The podcast explores the ethical boundaries of objectification in everyday interactions, particularly focusing on how men use casual language like "damn" or "I'll fuck the shit out of you" toward women. The hosts argue that such remarks, especially when delivered without consent, reduce individuals to objects and can cause fear and emotional distress. While some see "damn" as a harmless compliment, others view it as a form of catcalling or threat, particularly when it escalates into aggressive or invasive behavior. The discussion also delves into broader cultural issues, such as the glorification of street violence and the public performance of trauma, using Gucci Mane’s song as a case study. Critics argue that releasing such content so soon after a violent incident is irresponsible and exploitative, especially when it lacks accountability or context. The conversation underscores that respectful interaction requires awareness of power dynamics, consent, and personal boundaries. Ultimately, the hosts advocate for a culture that values empathy, self-respect, and dignity—where people are not reduced to objects or narratives of violence. The tone remains critical of both casual objectification and the public glorification of street culture, urging listeners to question their language and behaviors in real-life interactions.
The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only.
I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real.
No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves.
Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home.
We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own.
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Alright, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic check.
Last looks, last looks.
Last looks.
You know what I mean?
I woke up like this.
Everybody do what you gotta do.
You woke up like this.
Good esthetician skin still going.
Your nails look like something.
Huh?
My earrings are missing.
Someone got you?
They're in that bag somewhere.
Fuck them, come on.
Do it live.
No, we wait.
No, we wait.
Last looks, we said.
Go ahead and get your last looks, girl.
Get your shit off.
I see you got your black eyes.
In fact, hair, man.
Yo, hey, I could have, I could have jumped through the phone.
This motherfucker.
Black motherfucker.
I be home catching feelings over the dumbest shit.
Mona popped up looking mad good on my timeline.
I almost fired you.
It's like, alright, we have been getting jipped.
Fuck, what's wrong with her?
Anyway.
Anyway.
So last part, I came in here.
Last part, I came in here with a Teej or Moses question.
Nobody wanted to participate in the Teej or Moses question.
But everybody kind of knew.
Everybody kind of knew what I was getting at.
We smelled what you were stepping in.
Yeah, they was picking up what I was putting down.
But we all pussy, so we didn't say it.
What's the question?
Well, it was a fill in the blank.
Okay.
It was a Teej or Moses.
Be looking like she.
Can hook a steak up.
Acceptable answer.
Acceptable answer.
And then after that, after I said that, I just jumped in the group chat.
So I'm like, yo, I spoke to Teej or Moses.
She's watching the show.
She heard what you said.
I come in today-ish like, yo, Teej or Moses want to come up here.
Like, wait a second now.
What did I miss?
Like, what happened?
Everybody get connected.
The Teej or Moses.
Shout to Teej or Moses.
Nobody.
Man shouts.
Man shouts.
Yells.
What happened?
Nothing.
Ain't nobody want to disrespect the queen.
Yeah, but how did anybody speak to her?
I didn't speak to her.
I didn't speak to her either.
Me neither.
I understand why everybody was quiet.
But when is it all right to objectify women?
Never.
Never, Joe.
Are you crazy?
Oh, y'all got some crazy.
What kind of show you think this is?
Yeah.
Crazy.
Sometimes.
How dare you, Joe?
What is wrong with you?
It's never okay to objectify women.
What if it's your woman?
Oh, you got to objectify your lady all the time.
That's required.
That's pretty much all I do.
Women fought and fought and fought.
They just were able to own houses not too long ago, Joe, and have bank accounts.
Facts.
And you still want to put them in that place?
They be saying that shit
when I feel bad.
Y'all are terrible.
Y'all ain't need a mortgage
in no way.
That is fucking horrible.
Bitches could've opened up
a Roth IRA.
Hey, we didn't count
as full humans
until what, 68 or some shit?
Get in the back of the line, man.
Y'all need the trouble
of that bank account anyway.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
Let me flip it.
Now look what's happening
with chicks getting jobs.
I think a little public appreciation is good.
Maybe not full-out objectification.
You can do it in a polite way.
Yeah, you can say
she looks good. That's a beautiful woman.
What do you say? Damn.
Yeah, I think that's. Damn's okay.
That was a joke.
Damn is okay?
Wait, no damn? You can say damn.
I say damn.
What kind of dress is she wearing?
If I walk. You look nice today
Is that Valentino
What story is connected to your show
Let me ask you since you're a woman
There we go
Sometimes I don't know
That's what the fans be saying
When you walk by and a nigga hits you with the damn
Go ahead
Honestly that's like complimenting
That's not even like scary
You from north
No it's not that cause I've said that before
Those little interactions
can get crazy sometimes
if you respond the wrong way.
But damn,
it's gassing me,
to be honest.
That's gassing me.
So as long as they're gassing you good,
do you feel objectified?
Like, I mean,
I think everybody
is sort of objectified
at some point.
I'm a comic
and I get dick pics
and jerk off videos.
Damn.
Wow.
Like, that's what I mean.
Like, if I'm on the internet
doing content,
like, the most of it is jokes.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the automatic reaction
I got from the door.
Yeah, see, that's the OD, dude.
My shorty one time said she was walking and a guy passed her and said, damn, I'll fuck the shit out of you.
And she was like, taking a back, like a gasp.
Like, oh my gosh.
That's a little flagrant.
That's crazy, though.
That's crazy.
I've heard way worse.
My thing about that kind of remark is like, who do that work on?
Like, what kind of response do you expect to get from that?
Yeah.
Like, no woman has ever said, oh, word?
Let's go find out.
Right.
Some things you're not saying for a response.
That's the thing.
That's true.
And that's why it's so ill to me.
Because what's the point?
Yeah, you just want that for you.
Like, you want to see her reaction.
She's freaked out.
She's afraid.
Like, what tip are you on that?
To me, that's the objectification
because she's literally just an object.
That's purely for your pleasure.
It ain't got shit to do with her.
Yeah, I think damn is the same.
Really?
They close.
Nah, so I'll fuck the shit out of you?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
How do you say damn?
You say damn with your dick out?
No, no, I'm just saying, like,
I think damn is objectifying.
Like, somebody walks by you like,
damn, like, you don't know the person.
damn is
I'm with this
damn is one
and I'll fuck the shit
out of you is ten
but it's the same scale
damn
I don't think so
hey she know what we're saying
no it's not the same scale
it's not the same scale
damn could almost be like
your body is nice
or you just dead pretty
damn
I'll fuck the shit
out of you is
nah
that's a comma
you said damn verbally
I'll fuck the shit
out of you mentally
yeah
no cause like
dick comma
I don't bust your ass
that's from all minority reports
so you can't get punished
for what you're thinking
I'm not disagreeing, but us as men are saying they in the same vein.
Bitch, what if we said wow instead of damn?
Mark, mute us.
I'm not wow.
Wow.
No, I'm saying like damn is just a hard one.
You look nice today.
I'm not just saying damn is just a hood way of saying wow.
That's the doctor version of how to fuck the shit out of you.
I'm saying they're not on the same scale.
I would so fornicate with you.
I'm saying damn and wow is on one side.
I'll fuck the shit out of you.
It's a whole different scale to me.
Mark, wow is not on no side.
It's not on the side.
What I'm saying is, wow is just a weak word way of saying damn.
If somebody walked by with a great body, she look good, whatever, you go, damn.
To me, that's it.
I'm impressed by what I see.
I fucked the shit out you.
It's like a threat to a stranger.
Yeah.
Not if you look fuckable.
Everything in Fifty Shades of Grey was stalking and harassment, but not in that movie.
This is true.
This is true.
The half of the Instagrams, nigga.
So it depends on who's saying it.
Joe, you wear nice clothes.
You've gone to LA.
It's happened to you before.
You get on the elevator, a guy has said to you before, like, wow, you look good, or damn, that looks good.
That's never happened to me before.
Fans, please find the video where he talks about this guy on the elevator telling me to look good and just bring that up.
A dude says to you, damn.
In five minutes later, somebody's going to be like, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Joe.
That's different.
If a guy is hitting you with a wow or a damn, see, this is why Diggins be trying to pick you up, and you don't be knowing what's going on.
Oh, you watch the episode.
He's picking you up.
He's trying to flirt with you
if he's saying damn or wow to you.
And that's my point.
Damn is a flirt.
I'll fuck the shit out of you
is not a flirt.
That's what I'm saying.
You're saying the same thing I'm saying.
Damn is flirty.
Damn.
Yeah, I know, Mark.
I think it depends on who's saying the damn
and how you say it, right?
That definitely plays a part.
Yeah.
Damn.
Because if a fat,
an ugly chick says damn to you,
it's like, is it?
You stopped yourself from saying ugly?
I didn't.
You said it yourself.
I love the fat girls
But I'm just saying
If an ugly chick says it
It hits different
As opposed to a hot chick
Saying it to you
Does it?
Not for me
Not for me
Oh this is great
Not for men
I think it's different for women
I'm not a woman but
Cause you know
If you a certain dude
You could get away
With certain shit
Facts
That's true
You get what I'm saying?
Like you could get away
With certain shit
But the handsome guy
Still can't say
I'll fuck the shit out of you
That's what I'm saying
That's the perfect point
The handsome guys ain't gonna say
I'll fuck the shit out of you
because they'll get,
they'll activate.
Yeah.
The handsome guys
just gonna activate.
Yeah,
it's gonna happen.
What am I saying it for?
I'm by myself,
you right there.
You know what time it is.
Let's put this thing in the motion.
Once we engage,
it's on.
You just,
you know about that ish.
People just put themselves
once we are here.
Right.
I'm me as the leader
of the handsome niggas.
No,
I wasn't even saying that.
I was talking about me and the girl.
Like,
no,
cause I,
you know that.
Hand him,
nigga,
Don't play with my board.
- No, that ain't my bag.
Like, hollering ain't really my bag.
So, but once we-
- A little pss pss stuff.
- He's shy.
- Once they approach you.
- No, once it, however the conversation,
however the conversation starts,
once we there, we there.
I don't have to say no ignorant shit to you.
- That's what I'm saying.
- Like, you don't gotta say I'ma fuck this shit up.
- His confidence is out the window.
have to talk his whole life
nah I ain't mad at my boy
dog which one is it
I talk too much or I never have to talk
nigga you both both
both nigga don't try to trick us up
look at him nigga look at me
yeah look at me when I talk to you nigga
so which one is it both
yeah I said you never needed words
to get it going at all
once it gets going you missed a fucking
he Thomas the Train
he gone
So Mona, so if a handsome guy approaches you like, like, like a Idris Elba says, damn, she goes, I eat you up.
You think he cute? You think he cute? I'm just saying that's what women think they like.
I used that example a couple months ago. I'm just saying, who's the handsome guy that women like? Idris Elba, right?
It's gay. It's gay. He's my type too, B-Dot.
Ma, are you crazy? He's in your guy five? Yeah, oh, for sure.
Hey, you back us on the guys? Yo, what? Cry with a brother who's overkill, dude. Huh?
Go back in the house, Ma. Ma, go back in the house.
Yo, this guy is crazy.
Crazy. The point is, if a random guy from North says the same thing, does it hit the same?
Random guys from North are attractive too. I'm just saying, just a random guy.
Or a mutant approaches you and says, damn, does it hit the same for you?
Nigga, you know who you're talking to, nigga?
Damn and damn, but one look better? Yeah.
Come on, Mona. Mona, fuck off the damn.
I don't know. Like, approaching somebody like on a catcall shit is like, do you really want to have a conversation?
Like, at this big age?
I couldn't imagine somebody catcalling me, me stopping.
When you a kid, you turn around, but as an adult, you don't do that.
Nigga, brush past you and look good, he on it, you know.
But I'ma fuck the shit out you, damn, and all that hip-hop shit, no.
Hip-hop shit, all that hip-hop shit.
What are you talking about, bro?
What, the triple glow or something?
Bro, I'm dead serious. I'm just over that.
Like, I could not imagine a nigga like, God damn, like, skin and I turn around.
Like, I actually talk back, you know what I mean?
So, what do you mean? Yo, he gonna turn around, like, yo?
Nah. Was that the one that used to get it done, though?
He just did that to me, though, recently, like, loudly.
Like, yo, pretty in pink. I had a pink sweatshirt on.
Pretty in pink, pretty. I was mortified.
Like, more.
You didn't turn around at all? You just left?
I put my head down and power walked.
Yeah, because, like, that's, come on.
But if he didn't scream, I'd fuck the shit out you, you'd have ran.
I would have ran. I would have ran.
I don't have to imagine it's where you're at, too.
And when you're at.
Where you're at.
Parks is catcalling and just DMing the same thing.
Like, you just.
DMing.
Like, direct messages, Snapchat.
That's new school.
Like, when I say I get a dick pic, that's what it comes through, the direct message.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
So, most of my dams and wows, because I do get wows.
Sure.
They're on the pictures in the story.
Like, they just, they DM you all day.
They'll say, you know what I mean?
But the people that DM me and say, I'll fuck the shit out you, I do not respond.
I don't like to comment nothing.
The damn and the wow, I might, like, conversate a little bit.
What lines would get it done for you in the DMs that make you open it?
Because I know you talked about this before, but what can somebody say to make you say, oh, shit, thank you?
If you make me laugh, if you crack a joke.
Okay.
I don't like that.
That's automatic.
Cash, yeah.
Crack.
That's a bag.
You said how much?
Can I pay for your nails and all that?
Yeah.
Let's go, Mona.
And if you really pay attention, like, one time this guy knew the nickname for my coochie,
and I only said it on my podcast, so that means he had to watch my show.
Because he was like, how you doing?
You and Tabitha.
I was like, oh, my God, how you know about Tabitha?
Tabitha.
Tabitha.
That's her name.
I was about to say, we didn't escape past that.
No, this is not Bewitched, my nigga.
Tabitha and her nickname.
This is a workplace.
I want to just remind everybody.
We're just going to move past it, but your name is Tabitha.
Tabitha.
Y'all don't have names?
Did you name her Tabitha to somebody else?
Yes, me.
Oh, nigga got named to Tabitha.
You can name my kitty kitty.
Yeah, nigga might have cast some spells on her, nigga.
No, people have names for their parts sometimes.
Men do that, too.
None of y'all in here never named your dicks.
I never named my dick, no.
Okay.
Maybe I'm a weirdo.
I accept it.
As long as you're self-aware.
Yeah.
And anytime I said to somebody or thought that I was going to fuck her,
fuck the shit out of somebody, I didn't.
That's the other thing.
Hey, yo, you.
That's the shortest day ever, nigga.
When you hype yourself, I'm going to kill it.
Why do y'all do that?
Yeah, because you be hype.
I don't even say that shit.
I don't ever say that shit.
It's like you.
Lower.
I try to lower expectations, man.
It's like you put a spell on yourself.
You go in there and try to kill it.
Wah, wah.
Bitch, really like, come in.
Word.
Like, yo, nah.
Not to mention most women hate that.
Like, why are you talking about it?
Not me.
Not me.
I'm going to say, watch yourself.
Nah.
They have DMs back when you was, you know what I mean?
NYU chill.
I'm on you.
They DM me, too.
We'll talk later.
He said.
We'll talk later, professor.
Every most times, the guy that hypes it up is always ass.
Like, never.
The guy that busts your ass don't even mention it.
The guy that acts like he don't want sex that fucks you on your first time somewhere because
he didn't talk about it.
You didn't see it coming.
Makes no use of the full notes of the woman.
Pun intended, nigga.
Knocked your fucking head off.
Yeah, but that's a better route than constantly texting about it, asking about it.
Saying what you're going to do to a coochie when you get it.
Like, that's stupid.
Men should be hip to that kind of shit by now.
Like, that's dumb.
Act like you don't want it.
You get it.
You know?
Sure.
Hard to get.
Under promise.
Overperform.
Got a list of things that are kind of gay.
We got umbrellas, lollipops, being cozy, laughing too hard, getting a ticket, ice cream, eating
slowly, plugging your nose, jumping in a pool, fingernail trimmers, sunscreen, skin care,
eating candy, trampolines, baths, wearing gloves when it's cold.
Being cold.
Complaining.
Aprons.
Holding in a sneeze but letting a squeak out.
Protesting.
Having a spotless house.
Saying, oh my gosh.
Fiend socks.
Mocktails.
Reading.
Dreaming.
Feeling things.
Water shoes.
Not liking sports.
Being under 150 pounds.
Saying yum.
Looking for parking.
Getting cut off.
Dropping something.
Picking it up.
Scooters.
Asking for help in a store.
Parentheses, just leave.
Tea.
Chewing gum.
Grocery shopping.
Dessert.
Blowing your nose.
Tying your shoe.
Driving with two hands on the steering wheel.
Eating stuff with cream filling.
Pushing a pole door and vice versa.
Waving.
Chocolate-covered fruits.
Hydroplaning.
Naps.
Being deceived or tricked.
Getting surprised.
Holding balloons.
Blowing out candles.
Food allergies.
Trying to get a server's attention and not being heard.
Using chapstick.
Whispering.
Covering a yawn.
Losing your balance.
Getting your hat blown off by the wind.
Being scared.
Attempting a parallel park and not one-repping it.
Holding your phone with your face and or shoulder.
Receiving medical attention and saying "Bless you."
That's fucking hilarious.
Nah, I used that out with some of them.
I think I covered half of those.
I'm honest, I'm like a solid 80%, I'm like a 75-year-old.
Blowing your hat is crazy.
Holding your sneeze and letting it squeak out.
Letting it squeak out is crazy.
Holding your shit, no.
That has to be accurate.
Wait.
The real you that squeaks.
Losing your hat to the wind.
This is my body.
I was at the bar the other night, cold as shit.
I felt like such a fucking bitch.
My wife was warm, I was sick.
You better hold that shit in, Parks.
Yeah, I'm sitting here like this.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
Pockets broke this town, I'm out the back of the cell.
People look at you like you's the user.
Selling drugs to all the losers.
Mad go to the abuser.
But they don't know about your stress-filled day.
Baby on the way, mad bills to pay.
That's why you drink Tangeray, so you can reminisce and wish.
You want to live it so devilish.
Shit.
That is definitely the demo version of that song.
That makes me look like the old bastard or something.
God damn.
OK, I'm reloading.
You motherfuckers think you big time?
Fucking with Jay-Z, you're going to die big time.
You're going to pay.
Chick up, chick up, pick up, pick up, pick up, pick up.
Oh, yeah.
Rest in peace Clark Kent.
Oh, my god.
Word.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Still waiting on those sweet prices.
Fuck this and drive to nothing.
Back with you.
Get you.
Back split you.
Fuck this, fight to leave scuffles.
Mic check, one, two, one, two.
Big Jersey, New York.
What up, what up, what up?
Daughter in a calf muscle.
Fuck a tussle.
Nickel plated.
Sprinkle coke on the floor, make it drug related.
Most haters being faded.
We got a coke billy, you run up and stun it.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Scared so you sent your little mans to come kill me.
Uh-huh.
But on the contrary, I paxed the Mac Mini.
Squeezed off on them.
Left the paramedic free to surf on them.
What's your name?
Who shot you?
Mocked eyes like Sinatra.
Peruvians tried to do me in.
I ain't paid them yet.
Trying to push 700s.
They ain't made them yet.
Rolex and bracelets.
We frostbite.
Rinsed two niggas round the way.
Call me igloo sticks.
Crazy and baseball.
Biggest shit you draw.
Where you from?
Cochlear going out for all.
Bossy.
Bossy.
We don't stop.
Best out.
Uh-huh.
We don't stop.
They gone.
They gone.
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
What?
I wanted the people in Bensonhurst for Mac.
They ain't get a shout out.
Fuck that.
This is it, bae.
Hey, baby.
Baby.
Yes, sir.
Use your mouth.
You used to have bad luck.
Now you might see me in a Jag truck.
Bad stuff.
Even with a dime or a bagged up.
Double RT with the matching bandana.
Why, yo?
What up?
I be a snub.
Blue stare with no hammer.
Yes, sir.
Y'all niggas trying to glance.
Hit the kiss.
Because I walk around with your ass to my wrist.
When drunk off Coronas and lemon, and you're
Know I'm still right in the mean Lighten the green, I need a buggy
Even though I look right in the bean Judge, find out it's my team, he boosts their sales
Niggas throw us on the album, try to boost their sales
We put our pies on the table when our eyes on the label
Cause the rednecks up in the mountains and try to slay
Call me raspy, tell you what I want you to know
Fuck what you ask me, you probably don't want me to blow
I got a lot of horsepower, so I'm able to skip
Usually a good nigga, even though I'm able to flip
You pay 30 for the kiss, 100 for the lock
And if we cool, then I write a hook for a drop
Whatever's in the bank is what you pay
You owe my pay, I'm back in the lane
I come bossing niggas to the fish like Swanson
New York's youngest, Ogie Johnson
I put fee in y'all heads, chic moves
Type of nigga, gasoline, y'all bets
Damn, I can't play this whole thing, but the verses I want to hear is at the end
I'm waiting for it
Yeah, I'ma see if I can roll up, man
I tell all that, all y'all niggas eager to die
I tell all my niggas ride
I'm a monster, see whole winners wake up and spit summer
Kill a nigga, put that bitch in numbers
Surrounded by sixes and hummers, bitch
Blackout vs. Soap All
I mean, Soap All
Soap All, right?
Nah, Black, meanest, toughest, dun-duttered, the gun butcher?
Come on
It doesn't get better than that
Soap All, the student
Feels wrong to pick Soap All, though
It does, but I think even Jay-Z would say this one
Among us, try not to let this bullshit become us
Started from hunger, turned it on when it's saying
You got a great show lined up for y'all today
Big Moan in the building
Yeah, she's back
People don't change, you're dead, bitch, the reaper done came
I suggest niggas stop talking to you
I'm not speaking my name
Cause trust me, y'all can still feel the heat in the rain
I keep creeping
Rest in peace, Aggie Poppin'
It's just hot hands and the bullets to keep seeking
Jay-Z flows and pesos, chase hoes
Nah, I just circle round the block in the drive
Tell them jump to the top
Where the sunroof used to be
I can see y'all not used to me
I'm the meanest, toughest, dun-duttered, the gun butcher
You've been typing, but it's a lot of shots and none touch you
I'm the type to get excited
Excited when the gun touches
It's been five years since we lost the MX
X, we miss you, man
Clark, Irv, we miss you, man
A lot of people I miss
Can't wait for this Mark eulogy today, boy
I got you one cut out for you, buddy
Get the other take of music theme ready
Oh my God, let me get these drops out the way
What's that?
