I don't but everything I've heard about him would make me believe what you all are saying which is that in frustration he made a point you say things in frustration if it's your own attacking you so it's just you held to the standard I'm trying to help y'all yeah I do think there's value in having black people educate black people about black shit because part of the reason financial shit sometimes yeah but it wasn't necessarily black shit and we didn't have the keys to get into those doors what I'm saying is historically part of the problem is that even as a people we don't believe that black people have the ability to do those things much less teach those things so I do think there's power in having say a Magic Johnson stand there and explain that shit versus Paul Allen whoever right I'm just naming rich white people yeah right so I do see the value in that but to your point I also understand it might not be a hundred percent there's value there's value to the information that's that's number one but I do think we have to prioritize black people black voices but it sounds like invest fest does that it bro go look at the lineup 95 maybe higher than 95 are black yeah speakers you know I'm saying so I don't I don't think that they made this conscious decision to say yo we not fuck operating over there I think he just misspoke he did say there'd be more it'd be even more inclusive next year so I think that was part of it too is he saying like they'll be even great I'm not mad at that but some people here that means there'll be even fewer black people no it just might mean the same amount of black people with an addition to some white people or Asians or whomever I mean percentage-wise I guess that would make it pure I guess that's I hear I hear how people heard it but the internet is filled with people like shit they want them stop it they want them to end like I'm talking about me up they could text me I lied no no no no it's real life he thought it was funny he said yo don't bring me up there I'm like yo bro please no no I didn't bring my my cousin up here it's like yo let me come kick some knowledge I got you dog sorry your knowledge you had me unemployed broke no platform yeah I mean we speak out of emotions sometimes Mark you know it's a tough thing man at least he took accountability man like I said that's the important part I would say 90% of the wars we have out here are because somebody didn't say you know what my bad you know what I apologize you know what I fucked up but you know what I shouldn't have said that you know I think um yeah I think we should need to do more of that I agree I was thinking that recently will y'all stand on the bus family drama I don't know I think it should speak to this first uh uh genie bus is at odds with her five siblings the Lakers recently sold their the family's remaining shares or it's alleged that they sold it sold their families remaining shares to Bob Iger from Disney and Kushner and Kushner and Kushner genie buses attorney is saying that's impossible for y'all to do because I have the final say my vote rules all votes so y'all can't sell the remaining shares of anything it said that the siblings are going off a provision in the contract called the tag-along provision that says if someone else comes and purchases which my homeboy did last year right when they said when they sold it off to Tim Tim was named mark mark something mark something I can't Wallace. Whatever, I'm bad with names. But so they sold last year. So the siblings are saying, hey, we can tag along that sell at the same purchase price that he got. We can tag along. If you sold it to him, we can do it at the same price. And the sister's saying, no, y'all can't do nothing to that. So there's a fight over it. Yeah, I'm reading that. It's funny. Go ahead. No, I don't know. No game, man, please. Yeah, I'm a GenieBuzz fan. So let me start there. So I'm absolutely biased. And I just finished reading a book that I started to say last week. But I think y'all should read if you care, or an audio book or whatever. What's the name of it? A Hollywood Ending. It's about the Lakers. I know what he's doing, but the audience might care. No, I'm a GenieBuzz fan. No, I do care. Don't do that. Don't paint me like that. No, will you do a little lip curl and ask that question? You ain't fooling nobody. You're thinking about Thomas. But I do care. Yeah. No, but it's called A Hollywood Ending. And it's actually charting LeBron's years on the Lakers. But the first few chapters of the book talk about how the Lakers were bought. And how the Buzz children came about in their relationships to each other in Genie's role. So after seeing that and after watching the HBO's Winning Time, I love GenieBuzz for lots of reasons. In terms of who she is and her passion for the Lakers. And the What's Her Name show, which is a great show, by the way. I don't know if y'all watch it. It's a spoof kind of shit based around the Lakers. Oh, Running Point. I haven't seen that yet. I heard about it. What show are you talking about? Running Point, nigga. Running Point. It only in the run mark. He's just looking for beef. He's just looking for beef today. That shit is good. That's a great show. It's a good show. But they're saying, well, nobody's ever said that that show is based around. That's the subtext, yeah. But the thing is, Genie always wanted to run the Lakers. She's always been the one who was supposed to be in charge, even when the brother was fucking it up. And right now, she is still the governor. And to be the governor of an NBA team, you have to have at least 15% ownership. Yeah. This is about money, but it's also about her ability to still do the work of leading the Lakers and holding on to at least that part of the family legacy. It's a passion thing for her. It ain't just economic. Because they don't need the money. I mean, yeah, you sell this shit. They've made a lot of money off the Lakers already. And yes, a couple billion dollars more. That's nothing small. I don't ever want to pretend that that's not real money, if that's your thing. But they have such past regressive bitterness toward each other that some of this feels like, yeah, we want this money, but we also want to pull her down. We want to spike you off the throne. And that's the shit I don't like. Because last year, the siblings didn't want to sell. Right. So think about, and again, we talked about this a little bit off camera. A lot of franchise owners, they look at it like it's another business, like it's owning a steel mill. For sure, like the Sixers. It's just a company, right? You can tell with her, even if we don't have all of the background, if you watch any of the shows that they've been on, like she was in her day job. She was in her dad's pocket. Like, this was his protege, and she has a passion for this and the sport of basketball. A lot of franchise owners and sports owners, they don't really give a fuck if they win or lose. It's about the bottom line and the numbers to them. You can tell she feels differently. Let me tell you, again, I agree with you. I don't like doing pods where me and you, we keep agreeing. If you shut the fuck up, we won't agree. But again, I don't like doing pods. Again, I agree. Here's where my dropout bias ignorance comes in. Let's pretend I don't know nothing about none of this. basketball the selling of shares the selling of teams the sibling rivalry who did what let's pretend I'm starting from zero on knowledge for me if the dad that raised all you little bums not bones I'm just talking shit now if the dad that raised all you little bastards all six of y'all if the dad that built the Empire if the dad that took the risk if the dad that this shit meant more than the world to him to looked at all the kids and said this one yeah this is the one that I'm trusting to carry out my legacy this is the one I'm trusting to go to bat against all the rest of the siblings I'm giving her the vote she is built in my likeness she is she carries a little more of the bus umph she'd be that I think what I would if the dad says that I agree yeah I think that's like a dad right and a dad privilege and too many times what dads have to say is totally ignored I there's not a world where I think the doctor bus is would be okay with the Lakers being completely out of the bus family ten years after his death I concur not at all but you know I don't we know not at all we know you were the apple of dad's eye and we hold some resentment so now fuck you bitch if we get the opportunity to fuck you over he's so aggressive no no I'm just like yo dog that a lot of people looking at like aha fuck you again to Mark's point even if they bust down the money again for us it's a windfall but if you got a split two billion dollars in how many ever ways and splits for them it might not even modify their lives at all it wouldn't probably you get what I'm saying again I want to pack that if you sort of 10 billion last year exactly so it might not even modify their lives to that degree no no no no no I disagree with that if we sold it for 10 billion last year and can sell it for 2 billion more in a year this is gonna change lives in a couple more years no I don't see it as oh we got all the money in the world now you got an asset but if we got to