The episode of the Joe Budden Podcast blends humor with serious hip-hop commentary. It begins with the hosts joking about jail rules, particularly the "honey bun" myth, where a honey bun left on a bed implies a sexual advance. This leads to crude but playful banter about prison life, though the tone shifts to a more analytical discussion of recent rap beefs. The main topic is 38 Special’s diss track aimed at Jadakiss and Jim Jones, debuted at Summer Jam’s pre-show. The hosts criticize the track for its underwhelming beat and execution, arguing that 38 Special missed an opportunity to make a significant impact. They particularly condemn his decision to diss Jim Jones’ wife, Chrissy, viewing it as a low blow that could escalate tensions beyond rap. The conversation explores whether 38 Special’s actions are driven by entitlement, given his frustration over a failed collaboration with Jadakiss, and they warn of potential real-world repercussions. The episode also covers a feud between Memphis Bleek and Yayo/Uncle Murda, debating themes of mentorship and financial independence. Bleek argues that Yayo and Murda rely too heavily on 50 Cent, while they counter that they’ve earned their own success. The hosts dissect the fine line between gratitude and dependency, using personal anecdotes to illustrate their points. Throughout, the podcast maintains a casual, humorous tone, punctuated by ads and playful jabs at each other, making for an entertaining yet insightful discussion.
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Everybody, everybody, it's a community.
Welcome all, welcome all. We're in a good mood today.
Yes. Facts, facts.
We're in a great mood today. We're looking good, smelling good.
I would start with a prayer, but we're protected by our Lord and Savior up above.
We pray for patience and discipline and the strength to deal with all the weirdness going on on Earth.
We was talking about the honey bun shit.
What's the honey bun shit?
You're playing this to me.
And I was the honey bun on your bed in jail.
Oh.
Oh, this doesn't sound good.
Now, I want to say, I ain't jail man.
So I don't know all the jail rules.
So sometimes the internet teach me about the jail rules.
So I saw a clip.
Homeboy, he said, yo, don't eat the honey bun if you go to jail if you see a random honey bun on your bed.
And it was like, why?
He said, well, if you eat the honey bun, that wasn't your honey bun.
Huh?
So whoever put it on your bed is going to come.
Now you give that honey bun back.
Yeah.
You're like, I ate the honey bun.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You honey bun.
No, no, no.
It's in there.
You honey bun.
It's in there.
It's in you.
You ate it, right?
Oh, I still need that.
I got to go get that.
Oh, shit.
So he said he woke up and homeboy was pounding a mountain.
What?
From the back.
He felt sharp pain.
That's where the vid cut off because I saw a reactor there.
He was like, what the fuck?
I saw wheels.
Shout out wheels.
So I was like, I never been in jail long enough.
Like, the longest I ever did is when they took too long ponying up the bail money.
And I'm looking at the clock.
So maybe call it 32 hours.
Sheesh.
34.
That's a big.
But if somebody would have put up.
Fuck.
No, they moved me from, hey, where the bailout niggas go to General Pop.
Man, I was like, hey, what the hell is going on here?
But anyway, if they'd have put a honey bun on my bed.
Like, on some snack shit.
Like, just on some hungry.
Here you go.
Looked out.
Now you got to get dicked out.
I'm like, ah, somebody heard focus.
It was feeling my cat a lot.
You better be focused.
Yeah.
For the next 40 years.
I 100% would have ate that honey bun.
In Hudson County, they didn't do that to me.
Shout out to everybody in Hudson County.
And niggas look out for you when you go rap.
If you spit a few verses.
A honey bun.
Ooh, snack time.
Yo, shut the fuck up.
You got to spit in verses, all right?
Yeah.
You got to play boy.
The frosted honey bun, nigga.
You got snicker bars on your bed.
Muffins.
Well, I ain't really a snicker dude, but a honey bun?
You would have been a snicker doodle.
That's crazy.
We got to fight if I wake up and you fucking me.
I would hope so.
I didn't get to that part.
I didn't get to that part in the video to hear what dude did.
But when you get out, nigga, square up.
When you get out.
Hey, yo.
When you get.
And you're going to be weak for nothing.
Hey, yo.
Come on, ish.
Yo, what's up with you?
Yo, you said when you get out, we got to square up.
What are you talking about?
He's talking about out of prison.
He's scared.
That's not what he was talking about.
That's not what I meant, bud.
Oh, you meant get out your ass?
You know you fucking freak?
Y'all are disgusting.
Sometimes I think when I open with a topic, y'all would share what y'all would do in that.
But y'all just look at me.
I'm going home.
Ice you, you naughty boy, nigga.
I'm not you naughty boy.
Ice you somebody's icy honor, nigga.
You icy honor, nigga.
Damn.
Fam.
You ate that honey bun.
Fam, Ice is going home.
You ate that honey bun, nigga.
I'm not making it there.
But if you happen to be there.
I ain't going to jail, neither.
You don't dictate if you make it there.
Ooh, cup of noodles.
That's free.
No, you don't.
Yes, he will.
No, he can't.
He can't dictate that.
He'll get him all the information he needs.
Yo, my nigga, you could go to jail without having a coat.
It's a fact.
Then what happens?
Well, Ice don't commit no crimes.
Bruh, it could be a mistaken identity.
Or something.
The innocent.
In the jail, nigga.
Yeah.
Then you out.
Then you out.
Then you out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just hold me down.
They ain't putting one honey bun on free shit.
They're going to come with a bucket, a barrel.
And they got sweet charcuterie.
There's going to be a group.
There's going to be a few niggas.
And then.
He going to be icing.
That was nasty, bro.
Why y'all got to start out being gay?
Y'all.
What?
Y'all.
Please.
Y'all.
Y'all gay.
Free.
The nigga said, it's a pack of honey buns.
The whole little Debbie cart on your shit.
Free.
Oh, my God.
Free is going to lay in that shit, too.
Y'all are disgusting, y'all.
Y'all are nasty, bro.
What's wrong with you?
Free's head going to be banging on his apple.
Bop, bop, bop, bop.
Oh, you got apple watch in here, boy?
Oh, man.
For you to connect.
Yo, y'all don't have to be gay this episode.
Shout out to all our supporters from the LGBTQIA community.
And the prisons.
Plus.
And the prisons.
Word.
Because you niggas got iPads and walk-ins and shit.
And they be listening.
I hope to never see you again.
I never see none of y'all.
But I'm going to see y'all one day.
It's going to happen.
No.
It's power of words.
They're going to make something up.
Wrong foot.
Hey, you look like somebody.
You know all the black people shit.
Oh, y'all don't know.
They may come home.
That guy's going to be relieved.
They're going to come home and you may see them.
You mean you hope not to see them in prison?
You hope not to be in the same prison?
No, I hope not to see them when they come home, either.
You don't see them, you niggas.
I thought about what you said when you talked about the Jay-Z shit.
Nigga, I know you don't like to be bothered, nigga, but so what?
Like, it's just something about, I dealt with the same thing this weekend.
Like, niggas just don't care.
I live vicariously through you.
You got to just accept niggas.
You around enough criminals for me.
No, I'm not anymore.
Like, when I see it through your shit, I'll be like, yeah.
Nah.
We got a present still.
Niggas is too aggressive, nigga.
And you just got to respect it.
Nigga, who cares if you're not in the mood?
Nigga, I love you, nigga.
It's all right, my nigga.
I love you too, nigga.
That's something you would say.
Are we still talking about the honey bun?
Nah, hell no.
Look at you feeling freaky.
Look at you.
Look at you feeling away.
Well, he's talking about using the moon.
He would have been the honey bun giver.
Parks would have been the one giving out the honey buns, nigga.
Just on some freak shit.
Yeah.
Parks is crazy.
Yo, them niggas in jail is freaks, yo.
Why you put honey buns in my bed, you want to fuck?
Why you ain't got no game?
It ain't even a. Just flirt, bro.
Turn them.
Ain't no bitches in there.
Use a little romance.
Yeah.
Turn them.
You're going to turn them, all right?
Chivalry is dead, I see.
Oh, man.
Oh, Mark, what's up, bro?
Wake it up.
Wake up, man.
You cool?
I'm great.
You're waiting for the subject to change.
All right, well, let's change it.
Where's your wedding ring?
Oh, shit.
Oh, it's in the. Joe's being funny.
Let's change it, then.
It's in the cleaners.
Wait, where's your wedding ring?
Yeah, I got a new one coming.
A silicone one.
My fingers are. My finger's fractured, so I can't really fit one.
You ain't wore your wedding ring in a little bit.
Since I fractured the finger.
It's amazing how that works.
Yeah.
So you're getting a silicone one?
It's a bigger size.
It's a bigger size, and it stretches.
Why don't you just wait?
Well, okay.
That's a lot.
We're still gay here.
On some honey bun shit.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I don't. I buddy tape it when I train.
Colby.
Colby, boy, shit.
Yo, you niggas got a lot on the corner.
Never mind.
I know.
You know what?
I'm going to take a little dark piece of tape and tie it around my. Yo, these fans are crazy.
They noticed I didn't wear it.
Because I tried to put it back on, and it didn't fit.
That's why.
So they noticed, and they made videos about it.
Flip might be right.
Mark's having problems at home.
Don't throw me in that.
That's what they said.
They said Flip is on to something.
You started it.
Talk to them niggas.
You right.
A lot of shit you said.
You literally. You right, too.
Don't throw me in that, boy.
You talking about don't?
Hey, I think you. You on the trail.
It don't matter.
I'm not playing.
This is the time you insert a jinkies.
Nah, Mark.
Anything cool at home.
Everything great at home.
We did our show together yesterday.
Me and my wife and I didn't have it there either.
Again, this damn thing.
Oh, she just showed up.
That's financial abuse and manipulation.
I just want to point out, hey, that's my old trick.
Have a gig with them.
Just in case the romance bar falls through.
They still got to show up.
They stuck.
It's a form of control.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, for sure.
For sure.
Yeah, what's up, Reed?
Yo, what's good, man?
I see you started your gig with George.
That's my man right there.
Don't worry.
My pop is getting thicker.
I'm right behind you.
I'm about to put mine on kick or some shit.
Hey, sit there.
Sit there.
Hey, sit here.
I heard.
Yo, I watched your shit, too.
I heard it.
I said, what?
Oh, no.
They was in their bag over there.
Yeah, we over there playing GTA, man.
We chillin'.
I love that.
Having a good time.
And you look good.
You look better over there.
Like, you got a gamer face.
For real.
Nah, he look like the gamer.
You always think I'm John McAdoo.
He's like Denzel among gamers.
It sounds funny, but I'm with you.
That's kind of what I'm saying.
He look like the Megatron gamers over here.
It's pride.
That nigga look like. That nigga look like Odysseus found his way home.
Julius Gamer.
Nigga, this natural habitat.
Big-ass game face.
He's sitting there giving some takes.
Hey, y'all both was on camera?
Nah.
I heard it.
Oh, boy, no.
Not yet.
Not yet.
She talk out of nowhere.
I said, oh, shit.
She said, yo, you want me to get out the car?
I go, oh, they playing together.
I watched it.
Yeah, we playing together.
Freeze, keep off camera, nigga.
Yeah, yo.
She's coming on camera, bro.
I just got my. She don't have a setup yet.
I just ordered all that shit.
Plus, it's two rooms.
That's my old move, too.
Ooh.
Find a star, pour into them, and dick them down, right?
Find somebody that's got some untapped potential
that they're not really seeing without your support.
Give her a honey bun.
Give my honey bun.
Give him a little honey bun.
Dick them down.
Make sure they get on camera and speak power into your name.
That's right.
Mark doing it.
Anybody doing it except for. Speaking of being off camera, Ish was in D.C.
What's up?
What's up?
How was your. Yo, you on bullshit today.
No, I'm not.
Yes, you are.
Yes, you are.
We're in a great mood.
We got great topics.
That's where you're in your best mood.
I'm chilling.
I'm really depressed.
I'm just fucking cracking on y'all about it.
You're in D.C. again?
Yeah.
When was you in D.C.?
This nigga won't leave D.C.
I came home last night.
Did you move?
I did.
Are you going to?
Nah.
Shout out to everybody in the DMV.
True.
Showing me mad love and. Oh, I know.
That's my boy.
That's my boy.
That's my boy.
You know what that mean already.
He ain't going to say it.
He talking to somebody.
Yo, y'all out of time.
How did he show you mad love?
You know who you are.
Yo, you know who you are.
What Drake said.
This goes out to you.
Baby, you my everything.
You're an idiot, bro.
What'd you. You was in for five minutes.
What's showing mad love mean?
Like, while you was building a house?
He put the D in DMV.
For sure.
The pot is huge in DMV.
The pot is huge everywhere, bud.
Oh, you talking crazy.
Buddy, the DMV, though.
He talking that freak shit that's huge, huh?
He hemathy.
And you was already kind of semi-hemathy pause out there.
So now. He was hot.
Now you. Thanos is dead.
Nah, she was dope.
You said who's dope?
They was on your dick?
Nah.
The girls, I mean.
Nah.
A couple of them?
I don't see any of that.
I'm talking about. Wait, wait, slow down.
Don't speed past that one.
You don't see any of that.
I'm about to answer you.
When I'm outside, like, I'm at Home Depot yesterday.
Literally, at Home Depot yesterday.
And the niggas from. I know that trick.
Nah, I'm staying quiet.
I want to hear where you're going.
I knew that.
I know that trick.
You might have one.
Nigga, this story better end with a bang.
Bro, nah, seriously.
I'll tell you that one.
Nah, I don't.
Hey, I would jump one that counts.
Yo, dog, no bullshit.
No.
Yo, dog, in the Home Depot, it's other grown men.
It's a little weird, though.
The grown man was going to get other men in the store to bring him over to. To meet you.
That's him.
Meet and greet.
Nah, that ain't him.
That's him.
That sounds about right, though.
That shit is crazy.
That's crazy.
So that, you know, that's fire.
No women in there, though?
Yeah, there's women that work at Home Depot.
Yeah, in the Depot.
The guy didn't do that work.
In the DMV.
How many days you out there for?
From Friday to. To Thursday.
I went Saturday.
Oh.
So Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Flew or drove?
Drove.
I flew down, drove back.
You went to. You went to CVS when you was out there?
I ain't going to lie.
Stopped at CVS?
I ain't going to lie, you doing something.
Did you go to CVS?
You keep driving up, nigga.
I'm working.
Nah, nigga, you bringing some shit back.
What you doing, boy?
I'm going to your truck.
You keep driving up.
You got a rental, can I. You doing something, nigga.
I used to do that.
I don't know what you used to do.
You up to something, nigga.
Look at that.
You had to, nigga, stay down there with that. You was a mule.
Nah, nigga.
Nigga, see, here you go again.
No, nigga, you a harboring fugitive, nigga, in your fucking house, nigga.
You're hiding Mexicans, nigga.
I am.
Watch your mouth.
All right, don't do it.
Now, listen.
Mr. Eesh.
You doing something, and I need to get down to the bottom of it.
I want in on what you got going on.
What's your credit like?
Ah.
All right, well, can't get in.
You can look at him and guess his credit score.
For real, I told you.
He don't look like somebody that's killing the credit.
And you can look at him and tell that. You can look at him and tell he's an. See, he look like a. He's an. I know, I'm not laughing.
He's getting. He's an. He's in a truck that's like a 590.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
A 590.
I know, yeah.
Internal prison ass nigga, you going through it.
Your wife just show up to the spots, nigga.
Honey, you there?
Nigga, get dressed.
Nigga, we about to record.
You bitch ass nigga, chill the fuck out.
You next.
Yo, bro, you get. You next.
You start this, though.
So what?
All right, cool.
Say less.
I love all y'all niggas.
Don't just leave me alone.
Oh, man.
My credit score.
My credit score's good now.
Jumping.
What's good?
Is it in the sevens?
No.
Almost.
Okay.
Six, 12.
Right.
No, no, hell no.
That's low six, nigga.
It's high six, nigga.
I had to do the move.
I had to do the. Keep that to yourself, bro.
Yeah.
Why?
There's a lot that I have to hear about.
There's a lot of shit up here that is really important to me.
I want to hear about Parks and Freeze at Summer Jam.
Yes.
I want to hear Parks fight his way out of this 38th special box.
I'm muting up.
I want to hear about Mark.
I want to hear about Mark pulling out the fucking 50 Cal on Homeboy.
Oh, shit.
Like, there's a lot going on today.
You pulled a gun on somebody?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He pulled out that education gun.
He's a ball boy.
Oh, the nigga on the. I watched that shit this morning.
Oh, my God.
Mark is a maniac.
Mark's an asshole.
He's a maniac.
He's a flash.
But for the people born in the 2000s, come on, man.
Let's have some fun.
Yeah.
Fuck, man.
Oh.
This is it, man.
This is it, baby.
You know what it is.
You might see me in the Jag truck.
Masked up.
Keep up with a dime or a bad duck.
Double off a T with the matching bandana.
What year is this?
What year is this?
Early 2000s.
Yes, it's 98, right?
Some where there.
See, in 98, niggas didn't hear this and say, let's play with him.
No, they didn't.
Nobody said that.
Nowhere.
That's when I ran away from home.
living my baby mom's she's cooking get a car she's in the hood no stop you ain't
come outside why not she was in the hood Joe Budden 19 stop playing me boy you
just met me when I was grown playing me boy you are so you was when you came
even though I love Mike check what you want to make check what you want to put
our eyes on the table so glad I could be able to the rednecks up in the mountain
to try to play for me tell you what I want you to know fuck what you asked me
probably don't want me to blow whole while yo what's going on out there shout
the j1 nigga even though I'm able to flip you pay
and if you call up and I write a hook for a drop
and I write a hook for a drop
whatever's in the bank is my bet a see-saw my bet you get the lay down the net
yo where my co-punks co-punks co-punks you check this out
we can't really figure this clown out where is he from Jamaica, Queens, Cali or down south
I could let a LA gun hit him from Great Street whole New York City what's up out there
I could let a New York knife poke him with one of my throwaways
but I don't want to see no cops smoking
somebody tell Paul we rioting
get ready to auction off the cars we dyin'
bump head, since you like having people with you
get you a hospital with bum bags
without Dr. Dre you would just make slow jams
come up out of that witness protection program
don't really respect me, get in your place
if Ben was alive, he'd have probably spit in your face
now I'm doing just fine without you
I probably would have made an album about you
so I guess that just leaves me
here to get rid of you
always for the ladies, always for the ladies
Big Jersey, what's going on?
Patronies, what up out there?
Subgroups, what up out there?
2005, nobody fights fair
I just know an instrumental's your worst nightmare
if it's tough for you, bad, too bad, you mad
probably been in your old hood more than you had
and you sold more records than me
but in the streets you will always be sexy
shout out to all the hate listeners out there
everybody running around on vacations and all that
damn near killin' me
you don't even even consider rapping to a song
this is probably the best thing to happen to us
the best wingster, internet gangster, magazine monster
shit on your whole roster
oh my god
sheesh
ho buffalo, what's going on man, what's popping out there?
everybody up, getting their morning cup of coffee and all that
whatever vice you into, whatever you need
trees got it, you heard that?
whatever old nigga, new nigga, what?
yo, yo, yo
who really the best rapper since big ain't here?
y'all know the answer to that when kids ain't here
when you see me, don't ask me nothing about us
and don't definitely ask me nothing about motherfuckers
you owe me one, I owe you two
I would've smacked you with a burger but I know you through
and I'm not talkin' to him, I'm talkin' to you
matter of fact, talkin' to y'all
life is like walkin' in the yard
niggas stab you with a fork
I don't think that's a thing, rap niggas
it's some niggas that can rap really, really well
that may not be the greatest at making a diss track
and on the flip side, it's niggas that don't rap the greatest
that may make an amazing diss track
and then you have the anomaly of niggas that are aliens and do both
so, here it goes
you guys might as well be murkin' niggas
'cause the time that they givin' out is hurtin' niggas
and all these trackin' labels jerkin' niggas
and you never was a thug, you's a workin' nigga
and you heard that shit right there
yeah, I started that hat
don't make me twist somethin' up in your starter hat
don't matter who you are or where you from
screw all of that, I'm not tryin' to hit it, son
I got it now, though, baby
This is what the street will raise for us
Six shots out of the western
So much purple, a drought is out of the question
Blow your heart out of your chest then
Lay low in a trunk duplex down on the western
Focus on what I invest in
Got married to marijuana, yeah and the Kinect is my best man
Even though the game gon' change, it's the same old thing
Most of my cash came off the desk
Six, four, five niggas with used deuces
White pipe, late night treatment
Yo, if you was born after the DJ was talking over the track
Mute the fuck up right now!
What the fuck y'all think I make music for?
And I'm about to get a gallon of water
You know what I mean?
K-Slay, P-Cutter and all that
What the fuck they talking about?
DJ Boom and all that
What are they doing?