It's Mark!
You icing
What was that?
Is Mark in my head, pussing, pussing, pussing, pussing?
Flip and Mona and Beast
B-Dot
B-Dot, what episode is this?
919
Welcome to episode 919 of the Joe Budden Podcast
Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by
PrizePix, PrizePix gang
I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here
Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people
To my right, don't call her white girl
We missed her dearly
Big Demona is in the building
Demona, how you doing?
I'm good, glad to see you, niggas
Good, we happy to see you too
Next to her, another Philly motherfucker
Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building
Mark, how you doing, man?
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good
Can I give a, well, I'm going to give a happy birthday to Malcolm
My four-year-old, he hit the big 0-4 today
Happy birthday, baby
Nice
Happy birthday, Malcolm
Let's go, that's great news
Is he named after Malcolm?
Brother Malcolm
That's right
Aries
Aries?
Aries or Pisces?
I don't be knowing that stuff
I think Aries
Aries?
Aries, yeah
That nigga know everything but the horoscope
That's the line, wish him Zodiac sign, girl
Basic reading
I just do April 10th
Oh, shout out to Q-Tip too, it's his birthday too
Happy birthday, Tip
Happy birthday, Q-Tip
Oh, I talked to him yesterday
Legend
Feels funny when you don't put the Q in front of it
Yeah, Tip is wild
Yeah, Tip is, happy birthday, Tip is crazy
Giving out some happy birthday tip, LLF
Next to him, our good brother, man
Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, Big Ish is in the building
Ish, how you doing?
I'm great, you so?
Good, couldn't be better, absolutely love that for you
Next to him, come on, Queens is fine, it's Big B-Dot
What's poppin'?
Tom Brown endorsements galore
That's my tax refund money
And you put the chains out today
Huh?
Stop playing with them
Dipped in the stash, splurged on the chain
Yeah, come on
Take that, Elliot
All right, take it off
All right, Big B-Dot is here
Next to him, Queens, get the money
Queens split in the building
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Next to him, our Myra's finest, Big Parks in the building
Hotter than mud
White Poe is here
Corey is here
Phelps is here
Erickson is here
Tanner and Savana are here by remote
Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you
Very important people out there are here
Everybody's good
Indeed
Everybody's good, we feeling good
Y'all smell great, y'all look great
Come on, let's get right to it, man
Yeah
Let's get right to it
Pack him up
Pack him up
Come on, queue it up
I'm queuing it up
It's not in my Serato
I won't burden your Serato with this
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not
Wow
I wouldn't dare waste my fucking Apple computer memory
Yeah
On this bullshit
Y'all not feeling the new Gucci Mane, huh?
You wasn't either, nigga
Yo, tell me if one of y'all are about to defend this
Cause I'll take a Tylenol
Tell me what?
The new Gucci Mane
There she goes
Screw up
Yeah
We're down
Nigga, I hate to see you up
Tell the truth
You went out like a real crash diamond
And not the other way around
All that
But you still signed to me
I'm like Birdman and nigga
This my cash mining
And your fat ass flanking
He a stone cold junkie
You know I got my bread up
I always keep my head up
I thought it was a business meeting
But it was a setup
I walk in the room
You can feel the pressure building
Niggas doubt me up
The whole time they flying against me
I don't take it personal
For me it's only business
And I don't wanna conversate
If it ain't about no million
They don't keep
No one seems to be bothered
With their head
So I'ma go ahead
Thank you
Fire
Thank you for pausing that
Yeah
Cause what the fuck
Wait hold on
So you don't like the record?
I don't like anything about any of this
Me either
I don't like anything about any of this
So I'm confused
Because do you
Are you promoting
Nah I'm not with that nigga
But
You promoting violence in hip hop again?
Huh?
That's what I'm saying
He's rapping because somebody did something to him
That's what he's rapping about
Okay
And he's taking
Instead of taking the street route
Like he killed somebody else
That tried to kill him
Yeah
I would rather he shot somebody
Give me a second
Give me a second
You niggas is all hypocrites
You niggas is conveniently
Everyone's a hypocrite
Support a street shit
No
Like now all of a sudden
Nigga you support a street shit too
No I'm just saying
That's a bad song
I think it's a response
You talking about the song
Or the situation
He said I don't like
Wait I'm talking to him
He said I don't like anything about this
That's what I'm referring to
So I'm asking my man
Are you back on that side?
Pack him up
I don't agree with that nigga
Pack
He
It's over now
It's over buddy
It's over
Pack him up
Outside of this song
Being absolutely horrible
True
It sound like
The stenographer wrote it
Yeah
They tell him
That's what it sounds like
I'm a businessman
He said I'm a businessman
90 times on this motherfucker
Nigga who you telling
I said
Who you telling
Court?
My problem
Who is he talking to?
On here
I'm a civilian
I just want millions
I don't want no trouble
But
Shut the fuck up
With this shit
Get him out of here
Cause this wasn't the tone
At the Jeezy Versus
That's a fact
I'm with you
That's a fact
So
I like
I like
My street niggas
To be consistent
Joe I'm telling you
This could be the
This could be
He could be playing possum
So he
He got on the record now
That he's a businessman
He ain't got no trouble
He ain't got no street shit
And if somebody turn up missing
It ain't got nothing to do with him
He might be set in the trap
This is horrible
The song sucks
I think it's irresponsible
I mean this is over
It's an open case
My question to y'all is
If it was hard
Would it be a difference?
If it was hard
I wouldn't have no problem with it
Honestly
I might still have some issues with it
Alright that's what I mean
My issue is being that
He's playing the CEO role
And I think he's right to do that
And I think
You know I don't give a fuck
About all this snitching shit
But
If you're gonna do that
Do that
At least do it well
I'm just saying
Don't go back to rapping
Like
You know
I'm a businessman
I had to do this
Cause this is what a businessman would do
Then do that
I agree with part of it
Okay
If it were all
If it were a harder joint
My tone would be different
My tone would be different
I love a good hard diss track
This type of track
With this whatever
he's doing two to three days
after it's released,
the shit that he's bragging about,
I don't feel like he's excited.
Oh, all of that,
you still signed to me.
Nigga, it was a rifle
to your fucking head.
Like, what are we talking about
with this?
But to Flip's point,
he's a rapper,
so he's doing what rappers do,
is documenting the experience.
But at the same time,
like I said, it's an open case.
It's kind of irresponsible
for them to talk about that
so soon.
Disgusting.
I like a little irresponsibility
in rap, so I'm not going to hold.
It's an open case,
but he's not charged.
He's the victim.
What's the risk?
That's what I mean.
The only way it would matter
if it was an open case
is if he really wanted him
persecuted and put in prison.
And he's going to kick like
he didn't care,
he's not cooperating.
That's what his line's going to be
in the street.
He's never going to claim
that he's cooperating
with the police
if he even cooperates
with the police.
My thing is,
every Gucci wife
went on a breakfast club
and said that he was on psych meds.
She said that she would have to
sometimes get people together
to grab his ass
when he was manic or whatever
and take him to,
somewhere where he can
calm down,
get some medicine
and come home
and try a new medicine.
That's the Gucci
that we're dealing with.
Somebody that's on
fucking psych meds.
That's the type of distract
you get from a nigga
that's medicated.
And when you say
street nigga,
to me,
Gucci ain't been
a street nigga in years.
Like, that's over.
But that energy
that the verses did give,
like, I'm still mad
out poppy today,
but in reality,
like, he's not a street guy.
That verse wasn't
that long ago.
It wasn't.
It was like five years.
If anything,
that was strange.
But that's a specific energy.
I mean, I get that.
I mean, I just hate
that in hip-hop.
One dude busts into a room,
puts somebody,
put a gun to somebody's head,
robbed them,
and tried to get them
to sign a contract
under duress,
and we're saying,
the dude,
the victim is irresponsible.
Like, I get what you're saying.
You're not wrong.
It just speaks
to the culture we're in,
and I'm frustrated by that.
Like, all our energy
should be for the niggas
that put the guns
in people's heads.
And even myself,
I'm finding myself
mad at this song.
I'm mad at how
he's dealing with it.
Yeah, but you bring up
the word energy,
and I believe
that energy is real,
and you manifest shit,
and you attract
the laws of attraction.
I came in here,
and I said,
this is when Gucci
got mad at me
when I said,
yo, dog,
maybe it's time
to start looking
for, like, musicians
and not signing
every street nigga
in the universe
because eventually
you play with pigs,
you get dirty.
Like, what the fuck
do you think
was gonna happen?
Then when Homeboy died
and the second
he died,
the second he died,
your scar,
rest in peace,
the second he died,
you want your
10-17 chain back.
Like, he been
a little off.
Yeah.
He's been off.
So now,
when you put
the oatmeal
in the microwave
and it come out
oatmeal,
now you wanna get
on a song
with all of this shit?
Nigga, shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
We wasn't looking
for music from you before.
Don't come drop
something at midnight
talking about crash dirt.
Nigga, y'all all crash dirt.
All of y'all.
Fuck it.
You gotta keep
creating separatism.
Crash dummy separatism.
I'm trying.
Well, well, well, well.
Here's the thing.
I'm with you on that.
I didn't wanna listen
to the song
because, you know,
what I thought
he stood for.
In all reality,
though, when I look at it,
in his mind,
he's gonna say
he don't want
the other side to win.
He don't want
your Gotti to win.
I don't want,
you ain't gonna,
I look at it
from a bigger scope.
All right, yo,
you did that to me
to get out the contract
with me to go sign
with them.
Because me and him,
him going at it,
he's not gonna win
neither,
and you're not gonna win.
So,
what do you expect
to happen?
Are we taking it
to the streets?
I do feel like
he should shut the fuck
up on the record
and just have us think
what he's gonna do next,
but I do understand
the fact of,
like,
nigga,
like,
none of you niggas
gonna win.
We don't necessarily
condone,
let me speak for myself.
I don't condone
taking it to the streets,
but you don't have
to do this either.
You can do neither.
He should have
shut the fuck up.
You can do neither.
You don't have to do.
You can make a good song
for that.
What if two tough niggas
is beefing?
What if two,
what if you know
a nigga over there,
you,
I know playing with you
like this,
I know what's gonna happen.
What if,
where are you at now?
I know a lot of,
well,
in the streets
where we from,
when two tough niggas
is beefing,
a lot of times
it's either casualty or war
or they come together
and they squash it.
In this situation,
he don't feel like
he's gonna squash it.
It's way past squash.
Yeah,
that's what I'm saying.
So what do you do?
Let him put out bad music.
To me,
it's like,
I see this,
then they go to the street.
Of course.
If this is his outlet,
because the other thing is like,
you've been publicly embarrassed.
You could play
all that tough shit.
Like,
the world saw you
with a gun to your head.
He's not doing nothing
to them niggas.
I'm just saying,
he might want to,
he might want to get,
I can see him wanting
to get him to express himself.
Those niggas,
Poo Shiesty,
them,
they real gangsters
where they from.
They are active.
Absolutely a real gangster.
That nigga went with his father.
Poo Shiesty,
mom just went viral
for her ignorance.
Not because she look like that,
but she's saying
dead serious,
no bullshit.
It's so ignorant
and ridiculous,
it went viral.
And she basically
just wants some,
you know how we get down.
And this is a 50-year-old woman.
So it's like,
I don't know.
I want to add
to what Joe was saying
about Gucci.
I feel like Gucci
has never necessarily
been like a nice guy.
Like,
taking the chains back
from Big Scar,
doing certain things
back in the day,
you know,
nailing everybody,
blaming on drugs,
but he never really
was a nice guy.
So the verse is kind of
more speaks to his character
than anything.
As far as I'm being
a street nigga,
Gucci ain't no street nigga.
They are rich
and he is medicated.
And that's what's going on.
And I would be surprised
if he really cooperates.
He don't have to.
It's enough witnesses
and camera footage
to make it a case without him.
He don't have to.
But he that petty,
he might.
It would be a fuck you.
It wouldn't be a fear thing
to end you.
Do you think that
would damage his reputation?
He's already fucked.
There's nothing he can do
and he's fucked.
That's what they're saying.
You might as well
just stop rapping.
On top of the fact that,
because on his song
he's bragging about 1017,
Poushaisi's been in jail
the majority of the deal.
Big Scar is dead.
Enchanted is dead.
There's nobody successful
off the whole joint.
Because that was it.
Waka left.
That's a good point.
Waka left.
And that's it.
Long time we're in.
I ain't even Waka so far.
But I'm seeing a new group.
The new group.
Got it, got it, got it.
I understand what you're saying.
Those four,
I mean,
two dead
and one that never
really was on the deal.
You can't even brag on a label.
And then when he
refers to himself
like he's Birdman
and Cash Money
so you know you robbing
them niggas.
And I also think
that's disgusting.
Rappers that have been out
and know how to game
and then they get
that chance to give you
a deal and they fuck them.
I don't get that.
I don't give a fuck
what industry you in.
If you were a rapper
and you know what
that feels like,
why are you fucking people?
Like that doesn't
make any sense.
Why not be fair
with your shit?
Like why?
I don't know their business
but I definitely
second that motion.
In the mic.
Me?
Yeah.
Oh, I definitely second that.
I always say like,
yo dawg,
to all these niggas
that be dissing the industry
or dissing the labels,
in my opinion,
if I always say like,
yo dawg,
if you got bullied before,
right,
because you ain't
know how to fight,
cool,
you go start taking
martial arts classes,
you get your shit up.
If you become a bully,
you worse than the niggas
that bullied you.
A karate bully.
Like niggas that didn't know,
niggas that didn't know
the game
and you learn the game
and you start using
that shit to weaponize,
I think that shit is terrible.
It's horrible.
So I don't know
the specifics to their case
but I definitely second that.
The second,
that nigga Chang
after he dies is crazy.
Like,
that boy OD'd
and he goes back
to get the jury.
That's not crazy?
Yes,
it is crazy.
Like what?
And then it wasn't even
like a hide or secret thing.
Them family exposed,
he was like,
hell yeah,
I went back
to get my motherfucker Chang.
I gave it to him.
Damn.
Yeah,
it's hard to have sympathy for him.
I just wish somebody
heard the song
or he played a song
for somebody
before he sent it out.
Yeah.
You can tell
you don't have community
and people who love you
if you put out a song like this.
Yeah,
the bottom line,
the song is not very good.
Sometimes you do hope.
I never even heard
this nigga's rap voice
be like this.
Yeah, yeah.
He sound worried.
He sound like
he's concerned about things.
I've never heard of him.
He was like,
I'm in the booth.
Yes.
Shut the,
this nigga's nuts.
It's a testimony.
I'm sure people
were hitting him up
all week
asking his thoughts
about the case
and whatnot.
This was probably,
like you said,
his outlet
to get his side
of the story out.
This nigga has never used
or rapped
the word tactical.
Ever.
And we cut it off
before,
cut it back off.
Come on,
cut it back off.
Let's get tactical.
Let's get back
to this motherfucker.
He'll make you stronger.
Don't bite the hand
that feeds you.
My money keep getting longer.
Now these haters
got them knees.
Yo,
I got a move tactical.
Every move magical
and I'm from East Texas.
That nigga said tactical.
Take a drink
every time he says tactical.
Yeah,
nigga took the LR.
I don't know.
Sometimes you sit there,
I sat there
and I hope that he took it.
I hope that he stood tall.
I ain't gonna lie.
It's,
I was there.
I hope that Gucci man
holds it down.
You know what?
I'm tired of that talk though,
man.
But why?
You can't hold it down.
Don't testify.
Yeah,
I hope he didn't testify.
I hope that he just handle it
like how niggas handle it.
That's what you hoped?
I did.
And see,
I'm not killing.
I didn't want any killing.
Who knows how,
however it handled.
There's a couple ways
to handle that situation.
I didn't want him
to go on a stand.
I didn't want him to tell.
Sometimes,
like Joe said,
I do agree with him
on that point.
Like you want to,
whatever street nigga
you want them to fucking
live it to the end of the day.
Till they die.
Yeah.
That's why I fuck a 50.
Does being a street nigga
have an expiration date?
Live it to the end of your days,
nigga.
I don't care.
You can grow.
I guess you can grow
whatever internally,
but nigga,
if you're going to do it publicly,
if you're going to act
this way publicly,
and if you're not going
to show us the process
of your growth,
nigga,
live it to the end
of your days, nigga.
My thing is,
if you're in the game,
my thing is,
if you're in the game,
operate within the rules
of that game.
But if you're not,
I'm not mad at him.
I mean,
the nigga,
somebody tried to kill him.
And he killed him.
Right.
So you can talk about it.
Then now somebody
tried to rob you,
put a gun to your neck,
bust in your office.
If he want to make a song
about it,
here's the thing,
he ain't even tried
since everybody already know.
After he killed that guy,
do you know what he did?
You know what he was saying
after he killed that guy?
Look, if you send somebody to kill me, I'll say whatever the fuck I want.
And it was legal.
And it was legal, too.
But do you know what he was saying, what he was representing?
Yo, y'all put money on my head.
You know, nigga, he motherfucking came out the, nigga, he didn't die.
Let me ask you a question.
He survived a hit, and he seemed like he didn't tell in that situation.
After that?
He seemed like, yo, I survived a hit, nigga, came and killed me, I killed him, and yo,
I'm rapping about it, y'all niggas can suck my dick, I'm saying whatever, he did a thousand
records, so now we like, oh, he's crazy.
Then he signed a bunch of street niggas that sort of lived that life.
Like, okay, this is his fucking character, and this is what he wants to do.
I'm with you, but that could still be-
So then now, this right here is a, I'm not fucking with that.
I get what you're saying.
I'm saying that-
Fucking with that?
It is a way that you reap what you sow, and Joe said the same thing, when you create all
this.
I'm just saying, I'm rooting for him to get out of all of that, and if the sign that he's
at all that is that he's making a song instead of doing more street shit, I don't care how
offbeat it is.
Yeah, you gotta look at it from-
Let me see.
Gucci man like a street nigga.
That's how y'all say Gucci man.
Is there a statue on being a street nigga?
Yeah, I mean, that's what I was going to say.
I think you can clock out of that.
Nigga, Mase, you gotta make it clear, though.
If that's the case, then I'm a street nigga still.
Like, there's no way that you can't-
But you showing your growth.
You showing your growth.
It's not no growth.
So is he with that rap song.
You either a civilian or you're not.
You could be street adjacent where you'll follow certain rules.
You might not call police.
You might not cooperate, but at the end of the day, to own the streets, something you
have to be in them.
To be in them is making money or putting money.
To be in the street.
That's the first thing.
You gotta be doing street shit.
So making money or putting money in the street.
So in my opinion, if you sell drugs, right, if you get some type of street money, anything,
if you're living off of money that if somebody tells that you will go to jail and you can't
make that money, you are a street person.
Because then you can't utilize what the civilians use.
Civilians work regular jobs, pay taxes, use police.
If I'm a street person and I'm making my own money, I don't pay no taxes on it, if I have
a problem, I gotta handle it by myself.
That's how it goes.
But when he's surrounding himself, you just named it.
He's surrounding himself around-
Because you mentioned him.
I'm like, signing street, guys.
That has nothing to do with you in the street.
What I'm saying, after what he survived from and then signing street niggas, he still was
on that path of, yo, this is what I am.
I'm here to give the niggas outside in the streets a chance to make millions like how
I made millions.
Still don't make him a street nigger.
Well, he's a J-Squad.
You keep mentioning the murder.
Gucci man's murder was a rifle just killed.
The same thing.
Some white nigga-
We're talking about self-defense.
Self-defense.
One murder, yeah.
Some white nigga in Ohio, the same thing.
Somebody's breaking into your house, attempting to kill you, and you kill them.
It's legal, beagle, steagle.
That's it.
I'm aware of that.
So that's not no gangster shit.
We talking about after.
How he carried it after.
Because he talking shit.
I'm talking about after.
These niggas that run around saying, yo, no matter what, I will never talk to the cops
about anything, nothing.
Whatever you do, whatever I do, whatever we do, don't get no cops involved.
He did it live.
Yeah, it's a live.
That comes off to me like-
Like, you trying to be a street nigga.
I pay taxes.
Sometimes I want to use my taxpayer money to get one of these police or firemen over
here to do some shit about some shit.
Come get him.
You get a fireman?
Come get the cat out of the tree.
I'm locked out of the house.
Fix the pothole.
Yeah.
Come on, dummy.
I'm just saying, when these niggas be on some, yo, I'm not talking to the cops about anything
in life.
That tells civilian Joe, oh, that you, oh, you playing a certain one.
Let me ask you a question, right?
So, I'm kind of quiet.
Because I stand, I'm teetering.
If, if, he shot that dude, what, 10 years ago?
Over 10 years ago.
Over 10.
Way over 10.
Dog, he might be a whole different man than he was 10 years ago.
Right?
So, that's one thing.
I don't know these niggas.
So, they make a shirt that says, yo, I'm a whole different man than I was 10 years ago.
Because I'm with Mark.
These niggas clock out whenever the fuck they want to clock out.
I'm talking about the fact that he got sober.
So, I feel like him getting sober.
He has carried himself.
He was a Serb drinking, chit-talking.
He working out.
Bro, he's carried himself.
And he's publicly said that I'm a different man than I was back then.
He's a different person.
He's handling himself in a business forum way different than they used to carry themselves.
And I'm not the biggest Gucci fan or know about them.
What I'm saying is that as a black man, to Mark's point, that we got to come to a point
sometimes where we not really condoning some of this tomfoolery.
What's tomfoolery?
Wait, you know I ain't condoning.
I'm not condoning from Pooh Shiesty.
I don't think there are winners in this situation.
It's not.
And so, again, I'm not ratting on nobody.
I'm not telling on nobody.
I'm standing on that.
I might.
What'd he do?
But I'm not trying to involve myself.
So, you're not telling on nobody.
Yeah, depending on what he did.
You have plenty of time to tell on niggas.
You ain't telling on niggas.
Stop it.
No, no.
Stakes are high now.
You look in your account and then see certain numbers missing and you know who did it or
who cracked your shit.
You're going to jail, buddy.
Yeah, you're going to jail.
So, my point to that is.
You're going to jail now.
I don't try to put myself in no shit where I got to be in nobody's room.
I don't even want to know.
So, when I go in a room, if they pull me in a room, I could be like, no, I don't know.
Put my fingers on what.
I don't know.
But if you do know and you are playing the game to most point, like, yo, dog, you can't
get in there and rat.
I don't know if he's no street nigga.
We characterizing him as a street nigga.
He might have been left street shit alone a long, long time ago.
It seems like he took a blood oath.
And I see a lot of niggas that are street niggas.
Let's be the fuck clear.
I see a lot of niggas.
That's bonafide street niggas that have put in work in the streets, that have made mad
money in the streets.
When they get to a couple hundred million dollars, that shit goes out the window, bro.
Yeah.
You're not.
Yeah.
Name some.
No, no.
I can name a bunch.
You can name way more than it go out the window.
You're not catching them doing that.
You're wrong.
So, name them.
No.
I'll tell you off camera, though.
Yeah, like, what are y'all talking about?
Listen, and then when it comes, because you said, like, is it a time thing with the streets?
I think that in certain situations, like, gangsters, bloods, crips, and all that, it's
different rules.
It's different rules to whether you can get in.
I don't even know if you're allowed to leave, but just regular street shit, I just think
it's a certain amount of time, and it's the actions that you take.
So, if you make certain moves, and you're not making any money in the street, which
most of the time means you got a square job, you have a business, you know what I mean?
You're podcasting.
Everybody know the difference, because, shut up.
Everybody know the difference, because you're always in your laundry, man.
You're always in your soul food spot.
It's a difference than when you was outside.
Okay.
Right?
And this is a real, real, real question to everybody.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All your questions.
All your questions are real.
No, it's the people outside.
Let's say you were in the streets, right?
Yeah.
But you're no longer in the streets.
Yes, sir.
Niggas came in your office, they set up a meeting, they put the bangers to your head.
You don't want to kill them, but you do want some-
Justice.
Recourse.
You're not going to go outside, strap up and kill them.
You're not going to pay nobody to go kill them, but you do want recourse.
What do you do in that instance?
I can't answer that.
I know I can't answer that.
Because the only answer is the answer.
Right.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, I'm not with that.
I'm not saying-
I'm not taking the route that y'all think I'm taking.
No, I'm not answering that.
All right, no.
I mean, we'll figure it out when we figure it out.
Let me throw Gucci some bail on that same point.
We'll figure it out when we figure it out.
It wasn't like Gucci had to call 911 to get help.
Why?
That's another thing that's been knocking on it.
These niggas already-
It's on camera.
But that's why he was supposed to-
And do it at an angle.
I mean, like, he didn't have to do shit.
But that's why he was supposed to shut up and not put the song out.
Right.
Because now, you are sitting in the song saying, yo, I was under duress.
Yeah.
To some niggas, you are ratting.
Yeah.
You are saying, yo, I was under duress.
If Gucci Mane would have just shut up, not put nothing out, and said, yo, the court is
going to handle it.
I ain't say shit to nobody.
I feel you on that.
And shut the fuck up.
Then he had mad niggas in the room.
Like, it was executives in that room.
Some of them niggas don't play by those street rules.
And there might have been some undercover cops.
911?
Yeah, this is check.
So when you say you're a street nigga, is it a behavior or is it actual activity?
It's a life that you live.
In my opinion, it's money-based.
Like, I mean, of course it's violence.
You can't say you're not a street nigga, but still, if somebody bothers you, you shoot
them.
That's the first thing you do.
But to me, it's money-based.
Once you get to the point where you can make money legally, then you can say you're not
in the fucking street.
I don't even know why I'm going back and forth, because that's what the fuck it is.
I think they might be distinct.
We're talking about embodying the principles and morals of the street lifestyle.
We're not talking about being in the street.
We're talking about, yo, this is how I was.
Hold on, hold on.
So we're street adjacent.
This is how, yeah, I guess.
This is how I was raised.
This is what was taught to me, and this is what I live by.
You're reformed.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah.
A person that's reformed, but they still operate with that sort of ethos.
You know, how many niggas we know that came home from jail, right, that did a lot of years
that were street niggas that come home and they preach positivity, but they still have
the principles and morals that they had when they were in the streets.
They're not doing none of that shit.
They're not talking to no police.
They're not doing anything like that.
But you still call them a street guy.
And we may be wrong for that, but yeah, I still call them a street guy.
Can I ask a question to that, to what you just said?
Yeah.
So when you say they still have the same principles and morals, and of course that means they
don't speak to the police, but beyond that, do that mean if they have an issue with a
nigga, they kill him?
Exactly.
They pop him?
Like, what are we talking about?
She going right where I was going to go.
What are we talking about?
That same nigga that you just talked about that's reformed, that preaches positivity.
We need a fifth nigga.
We're not answering y'all questions.
I can answer you.
No, wait, wait, wait.
I'm going to answer you.
They never put themselves in a position to be in a situation like that.
You're still not answering the question.
You ducked the question.
Somebody snatch a chain.
The question is, the same nigga that just came home from doing 30, that stands on this.
Yes.
Cool.
Let somebody do something to them or their family.
What happens?
Okay.
I'm going to put some money on his head and get him done.
Okay.
Because that's what I was born into.
And we just seen a nigga that just came over, four niggas that came over, doing 25 years
and just killed somebody and went back.
So it happens.
And we call them idiots.
That's a problem.
It is.
So it's what side of the fucking pole you on.
And that's why I said I'm teetering the line.
Why are we teetering?
This is the shit.
It's crazy to me.
Only in this culture, not only in this culture.
I don't pathologize black people.
I'm saying only in unhealthy cultures is that a thing that we should be.
Because I get the teeter.
I'm not criticizing ish.
I'm saying when fucked up shit happens, my instinct is not to call the police too.
And I don't call the police.
Yeah, you go to the trunk.
I'm with you.
you that's what you do that's some unhealthy shit so teach yourself i'm saying it's fucked up
i'm saying we're all fucked up this is some unhealthy shit that we're literally saying
well if somebody busts my house smack my kids steal my tv set my house on fire i don't know
what to do i'm in a quandary i can either i can either get him taken away or i could kill him
and go to jail and look i don't trust the police i don't believe in police i'm an abolitionist
it's not like i'm saying we need new solutions but i'm saying the healthy response is not to go
kill people and like now and all the shit that's happened this last thing i said well all this
shit is happening in the streets all this happened with gucci and push ice and all that shit most of
the smoke i see on the internet is for the dude that made a song about getting getting robbed and
not the dude that did the robbing that's just fucked up to me crazy that's some unhealthy
that's some sick shit what do you think people want to gucci to do like that's the thing that
i'm saying shut up they want to say nothing just say nothing yeah but
before you say nothing just say nothing
before you say nothing
before the song like it's already caught y'all trying to paint gucci like takashi
no exactly that's what it's starting to sound like he did a whole he did a whole live and said
i'm not calling the police i don't think the police no hold on he did a live said i'm not
calling the police nigga i don't believe in police i put money on your head nigga i'm coming to get
it myself it's alive niggas on the internet how long ago why he was in the pool while he was
skinny how long ago last year or this year what do we want gucci to do if he's a civilian act like a
i'm saying it's as if i don't give a fuck about all it as a civilian i'm saying he looks absolutely
nuts but if you are a civilian nigga be a civilian yeah y'all that's the part where i'm y'all losing
me at he's a rapper so if i'm already in this if i'm already if i'm already i don't know why we
acting like gucci man not that i don't know if y'all not gucci fans i'm a fan i'm just saying
that song oh okay the song because i'm starting to like get that like gucci ain't him in here and
that's very that's a good song i'm just calling this song that's just a song that's just a song
okay i was making sure yeah um because yes the song is ass i think the song is ass because i'm
rapping it with him on the first time i hear it that's why i thought it was ass first second y'all
are confusing me because if i'm in a rap game right and i make money of being a rapper yes i'm
going to get his gangster image that's what rappers do a persona right now today if one of
them niggas that give against your image came and court a case that got in trouble we will all be
dogging him for what for risking his life and all this other bullshit bobby schmurda and all that
mind you niggas rap drag niggas like bobby schmurda when i really believe that when you push in like
that you don't think you're gonna make it so yes you talking shit in these songs because you don't
think the song gonna get that big where people gonna put it together in that b i'm gonna be
listening stupid still people forget that part right if why can't he still stay in the same game
stay with the same gangster image and be a civilian that's almost like y'all acting like
the reason being that he's signing it now what joe said about laying with pigs you get hurt
that totally makes sense because
even with scarring and they died the same way you know what i mean so it's like yeah you're not even
looking for people that's on the up and up but again it's his job like don't ask what we doing
right we but i i think the one issue people have is that if you if you want to just rap be a rapper
a performer a persona and keep a street image then you don't make a song like this with it
because it's dry snitching yeah i would agree with you you could just say nothing that which i i just
hearing the song itself i wish she had said nothing gucci's probably under a lot of pressure to say
something right
and he probably some of his internal so sometimes you just want to say something like all this shit
is happening you embarrassed you mad you want you want revenge sometimes all you got and all you got
is that booth because you're not gonna kill nobody and you don't want to call the police what the
fuck i mean it was still a bad choice but i at least understand how his mind got him there i just
wish he made a difference i don't understand how you made the song pack that nigga up i would i
would have never made my only thing is the song sucks okay it is terrible i think whatever he
thought it was going to do is doing the opposite you know what i mean it's not it's not it's not
he turned the comments off but i also think that he was he turned the comments off yeah it's never
it's never good when you got to cut the comments also that's pussy shit leave them on again
i don't do that i don't cut my comments you cut the comments off after all of that
get him the fuck out of here man the truth was a hard i don't want to hear none of this gucci
i don't i'm off it all right remember the truth
yes the nigga that made that this record you know what moan is right it got to be like skinny
luther and fat luther now seriously because the nigga that made that this record he was and the
nigga that made this this record yeah gucci it's not the same person we're not about to do that
original gucci or get fat gucci especially we both agree that when rappers are addicted to drugs
and totally fucked up that's their best shit most of the time yeah like i want you to get better
not really you know what i mean i love
fucked up kodak that's my favorite kodak i thought him having the fucking the the rights to pooh
he would rap less and they didn't want to hear this nigga rap no i don't i don't he's not trying
to make the other side win joe that's all are those numbers floating around real about how
much he made off who's sheisty total i don't know i have no idea i have no idea what was the fake
number 28 million or something i could see it i don't know it was huge i could see it yes
really pulling them was killing it at first i'm telling y'all
and that's the thing that's so frustrating with pooh sheisty because that first day out went crazy
you ain't even chill and let it or even i'm sorry i'm gonna cut you off you see that's why i can't
compare him and bobby smurda right bobby smurda was niggas in the streets that got a deal was
still living in the streets no no no but you was like niggas looked at nobody looked at bobby
smurda made fun of him when he went to jail like you said niggas looking at him stupid nobody did
that pooh sheisty niggas look at him like that because nigga you just came home you just came
home you haven't even been home for about two months
and you fucking go there with your ankle monitor and do that we have to look at him different
like nigga either you just don't give a fuck or you just he went with his dad he was raised fucked
up let me tell you in in closing yeah in closing because we've been at this for a second yeah we
have for me this is how i know that gucci is not the same person i don't care where i am and what
if i'm ordering a pizza and pooh sheisty calls me to say let's meet up for a meeting i'm going to
get 300 people
and 300 guns or you're gonna just go get the hired police security that your new found success
and business acumen not two of them told you to go i'm not going we're having a team meeting not
two of them zoom see that's the other thing yeah word we will be on motherfucking zoom
don't get on the song talking all this big money big money shit and you got two security guards
no off-duty police officers if pooh sheisty hit me to go
i would go round up as many niggas as i could possibly find
yeah these niggas are nuts man it's crazy i love apples rise and fall of them they whole squad done
there's a lesson in this for everybody i hate all of this urban shit because all of the black
labels and all that shit we see go through inner turmoil that'd be fucked up yeah and and all the
white niggas just do is reap the benefits
i wouldn't say all there's some successful ones that really don't happen
yeah maybe not as many as we'd like to see but yeah i just hate that all the fucked up ones
happen not all but a lot of the fucked up ones happen with us there's a lot of successful ones
that don't i just hate like you said how many how disproportionate the bad ones are exactly it's just
again as i get older 10 years ago i know what i'd be saying something different maybe even 10 months
ago but now i just i just can't take it no more i'm just watching this shit and i'm like this is
a death culture and we got to do something about it yeah not all the hip-hop people are like that
but this genre this strand you know what it was when i seen when i was in philly a couple years ago
when when dude was digging up uh my man grave yeah yeah and then he got killed i'm like yo this shit
is sick like this ain't even about music no more this shit is just this shit ain't never gonna
change though you know he's going now yeah and then kill him that's what i'm saying it's like
and then part of you was like well i mean he did do you know and so then you end up in this space
where you're starting to justify people dying you tried in the 80s with self-destruction we tried in
the 90s with farrakhan this shit ain't gonna work it's always going to work it's always going to work
this way unfortunately that's so grim i don't believe that at all i don't believe that's true
yeah i don't think so i think things change i think the young because the young people are
the future they the ones that change and i think that young people they some of them won't be
humans in the music business at some point oh okay if that's your angle cool yeah but i'm i'm
i'm aligned with him if you start saying that in hip-hop we're talking about just hip-hop
dog they are
purposely finding the young boy from the worst of the worst of the worst conditions
and signing them to a fucked up deal some some because i don't want to there's dreamville exists
tde exists ovo exists fucking griselda even though they might have their own little tiffs here and
there exist there's a bunch of people that exist where it's not fucking murder death kill and
actually doing it right and it's successful so i don't want to paint like the entire hip-hop is
some fucking death it's some shit that'd be going on
behind closed doors and a bunch of these labels that niggas don't know about that be related to
murder death kill okay but we're talking about the shit that's publicized all right okay cool cool
cool cool that's what yo the essence of hip-hop is a street thing and so a lot of times the people
from the streets got one foot in one foot out they trying to get a better way but if you cross me i
can go right back to where i just left sure in a blink of an eye and so i think that that's the
thing and you won't get no hip-hop money no the streets and they're risking it joe
We just seen the nigga risk it.
- But the streets and music
and like always been intertwined,
even since like Frank Sinatra, he was connected.
He was, he was.
But there's levels.
I don't, I agree with that.
No, no, no, he was, them niggas was connected.
No, no, I, I, yeah, Frank was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was, he was, he was Johnny Fontaine from The Godfather.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, I get it.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
But I'm just saying, though, there are levels to it.
That's how New York got all that burn.
We don't talk about Frank Sinatra.
He was, he, he was a pure boy.
He was a black man.
But he was a pure boy.
I'm just saying, even with self-destruction,
I mean, I'm old enough to remember when Skylar Rock got killed.
I'm old enough to remember when shit was happening in the streets.
I know y'all, y'all were too.
Skylar Rock got killed.
Holy shit.
Oh my God.
Marvin Gaye too?
You heard Lincoln got shot?
Don't do that.
You heard Lincoln.
That's terrible.
He's going to be crushed when she hears about MLK.
Fuck off.
Fuck all of y'all.
Y'all, that nigga said, Skylar Rocked.
That's funny, y'all.
Holy.
I don't know what that is.
You don't know who Skylar Rock is?
Boogie Down Productions.
He is super.
Yo.
He just got in the rock.
He got.
Anyway, all right.
Don't ever play with me ever.
Nobody watches Sky, nigga.
They always got paid.
They would take the wackest song and make it better.
You don't.
Etta.
Etta.
We take the wackest song and make it better.
Etta.
Etta.
Remember to let us into your skin.
We will begin to master rhyming, rhyming,
rhyming, rhyming.
Rhyming, rhyming, criminal minded.
I got it, I got it, I got it.
I'm like looking for a style like, come on, you can't find it.
That went crazy.
I'm about to do some break dancing.
That was so dope.
That was super old.
Niggas don't know how young Flip is, for real.
Niggas don't know how young he is.
He's our age.
He just still act like it.
No, Flip is the youngest.
Right.
He ain't 25 and shit.
Flip is the youngest one up here.
Thank you, Mona.
I'm sorry, I was making a point.
By a year.
The point I was making was, I'm old enough to remember these deaths in hip hop.
They've always existed.
Street shit has always existed.
But now, it's to another level, and I think we do ourselves a disservice by acting like
it's all the same.
Other genres have violence, they have death, they have crime, they got all that shit.
Hip hop ain't the only one.
But again, I don't want to compare Frank Sinatra, allegedly, potentially having some
tie to the La Cosa Nostra, to what we see with the deep gang involvement and involvement
that's happening in these cultures.
And honestly, even if it was the same, I don't give a fuck what they do.
I care about us.
The only thing that matters is if they stop signing people that were a fucking liability.
If they just stop signing people, meaning you checking their record, if you on probation,
because they make more money.
It's not a liability.
That's the thing.
And then we're going to take-
What did you just say, B-Dot?
We're fucked.
It's never going to change.
We're all going to die.
And then we're going to take insurance out on you.
So even when you die, we get more money.
That's some real shit right there.
The evidence is on B-Dot's side.
The odds on B-Dot and this side, it's more likely not to change than to change, but we,
have to always go against the odds.
We have to always believe.
I keep a faith in the people that we can do something different.
Me too, Mark.
And that's why I'm still hopeful.
Yeah.
Pack Gucci Man up.
That's all sucked.
That's the moral of the story.
Yeah.
That's all.
We got it.
I wish he had, I wish he had LaRussell's engineer.
Oh, shit.
He didn't help very much.
Well, damn.
I know somebody else that's ain't effing sent.
Oh, shit.
Oh, God.
Listen, man.
What time is it, Joe?
Time to pay some bills.
Oh, I thought it was time for eulogy.
To the eulogy.
We'll get to that.
Yeah.
Ooh, I got some words.
Fresh off the, fresh off the-
I can't wait to hear Mark's eulogy.
Me too.
Me too.
It's not what you think it's going to be.
I don't, I don't have a thought on it.
We're talking about Blondie, right?
No, we're talking about African Bambada, nigga.
Blondie.
When Blondie died?
Blondie died, yeah.
Wait, Denver Harry?
What Blondie died?
No, you're talking about y'all, yes, and y'all, y'all, I'm talking about-
Blondie didn't die.
No, from the beginning.
From the rap?
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Hey.
Hey.
Welcome to the club.
Yes.
I'm feeling really good about myself.
I feel like Sam Rothstein and some shit, man.
I made it.
What took you so long?
I want to see if your answer supports my theory about you.
It was really just like, it's not available where I live.
Oh yeah, that's good.
Yeah, so I have to go somewhere to do it.
And when I be there, I don't be thinking about it.
And I was like, let me do it.
You know.
You think I'm an addict and I have addictive behavior and I was scared to start?
No.
No.
Because that might be the other answer.
No, I think that when you see people getting a lot of money somewhere, like Parks happened
to do last week, I think your antennas go up.
I mean, that was a reminder.
But Corey be winning.
I come in early and people be talking about it.
Corey and Ian be talking about it.
I just always forget.
But then I was sitting at the bar yesterday in New York waiting for my food.
Sure.
Hey, whatever, bro.
And I was like,
let me open this thing up.
Back to addictive behaviors.
I mean, let me see what happened, what I could do with Jay.
It was like Kevin Durant for over 25 and Jalen Brunson for over six and a half and six.
Made me a few stacks.
There you go.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I was like, are you a hit?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Malcolm going to have a good birthday.
You hit off the first try?
No, he not.
And my wife don't listen to this much of the podcast.
Yeah.
Damn, Mark.
Yeah, I did pretty good.
What'd you do last week?
Nothing.
That's crazy.
More than me.
Big Moan.
40K.
What the fuck up?
Where's my gotcha?
He's lying.
Not by a lot.
I'm not lying.
This is where I guess he's trying to see what you can do next.
I wouldn't put his business at it, but not by a lot.
I wouldn't put his business out.
He's lying.
Right after I put his business out.
Well, I'm going to be taking my little trips a little more often now.
25K.
You're trying to get this bottom.
I get it.
I'm telling you off air.
You told me off air.
Oh, I did.
Okay.
He hit.
Hit.
Look at him.
That nigga did look different this morning.
I said, damn, what is it about you?
Some prospects.
I thought it was the powder chain.
It's some new gel.
Got to get the good shit.
The good shit.
Get the good shit now.
Some new gel.
I went to the mall a couple days ago and finally stopped by the young black kid's booth that
I curse out every time.
Every time I go.
Every time I go there.
Joe support.
$25.
Why you doing that to them niggas?
Stop.
They keep looking.
Stop.
Get the fuck out of my face.
Why you keep doing it to them niggas?
Hey, leave me.
Would you leave me alone when I walk by?
I would say that to these niggas at least.
Yeah, they got a video of it.
29 times, right?
I thought these niggas would sell like shoes or some shit.
It's a cleaner.
No.
No.
They got socks.
I bought a socks.
No, no, no.
These people.
I'm talking about right outside of the Apple store in the mall.
They got all types of black shea butter mixed with pineapple mango.
Man, I bought that whole fucking booth.
That shit work.
It's good too.
What does that teach us, ladies and gentlemen?
Stay down until you come up.
Or until you run into Joe.
I know.
It's true though because in his comments this bitch was like, oh, I'm all for you.
You're always at the mall I work at.
But the shea butter might work differently on you.
Oh, God.
My skin better, right?
My shit glow more.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's cool.
All right, come on.
Let's stay on jail business, right?
Ah, fuck.
Rest in peace, K-Slay.
Fuck indeed.
You just made me sad the whole episode.
Lock in.
Reminded me of the period of time.
Like, God damn it.
K-Slay.
He's been passed away, right?
K-Slay died, Mona.
I knew that.
Rest in peace, the legend.
My man.
Did he?
Yes, he did.
Oh.
Oh.
Not did he, did he.
