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Episode 919 | "Scott La Rock Died?"

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Episode 919 | "Scott La Rock Died?"

The podcast explores the ethical boundaries of objectification in everyday interactions, particularly focusing on how men use casual language like "damn" or "I'll fuck the shit out of you" toward women. The hosts argue that such remarks, especially when delivered without consent, reduce individuals to objects and can cause fear and emotional distress. While some see "damn" as a harmless compliment, others view it as a form of catcalling or threat, particularly when it escalates into aggressive or invasive behavior. The discussion also delves into broader cultural issues, such as the glorification of street violence and the public performance of trauma, using Gucci Mane’s song as a case study. Critics argue that releasing such content so soon after a violent incident is irresponsible and exploitative, especially when it lacks accountability or context. The conversation underscores that respectful interaction requires awareness of power dynamics, consent, and personal boundaries. Ultimately, the hosts advocate for a culture that values empathy, self-respect, and dignity—where people are not reduced to objects or narratives of violence. The tone remains critical of both casual objectification and the public glorification of street culture, urging listeners to question their language and behaviors in real-life interactions.

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. Alright, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic, mic check. Last looks, last looks. Last looks. You know what I mean? I woke up like this. Everybody do what you gotta do. You woke up like this. Good esthetician skin still going. Your nails look like something. Huh? My earrings are missing. Someone got you? They're in that bag somewhere. Fuck them, come on. Do it live. No, we wait. No, we wait. Last looks, we said. Go ahead and get your last looks, girl. Get your shit off. I see you got your black eyes. In fact, hair, man. Yo, hey, I could have, I could have jumped through the phone. This motherfucker. Black motherfucker. I be home catching feelings over the dumbest shit. Mona popped up looking mad good on my timeline. I almost fired you. It's like, alright, we have been getting jipped. Fuck, what's wrong with her? Anyway. Anyway. So last part, I came in here. Last part, I came in here with a Teej or Moses question. Nobody wanted to participate in the Teej or Moses question. But everybody kind of knew. Everybody kind of knew what I was getting at. We smelled what you were stepping in. Yeah, they was picking up what I was putting down. But we all pussy, so we didn't say it. What's the question? Well, it was a fill in the blank. Okay. It was a Teej or Moses. Be looking like she. Can hook a steak up. Acceptable answer. Acceptable answer. And then after that, after I said that, I just jumped in the group chat. So I'm like, yo, I spoke to Teej or Moses. She's watching the show. She heard what you said. I come in today-ish like, yo, Teej or Moses want to come up here. Like, wait a second now. What did I miss? Like, what happened? Everybody get connected. The Teej or Moses. Shout to Teej or Moses. Nobody. Man shouts. Man shouts. Yells. What happened? Nothing. Ain't nobody want to disrespect the queen. Yeah, but how did anybody speak to her? I didn't speak to her. I didn't speak to her either. Me neither. I understand why everybody was quiet. But when is it all right to objectify women? Never. Never, Joe. Are you crazy? Oh, y'all got some crazy. What kind of show you think this is? Yeah. Crazy. Sometimes. How dare you, Joe? What is wrong with you? It's never okay to objectify women. What if it's your woman? Oh, you got to objectify your lady all the time. That's required. That's pretty much all I do. Women fought and fought and fought. They just were able to own houses not too long ago, Joe, and have bank accounts. Facts. And you still want to put them in that place? They be saying that shit when I feel bad. Y'all are terrible. Y'all ain't need a mortgage in no way. That is fucking horrible. Bitches could've opened up a Roth IRA. Hey, we didn't count as full humans until what, 68 or some shit? Get in the back of the line, man. Y'all need the trouble of that bank account anyway. Get out of here. Get out of here. Let me flip it. Now look what's happening with chicks getting jobs. I think a little public appreciation is good. Maybe not full-out objectification. You can do it in a polite way. Yeah, you can say she looks good. That's a beautiful woman. What do you say? Damn. Yeah, I think that's. Damn's okay. That was a joke. Damn is okay? Wait, no damn? You can say damn. I say damn. What kind of dress is she wearing? If I walk. You look nice today Is that Valentino What story is connected to your show Let me ask you since you're a woman There we go Sometimes I don't know That's what the fans be saying When you walk by and a nigga hits you with the damn Go ahead Honestly that's like complimenting That's not even like scary You from north No it's not that cause I've said that before Those little interactions can get crazy sometimes if you respond the wrong way. But damn, it's gassing me, to be honest. That's gassing me. So as long as they're gassing you good, do you feel objectified? Like, I mean, I think everybody is sort of objectified at some point. I'm a comic and I get dick pics and jerk off videos. Damn. Wow. Like, that's what I mean. Like, if I'm on the internet doing content, like, the most of it is jokes. You know what I'm saying? And that's the automatic reaction I got from the door. Yeah, see, that's the OD, dude. My shorty one time said she was walking and a guy passed her and said, damn, I'll fuck the shit out of you. And she was like, taking a back, like a gasp. Like, oh my gosh. That's a little flagrant. That's crazy, though. That's crazy. I've heard way worse. My thing about that kind of remark is like, who do that work on? Like, what kind of response do you expect to get from that? Yeah. Like, no woman has ever said, oh, word? Let's go find out. Right. Some things you're not saying for a response. That's the thing. That's true. And that's why it's so ill to me. Because what's the point? Yeah, you just want that for you. Like, you want to see her reaction. She's freaked out. She's afraid. Like, what tip are you on that? To me, that's the objectification because she's literally just an object. That's purely for your pleasure. It ain't got shit to do with her. Yeah, I think damn is the same. Really? They close. Nah, so I'll fuck the shit out of you? No, no, no, no, no, no. How do you say damn? You say damn with your dick out? No, no, I'm just saying, like, I think damn is objectifying. Like, somebody walks by you like, damn, like, you don't know the person. damn is I'm with this damn is one and I'll fuck the shit out of you is ten but it's the same scale damn I don't think so hey she know what we're saying no it's not the same scale it's not the same scale damn could almost be like your body is nice or you just dead pretty damn I'll fuck the shit out of you is nah that's a comma you said damn verbally I'll fuck the shit out of you mentally yeah no cause like dick comma I don't bust your ass that's from all minority reports so you can't get punished for what you're thinking I'm not disagreeing, but us as men are saying they in the same vein. Bitch, what if we said wow instead of damn? Mark, mute us. I'm not wow. Wow. No, I'm saying like damn is just a hard one. You look nice today. I'm not just saying damn is just a hood way of saying wow. That's the doctor version of how to fuck the shit out of you. I'm saying they're not on the same scale. I would so fornicate with you. I'm saying damn and wow is on one side. I'll fuck the shit out of you. It's a whole different scale to me. Mark, wow is not on no side. It's not on the side. What I'm saying is, wow is just a weak word way of saying damn. If somebody walked by with a great body, she look good, whatever, you go, damn. To me, that's it. I'm impressed by what I see. I fucked the shit out you. It's like a threat to a stranger. Yeah. Not if you look fuckable. Everything in Fifty Shades of Grey was stalking and harassment, but not in that movie. This is true. This is true. The half of the Instagrams, nigga. So it depends on who's saying it. Joe, you wear nice clothes. You've gone to LA. It's happened to you before. You get on the elevator, a guy has said to you before, like, wow, you look good, or damn, that looks good. That's never happened to me before. Fans, please find the video where he talks about this guy on the elevator telling me to look good and just bring that up. A dude says to you, damn. In five minutes later, somebody's going to be like, I'll fuck the shit out of you, Joe. That's different. If a guy is hitting you with a wow or a damn, see, this is why Diggins be trying to pick you up, and you don't be knowing what's going on. Oh, you watch the episode. He's picking you up. He's trying to flirt with you if he's saying damn or wow to you. And that's my point. Damn is a flirt. I'll fuck the shit out of you is not a flirt. That's what I'm saying. You're saying the same thing I'm saying. Damn is flirty. Damn. Yeah, I know, Mark. I think it depends on who's saying the damn and how you say it, right? That definitely plays a part. Yeah. Damn. Because if a fat, an ugly chick says damn to you, it's like, is it? You stopped yourself from saying ugly? I didn't. You said it yourself. I love the fat girls But I'm just saying If an ugly chick says it It hits different As opposed to a hot chick Saying it to you Does it? Not for me Not for me Oh this is great Not for men I think it's different for women I'm not a woman but Cause you know If you a certain dude You could get away With certain shit Facts That's true You get what I'm saying? Like you could get away With certain shit But the handsome guy Still can't say I'll fuck the shit out of you That's what I'm saying That's the perfect point The handsome guys ain't gonna say I'll fuck the shit out of you because they'll get, they'll activate. Yeah. The handsome guys just gonna activate. Yeah, it's gonna happen. What am I saying it for? I'm by myself, you right there. You know what time it is. Let's put this thing in the motion. Once we engage, it's on. You just, you know about that ish. People just put themselves once we are here. Right. I'm me as the leader of the handsome niggas. No, I wasn't even saying that. I was talking about me and the girl. Like, no, cause I, you know that. Hand him, nigga, Don't play with my board. - No, that ain't my bag. Like, hollering ain't really my bag. So, but once we- - A little pss pss stuff. - He's shy. - Once they approach you. - No, once it, however the conversation, however the conversation starts, once we there, we there. I don't have to say no ignorant shit to you. - That's what I'm saying. - Like, you don't gotta say I'ma fuck this shit up. - His confidence is out the window. have to talk his whole life nah I ain't mad at my boy dog which one is it I talk too much or I never have to talk nigga you both both both nigga don't try to trick us up look at him nigga look at me yeah look at me when I talk to you nigga so which one is it both yeah I said you never needed words to get it going at all once it gets going you missed a fucking he Thomas the Train he gone So Mona, so if a handsome guy approaches you like, like, like a Idris Elba says, damn, she goes, I eat you up. You think he cute? You think he cute? I'm just saying that's what women think they like. I used that example a couple months ago. I'm just saying, who's the handsome guy that women like? Idris Elba, right? It's gay. It's gay. He's my type too, B-Dot. Ma, are you crazy? He's in your guy five? Yeah, oh, for sure. Hey, you back us on the guys? Yo, what? Cry with a brother who's overkill, dude. Huh? Go back in the house, Ma. Ma, go back in the house. Yo, this guy is crazy. Crazy. The point is, if a random guy from North says the same thing, does it hit the same? Random guys from North are attractive too. I'm just saying, just a random guy. Or a mutant approaches you and says, damn, does it hit the same for you? Nigga, you know who you're talking to, nigga? Damn and damn, but one look better? Yeah. Come on, Mona. Mona, fuck off the damn. I don't know. Like, approaching somebody like on a catcall shit is like, do you really want to have a conversation? Like, at this big age? I couldn't imagine somebody catcalling me, me stopping. When you a kid, you turn around, but as an adult, you don't do that. Nigga, brush past you and look good, he on it, you know. But I'ma fuck the shit out you, damn, and all that hip-hop shit, no. Hip-hop shit, all that hip-hop shit. What are you talking about, bro? What, the triple glow or something? Bro, I'm dead serious. I'm just over that. Like, I could not imagine a nigga like, God damn, like, skin and I turn around. Like, I actually talk back, you know what I mean? So, what do you mean? Yo, he gonna turn around, like, yo? Nah. Was that the one that used to get it done, though? He just did that to me, though, recently, like, loudly. Like, yo, pretty in pink. I had a pink sweatshirt on. Pretty in pink, pretty. I was mortified. Like, more. You didn't turn around at all? You just left? I put my head down and power walked. Yeah, because, like, that's, come on. But if he didn't scream, I'd fuck the shit out you, you'd have ran. I would have ran. I would have ran. I don't have to imagine it's where you're at, too. And when you're at. Where you're at. Parks is catcalling and just DMing the same thing. Like, you just. DMing. Like, direct messages, Snapchat. That's new school. Like, when I say I get a dick pic, that's what it comes through, the direct message. Oh, I see what you're saying. So, most of my dams and wows, because I do get wows. Sure. They're on the pictures in the story. Like, they just, they DM you all day. They'll say, you know what I mean? But the people that DM me and say, I'll fuck the shit out you, I do not respond. I don't like to comment nothing. The damn and the wow, I might, like, conversate a little bit. What lines would get it done for you in the DMs that make you open it? Because I know you talked about this before, but what can somebody say to make you say, oh, shit, thank you? If you make me laugh, if you crack a joke. Okay. I don't like that. That's automatic. Cash, yeah. Crack. That's a bag. You said how much? Can I pay for your nails and all that? Yeah. Let's go, Mona. And if you really pay attention, like, one time this guy knew the nickname for my coochie, and I only said it on my podcast, so that means he had to watch my show. Because he was like, how you doing? You and Tabitha. I was like, oh, my God, how you know about Tabitha? Tabitha. Tabitha. That's her name. I was about to say, we didn't escape past that. No, this is not Bewitched, my nigga. Tabitha and her nickname. This is a workplace. I want to just remind everybody. We're just going to move past it, but your name is Tabitha. Tabitha. Y'all don't have names? Did you name her Tabitha to somebody else? Yes, me. Oh, nigga got named to Tabitha. You can name my kitty kitty. Yeah, nigga might have cast some spells on her, nigga. No, people have names for their parts sometimes. Men do that, too. None of y'all in here never named your dicks. I never named my dick, no. Okay. Maybe I'm a weirdo. I accept it. As long as you're self-aware. Yeah. And anytime I said to somebody or thought that I was going to fuck her, fuck the shit out of somebody, I didn't. That's the other thing. Hey, yo, you. That's the shortest day ever, nigga. When you hype yourself, I'm going to kill it. Why do y'all do that? Yeah, because you be hype. I don't even say that shit. I don't ever say that shit. It's like you. Lower. I try to lower expectations, man. It's like you put a spell on yourself. You go in there and try to kill it. Wah, wah. Bitch, really like, come in. Word. Like, yo, nah. Not to mention most women hate that. Like, why are you talking about it? Not me. Not me. I'm going to say, watch yourself. Nah. They have DMs back when you was, you know what I mean? NYU chill. I'm on you. They DM me, too. We'll talk later. He said. We'll talk later, professor. Every most times, the guy that hypes it up is always ass. Like, never. The guy that busts your ass don't even mention it. The guy that acts like he don't want sex that fucks you on your first time somewhere because he didn't talk about it. You didn't see it coming. Makes no use of the full notes of the woman. Pun intended, nigga. Knocked your fucking head off. Yeah, but that's a better route than constantly texting about it, asking about it. Saying what you're going to do to a coochie when you get it. Like, that's stupid. Men should be hip to that kind of shit by now. Like, that's dumb. Act like you don't want it. You get it. You know? Sure. Hard to get. Under promise. Overperform. Got a list of things that are kind of gay. We got umbrellas, lollipops, being cozy, laughing too hard, getting a ticket, ice cream, eating slowly, plugging your nose, jumping in a pool, fingernail trimmers, sunscreen, skin care, eating candy, trampolines, baths, wearing gloves when it's cold. Being cold. Complaining. Aprons. Holding in a sneeze but letting a squeak out. Protesting. Having a spotless house. Saying, oh my gosh. Fiend socks. Mocktails. Reading. Dreaming. Feeling things. Water shoes. Not liking sports. Being under 150 pounds. Saying yum. Looking for parking. Getting cut off. Dropping something. Picking it up. Scooters. Asking for help in a store. Parentheses, just leave. Tea. Chewing gum. Grocery shopping. Dessert. Blowing your nose. Tying your shoe. Driving with two hands on the steering wheel. Eating stuff with cream filling. Pushing a pole door and vice versa. Waving. Chocolate-covered fruits. Hydroplaning. Naps. Being deceived or tricked. Getting surprised. Holding balloons. Blowing out candles. Food allergies. Trying to get a server's attention and not being heard. Using chapstick. Whispering. Covering a yawn. Losing your balance. Getting your hat blown off by the wind. Being scared. Attempting a parallel park and not one-repping it. Holding your phone with your face and or shoulder. Receiving medical attention and saying "Bless you." That's fucking hilarious. Nah, I used that out with some of them. I think I covered half of those. I'm honest, I'm like a solid 80%, I'm like a 75-year-old. Blowing your hat is crazy. Holding your sneeze and letting it squeak out. Letting it squeak out is crazy. Holding your shit, no. That has to be accurate. Wait. The real you that squeaks. Losing your hat to the wind. This is my body. I was at the bar the other night, cold as shit. I felt like such a fucking bitch. My wife was warm, I was sick. You better hold that shit in, Parks. Yeah, I'm sitting here like this. Oh, shit. Oh, man. Pockets broke this town, I'm out the back of the cell. People look at you like you's the user. Selling drugs to all the losers. Mad go to the abuser. But they don't know about your stress-filled day. Baby on the way, mad bills to pay. That's why you drink Tangeray, so you can reminisce and wish. You want to live it so devilish. Shit. That is definitely the demo version of that song. That makes me look like the old bastard or something. God damn. OK, I'm reloading. You motherfuckers think you big time? Fucking with Jay-Z, you're going to die big time. You're going to pay. Chick up, chick up, pick up, pick up, pick up, pick up. Oh, yeah. Rest in peace Clark Kent. Oh, my god. Word. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Still waiting on those sweet prices. Fuck this and drive to nothing. Back with you. Get you. Back split you. Fuck this, fight to leave scuffles. Mic check, one, two, one, two. Big Jersey, New York. What up, what up, what up? Daughter in a calf muscle. Fuck a tussle. Nickel plated. Sprinkle coke on the floor, make it drug related. Most haters being faded. We got a coke billy, you run up and stun it. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Scared so you sent your little mans to come kill me. Uh-huh. But on the contrary, I paxed the Mac Mini. Squeezed off on them. Left the paramedic free to surf on them. What's your name? Who shot you? Mocked eyes like Sinatra. Peruvians tried to do me in. I ain't paid them yet. Trying to push 700s. They ain't made them yet. Rolex and bracelets. We frostbite. Rinsed two niggas round the way. Call me igloo sticks. Crazy and baseball. Biggest shit you draw. Where you from? Cochlear going out for all. Bossy. Bossy. We don't stop. Best out. Uh-huh. We don't stop. They gone. They gone. What? What? What? What? What? What? I wanted the people in Bensonhurst for Mac. They ain't get a shout out. Fuck that. This is it, bae. Hey, baby. Baby. Yes, sir. Use your mouth. You used to have bad luck. Now you might see me in a Jag truck. Bad stuff. Even with a dime or a bagged up. Double RT with the matching bandana. Why, yo? What up? I be a snub. Blue stare with no hammer. Yes, sir. Y'all niggas trying to glance. Hit the kiss. Because I walk around with your ass to my wrist. When drunk off Coronas and lemon, and you're Know I'm still right in the mean Lighten the green, I need a buggy Even though I look right in the bean Judge, find out it's my team, he boosts their sales Niggas throw us on the album, try to boost their sales We put our pies on the table when our eyes on the label Cause the rednecks up in the mountains and try to slay Call me raspy, tell you what I want you to know Fuck what you ask me, you probably don't want me to blow I got a lot of horsepower, so I'm able to skip Usually a good nigga, even though I'm able to flip You pay 30 for the kiss, 100 for the lock And if we cool, then I write a hook for a drop Whatever's in the bank is what you pay You owe my pay, I'm back in the lane I come bossing niggas to the fish like Swanson New York's youngest, Ogie Johnson I put fee in y'all heads, chic moves Type of nigga, gasoline, y'all bets Damn, I can't play this whole thing, but the verses I want to hear is at the end I'm waiting for it Yeah, I'ma see if I can roll up, man I tell all that, all y'all niggas eager to die I tell all my niggas ride I'm a monster, see whole winners wake up and spit summer Kill a nigga, put that bitch in numbers Surrounded by sixes and hummers, bitch Blackout vs. Soap All I mean, Soap All Soap All, right? Nah, Black, meanest, toughest, dun-duttered, the gun butcher? Come on It doesn't get better than that Soap All, the student Feels wrong to pick Soap All, though It does, but I think even Jay-Z would say this one Among us, try not to let this bullshit become us Started from hunger, turned it on when it's saying You got a great show lined up for y'all today Big Moan in the building Yeah, she's back People don't change, you're dead, bitch, the reaper done came I suggest niggas stop talking to you I'm not speaking my name Cause trust me, y'all can still feel the heat in the rain I keep creeping Rest in peace, Aggie Poppin' It's just hot hands and the bullets to keep seeking Jay-Z flows and pesos, chase hoes Nah, I just circle round the block in the drive Tell them jump to the top Where the sunroof used to be I can see y'all not used to me I'm the meanest, toughest, dun-duttered, the gun butcher You've been typing, but it's a lot of shots and none touch you I'm the type to get excited Excited when the gun touches It's been five years since we lost the MX X, we miss you, man Clark, Irv, we miss you, man A lot of people I miss Can't wait for this Mark eulogy today, boy I got you one cut out for you, buddy Get the other take of music theme ready Oh my God, let me get these drops out the way What's that? It's Mark! You icing What was that? Is Mark in my head, pussing, pussing, pussing, pussing? Flip and Mona and Beast B-Dot B-Dot, what episode is this? 919 Welcome to episode 919 of the Joe Budden Podcast Brought to you by, fueled by, powered by PrizePix, PrizePix gang I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people To my right, don't call her white girl We missed her dearly Big Demona is in the building Demona, how you doing? I'm good, glad to see you, niggas Good, we happy to see you too Next to her, another Philly motherfucker Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building Mark, how you doing, man? I'm good, I'm good, I'm good Can I give a, well, I'm going to give a happy birthday to Malcolm My four-year-old, he hit the big 0-4 today Happy birthday, baby Nice Happy birthday, Malcolm Let's go, that's great news Is he named after Malcolm? Brother Malcolm That's right Aries Aries? Aries or Pisces? I don't be knowing that stuff I think Aries Aries? Aries, yeah That nigga know everything but the horoscope That's the line, wish him Zodiac sign, girl Basic reading I just do April 10th Oh, shout out to Q-Tip too, it's his birthday too Happy birthday, Tip Happy birthday, Q-Tip Oh, I talked to him yesterday Legend Feels funny when you don't put the Q in front of it Yeah, Tip is wild Yeah, Tip is, happy birthday, Tip is crazy Giving out some happy birthday tip, LLF Next to him, our good brother, man Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, Big Ish is in the building Ish, how you doing? I'm great, you so? Good, couldn't be better, absolutely love that for you Next to him, come on, Queens is fine, it's Big B-Dot What's poppin'? Tom Brown endorsements galore That's my tax refund money And you put the chains out today Huh? Stop playing with them Dipped in the stash, splurged on the chain Yeah, come on Take that, Elliot All right, take it off All right, Big B-Dot is here Next to him, Queens, get the money Queens split in the building Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Next to him, our Myra's finest, Big Parks in the building Hotter than mud White Poe is here Corey is here Phelps is here Erickson is here Tanner and Savana are here by remote Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you Very important people out there are here Everybody's good Indeed Everybody's good, we feeling good Y'all smell great, y'all look great Come on, let's get right to it, man Yeah Let's get right to it Pack him up Pack him up Come on, queue it up I'm queuing it up It's not in my Serato I won't burden your Serato with this Yeah, I'm not, I'm not Wow I wouldn't dare waste my fucking Apple computer memory Yeah On this bullshit Y'all not feeling the new Gucci Mane, huh? You wasn't either, nigga Yo, tell me if one of y'all are about to defend this Cause I'll take a Tylenol Tell me what? The new Gucci Mane There she goes Screw up Yeah We're down Nigga, I hate to see you up Tell the truth You went out like a real crash diamond And not the other way around All that But you still signed to me I'm like Birdman and nigga This my cash mining And your fat ass flanking He a stone cold junkie You know I got my bread up I always keep my head up I thought it was a business meeting But it was a setup I walk in the room You can feel the pressure building Niggas doubt me up The whole time they flying against me I don't take it personal For me it's only business And I don't wanna conversate If it ain't about no million They don't keep No one seems to be bothered With their head So I'ma go ahead Thank you Fire Thank you for pausing that Yeah Cause what the fuck Wait hold on So you don't like the record? I don't like anything about any of this Me either I don't like anything about any of this So I'm confused Because do you Are you promoting Nah I'm not with that nigga But You promoting violence in hip hop again? Huh? That's what I'm saying He's rapping because somebody did something to him That's what he's rapping about Okay And he's taking Instead of taking the street route Like he killed somebody else That tried to kill him Yeah I would rather he shot somebody Give me a second Give me a second You niggas is all hypocrites You niggas is conveniently Everyone's a hypocrite Support a street shit No Like now all of a sudden Nigga you support a street shit too No I'm just saying That's a bad song I think it's a response You talking about the song Or the situation He said I don't like Wait I'm talking to him He said I don't like anything about this That's what I'm referring to So I'm asking my man Are you back on that side? Pack him up I don't agree with that nigga Pack He It's over now It's over buddy It's over Pack him up Outside of this song Being absolutely horrible True It sound like The stenographer wrote it Yeah They tell him That's what it sounds like I'm a businessman He said I'm a businessman 90 times on this motherfucker Nigga who you telling I said Who you telling Court? My problem Who is he talking to? On here I'm a civilian I just want millions I don't want no trouble But Shut the fuck up With this shit Get him out of here Cause this wasn't the tone At the Jeezy Versus That's a fact I'm with you That's a fact So I like I like My street niggas To be consistent Joe I'm telling you This could be the This could be He could be playing possum So he He got on the record now That he's a businessman He ain't got no trouble He ain't got no street shit And if somebody turn up missing It ain't got nothing to do with him He might be set in the trap This is horrible The song sucks I think it's irresponsible I mean this is over It's an open case My question to y'all is If it was hard Would it be a difference? If it was hard I wouldn't have no problem with it Honestly I might still have some issues with it Alright that's what I mean My issue is being that He's playing the CEO role And I think he's right to do that And I think You know I don't give a fuck About all this snitching shit But If you're gonna do that Do that At least do it well I'm just saying Don't go back to rapping Like You know I'm a businessman I had to do this Cause this is what a businessman would do Then do that I agree with part of it Okay If it were all If it were a harder joint My tone would be different My tone would be different I love a good hard diss track This type of track With this whatever he's doing two to three days after it's released, the shit that he's bragging about, I don't feel like he's excited. Oh, all of that, you still signed to me. Nigga, it was a rifle to your fucking head. Like, what are we talking about with this? But to Flip's point, he's a rapper, so he's doing what rappers do, is documenting the experience. But at the same time, like I said, it's an open case. It's kind of irresponsible for them to talk about that so soon. Disgusting. I like a little irresponsibility in rap, so I'm not going to hold. It's an open case, but he's not charged. He's the victim. What's the risk? That's what I mean. The only way it would matter if it was an open case is if he really wanted him persecuted and put in prison. And he's going to kick like he didn't care, he's not cooperating. That's what his line's going to be in the street. He's never going to claim that he's cooperating with the police if he even cooperates with the police. My thing is, every Gucci wife went on a breakfast club and said that he was on psych meds. She said that she would have to sometimes get people together to grab his ass when he was manic or whatever and take him to, somewhere where he can calm down, get some medicine and come home and try a new medicine. That's the Gucci that we're dealing with. Somebody that's on fucking psych meds. That's the type of distract you get from a nigga that's medicated. And when you say street nigga, to me, Gucci ain't been a street nigga in years. Like, that's over. But that energy that the verses did give, like, I'm still mad out poppy today, but in reality, like, he's not a street guy. That verse wasn't that long ago. It wasn't. It was like five years. If anything, that was strange. But that's a specific energy. I mean, I get that. I mean, I just hate that in hip-hop. One dude busts into a room, puts somebody, put a gun to somebody's head, robbed them, and tried to get them to sign a contract under duress, and we're saying, the dude, the victim is irresponsible. Like, I get what you're saying. You're not wrong. It just speaks to the culture we're in, and I'm frustrated by that. Like, all our energy should be for the niggas that put the guns in people's heads. And even myself, I'm finding myself mad at this song. I'm mad at how he's dealing with it. Yeah, but you bring up the word energy, and I believe that energy is real, and you manifest shit, and you attract the laws of attraction. I came in here, and I said, this is when Gucci got mad at me when I said, yo, dog, maybe it's time to start looking for, like, musicians and not signing every street nigga in the universe because eventually you play with pigs, you get dirty. Like, what the fuck do you think was gonna happen? Then when Homeboy died and the second he died, the second he died, your scar, rest in peace, the second he died, you want your 10-17 chain back. Like, he been a little off. Yeah. He's been off. So now, when you put the oatmeal in the microwave and it come out oatmeal, now you wanna get on a song with all of this shit? Nigga, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. We wasn't looking for music from you before. Don't come drop something at midnight talking about crash dirt. Nigga, y'all all crash dirt. All of y'all. Fuck it. You gotta keep creating separatism. Crash dummy separatism. I'm trying. Well, well, well, well. Here's the thing. I'm with you on that. I didn't wanna listen to the song because, you know, what I thought he stood for. In all reality, though, when I look at it, in his mind, he's gonna say he don't want the other side to win. He don't want your Gotti to win. I don't want, you ain't gonna, I look at it from a bigger scope. All right, yo, you did that to me to get out the contract with me to go sign with them. Because me and him, him going at it, he's not gonna win neither, and you're not gonna win. So, what do you expect to happen? Are we taking it to the streets? I do feel like he should shut the fuck up on the record and just have us think what he's gonna do next, but I do understand the fact of, like, nigga, like, none of you niggas gonna win. We don't necessarily condone, let me speak for myself. I don't condone taking it to the streets, but you don't have to do this either. You can do neither. He should have shut the fuck up. You can do neither. You don't have to do. You can make a good song for that. What if two tough niggas is beefing? What if two, what if you know a nigga over there, you, I know playing with you like this, I know what's gonna happen. What if, where are you at now? I know a lot of, well, in the streets where we from, when two tough niggas is beefing, a lot of times it's either casualty or war or they come together and they squash it. In this situation, he don't feel like he's gonna squash it. It's way past squash. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So what do you do? Let him put out bad music. To me, it's like, I see this, then they go to the street. Of course. If this is his outlet, because the other thing is like, you've been publicly embarrassed. You could play all that tough shit. Like, the world saw you with a gun to your head. He's not doing nothing to them niggas. I'm just saying, he might want to, he might want to get, I can see him wanting to get him to express himself. Those niggas, Poo Shiesty, them, they real gangsters where they from. They are active. Absolutely a real gangster. That nigga went with his father. Poo Shiesty, mom just went viral for her ignorance. Not because she look like that, but she's saying dead serious, no bullshit. It's so ignorant and ridiculous, it went viral. And she basically just wants some, you know how we get down. And this is a 50-year-old woman. So it's like, I don't know. I want to add to what Joe was saying about Gucci. I feel like Gucci has never necessarily been like a nice guy. Like, taking the chains back from Big Scar, doing certain things back in the day, you know, nailing everybody, blaming on drugs, but he never really was a nice guy. So the verse is kind of more speaks to his character than anything. As far as I'm being a street nigga, Gucci ain't no street nigga. They are rich and he is medicated. And that's what's going on. And I would be surprised if he really cooperates. He don't have to. It's enough witnesses and camera footage to make it a case without him. He don't have to. But he that petty, he might. It would be a fuck you. It wouldn't be a fear thing to end you. Do you think that would damage his reputation? He's already fucked. There's nothing he can do and he's fucked. That's what they're saying. You might as well just stop rapping. On top of the fact that, because on his song he's bragging about 1017, Poushaisi's been in jail the majority of the deal. Big Scar is dead. Enchanted is dead. There's nobody successful off the whole joint. Because that was it. Waka left. That's a good point. Waka left. And that's it. Long time we're in. I ain't even Waka so far. But I'm seeing a new group. The new group. Got it, got it, got it. I understand what you're saying. Those four, I mean, two dead and one that never really was on the deal. You can't even brag on a label. And then when he refers to himself like he's Birdman and Cash Money so you know you robbing them niggas. And I also think that's disgusting. Rappers that have been out and know how to game and then they get that chance to give you a deal and they fuck them. I don't get that. I don't give a fuck what industry you in. If you were a rapper and you know what that feels like, why are you fucking people? Like that doesn't make any sense. Why not be fair with your shit? Like why? I don't know their business but I definitely second that motion. In the mic. Me? Yeah. Oh, I definitely second that. I always say like, yo dawg, to all these niggas that be dissing the industry or dissing the labels, in my opinion, if I always say like, yo dawg, if you got bullied before, right, because you ain't know how to fight, cool, you go start taking martial arts classes, you get your shit up. If you become a bully, you worse than the niggas that bullied you. A karate bully. Like niggas that didn't know, niggas that didn't know the game and you learn the game and you start using that shit to weaponize, I think that shit is terrible. It's horrible. So I don't know the specifics to their case but I definitely second that. The second, that nigga Chang after he dies is crazy. Like, that boy OD'd and he goes back to get the jury. That's not crazy? Yes, it is crazy. Like what? And then it wasn't even like a hide or secret thing. Them family exposed, he was like, hell yeah, I went back to get my motherfucker Chang. I gave it to him. Damn. Yeah, it's hard to have sympathy for him. I just wish somebody heard the song or he played a song for somebody before he sent it out. Yeah. You can tell you don't have community and people who love you if you put out a song like this. Yeah, the bottom line, the song is not very good. Sometimes you do hope. I never even heard this nigga's rap voice be like this. Yeah, yeah. He sound worried. He sound like he's concerned about things. I've never heard of him. He was like, I'm in the booth. Yes. Shut the, this nigga's nuts. It's a testimony. I'm sure people were hitting him up all week asking his thoughts about the case and whatnot. This was probably, like you said, his outlet to get his side of the story out. This nigga has never used or rapped the word tactical. Ever. And we cut it off before, cut it back off. Come on, cut it back off. Let's get tactical. Let's get back to this motherfucker. He'll make you stronger. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. My money keep getting longer. Now these haters got them knees. Yo, I got a move tactical. Every move magical and I'm from East Texas. That nigga said tactical. Take a drink every time he says tactical. Yeah, nigga took the LR. I don't know. Sometimes you sit there, I sat there and I hope that he took it. I hope that he stood tall. I ain't gonna lie. It's, I was there. I hope that Gucci man holds it down. You know what? I'm tired of that talk though, man. But why? You can't hold it down. Don't testify. Yeah, I hope he didn't testify. I hope that he just handle it like how niggas handle it. That's what you hoped? I did. And see, I'm not killing. I didn't want any killing. Who knows how, however it handled. There's a couple ways to handle that situation. I didn't want him to go on a stand. I didn't want him to tell. Sometimes, like Joe said, I do agree with him on that point. Like you want to, whatever street nigga you want them to fucking live it to the end of the day. Till they die. Yeah. That's why I fuck a 50. Does being a street nigga have an expiration date? Live it to the end of your days, nigga. I don't care. You can grow. I guess you can grow whatever internally, but nigga, if you're going to do it publicly, if you're going to act this way publicly, and if you're not going to show us the process of your growth, nigga, live it to the end of your days, nigga. My thing is, if you're in the game, my thing is, if you're in the game, operate within the rules of that game. But if you're not, I'm not mad at him. I mean, the nigga, somebody tried to kill him. And he killed him. Right. So you can talk about it. Then now somebody tried to rob you, put a gun to your neck, bust in your office. If he want to make a song about it, here's the thing, he ain't even tried since everybody already know. After he killed that guy, do you know what he did? You know what he was saying after he killed that guy? Look, if you send somebody to kill me, I'll say whatever the fuck I want. And it was legal. And it was legal, too. But do you know what he was saying, what he was representing? Yo, y'all put money on my head. You know, nigga, he motherfucking came out the, nigga, he didn't die. Let me ask you a question. He survived a hit, and he seemed like he didn't tell in that situation. After that? He seemed like, yo, I survived a hit, nigga, came and killed me, I killed him, and yo, I'm rapping about it, y'all niggas can suck my dick, I'm saying whatever, he did a thousand records, so now we like, oh, he's crazy. Then he signed a bunch of street niggas that sort of lived that life. Like, okay, this is his fucking character, and this is what he wants to do. I'm with you, but that could still be- So then now, this right here is a, I'm not fucking with that. I get what you're saying. I'm saying that- Fucking with that? It is a way that you reap what you sow, and Joe said the same thing, when you create all this. I'm just saying, I'm rooting for him to get out of all of that, and if the sign that he's at all that is that he's making a song instead of doing more street shit, I don't care how offbeat it is. Yeah, you gotta look at it from- Let me see. Gucci man like a street nigga. That's how y'all say Gucci man. Is there a statue on being a street nigga? Yeah, I mean, that's what I was going to say. I think you can clock out of that. Nigga, Mase, you gotta make it clear, though. If that's the case, then I'm a street nigga still. Like, there's no way that you can't- But you showing your growth. You showing your growth. It's not no growth. So is he with that rap song. You either a civilian or you're not. You could be street adjacent where you'll follow certain rules. You might not call police. You might not cooperate, but at the end of the day, to own the streets, something you have to be in them. To be in them is making money or putting money. To be in the street. That's the first thing. You gotta be doing street shit. So making money or putting money in the street. So in my opinion, if you sell drugs, right, if you get some type of street money, anything, if you're living off of money that if somebody tells that you will go to jail and you can't make that money, you are a street person. Because then you can't utilize what the civilians use. Civilians work regular jobs, pay taxes, use police. If I'm a street person and I'm making my own money, I don't pay no taxes on it, if I have a problem, I gotta handle it by myself. That's how it goes. But when he's surrounding himself, you just named it. He's surrounding himself around- Because you mentioned him. I'm like, signing street, guys. That has nothing to do with you in the street. What I'm saying, after what he survived from and then signing street niggas, he still was on that path of, yo, this is what I am. I'm here to give the niggas outside in the streets a chance to make millions like how I made millions. Still don't make him a street nigger. Well, he's a J-Squad. You keep mentioning the murder. Gucci man's murder was a rifle just killed. The same thing. Some white nigga- We're talking about self-defense. Self-defense. One murder, yeah. Some white nigga in Ohio, the same thing. Somebody's breaking into your house, attempting to kill you, and you kill them. It's legal, beagle, steagle. That's it. I'm aware of that. So that's not no gangster shit. We talking about after. How he carried it after. Because he talking shit. I'm talking about after. These niggas that run around saying, yo, no matter what, I will never talk to the cops about anything, nothing. Whatever you do, whatever I do, whatever we do, don't get no cops involved. He did it live. Yeah, it's a live. That comes off to me like- Like, you trying to be a street nigga. I pay taxes. Sometimes I want to use my taxpayer money to get one of these police or firemen over here to do some shit about some shit. Come get him. You get a fireman? Come get the cat out of the tree. I'm locked out of the house. Fix the pothole. Yeah. Come on, dummy. I'm just saying, when these niggas be on some, yo, I'm not talking to the cops about anything in life. That tells civilian Joe, oh, that you, oh, you playing a certain one. Let me ask you a question, right? So, I'm kind of quiet. Because I stand, I'm teetering. If, if, he shot that dude, what, 10 years ago? Over 10 years ago. Over 10. Way over 10. Dog, he might be a whole different man than he was 10 years ago. Right? So, that's one thing. I don't know these niggas. So, they make a shirt that says, yo, I'm a whole different man than I was 10 years ago. Because I'm with Mark. These niggas clock out whenever the fuck they want to clock out. I'm talking about the fact that he got sober. So, I feel like him getting sober. He has carried himself. He was a Serb drinking, chit-talking. He working out. Bro, he's carried himself. And he's publicly said that I'm a different man than I was back then. He's a different person. He's handling himself in a business forum way different than they used to carry themselves. And I'm not the biggest Gucci fan or know about them. What I'm saying is that as a black man, to Mark's point, that we got to come to a point sometimes where we not really condoning some of this tomfoolery. What's tomfoolery? Wait, you know I ain't condoning. I'm not condoning from Pooh Shiesty. I don't think there are winners in this situation. It's not. And so, again, I'm not ratting on nobody. I'm not telling on nobody. I'm standing on that. I might. What'd he do? But I'm not trying to involve myself. So, you're not telling on nobody. Yeah, depending on what he did. You have plenty of time to tell on niggas. You ain't telling on niggas. Stop it. No, no. Stakes are high now. You look in your account and then see certain numbers missing and you know who did it or who cracked your shit. You're going to jail, buddy. Yeah, you're going to jail. So, my point to that is. You're going to jail now. I don't try to put myself in no shit where I got to be in nobody's room. I don't even want to know. So, when I go in a room, if they pull me in a room, I could be like, no, I don't know. Put my fingers on what. I don't know. But if you do know and you are playing the game to most point, like, yo, dog, you can't get in there and rat. I don't know if he's no street nigga. We characterizing him as a street nigga. He might have been left street shit alone a long, long time ago. It seems like he took a blood oath. And I see a lot of niggas that are street niggas. Let's be the fuck clear. I see a lot of niggas. That's bonafide street niggas that have put in work in the streets, that have made mad money in the streets. When they get to a couple hundred million dollars, that shit goes out the window, bro. Yeah. You're not. Yeah. Name some. No, no. I can name a bunch. You can name way more than it go out the window. You're not catching them doing that. You're wrong. So, name them. No. I'll tell you off camera, though. Yeah, like, what are y'all talking about? Listen, and then when it comes, because you said, like, is it a time thing with the streets? I think that in certain situations, like, gangsters, bloods, crips, and all that, it's different rules. It's different rules to whether you can get in. I don't even know if you're allowed to leave, but just regular street shit, I just think it's a certain amount of time, and it's the actions that you take. So, if you make certain moves, and you're not making any money in the street, which most of the time means you got a square job, you have a business, you know what I mean? You're podcasting. Everybody know the difference, because, shut up. Everybody know the difference, because you're always in your laundry, man. You're always in your soul food spot. It's a difference than when you was outside. Okay. Right? And this is a real, real, real question to everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All your questions. All your questions are real. No, it's the people outside. Let's say you were in the streets, right? Yeah. But you're no longer in the streets. Yes, sir. Niggas came in your office, they set up a meeting, they put the bangers to your head. You don't want to kill them, but you do want some- Justice. Recourse. You're not going to go outside, strap up and kill them. You're not going to pay nobody to go kill them, but you do want recourse. What do you do in that instance? I can't answer that. I know I can't answer that. Because the only answer is the answer. Right. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm not with that. I'm not saying- I'm not taking the route that y'all think I'm taking. No, I'm not answering that. All right, no. I mean, we'll figure it out when we figure it out. Let me throw Gucci some bail on that same point. We'll figure it out when we figure it out. It wasn't like Gucci had to call 911 to get help. Why? That's another thing that's been knocking on it. These niggas already- It's on camera. But that's why he was supposed to- And do it at an angle. I mean, like, he didn't have to do shit. But that's why he was supposed to shut up and not put the song out. Right. Because now, you are sitting in the song saying, yo, I was under duress. Yeah. To some niggas, you are ratting. Yeah. You are saying, yo, I was under duress. If Gucci Mane would have just shut up, not put nothing out, and said, yo, the court is going to handle it. I ain't say shit to nobody. I feel you on that. And shut the fuck up. Then he had mad niggas in the room. Like, it was executives in that room. Some of them niggas don't play by those street rules. And there might have been some undercover cops. 911? Yeah, this is check. So when you say you're a street nigga, is it a behavior or is it actual activity? It's a life that you live. In my opinion, it's money-based. Like, I mean, of course it's violence. You can't say you're not a street nigga, but still, if somebody bothers you, you shoot them. That's the first thing you do. But to me, it's money-based. Once you get to the point where you can make money legally, then you can say you're not in the fucking street. I don't even know why I'm going back and forth, because that's what the fuck it is. I think they might be distinct. We're talking about embodying the principles and morals of the street lifestyle. We're not talking about being in the street. We're talking about, yo, this is how I was. Hold on, hold on. So we're street adjacent. This is how, yeah, I guess. This is how I was raised. This is what was taught to me, and this is what I live by. You're reformed. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. A person that's reformed, but they still operate with that sort of ethos. You know, how many niggas we know that came home from jail, right, that did a lot of years that were street niggas that come home and they preach positivity, but they still have the principles and morals that they had when they were in the streets. They're not doing none of that shit. They're not talking to no police. They're not doing anything like that. But you still call them a street guy. And we may be wrong for that, but yeah, I still call them a street guy. Can I ask a question to that, to what you just said? Yeah. So when you say they still have the same principles and morals, and of course that means they don't speak to the police, but beyond that, do that mean if they have an issue with a nigga, they kill him? Exactly. They pop him? Like, what are we talking about? She going right where I was going to go. What are we talking about? That same nigga that you just talked about that's reformed, that preaches positivity. We need a fifth nigga. We're not answering y'all questions. I can answer you. No, wait, wait, wait. I'm going to answer you. They never put themselves in a position to be in a situation like that. You're still not answering the question. You ducked the question. Somebody snatch a chain. The question is, the same nigga that just came home from doing 30, that stands on this. Yes. Cool. Let somebody do something to them or their family. What happens? Okay. I'm going to put some money on his head and get him done. Okay. Because that's what I was born into. And we just seen a nigga that just came over, four niggas that came over, doing 25 years and just killed somebody and went back. So it happens. And we call them idiots. That's a problem. It is. So it's what side of the fucking pole you on. And that's why I said I'm teetering the line. Why are we teetering? This is the shit. It's crazy to me. Only in this culture, not only in this culture. I don't pathologize black people. I'm saying only in unhealthy cultures is that a thing that we should be. Because I get the teeter. I'm not criticizing ish. I'm saying when fucked up shit happens, my instinct is not to call the police too. And I don't call the police. Yeah, you go to the trunk. I'm with you. you that's what you do that's some unhealthy shit so teach yourself i'm saying it's fucked up i'm saying we're all fucked up this is some unhealthy shit that we're literally saying well if somebody busts my house smack my kids steal my tv set my house on fire i don't know what to do i'm in a quandary i can either i can either get him taken away or i could kill him and go to jail and look i don't trust the police i don't believe in police i'm an abolitionist it's not like i'm saying we need new solutions but i'm saying the healthy response is not to go kill people and like now and all the shit that's happened this last thing i said well all this shit is happening in the streets all this happened with gucci and push ice and all that shit most of the smoke i see on the internet is for the dude that made a song about getting getting robbed and not the dude that did the robbing that's just fucked up to me crazy that's some unhealthy that's some sick shit what do you think people want to gucci to do like that's the thing that i'm saying shut up they want to say nothing just say nothing yeah but before you say nothing just say nothing before you say nothing before the song like it's already caught y'all trying to paint gucci like takashi no exactly that's what it's starting to sound like he did a whole he did a whole live and said i'm not calling the police i don't think the police no hold on he did a live said i'm not calling the police nigga i don't believe in police i put money on your head nigga i'm coming to get it myself it's alive niggas on the internet how long ago why he was in the pool while he was skinny how long ago last year or this year what do we want gucci to do if he's a civilian act like a i'm saying it's as if i don't give a fuck about all it as a civilian i'm saying he looks absolutely nuts but if you are a civilian nigga be a civilian yeah y'all that's the part where i'm y'all losing me at he's a rapper so if i'm already in this if i'm already if i'm already i don't know why we acting like gucci man not that i don't know if y'all not gucci fans i'm a fan i'm just saying that song oh okay the song because i'm starting to like get that like gucci ain't him in here and that's very that's a good song i'm just calling this song that's just a song that's just a song okay i was making sure yeah um because yes the song is ass i think the song is ass because i'm rapping it with him on the first time i hear it that's why i thought it was ass first second y'all are confusing me because if i'm in a rap game right and i make money of being a rapper yes i'm going to get his gangster image that's what rappers do a persona right now today if one of them niggas that give against your image came and court a case that got in trouble we will all be dogging him for what for risking his life and all this other bullshit bobby schmurda and all that mind you niggas rap drag niggas like bobby schmurda when i really believe that when you push in like that you don't think you're gonna make it so yes you talking shit in these songs because you don't think the song gonna get that big where people gonna put it together in that b i'm gonna be listening stupid still people forget that part right if why can't he still stay in the same game stay with the same gangster image and be a civilian that's almost like y'all acting like the reason being that he's signing it now what joe said about laying with pigs you get hurt that totally makes sense because even with scarring and they died the same way you know what i mean so it's like yeah you're not even looking for people that's on the up and up but again it's his job like don't ask what we doing right we but i i think the one issue people have is that if you if you want to just rap be a rapper a performer a persona and keep a street image then you don't make a song like this with it because it's dry snitching yeah i would agree with you you could just say nothing that which i i just hearing the song itself i wish she had said nothing gucci's probably under a lot of pressure to say something right and he probably some of his internal so sometimes you just want to say something like all this shit is happening you embarrassed you mad you want you want revenge sometimes all you got and all you got is that booth because you're not gonna kill nobody and you don't want to call the police what the fuck i mean it was still a bad choice but i at least understand how his mind got him there i just wish he made a difference i don't understand how you made the song pack that nigga up i would i would have never made my only thing is the song sucks okay it is terrible i think whatever he thought it was going to do is doing the opposite you know what i mean it's not it's not it's not he turned the comments off but i also think that he was he turned the comments off yeah it's never it's never good when you got to cut the comments also that's pussy shit leave them on again i don't do that i don't cut my comments you cut the comments off after all of that get him the fuck out of here man the truth was a hard i don't want to hear none of this gucci i don't i'm off it all right remember the truth yes the nigga that made that this record you know what moan is right it got to be like skinny luther and fat luther now seriously because the nigga that made that this record he was and the nigga that made this this record yeah gucci it's not the same person we're not about to do that original gucci or get fat gucci especially we both agree that when rappers are addicted to drugs and totally fucked up that's their best shit most of the time yeah like i want you to get better not really you know what i mean i love fucked up kodak that's my favorite kodak i thought him having the fucking the the rights to pooh he would rap less and they didn't want to hear this nigga rap no i don't i don't he's not trying to make the other side win joe that's all are those numbers floating around real about how much he made off who's sheisty total i don't know i have no idea i have no idea what was the fake number 28 million or something i could see it i don't know it was huge i could see it yes really pulling them was killing it at first i'm telling y'all and that's the thing that's so frustrating with pooh sheisty because that first day out went crazy you ain't even chill and let it or even i'm sorry i'm gonna cut you off you see that's why i can't compare him and bobby smurda right bobby smurda was niggas in the streets that got a deal was still living in the streets no no no but you was like niggas looked at nobody looked at bobby smurda made fun of him when he went to jail like you said niggas looking at him stupid nobody did that pooh sheisty niggas look at him like that because nigga you just came home you just came home you haven't even been home for about two months and you fucking go there with your ankle monitor and do that we have to look at him different like nigga either you just don't give a fuck or you just he went with his dad he was raised fucked up let me tell you in in closing yeah in closing because we've been at this for a second yeah we have for me this is how i know that gucci is not the same person i don't care where i am and what if i'm ordering a pizza and pooh sheisty calls me to say let's meet up for a meeting i'm going to get 300 people and 300 guns or you're gonna just go get the hired police security that your new found success and business acumen not two of them told you to go i'm not going we're having a team meeting not two of them zoom see that's the other thing yeah word we will be on motherfucking zoom don't get on the song talking all this big money big money shit and you got two security guards no off-duty police officers if pooh sheisty hit me to go i would go round up as many niggas as i could possibly find yeah these niggas are nuts man it's crazy i love apples rise and fall of them they whole squad done there's a lesson in this for everybody i hate all of this urban shit because all of the black labels and all that shit we see go through inner turmoil that'd be fucked up yeah and and all the white niggas just do is reap the benefits i wouldn't say all there's some successful ones that really don't happen yeah maybe not as many as we'd like to see but yeah i just hate that all the fucked up ones happen not all but a lot of the fucked up ones happen with us there's a lot of successful ones that don't i just hate like you said how many how disproportionate the bad ones are exactly it's just again as i get older 10 years ago i know what i'd be saying something different maybe even 10 months ago but now i just i just can't take it no more i'm just watching this shit and i'm like this is a death culture and we got to do something about it yeah not all the hip-hop people are like that but this genre this strand you know what it was when i seen when i was in philly a couple years ago when when dude was digging up uh my man grave yeah yeah and then he got killed i'm like yo this shit is sick like this ain't even about music no more this shit is just this shit ain't never gonna change though you know he's going now yeah and then kill him that's what i'm saying it's like and then part of you was like well i mean he did do you know and so then you end up in this space where you're starting to justify people dying you tried in the 80s with self-destruction we tried in the 90s with farrakhan this shit ain't gonna work it's always going to work it's always going to work this way unfortunately that's so grim i don't believe that at all i don't believe that's true yeah i don't think so i think things change i think the young because the young people are the future they the ones that change and i think that young people they some of them won't be humans in the music business at some point oh okay if that's your angle cool yeah but i'm i'm i'm aligned with him if you start saying that in hip-hop we're talking about just hip-hop dog they are purposely finding the young boy from the worst of the worst of the worst conditions and signing them to a fucked up deal some some because i don't want to there's dreamville exists tde exists ovo exists fucking griselda even though they might have their own little tiffs here and there exist there's a bunch of people that exist where it's not fucking murder death kill and actually doing it right and it's successful so i don't want to paint like the entire hip-hop is some fucking death it's some shit that'd be going on behind closed doors and a bunch of these labels that niggas don't know about that be related to murder death kill okay but we're talking about the shit that's publicized all right okay cool cool cool cool that's what yo the essence of hip-hop is a street thing and so a lot of times the people from the streets got one foot in one foot out they trying to get a better way but if you cross me i can go right back to where i just left sure in a blink of an eye and so i think that that's the thing and you won't get no hip-hop money no the streets and they're risking it joe We just seen the nigga risk it. - But the streets and music and like always been intertwined, even since like Frank Sinatra, he was connected. He was, he was. But there's levels. I don't, I agree with that. No, no, no, he was, them niggas was connected. No, no, I, I, yeah, Frank was, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, he was, he was Johnny Fontaine from The Godfather. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I get it. I'm not disagreeing with that. But I'm just saying, though, there are levels to it. That's how New York got all that burn. We don't talk about Frank Sinatra. He was, he, he was a pure boy. He was a black man. But he was a pure boy. I'm just saying, even with self-destruction, I mean, I'm old enough to remember when Skylar Rock got killed. I'm old enough to remember when shit was happening in the streets. I know y'all, y'all were too. Skylar Rock got killed. Holy shit. Oh my God. Marvin Gaye too? You heard Lincoln got shot? Don't do that. You heard Lincoln. That's terrible. He's going to be crushed when she hears about MLK. Fuck off. Fuck all of y'all. Y'all, that nigga said, Skylar Rocked. That's funny, y'all. Holy. I don't know what that is. You don't know who Skylar Rock is? Boogie Down Productions. He is super. Yo. He just got in the rock. He got. Anyway, all right. Don't ever play with me ever. Nobody watches Sky, nigga. They always got paid. They would take the wackest song and make it better. You don't. Etta. Etta. We take the wackest song and make it better. Etta. Etta. Remember to let us into your skin. We will begin to master rhyming, rhyming, rhyming, rhyming. Rhyming, rhyming, criminal minded. I got it, I got it, I got it. I'm like looking for a style like, come on, you can't find it. That went crazy. I'm about to do some break dancing. That was so dope. That was super old. Niggas don't know how young Flip is, for real. Niggas don't know how young he is. He's our age. He just still act like it. No, Flip is the youngest. Right. He ain't 25 and shit. Flip is the youngest one up here. Thank you, Mona. I'm sorry, I was making a point. By a year. The point I was making was, I'm old enough to remember these deaths in hip hop. They've always existed. Street shit has always existed. But now, it's to another level, and I think we do ourselves a disservice by acting like it's all the same. Other genres have violence, they have death, they have crime, they got all that shit. Hip hop ain't the only one. But again, I don't want to compare Frank Sinatra, allegedly, potentially having some tie to the La Cosa Nostra, to what we see with the deep gang involvement and involvement that's happening in these cultures. And honestly, even if it was the same, I don't give a fuck what they do. I care about us. The only thing that matters is if they stop signing people that were a fucking liability. If they just stop signing people, meaning you checking their record, if you on probation, because they make more money. It's not a liability. That's the thing. And then we're going to take- What did you just say, B-Dot? We're fucked. It's never going to change. We're all going to die. And then we're going to take insurance out on you. So even when you die, we get more money. That's some real shit right there. The evidence is on B-Dot's side. The odds on B-Dot and this side, it's more likely not to change than to change, but we, have to always go against the odds. We have to always believe. I keep a faith in the people that we can do something different. Me too, Mark. And that's why I'm still hopeful. Yeah. Pack Gucci Man up. That's all sucked. That's the moral of the story. Yeah. That's all. We got it. I wish he had, I wish he had LaRussell's engineer. Oh, shit. He didn't help very much. Well, damn. I know somebody else that's ain't effing sent. Oh, shit. Oh, God. Listen, man. What time is it, Joe? Time to pay some bills. Oh, I thought it was time for eulogy. To the eulogy. We'll get to that. Yeah. Ooh, I got some words. Fresh off the, fresh off the- I can't wait to hear Mark's eulogy. Me too. Me too. It's not what you think it's going to be. I don't, I don't have a thought on it. We're talking about Blondie, right? No, we're talking about African Bambada, nigga. Blondie. When Blondie died? Blondie died, yeah. Wait, Denver Harry? What Blondie died? No, you're talking about y'all, yes, and y'all, y'all, I'm talking about- Blondie didn't die. No, from the beginning. From the rap? Never mind. Go to, go to your favorite part of the show, I'll tell you. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize Picks! We're lost in translation. All right, shoot your shot on Prize Picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right, Prize Picks is now giving you $50 in lineups when you sign up and play your first $5. Prize Picks makes every dunk, every dime, every board that much more exciting, so don't miss out on the chance to get started on America's number one app for sports picks. Prize Picks is really easy and simple to play. 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Again, don't forget to download Prize Picks right this second and use promo code J-B-P to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on Prize Picks, where it's good to be right. I just want to point out. I did. My first Prize Picks yesterday. Hey. Hey. Welcome to the club. Yes. I'm feeling really good about myself. I feel like Sam Rothstein and some shit, man. I made it. What took you so long? I want to see if your answer supports my theory about you. It was really just like, it's not available where I live. Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah, so I have to go somewhere to do it. And when I be there, I don't be thinking about it. And I was like, let me do it. You know. You think I'm an addict and I have addictive behavior and I was scared to start? No. No. Because that might be the other answer. No, I think that when you see people getting a lot of money somewhere, like Parks happened to do last week, I think your antennas go up. I mean, that was a reminder. But Corey be winning. I come in early and people be talking about it. Corey and Ian be talking about it. I just always forget. But then I was sitting at the bar yesterday in New York waiting for my food. Sure. Hey, whatever, bro. And I was like, let me open this thing up. Back to addictive behaviors. I mean, let me see what happened, what I could do with Jay. It was like Kevin Durant for over 25 and Jalen Brunson for over six and a half and six. Made me a few stacks. There you go. Oh, shit. Yeah. I was like, are you a hit? Yeah. Yeah. Malcolm going to have a good birthday. You hit off the first try? No, he not. And my wife don't listen to this much of the podcast. Yeah. Damn, Mark. Yeah, I did pretty good. What'd you do last week? Nothing. That's crazy. More than me. Big Moan. 40K. What the fuck up? Where's my gotcha? He's lying. Not by a lot. I'm not lying. This is where I guess he's trying to see what you can do next. I wouldn't put his business at it, but not by a lot. I wouldn't put his business out. He's lying. Right after I put his business out. Well, I'm going to be taking my little trips a little more often now. 25K. You're trying to get this bottom. I get it. I'm telling you off air. You told me off air. Oh, I did. Okay. He hit. Hit. Look at him. That nigga did look different this morning. I said, damn, what is it about you? Some prospects. I thought it was the powder chain. It's some new gel. Got to get the good shit. The good shit. Get the good shit now. Some new gel. I went to the mall a couple days ago and finally stopped by the young black kid's booth that I curse out every time. Every time I go. Every time I go there. Joe support. $25. Why you doing that to them niggas? Stop. They keep looking. Stop. Get the fuck out of my face. Why you keep doing it to them niggas? Hey, leave me. Would you leave me alone when I walk by? I would say that to these niggas at least. Yeah, they got a video of it. 29 times, right? I thought these niggas would sell like shoes or some shit. It's a cleaner. No. No. They got socks. I bought a socks. No, no, no. These people. I'm talking about right outside of the Apple store in the mall. They got all types of black shea butter mixed with pineapple mango. Man, I bought that whole fucking booth. That shit work. It's good too. What does that teach us, ladies and gentlemen? Stay down until you come up. Or until you run into Joe. I know. It's true though because in his comments this bitch was like, oh, I'm all for you. You're always at the mall I work at. But the shea butter might work differently on you. Oh, God. My skin better, right? My shit glow more. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's cool. All right, come on. Let's stay on jail business, right? Ah, fuck. Rest in peace, K-Slay. Fuck indeed. You just made me sad the whole episode. Lock in. Reminded me of the period of time. Like, God damn it. K-Slay. He's been passed away, right? K-Slay died, Mona. I knew that. Rest in peace, the legend. My man. Did he? Yes, he did. Oh. Oh. Not did he, did he. I see. Hey, y'all running from me, y'all. All right. Nobody said nothing. Y'all running from me. You be trying to, yeah, I'm one of your lords. Y'all running from it, yo. What are we running from, Cliff? He's running from the eulogy. This nigga mucking on my hell game, bro. I'm not running from the eulogy. We talking about jail shit. I mean, which I guess could connect. Yeah, exactly. A nigga that avoided jail. Yeah, we can get to it, but I want to talk about Diddy first. Puff lawyers are fouling for him to be released immediately under the grounds of he was in there just doing adult sex stuff. First and foremost, it's deeper than that. They basically said that he was convicted based on the rules of the Mann Act, which basically was an act that they kind of implemented to stop Jack Johnson and all of the black entertainers, really from fucking white chicks. That was really what they were trying to stop him from doing. It was Jack and Johnson. All right, stop, nigga. Come on, stop. Yo, dog, stop, man. So basically, I think his lawyers and what they said kind of made sense. It's basically saying that he was flying in whomever he flew in for acts that were not based on commercial purposes because they said that one of the stipulations is based around commercial purposes. So he like, yo, we was just doing this shit on some personal shit. It wasn't like he was selling this shit. We were like packaging it up and releasing it for profit. Here's what his lawyers said. Freak-offs and hotel nights were nightly choreographed, I'm sorry, highly choreographed sexual performances involving the use of costumes, role play, and stage lighting, which were filmed so Combs and his girlfriends could watch this amateur pornography later. Pornography production and viewing of this sort is protected by the First Amendment and thus cannot constitutionally be prosecuted. You can just be hiding behind that First Amendment, yo. Yo, listen, loophole is a loophole. My thing is this, like, even for commercial purposes, it kind of didn't make sense when I started reading about it because if that's the case, if you live in New York and you fly to L.A. to shoot some porn and they wrap it up and they sell it, what's the difference, kind of? No one likes porn with condoms on, Mish. Carry on. Where condoms came from? Wrap it up. Carry on. No, I'm just saying, so like, it was a fine line to me on how you want to interpret the law. I'm not saying Puff ain't a piece of shit, or I don't feel like digs, niggas, but what I'm saying is when you start adhering to the letter of the law, his lawyers have a very good case. Do you think they try to make an example out of Puff because his lawyers said this is the most time anyone's ever been convicted of with similar history? For those charges, yes. Like, for him to have gotten four years for those charges, that was already, to me, not just. Amateur porn is a tough argument. It's a creative argument, and if I were him, I'd want my lawyer. I'd want my lawyer making it, and if I were the lawyer, that's probably the best argument you could make. I think the question they're going to have to deal with is not was this stuff videotaped, which is a fact, but was the primary purpose of these acts to make amateur pornography, or were they doing sex acts that just happened to get videotaped? Because for Puff's lawyer's argument to hold, to obtain, it would mean that basically all this shit was being done so that we could make this production. Isn't the prostitution the thing? Yes. The soliciting is a thing. The cross-state lines is a thing. The state lines was the thing. Unless I'm hiring them as actors to be, or performers to be in my porn. Commerce has to be exchanged, right? And this is where it gets tricky. That's where it gets tricky, right? Because if I pay you to be in a, not you, if I pay a person, no, I do way better. If I were to pay Idris, if I'm paying you to be in part of this amateur porn, then it's a different argument. It's a creative argument. I just don't know if the court's going to buy it. But who's the determining factor? They've said, even in the court cases, that they would go back and look at what they did. Him and Shorty would go back and watch the tapes. So he can now say, even document it, that me and my girl would go back and watch the sex tapes. But then is every time someone has sex on videotapes, is that always amateur porn by definition? That's the question I'm trying to get. Again, that's what I'm saying. It's just the personality. It's the person that is ingesting the facts and determining whether they tell. If you and your wife make porn and y'all go back and watch it later on, cool, let's say you and your wife decided to hire a chick or hire a dude to join y'all and y'all go back and watch it later on, who's to say that that's not amateur porn that y'all are enjoying at a later time? But I think the issue is still. If at a later time my wife says, hey, that's not what was happening, I was being forced, I was being coerced, I didn't want to do some of these. I was doing these things, I was being. Like, if your wife contradicts what you're saying, then what? Which is what the testimony has been. Just for curiosity, I went to the wiki page and the entry says in July 2nd, 2025, he was found guilty of two counts of transportation for the purposes of prostitution. If you're hiring prostitutes for a porn, you're still hiring prostitutes, no? No, but hold on. If I'm hiring them for the porn, then it's not prostitution. Why? Because they're actors. They ain't got no sad cards. It's only prostitution if I'm not doing a porn. Yes. Okay. But then it's like, well, what's the testimony of the sex workers? Are they saying, hey, I was hired to do amateur porn, or are they saying I was hired to fuck? That's a good point. And that's what I'm saying. It's going to be hard to. It's a good creative argument. I just don't know if it's contradicted by the testimony. The sex workers have already testified that. Yeah, they rocking with them. And they testified to Puff. And a couple of them are now suing Shorty. Okay. Right? So some of the sex workers are saying. And a few more are suing him, too. Suing Puff? Yeah. I didn't know. I know some of them are suing Cassie. A couple of the male sex workers are suing him. I know some of them are suing. A couple of the dudes are suing Cassie. But also some of the dudes said, I've never spoken to Puff. I've never had any interaction with Puff. I've only spoken to Cassie. Cassie's the person that hired me, not Puff. Right. So that's what they're saying. So to your point, when you're saying now you go back and say, yo, I didn't want to do these things. Now it's. Like, I'm not saying. I'm not taking a side. I'm just being objective and saying, yo, I never spoke to this man. I got hired by her. She's saying she enjoyed these things. She's publicly said she enjoyed the freak-offs and was having freak-offs even when Puff wasn't there. Okay. It's a gray line. That's all I'm saying. It's a gray line. It's something to argue. And sometimes reasonable doubt is enough to get me the fuck out of here and impose some gray lines. I got a question. It would be better to try out on a reasonable doubt as opposed to now. It should have been. I got a question. Is this. Because the first thing I'm thinking, as a civilian myself, the first thing I'm thinking is, well, where did this come from? Why didn't they just use this to. You know, this angle while they were at trial. But, of course, the answer I'm thinking is they were already going to plan to appeal as many times as they can, and this is just their first shot at appeal. Yeah, I think this is a better argument for appeal probably than at trial. That's my sense. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to. But based on what I've heard lawyers say about this particular situation, that seems to be the argument. I've also heard lawyers say in the last 24 hours that this is a strong argument. They're not saying it's going to win, but they're saying, like, if you're going to appeal, this is a good one. I don't think. Any argument he presents is going to win just because of how I feel they feel about him. Like, you turned down the $50 million bail nine times. I don't feel like we don't want you out of here. Agreed. But the appellate court may have a different disposition. That's true. Because, you know, at different courts, sometimes you have a conservative justice, sometimes you have a liberal justice, sometimes you might have somebody who was on the bad boy tour. You never know. Like, you may look up and get the right judges for your appeal. You just don't know. And some people are about the procedure and the letter of the law. As opposed to. Any emotional bias that you may have based on seeing him beat up Cassie. I think all of those things played a part in him not getting exonerated. And I also think they played a part in his sentencing. Yeah, agreed. Like, that's the bigger thing. Like, you can go find niggas that really pimp for a living and they don't get four years in jail fed time for their first offense. Yeah, this was. I'm talking about niggas that wake up putting their foot in the. They don't get that. So I think a lot of bias played a part in his sentencing. So you might get the right, again, appellate court judge that just goes by the letter of the law and let him go. It wouldn't shock. I don't. Or give some of his time back. What he did? He's done over a year and a half already. Yeah. Maybe two years. It's going on two years. That was the upside of not coming home on bail all that time. I think that he still has a harder way to go than a regular person because he's rich as fuck and he's black on top of the fact of him being famous. So it's like. Just like y'all saying, some judges are this way, some judges. So that way, some judges just see rapper. Just see black man. Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, so. And they won't care. What are y'all predictions? You think he wins this or no? Nope. Nah. I think he comes home. I think they eat some of the time. I think. I was about to look to see when he got locked up. They could potentially give him time served. If he did two years. Hell no. He could get time served. He only got sentenced to four years. Time served when he walk out that day at court. Yes. Yeah, come on. He was arrested September 2024. Yeah. So it was about a year and a half. Yeah, he got a year and a half. He pushed it two years. That time is flying. Yeah, it is. That's what everybody not in jail say. Time sure is flying. Bro, September 2024. I'm sure he don't feel that way. He got sentenced to 48 months? 40 months? Whatever his sentence was. Wait a minute. That's when he got sentenced or that's when he got locked up? When he got arrested. That's what we talking about. He been locked up for a year and a half. He ain't never locked. Boy, that time do go slow in jail, boy. Yo, C.O., what time is it? 10, 12. C.O., what time is it? Yo, you go to sleep. 10, 15. Yo, you go to sleep. 10, 16. You wake up thinking you had the best nap in the world. 11, 05, man. You just asked me. You're like, damn. What the fuck? I thought I was some. Bullshit. Everybody not like you, nigga. You had a lot of connections when you got locked up. Had the phone in there. Had the food. We heard about you, boy. It was a long weekend. And I wouldn't be surprised if you was chilling after you came home. Yo, you looked out for me. So when I come home, I'm going to shout you out on the pod. I know your tricks. On the pod. Damn, he would. Him and Ice be selling pod shout outs. Yeah. He started doing that. Yo, shout out to the CEO. We know your tricks. Yo, you never kept in touch with Shorty that when you got locked up at the pod and you was like the sheriff or whoever that was. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. He kept in touch. He was cool with the water. He got her gram. Look. You got locked up in the pod, Jess. That's my son. You a dirty bitch. Look at this. After they talking, I just, I don't know. Catch him on up. Yeah, I'm ignoring these guys. Ignore. It's important. Yo, you got the Sheriff Graham. The Sheriff Graham, God. Like, why? This nigga is nuts. This nigga is nuts. Why? You plan on getting locked up again? Yo, I can't. Can we? We got a broadcast. I don't like shit like that. You're right. He ain't been locked up since. He ain't been locked up since, boys. Oh, I just haven't committed any crime since. That's not true. That's not true. I don't want to be blad, but. Anyway, come on. More gel. More gel. Come on. Y'all twisted my arm a little bit on the puff shit. This Matthew Perry shit, I'm standing strong. Lock that. This is a quick hit. It's pretty interesting. Let's do it. Eric Adams is now Albanian. Come on. Congratulations. All right, come on, Mark. I called you Mark, though. You can't tell him how he identifies. What the fuck are we talking about? He's been granted citizenship by Albania. Okay. Well, go Eric Adams. That's always important. You do be in them hookah spots. Get them multiple passports ready. Amen. He was telling that bitch on Delta off, boy. Oh, he was? Yeah. He said, I ain't the mayor no more, mama. Come on, more jail shit. The lady that drugged and killed Matthew Perry got- What? From Friends. Matthew Perry from Friends got 15 years. I think she should have got more. Ish thinks she should have got less, and we're about to fight about it. Is the lady that went to jail the doctor, or is she the middleman for the doctor? She's just a dealer. I think she was a dealer. Oh, they got the dealer. A street pharmacist. I thought they were going after the doctors. They're cracking down on the dealers these days. I've read the book. No, they're cracking down on dealers if you are responsible for some white, black, famous person being killed. They're not cracking down on dealers that killed Ray Ray and Kit Kat over there in the Bronx or North. Ray Ray died? Also, ketamine has been found to be useful in a lot of situations. Therapeutic, people getting off drugs with ketamine, people curing depression with ketamine. I don't know. I watched a documentary about somebody getting their kid ketamine in Mexico, and that was the only thing that was helping them. I don't know. I read Matthew Perry's book. I don't say that. We're out here. You're not allowed to read books? No. No, I mentioned it. Not memoirs. Not that Brandy fiasco last week. No, not in a day like a geek. Who wrote a book in a day? Mark. Mark read five books a week. Will it take you a day to read? Yes. But Matthew Perry. Goodwill Hunt, that's Nick. How about them apples? Hey, yo. Hey, yo, Papa, I hope you're proud. I'm reading. My dead father. Oh, shit. I hope you're proud. You playing with his family? No, I apologize. He playing with my family. Wow. You playing with my family? That's a new low. Damn, yo. Mark, I said real shit. Wait, that's what you was doing? No. Oh, shit. I did it. Damn. Mark, I didn't say that. It's okay. Nah, because you're going to play a mod. That would be a check. So stop. You played my wife. Hit me up, too. Heard what you said. Stop it, man. No, she didn't. Yes, she did. She watched. Oh, that's what's up. Why are you letting niggas feel like you're not coming home? Yeah. Where was you at when she told you that? Now. My wife hit me up. Hit you in the ass? Exactly. I want to ask you, before this topic continues, are you of the belief that the same resources used to find the killer of Matthew Perry should be the same resources used to find the killer of Ray-Ray and Kit-Kat? Absolutely. I think for justice to be carried out equally is not a bad thing. And not something that is a farce. But a drug dealer, though? Ideally, ideally, I'm not, I live in the real world. I'm saying that ideally, if you're going to expend these resources for this human being, the same resources need to be expended for that human being. Oh, just ideally. Yeah. That's what creates all the inequities that we face today. All lives matter, Joe. When I first got in the streets at 14 years old, one of the very first lessons, not for me, was if you're going to kill a motherfucker, kill somebody that motherfuckers ain't looking for and don't care about. Yeah. That was one of the first things they told me. So why would I think that Matthew Perry resources is going to be used for the crackhead and the baby? That just seems silly to me. No, what I'm saying is- It should. It should. What I'm saying is- It should. Yes. It should. These are tax-paying citizens, and so I think that it should be distributed accordingly. But my ping pong I want to have with you, I think that this is the case. I think your statement is true. I just think it's- True for famous people. Yeah. I think there's a crossroads where it can get racial, but for the most part, I think it's a famous people thing. Michael Williams drug dealers, they got them niggas in a week. That is true. They found them. They did. And served them up. Mac Miller drug dealers. That one took a little longer. Yeah. But- The dude from- Packed them up. The dude from Mission Impossible, he lived- You keep saying, who was that? The white dude. The white dude. Parks, the white-haired white guy. I forgot his name. He was pretty good. I thought it was Philip Seymour, but I don't think that it is. Pretty good actor. He's been in a few things. But my thing is just this. Like, yo, and you're giving somebody 15 years. 15 years is a lot. That's a lot of time. By the way, the doctor who they got last December got, I think, like 18 months or- Yeah, like dog. In what case? For Matthew Perry's doctor. I knew the doctor. Matthew Perry's doctor also was convicted- That's what I just asked y'all. In December of 2025, and I think they got- I could tell you, but- Probably ratted on short. It was no more than 18 months. Somewhere between 16 and 18 months. So the lady's name- Because legally you can get that kind of shit, too. The lady's name is Jasveen Senga. Yeah. Quote, unquote, the ketamine queen. Yeah. That's all the title. She got to go. You got a nickname? Yeah. Back her up. Yeah. And Salvador Plasencia is the physician who gave him ketamine. He actually got 30, excuse me, it was 30 months in prison. See, I would feel, I would go against Ish if it was like tainted ketamine, if it was fentanyl or something in there. But if it's- What he ordered, and he took too much of it. He should have read this- 15 sounds very excessive. He should have read this- I don't think he did. But ordered from who? If you're ordering from the street dealer and you overdose, they're coming to get the street dealer. Oh, they coming to get y'all. Oh, yeah. I just want to say it's a little excessive. This just shouldn't be illegal is the problem. If you poison the drugs, I think you should get 15. Because now you're lying. You're killing me. Like if I sell you a Colt 45 and a Colt 45 got some fent in it, you don't know you taking fent. I think- I'm freestyling, but I'm pretty sure Mac, rest in peace, was either coke or pills that had fentanyl in it. They fucked him up, yeah. That's extremely fucked up in my opinion. That was Michael K. Williams too. Also, but you know what? I remember at first it was this thing where people would be selling drugs and it would be fake drugs and they would cut it with fentanyl, right? But then it became a thing where- They want the fent. People are selling drugs and it's fentanyl and they know it's fentanyl. They know it, they want it. So whether it's like a fake Xanax- Xanax or a fake Percocet, they still know that it's fentanyl because it's half the price and this person never runs out, right? So it's like that changed. In the beginning, people were overdosing that way and people's family members would be like, oh, we're going to fuck them up. Who sold them this? Now, people kind of know that these motherfuckers are addicted to the shit they wanted. Yeah, stepped on. It's not even stepped on. Man, stepped on. It's a market for that. Yes, they are- Where there are pills, where there are certain drugs in, the ingredients, fentanyl, and you want it. And that is- And the people are aware of that? Aware, sure. I thought it was the younger people. It's almost like, it ain't an age thing. It's almost like you would have a pill block that people get from Rite Aid, but then it's a pill block of all fentanyl. And people go to that pill block because that's cheaper than the Rite Aid block. Now, also, sometimes, I think that's true. I think some people choose. Yeah, but I also do think sometimes it's just like, oh, this guy's got good fucking perks. That's what I do. Not knowing that it's fentanyl in there. I just know he's got some fire shit. And I want more. Like, they might not be asking, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Niggas be lacing niggas with fentanyl. That's what I'm telling you. Everybody's not aware that there's fentanyl in there. It used to, but this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I heard what you're saying. There was a time where it was a laced thing. I just think that nowadays, as more people know what the fuck is going on, they're buying it. It's cheaper. They want it. It's not a trick. Oh, I don't know. Niggas know. I don't think Shorty shouldn't go to jail. Like, be clear, I'm not saying that I don't think she should go to jail. I'm saying that 15 years. How do you kill a nigga from Friends? Matt was a monster. I read that man. He was a monster. I don't want to be. He was. I don't want to be. Wait, Matthew Perry was a monster? Matthew Perry was a drug addict, and drug addiction causes you to be a monster sometimes. Matthew Perry discovered drugs early on in his career, and it got worse and worse and worse. When he was on Friends, when Friends was at the height, he was fucked up. You can see it. They was high. Look how skinny he was. They was covering him up. And most of the people that worked there and that ran shit knew it, but that show was that big that you could not take him off. You could not replace him. Okay, for me, if you call somebody a monster, I need more than they did. Yeah, I did. We'll understand. He was high. Was he just doing cocaine? No, it wasn't no cocaine. He was like an opiate person, like a pill person. A pill pop. He would do a lot. Alcoholism. Was he doing terrible things? Yeah, had there been any reports of sexual assault? I'm sorry. When I should have said a drug-eating monster. She mean like a fiend. