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Episode 950 | "The Honey Bun"

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Episode 950 | "The Honey Bun"

The episode of the Joe Budden Podcast blends humor with serious hip-hop commentary. It begins with the hosts joking about jail rules, particularly the "honey bun" myth, where a honey bun left on a bed implies a sexual advance. This leads to crude but playful banter about prison life, though the tone shifts to a more analytical discussion of recent rap beefs. The main topic is 38 Special’s diss track aimed at Jadakiss and Jim Jones, debuted at Summer Jam’s pre-show. The hosts criticize the track for its underwhelming beat and execution, arguing that 38 Special missed an opportunity to make a significant impact. They particularly condemn his decision to diss Jim Jones’ wife, Chrissy, viewing it as a low blow that could escalate tensions beyond rap. The conversation explores whether 38 Special’s actions are driven by entitlement, given his frustration over a failed collaboration with Jadakiss, and they warn of potential real-world repercussions. The episode also covers a feud between Memphis Bleek and Yayo/Uncle Murda, debating themes of mentorship and financial independence. Bleek argues that Yayo and Murda rely too heavily on 50 Cent, while they counter that they’ve earned their own success. The hosts dissect the fine line between gratitude and dependency, using personal anecdotes to illustrate their points. Throughout, the podcast maintains a casual, humorous tone, punctuated by ads and playful jabs at each other, making for an entertaining yet insightful discussion.

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. Everybody, everybody, it's a community. Welcome all, welcome all. We're in a good mood today. Yes. Facts, facts. We're in a great mood today. We're looking good, smelling good. I would start with a prayer, but we're protected by our Lord and Savior up above. We pray for patience and discipline and the strength to deal with all the weirdness going on on Earth. We was talking about the honey bun shit. What's the honey bun shit? You're playing this to me. And I was the honey bun on your bed in jail. Oh. Oh, this doesn't sound good. Now, I want to say, I ain't jail man. So I don't know all the jail rules. So sometimes the internet teach me about the jail rules. So I saw a clip. Homeboy, he said, yo, don't eat the honey bun if you go to jail if you see a random honey bun on your bed. And it was like, why? He said, well, if you eat the honey bun, that wasn't your honey bun. Huh? So whoever put it on your bed is going to come. Now you give that honey bun back. Yeah. You're like, I ate the honey bun. No, no, no, no, no, no. You honey bun. No, no, no. It's in there. You honey bun. It's in there. It's in you. You ate it, right? Oh, I still need that. I got to go get that. Oh, shit. So he said he woke up and homeboy was pounding a mountain. What? From the back. He felt sharp pain. That's where the vid cut off because I saw a reactor there. He was like, what the fuck? I saw wheels. Shout out wheels. So I was like, I never been in jail long enough. Like, the longest I ever did is when they took too long ponying up the bail money. And I'm looking at the clock. So maybe call it 32 hours. Sheesh. 34. That's a big. But if somebody would have put up. Fuck. No, they moved me from, hey, where the bailout niggas go to General Pop. Man, I was like, hey, what the hell is going on here? But anyway, if they'd have put a honey bun on my bed. Like, on some snack shit. Like, just on some hungry. Here you go. Looked out. Now you got to get dicked out. I'm like, ah, somebody heard focus. It was feeling my cat a lot. You better be focused. Yeah. For the next 40 years. I 100% would have ate that honey bun. In Hudson County, they didn't do that to me. Shout out to everybody in Hudson County. And niggas look out for you when you go rap. If you spit a few verses. A honey bun. Ooh, snack time. Yo, shut the fuck up. You got to spit in verses, all right? Yeah. You got to play boy. The frosted honey bun, nigga. You got snicker bars on your bed. Muffins. Well, I ain't really a snicker dude, but a honey bun? You would have been a snicker doodle. That's crazy. We got to fight if I wake up and you fucking me. I would hope so. I didn't get to that part. I didn't get to that part in the video to hear what dude did. But when you get out, nigga, square up. When you get out. Hey, yo. When you get. And you're going to be weak for nothing. Hey, yo. Come on, ish. Yo, what's up with you? Yo, you said when you get out, we got to square up. What are you talking about? He's talking about out of prison. He's scared. That's not what he was talking about. That's not what I meant, bud. Oh, you meant get out your ass? You know you fucking freak? Y'all are disgusting. Sometimes I think when I open with a topic, y'all would share what y'all would do in that. But y'all just look at me. I'm going home. Ice you, you naughty boy, nigga. I'm not you naughty boy. Ice you somebody's icy honor, nigga. You icy honor, nigga. Damn. Fam. You ate that honey bun. Fam, Ice is going home. You ate that honey bun, nigga. I'm not making it there. But if you happen to be there. I ain't going to jail, neither. You don't dictate if you make it there. Ooh, cup of noodles. That's free. No, you don't. Yes, he will. No, he can't. He can't dictate that. He'll get him all the information he needs. Yo, my nigga, you could go to jail without having a coat. It's a fact. Then what happens? Well, Ice don't commit no crimes. Bruh, it could be a mistaken identity. Or something. The innocent. In the jail, nigga. Yeah. Then you out. Then you out. Then you out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just hold me down. They ain't putting one honey bun on free shit. They're going to come with a bucket, a barrel. And they got sweet charcuterie. There's going to be a group. There's going to be a few niggas. And then. He going to be icing. That was nasty, bro. Why y'all got to start out being gay? Y'all. What? Y'all. Please. Y'all. Y'all gay. Free. The nigga said, it's a pack of honey buns. The whole little Debbie cart on your shit. Free. Oh, my God. Free is going to lay in that shit, too. Y'all are disgusting, y'all. Y'all are nasty, bro. What's wrong with you? Free's head going to be banging on his apple. Bop, bop, bop, bop. Oh, you got apple watch in here, boy? Oh, man. For you to connect. Yo, y'all don't have to be gay this episode. Shout out to all our supporters from the LGBTQIA community. And the prisons. Plus. And the prisons. Word. Because you niggas got iPads and walk-ins and shit. And they be listening. I hope to never see you again. I never see none of y'all. But I'm going to see y'all one day. It's going to happen. No. It's power of words. They're going to make something up. Wrong foot. Hey, you look like somebody. You know all the black people shit. Oh, y'all don't know. They may come home. That guy's going to be relieved. They're going to come home and you may see them. You mean you hope not to see them in prison? You hope not to be in the same prison? No, I hope not to see them when they come home, either. You don't see them, you niggas. I thought about what you said when you talked about the Jay-Z shit. Nigga, I know you don't like to be bothered, nigga, but so what? Like, it's just something about, I dealt with the same thing this weekend. Like, niggas just don't care. I live vicariously through you. You got to just accept niggas. You around enough criminals for me. No, I'm not anymore. Like, when I see it through your shit, I'll be like, yeah. Nah. We got a present still. Niggas is too aggressive, nigga. And you just got to respect it. Nigga, who cares if you're not in the mood? Nigga, I love you, nigga. It's all right, my nigga. I love you too, nigga. That's something you would say. Are we still talking about the honey bun? Nah, hell no. Look at you feeling freaky. Look at you. Look at you feeling away. Well, he's talking about using the moon. He would have been the honey bun giver. Parks would have been the one giving out the honey buns, nigga. Just on some freak shit. Yeah. Parks is crazy. Yo, them niggas in jail is freaks, yo. Why you put honey buns in my bed, you want to fuck? Why you ain't got no game? It ain't even a. Just flirt, bro. Turn them. Ain't no bitches in there. Use a little romance. Yeah. Turn them. You're going to turn them, all right? Chivalry is dead, I see. Oh, man. Oh, Mark, what's up, bro? Wake it up. Wake up, man. You cool? I'm great. You're waiting for the subject to change. All right, well, let's change it. Where's your wedding ring? Oh, shit. Oh, it's in the. Joe's being funny. Let's change it, then. It's in the cleaners. Wait, where's your wedding ring? Yeah, I got a new one coming. A silicone one. My fingers are. My finger's fractured, so I can't really fit one. You ain't wore your wedding ring in a little bit. Since I fractured the finger. It's amazing how that works. Yeah. So you're getting a silicone one? It's a bigger size. It's a bigger size, and it stretches. Why don't you just wait? Well, okay. That's a lot. We're still gay here. On some honey bun shit. Oh, my God. Yeah, I don't. I buddy tape it when I train. Colby. Colby, boy, shit. Yo, you niggas got a lot on the corner. Never mind. I know. You know what? I'm going to take a little dark piece of tape and tie it around my. Yo, these fans are crazy. They noticed I didn't wear it. Because I tried to put it back on, and it didn't fit. That's why. So they noticed, and they made videos about it. Flip might be right. Mark's having problems at home. Don't throw me in that. That's what they said. They said Flip is on to something. You started it. Talk to them niggas. You right. A lot of shit you said. You literally. You right, too. Don't throw me in that, boy. You talking about don't? Hey, I think you. You on the trail. It don't matter. I'm not playing. This is the time you insert a jinkies. Nah, Mark. Anything cool at home. Everything great at home. We did our show together yesterday. Me and my wife and I didn't have it there either. Again, this damn thing. Oh, she just showed up. That's financial abuse and manipulation. I just want to point out, hey, that's my old trick. Have a gig with them. Just in case the romance bar falls through. They still got to show up. They stuck. It's a form of control. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. For sure. Yeah, what's up, Reed? Yo, what's good, man? I see you started your gig with George. That's my man right there. Don't worry. My pop is getting thicker. I'm right behind you. I'm about to put mine on kick or some shit. Hey, sit there. Sit there. Hey, sit here. I heard. Yo, I watched your shit, too. I heard it. I said, what? Oh, no. They was in their bag over there. Yeah, we over there playing GTA, man. We chillin'. I love that. Having a good time. And you look good. You look better over there. Like, you got a gamer face. For real. Nah, he look like the gamer. You always think I'm John McAdoo. He's like Denzel among gamers. It sounds funny, but I'm with you. That's kind of what I'm saying. He look like the Megatron gamers over here. It's pride. That nigga look like. That nigga look like Odysseus found his way home. Julius Gamer. Nigga, this natural habitat. Big-ass game face. He's sitting there giving some takes. Hey, y'all both was on camera? Nah. I heard it. Oh, boy, no. Not yet. Not yet. She talk out of nowhere. I said, oh, shit. She said, yo, you want me to get out the car? I go, oh, they playing together. I watched it. Yeah, we playing together. Freeze, keep off camera, nigga. Yeah, yo. She's coming on camera, bro. I just got my. She don't have a setup yet. I just ordered all that shit. Plus, it's two rooms. That's my old move, too. Ooh. Find a star, pour into them, and dick them down, right? Find somebody that's got some untapped potential that they're not really seeing without your support. Give her a honey bun. Give my honey bun. Give him a little honey bun. Dick them down. Make sure they get on camera and speak power into your name. That's right. Mark doing it. Anybody doing it except for. Speaking of being off camera, Ish was in D.C. What's up? What's up? How was your. Yo, you on bullshit today. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. We're in a great mood. We got great topics. That's where you're in your best mood. I'm chilling. I'm really depressed. I'm just fucking cracking on y'all about it. You're in D.C. again? Yeah. When was you in D.C.? This nigga won't leave D.C. I came home last night. Did you move? I did. Are you going to? Nah. Shout out to everybody in the DMV. True. Showing me mad love and. Oh, I know. That's my boy. That's my boy. That's my boy. You know what that mean already. He ain't going to say it. He talking to somebody. Yo, y'all out of time. How did he show you mad love? You know who you are. Yo, you know who you are. What Drake said. This goes out to you. Baby, you my everything. You're an idiot, bro. What'd you. You was in for five minutes. What's showing mad love mean? Like, while you was building a house? He put the D in DMV. For sure. The pot is huge in DMV. The pot is huge everywhere, bud. Oh, you talking crazy. Buddy, the DMV, though. He talking that freak shit that's huge, huh? He hemathy. And you was already kind of semi-hemathy pause out there. So now. He was hot. Now you. Thanos is dead. Nah, she was dope. You said who's dope? They was on your dick? Nah. The girls, I mean. Nah. A couple of them? I don't see any of that. I'm talking about. Wait, wait, slow down. Don't speed past that one. You don't see any of that. I'm about to answer you. When I'm outside, like, I'm at Home Depot yesterday. Literally, at Home Depot yesterday. And the niggas from. I know that trick. Nah, I'm staying quiet. I want to hear where you're going. I knew that. I know that trick. You might have one. Nigga, this story better end with a bang. Bro, nah, seriously. I'll tell you that one. Nah, I don't. Hey, I would jump one that counts. Yo, dog, no bullshit. No. Yo, dog, in the Home Depot, it's other grown men. It's a little weird, though. The grown man was going to get other men in the store to bring him over to. To meet you. That's him. Meet and greet. Nah, that ain't him. That's him. That sounds about right, though. That shit is crazy. That's crazy. So that, you know, that's fire. No women in there, though? Yeah, there's women that work at Home Depot. Yeah, in the Depot. The guy didn't do that work. In the DMV. How many days you out there for? From Friday to. To Thursday. I went Saturday. Oh. So Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Flew or drove? Drove. I flew down, drove back. You went to. You went to CVS when you was out there? I ain't going to lie. Stopped at CVS? I ain't going to lie, you doing something. Did you go to CVS? You keep driving up, nigga. I'm working. Nah, nigga, you bringing some shit back. What you doing, boy? I'm going to your truck. You keep driving up. You got a rental, can I. You doing something, nigga. I used to do that. I don't know what you used to do. You up to something, nigga. Look at that. You had to, nigga, stay down there with that. You was a mule. Nah, nigga. Nigga, see, here you go again. No, nigga, you a harboring fugitive, nigga, in your fucking house, nigga. You're hiding Mexicans, nigga. I am. Watch your mouth. All right, don't do it. Now, listen. Mr. Eesh. You doing something, and I need to get down to the bottom of it. I want in on what you got going on. What's your credit like? Ah. All right, well, can't get in. You can look at him and guess his credit score. For real, I told you. He don't look like somebody that's killing the credit. And you can look at him and tell that. You can look at him and tell he's an. See, he look like a. He's an. I know, I'm not laughing. He's getting. He's an. He's in a truck that's like a 590. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. A 590. I know, yeah. Internal prison ass nigga, you going through it. Your wife just show up to the spots, nigga. Honey, you there? Nigga, get dressed. Nigga, we about to record. You bitch ass nigga, chill the fuck out. You next. Yo, bro, you get. You next. You start this, though. So what? All right, cool. Say less. I love all y'all niggas. Don't just leave me alone. Oh, man. My credit score. My credit score's good now. Jumping. What's good? Is it in the sevens? No. Almost. Okay. Six, 12. Right. No, no, hell no. That's low six, nigga. It's high six, nigga. I had to do the move. I had to do the. Keep that to yourself, bro. Yeah. Why? There's a lot that I have to hear about. There's a lot of shit up here that is really important to me. I want to hear about Parks and Freeze at Summer Jam. Yes. I want to hear Parks fight his way out of this 38th special box. I'm muting up. I want to hear about Mark. I want to hear about Mark pulling out the fucking 50 Cal on Homeboy. Oh, shit. Like, there's a lot going on today. You pulled a gun on somebody? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He pulled out that education gun. He's a ball boy. Oh, the nigga on the. I watched that shit this morning. Oh, my God. Mark is a maniac. Mark's an asshole. He's a maniac. He's a flash. But for the people born in the 2000s, come on, man. Let's have some fun. Yeah. Fuck, man. Oh. This is it, man. This is it, baby. You know what it is. You might see me in the Jag truck. Masked up. Keep up with a dime or a bad duck. Double off a T with the matching bandana. What year is this? What year is this? Early 2000s. Yes, it's 98, right? Some where there. See, in 98, niggas didn't hear this and say, let's play with him. No, they didn't. Nobody said that. Nowhere. That's when I ran away from home. living my baby mom's she's cooking get a car she's in the hood no stop you ain't come outside why not she was in the hood Joe Budden 19 stop playing me boy you just met me when I was grown playing me boy you are so you was when you came even though I love Mike check what you want to make check what you want to put our eyes on the table so glad I could be able to the rednecks up in the mountain to try to play for me tell you what I want you to know fuck what you asked me probably don't want me to blow whole while yo what's going on out there shout the j1 nigga even though I'm able to flip you pay and if you call up and I write a hook for a drop and I write a hook for a drop whatever's in the bank is my bet a see-saw my bet you get the lay down the net yo where my co-punks co-punks co-punks you check this out we can't really figure this clown out where is he from Jamaica, Queens, Cali or down south I could let a LA gun hit him from Great Street whole New York City what's up out there I could let a New York knife poke him with one of my throwaways but I don't want to see no cops smoking somebody tell Paul we rioting get ready to auction off the cars we dyin' bump head, since you like having people with you get you a hospital with bum bags without Dr. Dre you would just make slow jams come up out of that witness protection program don't really respect me, get in your place if Ben was alive, he'd have probably spit in your face now I'm doing just fine without you I probably would have made an album about you so I guess that just leaves me here to get rid of you always for the ladies, always for the ladies Big Jersey, what's going on? Patronies, what up out there? Subgroups, what up out there? 2005, nobody fights fair I just know an instrumental's your worst nightmare if it's tough for you, bad, too bad, you mad probably been in your old hood more than you had and you sold more records than me but in the streets you will always be sexy shout out to all the hate listeners out there everybody running around on vacations and all that damn near killin' me you don't even even consider rapping to a song this is probably the best thing to happen to us the best wingster, internet gangster, magazine monster shit on your whole roster oh my god sheesh ho buffalo, what's going on man, what's popping out there? everybody up, getting their morning cup of coffee and all that whatever vice you into, whatever you need trees got it, you heard that? whatever old nigga, new nigga, what? yo, yo, yo who really the best rapper since big ain't here? y'all know the answer to that when kids ain't here when you see me, don't ask me nothing about us and don't definitely ask me nothing about motherfuckers you owe me one, I owe you two I would've smacked you with a burger but I know you through and I'm not talkin' to him, I'm talkin' to you matter of fact, talkin' to y'all life is like walkin' in the yard niggas stab you with a fork I don't think that's a thing, rap niggas it's some niggas that can rap really, really well that may not be the greatest at making a diss track and on the flip side, it's niggas that don't rap the greatest that may make an amazing diss track and then you have the anomaly of niggas that are aliens and do both so, here it goes you guys might as well be murkin' niggas 'cause the time that they givin' out is hurtin' niggas and all these trackin' labels jerkin' niggas and you never was a thug, you's a workin' nigga and you heard that shit right there yeah, I started that hat don't make me twist somethin' up in your starter hat don't matter who you are or where you from screw all of that, I'm not tryin' to hit it, son I got it now, though, baby This is what the street will raise for us Six shots out of the western So much purple, a drought is out of the question Blow your heart out of your chest then Lay low in a trunk duplex down on the western Focus on what I invest in Got married to marijuana, yeah and the Kinect is my best man Even though the game gon' change, it's the same old thing Most of my cash came off the desk Six, four, five niggas with used deuces White pipe, late night treatment Yo, if you was born after the DJ was talking over the track Mute the fuck up right now! What the fuck y'all think I make music for? And I'm about to get a gallon of water You know what I mean? K-Slay, P-Cutter and all that What the fuck they talking about? DJ Boom and all that What are they doing? And I still rip a nigga beat like I bought it And it's my time so I'm glad I caught it My bars could be smoked and the pipe would snow Just make an eclipse It's his head, it's his head It's his aim, it's his eye, niggas This shit's got no future Y'all keep trying to force ya Until you get popped by the wall My plan is to amaze ya And even when they try to make the guard dress up I got the hammer and the blazer Step my game up from the potato to the laser So you gon' need surgery even if it graze ya Motherfuckin' kiss of death, nigga Double R, D-block and you know the ghost is next, nigga Can't find you, we just smoke the next, nigga Never hold nothin' in, you're supposed to check, nigga Motherfuckin' kiss of death, nigga Can't find you, we just smoke the next, nigga Can't find you, we just smoke the next, nigga Everything we do, stay gettin' overlooked Now y'all be shook, cause we dealin' with real drugs I can't lie for a while, y'all catches on us But now, if you can't beat us, join us We tryin' to blow live with the talks in the booth Yo, shout to all the truck drivers, all the teachers out there All the kids gettin' ready for college and all that Andrew, Mark, B-11's, mom hats with the thangs Head-on head collision, I'm a problem And nobody can solve on my long division On the road to success, but it's more of a mission They said I would be dead or I was goin' to prison And one of them is certain But the other one isn't I make rare decisions Rock diamonds that impede And even supply drugs, yeah, it's a little It's like I'm just startin' But I got niggas who took hands to get them Whenever I see them, notice the same thing is with them He destroys tracks, the minute he hears the rhythm Only a hell of a flow, but his ears forbidden If you think this is a ringtone, yeah, you kiddin' 50,000 records, so right, yeah, you kiddin' It was his time to go, he can't build He appreciate life and got air for livin' C.P. by the league A good cheetah Sergio Tech sweatsuit Good Adidas Jews is invisible that we was supposed to get from them Used to send them to the store, now we blowin' pit for them Nowadays it's different I was fortunate cause I did a lot of listenin' The new era is missin' it Everybody 357 and 455 in it Drug program, 2 to 4, 3 to 60 Bad sit niggas way out by Lake Michigan Yo, thank God for us, man Thank God for us up here It ain't too many outlets that remind y'all of what hip-hop used to sound like Or you fuckin' new age digital babies I'm sorry I'm sorry Beato with the potato And clap at niggas in broad day, though You know the flow Where it come from and where it go Where it's gon' be at That's where we at I'll touch you Alright, we got a great show lined up for y'all We about to have a whole lot of fun, man You, three niggas, you don't want none of Make your insides feel like the summer You gettin' dumber and dumber While we gettin' smarter and smarter Makin' shit harder and harder We took this rap game like it's harder Our name on styles is Raw Steam from Casino And Sheik is the boss of the Hennessy game, you know Millions, you talk Casino Used to stash dope in our ski coats Couldn't play it sweet, though You know the kiss On the low in the mix Blowin' drugs, sippin' Red Alley and Moe Alright, you got it ready? You got it loaded up over there? Loaded up over there? In the box with the suit on Like you used to look at the carpet All right, good Congratulations, homie You made history All right, let's get right to it, man 1.1 million in a short week Let's have a little bit of fun At the end of your fuckin' record, niggas You know what he did when he put me there, you motherfucker He didn't block it One thing up here may co-sign you, nigga And you make me look like I'm your man We were homeless like grown men You won't win You don't even feel comfortable on your own skin I rip my ass off Fightin' a champ with a glass jaw And the guard an ass off You see me, couple hood niggas behind stars Heard you put a couple good niggas behind bars I might never sell that much You can bet your last two quarters I never tell that much Hey, you know what I'm sayin'? Just not come out swingin' Just like on the C-50 at a show Yo, and shout out to the whole Queens It ain't really about that right now We over that We owe that This is just like a reminder Like, why, why, like It's really gon' be for good I'm holdin' 4-5 myself Hop out the range I'm 1-4-5 myself This is a true fact Since when has it become All right, Mark, you ready? You ready to go? You ready to go? You ready to go? Is she ready to go? You ready to go? Freeze, freeze, freeze, big freeze Now I gotta melt you Don't try to pull a prank on kids Cause the niggas I'ma send to do it Ain't gon' miss Be straight up stiff I switch straight up piff I do real songs with big No made-up shit I don't got a problem with clout You ain't get shot in the ass What you say tonight? What about it? The rap's not preschool Without money, now be cool For a swell up your lips like seafood I get a mic check If you don't stand a chance To dance with me, don't Yeah, they can't park Hey, freeze Hey, freeze, look at Mark Yeah, yeah, yeah Y'all leave him alone You should just sell clothes and sneakers Cause after your whole camp Your flow's the weakest I'm in a town with a young boy With his predicate Running around with a lieutenant And a captain Gonna take a lifetime To see kids You had to get shot All right, man You rich, fat-ass nigga You's a animal You's a motherfuckin' animal Oh my God Somebody that can sit in a dark room And do that Yo, I'm getting these drops out the way And we right to it, man We ain't got time to play No, Joe, burn Not for daddy It's Parks It's Parks It's Parks Oh, dude You icy ass shit Who is that? Is Mark the Mario a pussy? I'm from the Weber I'm from the Weber nitty era It's the network All right, mic check So good to be here What episode is this? 950 Welcome to episode 950 Of the Joe Budden Podcast Brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks Prize Picks gang Yeah I'm your humble, gracious, grateful Extremely happy to be here Host Joe Budden here With the best fuckin' panel In the universe To my right Queens get the money Queens Flip is in the building Flip, what's up with you? I'm good I'm happy to be here Let's get to work Good, good Next to Flip Our good brother Philadelphia's finest Dr. Mark Lamont Hill Is in the building Mark, what's poppin'? Ain't shit, man I'm good Good, good So happy to be here with you Next to him Stop playin' with him D.C.'s finest Virginia's finest Maryland's finest Irvington's finest West Orange's finest Livingston's finest Colts' next Findin' red hook Yeah, stop playin' with him Big freeze I mean, not freeze Issues in the building Make some noise Big issues in the building, man So glad he could be here with us Master Green That's that it, should he With the camo It's from the 90s, man Y'all know what time it is Issh, how you doin', my brother? I'm good, dawg Good, good Happy to be Drain, right? Driving takes a lot out of you Yo, tell me about it, yo You never realize it Like, when you drivin' back Like, drivin' home It's different from flyin' back The flight back home is shorter When you drivin' back home After you stop at that CVS Around 11 p.m., too The pharmacy closed They ain't that close Self-checkout is just you In that aisle And it's mad at them in there now Strawberry Durex Fuckin' lavender raspberry Thin lambskin Texture Rigged for her pleasure Rigged for her pleasure Next to it Stop playin' with him You can check him out On his channel Stop playin' Big Freeze In the building Freeze was poppin' What's goin' on, man? Nothin' much, how you doin'? I'm great, great Good, absolutely love that You caught the Puma stripe with the sweats You did it Appreciate it You did, you look good Next to him, man The khaki shorts Won't save him today He got a rep for his hood Elmira He stood strong on some shit Big Parks is in the building I'm here Parks, how you doin', man? Feelin' great, man How about you? You didn't call out I'm good, I'm good I'm never callin' out I love that you didn't call out, man Poe is here for about an hour Oh, you are here Ain't you leavin'? Friday Friday, he not leavin' today Where you goin'? Today's not Friday Yo, you tryin' to make it happen to me You tryin' to make life go fast, boy It happens to me Nah, it happened to me, too Nah, I'm blurrin' It's over, yo It's alright, man I swore it was Friday I said, how was y'all weekend? Friday's is like Tuesday Since I don't go nowhere It's the same shit to me It's always the same Just a blur, right? I was fucking staring at each other. I love it, though, man. I love it, though. It's absolutely amazing. Corey is here. Our new photographer is here. Hey. Hey, Amanda. Amanda is here. How are you? Erickson is here. Tanner and Stavon are here by remote last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Come on. Let's get right into it. Yes. Let's get right to it. Come on, Park. Just go ahead, man. Want me to hit play? Yeah, just play it. All right. Let's do it. Yeah, we ain't got time to play. We here. Let's get to it. We got shit to talk about. We got shit to do today. New 38 smash. 38 smash. 38 smash. Hey, y'all. Hey, day I wake, I got new hate. These niggas ride dicks so much. They got a due date. Rap is too fake. Front, and they have to move weight. We joined the gang at 30-something. That was too late. That's 38. Give a fuck what a rap dude make. They had Wagyu on their plates. We had Q-Stakes. Niggas only care about views and how they shoes lace. You had a baby by a bum, bitch. That's a fool's baby. So, Jim, I don't see two white men jumping smash and you falling down the escalator in the airport. Brand new 38 smash. Brand new smash. This is his Jadakiss Jim Jones diss record. He shot a video. It's out now. Turn it up. I don't see smash them have these kind of issues because he moves all the time. Hey, y'all. I came to talk to these kids on some drums. I'm a little bit of a rocker. I'm just saying, if this shit was fire, we wouldn't even be thinking about that right away. I agree with everything you just said. I just- Well, yeah, that's where the critique comes in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like the beat. I don't like the tempo, but I also just, this is my first time hearing it, and I'm underwhelmed. I'll just say that. Before we even get to that, though, because 38 Special performed at the 7 o'clock stage at Summer Jam. Yeah. And he tried to use that moment to go on there and freestyle this to diss, you know, them. The problem with that is, when you're on the 7 o'clock stage- Ain't nobody in that bitch. Nobody's there yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, it kind of- Shit, we weren't even in there. Quirk. Like, you tried to make a moment out of it at Summer Jam, it's New York. They were saying, "This is special at Summer Jam," and I'm looking at the crowd like, "Is it Summer Jam?" That don't look like- We'll get to that. We're going to get to that. We're going to cover that. But this was the pre-show. Right. He was on the 7 o'clock stage at the pre-show. And Summer Jam is on a Friday now, not a Saturday. So, a Saturday pre-show- Sunday. It used to be Sunday. Sunday. You're right. So, we're not mad at a Sunday pre-show, because ain't nobody at work. Exactly. The people that want to go to the pre-show can go to the pre-show. On a Friday, the pre-show- They fucked that up. Is different. They fucked that up. We'll get to the Summer Jam review later, but- Yeah, he did a lot of- Well, just about Special real quick. Yeah, yeah. He did a lot of antics, even with this. He's walking around backstage, Summer Jam, with the cameras. I'm looking, because I think Kiss and somebody said he was in the militia, or gym. One of them, excuse me. But, I'm looking for- Where y'all at, basically, is what he's saying. And Kiss kind of responded, "Summer Jam is the safest place to be, because of course all the security, especially if you're performing on the seven o'clock early stage. There's nobody there." So, you're walking around doing these antics, you're freestyling, nobody heard it, nobody saw you. It's a bad setup to now put this record out and it be this. Well, I think it missed, I'm not mad at using that opportunity to make a moment. You have to do that. You have to be there to make the moment. I understand that, but you don't get that opportunity to be in a fucking arena full of people. If I'm going to do this, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. That's right. We can judge it in hindsight, because we don't love the record or whatever, but using that moment to preview a diss track, even if no one's there, and making some moments backstage is the right thing to do, unfortunately, when you're trying to fucking make a bunch of people pay attention to your shit. You just don't like the execution. Yeah, exactly. I don't like that. Yeah. Go ahead, we can get back to it. I agree with what you're saying. I agree. There's a lot of shit that's been on show, like I've been saying from the rip, honestly. First of all, and there's a lot of points to hit on this, so I'll try to not speak as slow as I normally do. First of all, anticipation was way too high. Yeah. People were expecting something, he was teasing something, he was leading up to it. You shot a video, you got Fat Joe and Jadakiss lookalikes, you're at the Summer Jam, I'm rolling with what Park say, if you bold, be bold, nigga, do it in they town, go ahead and do it. But, Joe, that's like when niggas be saying I'm in your hood, but I'm in your hood. I'm in your hood at four in the morning when ain't nobody outside. I understand. It's the Summer Jam. It's not the same thing. I understand that. It's not the same. But he's booked to perform at Summer Jam. Facts. Before all this. Pre-show or main stage, that's a big moment, especially for an underground act. Yeah. So he is supposed to go up there and relish in that. I'm not mad at that. Anticipation was too high to under-deliver, and I think the consensus is that he did under-deliver with this one. I agree with Park. I didn't think about the bop, but I did think about the BPM. If you dissing somebody, let's speed it up a little bit. It's adrenaline. It's the chakras. But let me ask y'all a question. If you dissing somebody, regardless of what the BPMs are, if the lyrics is fire, does it really, really matter? It does. Yeah. The presentation matters. It does. The beat is always going to matter. Yes. How it's received and a lot of the consumers, the beat is a large part of that. We'll catch what you're saying at some other time. It's important. But that's their style. He slowed it down. That's my third point. Special's already on record saying, "Jim Jones, you're not qualified to even speak in rapper conversations." Okay, then why are we dictating- Dedicating. I mean, dedicating, I'm sorry, 80%, 90% of a diss track toward Jim Jones. For me, that seems counterproductive if you're that dismissive of who he is. Which you said you were. Fourth, I'm totally against dissing Chrissy. 1,000%. 1,000%. Always. That's where it lost me. That's where you get to bozo land. For me. Like, what are you doing? Now, from his perspective, war is war. Nope. I just don't think that that's wise. I've been consistent in that. He thinks he's dissing Jim Jones and Jadakiss and whoever. And you dissin' Roc Nation and Bird Gang and all the people that all of these people are affiliated with. So that's musicians, that's venues, that's. It's too much to name. If you down to do that. See, I think he think he just doing some rapper shit, which is what I said on some old school, "Hey, I came in the game thinking I could rap with everybody. Let's rap, nigga. I'm better than you niggas." But that wasn't the game. It's way bigger than that. So if you down to do that- If you down to do that, cool. Dissin' Chrissy just seems like a total misstep to me. I never loved dissin' family, especially this early in the game before we even get to real mudslingin'. Unless they involved, they shouldn't be involved. This started from where a white tee or whatever the fuckin' Jim Jones initial diss was. We don't need to go to wives. I agree with you. Personal opinion. A thousand percent. And again, if you really think you can rap and out-rap that- Then do it. Rap his ass under the bus. Right. Like, "Yo, you, you, you, that low hangin'. Eh." Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of dissin' nobody's wife. But especially, Chrissy, to me, I'm not a fan of dissin' nobody's wife, but some people just are known for mindin' their business. Some people are known for the silence. Some people, the way they silent is so gangsta- Yeah. You gotta respect that. Mm-hmm. What are you fuckin' doin', yo? She don't bother nobody. Not a soul. Like, those people I don't. Those people you don't involve in whatever side show you doin'. This is new era diss record, which is weird, comin' from Spesh, who's of age. You know what I'm sayin'? Like, going to the family and mudslingin' is not like the cloth of rapper that he usually portrays. We lost the plot. Yeah. Yeah. This started with him and Jadakiss. Yeah. And now we on him and Jim Jones and his wife. Yeah, I ain't liking it. We've left your lyrical ability now. Right. Now they judging your song making. You probably blackballed from a few things. It's probably a few events that you shouldn't attend now, for sure. And it's like, for what? For the fan's first impression from that diss track? Like, it ain't even like you did this and then followed with, like, a plan. Like, I don't understand what 38 Special's doing. Yes, he can rap. Yes, I like him. This is improper planning, improper strategy, and just this song is. Bad execution. This is letting the internet talk you into jumping off a bridge in a bad way. But even if when you jump, you jumping with a parachute, that's cool. That rap ain't the parachute. Yeah. That song is not. That song is not the parachute. You get what I'm saying? You can't do all this to end with that. But this song is like step five or six in bad steps that he's taking. Yeah. I agree. And I wanted to say, you know what, after hearing it, well, as it was planned when I first heard it, I'm like, all right, maybe he's doing the old jab and try to bait somebody that you're not trying to bait. You've been doing that, though. Jadakiss. Bro, I thought it was AI. But you've been doing that. You can't bait Jadakiss. I thought it was AI. Again, these niggas' legacies are established. Etched in stone, they some of the greatest already, not to say they didn't have a glaze off back to Honey Buns. But these niggas ain't people that's just like waking up and trying to rap every day to feed their families. That era is behind us. That era is past us now. It's like when people talk to me about some rap shit. Hey, cool, nigga. Think what you think. Whatever I did, I did it. And whatever we think, we think. That's not where I'm at today. Right. I don't understand it. I don't. And I did want. I was trying to invite him up here to speak to 38 Special directly, but I ain't in the pig, the mudslinging. Once you do that, what do you want me to do? I can't sit next to you. Yeah. I agree a thousand percent. It went from, I can't wait to what he says. And when you listen, it's like, ah, come on, man. Yeah, we went from. I thought that, and I really thought he would give Jadakiss more. That's what I'm saying. You had me excited about Jadakiss. I saw Jadakiss. And he typing, it's more coming. Yeah, I saw Jada Instagram. It's over. But Jadakiss said he was just paying a tribute to his uncle that passed away. But I saw, I'm like, oh, shit, this is about to get nasty, nigga. And then I heard that. I'm like, I felt like, and I'm not taking anything from Jim, because Cabo's my man. Right. It looked like a little bit of picking and choosing to me. Yeah. It was a bunch of picking and choosing. It is. You heard all of it. Yeah, why would you go swinging at Jim? Yo, dog, why the fuck are we swinging at Jim Jones? Hey, we in rapper land now. Hey, let's keep Jim Jones out the club. And I don't necessarily feel like that. I feel like Jim Jones is a much improved rapper. He is, for sure. I do. But if we in MC land, hey, keep him out the club. There he go. Right there. There go that nigga right there. He's in front of you. In the same spot. And especially because Kiss only said two lines to me, I'm saying two lines to him. You not him. Right. He can do that. Because he came out. In 95. Nigga, you called him out. He said two lines to you. You was worth two lines to him. He was right in 95. And if that's your theory, Jim ain't give you what you gave him. Right. Right. Yeah. If your theory is, yo, Kiss only said two lines to me, so I'm going to give him two lines. He said Jim was disrespectful and Jada Kiss wasn't. But to my knowledge, Jim was. Talk about your clothes. Yo, that's pics, man. I don't respect that. You talked about your clothes, my nigga. You talking about somebody's wife. Yes. Dropping a nuke on the end. You know what I'm saying? Yo, what are we talking about? Like, yeah. And he said this more. And listen, respectfully, please don't shoot at me. I'm just chilling. I'm just commentating, calling it. Got to call it for your fight. Yeah. Now that we've heard this best diss track, don't do it again. Don't say Jada. Don't say Jada Kiss. Sunkiss. Jada Pinky. Jada Pinky, right? No, Jada Fire. No, Jada Fire. You can't say Jada Fire. They trying to get me in trouble. Is there more to that song? This nigga's snitching on his self. No. There's more, but it's up to y'all if you want to hear it. He set me up. Look at that nigga. Yo, can I hear a little bit more? I don't speak to him no more. Go ahead. So you said. I know. That you don't speak to him no more. I said she don't blow dick. What? Man, this nigga talking like a boss, but ain't giving out no jobs. Nigga, you can't even go home and get a blow job. Before you made cash off rap, what was your job? Gym story faker than the one fact you're wrong. Huh. And yo, bro, face tight ballot. Without that body work, that bitch would be shaped like callus. Better replace some steaks for some late night salad. No matter how much. You hate, you can't take my talent. Huh. You're talking to a real man with skilled hands. I took kilograms and built brands. Got a flow that'll fill stands. Only reason kids eatin' cause he fat joke lil' mans. Huh. My thing to this is. Yeah, nah, that's enough for me, though. For those who know. They know 38 Special can rap. I was A-Rab, too. There's a lot of people who's never, not gonna say never, but this is their introduction to him. Yeah. This ain't do it. This is not a good introduction. He's much better than this. Their introduction to him was calling out Kiss. Hey, who are you? How dare you call out Kiss? We know what Kiss do. He documented. Yeah. Who the fuck are you? That's how a lot of people were looking at him. Yeah. And we get this. It's like, oh, nigga, go, go. You make better time responding to Nino. Oh, man, what you want to do? Honestly, like, I feel like Special's proven the point of why some niggas you just leave. Yeah. Like, I feel like he's proven this with that. Whatever he did, don't direct that to what Jadakiss' real name again? Jason. Mr. Yeah, he can't. Cause the worst thing that can happen for him is for Jadakiss to call out of work. Jadakiss ain't calling out of work. He ain't, because them Lox niggas is disciplined. But that's why. Like, if the Lox was on bullshit still, like, if this was the 90s. Oh, no, no. But the Lox is old and disciplined and fucking protein shakes and veggies and positivity and motivation. It's all of that shit going on. So, cool. Have at it. But the responses are telling you something. Jadakiss. Jadakiss is commenting and saying, hey, that's a safe place that you in. Says, I'm not rapping. We're not rapping no more. Fat Joe's response says what everybody is saying. Hey, hey, I'm not rapping. They all saying I'm not rapping. I'm going to handle this accordingly. And that's the bad part. Like, how do we go from, yo, I wanted you to be on my song. Right. I wanted a verse from you because I admired. I admire you and I revere you and I wanted to. I told y'all when that conversation came up, he was never getting that verse. No, wait, no, I agree. Look, but I want you to enter into this gladiator space of rapping with me on my song. Yeah. Now we go from that to potentially, forbid, somebody could get hurt from behind us. We went from that. And we don't want none of that. We don't want that. Hopefully, hopefully not. Forbid. But that's what you're putting out in the world. But that's what you put. That's the energy that you put out. Yeah, that's manifestation. This is not about rapping at this point. And all that shit stems from entitlement. All of it. On whose behalf? Smash. I don't owe you a verse. Kiss don't owe you nothing. So you mad he wouldn't do the verse and you start shooting at him that way. That's entitlement. I want to rap with you. You're ducking me. You won't give me the verse. I'm trying to get you. That's entitlement, bro. That's the thing. That's why I want to shoot him some bail. Yeah, it's not entitlement. Because I used to do that. Yeah, you were acting entitled too, though. If I act. No, it wasn't entitlement. It's not entitlement, bro. If I ask you for a verse, I'm thinking it's all right. Or it's an introduction. I'm asking you for a verse. I want to interject briefly. There was some communication that a verse would happen at some point. Okay. Yeah. And he didn't say the verse wasn't happening. I don't owe it to him. But the fashion in which I learned that that verse is not happening is going to activate how I'm feeling about the matter. It's not that I feel I'm entitled. I asked plenty of niggas for a verse. That's where my ASAP Rocky DeGhams tweet comes up. Hey, he tweeted some shit or Rocky said some shit and now I am on your ass. You wouldn't give her. Oh, that's how y'all feel. We on y'all niggas. It's not entitlement. It's killers. But the fact that you don't get a verse and you're lashing out because you didn't get something you wanted, that speaks to entitlement, Joe. Kind of. That's the definition of it. I wouldn't look at it as the motivation behind it. It could be. But it could be. It could be. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're not always right. Yeah, it's rapper shit to me. Rappers are entitled, though. But in this case, is it entitlement? I don't think it's entitlement. I thought when I first started. I thought it was just playfulness. It was banter. And as it continued, I said, oh, Spence don't have the greatest sense of humor. I've been right about this the whole way. Like, with every showing that we see him, it's like, all right, you're not getting that verse. You don't have a great sense of humor. And you sound a little serious. Like, you want to see this nigga. And that's where it got weird to me. Because I was like, oh, this is fun at first. I thought it was going to play. I actually thought it might have been orchestrated. Like, you know, they already had some verses played out. They already had a plan played out. And they were doing it together. Then at some point, it just looked like dude was going off the reservation. And even if it wasn't that, he should have played for that. Yes. Even if there wasn't a communication of a verse happening, you should have let that happen naturally. Because I think it would have. Yeah. I think it would have. I'd have even just rolled the talk for a little longer and just silenced his value. The street's talking. The rappers is talking. Podcasters, bloggers is talking. I'm getting my shit off silently. And I'm getting my looks. And I would have had 17 verses in the tub. Yeah. To just be like, this is what I do. This is what I do. Here's the record I wanted Jadakiss on. He ain't on. I'm killing it. Bam. Like, here's my album. That goes back to you. You were speaking about the Summer Jam moment. Goes to that. This is, when else do I get this opportunity? So, I'm trying to make, we know what Hov did, the prodigy, at Summer Jam. Now, that was Hov headlining. It's a moment. People used to use Summer Jam to get their shit off. All right. Now, I'm here. It's the Summer Jam stage. Let me do it now. It didn't fall right. Let me put a record out. It didn't. Like, it's a bunch of missteps. And while I'm in rapper brain, let me get this off. I don't expect anybody to get it. That line, and since you better, man, with the stove gone, hook. I might go backstage and give, hook, stove gone. Whatever that line was, it's hate. It's hate. It's hate. It's hate. You niggas not going to get it. It's hate. Your man that you fly with, that you do shows with, that you do music with, was on that Push It Clips album, and you've seen what it did. That's essentially your groupmate that's not your groupmate. You see what he's doing? The love, man. You see where the chess pieces are? They're moving. He follows that up with more Roc Nation-ish shit. Fat Joe, Jadakiss. By now, I imagine Stove God's phone to be off the hook. Oh, for sure. By now, his phone will not stop ringing with people looking for him. You see that. You see that, and you feel that. I won't give y'all 30 minutes on what the inner workings of Slaughterhouse look like when Royce Winton did that. Fucking bad meets evil project, but it was a few niggas mad about it. That was a great project. It was a few niggas mad about it. We had to try to disguise the fact, start coming up with all types of shit going on. So, yeah, we brothers, but now you throw that in a diss song. You start shooting that Roc Nation. It's like, I don't know what's going on with Spesh. He clearly looks like he's going rogue. Joe. But he shouldn't address Jadakiss again. On that rogue point. On some rapper shit. Go ahead. I'm going to pick your rapper brain for a second. Go ahead, Mark. Like, he's so talented. Spesh, yes. Great. Yeah. Nobody's denying that. I mean, like, ridiculously talented, and I expected, I had a high bar for him for what this was going to be. When you get into this zone where you make some shit like he just made to go in rogue, do you not run it past people? Because there's no way his crew listen to that. You can't ask me that. I never made nothing like that. But is that. But is that because you can't make nothing like that, or because you ran some shit by people and it's like, go back in the studio? I am a diss track veteran. I am a different monster and killer. Okay. I was going to diss rappers that were better than me, more popular than me, and I was going to spend every second making sure every bar meant something. You say A-Rab did that beat? When me and A-Rab was in the lab coming up with this, I made that nigga send me 39 beats to find the right one. I was going to diss Drake or whoever the fuck that was. Like, I wrote. When I dissed Saigon, shout out to Saigon, I was at a wedding. Oh, shit. I was with my significant other. We were at a wedding. Timeline jumping. Oh, such and such. Oh, work? Oh, shit. Say less. Do at a wedding. Like, you got to be a psycho. Special. Up to this point, has not shown that. Gotcha. In. In his penmanship and ability. I'm not talking about ability to rap. I'm talking about creating a diss track. It's a different bag right here. Yeah, it's totally different. It is different. It's totally different. He was supposed to kill Jadakiss. Or try his best. Attempt. Yeah. Try his best. Yo, they tell you in the hood all the time, you got to fight. Win or lose, you got to fight. Because they got to know you can fight basketball. You got to shoot the jumper. We don't care you got a jumper. You have to shoot that jumper so they know you shoot that jumper. He had to shoot it. Two lines to Jadakiss in this. All started with Jadakiss. And you popping your shit like I'm him. Park said, yo, nah, he could talk to that nigga. He could talk to him. And that verse that we heard was firing up. Where it's like, if every verse is like that, then he can't talk to him. Guess what? The greats are the greats because of the consistency. Because every time they pick up a pen and paper, every time they hit the booth, no matter who's in it, no matter what the topic, no matter what the song, no matter what the beat, they could do it. If you can't do that, Jadakiss is not somebody you should talk to. And I'm battle tested. That nigga's going against prime 50 beans. Like, yeah. Like, yo, dawg. Battle tested. And more. And it's just a nice guy now. Like, today, in 2026, he's a nice guy. Much easier to get the verse from this nigga than when he was fucking giving me the dub. Smash, I'm just watching. I'm watching. That's my take. Please don't diss me. Don't diss Jadakiss again, though. Let this go. Yeah, you can let it go. Let it go. You got to let it go. Yo, go. Go focus on your shit. Do your shit, man. If you gain one fan from this, it's awesome. Leave these people alone. Please. Wasn't that Jim Jones in Prime 112 when Homeboy went in there? Yes. Yes. Like, dawg, we just won a steak. Got one. Got one. No, come on, nigga. Skewers. No, that's not right. That's why I don't like that shit. I don't like that shit. I was on some rap shit. Once niggas wanted to shoot at me for the things I said, I told other people. I didn't go grab weapons. Hey, these niggas are mad. Hey, I dumped that right on some other niggas playing. Hey, y'all want to do that? I'm out. But, yeah, dawg, I just want to stay. I'm in my air. I want to go to Prime 112. I want to be able to walk. I want to be able to not need 100 niggas when I'm moving around. I want to move. With my girl in a different city, I booked here. I want to move. I want to move freely. Ja Rule at the fucking whatever concert. That wasn't the Barclay. You think he just want to perform? No. Now it's random nigga. No. Who are you? When a nigga punch me in the strict blood. Wait, wait. Who is this nigga I'm fighting? That's scary, bro. Who are you? Yeah, that's annoying. Nigga. That's annoying shit. I don't know you, you little fucking punk. Well, it's scary, too. Yes. But even if the person isn't out to seriously hurt you, it's still annoying. Bro, I'm walking to the P. I was walking to smoke. I'm just saying. I'm walking to P. And the nigga. The nigga I don't know just socks me. That ain't have to be a punch. I could have been a punk. Who is you, yo? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on point. Why is. What? Nigga, are you crazy? Now you got to go over and figure out where the fuck I'm going. Hey, bro. Joey's on parole. You want to report? No, man. Leave him alone. Leave him alone. Now you trying to make it nastier. God damn it, Spesh. Yeah, I didn't get it. I didn't get it. Disappointed. Hopefully it's over. Yeah, it's over. It should be over. It's over. You know, that more is coming. It should be over. It's over. Like, it's over, yo. You tried. It's done. Keep me pushing. This is done. I hope so. Yeah. I don't need no more of this. We got more hip-hop shit to debate. We do? Yeah. I still got here. So stay in this bag. I like this bag, y'all. This is a hip-hop honest bag, y'all. So let's keep this bag right here. I'm about to do this Pride Spicks ad, but Mark has the worst. Bladder, yo. It's the jeans, man. Double entendre. He keeps wearing the waters with that bladder. When he wears wedding ring, he don't pee as much. I don't understand. It's like a nervous piss. It's such a good joke, too. It's way too early. Listen, the summer of soccer is in the rear view, but you can still make all of your summer sports picks on Pride Spicks. Preseason football is kicking off, and the W. NBA and baseball are heating up later. We'll get into that WNBA scandal. Hey, yep, I seen it. Y'all fucking over there, but we knew that. We knew they was fucking. I don't know why somebody had to tell us. I can't wait to hear the scandal. I didn't know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Somebody read it. 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That sound like his bag, though. Jessica Shepard. For more than 17 rebounds and assists. And that is our Ish-let of the week. Don't forget, if you download the app PrizePix, write this very second and use promo code JB. P, you get $150 instantly. Ain't no 50. You get $150 instantly. Oh, shit. When you play your very first $5 lineup, man. PrizePix getting to that. Munyon over there. Shout out to PrizePix. Please don't forget to use that promo code JBP, and we are all to the good. Back to whatever we were just talking about. Smash. Smash. Smash. This is my last point. I don't want to make. Make it dark or morbid. But it's always politics involved in this stuff. And rest in peace, Draco. Draco. Draco. I always pronounce the E. Drake. D-R-A-K-E-O. Like a Draco. Oh, I'm slow. You know, I can't read. I can't read, Mark. That's why I hired you. I ain't hear no Drake. Oh, it's not Draco. Look at that. Rest in peace, Draco. But you at the pre-show of Summer Jam. I've never done the pre-show, but I've been around it. You get two tickets. You get a couple. You can bring a couple of your homeboys. Whoever's on that main stage is going to get 500 tickets. I don't care how tough you are. You lose. Yeah, you lose. And that's all I'll say on that because I don't want to make this dark. But in rap beef, even if you think it's just lyrical, there are so many things to be considered. Who's home? Who's away? Who's on tour? Who's who with who? Who can hit a recording studio faster? Who can? It's just so many factors. Whose fan club is bigger? It ain't got to be your entourage. It's not a fan club. It's a fan club. Who love this nigga, yo? Yeah. Who love this nigga? Like, it'd be a lot of that. Yo, this nigga done did shit for me. My family, et cetera, et cetera. And you playing with, yo, his wife, we call her sis. You playing with sis like that? That nigga don't got to say a word. Right. Niggas that love him will go and, no, we not allowing that. How petty is the nigga you dealing with? We going to buy the first nine rolls of your show now and throw icicles up there. Again, we talking about shit. We going to bang them Smurf and throw the fucking chairs up there on the stage. That was a time. That was a time. I was at that. That was a time. That was a time. It's niggas that don't even know the artist. That nigga put me on the screen right after that. I'm like, what I'm going to do after Smurf did all that? I'm not throwing nothing. Niggas. I was calling Ebro. How could you let this happen? Change the screen. Tell the Ebro. What you say is? No, I'm saying it don't got to be your entourage. It don't even got to be nobody you know. It'll be, yo, when I was locked up, he was looking my man out. So I know he a stand-up dude. And as a result, you could just, again, be walking to the bathroom. Dog, when them Drake fans came to my house on Myrtle Avenue. They was kids. They didn't look like kids, though. That's the new age kids. They could have got something bad could have happened to them. Once I got to them and realized, oh, y'all don't have mustaches. Now I can't hit y'all. Right. But the point is, seven in the morning, I'm going to my car to go. That was when I was on my Dunkin' Donuts floor. I'm going to Dunkin' Donuts to get my coffee. I'm going to get coffee. Why are you idiots to buy my car? Right now. Yeah. It's just stupid shit. And if you ready to deal with all of that, then, hey. Have at it, man. Have at it, man. I also don't like the New York division angle that is somehow going to creep its way into this. Buffalo just got back into its bag. He's from Rochester. From Rochester. Rochester. I mean, what we going to cook? He's from Rochester. I like Rochester. Yeah, me too. I've always had fun in Rochester. They're a little special, man. It's just the best stuff. And they play out there. Yeah. They play hard out there. Like, that shit ain't, like, it ain't no motherfucking little layup. Them niggas is, yeah, them niggas go. And that's the fucked up part. Oh, yeah. Rochester shows cause plenty of fights between me and Corey, at least in my head. Like, where did you book me? Yo, where are we? Are we here? Now, these are good times in Rochester. No, we had great times in Rochester. Even the times where it was shaky. I'm going to sleep in the car. I wake up. We are in the house. The hood. And the hood is the hoods. Yo, stupid-ass Corey, come get you the mic in the car. Stupid-ass Corey, come get you the mic in the car. That's the sign to let you know you're walking through. Hey, you know what? You're walking through Rochester to get your pump, pump, pump, pump, pump. And we got to make it up. This nigga Corey is a lunatic. Hey, he had to pay the bills, right? Yeah. The mic in the car. The mic in the car. Now, we got to make sure the battery, right? 10,000 feet away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You cutting in and out. That shit is a mess. Shout out to Rochester. And shout out to the Rochester chicks. Because that's really what we go for. That's really what we go for. When you want some ghetto pussy. And we're going to talk about ghetto pussy later when we talk about Chattanooga. Oh, yeah, on the stage, Russia. Pretty lady. Very pretty, but. And she made valid points. I don't know whose side I'm on. But she did make valid points. She definitely did. What's a valid point? She made sense. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. No, nigga, no. Yes, we'll talk about it. We're going to talk about it. I don't give a fuck what none of you niggas talk about, nigga. I'm talking about this nigga. Nigga, I'm boss. Yeah. No, nigga. Don't call me that. You are their boss, nigga. Joe, nigga, don't call me that. You say you're their boss? Yeah. Not your boss. Not at all. It's my man. Who's your boss? At all. At all. No. I'm taking the stairs, nigga. I'm not your boss. Once they sign that contract, boy, everything changes. Let's get this. Which is the irony. Right. That's the irony. I didn't get you to talk about shit. Why you got to do that? Let me get my shit on. Go ahead, man. Go ahead. It's to bother him to get him in the mood to get out. No, flip. I'm not getting that nobody's word. You got to let it out. Yo, bro, bro, listen. Look at me. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yo, whoa, whoa. Ain't no honeybuns, boy. Let it out. I let you pass. I'm just not getting him in the mood shit. Now you need to let it out. Well, you got to let it out, man. It's not going to work. I have nothing to let out. I'm in a great mood. There's nothing going on. How could you not be? Yeah. So now we have Bleak versus Uncle Murder and Tony Ayo. Yes. I'm looking for the Bleak clip. OK, I have the Bleak clip. Look at that. The Ayo was up here. Ayo's thing has, what does he say? Jay-Z don't help nobody. Yeah. Y'all been going at it. Yo, say 401k records, nigga. It's called Holy Damn, homie. Drop some heat. Niggas ain't paying your bills, cuz. That's what it is. Niggas can't compete. That's why they talk like that. You, if 50 said one year, these niggas will be in the shelter. They shouldn't be allowed to talk about us or anybody when you literally are a dependent. It's a long clip, but I'm going to let it go just for context. OK. Hey, that shit is. That shit is insane to me, man. Like, niggas can't even wear their jewelry without their balls. Damn. Show me a picture of Yaya walking around with his chain, the passport chain. I got to see it. But niggas ain't taking care of niggas. You goddamn right they ain't. We taking care of niggas. I got to pause this just to highlight, that's an ill observation. That's on par with me talking about that little window. That's an ill observation to make, that somebody is not working. They're not wearing a certain chain. I heard that and was like, you peeped this? Fair. Fair. Oh, you're fair. Fair. He's right. I would have never made that observation. You paying attention to some shit. But anyway, I'm going to let it go. I've seen it, yo. I think I heard Yale say that you and Jayson. Which is crazy. He said you and Jayson. You can't borrow your man's chain no more. Is that over? Is that on the list now? I mean, you can. You just can't talk shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can talk shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't talk shit if I borrow my man's chain? I'm asking. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm asking, yo. It depends on what kind of shit you're talking about. And who you're talking to. Yeah. Right. You might have to tone it down a little bit. I think if you are saying you're a boss of all bosses and you're carrying yourself accordingly, then you. If you got your own fly chain and I just want to borrow my man's chain for that day, cool. But if you don't have a chain, and I don't know what these are. I don't know what these niggas jewelry collections look like, I'm just speaking objectively, then it's a thing to that. It's like dissing the niggas for flying in commercial seats, and the nigga look up, and you're in commercial seats. I'm not wearing nobody else's chain. And it's a little- That's what it's weird. No situation world. And neither would you, except for that when you're wearing that. But that was that, which is mine. That was a thing, though. Niggas wore niggas chains. That was a thing. That was a thing. In New York. That was a thing, yo. You were breathing like you was top-down, nigga. Niggas were wearing niggas chains. It was a thing. I'm not doing this with you, my nigga. What I'm saying is that, listen, I can't hear you. Your man trying to help you again. Listen, your man trying to jump in and help you, be a groupie. Listen, let me just say this to you. You weren't wearing niggas chains when you were talking about. No, what I'm saying is that they wore the chains. I'm the groupie. I wore a nigga. That don't make me a groupie. Your man. That makes you a little man. No, it don't make you a little man either. Yes, it do. It does not make you a little man. Big homie don't borrow people's chains. Are y'all putting an age on this? Hold on, hold on. I'm not being funny. I'm just saying old heads don't borrow. Rest in peace to Maserati Fox. One of the gangsters of the gangsters. Rest in peace, Fox. I love you. Rest in peace. He wore 50 chain. And then he had his own. That's not no son. Niggas give you their chains when you become a partner. You're not their son. I wore a web chain all the time. But you can tell what niggas do. So y'all are not talking to niggas like I'm coming in here. I'm not talking about that situation. But that's the only correlation. That's the chain that we're being born on. But you're also not talking to niggas that way. That's the part you're saying. I would talk to a nigga that way. You're saying something totally different. I'm not. People wear niggas chains sometimes when you coming up in a game. But you said, but the scenario that you just gave was, yo, once you become a fan. Once you become affiliated with this, we give you a chain. That's like a Rockefeller chain. If Joe came up here, it would be hard pressed. But if anybody up here had a chain. Yeah, because you won't wear the sunglasses I bought you. You want some pride shit. Put the fucking shades on there. You'll never get another pair of shades again. Stupid nigga. He still ain't wear it? Yo. No. How you know what I wore? He did wear it. You did. Tell me you wore them at Home Depot. In D.C. though. You had them in D.C. It do be bright. You know he had shades in D.C. You know he had shades on in D.C. And you know he had shades on in D.C. And lookers. And lookers. Bitch ass nigga. Anyway, go ahead. Yo, that's a totally different thing. Like if everybody got a Rockefeller chain on us, different. Then my man having a chain and I'm wearing my man's chain outside to do whatever. My question, is there an age limit on this? Yes. No, I think it's just a status thing. And to Mark's point, yo, the big homie don't wear the little nigga chain. I don't agree. I see niggas put chains on big homes. I see niggas take chains off. Everybody ain't the big homie. You're the big homie. I know. Then you can't talk like you is. That's all I'm saying. The big homie is a thing. That's a rule. That ain't, everybody ain't. Cool. We see big homies. But they don't talk like you are. What is big homie to you? Did Tony Ayo talk like that? Press play. I'm playing. I'm finishing the bleakly because we gonna fight. Friendship is just more, was more business. I've never seen it. Well, him and 50 friendship is just financial. You're both 48 going back and forth with each other. Sounds crazy. Yo, but I'm just saying it's like, yo, what do you want me to be? Yo, Jay, look out for me. It's good for content. I drop bombs. We just, we got a new song out right now, right? No more produced by Kool and Dre, moving. Mm-hmm. I'll speed up. Yeah, yo, record. I don't know. He's a dependent. You, of course, he viewed life through, look out for me. Mm-hmm. I never looked at, come on, Jay raise bosses, man. He don't raise dependents. We all bosses, business owners. No, I got a boss. He got a car and a restaurant in Vegas. Tell him, pull up and come eat. Everything free on me. Don't tell me to come eat. We on back and forth. We here. He said they go talk to customers. We got all that flashy as cargo, all that. The bill is covered. We feed people on this side, too. Oh, God. Nah. It's covered. He said, Jay-Z doesn't support men bleep the way 50 Cent looks out for him. That was the point. But how? Where's his records? Where's his businesses? Where's his, do we even have a, wait, let me ask you a question. He does. Do this nigga have children? That's right, Envy. It's the point we can do that. I don't wanna hear this 50 Cent shit and Jay-Z shit. My wife right here, we just came from Paris, rockin' the Chateau, my daughter was in there, was in the room Leonardo da Vinci built, you know what I'm saying? My son just was at night, one reasonable doubt. Where's these niggas kids? And you talkin' about somebody takin' care of you. Who are you takin' care of, man? Like, yo, we fuckin' 50 and you still want niggas to take care of you is insane to me. And the fans, online, think. No, he went off. He went off. He went off. He ain't throwin' that shit, dog. That was your first time hearin' that? Yeah. Thoughts, Mark? Mine too. That nigga had a smorgasbord. I don't care what's true or not, right now, we just talkin' about, as content and as bars, he fuckin' killed that shit. What? That's what's special. My family just left Paris. And he's right! That's what's special to do. Right. What? Come on, bro. Yeah, that shit was crazy. I love that. He's speakin' to the fact, 'cause like, any time somebody say somethin' to Yayo and Murda about, like, money, lifestyle, he's constantly sayin', yeah, 50 got us this, 50 got us that, 50 got us this, 50 got us in Dubai eatin' this, 50 got us, like, it's, so he's speakin' to the, Bleak is like, I'm not sayin' Hov got us over here doin' this, Hov got me doin' this. He put me in position so I could do it. Whereas y'all, he's makin' it, you know, it's apples and, he's basically tellin' you, we not on the same level. Stop playin' with me. Okay. The Yayo clip is long. I'm gonna play a portion. I'm gonna play a portion of it, and then I'll jump to the Uncle Murda tidbit that's flyin' around. That's 50 seconds. Boy, a lot of rappers, bro. A lot of rappers came to my house and got motivated. I had houses, houses, not a house, but I don't like to brag about money, I like to stay humble like you guys do. 'Cause I know a lot of people don't brag. And this is on Million Dollars Worth a Game, shout out to Gillian Wilder. Yo, you know, my passport changed. The 50's not around. Why we talkin' about change? That's all I'm sayin'. I don't see, y'all niggas got plenty of money, y'all buy cars and watches, like rich people do. I'm talkin' about change. Yo, you don't have the passport changed, niggas is watchin'. Because what it was is, Yayo came back from the dead, Yayo got a second wind, and niggas can't stand him. Sometimes it could be a nigga that's around you that can't stand him. Yayo got a second wind on his own without 50. I went on Vlad, yo, you buggin'. I went on Million Dollars a Game, that took me there. I went on Shannon Shaw, I went on all these big platforms by myself and sold my personality just like y'all do. But niggas are going to continue to hang. You had your one day on stage with Jay, which is cool, feel good. It was one day on stage with Jay, it's cool. So I know you're going to feel good about yourself, want to pump out your chest, do you want to sell a record? What you mean, what Jay just performed? Yeah, what Jay just performed. He had one day out. You know, we do that with 50 every other week. I'm not supposed to go out and get the money. We on a private jet, we even smoked up, we chillin'. Yo, you can't, listen. Give me another meal, man. Something else on the menu. All right, Persian caviar. We eat Persian caviar. We chillin'. I'm a homo nigga. I've never done. It's between Queens and Nassau. We deliver. All right, let me get to the. I'm a homo nigga, I never thought- It's between Queens and Nassau, we deliver. Alright, let me get to the murder clip. Nigga, bleak verse I ever fucking liked is the one that Jay-Z wrote, nigga. The only bleak verse I ever liked is the one that Jay-Z wrote. I ain't never liked a bleak verse that he wrote by himself. Fuck out, nigga. There ain't no Memphis Bleak fans like that, nigga. Why you sound like that? Nah, I'm just saying, back to that shit, nigga. I'm dead serious. Back to that. I'm on a thousand. I'm on a thousand. We got a bank account for bank account, nigga. And business statements for business statements, nigga. And we can do it next week. And let's check the transactions, you know how you can scratch it out? So nobody wire nobody nothing, nigga. Let's see how much money niggas really got, nigga. And check the safe. Cause we got the safe money too. I got a safe in the crib. And I just took my kids first class flights on Disney. We was in Disney World, nigga. I still shit with the kids, nigga. You heard? It was me and two other homies. And 13 kids. And I'm with the Disney niggas. Darts, darts, darts. First class. Darts, darts, darts. That last part. That's funny, son. I don't give a fuck. You responded to me saying I took the family to Paris. Right. Disney, nigga. I don't give a fuck. Teacups, bitch. Now, hold up. As a nigga with a couple kids, Disney's pricey. Disney ain't cheap. Disney ain't cheap. Disney is far from cheap. He said 13 kids. I start doing the math. Disney's far from cheap, dog. I know what I looked at for four kids. So, you might, that is a plus. 13 kids first class to Disney ain't crazy. It's probably more expensive than the Chateau in Paris. But it sound crazy. It sound crazy. I'm with you. Bush Gardens, nigga. Hershey Park, nigga. No, I get it, though, man. That's funny. This nigga's stupid. Oh, man. Don't touch me, nigga. I'm not down with you. Please, nigga, come on in. Don't touch me at all. I get it, though. I get it. Don't touch me. I'm not down with y'all niggas. That shit ain't chump. Y'all niggas is crazy. I understand. Disney is expensive. It is. He's not wrong. This is funny. You're saying the comparison to Disney and Paris. It just don't sound like a, you know what I mean? It's not. That's apples to potatoes, dog. Man. I feel like there's different, I feel like in each category, people looked at Bleak and said that, you know, Jay helped them, and people look at Yeo Yeo and them and said 50 helped them. It's just, I guess, like you said, it's a lot. I don't think that goes back to this. That goes back. That goes back to the whole line. Bleak could be one hit away. Hold up. Bleak could be one hit away his whole career. As long as I'm alive, he's a millionaire. So, in that line. So what? If you, sir, I'm just, that's what they handle. Okay, guys, hold up. Now, let me, but there's nothing wrong with you bigging your mans up that put you on. Now, that's what niggas forget. It's a lot of, everybody want to be a boss, but niggas don't want to be whatever the fuck that line is. I can't say it. A worker? No, it's a chief Indian joint. I ain't going to say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with being your man. No. There's nothing wrong with saying, yo, my man put me in this position. If it wasn't for my man, I wouldn't be in this position. I'll be here. There's nothing wrong with that. Niggas don't want to highlight that. Niggas got a lot of ego. Niggas don't want to wear sunglasses, for God's sake, nigga. Niggas don't want to wear sunglasses, for God's sake. These niggas and their egos is so, it's beyond the fucking world. Pick and choose who to have egos with and who not to have egos with. I just think it goes too far. There's nothing wrong with you bigging up your man. Yo, thank you, bro. My man put me on. You got to be comfortable within yourself to be able to acknowledge a nigga for putting you on. Niggas look at it as you a little man by acknowledging your man. You were just denying that Joe is not your boss. No, what I'm saying is that, you know, he writes your checks. No, I acknowledge Joe. I'm Queens flip back. I can acknowledge a nigga because I'm comfortable who I am, nigga. You stripped me. You ripped me from all this shit and put me outside in the motherfucking Central Park. I'm going to make a shake. But at the end of the day, I'm going to make a shake. At the end of the day, I can acknowledge that, yo, my man, my guy made it an easier path for me and made it more comfortable for me to get where I'm at. You can acknowledge that. Niggas is nuts. So let me acknowledge your shot because you were shooting at me. I was. There's not been a platform that I've gotten on that I don't pick up Joe. But. True. That's number one. You can do it more, though. Huh? That's a fact. You're right. What you're saying there? You can do it a little more. I did hit you right in the sack. You're right. Number two, there's a fine line between me appreciating and showing appreciation for somebody for assisting me and me cheerleading for them. There's a fine line. And so because somebody don't necessarily. So because somebody. What'd you say? I said, no, you're shooting back. No. How would you do that? So let me take him to school. Go ahead. No. So because I don't necessarily get up at every single interview or if Bleak not necessarily Jay-Z, Jay-Z, Jay-Z, Jay-Z, that don't mean that he not being taken care of by Jay-Z. Everybody don't got to do that in a public approach. I agree. We don't know what business dealings Jay-Z has did with Bleak. We don't know none of that shit. So to say that Bleak don't get taken care of by Jay or vice versa, I think it's corny for black men or older. Men, because these niggas ain't young to be like, yo, yo, your big homie don't look out for you. Yo, your big homie don't look out for you. Yo, I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because of my big homie. No, nigga, I got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I got outside and I earned it on my fucking own. That's what grown men do. I want to play this. I want to play this clip that Bleak Bleak quoted and said, this is he's proven my exact point here. Well, yeah, if if 50 stop fucking with niggas for a year, it'll be over. Nigga, I will be in a trap. What is you talking about? That's the part. That's the point. He meant. I think that line is being understood differently by the two parties. And that's what the problem is. I understand what he meant, though. He said, I don't know. I don't know what he meant. He meant I'll be outside. I'll get to work. Not the trap. I'll be. I'll say it again. I'll get to work. Yeah, I'll be outside getting to it. Not enough. You took the trap. It falls the hood. No, he's saying. No, he's saying. If 50. Stop doing whatever he's doing, I'll be fine because I'm going back to what I know. I'm getting a shake and I'm in the trap. I'm moving. He went on to say, that's where I come from. That's all I've done. He said, I'll be right on one for 50. God rule, whatever, wherever he said. And what Bleak is saying is. You won't have a legal means. Right. To earn income. And that's how I heard it. Like, it sounds like you said, if not for 50, I'll be back in the hood. That's how I heard it, too. All right. That's why I don't really love you as an example. And this is, you don't belong in this conversation. You did what you did long before. Like, it's not, it don't fit here. No, what I'm saying. I don't know what he's doing in D.C. You mean me personally? He build houses. That's how I know what he's doing in D.C. Well. Houses, nigga. So, no, what I'm saying is. If you're saying that if I lose this particular piece of income, I would be back on. He named a block. Yeah. Yeah. Which means. Because you are. I don't know if that means I'm outside. Outside. Or if I'm outside scrambling. But when you name a block, that means you're going outside to that particular block to do whatever you got to do to survive. That's how I took it. I didn't take it that way. I took it that way as well. And when you won in one interview saying, yo, 50 got us over here and you naming countries and shit. And then you turn right around and say, well, if 50 not here, I'm going to the block. That's acknowledging multiple steps back. But he said, I didn't hit the block. He named the corner. I got you. I didn't think he meant it that literally. Not me neither. Maybe I broke. But what you going to put a dry cleaners there? Like, I'm not. He's saying I'm going to be OK regardless. That's all he's saying. I know, but in what manner? Right. OK. That's the difference of. That's the difference in what they're talking about here. Surviving is surviving. We should not really set up for success. He's saying I'm going to survive. Cool. I'm going to survive. I know how to get it. I know how to go. I know how to eat. I'm not going to starve. I might not be eating that Scargo no more. I might not be eating caviar bumps no more. Like, the shit that you naming. You mean a Dorney Park instead of Disney. And that's why it feels like Bleak is saying you can't. Then y'all can't speak to me. And that's what he's saying. That's what he is saying. You don't see me around. And we would be saying the same thing of Bleak if every time we saw Hove, we kind of saw Bleak. Any time Hove did a show, any time Hove and B was somewhere, we saw Bleak. We would be looking at Bleak like Bleak would be one to hit away his whole career as long as he alive and a millionaire. For a lot of people. For a lot of people, they're only really seeing Yale and Murder when they're with 50. And I don't think that that's a bad thing. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. The negative connotation comes from, all right, well, what would be happening without those people? Murder named a bunch of businesses. Murder said, I got this. We got a dispensary. We got this. We can go business for business, band for band. We got a safe. We're fine. That speaks volumes. But the optics of it, right? Because nobody's thinking about Yale and Murder's fucking. And businesses in this optic shaming battle. The negativity comes from, it comes from the way Murder and Yale talk. Well, that's why. That's why. That's where it comes from. You have to explain this to me. Well, maybe they do. Yale and Murder started this. They were the first people to jump out and say, yeah, ain't helping these niggas. These niggas ain't about nothing. Bleak's Breakfast Club interview is a response. Response, yes. So for their response to be this when they initiated it, I just don't really know. I don't really understand that part. I don't get that part. And say what you want. I don't believe one word that Uncle Murder is saying about never liking the Memphis Bleaker. I just don't believe that. We got to burn his mind. Fire versus and fire. How old is Uncle Murder? He, we in the same age group. He said none of that bleak wrote. He's saying like the one that that bleak wrote, which was a bleak versus sauce all over the shit. But it's putting sauce on. She is the sauce off. Yeah, it's talking shit. It's talking shit. It seems to be playful. But it's funny. Yeah, it's all in the country. What verse did Hov write for Bleak? He wrote coming of age. He said that's the only verse he likes. Yeah, he wrote the two. Is coming of age. Coming of age. He wrote on Reasonable Doubt. His verse on Reasonable Doubt. Then he wrote the joint. Was that volume one? I mean, volume two. Volume two. Coming of age two. Yeah. He wrote both of those as far as I know. Oh, coming of age two. Yeah. Coming of age two, yeah. And that's it? He's written. That's all that we know. What's Bleak's best verse? It's not my business. He got too many. He got a lot. He got a lot. That's why Uncle Murda is saying, you came up in the same era. Bleak had way too many that Hov didn't have none of them. You was there for Is That Your Chick? You was there for- Do My Lady. Brown Hair. You was there for Do My Lady. You was there for Men Bleak Is. Men Bleak Is. You was there for Men Bleak Is, though. Come on, man. Stop. What's that, '94 or something? '95? Whatever it was. I don't know. My years are fucked. That's the '90s. No, Men Bleak Is is not '04. It's in the '90s. Men Bleak Is ain't '94. No, it ain't '94. Reasonable Doubt came out in '96. Yeah. You was there for him. Men Bleak got joints. Yeah, he got joints. That's all that matters. We can't do that. If Men Bleak were to do a versus against Yeo and Uncle Murda, I think he would feel okay. Oh, okay. I think Bleak would win. I think he would win. Yeah, I think Bleak would win. Well, Ice is going to bring up all of the G-Unit mixtapes. He ain't got to go mixtapes. It's just G-Unit records. Again, if you taking G-Unit shit off, okay, it's a different conversation. If that G-Unit shit is in there, no, it's not going to go that way. I don't know. It's not going to go that way. I got Bleak winning, but I understand Ice's point. It's not a crazy take, but I got Bleak winning, too. Bleak is on You, Me, Him, Her. How many songs we talking about? Bleak is on the Mindrite remix. He's on the whole Dynasty album. I was about to say. Oh, shit. Yeah. I got Bleak. I got Bleak. But I understand Freeze's point. But I respect Yeo. Bleak wins. He ain't an easy out, but yeah. Yeo has a catalog. Absolutely. I'm not all the way familiar with all Uncle Murda, so I won't speak on it, but- We got joints, too. Couple joints. We got joints. Yeo, listen, I'm out of this. Yeah. I'm out of this. They having a fucking band off. I'm going to watch. You have a business off. I'm going to watch. These are all three people that- They having the content off, man. That's really weird. Yeah, but it's three people that I think are extremely entertaining. They all good at it. They are. Back to the spec shit. This ain't getting personal. These niggas is having fun. Everybody up. They sit there talking they shit. Nobody's going to, "Yo, if I see that nigga, I'm going to go-" Yeah, I think Bleak could sit on an airplane seat in front of these two and be okay. Yeah. There'll be some jokes somewhere, but yeah. But that's good. That's good. I'm not going to say that. Yeah, I agree. That's what we want. And I love the content wars and the fun shit talking, as long as I stay here. Especially what niggas is doing to hire everybody healthy. Everybody healthy, everybody getting money. Awesome. Right. Everybody is entitled to their perspective, even when it comes to other niggas. Hey, you think some niggas that popped was a failure, nigga? So be it. Go ahead. It ain't my business. What else? What else in music needs our attention, doesn't need our attention? Come on, let's get to it. We're getting to it today. Can y'all explain this Usher concert to me? Okay. Well, well, it's the Chris Brown. I saw the concert. I saw Homegirl on stage. Yeah, it's the Chris Brown concert. It's Chris Brown and Usher. Chris Brown and friends. Yo, why y'all doing that? That's so disrespectful. Why y'all doing that, Newer Couch? I'm just telling the truth. What if he say Usher and Chris Brown, you know the concept? He didn't say that. He said it's the Usher concert. Well, he was, okay. Usher was giving a performance on stage. Got it. There you go. That's what I'm talking about. There we go. And I saw Homegirl, that he was, uh. Entertaining. Mm-hmm. Looking less than enthused. And at some point, he walks away and does the, like. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. Gabrielle Cheyenne is her name. Break it down for me. You said it. You said it. Yeah, but what happened after? I didn't hear her response. I saw the shit, and I was like. She responded a bunch of times. I was like, she look bored as fuck. Yeah, that's all I saw. Yeah, she's. She's basically. Oh, you got the clip? Okay. Yeah. Which clip? It's Matt. It's Matt. Like I said, she's been everywhere. Would you? I don't think so. I mean, it's not bothering me. I don't feel a way towards it. I don't feel embarrassed. I don't feel like this is ruining me in the public eye or whatever. No, no, no. Whatever. Because, you know, there's been plenty of trolls and whatever else. Oh, well, why would you do that? And you should be embarrassed. It was even people harassing me while I was walking out of the stadium. Oh, really? While me and my family was walking out of the stadium. People were harassing us. Oh, well, you should have did this. I would have did this. Were you available to go on stage? You'll go to TMZ one. Yeah, that was more after the fact. It wasn't that I was into it. I was approached first and upgraded to VIP. And they don't give you any instructions on who, what, when, where, or how. They didn't tell you they were going to pull you on stage? They told me that it was a possibility. Hey, I'm going to pause this. Hey, Harvey, you looking nuts. I don't want to say nothing. I don't know what's going on. I don't know if you lost your brush, your fucking facial cleanser. You look, you of age, buddy. Harvey look old as shit. And it happened fast. I don't know if y'all seen it. Y'all don't care. Anyway. The ability of me going on stage. But they didn't confirm that until it was closer to time for me to go on stage. And, of course, you're getting to go up on stage. Why would I decline that? People are pulling the narrative that I'm in a relationship or whatever the case may be. No one can tell me the reasoning as to why I say yes to getting. on stage, but you also don't know who you're going on stage for or or or with. I'm going to kind of pick up what you put down there. You said I didn't know who I was going to be pulled up on stage with. Why I say it, there are two people. There's Usher and there's Chris Brown. And that means that you were both on Chris Brown and you got Usher and you would have been more into it with Chris Brown. Am I reading this right? Me, Sully, I went to the concert for Chris Brown. It's nothing against Usher or anything like that, but I'm more of a Chris Brown fan than I am of Usher. So, of course, it would have been a different reaction with Chris Brown. It would have been the stiffness or whatever the Internet is portraying. So you, after what happened, happened, some of the fans. All right, we heard it. I mean, the black guy with the dress, I'm cool with him. So you said you had some problems. Do you, gentlemen? Yeah, you remember that? Do I remember what? Like back in the day when we used to bust a move, they'd be stiff with you. I mean, free as a bird. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. You know what I mean? It's what it is, isn't it, right? Oh, shit. Try to bait me, too. I'm chilling. My memory is foggy on that one. My memory's bad. My memory's bad. You still speak to her, too. I knew that line was coming. Cupcake, sucker for love-ass, man. Y'all, anyway. Do y'all think that this young lady is wrong for how she handled the situation on stage? What would y'all have done in that situation? Well, that's a little weird. Not y'all. I didn't give it all to us. I think that's the dangers of pulling random people from the crowd. Like, they're not going to necessarily know how to get down. Or they might not be, yo, he was trying to kiss her. Let's say she did have a boyfriend. Or let's just say she didn't want to kiss him necessarily. I don't think she's wrong in how she handled it. I don't think she's wrong at all. I can't say that she's wrong. I can. I don't think she should have went on stage. But if I don't know, I'm going to. That's bullshit. She tried to. She went up there and messed up the essential piece, part of the performance. That's what it is, to try to. Even if you didn't want to. I get it. You don't have to do it. But there's ways to go about it. And you could have not gone on stage. Hold up. Hold up. Slow down. Hold up, Freeze. I want us to attempt. I know we just old niggas up here. Let's attempt to be a little reasonable. I'm trying. This lady. Reasonable doubt, nigga. This lady goes to a show with her people. With what? With her moms. Go ahead, talk. I'm just saying. What the fuck are you? I got a spider on me or something? Yo, she was at the show with her moms. She was at the show with her mother. They moved them to the F.R. And somebody else. They were spotted and moved from their seats that they purchased to the special VIP area. Yes. And what you're saying, do you think they shouldn't have done that? She should have done that. We definitely going to the special VIP. And we're not asking, hey, who's bringing us here? We going to the section. Of course. So now, somebody say, hey, we bringing you to the stage. It's a possibility that we going to bring you to the stage. At this point, you know, that's why. That's why you in the special VIP area. So it's a trade-off. And you do know that as a fan. And not just that. You know that. You know, you've seen clips. You know that's a part of the show. From all, not just this tour. He brings a girl on stage. He do what he do. Feeds the cherries. You see. I'm talking about the Chris shit. She's a Chris fan. So she sees what Chris does on the show. You know, oh, we going to bring me to the stage? Bet. Like, you see the clips of everybody else going. Yo, you see the clips of the other girls. They be like, yo, oh, she didn't do right. Well, I would have did this. This is my time. She was ready to go. Let that Chattanooga snapper go. What? Crazy on stage if it was Chris. All good. That chatty snappy. Warm and brave. Take you down. Exactly. But see, all that's good to me. Right. But at the moment that you about to hit the stage. And it ain't Chris on there as an usher. Get the fuck off. Say, I'm not going. Go back to gym pop. No, you're not. Or just go up there. Or go up there and put on before. No, no. I'm not saying that's what I'm saying. Joe, what I'm saying is that's what she should do. Exactly. You either go up there and pretend or don't go up there. At all. Don't shit on my man's performance. Don't go up there looking crazy. Just don't do it. That's not fair to him. I agree. So let me ask you a question. You always capable for these movies, Joe. I think this should have just been a clearer. So what you're saying is that when Usher brings her up and he goes, because he looked like he was trying to kiss her. Yeah. I mean, he was just laying there. Part of the, I don't think. Chris be kissing. Come on, y'all. Come on. But I don't think Usher be kissing. Usher don't be kissing him. Chris be what? Shit. So my point is. Hey, Chris tried to kiss that girl. The internet start talking shit. And then Chris start closing the curtains on y'all. Watch this. Turn the lights off. The light's out in here. I'm fucking this chick right now. So if the girl wasn't in the. In the getting fucked mood. Yeah, mold, mind frame, whatever the case may be. You're saying she should have faked it and kissed him or did whatever. No, she should have. That's not what I'm saying. He said she should have got on the stage. I'm saying, I'm basically, I'm assuming everything she's saying is true. And that she said, I would have been into it. Don't go on stage. Forget kissing. I'm saying even just the way she was sitting there, looking bored and stiff. I'm, hold on, let me just listen to my thought. I'm saying, don't go to the stage. Don't put on a, just don't go. I'm not saying she should have to do anything with her body. She don't want to. I'm saying don't fucking go. Let somebody else go. But my problem with your take is it's extremely ambitious, right? The number one fear in the country for a long time was speaking in front of a crowd. Some people can't see it. Can't stand in front of a crowd without looking. She could have had all of that in her mind. Hey, I'm going to go up there and try that. But once she got up there in front of all of those people in those lights, usher sweating on top of you singing, can you handle it? It's a lot. Maybe you do have what, who knows? It's a lot to deal with. I agree. She's not a performer. Yeah. This young lady is not an entertainer. So when you pull from the audience, you get whatever you get from the audience. If it's a bad question, if it's a bad audience member, then that's just what it is. What's going to be happening is these niggas be up there with the horny eye. Come on, let's just call it. Let's just call it what the fuck it is. And the level of entitlement. Yeah, we've been to shows. We know what happened. You know how it goes. But we send Savon in the audience to get audience questions. People here that have been on tour, please speak to us so I don't sound like a maniac. Even when we're on a rap tour or shit, we bring people up there. Go out there and find women that will come back here, enjoy this charcuterie, and eat this apple juice that we're not going to drink. Some women that's going to go take it back to the double tree. I feel everything you just said. That nigga's giving up salami on tour? I wasn't, but Ice, Parks, Amani. I wasn't on a live tour with y'all when y'all podcasted. You've been on a tour before. These niggas be fucking on tour. That's just inaccurate. That is crazy. Back in the day, I mean. Back in the day. That is crazy, bro. Way back in the day. Joe, if shorty had said, I got staged right up there, I was nervous, I wouldn't have said nothing about it. - I agree, me too. - I'm taking a, no, I'm not saying, if you front a million people you freeze up right i ain't got no issue with that my point was that ain't what she said i'm saying if i take her at a word and she said i would have been different for chris then i'm saying if you know you would be different for chris and usher wasn't your thing then don't go up there and make usher look bad that's all i'm saying she said i froze up cool i don't think she made i don't she didn't make us she don't have the power to make us look i'm sorry that's not what i mean she she didn't it wasn't the performance that he wanted if at the moment the performance doing this to get her out of here he obviously wasn't happy wasn't it now it's viral it may be what everyone wants at the end of the day everybody wins everyone wins everybody wins usher got a viral moment now future concert goers know what to expect from usher said as well if you didn't know if you weren't familiar with the cherry and all of that now you know she's viral uh and before i have no look at brady yo and and in a lot of her response brady she was talking to and she said on the tmc shit she was talking to the girls in her hometown yeah because she said she didn't really care about what the rest of the internet and the rest of the world was saying hey you bitches back home y'all ain't shit and y'all ain't cute or pretty she's ain't nobody bringing you chattanooga hoes to a stage so suck my dick i'm all for the bad chick in her town dissing the town bitches i'm not mad at that i don't think this is a usher problem usher brown said hey i don't think the young lady wants to be on stage please escort her right yo i was asking how old she was because i was thinking like is this that first moment where do you realize you're too old for the young girl that's why i was asking it you know what i mean like younger like would she choose like chris can't look that young i'm sure she didn't like that y'all no not like that i'm not not like young i'm not saying i'm saying 20s i'm just saying this is the first moment where the girl say something else you in parks say something else because i caught y'all again i caught y'all again i put the gun away to save you it's a little you two play the same dog park a lot anyway i'm sorry about this oh oh okay oh you got something for me the african bitches right with the ass i already know where i'm at go ahead mark go ahead no but that's also that moment sometime when i heard her say that i was just thinking like yo there's this moment where you realize you you're not the young dude no more you ain't the sex symbol trying to clean it up in real time i'm following this one yo that's the point like hey i'm following this one behind y'all hey this one y'all hit this out the park go ahead i got nothing i'll say it to you mark i think the fact that shorty was like yo if it was chris i'd have been with it i think that's her prerogative yeah hell yeah you know what i'm saying i don't think she should be demonized for that like how do it feel to be the lesser light cousin what you're talking about when you go to family reunion you're like number two you're like the my family i'm like the second famous like the cousin with no tats i don't go to family reunions one and then number two i don't know that nigga what are you talking about and my family members that know us both i'm sure they love us both that's peace then that's peace all right i know that's it i just wanted to know hey man future y'all could just tell the girl who y'all bringing them up for y'all can prevent that honestly that's all that's it it's real simple so y'all teach for usher you with that word yeah usher's disrespectful too how so how because usher's from the era man he know what the show he know when it's a show what's going listen in vegas you see he did it the g the old school g way when i went to the vegas show hey joe you mind if i take your lady spin her around all right go ahead spin around i'm here that's that's it though you dab the nigga dab the nigga fucking cherries away with the way with your yeah yeah no cherries then i ran from that nigga cool brooklyn that's the end of that thank you usher for recognizing us great show you're a great showman we appreciate that then we wouldn't catch him at the barclays i came here and told y'all yeah the nigga seen seen again came to my side just gyrating his dick around staring staring like yo please go yo why why are we here niggas know what you're doing when you scour that crowd yo and the lights is bright from the stage so if niggas see something nice something fine yo and they be wearing fine shit to the show dog that's why i'm not going there chris brown i'm sitting my girl with matt and rachel or somebody i'm not going to that shit oh no we'll be in there do y'all let y'all girls hit the argument way to happen no any y'all no what'd you say mark did any y'all let your ladies go to the stage mark always take it there yeah you let your lady go to stage no oh okay but you asked these questions we want you to answer all right i said no before i said i i didn't sit front row i didn't sit front row with the usher show because i didn't want him going coming near the cherries i said like april you didn't sit front row at that other show for the same reason it wasn't that other show we went to johnny gill and them bobby brown was singing to your wife i know the fuck he was i'm not talking about the brown in 2026 mark no way i ain't letting you do that 2026 now we was at the jonesy show we was ducking that's the one mr dalvin in 2026 yes and 2027 and 2028 dalvin is on the list that's what i'm saying yeah fuck all right dalvin one of the niggas you were glad he just disappeared nigga go go away right go to a dark manor dalvin and them oh yeah and when we go to the uh mutang show my wife can't go to mf when pictures come out of him and his wife celebrating shit i send it right to my wife love that we love that we love when i send the pictures there every time that's why you in the gym oh shit i got it it's nuts i got it yeah anyway uh listen shout out to chattanooga bay uh i don't think you did anything nah i don't think usher did anything wrong in this but super entertaining boy the content streets have fed us this week they really have they really have fed us this week uh anything else in music that we need to get to we ain't cover summer jam i mean if you want to do something rock out that's blasphemous what that we ain't cover something no it's not only two people with it ice with it parks with it oh flip was there my bad i ain't mean to play with your name big dog summer jam is not you be everywhere that's my fault that's my fault you back there with your jbp chain nah never never yo split from it that's queen that's how you got in that's a mistake then period nigga i made a mistake thank you is this the first spot the first friday they did yeah yeah i know they should never do that again i see i took that the venue change the friday i said okay we might have got a better doing it on friday of course but they should never do that again combined everything to one stage and they should never hire zeus to be the primary source of income number one promoter bro probably there was like 40 minutes of baddies content up there it was the worst shit i've ever seen in my entire fucking life we jumping around i know but this is a terrible show so i have notes first thing because i i get there first i go get parks and we walk in together we go through the back whatever get through security then there's a second set of security yeah and then there's a special security there is yeah the back the true backstage real backstage security suit it up the red bow ties sensei jai and all that yeah which i have a nice tie-in later but carry on so it was like pun intended we were like oh shit this is about to be different back here now because they wasn't playing not at all they don't give a fuck who yo yo green band you're not coming back here i don't care artists i don't care so it was on it so it was cool um so we get up to the suite and we like is it me well first of all i told them is it me there's no lines outside this shit was empty dog this shit and we got there late what time did y'all get there probably 7 45 by the time we actually got there yeah we went straight from the pod so we got there dumb i'm like wow this feels weird for summer jam yeah we get up there so they're like oh shit i don't care i don't care they they you know flex is djing and they do a couple days cut the lights on and i was like oh y'all need to cut them back out yeah i'm talking don't cut the lights on no more it yeah it might have been 40 percent really yeah and they're posting almost sold out almost sold out so we were like oh yeah y'all y'all playing y'all are playing and um i think we caught conway yeah we caught the end of conway uh missed rock and special all his people and then we had to sit through an hour and a half of drill and uh records which is natalie nunn big natalie shout out to them respect on that for doing what they know let's go natalie hey our beef is squashed now they did it though i gotta say like they had a zeus step and repeat in the back they had one of the baddies girls back there with the mic what pose you hit him with i didn't hit any pose when you when you hit any pose but this is your shit though i thought this was like this is your bag normally was i we haven't watched like the last two seasons of one of them shows i fell off oh y'all slipping i fell off that's true so i you know i was like this is this is all the way bad but then natalie was like i'm gonna fuck this i'm gonna do my my big hit let's do it and then she did it and the whole crowd was saying this i'm like i'm just at the wrong i shouldn't be here yeah they knew all that shit they should go baddies probably had at least early on the biggest crowd popper tonight yeah finally carisha comes out and saves the day for me carisha was the the best performer the best rapper that i had seen up there outside of conway because he was early but like on the main 8 o'clock shit once Carisha was there I was like oh thank god she tore it down she did really well she did really well I was wondering what record she's performing is she doing you know is she trying to stay away from City Girls nah she did all City Girls nah she did all the slaps the she's like alright let's get to the song of the summer y'all had the Goyard bags on the stage she dances each grab the bag start they throwing money in the crowd brought Fat Joe out boosting his bag brought Lola Brooke Lola Brooke too shout out to Lola Brooke Lola Brooke been at the last 10 summer jams hey get out there I'm not mad at her at all but like it was a bunch of back and forth they would go from artists that we know G Herbo whatever to Natalie Nunn and them and then Carisha to whoever the next baddies group was it was like that it was this was Zeus production I thought this shit was streaming on Zeus even on the screens it was just Zeus like if you took a picture of the Jumbotron it was Zeus wow so like it was heavily Zeus it was a Zeus summer jam so me and Parks have been killing probably on the stage I mean probably Zeus summer jam on the stage that's when I seen Surf and Fetty and Al Bial backstage I said oh okay I understand what's going on back there once they came up we went up to the stage and this is where back to the bow ties this almost got me in trouble because the next Zeus group is a group of young men with bow ties they're doing like some ice spice four on the floor shit not very you know I'm not entertained by that and Rem stayed next to me and she goes oh my god it's summer time how could you be wearing a bow tie I'm like Rem Rem has anybody seen Rem has anybody seen has anybody ever ever say that again brother Parks no brother Parks oh no the funny shit Rem is from Patterson no today I'm there yeah today we out there bro oh shit oh Rem the other thing the other thing I noticed y'all they I don't know if it's because the show started late or the cause it was after 8 o'clock and Conway was still on stage yeah so they was cutting folks sets like bro funny didn't do Trap Queen bro Zeddy Will didn't get to do twerking with her friends wait why because they cut him he was in the crowd performing that's what you were talking about when it came out with the suit on and shit he's going through his run and you know Zeddy Will got records you know the records I would've rioted in there bro he's in the crowd I'm talking about in the 100 section he did most of his set in the crowd rapping with a spotlight on him and he yo the girls jumping up on the chair twerking he's smacking ass all that then the light just went out on him his mic went out he like yo no you lying in the middle of him performing pay the extra yo they had or somebody else said gotta get cut short twerking with her friends gotta come on in New Jersey Fetty didn't get to do like he said Trap Queen has to come on in New Jersey at least at least two joints yeah he did three of his own he brought Surf out he brought Albie out he brought Albie out brought Surf out brought Harlock out and um that was just a great moment or DaBaby had a good set too DaBaby had a good set I missed his set I was I didn't hear DaBaby kills every time he's at Summer Jam he's great performer he does we left after Fetty so you're gonna have to take it from there yeah they left after Fetty I had enough then and you don't leave shows early like that yeah Mariah The Scientist went out beautiful girl and they the girls in there hung on every word but I think she only did like two songs and she was right before Max and French came out how many songs did you want to do I'm just like somebody's got somebody has to take the show well they might have started telling them yo you can only do this well that's what I'm saying I'm telling you as long as she do that one everybody's alright I got that blue she did feel that as long as that happen we can all sing along like karaoke that's what it sounds like that's what it sounds like she was up there looking angelic with some shit on yeah like she did that did she move her hands this time or did she look shell shocked nah she just she be on stage looking like thug is right there she be on stage I got that blue it's like yo thug let this lady perform her song yo you stupid but um that's funny so then Max and French come out and I wish these two niggas take a nap they might have had 200 niggas on stage when do they sleep they don't they don't sleep they don't sleep they don't niggas slept for 15 years shout out to Max and French brought Remy out she did she did a couple joints and um then they bought your man out oh then they bought your man out who flipped who flipped man no your man what man Phoenix oh Sir came out Phoenix Sir I didn't see Sir shout out to Sir I see my guy come out talk about it Phoenix flexing oh you talking about dude that's not my man that's your man that ain't my man that's your man I don't fuck with that nigga at all Street said that's your man so I don't fuck with homeboy at all I'm talking with Street and I don't know him he could be a great guy I don't know him he ain't an artist though they brought him out and was like yo he gonna do the song that's even crazy to me you lose me that's where you lose me they keep saying the song yeah and he come out and he's performing that record I didn't know up until that moment this is the other dude from Shoreline Mafia which is a West Coast rap group I didn't know that either I had no clue oh shit cause you always see OGZ so I'm like wait oh this was definitely an A.I. song now you don't even rap like this like I've heard I know records what you wanted this ain't you this is an A.I. record that caught I don't know and you're trying to perform I'm familiar enough with Shoreline Mafia to say I'm speaking to it that's what I'm saying what's Shoreline Mafia they're a group it's two dudes from the West Coast yeah you've heard this guy rap before I've heard them I played a sleeper Hollywood off of YG's last album when we were doing sleepers featuring them that's what ended the sleeper I don't remember that song no no no they just did the hook you stupid that was that was the last sleeper to be played of this motherfucker Shoreline out of here rest in peace to sleepers for the whole day rest in peace sleepers but no but it is but it fucked me up cause I'm like wait that's dude this whole time he could go away oh no so you found you tried something else and it worked and now you just doing that and you became like a character of it he could go away but it definitely confirmed that that's an AI record for me a thousand percent did he perform it like could you hear him or was it just oh nah I was standing I put the video in a group chat but I didn't watch it yeah nah I was like oh nah I gotta record this for the group chat he's actually recording this shit but overall I mean we were starting off killing the show yeah they should not do that on Friday it got much better towards the second half towards the end of the show nothing that you said it was packed no I'm just saying everybody in there had a good time it was packed it was packed I know we talked about the light crowd maybe that was a Friday thing it was Friday in New York you kidding Friday after work did people drive there how many people looked like they trained it nah a lot of motherfuckers drove there all the parking lots alright good all the parking lots was full it was just it was just crazy someone got flipped running around doing his thing yeah yeah yeah shout out to someone I mean it was just it was a lot man we ran into the Nation of Islam you know they said they were fans and stuff like that shout out to them I saw Freeze chopping it up with them shout out to them he's having a blast over there they said they appreciate the love we show them well Freeze is I knew it they were cool but also Mia Bell shout out to Mia Bell she pressed Freeze she did she's like yo you know I heard y'all on the show when y'all was on my marrow and me being there you was like the girl whoever the girl is up there and Flip corrected y'all but I saw Freeze I didn't mean no disrespect I was just I don't know who she was she know that I wasn't trying to be funny she didn't mean it that way she didn't mean it at all she was like and she was fucking with Freeze and then this is the intro I see it next thing you know I see a video with Freeze next to her dancing to some shit I'm like yo what's Freeze trying to get a job trying to get another job man a wreck huh what no nigga alright and you left you didn't alright it was cool how would you know that's why I asked him he was there nigga Freeze was next I watched it on the stories Freeze was next to her dancing we was down in the pit I saw it he said was he a wreck Freeze got hard no Freeze didn't shout to me about it shout to me about it shout to Cass shout to Mero shout to the whole crew why is it why is it funny to get hard I've been waiting Dick Bills all week summer jam is crazy word Dick Bills going right to waste and I cracked a joke with the nation I said you know if you seen brother Freeze in front of the niggas they'd say Freeze don't wear his bow tie trying to throw niggas off that's what it is that's what it is you should wear the bow tie I'm not when Freeze throwing his bow tie and his gold jacket boy today's mask is being spoken and also it was good to see Surf my first time seeing him I've seen him a long time you know what I'm saying you know what I mean give him a hug I love Surf man I didn't even know he was there yo somebody tapped me I turned around I was like oh shit it was good to see Surf man to see him come out on stage in Newark get that love from the crowd that was great they gotta move that shit back to a weekend they have to they have to hey I'm still stuck shout out to French man French asked me how I got in this room and shit like that I ain't like that that's my man but how you got in here who let you in here but valid cause you don't never have credentials to where you be at the JVP nah never the JVP he was like yo I was right there never never that's not happening he ain't made the call never but French said though that Flip we could do content but I'm not doing all that crazy shit where you grab shirts and be like nigga French I haven't grabbed a shirt in about five years nigga I had to tell that nigga and I know you see the content that we on the podcast cut that shit out but it be the jokes you elevated you did I can't say nothing you said what I said you Elevated you did I can't say that was fucking I told you that I told you that when he was so much Oh, we're over there. Yo Queen slip won't come I say I'm not cool cuz he coming on this bullshit. That's back in it Yeah, that's what they just thought about. I'm just saying that was it was just funny. I just found it funny, but that was awesome Okay, he said boop-bop thread in there be oh that was our summer jam review Man who stayed in the arena? They can stay there, but just have it a little bit better, but they filled out met life when it was there wasn't A different relationship they have different lives different landscape different music business a lot was different bag. Yeah, it's different politics involved You're not gonna get the Headliners anymore for summer jam that you could back in the day, right? They don't give a fuck about that shit. I know y'all was speaking about summer jam I said, uh, no, let me take that. I was talking about said he will what up Y'all saw my Remy popping out shout to my sister Remy. Oh and I shouldn't do this at all But I saw Remy on Angie Martinez So I just want to play this real quick Plug in my shit Celebrity crushed this is cute Skepta is the celebrity crush. Have you met him now is weird because I was just weird. So if you met him now I got like I like it. I'm you know, it's like a lie. Oh, I'm slow down Unsufferable right now for like the past. I don't know how long they all keep trying to like play matchmaker It's the creepiest most gross thing ever. Are you single now? Is that what's happening? I'm single single That's why we're trying to set you up. Yep. That would be cute You I don't date image why I was in the same situation almost 20 years I was at 20. Holy you even know how to date. No, it's terrible. Have you tried? No That's all I got I just wanted to hit the round of applause That's corny to do it but I got I mean it is how I feel I'm disturbed if she put the name on the back No, my thank you. They're cleaning it. Yo, I've been waiting for this day, but at least three years Yeah, I know It's corny nigga shit and I ain't above niggas on any that call me corny. I don't get I Could not be happier about it. It's fucked up It is fucked up. Why do it? It's just in the world. Yeah, stop. Don't please don't put words in my mask I saw a nice to take some person it wasn't and make it a thing It ain't about him being worthy or not. Love knows no bound. Yeah, so you love that's who you love And just didn't love it and I didn't love it the matching Eagles jerseys I didn't love it every battle this nigga up there. I got Remy my Does it look like they was in it for two different things? And when you coming out of a serious relationship, whatever that rebound relationship is when you go do it I just back up a little bit because everybody should get a rebound relationship And that's what it looked like I'm not saying that's what it was got it I'm saying that's what it looked like like so for her to say I'm single and my friends is trying to hook me up with Skepta It's the head. All right, my sister. All right, man. Stop playing with my sister. We baked we baked we did the rebound shit Yeah, I mean we back in our that's that's that's that's where we need to play it That's where we need to play. That's none of my business. Now. I'm on some honey bun shit again, but look but I was happy about it. I was that's all I got. I love you rim. I hope to see you at my birthday dinner See that's the thing - yes tricky. Mm-hmm. I want to see Graham at my birthday dinner. I wasn't sure Take us some else fucking myself in trouble mark And that to make this all the way serious, but have you changed your tune on there being no? Foul play in the Noah Wells case you keep asking. I never said that she did. No, I didn't what I said was When they when initially was reported I said we shouldn't this is when it first happened I said I'm thinking from a parent perspective The internet I said I didn't feel comfortable reporting on all the speculation that was happening because we didn't have enough information I'll be irresponsible of you. Yes, I'm irresponsible and I don't want the parents to have to hear all these crazy things That may or may not be true He said wait Let me finish But you're lying Do you think it was five playing you said no, I don't think it was fine You did Showing it right now. Yeah, that's not the same thing I completely understood what he was saying At just just because this group of kids went out this one didn't come back. They did. That's all we had at the moment That was not enough That is what Mark was saying. Yeah, and I said, let's keep looking. That's what he was saying And then the very next episode you weren't here cuz you were have time did the very next episode. I get a lot of money I know I know man Joe's good to you Oh, I said the very next episode I said Could you ask me the same question then I said yet now there's a lot more evidence not specifically. Oh, I asked you that before Yes, that's why I'm this is a bizarre conversation Then the night by the next conversation. Yeah, I know and I pointed to the parents response I pointed to the judge mom being a judge. I said her her response seemed a little too scripted and a little losses but you were back for this time and I Talked about Some other things with the cell phone to miss it didn't add up to me But the idea that just cuz you go missing and there's some white people there to me isn't enough to say well Let's start saying these awful things happen to the boy because we didn't know yet But I said, let's keep digging. Mm-hmm. And once the parents said let's dig Then I'm like, I'm all I'm all aboard with it. And I was also now we've seen the autopsy, you know There's some questions around the autopsy. There's some there's some questions around this the throat miss I've been reporting on this every day on night school leaked audio The audio audio is crazy. There's so much stuff to raise flags that I'm suspicious I still don't know the answer but I'm suspicious if I had to if I just had to put my money somewhere I'd say something it happened that we Something happened different than what was reported a thousand percent. I have no doubt about that now But when when something jumps out, I just don't like the internet jumping. I think like a parent that's all which is that's all yeah The audio sound crazy, so what happened was, you know, they called to have their boat Toad yeah, and you know, usually when the call picks up They didn't realize that the AI was recording them before the person came on the phone So they were being recorded before the person actually the operator came on the phone and what you heard was is he dead? Yeah, he's dead and he's dead. Oh Nolan. You heard that and then the lady came on the phone He's a right shut the fuck up and it's it's disgusting. No, it's a bunch of sentences. It wasn't just one thing Yeah, I mean, I was a little dialogue like getting eight different lines and they were saying No, he's dead dead like yo Confirmed it and was like yo, what are we gonna do? I think one of the sentences I don't want to misquote anybody was yo, can we cover it up? Here's the thing here's the thing for me though, and I talked about this the deeper thing is that I Said eight seven eight kids actually white kids There to keep a secret or trying to keep a secret of what happened to this black kid if you understand what I'm saying like that shit is way deep if you look at To it in the whole history of Mississippi that shit it just is still going on to this day You know, usually you have a situation and somebody cracks. Yo, that's what happened. These niggas is keeping a secret I don't know what type of shit they into over to me. My mother's a judge We got we hire up. I'm being basically or I can't say definitely I'm allegedly being walked through this by professionals that know where evidence goes where like, you know I'm saying like we know what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that is It's a bigger message that that shit is passed down to them that behavior the lack of compassion and all that shit Usually in a situation. There's somebody that tell you like, you know, this is what happened Oh my god, you know me the fact that all of them are silent and all of them are sticking to a story is deeper well, when I heard that audio and and the white boy was like Hey, we're members here. I was like, oh, yeah Yeah, this gets deal. This is a little deeper now Mm-hmm, because now it's it reminded me again of I said this already, uh the Murdoch's the the Murdoch's in South Carolina when you say we're all members here that tell me everybody parents friends Associates is high ranking into some shit And now there's a little more to protect than whatever y'all just went out on a boat and did Again, like Mark said we'll wait for more details rest in peace to know wells, but it all smells fishy it Does and flip yes to your point. Were you saying, um, everybody keeping a secret somebody usually say something Well when you being not saying they are we don't know for sure, but we some there's an assumption that they're being coached They'll tell everybody yo, this is cool. As long as y'all all stay on board. Nobody say nothing. Yes, like it ain't just one person Shit is like a movie to me watch your honor the TV show great show. This is literally a show Listen, I got two more quick sad news stories to get to And we could move on in our idiot of the day. We have Kamal Padlowski Kamal Padlowski is the white man who got into an argument with somebody on the boat dock oh shit pushes man pushed him he fell hit his head so he was unconscious and then Kamal Padlowski dragged his fucking unconscious body into the water and add insult to injury kicked his other sneaker into the water and just walked off watching air bubbles come up he's been convicted of second-degree murder in the homicide of Melvin Montero Jimenez so yeah I just want to say that he said I think I killed my but he was drunk I think I killed my best friend they were friends they were friends he punched him knocked him out fell on a dock he dragged him and threw him in the water shit is on video it's a sense it's sick ain't that much drunk in the world word I should have sober you up quick yeah how drunk you were right lastly we have and he only got second degree yeah well you didn't intend yeah I dragged him in the water and threw me and left the drunk part might have something to do with that I don't know I'm just trying to guess cuz you right that seems that seems burglary yeah one yeah yeah lastly I didn't get the names on this one and I'll try to find it as y'all talk but the the young white woman who did the Netflix friend going around who said hey I'm about to do a documentary about my soon-to-be ex-husband who I recently found out is a Sarah Duffy Oh Sarah Duffy rest in peace to Sarah Duffy she did that on the Netflix shit and the husband mm-hmm came over there in a murder-suicide and now they both not here yeah my god yes extremely morbid and they had a kid I think two kids but I want to check on the rest in peace to death that's a one that started the trend of that no no no she participated in the stress she didn't start the trip so she sat down in the chair said let me tell you about my ex-husband who I just found out is a pedophile what I want to ask you how do I say this to y'all he was a basketball coach and he was of a woman's girls basketball team and was head of relations with one of the players allegedly or maybe not allegedly I'm certainly not victim blaming here because that's sick yeah that is absolutely sick I do want to implore people to think about the real life ramifications that participating in some of these trends can have I'm seeing far too many stories about people participate in a trend and then somebody's spinning and murdering everybody or not not not just the trend part just the exposing part yeah like because you use a trend to expose so it's you put in you don't know how people gonna react to being exposed yeah that shit is dangerous it is very dangerous it's dangerous that's all that's all I'll say yeah well speaking of exposing see this WNBA shit no oh man what'd you do I went for four prospects with WM oh I'm sorry but um so player yeah let me get a name right I want to say the name I got it up with the WNBA they be riding so Chicago Sky her name is Dejanay Carrington she from Chicago they be riding on us yeah they deep so Chicago Sky her name is Dejanay Carrington she put a post up and says his motherfuckers want to be funny today I'm gonna be hilarious anytime a girl writes that you're done you're done it's all the beans are spilled nah nigga it's on fire yeah they're not clear yeah when they're not trying to be hilarious dog no when you hear that run run she says yes Nalissa which is her ex-girlfriend aces forward Nalissa Smith few of them on that aces cheated on me with Deja Kelly and Aliyah Nye plus plus plus many more yeah I did the same thing the exact same there's a couple hitters on them too boy boy boy them rookies and yes back to outing and how do y'all feel about outing outing I hate outing it's disgusting nope nope nope no outing no I mean reading it like when you see it I ain't a fan of none of that shit you too mature of a podcast though no you don't like reading a good story now now all of a sudden he likes it you wouldn't even know who that was if it wasn't for the outing yeah I don't like the outing part I was just thinking, I think it's classy, classless. I think it's tacky. And it's harmful, too. Yeah, but people, they hurt. They trying to harm. So she exposed her girlfriend, basically. Her ex. Ex-girlfriend. Okay. And said she was running through them out there. Okay. Ex got good taste. I'm about to say, I just think sometimes it has the reverse effect. Like, you can get your ex hot out here. Super hot. Yeah, and some people that don't give a fuck, you got cheated on. But the ex sounded like it's some, you know what I mean? That's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible. And during All-Star weekend. Yeah. During All-Star weekend, this comes out. Come on. What a distraction. Yeah, right? What a distraction. How could you expect her to be your best? Do we want to, where are we at on time here? Two, 15. We're at two hours and 15 minutes. I ain't heard a peep about LeBron. That's a good point. I'll push the mic away, and Ice and Mark can do it. Look, Mark has this thing now where every pod, he's going to come in here. And tell us how great the Sixers are. That fucking Sixers ball is still sitting there. Yeah, it's all right. Of course it is. It's the Sixers. Why wouldn't it be? We're America's team. Well, it should be. All Knicks are at the ring makers right now. We in the diamond district designing the ring. So, I mean, have your ball. Go ahead. What do you got to say? The Sixers are America's team now. Tell them. Wait. They just announced. They just announced. Listen, listen. First of all, we've always been America's team. South America. Oh, my God, yo. Look what we had to listen to. The Sixers. Have always been America's team. We had the 250th anniversary of America, my nigga. America was started when? 1776. We had to fill it up with the 76ers. Huh? And who did we get on the 250th anniversary? LeBron James. Mark ain't even said the word America in 250. That's a fact. Who y'all get? George Washington. It's the old last. They just announced that the Sixers got 34 nationally televised games. What? 46. I thought it was 34. It's 46? I read 46. I thought it was 37, but we got- Don't matter. We don't have a lot. A hell of a lot. A hell of a lot. But the point is, it's the maximum you can get under the contract, under the current TV contract, which means that they are all in on the Sixers being a team that you got to watch. That's a big deal. Must see TV, baby. And we ain't going to disappoint. I'm just telling you right now, we ain't going to disappoint. So give the poll. I mean, there was a- Hey. There was a- Pause. Oh, shit. Whoa. I paid a fine. I'm paying extra on that one. I told you he'd eat the honey bun. You're right. You're right, Flip. Hey, child. Give the poll. Oh. They ranked. Oh, yes. Bleach Report and other outlets ranked the best rosters in the NBA from number 30 to number one. I can't believe we have to- And I want to congratulate the New York Knicks on having the third- On winning the championship. Last year. We're talking about this year now. That was two months ago. The season's over. That was it. Another season hasn't started. Awesome. Off-season. We ain't got our rings yet. That's cool. Yo, listen. Check this out. Y'all was so surprised y'all didn't take them for a while. Freeze. You and Mark keep fucking fuming this toward me. Pause. Right? But I don't have a beef with y'all. I used to be there. You get excited about off-season moves when you're trying to build a contender in a championship team. That ain't where we at. I don't know why Sixer fans keep looking at the Knicks. Y'all should be looking at the Celtics. We always look at the Celtics. We look past the Celtics. I keep hearing y'all bring up the Knicks. Don't bring up the Knicks. Don't bring up niggas with jewelry. Because the Celtics got jewelry. They can't bring up the Celtics. Don't bring up nobody with jewelry. Celtics got jewelry, but- They can't bring up the Celtics. But look, the point- But they got a reason to do that. They can't bring up the Pistons. Of course. That's our long- That's our long-time rival. Who can the Sixers bring up? I'll tell you what we can do. Nigga Mark gonna come in here at a workday talking about, oh, we got Dean Wade. I know. I said KCP. I said KCP. KCP. Don't even ask KCP. No, he was Dean Wade last week saying that this nigga was just the neutralizer. I didn't say he was the neutralizer. We got Anthony Simmons. It's a lot. What I'm saying was, you asked me what power- The Sixers have the best starting five in the league according to a lot of experts. No, they don't. Let me finish the sentence. No, they don't. According to a lot of experts, they do. I agree with the experts, too. And I agree with that. That's why they had a six-day hanging on two weeks ago. They know. What'd you say? That's how good we are. We got him to put back on the Sixers jersey. He hasn't done that yet. He did. You don't believe that. What? That we had the best five? And that's what it means. That's where this nigga just- I think the Sixers have an elite starting five. Magic and Six. Word. Magic and Six. Don't say the Knicks. Atlanta and Six, maybe. I think so, too. Itch told me earlier he doesn't think the Sixers will win 50 games. He said they're in the high 40s. I think that's crazy. Your number wasn't far off. You said 53. 53 to 55, I think, is reasonable. I think that's a mature- Because I'm accounting for injuries, chemistry issues, all those things. Do not account for injuries. Oh, I am? Because if you start accounting for injuries, MB going to play 40 games, and that's going to leave LeBron and Dean Wade. That's y'all five. How many- Nah, because Anthony Davis is on the way, too. Oh, well, that changes. And they got Huck 40 from the Knicks. I like Huck 40 as a third. string center Joe a third string center I said yo who y'all bigs this Nick said Boma I almost jumped off the balcony so that's not what I said but the Sixers no what I said was that's our backup what I said is every prediction I have for the Sixers is based on them being healthy and playing 50 healthy for me that's why it don't matter what he said oh that's why it don't matter but the Sixers just to be clear the Sixers won last year with 45 games with Paul George missing a ton of games for injury and that suspension Paul George our best player and Embiid and Embiid missing all them games you just talked about so if we won 45 last year without Embiid and then you add JB and LeBron exactly JB and LeBron and a deeper bench and shooting Anthony Simons is a shooter KCP is a 3 and D guy yeah I know he is I'm just saying we added talent I think we're more than three games better than we were last year listen trust the experts that's why they're the experts exactly and trust the process trust the process 53 to 55 games we're going to finish top three seed in the East and I think we do I think we and I think we kill in the playoffs a top who? a top three seed gotcha first round exit you don't believe that I do believe that you think the Sixers will have to be a first round exit you going to bet on that? Mark do it yes or no? yes okay how much you want to bet right now the Sixers will be a first round exit whatever you want to bet 5,000 look at him 5,000 5,000 is that fair? now take it back that's what you don't think of talking shit back it down back it down no I want to bet on my team yeah mute your tight shirt up boy yeah you better look up to the sky mute up I want to bet on my team do you have the Sixers beating the Knicks next season? we can bet 5 to 10 grand on that immediately beating them what? right this second beating them what? beating them in what? I'm saying I'm sorry Michael no you're talking about regular season or playoffs I'm asking you you're talking about no because last time we bet on who had a better regular season record we can do that too regular season record and playoffs we can bet both 10-10 I wouldn't bet that because I'm not predicting that I just said we're going to have a top three seed in the playoffs then why when the playoffs can we talk? 5 and 10 15 and 20 anything you want to do please don't run don't call out don't go to Martha's Vineyard don't go to your other content house don't go to none of that have I ever ducked a bet from you? no you pay not even talking about paying I'm talking about even making the bet I bet on sixes every year against all odds we ain't won 50 years I still bet on them Mark people that are brilliant in most areas got to be stupid in some you're just making my point my point is I ain't ducking no you're not ducking then that's all we got to say pay it up pay it up chase to chase my boy send that shit right through we'll see y'all better not play the magic in round one I'm telling you no I'm not he going to pay me they could get out the first round he going to pay me I ain't saying I got to see MB be healthy I ain't saying that we could win the first round without MB being healthy I think they got a bunch of players that do the same thing they all guards and that's what I told them I don't think the Wizards of Well could have struck that team we not done yet we not done y'all don't want money y'all got three y'all don't have what do you mean you're not done just watch just watch watch what you get KCP and that is your team there's no other maneuver and you're done buy salary cap you're finished y'all got three max players bro just watch KCP wasn't supposed to fit when you get when you get LeBron James and a team that is supposed to be a winning team you could go get a whole bunch you could go get a whole bunch of 40 year olds that want to play with their man but you get people off waivers you can get size off waivers you can get 3 and D off waivers mid-season you can get people off waivers that's what I'm trying to tell you just don't be surprised so what's going to happen when LeBron go to Jalen Brown locker and say yo what's that shit you were saying about my kid again nothing so not chemistry issues whatever issues and Philly should know about chemistry issues I keep letting that Eagles story that's been confirmed fly by but we called it a few years ago I told you it's been confirmed I think it was Chris Broussard and you told me too I don't know nothing about A.J. Brown and Hassan whatever issues they got that's been resolved before LeBron got here that's all I'm going to say that's all I'm going to say that's what took so long to get this shit done we got to make sure we straight up but what I did think was interesting is LeBron's not going to be living in Philly you heard that he's going to be commuting from New York well you've seen the Philly houses I don't give a fuck where that nigga live at have you seen real with his tip off paws why was that a shock I didn't say it was a shock I thought it was interesting you all imagine LeBron in a row house that's all we got all we got is bandos LeBron no everybody move to South Jersey they get some big shit or the main line he'll be in New York he's going to be helicoptering in every day they said which I think is dope I think that's fly you know what I mean but when I think about the helicopter fees and all that shit for a four million dollar he ain't going to make no money he wanted to be a Nick so bad you can tell he wanted to be a Nick LeBron ain't going to be making money in New York that's why I enjoy that's why I enjoy this position y'all in pause about being excited about your off season moves I used to be there right as a Nick fan today it feels good to know that Giannis was begging to come to the Knicks begging was he yeah it was his first choice begging waiting y'all ain't want to break up the chemistry waiting well Cat showed out and then we won the chip they even put the report out while the playoffs was going saying hey the Bucks are winning the game we're still waiting to see if the Knicks choke to see if something happens so it feels good knowing Giannis wanted to be a Nick Rich Paul said hey if the Knicks didn't win a chip LeBron James would be a Nick for sure that'd be the only team on the list it feels it's unfamiliar but it feels good for the Knicks to say hey big dog we good we not star chasing no more I think that's dope we good and to do that coming off of a championship yo I'm talking championship talk there's nothing for you to say in this I think that's super fun I'm talking about when your team wins a championship in your lifetime Dr. J ain't there we won one in my lifetime Dr. J ain't there we won one in my lifetime Moses Malone ain't there Theo Ratliff who else y'all had Theo Ratliff yeah Eric Snow ain't walking through that door buddy it's over I know I'm just naming niggas now I know I'm just naming niggas the Sixers anywho what else is important unimportant needs our attention don't need our attention I want to run something by y'all right so there's been a in the educational educated Twitter educated black Twitter there's been y'all know what I'm talking about that's not a diss I'm not talking about the story you think I'm talking about there's been an intense debate about this Talladega dress code have y'all seen this no this school is basically saying all the students have to go I know you saw it all the students can't wear do-rags and shit right no do-rags no bonnets he don't see nothing he sees everything he's on threads no do-rags no bonnets and no flip flops I think to school to school and there's like bonnets flip flops do-rags do-rags yeah and this is kind of a thing at HBCUs a lot of times Morgan State had one before in a business school other people have it where they had to wear you had to literally wear suits to class is this school HBCU yeah so and the idea I'm torn about it you know what I mean because as an educator I'm like yo I don't think you need I don't need my students dressed up to go to school I don't think you need that but I also feel like going to there is value to it to get preparing people for a world and I feel like sometimes every time we tell black kids to dress up there's a bunch of people who got good jobs and good money telling people that it's a bad idea and that we're just doing it to please white people you know what I mean and some people are and I hear that but it's not always true and so I I struggle I struggle like black folk have dignity and professionalism without white people you know what I mean but I also don't want to worship a dress code and believe that you can dress your way out of poverty dress your way out of racism dress your way out of all that other shit so it's a complicated I know y'all people say I take both sides on it if I had to take a position I would say I'm against dress codes in school I am too but I understand I don't want to demonize people who do it so I was just like how do y'all feel about dress codes in school either for the kids or for and this is college oh it goes farther actually I'm torn I'm torn because you could live on college campuses and have an 8 o'clock class and you've been studying until 2 in the morning and the last thing on your mind is what the fuck I got on so you could throw on some sweatpants and a fucking whatever and haul ass across campus to be there on time so I but you know they gonna say that's when you gotta go to work no that's not true because when typical person that works a 9 to 5 and they not up at 2 in the morning with a strenuous 18 credit schedule where they busting their ass to study that's not always the case right so I think that what about I see both sides I think that and this is the whole thing behind corporate sometimes or dress codes and clubs when niggas used to say yo when you got hard bottoms on you're less inclined to get into some physical altercation you're less inclined because you're in a different mind frame you better not them boys slippery that's not good so I see both sides I think that you are preparing your kids to carry themselves in a dignified manner I don't necessarily know if the wave caps and the bonnets convey that so I I'm torn I see both sides it's tough I'm muting up on this for obvious reasons but my I don't know nothing about none of this college stuff but my question to y'all is do y'all believe uniformity leads to uniformity do you understand what I'm trying to say no no no I see I don't think it's a uniform thing I do because it's not a uniform they just saying your answer is yes you do believe that and you're saying that is a uniform thing that is a uniform thing that is a uniform thing it is a uniform though no it's not it's not we've got everything we all got on a dress code is not a uniform a uniform is all of these people are wearing this same exact thing right so the uniformity thing kind of takes away your individualism so i don't necessarily stand in that but i do understand it's like when you go to the military the military cuts your hair and you do all of that shit because i want y'all to operate as one i don't want you to still hold on to who you are because now we teach you how to perform in a unit or collective um i think that a dress code is not uniformity so i don't think it applies okay i i agree with that i think uniforms though or dress codes still lit can limit your creativity i agree yeah you know what i mean that's what i'm trying to say yeah and there's a kind of uniformity that comes it's not uniform but it's it's still it's it's a certain certainly a certain kind of genre of dress that you could wear it's a mindset that you're preparing somebody that you're conditioning somebody i mean you're trying to tell people the real world though like like you said every time this happens there are people that come out with great paying jobs that'll say hey i got this great paying job without this but that's a minority that's not you the overwhelming majority so you can you you kind of setting them up for failure a little bit because if you think oh all right we don't need this we could go out any kind of way and everybody could go get a job up here making all this kind of money well no everybody can't it's gonna be a little bit harder whereas there are companies that you'll make decent money at but they will have a dress code yeah and you don't want to tell a kid fuck all that you could do whatever you want to do and you're guaranteed to succeed you're kind of selling a false image there you're giving false hope so i don't like that idea of nah yeah everybody's seeing this but the outliers the exception to the rule becomes the rule when people start talking i think it also i'm obviously staying quiet for obvious reasons as well uh i think it's also weird though at a college level where it's not this is not high school this is not some mandatory shit i'm paying y'all yeah that's a good point y'all not gonna tell me how to dress but y'all paying but y'all to prepare me in the club too but look y'all are paying me for to prepare me for the next step right i'm not gonna tell you how to dress i'm not gonna tell you how to dress right and they don't want so y'all not just giving me the education y'all giving me the tools everything i need to succeed at the next level i think that's part of that is gonna come with the physical appearance i agree i went to state school man we're wearing all that but that's an interesting point parks because i think state school is different you know what i mean and and i've taught at state or state sponsored schools and all that stuff and i would never expect a dress code yeah but the hbcu mission is different yeah and so we say we're like family here and we're raising you in a certain kind of way that's part of what you're doing and that's part of what you're paying for in the same way like when you pay for like military school you're paying for a certain you're paying somebody right yeah and i'll stay if i'm paying for public school or a regular private school i'm not paying for somebody yelling my kid but if i if i were into the military which i'm not i would want that you know you're saying from the parents perspective yes yes yes and the kid i'm saying you're buying into the program when you go to hbcu and part of it is to say we're going to love you a certain way we're going to discipline you a certain way we're going to prepare you a certain way because yeah and some households when you go in there so you're great they'll ask you to take your do-rag off or take your hat off so it is a rule true i understand what they're saying if they just talk about do-rags and bonnets and no flip-flops i can see i see that's not that's not nothing too it's more than that i looked it up more than that and to your point that you're paying hey most private schools that you i'm talking about elementary uniforms or private schools period but that's different because your parents are paying for it as a college student some people's parents paid for their college obviously oftentimes they're not though no but you to go here so i'd wear what i want talking about to the school i'm saying the same thing the student whether it be your parent paying for whoever you're paying to go to this school but that's very different because back to your point if as the parent i'm putting you in this school because i want you to be in the uniform in all this shit if i'm an adult which a college student is i am paying for this unless your parents are paying which yeah your mission point is different strong yeah mark's mission point is strong like if you know if you go to harvard you're not only going for a bunch of other things that harvard represents and presents for sure so if you're walking around and you're at georgetown or if you're at howard or if you're at morgan state and you want this school to project certain shit and you got everybody walking around with bikini thongs on they're legal you could wear a thong i that's not necessarily the message that we want to be sending at this institution i just love that when you said bikini thong i'm on his head what up mark i really appreciate you bringing on this hbcu uniform topic to the pod while you're on absolute fire out there for smoking on that pan i love you bringing us this topic that's peace and then to your platform bringing on that shit that's sizzling smoking this boy is good yes you are mark let's do it give it to us man nothing about the read in this email that you got to book or whatever you were like oh this will be a healthy good well that's the wild thing right i saw this video come out of with jamal pastor jamal bryant talking about that situation which i am brian and and this dude and and i um i saw the internet do his work in like 15 minutes they had dudes uh linkedin up they had his phone number they had the email his gmail account that was used for the university for the school dog it was upgrade he had on yahoo before that oh shit and so i was like i said to myself gotta book him yeah i said gotta book him that's what he said oh there's a layup yeah it was a saturday night my wife got him in the scope yes my wife had gone out she left me unsupervised i had like a good hour we'll get back to that yeah i said you know what i could let's see if we can book him and i was like he ain't doing shit he doing nothing i said when are you free he said what you doing now see i was like oh let's go he don't that's the thing and so i i assume anybody who had the balls to to make a university and give out degrees has some game i actually expected it to be a like a like a job like a duel yeah yeah i thought i i liked my chances but i didn't think it would be like this like that yeah but then when he said you know give me five minutes to get settled and i opened up and he was sitting in front of a project or how apartment building with a with a gucci shirt on and waves no i mean you're the university president we just talked about uniforms and shit and he clearly didn't go what was your first thought when we cut the camera on and saw him sitting there he's got he that's what he said i was like make sure this shit is monetized double shake monetization on youtube when i saw that thing i was like oh this is about to go up because mark mark i do do think mark is a diabolical shady absolutely oh yeah yeah but there's no way that mark could have known the gold that was about to come no that's what i'm saying how could you have known that shit was like falling from the sky when this yeah and mind you all that he emailed me the degree he emailed me all that shit right before we started so i'm reading it as i'm doing the interview that's why it took me a second but like i was like you giving me this shit and then every question i asked him like i said because i looked at the diploma and i saw two signatures on the left and the right and they look similar i thought it was his wife so i was just like who's the vice president i thought he would say my wife when he said it's me what nigga i didn't see that shit coming nigga that's all you can say yeah i couldn't believe what i was watching i saw it at like eight in the morning i watched that shit this morning but it seemed it seemed like homeboy still while he was actively in the blender didn't know really or didn't care that's the problem with narcissism sometimes you know what i mean he was repeating you'd rather be in the spotlight jousting than out of it looking normal so like you don't care in that moment and you think you're winning when you when you you know talking to him was like talking to my teenage daughter well you know like and i don't mean that with any disrespect just teenagers oh yeah what i mean is like when you talk to teenagers all you gotta do is ask them one more question and that that next question always gives you the answer you really want right now yeah that's gonna tell you exactly what you need to know are there gonna be adults at the party yes are her parents gonna be there no who are the adults 21 park your little ass there yeah exactly would it would the parents be there all night well no they're gonna all you gotta do is ask one more question you get everything you need to know if you know what to ask and everything i asked him just one more question we did a special degree for her well how many degrees have you ever given out one then he says in my defense we've only been open since may thank you that shit was funny bro it was amazing i was like marcus finding a low hanging fruit right now but i'm entertained but honestly at the end of the day i think that interview helped cheyenne bryant because if you if you get to the end of it you realize she had nothing she had nothing to do with it she didn't she didn't ask him for a degree and like you said and he was because when i talked to him ahead of time he made it seem like they had coordinated together but again you should ask one more question that picture them together was when he was an extra on love and hip-hop i believe so i mean her team came out saying like mark's right like we don't know him so you can you can't blame her for that that's not on her no it's not yeah so that's what i'm saying like just one more question that's the lesson the journalist out there just ask one more question just ask the extra question oh my god bro that was a mess but i was entertained that was a mess but i mean i identify i shouldn't be the distributor of degrees either because it will be a lineup yeah you can give it out degrees for you more people that would have some degrees this thing made a whole school that's crazy that is crazy before umar wow this shit open they're giving shit out wow it's a joke wow don't disrespect umar like umar shit is real this dude has some shit fake yeah i love the fucking way is your mark came in here after the umar school shit they'll go i'm working to school shut the fuck up to this day as soon as the school was i'm gonna work out Umar invited you to come down and speak at a school or potentially give a class in audio, visual, whatever. You wouldn't do it? I would have to think about it. I'd have to talk to Ian. You have to ask the white man? Why you got to talk to Ian? I run all my affairs through Ian. I know. The white man. I thought Ian worked for you. He does. So you don't make that. That's part of it. You make that final call. You hire people that are knowledgeable. You know the final callers? Would I come to a class at Umar's school or speak? Gotta see, man. Y'all said y'all would work there, like be the janitor. I would volunteer there. I would volunteer. I would teach a class. I would teach language there. You know what's funny about these niggas? I'm trying to make a joke, but I do believe them. I believe them. 100%. They got good hearts. That good heart shit is overrated, man. Nah. I'm telling you. Who the fuck would want that? So why don't you go to the Jesuit school of Indiana Southwest and do a class? Well, then I'm there. As soon as they get a website, I'm there. Do it online. Do it virtual. They ain't got a website. Send a Zoom link out. You don't say that to anybody. They got Gmail. That's true. Yo, he said he was charging $75,000 for doctorates and that he had 250 students. You got his contacts, though? Word. Hold on. I think he was lying. I'm sorry to go for me. Maybe he'll give me a discount. Yo, but that's not a bad hustle. You do bulk? What time? And if I'm going too far, you can tell me. I want like six PhDs. What time did you stop being on? Oh, shit. I just want to know. That's my last question. She came home in time to see the interview. She got home like a. That's a good question. Maybe like 1130, 1145. Was she proud of you? She was cracking up. We usually don't watch this stuff, but she just thought it was funny. She thought it was ridiculous and funny. I'm surprised I didn't hear her in the background. No, that's the best interview I've seen in a long time. Fire. Shout out to Mark. That shit is absolutely crazy. Who's your next Vic? I don't know, man. Who are you plotting? I'm not plotting nobody, but I'm working on some other. I want to do some investigative stuff. I want to be like the Pablo Torre of. Bullshit. Of black culture. Oh, I'm so glad that you got a bright future now. Or you got Mike Rupin. If you go talk to him. Nope. about what Topps may be up to. Like, is LeBron signing to Topps now? No, no, no. LeBron is signing to the Sixers. A player that caliber for four million a year going to Philadelphia of all places. He wants a championship. I wonder if he's a top. He wants to bring a championship to a team. Is this some Topps stuff going on, you think? No, no, no. He want to bring a championship to a team. Like, you think his fanatics deal has changed any? Yeah, we got. Or maybe LeBron. That should be your first case, you crap. No, no, his first one's going to be Jalen Brunson. I'm still on this Jalen Brunson thing. That's the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still trying to hunt for that ring. Yeah, look at y'all. Yo, you see they still got Kawhi hemmed up. They can't even complete that trade because of Pablo Torre. Yeah, I know. Yo. Shout out to Pablo. Shout out to Pablo. I love Pablo. Ish don't fuck with me. He just don't like that shit. He just cooks Ish's grits, man. Ish hates that shit. What? He burns him up. I know what you meant, but nigga, when? No, no, he's upset. Ish doesn't like how he moved with the Kawhi Leonard investigation. Oh, got it, got it. He thinks he's basically a rap bastard. He's a rap. He called him a rap bastard. Oh. Yeah, so I get it. I mean, I don't agree, but I get his frustration. So you just got time. You just want to, you know what I mean, do some new investigative work and get your shit off? Me? Yeah. Yeah, man, I want to develop some new platforms. You know, I think we need, I think all of us need to kind of branch out, do new shows, do new platforms, find new ways to go. Just doing new shit. So that's going to be my new shit. Anybody here have any thoughts on the new Black Panther they announced? He looks, he resembles. What's his name? I don't know. The British dude, right? Yeah. David Johnson. I didn't hear. David Johnson. David Johnson announced as the new Black Panther T'Challa's son. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think the casting, if he can act, I haven't seen him act. He can act. It was a no. He can act. He was, I only seen one thing, but if, Long Walk. Yeah. But if, the casting is amazing. He looks like he's related to him, bro. Yeah, but they can't, they got stuff using British actors for, she got some from Wakanda. Like, the casting, they couldn't have found a better person to resemble him. So if they get it off, they get it off. They said that they shot away. He got away from, uh, Damson because they said he was bigger than the role. Mm. I don't necessarily agree with that, but. That would have been an interesting choice. It seemed like that's the choice everybody was waiting for. Yeah, they were calling for that immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were calling for Damson. But. I don't see why. I don't think he was bigger than the Marvel role. I don't think anybody's bigger than the Marvel role. In there. Not Black Panther. Not Black, yeah, so. When is Black Panther 3 supposed to be released? 2028, I think. Oh. Yeah, 2028. Well, January of 2028, right? December. 2028, all right. Well, I'm going to see. I support Ryan Coogler. Yeah, that's what I'm sure. I don't care who he had. Like, honestly, his credit is. I can't even think that far. We got Dune coming up. I ain't thinking that far to 2028 when it's Dune time. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Let's see it, bro. What they going to do? What they going to do when pun come? Come knocking at the door. And it was. Yo, so I heard that Christopher Nolan has two brothers, and one of them is a hitman that hasn't been seen in the public in 25 years. Really? What? I know one of them is right. I think he wrote Memento, or one of them. He wrote something. I cannot confirm the hitman thing, but it is something that's been floating around. And judging by Nolan movies and Nolan's mind, it makes perfect sense to me. It just makes perfect sense that he would have a hitman brother. Yeah, it tracks. That's it. It does track. It does track. Anyway, speaking of hitmen, unfortunately, there's no more sad news, but everything I hear about David. Lock him up. I just want to. It almost makes me not believe in due process. Right. Like, this shit is disgusting, man. It's like every detail, man. It's like, this is like the nastiest, ugliest thing I've ever seen or heard in my life, man. Yeah, I have it written here as David is a different type of evil. Yeah. It's a different type of evil. It's a different type of evil, dog. It's sickening. Yeah. It's sickening to hear the facts, hear more facts. I got thoughts on the parents. I got that. He went to church with them and shit like that? Yeah, man. We'll wait for due process. Everybody deserves due process. Yeah, everybody, you know, but it's just, it's just, it's just. But they got him dead to rights. They got him dead to rights. They got. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All the information you could possibly have. They got the whole route. They got the lie. They got when he took her cell phone and text himself. They got the cell phone coordinates. They got the text that say, hey, I'm pregnant. Hey, I'm blowing you up tomorrow. Nigga, you done. They got, they got it all. They got the motive. They got how. They got your, your Uber Eats order of chainsaws and whatever the fuck you ordered. Swimming pool. Yeah. Inflatable pool. Inflatable pool. Chainsaw. Dog, yo. This would be the greatest framed job in the history of the world if he's not guilty. I'm not saying it's not possible, but when they, when they, when the prosecutor put forward the evidence to, to show that they had, you know, enough cause to move forward, this shit was, I mean, I've never, I've never seen anything more overwhelming. The tweet a week later talking about DK. He's a sicko, yo. Word. Like, go sit him up. Yeah. The only, I'm about to say, the only question is whether he has an affirmative defense of, you know, mental illness. That's the only thing he might get into. Cause, cause it's so sick that you could almost say like, no, no, same person, no same person could do, could be this depraved. That's about it. It's hard to argue stuff like that when there's so much premeditation. I'm with you. I'm with you. But I think that's the only argument he has. That's the only game he, I don't think it works, but I think that's the only card he has left to play. I agree with you though. I don't see it. Isn't there a high bar for insanity? It is. It's pretty high. It's pretty high. It's pretty high. Mental illness isn't enough. Cause like 80%. Some people in prisons have some form of mental illness. It has to be like severe, severe, severe. It's tough. I don't see it working. I don't see it. Get them out of here. Yeah, man. I say lock the parents up too, but whatever. You say what? I say lock the parents up too. I don't know the parent's story. I don't know enough to have an opinion. They're saying that her parents were aware of their relationship. I think that's what he's referring to. Yeah. And his parents were too? Yes. Oh wow. And again, I don't know. I'm just getting the details as they come out. But if you, if you learned it, and again, I'm not, well, it sounds like I'm blaming you. I don't want it to sound like that. If you learn that your 11 year old daughter is dating the 18 year old artist, taking the phone ain't it? Facts. Taking the phone didn't do nothing. Sorry. He shipped a new phone to the school. Now you're like. That, that didn't. Didn't he? Didn't he? Didn't he? to be more action taken in that moment for whatever reason it was not and it has to be your mission that that was their last communication yeah i don't i don't i don't get that but that that go on today just being a lot of things i don't know that's that new newer parenting thing of being my kid's friend like it's a lot of people that that i don't really think it's that no i'm saying a lot of people a lot of people don't want their kids to not like them so it's like i want to treat you a certain way and it might have a conversation take your phone but i'm not gonna go too crazy because i don't want you to hate me as your parent your job ain't to your kid's friend. Now that part I agree with. It's a lot of that happening. Or not just their friend. It's a lot of that happening though, bro. It's a lot of, you know, relaxed, I'm not going to say discipline, but relaxed just enforcement because I don't want my kids to hate me. Look, man, let's move to something serious. Yeah, please. We haven't talked about Mom Donnie. God damn it. We haven't talked about Mom Donnie in 15 minutes. I love Mom Donnie as much as the next man. Not more than me. That's true, that's true. Nobody loves Mom Donnie more than me. He just announced, no, no, I mean it, gay. Play. I know. He announced yesterday that he's going to open five new grocery stores that will be available for 30% below retail for all the people out there in New York, all the poor people in New York. So just shout out to him. Oh, great. Shout out to them. But I got beef with Kyle Kuzma. Did you see Kyle Kuzma coming for him on Twitter? Yes, I did. I did. I'm not a shut up and dribble guy. I want all the athletes to come out and speak and speak their mind, but don't sound stupid. And when you look at what he wrote, it looked like it was made with AI, man. I don't know what Kyle Kuzma's up to. I don't like- Kyle Kuzma said, for the people that don't know, we have a mayor trying to act like a president. Exactly. And he's not. He's simply doing what he's supposed to do. It's his job. Nobody should act like the president. You know what? Could be worse. Right, right. Like, yo, you just are responsible for a smaller land mass in a smaller area, but you still are kind of running it based on the needs of your constituency. Yeah. He was trying to say that he was, he said because Mondani was talking about arresting Netanyahu when he comes to New York, that he was saying, that's not in your place. And Mondani said, that's not my place. He said, I checked the law. I'm not allowed to do that, but we still don't want him here. You're allowed to say that. And all he was doing to me, Kyle Kuzma, was chirping and responding to what all them right-wing people were saying. And people called him out on it. Rosenberg called him out on it. And he clapped back on Rosenberg, basically told him you only get to talk when Ebro lets you talk. And he clapped back on some other people. I responded to him. Quiet. Like a mouse pissing on Kyle. Oh, now you in the scope, Kyle. So. Now we interviewing your arm, nigga. Tread lightly, Mr. Kuzma. Oh, now I get, I just did the math. You said you started your new investigative series. Oh. You know what time time you on? Oh yeah, I know what he on. Big more. I like it, I'm not mad. You're gonna find where the body's buried. I'm not mad. I had a quick question for y'all. Yeah. This don't have nothing to do with nothing, but the dude Ashton, Ashton Hall, sat with Cam Newton and said that he didn't do the, he didn't, he didn't end it up, he didn't end up doing a partnership deal with Saratoga because they didn't offer him equity. The internet started killing him over it. Just a light topic. Where do y'all stand on, on this, on what he should and should have done? I mean, should and shouldn't have done. What were they killing him over real quick? The fact that he. Well, the internet was killing him. How dare you approach a company that's existed since 1874. Got it. And ask them for equity rather than taking the pay, if it was good pay, and just putting it to wherever you saw fit or taking the money and investing in the company if you believe in what your addition's gonna do. I mean, you miss all the shots you don't take, man. I mean. I don't think he was wrong for asking for it. Yeah. But I wouldn't not do any deal whatsoever because they didn't give me equity. I don't think. I mean, I'm not in his shoes, but. I mean. You already did that. People are crazy. You did it all. Advertising. You might as well get some money for it. Yeah, and they were willing to pay him. But, you know, some, you know. Man's had 444 playing and just was like, you know what? Yeah, niggas be hearing people talk about equity and they automatically assume that that's the first negotiation position you take. Yeah. You gotta build up a brand and a name and a following and an audience to be able to go in a room and demand equity. I wish he did. Oh, you could ask. If it doesn't work out, when he did what? Yeah, but people, people, a lot of people. The guy with the water, putting the water on his face, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He built, I mean, he built. He built up what? He built a following, nigga. Not a following that you could go in and ask a company that's 200 years old for some equity, eh? What type of following does that look like to you? Not that. You need a following that can move. What I'm saying is that he built a following. I mean, yeah, but I mean, we all have a following. Followers and a following are two different things. You know that, right? That's a Nike for equity, though. That's my thing. And I'm not saying you're saying that. I'm just saying, ask. If they say no, be cool with it. I only got an issue with him if he were outraged that they said no. Nah, you do the business. I mean, he said he didn't do a deal with them because they wouldn't give him equity. Which means there's a level of delusion there. A lot of delusion. And I think that we get led by people like Joe Button can ask somebody for equity because Joe's built up an audience over the last 20 years prior to him just jumping off the porch. I think that if Ishan, I started a podcast and for us to go ask Fiji for equity, I think that's a miscalculation. I do, too. But I'm just saying, I'm not going to drag him for that. Yeah, you can try. If he's willing to make that miscalculation and live with the consequences. Oh, true. I'm not dragging him. I don't think you're doing that. But if he went on Twitter and was like, fuck Fiji, or fuck Santoga in this case, then I'd be like, yo, you wild. You have a right to ask. I came to a podcast 10 years after it started. And I wasn't afraid to ask for equity. And because I got it, you know what I mean? A lot of people would say that that was a crazy move. But you got to do what you got to do. That's peace? Yeah. Shut your stupid ass up, nigga. Shut up, nigga. I'm serious. What I was just saying. You said he built up a following. He didn't build up a following. He built up a bunch of followers. That's not a following. That's not, they don't move. That sounds like hate to me. It's not hate. It's not hate. Impact from a following is different. Like you used the Joe example. Joe has a, legion of, he has a following that I can move to this company and they will follow me. Yo, don't interrupt Freeze when he's bigging me up. I don't think that dude, I don't think. Fuck you, nigga. Yeah, like. But what I'm saying, hold on. I don't think that dude, if he decided to say, yo, fuck Saratoga, I'm going to this water brand over here, that everybody's going to buy that water. Got it. That's not, you don't have power like that. That's where the equity comes in. What do you base that off of? You have to show it. You have to build it. That niggas don't, I get it. I get what y'all saying. It doesn't hurt to ask. He sounds like, that's it. He didn't get it. But some people are going in and asking too. It don't hurt to ask. It never hurts to ask. Worst thing a nigga say is no. Well, it's not true. It's nothing that's happened to. But a lot of people, I think, are hearing these conversations that the higher up businessmen are having and are saying like, yo, yo, you just taking a deal? We don't take deals without equity. So now, in their mind, thinking even at the lower level, I'm walking right into the big company saying I want equity. I agree. Well, guess what? No, my nigga, that's not how it works. And it's also not fair. I mean, as a business owner, I can tell you, I've had people ask me for equity, particularly, or in a couple businesses. And I'm always like, I spent all this time building it. I'm almost insulted at the ass. No, I'm not almost. I am insulted at the ass. Which could shoot yourself in the foot when you start talking about negotiations. You're going and asking for equity. Yo, get the fuck out of my office and leave the door open. Now, there are people who have asked me who have worked hard enough to deserve something. I'm not saying everybody's in that boat. But I've had people come in out the gate. I'm talking about like the first day I meet them. Like, hey, I'll manage your coffee shop. But I want equity. But I want equity. I want to own this percentage of it. And it's like, dude, what? You just came here yesterday. I'm certainly not going to kill nobody for asking. Ask whatever you want. Facts. What I will say to Ashton is big fish, small pond, always better than big fish, big pond. That's all I got for you, buddy. Thousand percent. Big fish, small pond. Go take rinky-dink water. That's what, should've did. I would've gone with it. Put that shit in every video. Get them an audience they never saw, never seen. All of their little C-suite niggas blowing away. Oh, my God. All of that shit. For all of the followers to freeze this point that you have. Put this product in front of their face. They'll be impressed in a way that Fiji won't. Or Saratoga won't. Or go to Signature. Signature's big, too. Let me not say that. But just anyone, anybody. Another option. If you really believe you are. Make your own water. And it ain't hard. I know a nigga that got one. Like, dog, niggas is making their own waters now. You know a nigga that made his own water, for real? Yeah, Alkalot Water, too. Two people. No, you don't. Yes, he do. Yo, come outside, bro. I'm joking. But no. Shout him out. You can help him. It's not even that hard. What I'm saying is, if you really believe that you are entitled to equity in a company that big, you could just jump off the porch and start your own shit. All right, let me get some equity in your company, nigga. Hey, yo, let me get some equity in your company. I don't have a content company. Nah, fuck the content. Nah, we want a piece of that style ish, Paul. I want the real estate. I don't have a rap company. I'll take over your house. I was trying. Rap traps. Nah. Nigga, I'll come there and take over your old shit. Oh, yeah, hold on. That's Pop's house you're fixing, right? It's almost done? I love Shaka Garn. Yeah, you want to see my Pop's house. You see the new pictures of Shaka Garn? New pictures of Shaka? I didn't. She did a new photo spread. It was a new video because she redid through the video. On fire, like. On colors. I bought it, yeah. It sounds great. Oh, and listen. He only watched it. Oh, you want to play with it? It sounds great. Hold on. You're missing out. No, no, no, no. You're not understanding. He's not following. He's got the hots. She's in the Jackie Robinson widow category is what I'm saying. Oh! That's what you said. Always been. Yeah, but she's going to run her mouth to the old hoes. Yeah, that might work. Joe, Joe, Joe. You fuck Shaka Garn, now Dionne Warwick know how big my dick is. The point is this. - Now I gotta fuck Gladys Knight. I do not need Gladys Knight No my dick's hot dog I'm sorry I'm cool Yo y'all are fools man Good time today Good vibrations man Listen Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast As much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you Keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there Until the next time We bid you adieu Farewell Adios So long goodbye A simple head nod will suffice Listen remember life is a series of moments And moments pass So let's make this one last As if it's all we have Last but certainly not least The baddies are insecure The stagnant women want to travel And the closed minded women want you to teach them things Grab you a Tylenol A Tylenol you might need With that said Uh What y'all on this week man What's happening What's happening What's your week plans Work work work Work work You know what I'm gonna say Oh mixing it all Oh I'm gaming with my girl Oh I'm going to speak at a Mom Donnie's panel Oh What are you doing there Hot shot I know Hot shot What you doing What you doing Sitting in the house Watching docs Sitting on the dock Hey How you doing Actually I'm Yo this is what we doing now On some straight loser shit We just starting every show that exists In the house with my girl We starting shows Watching four episodes Leave it Go to the next one So why don't you go watch I'm on episode eight We might We might I just learned that she never saw Billions So now So now We gotta go back I was late to Billions We gotta go back We doing old show night now So that's it That's fine But I don't have nothing planned man She out of town this weekend She gotta go College She gotta go load her daughter up into college Shout out to Naeem Congratulations She loading him into college now But Friday Cause this weekend In Mississippi She got low on the cost So she gotta take a flight out there She gonna go to Mississippi for the weekend Yeah I know She come right back She can't Can't fool her She'll be right back But I do get a little Friday night To just unwind It's nice ain't it Unwind Yeah Unwind man That's all I got That's all I got man Yo I can't wait for this summer to be over I ain't gonna lie I'm one of them niggas I can't wait For September 22nd To get here Fall Cloud Gloom Doom Darkness Yes First week of September Send these kids back to school Oh my god Get they little asses Out of here I can't wait Enough of these kids That's all I got man Y'all be good out there Hold it down Until the next time Ego No Joe Buds I've never heard of Joe Buds I'm from the web and nitty era It's the network *gunshot*

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast opens with a comedic discussion about jail culture, specifically the "honey bun" myth, where eating a random honey bun left on your bed signals sexual consent, leading to crude jokes among the hosts.
  2. The hosts transition to a major hip-hop topic
  3. They debate whether 38 Special’s actions stem from entitlement, noting his frustration over a failed Jadakiss collaboration and his risky references to Roc Nation affiliates, which could have serious consequences.
  4. The discussion shifts to a beef between Memphis Bleek and Yayo/Uncle Murda, centering on loyalty and financial dependence. Bleek criticizes Yayo and Murda for relying on 50 Cent, while they defend their success; the hosts analyze the nuances of acknowledging a mentor’s support.
  5. The episode includes lighter segments

Summary:

The episode of the Joe Budden Podcast blends humor with serious hip-hop commentary. It begins with the hosts joking about jail rules, particularly the "honey bun" myth, where a honey bun left on a bed implies a sexual advance. This leads to crude but playful banter about prison life, though the tone shifts to a more analytical discussion of recent rap beefs.

The main topic is 38 Special’s diss track aimed at Jadakiss and Jim Jones, debuted at Summer Jam’s pre-show. The hosts criticize the track for its underwhelming beat and execution, arguing that 38 Special missed an opportunity to make a significant impact. They particularly condemn his decision to diss Jim Jones’ wife, Chrissy, viewing it as a low blow that could escalate tensions beyond rap.

The conversation explores whether 38 Special’s actions are driven by entitlement, given his frustration over a failed collaboration with Jadakiss, and they warn of potential real-world repercussions. The episode also covers a feud between Memphis Bleek and Yayo/Uncle Murda, debating themes of mentorship and financial independence. Bleek argues that Yayo and Murda rely too heavily on 50 Cent, while they counter that they’ve earned their own success.

The hosts dissect the fine line between gratitude and dependency, using personal anecdotes to illustrate their points. Throughout, the podcast maintains a casual, humorous tone, punctuated by ads and playful jabs at each other, making for an entertaining yet insightful discussion.

FAQs

The hosts reference an internet clip warning that if you find a random honey bun on your bed in jail, you shouldn't eat it because the person who left it will come back expecting it, and eating it could lead to a sexual encounter.

They felt it underdelivered due to a slow beat, poor execution, and spending too much time dissing Jim Jones and his wife Chrissy, which they deemed a misstep and unnecessary.

They agreed it was smart to try to create a moment, but criticized the execution because he performed on the early 7 o'clock stage when few people were there, making the impact weak.

They believe dissing family members, especially someone who stays out of drama, is crossing a line and takes the beef away from lyrical competition into unnecessary personal attacks.

The hosts discussed a beef where Bleek criticized Yayo and Murda for relying on 50 Cent, while Yayo and Murda clapped back, with Bleek arguing he's independent and doesn't need Jay-Z's constant support.

They noted it's a common practice, especially in New York, but debated whether it undermines a person's status, with some arguing that big homies shouldn't borrow chains from lesser figures.

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