I see.
Hey, y'all running from me, y'all.
All right.
Nobody said nothing.
Y'all running from me.
You be trying to, yeah, I'm one of your lords.
Y'all running from it, yo.
What are we running from, Cliff?
He's running from the eulogy.
This nigga mucking on my hell game, bro.
I'm not running from the eulogy.
We talking about jail shit.
I mean, which I guess could connect.
Yeah, exactly.
A nigga that avoided jail.
Yeah, we can get to it, but I want to talk about Diddy first.
Puff lawyers are fouling for him to be released immediately
under the grounds of he was in there just doing adult sex stuff.
First and foremost, it's deeper than that.
They basically said that he was convicted based on the rules of the Mann Act,
which basically was an act that they kind of implemented
to stop Jack Johnson and all of the black entertainers,
really from fucking white chicks.
That was really what they were trying to stop him from doing.
It was Jack and Johnson.
All right, stop, nigga.
Come on, stop.
Yo, dog, stop, man.
So basically, I think his lawyers and what they said kind of made sense.
It's basically saying that he was flying in whomever he flew in
for acts that were not based on commercial purposes
because they said that one of the stipulations is based around commercial purposes.
So he like, yo, we was just doing this shit on some personal shit.
It wasn't like he was selling this shit.
We were like packaging it up and releasing it for profit.
Here's what his lawyers said.
Freak-offs and hotel nights were nightly choreographed,
I'm sorry, highly choreographed sexual performances
involving the use of costumes, role play, and stage lighting,
which were filmed so Combs and his girlfriends
could watch this amateur pornography later.
Pornography production and viewing of this sort
is protected by the First Amendment
and thus cannot constitutionally be prosecuted.
You can just be hiding behind that First Amendment, yo.
Yo, listen, loophole is a loophole.
My thing is this, like, even for commercial purposes,
it kind of didn't make sense when I started reading about it
because if that's the case, if you live in New York
and you fly to L.A. to shoot some porn
and they wrap it up and they sell it,
what's the difference, kind of?
No one likes porn with condoms on, Mish.
Carry on.
Where condoms came from?
Wrap it up. Carry on.
No, I'm just saying, so like, it was a fine line to me
on how you want to interpret the law.
I'm not saying Puff ain't a piece of shit,
or I don't feel like digs, niggas,
but what I'm saying is when you start adhering
to the letter of the law, his lawyers have a very good case.
Do you think they try to make an example out of Puff
because his lawyers said this is the most time
anyone's ever been convicted of with similar history?
For those charges, yes.
Like, for him to have gotten four years for those charges,
that was already, to me, not just.
Amateur porn is a tough argument.
It's a creative argument, and if I were him,
I'd want my lawyer.
I'd want my lawyer making it, and if I were the lawyer,
that's probably the best argument you could make.
I think the question they're going to have to deal with is
not was this stuff videotaped, which is a fact,
but was the primary purpose of these acts
to make amateur pornography,
or were they doing sex acts
that just happened to get videotaped?
Because for Puff's lawyer's argument to hold,
to obtain, it would mean that basically
all this shit was being done
so that we could make this production.
Isn't the prostitution the thing?
Yes.
The soliciting is a thing.
The cross-state lines is a thing.
The state lines was the thing.
Unless I'm hiring them as actors to be,
or performers to be in my porn.
Commerce has to be exchanged, right?
And this is where it gets tricky.
That's where it gets tricky, right?
Because if I pay you to be in a,
not you, if I pay a person,
no, I do way better.
If I were to pay Idris,
if I'm paying you to be in part of this amateur porn,
then it's a different argument.
It's a creative argument.
I just don't know if the court's going to buy it.
But who's the determining factor?
They've said, even in the court cases,
that they would go back and look at what they did.
Him and Shorty would go back and watch the tapes.
So he can now say, even document it,
that me and my girl would go back and watch the sex tapes.
But then is every time someone has sex on videotapes,
is that always amateur porn by definition?
That's the question I'm trying to get.
Again, that's what I'm saying.
It's just the personality.
It's the person that is ingesting the facts
and determining whether they tell. If you and your wife make porn
and y'all go back and watch it later on,
cool, let's say you and your wife decided to hire a chick
or hire a dude to join y'all
and y'all go back and watch it later on,
who's to say that that's not amateur porn
that y'all are enjoying at a later time?
But I think the issue is still. If at a later time my wife says,
hey, that's not what was happening,
I was being forced, I was being coerced,
I didn't want to do some of these. I was doing these things, I was being. Like, if your wife contradicts what you're saying,
then what?
Which is what the testimony has been.
Just for curiosity, I went to the wiki page
and the entry says in July 2nd, 2025,
he was found guilty of two counts of transportation
for the purposes of prostitution.
If you're hiring prostitutes for a porn,
you're still hiring prostitutes, no?
No, but hold on.
If I'm hiring them for the porn,
then it's not prostitution.
Why?
Because they're actors.
They ain't got no sad cards.
It's only prostitution if I'm not doing a porn.
Yes.
Okay.
But then it's like,
well, what's the testimony of the sex workers?
Are they saying, hey, I was hired to do amateur porn,
or are they saying I was hired to fuck?
That's a good point.
And that's what I'm saying.
It's going to be hard to. It's a good creative argument.
I just don't know if it's contradicted by the testimony.
The sex workers have already testified that. Yeah, they rocking with them.
And they testified to Puff.
And a couple of them are now suing Shorty.
Okay.
Right?
So some of the sex workers are saying. And a few more are suing him, too.
Suing Puff?
Yeah.
I didn't know.
I know some of them are suing Cassie.
A couple of the male sex workers are suing him.
I know some of them are suing. A couple of the dudes are suing Cassie.
But also some of the dudes said,
I've never spoken to Puff.
I've never had any interaction with Puff.
I've only spoken to Cassie.
Cassie's the person that hired me, not Puff.
Right.
So that's what they're saying.
So to your point,
when you're saying now you go back and say,
yo, I didn't want to do these things.
Now it's. Like, I'm not saying. I'm not taking a side.
I'm just being objective and saying,
yo, I never spoke to this man.
I got hired by her.
She's saying she enjoyed these things.
She's publicly said she enjoyed the freak-offs
and was having freak-offs even when Puff wasn't there.
Okay.
It's a gray line.
That's all I'm saying.
It's a gray line.
It's something to argue.
And sometimes reasonable doubt is enough
to get me the fuck out of here
and impose some gray lines.
I got a question.
It would be better to try out on a reasonable doubt
as opposed to now.
It should have been.
I got a question.
Is this. Because the first thing I'm thinking,
as a civilian myself,
the first thing I'm thinking is,
well, where did this come from?
Why didn't they just use this
to. You know, this angle while they were at trial.
But, of course, the answer I'm thinking is
they were already going to plan to appeal
as many times as they can,
and this is just their first shot at appeal.
Yeah, I think this is a better argument for appeal
probably than at trial.
That's my sense.
I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to. But based on what I've heard lawyers say
about this particular situation,
that seems to be the argument.
I've also heard lawyers say in the last 24 hours
that this is a strong argument.
They're not saying it's going to win,
but they're saying, like,
if you're going to appeal, this is a good one.
I don't think. Any argument he presents is going to win
just because of how I feel they feel about him.
Like, you turned down the $50 million bail nine times.
I don't feel like we don't want you out of here.
Agreed.
But the appellate court may have a different disposition.
That's true.
Because, you know, at different courts,
sometimes you have a conservative justice,
sometimes you have a liberal justice,
sometimes you might have somebody
who was on the bad boy tour.
You never know.
Like, you may look up and get the right judges
for your appeal.
You just don't know.
And some people are about the procedure
and the letter of the law.
As opposed to. Any emotional bias that you may have
based on seeing him beat up Cassie.
I think all of those things played a part
in him not getting exonerated.
And I also think they played a part
in his sentencing.
Yeah, agreed.
Like, that's the bigger thing.
Like, you can go find niggas
that really pimp for a living
and they don't get four years in jail
fed time for their first offense.
Yeah, this was. I'm talking about niggas that wake up
putting their foot in the. They don't get that.
So I think a lot of bias
played a part in his sentencing.
So you might get the right, again,
appellate court judge
that just goes by the letter of the law
and let him go.
It wouldn't shock. I don't. Or give some of his time back.
What he did?
He's done over a year and a half already.
Yeah.
Maybe two years.
It's going on two years.
That was the upside of not coming home on bail
all that time.
I think that he still has a harder way
to go than a regular person
because he's rich as fuck and he's black
on top of the fact of him being famous.
So it's like. Just like y'all saying,
some judges are this way, some judges. So that way, some judges just see rapper.
Just see black man.
Yeah, they don't care.
Yeah, so. And they won't care.
What are y'all predictions?
You think he wins this or no?
Nope.
Nah.
I think he comes home.
I think they eat some of the time.
I think. I was about to look to see
when he got locked up.
They could potentially give him time served.
If he did two years. Hell no.
He could get time served.
He only got sentenced to four years.
Time served when he walk out that day at court.
Yes.
Yeah, come on.
He was arrested September 2024.
Yeah.
So it was about a year and a half.
Yeah, he got a year and a half.
He pushed it two years.
That time is flying.
Yeah, it is.
That's what everybody not in jail say.
Time sure is flying.
Bro, September 2024.
I'm sure he don't feel that way.
He got sentenced to 48 months?
40 months?
Whatever his sentence was.
Wait a minute.
That's when he got sentenced
or that's when he got locked up?
When he got arrested.
That's what we talking about.
He been locked up for a year and a half.
He ain't never locked.
Boy, that time do go slow in jail, boy.
Yo, C.O., what time is it?
10, 12.
C.O., what time is it?
Yo, you go to sleep.
10, 15.
Yo, you go to sleep.
10, 16.
You wake up thinking
you had the best nap in the world.
11, 05, man.
You just asked me.
You're like, damn.
What the fuck?
I thought I was some. Bullshit.
Everybody not like you, nigga.
You had a lot of connections when you got locked up.
Had the phone in there.
Had the food.
We heard about you, boy.
It was a long weekend.
And I wouldn't be surprised if you was chilling after you came home.
Yo, you looked out for me.
So when I come home, I'm going to shout you out on the pod.
I know your tricks.
On the pod.
Damn, he would.
Him and Ice be selling pod shout outs.
Yeah.
He started doing that.
Yo, shout out to the CEO.
We know your tricks.
Yo, you never kept in touch with Shorty that when you got locked up at the pod and you
was like the sheriff or whoever that was.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
He kept in touch.
He was cool with the water.
He got her gram.
Look.
You got locked up in the pod, Jess.
That's my son.
You a dirty bitch.
Look at this.
After they talking, I just, I don't know.
Catch him on up.
Yeah, I'm ignoring these guys.
Ignore.
It's important.
Yo, you got the Sheriff Graham.
The Sheriff Graham, God.
Like, why?
This nigga is nuts.
This nigga is nuts.
Why?
You plan on getting locked up again?
Yo, I can't.
Can we?
We got a broadcast.
I don't like shit like that.
You're right.
He ain't been locked up since.
He ain't been locked up since, boys.
Oh, I just haven't committed any crime since.
That's not true.
That's not true.
I don't want to be blad, but.
Anyway, come on.
More gel.
More gel.
Come on.
Y'all twisted my arm a little bit on the puff shit.
This Matthew Perry shit, I'm standing strong.
Lock that.
This is a quick hit.
It's pretty interesting.
Let's do it.
Eric Adams is now Albanian.
Come on.
Congratulations.
All right, come on, Mark.
I called you Mark, though.
You can't tell him how he identifies.
What the fuck are we talking about?
He's been granted citizenship by Albania.
Okay.
Well, go Eric Adams.
That's always important.
You do be in them hookah spots.
Get them multiple passports ready.
Amen.
He was telling that bitch on Delta off, boy.
Oh, he was?
Yeah.
He said, I ain't the mayor no more, mama.
Come on, more jail shit.
The lady that drugged and killed Matthew Perry got-
What?
From Friends.
Matthew Perry from Friends got 15 years.
I think she should have got more.
Ish thinks she should have got less, and we're about to fight about it.
Is the lady that went to jail the doctor, or is she the middleman for the doctor?
She's just a dealer.
I think she was a dealer.
Oh, they got the dealer.
A street pharmacist.
I thought they were going after the doctors.
They're cracking down on the dealers these days.
I've read the book.
No, they're cracking down on dealers if you are responsible for some white,
black, famous person being killed.
They're not cracking down on dealers that killed Ray Ray and Kit Kat over there in the
Bronx or North.
Ray Ray died?
Also, ketamine has been found to be useful in a lot of situations.
Therapeutic, people getting off drugs with ketamine, people curing depression with ketamine.
I don't know.
I watched a documentary about somebody getting their kid ketamine in Mexico, and that was
the only thing that was helping them.
I don't know.
I read Matthew Perry's book.
I don't say that.
We're out here.
You're not allowed to read books?
No.
No, I mentioned it.
Not memoirs.
Not that Brandy fiasco last week.
No, not in a day like a geek.
Who wrote a book in a day?
Mark.
Mark read five books a week.
Will it take you a day to read?
Yes.
But Matthew Perry.
Goodwill Hunt, that's Nick.
How about them apples?
Hey, yo.
Hey, yo, Papa, I hope you're proud.
I'm reading.
My dead father.
Oh, shit.
I hope you're proud.
You playing with his family?
No, I apologize.
He playing with my family.
Wow.
You playing with my family?
That's a new low.
Damn, yo.
Mark, I said real shit.
Wait, that's what you was doing?
No.
Oh, shit.
I did it.
Damn.
Mark, I didn't say that.
It's okay.
Nah, because you're going to play a mod.
That would be a check.
So stop.
You played my wife.
Hit me up, too.
Heard what you said.
Stop it, man.
No, she didn't.
Yes, she did.
She watched.
Oh, that's what's up.
Why are you letting niggas feel like you're not coming home?
Yeah.
Where was you at when she told you that?
Now.
My wife hit me up.
Hit you in the ass?
Exactly.
I want to ask you, before this topic continues, are you of the belief that the same resources
used to find the killer of Matthew Perry should be the same resources used to find the killer
of Ray-Ray and Kit-Kat?
Absolutely.
I think for justice to be carried out equally is not a bad thing.
And not something that is a farce.
But a drug dealer, though?
Ideally, ideally, I'm not, I live in the real world.
I'm saying that ideally, if you're going to expend these resources for this human being,
the same resources need to be expended for that human being.
Oh, just ideally.
Yeah.
That's what creates all the inequities that we face today.
All lives matter, Joe.
When I first got in the streets at 14 years old, one of the very first lessons, not for me,
was if you're going to kill a motherfucker, kill somebody that motherfuckers ain't looking
for and don't care about.
Yeah.
That was one of the first things they told me.
So why would I think that Matthew Perry resources is going to be used for the crackhead and the
baby?
That just seems silly to me.
No, what I'm saying is-
It should.
It should.
What I'm saying is-
It should.
Yes.
It should.
These are tax-paying citizens, and so I think that it should be distributed accordingly.
But my ping pong I want to have with you, I think that this is the case.
I think your statement is true.
I just think it's-
True for famous people.
Yeah.
I think there's a crossroads where it can get racial, but for the most part, I think it's
a famous people thing.
Michael Williams drug dealers, they got them niggas in a week.
That is true.
They found them.
They did.
And served them up.
Mac Miller drug dealers.
That one took a little longer.
Yeah.
But-
The dude from-
Packed them up.
The dude from Mission Impossible, he lived-
You keep saying, who was that?
The white dude.
The white dude.
Parks, the white-haired white guy.
I forgot his name.
He was pretty good.
I thought it was Philip Seymour, but I don't think that it is.
Pretty good actor.
He's been in a few things.
But my thing is just this.
Like, yo, and you're giving somebody 15 years.
15 years is a lot.
That's a lot of time.
By the way, the doctor who they got last December got, I think, like 18 months or-
Yeah, like dog.
In what case?
For Matthew Perry's doctor.
I knew the doctor.
Matthew Perry's doctor also was convicted-
That's what I just asked y'all.
In December of 2025, and I think they got-
I could tell you, but-
Probably ratted on short.
It was no more than 18 months.
Somewhere between 16 and 18 months.
So the lady's name-
Because legally you can get that kind of shit, too.
The lady's name is Jasveen Senga.
Yeah.
Quote, unquote, the ketamine queen.
Yeah.
That's all the title.
She got to go.
You got a nickname?
Yeah.
Back her up.
Yeah.
And Salvador Plasencia is the physician who gave him ketamine.
He actually got 30, excuse me, it was 30 months in prison.
See, I would feel, I would go against Ish if it was like tainted ketamine, if it was
fentanyl or something in there.
But if it's-
What he ordered, and he took too much of it.
He should have read this-
15 sounds very excessive.
He should have read this-
I don't think he did.
But ordered from who?
If you're ordering from the street dealer and you overdose, they're coming to get the
street dealer.
Oh, they coming to get y'all.
Oh, yeah.
I just want to say it's a little excessive.
This just shouldn't be illegal is the problem.
If you poison the drugs, I think you should get 15.
Because now you're lying.
You're killing me.
Like if I sell you a Colt 45 and a Colt 45 got some fent in it, you don't know you taking
fent.
I think-
I'm freestyling, but I'm pretty sure Mac, rest in peace, was either coke or pills that
had fentanyl in it.
They fucked him up, yeah.
That's extremely fucked up in my opinion.
That was Michael K. Williams too.
Also, but you know what?
I remember at first it was this thing where people would be selling drugs and it would
be fake drugs and they would cut it with fentanyl, right?
But then it became a thing where-
They want the fent.
People are selling drugs and it's fentanyl and they know it's fentanyl.
They know it, they want it.
So whether it's like a fake Xanax-
Xanax or a fake Percocet, they still know that it's fentanyl because it's half the price
and this person never runs out, right?
So it's like that changed.
In the beginning, people were overdosing that way and people's family members would be like,
oh, we're going to fuck them up.
Who sold them this?
Now, people kind of know that these motherfuckers are addicted to the shit they wanted.
Yeah, stepped on.
It's not even stepped on.
Man, stepped on.
It's a market for that.
Yes, they are-
Where there are pills, where there are certain drugs in, the ingredients, fentanyl, and you
want it.
And that is-
And the people are aware of that?
Aware, sure.
I thought it was the younger people.
It's almost like, it ain't an age thing.
It's almost like you would have a pill block that people get from Rite Aid, but then it's
a pill block of all fentanyl.
And people go to that pill block because that's cheaper than the Rite Aid block.
Now, also, sometimes, I think that's true.
I think some people choose.
Yeah, but I also do think sometimes it's just like, oh, this guy's got good fucking perks.
That's what I do.
Not knowing that it's fentanyl in there.
I just know he's got some fire shit.
And I want more.
Like, they might not be asking, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Niggas be lacing niggas with fentanyl.
That's what I'm telling you.
Everybody's not aware that there's fentanyl in there.
It used to, but this is what I'm saying.
This is what I'm saying.
I heard what you're saying.
There was a time where it was a laced thing.
I just think that nowadays, as more people know what the fuck is going on, they're buying
it.
It's cheaper.
They want it.
It's not a trick.
Oh, I don't know.
Niggas know.
I don't think Shorty shouldn't go to jail.
Like, be clear, I'm not saying that I don't think she should go to jail.
I'm saying that 15 years.
How do you kill a nigga from Friends?
Matt was a monster.
I read that man.
He was a monster.
I don't want to be.
He was.
I don't want to be.
Wait, Matthew Perry was a monster?
Matthew Perry was a drug addict, and drug addiction causes you to be a monster sometimes.
Matthew Perry discovered drugs early on in his career, and it got worse and worse and
worse.
When he was on Friends, when Friends was at the height, he was fucked up.
You can see it.
They was high.
Look how skinny he was.
They was covering him up.
And most of the people that worked there and that ran shit knew it, but that show was that
big that you could not take him off.
You could not replace him.
Okay, for me, if you call somebody a monster, I need more than they did.
Yeah, I did.
We'll understand.
He was high.
Was he just doing cocaine?
No, it wasn't no cocaine.
He was like an opiate person, like a pill person.
A pill pop.
He would do a lot.
Alcoholism.
Was he doing terrible things?
Yeah, had there been any reports of sexual assault?
I'm sorry.
When I should have said a drug-eating monster.
She mean like a fiend.
Not like that.
Not a bad person.
But things that come with drug addiction,
cheat on your girl, whatever, you fucking,
you having fun, you partying, regular shit.
You know?
Not like a. Let me take that back.
Yo, y'all calling a nigga a fiend and a monster.
That seems out of pocket.
They're not equivalent.
He was home.
Chilling in the hot tub.
Trying to get high.
Okay.
I'm not calling him a monster.
Yeah, I've heard of worse ways to get high.
Word.
Yeah.
So what do you think the time should be?
Like, not 15.
I say zero.
I think it depends on what your. Mark, shut your mouth.
I'm serious.
I'm with Mark, actually.
I think you should be charged like a drug dealer.
Like, I think it should be uniformity across the board.
Like, I don't think that you should get more time
based on what person used your drugs
and their level of success.
I think drugs should be legal.
I think they should be legal.
I don't think nobody should get time for that.
Why are people. I'm providing you a service.
You want this.
You don't want to go to the ghetto.
You don't want to walk around all these people.
I'm coming to the crib real quick.
Sometimes we smoke a blunt together.
I sell you a little drugs.
I know the kids.
It's simple shit.
Get some head.
I know your mom.
What?
What the fuck is Mark talking about?
Niggas get head for their dealers.
Niggas get head for them.
Mark, did you just say get some head?
I might have.
I might have.
Oh, my God.
So I'm delivering this man powder and sucking his dick.
No.
No, I wouldn't.
Some of the dealers get your head.
Bro, I never heard no motherfucking drug dealer.
I'm going to go sell a dick sucker at the same time.
Fuck y'all.
Where the fuck you at?
That's that bullshit.
You're the only girl.
If anybody else was saying it, if fucking Ish was selling his back in the day drug,
so y'all wouldn't say, oh, did you suck a titty too?
So you're not big on customer service.
He did suck a titty.
Fuck off.
He did suck titties.
I'm sure he did.