And I still rip a nigga beat like I bought it
And it's my time so I'm glad I caught it
My bars could be smoked and the pipe would snow
Just make an eclipse
It's his head, it's his head
It's his aim, it's his eye, niggas
This shit's got no future
Y'all keep trying to force ya
Until you get popped by the wall
My plan is to amaze ya
And even when they try to make the guard dress up
I got the hammer and the blazer
Step my game up from the potato to the laser
So you gon' need surgery even if it graze ya
Motherfuckin' kiss of death, nigga
Double R, D-block and you know the ghost is next, nigga
Can't find you, we just smoke the next, nigga
Never hold nothin' in, you're supposed to check, nigga
Motherfuckin' kiss of death, nigga
Can't find you, we just smoke the next, nigga
Can't find you, we just smoke the next, nigga
Everything we do, stay gettin' overlooked
Now y'all be shook, cause we dealin' with real drugs
I can't lie for a while, y'all catches on us
But now, if you can't beat us, join us
We tryin' to blow live with the talks in the booth
Yo, shout to all the truck drivers, all the teachers out there
All the kids gettin' ready for college and all that
Andrew, Mark, B-11's, mom hats with the thangs
Head-on head collision, I'm a problem
And nobody can solve on my long division
On the road to success, but it's more of a mission
They said I would be dead or I was goin' to prison
And one of them is certain
But the other one isn't
I make rare decisions
Rock diamonds that impede
And even supply drugs, yeah, it's a little
It's like I'm just startin'
But I got niggas who took hands to get them
Whenever I see them, notice the same thing is with them
He destroys tracks, the minute he hears the rhythm
Only a hell of a flow, but his ears forbidden
If you think this is a ringtone, yeah, you kiddin'
50,000 records, so right, yeah, you kiddin'
It was his time to go, he can't build
He appreciate life and got air for livin'
C.P. by the league
A good cheetah
Sergio Tech sweatsuit
Good Adidas
Jews is invisible that we was supposed to get from them
Used to send them to the store, now we blowin' pit for them
Nowadays it's different
I was fortunate cause I did a lot of listenin'
The new era is missin' it
Everybody 357 and 455 in it
Drug program, 2 to 4, 3 to 60
Bad sit niggas way out by Lake Michigan
Yo, thank God for us, man
Thank God for us up here
It ain't too many outlets that remind y'all of what hip-hop used to sound like
Or you fuckin' new age digital babies
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
Beato with the potato
And clap at niggas in broad day, though
You know the flow
Where it come from and where it go
Where it's gon' be at
That's where we at
I'll touch you
Alright, we got a great show lined up for y'all
We about to have a whole lot of fun, man
You, three niggas, you don't want none of
Make your insides feel like the summer
You gettin' dumber and dumber
While we gettin' smarter and smarter
Makin' shit harder and harder
We took this rap game like it's harder
Our name on styles is Raw Steam from Casino
And Sheik is the boss of the Hennessy game, you know
Millions, you talk Casino
Used to stash dope in our ski coats
Couldn't play it sweet, though
You know the kiss
On the low in the mix
Blowin' drugs, sippin' Red Alley and Moe
Alright, you got it ready?
You got it loaded up over there?
Loaded up over there?
In the box with the suit on
Like you used to look at the carpet
All right, good
Congratulations, homie
You made history
All right, let's get right to it, man
1.1 million in a short week
Let's have a little bit of fun
At the end of your fuckin' record, niggas
You know what he did when he put me there, you motherfucker
He didn't block it
One thing up here may co-sign you, nigga
And you make me look like I'm your man
We were homeless like grown men
You won't win
You don't even feel comfortable on your own skin
I rip my ass off
Fightin' a champ with a glass jaw
And the guard an ass off
You see me, couple hood niggas behind stars
Heard you put a couple good niggas behind bars
I might never sell that much
You can bet your last two quarters
I never tell that much
Hey, you know what I'm sayin'?
Just not come out swingin'
Just like on the C-50 at a show
Yo, and shout out to the whole Queens
It ain't really about that right now
We over that
We owe that
This is just like a reminder
Like, why, why, like
It's really gon' be for good
I'm holdin' 4-5 myself
Hop out the range
I'm 1-4-5 myself
This is a true fact
Since when has it become
All right, Mark, you ready?
You ready to go?
You ready to go?
You ready to go?
Is she ready to go?
You ready to go?
Freeze, freeze, freeze, big freeze
Now I gotta melt you
Don't try to pull a prank on kids
Cause the niggas I'ma send to do it
Ain't gon' miss
Be straight up stiff
I switch straight up piff
I do real songs with big
No made-up shit
I don't got a problem with clout
You ain't get shot in the ass
What you say tonight?
What about it?
The rap's not preschool
Without money, now be cool
For a swell up your lips like seafood
I get a mic check
If you don't stand a chance
To dance with me, don't
Yeah, they can't park
Hey, freeze
Hey, freeze, look at Mark
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Y'all leave him alone
You should just sell clothes and sneakers
Cause after your whole camp
Your flow's the weakest
I'm in a town with a young boy
With his predicate
Running around with a lieutenant
And a captain
Gonna take a lifetime
To see kids
You had to get shot
All right, man
You rich, fat-ass nigga
You's a animal
You's a motherfuckin' animal
Oh my God
Somebody that can sit in a dark room
And do that
Yo, I'm getting these drops out the way
And we right to it, man
We ain't got time to play
No, Joe, burn
Not for daddy
It's Parks
It's Parks
It's Parks
Oh, dude
You icy ass shit
Who is that?
Is Mark the Mario a pussy?
I'm from the Weber
I'm from the Weber nitty era
It's the network
All right, mic check
So good to be here
What episode is this?
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Flip, what's up with you?
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Let's get to work
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Next to Flip
Our good brother
Philadelphia's finest
Dr. Mark Lamont Hill
Is in the building
Mark, what's poppin'?
Ain't shit, man
I'm good
Good, good
So happy to be here with you
Next to him
Stop playin' with him
D.C.'s finest
Virginia's finest
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Findin' red hook
Yeah, stop playin' with him
Big freeze
I mean, not freeze
Issues in the building
Make some noise
Big issues in the building, man
So glad he could be here with us
Master Green
That's that it, should he
With the camo
It's from the 90s, man
Y'all know what time it is
Issh, how you doin', my brother?
I'm good, dawg
Good, good
Happy to be
Drain, right?
Driving takes a lot out of you
Yo, tell me about it, yo
You never realize it
Like, when you drivin' back
Like, drivin' home
It's different from flyin' back
The flight back home is shorter
When you drivin' back home
After you stop at that CVS
Around 11 p.m., too
The pharmacy closed
They ain't that close
Self-checkout is just you
In that aisle
And it's mad at them in there now
Strawberry Durex
Fuckin' lavender raspberry
Thin lambskin
Texture
Rigged for her pleasure
Rigged for her pleasure
Next to it
Stop playin' with him
You can check him out
On his channel
Stop playin'
Big Freeze
In the building
Freeze was poppin'
What's goin' on, man?
Nothin' much, how you doin'?
I'm great, great
Good, absolutely love that
You caught the
Puma stripe with the sweats
You did it
Appreciate it
You did, you look good
Next to him, man
The khaki shorts
Won't save him today
He got a rep for his hood
Elmira
He stood strong on some shit
Big Parks is in the building
I'm here
Parks, how you doin', man?
Feelin' great, man
How about you?
You didn't call out
I'm good, I'm good
I'm never callin' out
I love that you didn't call out, man
Poe is here for about an hour
Oh, you are here
Ain't you leavin'?
Friday
Friday, he not leavin' today
Where you goin'?
Today's not Friday
Yo, you tryin' to make it happen to me
You tryin' to make life go fast, boy
It happens to me
Nah, it happened to me, too
Nah, I'm blurrin'
It's over, yo
It's alright, man
I swore it was Friday
I said, how was y'all weekend?
Friday's is like Tuesday
Since I don't go nowhere
It's the same shit to me
It's always the same
Just a blur, right?
I was fucking staring at each other.
I love it, though, man.
I love it, though.
It's absolutely amazing.
Corey is here.
Our new photographer is here.
Hey.
Hey, Amanda.
Amanda is here.
How are you?
Erickson is here.
Tanner and Stavon are here by remote last, but certainly not least, each and every one
of you very important people out there are here.
Come on.
Let's get right into it.
Yes.
Let's get right to it.
Come on, Park.
Just go ahead, man.
Want me to hit play?
Yeah, just play it.
All right.
Let's do it.
Yeah, we ain't got time to play.
We here.
Let's get to it.
We got shit to talk about.
We got shit to do today.
New 38 smash.
38 smash.
38 smash.
Hey, y'all.
Hey, day I wake, I got new hate.
These niggas ride dicks so much.
They got a due date.
Rap is too fake.
Front, and they have to move weight.
We joined the gang at 30-something.
That was too late.
That's 38.
Give a fuck what a rap dude make.
They had Wagyu on their plates.
We had Q-Stakes.
Niggas only care about views and how they shoes lace.
You had a baby by a bum, bitch.
That's a fool's baby.
So, Jim, I don't see two white men jumping smash
and you falling down the escalator in the airport.
Brand new 38 smash.
Brand new smash.
This is his Jadakiss Jim Jones diss record.
He shot a video.
It's out now.
Turn it up.
I don't see smash them have these kind of issues
because he moves all the time.
Hey, y'all.
I came to talk to these kids on some drums.
I'm a little bit of a rocker.
I'm just saying, if this shit was fire, we wouldn't even be thinking about that right
away.
I agree with everything you just said.
I just-
Well, yeah, that's where the critique comes in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't like the beat.
I don't like the tempo, but I also just, this is my first time hearing it, and I'm underwhelmed.
I'll just say that.
Before we even get to that, though, because 38 Special performed at the 7 o'clock stage
at Summer Jam.
Yeah.
And he tried to use that moment to go on there and freestyle this to diss, you
know, them.
The problem with that is, when you're on the 7 o'clock stage-
Ain't nobody in that bitch.
Nobody's there yet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, it kind of-
Shit, we weren't even in there.
Quirk.
Like, you tried to make a moment out of it at Summer Jam, it's New York.
They were saying, "This is special at Summer Jam," and I'm looking at the crowd like,
"Is it Summer Jam?"
That don't look like-
We'll get to that.
We're going to get to that.
We're going to cover that.
But this was the pre-show.
Right.
He was on the 7 o'clock stage at the pre-show.
And Summer Jam is on a Friday now, not a Saturday.
So, a Saturday pre-show-
Sunday.
It used to be Sunday.
Sunday.
You're right.
So, we're not mad at a Sunday pre-show, because ain't nobody at work.
Exactly.
The people that want to go to the pre-show can go to the pre-show.
On a Friday, the pre-show-
They fucked that up.
Is different.
They fucked that up.
We'll get to the Summer Jam review later, but-
Yeah, he did a lot of-
Well, just about Special real quick.
Yeah, yeah.
He did a lot of antics, even with this.
He's walking around backstage, Summer Jam, with the cameras.
I'm looking, because I think Kiss and somebody said he was in the militia, or gym.
One of them, excuse me.
But, I'm looking for-
Where y'all at, basically, is what he's saying.
And Kiss kind of responded, "Summer Jam is the safest place to be, because of course
all the security, especially if you're performing on the seven o'clock early stage.
There's nobody there."
So, you're walking around doing these antics, you're freestyling, nobody heard it, nobody
saw you.
It's a bad setup to now put this record out and it be this.
Well, I think it missed, I'm not mad at using that opportunity to make a moment.
You have to do that.
You have to be there to make the moment.
I understand that, but you don't get that opportunity to be in a fucking arena full
of people.
If I'm going to do this, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
That's right.
We can judge it in hindsight, because we don't love the record or whatever, but using
that moment to preview a diss track, even if no one's there, and making some moments
backstage is the right thing to do, unfortunately, when you're trying to fucking make a bunch
of people pay attention to your shit.
You just don't like the execution.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't like that.
Yeah.
Go ahead, we can get back to it.
I agree with what you're saying.
I agree.
There's a lot of shit that's been on show, like I've been saying from the rip, honestly.
First of all, and there's a lot of points to hit on this, so I'll try to not speak as
slow as I normally do.
First of all, anticipation was way too high.
Yeah.
People were expecting something, he was teasing something, he was leading up to it.
You shot a video, you got Fat Joe and Jadakiss lookalikes, you're at the Summer Jam, I'm
rolling with what Park say, if you bold, be bold, nigga, do it in they town, go ahead
and do it.
But, Joe, that's like when niggas be saying I'm in your hood, but I'm in your hood.
I'm in your hood at four in the morning when ain't nobody outside.
I understand.
It's the Summer Jam.
It's not the same thing.
I understand that.
It's not the same.
But he's booked to perform at Summer Jam.
Facts.
Before all this.
Pre-show or main stage, that's a big moment, especially for an underground act.
Yeah.
So he is supposed to go up there and relish in that.
I'm not mad at that.
Anticipation was too high to under-deliver, and I think the consensus is that he did under-deliver
with this one.
I agree with Park.
I didn't think about the bop, but I did think about the BPM.
If you dissing somebody, let's speed it up a little bit.
It's adrenaline.
It's the chakras.
But let me ask y'all a question.
If you dissing somebody, regardless of what the BPMs are, if the lyrics is fire, does
it really, really matter?
It does.
Yeah.
The presentation matters.
It does.
The beat is always going to matter.
Yes.
How it's received and a lot of the consumers, the beat is a large part of that.
We'll catch what you're saying at some other time.
It's important.
But that's their style.
He slowed it down.
That's my third point.
Special's already on record saying, "Jim Jones, you're not qualified to even speak in rapper
conversations."
Okay, then why are we dictating-
Dedicating.
I mean, dedicating, I'm sorry, 80%, 90% of a diss track toward Jim Jones.
For me, that seems counterproductive if you're that dismissive of who he is.
Which you said you were.
Fourth, I'm totally against dissing Chrissy.
1,000%.
1,000%.
Always.
That's where it lost me.
That's where you get to bozo land.
For me.
Like, what are you doing?
Now, from his perspective, war is war.
Nope.
I just don't think that that's wise.
I've been consistent in that.
He thinks he's dissing Jim Jones and Jadakiss and whoever.
And you dissin' Roc Nation and Bird Gang and all the people that all of these people are
affiliated with.
So that's musicians, that's venues, that's. It's too much to name.
If you down to do that. See, I think he think he just doing some rapper shit, which
is what I said on some old school, "Hey, I came in the game thinking I could rap with
everybody.
Let's rap, nigga.
I'm better than you niggas."
But that wasn't the game.
It's way bigger than that.
So if you down to do that-
If you down to do that, cool.
Dissin' Chrissy just seems like a total misstep to me.
I never loved dissin' family, especially this early in the game before we even get to real
mudslingin'.
Unless they involved, they shouldn't be involved.
This started from where a white tee or whatever the fuckin' Jim Jones initial diss was.
We don't need to go to wives.
I agree with you.
Personal opinion.
A thousand percent.
And again, if you really think you can rap and out-rap that-
Then do it.
Rap his ass under the bus.
Right.
Like, "Yo, you, you, you, that low hangin'. Eh."
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.
I'm not a fan of dissin' nobody's wife.
But especially, Chrissy, to me, I'm not a fan of dissin' nobody's wife, but some people
just are known for mindin' their business.
Some people are known for the silence.
Some people, the way they silent is so gangsta-
Yeah.
You gotta respect that.
Mm-hmm.
What are you fuckin' doin', yo?
She don't bother nobody.
Not a soul.
Like, those people I don't. Those people you don't involve in whatever side
show you doin'.
This is new era diss record, which is weird, comin' from Spesh, who's of age.
You know what I'm sayin'?
Like, going to the family and mudslingin' is not like the cloth of rapper that he usually
portrays.
We lost the plot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This started with him and Jadakiss.
Yeah.
And now we on him and Jim Jones and his wife.
Yeah, I ain't liking it.
We've left your lyrical ability now.
Right.
Now they judging your song making.
You probably blackballed from a few things.
It's probably a few events that you shouldn't attend now, for sure.
And it's like, for what?
For the fan's first impression from that diss track?
Like, it ain't even like you did this and then followed with, like,
a plan.
Like, I don't understand what 38 Special's doing.
Yes, he can rap.
Yes, I like him.
This is improper planning, improper strategy, and just this song is.
Bad execution.
This is letting the internet talk you into jumping off a bridge in a bad way.
But even if when you jump, you jumping with a parachute, that's cool.
That rap ain't the parachute.
Yeah.
That song is not.
That song is not the parachute.
You get what I'm saying?
You can't do all this to end with that.
But this song is like step five or six in bad steps that he's taking.
Yeah.
I agree.
And I wanted to say, you know what, after hearing it, well, as it was planned when I
first heard it, I'm like, all right, maybe he's doing the old jab and try to bait somebody
that you're not trying to bait.
You've been doing that, though.
Jadakiss.
Bro, I thought it was AI.
But you've been doing that.
You can't bait Jadakiss.
I thought it was AI.
Again, these niggas' legacies are established.
Etched in stone, they some of the greatest already, not to say they didn't have a glaze
off back to Honey Buns.
But these niggas ain't people that's just like waking up and trying to rap every day
to feed their families.
That era is behind us.
That era is past us now.
It's like when people talk to me about some rap shit.
Hey, cool, nigga.
Think what you think.
Whatever I did, I did it.
And whatever we think, we think.
That's not where I'm at today.
Right.
I don't understand it.
I don't.
And I did want.
I was trying to invite him up here to speak to 38 Special directly, but I ain't in the
pig, the mudslinging.
Once you do that, what do you want me to do?
I can't sit next to you.
Yeah.
I agree a thousand percent.
It went from, I can't wait to what he says.
And when you listen, it's like, ah, come on, man.
Yeah, we went from.
I thought that, and I really thought he would give Jadakiss more.
That's what I'm saying.
You had me excited about Jadakiss.
I saw Jadakiss.
And he typing, it's more coming.
Yeah, I saw Jada Instagram.
It's over.
But Jadakiss said he was just paying a tribute to his uncle that passed away.
But I saw, I'm like, oh, shit, this is about to get nasty, nigga.
And then I heard that.
I'm like, I felt like, and I'm not taking anything from Jim, because Cabo's my man.
Right.
It looked like a little bit of picking and choosing to me.
Yeah.
It was a bunch of picking and choosing.
It is.
You heard all of it.
Yeah, why would you go swinging at Jim?
Yo, dog, why the fuck are we swinging at Jim Jones?
Hey, we in rapper land now.
Hey, let's keep Jim Jones out the club.
And I don't necessarily feel like that.
I feel like Jim Jones is a much improved rapper.
He is, for sure.
I do.
But if we in MC land, hey, keep him out the club.
There he go.
Right there.
There go that nigga right there.
He's in front of you.
In the same spot.
And especially because Kiss only said two lines to me, I'm saying two lines to him.
You not him.
Right.
He can do that.
Because he came out.
In 95.
Nigga, you called him out.
He said two lines to you.
You was worth two lines to him.
He was right in 95.
And if that's your theory, Jim ain't give you what you gave him.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
If your theory is, yo, Kiss only said two lines to me, so I'm going to give him two lines.
He said Jim was disrespectful and Jada Kiss wasn't.
But to my knowledge, Jim was.
Talk about your clothes.
Yo, that's pics, man.
I don't respect that.
You talked about your clothes, my nigga.
You talking about somebody's wife.
Yes.
Dropping a nuke on the end.
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, what are we talking about?
Like, yeah.
And he said this more.
And listen, respectfully, please don't shoot at me.
I'm just chilling.
I'm just commentating, calling it.
Got to call it for your fight.
Yeah.
Now that we've heard this best diss track, don't do it again.
Don't say Jada.
Don't say Jada Kiss.
Sunkiss.
Jada Pinky.
Jada Pinky, right?
No, Jada Fire.
No, Jada Fire.
You can't say Jada Fire.
They trying to get me in trouble.
Is there more to that song?
This nigga's snitching on his self.
No.
There's more, but it's up to y'all if you want to hear it.
He set me up.
Look at that nigga.
Yo, can I hear a little bit more?
I don't speak to him no more.
Go ahead.
So you said.
I know.
That you don't speak to him no more.
I said she don't blow dick.
What?
Man, this nigga talking like a boss, but ain't giving out no jobs.
Nigga, you can't even go home and get a blow job.
Before you made cash off rap, what was your job?
Gym story faker than the one fact you're wrong.
Huh.
And yo, bro, face tight ballot.
Without that body work, that bitch would be shaped like callus.
Better replace some steaks for some late night salad.
No matter how much.
You hate, you can't take my talent.
Huh.
You're talking to a real man with skilled hands.
I took kilograms and built brands.
Got a flow that'll fill stands.
Only reason kids eatin' cause he fat joke lil' mans.
Huh.
My thing to this is.
Yeah, nah, that's enough for me, though.
For those who know.
They know 38 Special can rap.
I was A-Rab, too.
There's a lot of people who's never, not gonna say never, but this is their introduction to him.
Yeah.
This ain't do it.
This is not a good introduction.
He's much better than this.
Their introduction to him was calling out Kiss.
Hey, who are you?
How dare you call out Kiss?
We know what Kiss do.
He documented.
Yeah.
Who the fuck are you?
That's how a lot of people were looking at him.
Yeah.
And we get this.
It's like, oh, nigga, go, go.
You make better time responding to Nino.
Oh, man, what you want to do?
Honestly, like, I feel like Special's proven the point of why some niggas you just leave.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like he's proven this with that.
Whatever he did, don't direct that to what Jadakiss' real name again?
Jason.
Mr.
