Episode 940 | "Good Kids"

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing revealing and dieting Or telling you anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at all. We are trained professionals We do not have your best interests at heart or are all Enjoy the show now right now. No, I'm just Great move. I'm just chilling the breath of blood. I pressed the button. Oh, yeah Yeah, ten years, it's always Ten years, oh shit Oh, man. All right. All right. What's up, y'all. What's up, man? What's up, man? What's good? I might feel good after a nice long weekend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Oh, yeah, it was for this day Shout out to all the fathers out there. I had a good father there. Yeah, they'll crew out You had the whole crew Tradition, yeah, we went over we had brunch at a blue Blue on the Hudson shadow day body over there Different from our Harlem spot. We'd be going to that we didn't go to more little more expensive too Little more expensive than just anybody getting grits and bacon Father's day, man. Yeah, but we had a good time then my son called me on a trick called me ladies like, oh, you're making a move Hit me up, man. I was like, you know what bring your little punk ass out talking to you and we went out for a little bit Oh, yeah, did you go to spot? Yeah At a good time. It's pop man. Hey We went out We had a little pod pop up now. We had a pod trip field trip a Few people didn't show up words work were also a little tired. Yeah, no use ties This was tired a money pump fake. Yeah What's up with that am I here go? That's that was that was shocking because he's always down for This guy just coming up for the summer. So that was his very last night of freedom. Uh-huh. So it wasn't so shocking You had to get some Get a couple wraps up It wasn't one two shocking to me. It was fun though. Yeah, good time. I'm glad y'all came. Hey, I like that spot. I laughed all night I laughed. It was part Everything All right, this is what I learned though This is what I learned Ice look like a mob boss when you see a man. That's a fact. That's a fact. What? Yeah, you did Shades chain. Yeah, I mean VIP section ice If he never talked to nobody and I don't know if he did no, I'm saying this is my point. Yeah If he never said a word and you just seen him outside He looked like a killer. Oh, yeah, he looks like a mob boss. Yeah, he knows the owner Got his shades on and no promoters a couple people coming in saying what up to him like he's somebody Yeah, I mean his lady with him looking like some she know a couple people so the girl's gonna make it all the big all the freaks She come over being a girl girl and I'm looking at ice and I'm like, yeah, but when he don't talk This Nick and I said only shit It's the old school trick and it worked again Ice Looks amazing Under the strip club lights I said oh shit is the oldest trick in the book that they got me with In the strip club like y'all know that's the old you know the trick. Yes, and the strip club lights. I hate look like The illest nigger in the world. Yeah, that's my man He did only under the strip club like so You see this nigga maybe especially under the strip club lights Especially especially now use that nigga here. I ain't gonna lie. We had a good time. We did my man I'm gonna grow she said I'm just her type Yeah, no, she much money she's the freak of this bar too. How much money though? Who's counting who's counting a couple dollars That's how you throw what wasn't craziness. I'm on a budget It didn't look crazy. It was more than ice through but it was more than we threw but I throw a couple dollars to them Yours was saying Yeah, box through a couple dollars ice is out somebody to yeah, I passed through a little something He's out for a little something. I ain't throw that she throw Boss shit boss shit on some mom shit. I don't throw it here my Here miss some piece you throw it on that dish You had this out of get a fan fan fan. We had a good night. We had a good night. We had a good night We had a good time, man. We never done that was my brother. We need to do these team bonding trips. We do more often I think I don't know what else what else what else before we start our oh it's an apology. Oh, you can pause you I slept on it I don't even know just I slept on it on what the other day the other pod when I jumped in Minding you and Mark's business talking about the back flip and you own him money and you curse me out You was right about that that wasn't my business. That was on some rat shit Like and the reality is I was being self-centered because I wanted to see you do the back flip But I shouldn't have said nothing about whatever you old mark and mark getting it. That was corny shit So I just the dress niche. I Also wanted to see the back flip. I didn't it just didn't concern me It wasn't it wasn't my business to jump in and I do that a lot sometimes so sometimes and they're wrong, so I want to apologize Except his apology You know move along my nigga, okay. Oh, no, that's just the beginning How long you know me It's good boy, you know me so stop like that now lucky for me. Oh I did find a bet that we made that did concern me It's from a pod we did February 2024 and they got the date We bet that in two years I said I said what's the name Taylor Swift would not be letting anybody get her pregnant The rest of the room thought that she was really on Travis Kelsey, so they could see her popping a baby out in two years and we shook on it And it's taped now I ain't pressing you about the money because you my man. I love you regardless. I want you to take it find it Oh, I have no idea what so All right, I gotta I gotta go to the fouls. I gotta go to the fouls as of now. It's just here, so Later I dig in there see if I can find it And I don't want it bigger Yeah All right, come on, let's have let's have a good time, man. Let's have a good time. Let's have a good time Let's have a good time rainy day, but yeah, let's go. Here we go. Here we go Hey, who the fuck with my soundboard? Why got the chipmunk drunk? Make shake make shake what you want to make shake what you want to what's good out there Always for the ladies always for the ladies Shout out to wherever you might be listening from big jerky pick New York City Connecticut Boston , I know that I know No, I'm not gonna No, I'm sorry when tonight in the park to go ♪ Oh, what a call to buy ♪ ♪ Came into black times and through ♪ ♪ And I will glad ♪ ♪ Shaffer the whole west goes out there ♪ ♪ They love to get back to fire and rain ♪ ♪ Everybody in the Midwest ♪ ♪ Floating up, floating up, floating up ♪ ♪ You made me with kisses ♪ ♪ I'm so, so silly ♪ ♪ You made me fall in love with me, man ♪ ♪ You made me fall in love with me ♪ ♪ You made me fall in love with you ♪ ♪ You made me fall in love with you ♪ - That was a to the top production by the body. - No, it was great. It was absolutely great way to get time. No, I'm good though. I was sick on Friday when I was here, but I got to rest. I got a little bit of rest. Yeah, I'm 100% now. I stayed out the rain. I flew to Chicago on Sunday, which was great. The Saints of Biden and church had a good time. They shouted y'all out by the way. They actually prayed for the Joe Biden podcast when I got there. I appreciate that. Thank you. We need every second of it. Yo, please. It was dope. I didn't get to do five this day. But I decided instead of getting a shitty five this day, I called for a postponement. So my father's there being next week. 'Cause you weren't here for four. Yeah. I was gonna get back from Chicago at 7 p.m. That's gonna give me a necktie. And it's nice and pizza. Yeah, and it's nice and pizza. I went with my whole shit next Sunday. That was smart. I hate to be the bearer, man. Dude, what do you think the whole shit is on father's there? Brunch and a necktie. A steak? Okay. Yeah. Two shirts. V-necks. I needed some new V-necks. Yeah. All right. All right, cool. Our good brother issues here. Mr. Thousand Doors. Nothing. How you feeling, man? Good. Good. You sound enthused. Next to him, come on. Stop playing with him. Mr. Kingpin himself. Mr. Take it further. Big freeze in the building. Mr. Kingpin. Mr. Kingpin. How was your birthday, man? I knew freeze was that nigga. He tapped me at one point in the spot. He was like, "Yo, man, it's a cool spot. Hey, none for me and mine in here. This is for y'all. It's like I ain't nigga. I was like, "I ain't nigga." Nah, we just, you know, you know, you, you BBL bandit. We don't, we don't rock 'em. BBL bandit. I'm certainly not the BBL bandit. There's some, there's some other people in here that would be the BBL bandit way for me. How am I the BBL bandit? That, that's the, the, that. I'm, I'm new here. Ice cream explaining. I love him. I love him. I love him. I love him. I love him. Joe, you know what I'm talking about, man. I have a weight restriction. You like the more, I have a weight restriction. Yeah. Alright, put it this way. Remember how? I have a weight, have a weight pop up. It got, this is why I have a restriction. I got you. Yeah. Remember when you went in Magic City? When we were down there? Yes. And you got out of there quick, right? Yes. Why? Because my weight restriction wasn't in my way. Well, my weight restriction is on the other end of that scale. Ah. But all I'm saying is that has nothing to do with a BBL. It's plenty of girls with a BBL in Magic City. And some girls with a BBL too. I'm, I'm, I'm, well, we, he know what we say BBL. I do. Exactly. We have an audience of millions. They know what I mean too. Trust me. I don't know what they all do. They all know. Hey, you are the big, big mamas. Big mamas. One 70 year. One 85. One 90. Between one 90 and two 15. Salute to y'all out there. Anyway, did I do ice? Yes. I did ice. I did ice. All right, Mister. There you go, there you go. Salute to her, man. You was talking? I mean, it's a strip love. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, it's loud. So it's not really whisper. Touchy. That's a lot. That's a lot. One to know. One to know. Well, touching a little whisper. I'm going to put you. Big poets here, Cory is here, Eric's in the 18th. And we're here by remote last but certainly not least. Each and every one of you. Very, very, very, very important people are here. What's popping? What's popping? Hey, my baby's here too. I'm not going to do that. My baby's sitting here too. Mister piece. No, I don't even want that again. Yeah, that's what. Yeah. Why would I not want? She's everywhere I'm at. She's there. No. I know. I know if you want the audience to know. I don't. That's what I was doing. This guy a little extra pep and a step this day. Yes. He a little extra. The rain didn't bother him at all. I wasn't a kid. He's like, what the fuck is my chick filet? I was like, damn, dude. [LAUGHTER] I just got his laid out tender. Yeah, right. Got his lady with an an a little wildlife concert later. Woo. Stop playing with free. I was gonna tell you what you do for your birthday, man. You're big. Book Wale for a show. Oh, yeah. Strip club. Yeah. That's hilarious. So, come on, beautiful people. Wait with you. That's your quick question. Just because I was joking about you. A little joking about you. You at part in different friendly lady. But do y'all, like, I know your girl be here. You lady be here. My lady's been here once, I think. Do y'all part different when they hear? Like, do y'all feel like y'all act different when they hear? No. No. Oh, no. You got a one. You were around. But I spent the first six years of this podcast doing it in front of my lady. So, okay. So, it's just like she not there. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Your rim is damning, like, a part of this bar. Yeah. For her. She produces, like, she's been a fixture in the corner for most of this thing. Okay. Yeah. Because in my way, I'm going to be a part totally different. Just like, you know what I mean? I'm going to recognize me. Pussy. Same. Yes. I'm right with you. I'm probably never bothered in the same way my girl was around. Nice. You think I'd let my girl know how funny I am when she ain't around? I am Eddie Murphy when she ain't around. Bitches. Exactly. You're the podcasters. Yeah. That he was. That he was. Uh, you got any other brilliant questions or more? Because you're curious. Uh, well, it dooms me to say that we must start with our co-host. Who's not here? Who's not here. And normally, I would have waited to discuss this till she is here, but she won't be here Friday. Oh, really? Yeah, because she's got a gig that she called out for a fucking month ago. Got it. So now, yeah, you at the top of the board, Mona. I've got to do it. Mona, you at the top of the board for your virality. Hmm. You went. I don't know. Y'all do it. I'm going to get mad. Go ahead. You do it. It is an issue. No, you got to put it. No, no, no, no, no. All right. You going to do club Davis? Yeah. Okay. You promise. It's a bet. You didn't. You do this one. You leave it. No, Mona went viral earlier in the week for a potential altercation. It wasn't a real altercation. It was more of an argument. So Mona was in down. Purple thing. Yeah, it was a verbal altercation. Mona was in downtown Delaware. People thought it was Philly. It was not Philly, by the way. It was Delaware. And you can see on the video her having a conversation with a woman. The woman was a little more animated in Mona at the beginning. And she's kind of walking away. And Mona, you can hear Mona saying, if I did that to you, I apologize. Trying to diffuse the situation. Then the woman kind of walks away like I don't know. She didn't have time for that. She goes into the store. Mona tries to walk into the store. They close the door behind her. And she's like, basically, I'm trying to get into the store. She eventually gets into the store, follows the woman into the store. I don't say follows her in the store. Mona said she was going in to purchase something. But she engages the woman further. And the woman is basically like, get the fuck away from me. I'm not, this isn't worth a word, but this is the gist. And then it clips off. There were people, that's the part. that people saw. There's more to the video, it's a very long video, but that's what people saw. Some people were trying to say that Mona was antagonizing women. Other people were saying Mona was scared, and other people were saying, you know, all kinds of things. Personally, after, well, I have a few thoughts, but in that moment, Mona took me wasn't scared at all. Not that that should be the point, but to me, she was just trying to be an adult and defuse the situation and be like, "Yo, my bad, if something happened and she'll situation out." Personally, I would have just gone out of the way at some point, but I think it's important to note that. That's all. Somebody sent me the video on, I want to say Thursday night. They sent me the video. There's a couple days for the rest of us got it. And so I called Mona, I'm like, "Yo, what the fuck?" She's like, "Yo, I really didn't want no trouble. She's like, "Yo, I'm trying to be cognizant of my social standing now." She's like, "Yo, the old me, we had been rumbling." She said, "Yo, I was trying to apologize to the lady." She's like, "Yo, I really didn't want no trouble. I was telling the lady, basically, if I offended you, let me know what I did. I apologize." And she said the lady just was just wouldn't tone down. She said, "Yo, the lady was threatening to mace her and all types of shit." And she's like, "Yo, I'm just trying to see what I did wrong to you, fam. I don't want no smoke. I don't want no problems." And she was like, "Yo, she's like, "Yo, I'm telling you, you would have been really, really proud of me even the stuff that you didn't see. I tried to defuse the situation as much as I possibly could versus being the old me that I used to be." Are you telling my Mona? Yeah. I feel what you can feel when you say somebody sent me the thing that you told about me. No, somebody, a person sent me the video, like some IDM to me the video, and was like, "Yo, your girl was just out here about to get it in and sent it to me, so I immediately called her." Like, "Yo, what the fuck?" And she was like, "Yo, it wasn't me. She was like, "I promise you, I was trying to defuse the shit. I wasn't on no aggressive shit. The lady was mad aggressive cursing me out, calling me all types of names and shit." And I was just trying to stand down without any problems. She said, "I've seen the cameras. I've seen all that shit." And I'm just trying to get to another level in my ascension, so I'm a big up for that. And speaking to her, did she ever find out what she did to the lady? I think she said something like, "Yo, I put some money on the counter," or something like I reached around the lady while I was on the side of the lady. I just put some money on the counter, and the lady looked at it as being disrespectful. Okay. So, she said the lady just went from zero to a hundred eighty. Well, the lady said that in the clip, like when she looked like she was charging toward her, she was describing, 'cause Mona said, "What did I do?" And the lady said, "You came, my store, mad aggressive, mad, ride, ride, trying to buy something." And no, it was disrespectful. And no, now get the fuck out the store. So that was in the video. And then Mona was saying, "No, I can't come to the store." And then they slammed her door on her face, which to me was the funniest part of the video. That's hilarious. Mona talking to the door. I'm like, "Mona's deal, don't know this shit's up for me." That's something that just plagues my girl wherever she at. I'd be wanting to do that shit, but she'd be talking sometimes with this lamp. But ain't no door right here. It was the man's phone's out here with the nutty phone. Like, it's a grown-ups. And anybody had they phone out just trying to get some tea? That shit was. Yeah. Crazy. That's how I hit the internet. No, it wasn't crazy. It happened every hour, every minute, every day at that store in Delaware that your ass shouldn't have been the fuck ass in the first place. So why is Mona at the store? I'm gonna say this to her when I see her. So don't think I'm talking about her. I told her yesterday. We had a conversation yesterday. Why are you at the store, yo? Look at the store. Look at the store. Then ain't a bagel in there. You need to digest. Look at the people around you. Turn left. Turn right. You didn't go and get on the phone and say something about, I thought about my social standards. So I ain't swing bitch. No you didn't. No you didn't. It's hard. I'll say it. It's hard. No it ain't. It's hard. It's hard for people. I think it's hard for people. It is hard for people. I just think it's hard for people. I guess people only know what they know so if I'm going to get hair glued from this spot that's here on the tough block and I go there all the time and you don't feel because you so comfortable in it. It doesn't feel like there's a problem. I got that problem too. When niggas is around with guns, I don't bet I'm it's but I ain't as good as around. We in. Cool. Or that's like somebody saying, yo, how do you be at these strip clubs in the Bronx? The mad niggas is scared to go there, one, number two, at your level of success and your level of fame, some can argue you have no fucking business being there. They could argue it. I would have a response. No, I'm just, I'm just giving you from the outside looking in that is, that is the same exact thing as you saying, yo, why the fuck you out there? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. So now we're going to, now we're going to talk through it. Just because it's an audience. Gotcha. It should not matter when your safety is on the line, right? So with all of these strip clubs, I know all of the arms in the building. I could walk in with arms myself in the building. I know the security, I know the gangsters, I know this is, it's a controlled, it's as controlled of an environment as it could be. Not to say nothing about pop up. Of course. Of course. And the street, not so much, you can't, you can't, but that's the street that she's very familiar with and know everybody over there. It's kind of the same thing. I know all of the guns around here. I know this person here. I've been coming here forever. It's kind of the same thing, Joe. I don't, I don't, and indoor outdoor is not kind to say. No, no, no. I'm just talking about the familiarity. I also think it's a slight difference in that you could go to a different bodega. You can't go to a different strip club. You don't say anything. What are you talking about? We in Manhattan is seven zillion strip clubs. My point is this is simply, no, I know my point is just simply this, yo, stuff that can happen in a spot that you are not in control of. So yo, they might not even be targeting Joe, but it could be me and Parks, Beefin. I got the shit on me, Parks got the shit on me. You just a casual bystander and somebody can break, I'm not saying me. I know the environment. So it's not me. I'm knowledgeable about everything that's going on. I'm talking about, from the viewer's perspective, dog, you not in control of that. And so somebody, if something got forbid, what happened to you, the responses would be, he should have not been there in the first place. I hear that. You hear what I'm saying? Let's take it off the environment for a second. Monit shouldn't be nowhere with one sock on. What'd you got to say now? Tough ass. No, no, no. No, no, no, no. Break it down. When you leave, when you got, when I respect that, I'm sorry to say what I'm saying. You just run into the bodega real quick. All right. All right. I am good. No, I'm done with this topic. I will discuss it when I see Monit. I just say don't, y'all, we love her, so y'all just trying to do something more right quick. No, no, no. Where is the other sock? Everybody doesn't lost the sock. And the crib. No, no, no, no, no. It wasn't like she was doing it because she was more clout shit. Yeah, she didn't know who she was from what I've heard, like the girl was actually shocked. And her people was mortified that that happened. She was just on that shit because you're on that shit. They said, I don't want, I don't want to get sued, but I look, but, and then she knew anybody on the block. Nobody's certainly jumped in and tried to diffuse nothing. Nah, because Niggas be fiends for, oh, shit, I'ma get this on the camera. I got this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you could have stopped that at fiends. Yeah. So, so Joe, you go to the strip club. Um, so, so Joe, you go to the strip club, we all got some shit that we still do that we shouldn't do. What did y'all shit that y'all do to y'all? Oh, yeah, I know. I got to talk about my, I'm in clubs. I shouldn't be in. I'm in the hood every day though. In the hood, hood, hood. Yeah. I shouldn't be in some of these spots. I know that. I do. Why do y'all still do it? I got comfort. They're my spots. Comfort. Oh, it's just come. Okay. I mean, I got business day. I got personal shit day. I'm, you know, I, me personally, I don't think I've risen to a level where I'm in fear of my safety and needs particular environments and surroundings. Like, I'm not there yet. I think if I start to feel uneasiness in my surroundings, then of course, it's my job to excuse myself from that and dissociate from that. Joe has been famous for 20-something years, you know what I'm saying? So there has to be times where you go. I shouldn't be here right now. And as I go over, I leave. I've been in a couple spots when I'm like, you know, okay, exactly. But you leave. Or like your friends or your girl or someone who will have you somewhere where you're like, this, I don't need to be here right now. Like, I get that feeling. I'm out. Yeah. Okay. Some of that should the ego keep you there sometime though. No. For me, like, I'm not going to let nobody, not let, I'm not going to let something stop me from being in this place. And they're going to need to be here though. Yeah. Nobody, stand me down and make me like that. I just need to be in the G-rated and, you know what I mean? Sometimes, I wasn't feeling, I wasn't feeling a couple of times as we, uh, handling some stuff. And I was, you know, visiting family in the hood and like, I walk to the store. I go to the, the locals that midnight, I'm outside doing shit. And I'm sitting like, I don't need to be here, but then I'm like, I don't do, I, I, I don't leave. And part of that is ego. And then for some people, before we close out as guilt, like, people feel like, I don't want to feel like I'm better than this. I don't feel like I'm better. That's part of what I mean. I'm from here. This is who worries me. I shouldn't turn my back. Yeah. That's what it would mean. I want to talk about. I don't want to disclose our conversation. But one thing she said, I think she would be okay with me repeating it. She said, like, I don't want to feel like I'm too good to be here. You know what I'm saying, and that's the thing, like, I don't want to go better than them. I'm going to go to this store. You can just do. It's a tough battle. It's a tough battle. It's a tough battle. It's a tough battle to find that, that's right. - That's tough, because you don't wanna feel like I'm too good for a spot, but at the same time, you might say I shouldn't be here. So it's like a backing for a battle. - Alex Clay, you said it better for you. - It's a con, no, again, Joe, that fame is for a very, very, very, very long time. - I did a young age, yeah. You know, I'm in, you come from environment, that was a bad environment, so you getting away from that environment was the most logical and rational thing you should've been doing at that time. You know what I'm saying? It makes sense while you lay, I'm not, definitely not disrespecting the reason that you fucked out here, and not for nothing, in Joe's situation, like, you had somebody put a gun in your face. - You're beefing me, yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, some people don't go that far with the close call. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - So they still come true. - Best in the world, you had good reason to get back out. - I know you, I mean, they learned true. - Oh my god, I'm flat. But think about this in this real true story, especially in the hoods. Yo, it's a lot of successful people that make it out to hood, right? We don't know that they're successful because they never come back. So if you make it to a certain level of prominence or success, you kind of want to go back to the hood sometimes, to show to other people that it's a possibility for you to get out. - Yeah. - That's where you get tricky though. - And now it does. - I'm not sure now you come. - Because some people look at you as food. Now that you came back in, oh well. We starving over here, and you made it? Are you here? - I mean, play with, run with the lion. - Okay. - I can't say much. - Go back to the hood. - What hood? - They didn't turn the old journalist quit in the high rises. Whatever hood you grew up in ain't the same. That's not true. - Hold on a minute, James, don't mess you around. - Yeah. - Some hoods are still-- - MLK gonna be MLK, my nigga. (laughing) MLK is everywhere around the country. It's some shit going on. - I mean, it's a few simple rules of thumb that if you follow it, you'd probably be cool. The harder it is, if the harder it is to make it from a town is how easy it is should stay away from that motherfucker when you make it. Like, sorry, I don't see just crops and Delaware motherfuckers just-- - Yeah. (laughing) - You hit those stories, the niggas on it, like Jersey City was tough to make it out from. Guess what? I had knowledge of that. (laughing) And I ain't reprove it. Yeah, I ain't coming back. - Are you crazy? - You can go, no. - Oh, that's crazy. - On the drive by, it's nothing to do but you see your family and do all that shit. Well, all the other shit I did in my 20s. You get a car, you wanna take it through the ad, you wanna take it through the blocks, you wanna take it to fucking crowns. Yeah, it's over there. You ain't going to crowns anymore. The other day it was nice out. I was bored in the house on some, I'm a celebrity, so I ain't supposed to be nowhere. So I'm just staying home for 10 days in a row with the exception of where we went. Well, you know what, let me hop in the car, I'll take a little drive. I hop in the car. Made it right, wait, it was people outside. Which car? - Which car, yeah, it's me. - My very important. - My red car. - The red car. - What brand is that? - I mean, it's a Ford. - It's a Toyota Chevrolet. - No, it's another F. - Okay, but I mean, I made it right. It was manned people outside, it was traffic. It was all types of shit. I fucking pulled over where I was trying to go. But nobody in here for me. I said, dear, what an orange juice. And fucking, left and five minutes went back now. So I'm like, what am I doing? - But don't you feel, don't a party you wanna just roll? - I don't know, I think about like Muhammad Ali when I was a young boy, like, when I, he would like jog down grocery, stand where he's in Philly. He would just jog through North Philly, just on grocery. And like, it was good to see him in the hood. - That's a different era. - True. - In fairness. - It is, that's what I said. But that's the image I have. And that's what I keep holding on to. So when I think about you, like, you riding through Jersey City, or you're all going through North, yeah, I mean, like, the people wanna see you. - I agree. - I just said that. - Yeah, I just said that. - And if I went to Jersey City, what store do you think I would stop it? - A store? - And buy some. Pull over. - Yeah, that's the one. Get out. - And Jersey City, take a bag. Take about three, say good park. - Dairy Queen. - There you go. - Go ahead and try to find it. That's my hood. - Yeah. - No, not that. There's no one in Dairy Queen. - They're gonna be up a name and split. - They know that. - They know about me. That Dairy Queen now. - They're gonna lie on a minute. - They're gonna lie on the wall. - Anyway, we glad, Mona, we glad that you are. - Yeah, that part. - No doubt. - So you are. - Work. - It's Monday. - Um. - Are you okay, Joe? Last, I spoke to you yesterday, you were still mourning a bit from the Clive Davis thing. I think the whole music industry was. - Shocking up. - Oh yeah, you did. I did speak to you right after you passed. - Yeah. - You wanna tell them what you said? - No. - Absolutely. - No, no, no, no. - You wanna go ahead and tell them what you said to me. As soon as Clive passed, so they could really see the. - The real Mark. - Yeah, the real Mark. - So they could really see the level you'll stoop to. Come on, come on, give me some. - If I was really a piece of shit, I would say it. Because it would be really, yeah, but no. - I'm gonna say it. - The Mark said. - Right. - Right, Mark told me. - No, right. No. The music industry is reeling right now. Following the death of Clive Davis, who of course was. One of the great music execs. And I would argue maybe the greatest talent finder in American music history. - He's out there. - He's in the cover. - Wait, let me just talk about that. - We'll get to that. - I have to be eulogized in first place. - Yes, you know, we eulogized in first place. - And also he died in '94. - Long life. - Yeah, they say the good, that young. And, you know, he starts. First of all, he's a lawyer by training. Went to NYU, then went to Harvard Law. A lot of people don't know that impeccable training. Then he goes into the music business. And, you know, first at Columbia Records. And he said Columbia Records, to me, one of the most interesting times in Columbia Records. From like '67 to '73. I think Aritha was still there for those last few years. I mean, there was some amazing shit happening at Columbia Records right there. And he was a great talent scout. He was in there to Ariston, and before later founding the J Records. He was somebody who didn't just build. He wasn't somebody who just created. He was somebody who just made money, although he made a whole lot of it. - Yeah. - He was a talent finder. - He was. - He had a unique and rare ability to spot talent. And across genres, which is another thing. Some execs only can find this whole thing, or the pop singer, or the rap artist. But when you can see Santana, and you can see Janice Joplin, you can see Aros Smith. You can see Bruce Springsteen. Then you can see Whitney Houston, which may be his, that's certainly his favorite. His prize sort of talent. - Remind me to come back to Bruce Springsteen. - Okay. - That's your own question. - But he had an ability to nurture and develop talent. And it's also generational. Some people can do it in an era. And then once their moment is gone. But to go from the '60s. And then to produce talent in the '70s. All of them, I mean, Alicia Keys. - Yeah. - And to keep producing talent decade after decade after decade is a testament, I think, to his talent. There are a lot of legends still standing. And he was one of the last ones. And of course, his legacy will live on through the music. It will live on through the infrastructure, live on through NYU. And you know where he obviously built his school. And he was a big mentor. And so some people don't plant seeds. But one thing Clive was willing to do was plant seeds. He would plant his seed in many, many fertile young artists. And I think it just says everything about him. And so we would say rest in peace to him. And we hope that he gets everything that he deserves. - And thank you for your contributions. - Thank you. - Responsible for a lot of great music. - No question. - A lot of great music. - Across, again, across all the genres. That's the amazing, amazing part of him. - Parks and I, do you have anything to add to that, Joe? - Did he mentor you? - No. - Okay. - I never had anything to do with Aristotle or J. Records. - Sometimes he worked with artists who weren't. He was willing to plant seeds even when people weren't. - Yeah, you don't like gardens directly under his thumb. - Did a bunch of rappers fuck with him? - Some did. I know he had some strong relationships with like puff daddy. He had some, you know, and so a lot of people came under the bad boy umbrella. He, he, they felt his presence. - What do I do with learning from this? If you keep a straight face or a mark, do this. I mean, just let him cook. - All right. - Not for a hard part. - What's the strength of you? What else do we have for the straight face? Vitting, we should be crying. Or sad. But, but lots of people, that's what you might have been. - I'm not sure if I have even, I don't think I have even met Clark Davis. I've never met him. - Stick to that. - Yo, I don't feel what they ask. - I don't feel what they say. - Why are you being such a jerk? - But what? - What are the Clark Davis accusations? - I don't know of any accusations of what. - I don't know, that's what I'm asking. - Mark, don't talk your fucking tail. - He meant to work like this. - He meant to work lots of people. - What I don't think he was a pioneer of one. This is a series. No, in his, I don't know if y'all got a chance to read his biography. - Who am I talking to? - He would, you know what I mean? - He would, he would, he would, he would, he would, he would all the biography. - And in it, one of the things he talked about was being bisexual. - Oh. - And he was one of the first major industry people, and major public figures to say that. And he said at the time that he hoped that coming out as bisexual would help people deepen the understanding of bisexuality to get race some of the stigma and to understand, you know, who he was. - And he was in that relationship with men into his 90s. I'm only mentioning it because he mentioned it. - Okay. - It was important to him, that people, that people, exactly. - And it was important to him that people knew that. So, yeah. So again, he left, he left. lots of, lots of legacies and lots of marks with a K. Um, I think that's it for, for, for Clive Davis. Rest in peace, Clive Davis. Rest in peace, man. Like you said, they clive. Yeah. Now do you want to have the fight that we were having? Yes. I want to hear this fight. Yeah. So yeah, don't try to back over that one. Yeah. No, no, I'm not at all. I'm talking through, I feel even more correct. But you said you wanted to do something with Clive before that. Huh? Okay. Okay. You said before you said that. Oh, I wasn't supposed to get the end. I got my, I just want to know who has the T. Yeah. My, my, my, my she ain't about nothing important. I just want to know who has the Clive T. There's a lot of him. He's gone. Rest in peace. But he was 94. He was in the industry for a long time. I'm sure there is some T out there. But it's out there. Please don't make me just fucking go home and imagine what the T could be. And it is piping hot as they say. I know it is. I wish somebody was spilling. Do we think that Clive T will come out anytime soon? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Here's the thing. And I know some people when he died yesterday were tagging me and saying, I can't wait for Mark's eulogy, so he can really, you know, go in on Clive Davis. And that's not, I have no problem. Critic, y'all know me. I have no problem. Criticizing people during the eulogy if they deserve it. And he may deserve it. But I don't want to mention a bunch of rumor in your window and people's eulogy. It's one thing called Halkogan or we know this thing happened or Dick Cheney who's a certified piece of shit. That's different. But I'm going to say that after you do it. She a dick. Dick Cheney, yeah, okay. But for Clive Davis, it's too much speculation, too much rumor, too much in your window that I don't think that's fair to him. His legacy or the people who are tied to him, because some of which is a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't want to do that. But there'll be plenty of time for that when it comes out, I'll report it across, but it's just not the time right now, you know. But we were having a conversation about talent and who's kind of, I don't want to, I don't want to misrepresent. But I said that somehow we talked in the top of Barry Gordy because we talked about who's left. And I said Barry Gordy is one of the greatest, obviously one of the greatest talent finders. You say he's the greatest. The. I put Clive Davis above him. How? And that's where the conversation came. Before Barry's Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, Smokey Robinson, Diana Ross. Oh, yeah. That's. Yeah. You just found him and scouted him. I'm asking him. Oh, ignorance. Well, him and his team. You know, obviously, we both, these gentlemen, they have, we talked in teams, yeah. Because otherwise, if you don't talk teams, it's not fair. Yeah. I think they're the, to me, they're the two in the conversation. Agreed. I think it's almost impossible to beat that line up. That's a nice start. That's a mean farm. For Clive Davis wins is the depth and the breath. So I'm just, I made a little list just to go back to it. But again, I mean, I know y'all don't care about so many people. So y'all gonna say whatever. No, these are, there's the monsters on the list. But I mean to find Janice Joplin, to find Barry Manelow, to find Bruce Springsteen, to find Arrow Smith, to find Santana, to find Whitney Houston. I mean. That's a good. It would be the best if there wasn't a person standing right there that got the man's part. Yeah, that would be, that would be the top. This Barry Gordon get credit for Stevie Wonder, I'm thinking this through. Why wouldn't he? I'm, I'm learning to think about the chronology of him getting the motown. I was trying to, I, I thought he was doing some stuff, but I might be wrong. I don't know. It's Barry Gordon. Is it? Yes. Yes. Yes. Stevie Wonder is what makes it, is what makes it even a, to me competitive. Right. Yeah. You could, you could take that Barry Manelow shit up. - And Aros Smith, and Aros Smith, Bruce Springsteen, Santana. - All right, if you say it, say Bruce, I'll look at him. - All right, I keep trying to cheer. - What's your people doing? - I know he's the New Jersey fucking goat. So I don't have nothing bad to say. But when that's two times, and if you say it again, I will be forced to say what I'm thinking. Bruce Springsteen, we gotta ask the question. - Yeah, I think I'm in the same-- - How many Slavs Bruce got? - He got some. - He's got some Slavs. - He got some Slavs. And it's not just that he got Slavs. - It's also the ones we got. - What are they? - I'm a band in the USA, shit. - Born in the USA. - Born in the USA. - Too loud, I'm prudent. Fucking literally. (all laughing) - All right, born in the USA. - It's worse. - No other. - Born in the USA, it's a great song. - Yeah. - No, it's worse than being banned, banned is hard. Anyway, I'm not talking about this song. All right, born in the USA-- - This is a full of Bruce Springsteen. - And this song is also kind of banned in the USA, if you ever-- - This song is actually ironic. - People were singing in a patriotic, patriotic, it's actually not that. - Yeah. - That's what people were listening to. - What else you got, though? - Dancing in the dark. - Dancing in the dark is a big one. - Is there a deluxe on that? (all laughing) - Y'all. - Born to run, thunderbolt. - Born to run, for sure. - Yeah, yeah. - All right, all right. - Teresa Philadelphia is like a heart. - I'm gonna keep it a bug. - I don't know nothing. - I got it. (all laughing) - I got it. - This is gonna rock. (all laughing) - I'm gonna fight in my household, actually. 'Cause Rem is a big Bon Jovi fan. And we always have the Springsteen versus Bon Jovi fight. - Is there a fight? - What's the fight? What's the fight? - What's the fight, dear? - Bon Jovi's got a little more depth. - A little bit. - A lot more, actually. - Yeah, I was about to say, what do we talk about a little bit? - So what's the fight? - Who do you, who's better? In the versus who wins? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Bon Jovi wins. (all laughing) - Are y'all better than getting a win? (all laughing) - Yeah, I don't, I can't bruise his bruises. - He can't, yeah, yeah. - But he's like the, the, the, the. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, again. - Bro. - Is he white? - Yeah, he's white, right? - Yeah. - 'Cause he was spray-tannon. - Yeah, you say he's white. - He was spray-tannon. - I think he's Jewish. - You see, and then we oughta world-dop. - Fuck the hell with you, yellow. - Yeah. - He did not. - That's a great performance. - That wouldn't be the best, yeah. - He did vlog, bro. - But again, he's not, he's not, I'm not sure he's in the startin' five. - Sorry, Clive. - He's not in Clive, startin', five. - I mean, again, there's also Chicago, Pink Floyd. - I love Chicago. - You get Chicago, you get Earth Wind and Fire. - You get Pink Floyd. - But Pink Floyd was, that wasn't fully him. He just got them distribution. - You lose Pink Floyd. - Yeah. - That's the thing, but every morning that comes to the U.S. without the nigga, you gotta get it, you gotta point five. - Yeah, you gotta give him something, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - The list is just, this is just a lot more. It's like a, it's like a draft where you get like, three Hall of Famers and VersaDraft where you get like, 25 All Stars. - Three of the best that have never done yet. - Not just Hall of Famers, exactly. - Oh yeah, Jimmy Kozy, eh? - I've loved Jimmy Kozy, that's not me. - I'm not going. - Clive, get Jimmy. - Clive points. - No. - No. - When it gets the damn Barry Gordy. - Yeah, see that. - No, he does much. - Bro. - Yeah. - Mike Stevie Marvin. - Whitney neutralizes one of them. - Now, I'm not giving Marvin gay the fuck out. - Whitney neutralizes who that he just said. - I am not giving Marvin Gaye the. - How not? - Marvin over Whitney Houston? - No, I'm saying that. - Yes. - Yes. - Yes. - Marvin over Whitney. - Eight days in a week. - Marvin Gaye over with respect, rest in peace. - Of course. - Y'all are drunk. - Y'all are drunk. - Marvin Gaye over with. - Yes. - Yes. - Yes. - I don't even think that's the answer. - I don't think that's the answer. - What are you talking about? As a vocalist, are you talking about, what are you, or as an artist? - I'm talking about that. I'm a vocalist, her impact in which, Whitney Houston was her for a very, very, very long time. - Not that long. I mean, if we be, not that long. - All right. - I mean, no, I mean, her first album comes out, what, 80, what, through, 83-ish. - Yeah. - And my love is your love comes out in what, 98? - 98, so it's 15 years. - It's a long time. - It's a long time. - Yeah, but compared to Marvin Gaye, Marvin Gaye started with Harvey Farquhar, who's why I'm not giving him all his credit for it. I'm saying, Marvin was kind of, and he was already a session drummer before it. I'm just saying, there's a long stretch before he gets to, to Motel, I mean, there's time after Motel. - You take Marvin Gaye's best four songs, and Whitney's not allowed in that club. - Oh, no. - Y'all are crazy. - Whitney's not allowed in that section of the club. - You're making this crazy, bruh. - You keep saying, Marvin's for, give me Whitney's for. - What's Whitney's for? - So let me tell, tell me what the criteria is, 'cause it can't be something. - It's four songs. - We opinionated, 'cause now I'm gonna go, now I'm gonna go get the songs that broke the records, and now y'all gonna go to, yo, we not talking about numbers. We not talking about numbers. - I'm asking you what the criteria is, before we pivot with the conversation, the girl sung the fucking national anthem, and the shit went four, five, six platinum. - I just wanna point out, I just wanna point out that Marvin Gaye was kind of the first person at the '84 Auster game to introduce that departure from the standard Mark National Anthem, so even Whitney's following Marvin's template. - Yeah, and Michael Jordan followed Dr. J. Do you already have a conversation? - We're not calling Marvin Gaye, Dr. J. - I was, we're not calling Dr. J. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Nobody brings up Dr. J's name, when Mark the fuck and Michael Jordan's name comes into the conversation. - Right, and I'm saying that there, I don't think that Marvin Gaye and Whitney Houston are enjoying it. - So you shouldn't have said it? - No, no, I was just saying that-- - My point still remains. - I was just talking about influence. - I wasn't able to take Whitney Houston's, call it four, five. I don't get to take up best five songs, and she can't stand no way near Marvin Gaye. - No. - She can't look at 'em. - And if you get to 10, I don't even know you. - You can add the star-spangled banner that she's slum, you can add-- - And put Dolly Parton up there with him to sing it. Put Cecil Houston on, what's it? - CC. - CC Winans, put the whole family up to D and all wore it. - Get all, and get to Houston's name, maybe. - Get Brandy, who else wouldn't be used to know? - Ray J. could come out here. - And Whitney Houston better not say, oh fucking with respect, another New Jersey left. She better not say a fucking people about more. - Whitney for biggest songs would be, I would always love you. Exhale. - I wanted to dance with somebody. - I wanted to dance with somebody and-- - Go dance with somebody. They've got a catalog like you. (laughing) Go dance with somebody that these songs is gonna do. - This is the second tier. - We talking about sexual healing. Let's get it on. What's going on in the city blues. I've heard through the grapevine. - Yes, it's true. - What are we-- - They don't have time. - It's very different levels of art. - Just to tell you to Ralph, I mean-- - Yeah, yeah, come on, come on. With respect. - With respect. - Respect. - And that's why I asked what the criteria is because those are songs that's resonating with us. When you start talking about worldwide acclaim and all that other shit, it's gonna be a different conversation depending on who the audience is. - Ah, that motel sound is pretty good. - Bro, you got three number one hits. - You look-- - Oh, you try to trap us into like the numbers thing. - I'm telling you that. - Yes, with the criteria. - I'm asking you with the criteria. 'Cause now it's the opinion. - You think if you include white people that Whitney beats Marvin. 'Cause I don't, I still don't think that. Mo Marvin gave him some-- - A blank, this ain't not a motel. - It's not a motel, it's not a motel. - It's about no white people, no black people. I said worldwide acclaim, so that's why I asked what the criteria is because then it becomes opinionated. And we start talking about numbers, something that's quantifiable. You can't deny those and it's not opinionated at that point. - Well, but you still have to look at like the different errors too. 'Cause it's-- - You don't? - I said I know. - I mean, you do. I mean, there's more people in the world now in two years. - In your travels, you gonna hear more, you gonna hear Marvin Gaye's song where you go before how will I know comes on? - Which I do. - Like what are we talking about here? - Yeah, if we're talking about, if we're talking about artistry, I don't think it's close. If you're talking about sales. - Yeah. - Then Wendy might-- - Wendy wins the sales fight, and it's not close. - By far. - I think that's what it's not close. - It's not even close. - It's not close. - And it's all I wanna bring up. If this young lady never had the problems or the issues that she had, unfortunately, especially towards the latter end of her career, we're not even having this conversation. - Marvin has some issues too. - He has issues too. - No, no, no, he has some issues too. I'm not disagreeing with you. - Whitney Houston was the pinnacle for a female artist of her generation, bro. That's a fact. - Yeah. - There's a, I don't wanna say this is, I wanna be respectful. There's a natural decline of habits to all artists at a certain point. I'm not sure the shit. It's not like shit 20 more years of number one hits in there. And any more than a re-ther anybody else did, right? I think that Whitney had a great career, and Whitney, to me, is one of the greatest vocals we've ever seen. One of the greatest artists we've ever seen. I'm not taking it that way from Whitney. I just think Marvin Gaye, it's almost a little, it's a little apples and oranges, but I think, I think Marvin Gaye is just a different level of artists. I think we're underestimating his impact as a writer, as a singer. - And I wanna be clear, yeah. - It back to the original conversation. - Yes. - Marvin Gaye is number three on my list. - There's two above him. - No, no, no, no, no, no. - So what I said was Whitney cancels out one of the three. And then you're gonna have to go to Clive Davis's Depth. So when you start naming four on five, six, seven of these mega artists, I think those six to that one. It's about six of them, 12. - Maybe more than that. - I think about eight of them out there. - But he got eight more. - Dolo. - And now Stevie. - That's what he got eight more. - Stevie's here. - Away in Clive. - Clive got each other, it's the other man that he got the rep for Luther. - Aw, shit. - Oh. - And now he don't get credit for Luther, but he does get credit for Luther. - Like cool, bro. - I didn't know it was all that. - That's what I was trying to say. Like that was the five that was unstoppable. But when you guys seven more fuckers, and I could show up with this. - Lots of them. - Lots of them. - Do you need one than Michael Jackson? - Finding Stevie Wonder Michael Jackson is epic. I don't take anything like that. - But a nice, but 50. - He still got 50 left, Gordon. Park's not that about six more fuckers. - Yeah. - Did he fucking do it? - I don't need no more. - I need to do it. - I need to do it. - Do it like 25. - Hey, you take that Janus job length shit up the street. (laughing) - I love Janus jobless, that's just the next bit. - Take it. - You still got the Supremes and fucking the Commodore's. - I know. - It's a long list. - Nice, some heat on here, bro. - Oh, like Kenny Log and shit could go get us. - No, again, if you talk about the sales. - I love Kenny Log. - I do that to Kenny. - Or Kenny G, I fucking hate Kenny G, but the motherfuckers own a lot of records. - I think if you take all the, I mean, Songbird wouldn't be what I'll turn on if I want to hear, like, good jazz. - I think if you take all the artists to ever exist, it's gonna be tough to beat. - That's the only point I'm making. But it's not like he just said, give me all of 'em. He actually developed some great talent, and he revived some careers. That research is of Carlos Santana, that last wave. - Oh, forgot about that. - That's, this one came back at like 50s. - He's close. - Smooth. - Nah, nah, nah, no. - Hold up for rage or shit. - Give Club that credit. - You twisted my arm. Fuck die in a rush now. - The research of Aretha Franklin? Again, like all these people. Y'all motherfuckers crazy, man. Do you have Warwick, do you have a big set? - No, no, no, yo, yo, you got a walk on fire. - You're gonna make me, you're gonna make me, you can't chill out. - Chill out, chill, chill, chill, chill. - Yo, yo, got it. - A rose. - Rest in peace to climb. - It's a rose. - It's a rose. - It's a rose to bear. He was also producing a lot of these artists as well, so that's a different level of shit. - I read The Franklin and DM, there you go. - What you guys say about "Read The Franklin" is the "I'm Warwick," Joe Biden. - You can't say that about him. - I'm not about him. - I have a recess, I'm not about him. - You can't say not about "Read The Franklin." - He said the researches. - Yeah, he was just, I mean, she was just checking for the-- - The rose is still a rose. - The rose is still. - I was a dope album. - I would even, I'd be-- - What are you about to say? - There's just a lot of "Read The Moments" and "Cloud Davis" was a part of-- - Part of some of them. - Some of them, a few of them. - A couple of them. - That was my, that's what I said. That's not my main point for "Cloud." I'm saying he just, that's it. Santana, Frank, "Read All the People He Up There" researches too, which is a whole other thing on top of the tower. - I heard from Santana, come on. I'm about to do this. - Oh, the Maria Maria Smoochia. - I heard from Santana, Santana. - That's not true. - "System Little Black Boy Heady Twins" popped up. - Yeah, that don't nobody know that now. - I know what you're talking about. - That was a group though. - From my Maria. - Product, project, project, project. - Product GMB, has a black product. - Product GMB, product GMB. That was a group. - Yeah, the song was a Matchbox 20 year. One of them fucked up. - Yeah, yeah. - That happened was amazing. And it went all the Grammys and that was our class. - Listen, Motown. - Yeah, and that's it. - Yeah, all this. - Yeah, all this shit you doing, John, get a job job, John. - Shout out to my job, John. - Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. - That's not how you get a job job. - I don't know if you're trying to speak of the Clive Memorial. You know you were Memorial All-Star. - Yeah, that's a fact. - He popped up with somebody. I died with some kind words. - Nah. - Good at that shit. Rest in peace. Rest in peace to Clive. - And thank you. - And it's thank you. - Thank you. - Thank you for all of it, all his family, friends, fans, fellow artists, and executive, men, mentees all of that. - Yeah, there's a lot of them, a lot of them out there. - All right, it's time for you. Is my baby time in the show? - Just, yeah, yeah. - I don't have, I don't have, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - That was like a, that was a 54-metle sound. - We did. - Yeah. - I mean, I'm excited. - 57 in the countenance. - No, come on, you gotta be some more shit music we can get to. We ain't gotta get to practice right now. Let's get all the music out of the way. Now the Barry-ended Clive. - Barry did not incline. - Barry-ended Clive. - Barry-ended Clive. - Still living, that's about it. - Did anybody watch the earth with a fire doc, by the way? - I heard it. - I did. - It was, I heard it's amazing. I didn't see it, I heard it's fire, though. - It's really good. It's on HBO, Questlove, Produced it, directed it, and all that shit. - This Maurice was tough, he was tough, man. - He was tough. - He was tough. He was tough on them. He was firing people over. - He was hard on them. - You like saying it? - No. - You should have watched it. - So it's on my watch list. - Yeah, it's music nerds, you should. - You were absolutely. First of all, only Questlove can assemble the people to be talking heads on this doc that he did. I mean, you got Michelle and Barack Obama and Stevie Wonder. I mean, you, I mean, like, it wasn't just right. - Yeah, but I mean, a whole lot of people go to earth with a fire doc and not get Barack Obama and Stevie Wonder. - True. - But it wasn't just, like, a-list, like, famous people. It was also, like, people who really knew their shit. So I really enjoyed that part of it. I thought the storytelling was good. I liked his first doc. - The slowest owner? - Yeah. - Yeah. - That was great too. - No, that's the second one. The first one was the one I was in theaters. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The one with the festival. - Yeah, yeah. - That one I thought was good, but it was very clearly a very good first doc. - And it was very niche. - Yes. - You know, it's our power of sly, or- - Right. - Or at least in earth with a fire. - But with each film, Quest Love gets better at storytelling? - For sure. - The elements get better. The organization gets better. I thought the slowest owner was amazing. - It was. - Yeah. - The earth went in fire one. I thought he- I just thought the storytelling was great. I thought visually it was beautiful- - Indeed. - And the music. There was so much good. You know, if somebody's doc, you don't get the music in them. - Yeah, we're good. - You got to actually hear this shit. - And earth with fires got a lot of fucking slaps. - Yes. - And a lot of people. A lot of members. I could see why the splits would get a little complicated. - I'm not playing with 14 people. - In fact, I'll just keep it all. - Let me tell you something, right? I'm not slipping with a nigga playing the trombone. Like, no fuck that. Nah, man. Yeah. Watching the people leaving into the group, watching- hearing their childhood stories, how they grew up- - Yeah. - I didn't know, a lot of stuff I didn't know about, like, the separation from his mind. All this, all this stuff. And they have the actual members participate in it too, which a lot of times doesn't happen with Docs. - Yeah. - Or it's the other extreme. If the members participate, it feels like the info merchant for the group and it doesn't feel like it tells the truth about the group. I thought it was a nice balance. - That was crazy. Like, half the band had to go get job selling TVs and shit. For a while, it's crazy. God, deep. How long is it? - How long is it? - Two hours. - Two hours. Alright, I can't wait. I'm gonna check it out. - And just one last thing, just the scene where they get housed about a part of the fucking- - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Is a great scene where they perform it and they perform. They got, yeah. - They got smoked. - They got smoked. Yeah, pre-versus era it was Like hey, we gotta go back to the drum board and it did That's a respectable smoke though for sure. Yeah, that's who you want to get smoke Late 60s something. Yeah, maybe early 70s. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you go get smoke. It was it was a time where you should get smoked by people Yeah, it was right when they first formed as earth wouldn't fire because because Maurice was drumming for what's my man's name the piano jazz guy but I'm sorry just to disrespect them by not remember the same, but he formed the old his own group and they opened up for George pretty early on and just got fucking smoke that Clive shit can't open up with some Motown shit going on Yeah, I mean, he's either gonna fires why I thought of it No, yeah, no, it was great. Also, you should really how freakishly talent some of these artists are like even even as he's talking like he's playing the keys He's like, you know what I'm just drum yeah, he just started drumming professionally like he wasn't like some clap. He wasn't even vocalist. No Wow, they're just so gifted, but it's a it's a great film. I think everybody should watch it Yes, he's wanted to do watch for sure. And where is it HBO HBO HBO Oh, that's where I've been watching my fat girl cult dog. Is this a cult for fat girls or a cult about fat girls both Say you I'm coaching Back to that one eighty five for your coach you can send me no He was did he was 500 pounds enough. Oh shit his weight requirement if you've got under 500 pounds So the guy so the guy who long story really really short the guy who invented the chip so Convertible roofs on cars could just go Who invented that chip has a house and invited a bunch of fat girls To just be there, okay, and he kept feeding them Taping them and recording them and he married one of them and then the black girl he had some kids with but He was he was sexually abusing People know well so they say he's didn't right there saying they got him In front of the lake. Yeah, they got him sitting down. No, he's not in front of him But just you know solo professional shot so he's sitting there saying no, I didn't do that and then she wanted it And then but it's a mess. It's three episodes. It sounds good. And they got all the fat girls beer too. So No, for real. I believe I learned all type of words like feet feet or is him who now? Feeder is a feeder feeder is like to feed. Yes It's it's it's a kink. It's it's whoa. It's his kink Where he like feed when you get off on feeding him feeding them more seeing big people continue to eat and it was just It was great. That's the next level. Yeah, I'm not gonna kink shame, but yeah, I was a little different. Imagine that that would be a fire That's a whole microphone What big bitch big bitch head You think Let's get on some negative room. We think you think big bitch head is the best head. Yes, nigga That's the reason Instant gratification you might none of the first I don't ever do your mouth like this. You know what I'm talking about the issue I do you take a big model before it's like they last meal Big girl head is Corrigally the best brand ahead you could get I'm not gonna say it's the time. This is what I think personally I just think they care more Like that's the key to a good job, huh? That's the key to a good Yes, like a girl really likes giving head skinnier. You're big. Yeah, she gonna be fired some girls me feeling like it's a chore It's a task. They don't really want to do it I'ma fucking big girls get yeah, yeah, yeah, like they gonna get comfy But I don't want to separate you between the girls who love giving head and girls that don't the girls that love getting head They could go sit out there somewhere in the conversation assuming everyone loves giving head What brands are did this drunk drunk white girl head drunk head period? Yeah, I can go either way Whoa, whoa, they can be a lot of teeth that they can get the teeth in your shit You know, I big girl head is dope in 2013. I was inviting them big bitches over just to eat And get like turned on by that that's that's not my thing, but I had a chef and the chef always made a meal for two anyway And some of them big bitches will have like a nice full Lip or a nice mouth situation where you will be like hey you wouldn't come over for dinner on Thursday I wonder and they would come over and the chef would bring it and it would they never seen a chef the big bitches They'd be using the once-dove old college shit. No you told my baby to go play they'll go go anyway Yeah, the chef will come bring the plate and the chef will eat and we will eat and then we will stop eating She didn't even look like she was in give head position like stay ready ain't got to get right She wanted more chef boy or d. Oh God. Oh God. She was so good at it. I know I didn't give enough dick for whatever she wanted to do Yeah, when you ain't got it when she when she loves sucking dick so much that your dick is not enough. She looking for more She's not doing the balls and the day night. Many bitches are brown. Yeah, if I am more dick bitch Judges boy. We not to do not to the knee my nigga. I don't even know Don't care about it. And back in the day like 2005. Are you going back? You don't way back like 2004 when me and my niggas was hot to try we would get a kite Mother fucker. Yeah, these bitches have a pajama party in Virginia You remember when the kite had come to you. Yeah, it's a few of them out there They have a pajama party in Virginia. You want to drive up there? Who got a car in the drive up there? They could take a drive up there They got how it turned out. We all such assassins We all wanted the big bitch. We knew the big bitch on the pajama party Niggas kept trying to sneak hug the side room but niggas kept banging on the door. Yeah, what you doing? Yeah, nah you ain't come to that Nah, we on that. Yeah, come out No, no, no, we will have a team meeting before you go get that fucking now. No, nigga. That's that's something. We got a disgust Oh my god You get your fireman is in the bathroom with the big bitch of the pajama party. Oh my god I moved to Virginia as it had you look of apartments anyway on the worst day in the best day nigga Three niggas. I'm talking shit. I ain't a head guy Sure Funny you should ask mark All right, the NBA finals are over the new york nicks are still your NBA champions We sold the most merch. We had the most people at our parade We had the highest point differential and what the only team in history to end the playoffs number one and offensive rating and number one and defensive rating Stop playing with us But there's still other sports that you guys could indulge. Yo, and speaking as a fan of a championship team I gotta tell you the offseason feels so different Yo, I see y'all y'all all into the Greek freak stuff Look at y'all Who's gonna be oh with the Greek freak gonna go. Hey, guess what? Don't give a fuck. We go niggas Hey, he ain't he'll scare nothing. He ain't scared nothing. I sent it to tell you them to think I'm about to give a Greek freak shit y'all talking about Miami with the Greek freaked up Yo, it's more time passes. It's feeling more and more like, you know what I mean? We might have to repeat on these niggas because we spend the block on the People we was looking for the Celtics whoever brass Stevens trout out there. We want to see them niggas. We want to see them boys We want we looking for them. Yeah, jeez man. We look for them boys Detroit y'all know we want to see niggas wants anything. Hey, guess what you will Hey, we ain't talking no smoke is the champs nigga. Fuck y'all talking about out there. Yeah, it's nicks summer. Holly be back next year. Holly Oliver Oh, yeah, the Pacers thought they was looking for us. I'm gonna be respectful to the Pacer fans I was only worried about the Pacers when they had been a digmathering They traded them I don't give a fuck about what the Pacers talk about. I don't give a fuck about that Hey, we went and did what the Pacers couldn't do which was head out West Get our ring and go and home to our families that love us, man Haliburre and we hope you get better that 10 hamstring shit in game seven. That's gotta be that's almost like if Jalen Brunson Woulda got hurt when women yeah, uh, whatever's name is Tried to bring Jalen Brunson's tried to break Jalen's brunson's ankle a few times But you know what happens when your star players strong We play we played through the pain We don't get carted off the fucking court in a game seven niggas. Why you wasn't still shooting with a broken keelies of some shit So we're not worried about the Pacers pistons Celtics heat or their calves repeat Repeat time What a brunnie go to the Cavs you know what? No LeBron you mean don't go No, I wouldn't be no, that wouldn't worry me But listen, it's plenty of the sports for you guys to look at WMBA is on and popping World Cup is rocking. I can't believe they let Norway come over in do that whole dance and time square and win the game You see a little robo shit throwing it. Yeah, they're a little robo shit in the North and Norway niggas try to do the Norwegians They got it off though What do you want and I can't say nothing messy broke the record is the world cup. There's baseball Homeboy won the Masters damn. What's his name won the Masters due to one in 2023? It's a lot going on so let me give you the ish picks of the week not before I explain how this works Pick two or more players look at their projected stat line and pick more or less on you for your chance to win big I don't have a read to get through because prize picks as you guessed it's still count A money So the ish loser picks up the week ish is going with Angel Reese for more than 11 and a half rebounds Camilla Cardoso for more than 13 and a half points and Katelyn Clark for more than eight and a half assists Don't forget to download prize picks right this very second and use promo code B to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 line up only on prize picks the official partner of the NBA So now in walk back time. I do want to walk back my opinion on B2K versus pretty Rick. I'm taking it all back really Walking it all walking it all the way back. I think B2K might get dog walked in that stage. There you go. Shit. I went home and thought about it B2K ain't got but fucking one and a half albums Think I forgot about that part because I was actively trying to Create a single when their run was happening when bump bump bump and all that shit was going on But then God, but I mean if you want down the B2K sound track maybe two and a half albums and Pretty Ricky has two albums. I Think they're pretty Ricky's music Let's start yet aged a lot much better than B2K Yeah, so some of that shit that should have been it that that is a slap for B2K today the Girlfriend ago. I got anything I'm in that one. It's that one That's gonna go, but all of these songs got that poppy feel to it Not pretty Ricky Nah, pretty Ricky. Nope. Oh pretty Ricky. She all pretty Ricky should sound like it could go today And we'll go today. It goes today. That's just sound like a each town record with a little Wayne verse all of it all of it So and then you add that to the fact that I start pretty Ricky with three guarantee points because I don't think anything B2K Has could beat their three big singles My body which is body which is a hot line and grime with me Again, don't be stupid There's nothing they could do with it. So I mean three zip already now it's gonna be a battle of the album cuts and Freaky freaky freaky freaky freaky freaky freaky got a couple more joint. So I mean Yeah, I got pretty Ricky when versus has become a thing of you know, guests appearances and all of that So they might have to go they might have to go to be together. Yeah Yeah, we have to Marry, I may have to take over and start doing the features and bring out some folks I got records with To make it competitive anyway, there's a couple of these other pretty Ricky records I forgot about When I made my my initial take this button a little and this is one of them here Now I And I think they perform better than B2K So They like each other And I think they really hate B2K. I think they hate them. I can see that why If I think I'm better, we better than y'all but y'all been getting all of No, no, no, no, it was out before B2K. No, no B2K came out in 2002 2001 2002, I know because I didn't have a single Pretty Ricky came out as I was trying to promote a single for my second album that my label was never putting out And that's what he said and that yeah, so I said B2K came up before them. Oh, okay Yeah, they came up first they came up first Yeah, so yeah, I got five is B2K. Yeah, that's all run. Oh five Cuz that's what I was called on promo tour at Florida radio stations. I went to Florida promo run And let me tell you who was on absolute fire in Florida. Pretty Ricky And that's what plus your peek into his back freeze. Do you think that a mario has enough to go against me like if a mario Takes over does he have enough to go get over mario and jumps in then B2K wins, but B2K loses Cuz mario jumped in if a mario got to jump in for B2K to beat pretty Ricky didn't y'all lost really Okay, I'm already on jumping and makes it makes it a fight That's how I see that cuz pleasure. P got a bag of his own Pleasure P bag don't want none with a mario. I'm just saying if it's pretty we go. No, no, no, no, no What I'm saying is if pretty Ricky is already winning. I'm a pleasure P rights. Yeah, but he writes But I gotta look at the record if pretty Ricky's already winning if we just looking at the groups Oh mario makes it competitive now pleasure. P's bag will still push them over the age. That's all I'm saying I'm not saying his one on one right. I'll be watching. Yeah, I'll be watching either way T.I. Got some hot water for some shitty set up here about verses. Yeah, yeah, he called me and said flip What did I say? Did I say this? I said, yeah, you did. Oh, is that why they texted me asking me for the video? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I say it's on patreon. He said man, I don't know how to word patreon. I said let me say you a screen recorded And you know, yeah when he said verses was for poor people, but he went on TMZ and explained it He said it was poor people activity. What was his response? He said yeah, I had a few drinks up there to Joe what in the podcast? We just true. Yeah, I saw it and he said it a lot like another drink Did you drink that hot top shelf room? I need no, no, nobody drank that juice. No more. You didn't trust that. No, because I wouldn't explain it Not a bit worse Why do you why you buy that bullshit liquor here and got all the good look at your house? I thought I was but so I Know about whiskey shit like that, but like rum to me. I always do just buying McCarty, which is the smell of yeah He's my part, but then when you're climbing so particularly you parts climb me so much about buying McCarty I looked on the list. They only had two kinds. It was McCarty, which I knew and was it nephew Ray and nephew Ray and nephew. Could you make a shit? Yes, and the ray and who bought that? Like fucking lighter fluid, but here's the thing The ray and that should cost twice as much as the as the McCarty so you know being a bird You I ain't gonna lie that look like some shit there be no, are you fucking Doing COVID Niggas was cleaning their body with this - Come on! (laughing) - No jokes, I didn't take it. - I should taste like when I used to steal liquor, I'm a Paris liquor can, dude. (laughing) - The bottle looked like that. - Yeah dude, bro. - That's such a rare thing. - Ever clear type shit out. - That's strong. - I don't drink like that. I just saw it, so I was like, "Consumore must be better." - There is good rums. - What is the rum that people should be buying? - And what makes good rum? - It sounds like ads, so I'm not gonna be doing it. - I know. - Like how do I buy Jamaican rums in like, you know, like rums from other places, but like, when I just go to store, I just buy what's there, 'cause it's a Bacardi, like. - Bacardi's not the end of the world. - Oh, now I'm sick. - It's better than that. - Okay, I'll go back, I'll go back. - As long as you're not getting, like, I feel like you have like Bacardi razz or something. - Like that. - That's a Bacardi Le Monde. - I'm not a fucking 22-year-old girl in the 90s. - That may be it. (laughing) - The other problem with Mona going to that store is, I got a good guess in my mind as to how much money she makes every month. And at that number, you can't go to Delaware no more. - Mona. - Mm. - You have to move from Delaware. - I said that when I seen a story one time and she was just filming out the window. I was like, oh, you can live in Delaware. - Just maybe not where she lives in Delaware. - But here's the problem. - She live in a good spot. - The one she explained to me was, when you live in there at a certain time, all you go one way is you to center student downtown, other way you in the hood, and in a good part, everything shuts down like four or five o'clock. - I get sure. - Even like a bag of chips, you gotta go to other direction. - That's how they keep good people in the good part. - I mean shut up, shut up. - No, that's how they keep crowned up. I'm dead ass. Everything shut down at nine o'clock. You have no reason to be outside. You don't have an excuse. - Your town. - What you doing here? - No, in your town. - Right. - Everything used to shut down at nine o'clock at night. You have no reason to do this. - That's true. - When I saw, you have no gas stations open. - You can't even say yo, I'm going to get gas officer. And if they see y'all around there. - Wait. - And shout the one who's holding it down for being mature. - Thousand percent. - Pay mature, more mature than me. I love moana for that. - You know what I'm talking about? - Yeah. - I'm not a lady, but a man. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - You talking to me like that? And hands to somebody might be recorded, no. - You did to that whole shit up ahead. - But no, shout them out. I really, I like how she handled it. I really think that's a good point. The camera shit, not just with moana in general, the camera shit will make you do shit you will. - It will amplify it. - You almost camp back down. - You know what, one way or the other, or the camera shit can make you feel a little bit more mindful and say, you know what, I got a chill. Because I got shit to lose. - Right. - So I'm sure the camera reminds you of that. - Yeah. - Like, you know what? - Mm, can't do it. - You can't take a L on camera. - Who you saying goodbye to? - Bitches, nigga, who you, who you, who you, who you saying goodbye to? - I don't understand. - Who you saying, who is this to? - Sometimes it's hard not to go to the store when they're killing us that. Sometimes it's hard not to go to that block when things got to machete. - Hey, all you gotta do is play this song in your head and picture the people closest to you crying up a storm. And it'll change your old door process. Hey, if you do that, you won't let it Delaware no more. Hey, if you listening to this broadcast from Delaware, leave now. Get outta here. - Hey, that's me, Joe. - Delaware, Delaware. - Yeah, Delaware. - And that's me. - There's no taxes done. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - That's a whole bunch of bitch-nice. - It's just, I don't not listen to you. There's nothing there. - That shit is not going. - I'm not going. - Let me get this cool. - I'm not going. - I'm not going. - I'm not going. - I'm never going to go in the Delaware. - I'm not going to call you, Joe. - Never going to call me for what? - The mail, somebody-- - You know, my shit, I turn down. I would turn down a trip to Delaware in a New York second. I'm not going to Delaware for nothing. Let's, I'm, Delaware Waffles on my way down south. I'll stop over the air, but stopping in Delaware for something. - That's a walk away. - Yeah, that's a mile. - No, I know it. - The mayor. - No, it's a walk away. - As soon as you get there too. See, that's how even the Waffle House know that, you know, stop right in the beginning of Delaware. Like, if you keep going, it ain't for you. - I was getting right here. I seen something going around last week on Instagram. It was doing on, if all the hoods in New Jersey did like a warrior-style hand-hand combat with all the hoods in New York City, who wins. And the consensus was that New Jersey would absolutely dog walk all of them New York hoods. Partly because it's barely any real true hoods remaining in New York. Like, they were saying with gentrification, like, how many places are you telling somebody that you shouldn't go over there in New York? No, they're going wherever the fuck they feel like. - Yeah. - With the exception of maybe six places. - Yeah. - Seven places. - It ain't like it used to be. - Yeah, it ain't like that. - It ain't like that. - However in New Jersey. - It's a lot of that shit here. - It's still quite a few of those. I just thought it was interesting. I never thought about it, but nothing about it. Yeah, I ain't never got beat up by nobody from New York at all. Never. Never, never. No, I'm never. No, never. It's never happened. - Really? - Yes. - Okay. It's like it's a dick, y'all. Oh, I mean, when it was a. - I'm saying you live because it's a dick. I know, have I gotten hit by people in New York, of course. But have I gotten beat up from somebody in New York? - That's never happened. We've got you. If there's a beef warrior style battle between New York and New Jersey, you're riding with Jersey. Are you asking me who I think would win? - No. - No, what side would you be on? - Inside would you be on? - The winning side. - Oh, so we did the games this winter. That was in New York. - Where you did that? - Atlanta. - Charlotte. Atlanta. - It's a lot of mix in Atlanta. - Charlotte. DC. - Atlanta. - Oh, I'm so done with the Florida. - Atlanta. - Oh, no, no, no, no. - I was doing the other news. - Brownville, Ben. I just came from Brownville. - I just came from here. - Oh, you want that Mona time? - He's still here. - Yeah. - Now Mona was on the flip time. - Yeah, stop it. - I'm not arguing with you about on camera. Shout the Mona man. I fucka Mona, yeah. - You do a whole theatric scene when you about to get beat up somewhere you shouldn't be. Like, you walk to your car, take your watch off, pop the glove compartment, close it, tell OG this walking. You know, no, no, no, no, it's cool. It's going to leave. Michael, do not do them. You do a whole movie when you got to do the game. - Byno was there. Shout out to Byno. - Shout out to Byno. - Shout out to Byno. - Too good. Byno was there. He was whispering, flip, let it go. But here's the thing. I've learned my lesson being outside in Brooklyn three in the morning with a chain on a mother gassing when they pulled it off my neck. I learned being out there thirsty, doing what I wasn't supposed to do, playing around with family. I mean, at home, playing around, they get to get right, yeah, I'm not playing. So, you got to beat theatrical because even when they pulled it off my neck and I was yelling because I had, you know, I had a friend with me. I was yelling, they didn't care about none of that shit, they make us care about $1, they make us care about the minivan. They didn't care. Brooklyn, another place. I don't go. I don't go. And boy, the party seemed to be looking nice. And some of the best food. Some of the best food. Some of the greatest food I see on socials is right there in Brooklyn. I hit a double tap and scroll away from that little lobster. Have you ever had a Dumbo? I'm cool, huh? Did you have a Dumbo runway when you were going to Dumbo? One time and one time on it. I ain't playing all of that shit. Come on, Joe. Please, Nick, as I know, I lay up outside of Dumbo. Wait for all you stupid nicks to come right outside. No way. They won't. Yes, they will. Oh, shit. Yeah, you know, I'm cool. Y'all got to have Brooklyn. Even when I call beat up for his esthetician who I'm Brooklyn, I called for the for the home fee. Hey, how much you call it for you to leave there and come to Jersey because I bet. Yeah, I bet I'm going to Brooklyn. It's cool. No Brooklyn got off for nothing. No, I like that. Especially most of the parts. It depends on what part. It don't