That fucking chain is getting to your fucking head.
Mona, this nigga was dropping off clothes and knocking it off.
How much you want?
Nigga, what a Google review.
There's no woman drug dealer that's giving up pussy.
That's the case.
You're just going to sell pussy.
Yeah, his name in the streets.
His name is Muddy, boy.
Yo, you heard about the landlord that give head?
You heard about the nigga that give head?
I haven't heard.
They ain't heard a peep.
You crazy as hell.
Now, they found mad shit in the shorty crib.
They said they found thousands of pills that included meth, cocaine, and Xanis.
She's a drug dealer.
She's a drug dealer.
Look, if people want to get high, let them get high.
I don't support criminalizing that stuff, and I don't support.
I think we actually create a market that makes it more violent and more dangerous.
We know it doesn't work.
That's where the violence comes in.
We know the way we handle drugs in this country and what it does and how it does.
So, it's like at this point, we know that people that are addicts should get treatment.
Now, we still don't know that people that sell drugs need treatment, too.
That part is still fucked up, but it's like things that we've done in the past do not work.
That's a fact.
Niggas used to go to jail.
Niggas used to come have a baby, middle of the crack epidemic.
Everybody on crack.
You go to the hospital, you have a baby.
They lock you up, take the baby.
It's crack.
It just makes no sense.
Then they would have all this, the crack baby, the crack baby.
They did all these studies.
These babies didn't have an issue.
Just locking them up for nothing.
Destroying the family for nothing.
Crazy shit.
It doesn't work.
Rest in peace, Matthew.
You're saying throw the key away.
No, not throw the key away.
Y'all might have twisted me a little on this one, too.
Again, huh?
Oh, okay.
Because I need to hear more.
I think drugs should be legal and regulated so you're getting what you fucking want to get.
And maybe you can't buy as much heroin as you will kill.
Do they have some stuff like these shops or set up where you can shoot up your heroin now in New York City?
I love those.
In Amsterdam forever.
No, like in New York.
You're talking about SIFs.
Is that what I'm talking about?
Safe injection facilities.
That's crazy to me.
Well, it is until you think about it a little differently, right?
Why?
People who, if you don't have a safe injection facility, then people are under bridges doing it.
They're sharing work.
They're sharing needles.
Needles laying around.
Without those facilities, getting rid of facilities doesn't stop people from getting high.
It just makes people get high.
They're unsafe.
It's like when people say, if you give out condoms in school, kids are going to be fucking.
Kids are always fucking.
And it makes people get high in a park where kids are going to be the next day.
Exactly.
That shit's laying around.
On top of the fact, B-Dot, it works in other countries.
So we've seen other countries.
Them people have safe places to shoot, and that's where they go.
But that shit's going to kill you.
Right.
Didn't you see the commercial?
But you're going to get high and die anyway.
I've never seen a heroin addict not take heroin because they didn't have a safe facility.
And here's the other thing.
When you have a safe injection facility, you can also have social workers there, health
workers, workers.
If you know where the drug addicts are going to be, you can actually treat them and get
them off of drugs.
That's true.
When they're shooting heroin in the ass behind a dumpster, you can't do nothing with that.
Y'all ain't going to lie.
I forgot how it feels to have Ishmark and Mona together on drug topics.
Yeah.
Parks is with us, too.
They're about to go into the knock conversation.
They put knock in the trees.
Yeah, you know this.
They almost went down.
These three boys.
They body this shit.
Oh, my God.
Stupid, yo.
Especially Mark.
Mark in his bag?
You damned if you do, damned if you don't.
That's true.
That's true.
You figured it out.
We happy you hit him.
You figured it out.
You look.
I'm telling you, you damned if you do, you damned if you goddamn don't.
And I never sucked a dick after I broke somebody some goddamn coke.
Fuck.
Talk to the people with drug and substance abuse issues.
They telling you that motherfucking metal.
Shout out to people that are in prison for way longer than they should be.
Way longer.
People in jail for selling weed.
So free her in advance?
I don't know, please.
Free her in advance?
Free her.
I don't know about free her, but yeah, free her, actually.
I say free her.
I'm saying free them all.
People in jail for selling fucking weed.
Yeah.
I don't want niggas to get killed.
20 years.
Not free them, Joe?
I definitely don't want them to get killed.
This lady?
I don't know.
I'm saving my freeze for somebody that I care about.
He's saving his freeze like it's a limited amount.
Right.
You have unlimited freeze, Joe.
No, I don't have unlimited freeze.
Why?
I don't want unlimited niggas free.
Free the sacklers.
Yeah, man.
Start the keep movement.
Free the jails except mystical.
Keep mystical.
Ain't a bad rule.
Yo, you're great.
Yeah, freaky ass.
Mystical, dangerous.
No, keep them locked.
Keep the tree jugglers.
All the sex guys, you gotta keep them niggas locked up.
There's nothing we can do with them.
Keep mystical.
Those guys.
Yeah.
You want Pooh Shizzy's danger?
I don't want him out.
Oh, shit.
At least not New Jersey.
I don't want him in New England.
That's gonna be dangerous.
I want them to fuck with me.
The East Coast.
New England.
That's too close.
New Rochelle.
Right.
New Delhi.
Fuck this shit.
Anyway, I ain't gonna hold you.
New Guinea, man.
New England.
New Guinea, nigga.
What the fuck?
What the fuck is happening?
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Come on.
Shit, now's a good time to get to some of the sexy, freaky topics that we got.
Yikes.
I know it feels like we did that with the puff shit, but-
About to say.
I feel like this is what we've been doing this whole episode.
We can go to Diana Rossini, or we can go to-
Fun or sad?
Nick Glazer.
Oh, okay.
Nicky Glazer.
I thought we were talking about the big RIP, because that's also-
No, that's not sexy.
That's there, too.
Actually, yeah.
Come on, Mark.
The suspension's killing me.
Go ahead and do it.
There's no suspense.
All right, so we got a couple of RIPs that we want to do.
You know the one we're waiting on.
Yeah.
Come on.
First, I'm going to give one to Blondie, a hip-hop legend from the group Sequence.
Of course, we shouted out and did a RIP to Angie Stone, her bandmate and co-founder.
It's been almost a year now that Angie Stone passed?
Damn.
Already?
Time's still flying.
I might be wrong about the date, but it's just-
It probably has been about a year.
It's been about a year, almost.
But Blondie was the other-
Well, they make up the two-thirds of the group.
These are hip-hop pioneers, hip-hop legends.
And again, we often don't write Sequence in particular in the hip-hop history, but often
early women pioneers in the hip-hop history.
So I just wanted to shout out Blondie, who passed away this week.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace to her.
The big story that everybody's been talking about for the last 24 hours has been the death
of Afrika Bambaataa.
Indeed.
And this may be-
It's a complicated one.
The toughest eulogy.
The toughest eulogy that I've ever had to do up here.
Why?
You know, the word eulogy, etymologically, the first word, e-u-
Yes.
Get into your fucking etymological bag.
What's wrong with that guy?
Think about it, right?
I mean, that logos is words, but that u means good.
Eulogy is good words.
And it's hard to-
Who knew that?
Mark.
I had no idea.
It's in books.
Fuck you, Mark.
All kinds of shit in books.
And it's hard to give a eulogy for Afrika Bambaataa.
I mean, anybody who knows hip hop knows that Afrika Bambaataa is one of the pioneers.
You can't talk about hip hop without talking about Afrika Bambaataa.
In 1982, Planet Rock becomes not just a soundtrack to the streets and one of the most important
hip hop songs ever made.
Some of y'all know it from the City Girls remake.
But he really put hip hop on a map in a different kind of way.
And even before that, in the late 70s, early 80s, as a DJ, you know, when hip hop was still
a local event, when hip hop was still a live event, when the DJ was the centerpiece in
some ways more than the MC, he was there as well.
You can't talk hip hop without talking Afrika Bambaataa, and you can't talk about hip hop
culture without talking about the Universal Zulu Nation.
Indeed.
By the time you get to the late 80s, early 90s, with like the cultural nationalism of
hip hop, when everybody's wearing braids and sarongs and colors, and you got all these
groups out there, they owe a debt.
Yeah.
where it comes from.
Yeah, they owe that
to the Universal Zulu Nation.
That often doesn't get written
into the history of hip-hop you know by the time we get to native tongues we've already we're
already almost a generation past what universal zulu nation did so africa bambada was the leader
of all of that and so under a normal situation we would have started with some band music we would
have started with uh you know planet rock and we wouldn't be shouting him out and we'd be pouring
out liquor for africa bambada but it's impossible for me for me too yeah right for all of us right
with any kind of principle or care to talk about africa bambada um the way we talk about other
people in a eulogy because for all the contributions he's made to hip-hop he's also
done tremendous harm you know one of the most vocal voices that we've seen and heard
is hassan campbell who's come forward to talk about the sexual violence that uh was perpetrated
by africa bambada against him he's talked about that that's his story the second worst thing
africa bambada did bring us this nigga to never stop talking oh my god i guess i'm fucking oh but
but i mean he's he's a lot but that's what untreated trauma looks like sometimes um last
year africa bambada lost a civil case by an anonymous accuser for sexual uh abuse and i
believe trafficking as well uh but over the course of decades we've heard the stories yeah
firsthand accounts not just people who heard something who heard something who heard something
but people who come forward and say africa bambada when i was a child harmed me he abused me he you
know he did all kinds of things to me and unfortunately too much of hip-hop culture uh has
been lionizing him and ignoring the harm even when it's come forward and some of the biggest
names in hip-hop history some of the biggest pioneers in hip-hop history have whitewashed
that ignored or even said it's not important or it's less important than what bam contributed to
um to the culture um and i think that that's a sickness it's not about hip-hop that's just a
social collective societal cultural sickness we all ignore the screams of children too often
uh and so i don't have a rest in peace for africa bambada uh but i do have uh words of healing and
condolences and love and care uh for all the people that he harmed um we'll never forget
or write him out of hip-hop history um but we always have to have that asterisk next to it
because those children matter far more than any musical contribution very well said thank you
mark very well said you smoked that mark yeah you did yeah good job damn i thought we had him
i thought we almost had this one idea i thought this one would be a little tricky he smoked the
shit out of that he did he smoked the shit out of that shit philly niggas do under pressure
just more just more oh well that's enough
and i mean
judges will make one minor correction you can definitely write them out of the hip-hop story
you tell yeah you don't have to include this one bit in a way right but we got to tell the truth
yeah we could keep the song and something i don't know it's always tricky with these yeah i didn't
lose any sleep last night when did they start when he first started getting started getting accused
because i didn't hear nothing so i didn't know so it's interesting so i have a so he he a guy
i worked with people from
the bronx for a very long time that were kind of aware or heard rumblings or heard stories like you
said third fourth fifth party or whatever it's kind of been known for a while at some level
they called him a boogeyman out there yeah they called him a boogeyman he had a lot of tough
niggas around him he was just doing a lot of nasty shit you know i'm saying at first i heard it was
from a guy named b stinger and yeah and he talked about it and um then i heard hassan campbell what
you're saying mom the first sign i had was when he he was best friends with the leader of dr york
oh yeah oh shit yeah he was full circle when i was in i remember being a kid seeing him a teenager
uh and bam came up to the land a couple times in georgia uh and over the last time i saw him
because i didn't really know bam i never really i've interacted with him and before i knew
the monster stories i saw him uh the national hip was it by political it was somewhere and um
he had on the the paraphernalia of the call and we talked for a few minutes maybe like a year or
two later i heard he was a guy named b stinger and he was a guy named b stinger and he was a guy
uh everything but then i started putting two and two together because dr york didn't have really
friends he didn't really kick it with a lot of people gotcha but he kicked it with i'm not and
i don't i don't know what to make of that in terms of their specific story yeah but it's a hell of a
coincidence right that they would be together kick it together and any stories come out i
recorded i recorded bam and maybe oh nine and i did not know about any of this shit yeah so
sometime after that i would say especially after what you say with uh dr york because
at that point in dr york's life and please correct me if i'm wrong he has the most control
because he has his own land like it's his own so you can do what the fuck you want to do there so
it's like y'all gonna be friends anywhere it's friends where he's and he's come to that land
yep i bet freaky ass niggas that's crazy yeah it is that's some crazy wild shit word yeah that's
sick though that's crazy there's no real transition no that's a tough one that's a tough one all right
well we're staying with all things kinky okay uh diana russini was seen at an and diana russini is
the head nfl analyst for the athletic used to work for espn uh she was seen at an arizona resort
hugged up with mike vrabel the head coach for the new england patriots uh and it was a big story
released by the times including pictures and yeah that's it that's the story are they both single
they're both married oh yeah uh mike vrabel has been married since 99 uh diana russini diana
russini has been married since 2020 uh and this is the second time that diana russini's name has
been undivided in 2015 uh somebody that worked for him and he's been married for a long time
for the redskins the commanders but the redskins then uh their wife accused diana russini of
inappropriate behavior with the husband and yada yada yada she later apologized and not diana the
wife later apologized and said she shouldn't come forward and yada yada yada but this is the second
time now why this story is absolutely hilarious is every single clip that you find of diana russini
talking about her husband sounds like a complete shit
show and a mess if you haven't heard him i have him for you of course you do
like to hear it here we go please come on i'm not gonna eat my family's gonna hate me
for 12 days i'm not gonna sleep i'm not gonna eat my family's gonna hate me my husband's gonna
threaten divorce but we've signed up for this this i didn't sign up i was not ready um and
we're getting divorced at the end of the year right stop breaking news she'd be doing this
on sports shows
sorry kev diana with the the eagles he doesn't even know who i am right now
he's okay oh yes he we've talked about we've never been more disconnected
in our lives our text messages look like two robots hello just go through the motions
yes is he getting the insider in the uh in the divorce love you any of that love you love you
too no not even an emoji i get a picture of mikey
and joey looking adorable and perfectly dressed because kevin's so good at that right and
i'll write back miss you guys you too he texts us the next day yeah going to work i'm like
what 15 hours just passed right so i have a lot of i have a lot of work to do guys when
i get home a lot of work to do on your marriage that's what you're saying yeah my marriage
i'm going to be a full insider on my marriage the second i land right wow that's you know
who lets me know my marriage is falling apart my mom so that's good oh does she oh really
what do you think about that yeah i'm going to be a full insider on my marriage the second
i'm going to walk over here what she said to you this is real different show different day yes yes please do it see i don't like this is funny hey thank you so much kev told me that you stopped by the house oh yeah yeah he looks good he looks really good i go yeah i was like he doesn't seem as stressed this year she's like you know what i'm starting to think he's got a girlfriend and you know what good for him
he looks good he's successful his wife's
never around you love this football thing that sounds like what's your mom
i went right back i go why would you see that to me right now while i'm on a trip
right that my husband has a girlfriend yeah and ah just keeping you on your toes you know
i don't need to be kept on my toes i need help she likes you to be in the most vulnerable spot
it's so messed up across the country as far as you can be from new jersey right now right there's
nothing i can do yes and yet she's out here throwing things in my head right now i'm wondering i'm like ah that one girl in his office is really pretty yes shoot you're starting to think of who right again this is a sports show i'm just about to ask
any point you want to start about the score no i did things in miami i haven't even told my husband
because it's just i had that much fun it was not like that but like i knew he would judge the kind of party and i was doing i don't know
what got into me i just remember being down there acting like it was my last day on earth
as strong as me oh my god no i didn't think damn so yeah i just need a best friend anybody in broadcast makes joke on their wives or husbands
And you could make a super cut of literally any of us up here saying a bunch of jokes that in hindsight would look absolutely crazy.
I think the big story here is that everyone assumes that any mildly attractive woman in sports broadcasting in particular is there because she's fucking.
That is the assumption by a lot of people.
Wait, huh?
How do we get to that being the big story?
People assuming that the sports ladies are fucking.
That is what people think.
Yeah.
What he's saying is that.
But now we talking about somebody that's fucking.
But what he's saying is that people joking around and playing around is going to always look bad in the montage.
On top of the fact that people are already assuming you're a hoe just because you're in this male dominated field.
Just like when that girl came out with Brett Favre.
If all you have to go off is a montage.
But when it's combined with action, like nobody pulled any of this up before we knew that she was fucking Mike Vrabel.
So we're trying to talk through the situation.
Diana, what's up?
More tips for part two.
Guys, I told your producer that I want to be.
Introduce now.
I don't want to be inside or I don't want to be Scoop City podcast host.
I just want to be milk.
Just straight up milk.
That's what I'm going for.
What the hell?
You're talking crazy.
Damn.
That's all funny to me.
Yeah.
I think that's his funny banter.
No.
I think that.
Not with the action that's going behind you.
Yeah.
That's what you're moving.
But I can compartmentalize what she's doing as a profession with her actions off camera and off mic.
I don't think.
I mean, well, now they correlated.
But I think that her.
Me and one of the boys, all of like the female cops.
I know they talk like dudes, bartenders, shit like that.
You around men all day.
So blow it out your asshole, Johnny.
Suck my dick.
Like women will say all of those things because they wanted a boy.
So I look at that as that.
Her doing whatever she was doing again outside is something totally different.
So like she was ready.
Yeah.
I agree.
A montage just can look like montage.
It can look like more than a montage.
It did seem like she had a.
It was.
Maybe it's her bit.
She's always.
Talk about her marriage.
It would just seem like a lot of a lot of.
Is the is the narrative because I don't know the story.
I know.
I saw the photos of them on the rooftop.
I know all that is the is the assumption that she's cheating.
No, it's not.
Or that she's secret or that.
No, I mean.
Yeah.
The assumption is that they both cheat.
Because my assumption when I see people that brazen.
Is that they're separate.
That they're separated.
And this is they're kind of coming out.
That's actually what I assume.
Because when I mean, the rooftop they were on, I think it's 21, 22.
Almost 22.
A hundred dollars a night.
It's a very private.
I was about to say.
This is a private high end resort in Arizona.
Overlooking the mountains.
And Sedona.
One of the wellness fly shits.
And I think that you don't think that anybody has a camera that's looking at you when I'm
in this dope ass hot tub.
Or.
Well, somebody had a P.I.
On them.
Oh.
Or.
You didn't say that part, Joe.
Somebody had a P.I.
On them.
There ain't nobody up there.
That's where you go to do that.
Or.
Nobody up there got their phone out.
Let me offer a different take.
Because I think that could be it.
I think the other possibility, though, is that they called it on themselves.
They called the paparazzi on themselves.
They did it on themselves.
Because she wants to come out with this relationship.
That they're both separated.
And this is their coming out party.
Well, I'm not rolling with that.
Only because whoever had these pictures tried to sell them to TMZ.
To come on the media out there.
Say less.
And I'm told that before this, there were other pictures that they had.
That come from like really, really, really, really far away.
Got you, got you, got you, got you.
Like not the iPhone close up pictures.
Right, these are pro.
Really?
Yeah, so I'm with your first one.
Maybe somebody separated.
I still think they're separated, yeah.
And we don't know.
Because you put a P.I. on your partner.
Something's going on.
Yes.
When you start going on.
When you're famous and you start going on vacation with somebody who's not your partner.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
That's a lot.
You're pretty much more clips.
Diana Rossini said this.
And I think we all do weird things when we're in love.
And we overshare and over post.
And look, he's getting married to a beautiful actress.
I'm married to someone average.
I don't post a lot about it.
I don't post too.
You know who lets me know my marriage is falling apart?
My mom.
Did that one.
She called that nigga average.
She issued a statement though.
She did?
Yeah, she issued a statement.
Let's hear it.
Read it.
So that kind of goes against the.
Who issued a statement?
Diane.
It says that I did something this past weekend that I'm deeply ashamed of.
I think that's A.I.
Oh.
I think.
That's from a parody account.
It don't sound.
Keep reading it.
They got him again?
Maybe.
What does it say?
I'm reading on my boy.
They got my boy.
Diana Rossini.
He's so old, yo.
He ain't saying shit, nigga.
How would you know if it?
Because I saw all of them too.
I saw.
They say Mike Vrabel, Diana.
But I went to the account that posted it.
It says parody up top.
I don't know if that's where yours is from.
I don't know.
I got it from.
Yeah.
I don't see.
Any credible source saying that there's a statement.
I see that I did something I'm ashamed of.
But I think that that's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
When you read it.
You read what she said.
Yeah, she's joking.
It go down.
How many of the sports reported chicks you think is.
Is.
Fucking.
Damn.
Parks.
Yeah.
I think that's what he was asking.
Let's get the brass tacks.
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
Why?
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
I think a lot.
What do you mean by fucking?
What do you mean?
What do we mean?
No, you mean fucking to get there or fucking their co-host?
I'm just saying fucking.
I'm not putting in.
But I'm not mad.
Everybody's fucking.
That's what I mean.
I'm not mad at them.
No, I mean.
I don't.
That's what I mean.
Fucking in the workplace.
Ah.
Yeah.
Why would you not?
That's crazy.
Why would you not fuck in the workplace?
Most cops fuck.
Most nurses.
Most doctors.
Well, the workplace is a conflict.
Yeah.
You're around a whole bunch of people.
It's going to be a whole bunch of different males that you might find attractive.
A lot of them are relatively successful.
Why would you not fuck one of them if you're single?
But there's clauses behind that, too, nowadays, right?
Yeah.
And?
It happens.
This is my thing about Parks and Marks.
And I enjoy a good bit, too.
I have running bits about my fucking partner.
So I totally understand that part.
But you also know when you could pop one of these bitches.
Like, you also know when they come around talking a certain way, talking a certain way
about it.
They may have reprimands.
They may have repeatedly around a room full of guys.
At some point, somebody's going to say, you know what?
I can pop this hoe.
Of course.
Jalen Rose and Molly did it pretty smooth, I think.
It didn't get really messy on air.
So did it?
No.
No, it didn't.
But I think that might.
Salute to them.
Steve and I spoke to Jalen Rose in about five years.
Have we even seen them two together?
Jalen and Steve, I fuck with them.
Jalen's no longer ESPN, that's why.
It's only purely.
That's silly.
That's silly.
That's the only reason.
It has nothing to do with anything personal.
See, hey, when a plan don't work.
Now, I think both of them might just be stand up.
And they ain't want to do it.
Yeah.
Mark, do you think Molly was fucking to get in before you leave?
Absolutely not.
And I'm getting up just because I'm coughing.
The timing looks suspicious now because of how Joe just did that.
No, I have no reason to believe that Molly was.
I think she was the most professional and followed every rule.
Of course.
The only thing I've ever heard.
Of course.
And same thing for Jalen Rose.
Jalen and Steven.
Yeah, see, that's the point.
I agree.
That's the piece I don't like.
I just think that, yo, human beings are human beings, yo.
You might find somebody attractive.
They don't necessarily got to be an incentive behind it.
I think that's where the insulting part comes in.
She just might like fucking.
Like, again, nurses fuck.
Teachers be fucking.
Police chicks, they fuck.
If you in a room about men all day, then one of them might.
Fuck you.
That's bullshit.
Let's hear what?
Which piece?
Which piece?
It goes to the same thing you said from the beginning.
People just assume when you're a woman in that kind of industry.
An attractive woman specifically.
An attractive woman for sure.
They just assume that you fuck.
It's, what is it?
What is that, Mark?
Patriarchy?
Yep.
That's what that is.
Yeah, it's bullshit.
It doesn't happen the other way, ever.
A man that is attractive works around women all day long?
One or multiple women are getting popped.
Are you opposed to, like, fucking in the workplace?
Like, how do you, what are your views on that?
You talking to me?
Yeah.
As he looks directly at you, I ain't asking you a question.
Nah, nah, nah.
You talking to Mr.
And don't look at lips, nigga.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not opposed to that.
Oh, we know.
Have you got two concerns?
I'm never.
Yes, I have.
Yes, I have.
I'm saying that.
Subways, nigga.
I'm fresh.
Oh, yeah.
All kinds of meetups.
Subway.
You were definitely fucking the chicks when you worked at Subway Corporate.
Nah, it was like seven, eight people in the office.
Yeah, but you would go down to them local stores.
You would go down and visit the stores.
You would visit the stores.
You go down to them stores.
Yeah.
You'd be at the Subway indictment.
Hey, look at this.
So, Subway's doing the census test.
Just making sure everything is up to code.
Making sure the tomatoes are by salami.
Who needs a footlong?
Oh, shit.
Nah, I'm not.
I'll call someone.
I can't handle that.
Oh, you like that?
Let me call my man.
You never fucked at Century 21?
I never worked at Century 21.
Macy's.
Oh, I thought you.
You worked across the street from Century 21.
I got it.
What about Macy's?
I never worked at Macy's, man.
He just give you random jobs?
He worked at a lot of jobs.
Wait, you still was fucking chicks at Macy's?
Right.
You was, man.
Don't lie.
While he was boosting.
Nah, I'm not against sex in the workplace.
I think you play the game.
You know what you could potentially be getting yourself into.
I think we are adults.
depends on the job in my opinion really yeah i think you're in a powerful position then you know
what you're getting yourself into when you play in a game i think that if yo you are an adult woman
you are an adult man and y'all hit it off at work that's a possibility bro you're around somebody
eight to ten hours a day but that shouldn't be a possibility when you're married i'm not so to
married people say that's what i'm saying that's ideally speaking that's ideally speaking because
you could be in a workplace with somebody and it ain't start off like that you just kicking it
y'all just laughing joking and their personality could be something that you find attractive like
on impossible women next you know you slip on a banana peel and right on the nah hey but yeah
hey bye go out for happy hour you go off a happy hour y'all laughing y'all joking christmas party
little dance little dance need to think you're getting hard on your butt work trip christmas
party that's what happens terry cruz over there by the punch bowl yo gotta walk over there
see what's up have y'all ever have y'all ever well had like got involved with somebody
just
yeah but i was at a restaurant so that's just normal everybody fucks at the restaurant i was
fucking the guy at the gas station over there holy cow excuse me i was like i was young though
yo what you did at the gas i was fresh out of jelly made me get a job i love you today i was
fresh out of jelly made me get a job what was your job here okay i was a cashier i'm not from
jersey nigga don't pump no gas boy we want a hot dog that's it the biggest thing i did was i
did please 2021 uh 2021 50 cent straight 50 cent box three dollars on powerball that was the most
intricate intricate part of the job yeah lottery yeah but i had it for um parole and that made the
job so much funner getting fucked back there niggas was fucking the powerball girl at the gas
station you're gonna get some tickets yeah you know y'all never fucking about the job yeah it's
the restaurant for sure the sex is better you're the only one that said something everybody else
i've done it i never did it was it a black guy i didn't have a lot of jobs i've never touched
nothing that wasn't a black okay because you know the gas stations is yeah different it's what
it's what it's multicultural
don't worry about it don't repeat it now you get it started look
look at your man now
yo you stopped me
oh
you guys yeah this is racist
it was right there it was cool all right so none of y'all care that diana russini's a hoe
she might not be a hoe i think she could be separated and just moved on to somebody else
or they could have just been enjoying some sort of private uh
or they could be fucking my nigga like what are we talking about i'm just saying she
might not be cheating i'm not so i'm not definitely fucking but i'm not calling it
based off her having a husband and fucking mike vrabel okay i'm basing it off her having a husband
fucking mike vrabel and comfortably walking in rooms of five and more talking that talk you're
trying to get piped you are trying to get piped i hate when this room act like we can't tell the
older white lady who come in i didn't i didn't refute when you said yo when jay walk in a room
talking like that
you're not talking about me you're not talking about me you're not talking about me you're not
The dudes look around.
It's a layer.
She's trying to get fucked, letting niggas know it's safe to come here.
Niggas guess that came up here, and when they leave, we be looking at each other like, yeah, she's a layer.
That's only you.
I've never said that.
That's only you.
That's only you.
That's why niggas don't pie.
That's only you, man.
No one can do that.
It's only you.
You be like this.
I just got here.
Sweet Georgia Browns start playing.
You be like this.
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.
Razzle dazzle.
That's only you, boy.
He's on fire.
Yeah, I know.
We don't do that, boy.
I know.
See?
You were free.
But now that you said that, I got to think how many guests I could have fucked.
Nigga, you can't do this to me, because I know you.
Boy, I didn't do nothing.
I just said I was asking myself a question.
No, what I'm saying is, and I know how your brain works.
So when somebody leave out of here, you'll look at me like, and it could be an unsaid thing.
Who the hell is for like that?
Alexis Texas?
We did that?
We did that.
Hey.
Now that you're saying it.
It's coming back to me now.
You don't want to fuck both of us, right?
You see what he's doing?
He's saying shit that he wouldn't fuck.
He's trying to do the okey-doke.
Who wouldn't fuck Alexis Texas?
You would?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
It's a pro.
Monday Night Raw.
What?
What the fuck is she talking about?
You hitting that Raw?
During the wrestling match.
You hitting the Raw?
I hit everything Raw.
Oh, shit.
What?
I think I know who he was talking about.
Fuck.
Jack Revis style.
Alexis Texas Raw?
Respect.
He said he hit everything Raw, boy.
Up until now, me and Ish were the only people here who proudly used condoms.
Oh, my goodness.
Ish was the only nigga.
We were single.
He's the, you know, condom promoter.
Mark said so.
Oh, you too, Mark?
What, you use condoms?
But also, they've had a lot more sex than me, too.
You running down on me.
A lot more sex.
Nobody believe that.
What's the point?
Don't change the truth.
You can't feel anything.
We're adults.
What?
A condom?
What do you mean?
You want to judge me for using condoms, too?
Yeah.
The first was reading books.
No, I'm not judging you for using condoms.
You are.
No, I'm saying that he's lying.
And I'm saying you're lying.
I don't use them now because I'm married and monogamous.
We don't know I'm lying.
But when I was single, yes, I used condoms.
I use condoms, bro.
Lame slip.
I mean, I got kids, obviously.
You're losing.
You're losing now.
But, Flip, I was 40 with no kids.
You're living life on the edge.
Everything raw.
Yeah.
A little Busta Rhymes to make everything smooth.
Y'all talk all this whole shit and y'all doing that with a condom on.
Like, shut up.
I got a question because I really need to know.
Do you ever get tired of being a bitch ass nigga?
Yo, bitch ass nigga.
Yo, bitch ass nigga.
Hey, look at this shit that gets. See, yo?
It's like what we just talked about.
Look at this shit that get ridiculed in our community.
Right.
It's condoms.
Fuckin' condoms.
Yo, what is that joke?
Fuckin' condoms.
Yo, come on.
Waste of time.
What the new condoms do?
I wouldn't know.
I'm married.
I haven't used a condom in. Oh, please.
I don't even know.
Joe said. No, they've teased me for decades for using condoms.
It's lame.
Especially when you talk about doing all that fucking.
It's like, come on.
Okay.
But he don't drink.
Last condom I used was one of them free New York City condoms, probably.
Oh, shit.
What?
Yeah, that shit.
The train station shit?
The shit from the train.
I got a map of it.
What?
Oh, shit.
Historia.
Talk to this sick fuck.
Yo, that was fitting.
Historia.
Hey.
My shit can't fit.
I mean, yeah.
Hey, you can see.
That's how you show off.
Look.
That's how you let people. Why do you keep dog whistling and say dick big?
This thing is crazy.
Why do you keep dog whistling so much?
He can't fit regular condoms.
This is your third time dog whistling about your penis size, bro.
Last time you said, yo, I had my big dick in the corner and I was sad.
I never said any of that.
Yo, Joe, didn't he say that when he. I said somebody was curled up like a baby with a big dick.
That's not saying anything about me.
You said you got your heart broke.
But you also did say that you had a shrimp all through high school and that motherfucker
tripled in size.
I didn't say that either.
Oh, yeah.
He did.
He said he got a big dick.
He don't remember his own past.
I said I had a shrimp that tripled in size.
You didn't got to say that one.
I thought it was. You said you had a growth spurt and your dick grew.
Shit went to a prawn.
Yes.
I said triple in size.
You didn't say triple.
No, you didn't say triple.
That shit went to a lobster tail.
But you just said you had a dick growth spurt.
Hold on.
What'd you say, Mona?
That shit was wild.
It wasn't a serious thing.
That's what he said.
It said that his penis and his height grew in the early 20s.
In his early 20s.
And I asked niggas.
He took steroids.
Send Mona a pic, girl.
I asked niggas.
On real speed.
Are you asking niggas about a pic?
Send my girl a pic.
I asked niggas.
I got a lot of friends.
I'm sitting in rooms like this at my house, right?
Okay.
And I asked niggas.
I said, oh, this shit, da, da, da.
We had a conversation.
And they was like, yeah.
Most of them in the room said their dicks grew.
After being in an L.
Would you do like a dick rating?
Like if a nigga sent you the hammer?
What you mean?
A dick rating.
It's a category on OnlyFans.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's it called?
It's a service they offer.
What's it called?
Dick rating.
So basically, he's asking.
Rating?
Rating.
Okay, I thought I heard you.
So you send your meet and then they give you a grade?
And they give you a little compliment or make a report card?
If you're into that.
But they got to give you a compliment if you pay for it, right?
No, they do not.
No, some people are in the humiliation, man.
We're not going to kink shame up here.
I'm at no judgment.
I didn't even consider that.
I just posted in my close friends a video of this guy.
He's like 350, probably like 6'2", with the dick the size of a belly button.
And you posted that?
Yes, I posted it.
I got to unfollow him.
Everybody was so mad at my close friends.
Was he proud about it?
I got to put you on my close friends.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
He totally looks at the camera because it's like a, it probably went viral from wherever
the guy's from.
He sound like he's from Atlanta or something.
And he's talking to the camera.
He's talking about his man behind him.
He's talking about how big his friends.
Dick is.
Oh, he got a big dick, man.
Y'all, he like.
What the fuck?
And he just pulls his pants down.
He has a belly button for a dick.
That's exciting.
So tiny.
Thanks.
That's what friends are for.
Just be happy you put that in your close friends.
Yes, the guys were so upset because you could not tell what it was at the beginning because
it's like breaking people talking.
Yeah.
I like to keep it exciting in my close friends.
I see.
Go to medical conditions.
Y'all all getting at it tonight.
Please don't.
No, I'm good.
And if you remove yourself, I'm blocking you because that's so rude.
Well, off of Diana Rossini, let's get to one of my favorite comedians out there.
Love her.
Nikki Glaser.
There we go.
Nikki Glaser was on Call Her Daddy and had this to say.
How lame it comes across.
I sometimes don't like to tell guys about this thing that I have where I'm like, you
know.
this is separate than the soulmate thing like i don't care if a guy has a sexual connection with
a girl and like he was to use protection and just have sex with her for a night like i don't i
literally wouldn't care if my husband did that i don't i don't know why i don't know why if he
were to like watch the wire the wire do crossword puzzles or like text up like send memes and stuff
i would be like what the fuck are you doing like that's our thing like emotional cheating would
hurt me but like physical i'm just like i kind of i just feel like i understand how sex is for men
most of the time outside of relationship it's just kind of transactional and it's just like
they just want a nut and it's not about like i want to spend my life with this woman so it
wouldn't feel i just i don't know i just wouldn't care as much so our barometer is no emotional
cheating yeah totally physically cheating is good but i understand emotional cheating like if
something were to happen where i would want them to tell me about it i would be obviously hurt but
i wouldn't
understand being drawn to someone else that you have a good connection with because it's like
it's hard to when you just find someone and it's monogamy you brain doesn't turn off he's still
gonna be attracted to other women he's still gonna like right be interested in other girls and have
good conversations and stuff so i could see something developing and i would be heartbroken
that it happened especially if it went on without me knowing about it but i would i would it i would
always ask anyone i was with to be like if you develop feelings for the violence tell me and
we'll deal with it like i just don't want to be blindsided but if you want to sex with someone
else also tell me about it because i want to like
see what she looks like and like ask you about it okay wait hold on so do you identify as like
poly or like open relationship girly like another girlfriend i don't want and i don't want to like
be in bed with you guys together okay not even in the same room no i don't want to like be and i
don't want to be in the chair in the corner like cuckold is like you know like watching i just want
to hear about it later okay you call this the hot husband fetish yes which is essentially when you
want your partner to have sexual experiences with other people outside of the relationship yeah so
when did this start for you nikki this started with my my boyfriend when i was 29 because i really
hadn't had a boyfriend before then he would tell me about um like i would always ask him about like
past hookups and girlfriends and how they got together like i was like the beginning like how
did you guys first know you liked each other like i love that like i cut it off but she goes on to
say that she liked listening to the stories so much that eventually he ran out of stories and
she encouraged him go make new stories go fuck new people wow round of applause
nikki glazer oh my god i think a lot of people feel this way and they just won't say it because
the ego or embarrassment of social norms that's that's what it is society yeah it's societal it's
like you'll be in a situation and you know your guy has this girl that he fucks with and you really
don't give a fuck but your aunt calls you and your girlfriend call you and when they see him
and it's like for the most part you respond and react to it and you're like oh my god i'm gonna
back off of what they say and how they carry it at the end of the day i've always felt like if
you're happy and you feel okay that's just what it is you don't have to like involve everybody
i don't think that sex is like a big deal i couldn't see myself leaving somebody for fucking
on me or getting a dick suck like that's not a reason to break up to me now if you did a bunch
of shit to hide that from me that disloyal shit like that that might make me leave you you know
but i just slipped and fell and ran into a dick suck not even slipped and fell and ran into a dick
suck if you the girl at your job your sister or whatever she sucked your dick are you
had to sell some drugs some ketamine it was a servant well if you fucked the other powerball
girl to gas like no but the bitch from the getty down the street no seriously and on top of the
first of all me and my ex his favorite porn star came to uh our area y'all going out it was
cherokee he was a cherokee fan no wasn't cherokee no it wasn't it was one with the butterfly on his
one from back in the day with the butterfly on the ass not roxy y'all know who i'm talking about
it's not ebony or something you know the answer you know the answer
either way she came either cherokee or roxy no cherokee or roxy so i might be right about
cherokee okay so body help but y'all y'all know the porn stars will go on those little strip club
tours or whatever the hood bookings i know i know exactly what you're talking about so when we went
because that was somebody that was a big deal then we went i didn't expect us to be like that
he threw the most money in there so she was like talking to us and i asked her like how much or
whatever and i offered that to him as a gift he was scary about it he didn't want to do it but
that i thought that was ill like if i would have paid i'm gonna pay her you fuck on your birthday
i just thought that was like i don't think that's a nice gift very thoughtful and then it's like
y'all play so much i'll never tell how y'all really feel about chicken
i just don't think your favorite porn star somebody you grew up jerking off you fuck them
like what's that how's that gonna bother our relationship on top of the fact that you never
told about this that's not better than cologne hell yeah but i think it would work the opposite
way i think he was like low-key mortified was he intimidated or oh he he seemed scared to me
but i mean he made it like a moral thing like i wouldn't do that to you like niggas my offer i
didn't talk to him he thought it was a test yeah it was a trick i'm not a tester yeah i'm not one
of them type of bitches huh i don't know any i don't know i think
i agree with her i think sex is sex i think it's levels this shit it is more hurtful for somebody
to be spending time with somebody investing in a business you know shit certain shit men give you
money they look at you a certain way didn't she say you have to use a condom no yeah she did she
did say that that you have to use i thought she said that but she don't i've had an ex tell me
that before like yo dog did you listen she said yo um she said yo i don't give a fuck if you fuck
because i know who you are she's like yo you be building a condom i don't give a fuck if you fuck
and these mental connections with girls she said that she's like yo you sit on the phone with a mad
law trying to fix their life and all that fuck them and come back home she knew your whole game
no i'm dead she had you dead to life and how did you respond to that i started laughing she said
yo no i'm saying did you fuck did you start fucking and being open was like yo you know
she's nuts yeah you know so he knows she'd say something like that wouldn't she say something
like that i couldn't hear the name i'm not he said yo this nigga this is a tabitha
right so oh wait she was i was joking i didn't even hear nothing so the nigga so she was like
yo dog if we in the mall i guess yo she had him in his place clearly
anyway right she said yo and i quote she was like yo dog if we in the mall and a girl come
up to me and be like yo you was just fucking with me yesterday she said i'm gonna just ask
her two questions like yo um did he eat you out that was forbidden and did and did he eat you out
did he wear a condom and she was like yo if if those two things check out bitch we got shopping
to do like you just got fucked excuse us a lot of women your girl do get your girl will get mad if
you eat somebody else out yo a lot of women feel like that again a lot of them might not say it
publicly because of society but a lot of people feel like that it's dudes out here too i know
niggas that be for letting their wife get busted by niggas this is a super mature frame of mind
are y'all that mature i'm not being honest no i'm kind of immature people are lying
possessive about what possessive or just regular like just nobody else can fuck my
i'm not saying the same thing i'm saying are you like on one extreme where you kind of down the
middle i think i'm on the extreme i don't let nobody fuck my woman no man yeah i don't think
that's i don't think that's extreme i think that's just regular you think you have a matter
huh a cook do you think you have a say in the matter a say in the matter no if she's gonna
fuck she's gonna fuck okay all right that's that's just that's a fact that's science but
it's not what she's saying what i said you're never gonna hear a man say no no
black man there's some dudes that's into that yeah but like a cuck like watching shit yes yeah
okay besides that that's what we're talking about i get what you say she said like she's doing an
act of generosity and love he's saying if a dude is doing this because he it's his twist he getting
off on it or he's doing his own experiences like no black man's telling you that oh go get more
experiences yeah i'm never doing that to go see the world to revisit that cuck topic for a minute
and not that i want to be the guy to do it so please revisit the cuck topic if you enjoy watching
you're a cuck no i thought that was a guy i think so i think you technically would still be a guy
i think he would still be a cuck i know it's it's back to the fucking uh uh uh double standard
shits but i think it would still be a cuck i think that yeah by the technical definition i think you
are still what if she straps up i'm about to say because if she strapped up you definitely would
be right yeah i would think ew why would you want to do that no i'm saying if you're if your girl
got strapped i guess i'm running out the house
holy shit where'd that come from you've been on amazon again a cuck has to be a male and female
thing oh it does yeah i knew that that's what it said yes but what if it's a girl with a strap
a strap come on bro we're not doing
he lost his mom i'm telling you he was a freaks you good pops i'm great it's a question but i
will say about nikki blazer that's wrong that's the old definition they said the modern usage
and fetishism is a consensual kink
a modern cuckold is fully aware of and derives sexual pleasure from their partner's activities
with other people this often involves elements of voyeurism or masochism okay so under this new
definition who in this room is not a cuck
i just don't get no cuck hear me
i think nikki blazer is being cuckish i won't call her a cuck yeah but if you
get off on hearing
your partner say
stories
about his adventures.
I think also,
and it made a full circle,
you can't tell Nikki Glaser
to hang with the homies.
She be in a room
full of niggas all the time
hearing how niggas talk,
hearing how niggas chop it up,
and she understands.
The comedian homies,
they in there
telling the truth.
And they live on the road.
What you get from her too
is she has an understanding
of men behind the scenes.
Okay, wait a minute.
I want to go back
because I don't believe
anybody in the room.
Why don't you believe him?
Because respectfully, of course,
I'm not really. Yeah.
But in the spirit
of the conversation,
if you're. I'll use B-Dot
because I don't want to use y'all.
If your girl was in front of you
doing shit with a girl
that you found
equally as attractive,
you think you would stay soft?
And I have that same question
for y'all.
Oh, I was still thinking
about dudes.
Yeah.
No, we were talking about
the new definition.
I said the new definition.
I misunderstood.
I don't know how I'll respond.
I'm not sure.
B-Dot,
I think I'll be turned on.
Every man here is turned on.
Mark, so. I'm guessing I would be,
but it's. I think y'all would be turned on
even if you was trying
to not be turned on.
Exactly.
But I'm not, like,
looking for that.
Like, flip?
What?
Yeah.
But the fact that you're
not looking for it,
I understand your answer.
Yeah, see, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm being honest.
I've had girls. I've dated women
where I did want that.
And when they, you know. So you better. So you better. You better cock
by the modern definition.
I'm saying right now,
I don't. My mindset is different.
I don't know. You changed.
I don't think you specified
right now.
Maybe I have to read
what I'm saying today.
No, here's what I'm saying.
I'm saying, I think
if it's just a. If it's somebody
I'm seeing casual,
to me, that's just
one step from a threesome.
I think for me,
the game was always
to get into a threesome.
Yeah.
But the idea of just
sitting there on the corner
watching somebody
shush kabob my wife
or watching some girl. Shush kabob.
You don't have to be
the corner.
You can lay in there
and put everybody. They always make it sound
like the watcher
is uncomfortable.
The nigga said no.
Light a cigar.
Yo, he said no.
Bro, stop talking. He said no.
He said no.
Yeah, I'm thinking. Yeah, if I'm just
knowing it,
they just fucking. I'm just watching. Niggas ain't into that, boy.
And I'm not getting into it.
I don't think. Yeah, I don't think I. I got to think about it.
I mean, of course
you're about to go for it.
You said no.
I would watch that.
What the fuck
is wrong with y'all?
Y'all are so fucking weird
with us.
This is the thing.
This is the thing.
This is the thing.
Walking off again.
Go ahead and walk off, brother.
Your girl
and another hot chick
fucking?
You're going to be like,
oh my God, no, I'm out?
No.
Hey, my girl
and another hot chick
just ordering coffee.
Right.
Surfing in the USA, Park.
My eyes.
I love it up here.
I'm just saying,
you can't force. Nigga, Mark said nah, bro.
Let him live.
Flip, you didn't answer yet.
I did.
What'd you say?
I didn't hear you.
If I see my wife
and another girl. Your wife
and Nyla Blackman
getting this.
Getting this.
Watch your fucking
hot tea wine.
Y'all didn't complain
to my family?
I would never do that.
Never.
Not up here.
Never.
Don't do that up here.
No, I watch.
All right.
Everyone's just scared
of the word cuck
and I understand.
Because cuck sounds like
it comes with a do.
Yeah.
It needs a rebrand.
I don't think I would like
looking at no shit.
I wouldn't like that.
Looking at what?
Of course,
a man and a woman.
My man and another bitch.
Okay.
Just watching it.
Tabitha would like that shit.
Tabitha might like it
but Damone would be pissed.
Yeah, I don't got. I ain't mature like that.
Oh my God.
All right,
we need a new word
for cuck then.
Yeah.
I see cuck just scares people.
Yeah, got a nasty
connotation on it too.
Yeah, it's true.
That's interesting
that the definition
changed though.
Yeah?
Yeah.
It's a different word.
Words do evolve.
Etymology.
There you go.
Y'all know these new age kids
are not bringing dates
to the prom?
Huh?
Because they're losers.
And they don't mind cucking.
What you mean they're not bringing. They're not. Wait, how?
Wait, wait, wait.
They're not going
to the prom, Dolo.
Nope, nope, nope.
You crazy.
Yes, they are.
These new kids.
New age kids.
Some, I'm not saying all.
A lot of them
going to the prom
with their homies.
I think that's. Yes.
A lot of these niggas
are going to the prom
with their crew.
Dude crew.
They're renting the vehicle
and all of them
are getting fried.
And going to have
like a guy night.
Yes.
I think that a lot of people
are even not just
this new age of kids
but even probably shit
my generation
are just definitely
scared of commitment now
because the internet exists
and there's mad options
out there.
So no, I'm not going
to take this one girl
to the prom
when there's 200 girls
at the prom.
No, no, that's. They don't even go
to your school.
No, dog.
These little niggas
be fucking early.
Back in the day
it was, yo,
I can't wait to go to prom
because that might be
my first time hitting it.
They done fucked
Sharon 77 times.
The whole school
fucked these girls already.
They different.
Yo, fuck Aaron.
How old is my name Sharon?
Nobody's name Sharon.
You're Sharon 65.
Back in his days.
Bro, you think I'm joking?
Like these little. Everybody fuck Dolores.
My name was. I'm not. I got mad people
in my life
that are in education.
Principals,
guidance counselors,
teachers.
These little kids
are doing sexual shit
that we could not fathom
at their ages.
You had the teachers
be fucking too.
You had to call the house
and ask permission
to take her
to the prom
and all that stuff.
And these little kids
be having. You think I'm joking,
my nigga.
No, you right.
I'm talking about
12, 13, 14 years old.
These little kids
is having threesomes
and orgies and all that shit.
We wasn't doing that.
But even in the situation,
even in the scenario
you're describing,
why can't you. All right,
niggas been fucking
all year long,
everybody in school.
Now, prom time,
why you can't pick a girl
you didn't fuck yet
and bring her to the prom?
Because if you wanted them. Because everybody else
fucked a girl.
If you wanted them niggas,
Joe Pop.
I think it's what
Park said about
Park's pop.
It's the commitment.
Back in the day,
your girlfriend
was your prom date.
I don't know,
when I was a kid,
people were pregnant
in sixth and seventh grade.
So the whole thing
about people not. People having sex younger,
we were more teen moms
than they are now.
So that doesn't make sense
to me, but. Yo, that was. There was a girl
that might have been
pregnant as a teen.
There were a couple girls
that got pregnant
in high school.
I'm talking about
the entire school
is avidly having sex.
People was fucking
back in high school.
I totally understand
what you're saying.
I'm older than y'all.
I totally understand
what you're saying,
but I'm just telling you that
because when I was
in middle school,
people had kids.
Not one or two.
It was a couple bitches
that had kids,
which in having kids,
having sex at age,
you have kids
because you don't know
what the fuck you're doing.
You don't know
how to protect yourself
and you don't tell nobody.
So you end up
having to fucking. Half of my friends
either had kids
at 14 or 40.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And if you look
at the numbers now,
teen pregnancy is down.
But nowadays. And fucking is down
in that age group.
Yeah, so. That's a big part of it.
And it's a connection.
And drinking.
Yo.
I'm not talking
about high school.
We went outside
and played till we smelled.
We crossed town.
Smelled like the street.
These motherfuckers
don't even leave to connect.
It's just different now.
Everybody is. I was still scared of pussy
when I went to prom.
Yes.
Like, dog,
niggas wasn't just
out here king-ding-a-ling
again when they was younger.
Yeah, I was looking
for lime green hush puppies.
No, it was some niggas. What?
I was just looking
for some. No, I don't buy that.
Y'all went to your prom?
No, I killed my cream suit.
Don't blame me.
I'll pull up the picture.
You did not have on a cream suit
with no lime green hush puppies.
And I absolutely killed
that prom.
Marist prom, nigga.
Ask about me.
Who?
That might have been. You was a prom king, Joe?
Well, I was a dropout by then.
That was some Spanish jerseys.
Nah, I'm telling you.
I killed the Marist.
Now I'm going to find
my Marist prom pictures
with the lime green hush puppies
in the cream suit.
Horrible.
What you wore-ish?
Yeah, nigga, now what?
What you had on?
What you wore?
What you had on?
My first prom I went to?
Yes.
I had lizards on.
I didn't have no fucking
hush puppies on, my nigga.
Well, you knew boosters.
No, I was in. I didn't.
You had more money than me at 16.
My cousin just sent me
a picture, too,
that was at my iHouse.
I'll show you right now, nigga.
Show us.
Some fly shit, too.
Show us, nigga.
I believe you had
some glow up here, bro.
All right, nigga, yeah.
Y'all all went to the prom?
I didn't go to my prom.
Me neither.
I went to three proms.
I went to other proms.
Why didn't y'all go to yours?
That shit was. I got kicked out of school.
I got kicked out, too.
Same.
Nobody cared at my school.
Well, I left.
Just rejoicing loserism.
Nah, I'm not.
That shit was cool
that you got kicked out of school.
Ooh, I got kicked out, too.
No, I graduated high school,
but from getting in trouble,
I wasn't allowed
to go to the prom.
Yeah, that shit was corny
in our school.
We was looking more forward
to going to Six Flags
the next day
on them charter buses
than going to the actual prom.
That senior trip was shit.
Oh, they was getting
fucked on them buses, too.
I skipped the senior trip.
The finger popping on the truck.
Oh, yeah.
I wasn't allowed to go there.
But I did go to prom.
I went to prom, too.
It was a good time.
I got lit.
It was fun.
How many proms you went to, Mark?
Just one.
Just mine.
Fucking loser.
You went to three proms?
I went with my girlfriend.
Flip went to three proms, nigga.
Yeah.
Which ones?
I went to. How old were you, too?
I was from 17.
I went to. What was the number one school?
Stuyvesant.
I went to Stuyvesant's farm
because my mom. My mom worked in the mayor's office.
It's a big school.
So I went to her daughter's.
She pulled some strings.
To go to a prom?
To go to the prom.
I slapped the shit out of you, Nick.
He's a good boy.
I understand.
I understand.
You lost me.
I went to Stuyvesant.
My mother was on the board of ed,
so you went to the Stuyvesant prom?
She went with somebody's daughter.
No, she wasn't on the board of ed,
but my mom. Explain it.
My mom worked for the mayor's office.
Her boss' daughter went to the school.
At a range.
I went to Mary Roach,
but I got kicked out.
It was like a favor.
I went to the prom.
It wasn't a favor.
I meant you was doing a favor.
I just went to the prom.
Bless his heart.
I went to the prom.
You talk about Mary Burcham
like it's Harvard, nigga.
I know what Mary Burcham is now.
Me too.
Because of him.
Me too.
I promise.
I went to Van Buren.
Van Buren.
Are you just. The day we were school together?
And then I went to, I think,
Prospect Heights,
if I'm not mistaken.
If I'm not mistaken.
Three boroughs?
No, I went to 11 schools in my life.
God damn.
I'm not proud of that shit.
I used to be proud.
that shit up here
that shit is wack
ever since I got into
that whole sphere
of your world
like reading and stuff
shit is trash
books
yo fuck you
tricky words
fuck you
fuck you yo
that shit is wack
11 school shit
I don't want
11 school is crazy
I went to one school
nigga I need that shit
we on the inside
alright
nah that's what I'm saying
so
chick I went to my
fucking that marriage prom
which you was trying
to fuck me that whole year
I was so scared of pussy
she just knew
what was going to happen
on prom
I was still scared of pussy
she still want to fuck you
after the lime green hushes
I slept in lime green hushes
lime green hush puppies
the biggest one of the year
might have been hard
it was 96
oh yeah
that's ghost face
it's 96
yeah you had it
hush puppies were sold out
all over Jersey City
I'm trying to fucking
have a fly color on
anyway
let that track
her dad told me
make sure you have
oh she'll be back buddy
trust me
I'm dropping it right to you
I ain't got no money
for no hotel
none of that shit
what you got
these kids today
this nigga's going
to prom
in a McLaren
McLaren
oh shit
these niggas
these niggas be having
Rolls Royces
and Cullinans
and all that shit
they probably be looking
like weddings
he driving
he driving
he driving
be careful y'all
these niggas be having
Rolls Royces
they be having all of that
so again I'm hanging out
with my niggas
I could care less about
Keisha that
I could see tomorrow
and he said
he ain't going to prom
with no aim
right
I'm bugging
he ain't going to prom
with nobody
wait you going to prom
in a McLaren Solo
yeah
that makes sense
he's not leaving
the prom solo
that's true
that's true
that's true
that's the catch
nigga I'm stepping out
oh
okay
I see it
I get it
I see the vision
I see the vision
I know what you're doing
fuck you talking about
he doing the old school shit
take whoever the fuck
you got over to the McLaren
he got up
started using the lip brush
he taking somebody else's date
and the D1 scholarship
nigga I'm getting
double team
want to go home
it's going to be hard
to put the threesome
in the McLaren
she's with me
listen all that shit
sounds good
I'm going to sit on the lap
you never seen him lap up
I told y'all
I was going to think
about taking him
to the Knick game
if it's
if it's Tourette's
was acting right
yeah
I took him
whoo
there was no
there was no Tourette's
he was cool
good
you introduced him
to JT and him
who
Jason Tatum and him
no
but JT said what up
and I said get the fuck out
from my seat
but when I looked over
it was halftime
did he bring the shoes
I looked over
on his phone
I'm going to hold you down
I'm going to hold you down
I ain't going to
I looked over on that phone
boy he was writing a book
to somebody
it was
it was a
it was a long book
so
no you wasn't
he's at the game
at the game
so you know I'm petty
that little nigga
nah I know you wasn't
so you know I'm petty
I wouldn't
I wouldn't have tried
to read the text
before that
some poor innocent lady
saying
oh I just know
when you go to college
you're going to be
fucking everybody
not me baby
no
is that our fault
yo the book
when I tell y'all
our fault
when I tell y'all
the bullshit
that he wrote back
it's our fault
it's our fault
cause of that bullshit
you pulled at the end
of the Patreon
nah
my bad
you set him up man
you the apple in my eye girl
never
yo he wrote some
bullshit back
dope shit or bullshit
no shit did I
I told him erase that
oh you have to fix
are you
you have to fix it
I said
yeah
we were just popping
yeah yeah
we were just popping
that's what you say
we put it together
that shit he wrote
but wait was he writing it
to cater to her feelings
or was it
that's what he thought
he was doing
but it was some
bullshit
now I'm going to spill it
just cause it's funny
okay okay
I'm going to just
give you the first
he's going to get
another fucking text
no I'm just
she don't listen to shit
it's the main
just for the first
two sentences
she listen to the last one
so she said
yo
I just know
when you go to college
you're going to be
fucking everybody
this nigga said
not everybody
he said
basically
he said
he said
yo
you know
I go to college
it's nothing but
white girls up there
I don't be
fucking white girls
I don't be
I said yo
erase that
that ain't saying
what you're trying
to say Victor
word
holy
oh that is hilarious
wow
you know it's like
90% white
but that's 10%
right
fuck
oh man
that is hilarious
what else we got
that's important
we got some super
important news
yes
oh let's do it
Chris Brown and Usher
announced that they
going on tour
well we knew that
because Ice told us
he told us off air
though
we didn't announce it
so shout out to Ice
for being the head of the story
I'll be there
I think that's going to
break all box office
tour records
that's going to be like
big
but can you
can you do more
than what he already did
in numbers
who
Chris
yeah
he sold out
he sold out
stadiums
what more could you do
they was going to charge more
you can add shows
you can add more
you can add shows
and you can add seats
and Chris
there's a show show
like Chris
Chris is dancing
it's going to generate
more revenue
you can add three or four shows
and then the bump up
is going to be
in the ticket prices
that meet and greet
is going to be
more expensive
it's going to be
like the Beyonce prices
yeah
it's going to be
a great show though
oh yeah
absolutely
I think it's going
come on rap for your cousin
nigga say it
I think it's going to show
I think it's going to show
uh oh
uh oh
keep saying
keep talking
it's going to show
it's going to show
what's going to show
what do you mean
I think he's going to show
Usher up on a different level
oh
what do you mean
show him what
do you think that
he will intend to do that
no
it'll just happen
I think it's going to be organic
I think it's going to be organic
either that
if it cross your mind
it cross his
or he's going to have to
dumb down the show
who do you think goes first
he can't dumb down the show
that's not
they're going to do
the stupid back and forth
that I
that I normally hate
I don't know if I hate it
in this instance
because it's Chris Brown
and Usher
I don't know
he's going to have to dumb it down
that's what I'm saying
he's not going to dumb it down
I think what you're going to see
I mean
I think that
if they on tour together
and there's a brotherhood there
whether it's forced
real
whatever
Chris Brown can't be
the full
Chris Brown
one man show
Chris Brown
I agree
he just can't be
but also
don't underestimate
what Usher do to a crowd
even though he's not
in the same
not doing that
shape
I'm talking about
his performance
no no
I know what you're saying
I'm just saying
some of them Usher songs
go in a way
that just
I
I think it's going to look
way more even
than I think
some people think it is
it's also cool
if Chris Brown
Kendrick Scissor's thing
it's going to be like
back and forth
it's also cool
if Chris Brown
is doing flips
and hanging from the suspension
and then Usher
kind of casually strolls out
and does an absolute
smash banger
like it's fine
you don't have to
that's the only place
where
I'm a little off
what
Ish is saying
even if
Ish is correct
I think Usher's records
are crazy
that's what I'm saying
even if Chris do that
and everybody
agrees
Usher records
is kind of
just hard
yeah
I know
I'm not
that's also going to
make it hard
for the
Scissor Kendrick
back and forth
to me too
so you'd rather
have your own
individual sets
I hate
I hate back and forths
they should do
Usher and Chris
I hated it
at Scissor Kendrick
I hated it
at New Edition
every time I've seen
a back and forth
see I didn't hate
New Edition
I didn't hate
New Edition
New Edition was the sound
that made it fucked up
if it sounded right
I think that would have
been fire
agreed
well yeah
maybe if the sound
was right
for me Kendrick Scissor
was a problem
because
genres
yeah the genres
are so different
and I'm not
so into all of
Scissor's music
I came for Kendrick
so it was kind of
like there were
large lows
where I was like
alright
but if you're
an Usher fan
you're probably
a Chris Brown fan too
yes
that's why I think
the back and forth
works for them
I think it's going
to be dope
I'm a fan of both
Kendrick and Scissor
huge fan of both
I mix them up
I'm one mood
over here
and now you're
taking me out
of that mood
put me over here
and now I'm going
back
I just went to
the Breezy Bowl
because that nigga
tore a lot
because he just
yeah
but it's like
the way he got
he get the room
full of bitches
like I just
couldn't imagine
separating that
like that
I just think
it makes more sense
to let it run
his show is so good
then he got the nerve
to get up and fly
over top of you
Peter Pan
now I went to
Usher in Vegas
Hose was there
they got dressed too
they got dressed
I've been to
Chris Brown
arena shit
they were there
all of them
were there
undressed
and it was raining
when I went there
the Hose did not care
so this is going to be
a good mix
of the younger
and the older
women coming together
dressed and undressed
dressed and undressed
pray for rain
and it's going to be
Cherry's going to be
sold out
all stadiums right
Cherry's sold out
all stadiums
all stadiums
so that's the
that's the little thing
with the Usher show
it was more intimate
so they
they had that shit on
yeah
when you outside
in the stadium
you could get your hoe on
yeah
because they had their hoe on
in the Barclays when I went
you could get your hoe on
you know what I'm saying
that's what I'm in the Barclays
so it's a little different
when you in Vegas
it's you know
quaint
you was in there
with your little
you know what I'm saying
your sequins on
so you wouldn't wear that
he had his lime greens on
no no no
it looked nice
I'm saying you wouldn't wear that
to an outside show
is what I'm saying
like
just the attire
is going to be different
than what you would wear outside
when you go outside
nigga you could be out there
with
you know what I mean
girls is coming to get
I'm glad Usher's there
because I'm the biggest
Chris Brown fan in the world
but his show was too long
like it was too many slaps
I don't even think this song
I ain't want to say nothing
he did three and a half hours
my God
solo
of slaps
solo
niggas was
all records
he might have left records off
by the end
my feet was hurting
I was mad at niggas
in front of me
and behind me
had to piss
but couldn't go to the bathroom
line as long
hungry again
even though I ate
like a mess
niggas was leaving
on
in
Instagram like yo there's some bullshit I'm leaving he just played my shit and you can hear
the background like yo it's 12 o'clock and I gotta go to work in the morning this is some
bullshit and you can hear slaps coming on as they walk into the car I went to my car and just heard
the slap yeah it's probably gonna be like a four hour set then it has to be at least no we ain't
gonna do that I'm not sitting through that 90 90 I'm old 90 90 too long for me yes 90 90 60 he did
three and a half with just him bro yesterday I want to see three three hours when you when you
when I went to 11 11 because I ain't go to the breezy but we went to 11 11 the nigga was doing
the shit where he was just spinning a wheel and wherever the wheel lands that's how many songs
that nigga had that he didn't play he would just spin a wheel wherever the song land and if I had
to give you a word of advice which I could never that's Joe Budden but that's never stopped me
before you're back up dancing
are cool they cool yeah they're nice when y'all get to skating around that should be looking smooth
uh-huh but the breezy one yeah he might yeah the ball hand one that's my baby
that's the one what that's all that's everybody that's that's the one she's nice she keep a beat
yeah oh she gotta find one of them fam get a fat chick no she got about he got three or four of
them let it burn he got three or four of us you do have a
one he has his version of the boy oh hold up now we play I remember that girl we were looking at
up there it was like all right I'll shoot he got one where if you don't think for a second you
think he's fucking her yeah the dancer did the twerker yeah he got one he got one now in the
verses I think she loses to the ball headed girl no but Chris got three of them he don't just got
the ball head one the ball head one he got two slimmer ones that's fire I'll be there for you
maybe we got to go to that show Chris Brown we gotta make sure that he ain't take somebody's
girlfriend and make it out well stage like how he did do is that what he did remember you I don't
think he did that you ain't get the arms sweet prices yeah right sweet prices did not come back
in yet but it's going to be available it's in sweet prices are not in but please I got a call
that said in the event the sweet don't work out I'm guaranteed two tickets
we know you like the European girls I think that gun dumb tickets gonna be harder for people to get
shot then I think they know no niggas got them already no a lot of people got tickets your money
you coming if we get the sweet you coming a lot of people sweet for what for the jay-z jay-z the
general pop tickets mm-hmm they're not invited is the quitter this
nigga get this we gonna let us come yeah we in there we in there y'all being hopeful no
no he may he say you removing some niggas off a list no that's it come six grand a pop yeah
six grand a pop six grand to be with y'all huh it's six grand a pop each for us to be in the
box I'd rather just pay my own tickets beat out stairs that's it I'm gonna come with some box you
don't you are you trying to this week that's great six grand I'm not paying six grand are you
but you going in there boy it's my man I'm in there I know too much I mean he may pull a move
and kick me out get this nigga out of here then I'm just gonna come up here and turn up okay what
is this yeah Tuesday I'm wild I might take a camera - they could flip wild out again I'm going live
ushering Chris Brown I'm near I'm gonna talk to dig a six grand popper is your mom if I pay 125 K
for a sweet you get to great I shouldn't be charging people no but not niggas up here no
you should have the niggas up here you just want why you charge the niggas outside we would do the
same for you charge burn charge for her yeah what else do they need us what else do they need us oh
shit wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute oh just
for the record there no dates been announced for Chris Brown in Russia yet so okay probably between
to be that issues Chris's cousin I think I'm waiting for dates to come from the web and he
don't want to go talk to his cousin I eat like that probably waiting on the way you want to
talk this guy you're shitting me I love now
Oh
actually that's the other thing I know it's a good idea for people to release music around
the time that tours are announced I know Chris Brown is going to release some music
this is brain yeah good I just want I love us I wanted to be careful
you with that little light skin boy if you want now because he's gonna try and drop something to
end you while the tour is happening thanks see before the tour starts he's just coming on some
light spring right now this boy ain't to be played with it yeah you know how we ride too bad
so maybe that means
you might just get a baby
let's stay in the house I'm a drink from your fountain break it down for me now break it down for me
foreign
I should be careful yo who was it at versus Joe excuse me who wasn't that versus
yeah that's tough I think is it really tough it's tough man Chris got a lot of records man I take us
you take usher over breezy I take us here as well yeah wait it's 20 21 40 I would take it the problem
is 20 so wait wait wait wait wait if so but that doesn't make sense if you said if it goes 40 you
got breezy breezy winning in the long haul he has more songs he has more songs but if you take the
two normal force a normal uh format 20 verse 20. what are you putting against burns uh that's a
few songs I think I should got that would go against no Chris Brown Chris Brown oh I'm sorry
uh you say residuals I didn't say anything oh he might have said residuals oh that's what you would
do hmm oh you lose bad residuals what would you what would go against burn or burn let it burn I'm
sorry that's what's throwing me off okay for me I think there's five Usher records that Chris will
have to concede to which is burn one of them yeah let it burn is one of them for sure you got it bad
that's probably one of them you got it bad as one nice and slow oh yes you make me wanna or do you
think that's no that's beautiful okay confessions you remind me oh yeah I think that's beautiful
Usher's got some big you don't have to call you don't have to call yeah that's just a tough for
anybody Usher's not seeing Chris Brown no versus wait uh I disagree throwback is a tough one too
to be I gotta see something I would like to see that on the tour though like don't have that kind
of back and forth battle like that versus kind of just playful with it that would be dope I think
yeah I love Chris brother he Usher's big records are too big that's what I'm saying yeah
but I think the distance has to go to Chris yeah but I think the distance is more than 20. that's
what I'm saying normal versus when you're going 20 I think Usher's a tough out if it went 30 I
think Chris I think Chris could be Usher 11 9. no I don't see it I think he could respectfully sorry
I don't see it so Chris Chris got granted remember we talking about I think Chris Brown has a deeper
discography definitely of his own and I think his feature writer discography is I think that
packs us out I do yeah come on it's gonna take oh oh no he's right so so so he's right he's right he's right
so so so so Chris got run it yo say goodbye with you forever kiss I should get the 12 songs he's
gonna get drowned look at me now loyal new flame no guidance go crazy hmm you're gonna drown him
12 I know Usher got nice and slow you remind me you got a bad yeah burn confessions my boo
love in the club oh my god see all that is beatable to me yeah yeah yeah Usher got three or four songs
that are not beatable the rest of that can be beat yeah I don't know man you got tough he don't
have you got confessions part two being beatable Joe no uh yeah I don't I don't have confessions
being beatable really keep
going though i sure has 16 top 40 top 10 records alone but listen so this is top top 10 and out of
those top 10 songs some of those songs are beatable i think that's true i think some of them are you
remind me is beatable my way is beatable my boo is beatable yes seduction is beatable but just
don't mean they're gonna get beat some of them gonna win moving mountains is beatable
good kisser is beatable yes like he got mad beatable records got 700 songs to play with
to beat you but they're not and we're near as big records no box stand on it big records win
verses i'm sorry like all right so real quick i just named 16 my boo he's got 16 top 10 hits
my boo verse back to sleep well who gets it oh my boo my boo
my boo
i love chris brown but you're speaking as super super hardcore chris brown
put you back to sleep might not beat it he got something in his catalog that can beat it
give us another one joe off the head yo
yo is a good one what are we talking about yeah yeah yo is the rl for my boo yo oh oh a million times
over my boo nice and slow you think nice and slow to yell that's blues i'm gonna say nice and slow
nice and slow is beating yo nice and slow is beating yo nice and slow is beating yo nice and
slow beat whatever they call me us yo my boo my boo should not be in the same sentences uh excuse
me yo but they're not they're not they won't be able to see you
i'm talking about my boo against uh what did we just say it was the chris brown song
yo back to sleep no back to sleep back to sleep that's what i'm saying and then um we had like
we had the other joint against that and i'm saying he wins that one too i got chris brown in the
distance i don't think i don't think we'll ever see this i don't think i might say on the tour
a little back to the flashes of it yo and i'll tell you one thing sometimes we don't need to
see it when we go to the show and come back word we'll have a clear understanding yeah but that's
gonna be 30 or 40 it's three hours of song what would you put against what would you put against
usher's yeah that's another yeah it's a tough fucking out it is yeah it's a tough out but he
got songs that could beat it yo you think it's gonna be yeah he got songs yeah it's just a
monster i think yeah it's beatable i think y'all are the world's biggest chris brown fans yeah
as somebody who i'm a bigger usher fan than chris brown fan but like this song's that chris brown
got that that knock because you fuck with chris brown and because they're great songs but usher
got records that are just so big i don't think i think he don't got 20 of them bro that's he has a
lot of them yes let's say he got top 10 let's say he got 12 that's why you need to win the versus
so beat out i'm sure got like 10 respectfully but beat out a lot that's great yeah what category
what category of the hits and bangers would you put us in chris that's a good question now because
i had to oppose that question like the difference between hits and a banger so which one would you
put i think like back to sleep is like a banger that's not a hit okay yeah i'm just saying the
hits win versus that's all i'm saying yeah i'm just saying the hits win versus that's all i'm saying
yeah bangers win rounds though nigga got a lot all right so if you do yeah and chris brown does
no guidance who wins i know yeah yeah yeah all right never mind kiss kiss i'm out he got songs
i don't know what conversation to have with y'all i don't know what talk i'm having i think you a
big chris brown fan not at all not at all i ain't that big of a chris brown bro i just like i just
like music at some point yeah yeah it was huge a monster fucking record it was huge
it still gets fucking played in sinks and movies and all that shit so still but he got a lot he got
too many songs i don't see it okay yeah chris got the bangers not winning again like i think i think
yeah and kiss kiss is a fight okay you might get tight y'all i don't think it's a crazy tape but i
think it's wrong y'all oh no y'all living in that yeah i think it's the opposite i think chris
i don't fuck with kiss kiss i don't fuck with kiss kiss yo dog
that song was a monster song yeah yeah i'm not saying that i'm saying i think it's a fight
depending on who you asking you was outside for a year my last question my last question to y'all
and i promise i'm done uh uh can you handle it versus take you down take you take you down take
you down for sure i gotta hear yeah let me hear it take you down that's a bang i can't think what's
can you handle it if i go down
ah this is a fire right this is that shit
i'm not saying chris brown ain't dope y'all this is a banger y'all confused
i don't know what verses look like yeah exactly
so now you don't play this i didn't want him hit the note this ain't coming on no verses this is
not no no no i'm just asking put this up against them but yeah oh my god it's a great song instead
of doing that dude you got a bad verse to take this right here make a baby off this record
all right that little boy girl goes crazy on this song
this is
you think you're gonna make a baby off this record you got a bad beat this
you think you're gonna make a baby off this record you got a bad beat this i'm still mad y'all niggas told
i'm still mad y'all niggas told
i'm still mad y'all niggas told me my boo is playing my boo real quick
me my boo is playing my boo real quick
me my boo is playing my boo real quick now play you got a bad verse i know what
now play you got a bad verse i know what
now play you got a bad verse i know what my boo there's always that one but my boo
my boo there's always that one but my boo
my boo there's always that one but my boo was fired i'm sorry
was fired i'm sorry
was fired i'm sorry stop beating that's just annoying wreck it down
wreck it down
wreck it down it's a big record
it's a big record
it's a big record too much
too much
too much everyone to see oh baby
everyone to see oh baby
everyone to see oh baby yeah you gotta rock and wait in this one
yeah you gotta rock and wait in this one
yeah you gotta rock and wait in this one come on
come on
come on i don't know about us come on
i don't know about us come on
i don't know about us come on that ain't even a record this
that ain't even a record this
that ain't even a record this what did he put what was putting it
what did he put what was putting it
what did he put what was putting it up against
up against
up against yo yo where's my phone no we
yo yo where's my phone no we
yo yo where's my phone no we didn't put it against joe that's not
didn't put it against joe that's not
didn't put it against joe that's not what he's talking about
what he's talking about
what he's talking about he did a switch
he did a switch
he did a switch we didn't sign up against yo at first we
we didn't sign up against yo at first we
we didn't sign up against yo at first we put it up
put it up
put it up that way it was back to sleep it was
that way it was back to sleep it was
that way it was back to sleep it was back to sleep joe buggy
back to sleep it was back to sleep joe buggy
back to sleep it was back to sleep joe buggy chris brown
chris brown
chris brown yeah he's trying to set us up
yeah he's trying to set us up
yeah he's trying to set us up yo yeah my sorato's just up
yo yeah my sorato's just up
yo yeah my sorato's just up uh-oh y'all lucky parks there your
uh-oh y'all lucky parks there your
uh-oh y'all lucky parks there your sorato's got it grab your phone
sorato's got it grab your phone
sorato's got it grab your phone you wanna be uh i'll grab my phone we
you wanna be uh i'll grab my phone we
you wanna be uh i'll grab my phone we can play these records back to back all
can play these records back to back all
can play these records back to back all you want
you want
you want oh
yo do me a favor don't never say my boo
yo do me a favor don't never say my boo
yo do me a favor don't never say my boo again don't say nothing about my boo
again don't say nothing about my boo
again don't say nothing about my boo again
you think my movie
you think my movie
you think my movie i don't think so you gotta be a chris
i don't think so you gotta be a chris
i don't think so you gotta be a chris brown fan to love this right that's what
brown fan to love this right that's what
brown fan to love this right that's what i'm saying
great record it's a great record it ain't
great record it's a great record it ain't
great record it's a great record it ain't beating my boo you had a recent bias it
beating my boo you had a recent bias it
beating my boo you had a recent bias it sounds like it sounds like y'all just
sounds like it sounds like it sounds like y'all just seen a versus yeah i've seen a
seen a versus yeah i've seen a
seen a versus yeah i've seen a versus and it don't go like that because if
versus and it don't go like that because if
versus and it don't go like that because if that was the case the biggest record
that was the case the biggest record
that was the case the biggest record wins
wins
wins wipe the floor with bobby brown and
wipe the floor with bobby brown and
wipe the floor with bobby brown and every one of his big records it don't
every one of his big records it don't
every one of his big records it don't just go big record
just go big record
just go big record i agree they don't always go just like
i agree they don't always go just like
whatever record
charted higher
but that
you're also comparing
a situation where
performance matters
I was about to say
but you look at
I'm sure he can still perform
exactly
yeah but he can't
I'm trying to say that
how many take records
beat Tyrese Big Records
he can't do
he can't outperform
Chris Brown
so it's like
if y'all
the verse is true
it's true about
the bigger songs
but the fact that
because he ain't flipping
I'm about to
I'm about to fucking
sing his ass off
and he is flipping
yeah word
and he's flipping
and he's skating
and he's tripping
and he's flipping
word
the nigga 8 foot
and he can dance
his ass off
I don't give a fuck
Usher flipped and skates
but Chris Brown
did the flip
and landed on
on the one
what was the fucking
we all know the flip
Usher flipped and landed on
and Usher
and Usher
had Chris Brown on stage
yeah but Usher
dated Chili nigga
fuck out of here
you only say that now
Usher dated
Magga
Magga Chili
exactly
he knew
point
point to Chris
he didn't help before that
you know Chris
dated some
Magga bitches
do all them little
Spanish bitches
you can't even get
in the section
Chris still doing
the bag test
they come by the
truck load
he be all the way
in the back of the line
nigga like
who the fuck is that
Chris don't have
the bag test
to get in the section
with him
we gonna see
Rick Ross come out
for you
Chris don't want
nothing darker
than him in the section
anytime he at the club
in London
he get to pull his pants
like this bitch
darker than my calf
get her out of here
blackie
no no
bitch be caramel
light caramel
get that black ass
out of here
alright we're moving
right along
we're moving right
along
do we have anything
else that needs
our attention
I don't think
anything ever
needs our attention
we definitely
that shit needs
our attention
I think we did it
nigga Pox is lit
are you good Pox
let me just check
my list
Friday Pox is different
let me check my list
it's not Friday Pox
it's not his boss
it's that fucking
Moissanite chain
that nigga got on
it's fucking with him
you shitting on the
other
I'm not shitting on him bro
you got your teeth
white and you up
to something Pox
I'm chilling
I got the teeth
get out of his mouth
get out of his mouth
I don't give a fuck.
He smokes cigarette.
He got his teeth white.
Get out his dental shit, bro.
His teeth got white.
Chill out.
Chill out.
You shaking yellow and white like that?
Stop.
Before we end, I do have, and now I'm finding Chris Brown's song there with two of you motherfuckers
that made me mad.
Yeah, stop playing with that.
Nigga, chill and say it.
I do have it.
He tried to put yo against my boo.
He gonna burn.
I hated my boo.
I hated my boo when it was out.
Me too.
No way.
I hated my boo as it was soaring.
Me too.
I hate that song.
When it came out, you hated it?
Nigga, I was gay when that song came out.
I thought she was pulling a move when that song came out.
I hated my boo, but I loved the video, but I hated the song always.
Wasn't it so popular?
I don't know.
I just hated it.
I never liked it.
I never liked that song.
It got too hot.
I'm a way bigger Chris Brown fan than Usher.
How many songs is that?
I'm a way bigger Usher fan.
How many songs?
I didn't really fuck with Usher until moving out.
How many songs that became so popular that it ended up being hated?
A lot of songs like that.
I hate the Tim song, "Wait For You."
Me and you?
I can't hate that.
How could you hate that?
I can't hate that.
It's too popular.
I love that song.
I know what you're talking about, but I can't hate that.
I know what you're talking about now.
When a song gets too hot, it's like, "All right.
Here we go again."
"Wait For You."
Future did it.
"If You Call You."
It's great.
He hates it too.
No, I like that song.
Oh, okay.
When they get overplayed and get too crazy, you do get corny, but some of them, it's just
like, it never dies.
Like, "Hit me, baby, one more time."
That's a classic.
It's killing me.
It's killing me.
Can't die.
I'm a skin dance.
I still believe.
Still believe.
See?
It wins.
You see what I'm saying?
At some point, the played out song becomes a classic song, and you can't deny it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's go, Paul.
But some shit, you just hate the first time you hear it.
"My Boo."
For sure.
It's too cheesy a little bit.
I hated "My Boo" from day one.
It's a little schmaltzy, but I like it.
And I've never heard nobody say that but him.
People always disabuse me about that.
"My Boo" is the best song.
I hated that shit.
Go ahead, Joe.
What?
"My Boo."
Yeah, I hated "My Boo."
I absolutely hated that.
You're the only motherfucker I ever heard say that other than me.
We have weird shit in common.
Usher brings out Jadakiss, and they could do. And he better not play "You Make Me Wanna" neither.
Chris Brown gonna eat that shit right up, too.
He is.
He better not play nothing that ain't his best.
This is best.
You don't fuck with "You Make Me Wanna"?
"You Make Me Wanna"?
Stop it, Joe.
I love that song.
Don't stop it.
You just talking, Joe.
I love that song.
You're just talking.
It's beatable.
I love that song, too.
It's beatable.
"You Make Me Wanna"?
That song is very beatable.
You make me wanna leave the one I'm with.
Yes, that one.
That one.
That one.
That one.
I was outside when that shit was like my best friend.
So he's telling me, "The one I used to wanna talk to when me and my girl was having problems.
He used to say it'll be okay.
Suggest little nice things I should do.
Go home at night and lay my head down.
All I wanna think about is you."
See, and that right there is why Usher would lose the verses.
Usher got too much. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
Hey!
He used to say it would be OK to just little nice things
I should do.
This is funny!
When I go home at night and lay my head down,
all I want to think about is you.
See, and that right there is why Usher would lose the verses.
Usher got too many--
That's exactly because everybody likes that singing.
Usher got too many songs where he's
begging for the pussy
and didn't get it.
Wow.
What?
Before this,
you was like my best friend.
So you mean
you got a song
that don't make a move?
We used to talk,
I used to take my problems.
Chris get the pussy
in every song.
Every last one.
Every song.
He fuck the whole crew.
He fuck the squad.
And stalk his ex.
Karrueche,
get your ass out of here.
Chris fuck the new bitch
and stalk his ex.
Niggas,
stop playing with Chris.
Remember that shit
with the viral whips
that was in the bitch
when it occurred?
He would do whatever
He a gangster, yes he was.
Yo, I hate y'all.
Nigga turned his little blood.
He is fire.
Yeah, he's, yeah.
I love him.
Chris does a lot of records.
Chris does a lot.
Me and Fox don't talk about him on Twitter.
Yo, this nigga.
Listen, man, this was a good show.
It was.
This nigga ate the charts up.
Two of the greatest R&B artists of all time.
For sure.
That's a fact.
Chris Brown.
Early Bobby Brown in that.
Nobody compares us to Michael Jackson.
What's up with that face though?
I'm a funnel in the world, dude.
I never, never, never break up.
Yeah, Joe.
No, not this way.
But you don't understand me, girl.
When she touches me.
You hear it, Chris.
I'm wishing that it was your hand.
Toxic, sis.
Baby, when I'm with her, it's only about the sex.
With you, I had a bad romance.
Hey!
And if I could, I'd stand it in, I would.
Get out of here, boy.
Cause nobody could pass.
Yeah, fuck out of here, boy.
This is just the outro song, Mark.
too much joy in your face this has been a great show hopefully y'all have enjoyed this
yo hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you
keep us in your prayers lord knows it's up it's going on in my head
Until next time, we bid you adieu, farewell, adios,
arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye,
or a simple head nod will suffice.
Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past,
so let's make this one last as if it's all real.
Hey!
What y'all on this weekend?
What are y'all on this weekend?
What are y'all on this weekend, anybody?
Just work.
Just work?
Work for it.
Mark, what you doing this weekend?
Doing some birthday stuff with the boy.
All right, all right.
Oh, yeah, tonight, Michael Paul's birthday.
Michael Paul's birthday.
Happy birthday, Michael Paul.
Mona, what you on?
I'm getting ready for my upcoming Atlantic City and Atlanta show.
Hey!
Okay.
Beat out what you want what you on this weekend being a good dad man
I'm outside working man. All right. He's working bark bark bark supposed to be nice. All right. Yeah, I might be outside
That's his line to be outside for the weekend
Yo, honey, yo, remember I told you I gotta fix the house now you coming to my crib
Come see me.
I got to talk to you anyway.
Y'all hold it down, man.
Until next time, peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity.
Oh, before I go, yo, memory of a killer.
Chef's kiss, season finale.
Great job.
Great job on that.
Finish the show if you haven't seen it.
Until next time.
She ain't no she ain't, yeah.
Now lovers and friends might be tough.
No, he's going to need to really hit him when Love and the Fridge come on.
JVP!
JVP!
Where would you be without the JVP?
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast discusses the ethics of objectification, particularly when men use phrases like "damn" or "I'll fuck the shit out of you" toward women, arguing that such remarks can be degrading and exploitative.
Participants debate whether "damn" is flirty or objectifying, with some agreeing it's a compliment, while others see it as a threat, especially when paired with verbal or physical invasions of personal space.
A central concern is that objectification becomes more harmful when it happens without consent, especially when women react with fear or distress, indicating a lack of agency.
The hosts emphasize that true respect involves polite appreciation—like saying "you look good"—rather than degrading or threatening remarks that reduce a person to an object.
There’s a discussion about street culture and street identities, with participants questioning whether someone who survived violence or lived a street life can still be considered "street" if they now live a civilian life.
A key point is that public expressions of personal trauma—like Gucci Mane’s song about being threatened—can be seen as irresponsible or exploitative, especially when they involve violence and lack context.
The conversation highlights the cultural tendency to glorify street violence and silence victims, leading to a cycle where survivors are misrepresented or vilified.
The hosts conclude that in healthy culture, people should be encouraged to speak up for themselves, not victimize or objectify others, and that personal boundaries matter regardless of social status or background.
Summary:
The podcast explores the ethical boundaries of objectification in everyday interactions, particularly focusing on how men use casual language like "damn" or "I'll fuck the shit out of you" toward women. The hosts argue that such remarks, especially when delivered without consent, reduce individuals to objects and can cause fear and emotional distress. While some see "damn" as a harmless compliment, others view it as a form of catcalling or threat, particularly when it escalates into aggressive or invasive behavior.
The discussion also delves into broader cultural issues, such as the glorification of street violence and the public performance of trauma, using Gucci Mane’s song as a case study. Critics argue that releasing such content so soon after a violent incident is irresponsible and exploitative, especially when it lacks accountability or context. The conversation underscores that respectful interaction requires awareness of power dynamics, consent, and personal boundaries.
Ultimately, the hosts advocate for a culture that values empathy, self-respect, and dignity—where people are not reduced to objects or narratives of violence. The tone remains critical of both casual objectification and the public glorification of street culture, urging listeners to question their language and behaviors in real-life interactions.
FAQs
No, the podcast is purely for entertainment and does not present its content as serious or factual.
The podcast clearly states that objectifying women is never acceptable and criticizes comments like 'damn' or 'I'll fuck the shit out of you' as harmful and inappropriate.
The podcast explains that 'damn' is seen as a flirty compliment, while 'I'll fuck the shit out of you' is viewed as a threat and a clear form of objectification.
Yes, the podcast highlights that catcalling or making inappropriate comments, especially in public, can be distressing and disrespectful to women.
Yes, it raises concerns that rappers who speak about being threatened or attacked should not do so publicly, especially if it could be seen as irresponsible or exploitative.
The podcast questions whether being a 'street nigga' is defined by behavior or actual activity, and suggests that some individuals may have reformed while still holding street-oriented values.
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