Yeah, he can't.
Cause the worst thing that can happen for him is for Jadakiss to call out of work.
Jadakiss ain't calling out of work.
He ain't, because them Lox niggas is disciplined.
But that's why.
Like, if the Lox was on bullshit still, like, if this was the 90s.
Oh, no, no.
But the Lox is old and disciplined and fucking protein shakes and veggies and positivity and motivation.
It's all of that shit going on.
So, cool.
Have at it.
But the responses are telling you something.
Jadakiss.
Jadakiss is commenting and saying, hey, that's a safe place that you in.
Says, I'm not rapping.
We're not rapping no more.
Fat Joe's response says what everybody is saying.
Hey, hey, I'm not rapping.
They all saying I'm not rapping.
I'm going to handle this accordingly.
And that's the bad part.
Like, how do we go from, yo, I wanted you to be on my song.
Right.
I wanted a verse from you because I admired.
I admire you and I revere you and I wanted to.
I told y'all when that conversation came up, he was never getting that verse.
No, wait, no, I agree.
Look, but I want you to enter into this gladiator space of rapping with me on my song.
Yeah.
Now we go from that to potentially, forbid, somebody could get hurt from behind us.
We went from that.
And we don't want none of that.
We don't want that.
Hopefully, hopefully not.
Forbid.
But that's what you're putting out in the world.
But that's what you put.
That's the energy that you put out.
Yeah, that's manifestation.
This is not about rapping at this point.
And all that shit stems from entitlement.
All of it.
On whose behalf?
Smash.
I don't owe you a verse.
Kiss don't owe you nothing.
So you mad he wouldn't do the verse and you start shooting at him that way.
That's entitlement.
I want to rap with you.
You're ducking me.
You won't give me the verse.
I'm trying to get you.
That's entitlement, bro.
That's the thing.
That's why I want to shoot him some bail.
Yeah, it's not entitlement.
Because I used to do that.
Yeah, you were acting entitled too, though.
If I act.
No, it wasn't entitlement.
It's not entitlement, bro.
If I ask you for a verse, I'm thinking it's all right.
Or it's an introduction.
I'm asking you for a verse.
I want to interject briefly.
There was some communication that a verse would happen at some point.
Okay.
Yeah.
And he didn't say the verse wasn't happening.
I don't owe it to him.
But the fashion in which I learned that that verse is not happening is going to activate
how I'm feeling about the matter.
It's not that I feel I'm entitled.
I asked plenty of niggas for a verse.
That's where my ASAP Rocky DeGhams tweet comes up.
Hey, he tweeted some shit or Rocky said some shit and now I am on your ass.
You wouldn't give her.
Oh, that's how y'all feel.
We on y'all niggas.
It's not entitlement.
It's killers.
But the fact that you don't get a verse and you're lashing out because you didn't get
something you wanted, that speaks to entitlement, Joe.
Kind of.
That's the definition of it.
I wouldn't look at it as the motivation behind it.
It could be.
But it could be.
It could be.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm saying you're not always right.
Yeah, it's rapper shit to me.
Rappers are entitled, though.
But in this case, is it entitlement?
I don't think it's entitlement.
I thought when I first started.
I thought it was just playfulness.
It was banter.
And as it continued, I said, oh, Spence don't have the greatest sense of humor.
I've been right about this the whole way.
Like, with every showing that we see him, it's like, all right, you're not getting that verse.
You don't have a great sense of humor.
And you sound a little serious.
Like, you want to see this nigga.
And that's where it got weird to me.
Because I was like, oh, this is fun at first.
I thought it was going to play.
I actually thought it might have been orchestrated.
Like, you know, they already had some verses played out.
They already had a plan played out.
And they were doing it together.
Then at some point, it just looked like dude was going off the reservation.
And even if it wasn't that, he should have played for that.
Yes.
Even if there wasn't a communication of a verse happening, you should have let that happen naturally.
Because I think it would have.
Yeah.
I think it would have.
I'd have even just rolled the talk for a little longer and just silenced his value.
The street's talking.
The rappers is talking.
Podcasters, bloggers is talking.
I'm getting my shit off silently.
And I'm getting my looks.
And I would have had 17 verses in the tub.
Yeah.
To just be like, this is what I do.
This is what I do.
Here's the record I wanted Jadakiss on.
He ain't on.
I'm killing it.
Bam.
Like, here's my album.
That goes back to you.
You were speaking about the Summer Jam moment.
Goes to that.
This is, when else do I get this opportunity?
So, I'm trying to make, we know what Hov did, the prodigy, at Summer Jam.
Now, that was Hov headlining.
It's a moment.
People used to use Summer Jam to get their shit off.
All right.
Now, I'm here.
It's the Summer Jam stage.
Let me do it now.
It didn't fall right.
Let me put a record out.
It didn't.
Like, it's a bunch of missteps.
And while I'm in rapper brain, let me get this off.
I don't expect anybody to get it.
That line, and since you better, man, with the stove gone, hook.
I might go backstage and give, hook, stove gone.
Whatever that line was, it's hate.
It's hate.
It's hate.
It's hate.
You niggas not going to get it.
It's hate.
Your man that you fly with, that you do shows with, that you do music with, was on that
Push It Clips album, and you've seen what it did.
That's essentially your groupmate that's not your groupmate.
You see what he's doing?
The love, man.
You see where the chess pieces are?
They're moving.
He follows that up with more Roc Nation-ish shit.
Fat Joe, Jadakiss.
By now, I imagine Stove God's phone to be off the hook.
Oh, for sure.
By now, his phone will not stop ringing with people looking for him.
You see that.
You see that, and you feel that.
I won't give y'all 30 minutes on what the inner workings of Slaughterhouse look like
when Royce Winton did that.
Fucking bad meets evil project, but it was a few niggas mad about it.
That was a great project.
It was a few niggas mad about it.
We had to try to disguise the fact, start coming up with all types of shit going on.
So, yeah, we brothers, but now you throw that in a diss song.
You start shooting that Roc Nation.
It's like, I don't know what's going on with Spesh.
He clearly looks like he's going rogue.
Joe.
But he shouldn't address Jadakiss again.
On that rogue point.
On some rapper shit.
Go ahead.
I'm going to pick your rapper brain for a second.
Go ahead, Mark.
Like, he's so talented.
Spesh, yes.
Great.
Yeah.
Nobody's denying that.
I mean, like, ridiculously talented, and I expected, I had a high bar for him for what
this was going to be.
When you get into this zone where you make some shit like he just made to go in rogue,
do you not run it past people?
Because there's no way his crew listen to that.
You can't ask me that.
I never made nothing like that.
But is that. But is that because you can't make nothing like that, or because you ran some shit by
people and it's like, go back in the studio?
I am a diss track veteran.
I am a different monster and killer.
Okay.
I was going to diss rappers that were better than me, more popular than me, and I was going
to spend every second making sure every bar meant something.
You say A-Rab did that beat?
When me and A-Rab was in the lab coming up with this, I made that nigga send me 39 beats
to find the right one.
I was going to diss Drake or whoever the fuck that was.
Like, I wrote. When I dissed Saigon, shout out to Saigon, I was at a wedding.
Oh, shit.
I was with my significant other.
We were at a wedding.
Timeline jumping.
Oh, such and such.
Oh, work?
Oh, shit.
Say less.
Do at a wedding.
Like, you got to be a psycho.
Special. Up to this point, has not shown that.
Gotcha.
In. In his penmanship and ability.
I'm not talking about ability to rap.
I'm talking about creating a diss track.
It's a different bag right here.
Yeah, it's totally different.
It is different.
It's totally different.
He was supposed to kill Jadakiss.
Or try his best.
Attempt.
Yeah.
Try his best.
Yo, they tell you in the hood all the time, you got to fight.
Win or lose, you got to fight.
Because they got to know you can fight basketball.
You got to shoot the jumper.
We don't care you got a jumper.
You have to shoot that jumper so they know you shoot that jumper.
He had to shoot it.
Two lines to Jadakiss in this.
All started with Jadakiss.
And you popping your shit like I'm him.
Park said, yo, nah, he could talk to that nigga.
He could talk to him.
And that verse that we heard was firing up.
Where it's like, if every verse is like that, then he can't talk to him.
Guess what?
The greats are the greats because of the consistency.
Because every time they pick up a pen and paper, every time they hit the booth,
no matter who's in it, no matter what the topic, no matter what the song,
no matter what the beat, they could do it.
If you can't do that, Jadakiss is not somebody you should talk to.
And I'm battle tested.
That nigga's going against prime 50 beans.
Like, yeah.
Like, yo, dawg.
Battle tested.
And more.
And it's just a nice guy now.
Like, today, in 2026, he's a nice guy.
Much easier to get the verse from this nigga than when he was fucking giving me the dub.
Smash, I'm just watching.
I'm watching.
That's my take.
Please don't diss me.
Don't diss Jadakiss again, though.
Let this go.
Yeah, you can let it go.
Let it go.
You got to let it go.
Yo, go.
Go focus on your shit.
Do your shit, man.
If you gain one fan from this, it's awesome.
Leave these people alone.
Please.
Wasn't that Jim Jones in Prime 112 when Homeboy went in there?
Yes.
Yes.
Like, dawg, we just won a steak.
Got one.
Got one.
No, come on, nigga.
Skewers.
No, that's not right.
That's why I don't like that shit.
I don't like that shit.
I was on some rap shit.
Once niggas wanted to shoot at me for the things I said,
I told other people.
I didn't go grab weapons.
Hey, these niggas are mad.
Hey, I dumped that right on some other niggas playing.
Hey, y'all want to do that?
I'm out.
But, yeah, dawg, I just want to stay.
I'm in my air.
I want to go to Prime 112.
I want to be able to walk.
I want to be able to not need 100 niggas when I'm moving around.
I want to move.
With my girl in a different city, I booked here.
I want to move.
I want to move freely.
Ja Rule at the fucking whatever concert.
That wasn't the Barclay.
You think he just want to perform?
No.
Now it's random nigga.
No.
Who are you?
When a nigga punch me in the strict blood.
Wait, wait.
Who is this nigga I'm fighting?
That's scary, bro.
Who are you?
Yeah, that's annoying.
Nigga.
That's annoying shit.
I don't know you, you little fucking punk.
Well, it's scary, too.
Yes.
But even if the person isn't out to seriously hurt you, it's still annoying.
Bro, I'm walking to the P.
I was walking to smoke.
I'm just saying.
I'm walking to P.
And the nigga.
The nigga I don't know just socks me.
That ain't have to be a punch.
I could have been a punk.
Who is you, yo?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm on point.
Why is.
What?
Nigga, are you crazy?
Now you got to go over and figure out where the fuck I'm going.
Hey, bro.
Joey's on parole.
You want to report?
No, man.
Leave him alone.
Leave him alone.
Now you trying to make it nastier.
God damn it, Spesh.
Yeah, I didn't get it.
I didn't get it.
Disappointed.
Hopefully it's over.
Yeah, it's over.
It should be over.
It's over.
You know, that more is coming.
It should be over.
It's over.
Like, it's over, yo.
You tried.
It's done.
Keep me pushing.
This is done.
I hope so.
Yeah.
I don't need no more of this.
We got more hip-hop shit to debate.
We do?
Yeah.
I still got here.
So stay in this bag.
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Smash.
Smash.
Smash.
This is my last point.
I don't want to make.
Make it dark or morbid.
But it's always politics involved in this stuff.
And rest in peace, Draco.
Draco.
Draco.
I always pronounce the E.
Drake.
D-R-A-K-E-O.
Like a Draco.
Oh, I'm slow.
You know, I can't read.
I can't read, Mark.
That's why I hired you.
I ain't hear no Drake.
Oh, it's not Draco.
Look at that.
Rest in peace, Draco.
But you at the pre-show of Summer Jam.
I've never done the pre-show, but I've been around it.
You get two tickets.
You get a couple.
You can bring a couple of your homeboys.
Whoever's on that main stage is going to get 500 tickets.
I don't care how tough you are.
You lose.
Yeah, you lose.
And that's all I'll say on that because I don't want to make this dark.
But in rap beef, even if you think it's just lyrical, there are so many things to be considered.
Who's home?
Who's away?
Who's on tour?
Who's who with who?
Who can hit a recording studio faster?
Who can?
It's just so many factors.
Whose fan club is bigger?
It ain't got to be your entourage.
It's not a fan club.
It's a fan club.
Who love this nigga, yo?
Yeah.
Who love this nigga?
Like, it'd be a lot of that.
Yo, this nigga done did shit for me.
My family, et cetera, et cetera.
And you playing with, yo, his wife, we call her sis.
You playing with sis like that?
That nigga don't got to say a word.
Right.
Niggas that love him will go and, no, we not allowing that.
How petty is the nigga you dealing with?
We going to buy the first nine rolls of your show now and throw icicles up there.
Again, we talking about shit.
We going to bang them Smurf and throw the fucking chairs up there on the stage.
That was a time.
That was a time.
I was at that.
That was a time.
That was a time.
It's niggas that don't even know the artist.
That nigga put me on the screen right after that.
I'm like, what I'm going to do after Smurf did all that?
I'm not throwing nothing.
Niggas.
I was calling Ebro.
How could you let this happen?
Change the screen.
Tell the Ebro.
What you say is?
No, I'm saying it don't got to be your entourage.
It don't even got to be nobody you know.
It'll be, yo, when I was locked up, he was looking my man out.
So I know he a stand-up dude.
And as a result, you could just, again, be walking to the bathroom.
Dog, when them Drake fans came to my house on Myrtle Avenue.
They was kids.
They didn't look like kids, though.
That's the new age kids.
They could have got something bad could have happened to them.
Once I got to them and realized, oh, y'all don't have mustaches.
Now I can't hit y'all.
Right.
But the point is, seven in the morning, I'm going to my car to go.
That was when I was on my Dunkin' Donuts floor.
I'm going to Dunkin' Donuts to get my coffee.
I'm going to get coffee.
Why are you idiots to buy my car?
Right now.
Yeah.
It's just stupid shit.
And if you ready to deal with all of that, then, hey.
Have at it, man.
Have at it, man.
I also don't like the New York division angle that is somehow going to creep its way into this.
Buffalo just got back into its bag.
He's from Rochester.
From Rochester.
Rochester.
I mean, what we going to cook?
He's from Rochester.
I like Rochester.
Yeah, me too.
I've always had fun in Rochester.
They're a little special, man.
It's just the best stuff.
And they play out there.
Yeah.
They play hard out there.
Like, that shit ain't, like, it ain't no motherfucking little layup.
Them niggas is, yeah, them niggas go.
And that's the fucked up part.
Oh, yeah.
Rochester shows cause plenty of fights between me and Corey, at least in my head.
Like, where did you book me?
Yo, where are we?
Are we here?
Now, these are good times in Rochester.
No, we had great times in Rochester.
Even the times where it was shaky.
I'm going to sleep in the car.
I wake up.
We are in the house.
The hood.
And the hood is the hoods.
Yo, stupid-ass Corey, come get you the mic in the car.
Stupid-ass Corey, come get you the mic in the car.
That's the sign to let you know you're walking through.
Hey, you know what?
You're walking through Rochester to get your pump, pump, pump, pump, pump.
And we got to make it up.
This nigga Corey is a lunatic.
Hey, he had to pay the bills, right?
Yeah.
The mic in the car.
The mic in the car.
Now, we got to make sure the battery, right?
10,000 feet away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You cutting in and out.
That shit is a mess.
Shout out to Rochester.
And shout out to the Rochester chicks.
Because that's really what we go for.
That's really what we go for.
When you want some ghetto pussy.
And we're going to talk about ghetto pussy later when we talk about Chattanooga.
Oh, yeah, on the stage, Russia.
Pretty lady.
Very pretty, but.
And she made valid points.
I don't know whose side I'm on.
But she did make valid points.
She definitely did.
What's a valid point?
She made sense.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
We'll talk about it.
No, nigga, no.
Yes, we'll talk about it.
We're going to talk about it.
I don't give a fuck what none of you niggas talk about, nigga.
I'm talking about this nigga.
Nigga, I'm boss.
Yeah.
No, nigga.
Don't call me that.
You are their boss, nigga.
Joe, nigga, don't call me that.
You say you're their boss?
Yeah.
Not your boss.
Not at all.
It's my man.
Who's your boss?
At all.
At all.
No.
I'm taking the stairs, nigga.
I'm not your boss.
Once they sign that contract, boy, everything changes.
Let's get this.
Which is the irony.
Right.
That's the irony.
I didn't get you to talk about shit.
Why you got to do that?
Let me get my shit on.
Go ahead, man.
Go ahead.
It's to bother him to get him in the mood to get out.
No, flip.
I'm not getting that nobody's word.
You got to let it out.
Yo, bro, bro, listen.
Look at me.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yo, whoa, whoa.
Ain't no honeybuns, boy.
Let it out.
I let you pass.
I'm just not getting him in the mood shit.
Now you need to let it out.
Well, you got to let it out, man.
It's not going to work.
I have nothing to let out.
I'm in a great mood.
There's nothing going on.
How could you not be?
Yeah.
So now we have Bleak versus Uncle Murder and Tony Ayo.
Yes.
I'm looking for the Bleak clip.
OK, I have the Bleak clip.
Look at that.
The Ayo was up here.
Ayo's thing has, what does he say?
Jay-Z don't help nobody.
Yeah.
Y'all been going at it.
Yo, say 401k records, nigga.
It's called Holy Damn, homie.
Drop some heat.
Niggas ain't paying your bills, cuz.
That's what it is.
Niggas can't compete.
That's why they talk like that.
You, if 50 said one year, these niggas will be in the shelter.
They shouldn't be allowed to talk about us or anybody when you literally are a dependent.
It's a long clip, but I'm going to let it go just for context.
OK.
Hey, that shit is.
That shit is insane to me, man.
Like, niggas can't even wear their jewelry without their balls.
Damn.
Show me a picture of Yaya walking around with his chain, the passport chain.
I got to see it.
But niggas ain't taking care of niggas.
You goddamn right they ain't.
We taking care of niggas.
I got to pause this just to highlight, that's an ill observation.
That's on par with me talking about that little window.
That's an ill observation to make, that somebody is not working.
They're not wearing a certain chain.
I heard that and was like, you peeped this?
Fair.
Fair.
Oh, you're fair.
Fair.
He's right.
I would have never made that observation.
You paying attention to some shit.
But anyway, I'm going to let it go.
I've seen it, yo.
I think I heard Yale say that you and Jayson.
Which is crazy.
He said you and Jayson.
You can't borrow your man's chain no more.
Is that over?
Is that on the list now?
I mean, you can.
You just can't talk shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can talk shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't talk shit if I borrow my man's chain?
I'm asking.
I'm not trying to be funny.
I'm asking, yo.
It depends on what kind of shit you're talking about.
And who you're talking to.
Yeah.
Right.
You might have to tone it down a little bit.
I think if you are saying you're a boss of all bosses and you're carrying yourself accordingly,
then you. If you got your own fly chain and I just want to borrow my man's chain for
that day, cool.
But if you don't have a chain, and I don't know what these are.
I don't know what these niggas jewelry collections look like, I'm just speaking objectively, then
it's a thing to that.
It's like dissing the niggas for flying in commercial seats, and the nigga look up, and
you're in commercial seats.
I'm not wearing nobody else's chain.
And it's a little-
That's what it's weird.
No situation world.
And neither would you, except for that when you're wearing that.
But that was that, which is mine.
That was a thing, though.
Niggas wore niggas chains.
That was a thing.
That was a thing.
In New York.
That was a thing, yo.
You were breathing like you was top-down, nigga.
Niggas were wearing niggas chains.
It was a thing.
I'm not doing this with you, my nigga.
What I'm saying is that, listen, I can't hear you.
Your man trying to help you again.
Listen, your man trying to jump in and help you, be a groupie.
Listen, let me just say this to you.
You weren't wearing niggas chains when you were talking about.
No, what I'm saying is that they wore the chains.
I'm the groupie.
I wore a nigga.
That don't make me a groupie.
Your man.
That makes you a little man.
No, it don't make you a little man either.
Yes, it do.
It does not make you a little man.
Big homie don't borrow people's chains.
Are y'all putting an age on this?
Hold on, hold on.
I'm not being funny.
I'm just saying old heads don't borrow.
Rest in peace to Maserati Fox.
One of the gangsters of the gangsters.
Rest in peace, Fox.
I love you.
Rest in peace.
He wore 50 chain.
And then he had his own.
That's not no son.
Niggas give you their chains when you become a partner.
You're not their son.
I wore a web chain all the time.
But you can tell what niggas do.
So y'all are not talking to niggas like I'm coming in here.
I'm not talking about that situation.
But that's the only correlation.
That's the chain that we're being born on.
But you're also not talking to niggas that way.
That's the part you're saying.
I would talk to a nigga that way.
You're saying something totally different.
I'm not.
People wear niggas chains sometimes when you coming up in a game.
But you said, but the scenario that you just gave was,
yo, once you become a fan.
Once you become affiliated with this, we give you a chain.
That's like a Rockefeller chain.
If Joe came up here, it would be hard pressed.
But if anybody up here had a chain.
Yeah, because you won't wear the sunglasses I bought you.
You want some pride shit.
Put the fucking shades on there.
You'll never get another pair of shades again.
Stupid nigga.
He still ain't wear it?
Yo.
No.
How you know what I wore?
He did wear it.
You did.
Tell me you wore them at Home Depot.
In D.C. though.
You had them in D.C.
It do be bright.
You know he had shades in D.C.
You know he had shades on in D.C.
And you know he had shades on in D.C.
And lookers.
And lookers.
Bitch ass nigga.
Anyway, go ahead.
Yo, that's a totally different thing.
Like if everybody got a Rockefeller chain on us, different.
Then my man having a chain and I'm wearing my man's chain outside to do whatever.
My question, is there an age limit on this?
Yes.
No, I think it's just a status thing.
And to Mark's point, yo, the big homie don't wear the little nigga chain.
I don't agree.
I see niggas put chains on big homes.
I see niggas take chains off.
Everybody ain't the big homie.
You're the big homie.
I know.
Then you can't talk like you is.
That's all I'm saying.
The big homie is a thing.
That's a rule.
That ain't, everybody ain't.
Cool.
We see big homies.
But they don't talk like you are.
What is big homie to you?
Did Tony Ayo talk like that?
Press play.
I'm playing.
I'm finishing the bleakly because we gonna fight.
Friendship is just more, was more business.
I've never seen it.
Well, him and 50 friendship is just financial.
You're both 48 going back and forth with each other.
Sounds crazy.
Yo, but I'm just saying it's like, yo, what do you want me to be?
Yo, Jay, look out for me.
It's good for content.
I drop bombs.
We just, we got a new song out right now, right?
No more produced by Kool and Dre, moving.
Mm-hmm.
I'll speed up.
Yeah, yo, record.
I don't know.
He's a dependent.
You, of course, he viewed life through, look out for me.
Mm-hmm.
I never looked at, come on, Jay raise bosses, man.
He don't raise dependents.
We all bosses, business owners.
No, I got a boss.
He got a car and a restaurant in Vegas.
Tell him, pull up and come eat.
Everything free on me.
Don't tell me to come eat.
We on back and forth.
We here.
He said they go talk to customers.
We got all that flashy as cargo, all that.
The bill is covered.
We feed people on this side, too.
Oh, God.
Nah.
It's covered.
He said, Jay-Z doesn't support men bleep the way 50 Cent looks out for him.
That was the point.
But how?
Where's his records?
Where's his businesses?
Where's his, do we even have a, wait, let me ask you a question.
He does.
Do this nigga have children?
That's right, Envy.
It's the point we can do that.
I don't wanna hear this 50 Cent shit and Jay-Z shit.
My wife right here, we just came from Paris, rockin' the Chateau, my daughter was in there,
was in the room Leonardo da Vinci built, you know what I'm saying?
My son just was at night, one reasonable doubt.
Where's these niggas kids?
And you talkin' about somebody takin' care of you.
Who are you takin' care of, man?
Like, yo, we fuckin' 50 and you still want niggas to take care of you is insane to me.
And the fans, online, think.
No, he went off.
He went off.
He went off.
He ain't throwin' that shit, dog.
That was your first time hearin' that?
Yeah.
Thoughts, Mark?
Mine too.
That nigga had a smorgasbord.
I don't care what's true or not, right now, we just talkin' about, as content and as bars,
he fuckin' killed that shit.
What?
That's what's special.
My family just left Paris.
And he's right!
That's what's special to do.
Right.
What?
Come on, bro.
Yeah, that shit was crazy.
I love that.
He's speakin' to the fact, 'cause like, any time somebody say somethin' to Yayo and Murda about,
like, money, lifestyle, he's constantly sayin', yeah, 50 got us this, 50 got us that, 50 got
us this, 50 got us in Dubai eatin' this, 50 got us, like, it's, so he's speakin' to the,
Bleak is like, I'm not sayin' Hov got us over here doin' this, Hov got me doin' this.
He put me in position so I could do it.
Whereas y'all, he's makin' it, you know, it's apples and, he's basically tellin' you, we
not on the same level.
Stop playin' with me.
Okay.
The Yayo clip is long.
I'm gonna play a portion.
I'm gonna play a portion of it, and then I'll jump to the Uncle Murda tidbit that's flyin'
around.
That's 50 seconds.
Boy, a lot of rappers, bro.
A lot of rappers came to my house and got motivated.
I had houses, houses, not a house, but I don't like to brag about money, I like to stay humble
like you guys do.
'Cause I know a lot of people don't brag.
And this is on Million Dollars Worth a Game, shout out to Gillian Wilder.
Yo, you know, my passport changed.
The 50's not around.
Why we talkin' about change?
That's all I'm sayin'.
I don't see, y'all niggas got plenty of money, y'all buy cars and watches, like rich people
do.
I'm talkin' about change.
Yo, you don't have the passport changed, niggas is watchin'.
Because what it was is, Yayo came back from the dead, Yayo got a second wind, and niggas
can't stand him.
Sometimes it could be a nigga that's around you that can't stand him.
Yayo got a second wind on his own without 50.
I went on Vlad, yo, you buggin'.
I went on Million Dollars a Game, that took me there.
I went on Shannon Shaw, I went on all these big platforms by myself and sold my personality
just like y'all do.
But niggas are going to continue to hang.
You had your one day on stage with Jay, which is cool, feel good.
It was one day on stage with Jay, it's cool.
So I know you're going to feel good about yourself, want to pump out your chest, do
you want to sell a record?
What you mean, what Jay just performed?
Yeah, what Jay just performed.
He had one day out.
You know, we do that with 50 every other week.
I'm not supposed to go out and get the money.
We on a private jet, we even smoked up, we chillin'.
Yo, you can't, listen.
Give me another meal, man.
Something else on the menu.
All right, Persian caviar.
We eat Persian caviar.
We chillin'.
I'm a homo nigga.
I've never done. It's between Queens and Nassau.
We deliver. All right, let me get to the. I'm a homo nigga, I never thought-
It's between Queens and Nassau, we deliver.
Alright, let me get to the murder clip.
Nigga, bleak verse I ever fucking liked is the one that Jay-Z wrote, nigga.
The only bleak verse I ever liked is the one that Jay-Z wrote.
I ain't never liked a bleak verse that he wrote by himself.
Fuck out, nigga. There ain't no Memphis Bleak fans like that, nigga.
Why you sound like that?
Nah, I'm just saying, back to that shit, nigga. I'm dead serious. Back to that.
I'm on a thousand.
I'm on a thousand.
We got a bank account for bank account, nigga.
And business statements for business statements, nigga.
And we can do it next week.
And let's check the transactions, you know how you can scratch it out?
So nobody wire nobody nothing, nigga.
Let's see how much money niggas really got, nigga.
And check the safe.
Cause we got the safe money too.
I got a safe in the crib.
And I just took my kids first class flights on Disney.
We was in Disney World, nigga.
I still shit with the kids, nigga.
You heard? It was me and two other homies.
And 13 kids.
And I'm with the Disney niggas.
Darts, darts, darts.
First class.
Darts, darts, darts.
That last part.
That's funny, son. I don't give a fuck.
You responded to me saying I took the family to Paris.
Right.
Disney, nigga.
I don't give a fuck.
Teacups, bitch.
Now, hold up. As a nigga with a couple kids, Disney's pricey.
Disney ain't cheap.
Disney ain't cheap.
Disney is far from cheap.
He said 13 kids.
I start doing the math.
Disney's far from cheap, dog.
I know what I looked at for four kids.
So, you might, that is a plus.
13 kids first class to Disney ain't crazy.
It's probably more expensive than the Chateau in Paris.
But it sound crazy.
It sound crazy. I'm with you.
Bush Gardens, nigga.
Hershey Park, nigga. No, I get it, though, man.
That's funny.
This nigga's stupid.
Oh, man.
Don't touch me, nigga.
I'm not down with you.
Please, nigga, come on in.
Don't touch me at all.
I get it, though.
I get it.
Don't touch me.
I'm not down with y'all niggas.
That shit ain't chump.
Y'all niggas is crazy.
I understand.
Disney is expensive.
It is.
He's not wrong.
This is funny.
You're saying the comparison to Disney and Paris.
It just don't sound like a, you know what I mean?
It's not.
That's apples to potatoes, dog.
Man.
I feel like there's different, I feel like in each category, people looked at Bleak and
said that, you know, Jay helped them, and people look at Yeo Yeo and them and said 50
helped them.
It's just, I guess, like you said, it's a lot.
I don't think that goes back to this.
That goes back.
That goes back to the whole line.
Bleak could be one hit away.
Hold up.
Bleak could be one hit away his whole career.
As long as I'm alive, he's a millionaire.
So, in that line.
So what?
If you, sir, I'm just, that's what they handle.
Okay, guys, hold up.
Now, let me, but there's nothing wrong with you bigging your mans up that put you on.
Now, that's what niggas forget.
It's a lot of, everybody want to be a boss, but niggas don't want to be whatever the fuck that line is.
I can't say it.
A worker?
No, it's a chief Indian joint.
I ain't going to say that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But what I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with being your man.
No.
There's nothing wrong with saying, yo, my man put me in this position.
If it wasn't for my man, I wouldn't be in this position.
I'll be here.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Niggas don't want to highlight that.
Niggas got a lot of ego.
Niggas don't want to wear sunglasses, for God's sake, nigga.
Niggas don't want to wear sunglasses, for God's sake.
These niggas and their egos is so, it's beyond the fucking world.
Pick and choose who to have egos with and who not to have egos with.
I just think it goes too far.
There's nothing wrong with you bigging up your man.
Yo, thank you, bro.
My man put me on.
You got to be comfortable within yourself to be able to acknowledge a nigga for putting you on.
Niggas look at it as you a little man by acknowledging your man.
You were just denying that Joe is not your boss.
No, what I'm saying is that, you know, he writes your checks.
No, I acknowledge Joe.
I'm Queens flip back.
I can acknowledge a nigga because I'm comfortable who I am, nigga.
You stripped me.
You ripped me from all this shit and put me outside in the motherfucking Central Park.
I'm going to make a shake.
But at the end of the day, I'm going to make a shake.
At the end of the day, I can acknowledge that, yo, my man, my guy made it an easier path for me
and made it more comfortable for me to get where I'm at.
You can acknowledge that.
Niggas is nuts.
So let me acknowledge your shot because you were shooting at me.
I was.
There's not been a platform that I've gotten on that I don't pick up Joe.
But.
True.
That's number one.
You can do it more, though.
Huh?
That's a fact.
You're right.
What you're saying there?
You can do it a little more.
I did hit you right in the sack.
You're right.
Number two, there's a fine line between me appreciating and showing appreciation for
somebody for assisting me and me cheerleading for them.
There's a fine line.
And so because somebody don't necessarily.
So because somebody.
What'd you say?
I said, no, you're shooting back.
No.
How would you do that?
So let me take him to school.
Go ahead.
No.
So because I don't necessarily get up at every single interview or if Bleak not necessarily
Jay-Z, Jay-Z, Jay-Z, Jay-Z, that don't mean that he not being taken care of by Jay-Z.
Everybody don't got to do that in a public approach.
I agree.
We don't know what business dealings Jay-Z has did with Bleak.
We don't know none of that shit.
So to say that Bleak don't get taken care of by Jay or vice versa, I think it's corny
for black men or older.
Men, because these niggas ain't young to be like, yo, yo, your big homie don't look out
for you.
Yo, your big homie don't look out for you.
Yo, I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because of my big homie.
No, nigga, I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I got outside and I earned it on my
fucking own.
That's what grown men do.
I want to play this.
I want to play this clip that Bleak Bleak quoted and said, this is he's proven my exact point
here.
Well, yeah, if if 50 stop fucking with niggas for a year, it'll be over.
Nigga, I will be in a trap.
What is you talking about?
That's the part.
That's the point.
He meant.
I think that line is being understood differently by the two parties.
And that's what the problem is.
I understand what he meant, though.
He said, I don't know.
I don't know what he meant.
He meant I'll be outside.
I'll get to work.
Not the trap.
I'll be.
I'll say it again.
I'll get to work.
Yeah, I'll be outside getting to it.
Not enough.
You took the trap.
It falls the hood.
No, he's saying.
No, he's saying.
If 50.
Stop doing whatever he's doing, I'll be fine because I'm going back to what I know.
I'm getting a shake and I'm in the trap.
I'm moving.
He went on to say, that's where I come from.
That's all I've done.
He said, I'll be right on one for 50.
God rule, whatever, wherever he said.
And what Bleak is saying is.
You won't have a legal means.
Right.
To earn income.
And that's how I heard it.
Like, it sounds like you said, if not for 50, I'll be back in the hood.
That's how I heard it, too.
All right.
That's why I don't really love you as an example.
And this is, you don't belong in this conversation.
You did what you did long before.
Like, it's not, it don't fit here.
No, what I'm saying.
I don't know what he's doing in D.C.
You mean me personally?
He build houses.
That's how I know what he's doing in D.C.
Well.
Houses, nigga.
So, no, what I'm saying is.
If you're saying that if I lose this particular piece of income, I would be back on.
He named a block.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which means.
Because you are.
I don't know if that means I'm outside.
Outside.
Or if I'm outside scrambling.
But when you name a block, that means you're going outside to that particular block to do whatever you got to do to survive.
That's how I took it.
I didn't take it that way.
I took it that way as well.
And when you won in one interview saying, yo, 50 got us over here and you naming countries and shit.
And then you turn right around and say, well, if 50 not here, I'm going to the block.
That's acknowledging multiple steps back.
But he said, I didn't hit the block.
He named the corner.
I got you.
I didn't think he meant it that literally.
Not me neither.
Maybe I broke.
But what you going to put a dry cleaners there?
Like, I'm not.
He's saying I'm going to be OK regardless.
That's all he's saying.
I know, but in what manner?
Right.
OK.
That's the difference of.
That's the difference in what they're talking about here.
Surviving is surviving.
We should not really set up for success.
He's saying I'm going to survive.
Cool.
I'm going to survive.
I know how to get it.
I know how to go.
I know how to eat.
I'm not going to starve.
I might not be eating that Scargo no more.
I might not be eating caviar bumps no more.
Like, the shit that you naming.
You mean a Dorney Park instead of Disney.
And that's why it feels like Bleak is saying you can't.
Then y'all can't speak to me.
And that's what he's saying.
That's what he is saying.
You don't see me around.
And we would be saying the same thing of Bleak if every time we saw Hove, we kind of saw Bleak.
Any time Hove did a show, any time Hove and B was somewhere, we saw Bleak.
We would be looking at Bleak like Bleak would be one to hit away his whole career as long as he alive and a millionaire.
For a lot of people.
For a lot of people, they're only really seeing Yale and Murder when they're with 50.
And I don't think that that's a bad thing.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Not at all.
The negative connotation comes from, all right, well, what would be happening without those people?
Murder named a bunch of businesses.
Murder said, I got this.
We got a dispensary.
We got this.
We can go business for business, band for band.
We got a safe.
We're fine.
That speaks volumes.
But the optics of it, right?
Because nobody's thinking about Yale and Murder's fucking.
And businesses in this optic shaming battle.
The negativity comes from, it comes from the way Murder and Yale talk.
Well, that's why.
That's why.
That's where it comes from.
You have to explain this to me.
Well, maybe they do.
Yale and Murder started this.
They were the first people to jump out and say, yeah, ain't helping these niggas.
These niggas ain't about nothing.
Bleak's Breakfast Club interview is a response.
Response, yes.
So for their response to be this when they initiated it, I just don't really know.
I don't really understand that part.
I don't get that part.
And say what you want.
I don't believe one word that Uncle Murder is saying about never liking the Memphis Bleaker.
I just don't believe that.
We got to burn his mind.
Fire versus and fire.
How old is Uncle Murder?
He, we in the same age group.
He said none of that bleak wrote.
He's saying like the one that that bleak wrote, which was a bleak versus sauce all over the
shit.
But it's putting sauce on.
She is the sauce off.
Yeah, it's talking shit.
It's talking shit.
It seems to be playful.
But it's funny.
Yeah, it's all in the country.
What verse did Hov write for Bleak?
He wrote coming of age.
He said that's the only verse he likes.
Yeah, he wrote the two.
Is coming of age.
Coming of age.
He wrote on Reasonable Doubt.
His verse on Reasonable Doubt.
Then he wrote the joint.
Was that volume one?
I mean, volume two.
Volume two.
Coming of age two.
Yeah.
He wrote both of those as far as I know.
Oh, coming of age two.
Yeah.
Coming of age two, yeah.
And that's it?
He's written.
That's all that we know.
What's Bleak's best verse?
It's not my business.
He got too many.
He got a lot.
He got a lot.
That's why Uncle Murda is saying, you came up in the same era.
Bleak had way too many that Hov didn't have none of them.
You was there for Is That Your Chick?
You was there for-
Do My Lady. Brown Hair.
You was there for Do My Lady.
You was there for Men Bleak Is.
Men Bleak Is.
You was there for Men Bleak Is, though.
Come on, man.
Stop.
What's that, '94 or something?
'95?
Whatever it was.
I don't know.
My years are fucked.
That's the '90s.
No, Men Bleak Is is not '04.
It's in the '90s.
Men Bleak Is ain't '94.
No, it ain't '94.
Reasonable Doubt came out in '96.
Yeah.
You was there for him.
Men Bleak got joints.
Yeah, he got joints.
That's all that matters.
We can't do that.
If Men Bleak were to do a versus against Yeo and Uncle Murda, I think he would
feel okay.
Oh, okay.
I think Bleak would win.
I think he would win.
Yeah, I think Bleak would win.
Well, Ice is going to bring up all of the G-Unit mixtapes.
He ain't got to go mixtapes.
It's just G-Unit records.
Again, if you taking G-Unit shit off, okay, it's a different conversation.
If that G-Unit shit is in there, no, it's not going to go that way.
I don't know.
It's not going to go that way.
I got Bleak winning, but I understand Ice's point.
It's not a crazy take, but I got Bleak winning, too.
Bleak is on You, Me, Him, Her.
How many songs we talking about?
Bleak is on the Mindrite remix.
He's on the whole Dynasty album.
I was about to say.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I got Bleak.
I got Bleak.
But I understand Freeze's point.
But I respect Yeo.
Bleak wins.
He ain't an easy out, but yeah.
Yeo has a catalog.
Absolutely.
I'm not all the way familiar with all Uncle Murda, so I won't speak on it, but-
We got joints, too.
Couple joints.
We got joints.
Yeo, listen, I'm out of this.
Yeah.
I'm out of this.
They having a fucking band off.
I'm going to watch.
You have a business off.
I'm going to watch.
These are all three people that-
They having the content off, man.
That's really weird.
Yeah, but it's three people that I think are extremely entertaining.
They all good at it.
They are.
Back to the spec shit.
This ain't getting personal.
These niggas is having fun.
Everybody up.
They sit there talking they shit.
Nobody's going to, "Yo, if I see that nigga, I'm going to go-"
Yeah, I think Bleak could sit on an airplane seat in front of these two and be okay.
Yeah.
There'll be some jokes somewhere, but yeah.
But that's good.
That's good.
I'm not going to say that.
Yeah, I agree.
That's what we want.
And I love the content wars and the fun shit talking, as long as I stay here.
Especially what niggas is doing to hire everybody healthy.
Everybody healthy, everybody getting money.
Awesome.
Right.
Everybody is entitled to their perspective, even when it comes to other niggas.
Hey, you think some niggas that popped was a failure, nigga?
So be it.
Go ahead.
It ain't my business.
What else?
What else in music needs our attention, doesn't need our attention?
Come on, let's get to it.
We're getting to it today.
Can y'all explain this Usher concert to me?
Okay.
Well, well, it's the Chris Brown.
I saw the concert.
I saw Homegirl on stage.
Yeah, it's the Chris Brown concert.
It's Chris Brown and Usher.
Chris Brown and friends.
Yo, why y'all doing that?
That's so disrespectful.
Why y'all doing that, Newer Couch?
I'm just telling the truth.
What if he say Usher and Chris Brown, you know the concept?
He didn't say that.
He said it's the Usher concert.
Well, he was, okay.
Usher was giving a performance on stage.
Got it.
There you go.
That's what I'm talking about.
There we go.
And I saw Homegirl, that he was, uh. Entertaining.
Mm-hmm.
Looking less than enthused.
And at some point, he walks away and does the, like. Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
Gabrielle Cheyenne is her name.
Break it down for me.
You said it.
You said it.
Yeah, but what happened after?
I didn't hear her response.
I saw the shit, and I was like. She responded a bunch of times.
I was like, she look bored as fuck.
Yeah, that's all I saw.
Yeah, she's. She's basically. Oh, you got the clip?
Okay.
Yeah.
Which clip?
It's Matt.
It's Matt.
Like I said, she's been everywhere.
Would you?
I don't think so.
I mean, it's not bothering me.
I don't feel a way towards it.
I don't feel embarrassed.
I don't feel like this is ruining me in the public eye or whatever.
No, no, no.
Whatever.
Because, you know, there's been plenty of trolls and whatever else.
Oh, well, why would you do that?
And you should be embarrassed.
It was even people harassing me while I was walking out of the stadium.
Oh, really?
While me and my family was walking out of the stadium.
People were harassing us.
Oh, well, you should have did this.
I would have did this.
Were you available to go on stage?
You'll go to TMZ one.
Yeah, that was more after the fact.
It wasn't that I was into it.
I was approached first and upgraded to VIP.
And they don't give you any instructions on who, what, when, where, or how.
They didn't tell you they were going to pull you on stage?
They told me that it was a possibility.
Hey, I'm going to pause this.
Hey, Harvey, you looking nuts.
I don't want to say nothing.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know if you lost your brush, your fucking facial cleanser.
You look, you of age, buddy.
Harvey look old as shit.
And it happened fast.
I don't know if y'all seen it.
Y'all don't care.
Anyway.
The ability of me going on stage.
But they didn't confirm that until it was closer to time for me to go on stage.
And, of course, you're getting to go up on stage.
Why would I decline that?
People are pulling the narrative that I'm in a relationship or whatever the case may be.
No one can tell me the reasoning as to why I say yes to getting.
on stage, but you also don't know who you're going on stage for or or or with.
I'm going to kind of pick up what you put down there.
You said I didn't know who I was going to be pulled up on stage with.
Why I say it, there are two people.
There's Usher and there's Chris Brown.
And that means that you were both on Chris Brown and you got Usher and you would have been more into it with Chris Brown.
Am I reading this right?
Me, Sully, I went to the concert for Chris Brown.
It's nothing against Usher or anything like that, but I'm more of a Chris Brown fan than I am of Usher.
So, of course, it would have been a different reaction with Chris Brown.
It would have been the stiffness or whatever the Internet is portraying.
So you, after what happened, happened, some of the fans.
All right, we heard it.
I mean, the black guy with the dress, I'm cool with him.
So you said you had some problems.
Do you, gentlemen?
Yeah, you remember that?
Do I remember what?
Like back in the day when we used to bust a move, they'd be stiff with you.
I mean, free as a bird.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
You know what I mean?
It's what it is, isn't it, right?
Oh, shit.
Try to bait me, too.
I'm chilling.
My memory is foggy on that one.
My memory's bad.
My memory's bad.
You still speak to her, too.
I knew that line was coming.
Cupcake, sucker for love-ass, man.
Y'all, anyway.
Do y'all think that this young lady is wrong for how she handled the situation on stage?
What would y'all have done in that situation?
Well, that's a little weird.
Not y'all.
I didn't give it all to us.
I think that's the dangers of pulling random people from the crowd.
Like, they're not going to necessarily know how to get down.
Or they might not be, yo, he was trying to kiss her.
Let's say she did have a boyfriend.
Or let's just say she didn't want to kiss him necessarily.
I don't think she's wrong in how she handled it.
I don't think she's wrong at all.
I can't say that she's wrong.
I can.
I don't think she should have went on stage.
But if I don't know, I'm going to.
That's bullshit.
She tried to.
She went up there and messed up the essential piece, part of the performance.
That's what it is, to try to.
Even if you didn't want to.
I get it.
You don't have to do it.
But there's ways to go about it.
And you could have not gone on stage.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Slow down.
Hold up, Freeze.
I want us to attempt.
I know we just old niggas up here.
Let's attempt to be a little reasonable.
I'm trying.
This lady.
Reasonable doubt, nigga.
This lady goes to a show with her people.
With what?
With her moms.
Go ahead, talk.
I'm just saying.
What the fuck are you?
I got a spider on me or something?
Yo, she was at the show with her moms.
She was at the show with her mother.
They moved them to the F.R.
And somebody else.
They were spotted and moved from their seats that they purchased to the special VIP area.
Yes.
And what you're saying, do you think they shouldn't have done that?
She should have done that.
We definitely going to the special VIP.
And we're not asking, hey, who's bringing us here?
We going to the section.
Of course.
So now, somebody say, hey, we bringing you to the stage.
It's a possibility that we going to bring you to the stage.
At this point, you know, that's why.
That's why you in the special VIP area.
So it's a trade-off.
And you do know that as a fan.
And not just that.
You know that.
You know, you've seen clips.
You know that's a part of the show.
From all, not just this tour.
He brings a girl on stage.
He do what he do.
Feeds the cherries.
You see.
I'm talking about the Chris shit.
She's a Chris fan.
So she sees what Chris does on the show.
You know, oh, we going to bring me to the stage?
Bet.
Like, you see the clips of everybody else going.
Yo, you see the clips of the other girls.
They be like, yo, oh, she didn't do right.
Well, I would have did this.
This is my time.
She was ready to go.
Let that Chattanooga snapper go.
What?
Crazy on stage if it was Chris.
All good.
That chatty snappy.
Warm and brave.
Take you down.
Exactly.
But see, all that's good to me.
Right.
But at the moment that you about to hit the stage.
And it ain't Chris on there as an usher.
Get the fuck off.
Say, I'm not going.
Go back to gym pop.
No, you're not.
Or just go up there.
Or go up there and put on before.
No, no.
I'm not saying that's what I'm saying.
Joe, what I'm saying is that's what she should do.
Exactly.
You either go up there and pretend or don't go up there.
At all.
Don't shit on my man's performance.
Don't go up there looking crazy.
Just don't do it.
That's not fair to him.
I agree.
So let me ask you a question.
You always capable for these movies, Joe.
I think this should have just been a clearer.
So what you're saying is that when Usher brings her up and he goes,
because he looked like he was trying to kiss her.
Yeah.
I mean, he was just laying there.
Part of the, I don't think.
Chris be kissing.
Come on, y'all.
Come on.
But I don't think Usher be kissing.
Usher don't be kissing him.
Chris be what?
Shit.
So my point is.
Hey, Chris tried to kiss that girl.
The internet start talking shit.
And then Chris start closing the curtains on y'all.
Watch this.
Turn the lights off.
The light's out in here.
I'm fucking this chick right now.
So if the girl wasn't in the.
In the getting fucked mood.
Yeah, mold, mind frame, whatever the case may be.
You're saying she should have faked it and kissed him or did whatever.
No, she should have.
That's not what I'm saying.
He said she should have got on the stage.
I'm saying, I'm basically, I'm assuming everything she's saying is true.
And that she said, I would have been into it.
Don't go on stage.
Forget kissing.
I'm saying even just the way she was sitting there, looking bored and stiff.
I'm, hold on, let me just listen to my thought.
I'm saying, don't go to the stage.
Don't put on a, just don't go.
I'm not saying she should have to do anything with her body.
She don't want to.
I'm saying don't fucking go.
Let somebody else go.
But my problem with your take is it's extremely ambitious, right?
The number one fear in the country for a long time was speaking in front of a crowd.
Some people can't see it.
Can't stand in front of a crowd without looking.
She could have had all of that in her mind.
Hey, I'm going to go up there and try that.
But once she got up there in front of all of those people in those lights, usher sweating
on top of you singing, can you handle it?
It's a lot.
Maybe you do have what, who knows?
It's a lot to deal with.
I agree.
She's not a performer.
Yeah.
This young lady is not an entertainer.
So when you pull from the audience, you get whatever you get from the audience.
If it's a bad question, if it's a bad audience member, then that's just what it is.
What's going to be happening is these niggas be up there with the horny eye.
Come on, let's just call it.
Let's just call it what the fuck it is.
And the level of entitlement.
Yeah, we've been to shows.
We know what happened.
You know how it goes.
But we send Savon in the audience to get audience questions.
People here that have been on tour, please speak to us so I don't sound like a maniac.
Even when we're on a rap tour or shit, we bring people up there.
Go out there and find women that will come back here, enjoy this charcuterie, and eat this apple juice that we're not going to drink.
Some women that's going to go take it back to the double tree.
I feel everything you just said.
That nigga's giving up salami on tour?
I wasn't, but Ice, Parks, Amani.
I wasn't on a live tour with y'all when y'all podcasted.
You've been on a tour before.
These niggas be fucking on tour.
That's just inaccurate.
That is crazy.
Back in the day, I mean.
Back in the day.
That is crazy, bro.
Way back in the day.
Joe, if shorty had said, I got staged right up there, I was nervous, I wouldn't have said
nothing about it.
- I agree, me too.
- I'm taking a, no, I'm not saying, if you front a million
people you freeze up right i ain't got no issue with that my point was that ain't what she said
i'm saying if i take her at a word and she said i would have been different for chris
then i'm saying if you know you would be different for chris and usher wasn't your thing then don't
go up there and make usher look bad that's all i'm saying she said i froze up cool i don't think
she made i don't she didn't make us she don't have the power to make us look i'm sorry that's
not what i mean she she didn't it wasn't the performance that he wanted if at the moment the
performance doing this to get her out of here he obviously wasn't happy wasn't it now it's viral
it may be what everyone wants at the end of the day everybody wins everyone wins everybody wins
usher got a viral moment now future concert goers know what to expect from usher said as well if you
didn't know if you weren't familiar with the cherry and all of that now you know she's viral
uh and before i have no look at brady
yo and and in a lot of her response
brady
she was talking to and she said on the tmc shit she was talking to the girls in her hometown
yeah because she said she didn't really care about what the rest of the internet and the rest of the
world was saying hey you bitches back home y'all ain't shit and y'all ain't cute or pretty she's
ain't nobody bringing you chattanooga hoes to a stage so suck my dick i'm all for the bad chick in
her town dissing the town bitches i'm not mad at that i don't think this is a usher problem usher
brown said hey i don't think the young lady wants to be on stage please escort her right
yo i was asking how old she was because i was thinking like is this that first moment
where do you realize you're too old for the young girl that's why i was asking it you know what i
mean like younger like would she choose like chris can't look that young i'm sure she didn't like
that y'all no not like that i'm not not like young i'm not saying i'm saying 20s i'm just saying this
is the first moment where the girl say something else you in parks say something else because i
caught y'all again i caught y'all again i put the gun away to save you it's a little
you two play the same dog park a lot anyway i'm sorry about this oh oh okay oh you got something
for me the african bitches right with the ass i already know where i'm at go ahead mark go ahead
no but that's also that moment sometime when i heard her say that i was just thinking like yo
there's this moment where you realize you you're not the young dude no more you ain't the sex symbol
trying to clean it up in real time i'm following this one yo that's the point like hey i'm following
this one behind y'all hey this one y'all hit this out the park go ahead i got nothing i'll say it
to you mark i think the fact that shorty was like yo if it was chris i'd have been with it i think
that's her prerogative yeah hell yeah you know what i'm saying i don't think she should be demonized
for that like how do it feel to be the lesser light cousin
what you're talking about when you go to family reunion you're like number two you're like the
my family i'm like the second famous like the cousin with no tats i don't go to family reunions
one and then number two i don't know that nigga what are you talking about and my family members
that know us both i'm sure they love us both that's peace then that's peace all right i know
that's it i just wanted to know hey man future y'all could just tell the girl who y'all bringing
them up for y'all can prevent that honestly that's all that's it it's real simple so y'all
teach for usher you with that word yeah usher's disrespectful too how so how
because usher's from the era man he know what the show he know when it's a show what's going
listen in vegas you see he did it the g the old school g way when i went to the vegas show hey
joe you mind if i take your lady spin her around all right go ahead spin around i'm here that's
that's it though you dab the nigga dab the nigga fucking cherries away with the way with
your yeah yeah no cherries then i ran from that nigga cool brooklyn that's the end of that thank
you usher for recognizing us great show you're a great showman we appreciate that then we wouldn't
catch him at the barclays i came here and told y'all yeah the nigga seen seen again came to my
side just gyrating his dick around staring staring like yo please go yo why why are we here niggas
know what you're doing when you scour that crowd yo and the lights is bright from the stage so if
niggas see something nice something fine yo and they be wearing fine shit to the show dog
that's why i'm not going there chris brown i'm sitting my girl with matt and rachel or somebody
i'm not going to that shit oh no we'll be in there do y'all let y'all girls hit the argument
way to happen no any y'all no what'd you say mark did any y'all let your ladies go to the stage mark
always take it there yeah you let your lady go to stage no oh okay but you asked these questions we
want you to answer all right i said no before i said i i didn't sit front row i didn't sit front
row with the usher show because i didn't want him going coming near the cherries i said like
april you didn't sit front row at that other show for the same reason it wasn't that other show we
went to johnny gill and them bobby brown was singing to your wife i know the fuck he was
i'm not talking about the brown in 2026 mark no way i ain't letting you do that
2026 now we was at the jonesy show we was ducking that's the one mr dalvin in 2026 yes
and 2027 and 2028 dalvin is on the list that's what i'm saying yeah fuck all right
dalvin one of the niggas you were glad he just disappeared nigga go go away right go to a dark
manor dalvin and them oh yeah and when we go to the uh mutang show my wife can't go to mf
when pictures come out of him and his wife celebrating shit i send it right to my wife
love that we love that we love when i send the pictures there every time that's why you in the
gym oh shit
i got it it's nuts i got it yeah anyway uh listen shout out to chattanooga bay uh i don't
think you did anything nah i don't think usher did anything wrong in this but super entertaining
boy the content streets have fed us this week they really have they really have fed us this
week uh anything else in music that we need to get to we ain't cover summer jam i mean if you
want to do something rock out that's blasphemous what that we ain't cover something no it's not
only two people with it ice with it parks with it
oh flip was there my bad i ain't mean to play with your name big dog summer jam is not you be
everywhere that's my fault that's my fault you back there with your jbp chain nah never never
yo split from it that's queen that's how you got in that's a mistake then period nigga i made a
mistake thank you is this the first spot the first friday they did yeah yeah i know they should never
do that again i see i took that the venue change the friday i said okay we might have got a better
doing it on friday of course but they should never do that again combined everything to one stage
and they should never hire zeus to be the primary source of income number one promoter bro probably
there was like 40 minutes of baddies content up there it was the worst shit i've ever seen in my
entire fucking life we jumping around i know but this is a terrible show so i have notes
first thing because i i get there first i go get parks and we walk in together we go through the
back whatever
get through security then there's a second set of security yeah and then there's a special security
there is yeah the back the true backstage real backstage security suit it up the red bow ties
sensei jai and all that yeah which i have a nice tie-in later but carry on so it was like
pun intended we were like oh shit this is about to be different back here now because they wasn't
playing not at all they don't give a fuck who yo yo green band you're not coming back here
i don't care artists i don't care so it was on it so it was cool um so we get up to the suite and we
like is it me well first of all i told them is it me there's no lines outside this shit was empty
dog this shit and we got there late what time did y'all get there probably 7 45 by the time we
actually got there yeah we went straight from the pod so we got there dumb i'm like wow this feels
weird for summer jam yeah we get up there so they're like oh shit i don't care i don't care
they they you know flex is djing and they do a couple days cut the lights on and i was like oh
y'all need to cut them back out yeah i'm talking don't cut the lights on no more it yeah it might
have been 40 percent really yeah and they're posting almost sold out almost sold out so we
were like oh yeah y'all y'all playing y'all are playing and um i think we caught conway yeah we
caught the end of conway uh missed rock and special all his people and then we had to sit
through an hour and a half of drill and
uh records which is natalie nunn big natalie shout out to them respect on that for doing what
they know let's go natalie hey our beef is squashed now they did it though i gotta say like
they had a zeus step and repeat in the back they had one of the baddies girls back there with the
mic what pose you hit him with i didn't hit any pose when you when you hit any pose but this is
your shit though i thought this was like this is your bag normally
was i we haven't watched like the last two seasons of one of them shows i fell off oh y'all slipping
i fell off that's true so i you know i was like this is this is all the way bad but then natalie
was like i'm gonna fuck this i'm gonna do my my big hit let's do it and then she did it and the
whole crowd was saying this i'm like i'm just at the wrong i shouldn't be here yeah they knew all
that shit they should go baddies probably had at least early on the biggest crowd popper tonight
yeah finally carisha comes out and saves the day for me
carisha was the the best performer the best rapper that i had seen up there outside of
conway because he was early
but like on the main
8 o'clock
shit
once Carisha was there
I was like oh thank god
she tore it down
she did really well
she did really well
I was wondering
what record she's performing
is she doing
you know
is she trying to stay away
from City Girls
nah she did all City Girls
nah she did all the slaps
the
she's like alright
let's get to the song
of the summer y'all
had the Goyard bags
on the stage
she dances
each grab the bag
start they throwing money
in the crowd
brought Fat Joe out
boosting his bag
brought Lola Brooke
Lola Brooke too
shout out to Lola Brooke
Lola Brooke been at the last
10 summer jams
hey
get out there
I'm not mad at her at all
but
like it was a bunch of
back and forth
they would go from
artists that we know
G Herbo whatever
to Natalie Nunn and them
and then
Carisha to
whoever the next
baddies
group was
it was like that
it was
this was Zeus production
I thought this shit
was streaming on Zeus
even on the screens
it was just Zeus
like if you took a picture
of the
Jumbotron
it was Zeus
wow
so like it was heavily
Zeus
it was a Zeus summer jam
so me and Parks
have been killing
probably on the stage
I mean
probably Zeus summer jam
on the stage
that's when I seen
Surf and Fetty
and Al Bial
backstage
I said oh
okay I understand
what's going on back there
once they came up
we went up to the stage
and this is where
back to the bow ties
this almost got me in trouble
because the next
Zeus group
is a group of young men
with bow ties
they're doing like
some ice spice
four on the floor
shit
not very
you know
I'm not entertained by that
and Rem stayed next to me
and she goes
oh my god
it's summer time
how could you be wearing
a bow tie
I'm like Rem
Rem
has anybody seen Rem
has anybody seen
has anybody ever
ever say that again
brother Parks
no
brother Parks
oh no
the funny shit
Rem is from Patterson
no
today I'm there
yeah
today we out there bro
oh shit
oh Rem
the other thing
the other thing
I noticed
y'all
they
I don't know if it's because
the show started late
or the
cause it was after 8 o'clock
and Conway was still on stage
yeah
so
they was cutting folks
sets
like
bro
funny didn't do Trap Queen
bro
Zeddy Will didn't get to do
twerking with her friends
wait why
because they cut him
he was in the crowd
performing
that's what you were talking about
when it came out
with the suit on and shit
he's going through his run
and you know
Zeddy Will got records
you know the records
I would've rioted in there
bro he's in the crowd
I'm talking about
in the 100 section
he did most of his set
in the crowd
rapping
with a spotlight on him
and he
yo
the girls jumping up on the chair
twerking
he's smacking ass
all that
then the light just went out on him
his mic went out
he like
yo
no
you lying
in the middle of him performing
pay the extra yo
they had
or somebody else said
gotta get cut short
twerking with her friends
gotta come on in New Jersey
Fetty didn't get to do
like he said
Trap Queen has to come on
in New Jersey
at least
at least two joints
yeah
he did
three of his own
he brought Surf out
he brought Albie out
he brought Albie out
brought Surf out
brought Harlock out
and um
that was
just a great moment
or DaBaby had a good set too
DaBaby had a good set
I missed his set
I was
I didn't hear
DaBaby kills every time
he's at Summer Jam
he's great performer
he does
we left after Fetty
so you're gonna have to
take it from there
yeah they left after Fetty
I had enough
then
and you don't leave shows
early like that
yeah
Mariah The Scientist went out
beautiful girl
and they
the girls in there
hung on every word
but I think she only did
like two songs
and she was right before
Max and French came out
how many songs
did you want to do
I'm just
like somebody's got
somebody has to take the show
well they might have
started telling them
yo you can only do this
well that's what I'm saying
I'm telling you
as long as she do that one
everybody's alright
I got that blue
she did
feel that
as long as that happen
we can all sing along
like karaoke
that's what it sounds like
that's what it sounds like
she was up there
looking angelic
with some shit on
yeah like
she did that
did she move her hands
this time
or did she look shell shocked
nah she just
she be on stage
looking like
thug is right there
she be on stage
I got that blue
it's like
yo thug
let this lady
perform her song
yo you stupid
but um
that's funny
so then Max and French
come out
and
I wish these two niggas
take a nap
they might have had
200 niggas on stage
when do they sleep
they don't
they don't sleep
they don't sleep
they don't
niggas slept for 15 years
shout out to Max and French
brought Remy out
she did
she did a couple joints
and um
then they bought your man out
oh
then they bought your man out
who flipped
who flipped man
no your man
what man
Phoenix
oh Sir came out
Phoenix
Sir I didn't see Sir
shout out to Sir
I see my guy come out
talk about it
Phoenix flexing
oh you talking about dude
that's not my man
that's your man
that ain't my man
that's your man
I don't fuck with that nigga at all
Street said that's your man
so I don't fuck with homeboy at all
I'm talking with Street
and I don't know him
he could be a great guy
I don't know him
he ain't an artist though
they brought him out
and was like
yo
he gonna do the song
that's even crazy to me
you lose me
that's where you lose me
they keep saying the song
yeah
and he come out
and he's performing that record
I didn't know up until that moment
this is the other dude
from Shoreline Mafia
which is a West Coast rap group
I didn't know that either
I had no clue
oh shit
cause you always see OGZ
so I'm like
wait
oh this was definitely
an A.I. song now
you don't even rap like this
like I've heard
I know records
what you wanted
this ain't you
this is an A.I. record
that caught
I don't know
and you're trying to perform
I'm familiar enough
with Shoreline Mafia
to say
I'm speaking to it
that's what I'm saying
what's Shoreline Mafia
they're a group
it's two dudes
from the West Coast
yeah
you've heard this guy
rap before
I've heard them
I played a sleeper
Hollywood
off of YG's last album
when we were doing sleepers
featuring them
that's what ended the sleeper
I don't remember
that song
no no no
they just did the hook
you stupid
that was
that was
the last sleeper
to be played
of this motherfucker
Shoreline out of here
rest in peace to sleepers
for the whole day
rest in peace sleepers
but no
but it is
but it fucked me up
cause I'm like
wait that's dude
this whole time
he could go away
oh no
so you found
you tried something else
and it worked
and now you just
doing that
and you became
like a character of it
he could go away
but it definitely
confirmed that
that's an AI record
for me
a thousand percent
did he perform it
like could you hear him
or was it just
oh nah
I was standing
I put the video
in a group chat
but I didn't watch it
yeah nah
I was like
oh nah
I gotta record this
for the group chat
he's actually recording
this shit
but overall
I mean
we were starting off
killing the show
yeah they should not
do that on Friday
it got much better
towards the second half
towards the end of the show
nothing that you said
it was packed
no I'm just saying
everybody in there
had a good time
it was packed
it was packed
I know we talked about
the light crowd
maybe that was
a Friday thing
it was
Friday in New York
you kidding
Friday after work
did people drive there
how many people
looked like they trained it
nah a lot of motherfuckers
drove there
all the parking lots
alright good
all the parking lots
was full
it was just
it was just crazy
someone got flipped
running around
doing his thing
yeah yeah yeah
shout out to
someone
I mean it was just
it was a lot man
we ran into
the Nation of Islam
you know
they said they were
fans and stuff like that
shout out to them
I saw Freeze
chopping it up with them
shout out to them
he's having a blast over there
they said they appreciate
the love we show them
well Freeze is
I knew it
they were cool
but also Mia Bell
shout out to Mia Bell
she pressed Freeze
she did
she's like yo
you know I heard y'all on the show
when y'all was on my marrow
and me being there
you was like
the girl
whoever the girl is up there
and Flip corrected y'all
but I saw Freeze
I didn't mean no disrespect
I was just
I don't know who she was
she know that
I wasn't trying to be funny
she didn't mean it that way
she didn't mean it at all
she was like
and she was fucking with Freeze
and then
this is the intro
I see it
next thing you know
I see a video with Freeze
next to her dancing
to some shit
I'm like yo
what's Freeze trying to get a job
trying to get another job man
a wreck
huh
what
no nigga
alright
and you left
you didn't
alright it was cool
how would you know
that's why I asked him
he was there
nigga Freeze was next
I watched it
on the stories
Freeze was next to her dancing
we was down in the pit
I saw it
he said was he a wreck
Freeze got hard
no Freeze didn't
shout to me about it
shout to me about it
shout to Cass
shout to Mero
shout to the whole crew
why is it
why is it funny to get hard
I've been waiting
Dick Bills all week
summer jam is crazy
word
Dick Bills going right to waste
and I cracked a joke
with the nation
I said you know
if you seen brother Freeze
in front of the niggas
they'd say
Freeze don't wear his bow tie
trying to throw niggas off
that's what it is
that's what it is
you should wear the bow tie
I'm not
when Freeze throwing his bow tie
and his gold jacket
boy
today's mask
is being spoken
and also it was good to see Surf
my first time seeing him
I've seen him a long time
you know what I'm saying
you know what I mean
give him a hug
I love Surf
man
I didn't even know
he was there yo
somebody tapped me
I turned around
I was like oh shit
it was good to see Surf
man
to see him come out
on stage
in Newark
get that love from the crowd
that was great
they gotta move that shit
back to a weekend
they have to
they have to
hey I'm still stuck
shout out to French man
French asked me
how I got in this room
and shit like that
I ain't like that
that's my man
but
how you got in here
who let you in here
but
valid
cause you don't never have
credentials to where you be at
the JVP
nah never
the JVP
he was like
yo I was right there
never never
that's not happening
he ain't made the call
never
but French said though
that Flip
we could do content
but I'm not
doing all that crazy shit
where you grab shirts
and be like nigga
French
I haven't grabbed a shirt
in about five years
nigga
I had to tell that nigga
and I know you see the content
that we
on the podcast
cut that shit out
but it be the jokes
you elevated
you did
I can't say nothing
you said what
I said you
Elevated you did I can't say that was fucking I told you that I told you that when he was so much
Oh, we're over there. Yo Queen slip won't come I say I'm not cool cuz he coming on this bullshit. That's back in it
Yeah, that's what they just thought about. I'm just saying that was it was just funny. I just found it funny, but that was awesome
Okay, he said boop-bop thread in there be oh that was our summer jam review
Man who stayed in the arena?
They can stay there, but just have it a little bit better, but they filled out met life when it was there wasn't
A different relationship they have different lives different landscape different music business a lot was different bag. Yeah, it's different politics involved
You're not gonna get the
Headliners anymore for summer jam that you could back in the day, right?
They don't give a fuck about that shit. I know y'all was speaking about summer jam
I said, uh, no, let me take that. I was talking about said he will what up
Y'all saw my Remy popping out shout to my sister Remy. Oh and I shouldn't do this at all
But I saw Remy on Angie Martinez
So I just want to play this real quick
Plug in my shit
Celebrity crushed this is cute
Skepta is the celebrity crush. Have you met him now is weird because I was just weird. So if you met him now
I got like I like it. I'm you know, it's like a lie. Oh, I'm slow down
Unsufferable right now for like the past. I don't know how long they all keep trying to like play matchmaker
It's the creepiest most gross thing ever. Are you single now? Is that what's happening? I'm single single
That's why we're trying to set you up. Yep. That would be cute
You I don't date image why I was in the same situation almost 20 years
I was at 20. Holy you even know how to date. No, it's terrible. Have you tried? No
That's all I got I just wanted to hit the round of applause
That's corny to do it but I got I mean it is how I feel I'm disturbed if she put the name on the back
No, my thank you. They're cleaning it. Yo, I've been waiting for this day, but at least three years
Yeah, I know
It's corny nigga shit and I ain't above niggas on any that call me corny. I don't get I
Could not be happier about it. It's fucked up
It is fucked up. Why do it?
It's just in the world. Yeah, stop. Don't please don't put words in my mask
I saw a nice to take some person it wasn't and make it a thing
It ain't about him being worthy or not. Love knows no bound. Yeah, so you love that's who you love
And just didn't love it and I didn't love it the matching Eagles jerseys
I didn't love it every battle this nigga up there. I got Remy my
Does it look like they was in it for two different things?
And when you coming out of a serious relationship, whatever that rebound relationship is when you go do it
I just back up a little bit because everybody should get a rebound relationship
And that's what it looked like I'm not saying that's what it was got it
I'm saying that's what it looked like like so for her to say I'm single and my friends is trying to hook me up with
Skepta
It's the head. All right, my sister. All right, man. Stop playing with my sister. We baked we baked we did the rebound shit
Yeah, I mean we back in our that's that's that's that's where we need to play it
That's where we need to play. That's none of my business. Now. I'm on some honey bun shit again, but look but
I was happy about it. I was that's all I got. I love you rim. I hope to see you at my
birthday dinner
See that's the thing - yes tricky. Mm-hmm. I want to see Graham at my birthday dinner. I wasn't sure
Take us some else fucking myself in trouble mark
And that to make this all the way serious, but have you changed your tune on there being no?
Foul play in the Noah Wells case you keep asking. I never said that she did. No, I didn't what I said was
When they when initially was reported I said we shouldn't this is when it first happened
I said I'm thinking from a parent perspective
The internet I said I didn't feel comfortable reporting on all the speculation that was happening because we didn't have enough information
I'll be irresponsible of you. Yes, I'm irresponsible and I don't want the parents to have to hear all these crazy things
That may or may not be true
He said wait
Let me finish
But you're lying
Do you think it was five playing you said no, I don't think it was fine
You did
Showing it right now. Yeah, that's not the same thing
I completely understood what he was saying
At just just because this group of kids went out this one didn't come back. They did. That's all we had at the moment
That was not enough
That is what Mark was saying. Yeah, and I said, let's keep looking. That's what he was saying
And then the very next episode you weren't here cuz you were have time did the very next episode. I get a lot of money
I know I know man Joe's good to you
Oh, I said the very next episode I said
Could you ask me the same question then I said yet now there's a lot more evidence not specifically. Oh, I asked you that before
Yes, that's why I'm this is a bizarre conversation
Then the night by the next conversation. Yeah, I know and I pointed to the parents response
I pointed to the judge mom being a judge. I said her her response seemed a little too scripted and a little losses
but you were back for this time and I
Talked about
Some other things with the cell phone to miss it didn't add up to me
But the idea that just cuz you go missing and there's some white people there to me isn't enough to say well
Let's start saying these awful things happen to the boy because we didn't know yet
But I said, let's keep digging. Mm-hmm. And once the parents said let's dig
Then I'm like, I'm all I'm all aboard with it. And I was also now we've seen the autopsy, you know
There's some questions around the autopsy. There's some there's some questions around this the throat miss
I've been reporting on this every day on night school leaked audio
The audio audio is crazy. There's so much stuff to raise flags that I'm suspicious
I still don't know the answer but I'm suspicious if I had to if I just had to put my money somewhere
I'd say something it happened that we
Something happened different than what was reported a thousand percent. I have no doubt about that now
But when when something jumps out, I just don't like the internet jumping. I think like a parent that's all which is that's all yeah
The audio sound crazy, so what happened was, you know, they called to have their boat
Toad yeah, and you know, usually when the call picks up
They didn't realize that the AI was recording them before the person came on the phone
So they were being recorded before the person actually the operator came on the phone and what you heard was is he dead?
Yeah, he's dead and he's dead. Oh Nolan. You heard that and then the lady came on the phone
He's a right shut the fuck up and it's it's disgusting. No, it's a bunch of sentences. It wasn't just one thing
Yeah, I mean, I was a little dialogue like getting eight different lines and they were saying
No, he's dead dead like yo
Confirmed it and was like yo, what are we gonna do?
I think one of the sentences I don't want to misquote anybody was yo, can we cover it up?
Here's the thing here's the thing for me though, and I talked about this the deeper thing is that I
Said eight seven eight kids actually white kids
There to keep a secret or trying to keep a secret of what happened to this black kid if you understand what I'm saying
like that shit is way deep if you look at
To it in the whole history of Mississippi that shit it just is still going on to this day
You know, usually you have a situation and somebody cracks. Yo, that's what happened. These niggas is keeping a secret
I don't know what type of shit they into over to me. My mother's a judge
We got we hire up. I'm being basically or I can't say definitely
I'm allegedly being walked through this by professionals that know where evidence goes where like, you know
I'm saying like we know what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that is
It's a bigger message that that shit is passed down to them that behavior the lack of compassion and all that shit
Usually in a situation. There's somebody that tell you like, you know, this is what happened
Oh my god, you know me the fact that all of them are silent and all of them are sticking to a story is deeper
well, when I heard that audio and and the white boy was like
Hey, we're members here. I was like, oh, yeah
Yeah, this gets deal. This is a little deeper now
Mm-hmm, because now it's it reminded me again of I said this already, uh
the Murdoch's the the Murdoch's in South Carolina when you say we're all members here that tell me everybody parents friends
Associates is high ranking into some shit
And now there's a little more to protect than whatever y'all just went out on a boat and did
Again, like Mark said we'll wait for more details rest in peace to know wells, but it all smells fishy it
Does and flip yes to your point. Were you saying, um, everybody keeping a secret somebody usually say something
Well when you being not saying they are we don't know for sure, but we some there's an assumption that they're being coached
They'll tell everybody yo, this is cool. As long as y'all all stay on board. Nobody say nothing. Yes, like it ain't just one person
Shit is like a movie to me watch your honor the TV show great show. This is literally a show
Listen, I got two more quick sad news stories to get to
And we could move on in our idiot of the day. We have Kamal
Padlowski Kamal Padlowski is the white man who got into an argument with
somebody on the boat dock oh shit pushes man pushed him he fell hit his head so
he was unconscious and then Kamal Padlowski dragged his fucking
unconscious body into the water and add insult to injury kicked his other
sneaker into the water and just walked off watching air bubbles come up he's
been convicted of second-degree murder in the homicide of Melvin Montero
Jimenez so yeah I just want to say that he said I think I killed my but he was
drunk I think I killed my best friend they were friends they were friends he
punched him knocked him out fell on a dock he dragged him and threw him in the
water shit is on video it's a sense it's sick ain't that much drunk in the world
word I should have sober you up quick yeah how drunk you were right lastly we
have
and he only got second degree yeah well you didn't intend yeah I dragged him in
the water and threw me and left the drunk part might have something to do
with that I don't know I'm just trying to guess cuz you right that seems that
seems burglary yeah one yeah yeah lastly I didn't get the names on this one and
I'll try to find it as y'all talk but the the young white woman who did the
Netflix friend going around who said hey I'm about to do a documentary about my soon-to-be
ex-husband who I recently found out is a Sarah Duffy Oh Sarah Duffy rest in peace
to Sarah Duffy she did that on the Netflix shit and the husband mm-hmm came
over there in a murder-suicide and now they both not here yeah my god yes
extremely morbid and they had a kid I think two kids but I want to check on
the rest in peace to death that's a one that started the trend of that no no no
she participated in the stress she didn't start the trip so she sat down in
the chair said let me tell you about my ex-husband who I just found out is a
pedophile what I want to ask you how do I say this to y'all he was a basketball
coach and he was of a woman's girls basketball team and was head of
relations with one of the players allegedly or maybe not allegedly I'm
certainly not victim blaming here because that's sick
yeah that is absolutely sick I do want to implore people to think about the real
life ramifications that participating in some of these trends can have I'm seeing
far too many stories about people participate in a trend and then
somebody's spinning and murdering everybody or not not not just the trend
part just the exposing part yeah like because you use a trend to expose so it's
you put in you don't know how people gonna react to being exposed yeah that
shit is dangerous it is very dangerous it's dangerous that's all that's all I'll
say yeah well speaking of exposing see this WNBA shit no oh man what'd you do
I went for four prospects with WM oh I'm sorry but um so player yeah let me get a
name right I want to say the name I got it up with the WNBA they be riding so Chicago Sky her name is Dejanay Carrington she from Chicago they be riding on us yeah they deep so Chicago Sky her name is Dejanay Carrington
she put a post up and says his motherfuckers want to be funny today I'm
gonna be hilarious anytime a girl writes that you're done you're done it's all
the beans are spilled nah nigga it's on fire yeah they're not clear yeah when
they're not trying to be hilarious dog no when you hear that run run she says
yes Nalissa which is
her ex-girlfriend aces forward Nalissa Smith few of them on that aces cheated
on me with Deja Kelly and Aliyah Nye plus plus plus many more yeah I did the
same thing the exact same there's a couple hitters on them too boy boy boy
them rookies and yes back to outing and how do y'all feel about outing
outing I hate outing it's disgusting nope nope nope no outing no I mean reading it
like when you see it I ain't a fan of none of that shit you too mature of a
podcast though no you don't like reading a good story now now all of a sudden he
likes it
you wouldn't even know who that was if it wasn't for the outing yeah I don't like the outing part
I was just thinking, I think it's classy, classless.
I think it's tacky.
And it's harmful, too.
Yeah, but people, they hurt.
They trying to harm.
So she exposed her girlfriend, basically.
Her ex.
Ex-girlfriend.
Okay.
And said she was running through them out there.
Okay.
Ex got good taste.
I'm about to say, I just think sometimes it has the reverse effect.
Like, you can get your ex hot out here.
Super hot.
Yeah, and some people that don't give a fuck, you got cheated on.
But the ex sounded like it's some, you know what I mean?
That's horrible.
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
It's absolutely horrible.
And during All-Star weekend.
Yeah.
During All-Star weekend, this comes out.
Come on.
What a distraction.
Yeah, right?
What a distraction.
How could you expect her to be your best?
Do we want to, where are we at on time here?
Two, 15.
We're at two hours and 15 minutes.
I ain't heard a peep about LeBron.
That's a good point.
I'll push the mic away, and Ice and Mark can do it.
Look, Mark has this thing now where every pod, he's going to come in here.
And tell us how great the Sixers are.
That fucking Sixers ball is still sitting there.
Yeah, it's all right.
Of course it is.
It's the Sixers.
Why wouldn't it be?
We're America's team.
Well, it should be.
All Knicks are at the ring makers right now.
We in the diamond district designing the ring.
So, I mean, have your ball.
Go ahead.
What do you got to say?
The Sixers are America's team now.
Tell them.
Wait.
They just announced.
They just announced.
Listen, listen.
First of all, we've always been America's team.
South America.
Oh, my God, yo.
Look what we had to listen to.
The Sixers.
Have always been America's team.
We had the 250th anniversary of America, my nigga.
America was started when?
1776.
We had to fill it up with the 76ers.
Huh?
And who did we get on the 250th anniversary?
LeBron James.
Mark ain't even said the word America in 250.
That's a fact.
Who y'all get?
George Washington.
It's the old last.
They just announced that the Sixers got 34 nationally televised games.
What?
46.
I thought it was 34.
It's 46?
I read 46.
I thought it was 37, but we got-
Don't matter.
We don't have a lot.
A hell of a lot.
A hell of a lot.
But the point is, it's the maximum you can get under the contract, under the current
TV contract, which means that they are all in on the Sixers being a team that you got
to watch.
That's a big deal.
Must see TV, baby.
And we ain't going to disappoint.
I'm just telling you right now, we ain't going to disappoint.
So give the poll.
I mean, there was a-
Hey.
There was a-
Pause.
Oh, shit.
Whoa.
I paid a fine.
I'm paying extra on that one.
I told you he'd eat the honey bun.
You're right.
You're right, Flip.
Hey, child.
Give the poll.
Oh.
They ranked.
Oh, yes.
Bleach Report and other outlets ranked the best rosters in the NBA from number 30 to
number one.
I can't believe we have to-
And I want to congratulate the New York Knicks on having the third-
On winning the championship.
Last year.
We're talking about this year now.
That was two months ago.
The season's over.
That was it.
Another season hasn't started.
Awesome.
Off-season.
We ain't got our rings yet.
That's cool.
Yo, listen.
Check this out.
Y'all was so surprised y'all didn't take them for a while.
Freeze.
You and Mark keep fucking fuming this toward me.
Pause.
Right?
But I don't have a beef with y'all.
I used to be there.
You get excited about off-season moves when you're trying to build a contender in a championship
team.
That ain't where we at.
I don't know why Sixer fans keep looking at the Knicks.
Y'all should be looking at the Celtics.
We always look at the Celtics.
We look past the Celtics.
I keep hearing y'all bring up the Knicks.
Don't bring up the Knicks.
Don't bring up niggas with jewelry.
Because the Celtics got jewelry.
They can't bring up the Celtics.
Don't bring up nobody with jewelry.
Celtics got jewelry, but-
They can't bring up the Celtics.
But look, the point-
But they got a reason to do that.
They can't bring up the Pistons.
Of course.
That's our long-
That's our long-time rival.
Who can the Sixers bring up?
I'll tell you what we can do.
Nigga Mark gonna come in here at a workday talking about, oh, we got Dean Wade.
I know.
I said KCP.
I said KCP.
KCP.
Don't even ask KCP.
No, he was Dean Wade last week saying that this nigga was just the neutralizer.
I didn't say he was the neutralizer.
We got Anthony Simmons.
It's a lot.
What I'm saying was, you asked me what power-
The Sixers have the best starting five in the league according to a lot of experts.
No, they don't.
Let me finish the sentence.
No, they don't.
According to a lot of experts, they do.
I agree with the experts, too.
And I agree with that.
That's why they had a six-day hanging on two weeks ago.
They know.
What'd you say?
That's how good we are.
We got him to put back on the Sixers jersey.
He hasn't done that yet.
He did.
You don't believe that.
What?
That we had the best five?
And that's what it means.
That's where this nigga just-
I think the Sixers have an elite starting five.
Magic and Six.
Word.
Magic and Six.
Don't say the Knicks.
Atlanta and Six, maybe.
I think so, too.
Itch told me earlier he doesn't think the Sixers will win 50 games.
He said they're in the high 40s.
I think that's crazy.
Your number wasn't far off.
You said 53.
53 to 55, I think, is reasonable.
I think that's a mature-
Because I'm accounting for injuries, chemistry issues, all those things.
Do not account for injuries.
Oh, I am?
Because if you start accounting for injuries, MB going to play 40 games,
and that's going to leave LeBron and Dean Wade.
That's y'all five.
How many-
Nah, because Anthony Davis is on the way, too.
Oh, well, that changes.
And they got Huck 40 from the Knicks.
I like Huck 40 as a third.
string center
Joe
a third
string center
I said yo
who y'all bigs
this Nick said
Boma
I almost jumped
off the balcony
so that's not
what I said
but
the Sixers
no what I said was
that's our backup
what I said is
every prediction
I have for the Sixers
is based on them
being healthy
and playing 50
healthy for me
that's why
it don't matter
what he said
oh that's why
it don't matter
but the Sixers
just to be clear
the Sixers won last year
with 45 games
with Paul George
missing a ton of games
for injury
and that suspension
Paul George
our best player
and Embiid
and Embiid
missing all them games
you just talked about
so if we won 45 last year
without Embiid
and then you add
JB and LeBron
exactly
JB and LeBron
and a deeper bench
and shooting
Anthony Simons
is a shooter
KCP is a 3 and D guy
yeah I know he is
I'm just saying
we added talent
I think we're more than
three games better
than we were last year
listen trust the experts
that's why they're the experts
exactly
and trust the process
trust the process
53 to 55 games
we're going to finish
top three seed in the East
and I think we do
I think we
and I think we kill
in the playoffs
a top who?
a top three seed
gotcha
first round exit
you don't believe that
I do believe that
you think the Sixers
will have to be
a first round exit
you going to bet on that?
Mark
do it yes or no?
yes
okay how much you want to bet
right now the Sixers
will be a first round exit
whatever you want to bet
5,000
look at him
5,000
5,000
is that fair?
now take it back
that's what you don't
think of talking shit
back it down
back it down
no I want to bet
on my team
yeah
mute your tight shirt up
boy
yeah you better look
up to the sky
mute up
I want to bet
on my team
do you have the Sixers
beating the Knicks
next season?
we can bet
5 to 10 grand
on that immediately
beating them what?
right this second
beating them what?
beating them in what?
I'm saying
I'm sorry Michael
no
you're talking about
regular season or playoffs
I'm asking you
you're talking about
no because last time
we bet on who had a better
regular season record
we can do that too
regular season record
and playoffs
we can bet both
10-10
I wouldn't bet that
because I'm not predicting that
I just said we're going to
have a top three seed
in the playoffs then
why when the playoffs
can we talk?
5 and 10
15 and 20
anything you want to do
please don't run
don't call out
don't go to Martha's Vineyard
don't go to your other
content house
don't go to none of that
have I ever ducked a bet
from you?
no you pay
not even talking about paying
I'm talking about even
making the bet
I bet on sixes every year
against all odds
we ain't won 50 years
I still bet on them
Mark people that are
brilliant in most areas
got to be stupid in some
you're just making my point
my point is I ain't ducking
no you're not ducking
then that's all we got to say
pay it up
pay it up
chase to chase my boy
send that shit right through
we'll see
y'all better not play the magic
in round one
I'm telling you
no I'm not
he going to pay me
they could get out
the first round
he going to pay me
I ain't saying
I got to see MB be healthy
I ain't saying that
we could win the first round
without MB being healthy
I think they got
a bunch of players
that do the same thing
they all guards
and that's what I told them
I don't think
the Wizards of Well
could have struck that team
we not done yet
we not done
y'all don't want money
y'all got three
y'all don't have
what do you mean
you're not done
just watch
just watch
watch what
you get KCP
and that is your team
there's no other maneuver
and you're done
buy salary cap
you're finished
y'all got three
max players bro
just watch
KCP wasn't supposed to fit
when you get
when you get LeBron James
and a team
that is supposed to be
a winning team
you could go get a whole bunch
you could go get a whole bunch
of 40 year olds
that want to play
with their man
but you get people off waivers
you can get size off waivers
you can get 3 and D off waivers
mid-season you can get people
off waivers
that's what I'm trying to tell you
just don't be surprised
so what's going to happen
when LeBron go to
Jalen Brown locker
and say yo
what's that shit you were saying
about my kid again
nothing
so not chemistry issues
whatever issues
and Philly should know
about chemistry issues
I keep letting that
Eagles story
that's been confirmed
fly by
but we called it
a few years ago
I told you
it's been confirmed
I think it was
Chris Broussard
and you told me too
I don't know nothing
about A.J. Brown
and Hassan
whatever issues
they got
that's been resolved
before LeBron got here
that's all I'm going to say
that's all I'm going to say
that's what took so long
to get this shit done
we got to make sure
we straight up
but what I did think
was interesting is
LeBron's not going to be
living in Philly
you heard that he's
going to be commuting
from New York
well you've seen
the Philly houses
I don't give a fuck
where that nigga live at
have you seen real
with his tip off paws
why was that a shock
I didn't say it was a shock
I thought it was interesting
you all imagine LeBron
in a row house
that's all we got
all we got is bandos
LeBron
no everybody
move to South Jersey
they get some big shit
or the main line
he'll be in New York
he's going to be
helicoptering in
every day they said
which I think is dope
I think that's fly
you know what I mean
but when I think about
the helicopter fees
and all that shit
for a four million dollar
he ain't going to make
no money
he wanted to be a Nick
so bad
you can tell he wanted
to be a Nick
LeBron ain't going to be
making money in New York
that's why I enjoy
that's why I enjoy
this position
y'all in
pause about being excited
about your off season moves
I used to be there
right
as a Nick fan today
it feels good to know
that Giannis was begging
to come to the Knicks
begging
was he
yeah
it was his first choice
begging
waiting
y'all ain't want to break up
the chemistry
waiting
well Cat showed out
and then we won the chip
they even put the report out
while the playoffs was going
saying hey the Bucks
are winning the game
we're still waiting
to see if the Knicks choke
to see if
something happens
so it feels good knowing
Giannis wanted to be a Nick
Rich Paul said
hey if the Knicks
didn't win a chip
LeBron James would be a Nick
for sure
that'd be the only team
on the list
it feels
it's unfamiliar
but it feels good
for the Knicks to say
hey big dog
we good
we not star chasing no more
I think that's dope
we good
and to do that
coming off of a championship
yo I'm talking
championship talk
there's nothing for you
to say in this
I think that's super fun
I'm talking about
when your team
wins a championship
in your lifetime
Dr. J ain't there
we won one in my lifetime
Dr. J ain't there
we won one in my lifetime
Moses Malone ain't there
Theo Ratliff
who else y'all had
Theo Ratliff
yeah Eric Snow
ain't walking through
that door buddy
it's over
I know I'm just
naming niggas now
I know I'm just
naming niggas
the Sixers
anywho
what else is important
unimportant
needs our attention
don't need our attention
I want to run something
by y'all right
so there's been a
in the educational
educated Twitter
educated black Twitter
there's been
y'all know what I'm talking about
that's not a diss
I'm not talking about
the story you think
I'm talking about
there's been an intense
debate about this
Talladega dress code
have y'all seen this
no
this school
is basically saying
all the students
have to go
I know you saw it
all the students
can't wear do-rags
and shit right
no do-rags
no bonnets
he don't see nothing
he sees everything
he's on threads
no do-rags
no bonnets
and no flip flops
I think
to school
to school
and there's like
bonnets
flip flops
do-rags
do-rags
yeah
and this is kind of
a thing at HBCUs
a lot of times
Morgan State had one
before in a business school
other people have it
where they had to wear
you had to literally
wear suits to class
is this school HBCU
yeah
so
and the idea
I'm torn about it
you know what I mean
because as an educator
I'm like yo
I don't think you need
I don't need my students
dressed up to go to school
I don't think you need that
but I also feel like
going to
there is value
to it
to get
preparing people
for a world
and I feel like
sometimes every time
we tell black kids
to dress up
there's a bunch of
people who got good jobs
and good money
telling people
that it's a bad idea
and that we're just doing it
to please white people
you know what I mean
and some people are
and I hear that
but it's not always true
and so I
I struggle
I struggle
like black folk
have dignity
and professionalism
without white people
you know what I mean
but I also don't want
to worship a dress code
and believe that
you can dress your way
out of poverty
dress your way
out of
racism
dress your way
out of all that other shit
so it's a complicated
I know y'all people say
I take both sides on it
if I had to
take a position
I would say
I'm against dress codes
in school
I am too
but I understand
I don't want to
demonize people
who do it
so I was just like
how do y'all feel
about dress codes
in school
either for the kids
or for
and this is college
oh it goes farther
actually
I'm torn
I'm torn
because
you could live
on college campuses
and have an 8 o'clock class
and you've been studying
until 2 in the morning
and the last thing
on your mind
is what the fuck
I got on
so you could throw on
some sweatpants
and a fucking whatever
and haul ass
across campus
to be there on time
so I
but you know
they gonna say
that's when you gotta
go to work
no that's not true
because when
typical person
that works
a 9 to 5
and they not up
at 2 in the morning
with a strenuous
18 credit schedule
where they busting
their ass to study
that's not always
the case
right
so I think that
what about
I see both sides
I think that
and this is
the whole thing
behind corporate
sometimes
or dress codes
and clubs
when niggas
used to say
yo when you got
hard bottoms on
you're less inclined
to get into
some physical altercation
you're less inclined
because you're
in a different mind frame
you better not
them boys slippery
that's not good
so I see both sides
I think that you are
preparing your kids
to carry themselves
in a dignified manner
I don't necessarily
know if the wave caps
and the bonnets
convey that
so I
I'm torn
I see both sides
it's tough
I'm muting up
on this
for obvious reasons
but my
I don't know
nothing about
none of this college stuff
but my question
to y'all is
do y'all believe
uniformity
leads to uniformity
do you understand
what I'm trying to say
no no no
I see I don't think
it's a uniform thing
I do
because it's not a uniform
they just saying
your answer is yes
you do believe that
and you're saying
that is a uniform thing
that is a uniform thing
that is a uniform thing
it is a uniform though
no it's not
it's not
we've got everything
we all got on
a dress code is not a uniform
a uniform is
all of these people
are wearing this
same exact thing right so the uniformity thing kind of takes away your individualism so i don't
necessarily stand in that but i do understand it's like when you go to the military the military
cuts your hair and you do all of that shit because i want y'all to operate as one i don't want you
to still hold on to who you are because now we teach you how to perform in a unit or collective
um i think that a dress code is not uniformity so i don't think it applies okay i i agree with
that i think uniforms though or dress codes still lit can limit your creativity i agree yeah you
know what i mean that's what i'm trying to say yeah and there's a kind of uniformity that comes
it's not uniform but it's it's still it's it's a certain certainly a certain kind of genre of
dress that you could wear it's a mindset that you're preparing somebody that you're conditioning
somebody i mean you're trying to tell people the real world though like like you said every time
this happens there are people that come out with great paying jobs that'll say hey i got this great
paying job without this but that's a minority that's not
you
the overwhelming majority so you can you you kind of setting them up for failure a little bit
because if you think oh all right we don't need this we could go out any kind of way and everybody
could go get a job up here making all this kind of money well no everybody can't it's gonna be a
little bit harder whereas there are companies that you'll make decent money at but they will
have a dress code yeah and you don't want to tell a kid fuck all that you could do whatever you want
to do and you're guaranteed to succeed you're kind of selling a false image there you're giving
false hope so
i don't like that idea of nah yeah everybody's seeing this but the outliers the exception to
the rule becomes the rule when people start talking i think it also i'm obviously staying
quiet for obvious reasons as well uh i think it's also weird though at a college level where
it's not this is not high school this is not some mandatory shit i'm paying y'all
yeah that's a good point y'all not gonna tell me how to dress
but y'all paying but y'all to prepare me in the club too but look y'all are paying me for to
prepare me for the next step right i'm not gonna tell you how to dress i'm not gonna tell you how to
dress right and they don't want so y'all not just giving me the education y'all giving me the tools
everything i need to succeed at the next level i think that's part of that is gonna come with the
physical appearance i agree i went to state school man we're wearing all that but that's
an interesting point parks because i think state school is different you know what i mean and and
i've taught at state or state sponsored schools and all that stuff and i would never expect a
dress code yeah but the hbcu mission is different yeah and so we say we're like family here and
we're raising you in a certain kind of way that's part of what you're doing and that's part of what
you're paying for in the same way like when you pay for like military school you're paying for a
certain you're paying somebody right yeah and i'll stay if i'm paying for public school or a regular
private school i'm not paying for somebody yelling my kid but if i if i were into the military which
i'm not i would want that you know you're saying from the parents perspective yes yes yes and the
kid i'm saying you're buying into the program when you go to hbcu and part of it is to say we're
going to love you a certain way we're going to discipline you a certain way we're going to prepare
you a certain way because yeah and some households when you go in there so you're great they'll ask
you to take your do-rag off or take your hat off so it is a rule true i understand what they're
saying if they just talk about do-rags and bonnets and no flip-flops i can see i see that's not that's
not nothing too it's more than that i looked it up more than that and to your point that you're
paying hey most private schools that you i'm talking about elementary uniforms or private
schools period but that's different because your parents are paying for it as a college student
some people's parents paid for their college obviously oftentimes they're not though no but
you to go here so i'd wear what i want talking about to the school i'm saying the same thing
the student whether it be your parent paying for whoever you're paying to go to this school but
that's very different because back to your point if as the parent i'm putting you in this school
because i want you to be in the uniform in all this shit if i'm an adult which a college student
is i am paying for this unless your parents are paying which yeah your mission point is different
strong yeah mark's mission point is strong like if you know if you go to harvard you're not only
going for a bunch of other things that harvard represents and presents for sure so if you're
walking around and you're at georgetown or if you're at howard or if you're at morgan state
and you want this school to project certain shit and you got everybody walking around with
bikini thongs on they're legal you could wear a thong i that's not necessarily the message that
we want to be sending at this institution i just love that when you said bikini thong i'm on his
head what up mark i really appreciate you bringing on this hbcu uniform
topic to the pod while you're on absolute fire out there for smoking on that pan
i love you bringing us this topic that's peace and then to your platform bringing on that shit
that's sizzling smoking this boy is good yes you are mark let's do it give it to us man
nothing about the read in this email that you got to book or whatever you were like
oh this will be a healthy
good well that's the wild thing right i saw this video come out of with jamal pastor jamal bryant
talking about that situation which i am brian and and this dude and and i um i saw the internet do
his work in like 15 minutes they had dudes uh linkedin up they had his phone number they had
the email his gmail account that was used for the university for the school dog it was upgrade
he had on yahoo before that oh shit and so i was like i said to myself gotta book him yeah i said
gotta book him
that's what he said oh there's a layup yeah it was a saturday night my wife got him in the scope
yes my wife had gone out she left me unsupervised i had like a good hour we'll get back to that yeah
i said you know what i could let's see if we can book him and i was like he ain't doing shit he
doing nothing i said when are you free he said what you doing now see i was like oh let's go
he don't that's the thing and so i i assume anybody who had the balls to to make a university
and give out degrees has some game i actually expected it to be a like a like a job like a
duel yeah yeah i thought i i liked my chances but i didn't think it would be like this like that yeah
but then when he said you know give me five minutes to get settled and i opened up and he
was sitting in front of a project or how apartment building with a with a gucci shirt on and waves
no i mean you're the university president we just talked about uniforms and shit and
he clearly didn't go what was your first thought when we cut the camera on and saw him sitting there
he's got he that's what he said i was like make sure this shit is monetized
double shake monetization on youtube when i saw that thing i was like oh this is about to go up
because mark mark i do do think mark is a diabolical shady absolutely oh yeah yeah but
there's no way that mark could have known the gold that was about to come no that's what i'm saying how
could you have known that shit was like falling from the sky when this yeah and mind you all that
he emailed me the degree he
emailed me all that shit right before we started so i'm reading it as i'm doing the interview that's
why it took me a second but like i was like you giving me this shit and then every question i
asked him like i said because i looked at the diploma and i saw two signatures on the left and
the right and they look similar i thought it was his wife so i was just like who's the vice president
i thought he would say my wife when he said it's me what nigga i didn't see that shit coming nigga
that's all you can say yeah i couldn't believe what i was watching i saw it at like eight in the
morning i watched that shit this morning
but it seemed it seemed like homeboy still while he was actively in the blender didn't know really
or didn't care that's the problem with narcissism sometimes you know what i mean he was repeating
you'd rather be in the spotlight jousting than out of it looking normal so like you don't care
in that moment and you think you're winning when you when you you know talking to him was like
talking to my teenage daughter well you know like and i don't mean that with any disrespect just
teenagers oh yeah what i mean is like when you talk to
teenagers all you gotta do is ask them one more question and that that next question always gives
you the answer you really want right now yeah that's gonna tell you exactly what you need to
know are there gonna be adults at the party yes are her parents gonna be there no who are the
adults 21 park your little ass there yeah exactly would it would the parents be there all night
well no they're gonna all you gotta do is ask one more question you get everything you need to know
if you know what to ask and everything i asked him just one more question we did a special degree for
her well how many degrees have you ever given out one then he says in my defense we've only been
open since may thank you that shit was funny bro it was amazing i was like marcus finding a low
hanging fruit right now but i'm entertained but honestly at the end of the day i think that
interview helped cheyenne bryant because if you if you get to the end of it you realize she had
nothing she had nothing to do with it she didn't she didn't ask him for a degree and like you said
and he was because when i talked to him ahead of time he made it seem like they had coordinated
together but again you should ask one more question that picture them together was when
he was an extra on love and hip-hop i believe so i mean her team came out saying like mark's right
like we don't know him so you can you can't blame her for that that's not on her no it's not yeah
so that's what i'm saying like just one more question that's the lesson the journalist out
there just ask one more question just ask the extra question oh my god bro that was a mess
but i was entertained that was a mess but i mean i identify i shouldn't be the distributor of
degrees either because it will be a lineup yeah you can give it out degrees for you more people
that would have some degrees this thing made a whole school that's crazy that is crazy before
umar wow this shit open they're giving shit out wow it's a joke wow don't disrespect umar like
umar shit is real this dude has some shit fake yeah i love the fucking
way is your mark came in here after the umar school shit they'll go i'm working to school
shut the fuck up to this day as soon as the school was i'm gonna work out
Umar invited you to come down and speak
at a school or potentially give a class
in
audio, visual, whatever. You wouldn't
do it? I would have to think about it. I'd have to talk to Ian.
You have to ask the white
man? Why you got to talk to Ian?
I run
all my affairs through Ian. I know.
The white man. I thought Ian worked for you.
He does. So you don't make that.
That's part of it. You make that final call.
You hire people that are knowledgeable.
You know the final callers?
Would I come to a class at Umar's
school or speak?
Gotta see, man. Y'all said y'all would
work there, like be the janitor. I would volunteer there.
I would volunteer. I would teach a class. I would teach
language there.
You know what's funny about these niggas? I'm trying to make a joke,
but I do believe them.
I believe them. 100%. They got good
hearts. That good heart shit is overrated, man.
Nah. I'm telling you.
Who the fuck would want that? So why don't you go to
the Jesuit school
of Indiana Southwest
and do a class?
Well, then I'm there.
As soon as they get a website, I'm there. Do it online. Do it virtual.
They ain't got a website. Send a Zoom link out.
You don't say that to anybody. They got Gmail.
That's true. Yo, he said he was
charging $75,000 for doctorates
and that he had 250 students.
You got his contacts, though?
Word. Hold on.
I think he was lying. I'm sorry to go
for me. Maybe he'll give me a discount.
Yo, but that's not a bad hustle. You do bulk?
What time?
And if I'm going too far,
you can tell me. I want like six PhDs.
What time did you stop being on?
Oh, shit.
I just want to know. That's my last question.
She came home in time to see the interview.
She got home like a. That's a good question.
Maybe like 1130, 1145.
Was she proud of you?
She was cracking up.
We usually don't watch this stuff, but she just thought it was funny.
She thought it was ridiculous and funny.
I'm surprised I didn't hear her in the background.
No, that's the best interview I've seen in a long time.
Fire. Shout out to Mark.
That shit is absolutely crazy. Who's your next Vic?
I don't know, man.
Who are you plotting?
I'm not plotting nobody, but I'm working on some other. I want to do some investigative stuff.
I want to be like the Pablo Torre of. Bullshit.
Of black culture.
Oh, I'm so glad that you got a bright future now.
Or you got Mike Rupin.
If you go talk to him. Nope. about what Topps may be up to.
Like, is LeBron signing to Topps now?
No, no, no.
LeBron is signing to the Sixers.
A player that caliber for four million a year
going to Philadelphia of all places.
He wants a championship.
I wonder if he's a top. He wants to bring a championship to a team.
Is this some Topps stuff going on, you think?
No, no, no.
He want to bring a championship to a team.
Like, you think his fanatics deal has changed any?
Yeah, we got. Or maybe LeBron. That should be your first case, you crap.
No, no, his first one's going to be Jalen Brunson.
I'm still on this Jalen Brunson thing.
That's the first one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm still trying to hunt for that ring.
Yeah, look at y'all.
Yo, you see they still got Kawhi hemmed up.
They can't even complete that trade because of Pablo Torre.
Yeah, I know.
Yo.
Shout out to Pablo.
Shout out to Pablo.
I love Pablo.
Ish don't fuck with me.
He just don't like that shit.
He just cooks Ish's grits, man.
Ish hates that shit.
What?
He burns him up.
I know what you meant, but nigga, when?
No, no, he's upset.
Ish doesn't like how he moved with the Kawhi Leonard investigation.
Oh, got it, got it.
He thinks he's basically a rap bastard.
He's a rap.
He called him a rap bastard.
Oh.
Yeah, so I get it.
I mean, I don't agree, but I get his frustration.
So you just got time.
You just want to, you know what I mean, do some new investigative work and get your shit
off?
Me?
Yeah.
Yeah, man, I want to develop some new platforms.
You know, I think we need, I think all of us need to kind of branch out, do new shows,
do new platforms, find new ways to go.
Just doing new shit.
So that's going to be my new shit.
Anybody here have any thoughts on the new Black Panther they announced?
He looks, he resembles.
What's his name?
I don't know.
The British dude, right?
Yeah.
David Johnson.
I didn't hear.
David Johnson.
David Johnson announced as the new Black Panther T'Challa's son.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I think the casting, if he can act, I haven't seen him act.
He can act.
It was a no.
He can act.
He was, I only seen one thing, but if, Long Walk.
Yeah.
But if, the casting is amazing.
He looks like he's related to him, bro.
Yeah, but they can't, they got stuff using British actors for, she got some from Wakanda.
Like, the casting, they couldn't have found a better person to resemble him.
So if they get it off, they get it off.
They said that they shot away.
He got away from, uh, Damson because they said he was bigger than the role.
Mm.
I don't necessarily agree with that, but.
That would have been an interesting choice.
It seemed like that's the choice everybody was waiting for.
Yeah, they were calling for that immediately.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were calling for Damson.
But.
I don't see why.
I don't think he was bigger than the Marvel role.
I don't think anybody's bigger than the Marvel role.
In there.
Not Black Panther.
Not Black, yeah, so.
When is Black Panther 3 supposed to be released?
2028, I think.
Oh.
Yeah, 2028.
Well, January of 2028, right?
December.
2028, all right.
Well, I'm going to see.
I support Ryan Coogler.
Yeah, that's what I'm sure.
I don't care who he had.
Like, honestly, his credit is.
I can't even think that far.
We got Dune coming up.
I ain't thinking that far to 2028 when it's Dune time.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Let's see it, bro.
What they going to do?
What they going to do when pun come?
Come knocking at the door.
And it was.
Yo, so I heard that Christopher Nolan has two brothers,
and one of them is a hitman that hasn't been seen in the public in 25 years.
Really?
What?
I know one of them is right.
I think he wrote Memento, or one of them.
He wrote something.
I cannot confirm the hitman thing, but it is something that's been floating around.
And judging by Nolan movies and Nolan's mind, it makes perfect sense to me.
It just makes perfect sense that he would have a hitman brother.
Yeah, it tracks.
That's it.
It does track.
It does track.
Anyway, speaking of hitmen, unfortunately, there's no more sad news, but everything I hear about David.
Lock him up.
I just want to.
It almost makes me not believe in due process.
Right.
Like, this shit is disgusting, man.
It's like every detail, man.
It's like, this is like the nastiest, ugliest thing I've ever seen or heard in my life, man.
Yeah, I have it written here as David is a different type of evil.
Yeah.
It's a different type of evil.
It's a different type of evil, dog.
It's sickening.
Yeah.
It's sickening to hear the facts, hear more facts.
I got thoughts on the parents.
I got that.
He went to church with them and shit like that?
Yeah, man.
We'll wait for due process.
Everybody deserves due process.
Yeah, everybody, you know, but it's just, it's just, it's just.
But they got him dead to rights.
They got him dead to rights.
They got.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All the information you could possibly have.
They got the whole route.
They got the lie.
They got when he took her cell phone and text himself.
They got the cell phone coordinates.
They got the text that say, hey, I'm pregnant.
Hey, I'm blowing you up tomorrow.
Nigga, you done.
They got, they got it all.
They got the motive.
They got how.
They got your, your Uber Eats order of chainsaws and whatever the fuck you ordered.
Swimming pool.
Yeah.
Inflatable pool.
Inflatable pool.
Chainsaw.
Dog, yo.
This would be the greatest framed job in the history of the world if he's not guilty.
I'm not saying it's not possible, but when they, when they, when the prosecutor put forward
the evidence to, to show that they had, you know, enough cause to move forward, this shit
was, I mean, I've never, I've never seen anything more overwhelming.
The tweet a week later talking about DK.
He's a sicko, yo.
Word.
Like, go sit him up.
Yeah.
The only, I'm about to say, the only question is whether he has an affirmative defense of,
you know, mental illness.
That's the only thing he might get into.
Cause, cause it's so sick that you could almost say like, no, no, same person, no same
person could do, could be this depraved.
That's about it.
It's hard to argue stuff like that when there's so much premeditation.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
But I think that's the only argument he has.
That's the only game he, I don't think it works, but I think that's the only card he
has left to play.
I agree with you though.
I don't see it.
Isn't there a high bar for insanity?
It is.
It's pretty high.
It's pretty high.
It's pretty high.
Mental illness isn't enough.
Cause like 80%.
Some people in prisons have some form of mental illness.
It has to be like severe, severe, severe.
It's tough.
I don't see it working.
I don't see it.
Get them out of here.
Yeah, man.
I say lock the parents up too, but whatever.
You say what?
I say lock the parents up too.
I don't know the parent's story.
I don't know enough to have an opinion.
They're saying that her parents were aware of their relationship.
I think that's what he's referring to.
Yeah.
And his parents were too?
Yes.
Oh wow.
And again, I don't know.
I'm just getting the details as they come out.
But if you, if you learned it, and again, I'm not, well, it sounds like I'm blaming you.
I don't want it to sound like that.
If you learn that your 11 year old daughter is dating the 18 year old artist, taking the
phone ain't it?
Facts.
Taking the phone didn't do nothing.
Sorry.
He shipped a new phone to the school.
Now you're like.
That, that didn't.
Didn't he?
Didn't he?
Didn't he?
to be more action taken in that moment for whatever reason it was not and it has to be your
mission that that was their last communication yeah i don't i don't i don't get that but that
that go on today just being a lot of things i don't know that's that new newer parenting thing
of being my kid's friend like it's a lot of people that that i don't really think it's that
no i'm saying a lot of people a lot of people don't want their kids to not like them so it's
like i want to treat you a certain way and it might have a conversation take your phone but
i'm not gonna go too crazy because i don't want you to hate me as your parent your job ain't to
your kid's friend.
Now that part I agree with.
It's a lot of that happening.
Or not just their friend.
It's a lot of that happening though, bro.
It's a lot of, you know, relaxed,
I'm not going to say discipline,
but relaxed just enforcement
because I don't want my kids to hate me.
Look, man, let's move to something serious.
Yeah, please.
We haven't talked about Mom Donnie.
God damn it.
We haven't talked about Mom Donnie in 15 minutes.
I love Mom Donnie as much as the next man.
Not more than me.
That's true, that's true.
Nobody loves Mom Donnie more than me.
He just announced, no, no, I mean it, gay.
Play.
I know.
He announced yesterday
that he's going to open five new grocery stores
that will be available for 30% below retail
for all the people out there in New York,
all the poor people in New York.
So just shout out to him.
Oh, great.
Shout out to them.
But I got beef with Kyle Kuzma.
Did you see Kyle Kuzma coming for him on Twitter?
Yes, I did.
I did.
I'm not a shut up and dribble guy.
I want all the athletes to come out and speak
and speak their mind, but don't sound stupid.
And when you look at what he wrote,
it looked like it was made with AI, man.
I don't know what Kyle Kuzma's
up to.
I don't like-
Kyle Kuzma said, for the people that don't know,
we have a mayor trying to act like a president.
Exactly.
And he's not.
He's simply doing what he's supposed to do.
It's his job.
Nobody should act like the president.
You know what?
Could be worse.
Right, right.
Like, yo, you just are responsible
for a smaller land mass in a smaller area,
but you still are kind of running it
based on the needs of your constituency.
Yeah.
He was trying to say that he was,
he said because Mondani was talking about
arresting Netanyahu when he comes to New York,
that he was saying, that's not in your place.
And Mondani said, that's not my place.
He said, I checked the law.
I'm not allowed to do that,
but we still don't want him here.
You're allowed to say that.
And all he was doing to me, Kyle Kuzma,
was chirping and responding to what
all them right-wing people were saying.
And people called him out on it.
Rosenberg called him out on it.
And he clapped back on Rosenberg,
basically told him you only get to talk
when Ebro lets you talk.
And he clapped back on some other people.
I responded to him.
Quiet.
Like a mouse pissing on Kyle.
Oh, now you in the scope, Kyle.
So.
Now we interviewing your arm, nigga.
Tread lightly, Mr. Kuzma.
Oh, now I get, I just did the math.
You said you started your new investigative series.
Oh.
You know what time time you on?
Oh yeah, I know what he on.
Big more.
I like it, I'm not mad.
You're gonna find where the body's buried.
I'm not mad.
I had a quick question for y'all.
Yeah.
This don't have nothing to do with nothing,
but the dude Ashton, Ashton Hall,
sat with Cam Newton and said that he didn't do the,
he didn't, he didn't end it up,
he didn't end up doing a partnership deal with Saratoga
because they didn't offer him equity.
The internet started killing him over it.
Just a light topic.
Where do y'all stand on, on this,
on what he should and should have done?
I mean, should and shouldn't have done.
What were they killing him over real quick?
The fact that he.
Well, the internet was killing him.
How dare you approach a company that's existed since 1874.
Got it.
And ask them for equity rather than taking the pay,
if it was good pay,
and just putting it to wherever you saw fit
or taking the money and investing in the company
if you believe in what your addition's gonna do.
I mean, you miss all the shots you don't take, man.
I mean.
I don't think he was wrong for asking for it.
Yeah.
But I wouldn't not do any deal whatsoever
because they didn't give me equity.
I don't think.
I mean, I'm not in his shoes, but.
I mean.
You already did that.
People are crazy.
You did it all.
Advertising.
You might as well get some money for it.
Yeah, and they were willing to pay him.
But, you know, some, you know.
Man's had 444 playing and just was like, you know what?
Yeah, niggas be hearing people talk about equity
and they automatically assume that
that's the first negotiation position you take.
Yeah.
You gotta build up a brand and a name
and a following and an audience
to be able to go in a room and demand equity.
I wish he did.
Oh, you could ask.
If it doesn't work out,
when he did what?
Yeah, but people, people, a lot of people.
The guy with the water,
putting the water on his face, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He built, I mean, he built.
He built up what?
He built a following, nigga.
Not a following that you could go in
and ask a company that's 200 years old
for some equity, eh?
What type of following does that look like to you?
Not that.
You need a following that can move.
What I'm saying is that he built a following.
I mean, yeah, but I mean, we all have a following.
Followers and a following are two different things.
You know that, right?
That's a Nike for equity, though.
That's my thing.
And I'm not saying you're saying that.
I'm just saying, ask.
If they say no, be cool with it.
I only got an issue with him
if he were outraged that they said no.
Nah, you do the business.
I mean, he said he didn't do a deal with them
because they wouldn't give him equity.
Which means there's a level of delusion there.
A lot of delusion.
And I think that we get led by people
like Joe Button can ask somebody for equity
because Joe's built up an audience
over the last 20 years prior to him
just jumping off the porch.
I think that if Ishan,
I started a podcast
and for us to go ask Fiji for equity,
I think that's a miscalculation.
I do, too.
But I'm just saying,
I'm not going to drag him for that.
Yeah, you can try.
If he's willing to make that miscalculation
and live with the consequences.
Oh, true.
I'm not dragging him.
I don't think you're doing that.
But if he went on Twitter and was like,
fuck Fiji,
or fuck Santoga in this case,
then I'd be like,
yo, you wild.
You have a right to ask.
I came to a podcast 10 years after it started.
And I wasn't afraid to ask for equity.
And because I got it,
you know what I mean?
A lot of people would say
that that was a crazy move.
But you got to do what you got to do.
That's peace?
Yeah.
Shut your stupid ass up, nigga.
Shut up, nigga.
I'm serious.
What I was just saying.
You said he built up a following.
He didn't build up a following.
He built up a bunch of followers.
That's not a following.
That's not,
they don't move.
That sounds like hate to me.
It's not hate.
It's not hate.
Impact from a following is different.
Like you used the Joe example.
Joe has a,
legion of,
he has a following
that I can move to this company
and they will follow me.
Yo, don't interrupt Freeze
when he's bigging me up.
I don't think that dude,
I don't think.
Fuck you, nigga.
Yeah, like.
But what I'm saying,
hold on.
I don't think that dude,
if he decided to say,
yo, fuck Saratoga,
I'm going to this water brand over here,
that everybody's going to buy that water.
Got it.
That's not,
you don't have power like that.
That's where the equity comes in.
What do you base that off of?
You have to show it.
You have to build it.
That niggas don't,
I get it.
I get what y'all saying.
It doesn't hurt to ask.
He sounds like,
that's it.
He didn't get it.
But some people are going in
and asking too.
It don't hurt to ask.
It never hurts to ask.
Worst thing a nigga say is no.
Well, it's not true.
It's nothing that's happened to.
But a lot of people,
I think,
are hearing these conversations
that the higher up businessmen
are having
and are saying like,
yo,
yo,
you just taking a deal?
We don't take deals without equity.
So now,
in their mind,
thinking even at the lower level,
I'm walking right into the big company
saying I want equity.
I agree.
Well, guess what?
No, my nigga,
that's not how it works.
And it's also not fair.
I mean, as a business owner,
I can tell you,
I've had people ask me for equity,
particularly,
or in a couple businesses.
And I'm always like,
I spent all this time building it.
I'm almost insulted at the ass.
No, I'm not almost.
I am insulted at the ass.
Which could shoot yourself in the foot
when you start talking about negotiations.
You're going and asking for equity.
Yo, get the fuck out of my office
and leave the door open.
Now, there are people who have asked me
who have worked hard enough
to deserve something.
I'm not saying everybody's in that boat.
But I've had people come in out the gate.
I'm talking about like
the first day I meet them.
Like, hey, I'll manage your coffee shop.
But I want equity.
But I want equity.
I want to own this percentage of it.
And it's like, dude,
what?
You just came here yesterday.
I'm certainly not going to kill nobody
for asking.
Ask whatever you want.
Facts.
What I will say to Ashton is
big fish, small pond,
always better than big fish, big pond.
That's all I got for you, buddy.
Thousand percent.
Big fish, small pond.
Go take rinky-dink water.
That's what,
should've did.
I would've gone with it.
Put that shit in every video.
Get them an audience
they never saw, never seen.
All of their little C-suite niggas
blowing away.
Oh, my God.
All of that shit.
For all of the followers
to freeze this point that you have.
Put this product in front of their face.
They'll be impressed in a way that
Fiji won't.
Or Saratoga won't.
Or go to Signature.
Signature's big, too.
Let me not say that.
But just anyone, anybody.
Another option.
If you really believe you are.
Make your own water.
And it ain't hard.
I know a nigga that got one.
Like, dog, niggas is making
their own waters now.
You know a nigga that made
his own water, for real?
Yeah, Alkalot Water, too.
Two people.
No, you don't.
Yes, he do.
Yo, come outside, bro.
I'm joking.
But no.
Shout him out.
You can help him.
It's not even that hard.
What I'm saying is,
if you really believe that you are
entitled to equity in a company that big,
you could just jump off the porch
and start your own shit.
All right, let me get some equity
in your company, nigga.
Hey, yo, let me get some equity
in your company.
I don't have a content company.
Nah, fuck the content.
Nah, we want a piece of that
style ish, Paul.
I want the real estate.
I don't have a rap company.
I'll take over your house.
I was trying.
Rap traps.
Nah.
Nigga, I'll come there
and take over your old shit.
Oh, yeah, hold on.
That's Pop's house you're fixing, right?
It's almost done?
I love Shaka Garn.
Yeah, you want to see my Pop's house.
You see the new pictures
of Shaka Garn?
New pictures of Shaka?
I didn't.
She did a new photo spread.
It was a new video
because she redid
through the video.
On fire, like. On colors.
I bought it, yeah.
It sounds great.
Oh, and listen.
He only watched it.
Oh, you want to play with it?
It sounds great.
Hold on.
You're missing out.
No, no, no, no.
You're not understanding.
He's not following.
He's got the hots.
She's in the Jackie Robinson
widow category
is what I'm saying.
Oh!
That's what you said.
Always been.
Yeah, but she's going
to run her mouth
to the old hoes.
Yeah, that might work.
Joe, Joe, Joe.
You fuck Shaka Garn,
now Dionne Warwick
know how big my dick is.
The point is this.
- Now I gotta fuck Gladys Knight.
I do not need Gladys Knight
No my dick's hot dog
I'm sorry I'm cool
Yo y'all are fools man
Good time today
Good vibrations man
Listen
Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast
As much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you
Keep us in your prayers
Lord knows we need to be there
Until the next time
We bid you adieu
Farewell
Adios
So long goodbye
A simple head nod will suffice
Listen remember life is a series of moments
And moments pass
So let's make this one last
As if it's all we have
Last but certainly not least
The baddies are insecure
The stagnant women want to travel
And the closed minded women want you to teach them things
Grab you a Tylenol
A Tylenol you might need
With that said
Uh
What y'all on this week man
What's happening
What's happening
What's your week plans
Work work work
Work work
You know what I'm gonna say
Oh mixing it all
Oh I'm gaming with my girl
Oh I'm going to speak at a
Mom Donnie's panel
Oh
What are you doing there
Hot shot
I know
Hot shot
What you doing
What you doing
Sitting in the house
Watching docs
Sitting on the dock
Hey
How you doing
Actually I'm
Yo this is what we doing now
On some straight loser shit
We just starting every show that exists
In the house with my girl
We starting shows
Watching four episodes
Leave it
Go to the next one
So why don't you go watch
I'm on episode eight
We might
We might
I just learned that she never saw Billions
So now
So now
We gotta go back
I was late to Billions
We gotta go back
We doing old show night now
So that's it
That's fine
But I don't have nothing planned man
She out of town this weekend
She gotta go
College
She gotta go load her daughter up into college
Shout out to
Naeem
Congratulations
She loading him into college now
But Friday
Cause this weekend
In Mississippi
She got low on the cost
So she gotta take a flight out there
She gonna go to Mississippi for the weekend
Yeah
I know
She come right back
She can't
Can't fool her
She'll be right back
But I do get a little Friday night
To just unwind
It's nice ain't it
Unwind
Yeah
Unwind man
That's all I got
That's all I got man
Yo I can't wait for this summer to be over
I ain't gonna lie
I'm one of them niggas
I can't wait
For September 22nd
To get here
Fall
Cloud
Gloom
Doom
Darkness
Yes
First week of September
Send these kids back to school
Oh my god
Get they little asses
Out of here
I can't wait
Enough of these kids
That's all I got man
Y'all be good out there
Hold it down
Until the next time
Ego
No Joe Buds
I've never heard of Joe Buds
I'm from the web and nitty era
It's the network
*gunshot*
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast opens with a comedic discussion about jail culture, specifically the "honey bun" myth, where eating a random honey bun left on your bed signals sexual consent, leading to crude jokes among the hosts.
The hosts transition to a major hip-hop topic
They debate whether 38 Special’s actions stem from entitlement, noting his frustration over a failed Jadakiss collaboration and his risky references to Roc Nation affiliates, which could have serious consequences.
The discussion shifts to a beef between Memphis Bleek and Yayo/Uncle Murda, centering on loyalty and financial dependence. Bleek criticizes Yayo and Murda for relying on 50 Cent, while they defend their success; the hosts analyze the nuances of acknowledging a mentor’s support.
The episode includes lighter segments
Summary:
The episode of the Joe Budden Podcast blends humor with serious hip-hop commentary. It begins with the hosts joking about jail rules, particularly the "honey bun" myth, where a honey bun left on a bed implies a sexual advance. This leads to crude but playful banter about prison life, though the tone shifts to a more analytical discussion of recent rap beefs.
The main topic is 38 Special’s diss track aimed at Jadakiss and Jim Jones, debuted at Summer Jam’s pre-show. The hosts criticize the track for its underwhelming beat and execution, arguing that 38 Special missed an opportunity to make a significant impact. They particularly condemn his decision to diss Jim Jones’ wife, Chrissy, viewing it as a low blow that could escalate tensions beyond rap.
The conversation explores whether 38 Special’s actions are driven by entitlement, given his frustration over a failed collaboration with Jadakiss, and they warn of potential real-world repercussions. The episode also covers a feud between Memphis Bleek and Yayo/Uncle Murda, debating themes of mentorship and financial independence. Bleek argues that Yayo and Murda rely too heavily on 50 Cent, while they counter that they’ve earned their own success.
The hosts dissect the fine line between gratitude and dependency, using personal anecdotes to illustrate their points. Throughout, the podcast maintains a casual, humorous tone, punctuated by ads and playful jabs at each other, making for an entertaining yet insightful discussion.
FAQs
The hosts reference an internet clip warning that if you find a random honey bun on your bed in jail, you shouldn't eat it because the person who left it will come back expecting it, and eating it could lead to a sexual encounter.
They felt it underdelivered due to a slow beat, poor execution, and spending too much time dissing Jim Jones and his wife Chrissy, which they deemed a misstep and unnecessary.
They agreed it was smart to try to create a moment, but criticized the execution because he performed on the early 7 o'clock stage when few people were there, making the impact weak.
They believe dissing family members, especially someone who stays out of drama, is crossing a line and takes the beef away from lyrical competition into unnecessary personal attacks.
The hosts discussed a beef where Bleek criticized Yayo and Murda for relying on 50 Cent, while Yayo and Murda clapped back, with Bleek arguing he's independent and doesn't need Jay-Z's constant support.
They noted it's a common practice, especially in New York, but debated whether it undermines a person's status, with some arguing that big homies shouldn't borrow chains from lesser figures.
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