matter. You go to a show when I used to when I used to run around and chase pussy. A lot of it was in Brooklyn. And to the people out there that identified with that, they feel me. They feel I don't care that they changed it. I used to go to Brooklyn for pussy. No rough is here was in bits of her first can at all attention anyway was not a music per se but meet mill was I see it on the board me with another tweet man he sent out a link I know let me read the meek tweet man meek is guaranteed to give you one you know hold on I got it one thing for certain y'all go always report on a meek tweet they're usually pretty great they're absolutely great we never get follow-up which is why be man like he come to he come to Twitter he say what he need and we never hear nothing about it again and we come in the bar we clown and then that's the end I want does the same thing I want to know if he got progress tweet me tweeted I need a doctor in AC. I messed my hand up. It may be fractured. Yeah, I'm good, but I might need a soft cast. Anybody that could help me? That's a whole lot of time was it? It's a good question. Important question, yeah. No, 6.41 p.m. What a high-side of that. Yeah. Pretty really. So Atlantic City. This is what I want to say and I love me and I think it's a fair question for you don't understand. I understand that people hurt their hand and I understand that people need soft cast. Right. I would assume you go to the hospital or urgent care. At best, I might go to Walgreens or something and just grab, grab, grab. Get something to hold me over for right now. So I think I don't get what he was looking for. I know that. I mean, all of us know to look at those places. Was it like hope for something? No, but it could be now I understand a little more context. If you are local, you know it could be a shitty hospital and it could be the good hospital. So niggas in your timeline and be like, yo don't go over there to blah, blah, blah. You're going to be an emergency one for seven hours. Maybe killing niggas over there. Go to this hospital. That makes sense. So that's the possibility. It don't make sense. Although this is the thing is a good hospital in Atlantic City. There's very few good things in the lake. Maybe that's why he tweeted it now because he might know. That's true. Me being an ACLIC. He did fix them AC, didn't he? No, no. There's absolutely zero reason to be in Atlantic City. If I sit here long enough, I could get y'all a list of hundreds of places. Not to be nowhere. You don't need to be at all. Atlantic City is one of them people move from a length city and go to Delaware. My dad was a little time she used man. Unless you gambling, I don't need to be in the length city. You gambling if you're in the Atlantic City. With something. You gambling with something. Well, I hope Mick found the property. I'm glad you claim because there's a thing. A lot of time people clown make for shit and what he says actually makes sense. He just doesn't sometimes explain the reason why he's asking. Yeah, one thing you're going to do. Should've killed me. I think you could also just like ask whoever you're there in AC with. They might not be from AC. Fam, you could ask somebody in AC. Or somebody that you you got somebody. He can ask thousands of people. Yeah, true. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yo, why are we talking about late night activity? Yeah. This Brandon Marshall thing. I think it's interesting. I have mixed feelings on it. What happened? So Brandon Marshall made a post on social media where he's showing him forcing his son to run at 2 a.m. as well. How does this son? How was it, kid? How was it? Yeah, I did. How did he look? Well, yeah, it was on video. Look at this. His heart is pretty much the big guy. So it's hard for me. No, I don't want to focus on his the wrong age. But he was young and I want to say like 10, but I could be. I mean, just looking at him real fast. But as any posted it and said, you know, this is not my friend. It's my son. And I'm teaching him to be a warrior. You know, I'm teaching him discipline. It was a punishment for something. And the kid very clearly didn't want to be running at 2 a.m. Nobody wants to be running at 2 a.m. Except like Rocky, right? It's about to be lava. He about to be. Oh, yeah, I got it nailed it. Okay, so he didn't want to be running. And so the internet isn't an uproar. They said that this is child abuse. Here we go. That this is not healthy parenting, etc, etc, etc. And I want to know a job for him. I have mixed feelings about it. What is that mixed feelings? I would, I don't think we should physically beat our children, right? Yeah. So imposing discipline that are alternatives to physical physically beating your children seems what makes sense, right? There's a point where the physical punishment or the physical exercise could be nowhere. For example, if you spank your kid, mm-hmm. And I'm not gonna spank my kid. I'm gonna have him do a thousand push ups. Same. Yeah, I mean, like I'm not sure that that's better. I'm not saying that's what this is. I'm just saying. So I don't want to say that just because you didn't spank him, that makes it, yeah, I know, but here at my point, I'm saying I don't, I don't want to assume that just because you're not spanking him, that just, that any exercise is like an acceptable alternative. I'm conflicted on whether you should have your son do that or not. Actually, I don't feel good about it. The thing I have issue with, the thing that I would not have done is put it on social media. I don't like the public shaming of it. You know what I mean? I can't say I won't have my son run it to a.m. I might, I mean, you can make a case to me for why I shouldn't and you might persuade me because again, I'm on offensive body. But I think when we discipline our kids and put on Instagram, I think I think to me, that's the part that I don't like because it feels like a little bit like there's a humiliation that comes in with that. What's it a disciplinary thing? Yeah. Oh, yes. So, so yeah, it wasn't like I want you to be a good runner. Oh, okay. It was like you didn't, that told you say your brother some syrup, that type shit. Got it. Normally I'd be, I'm against the whole put it on Instagram, put on social media shit. But today, that's what matters to them, to the children. So, it's like I got a, I almost got to affect you in your world. I got to, I got to put this out there in the world where it matters to you. Is that different than our mama's coming to school and beating us at the school? No, it's the same. Same thing. And again, I like that, either for the same reason. I'm not, again, I would have the kid run personally. I still would discipline the child, but I'm not against putting it on social media sort of affect your world. Got you. I wouldn't do the running part, but whatever you decide, it's anybody. Here we go. I was putting five years for that. Oh, sorry. LA Santa Monica running at midnight on the pier. We go on it to do that. We love to do that. And then there's correction and there's discipline. You're walking run. Run. Discipline correction is good. Even two in the morning. We run. You know, I'm going to put my hands on you. But I'm training you up to be a warrior. I'm training you be up, to be a leader, to serve, to have discipline, to be better than me. Run. Run. Let's go. If you don't start running, we're going to go three miles. So you better start running because you don't know when I'm going to tell you to stop. You don't want to listen. We run. We work. Two of them. And he's in the car driving beside him. We should be going at eight or nine miles per hour right now. Go. We get to nine miles per hour. All the way to the gas station, which is three miles. The far one. Two. The far gas station. I have to close one. Tell them. I'm at five. I'm at six. Here we go. Now we moving. Run. Discipline. See, that's the tough part about being a girl. That like waking up. I'm not opposed to it. Wait. Do that. Getting out the bed. Come on. You didn't listen. Come on. Run. Right. Eight miles an hour. Come on. I got to grow dancing. Come on, man. What y'all think about this? I think that we're just in an age where any type of disciplinary action is going to draw some level of criticism. Like, I thought we were going to make some jokes. I think about what? We got daughters up the run. That's one, two. I agree with it. You know, my mom did to me, boy. See, that don't bother me. You know what I got? People look at them punished. No, he wanted to quit. He's like, no, you can't quit. Yeah. But I mean, you're training somebody. That's any training. I'm saying like, I'm okay with that. But he's training. That's what he's doing. But there's a difference for me again. I don't I'm conflicted about the particular choice. I think that's up to him as a parent, right? Because I don't think that's abusive. I just think it's just a question what you like. For me, it's the social media part of it. That's the point. I like because you're welcome to beat you at the school, which I also think is awful for all the reason. For all the reason. For the rest of school year, you kind of was a dude who got his ass beat at school, right? Yeah. The problem is the internet. It never goes away. If I do something at eight, I'm 17 and it's still there. I'm running from president. Until they call you the king of New York and you put the crown on top of your head, because y'all just want a national champ. I'm because y'all just want a championship, the NBA championship. And now people look back and call your father an amazing person because he pushed you at one o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in the morning. He was humiliated in that video. Yes, it wasn't it wasn't fun. He was being pushed. I think it was a nice. And he wasn't being humiliated. He's saying you're done. You know, he's making he's in a truck ride and next to him telling him if I just truck get I mean, come on bro. Yeah, we laughed just now before your mom before your mom came up to the school and beat you. How many times did she talk to you? No, you showed out in the school. Yeah. How many times did she warn you? Yeah, you got to show this country. It's a compliment. It's a compliment. You are embarrassing me. You know, you don't learn these things in this house. We have manners in this house. We have respect in this house. And when you step outside this house, you are embarrassing me, your father, your family and thinking that people. Let me give you a raise. You like that. I just remember my mom and I gave trouble. She definitely made you run my mom. I had to walk on the bell parkway, nigga. Cause I didn't want to listen. Yes. On the side. I did. I was disrespectful. You disrespecting me your father and I here. I don't care. She told me before I went to school and they got throwin' rocks off the roof until all goin' traffic. - You could kill somebody. - Exactly. - My issue ain't the walk. Again, I'm talkin' about the social media part. That's the only thing I'm talkin' about. - You have to, I think with any kind of discipline, you have to find what matters to that kid, and it has to affect them there. That's the way you get through to 'em. Like, whether it be, I gotta family member where, they must've made them wear the exact same clothes of school for a week, because all they cared about was how they looked. - Yeah. - So now I'ma make you wear the same outfit for a week. It's whatever mat with me. When I, the first time I came home with Fs, which was freshman year. - I'ma take you to Atlanta. - They came and took all my music. - Mm-hmm. - All that shit, give me that walkman. - Give me all your shit. - All your shit. - All your shit. - All your shit. But, again, but you have to, you gotta, that's what makes you sick. - Today, today, today, with our kids, yo, as soon as they fuck up, give me the iPad, the iPad. - What year was this race? - I don't necessarily agree with that. - freshman year school. - What do you mean? - Let me ask you a question, I'm not tryin' to argue. Okay, if they can't, if I can't take your iPad away from you, because that's what you cherish. So this is a form of punishment that I'm gonna get a response that I wanna get from you. What, what type of-- - He just, he agrees with it. - No, he just said I don't agree with it. - I don't agree with it. - The variation part, he said. - What? - He said I don't agree with the iPad. - I said I don't necessarily agree with that. And the reason I'm saying necessarily is because, - Oh. - They got PBS and shit on there. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Yeah, I can't take my PBS. It's my kindle. It's because, and I think we did this with my daughter, when she was a teenager. She played her iPhone as a punishment. We took it for like three months, it's good. No, but the problem is, when we were growing up, saying you can't have the phone met, you couldn't use the phone. When you take away somebody's phone now, that's often, these kids don't go outside. You're taking away all social access, you're taking away all the, it's a bigger punishment. Then, so I'm not saying you can never take the phone away, I'm just saying, when you take the phone, it's not the same. Saying something, you can't use your phone, it's different than saying, you can't have access to any social media, you can't have access to any-- You can't call us in the case of emergency issues. You can't do anything. The stakes are just higher, but my phone-- They don't want to pay phones. Again, just so we could-- Just don't work with-- Our ages was 6, 7, 8, and 10. Yeah. They don't have phones. Their iPad's the only use in the house. So, it's not the same thing with them. I have no issue with that. And to be clear, I'm not criticizing any of your individuals, parents, I'm just saying, as we think about the punishment, sometimes they have to be bigger. Because what we found, what my daughter was, when we took away the iPhone, which is different than the iPad admittedly, it wasn't, it was a much bigger punishment than we expected. We didn't realize how isolated she was from her friends. We didn't realize how I-- And it actually created more problems than we expected, because in the length of it, the punishment. Oh, yeah, you went three months, though. That's what I'm saying. Now, you don't go that long, you go an appropriate amount of time just to let you know what it's like. You can't access your friends. But it's hard. You don't want to lose that access again. So, do what the fuck you're supposed to do. Now, here's the thing, guys. Just use this-- I don't think my daughter built-- I think my daughter-- I mean, I use the exam. I don't want to say, because she's an adult now, and I won't hurt her to make her-- Got it. But the punishment that we-- The first punishment wasn't three months. The first punishment was three days. Then it was a week. Then it was a month. Then she snuck in using it anyway. You get what I'm saying? And at some point, it's like, do these punishments work. Find an punishment that works I'm good with. Finally, I hear your point about-- you've got to find something to care about. Everybody cares about not being humiliated. Everybody cares about not being embarrassed. But to me, just because you don't want to be embarrassed is mean that that embarrassing them should be the punishment. I just struggle with that, especially on social media. Because, again, everything lives forever. Again, they call him Rick Bronson, a genius. But he wasn't being-- There was criticism for how hard he was training him. He wanted to quit. He's like, no, you're not quitting. No, I think correct me if I'm wrong. I think his mother was there. Or something, and was like, no, let him go. And he's like, no. So again, your punishment is punishment. What you call overtraining somebody, and what Brandon Marshall was calling training, low-key, when you look, and his son is-- The results can all American first, while receiver picked in the draft, people going to go back to be like, yo, that is what training looks like. It would you say, the results may be the same. But the overtraining and punishment are two totally different things. They're not even close. One is being-- one is a result of an action. Brandon Marshall made him do this. Now, he might train him regularly cool. We talk about this particular video. Brandon Marshall is running with him. He's in the truck. Got the kid running because of something he did. So this ain't just your punishment, too, a year. Yeah, and the rig runs in case, I want to say that it was under the premise of, at any time, if you don't want to be a basketball player, say that, we'll never do this again. But if you want to be a basketball player, you have to push it. But if you want to be a basketball player-- Yeah, this is what we're doing. Right. That's different than I'm punishing you for an action that you did. I mean, we're doing all this hoonani because of some non-physical punishment. It is a physical punishment. He's not being beat. That's true. You're making me run three miles of physical punishment. He's running three miles. He just threatened him, saying, I'ma make you run three miles. Okay, running three blocks is a physical punishment. No, it's not an intention. Let me ask you a question. No, no, no, no, no. This is just a definition. If I ask you to do something physical as a punishment, it's a physical punishment. Well, whether I make you do the chair on the wall, it's a physical punishment. Yeah. Hold it in front of your hands. It's a physical punishment. When we say physical punishment, we're talking about physical abuse. I don't think you're making your kid run three blocks or a mall is necessarily abusive. I don't either. It can be. It can be. It can be though. Putting it on the internet. My issue is the internet part of it. You know what I'm with that too. Like there are ways, because Brandon Marshall and I are in the same fraternity, right? And I know which I think is really interesting that he's doing it this way, right? Because there's a long theory that the only way to enter a fraternity is by beating people in. And then other people say, well, there's other ways to impose physical discipline to create brotherhood other than physically beating people. Calesthetics being one of them. So I'm with Brandon on that. I don't have an issue with that. I think, again, let parents decide what they want to do. As long as it's not abusive. I just think that when you humiliate people, and I think the internet runs the risk of creating humiliation for people-- There's less than a humiliation though. Yeah, absolutely. It's major less than anything. Some people say that I bugged out for coming on air in front of all these people and telling my story about Dre. I can feel completely opposite. I'm on the total of this idea. There's a lesson to learn that you didn't get from all other places. So let's try it this way. And as it turns out, hundreds of people-- you don't tell me. All week people come onto me, just knocking sense into me. So I mean, there's a difference. Joe, let's ask a question. There's a difference. And what I think you're trying to say is when you bring it to the internet and social media, it never dies. It never goes away. So Trey could be 50 years old. And so Mike can still come back and bring this story up and play this and throw it in your face again. You're telling the story of it. What if you had the nest footage of him getting the beats? Would you have put that on-- would you have put that-- would you have put that on Patreon? No. Right. So if it comes up, if someone did, let's say the guy put it up, that would live forever. And that would be far-- I think the value of that would far outstrip. Like, would he got from that? The value this week has been great. You told the story. He's also an adult. But you told the story. He got the lesson. Cool. But at the video, I want to go up. I think they're the same fruit more than Jalen Brunson. And my point is, the physical image of somebody being punished is humiliation. We're all alone. Possibly. I'm sorry, go ahead. I just want to ask a question to Mark. So what do you say to the parents that exhausted all their resources in order to discipline a child and nothing happens? What do you say to that parent? I don't think there's ever such a thing as exhausting. Yes, there is. I think we-- I think we all-- If you-- I don't believe-- Why do you think military school is the last option? I think it's the last option people choose. There are other things that could be done. I'm not saying they're wrong. Again, what I'm saying is that oftentimes, before we do something physical, we always say we've done everything else we could do. And I'm saying that there are often other ideas, other resources, other things we can do besides that thing. I'm not saying that particular thing could be necessarily wrong. Again, if you want to send your kid to military school and you think that's