bust it down right we got to bust it down we got to pay taxes on it we got to do whatever let's say it ends up being 300 million a piece right for people with that amount of money the 300 million dollars ain't gonna modify their lives like you still got your boat you still got the dream house it seems more like a vengeful thing on their behalf than a economic thing we've been waiting to get you actually let's get off the business side of this for a second can you give me that how you just feel as a fan about this I'm a genie boss the days of the black late genie but days of black Lakers I'm genie boss a Disney and then no black Lakers out there mostly white team at this point they got right to business the Quakers here's some sick shit glad ain't my team me too glad my team ain't sell like sellouts got me simply right with what Joe stop what we didn't say no that you know the knocks on the Knicks bro and I won't say I won y'all ring I'm gonna let y'all rock I won't I won't act like y'all been the most NAACP organization in the world yeah if I can talk about the Knicks won their case against Charles Oakley get out of here Oak damn yeah they was gonna you know what the Knicks are worth if you don't throw this shit out of here yeah spin that round off keep keep going when they toss Charles Oakley out of the garden you know how much the clip was worth 10 years ago look at the segway they've been in court 10 years about the anyway I said you know how much the clip was worth that clip Clippers Clippers oh the Clipper yeah yeah yeah so you could expect a certain result right wow getting your back I'm just saying don't just say you did it's the same thing you at the tip of your back it's big bank take little bank we've seen it with Roc Nation say his name it's basically a reoccurring theme of this particular pie I've been tipped to say his name fuck Pablo Torre bro I'm not thinking about it oh god you always take it too far what I did was say Pablo Torre yo what I'm telling you is is big bank take little bank so to Mark's point and this is where we have some level of disagreement Mark and I about to that's the same shit I was saying he's saying the academics like yo fam it don't mean that much to me to be the hip-hop journalist guy that academics might be wanting him to be right it don't change your life you don't give a fuck it's not that important to you yeah Pablo being his report of journalist self that y'all stood by fam you are just you chasing ambulances at this point even if they're accurate the people that you're shooting at are too big and too powerful for you to effectively change anything see and I'm not saying that's not why we shouldn't do journalism I'm saying that when you present the facts and you say look to the world you're doing your job look the world here's the facts but when you keep keep keep keep going now it seems like it's more than about journalism to you you taking it personally see I think what I disagree with you again we have to pick our spot put this on your clip page Antoine ish ate you the fuck up put that on your page happily no no no could you keep putting shit that say the opposite no I don't and I don't like it yo this is when I ate this up with it now put this up there never done that could you keep trying to clip up my boy low lights and now you're eating you up now you want to oh yeah and I'm with you this part fuck him fuck what you talking about this should be a good clip for your man you keep trying to make money off my man so stupid yo no I agree you pick your spots the reason I don't think Pablo's ambulance chasing is because I think that one is a public interest to it for example part of the Clippers thing involves taxpayer money and I do think that that matters and it matters to the public who's asking for this the other thing is I don't think he's able to chasing because I think he's picking up the power he's picking at the powerful you know I think it's it's easy to pick at the people at the bottom but he went after Robert Kraft last year you know his Pulitzer isn't for this Clippers stuff right like he's going after a lot of people Robert Kraft anybody could have did that nigga was getting sucked off in the fuck and with the immigrants nigga anybody could have went after that shit hey Robert Kraft shouldn't be you shouldn't be getting your dicks up right here that was a quick case that wasn't please do representation of Pablo Robert Kraft went to the handy spot got a handy got right yeah and went to the Pats game yo that's quick hey my nigga you can't be a billionaire on them fucked up beds but to Mark's point the public clearly does care about what Pablo's doing that the show has been a success he won a Pulitzer Prize which is the highest clearly there's interest and also I don't think that he's necessarily looking for I don't think that he's necessarily looking for fucking everyone to be jailed he's looking for some repercussions like normally happens in these cases i.e. I brought up a million times someone's getting a pick ticket away or something within the game right within the context of the game he's not trying to get people booked he's trying to get he's trying to get you know he also came out when this first happened and said I wouldn't I expect I'm going to get off completely like he's like I know and he said that as recently as yesterday yeah it's like I know what I'm up against and I know nothing's going to happen to this dude that's kind of why I appreciate and admire it you do it for the love of the game yeah yeah let me take that no I mean what I expressed is this what I expressed is were they cheating yes he's a reporter cool report on the cheating fine he kept going and then when he was up here and we asked him what about the other teams that are doing it he says I'm sure they are doing it they just not doing it to that degree and you can't make that definitive statement unless you've investigated all other 31 teams in the same exact manner and with the same vigor that you investigated this one team see I didn't take that that way I took it as they wasn't as stupid like I don't have to look far to find what y'all doing y'all put the shit in your name a lot of people sell drugs but you stand in there you stand there in the middle of the election in the middle of the election with a bag in your pocket so now that they off and again my thing too was they're not off though as of now they're not the NBA came out yeah what I said was because a lot of this stuff is criminal shit like that's what we we missing a part that a lot of this shit if it's proven to be true there's criminal shit going on they're gonna go to jail it's wire fraud it's a bunch of criminal shit that is going on and so now what is your overall goal your overall goal is to get Balmer Balmer's gonna know somebody to know somebody to know somebody he's gonna pay a fine that's not gonna change his life somebody else could be affected a little differently and that was my stance but think about the long term impact of this too because I think part of it isn't just this person it's how does this change the game for everybody else to your point this may inspire journalists in all their cities because Pablo's in LA you know this may inspire somebody in New York to finally investigate this Brunson clear fiasco someone might or LeBron being paid by fanatics to join the 76ers $20 hey Clipper team time to cut that out time to cut that out yeah We got our old signals. No, I understand. We've said this before. Yeah. So inspire the 31 other cities, but also maybe it'll stop people from doing it. It won't. All right, we got it, we got it. Do it better. Yo, you done teaching Pablo Torre a lesson? No, I'm good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it ain't on what you want? Yeah. And if you keep it up, it could happen. Yo, did y'all see Ray J or Lado Brown? No. Let's go. I wish I never saw it. Let's go. Unfortunately, yeah, I saw it. The moment I've been waiting for at work. Yo. Ray J or Lado Brown. It was at the Cluster Shields fight? At the Cluster Shields fight. It was at the Cluster Shields, not just for winning, but being the first female headliner of a fight in Atlanta this past weekend. That's amazing. Very successful. She put on a show. It is amazing. That right hook was crazy. I do want to circle back to that at some point. But Ray J and Orlando Brown was the sideshow that you didn't know you won, but you needed that. Yes. Jesus Christ, man. This was Ray J's second boxing match? Yeah. Third fight. I know one was MMA, and then he's done two boxing matches now. How'd y'all think he looked compared to the other two? I didn't watch it. I saw clips from the last one. I didn't see the first one. Yeah. That one, it wasn't much to see. I didn't really see much signs of improvement. You don't think he's been traded? No. I don't think so. I don't think he's been traded. That just doesn't make sense So you don't like Spend the money Pay the boxers Make it look like A real boxing event And not some reality TV But if you got Zeus saying I'm going to give you X, Y, Z millions of dollars To put on your event And that's the loudest And the biggest contributor And in order to do that I need this and this I just told y'all I told y'all I went to Summer Jam It was like yo This shit look like A Zeus production Yeah it was It was yeah It was Zeus banners Everywhere they in the back Don't do that You had a suite Okay In a suite So stupid yo It's to the point That I was making about When we was talking About the J. Cole shit And I was like yo I ain't really putting Too much of this on J. Cole Because If you're going to sell this out Because you him Then you're not going To get the promoters And the posters And the opening rapper You don't need A$AP Ferg to open up for you You're going to get the venue You're going to sell it out Do what you do Everybody's going to come out For you And you're going to get All the money So I'm looking at that Kind of the same way here A boxing people If I'm totally Out of my depth Please hit me to let me know But I just feel like They pocketing all the money And it looks like that though It does look like that I think to have a woman Headline a boxer With some prominent Women with some Solid male heavyweights Is a tricky tightrope To walk right Because if she's going To headline She has to be The biggest act True So then The men who are under her Who are not the biggest act May not also draw people Into the match True So I don't know If the gate and the door Is enough without These spectacle sideshows Without Ray J Without Ray J and them To fill it up You know he won a bag Yeah I could see Ray J and Orlando Brown Really helping sell out Honestly I'll tell you this Joe if Ray J's Off that card Joe I paid for it To see them I didn't pay to see her Hey Joe if Ray J's Off that card I wanted to see Be clear Y'all not disproving What I'm saying I'm very aware That I work with the degenerates I'm talking about The Outside of this room Like y'all saying It's like that For Ray J I saw the internet saying I think so I think people want to see A spectacle And I think Ray J got knocked out The first time This is his comeback match Why wouldn't people Want to see it People expected a train wreck And got exactly What we wanted People want to be entertained They don't want to see No strategic boxing Like yeah Let's market it over there They're going to come They're going to watch it And for those who want to see Clarissa Shields fight You get that too You know why Ray J Is such a genius Genius bro Absolutely I don't believe Anything that he does And there's an art to that He went out there And looked like He had absolutely No clue What a fight is How to fight How to move his feet How to move his hands In a fight And I just refuse To believe that's true About Ray J Maybe he's just One of the people I'm always being Denial about But he Him and They looked That was pretty bad That was an absolute Shit show out there But boy I was glad they did it I was glad they did it It was entertaining What do you think Is more entertaining Him come out And really showcase That he could fight Put dude out quick Pause Or Give us this spectacle Like this That everybody's going to Keep talking about I thought it would be Really entertaining If Ray J Just stay home And watch TV No That would be Super entertaining Yeah but it don't Pay the bills Exactly We live in an Algorithm world Got seven figures To get in the ring Did it Yeah Where did that Come from I didn't see Nobody say that What did he get I hate when you do this I'm really trying to ask you Somebody told me I don't know how true it is But I'll tell you Who told me And I think it has A little bit of validity Whoever told you You believe it Yeah Hold on They're making money over there They're making money over there They are making money They're making money over there They was getting with A.B. and Dean That whole shit They're making money over there Yo be clear Because I'm picking up Some of what y'all putting down I'm not slighting The business operation of Zeus I'm saying For the business operation Of Clarissa Shields To look like It's supposed to look They should separate themselves And I think Or go back to the drawing board And figure out How to make it look More like Jake Ball Makes it look I think this is The intermediate step I think step one Is her being lower in the card Yes You hear me The first step Is her being lower in the card The second is her being At the top of the card But needing these shenanigans On the card And then if she builds this up At some point Then you have a full Normal traditional card But I think this is The intermediate step As they build the business up Because again Like you said She's her The problem with her talent Is just There's not an appetite For women's boxing enough To put on the kind of show That you're talking about Which I agree Would be dope At this stage Yo you gotta take it back To the old school then Yo Take it back To the old school Before Kimbo Slice Jumped in the ring When there was Nobody to fight Know what he was doing He's popping up In niggas backyards Yup Yo A regular Regular dude human Of a small stature You wanna You wanna get at it And he would beat the air I would be glued to it Let Clarissa Shields Just start popping up In bitches backyards And beating them up then Just beat up some bitches We know can't fight Don't give me the illusion That it's about to be a fight When it ain't about to be no fight Right Now I was watching that fight I was like Yo dawg Ain't nobody gonna fight You girl Like they gotta They gotta do That's probably how They ended up with her They gotta put you down Yo Yo they gotta Cause she be online Yo dawg Nobody's fighting you Not a girl Oh no They not fighting you You be stupid You be dumb as hell To fight that lady You be dumb I'd like to see some Of the UFC fighters Who have strong Boxing backgrounds Jump over Even the older ones Like Amanda Nunes Like I think those Would be interesting fights Very much so Cause I've seen Clarissa Do MMA I'd like to see them That would be That would be a card That they could sell To some other Boxing enthusiasts Yeah Do you think the look That is Cause I'm I'm understanding What you're saying You're saying that Like at least with Jake Paul They invested They made it look real They put The people That's known in boxing And brought Cause Zeus Whoever did it Cause first of all It was live on Danzen One two Whoever did it I mean they had Floyd there They had Shakur there They had everybody And Danzen is making moves Yeah They had everybody there So are you talking About the optics of it Or are you just talking About making it a shit show By putting Ray J and them on that Like leading up to the match Cause I'm trying to see Are you saying that How it looks On the screen Are you saying It looks like It looks like some For lack of a better term Like just some Bush League shit It looks Bush League As well as the undercards I'm talking about The undercards Oh but you're not Talking about the look Like the That's what he's saying He's talking about The technical aspect Or All of it Besides the main event Gotcha Got it The main event Looks like a boxing main event You saying it like Clarissa Shields Should never be on a card With Ray J and Orlando Byrne No No matter what If you want me to take it serious As a professional boxer No There's no excuse for that It just shouldn't happen I understand Ray J's Incentive to do it Yeah But I get hurt And while we at that Yo Hey John man I get it You gotta support your brother Boy it bothered me To see Brandy support a brother Yeah Why? Because Brandy's Not supposed to be there Because you hold her in higher regard Than I'm Brandy's Because Brandy's Not supposed to be there Brandy ain't supposed to be In the streamer house And you see what happened When she came in Bro time's changed bro Nigga it changed I know you about to argue I'm not about to argue It just changed No no no And there's a valid argument In what you're saying I should've went backstage We're cursing There's a super Valid argument In what you're saying You put me on You know it's changed You saw this coming You saw this coming Everything changed Where the money was at The money's not there anymore Where the money is at Is in this world It completely changed You know what you're doing Niggas is getting paid 300, 400,000 You sound like a rich dinosaur Niggas getting paid 300, 400,000 250 To just to show up Yeah Nigga Them niggas that's streaming In that warehouse Nigga A million a month Or more A month Show on your flip Look So everything's changed I don't know What's going on Yes You can't just do whatever For short money man But everybody ain't you Anybody ain't you lord Everybody ain't you kid Sure Everybody ain't you I heard Sure Them niggas is getting to it though Them niggas is getting to it So I understand Like to There's a lot of people That I see that pops up On the stream And you be like Oh damn But everything changed It's not the way it used to be So now people are trying Yo flip is right It's like somebody said I'm on the other side of this But I acknowledge that Flip is right In what you're saying 10 years ago When you first started podcast The niggas looked at that shit Like it was goofy Niggas looked at it Like it was goofy Rappers Hip hop niggas All of them Looked at that shit And shunned it Until you start showing Some level of success with it And niggas like Oh if he could do it I definitely could do it Niggas start hearing them numbers Nah I gotta do this Let's go get a