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Episode 955 | "Lights, Lies, Action"

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Episode 955 | "Lights, Lies, Action"

The Joe Budden Podcast episode 955 features the usual panel—Joe, Ish, Parks, Mark Lamont Hill, and Mona—engaging in humorous, unfiltered banter. The show begins with a playful disclaimer, then dives into a debate on the terms "womanizer" and "whore," with Ish denying the former while admitting to the latter, leading to jokes about his past. The hosts share anecdotes about aging, including Parks’ discomfort reviewing his 2023 texts and the dangers of phone memories resurfacing explicit content. They then critique Lionel Richie’s comments on Motown artists’ misconduct, arguing that older musicians were equally flawed, and discuss the decline in teen pregnancy rates, attributing it to changing youth behaviors. The conversation pivots to workplace promiscuity, with jokes about teachers and podcasters, and the insult "suck my dick," where Mona recounts being hit with a bag of rocks. A major segment covers Ray Daniels’ claim about a finished Jay-Z album, Roc Nation’s denial, and Charlamagne’s "Donkey of the Day" award, which the panel deems excessive and possibly tied to Charlamagne’s business relationships. Interspersed are ads, NBA talk, and Ish’s new friendship with the Atlantic City mayor, which the hosts mock. The episode blends humor, personal stories, and pop culture commentary, maintaining a casual, irreverent tone throughout.

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. We're here. We're starting. They said that new Pooh Shiesty had Ice ready to fucking loiter. Ready to stand in front of a store. Little jaywalk. Ready to get some jaywalking on. Ready to commit some crimes. Litter. She had him ready to throw his fucking, some apple boxes on the floor. Pooh Shiesty had him ready, Mona, just so you know. Mona was asking about how Ice felt about Pooh Shiesty. Pooh Shiesty. No, actually, me and Mona were having a deep conversation about fucking race reparations, and Ice jumped in with some shit Pooh Shiesty said. That's how we ended up with Pooh Shiesty. That's literally what happened. That's what happened. Talking about the future of blacks. In the words of Pooh Shiesty. Here we're talking about the betterment of black people in the future, how our great-great-grandchildren could have a better life than us. He probably, you heard what Pooh Shiesty said. No, no, no. That's not what Pooh Shiesty said. Oh, we lying. Oh, that's right. No, we didn't hear what Pooh Shiesty said. We lying. You've been here five years. Nigga lies. Lights. Lights, lies, and action. Are you niggas always act surprised when the lies get to come up? Because you're doing shit so well. You retell a story that just happened three seconds ago and lie to all of us. I met you in 2005. Ish, where you at? I meet this nigga, man. I met him because of you. Yo, talk to me. Stop talking to Ish to talk to me. I'm sorry. I just did that. It's been since 2005, nigga. Lies, lights, and action. I get it. Ish introduced you to Ice. No, I'm lying. That's more like it. I'm lying. He's good. He is good. Ish is why I kept Ice close. Okay. What happened? What'd you meet? Who you knew first? I knew Ish first. Wait, how'd you meet Ish? Monopoly. Spades. Spades. Oh, a Spades game. Spades. I wouldn't think Ish was good at Spades. A homegirl of mine was bringing somebody, and Ish was the plus one. I'd have never invited no nigga like that into my Spades game, into my home. Oh, you were. And Ish was the plus one. Got it. So he came. Ate mad food, hungry, in the bathroom a lot, like, it was. Oh, God. Yeah. But he did have a good. But he should've cribbed on the first date. I'm lying on Ish. I'm lying on Ish. But that's how I met Ish. And then Ish was cool with Ice. This before I knew, Ish was cool with anybody that he talked to for 30 seconds. Right. So Ice was coming around, and Ice was kind of cool. So then we started doing some of the same things. Got it. Same thing, so. Yeah, and then we all kind of just stayed there. What year was this, fellas? When I met Ish, I was over there, so I had to call it 04. Damn. I was that nigga already, so I mean, it must have been 04, 05. And you were still making new friends? You were still making new friends? Yeah, no. Me and Ish was great. That's when you bonded with the people that were into the things you were able to do and able to move a certain way. So we both were whores. We both were whores and womanizers, and we bonded. We bonded like that. Is that a true story, Ish? You used to be a womanizer? Not that part. I'm just talking about that. I want to know about the womanizing. Never. Whore. Womanizer, no. Look what he copped to. Y'all both equally tied to that line. Both of y'all are equally good at lying. Thank you, Mona. Thank you, Mona. Thank you, Mona. You so disillusioned. You wasn't a womanizer. No. I was a whore. A womanizer is something different. What's the difference? Tell me. Explain it. Without your Andrew, here comes Chaz. Dude off the dome, man. Yeah, here comes this shit. That's the guy on the floor, bro. I'm about to make sure that my definition of womanizer. Freeze, what do you think while he's looking it up? We don't need dead air time. If he was a womanizer? Ever. If he's ever been. If he's ever womanized. I think everybody up here womanizes. Yeah, I think a whore, a male whore is a womanizer. Not Mark. I think it's different. I'm womanized. I've done both, but they're not the same. Oh, okay. Mark definitely womanized. Somebody explain to me what womanizing is. Yo, dog, that education Halloween mask. He hide behind it. Yeah, enough of him. You're brilliant, but still, you a nigga under there. I've had some. You womanized. You was a womanizer. At one point in my teens. I mean, teens. Some of your old work popped up on my algorithm. You know what? I was like, look at Mark. You know what? I say that when I see niggas old work. When they old work pop up, hey, look at this nigga. How you know it's the old work? Because some of his old work, we work the same jobs. Yeah, come on. We work the same jobs. No, no, no, no. Love, y'all. Exactly. Work the hell out of it, right? Hey, that's back when we was womanizing. Did you find that definition you was looking for? I didn't. You put the phone down. Y'all progress the conversation. Let's regress it. Let's regress the conversation now. A womanizer is a man who constantly pursues, flirts with, or has short-term sexual relationships with many different people. That is a war. It's the same thing. Are you still saying the same thing? So wait, let's ask the question again. I'd love to see him fight his way out of this one. No, no, no. Put that phone down. No, no, man. Quiet as a mouse. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, worker. Okay. We progress the conversation. One, I don't pursue. We call it. You pull the joke. You pull the joke. No, no, no. You just pull the joke. You pull the joke. No, I'm going to break it down. I don't flirt with. You pull the joke. You don't flirt with. What you call it? I don't flirt with him and I don't pursue him. Bro. He just lay there. You're going to just sit there. You're just going to sit there. It's your full presence. Yo, you're full of shit right now. You being full of shit right now. Bitch, now that you've read the definition, I'm removing myself because I feel like this is irrefutable evidence to what we're saying. Do you flirt back? When a woman flirts with you, what do you do? You just stand there? Just lay there. No, I talk back. You flirt back? Yeah. Then you flirt. I'm not pursuing them with that. Then he flirt first. Then he can flirt first. The fuck is he talking about, nigga? We seen this nigga now. Has short-term sexual relationships with many different women. Yo, you still reading? He often avoids commitment. Yes, why? Leaves partners on. Can't read your ass. He's just digging that shit. Yo, what are you arguing? You're bugging, yo. It's the room saying it. Why are you looking at me? All of these niggas don't know me outside. You do. I know you're outside. I don't know when I came back. I see some of this shit. I see women on you. Bro, every definition and every part of the definition, no. But a lot of that shit is you. Yo, you womanized. And it's okay. Okay. Everybody here is womanized. Everybody here is womanized at some point. And we learned and we grew and we matured. And now we don't womanize no more. And we've been manized. Yes. Oh, get the fuck on, Parks. Wait, I hope it means what I think it means. If it mean the opposite of womanized. Yo, you know what's so funny about that? Randomly, when I was taking a shit one of these days this week, it just popped into my head how much of a fucking whirlwind I was in when I learned bitches was dubbing me. Like, the game had changed at one point. Yeah. Like, they started, like, not texting back. Ghosting, getting ghosted. Yeah, like, the beginning of ghosting. When you got manized. The very beginning of, yes. And I didn't know. There's some manizers out there. I didn't know that was happening. Looking at you. A lot of men don't respond well in that scenario. And a lot of men will deny that it happened. It ain't fucking never happened. Nah, I was getting spun. I mean, after you were fucking with him already. Dubbed. After nothing. After that bum-ass shot. No, you can't fuck with him because it's a dub. Boogie woman. She out of here. No text back for days. Outside. You're done. You sitting in your best WID. You trying to ask questions. Yo, did you eat? Yo, are you safe? Are you alive? Nope, it's over. Radio silence, nigga. My favorite move. Then you crack them later and they explain it to you. No, they come back. You're a manizer. Yeah, Mona, you're definitely a manizer. I can't believe it. You tried to fight that. No, because I can't. No, what happened is my definition of womanizer wasn't that. What was yours? You think of Gigolo? Like somebody that abuses. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why I'm. Oh. Never. We would never think you were. But like, womanizer is like people that be manipulating and. Right, yes. That's not taking advantage of women. It's kind of just the whore thing. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of just that. I thought it was like something. Well, hey, now that we have the correct definition, and I'm going to start the show soon, audience. Bear with me. What age do you think you stopped being a womanizer? Let's get back to the boss. Somewhere in my 30s. In my 30s. Late. Like after 36. 46. Late later. Like 45, 46. I wasn't really taking inventory. Like, right down to the inventory. No, it's a big change, though. It's not even an inventory thing. It's such a big change. I think you would notice. They just, yeah, but I don't know the year. It's cool. It's cool. I'll jump out on the ledge. Not at all. It just started being too much. I was on my phone the other day. I'm trying to send my birthday dinner invitation to one of my old niggas that did security for me. He stopped doing security, but me and him used to have an absolute blast. But I ain't spoke to him in a while, but I would love to see him. So I'm on my phone trying to figure it out. Yo, how do I find this nigga? How do I find this nigga? And my girl started throwing me some keywords to search. Oh, that's a true message. She set you right up. Yeah. She was helping me. That's a setup. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. It sounds completely innocent. She was helping you. She wasn't on your phone. Yeah, but I didn't remember what his name was. She really was. trying to help me she wasn't on board security so she started throwing me these words she can't even see my phone i'm on the you think and then at some point she's like well what year was that again so she go on her phone start trying to help and find a year she find the year was 2023 she said yo go on your phone go to 2023 just you'll find it it's in there or it's around it's around december bomb i go in there text messages i'm in my text i'm scrolling she's not she's not doing what y'all said she's doing some girly shit you're not paying me no mind i'm scrolling in my text 2023 i'm scrolling in my text 2023 you gotta get out of 2023 i'm scrolling in my text 2023 fucking biting this shit baby no mind i'm in my nigga i am you know the part i was disgusted with how i was moving in 2023 oh nigga when that stop 2023 oh december moving like that 31st not that it was not that i was bugging out but just things that uh uh an involved man should be that was i don't know what was i was acting out yo it got so bad i turned to her while she was watching the good doctor or whatever bum ass show and i was like yo i ain't gonna hold you i'm sorry damn i'm sorry i didn't i needed to lay a new pair of eyes right on my 2020 three three three oh i don't know how you i love you thank you oh i don't know how you i love you thank you oh i don't know how you i love you thank you no thank you that was a mess in 2020 man that no thank you that was a mess in 2020 man that no thank you that was a mess in 2020 man that phone to you do you ever get hit phone to you do you ever get hit phone to you do you ever get hit with dimension the memories by accident with dimension the memories by accident with dimension the memories by accident oh my god i hate that nope oh my god oh oh my god i hate that nope oh my god oh oh my god i hate that nope oh my god oh you turned it off you turned it off i you turned it off you turned it off you turned it off you turned it off i don't have any pictures and don't have any pictures and don't have any pictures and videos well you get one of the memories videos well you get one of the memories videos well you get one of the memories mouthful i got pictures and videos of my mouthful i got pictures and videos of my mouthful i got pictures and videos of my phone back phone back phone back i started with a new phone every time i i started with a new phone every time i i started with a new phone every time i get a new phone i get more and more i get a new phone i get more and more i get a new phone i get more and more i keep your mouth talking no no no i want to keep your mouth talking no no no i want to keep your mouth talking no no no i want to no we were no we were aggressive no you know we were no we were aggressive no you know we all have phones sometimes we make we all have phones sometimes we make we all have phones sometimes we make videos that you eat you know what i mean videos that you eat you know what i mean videos that you eat you know what i mean boom boom mouthful of dick well you know boom boom mouthful of dick well you know boom boom mouthful of dick well you know that's boom boom right in the care it's that's boom boom right in the care it's that's boom boom right in the care it's real casual real casual real casual yeah that's crazy you keep that on your yeah that's crazy you keep that on your yeah that's crazy you keep that on your phone i mean i don't delete them phone i mean i don't delete them phone i mean i don't delete them so it'll pop up in the memory so it'll pop up in the memory so it'll pop up in the memory y'all don't have like mouthful of dick y'all don't have like mouthful of dick y'all don't have like mouthful of dick bits bits bits not with the dick in your mouth oh thank not with the dick in your mouth oh thank not with the dick in your mouth oh thank you for clarifying you for clarifying you for clarifying any vid i had where i was going to pound any vid i had where i was going to pound any vid i had where i was going to pound town on some old work somehow it's been town on some old work somehow it's been town on some old work somehow it's been scrubbed bleach justin damn siri bleach justin damn siri bleach justin damn siri i don't know who could have done it i i don't know who could have done it i i don't know who could have done it i went looking for him they're gone i went looking for him they're gone i went looking for him they're gone i have never really did that on i have never really did that on i have never really did that on nobody else camera but one person like nobody else camera but one person like nobody else camera but one person like the joy i felt when he was murdered the joy i felt when he was murdered the joy i felt when he was murdered oh my god oh my god oh my god because i was nervous the whole time did because i was nervous the whole time did because i was nervous the whole time did that would get leaked you know oh but that would get leaked you know oh but that would get leaked you know oh but that would make me more nervous if he was that would make me more nervous if he was that would make me more nervous if he was murdered like i was saying about the murdered like i was saying about the murdered like i was saying about the murder oh yeah because the the relief oh yeah because the the relief oh yeah because the the relief see that nasty do you have did you do does somebody do you have did you do does somebody do you have did you do does somebody have have have yo this is a disbelief yo this is a disbelief yo this is a disbelief somebody have your uh phone rights in somebody have your uh phone rights in somebody have your uh phone rights in the untimely event that you go to the untimely event that you go to the untimely event that you go to somebody have you have a legacy contact somebody have you have a legacy contact somebody have you have a legacy contact yeah legacy whatever they call it yeah legacy whatever they call it yeah legacy whatever they call it if you if you now we can designate a if you if you now we can designate a if you if you now we can designate a person passed away you could designate person passed away you could designate person passed away you could designate somebody that i need to do that's juice somebody that i need to do that's juice somebody that i need to do that's juice all day long all day long all day long you said eat that phone you said eat that phone you said eat that phone that's a down ass that's a down ass that's a down ass juice is my person put that there if i juice is my person put that there if i juice is my person put that there if i don't make it home give my phone the don't make it home give my phone the don't make it home give my phone the juice juice juice big juice big juice down yeah got that look like you done down yeah got that look like you done down yeah got that look like you done held it down for a few sometimes the held it down for a few sometimes the held it down for a few sometimes the wrong pick so you're wearing it still oh wrong pick so you're wearing it still oh wrong pick so you're wearing it still oh my god my god my god my god so for real be on the down for the wrong so for real be on the down for the wrong so for real be on the down for the wrong nigga then you see him a few years later nigga then you see him a few years later nigga then you see him a few years later like yeah like yeah like yeah it's aging juice was with a 20 years it's aging juice was with a 20 years it's aging juice was with a 20 years she's newly single sometimes i just go she's newly single sometimes i just go she's newly single sometimes i just go to page and just look around to page and just look around to page and just look around bleep that name don't worry about it don't worry about it don't worry about it but it's a sad story but it's a sad story but it's a sad story if you've been following throughout the if you've been following throughout the if you've been following throughout the years years years yo what's another like that that's sad yo what's another like that that's sad yo what's another like that that's sad to me we're going to bleep her name too to me we're going to bleep her name too to me we're going to bleep her name too is it is it is it who jazzman who jazzman who jazzman i don't know i don't even know if her name i don't know i don't even know if her name i don't know i don't even know if her name is jazzy sorry her page makes me sad sorry her page makes me sad sorry her page makes me sad lock that out too yeah i've got you don't lock that out too yeah i've got you don't lock that out too yeah i've got you don't worry i was like yeah please worry i was like yeah please worry i was like yeah please let's start the show yeah but i'm let's start the show yeah but i'm let's start the show yeah but i'm glad to be here with y'all glad to be here with y'all glad to be here with y'all yeah i'm glad to be here today yeah i'm yeah i'm glad to be here today yeah i'm yeah i'm glad to be here today yeah i'm glad to be here happy friday saturday i glad to be here happy friday saturday i glad to be here happy friday saturday i missed y'all missed y'all missed y'all i missed you too you've been on every i missed you too you've been on every i missed you too you've been on every platform in the world but this one platform in the world but this one platform in the world but this one literally you've been everywhere in the literally you've been everywhere in the literally you've been everywhere in the universe universe universe you've been everywhere you're on a tour you've been everywhere you're on a tour you've been everywhere you're on a tour first it was like i would be like first it was like i would be like first it was like i would be like flatter by oh my god he loves me he flatter by oh my god he loves me he flatter by oh my god he loves me he keeps up now for like like like how you keeps up now for like like like how you keeps up now for like like like how you feel like i would imagine the girls will feel like i would imagine the girls will feel like i would imagine the girls will figure or feel figure or feel figure or feel oh girls what don't figure what the oh girls what don't figure what the oh girls what don't figure what the horse watch the man i heard you yeah i'm a fan watch the man i heard you yeah i'm a fan watch the man i heard you yeah i'm a fan at all y'all so when y'all pop up other at all y'all so when y'all pop up other at all y'all so when y'all pop up other places i like to watch and support and places i like to watch and support and places i like to watch and support and make sure my view is there make sure my view is there make sure my view is there oh oh oh that didn't even sound that you just that didn't even sound that you just that didn't even sound that you just sound like that sound like that sound like that real when you use you gotta deliver that real when you use you gotta deliver that real when you use you gotta deliver that a little better i'm gonna work on it a little better i'm gonna work on it a little better i'm gonna work on it meanwhile i'll watch your stuff i'm gonna meanwhile i'll watch your stuff i'm gonna meanwhile i'll watch your stuff i'm gonna work on it same work on it same work on it same your words get too big i get that your words get too big i get that your words get too big i get that what after like 20 minutes of it i'll be what after like 20 minutes of it i'll be what after like 20 minutes of it i'll be like ah like ah like ah that's a whole i got to watch all mark that's a whole i got to watch all mark that's a whole i got to watch all mark shit to see when he take all our good shit to see when he take all our good shit to see when he take all our good topics and talk to his wife about topics and talk to his wife about topics and talk to his wife about but you don't actually subscribe so i but you don't actually subscribe so i but you don't actually subscribe so i just don't put in the preview just don't put in the preview just don't put in the preview smart smart market in front of his wife smart smart market in front of his wife My wife started talking about, "Yeah, me and my friends were talking the other day. They said something about. " Yeah, nigga. Oh, I definitely stole that tipping topic off of her. Yeah! It had like the educated version of it. I stood up for the men, though. I stood up for the men. The tipping topic. For once in your life. Oh, shit. Oh, my God, Joe. Shut up. For content. Just for content. I was fucking knocking down my bad build. Goddamn! I ain't heard from my bad body bitch in six months. Who's knocking her down? Nigga done took. Man, you can't have shit. Nigga will take your emergency pussy and hide it. Nigga done wiped my bad build. That shit is so upsetting. Like my rainy day pussy. You could've got my main hope for you took my emergency pussy game, okay? Yeah. That mouth. That mouth. That bottom of the night. Nah, he was talking. Nah, he was talking some real spiel right there. He was. Mic check, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. Hold up. I ain't with me, man. We got a great show lined up for y'all today, boy, I swear. Me and Eric being a nice, big plate of fish. Which is my favorite dish. But without the money, it's still a wish. No, man, I said 50 and up, man. I said 60 and up, man. Hold up. We doing it for the gilfs out there now. Come on now. We doing it for the old hoes out there. Bitches that suck a dick with dentures and all that shit. You know what I mean? Bitches that suck a dick with their grandma pajama nanny gown on. You know what time it is. Here we go. What you need is a what else? A man to take over. Oh, man. Don't look. Don't look. Step into the water. Step into the water. Mic check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. Step up a very bed. Your MC can tell. Yes, sir. Oh, BDP, what's going on out there? Anybody that ever busted freestyle before? Yes, yes, y'all, you don't stop, hang up this one, rock on. You in your bag. Okay, okay. I see what you want to do. Two songs on my little gym playlist. Huh? Come on, man. Bitch, you rap on that. Come on, man. Come on, man. No, he don't roll the riches on that, yeah. Yeah. I'm in broad shots. I'm mad, man. I'm in upstages. And I ain't no way to sound wild like Larry Davis. Act short and fun. Pick up a clip. My tan ass on the frame. Ha, and grab my dick. Uh-oh. Mm, mm, mm. Come on, bro. Oh, yeah. *Pewds laughing* No Joe Buds! *Pewds laughing* You've never heard of Joe Buds? *Pewds singing* What else? What else? Yummy! *Pewds singing* Ho, Brooklyn, what's going on out there? *Pewds singing* So what you want, huh? Dope or dog food? *Pewds singing* Hot damn, I got it good. Now let me tell you who I am. *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* Alright, what we starting with? What we starting with, man? What we on? What we on? What we on? *Pewds singing* I'ma play Ego. *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* *Pewds singing* I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big baby, I'm a big Uh, not so bad, B. What's that? Uh-- Ah! You're an ice age. Oh! What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what is that? It's Mark Lamar Hill. Pusley, Pusley, Pusley, Pusley. And Mona! What episode is this? 9:55. Welcome to episode 955 of the Joe Budden Podcast. This episode is brought to you by, fueled by, powered by, Pryce. Peace, Pryce. It's gang. Yeah. Yeah. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here, host Joe Budden, here with the most amazing panel in the universe. To my right, big Mona, big da Mona. Don't call her white girl. Mona is in the building. Mona, how are you? I'm amazing. Great. You look great. I like the Jodeci vibe you got going on. Thank you. It's great. Come and talk to me. I really want to meet you there. I really want to-- I see what you're doing now. You're going to get-- it's going to happen for you before the summer's over. It's really going to happen to you, honestly. Next to her, Philadelphia's finest, King-- Am I OK? I'm sorry. He was choking. --ish, right? He was laughing a little too hard. Like, he wouldn't spin on-- you know what I mean? Like, he wouldn't pull up to your block. Oh. Philadelphia's finest-- he's laughing like he won't double park by a hydrant. Just stop playing with Mona. Yeah, you better mute her. Philadelphia's finest, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, is in the building. Mark, what's up with you? Ain't shit, man. I'm good. Good. Good. Love that. Next to him. I'm playing, man. Yo, you got that rent money? Womanizing, so. Bro, I'm going to fuck my day up, bro. They still ain't paid. It's August. Yo, listen. Wasn't that like June, by the-- You come beat a bitch ass. Hey, yo. What's up? They got rent cameras. Yeah. No rent cameras. You and Hector going to pick me up. I really would. You sick. I got no one. You and Hector pick me the fuck up, bro. Me and Hector. Any reason to get you, take you through there, you know. I'm going to beat this bitch up. Oh, she just left. She just moved out. Damn. Fuck. You might as well come in. She just paid. This nigga's stupid. Anyway, King Wawa is here. Big issues in the building. Ish, how are you? I'm great, sir. You so? Good. I could not be better. Next to him. Stop playing, man. The freeziest of them all. Big freeze in the building. Ish, how you doing? I'm good, man. Good. Glad to be here. Good. Absolutely love that. Yeah, the shoes are nice. Shoes are nice. Your whole ensemble. Yeah, you got to put it together today. You look kind of fly. Appreciate you. You got plans today? What you doing when you leave here? Going home. Getting popped. Getting popped. You look cute. Shit, man. You know him longer. What is wrong with you? You should have went carty. Well, y'all think guys can't get popped? So y'all just automatically think gas. Yeah, right. Y'all are in a room full of strains. You think a girl can't pop you? I popped a nigga before. I believe that. Y'all think y'all be in a crib and your girl look at you like, I'm about to pop this nigga. What do y'all think? Oh, y'all niggas is crazy. Come on. Anyway, big freeze in the building. Elmira's finest is here. What's poppin'? Mr. Polo Short himself. Big Parks in the building. Parks, how you doing? Feeling great, man. Awesome. Awesome. Next to him, our good brother White Poe is here. Corey. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner are here. I think Savon is still here. Hey. Shout out to Savon, wherever you at. Shout out to Alex, too. Word. Word. I got to see what's going on. It's been a while. Alex got to pull up. Got to see what's going on. I sent them both my birthday dinner invite. OK. Got to see. They came together last year. They did. They did. It turned up. Why would they not come together this year? I don't know. But if they don't, it falls on the person that didn't come. Like if Savon show up and Alex is not there, looking at Alex a little shady. For those home wondering, still having ongoing discussions about what hoes can and cannot come to my extravaganza. I'm super excited. Are you winning? Are you winning? Oh, no. It's not an ongoing discussion. It's can. It's can. Hell, no. I'm losing. I don't know why he think it's a discussion. Then when I was up against the ropes, I was like, all right. How about a chick that I don't know from Adam? Can she come? No. No. Definitely not. No. No. Why would they be there? That's worse. Who's going to be assassinated? Why would a girl you don't know come? What are you talking about? I'll tell you-- It's foolish of me-ish. Is it going to be a sausage party? No. There's got to be some hoes. Is this going to be y'all bitches? Come on, now. See, I'm with you. We need whores for the party. Half the day, my girl understand that it's an aesthetic that needs to be had. Yes. And then the other half of the day, that's what I keep. The fuck? I was me before you. Come on, bro. And to keep the money, I got to keep being me, baby. Yo, Mona. I would say you want me to call her. That bitch likes you to fight. I ain't calling, jumping in. Not a bad. You're trying to get me in trouble. Anyway, how y'all doing, man? What's going on with y'all? Come on, talk to me. Yeah, we're good. We're good. Good, good, good. And energy is good in the end? Yes. I agree. Everybody have a good week? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Great week. Great week. Who's ready to drop some takes on them out there? Oh, we got some takes. Who's ready to drop some fucking hot takes on their ass? It's take time. It's take time. Some takes to clip up. But now, hey, good job. Get your fucking tape recorders ready. Takes coming your way. Hey, where are we starting at? I'm ready to drop it on you. Come on. Fucking overloading with takes. Before we get to these amazing takes that we're at, Joe, we need a plan, yo. Is it 9.45? Sure. Episode 9.45? Yeah, 9.55. 9.55. We got 45 episodes left before the 1,000th. Yeah. We got to have a plan by now. We give ourselves like a month to come up with a plan. Yeah, it's tough when you just don't know who will be here. It's like a week-to-week thing. Oh, shit. So we just got to, when we get a little close, when we get to 9.79, then we can get it together. Got you. For now, let's just keep an eye on it, monitor things. But I am trying to think of some things. I'm trying to think of some things. There's no one else to run that time in, bro. Even if you leave, right? A little photo album of your old co-workers. What? What the hell is that? You know, Corey, you know, Corey, you do the laundry right when you start the party. Corey, you can't do your laundry. Right when we start. Let me get loaded real quick. Anyway, but you're right, Mark. We do need to think of something. I think we should all go on vacation. Oh, well, Mark did that already. Ish did that already. And Parks did that already. I ain't going on vacation. You haven't been on vacation. No, I have not. And you haven't yet. My vacation's next week. Just again. He's going to act surprised every week, but I'm going to just say it again. Where are you going? Uh, Grenada. That's some bullshit. It's dope that the wife made some time for you. How nice did she squeeze you in tomorrow? She came home Tuesday. I want to be clear. He never said that she was going. He just said he's not going to be here. Points were made. It's just you and her and the kids still. So the kids going, but the child care couldn't make it. So then it's not a vacation anymore. So I had to get. I old nanny to come and now I'm working with the government to get her passport or visa approved because I was like, I can't go. I'm watching. Let me come. Oh shit. Oh wait. No, you don't have to work here. Yeah. But yeah, I'm down. I'm excited. Shit. I speak a little Spanish. That's all you need with a bad one. That was good. Sit down fellas. That was it. Cietate. Nigga. Nigga mean nigga. However you can get some male energy around. Oh shut up. God damn. As soon as I get a nigga, I'm bringing them up here. Oh boy. That's a bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad. That's bad. Up where? Joe, how do, how do taping, taping week two, I saw the stills, I saw the photos of you on set. Rather not talk Mark. I'd rather just let the work get to work, man. I like that. I like that. That's all I want to do. I was pleased. You look good. Set looks good. There's a lot of different departments this thing got to go through and we all got to get on the same page. But the best part of a new show is putting yourself in a new environment to thrive. To improve. To fucking course correct. To look at shit. Shit that you're not used to. And then I went in there. I didn't have that old shit memorized. Don't play with me. Y'all want to play with me? You know you're playing with somebody that's never going to stop. Right. That's relentless. That's never going to quit. That has like a perfectionist. I'm in there. And let me tell you this much now. Any dude wearing cologne that is presentable and controllable. I'm in there. I'm in there. I'm in there. Any dude wearing cologne that is presentable and could talk a little bit. In that little morning commute work group. People in elevators and going in the streets and walking around. It's like a layup line. Yo, if you can start a conversation. No, wintertime with a nice scarf. If you are on Wall Street by the World Trade. No, no, no. At 9:00 a.m. just outside smelling good, looking good. It is so tempting to just throw. But I don't. But I don't. But I don't. Because you're not a womanizer no more. Right. That's true. Yes. So do you not do anything or do you just throw it back? Huh? Do you throw the fish back? No. I don't. That part of us is dead. You can't even reel it in, bro. We can't. You can't. We can't. What say you? What do you think? I don't. I don't. I don't. Come on. Let's tell the truth. Let's tell. Let's tell. I don't know how to. I don't know how to. Let's tell the truth on this topic for only 40 seconds. Okay. Okay. And then let's get back to. What's the line? Like you got to. The line is. How do you know? Come on. The long stare and the smile. And that's it? Yeah. That's good. That's a good answer. That is solid. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. You can't be doing that. It's a selective group on internet that constantly brings up his transgressions with the situation Mm-hmm like you old ass don't even look right This is not true either. They all did the same shit Whatever you and Chris accused Chris Brown of These niggas being too nice to Lionel. Set it off Whatever Chris Brown did and it was fucked up. There's at least eight people on Motown that did that It was 75 people in the Commodores over the years. I'm sure one of them did some foul shit Yo, where do you think niggas learned to do that? Y'all was slapping them around Knocking them out James Brown was staying with them before we could vote Yeah, y'all niggas was restoring some type of order. I don't I don't know what y'all was doing But we know that y'all was doing that don't think Ain't no Tick-tock and Instagram that it's a surprise No, like have you you know Ike Turner You know his names that we could just write Mike I ain't James Brown Marvin date Marvin gay dad came in the house had enough for whatever that look we don't even got to go to the whole Teddy Pendergrass When pick some Big brick Bullshit Smoke you got him laying out the time Hey, Smokey went hired a new cleaning Smokey had a dirty room in the house and hired the little cleaning agency to come over and suck his dick and do all types of shit I want to hear what Lionel Richie think about Smokey. Tell me that one Hey, Bobby Womack went to the funeral Like what the hell who is Lionel Richie even talking about? That's what I'm saying. What about his transgressions? Like Lionel isn't I know I'm pretty clean I don't know none of his That's why I'm naming all his young dudes But again, just like he said, I don't know none of his that's why I'm naming all his young dudes He been a little small Just like he said, he comes from a time where everybody didn't know what you had going on for real. Most of what we know about these people came because people exposed it later, right? Social media So far we know the way this shit going, Lionel Richie's story might be next year. We don't fucking know Every year is a new story about these old niggas and what they had going on, right? Right Yeah, you niggas had Quaaludes, crack What else you niggas had? You niggas had a fucking old school Chevy Y'all niggas had the fly bell bottoms in your projects. You niggas was fucking out This niggas the only difference with his boat is gel This niggas the only difference between his boat is gel - Oh yeah. - Oh yeah. - He'll be here next month. If you out there and you talk to me in real life, I'm going to tell what we're saying. The people that really love me already know that. It's like leaving Drake a voicemail. They got to say it now. Hey, this is between. All right, I got you, Big Doe. Off the record. You got to say something like that now. It's not going to work. No, I respect that. No, you're going to find a way to talk around it and still say it. No, some shit I will respect. But for the most part, I try my best to not respect that stuff. Because that's how the best content is made. So I'm talking to my dad the other day. And my dad is like, he said, yeah, your sister keeps trying to remind me that her birthday is coming up. I said, oh, that's dope. He said, yeah, but she keeps trying to tell me that she's going to be 13. I said, oh, that's awesome, man. Good for my little sister, man. It's fucking awesome. And my dad is like, nah, that ain't what's going on. I said, what you mean? And he kind of didn't say nothing. And then I kind of figured out what he was talking about. I said, oh, shit. She hot. Joey, shut up. Like, she want a boyfriend? Somebody probably told her she could have a boyfriend. She didn't let me say all that. Hey, I'm about to be 13. Teen. Teen, big dog. Oh, I'm with you, girl. That's more. I'm with you, motherfucker. Are you crazy? Anybody that's a parent of a girl teenager is fucked. It's not even just a dad thing. It's just a rough world. My daughter's 15. That shit horrible, bro. Every minute of it. That's what I've heard. And the nigga taller than me. 14 to 17 kicked my ass. I heard everybody say, yo, enjoy this shit now, because them teenage years, that's going to be a whole different person. All right, but not 13. 13 good. Teen, nigga. Yes, it's 2026. Teen. Not 13. Teen. You're tripping, yes. Not 13. It's getting younger and younger. Soon as the period comes, you're fucked. No, no, no, Scott. Let's not be foolish now. Y'all did ass. Yes, we did. I know y'all are serious. I'm pardoned, resisted y'all, but for me, not 13. Yeah, the period comes. I came on my period at 11 or 12. 14. 13, I was in high school. It's the period, guys. It's not the age. Well, you guys skipped a bunch of times, because you are prodigious. What's the word? Prodigious. Prodigious. He's immensely gifted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was ahead of time. He's in a whole different wing of the school. In middle school. Normal people ain't 13 in high school. In middle school. Niggas was wild in the middle school. Not 13? No, no, no, no. Niggas was wild. Shit. In middle school, there were three pregnant girls. Two in seventh, one in seventh grade, two in eighth. I think we had two in mine, too. Yeah, in middle school. Mind you, we all come from that last era of teen pregnancy, because you've noticed now that's not a thing like it was. No, that was you and Parks' era. Yes. Like, teen pregnancy is totally, I'm not going to say it's not a thing, but it's a thing. It's gone, but it's not like it was. It's down for real. You got to think, when we were in high school, they had high schools or high schools. I guess it is. Sex education is different. When we were in high school, most of us, because we're like close in age, right, they had high schools for pregnant people. They had programs for pregnant people. That's not even, that don't exist no more. Shit, adult pregnancy is down. Well, that's true. True, true. Yeah, fucking is down. But that teen pregnancy, pregnant everywhere in school, that's over with. That's over with. No, the new kids ain't fucking. They not fucking. They not fucking like this. They not fucking, bro. Seriously. They don't go outside enough to fuck. They don't go to the ball, right. They don't do none of the shit that we used to do. They don't hang out. They don't drink. Why are you in disbelief? Because I know a bunch of people that are in education, and the principals and the teachers and shit that I know, them kids be fucking. We just talking about overall. Okay, general, bro. They catching the kids fucking in the school. They catch, these kids is fucking. Well, I don't doubt that you. That don't mean it don't happen, hon. But the numbers are lower than they were before. Way lower. All the way across the board. Sexually active kids. Listen, ask your bestie. Yeah, sexually active people. Ask that phone. Ask that motherfucking droid. Watch. Well, teen pregnancy, by the way, has fallen 80% since 1991. Didn't I just say that? I did. That's crazy. We're in a whole different time. 11.7. That's the only good thing to happen from shutting MTV down. How you gonna fuck from the crib behind a computer screen? They just getting stoned and fucking watching streams and shit. Listen, getting stoned, stoned, smoking weed, and hitting the nitro. These kids is really getting fucked up. In the 90s, 50% of high school students reported having had sexual intercourse. In 2019, it was. In 2019, it was 38%, so it had dropped. Yeah, it's shot. Now it's at 30%. 32. They not fucking. Look at this nigga. He no airy substitute on this side of the fucking county. Nothing is surprising about that, by the way. Now this nigga Mr. Clark with the chains on the doors. I told you, nigga. Not real shit. And. Has she ever substituted? Never. I can see you doing it. Facts. Can you see me? What's the subject? Nigga, throw fucking apples at this nigga. What's the subject, Pox? History. Is it history? Definitely history. I love it. It's my favorite. It's my favorite subject. We'll read about him in the newspaper, too. You can't. Why you do that, yo? You be that substitute. No, I won't. Yo, that's fucked up. You fucked up. Substitute teacher. No, I ain't gonna do that. You don't really want to play? I wouldn't do that to you. You don't want to play? I'm leaving it to the audience to use their imagination. In real life, I wouldn't do that to you. You should have left it to the audience, period. Are teachers one of those? You wouldn't do that to me. You wouldn't do that. Are teachers one of those, like, real slutty type of, you know how they say? Oh, teachers be fucking. Okay, I thought that. I assumed, but I couldn't remember, because I know they say girls in the hospital and all that. No, nurses, teachers, girls that wear the scrubs. Nurses, teachers, flight attendants. Flight attendants. It's funny that you, because we talked about you. Y'all stereotyped this way. I'm sorry, Mona, but I feel like y'all would be better off naming the professions that ain't doing all the fucking. No, the ones. Who ain't fucking? The ones that are. I don't know. Podcasters. Female podcasters. Shit. Shit. Listen, I didn't come back in here and say, when Lex had that show, I was like, I ain't fucking nobody bad. I just let her say it. Oh, shut up. She didn't. That's my girl. She didn't, too. No, she did not. She didn't. No, she did not. Oh, no, she didn't. No, she didn't. She didn't. I'm telling you, she didn't. I know. I'm telling you. That's my homegirl. She didn't do that. She didn't do that shit. Shout out to Lex, man. She didn't do that. What the fuck Lex look like? She didn't do none of that. No, she gave me bars. It's funny that. I'm saying she ain't do it. Go ahead, Mona. The female podcasters is whole. Yo, dog, I said I know a bunch of people in education. You assume that they. Outside of Lex and Drea. I'm aspiring to be. The female podcasters. I'm aspiring to be. Y'all are whores. You say y'all this motherfucker. Look how quiet they be. Now, y'all are big whores. I'm just doing a mental. Y'all who? Rolodex and ones I know in my head. They're whores. And what you come up with. Isha, are they really? I'm joking. Isha, keep it real. Most of the ones I know. They're whores. They're whores. If they said it, I'd believe it. No, it's true. It's not. But, Hakiki. We're just kidding. Mark, what you think about? Are female podcasters whores? I think everybody's fucking. Yeah, I'm with you. That's what I'm with you. I'm talking shit, but everybody's. I think everybody's just fucking. How's the kids? Have insight. You gotta be able to. Oh, get the fuck online. Please. That's part of the problem today, too. And people fuck where they work. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's the other thing. People fuck where they work. And now, I understand. Now, that's a very common thing. I don't mean like a place like this, but I mean like when you teach or you work at a hospital, you see the same people every day. Oh, yeah. And how many times at 12 are we going to go get the same Danish? Yep. Exactly. You're developing these bonds. You got bonds. Plus, your work husband actually cares about you. The only thing I say is. That's a fact. It's a lot of affairs, too. It's not just fucking. It's a lot of like work affairs. No, you're with somebody longer than you are at home. Yeah. It's easy to make a connection with that individual. Yeah. Have you ever fucked a co-worker? In a space like this, in a space like this, you would have to be a fucking idiot to fuck somebody when you're on a show with them. You'd be a fucking idiot. They are fools and idiots. Are you for real? They would be rushing to be fools. Niggas be dumb. Niggas be zooming to be fools and think nobody knows. That's the thing. They think nobody ever knows. Anyways. And then if it goes left. It always goes left. It's called go left. It always go left. Then they. Stop, nigga. Then it's all tense at the job and all that. It's stupid. Why can't we talk about it? Thank you. It's very stupid. I've been trying to get out of that. It's irresponsible. Even when the commenters all talk about me and you fucking because that's what they do. It's like, why would I do that? That's my bro. And we look alike. Yeah. And you look better than me. I don't fuck nobody better than me. A lot of people fuck people that look like them, by the way. Yeah. Even when you the nigga that will get sued. Like, they'll still do it. Listen. Yeah, you. At the end of the day. Yo, the niggas that just. Oh, here you go. The niggas that just. Can y'all tell. The niggas that's supposed to protect you. Can y'all tell. Thank you, Corey. They can't wait to bust a move to get you sued. Can y'all tell when y'all co-workers are fucking. Hey, Joe, what time is it? Let's talk about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, yeah, something. Can y'all tell. My watch is fucked up. What time is it? It's time for Joe's favorite part of the show. Prize picks. Pay because your man who's a. All right, so I'm back with a few more things that I ain't supposed to say. I am. We're going to get the prize picks. Prize picks is coming, yo. Y'all already know how I carry it. I'm a fucking faithful, devoted worker. I'm going to get to the prize picks ad. First, though. What the fuck was we just talking about? Something I thought was juicy. Not the SMD stuff, but we was just talking about me and you. What happened just now? It was a few things. I'll rewind it and find it. Y'all can try to be quiet. It was a few things. We were eating snacks and you said that you The clips, you're going to start charging more money for them. Oh, thank you, Ish. Mark and y'all out there, hey, that price is going up. Mark is great. We barely bring it even now. He's also a proof of concept. That price is going up. I don't know who you think he's talking to. The price of the brick on the clips is going up. I just needed to prove that it worked first. Watching Mark, flawless execution. It's going up. Sorry. Hey, sorry. Shout out to those who weren't grandfathered in. I'm going to go read your contract. You read it close. Yeah, I'm going to go see what the hell is going on. Also, I was telling my good friend Ish something behind the scenes. Off mic. And guess what he said, y'all. You guessed it. SMD. Told me that. I didn't tell you that. Don't start lying. He told me that the people I was telling him about, that I can't believe. The people I cared about. You don't even know them. I could care about people I don't know. No, you can't. You barely care about the niggas you do know. You care about them. You're talking about them. Don't leave me hanging, nigga. That was a good one. All right, we all on the road. Let's go. Ish told some niggas I care about the SMD. And in my head, I was just thinking back to the old school days where SMD was a boiling point. It was something that you had to build to. You knew that when you were a kid, you had to build to. When you said that, you've exhausted every other option. But somewhere along the line, it changed. It did? Niggas get to the SMD immediately. Or niggas get to the boiling point quick. Niggas start and suck my dick. Yeah, I don't understand that. That used to be the thing you say so you could swing on you. Yes. Now, it's like niggas want to do it, get to it faster and quicker than that for some strange reason. I mean, contingent upon who the person is and the circumstances, you might want to go there early. He ain't no bitch. Or you might have built it up to where you at the boiling point. At 50, though, you can't SMD. You can't tell niggas to SMD, right? 50 and suck my dick is heavy. Is there an age limit to when we could say it? There should be. No. Is there an age limit to disrespect? At 50, you should be saying, kiss my ass. Yeah, baby. Come on, you can't be like 70 and suck my dick. It's an age limit. Yeah, if they start disrespecting you, what you going to do? You say, kiss my ass. I think a man of your age should be saying, kiss my ass. No. Yeah, that's more dignified. No, it ain't. It ain't. Fuck off. I don't want to be dignified. Right. Mona, is there a female equivalent to SMD? Well, if we talking to a man, if we're fully so pussy, you say pussy, or you talking about like for us, if they say it to us? Yeah, yeah. That's our nuclear option. Women say, suck my dick, my nigga. Women in New York say, suck my dick. I'm taking this question as, what can I say to another girl to make her swing? I mean, a dude, but either or. I would think the thing that you say to another girl to make her swing is always the kid jab. I remember this girl hit me with a rock. Because I said to her, we were arguing for a minute, and my closer was, bitch, when you was walking around with that stroller with that baby's ass dragging to the ground, that was my closer, and she cracked me. You said she hit you with a rock? A bag of rocks. She had a bag of rocks. Damn. Why did she have a bag of rocks in the tuck? She was prepared. She knew how my mouth was, and she came to like step. She was your bunkie? No, we wasn't in jail. We was on the street, and she came to where I was, and she had something. She found my number in her boyfriend's phone. That's some poor shit. It's when she walked up, he was in the car, talking to me. You was messing with him? I just met him that day. That's the crazy part. You took a bag of rocks for a nigga? She said that like she can't fuck on the first date. Yo, that's some poor shit. I just met him the first date. Like you come to the beef with a bag of rocks and a sock? Like that's some jail shit. You know why I think it was smart? Because I thought she had a poppy store bag. I never seen it coming. She walked me real good. She had a black bag, a poppy store bag. Bitch, like she had a juice and a bag of chips. That shit was smooth as a goose. That shit on my head was this big. That bitch named Mariah, I'm not playing. She bust me in my head with a bag of rocks. Oh, man. I won the fight, though. I won the battle. I won the war. She won the battle. Oh, okay. I keep saying you can win the fight, but if you don't want to fight that motherfucker again, then. Word. I mean, did you win it? Yeah. You got it. Five, five, five, five. You said you was walking around with the stroller with the baby's ass dragging on the ground. This was the full line. Bitch, when you was walking around with that motherfucker, that's the cheapest stroller option. So as the baby mom, that's a jab. You want to have a do-no, right? You walking around here with that cheap-ass umbrella stroller with that baby's ass dragging to the ground, you wasn't saying that when I gave you a dollar to get that motherfucker some cheese puffs. That was the complete. Oh, yeah. I didn't even get the puffs. She's. You got the puffs. You got cheese and puffs. Crunchy. She rocked me. What? Shout out to you, girl. Shout out to you. Who won the long run? You respect Mariah. You respect Mariah. Because she's still got a bag of rocks right now. So. Any who's. Yeah, exactly. So what are those pics, Joe? I didn't want to talk about rocks. SMD name. Bitch went right back to it. Yeah, if you want to disrespect a man, you call him a pussy. That'll get him all riled up. It used to be bitch. They eat bitch now. It's like nothing. It ain't nothing. It's like now you can't call a woman a bitch to disrespect her because it's like. It's time endearment now. That was my welcome in to here, Joe. Sit down, bitch. Get the pot, bitch. You know? Regular chatter. Like, bitch don't do nothing to me. If one of y'all. If one of y'all call me a bitch, even if it was an argument, I wouldn't finish it with like, damn, you gonna call me a bitch? Every time you're in the middle with like a monologue that would read away, you make sure to add Joe's name to the person that did whatever. They can call you a bitch all the time. My third day working at. My third day working at Joseph Anthony Button Jr. showing up at 11.59 and said, sit down, bitch. Get the. Goddamn. Jesus, Mary. We can't pick the richest nigga here. Y'all are crazy. We should be dogpiling this nigga every day. But based off what? Just because I'm rich? Yes. That's not fair at all. And the show's called Joe Button Podcast. It's bullshit. Oh, that could change in a heartbeat. Why isn't it Joe Button Parks Ice-ish Mark Lamont Hill Demona Podcast? Oh, well, again, back to earlier in the podcast. We're not sure. We're not sure who all got. Stop saying that because I feel like the jab for me. Well, why do you feel like that? I don't know. Guilt. Oh, shit. Shit. That's why them jokes are too good so everybody be quiet. Guilt. It's only funny because it's true. Look at Mark. Listen, every three weeks Mona's like, ah, you just have a saucy beard. I only did it once. No, that's true. I'm exaggerating. I only cried backstage once. 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It says Hamburgers here, but De'Arica Hamby's for more than 23 and a half points, rebounds and assists and there's no other name on this ticket. That lets you know he been getting his ass cracked at this shit for a while. For at least four to five months. He really trying to get a winner. He went with three names. We heard three names since 2024. Oh man. My man. He getting cracked out there. Yo, don't forget to download the Price Picks app right this second and use promo code J-B-P to get $150 instantly when you play your first five dollar lineup only on Price Picks. America's number one Sports Picks app. All right. All right. Good luck out there. Yeah, good luck. Oh, man. And four teams have the most games for the season. I'm only concerned about the Knicks who I'll be watching from TV. The Knicks, Philly, the Lakers and the Spurs. Hey, I'm only concerned about the Knicks who I'll be watching from the confines of my own home on television. I'll tell you that much. Why's that? I'm not playing with them. I'm not playing with them all up for a minute more. I'm not playing with them that one bit. How much do you want to? - Oh. It ain't double. I'm going. I'll be home. It ain't double. I'm not going. Did it double? Yes. It's stupid. The cheapest ticket is $2,000 over the night. I will be home. I get that. We're just trying to gauge it. I'll be home maybe till the playoffs. Hey, yo, dawg. If you're not in there when y'all play Philly on Open the Night, you got to go to Open the I'm telling you I won't be there. You got to go to Open the Night. I'm telling you I will not be there. I will not be there. I want you to reconsider. But I was about to say, Open the Night, the cheapest ticket in the whole building is $2,000. That's to sit up all the way up at the top. Damn. It's ridiculous in there in New York. That's wrong. That's wrong. Doing that to the people in the kitchen. And they're going to be in it. Oh, and they're going to be back. Yeah, they're going to be back. Yeah, it's going to be back. It's going to be wrong. They played the Sixers two times in the first, like, ten games. Yeah, Sixers got the toughest schedule in the first ten games, they said. But it'll be interesting to see what happens. We can handle it. Oh, we'll be fine. That 10-and-0 is going to be nice. We're getting the chips. Three and seven. Seven and three, six and four. That's what I'm hoping for. That nigga got a Philadelphia room in his house. We going to let that go? Can we slow down? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can speed past things a little bit. Yeah, wait. Because earlier in the show, you were saying that Ish makes friends with anybody. Wait a minute. Also, y'all let that nigga come up here and threaten me. Nobody. Y'all let that nigga come up here. Listen. I might have threatened him first. He did not threaten her. Okay. I thought I heard the nigga say he had a bus full of Atlantic City old bitches that play slots to fight me. That's what I heard him say. You heard him say, yo. Yo. You told me I can't come up there with no bus. You heard that part. Yeah, you heard that part. Because this type of neighborhood, they'd have called the police on you, nigga. Yeah, you could come with two to three people, niggas, that I know me and Corey can handle until Ice calls the police. Period. Me and Corey hold it down until Ice run over to the police. Because I sized the mirror up. I fucked the mirror up. Anyway, you were saying Ish. You were saying Ish. Nah, I was- Was your first time meeting him when he came to the pot? Yeah. Yeah. Ah! Fast friends, they said. They did three hours on the phone. Do y'all talk on the phone? They're meeting today for lunch. We ain't talking on the phone. How'd you get to his house? What'd you guys do? He ain't go to his house. He called me down to talk about some Atlantic City real estate business. They had a dope-ass groundbreaking ceremony down there for some developments that's going on. What was this? Some bullshit. Then we chopped it up for the whole day. When was it groundbreaking? Wow. You better not go back to Kelsey's. I know that. You better stop talking. It's tough. It's the thing, though, right? I'm so disappointed in you because, you know what? It's cool. You want to befriend the mayor, befriend the fucking mayor of Atlantic City. Shoot higher next time, okay? Yo. Straight up. He's a good dude. Yeah, he's a great dude. Great dude. No, Mayor Marty Smalls is amazing. I think the underlying joke here is that Ish always fights. He always battles when you say that he makes friends quickly. This feels like a quick friendship. I'm a little jealous. That's why. Everybody's laughing if you didn't know. Gotcha. I make friends fast, too, Ish. I hate you. I didn't even get snappy. Yo, this is what I can't say about this nigga. I made sure to keep my face straight. I didn't say one word. You did your best. And he say, yeah, nigga, to me. Nobody said, I said, got you. Nobody said anything of the sort. Let me ask you this. Do you think, you don't think you make friends fast? Or associates? Friends is a stretch. Yeah, I'm going to say associates. It depends on the person. You were at his house. You saw his Philadelphia room. Yo, dawg, back to the point I'm making. The nigga had a dope-ass room just dedicated to Philly sports. That shit was super-duper-duper fire. So you got the whole tour. So you got a tour of the house. The stadium seats. The nigga had the shit, the scorekeeper shit. At the top of the ceiling, that shit was dope. So he took the random crib. He had the Daktronics. He had the Daktronics, the Kawhi deal. It's like the mayor trying to crack. This nigga went to his room. This nigga sat on his bed in his street clothes. He impressed it. This is real nice. Hey, hey, and somebody. Somebody went to get cracked. Hey, somebody showed right up. Right. You can ring my bell. Ring my bell. He showed right to the drive, too. That shit ain't close. Yo, it ain't far as shit. Nigga ain't been to my house since 2006. Nigga went to the mayor's crib. Anybody that can help him get far, boy. This motherfucker is a whore. He's going to get them locked. That's funny. Nigga, yeah, by hook or by crook. In fact, the mayor reached out to me, and I was going to tell my man that there's some opportunity there that you should potentially get your life. You was going to tell him? Yeah, of course. Okay. That's what's up. Well, I really appreciate that, and that's one of the reasons why I love you the way I do. But do you think he didn't hit me? He possibly did. Dubbed him. Did you go? Dubbed him. No, nigga. He texted me, too. I didn't respond. What the fuck are you talking about? I wish I had him. Hey, me and Mark ain't going. And y'all laughing about that. Hey, me and Mark. No, I said I wish I had. Me and Mark ain't going. You got the 800. I'm not down there. Hey, way easy. I wouldn't have went to the house, but I would have went to the ground break. Keep dubbing. Way easy, dog. It ain't just a text to get me in your crib. Nah, don't send flowers to me. Dinner or something. He was right there. Took the Durango on the road. Shout to the mayor. Shout to his wife. Marty Small. You met the wife? Oh, my fucking God. Did you see this grandkid? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Stop, bro. They doing something special in Atlanta. You met his wife. You didn't take your lady. It wasn't no couples thing, right? No. Oh, all right. That's super dope. They doing some fly shit in Atlanta. If you did a double data, we'd have been mad. Yeah, we'd have been mad. I'm not going to hold you. All right. Well, y'all will be mad. And some D, nigga. You know what I'm saying? They doing some dope shit down there. Dope. Wow, that's good, man. And it just went to the delusion of the Philly fans. That was the moral of my story before I got cut off. Come to my house this weekend. Viciously. Y'all don't give a fuck about what you're doing. Cut off so viciously. Y'all don't care about what you're saying. Come to my house this Sunday, yo. Dead ass. Seriously. You got some lots? You got some ocean? You got some Atlantic Ocean front? No, I got some nice corned beef hash for you, Paul. I'll make some corned beef hash. I don't think it's false. You come through this Sunday. What did you say, Mark? No, I was going to ask if you, are you now going to kind of relocate from D.C. to A.C. in terms of your real estate developments? I'm trying to go wherever the money is and the opportunities are. Is the money really in A.C.? A.C. has a lot of opportunities available for anybody that's willing to, I'm serious. I ain't even joking. He on his serious voice. If you happen to be introduced to the right people, right? If you happen to be introduced to the right people. He starting at the top. Yeah. Hold up for a minute, Mona. Yeah. No, this is narcissism coming out by the pat himself on the back. Hey, Mona, push that mic down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Mark, take a sip of that tea. Nah, for real. All these opportunities exist if you happen to be introduced to the right people. No doubt. Introduction don't mean nothing. I agree with you. You can't make us fight. I'm not. I agree with you. You should end up at somebody's house that you never met and meeting their wife and seeing their plans and eating the dinner and using the bed. If you never met them, you could just pop up there by as Moses. No, but now you know what they did, though. Yo, Keefie D. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yo, check this out. Keefie D. I don't know if you heard. It's a Tupac murder trial going on. Yeah, I know. From 96. You know what they did, though? What? His wife is from Newark. Her people from Newark. My resume spoke for itself when they started to do their research. Listen, talk heavy, Keef. Talk heavy, nigga. Look in the camera and tell them. Now, I'm looking at you. Wait, but why? I'm looking at you. He'll freeze. He'll freeze. Freeze. Nigga. Your resume came back clean. Nigga. He checked his car fax. But wait, but why is he telling me? Because you need to know this. Who supports him more than me? Because you keep playing with him. He don't think I'm playing. Wait, what do you think? I don't know your resume, nigga? Wait, you don't. Oh, my God. Yo, you think I, me, don't know your resume, nigga? Century 21? Subway. Subway corporate. You don't think I don't know. They better chill out. Century 21. They better fucking chill out out there, nigga. Even the big brick man. And Best Fest 21, nigga. Who don't know? Yeah. Anyway. Oh, man. If I can't support my brothers, I don't want to support nobody, then, nigga. Facts. Anyway, hot takes galore. What we got next? We got so many. What we got next? We ain't talked about shit. No, we didn't. Not a damn thing. But Lionel Richie, lying ass. Hating ass. Hating ass. Hating ass, nigga. Well, let's stay in music, then. Let's talk about this Charlamagne Ray Daniels thing. Ooh, yeah, yo. Now. I missed this one, so y'all got to fill me in, Paul. That's the thing about this pod. All the topics, they're scorching hot. Few people here always missed it somehow. Somehow. A few people here always missed it. The ones that are really good to view is viewing, really get some virality popping, huh? So, a few people here we always count on. Missed some things. Now, just so y'all know, anytime that's set up here, I don't believe it if it don't come from Ish. So, you saying that, I don't know who you're talking to. It's like the perfect compliment to this at the same time. I don't know who Parks is talking to. I watch a lot of things. Yeah. All right. So, come on. Break it down. Listen. Ray Daniels went on a podcast. It wasn't his. It wasn't his podcast. And he said, yo, I heard that a Jay-Z album is finished and it's coming out, but it might not come out. That's contingent upon who his business deals are with. If he could close something, he's looking for a partnership. So, yada, yada, yada, yada. That's what he said. And then Charlamagne went on The Breakfast Club shortly after, maybe a few days later, and gave Ray Daniels donkey of the day and said, hey, if you're going to go out there with such a wild proclamation, then maybe you should put it on. Say, I heard. Say, yada, yada, yada. And he went on and he kicked Ray Daniels back in and then Ray Daniels replied and said, hey, I did it. I did say I heard, but it's funny to me because why is Charlamagne spending this much time on me? When is the last time we've heard Charlamagne talk about an up-and-coming podcaster since he's been Mr. $200 million man? When's the last time you saw Charlamagne post the donkey of the day on his Instagram page? He does donkey of the day every day, and we never see it on his Instagram. So that's what Ray had to say about Charlamagne. If Charlamagne has replied to that, I have not seen it. He said some more. Charlamagne or Ray? Ray. I know Ray said more, but I'm trying to do like a cliff note version. Go ahead, Mark. One more quick thing. After Ray Daniels said that the album was coming out, Rock Nation themselves made a statement. Said that it was not coming out and that that was fake news. Yes. What does that post show? They didn't say that. I'm asking you, was that because I saw the screenshot. It said fake news. I saw the screenshot floating around. It was a Rock Nation Instagram post that said, album done. Finished. Fake news. Or album done, fake news. My point was when I went to look at their page to see that myself, I didn't see that. So I don't know if that was manufactured or if that was real. Right. You never know now. You got to look it up. People do that shit. Right. Yeah. And it's churred. It's like a CH, but it's not really there. It's manufactured. That's. What did you say? What did you say? What? What was I talking about? Five times. Eight times four. Ah! Oh, shit. It was on Rock Nation stories. And what it said was, like you said, in quotes, album done. And then it said under that, fake news. That's it. It was on their stories. That's probably why. Yeah. Just carry the one. 32. Come on now. Come on. Come on. All right. Because some people was dumb enough out there to think I didn't know five plus four. I don't understand. I was just trying to have some fun with my guy when I said eight, but fuck y'all. I saw that post. It didn't take you a little while. Well, I'm not as good at math as you, Freeze, and Mark. I'm good at talent. I'm good at talent. Yeah. I'm not really the best at math. If they put me with a little test, I might fail the math test. I'm great at talent, though. Having talent, no matter where. Who plays me out when the odds against the wall. I'm great at that. Keefie D. No, come on. What was he talking about? Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels. Joe, where do y'all stand? Mark, I know Charlemagne is your friend. Yes, me and Charlemagne have digitally pieced it up, but this topic is going to get the views viewing. We can't run from it. This topic might get us viral if we talk about it the right way. It's a hot topic out there. No, seriously. This is what I think. I need some virality. First, I heard the same thing Ray heard. I didn't hear about the corporate partnership part, but I heard there's an album that was done. I heard that back, maybe. It's the worst kept secret. Yeah. To me, that wasn't even worth mentioning. No, you can't say that. I'm not saying anything wrong. I'm just saying it wasn't surprising to most of us. That's not information. I saw Act talk about it. Act said, I heard the same thing. That's not something I would bite on. It's not something I would bite on. Pause. But Ray Daniels, if somebody tells him that. Not just that. Bigger than that, y'all are talking about, to my point that I made last week or two weeks ago, dog, y'all talking about people that are in the know. Right. The masses don't have the same sources of information that we might have behind that channel. So if you're giving information to the masses, you can't say this is well known, because everybody don't know that. Well, he didn't. He did say- He said, I heard. I heard. He did say that. He didn't say a matter of factly. He said, y'all, I heard. Let me say, I don't think he did anything wrong. I think it was not a surprise. It was a surprise to people who are in the know, but not to the world. I think he did what he did, and he's getting clicked. No, that's true. What do you think about what Sean made? I'm going there. So then I think, when I saw Rock Nation's response, I was thinking, this is a very careful response. Because everything Ray said could have been done, and it could be a technicality keeping it from being true. Like, oh, we're waiting for one bonus track. We got two more songs. Everything else could have been true, but one little detail. So it felt very careful. They didn't say there's no album. They didn't say there's no project. They didn't say- They said, album done, fake news. Mm-hmm. It made me think Ray was probably right. Giving him Donkey of the Day, I thought was a little extreme. I was like, Donkey of the Day. I haven't seen Donkey of the Day go for big shit. Donkey of the Day, right after Rock Nation responded- For not citing your sources? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That, to me, was like, oh, I was- It felt like overkill, and I don't know the why of it, but- Yeah, what is this? Oh, here you go. But it looks like- Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Because you're going to take us away from our- Organic, authentic land. I said that this topic could take us viral. I'm about to get you there. You are underestimating the fans' ability to sniff out bullshit. I'm not bullshitting. You just didn't even let me finish. What I'm saying is- Now you made me lose my train of thought. But the point is, what it looks like is that the narrative is right, right? That there's somebody saying, look, we need you to make a big deal about this. We need- I.E. Rock Nation. I think- That's what it looks like. When you say the narrative- The narrative is that- And Charlamagne played on this the other day when he took the picture of him with Dez. When he took the picture with Dez. Yeah, and said- And said, this is our employee evaluation meeting. But if you- Even what did you think of that strategy? Because that is a strategy. I thought it was a good strategy. But again, I don't think he works for Rock Nation. But his relationship with them is very clear. A lot of people out there have relationships with these companies when they don't work- It's not very clear, Mark. I'm saying it's clear to me. It looks to me like there's a relationship. Make it- Let me put it very simple. If you never do put nobody as donkey of the day, and then one day you make this one person donkey of the day for going against Rock Nation, it does look like you're being influenced by Rock Nation. You have some kind of relationship with them. I don't think he works for them, but there is some kind of- Clearly, some kind of relationship there. We've all had- I don't know about y'all. I mean, I say all. I've had relationships with companies where they don't tell me what to do, but they'll send me a text or send me a note saying, hey, did you see this thing or that story you said? We'd rather you not do that. And we move on it. So if you don't have- If you're not being influenced by Rock Nation, the donkey of the day and the Instagram post did the opposite of that, because it definitely looks a way. But I thought, to me, the donkey of the day shit was too much. And I love Charlamagne. I just think it was a bad choice. Even if he gave him donkey of the day, I think how he talked about Ray was a little harsh. He did go kind of hard. What did he say? I didn't hear that part. What did he say? He kind of discredited him as a professional. Let me find it for you, just so you can hear it more. He was a little harsh. I'd hate for you not to have heard on such a very important topic, one that could get us viral. And so Ray doubled down and said, the same day, he said, yo, I've only spoken to Charlamagne ever one time. He said, I've seen him in person once, but I only spoke to him on the phone one time. And he said the same exact thing was the subject matter, which was Ray had said something about Jay-Z. And I think Ray compared Jay-Z to Donald Trump. And he said Charlamagne called him on the phone and said, yo, you're going a little rough, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So he said he asked Charlamagne, like, yo, y'all got business together? And Charlamagne was like, nah, I don't fuck with Roc Nation. I don't got no business with them. I'm just saying from one black man to another, I think it's a bad thing to do. And he said three days later, Wayno released the fact that Charlamagne is working for Roc Nation. And he was like, now it all ties in and it all tracks. So I just think he was a little harsh to give him donkey of the day for that. Yeah, donkey of the day. Part that I want to address the most, Charlamagne said. I'm going to get past all of the personal attacks. No. Here, let's go. Where's the donkey of the day? My whole algorithm. My whole algorithm has been Charlamagne, academics, and Ray Daniels. Looks like they've scrubbed this donkey of the day shit. I'm having trouble finding it. But it's told you what he said. Oh, yeah. He was a little rough. On his podcast, Ray Daniels Presents, I believe it's called. And he said, definitively, okay, without a shadow of a doubt, that Jay-Z had a new album coming out. Let's listen. Your reputation at all costs. We have to learn from Hov. Hov is not going to put himself out there to be. It's just, I'm not doing $60,000, y'all. By the way, tell you something I know I heard about on the Jay-Z tip. Just a little quick update. His album is done. Funny shit. He plays the clip where he says, I heard. What I heard. I heard. Maybe he missed that part. He's not playing about it. You cannot play about your brand. You said this like a month ago. Somebody called and confirmed it from me. So I was like, okay, I just want to reveal it on the team. You heard it here first. Heard it here first. Let's go. Well, you need to block that somebody, Ray. Because Roc-Nation, who I work for, replied to that commentary by posting in their story, album done, in air quotes, fake news. Okay? There is a part of me that wishes Roc-Nation didn't even do that. Because in a lot of ways, things like that are validation for the Ray Daniels of the world. And that's really why I'm doing this donkey this morning. See, nobody cares about having a voice that has actual value. People only care about going viral. Neutral button. Ray is loving this attention. Okay? This is what these guys do this for. They don't care about being right. They don't care about having credibility. They just care about attention. They just care about being. Whoa, whoa. This is. I'm here to tell you, that's not sustainable. This is too much. Ray told me once himself. I only met Ray once in my life. I think I talked to him twice. Once on the phone and I met him because he was at the Black Effect Podcast Festival earlier this year in Atlanta. And he said to me that he only started podcasting. And he only says the things that he says because he wants another job in the music industry. Ah, not for daddy. Okay, because I thought he was in the music industry already. But he said to me, saying the things he says. Get you some attention. Get you some attention from these musicians. All right. I'm going to cut it off because Ray is my man and he's just going like a little too far. This is way too much. Ray was just talking about the importance of brand alignment. Like, it wasn't like he was reaching for Jay-Z virality. Like, he was just. That was just a little tidbit. Ray does sometimes do things for virality. I can openly admit that. This is, to me, not even close to one of those situations. So, I think he was a little rough. Pause. Yeah. What's the reason behind it? Mark, now that you've heard it. - I'm also confused why Charlemagne would hide Rock Nation ties, if there are any? I mean, I don't, whenever this stuff came out last month, and I don't remember every specific detail of it, it was clear that they have a business relationship. I think, again, it's the wordplay. I don't work for them. It has not been clear. I don't know why you keep saying that. Well, he sat with ACK. That's one of them. With the stuff with ACK, I'm talking about when they came out. They talked about it for a minute. He still did not say that. No, he did not. I'm not talking about what he said. I'm saying there's a. It looks like it. I'm talking about what Charlamagne said. He said that to his extent, I'm freestyling, so forgive me if I'm wrong. You're not quoting. The gist of it was that him and Rock Nation were working on some of the casino shit in Midtown, which goes back to me saying all this shit. We're in front for fucking casino business. But that's what he said on the ACK interview. He has a business relationship. Also, what he said in that ACK interview was, I am a fan of Hov the way you are a fan of Drake, and if an opportunity comes up, I would not take it the same way you would take it. My thing is this with Charlamagne, right? Yeah, we came on here and said that you won the debate with academics. Fact. I never said you came away unscathed. I never said you just left that fight without a bruise or a mark on your face. That narrative exists now. And there seems to be a little bit of merit and a little bit of credence to it, and all. All you do is help when you seemingly jump in front of anything coming Roc Nation's way or Hov's way or Desiree's way. That's what it appears like, right? Like, I don't know his business. I don't know who he works for or with. But in that ACK interview, it came out that, hey, if we did get the casino, you would have a piece of it. That, to me, is called working with. But no, because the way he kind of worded it was, yo, I'm an investor here. Yeah. Like, I can be an investor, or any one of us can be an investor with another big conglomerate. That don't necessarily mean that we are investing as a unit together. That's real simple to say. And if you say that, it's easily understood by whoever is digesting that comment. Charlemagne never really speaks directly to things. He always speaks in, like, some type of code to where, hey, yeah, to where I'm saying it, but I'm not saying, hey, if they would have got it, I'd have been in on it, but they didn't get it, so I wasn't in on it, so that wasn't an ad. Act's point was, hey, all of that should have been said across airwaves, and you might have been violating whatever rules you've got. I don't talk about that, because I'm not Paul DeFloco and them niggas that get on the internet and get to ratting on everybody about what they did wrong. That's not my bad. I was about to say, but to Charlemagne's defense, he don't have to. Well, you do have to. Well, you have to disclose that. You do have to. No, I'm saying, I don't have to let, no, you got to let somebody know that he has an affiliation with Rob Nation. Yes, yes. If y'all are in business. If you are saying something over the airwaves as if it's an ad and you are not expressing your personal affiliation with that, you are violating fucking the FCC rules. It ain't just airwaves. They got that shit now with social media, all that. You can't post something if it's, you have to let it be known that this is an ad. Yeah. You cannot just make it look like. But that's an ad. That's where the great not an ad. But that's what it is, they ads. They sneaky ads. That's what they saying. That's what they're saying. If I got business dealings with your company, that's that ish. And I'm somewhere talking about that's that ish in a positive light, but I have an interest there. That nobody knows about. And nobody know, that's illegal. I have to make that interest known. Advertisement is something that I pay for. So if you just fuck with it. That's not true. No, that's not necessarily true. It's not true. I think where it gets. Really? Not definitively. It doesn't have to be. It can be. It can be no money exchange and you can be doing the advertisement. Where it gets tricky I think is when you think about what the relationships are. For example, if I want on my own private platform and started promoting crime in America, I have a relationship with you and I have a business relationship with you. But if I just do a commentary about how great your new show is, that's not an ad. Well, you also don't participate in the upside of crime in America. I'm with you. Which is a clear distinction. And that's why I'm saying it's not enough to just have the relationship. That last piece you just mentioned has to be demonstrated. And that's what I'm saying. I don't know their business enough. Like you said, I don't know their business enough to know. Same, but forget about that. Let's throw that to the side because we do that here. We fucking get caught up in that. Throw that to the side. Even the picture with Desiree. Yeah. To be able to take a picture with Desiree. Yeah. Does say something. I think it was an interview, right? I don't know what it was. It looked like they were going to set for an interview. I've never met Desiree more. Okay. I've only ever heard about her. Same. From people that I know and care about and love. They speak very highly of her in terms of her business savvy, how shrewd she is, how she gets things done. I've seen her work. I've also heard about other things to where, yeah, I could understand that side as well. So when these people get to talk about, oh, rock nation and Desiree, they may be playing outside of the lines of the rule book. I'm home saying, yeah, that's how they play. And again, back to my point last time, especially once you start getting into political, economic shit at that level, it's a different level of game that they're playing. It's a whole different ball game. Yeah. We're no longer talking about critiquing music. Well, that's why I wouldn't. We're talking about, like the whole business of politics is fucking mudslinging and protecting someone from being mudslinged. Parks, I agree, but that's why I was surprised to see a bullet used for something. For Ray. For Ray. For something that seems so low stakes. Because if the album's not coming out, who gives a shit? And if it is, we're going to find out it is. But anyway, so. Maybe the fact that he, the part, it ain't about the album, it's the part that he's saying about. Corporate sponsors. There has to be a business deal tied to that album. Maybe that was going to be hidden one way or another. You're talking about something that the masses ain't supposed to know. Because again, today everything is numbers based. So if this album dropped and them numbers look a certain way, y'all not supposed to know it looked a certain way because of a business deal over here. Which we saw happen with Magna Carta, by the way. Yes. But it look a certain way, right, to people that have no idea about none of this shit that's being spoken about. Which is the masses. Like, I've met Jay-Z before and had a few talks with him in my past, right? Looking at this, I would put all my poker chips to the table to say, Jay-Z is not telling Charlamagne to go out there and go to bat for everything that is being said about him. Oh, I agree with that. Yeah, yeah, no. I would bet the farm that he's not telling her that. Okay. Telling him that. So why he feels like he needs to do it or he's obligated to do it is coming from somewhere else and something else. So let me ask you a question. Not saying it's not Roc Nation affiliated. Exactly. Because he took the pick with Dez. That's what I was about to say. But listen, if Hov is saying, yo, Dez run all this shit, go talk to Dez, then that's what you're dealing with now. I agree. So when people say Roc Nation, yeah, they're saying Jay-Z, but oftentimes when people say it, they're really talking about, this woman who I've never met, I can't, Joe, say something, say something. I can't say I've never met the lady. I've never met this woman. Yeah, same. But I heard. Let me put my Roc Nation cape on for you. She the reason we got, I heard. She the reason, listen. I heard she don't play. We was outside that Yankee Stadium shit when all that shit was fucked up. We was out there for hours and they said the gates was open and they wasn't and it was and it wasn't. We saw her walk over. She whispered something to that guard and within 10 minutes, at least, I don't know, niggas was inside. It was like Malcolm X in the movie. Yeah, yeah. Yo, no bullshit. She came out, she was like. Dog, I seen Ack online the other day. Everybody was inside. Hey, Ack, let me tell you, I absolutely love all of this shit that you got going on. You are turning it up. A 46-year-old nigga like me loves to see it because I be home with low energy. Like, yeah, talk about that shit, yo. But Ack was talking on the stream and got swatted. He's right in the middle of his rock. Ack Nation bag. Seen something on the cameras, had to run outside, had to go in and he came back in and talked about it. What a good content piece if you get swatted, right? But I'm home with low energy saying, yeah, that's why I don't do it. Yeah, why do you want the problems, yo? Hey, no, Ice, these fans so stupid. Hey, why you don't talk about this? Because I don't like getting swatted. Who wants the problems? I don't like having lawyer fees for nothing. I don't like getting sued over some shit they wrote. I don't like reading like bullshit on the paper. I don't like creating enemies with people who have the resources to make my life a living hell every day for the rest of my life. I don't. That's me. Yeah. That's me. Choose your battles, my nigga. Choose your battles. That's my take on it. Hey, Ack. Slew. Hey. Get him. It's a whole bar for everything. Do not mark up that tree. That tree will fall on you. Let me put on my rock nation cape for just a second. There you go. Come on, Mark. Because I've been talking it through. And again, I think Charlamagne overreacted with the donkey of the day shit. I agree. That didn't need to happen. That's weird. It was a weird decision to make. To me, honestly, because we wouldn't be talking about this story except for that happening. Right. He actually made it a bigger story. But they made it a bigger story than if they had just ignored it. Yeah. If I'm a rock nation and I've got as much at stake as y'all are talking about, the business deals, all that stuff, to me, they could have just sent a note to Ray. Because if Ray is who they see, They say he is, and his angle is to get into business that other shit they could have sent ray a note and say hey chill say hey my sources were wrong and he would he probably would have stood down that's a probably today's world you send that note to a motherfucker they want to post that note yeah they want to let niggas know hey look they contacted me saying this and now that further pushes them along maybe today i'm only saying today years ago motherfucker you get a phone call or text whatever the case may be all right i'm chilling today niggas go right to the internet to let it be doing that and i don't know but but but what if you don't know that's a chance you're not willing to take if i send you a cease and desist and it's valid and you really were talking about some shit and i'd say hey you have to stop talking about that and then you post the cease and sit to sit guess what the next step is okay assist oh yeah no get to get your outfit get get the ironing board out kiss kiss kiss now hey we did hey you want to play in their games no that was a legal document that means something we tried this way go ahead and make a mockery of the justice system online with you hey that shit don't feel well in court i'll tell you that's somebody that did it playing internet games when i went in court judge ain't like internet games yeah go ahead and post the cease and desist see what happened not right but a lot of people don't even understand that though they don't understand that that all that legal shit is real it's serious and it's real ramifications behind it until they're dragged through it there's been other people that's gotten cease and desist that's gotten you know they might not post it but you could be like yo i would have told y'all what's really going on but a powerful conglomerate i ain't gonna say the name sent me a c you get i'm saying like people i'm not saying ray would do that and i don't think you can get a c and d for that i mean if he says look my sources told me a whole album is coming like the fuck he's not to say that true so to me any note they send it wouldn't be a legal one it would just be a yo chill out chill out or just say hey that's not true hey just let you know that's not true you might not want to put out bad information and just leave it at that sometimes what you don't say is enough you know what i mean and then i i would have thought that that would be step one if they were on that time i the idea that they sent charlamagne they sick charlamagne on to me as i'm thinking it through seems less likely what could be more likely is still hey i got a relationship with this company i feel the need to front line for them because i got a relationship with this company charlamagne charlamagne if it wasn't him in real life charlamagne is too much of a boss for that yeah yeah it's too much of a boss for that mentality that's very lackey but i don't mean on some lackey shit i mean on some like just i actually love i actually fuck with them and love them it comes off you you're you're also responsible for how it comes off i'm not i'm not never calling charlamagne i can't put that on where he how it comes off does this look less like that it looks like lackey no but the approach he actually did take does it look less like that no okay okay no it doesn't look like see i i just see it from a different he just is a nigga that probably don't care about the perception of that's one of the things i appreciate about i'm loyal to the people that's where it is anybody outside of that is i think it takes away jay-z's leverage if he was really looking for a corporate partner to do business with why so because ray the way ray presented it was yo in this climate in music he don't want to cut back bad first week numbers he don't want to get back bad numbers because he's jay-z okay well that's an opinion that's his opinion no that's when he leaves fact world yeah the fact is there may be an album done no i also don't think that jay-z is going to deliver bad numbers no what i'm saying is great ray's perspective if you listen to it was yo jay-z is ready to jump out let's go viral let's go viral why say it why would you think that because he's selling out stadiums i don't see yankee stadium and overseas in la and anytime jay even when he did the freestyle roots it was the fucking most viral thing on the internet for a week i'm pretty sure that if jay-z puts out album a it's also going to have beyonce and fucking pharrell and all the stars in the world there's no i'm not saying it's going to go platinum off rip but it's gonna it's not gonna be no fucking sixty thousand or whatever he said no no no no no no no no i thought you was i'm thinking you're talking like platinum out the gate that type no it doesn't at least call numbers right what's what's called numbers what was called three out the gate three ish yeah i could see that and that's very good yeah yeah okay that's very good all right i thought you were saying platinum out the gate it's not it's 2026 nothing pretty much goes platinum up the gate you keep trying it ain't it trying what anytime this topic come off come up you get on that this what you're doing no it's just that i don't i also understand that i was i don't think hove today is hove that we think he is that's all how would you know he ain't been out in a decade and everything that he touches has a turnout that is larger than life what hold do we need to be to sell 300 000 copies well no that's why once we got to the number 300 i tapped i said oh okay i thought he was talking about but hove has never been that hove has never been come out week one and do five six seven that's never been maybe except magna carter which was a deal yeah everybody and again if i'm doing if i'm hanging the accolades and shit because he don't need to drop an album so now it's okay why am i dropping this album what am i what am i gonna do with this album i can't drop an album and do mediocre numbers so i have to do some astronomical shit yeah i'm gonna partner up to make it look away ray putting that out there that he's looking for corporate sponsors it could hurt that because he don't want to hurt his numbers now it could fuck up your leverage you know what's funny i understand i understand i understand both sides i understand the new niggas obsession with with because i'm not just putting this on drake like it's a new nigga thing to take somebody that is looked at like that nigga and say hey us new age niggas not only don't look at you like that but we don't respect you as that and we don't give a fuck about you like that i get that be clear because you said every time i wasn't putting you all right all right cool i just want to make but when you speak it does remind me of the people that kind of want to let hove know that whatever he's used to is not going on today i want to i want to prime yeah i want to acknowledge that those people exist not putting that on you okay i want to acknowledge those people exist on the flip side of that same coin is absolutely nothing you new niggas could do to change what niggas have done and have been their whole life or when niggas hold him absolutely and that's what just and those two worlds have to figure out how to live together and it's still currently doing with yankee stadium with london with paris with la like it's not like he's out here doing sobs well i only say they got to learn because they seem to keep uh triangulating but you know why that is it's because our number one and your number one got some shit that's been going so it's back to pick a side bro yeah it's all comes back to pick a side again i should have so fucking i hate this shit but it all comes back to pick a side we over here we don't fuck with him y'all whack for still fucking with him we don't care about you him none of that shit y'all still for none of that old shit it's over but y'all saying that that's how they move y'all saying that to me while i have arthritis no the part that y'all saying that to me at this age where y'all saying that that's how they move y'all saying that to me at this age where it'll cramp up and i can't move my hand no more like i got other things to worry about then i got the pinky you young niggas got the energy to do this oh you're number one number one i got it dog when i woke up today my knee was out of socket and i didn't do nothing i didn't even do nothing anyway man what do you say man no i just think i think that niggas even if even if the young people don't understand a nigga just had people taking planes to new york city to see a concert damn sure did like i don't three nights in a row shout out to the bronx but also everything don't have to be understood by young niggas one and on the flip side everything don't have to be understood by old niggas but when you older you kind of you kind of have a little bit of acceptance with that right when you older it'd be like yeah you know why you know you know why and it because you were young you was that do you think we just we just this is just the next generation do you think that jc is coming out with an album to fucking be number one like i'm not i'm sure he would love that and that would be amazing i think he's coming out with them because he wants to come out with the album i think so too and i think he wants to be successful because he's in the record and his people are in the record selling business that being said i don't think he's gonna go home and cry if it doesn't sell platinum in the first week i think he wants to make art he might not i don't think he's gonna cry about it no but again you know and i know this was years ago this is the same person a lot so that's true that's why they're gonna they're gonna hold they're gonna hold numbers up to him yeah the ego is there you know he's still a man he wants to win but i don't think his primary goal here is to make a bunch of money on this album i mean no it'd be very clear he wants to make a bunch of money on it and everybody has an ego and if you've been having all these number ones you want more number ones drake bait him come on that's another thing let's have some fun hey go ahead hey fuck all this shit we talking about hey drake baiting i think that's been happening the water is chummed oh yeah it's fake tug of war it's tug of war where the other team give a strong tug in the front but now it's a little tussle and now it's now it's no clear winner yet hey yo dog you want to show niggas you tough because i went home and figured it out after the ovo niggas came kicking my back in because i'm like who the fuck is he talking to i went home and i was like oh he's talking to ross that's what i came up with when i was home you think that's what he's doing okay you think ross yeah i think so when i went home the only people that because what he said you got to look at the people who put out albums recently that that seemingly to some people okay could come and go So Future, that album came and went, but that's his man. I don't think he was talking to Future. Ross just dropped the album. I don't know nobody else on the list that he could be talking to that recently dropped the album. Some people could say Ross's album may have come and went. I wouldn't say that. It just came out. But if he's saying that, I get it. And if he's shooting at Ross, that's an acceptable name. For sure. Hey, you got history there, old friendship, y'all got records, some shit happened, he been dissing you, you could diss him. Cool. But if the word is true, and hip-hop niggas going to assume it's true, that Jay-Z could be putting an album out, what that means in rapper brain is he is available to rap. That means that his brain is firing in a way right this second that I'm prepared for anything that niggas might want to do. So I see the Drake shots on the stream. Oh, the whole lawsuit. I see it. Cool. If you want to get to talking tough about the pen isn't dry, take the bait. Jump out there. Set it on that old nigga. Fire on that old nigga, yo. We'll see what happens. Fire on that senior citizen. Nah, fuck it, yo. Kendrick and Drake was years ago. Now let's turn it up. So you mean the direct one? That was years ago. Now we need to turn it up a little more. Hey, hey, hey, Drake. You mean take direct flight? Get him out that cubbyhole. Because he's been firing. Yeah, no, get him out that cubbyhole. You mean he got George Foreman out his cubbyhole? Hey, hey, enough of that, a wrong chart champ. Hey, who the fuck he think he talking to, Aubrey? Look at you, man. Hey, Drake. Aubrey, who the fuck do he think he telling- Don't let this nigga make you walk the plank. Who the fuck is he telling wrong chart to? Not the nigga that's about to beat Michael Jackson record. Not the nigga that beat the Beatles nigga. Not the nigga that built the fucking embassy and got the fucking pink closet made out of stone. Not the nigga with the wine cellar and his bathroom. And Jay-Z can talk to a lot of niggas like that. He can talk to you like that. Let's get him out that cubbyhole. Hey, Aubrey, let's get him out of there. We buying bitches' Birkins. We buying bitches' houses. We barking at hoes. Let's bark at some niggas, too. Come on, you can do it. For different reasons. Hey, you out there saying, hey, I got some more shit coming. There's some rumbling going around. You might be trying to get active. Got another project coming. Hey, let's put the kids to bed. Let's put the kids to bed. Let's get to it. Let's get right to it. Get right to it. Get right at that nigga. Get him. Get bleeped, too. Who do you think go blow the dust off your plaques was to? Like, he's been talking to him on this album. There was some shots. That's all I'm saying. You saying Drake, come out and do it. Somebody has to. You mean go be direct. Somebody has to start the dance. Anything that has been happening is my shoulder to your shoulder and us going around in a circle. You know that two niggas may want to fight, and they've said some things. Swing. A real swing. A real swing. Throw a punch. A real swing. Throw a punch. Call somebody. Get the hardest beat we've ever heard in our life. Look at the clock. And, yeah, see what time it is. Check your GPS. Check your map, wherever you at. See where you at. Put it on there. Put that together. Longitude, latitude. Hey, let's do it. 7.45 in Marcy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah, don't do that one. Not that. Wait, are you supposed to be down with what I'm saying? I'm with you, but not that. Don't do that to your man. 7.45 in Marcy. No. Let's do it. No. What's that other shit? What was that other shit JB said? Hey, let's do 8.15 on State Street. Let's have fun. That's going to let me know that the pen ain't dry. All right, I'm done. I'm done. I think the room is dismissed to me. In Marcy. The room is dismissed to me. Don't do Marcy, Brooklyn. Because let's get right to it. Let's see what this old nigga still got. Let's see what he got. I'm with you, nigga. That nigga was nice back then. Let's see what today holds, nigga. Let's find out. Joe got a gas can in his car. Joe on his motor shit right now. The cheap lighter flew. Some Zippo? Some regular over-the-counter shit? This nigga crazy. Oh, man. This nigga's a nut kid. Hey, listen. If you're going to do this shit, if you kill that nigga, the other rappers are saluted. Y'all, they won't. Yes, they will. Yeah, they would. Yes, they would. It would be crazy. They really would. They would. Are you crazy? You kill him, nigga, saluted. It's impossible. Impossible to do what? To kill that nigga. To kill that nigga. Oh, that's different. No, that's not true. Don't say impossible. That's not true. Unlikely. That's not true. We got to say impossible. It ain't impossible to kill older people. Not probable. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Not likely, but impossible. What are you fucking talking about? I'm not going to do that. It happened already to the audience's eyes. That wasn't a consensus. What? It kind of was. It kind of was. It was. For the most part, it was. I didn't feel like that, but it was. The consensus was nice. Yeah, the consensus was nice. It was. You're down with me, but hey, listen, we got to shut up. We're the minority. I'm with y'all. I understand y'all. You know we got to acknowledge the consensus. But that ain't the consensus. I know what the consensus is. That's true. I ain't arguing it. I ain't arguing it. No, now it's just consensus. But it's not like Holbein show up. It's a good fight. It was a great fight. It took a punch from God. No, let me shut up. I'm moving on. I'm moving on. None around me. I'm like a Nosverus J. I'm still not over it. Me neither. Me neither. I was just listening to Super Ugly and the Stillmatic Freestyle yesterday. Me too. Somebody post something on Twitter. That's Stillmatic Freestyle. I saw Hop's interview on Vlad, and he was talking about it. Because I forgot about the Stillmatic Freestyle. Yeah, that's one of my favorites. That shit was tough. Jumped on the freeway to. Man, please. That was tough. I was the first nigga in Jersey to know what the fuck he was talking about. Them niggas was just vibing. I was like, oh, shit. God. He said, it'll pay the full beat to you. Yeah, I'm sorry. Mona, get involved. We going viral, yo. Come on. I need your voice in this thing. We going viral. That smooth? That's it. I was going to do it. That's it right there. It don't mean nothing when a bitch go viral every other day. Stop playing with her. Huh? Come on. What you said about Sidney Starr. Let's get Mona involved. What happened about Sidney Starr? I mean, we could. I did. I did also bring up some Marines that I was worried about because I'm very patriotic, but if you want to talk about Sidney Starr, we can. Marines? Sidney Starr, yes. They don't want to talk about it. No, shut up. That's her being an activist again. Yeah, yeah. I like activist moments. No, Sidney Starr, I don't know if y'all. Because I asked Jody, did y'all talk about it already? Sidney Starr. This is the thing, right? Sidney Starr gets caught sexually assaulting a kid, 13 or 14-year-old kid, right? Some more details came out, and I think she's on camera grabbing at him or something like that, but the story that the assistant told was that they were in a hotel together, all together. She sees this kid. She approaches him, right? When she approaches the kid and talk about having sex with him or whatever, the kid agrees, and they go back to the hotel or whatever. The consensus online is that the kid might not have noticed she was transgender, and then Sidney got to talking in her old voice. It scared me. So when he gets upset, he's like, you know what? Never mind, miss. I'm only 13 anyway. She's like, no, fuck that. Let me give you this little $40 real quick. Stay in here. Don't tell nobody. That turns into a physical thing. He escapes, and at some point, she's on camera grabbing at him. But I don't know if a lot of people know, when Sidney talks to the police, Sidney says to them, well, it was consensual. He went back to the room with me on his own. It can't be consensual because it's a fucking kid. This is my thing. And I feel like people are like a. They forget or whatever. Sidney Starr has always been a problematic person. I feel like this isn't. Because, of course, people are going to take this opportunity to bash trans people, and it's what they do and all that. And in reality, it's not. You can look up the numbers. Trans people aren't out here attacking kids. That's not what's going on. The truth is. They get attacked. They get attacked, yeah, more than anything. But the truth is, Sidney Starr has been problematic. She's been an ugly asshole since the beginning. Her first big thing was the Chingy thing. And then there was a rumor, everybody talking about it, Chingy disappears from his career or whatever, and then it comes out where it's almost like, oh, she apologized, they forgave each other, and they're over it, they're past it. Now, I hate when people talk like Chingy would have been hove if she didn't do that, but still, it was damaging to his career. You can't do that to a nigga right now. It's more progressive things. You couldn't do that to a rapper now, and he survived it. It's never okay to do that. That's the thing. Can I ask you a question? And he survived it. What is Sidney Starr's. I get why we know her, because of the Chingy thing, but what is her thing? After Chingy. She did Love & Hip Hop. Yeah, after Chingy, she did a couple of reality TV shows, Baddies, Love & Hip Hop. Got it. Yeah, she chased Natalie Nunn around. Yeah, that's the thing. And it's like, every single reality television she's been on, it's always been bullshit. She's never been a fan favorite. But Sidney Starr is like an asshole. She's annoying. Like I said over there, when she was on Baddies, her whole thing was to chase the group around and beg to be on the show. Yeah, she wasn't on the show. She didn't pop up where they at. She wasn't on the show. She was popping up at the club and trying to fight. Well, I don't know this. I'm a bird. You are a bird. Mind you, it's a known thing that it's taboo. No, I watch shit, nigga. Even though Yes We Can Shit are trans women, women, it's still taboo for a trans woman to fight a cisgender woman. She on the reality shows trying to fight the girls and all that. So I feel like, I'm not saying that just because you're an asshole means you touch kids or anything like that, but it just goes with her character of being a fucking piece of shit. It's like, that's the fact that it's not of family members, not somebody she was around. She just, she see a kid Zoom. in on him and want to fuck him and take him back to the room, ain't offer her money. That's not the first time she did something like that. This just blew up in her face because she was arrested within an hour. She ain't make it far. She went right to jail and told them police he was cool with it at first. Yeah, I don't understand her defense. I mean, if this were not a trans woman, if this were just a cis woman or if this were a cis dude, lock them all up. What the fuck are we talking about? That's my point. I'm saying it shouldn't matter. That's my point. I'm saying I don't think your identity should matter when you're doing something like this. Let's keep it real. When things like this happen, molestation, rape, sexual assault, the gloves be off. We drag niggas. So the fact that people are misgendering her at the same time, I don't know if I want to hear you say don't misgender her after she did that to a 13-year-old kid. I think we have space for both, right? Yeah, for sure. In the same way that if a black person did something awful to somebody, we wouldn't allow white people to call them nigger while they're criticizing them, right? We'd say, you know what? Don't call them niggers and drag this person. Sidney Starr should be dragged. I'm not saying. Is that a. No. No. No. And hear me out. Let me make this clear. Tell me what the difference is. I want to make sure that. I don't think a misgender is a slur. No, a misgender is absolutely a slur. It absolutely is. It's a real bad slur. To trans people, yes. You're wrong about that part, but I do think it's different. Let me say this, too. Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait. If you not knowingly called. No, I'm talking about. It's always knowingly. No, I'm talking about right now. Everyone knows Sidney Starr. I'm saying right now. But I don't know what Sidney Starr identifies as today. If someone just says. Well, she presents as. Okay, you present as this, and. But you still. That gets to be a tricky game. Right. That's what I'm talking about. This is what I'm saying. If the bitch walk up with titties, she won't be called to her. Oh, come on. That's why it's tricky. That's too progressive for me. If you got titties, that's all I got for you. Let me just make my point. What I'm saying is that. The fuck? If we know that somebody is a trans woman and they identify as a woman, and we intentionally call them a dude, that's what I'm saying is. You're telling me that's the same as calling somebody a nigga? Yo, I understand y'all. I understand. I get it. So, my point is. Yo, fuck that. What I'm saying is we can drag Sidney Starr without calling Sidney Starr a dude. As long as you know who you work with. I drag Sidney Starr on my own podcast for 20 minutes, right? I manage to not misgender her. Right? I can do that. I'm just saying that when you're in the comments and you're saying, don't misgender her, and the topic is she molested a kid, it's not like a guilty or not guilty thing. She fucking sexually and assaulted a kid and tried to put this nigga in a headlock and fuck him and give him $40. I'm just saying at a time like this, when it come to kids, we don't want to hear that shit. It's more important shit to worry about than that. Because normally, we rip people apart when we talk about your mother, your father, where you from, all that. But it's like, it's always this thing where, you know, at the end of the day, I didn't misgender her. Even when I posted her, when I talk in my podcast, I encourage people not to misgender her, but at the same time, nobody wants to hear you in the comments saying, don't misgender her after this bitch did something like that. Let me offer a different take on that. Oh, God damn it. All right, then I won't. Go ahead. No, because I'm still saying it's wrong. I hope I'm not. This might be the morality that you're looking for. I'm totally saying it's wrong, but. I'm not looking for this. You don't know? But I'm shutting up. You're saying it's appropriate. He's going to use it for sure. Oh, yeah, no, he's going to be. Mark's school's moaning about transgender. Shit, all the warnings on this, that has to be. You might be selling rush cards. We're really saying the same thing. All I'm saying is, like, even if you don't. Yeah, he keeps trying to clean you up, but you keep being a dirty. I'm not. Even if you don't. Now, fuck that. This the thing. No, let me make. It's like they be on reproach. You can't say. I get it. I don't misgender people. I don't disrespect people. I don't even know why it's so hard for some of y'all not to. It's very simple for me. You walk in here dressed like how Ice is dressed right now. You want me to call you Tangerine? You a Tangerine. It's a respect thing for me. I don't get why people hold on to it. I'm going to call you what your mama called you and all that other bullshit. I agree with you. I just think if you mistakenly misgender someone I don't think that's the same as calling someone a racial slur. Hold on, hold on. I didn't say that. Remember, I started with. I'm not talking about mistakes. Again, that's what I'm saying. We're beating up an argument I'm not making. I'm saying that when you intentionally call somebody the wrong thing as a way of denying their identity I'm saying that is fucked up. Yes, it is. I'm not saying it's not fucked up. I know you're not. I'm saying. Hold on, just one second. I'm saying that even if somebody commits a crime I don't see the point. Talk about why they ain't shit. You can call. There's so many awful things you can call Sidney Starr that she deserves. Because the bitch is like Big Meech and her motherfucking mugshot. You can go all over the world. But the point I've been trying to make is just even if you don't give a fuck about her it becomes a distraction. Now you got people defending her instead of. I can call that bitch ugly. You're the Philadelphia people of this part. That's the last thing I want to say. Y'all both keep saying that. She look like Big Meech on that mugshot. She look bad as a motherfucker. She look a horrible mess. And it's the thing. One thing about being a woman. So Russell Westbrook. Once you put your foot down out the door as a woman you judged by what you look like all day long. So bitch, welcome. You look bad in that mugshot, whore. I can say that. All right, let's get off of that. Talk Sidney Starr. We got some announcements. And more crime news. Oh, crime news. Luigi has entered a guilty plea. As of about an hour ago. But let's be clear. An hour ago. Not for killing people. He's pled guilty. He pled guilty to stalking, which is the federal charge. The actual murder charge in the state he has not pled to. Oh, really? The murder, the homicide in the state. Yeah, the homicide in the state. And the federal stalking because it's over state lines. Exactly. Criminal, I know that stuff. Our senior crime correspondent. So I'm just saying that because I don't want people to think he pled out. Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying that also because that means y'all conspiracy theory. Could still be in play. Audience, I apologize. Listen to me. We've been working together a long time up here. But still, sometimes we act like we don't know what gets the people going up here. If you say something about misgendering around Mark. And Mona might not know. Parks and Freeze just be teasing me. They throw a little question when they keep them going. Facts. They keep them going. And Mark don't know how to stop. That's when he starts. That's when he starts stuttering and throwing it. Because his brain operates too fast. That's when his autism pop out. His brain operates too fast. He can't even believe he listening to such stupidity. That's what it be. When he starts short circuiting, he like, why am I around these fucking embers? I used to think that. Now I just think, if I can get this to eight minutes, I can get the mid-rolls in. Yo, listen, I said it earlier. Let me say it an hour or two. If you just now join in and you hit the 15 second skip for two hours. The price of the brain. The brick is going up. Because every day, all I do is pocket watch Mark. I hope y'all know, when I wake up. We can tell. For real, because I've been thinking I want to load it. You tweeted that shit and was like, yo, Mark posted that shit. That shit got 37,000 in an hour or something. Seven hours. I was like, yeah, Joe watching the shit out of this. Every morning, every time I open my YouTube. Yes, Mark is killing, and I have to make sure no one else does. Good business model. No, not at this rate. Not at this rate. Not at this rate. Not at this price point. We got to change it. But it's working. It's effective. Yeah, man. I want to flip a clip. It's a good idea. Salute to Joe. I'm only getting the game, girl. We're going viral this episode. We need you. And you might not be able to work again for another three and a half weeks. Come on. Shut up. Come on, say something. What I like about when you and Ish call out is y'all do it 30 minutes before you're supposed to be here. That's my favorite shit about it. No, for real. On God, my favorite thing is that y'all wait until y'all push it. It'd be 20 minutes left. It'd be 10, 14. Yo, y'all never believe. Yo, they canceled the flight on a Monday, on a Tuesday morning. This nigga just lies all day. I don't know who lies is worse, though, between y'all two. That I don't know. I want to say Mona. Mona is disrespectful. You love me more than Mona does. So you be trying to massage. It don't be an hour before work. You're a liar. Lights. Lies. Liars. And action, buddy. Gotcha. And I'm lying. You're right. It's for the plot, man. I'm lying for virality, nigga. Telling the truth and being our regular, boring self, that ain't viral. That ain't viral. I can't say that word. What word? Virally. Like, I can't. Like, I gave up on it. I don't even give a fuck no more. Do it one more time. Virally. Virally. Virally. Say it. It's tricky. Say it. Virality. Virality. If your tongue is struggling with that, it's starting to make the picture clearer, then. Your tongue can't get the rrrr, then. Your tongue can't get. Nigga, rrrr. I can do that. You ain't got to be Latina to do that. I can do that. Oh. Got it. Got it. Got it. Oh, she fired at me. I'm dead. I'm dead. I'm dead. Anyway, Luigi, he played it out. Yeah. That's where we were at. Smart move. Yeah. He tried to avoid that state murder. He don't want to die. He don't want to die, and he don't want to. I don't see a chance of him coming home. Yeah, the stalking charge carries a life sentence. But stalking the murder, but it just, you might not get the hot shot. Well, when I watched the news this morning, they said that people are in heavy talks, maybe to avoid even a life sentence. Ooh. You can have heavy talks. Yeah, because how? You can talk all you want. No, I think that's, My personal opinion, for him to take a plea, they already had to come to some negotiation already. Negotiation could be, look, you killed one of the most rich and powerful white men in the world. We can't have this shit happen again. You're definitely getting the chair. New York got death penalty? No. They don't? I don't think so. So what's he avoiding on the state level? That's my point. No, but I'm asking. The state level is life. Okay, then Joe's right. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense to me. I see now. So what's the maximum penalty for this? For what he pledged? The maximum is life. Life? First degree murder is life. Maybe he'll get 30 with a chance of parole. I'm talking about the federal charge of stalking. The maximum is life. Oh, okay. That's why I was confused by it now. But either way, one good thing about the Fed time is, you know, maybe if they give him 30 to life, 40, you know, something where he could have a chance to come at home. He's going to go Fed and state. They're going to run the charges concurrent. He potentially, maybe come home. His team said, I don't want to speculate too much, but I know what his team said for sure is that they're hoping to avoid the state charge altogether. Yeah, that's what usually happens. The Fed's trumped the state and they say bump the state case. That's what, this is different. There's a lot of media on this and because who it was, but I mean, normally that's how it go. The Fed's trumped the state. Let me tell you something. That boy, Luigi, since this murder had been committed, I ain't seen him bust a sweat. I ain't seen him blink too much. I ain't seen him walk out a step out of, he seemed like he ain't lost a second of sleep behind murdering homeboy. Yeah, and I'm down to do whatever y'all want to do. Give it to me. I did it. Take me to my, he act like he got the 2000 thread count sheets on his bunk. He do. Yeah. God bless him. Speaking of rich people and powerful people, the Lakers got sold for $12 billion fucking dollars. Twelve and a half. Twelve and a half, excuse me. That's a year after it got sold for 10. Damn, man. This ain't going to get us viral. I ain't talking on this one. Okay. No, it's important to talk about, but I ain't lending my voice to this. Let's move to something viral then. What do you think about, what do you think Charlamagne would do about it? About what? I don't know. I just figured that's usually what gets you viral. I know, we did that already. We did that already. What do you want to talk about? Dirk. We out of here. Listen, so. Yeah, we talking fucking Lakers shit. I mean, do y'all know what's going on? I mean, from what I know, the last court date, they were going back and forth about some of the evidence they got because apparently they must have took his phone without having that extraction shit situated. So, and it's such a silly and like legal tied up weird thing because it's like, they have the phone, they can go in the phone without the password but they can only see certain things in the phone. Only a couple of screenshots they were able to get. Right, so they can't, they basically kind of got thumbnails to see, like, so almost they can see what somebody said to him but can't see his response. To get that, Dirk has to either say, here, go ahead and look at it or they got to get the drugs to agree that they get to look at it. Now, Dirk ain't going to tell you you can look at his phone. That don't make no fucking sense but just the whole way that that's being done is just so strange to me. So what they've done thus far, is that admissible? It is. It is, yeah. The part that they have now, because they argued about it and they said they could keep it but again, how can you really keep it when you don't know what he said? If a nigga wrote you, man, fuck that, let's kill Kwando. You have to say, yes, let's do it. Like, what sex could be where you don't even need the response to know what's up but I guess, depending on how much, how crazy they got. And this viral take that we're doing right now, are you defending Dirk? Um, I, like, do you think he's going to beat this? Fuck no. I mean, I didn't even think, when Dirk wrote that case with Vine, I thought that was it for him back then. When he was out the car with the blind dreads, if he do beat this shit, he tell him. Yeah, here's the clip. Where I'm from. She gave it to him. It's time to go to jail. That's our clip. He beat it, he tell him. It's the truth, no. Omar, give me a couple hours to post it. You on the clock. Y'all are crazy. It's both of ours. That's what matters. This price got to go up. Also, they argued that that video was going to be a part of it. What's the song? Piss Me Off. Piss Me Off. Mind you, with the people here, because they're saying that was a call of arms to everybody. Everybody go give back to Vine. I disagree with that. I think that's bullshit, but whatever. What, using the lyrics? Yeah, I just don't see how it's fair. And I feel like it's only done to Negroes. Again, I understand. Ice note. It should ask you something for you. Hold on. I do understand, because I'm with you, with the lyrics shouldn't be used in court. Come to butt. Comma. But what's the lyrics, though? Comma. It's also, some of these lyrics be very descriptive of shit that's going on. That's all. And that song, was that one of them? She was defending him. Oh, you asked what? It has some elements in it. It wasn't as, there's some other ones that was very. They could get other ones that are more like. But I ain't putting, yeah. Yeah, this one just seemed like a kind of like a, I don't know. I just, I think it's bullshit to be able to use the songs even when they argue it down to the ground and then they decide to use them. It's like, I don't, I just. I understand it. I agree with y'all. I don't think you should ever use those song lyrics. You know the song we talking about. No, no, no. I'm saying as a general rule. Yeah. That's not my zone. But like, I get why people would want to use it. This shit is getting out of control. But you can't do it. It's just, it's wrong. It fucks up art. It's illegal. It's against the Constitution. All this shit. I don't do it. I think that. However. No, I agree with Mark. I, that rule should exist as like an artist's rule. I don't think the street niggas should get to say, hey, hey, I'm an artist. So this is what, cause y'all niggas be doing the shit. And I ain't talking about dirt. If you get in the song, if you get in the song and describe all the details of the shit we've been talking about this for the last six years, then you're done. They're taking you away. You know the game they playing out there. If you down to play that game and you put it in the lyrics, then booboo the fool is you. Sorry. I'm confused that would be the game plan. Like, you make this song, cause you know how niggas are. You make the song, you let your friends hear. When the friends that actually did these crimes with you hear you say that shit, why don't nobody go, bro, hold up. Wait a minute. That shit that happened on Tip Street, take that shit out. No, the friends that hear this shit is, yeah, nigga, yeah, that's me right there. Yeah, that's my shit. It's the same people that wear the jewelry they stole on Instagram. Like, people want clout so bad. I want niggas to know that we're just seeing a nigga get robbed in point blank range. They forced this nigga to sign some paperwork and taped it. And then rapped about doing that. Then they put this jewelry on the internet. No, no, no. And then rapped on the album about doing all of that. And then you bought the album. In man songs. And bought the deluxe version that came out a day later. Oh, shit. I bought the contraband edition. The contraband edition. I did. What was the first time we really got eyes on that from Bobby Smurda, right? Niggas that wouldn't bust a great love that album. Bobby Smurda was the first one, right? I heard you love that album too, though. So what you saying? It's cool. Oh, okay. It is a buy on that. It's a meet on that. Who was the first person we saw go down like that? Bobby, right? Oh, the lyrics? Yeah. Well, no. Who was the first person that made that a big thing before the smaller rappers from Chicago was all done? Bobby was one of the first targets. It was Bobby, right? It was Shia Lee, I think. Shout out to Shia Lee. Tell you what. You said love was going to get you and it did. I don't even want to tell my head in the rest of the episode. That's my man, too. Did you just say some wild shit? Just to say it, too. I'm close to true. Give a fuck. Wait, I said that and quoted a KRS song. I was so confused. I was like, you're going to let this rock? Listen, listen, listen. Shia Lee ain't in my mental role with that, so I was like, damn, Shia Lee said that, too? No, no, no. I'm just old. They say love's going to get you. I'm old as hell. I was like, damn, I was like, oh, damn, Shia Lee said that. I was talking about Shia Lee yesterday. I did an interview with DJ Vlad. How did that go? Went great. We had an hour and 50 minutes to sit down by the time we talk in here. It'll be up on my Patreon. It was a good conversation, man. Why did you think that that was such an unexpected interview for you? Because me and him, I didn't fuck with him. Oh. I have an issue with Vlad. That's one of the best interviews I made. That issue was platform, so I said I would never go on his platform. He called me maybe like two weeks ago and said, well, I'll come on your platform. And you said, yes, come on over, sir. That's like going to the mayor's house. No, it's not. Far from. This whole pod has been compromised. What'd you say? Compromised. Only one of us worked for Dick Wolf. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. We all make deals. That's true. Okay. I'll connect it. Yeah, you're the biggest boss. Vlad called me and we talked through some stuff. I still have the same criticism, but I have a slightly different take on this shit. But I told him, I don't think, I have an issue with how he uses platform. He thought I had an issue with a very specific thing he did with AR app. Shout out to app. It wasn't that. Oh, he was mad about that? I mean, I was mad about that, but it wasn't. I seen him do it. I have a. Shut up. Hold on. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I seen him do it. What's wrong with you, though? Free Skitty V. Free Skitty V, Aaron. That's funny. So what did Vlad do wrong? My point, that's a great question. I'm not blaming him for it. I don't blame Vlad or any other content maker for people who go on platforms and do ill shit. And nothing that AR app said in that interview with Vlad. He didn't get indicted for it. He didn't get indicted for none of that. But there was an article going around saying that the judge, personally thanked Vlad for getting him locked up. So it was kind of a fake thing. He thought I was mad about that. I was like, no, I don't like ties to the Chia Lee thing. I just don't like the platforms where it's like, And then what'd you do with the gun? And then how long did you sell the drugs? And then why'd you do it? I just feel like there's other things we could do with our culture and our platform, especially as somebody who's a white guy. But you know what some of these things are. Then put a spotlight on the worst parts of our culture. And I'd say the artists have a responsibility. I'm in control. The artists have a responsibility to not do that. To me, that's the biggest problem. But I also don't like people that kind of profit off of it. And by the second Shia Lee interview, we still asked him, and then when you backed out and shot him in the feathers, I was like, how many times do I have to go ask him this? Even Shia Lee was like, I'm tired of those same questions being asked. That's what I took issue with, and that's what I held him accountable for. So in the interview, I'm asking him, prove to me you're not a culture vulture. Explain to me how you're not part of the criminal legal system. I'm asking him the tough questions that I think he needs to be asked. This wasn't a love fest. You know, he talked about you a little bit. He talked about some other people. Wait, why he was talking about me? Oh, he said that y'all had a little tension, a little issue. He told that story, and then he said he bumped into you in New York. And you gained an understanding. He ain't do shit. He ain't nothing. You bought him some cologne and Bergdorf. Yeah, he said you burned him. We heard the story. You saw the clip? Yeah. We heard the story. Oh, okay. First time from the streets. Yeah, he said you good now. You ain't got no problems. Awesome stuff. Thank you. Thank God. Thanks for the peace offering. Well, peace offering. Joe will fuck Vlad up. Or he'll buy him some cologne. No, no, I would not. Couple bottles of Creed. Peace offering. Vlad can't beat Joe Button. I seen him in Bergdorf. Shook his hand. Asked him about his family. There you go. I came up here and told you about this. That's it. Yeah, but I held his feet to the fire for some of the things I put. I held his feet to the fire for some shit I thought he did wrong. And I was glad to do it. You know what Vlad did that pissed me off? I figured I'd share. Please. D-Ray was on there and he shared with him that he was molested and he laughed in his face. Like D-Ray was making a whole moment explaining that he was molested. That's ill. And he laughed like it was funny. Yeah. If you could see the way Imani's looking at me right now from off set. Yeah. But Imani, you're my friend. So you can joke about that. It's different. No, yeah, you can't. On an interview it's different. Because you know why? When D-Ray goes on a platform that big and talk about being molested, he frees other black men to do so. And it's not funny. That's right. If that happens to you, it's not your fault. And talk about it. Imani, you did nothing wrong. It's okay. It's not your fault. Except the voice. When you voice it, it gets better. Ain't no accounts. Give us a good segue away from these. Keep it deep. It's good. It's not the voice we're in the room to see if y'all want to talk. Ain't no accounts. We got to go. We got to go. We got to get out of there. You know it's bad when. Get us away from these crazy things. Russell Westbrook, man. We got to salute him. Salute him. There we go. Yeah, we got to get out of there. He announced his retirement. I'm so glad. I don't like it. Why? I just felt like, I think Russell Westbrook, I know certain people don't get the whole farewell tour type of shit. But I think. He deserves it. Yeah, he deserves something. He deserves it. He deserves us to know this was his last season and going into it that way. I ain't like that announcement. Go ahead. Oh, and from what I hear, he still want to play. Oh, really? He was negotiating with a team in Israel. He still want to play. Like last week. And he had no takers. So for somebody to put their blood, sweat, and tears into this game and they don't have no takers, I think it's fucked up. Because he definitely, at the bare minimum, could go get somebody. He could be way more. The Spurs could have used Russell Westbrook in the championship. Tremendously. Like, he could still be of immense value to a team. He might not be the Russell Westbrook that he once was, but. I thought, I would love for him to get a farewell tour. The problem with farewell tours is that. Hold on for a minute. What's up, man? No, I hear niggas over there going. I don't think the Spurs. The Spurs thing was a little bit weird. You hear Imani saying that. Okay, but Imani and Mark made noises and moaned. It wasn't me. I didn't make any noise. But I didn't agree. But I didn't want to get into a basketball game. I don't rock when these niggas be trying to laugh at you. I wouldn't laugh at him. I just disagree. I think the Spurs needed shooting and defense. I think the point guards wasn't really there. That was the big point. I mean, Darren Fox was a crumble, but I don't. But Harper didn't. And back to Russell Westbrook. So, Russell Westbrook, to me, deserved a farewell tour. The problem with farewell tours is, if you're not in a rotation, it's not as beautiful. Yeah, and Kobe got it. Kobe got to start every game and see it. And a lot of these, I don't want to see Russell Westbrook. I don't want to see Patrick Ewing on the Sonics, you know what I mean, or Olajuwon on the Raptors. I didn't want that for him because he's such an amazing athlete. One of the greatest athletes we've ever seen in the NBA at that position. That's fair, yeah. And, I mean, the dude averaged a triple-double four years in a row. I mean, there was a time where no one had done it but Oscar once, and suddenly he did it four times in a row, won the MVP. Played every game as hard as I've ever seen anybody play. Russell Westbrook is a giant, no problems off the court, beautiful family dude, good teammate. He's everything. And so, I didn't like that he didn't get a farewell, but I liked his retirement because he at least got to leave on his terms. But he didn't have to do that thing where you're hanging on. Like, what happened to Chris Paul last year? I didn't want that to happen to him because Chris Paul didn't deserve that either. I didn't want anything. I didn't want him to have to sit in a bad situation for another year. So, at least right now, online, he's getting his flowers. Kevin Durant left an amazing message for him. Yes, he did. And everybody else left messages. You see all the clips and pictures of him on and off the court. He's just an amazing dude, man. Shout out to him. I'm just a legend, an absolute legend. For sure. I'm super glad he didn't get a farewell tour. Glad he didn't get it. Yeah. Yeah. I know Russell Westbrook and what he meant for the people that got a chance. To see him play. And I'm not talking basketball. I'm talking about his attitude, his approach, how he carried it, how he cursed racist fans out, how he scored 61 for Nipsey, 60, whatever. How he related to the culture. I'm not going to say it's on the same plane as Allen Iverson, but it ain't far away from it for me. Like, what he meant just for real niggas watching. I don't care. The basketball stuff. That's awesome. He made it to the finals as part of a young Thunder team. Awesome. Played with some really great teams. Like Mark said, all of the triple doubles. That's cool. But who he is in this modern era to play all of those years and still carry it. Like, yo, I don't give a fuck about none of you niggas. I don't give a fuck about the commercials. I don't care about being friends with y'all and all of that shit that modern NBA just looks like today. He was a throwback. He gave nostalgia. To the people that watched 90s basketball. Russell was just a class guy. Class, class guy. Class act. Class personified. And that's through all the shit that the analysts have said about him over the years. That's through him being the guy that teams blamed for why Shaq didn't work out. The scapegoat. Like, my respect level for Russell Westbrook is just at an all-time high. Same for sure. Same. Yeah, it is. There's throw-all tours. I mean, who? I feel like it's got to be Russell Westbrook. He's gotten popularized lately, but, like, everybody hasn't had. Very few people get one. Very few. Kobe got one. Who else got one? Dirk. Dirk got one. Dirk got one. Jordan got one. Kareem got one. I mean, it's a very small list. Yeah, it's a small list. Because careers end when you don't expect. Right. That, too. Boy, Jordan got. In Wizards, he got his farewell tour. Oh, I guess. I mean, it wasn't the best Jordan, but he still got an arena full of people cheering. I went down to D.C. to watch it. It was amazing to see, man. But that's. That's what I'm saying, though. Had Westbrook, again, this kind of wasn't really on his turn, but had he announced, hey, this is my final season. Yeah. I think she looked. He would have definitely got his flowers. He would have got one. Yeah, for sure. He didn't expect that to be his last season. Who he is don't want it. Like, y'all got to stop projecting. No, no, no. I get that. Maybe he doesn't. That's a good point. Who he's been. You've seen what he said. He said, hey, sometimes you witness in the end even when you don't know it. I'm fine with yada, yada, yada. I believe him. Yeah. I believe him. I think he left it all on the court. Always. I don't think he with the dog and pony show of. He personified that. I'm going to all of these arenas, half of which I hate you motherfuckers. And now y'all like, oh, Russell Westbrook, you phony motherfuckers. Yeah, you phony motherfuckers. That's not what it been. So don't carry it like that with me now. That's the Russell Westbrook I know. So I'm glad he didn't get a farewell tour. I'm glad. I'm not glad that he didn't get another shot because I do believe he probably still wants to play somewhere. In Des Moines. Yeah. And could. And could help somebody. Yeah. But if it didn't happen. I'm always with not acquiescing to whatever the big wig corporate people are trying to fucking do. I love it. Russell Westbrook. Salute. Word. Salute. Salute. Salute. What else? What else? What else? What else? Important. Unimportant. We never. We never did music. What's the new music this week? There was a couple of joints. I didn't see much. Isaiah Haran dropped his deluxe project. He did. Cashdaw dropped something that I think is absolutely fire. Actually, let me play it. Let me play it. Let me play it. Do, do, do. Do, do. Here it is. Friend of the show, Cashdaw. Featuring Alex Vaughn. This record is called NWM. Acronyms for niggas with money or nigga with money. I said you don't know So what? I ain't no centrist I'm just trying to be somebody queen But these niggas wanna be my princess You know fucking with me is an honor Me and Lotto got something in common Cause what you gonna do for big mama for real? What you gonna do for big mama, eh? I'm a nigga for nuts Cold bitch, I be out thuggin' I like my relationships private I don't even shop at Publix All my old niggas still love me Pretty bitch, plus I'm funny And I fuck a nigga with money Cause bitch, I'm the nigga with money I be poppin' shit like I'm Big Dawg Cause I'm one of those And I want that nigga less He bookin' trips and he suckin' toes And I don't wanna be seen Or associate with you friendly hoes Before I touch a nigga with no pay Five by a hundred roses Hottest bitch under the sun He know I'm one of the ones I cannot hold a problem I never look at the price He know his pussy is tight Feel like he fuckin' the numbers I ain't impressed by a nigga that's Lookin' to fight Unless it's private Me and my bitches be up on an island I be out droppin' this ass like an island I got this aura about me These niggas childless Tryna tell me who the prize is I spit the crown on the top I got a problem Drippin' my arm around my body She is absolutely smokin' this Checkin' my mirrors You bitches so far behind me Nigga, it's me Queen of the D, bitch I'm the nigga with money I'm the nigga with money That's brand new cash, dawg That's called NWM She's the nigga with money That record is absolutely fire I'm the nigga with money I'm the nigga with money Also, my man Friday came out Friday dropped his album I wanna say it's called Tension, if I'm not mistaken I'ma play track two Which is called Can You Stay I bought it Cause it sounds like Friday Friday does indeed have a sound There go that sound I wanna hear them African drums Nigga, you know what time it is There go Wait a minute, wait a minute Yeah, up-tempo with Friday Drop I wanna hear 105 BPMs or better Here go Try to leave Feel something Hey Tribal music with Friday drop Here go Are you ready for what's coming It's a two-part question Oh, I cut it off Yeah, you heard that, boy It's a two-part question Are you leaving or you staying? You staying or you leaving? You staying or you coming? I'm leaving or I'm coming Hey, what? Wait, hold up Let him come out I love Friday Come up here When you wear that dress for nothing These Philly artists over here Yo, you ain't wear that dress You ain't wear that dress for nothing You heard what I said Hey, wait a minute now Wait a minute, wait a minute Wait a minute now Before you mind it They're making me up Hey, that's the Imani booking You could tell You know how to fuck You know how to fuck Sayin' that you only have one ring, girl But you're acting teeter Princess dream ain't never real Oh, I know they're treating ya Waste on snatch And that ass too fat Somebody's feeding ya I'll marry you ten times I'll go and put a ring on each finger Take my number, girl Just call us Who needs you freer Can you stay all night Till I'm on your head Tell me the truth, holy We can take it all We can take it too far We still goin' Listen, this record is called Can You Stay That is Friday Off its brand new album Tension In your phone And on DSP's Right this Ayyyy Wait a minute We can take it too far We still goin' Wait all night Just to know that Girl, I want you just to know That was tough Yeah Don't fuck with that That's good shit on that Friday project Friday, keep doin' what you doin', boy Uh, we got another Erica and Alchemist record Okay Yes And the album's comin' out at the end of the month Yes Finally Witch Doctor Witch Doctor Witch Doctor Witch Doctor Witch Doctor It's like a six-minute song, so I'm not gonna get through the whole thing Got it, got it, got it I may intimidate you at first Thundercat on the bass Gourmix Stimulate your universe Before it could hit me I'm gon' keep rushin' All right, dance Quick's on here Good day I don't have to break that curse Because I'm a witch Ooh Doctor No Tabitha Samantha I'm a witch Ooh Doctor No Tabitha No Samantha 'Cause a witch is Just a medium And a medium Like a medium And if you eat it up What they feedin' ya There's ways to crack 'em There's ways to crack 'em There's ways to crack 'em Sabi la. Sabi la. One thing I promise, I'm gon' keep on ballin'. You're tall in the feelings, pushing me back on it. Caught my yellow bone and came back with a choppy. 500 bucks when we park on Fluffy. I can't understand how you act all soggy. You say I can't understand how you act all cocky. I can't meet you at Delilah's. Can't meet you at Polly's. I like my bitches forced up. And my dick suck sloppy. Italian stem from Versace. Opus one up at Wally's. I made my first million dollars. I ain't changed my persona. Know it came up retarded. Dickie shorts and the polis. Yellow tape them apartments. Gang enhancement to charges. Can't forget how I started. My success was symbolic. My finesse was iconic. Caught my glow up by the darkness. She say I can't understand how you act all cocky. Talked about it. Album is a vibe, man. Vibes. Yeah, vibes. It's a different pace if you're used to Nipsey's music. For sure. You can tell this was like some warm weather, chill out vibe shit. Talking to the girls. Right. That type of shit. So, same to them. And rest in peace. I'm so upset that I missed Black Sam. I mean, I had a death in the family, but I'm so upset that I missed Black Sam. I've been waiting years to speak to him. Yeah. You and Imani and Ish did a great job. Great interview. Y'all covered a lot. He answered a lot of things that I wanted to hear from him about, but I'm so disappointed I wasn't here for that. Shout out to Black Sam, man. Shout out to the guys over there. I ain't got nothing else. I mean, you don't look at me. And if you look at Mona, she gonna start talking about her cousin and drop the mixtape. Nigga, y'all don't put us in the best position to win. I'm a Black Sam fan, too. I was jealous. I was jealous. One more thing in music. October London did drop his Love Me For Me album today. Shout out to October. Okay. There's a record on here. Your girl got that good Dirty Mac R&B back. Tell a nigga, your girl. Let's go, Big Freeze, the R&B head. Nah. Not all R&B. Putting y'all on to that new death row R&B. Let's hear what my guy is on, October London. I just can't keep doing this type of thing, you know? I'm gonna smack the shit out of you, nigga. Who you talking to? Who girl you talking to? Why you keep looking? Is this up loud? Oh, you girl, yeah. Thank you. But I bet that she'll cheat. Bruh. Oh, yeah, your girl should be an actress. I won't be caught red-handed on a match. Girl, girl, girl, girl, girl, girl. Keep looking at me. Don't you got a damn right there? Temptation's knocking at my door. Knock on my door. No retreat. I got a lady. Turn that down. Turn that down. You think that's temptation knocking. Temptation. He's so dumb. That's not temptation, my nigga. Nigga, that's me. With this 10 shot. What? This song sounds good. I said, this nigga crazy. But yeah, he got his album out. It's called Love Me For Me. It's short. Nice little 30, what is it? 31 minutes. 10 songs. So straight to it. So shout out to October. I don't know who the fuck he was talking to. He came on sassy too. Yeah, girl, nigga. How much he weigh? A pow. How much October London weigh? I'm missing something here in the gym. Fuck make him think he can just get in the booth with her. I'll say, it skills me. Track one. All this shit. Hey, Mona, why you ain't tell us, man? It's new kind of man out. You supposed to tell us that. I was supposed to tell you. Actually, Joe is too. No, Mona was supposed to tell us and then Joe was supposed to start jumping like a bird. Oh, that's true. I would have told you about it, but I ain't got it memorized yet. I'm waiting to come in here and be a bird. I just heard it when I was on the toilet this morning, but you know, how I feel about Ken the man. No, seriously. You know, being at her shows. Microphone, baby. He don't go outside. Her last show on Philadelphia LL, she couldn't even rap that shit. Like, every song, every bitch in there, like, the energy in there was crazy. I haven't seen a show like that since Uzi first came out. Like, Ken really that, for real. But you got to know the words. Yeah, you got to. You got to know the words. It's important. No, now I got to see what's going on. I might be able to memorize it real quick. Hold up. I might be able to memorize it. Let me play my girl. He know he know. He know he memorized the words already. I got to play my girl and see what's going on. He know he did. Let me see. That's just, don't fall for that. Let me see what my girl talking about. Hey. On these hoes. Oh, it's fire already. Yeah. Yeah. Let me let you bitches know something. Hey, uh-oh. I just, I just made 200 in a week. Nigga lucky that he met me. So he buy me Van Cleef. They don't hate us getting done. They just hate us getting done. They just hate us always beating. Look at Joe. Look at Joe. Look at Joe. I kind of feel like Pleasure Pete. Pleasure Pete. Shit, shit in them bitches is my forte. Wait, bitches riding on my clit. We get orgy. We get orgy. Tell these, tell these rap bitches that it's all shade. I ain't never tripping with these hoes. Let this all pay. All right, we'll be back, man. I mean, they know what time it is with my girl, Kendra. Stop playing. Stop playing with my girl, Kendra, man, bitch. What the fuck wrong with you? Anything else that we have to get to? What do we have to get to? We want to talk about this pitch for giving Tiger zero stars. Is the Tiger album out? Yes. Yes. It is out. It's out. Oh, yeah, zero stars it is. If it's out already. Isis is our Tiger guy, and he didn't even mention it. I didn't like it. I fuck with Tiger, too, and I didn't know. I didn't like it. I didn't like it. And this is his AI album, right? Yeah. This is his Phoenix Felix album. Yeah. Sorry, Tiger. It's all that vibe. It's not AI? He said he wrote it. Underneath, he wrote everything. AI or not? The beats are AI. But for guitar solos and synthesizers is what he used the AI for. For that sound. To give it that 80s sound. Yeah, that's what he said. He still did the writing, though. He wrote it. So would you still consider AI or not? He said, I'm sorry, I didn't hear your question. I said, would you still consider AI or not? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I would think so. It's just important to be clear. I don't know. It's just embellishments. I wouldn't really consider that an AI album. If I took my lyrics and put them into a prompt or whatever and had it make it sound a certain way. But I thought you said it was just guitar and synthesizers. If the real you that you lay is mid, then we focus on the AI that you use. I see. So it was trash. If human you didn't kill it, then you used AI, though. They called it a slop-pop concept album that is smug and complacent and depressing and whose very existence has made the world a worse place. God damn. Pitchfork is getting on bullshit. Oh. They be on bullshit. That is the worst review I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, that's like, that's super, super, super. But that's what they do now. They look at your clicks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, is it right? Yeah. I was a music reviewer for years. I never gave a shit. They do it. Well, they did it with Chris Brown. With his last album. They said, we're looking for clicks. And literally just said, this album is a complete piece of shit. Yeah. That was the review. The headline. What is that, the new thing? That's how you, that's how we doing shit? I don't like that. And then, and the nasty part about them, about the Chris Brown thing. The Chris Brown part, that album came out in what, May, I think it was? Maybe a week and a half ago. They just posted another one, put the review back out, and said, this album is still a complete piece of shit. God damn. Oh, my God. Just to draw more eyes to it. Right around the tour starting time. I don't like that. I mean, I. Chris and Tyga boys? Yeah. We always say, yeah, like, we keep up with the friendship. We're friends. I don't know that they still friends. They are, though. How do we know that? Because I said so. How do we know that? Yeah, I said so. Well, Manny's saying that. I said so, too. Manny Manny says so, too. I ain't listening to Ice and fucking Amani. About Tyga? But he's our West Coast correspondent. About Dave Friendship. Well, listen, that's his twin. He can tell you. We ain't heard Tyga on a Chris Brown record since Deuces. That boy don't look like no damn Tyga. Or since that mix-up. He was on Chris Brown's last album. Not Brown. He was on a previous album. And he was out at the tour last year, at the tour of MetLife. Did he perform? Or was he sitting where I was at? Yes, no, he came out on stage. Yes, he did. And did A.O. He came out on stage. I'm glad we get to buy the mix-up. You only bring Tyga up for a favor. I think this is actually where we go viral, quite frankly. This is it. We nailed that. This is the one. I think we shouldn't focus on it vibrally. Our Tyga and Chris Brown. And I think we should focus on it. You killed that one. Yeah, that Viagra ain't nothing. You should focus on shit. I give up. I'm never saying it again. Nah, you got to keep saying it that time. You have to. I did not, man. It was way better. Nothing from nothing means nothing. You got to have something. Motherfucker punched you in the mouth. Mic check. So glad y'all could be with us here today. Hopefully you enjoyed this. Here we go. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta. Hasta la vista, au revoir. So long, goodbye, our simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least. Hey. Hold up, man. Hold up for a minute. Maddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Real quick, though. Let's get the weekend started the right way. Here we go. Trying to get back in the dance. Good time. I'm playing socks. I'm just riding a racing machine. Back on the ride on a racing machine. What y'all on this weekend, man? What y'all got going on this weekend? Tell me it's lit. Tell me it's lit. Baby free. So it's lit. Yo, I found that club. I found that club you rappers is going to. I keep seeing it when I take a shit in the house with my baby because that's the only place I go for fun is the bathroom. But every time I'm on that toilet at 4 in the morning, I see that place where all y'all rappers be Frenching Quavo and everybody. Hey, one of these days, I'm telling you something. I'm going to come up in there, man. That's it. That's all I got. I ain't doing nothing else this weekend, man. Oh, my stepdad. My stepson got a scrimmage football game and my girl tried to look pretty in the face and asked me to go to. I dubbed her. Not going to no fucking scrimmage. Call me when the lights is on. Call me when the big guns got to come out. God damn it. What else is going on this weekend? I'm DJing for my brother Rasheed Chappelle in Trenton for the Jersey Fresh Fest. Hey. So that should be fun. That should be fun. A little day trip. A little day trip. Still in the Fresh Fest? Huh? Yeah, man. Should we get some? And we're making big time plans for Olivia Dean. Gotta go. Baby Rose. We gotta go? Let's go. Do you like Baby Rose like that? I love Baby Rose. Y'all put me on Baby Rose. I love Baby Rose. I love both of them. That's why it's tough to invite yourself places because the crowd will get quiet as soon as you do it. Like we was about to vibe. I'm willing to go. Everybody just kind of. I'm going to stop doing it too because I really don't get to go. It's for real. I threw the joke at first. No, you know we want you to go, Mona. Don't do that. Get out of here. You don't fuck with us outside of here. That's a fact. Yeah, you ain't been to no outings. I just gotta give you a good ticket plug, man. That's all. Mark, what you got going on? What's Project Innocence doing this week? Who y'all bailing out? I'm chilling this weekend, man. I got some kid parties to go to. I got all dad shit this weekend. Boo. Fire, fire. I mean, I'm saying fire, but I hate when your kid's friends got a party. Yo, that's what we gotta do. And you gotta get there on time. You gotta get a gift. That's when it's mama time. Oh, my God. Facts. Dads ain't doing that shit. That's when his mama time my wife is away, so I gotta take She's not going to the party with me she did we got a split, you know, you got two parties Oh, I've been saying it She go time she's going to our nieces trunk party and I'm going to the kids party. I got I definitely got the short stick Whatever moment. I have a show this weekend. Hey busy Pittsburgh what I'm Pittsburgh at the City Winery, and I got a show in Columbus, Ohio. I'm the funny mom Oh shit, okay, you're on the road road. They close - yeah, they're not that far. What's the capacity? 5,000 500,000 Now what now what? 5,000 people 5,000 bottles city winery boy funny bone. Go ahead, huh? Sell out claws fuck with them sell out number get a little better with that It's what you want this weekend, man You gonna see these tenants finally collect that rent you need all the ratchet or some lift the pole up nigga pause You need my old butterfly knife You're full of my fucking told me they was gonna pay me on a 13th and hit me yesterday deepest apologies That'll be on the 27th What more is this they paying me smart? Oh You need to borrow some my old Chinese stars, I don't know who you think you want to my day with that rusty ass 38 I Been seven months. I feel like anything would help it just make this way You could bring a roll of aluminum foil And Mona give me your own Sneak shoe size in the address cuz you was a char saw a bus a hey Well, he was asking somebody for something they hit me. It was like tell Mona. She don't have to do this. Oh, yeah Silly he he got a journalist page. We do a free giveaway. Put your name yet email me I'm a black girl He's right my damn Mona white. I'm nigga. What is the competition? Why are you so did you win it work, Lisa? Yes, he's like get her size, please. She don't have to do this Shouts My technique cool out no Ego oh, I'd love to stay in chat with y'all but my social batteries during My tolerance level It's over man. Listen y'all. Have a good time out there Have a safe weekend Have a good time. Yeah, I mean Hey, we will try to do the same same time same place next week, man Y'all hold it down You've never heard of Joe, bud? No, Joe, bud. I'm from the web and nitty era. It's the network. You better hold on, Shorty.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast opens with a comedic disclaimer, emphasizing it is for entertainment only and not serious.
  2. The hosts discuss the definitions of "womanizer" vs. "whore," with Ish distinguishing himself as a former "whore" but not a "womanizer," leading to debates and jokes.
  3. They share personal stories about aging, including Parks’ realization of his past behavior while scrolling through 2023 texts, and discuss phone memories, legacy contacts, and the risk of explicit content resurfacing.
  4. The conversation shifts to Lionel Richie’s comments on Motown artists' misconduct, with the panel arguing that older musicians also had transgressions, sparking a debate about generational hypocrisy.
  5. They talk about teen pregnancy rates dropping significantly since the 1990s, attributing it to changing social behaviors, and joke about teachers and female podcasters being promiscuous.
  6. The hosts discuss the phrase "suck my dick" (SMD) as a boiling point insult, debating age limits and female equivalents, with Mona sharing a story about being hit with a bag of rocks during an argument.
  7. They cover a controversy where Ray Daniels claimed Jay-Z had a finished album, leading to Roc Nation calling it "fake news" and Charlamagne giving Ray "Donkey of the Day," which the panel critiques as harsh and potentially influenced by Charlamagne’s business ties.
  8. The episode includes a Prize Picks ad, NBA schedule talk, and Ish’s new friendship with Atlantic City Mayor Marty Small, which the hosts mock as opportunistic.

Summary:

The Joe Budden Podcast episode 955 features the usual panel—Joe, Ish, Parks, Mark Lamont Hill, and Mona—engaging in humorous, unfiltered banter. The show begins with a playful disclaimer, then dives into a debate on the terms "womanizer" and "whore," with Ish denying the former while admitting to the latter, leading to jokes about his past. The hosts share anecdotes about aging, including Parks’ discomfort reviewing his 2023 texts and the dangers of phone memories resurfacing explicit content.

They then critique Lionel Richie’s comments on Motown artists’ misconduct, arguing that older musicians were equally flawed, and discuss the decline in teen pregnancy rates, attributing it to changing youth behaviors. The conversation pivots to workplace promiscuity, with jokes about teachers and podcasters, and the insult "suck my dick," where Mona recounts being hit with a bag of rocks. A major segment covers Ray Daniels’ claim about a finished Jay-Z album, Roc Nation’s denial, and Charlamagne’s "Donkey of the Day" award, which the panel deems excessive and possibly tied to Charlamagne’s business relationships.

Interspersed are ads, NBA talk, and Ish’s new friendship with the Atlantic City mayor, which the hosts mock. The episode blends humor, personal stories, and pop culture commentary, maintaining a casual, irreverent tone throughout.

FAQs

The podcast states that all thoughts, views, and opinions expressed are for entertainment purposes only, and it is not serious or real. They also do not encourage listeners to try anything discussed at home.

The host met Ish at a Spades game around 2004 or 2005, where Ish was a plus one. Ish later introduced the host to Ice, and they all became close through shared activities.

A womanizer is defined as a man who constantly pursues, flirts with, or has short-term sexual relationships with many different people. The hosts debate whether this differs from being a 'whore' and eventually agree they all fit the definition at some point.

They noted that teen pregnancy has fallen by 80% since 1991, with fewer high school students reporting sexual activity today. They attribute this to changes in how young people socialize, like spending more time online.

The hosts discuss 'SMD' (suck my dick) as a disrespectful phrase that used to be a boiling point in arguments. They debate whether there is an age limit to using it, with some suggesting older people should say 'kiss my ass' instead.

Ray Daniels claimed a Jay-Z album was finished and coming out, which Charlamagne criticized by giving him 'Donkey of the Day' after Roc Nation denied it. The hosts debate whether Charlamagne's criticism was influenced by his business ties to Roc Nation.

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