the choice, have at it. That's not my issue. So you can't beat your kid. You can't make your kid run a block. And you can't put your kids punishment on the internet. Bro, we talked about that. Again, I didn't say you can't make your kid run. We keep saying that and then arguing it back down. He said the recording. I'm saying make your kid run. I'm saying just don't videotape it. I'll do you say it. Yo, Joe-- He just told the story of making his kid run. I would have been fine with it. If Joe were to show the tape of "Tray Get And Beat Up" by a guy, that's nowhere near the same as me having my son run some blocks. We're not going to make them parallel. I didn't say they're parallel. You're missing my point. The parallel is the fact that the video is forever. That's what I'm talking about. And so when he 20 years from now, if "Tray Get And Beat" is asked what, by some stranger whose porch he stepped on, it's going to be viewed totally different than me making my son run as a form of punishment, three or four blocks down the street. They are not the same in any way, but you're talking about on video. That's not humiliation. Yeah, you're talking on video. On video. I also don't believe in the whole way if you do something online and live forever. As a nigga that'd be looking for the doofy shit niggas was doing in 2014, today it's tough to find. It can be. It's tough to find. They can't be people. They're going to race on us. That meme still pops up right now. For me in closing, this is my take. I'm not telling it. I'm not saying it for it to be your take. I'm not telling nobody how to raise their kids. I don't and have never hit my kids. I'm not into that. My kids also learned slower than me. Maybe as a result same thing they don't learn it as fast as I learned it with all of this gentle parenting shit My mom took that yellow belt out. What she had to do was a cat I better fix up My mom off the threat off the looks I'ma get you And I know to go home put long johns on sweat pants on some other shit and put my jeans on top I was so Sleep and hope she on wake you up When the teacher the principal is I'm calling your mother and they knew what time it was the teacher and principal knew what was happening We are now I got to go phone home take the fucking phone off the hook on the sneak tip I got to do I got to change the one one one time I think I answered and was a parent like I was a dad Not nigga I used to do I used to forge signatures anything to not let these teachers know when I let mama know Yeah, no, I was back when he had the old answer machines No, I used to fuck it out. He's put a whole new tape in there because I was fuck it up I mean on a race half of it and all the half come on. No, we put an old new tape do delete that number off the call ID box What I might even change the machine one time. Yo, this yo Joe button. Don't have a parent You know if you're looking for a parent Joe Savannah button. He's raising itself and if you take that and consider it She's doing pretty good job Anyway, yeah, we making these kids run and we beat them and we put them online nigger. Take that shit to the cold Take that shit up here with Janice joblin Was your favorite three Janice joblin song, I don't have I'm just talking shit. Yeah, they they were they were clowning on cloud Davis earlier Yeah, he died yesterday. I know that but what you mean they were clowning him In fairness, we were comparing on a very Gordie just saying who had the biggest like Impact impacted or in like talent development talent finding people say who they said I said cloud Davis and they would the right answer is very Very good, but you can listen to the first white answer is cloud Davis got you What else is important Important unimportant. What else needs our attention? Oh, I want to sing I'm gonna sing you this clip Joe Of neo and his girlfriend Okay, okay, shut out the neo neo still a friend of the show even though I don't like now one of them country songs We put now like now one of them Who get three girlfriends and say you know what gold coach? I'm going country You don't like that he's doing it. Oh, you don't like how I like the song. You can do it everyone. I just don't like it sound good I'm cool So no one in one of neo's girlfriends like called Brooks One of neo's girlfriends was on In interview, I think she was live and one of fans sort of asked like how he Divides time amongst them or how he has been time together and she offered her explanation The young man and all of you three at the same time Figured it got big house Recently he'll just like see how long he's gonna be gone for furniture would help So yeah, that's going on at the moment A bunch of you love that hard right now So you have to sit through all the all the all the the messiness in the clip Scheduled so my schedule wait for a day. They got a spreadsheet. I'm talking about schedule I thought if you had three girlfriends this sounds like way more work and less fun than I would have imagined having three girlfriends I thought if you had three girlfriends, you would get rugs You know you'll get what I didn't even see the video when I can hear it. There's no I'm on the furniture three ways. Yeah, like The first through the 14 I Don't I've never had three girlfriends at the same time like this, but This does sound fun. This sounds like more work you got to do like Because you everything you do on the first you never had three girlfriends at the same time. I said like this where everybody knows they the girl I don't need to respond that you know he thinks he knows oh he knows who he just plays dumb Well, he knows how to be obtuse just like he did with that running shit. He's just he's playing dumb for y'all Oh, so he know that you this works that so when he said that I how can Possibly be I ask my brother to me you saying that he I don't see it. He was fully aware you wouldn't He goes a motherfucker man So just drink your fucking coffee and move on to the show. Let's get back to Neil Y'all know now just sound like y'all ass cheeks whistling when y'all do it together Hey y'all shouldn't make no noise That was them. Oh, now I'll take it back Three girlfriends. Yeah, so what do you make? I mean you you got insight on this It sounds like a headache. I don't have it inside. I'm married. I don't have no. I met in some neo. You're a pop culture person Um, I mean, I don't think it's that difficult once they all on the same page I don't know the pop culture every day. I look y'all are gonna distract me whenever he say I don't give a fuck that was a distraction Yeah, I don't know listen if your three girlfriends are on the same page and it was going on It shouldn't be that difficult. I think it makes things three times easier But the three times harder made that they schedule You coming into one place I'm in the one unfernished living here I thought in my mind it was just you got three girls. They just want to grab y'all fucking all the time You over here. You over here. You do you think it from you have no sense like no, you know, but they all know you it's and you Islamic So and in your faith you could have up to four right? I would never want that. I'm just saying you could I'm afraid I gotta have equal shit. Yeah, that sounds like a that sounds like a You think I know time to be doing all these it's an equal shit, so you don't even have as many wives as you're faithful to allow Don't say that again. I'm gonna get mad anyway They're talking about legal marriage like when you actually formally commit and marry somebody. I said I won't want to do that to two people Can't respond no, okay, so again drink your coffee No, no, I ain't fucking You might have been trying to use baby trying to use me to make you feel some type of way, but let you know you didn't know me yet But that don't mean I couldn't respond to you. Yeah, I mean I couldn't make you feel I got your button on my line You could have yeah, you could have felt some type way. I hit though. Don't believe Back to my coffee. Yeah, thank you expeditiously Okay, yeah, I think I thought like pelican me a polyamory. I always thought I was more like Freewheeling and fun and wow. This just sounds like you got to manage three relationships Don't anything more than one girl is too much now. Yeah, they are knowing it Yeah, but one thing the same pain I'll be annoying a beginner Okay, not to get it, but three day three anybody is a pain. That's why I'm only gonna do three Keep swapping into I got you Yeah, man, I can't even imagine trying to cheat in the age of unrealistic expectations from chicks Yeah, what does that even look? Yeah, you know, honestly speaking I can't even imagine being single with these expectations Like dog to be single like certain not everybody's expectations not the same So I don't want to say that, but you know my nigga a date is 500 Potentially be 500. I want it. You got it. Who you not to be dating multiples. I got one date Every too much You know said without a shit is crazy like the expectations are just nuts Like I don't want where we stand in the Bahamas. You mentioned all I just want to state it You imagine if all three of them are mad at you at the same time, which they probably are space I'm crazy something like yeah I absolutely I've slowed down but I used to try to make my girl mad at least once a month just to get that freedom feeling how many more days you got yo and you'll say that live one air is crazy you know that you know I know I'm just saying I'm like somebody I do how many more days you got so how y'all get your freedom freedom week or freedom day that mine I feel like I answered his last part good I'll stay in the honesty for me all the time so I'll still be my wife go out enough that I just might for her to go my part I want you to fuck about ma sure I love it she checks me today she's about to go watch some soccer game Haiti for somebody some shit I was like go ahead my girl my wife works as well Mark wife getting shit off on him no you don't care I'm just the part you missing every time he bring his story Brazil she's okay she's going with a personal trainer she's fine he's a good guy I could have tried it she to about oh we moving so they came and took the mattress I got to go to the hotel there you know they know he tried it she wasn't put a pallet on a floor put the sheet on the leg on the dog bed lay on my bucket put a little sheet down oh damn I don't know what she's look like anyway I'm talking to you oh my god hotel you're a girl checking in the old tail without you I can't imagine it but when it come to these topics it's fun it's fun that I know that me flip and ice are crazy and you in parks are not that's true that that helps me when we do this on air like this fair we are no me him and freeze girl please yo you still got a new you still got a new map quest fuck with me you came a final shit make it well tell what yeah Mr. Wendell were fucking survived for years at home you can do a couple nights on that instance right your girl yes y'all move to California yes you go there as the man to set up shop first yeah then she comes right so you want your family come after of course all right cool so now they they take the moving people come they pack all your shit up they put it in the truck where's your girl stay home in house where she sleep on the air mattress yeah I have a couple of those that good joint they got the shit now with the whole house the price of a hotel for the night but they got a they got a fridge and that ring drover oh yeah let's see back it's a fridge back there yeah nice and comfy I'm gonna get my ass I'm getting fucked up somebody's a segue us into like this thing the job of his wife man I'm telling the truth I was in New York last week I don't like that though I don't like we she's a she's a she's a nice lady no she's a wonderful lady that's why I trust her like if she in New York for the night and she got a meeting the next day I'm not coming don't travel all the back to the Chris yeah when you know I see y'all at issue on this thing to get when you 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do you think I like when you do that it's I like when you go up there and just show it to you yeah he killed it yo it's really killed the dog hey y'all never let me think about it and if you walk him too thank you I'll create you do a couple interviews I don't know I don't I come there a couple of times I don't think I got no single I said no I don't have a single right now stop bringing them now I'm black man that's my friend of the Joe I'm always in all of our sisters yeah we shut all of our sisters oh your sister's sister's shit my wife now my wife is a fan now is amazing and I appreciate you for allowing me bring it up bringing her up here and Sharon um her with the world all right thank you all right Mark segue us to segue us to something bad before Grenade call we didn't mean oh Nancy Guthrie is dead but it was an accident but I don't understand why they were still what did they say this like a long time ago they say this officially they said I read an article in CBS news which is fairly review the mom right that they said that the ransom note and a note came two days later from the same IP or whatever it was email I think it was from the same IP address and the second note was saying that she passed we didn't mean for it to happen but she's gone and just obviously the ransom that's correct so why didn't say that all this time for months I don't like that I mean they have proof though but I don't know this is why I'm confused like why why see that's proof to me what somebody say if the person who got it if the person that was supposed to be in a bedroom it's not there and then the person might say yo we took we took out of it we got a bad idea didn't want that said the ransom note and we want a million dollars yeah I'm gonna take that serious and she's no longer one and if I look everywhere like if I say if I was a mother we would have mother be like she was like I'm gonna think there's some credence to these letters as all I'm saying and we ain't saying the sense maybe maybe this person know what they talk about I got to hear how they accidentally killed Nancy got three but she was very old though yeah me yeah didn't take much to kill but I want to know what the accident was because they all right yo what was that yo yo what he did yo this thing is dark we did yo that was fucking god I'm not repeating that you see you got to you got to rewind come on do the rest of the piece of Nancy got there if she is in fact gone just to be clear Savannah still wants help finding her mom so she came to the body she came on to the today show today uh and said I love you guys and I love this place this is an unusual and unprecedented uh to say the least to be sitting here I don't have any comment on the story the one you just mentioned yeah and I'm not involved in the coverage but I can't pretend I'm not here uh and so since I just want to take the opportunity to ask people to really to beg people to come forward somebody knows something and this is a new story today that's when you're radar but this is the life that my sister lives that I live that my brother lives that our extended families live that our children live every day and we are an agony we cannot be at peace so she's begging people to come forward to help her find her mom and to figure out what's what's going on I think a life I was the kidnapper and had the mom in the back room that speech wouldn't make me go back there and I'm tired or would it would not would not yeah nothing you just read is gonna make me go back and I come on let me send you back oh no if she's gone rest in peace I don't know what I'm sounding sensitive but if I'm the kidnapper and she's gone and she just passed from maybe a heart something or something she's older and they already have my IP address I'm not about the risk putting myself out there to return you the body of what a ransom note says "If you give me $4 million, then I'll return the body." - Did they pay anything? - Not to my knowledge, but I'm not in the kidnappers in a circle. - That must be a hell of a quagmire. If you kidnapped somebody in a diet natural causes on your watch, like, you're still gonna get charged for that. - That's what I'm saying. You're not just getting charged with kidnappings, so now they gotta make some tough decisions. What do you think, Ish? - What'd you think? - Huh? - What do you think? Ants, one more. What do you think? Thoughts and prayers. - Yeah. Thoughts and prayers, man. Shout out to her. That is a painful thing, though. - Yeah, it is, for sure. - Yeah, I can't even-- - It's a very fucked up. - If someone stole my mom, I don't even know what I would do. - Yo. - Can you fucking stop, bro? You got the chain, nigga, like, God damn. - I don't care about the chain. - Stop doing that shit, bro. Tell me about your family and it's just telling you to ask for the chain, nigga. - I'm just putting you in family. - You just put your family in? - You just put them on my love, nigga. - I would be-- I would be devastated if somebody kidnapped my mom and told me I had to pay $4 million. - Would you pay it? - Hm? - I don't have $4 million. - Would you pay it? - I call Joe, Joe, if Joe, front it. - Have I met your mom? - No. (laughing) - That's the question, that's the question he asked. - I have a mom. - She's like, "I might even like you, mom." (laughing) - She's cool. - Well, he's got to meet the lady. - Yeah, man. - He's fair. I did my best. - You're so dumb, man. - Well, you're crazy, yo. Mark is nice. - Uh, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else? - Absolutely. - So, I think that we couldn't solve this event at Guthrie mystery, but we were able successfully in the last $40 to solve the Jay-Z hair controversy. - Oh, that's true. - The internet. And I actually, I'm actually happy this happened. So about two days ago, I think Beyoncé is the one who released it, but it's certainly, it's a mini documentary about Jay-Z's hair and the transition from his locks to blowing out the fro. Jay-Z, Beyoncé is narrating it. She's doing the voiceover. And she's telling the story of how that happened and why. In the documentary, she talks about why Jay-Z initially got the locks, which was, right, which was for Blue Ivy, who wasn't feeling as confident about her hair as they wanted her to, and they wanted her to love every aspect of herself. So Jay is a kind of solidarity and love. - Fire. - Yeah, he did that with his hair, which I think is dope. And then, for the transition, for the roots picnic, they showed the transition. And she said she was worried it wouldn't come out, but it didn't, it showed the whole process. I love it for a couple of reasons. One, I love what he did for his daughter. I think that's a beautiful thing. I also love the capitalism of real. - You say? - Love the capitalism of it all. - Which part? - That's a commercial. - It's a commercial. Oh, I mean, I don't love that part. - No, I mean, but we live in a world where commercial is. - I love that part. - It would be selective to say-- - I like that part. - Word. - You've always been anti-JJ's capitalism. So I was curious how you felt about this capitalism. I'm anti-all-capitalism, but I work on a show that has advertisements. I say Prize-Pix every day. It's not like, you know-- - Not every day, but-- - Since I started playing. - Because I started making money. - Prize-Pix! I mean, beat my chest for prize-Pix. - Yeah, 'cause when you first came in, you was standing on the air. I think it was quiet. - Yeah. - Well, I wouldn't say that prize-Pix. - Why wasn't it in the Prize-Pix resources, either? - I was a big page, but once I got that right, you know. - Failed my voice. - But it wasn't paid, but then back in the year, I was good. - But you know, I'm anti-capitalism. - Yo, man, do you imagine how much more money you would make if you just came out and said, yo, a small part of me is down with it all. - He is down with it. He's definitely-- - That's what you're gonna say. - No, I do say that. If he says it, I think that nigga money go all the way up. - But I just not willing to do what it takes for it to go all the way up. There's certain things that I'm not willing to do. Like, grow dreads and then get them-- - See, I don't think Jay did that for Capitalism. I think I believe-- I don't think he did that for it. I think he did it for his daughter. I believe it. - I don't think he did too, and I should just tie up a coincidence. Like, all right, well, since we're gonna do this, we can also-- - There's a profit here. - We gotta come to that. - And that's the part that I don't love, but I don't, you know, you can't avoid that. If Warren Buffett saves somebody from burning building, I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't be like-- - But then he just all happened to bottom block. - Yeah, I'm tripping right. Now, did he own the building right? But the act itself is fine. And so I love the beauty of this part of