vibe Like yo dawg This is just a new thing It's evolution Them niggas putting out albums And stuff like that No disrespect to my mans And whoever I'm not talking about them Certain people putting out albums And stuff like that Them niggas just get like With 2,000 streams nigga And I can get able to get that I saw Joe Dude I'm able to get this And I'm able to talk about it And niggas wanna hear my story And I'm able to get paid And I might be able to go get a bag From somebody Just based off my rap name Or my entertainment name I could go get a bag Don't gotta recoup nobody Not just that My bag I could go get From having this podcast Is a bigger bag Than I could go get as a rapper Yes Like my stock is up now I agree with what y'all saying I also think we are having Two different conversations My conversation Is not a bad conversation - No, you're saying that certain levels of people shouldn't be associated with certain-- Brandy is one of them names They're gonna offer her Let's call it seven figures Yeah Or a high six figures To show up on the stream Anybody with a brain Is taking it So I get that I'm sitting on the couch Saying what I'm saying Brandy for who she is Even if that's true That she gonna take that money Right in the contract That Dean the Great Gotta get out the house Hey Dean Hey Dean Dean the Great didn't do nothing I mean not Dean Not Dean I'm sorry I didn't mean Dean I take that back It wasn't Dean That Adrian Brown Asked to get out the house Cause there's a culture clash now And you have introduced A great point Hollywood is under pressure From the streamers The music business Under pressure from the streamers Niggas with the money Some of these companies It's in streamer land And that's where it's at But there is a culture clash Because in streaming It's real time Rah rah rah Do whatever you want Say what you feel Fake a fight Punch a nigga in the face Throw a glass over here Get some bitches around Yada yada Whatever that is All those things Don't align with who Brandy is I see what you're saying Yeah So if you're just talking money I get how it makes sense I'm not I'm talking about It would be like fucking Cicely Tyson Showing up on a stream To me It would be like Fucking Patti LaBelle And Adrian Broner Being in the same stream And Patti LaBelle Probably get five million To sit there with him And go through it But niggas at home And our grandmothers Would be like What the fuck is Patti LaBelle doing Talking about money To Adrian Broner And Adrian Broner Can't be trusted To be in a room And talk to So you talking about money To get to the money We got to start with trust Can we trust everybody To do their job And do what they're supposed to do Especially if Fucking Tevin Campbell Or somebody walk in here Adrian Broner Should not be In the same vicinity As Brandy Sorry I think that's part The trust part You're talking about Is where Is why the money coming in That's one too I don't think they're gonna let We want you to do that That's why the money's coming in That's where the entertainment value is This motherfucker did When Patti LaBelle Came in the room yo He dropped a piece of power Like yo bruh Yo I'm never gonna All the way vibe With you niggas that Not y'all I'm not talking about that With you niggas That's gonna Justify Caricature Coonish Just Hop around Meek Bunny dance For Michael If you can understand that Then we ain't We ain't never gonna Really see eye to eye We ain't What did he do? I'm watching that Cause y'all are right The world we in today And I'm saying this In response to y'all Because y'all are right The people They wanna see Somebody who ain't Supposed to be there With somebody Who is supposed to be there They wanna see him Dispected And walk by They probably Hey they was in our ears And fucking loving hip hop Yo when Safari come in Tell a nigga Put his face in the sand Alright I got you Even though that was me I was like don't But I get it Is all I'm saying It's just As somebody watching That's familiar with Brandy It's like We gotta support our brother Right there That gave the Norwoods A fucking big ass bag Get Adrian Browning The fuck out of the house I understand I understand Where you're coming from When you say it But what did he do? But he's part of the show Brandy's wife He's the main part of the show I don't think That's what I'm saying So we talking about The nigga that's intoxicated He was saying He was saying She behaved in a way I don't wanna speak For other people Cause Brandy handled it With class and elegance She was like I'm being a car I'm gonna get out of here But she She came in Walked by him Acknowledged him But maybe it wasn't The acknowledgement That he would've liked So when she went to talk To her brother Ray J He came over there And just interrupted Yeah It hit different now Like which is some shit That don't nobody know What the fuck you talking about Cause you off your rocker And Ray J's like What hit different? He's like Yeah Brandy's brother It hit different Yo dawg Whatever shit you do When we alone And Brandy ain't here You wanna call me names And get in my face That's guy shit Yeah My sister's here And she's her She's a girl She's a goddess And she's her Yeah And it could get serious Over this It could be off content Over this Move nigga Move You look dumb And see I think And I'm saying that About Adrian Adrian Broner Ain't proved he know Know how to be around The raggedy Bronx bitch So why the fuck Are we all Why we put Brandy there? He ain't proved He know how to be around The fucking The scallywag From the valley That's just around Drunk off Hennessy I don't know I can't Nah nah I know that's your man Ride for him Nigga I'm saying what I'm saying And you can't squash him I'm not trying to squash him Nigga that's my man I'm riding with my man That's one Who's your man Ray J or Adrian? Both of them But I'm Both of them I'm cool with both of them But I fuck with Adrian Broner One Two It's a bigger picture than that I feel like Niggas is the way That my nigga is drinking He's getting drunk Whatever it is And these situations Are being presented That's it It's a whole Like It's It's bigger than that I don't wanna Point that out Come up here already And say Yo I feel like Certain people Are taking advantage Of Adrian Broner I don't wanna You came up here And said that Yes I don't wanna Point the fingers But I've witnessed And I'm just seeing Adrian Broner While being intoxicated First of all The people outside I just did a blog On this yesterday And they're cursing me Out on Twitter Saying that Adrian's responsible For himself But I've watched When I went to Florida The people outside Giving him drinks I watched the girls You know I'm about Taking advantage I saw that And when I got Involved It was like Yo flip that nigga Mind your business But I saw them Doing that So now you're Feeding that And also taking The camera out And recording him Calling him a clown So all of this Is happening And I feel like What's happening Is that Not only that They're encouraging Some people are Encouraging him to drink They're putting him In environments Where his drinking Could work against him And I feel like Somebody need to be Put there Or they need to Either remove him From it Or somebody need to Put there to help him Who cares about him I see Dean trying So I give him that You know what I mean And bright But I'm telling you What I see So I get what you're saying That's why I asked If he was drunk Or intoxicated But these niggas Is feeding him drinks Not the motherfucking Production team But just the environment The people outside The people all around You know the bad part is That's the show Like That's the entertainment Love and hip hop Was feeding Motherfuckers drinks Because we know Your inhibitions are down When you drink You're going to be Less controlled Yeah but that was More controlled In my opinion Love and hip hop Was more controlled Absolutely It got there This is reality It got there This is reality Where a nigga have a drink A girl walking by He grab my hand She can say Yo he touched me Uncomfortably Like these things Are dangerous So what We going to keep Feeding the beast Or we going to try To get the nigga help Because the nigga Could be entertaining Without a drink In today's society Depending on where The numbers are If the numbers High enough We ain't going to feed We going to keep Feeding the beast Because the beast Is going to feed them And it's unfortunate And probably got a clause In there if you do something Clip You on your own I think that you're asking A very valid question And a great question What I'm saying is Until there's an answer To that question Keep Brandy out Brandy shouldn't be buying Gotcha What I'm saying Is not really an indictment On AB and whatever He's going through I'm talking about Brandy And Brandy's team Making certain Yeah get the Yeah That's what I got man That's what I got Yo you wrote something On the board I didn't write Nothing on the board I'm sorry You said something Should be written On the board I was just trying to make Good content By getting to it But yeah You fucked the You fucked the Clipping game up gang Let me talk to you real quick How'd we get there? Because I want to I'm going to flip Okay Let me see something Let me tell you something Yes sir It's like Floyd Mayweather Going into Into the expedition The ex Exhibition Exhibition That's good Yeah whatever Don't make fun Because I'm going to get mad At you too Because I'll be getting mad And I love you You're my brother Don't say spelling bee Nigga I heard you I have to pay attention Because you be saying A lot of stupid shit Floyd Mayweather Going to a spelling bee I shake my hand I apologize No but nah Nah nah That's my man Listen you came Into the clipper game You bodying it Thank you I got the shit On your YouTube The see The AdSense I got the whole shit What you doing Why you got all this I got you Because I got to see What you making You got pocket watch technology Yes Yeah he does He actually does I've seen this for a while A long time I thought I was thinking He was joking No When you When you said the eight minute mark I knew what you was doing Boy you can move You can move the fucking Cool But you did You messed it up For the smaller creators Mark No Because now When the price go up They're not making What you're making They're not The price ain't going up You think that nigga Playing This nigga Jesus nephew Nigga you think he playing This nigga is Moses God son The funny shit is Joe talk about the clippers It was a gift to him What Mark is doing He happy as shit That you did that I know No it's fire That Mark is doing it But when Unless Joe put on the act He's not put on the act He's not Okay if it's going up for real Mark fucked it up Joe wouldn't do that And even if he would There's no way Ian Schwartzman Would support Make it more money You be it for Oh just Let me ask you a question You be it for the people You be it for the people Can you see how that Could be an issue Cause you know You're a people I know it's not intentional They didn't learn you I know it's not But whatever you pay in a month Cause I know what's going on Whatever you pay a month You make it You're making that In one video Or more in one video No it's not It's not getting carried away You bugger You talking to Flip You're talking to Flip My nigga The views How fast it gets to the views I seen it I understand it So do you think It's fair to the other creators That nigga got PhD in that shit Do you think it's the other That's where his PhD at Exactly Do you think it's fair To the other creators Or do you feel like Honestly I do I do And I'll tell you why That's why I'm here for me It comes out It comes out You're gonna tell your wife His PhD You're gonna tell your wife That nigga I'm gonna pay my father - Pound it, pound it. and deeper right this is the thing first of all I think most people I had a long conversation with Ian on Sunday about this oh yeah I had to check in and some people have bought into the licensing thing the $500 but a lot haven't because people were trying to say that Joe and Ian were vultures and that they were preying on people and trying to sell them dreams what I'm doing is showing you that all things are reality all things are possible no but it's true people know this bullshit you can actually create some shit you know what I mean if you want to now everybody's not going to do what I'm doing on it because I have a bigger platform but no but what I'm saying it's not like there's a bunch of people doing it whose money's going to shrink there's a bunch of people not doing it who are going to create something for themselves that's how I'm looking at it and some of the people who have been doing it and making money they've been bootlegging their content so they've been making it but they've been stealing it so I'm not worried about them you know what I mean because that's my man I got you you know so that's how I look at it but look to whom it may concern if you listening out there I don't this letter ain't got no name on it next week's price no I said that already I said that last week I don't keep asking the same point I don't know who needs to hear this but whoever spoke to Ian Schwartzman Sunday night and told him don't tell Joe certain shit he told that was a mistake one he told Joe Sunday night that was always a mistake one he told Joe Sunday night as soon as he got off the phone yeah he might have been on the phone right so I'll say this again to you if you indeed said anything to Ian Schwartzman he said it to me now with that said Mark brother Mark come on how's it feeling man come on real talk how's it feeling how's it feel what how's it feeling out there it's good you know for me it's about getting the information out to the people and I feel like being able to distribute information that's already been given out it was already out there to the people they didn't know no no I feel you on that how's your wife feeling now that you're getting that information out there to the people I haven't fully disclosed to her how much information I'm getting out how much information came back fuck what went out how much information came back it's going out I don't know what it's doing I don't know what it's doing but does she see a change does she see that you putting out more information no I've tried to shield her from that information because I don't want to unsettle her you know it's a lot to think about she got her own stuff to deal with that's facts and sometimes if she thinks too much information is coming in she has a desire to put more information back out that's facts Flip you don't need if you're doing this on the Clipper tier you don't need to make as much money as Mark is making you need to make $500 you need to break even $500 and 25 cents I'm going by what you said if you didn't say what you said I wouldn't have said it's simple math if you didn't go by you know what time it is because you do this I do it's simple math it's simple math I'm trying to kill this is what it is look it's just a math problem this is what it is the first 10 days it's not that much I'm just saying my shit yeah la la la la seriously it's not that much that's good it's good but I mean it's not it's a good time to join that Clipper tier raise the price at this particular price point in the near future the price will be different go ahead get started now to get grandfathered in man that's all I'm going to say and I ain't going to coerce niggas into a good time you can't make them want it I'm not going to twist your arm there we go and that's where my conversation is right there so I was watching a conversation between LeBron James and Channing Frye I'm going to get back to him when he get off vacation I was watching a conversation between LeBron James and Channing Frye actually I'll just play it for you guys so you understand where I'm coming from do do do do do do do do do do do where is it where is it here it is what I'm refusing to do is yell at somebody that don't want it no you can't LeBron no way no no no here's no just hear me out just hear me out I'm going to say just one sentence me Channing who has done it who was a late bloomer who was bullshit in high school who was bullshit the first time the first three years okay cut cut edit cut edit no get that shit out don't get keep following that keep following that bro I had people he played here he went bullshit what do you want like he was oh I told him I already told him I already told him he played here he played here what are you doing what were you all right come on come on I made a fucking fast forward y'all here we go where he thinks he is is not right from our perspective is the greatest feeling because I've seen it I've seen a kid who was like yeah I just want to you know maybe I want to play JV I go talk you're not a JV kid you're a Marcy kid like if you just did ABCD three four times that's in the clip you'd be amazing you're not you're not saying what I was saying what are you saying I'm saying in a simple fact like if a kid miss a workout I'm not blowing your phone in bro what if a kid miss a workout I'm going if I'm see you're growing a startup I'm not you can't make him want it I can't do it Mr. LeBron is it not the truth anyway I'm tired of that jazz music you're the gist of it either that was the gist of the conversation my question to y'all is just like you just heard can you make someone want it no not really yes you can you can you can try well you can try but if you show them what comes with it a lot of times people lack the motivation to work to get it so if they see what comes with it they see the other side of it it can then ignite something in them and say oh shit alright if I could if you show them you become the blueprint basically I feel like usually when you do that you're trying to square peg round hole you're trying to force someone into something that they don't see for themselves it's like imparting you can impart work ethic I guess but but only you can inspire them though absolutely by showing them there's some things that people would be against initially until you show them and if they have the work ethic they can they was they can get into it some people don't know what it takes you can make them more successful thank you some people don't know what it takes hold on I'm clearing out I'm clearing out I got it no no I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking I'm joking don't do that again I just wanted to talk some shit don't do that again okay I'm sorry that was my bad that was nobody's bad but mine I'm sorry don't touch me bro some people don't know exactly what the blueprint to success is I'm going to use a good example like Charles Barkley right? he said that when he got to the Sixers in 84 he was fat Moses Malone said to him you're fat and lazy you know what I mean and from him he learned to diet he learned to work harder he understood the pathway but my point is by the time you get to end Charles Barkley's career what the great great say about him like the Scottie Pippens and more importantly the Michael Jordans is he still didn't do that yeah people can get better but if it ain't in you that thing ain't in you I'm sure that's a pause you can't we're mature yeah we don't need to pause everything oh okay well if that thing ain't in you nobody else can put it in there for you sure alright now we're pausing that one you took it too far he checked I agree yeah and that's what I find and conversely because I've seen people with extraordinary talent and resources and opportunity amount to nothing amount to absolutely nothing and I also think it becomes a law of diminishing returns if you are the LeBron or the Joe Budden or the Mark Lamont Hill of your field but why am I gonna work this hard at trying to get you to care about something if you're no I can't that is not worth the time so you're changing it now why you're saying work this hard I'm not saying that the effort has to be hard you can make someone want it that's all the question was can you make somebody want it Mark's response to that is the work ethic is part of the wanting it to me I'll use myself for example Joe's told me timeless times about alright you just don't want the money you're just stupid whatever start XYZ I'm talking about this is going back probably 15 at least 12 years I remember and then when you start to see oh shit there is really something here maybe I should have listened it ain't he didn't it's not that the work ethic wasn't there I know you've always been a hard worker that's why look I don't think this quite applies to your situation you're not that person it's not about work ethic that's what I'm saying it's not about work ethic it is it is it absolutely is it is wanting it comes with having to work for it not always no no no in my experience 100% of the time the work ethic or the willingness to put in the work doesn't necessarily mean you don't want it like you can want something and not really understand what it takes to get there you follow what I'm saying see I think then you don't really want it I think you don't want it then you're looking you're looking at it from a physical you're looking at it from a physical want perspective right sometimes you're wanting it is reading the books can you pull that mic closer to you sometimes you're wanting it is reading the books doing the research doing all the ground work to figure out how it takes to get there right and a lot of times so I don't think you could give it I've held people's hands people like y'all want to pardon me I want to get in real estate business I've literally held niggas hands and bought a house with them and walked them through everything that they had to do to flip the house. a good profit and just didn't go back because everybody don't want to work to get yeah that's true like you couldn't make them you can't you can't i don't think i think you know what makes people or is the biggest motivator when you hit rock bottom and when you hit rock bottom that'll motivate a motherfucker like no tomorrow but i don't think you could get them there i don't think you can make somebody else want it i don't think so i've been around rich niggas my whole life and i've been complacent a lot of times i procrastinate like crazy and i've seen money of a lot you know i'm saying podcasting people like yo why you don't go do this why you don't go do that i see joe make a shit ton of money i've been friends with joe for a long time i've seen joe's progression from a long long time ago so if that's something that i really really wanted to do i could i also think that it's okay if you don't want it or a success yeah you shouldn't be there if you don't want to be there right agreed i think the hard part sometimes is when you're mentoring or parenting because sometimes you want them to want it or you want them to be the kind of person you want it that wants it or want something right because it ain't about the thing right you know what i mean like i didn't like my daughter i wanted her obviously i would have loved for her to play basketball she didn't want to but at some point it was like i just want her to be passionate about something right and to want to go balls to the wall for whatever it is whatever the thing is you know what i mean and there are people and she does do that for the thing she cares about now in fact she's supposed to the first sub stack article today i'm really proud of her congrats but like relations you know you you gotta instill in them an example but some kids some people will never have it no matter how hard you do it she got it but i know people who don't and a lot of times they're the kids of people who are very very very successful you know and that's the thing that i find the most interesting it's not you know what i mean yep because your parents are super duper duper successful sometimes it you never even had to dig deep for that thing you know what i mean because you never hit rock bottom right for you know what i mean but then i look at people like kobe or not just people who are the opposite it's different yo it's not even that your parents are super successful he's what he's a mutant yeah kobe bryan michael jordan some niggas like that they just mutants him his work ethic is just something different and his belief in himself is just something different everybody don't have that i know people that have it bro i know some niggas even in any game like we used to be outside yeah i know some people bro it don't matter if it's 10 long they just got something in them bro that's just this innate thing where they're gonna just be the best at whatever it is that they said they're gonna try their best at least you know what i'm saying some people usually you'll land somewhere everybody don't have some people are okay with mediocrity yeah they are they just they want happiness like i want some you know i mean a trip every year um a decent neighborhood my honda accord and there's nothing wrong with that i'm not saying that until you get until you experience something else they've been around other shit not for them bro we mean you had that talk about when i'm like i'm cool i'm cool with this i'm cool with that what did you say you say that now you used to kind of denounce because you're you know no he used to denounce some of the shit like yo you would denounce it and i'm like yo a lot of times i have friends right and i think that's a self-sabotaging thing where you don't want to strive for something so you'll just put this negative stamp on it right yeah um so i used to be telling ice like watch you gonna see i used to be like i'm gonna fuck about first class now i'm still going the same spot yeah but again see because until what i said though yeah and what i said on the first oh until you experience it yourself oh shit now i understand what you was trying to tell me before the state you gotta you gotta experience this shit what about some people don't end up there but hold on what about people that have i think you are better different what about the people that have no choice because park said you have it's a you said something it was a choice earlier right which part if you want to do it you do it right what about the people that has no choice but to do it rock bottom yeah yeah you said that earlier but that's that's that's something that's that's a motivator too that's something that we don't touch on a lot you see sometimes you'll be put in a position because your man may be put in a position and you may not see fuck you you may not see the value or may not want to do it but you may not have any choice but to do it sometimes family things like that so you have to put your best foot forward in that situation something that you didn't see yourself being the best some people's plan b was planted say it again i'm sorry some people's plan b was yeah yeah so that's what i'm saying like there's a lot of people in the world that i can i'm one of them sometimes you just have no choice nigga like i got no choice let me tell you i mean and i don't know you no but we don't have to make it like that but i'm just saying i'm speaking from something because i spoke to joe one time like i don't but i had no choice but whatever my situation was at that time it didn't warrant me there was no other way yeah but flip other people came up the exact same way you did like i i don't know as well as they do but i feel very confident getting chased i don't flip i don't i feel confident no matter what situation you would you would be and you would make it out and that you would find a way to survive it and thrive at he works hard i agree with that's what i have no doubt no matter what happened if your channel got shut down tomorrow god forbid if if you caught a kid whatever the situation is in six months or a year you'd be back where you were i agree i just know that but there are people who grew up in the exact same circumstances you or worse who don't end up there and i'm not got it and i'm not to be clear i'm not reducing people's outcomes to desire because there's a lot of systemic social institutional shit that makes it hard to thrive for sure but at the level of individual choice there are people who got this thing and you have it you know you know everybody don't got it you know what else yo it's also people that never never never failed and i say never failed because like i again i'm gonna use myself as an example coming up hey if this ain't work out if lost my job tomorrow and didn't know how to pay rent i'll call my grandparents yeah i'll always had a fallback so it it it goes back to what you said about the successful people where it's like i'm not worried about what happens if this don't work because i know i got somebody in my corner what's the saying strong men it took a long time to get out and then went three steps the outcome strong men softball or some shit yo all right all right yo it's been a great show strong men scream aloud what is it yo i don't think they say that i don't even know they that lady named you was calling i gotta reverse i gotta intro the topic and get my shit out the way early because y'all want to get to the hemisphere of just talking it ain't coming back that ball did not come back no but you can get it finished you can keep going i think i said everything i need to again it's only confusing because when when he says it when lebron says this right is under the they're already talking about a team so it's assumed that we want the same thing got it right and it's the highest once you get to individually it's not assumed that we all want the same thing a lot of pro sports people be on business not on yeah yeah and as they don't be yo joe we don't want the same things nope you are assuming because somebody's on a team that they want to win a championship everybody don't want to win a championship and we see that clearly especially now how some people might play hurt some people might not play some don't even like playing basketball i mean that's the thing i learned talking to pros that a lot of them don't like playing basketball yeah all right i don't know what y'all talking about now like good i know what you're talking about in sports i'm just staying in sports you can want different things normally the path to achieve that comes down to what you're putting on film if you want a big payday and you don't give a fuck about rings it come down to what you're putting on film if you want to win a ring it come down to what so there is some stay there and what what do we see happen consistently in basketball when it's a nigga's contract year he go crazy they go nuts get the contract and then go crazy and go back to smooth sailing and complacency and in music and in podcasting and everything their goal is the money well there are people that are tasked with having to figure out the tricks of people masquerading around like they want it those people that perform in the contract year and have every intention on chilling after that i think i heard jr smith recently talking about that uh yeah there's people that have to be prepared for when you do the fuck shit so that you're not fucking other people people get paid off potential in in sports they get paid off potential so we're gonna pay you based on what we think you can do so what's your man name that kicked ass that one playoffs for the knicks that we used to be outside with jerome james and he didn't kick ass for the next he kicked ass on the sonics sonics and y'all gave him that 30 million dollar contract whatever the fuck that was now he was pulling up to the club and i'm fucking fanning him taking all me and ish bitches yo bro it's been going on in sports since the beginning of the time i just think that what they talking about is some people want to get better some people don't want to get better and the difference with the sports shit is the benchmark so if my numbers do say this i could just walk in there and Y'all paid that person that amount. person that amount i'm only averaging seven points less than him so yeah what's up it's hard it's hard to say oh well you just did it for the contract and that and that's the want that part some people want just enough to meet their needs let's use a podcast example because i think you're a good example of this um if you knew the subs wouldn't change and the money wouldn't change regardless of what kind of performance we put on you would still prepare for a good show every day right yeah you got damn right that's what i'm saying because you you want it some people if that's why i i also i've i've learned that i'm that i'm a bad example to use and if i used me it would always lead to disappointment and being let down because my work ethic is different and it would almost be unfair to look at somebody else and using me as a barometer saying oh you're not moving like this so you don't want it you cycle but the work ethic might be extreme right just like the kobe example right but the point is there's a thing in you that no one had there's a switch no one had to turn on it's just there i'm sure it had to be turned on at some point in life but life might have turned it on true bros because you do have to have it modeled for you but some people have never had a model and still do it but my point is there's some people who don't have that gear or they're savvy enough to know look my subs are up my subs are down let me put on a good show today let me do something today let me do something viral today because i don't want to lose my money they're motivated by stuff you're motivated by intrinsic stuff and i think that's the can you make someone want it the nba is filled with people that know what they have to do to get to the nba and stay in the nba but lebron's talking about a different gear the gear that gets him there at 5 a.m yes yeah that's a different gear and you can't make somebody want that but it's a cold but when he was like yo afterwards we're going to the club the club i'm going to shoot right and the thing but here's the thing kobe did kobe used to work out with us in high school he would after after practice he would go and do something different and i'm like i'm going to do something different and i'm going to and work out then get a shooter and shoot we would play at eight o'clock we'd go home because we were normal people who just play basketball all day he would be out there at st joe's to 10 11 o'clock shooting war no one had to teach him this and his dad was in the nba right he lived on the main line he wasn't hungry you know what i mean he was talented he didn't have to overwork a lack of talent he just had a thing it was in him he wanted to be the best and none of us had that shit not for that well that's the thing when you hear for lebron is a champion d wade is a champion but when you hear them talking about that olympic team and them coming back from the club and kobe was already in the gym like nobody's gonna say to lebron and duane wade don't want it right but there's another level to what wanting it looks like there's another another level of work that goes into i think you can be shown that i think you can be yeah you can be i think you can i think you can be taught that then explain let me just talk for a second i think you can i think you can to answer the original question make somebody want it maybe with that though why would the person that has it want to keep doing that to what park said earlier like web used to tell me yo dog i got mine love if you never rap if you want to fuck around go to the club not at the studio not do the mixtape not do the radio shit i'm good do it i'm fine already i i will never have to do none of this shit i ain't forcing you i ain't begging you to do this love yo you want you want more for the people you love the people you see potential one you want more for them right so you know they got you you kind of can see something yeah you it's a love thing i know you could do it and i want better for you and your family bleak said jay came to his door and was like yo my nigga i'm rich do y'all have experience in seeing more in people than they've seen themselves yeah everybody yes yeah yeah everybody that's that's everybody i know everybody i know i could see and i'm sure the people that know me some of my friends have told me yo dog you could be doing great and this this this and this the people when you see that do you realize or do you come to grips with the fact that certain cars just have a limit on the speedometer yeah unfortunately yes i've come to realize that i didn't i that was the toughest realization for me that's why i was bringing up ben simmons for me the frustration isn't the person who's at level one who i know could get to level five it's the person who wakes up on level five without any effort that could be at level 10 so when i see somebody like ben simmons who like has all the natural talent in the world and i'm like you could have been anything you wanted and you just didn't have that thing to get you to the next level even though he's so phenomenally talented that's that when i meet those kind of people in life the person who's super smart super clever super resourceful super whatever and they just won't do the thing to get them to the next level but they're talented enough that they can fake it they can get through the world right and be successful and look like they're doing great because of their talent but they never do that other thing i just i almost resent it i get it i get it yeah i don't think you can be taught work ethic i think a lot of people are sometimes you just have to see it or have have a boss or a fucking older brother or sister or something that beats it into your head essentially your parent you know what i mean that's what i was that's what i was saying yeah how much time y'all willing to spend around people who don't want it uh today before you feel before you feel like it's affecting you i check out fast now i'm saying it depends on my relationship with the people yeah it depends and it depends on what we're doing like if we're just sitting around hey i want to go out to the bar and look at some titties or something we can do that but are we going to be in the studio or something no it depends on my relationship you know what i mean because i believe that the people you love you don't give up on them you know what i'm saying so the people that i i might mention it to you in january and curse you out a little bit no damn because i'm not i'm not i'm not putting you on my back i'm not boosting you up i'm not you're not living off of me you know what i'm saying like you're not leaning on me and i'm not that's enabling i think right when you when you are i mean you don't have to do it because i'm yeah you know what i'm saying like your kids we enable our kids like yo you you keep making the fucked up decisions but i'm gonna keep bailing you out but it has nothing to do with you like you're not in business it has nothing to do with it was not affecting you personally yeah yeah like i'm not because if it was affecting you personally you wouldn't right it would be sure it would be it would be a limit to it it's just i want it for you because i love you that's it yeah got you yeah yeah i think it depends completely depends we made the points yeah i like that kind of that's good yeah yeah it's such a good show man today was a good show it was i think i can get like eight out of this one yeah he making money y'all bird ass nigga mark kill it flip yes sir doing so much i want longer episodes now i think patreon should be like four hours oh hell no nigga mark this is the mark bucket bitch yeah he's crazy it's hard to find a song with y'all on the microphone what's wrong with you while you look for your song did anybody see a lioness oh hell yeah oh there we get to the end of the did we see lion that was the best episode of lioness ever they were the best one ever they're in their bag i'm not gonna kill her husband this week but i want to i wanted to i'm just not gonna do it every week nah this week he wasn't he was a little more yeah he's a he wasn't as bitchy but he was come on somebody get us to the greater point in the lioness come on ish come on this is all it's i show no no no what's happening i i watched this episode three times i watched i've watched it twice and i'm still on the fence i think next episode will reveal more but spoiler alert to anybody um i think in all season they've been playing a time game where they jump me up yeah past tense six months ago this happened their pulp fiction shit i'm kind of fucked up and again spoiler alert to anybody that's watching um i don't know if when the season three i mean episode three goes off if that's current no or past future that's current see every i'm glad everybody's i thought it was current i'm glad everybody's future well it's what you mean the main storyline that's happening is all i guess that's the past right i think what she is being you know interrogated and all this shit is what's happening i guess it's now but it's the future so you think it's current yeah yeah only it's current my only drawback is when she got kicked first when the dudes came to her door at 10 o'clock in the morning she shot the two russian yeah she was in her house yeah the red brick house yes cool when she got kidnapped she kid came from the red brick house did she yes yeah remember when she got kidnapped they backed out ran through the house came out that is the past i didn't realize that remember when she got kidnapped she backed out the driveway and then her husband went to back out the driveway to take the kids to school it was the same house yeah cool at the end of episode two she leaves and goes to the white house yeah at the end of episode two so it's kind of fucking me up because they haven't shown her go back yet exactly that's the only part that's confused they haven't shown the family go back to the other house yeah and i watched me and my girl had the same conversation about because i was confused too i thought that they took her from the the new relocation house but they did not red talk to me about come on give me a bag yeah you know we had geoeconomic politics no that's the best shit it is what what drew me in the lioness was season one when nicole kidman and her husband used to be having these conversations that were way against the shoot up bang bang shoot kill him die slow shit the shit that the worldly shit where they start talking about the inner work what's going on and a lot of times some of this war shit be based on economics which i always say right so when she gets into that conversation i didn't even know the nigga's name nigga name is Her husband's name is Errol, I think. Niggas hit me like, yo, that nigga's the man. And he starts describing how China and Russia are basically competing. They just compete in different ways. Russia is about brute strength. China is about slow walking you with the information and changing you. And he said, basically, they set out a 50-year plan that they started in the 60s. And now that plan is coming to realization. They the what war? Only to have the Russian girl damn near reiterate everything he said. She called China the tiger and called Russia a pack of wolves. Neither one of them can beat the bear. And America is the bear. So you know what they do. And they can't play together. They infect the bear with disease. And the disease was the information, misinformation, and all of those things that they couldn't achieve. Bro, that episode was fucking amazing. It was. It was. From a mental, they didn't kill one nigga. That shit was amazing. It was. Lioness is in. And they in a classic TV moment right here. Yeah, bro. I hope they continue, boy. I was there for When the Wire, The Sopranos. Yo, they right there. What they're doing and what they have potential to do. Right? Because this is episode three. Yeah. It was so phenomenal. I was very glad that they didn't hit us with two episodes on the debut. I was mad. I was sorry. But now that I see where they're going and what they're doing and how they're handling this. Yeah, slow walk this dog. This cinematography. Again, the past. The future. Ten episodes and we still got to get to where they at currently. Bro. Yeah. And what they plan on doing about it. No. That's the end of the season. It's a bunch of precursors. When she said, yo, get her out of there because everybody breaks. Yeah. She's a civilian. Everybody breaks. So I don't know. I did the research. The Chinese torture shit that they had her with the water drop. Yeah. It's a real thing. So what they said is if the water keeps dropping on your head over a period of time, usually around 24 hour mark, every drop of water starts to feel like a sludge hammer is hitting you on your head. So it's only a matter of time before she could potentially break. She already broke with the fucking tracker on her foot. It didn't take much. They didn't torture her to get the tracker location out of her foot. I don't think she broke. She told. I don't think she broke at all. You will. You bitch ass. I don't. No, I'm playing. She dragged that as long as she could to buy her people more time to be able to find her. And then she told him where it was. I don't. I think she could have. She could have lasted longer. No. When that nigga pulled out the shears. She started hearing them tools clanking in that bag. And one of the things that they did, they started looking in other areas on her body. All right. We're telling the whole show now. Enough. Enough. I just want you to get to where they're going with it. Quick watch though if you want to catch up. First two was great. Amazing. Yes. That nigga Taylor Sheridan is in his bag. If you watch him, I'm watching him. He's in his bag, bro. He is. Yes, sir. You're as cold as ice. Yes. You really just feel the ice all night. You never take advice. It's me. I'm not going to take advice. it's awkward if I cut it back on. - I'm sure you guys-- or something you guys be safe yes sir stay blessed and remember nobody could squash it for me nobody could squash it if it's up it's up some of you mid-tier and low-level uh content creators and podcasters don't try to use none of us up here to get that ad sense popping you know i mean you get it popping it got to come from inside of you you gotta want it yo you gotta want it and with that said you've never heard of joe bud Thanks for watching!