it. I love the story of it. But I also love the fact that the internet makes up shit. They just make shit up. And I love the fact that, 'cause everybody's saying those blocks aren't real, shit that we shouldn't even care about. I really didn't care. But it's just a reminder that people make shit up. And most of the time, Jay-Z and Beyoncé don't respond to the shit that people make up. So people just assume, well, if you didn't respond, it must be true. So this is just an opportunity to say, you know what? - They still responding, making shit up, even with this. They say, and that's the late story he got on. There's people in, man. There's people like, you know, listen, dog, first they going by his age, there's not a great strand in sight. Then they were saying, some of us, I saw a couple of people that have men that have longer hair. It was like, yo, there's no way the hair here is the exact same length as this one here. Your hair grows differently all that time. So that's the lace for it. Like they're running with it. - That's so funny. - Some people, you just can't prove it to 'em. Like they're gonna have their thoughts. And no matter what you say or show them, it don't matter. They're gonna believe what they're gonna want to believe, and that's it. And it's a lot of them. Especially right now, it's kind of a little, I don't know if it's like the tightest turning, but like, whole was like universally loved. And it seems a lot of that is changing. So people are looking for anything to attack him over now. And they rotten with it. And they like hammering any point they can find. - And that's the part I don't actually like, because there are legitimate points of criticism that we should have, and then there's a bunch of shit that like his hair, whether it's a wig or not, they're stupid. And they all get mixed into the same pot, you know? And it's like, it almost cheapens the other critiques. And it takes the weight away from the stuff that we should be saying about people, you know? I don't like that. We saw that with Nikki, right? There are things that be critical of Nikki. And people are saying mean things about her kids. It's like, let's not do that. Like that's personal, that's mean, that's not okay. We can have principled disagreements with people. And it all gets thrown into the pot. I think somebody's just generational. Like now, there's not the, we have a reverence for our generations artists, and they don't, they don't. They don't, they fuck them. Yeah, true. And they look at our generation, does that? And that's what happens, because we keep pushing, I mean, a lot of us will be like, nah, whoever y'all name it, it don't matter. Jay-Z's to go, yeah. A lot of times they get a little tired of that, and like, yo, fuck y'all, fuck y'all, go. And that's how you end up with Nikki's disrespect in Marvin Gaye. Oh, this way. At that part. Ann Berry Gordon, his crazy. Ann Berry Gordon. I'm about to be honest with ya, shampoo, don't we? I'm so, I was saying, that should help me. What is the product being sold? No, I'm not being funny. She sounds like a bunch of, it's a shampoo. Yeah, she got a haircare line. Got it. And that's what they're saying he used to do. Yes. To help his hair grow. Yep. I didn't watch it today, and I ain't going to lie. I just saw, I wasn't hurt to shit about blue. I was like, my heart was tugged, and I was done. We got you all. Yeah, they got me. They showed them taking the logs out, and all that. I saw something to comb it up, I didn't, we got it. We got it, we got it, y'all. We got it, one Jay-Z here. Thank you. What you got, Joe? Oh, holds hair. Now, this really should have went an hour one. But I waited. When I tell you, Doug, that shit that the sheep stealer did-- Yeah. [LAUGHTER] I hate you. You let me find out your authority now. Doug. Oh. The sheep stealer. He ain't coming to play. No, no, no, no, no, the fuck you told me. He's doing whatever he wanted. Yeah, he ain't coming to play at all. Show me a video. Listen up. I got to pull it up. Now, listen, this might be the meanest dragon that we've ever seen on House of Dragons. Now, he's a little special, so things. And Reyna. He got the-- He got the underbite. Yeah. But the way Reyna-- All right, man. [LAUGHTER] That's just shit, man. I'm serious. Y'all ain't see it. No, I do. If you're only eyed, then y'all, I-- I won't spoil it for people, but-- That shit came on the same time. I love Reyna more. Season three of House of Dragons is out. Not only is it out, but many people are saying that that was one of the greatest House of Dragons episodes that they had ever seen. It probably is the best section. Yeah, they said that that-- House of Dragons hasn't been written. It hasn't been written, so, yeah. So, yeah, but I saw people saying that season-- that first episode could have been the season finale of the main shit, and everybody would have been happy. If it was the same quality, yeah, yeah. That's possible. They did a lot, they did a lot. Yeah, I see it. You gotta see it when sleep's dealing with them. Sheep. I mean, sheep's dealing with them. Sheep's dealing with sheep's dealing with them, man. Seriously. You didn't watch it? Are you a thornian? He's a feral dragon, but he can't tell me what I watch. Reyna's the feral dragon. Yes. He watched that shit, bro. I'm telling y'all, I watched it. You might not believe me. I watched it. All right, but you don't know what was going on. So? There's a little recap at the beginning. Catch it. I'm going to get the fuck out of here. I watched all the two seasons before this, and I know who's going on. I got to watch the recap. You've got to watch the recap now. Look at the family trees in shape. A year or two between seasons. You forget what the fuck happened. Who's touching the recap? You got to have a recap. I love the reason. I got to have a reason. Is that his mom that he's kissing? If the fuck it is his mom that he's kissing me. God damn it. This is weird. He's kissing the whole thing. God damn it. Back to the incident. And more than a week passed, I forgot whatever was on in the last episode. I did see it. So, yeah. Watch too much sheep. Especially with Game of Thrones. Yeah, I got it. Damn near a different language. I'm going to go back and watch the fucking Jared from subway doctors because the one from 2023, I am. That's it. Just guns. I hear you, bro. You've got three episodes. I think he's home. I think he's home. He better not be home. We pulling up. I think he's home. We getting him off the streets. Get him off. Get him off. Get him out of here. Fucking out of here, Jared. What else? What else? What else? What else? We ran through me. video of the the young man pleading with the judge, saying that he thinks his life sentence was too harsh, considering he had the same role in the crime as he did. That bug, man, he did call her his girl for all this girl. And then the judge was like, well, I don't know if this is your current, if this is your former, but apparently she got 15 years. - She got 15 for the manslaughter. - He gets life, but he was tried with the whole crew. - And that was part of what he was saying in the judge. Listen, I feel like injustice has been done for the same exact role. I got a way harsher penalty. And I feel like I'm being penalized because my group, I was on trial with my group. They did a lot of bullshit. They got life, so I feel like I get life. And I feel like the destination played a part because we were here and she was wherever she was, but he laid out a case that sounded strong until the judge started talking like, yo, dog, I'm gonna give a fuck about what you son of it. You done? They said from the rip that they didn't play that shit. Like again, they traveled up there to Tampa to do that. And even the police department, they was like, yo, we are, they took that shit super serious. Was like, yo, we not having that up here? Like we gonna make examples out of everybody. Don't bring that shit up here. Whatever y'all got going, keep it down there. - Yeah, y'all. - So that whole. - Kill each other and jump. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I'm coming up here with that shit. They try to make examples out of all of them. I heard this sincerity in his voice though, when he started appealing to the people from the hood. He's like, yo, bro, yeah, the shit ain't worth it. The shit ain't worth it. He's like, yo, we killing each other, we doing this stuff, we doing that stuff. Only person that's gonna support you is your mother. - And maybe your friend. - He was like, yo, it's just not worth it. So I saw, I only saw, I saw three of them. One of them seemed like he ain't giving a fuck. But the light skin kid that had the turtle neck on and homeboy just now, honestly, they seem like they was decent kids. And then we just began quote up in the street shit and what we think is cool and what the neighborhood is saying and what these rap songs are saying. And it's making these little motherfuckers go do dumb shit. These kids sound like decent kids. If you took them out of whatever they was going on. Even though they-- - Yeah, that's where he's moving. - They're decent kids until the murder. - They're not decent kids. - He's trying to say that they grew up in a housey-- - Yeah, but it's easier. - It's easier. - It's easier. - Better opportunities and others. - It's easier said than done. - What I think he's saying is it's easier said than done. - It's easier to not go shit. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - What the fuck were we doing? - Look, it's easier said than done. - What I'm trying to say is, I could see a world where a good kid following behind somebody gets in the car with them and go do some bullshit with them. That might not be of his normal character. And now you got to deal with the consequences of that. One of the dudes there, I think that was-- I think Fulio, I could be wrong here, has something to do with his cousin being killed or something. One of them niggas there was on time and he showed no remorse. He knew what it was. He just waiting to go, you know, send me up. - Yes. - Like, yeah, I did it. Like, the whole trial and you could see a person like that maybe recruiting some people to, yo, come on, come slide with me. And they might have just been, I don't know these niggas, but just seeing the lack of remorse and then seeing these niggas look like, oh shit, I made a mistake where one niggas like, nah, this wasn't a mistake. I knew what I came to do. I knew what came with it. Sign me up, it is what it is. - Him, I'm not talking about. I saw that he feels vindicated in his mind. - Yeah, y'all, yeah. - He did exactly what I meant to go out of there. - He's proud that he should do. So I'm not really talking about him. - But you can get people that might not understand the gravity, all that shit, yo, come on, we get ready to go do this. Come with me, whatever, or you trying to get down, but you wanna get down, come do this. And they might not have been built to that now. That's all I'm just not calling that kid a good kid once he makes that decision. - Agreed. - You're not a good kid. Your man talks you into not only getting in the car to go kill this little young nigger on the night of his birthday, but if we take in all details into account, y'all stalk the kid for fucking angels. - Yeah, he did. I'm good, it's just not the adjective that comes to mind. - It's other words. - It's the same story. - You could be right. - No matter how homeboy voice sound, I'm watching the shit and all I can look at was his arms, all I can look at was his arms. So no matter how his voice sound it, I'm looking at his arms and I'm like, yeah, this is the kid that gotta go grab a gun or somebody do something to him. He ain't even gonna look like he got not near fighting. - No, nothing. - That's how you look. - That's what my mind, that's what my mind with. - I think what freezes talking about is the kid that you're just riding with your cousin, you just having to do something to him. - No, I think that leads us to this place. - Okay, but that's not what happened here. - Okay, but you wasn't just riding an unbeknownst to you, a nigger pulled out and just started killing somebody. - That's not this case. - I'm only talking about this specific case. I'm not going on these kids' good kids. - I think it's fucking terrorist. - I think that, I think, not a bad point. I just think that we minimalized these issues in these communities so easily that until that shit really hit you like, you're just killed somebody and I'm looking at life in prison and I'm never gonna see my family. I'm never gonna see my friends. I'm never gonna see all that shit. The shit that we took with a grain of salt really ain't to be taken with a grain of salt. It's some real, real, real consequences behind that. Do you see somebody's family crying in a courtroom that you did something today, kid? That shit hits differently. And again, when you listen to these rap songs and you seein' all of this shit, it ain't really, really, really paint a real picture of what's goin' on in our environment. So some of these kids could be low, corny as school boy kids that just involved in the neighborhood shit and unfortunately the neighborhood shit be beating niggas up and shooting niggas. - Then you're not a good kid. - All right, cool. - Cool. - You can, you can get a good kid and change overnight. - Wait, what did you say? - You can be a good kid and change overnight. - That happened. You can have good grades, you can have, you can live your life being respectful to your parents and you can get picked on and then change overnight. And then you take away the fact that you was a good kid. - Oh, was this past tense? The second the change occurs, you're not a good kid. - I see what you're saying. Maybe that's the question. Maybe I'm not a good kid. - I'm a good kid. - I'm a good kid. - I'm a good kid. - I'm a good kid. - Somebody that's not murdering people down with the murder for hire, put money on somebody's head to be murdered, stalking someone to be murdered. - Prepare to murder. - Yeah, I'm dead. - Sorry, I'm just dead. - There's other, to your point, there's other adjectives. There's probably better adjectives. - Yeah. - Miss Guy did a lot of sad unfortunate situation. There's a lot of things that you could say, but good kid, I have a good kid. - Yeah, you're not a good kid. - I'm sorry. - You know what I'm trying to say? - I'm saying you could have been a good kid and then have gotten let us try. - That was me. I was a good kid in Jersey 20, a billion years ago. And whenever the crowd went over here and we was trying to be block versus blah, all right, I'll run over here. We'll fucking beat this kid up. All right, you punching him in the face, no worries, all right, we'll jump around. Guess what, once those things start to happen, I ain't a good kid. - I'm not a good kid, yeah. - I'm not a good kid. I don't give a fuck what my mom's friends have thought about me. I'm in the streets as a menace. - I think that's the challenge sometimes is that, as parents or as adults, elders who know you, we remember the best part to you and we see the best parts to you. Well, I think we have no idea who their kids are when they walk outside that house. You know, you still think, oh, that's my baby and sometimes the baby's, like Sam Jackson said, and it was a juice, I know a lot of kids. I know a lot of kids. - A lot of kids, it was killing us. I mean, it killed us. - It killed us as kids. - Exactly, like sometimes you gotta remember that too. - Real quick, and I wanna, I do wanna get off the subject. I'm familiar with the situation with a kid who was good and his brother got killed. I mean, he, overnight, changed. And he vowed to get vengeance for the, you know, to the person that killed his brother, then after that, he just kept on going and going and going. - I mean, shit. - That was the trigger point for him. - I, you listen to Vaughan's music. That's kind of what he said. He saw his best friend get killed in front of him. He said, that turned me in that moment. I snapped. - From that turn me into someone else. - Now, King Vaughan's name is made. - No, I'm just talking about people that speak on this shit. - You're niggas, are you niggas cream? - I don't know where the fuck you came from, bro. - You have like people, shit don't happen that. - Cause, you just agree with what he said. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying. - Like you don't know what we said. You know exactly what we said. - King Vaughan wasn't a good kid. - We don't know anything about him. - We know enough to say he wasn't a good kid. - You can't say never. - God. - That's the point. - You don't know what I'm talking about. - You're sure about it. - You don't know that your boyfriend died and the dean was born and he killed 39 niggas. Got it. Got it. Listen, I'm unconditioned myself from something stupid hip-hop shit. You all want to carry him? - I'm not even talking about hip-hop shit. - King Vaughan was a good kid. - I never said King Vaughan was a good kid. - You're putting words in people's mouths. Nobody said that. We're just saying I'm speaking to him specifically saying something he saw changed him. I'm saying thing Flip was saying that where the dude's brother got killed and in that moment he changed him and then he became something else. - I'm saying to you, I think King Vaughan, in that story, it's full of shit. King Vaughan is full of absolute shit. May he rest in peace, one of great, great artists. - So you think he was a bastard in some happened and then the demon was born? No, you was doing bad shit and seeing something bad happened. - You wasn't just where you was supposed to be, just straight A student, and then you seen something bad. - There's plenty of people that have something tragic. - That didn't happen to him. - There's plenty of people that go through something tragic and don't go out and murder a bunch of people. - I'm for sure. - Yeah, like, you know, once that dude was there, yeah. - Yeah, I was there. - He's the brother I'm trying to understand. - Yeah, that's something. - How? - 'Cause everybody, - I wouldn't say that if it was a different trigger, like some people trigger it and they go left. Some people get triggered and go right. You can't necessarily say that because they pick left that if left is murdering a bunch of people, yeah, you can just, I'm saying for whatever it is. - No, I hear what he's saying. - For whatever it is. - He's saying that the fact that some people have awful things happen and don't turn out bad, doesn't disprove the idea that the thing bad that happened made some people go the other way. Just like some people get abused and become super abusive or some people run alcoholic. - And they become so gay. - They become so gay. - And something never touch it. One doesn't disprove the other. It's just different people have the same different reactions to the situation. - I also think there's situations where actual good kids get caught in situations that they might not have even been in the car with the murder or knowing the murder happened. I thought people that grew up with it went through this. Those are good kids that got caught in a bad situation. They got their life fucked up. Let's save the good kid tag for those people. - Okay, that's where I was. - The people went out and murdered a bunch of people. - We wasn't calling them good kids. I didn't call Vaughn a good kid. He didn't call, "Do the good kid." You just said that something happened and they put them on a different path. I never said he was a good kid. - I don't know that niggas childhood. - This thing was different path implies that before you went to different path, something different was happening. - It might not have been that path, though, bro. We can't say that. It might not have been, I'm going out the murder a bunch of motherfuckers. I might not have been the best kid. I could have been a gang member. I could have just been doing shit for my, I could have been selling drugs. - I'm saying. - Don't necessarily mean I'm out here killing a bunch of niggas until I saw somebody that I love, got murdered right in front of me. And now I'm pulled with my name and pulled with blood. Now I gotta go get back for him. And now that shit, it woke something up something me. And now I'm out here laying my fucking down. - Now it's just a circle of fact where, because I did something to this person. - They coming back. - They coming at me. So now it's just a literal thing to happen like that. And the one thing that sparked it all, could, I'm not saying it did, it could have been him seeing somebody get murdered in front of him, that he loved. - It's a possibility, bro. - Yeah, I'm here to send a possibility for you. - Everything in the world is a possibility. - It's the only part I'm not getting. 'Cause I, I hear you, that everybody wasn't an angel before they became this other thing. - Are you then saying that some people are just born bad? - Yeah, you are who you are? - There's some kids just, 'cause they were never a good kid. - I don't know if I'm saying that. - 'Cause the thing is, if they weren't, if they were never a good kid, then it means they were always not a good kid. - That's what I'm saying, yeah. - So he sort of had to be on the highway to make it a bad kid. - I think there are some people that are born bad, by the way. - There's some people that have been raised in perfectly normal, non-traumatic situations that are fucking murderers and monsters. Like, I think that does exist. - That's why I'm asking, I'm trying to get a sense of how y'all see this. I don't have a dog in the fight. I was just curious to know. 'Cause if you didn't become a good kid, you became a bad kid at some point, then you had to always be a bad kid, right? - I think there's something in you, before you even get here, that will determine how you respond to certain stimulus. So, depending on the type of person that you are, it could affect you positively or negatively. You could, that same trauma could happen to two people, but depending on who they are inside, their reactions to that are totally different. - Love that, that's it. - Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Some people just are not the most empathetic people. - And when the world sees what your reaction is to some things, then you may not be a good kid anymore. - That's true. - But true, any more. - Sorry y'all, just disagree about winning, where the-- - No, that's true. - I disagree about everything about that. I disagree about every single thing that these people have said on this time. I don't think King Vaughn was a good kid. I don't think this-- - Joe, nobody said good kids. - He's implying it, though, when you say-- - I mean, I saw someone die and that's when the demon was-- - I wasn't a murderer. - Don't mean I was a good kid. - High school kid, that's all. - In listen to service goes the Vietnam. Kills a whole bunch of people on Vietnam. Now he comes back totally changed, and he was before he went to Vietnam. He was a murderer in his whole life. Or did something trigger him some stimulus that he saw and that he witnessed and that he lived through, change him forever? - Good one. - That is a good one. I don't have a retort. I do think that if you sign up to go to war, you're some level okay with murdering people at some point in your life. - What if he got drafted? - Oh, that's different. - That's different conversation. - Yeah, that's a different conversation. - When he comes back and the draft changes him, nobody should say he's a good guy. - That's all that's it, that's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. We did it. - We did it. - We did it. - Who else is good? - Me, me. - The Charles Mans. (laughing) - No, I got it. No, I got to hear y'all listening, man. - I got to hear no body say it. - The list of good people now. - Not a soul said, then he will paint that. - The long Island murderer, god damn. He was good when he was four. - That's what they say to him. When the parents of the documentary, when they do the voice overs, they say how great they were as a kid. - I never believed the pain when they come on, they would be wise. - I just can't even hear how to argument for freeing those brothers from California. - Within this. - Within this brothers. - Yeah, most of the cast up here, I can't remember specifically who said it. It was like, yeah, I think there's a world where they got traumatized by the parents and they should be free. A lot of people up here said, I can't get it. - Well, I think they should be free. - I do think they should be free. - They also served 30 or 40 years or something. - Yeah, I think they should be free. - Because, yeah, they been in it for 30 years. - They did it. - Like if it's an old J- I think, right at that time, yeah. They were four. - That ain't saying I think they're good people. I just think they should come out. - We're doing a hell of a job. - You don't feel like there's any gangsters out here or killers out here that's good people. - Yes. Yes, that's a new question. Yes, I do. - So once they kill somebody, they know a longer or a good person or you're logic. - We know some good. - I think there are situations that we can kill someone. - You know, we know being a good person. - We know they good. - We gonna move this year all around the world. - I think people can kill somebody and still be a good person. In the context of the conversation we are having, I don't think that exists. - He's talking about the stalking part. He's talking about dedicating your time to kill this person. I get what he's saying. - Stalking intentionally murdering someone. - And King Bond. Throw him in whatever gumbo you make it. - I keep, I don't know. - You want free smoking. - There he is, there he is, trolling. - I know. - I'm not trying to. - No, he's serious. - I'm not trying to throw it. - I promise you, I'm not trying to throw it right now. - Well, you are because I never said King Bond was a good kid. I never implied a good kid. - But every time I say throw King Bond in the gumbo, I'm not just talking to you. - What you keep? - It's just funny now. - What's the fun of trolling? - Not you. - Got it, Joe. - You're a cuckoo, y'all. - It's like, it's nuts. - So, alright, so what makes King Bond so fun? - I'm a good kid. - Look, look at that. - I'm a real good kid. - Alright, let's see, what else, what else, what else. Floyd is pop. We knew he was pop. Fuleo, y'all get life. That was a stupid murder plan. - Well, it ain't just a Floyd is pop, Joe. It's that he got, he caught some felony charges now. One felony charge or one felony case and then his other issue. One is that they're saying he took money for the right type of fight in the back. - And the pack y'all fights and kind of didn't give it back in his kind of balance. Then there's the bad check, allegation over $20,000 bad check. That's for the watch, right? - For the watch, yeah. - And my, where he wrote a check for watch, didn't, wasn't good check. My man asked for the watch back, didn't give it back, it's been over a year and my man finally said, yo, I gotta do something about this. Like, one, I thought you were wrong on this, initially. You thought he wasn't pop? I underestimated the extent to it. I thought, you know, some of the people aren't liquid, right? He's starting to make moves that aren't just like, I'm not liquid. It's like, popped. He's pleased. - Oh, yeah. Like, he's showing his own, people's, what was it, 300 million of songs, a lot. It's a lot of money that he said, yo, what's taking without me knowing so about. I think I got certain bread and then ain't there and I found out y'all got it. And I got expensive lifestyle, I might be really fucked up now. - Is it hard to have sympathy for Floyd? - It's not for me. - It's not for me. - It's not hard. It's not for me. - Why? - I struggle. I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just saying, when I watch his, watching how he's lived over the last 20, the flamboyants, the money is hard. When I watch people, I watch people get robbed of their money, right? There's a way that he moves with money that makes it harder for me to feel sympathetic. And I'm not saying I'm, it's fair, I'm just saying it's unfair. I'm just stipulating, I don't, I'm not saying this is fair, but you say how you personally feel about that. - Yeah, that. - Yeah, it's like when I watch something like fuck you poor people and then they lose a money, I don't have as much sympathy. It's just harder for me. You know, but I still think it's unfortunate. - I feel bad. - And I also don't know that he got robbed. I hope it's true that he didn't just mismanage the money that, you know, there's some recourse that he can get his money back. - But even if he did, Floyd did. - Yeah, I feel bad. - Do you know Floyd have ever said, fuck you poor people? - That's what I'm asking you. You took the words out of my mouth. - Just because I live a flamboyant lifestyle, I don't mean I'm necessarily saying put my middle finger up to people that are poor. - Actually, I might have seen the exact opposite. I mean, Floyd, when he's in giving more-- - That nigga will go on his-- - Gave him, gave him, gave him $10,500. - Yeah, he gave him a lot to a lot of people. - Change a lot of people. - I don't mean he literally said fuck you poor people. I'm saying when you walk around-- - Do actions. - I don't see how you are could go on vacation with less than 12 watches. I don't see-- - That kind of shit. - That's a little part of a character no more. - Yeah, and I'm saying that character for me doesn't encourage sympathy. - Okay. - So let me-- - I'm just saying for me. - I think we lose track sometimes. I think that-- - Floyd was a good kid. - Yeah, it's levels to a bunch of shit, right? It's levels to a bunch of shit. So in this is where we get caught up in our billionaire conversation or our ultra-rich conversation. That's like somebody saying, yo, I have an empathy. For Mark if he hits a bad patch because Mark got 300 pairs of sneakers and that's obsessive and he don't need 300 pairs I think that would be reasonable But again, I'm getting more and more different I'm not I'm not saying I don't have sympathy because he has a lot of stuff I'm saying it's the flaunting of it that makes me less sympathetic if I walked over came with TV every day and said Y'all niggas wearing the same pair of sneakers twice fuck y'all and in one day all my sneakers got stolen I wouldn't expect you to have sympathy for me. Even if that's part of my it's wrong. It's not my story That's part of my job to be this person. Yes, and you're just explaining why I don't he doesn't I'm just saying I it makes me It just makes me less sympathetic Real quick who's the guy that said it was good for my hominalee when the guy that my hominalee made jokes about Frazier do you agree that Frazier said that he made all those jokes about me and then look who can't talk or whatever Do you agree with that no matter what my hominalee did for the people no matter what he stood for no matter where he was at Still for black people he was out there on the front lines Joe Frazier and I'm saying that about him Oh, he said I was the all-word now look who is that look who can't speak. Yeah, do you agree with I mean I would I would say he does have a right to agree with that sense what I would say is to Joe Frazier is like I don't agree that you deserve it and I think it's wrong that happened to you But I can understand how Joe Frazier. Yeah, who's on the the business into those jokes got it wouldn't have as much sympathy from hominalee Is somebody else is with for George Foreman? It's the same thing. I'll be saying about how certain people look at windy Williams Perfect example like Do we think what's happening to her is a good thing? No, but there are a lot of people that's like because of the way she built her brand if As much sympathy for her as they Because I think that people with bad hearts get brought up so much and he's type. Yo, listen to this. Not just that Floyd Not out here just ridicule on people and making a life living hell because I'm rejoicing in the things that my craft has afforded Yeah, I think a lot of people are a good parallel windy Williams was doing mean shit to people and saying mean shit to people cool Floyd made whether it's out here saying yo, I'm rich. Look Yeah, but here's the I'm not I'm not saying that the parallel isn't that they both do something unethical It's that one has a consequence to the other. So for me if Floyd is flaunting money and showing ridiculous spending And then you broke after showing ridiculous spending. I don't feel happy for it. I don't I don't I still have empathy for him And that's great. But what I'm saying is I have less I find myself having less empathy for someone who has shown what I've perceived to be reckless spending and flaunting then someone who didn't, you know that I just do, you know, and I'm okay with that, you know again I'm now if I find out that he was robbed. That's different. I have I don't want no athlete should start to get robbed and boxers seem to get robbed a lot But his story is that he was robbed and I said if it is true, then I want him to get justice for that I want I said if I remember I started it shouldn't you be it's not like he don't believe that he was robbed I just said I hope that he that that is the case so that he could have recourse and get his money back Garza how it's been it's his money, but what I'm saying is is that in general I had it's harder for me to muster sympathy for someone who has who has shown reckless spending then it is for someone who has not It's all for me to show sympathy when somebody's committed some type of heinous crime But a nigga bragging and he got a shit ton of money. No, a nigga from the bottom. No, a nigga from the bottom I'm not holding that against me. I'm either am I did that's you're mr. President my point. No, my issue is But you all lit it against them mark that he beat the odds and and came from the bottom No, I'm holding up that if you buy 17 if you buy 12 watches if you say I have to wear different watch every day I have 75 cars. Yes, if if you are that person goes begin not broke from being robbed Let me be because we're mixing two different things broke from I don't care if you throw your money if you burn your money in the trash can and someone steals I have sympathy for you haven't been right. That's not what I'm saying I'm saying that if you are broke because you recklessly spent and I see that image right and I watch the world have to watch that And I watch the impact that has on people particularly people who won't end up with that kind of money right if I see all of that I'm less sympathetic to that than the person like this is back to the brand-in-martial thing where you was like You have a problem if you put that online So it's not the fact that Floyd purchase is 50,000 watches. There's the fact that it's online that we know about it I'm showing it. I'm I'm bragging with this. There's two pieces to it. Yes There's two pieces one is the flaunting of it. I do that does make me less sympathetic That's what I started with and then there's also the flaunting of it what he's flaunting is reckless spending He's not just saying here's my bank account. Here's my money. Here's my investments. I would I that will be a little bit different to me I only don't like that because somebody on the bottom somebody on a on a lower wrong than you could always look up and say That's what I said. I said that's always. I said okay with that. Yeah, he's with that. I'm okay with that If I would say I'm with that but his shoe examples are perfect example if I was broken They said I don't got some they have a niggie. Yeah, that would make sense to this average people sentiment It's the same. It's it's it runs all in that same vein. Yeah, because having 300 pairs niggas is reckless. It's irresponsible Who who dictates? Oh, it's excessive. How about this? It's excessive. It could be excessive Yes, I wouldn't call it reckless or irresponsible. You don't deserve hardship because you live in an excessive I don't think you deserve it. This is this is where you take what I'm saying and another you don't serve sympathy I don't say you don't deserve sympathy just saying I didn't have to and I start and I stipulate with this is where our arguments go weird No, I stipulated I'm not saying this is fair true and then we have a whole conversation you all trying to convince you how unfair I agree it's not fair. I began with that. I'm just telling you why I feel that way got it got you that's it You a cold you a cold You're a cool man on breath. What you stand for and you call yo, it's consistent with what I stand for it is Well, yeah, I guess I guess kind of I think it's cold, but I was a good kid It's cold. He might have been a good kid. You're still a good kid. He's still a good kid. That's I know he ain't laying out now They've been a good kid. It's over like All right, we got through everything. I think we did it. The good guys. I think we got through absolutely everything I'll get to y'all about for real versus vans at another time. Oh Dude I'm gonna run out right now because I got to get to Nork to speak at weekway high schools graduation Shut up any inspiration of words. You want me to share with the crew? From the crew God bless them You guys you got any words Congratulations Tell also this for the freebie. Yeah, it's for the freebie. It's 100% free Fucked up the whole joke. No You leave them work to go you know These work. I think that you stand for something so I ran into the person who came the latest When it was talking about bandwagon with the money and shit like that jumping on the bandwagon who you prefer to boy Yeah, what about what? Who would you refer to in the last episode that drop when you were talking about bandwagon bandwagon just remind me I know somebody was saying something about jumping on the bandwagon. Did you watch episode back? Listen, he mind he was saying that just because we agree with Joe that doesn't mean that we we have our own mind This is what he mind he was saying something about a subject with one of your kind of partial filly And you say oh some of us do jump on the bandwagon who you prefer to I think I said all of us jump on a bandwagon for different things I got smoked with you now. Oh, I mean I think you jump on the bandwagon the most it's boss and boss agree I'm gonna get you guys. I'm gonna get you guys. I'm gonna fuck you up. I'm gonna be waiting for you outside nigga. Hey, do you go to the Trump? That's what I'm starting. I'm gonna shit with the shit that we have with the fluid. You want to thank Dr. Mark Lamont and me. Spending some time with us before his big speak and engage with me and go kill that shit Mark. Shout to the graduates. Yeah, the head of cities that we all go back to. Just a fella smell it. Yeah. See what it's like. Oh, they go my chain. Don't worry. It's coming back home soon. Probably another 10 days. I'm like that. It's coming back home. Mark, get the fuck out. He's got a lot of people to vote for. He's got to vote for you all. You got to pick Mark. Pick what? Picture. Mark. Go ahead, man. We'll take the picture without you. It's fine. We'll pull the chain up. Yeah, man. Listen, man. You're holding down. Hopefully you all have enjoyed this episode. As much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us here, Greg Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you a do farewell audio. Cereba Dernchy, Ostelebista, Arv, Watts, so long goodbye. A simple and novel surprise. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, the baddies ain't secure. The stagnant women want to travel. And the clothes minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Any plan for the week, plan for the week, plan for the week, anybody, anybody, anybody, anybody. We are out. Go on a Brooklyn a night for the wallet show that's about it. Oh shit. It's how it comes with you Brooklyn Paramount, okay, I like that spot. Yeah, fucking fucker. It's nice Nobody said what they got for father's day nothing but fucks food food back alone you're fine Jimmy too, I think Shadling you I didn't say nothing. I slap the shit out of you. Why about insane? You got it on. I don't want to get smacked if I didn't say nothing So when do you want to get smacked when I say something their warrants get to say? So why are you if I'm quiet? That mean that I thought about this man and I didn't want it So let me in some out. Yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool. I called you a laugh Shadling the princess No, that was for it. Yeah, I'm cool. Everybody All right, I'm like, what the fuck hey All right, what you want? When I got the father's there I got some cologne. I got a charcuterie board a car to keychain in a mug Not bad, not bad. That's why that's why my baby took me out and she she cut she was like you'll take you out and She overheard me talking about I wanted to get that new aura ring that came out, and she surprised me with it I thought you heard him saying he wanted to get some aura No, I got what a ring you man. No, I got I got a ring. She was talking man. I got over Sneak away Yeah, it was right here, man All right, man, what y'all over the week anything anything anything anything anything anything? Enjoy the rain You're all the down out there man rest in peace Tina Marie. Y'all enjoy your week We'll be back same time same place this weekend if God permits And that's all we got for you Yeah, baby Oh Oh I can't go up now. Sorry. Sorry. I got it. She got it. She wig out of there. I got a wig out , man, yeah, you have a good week out there go nicks go nicks Till next time bitch ass niggas yeah, go nicks championship repeat time stop playing with us They're gonna chase some of you niggas in all seasons and y'all niggas will be sick Nuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhnuhn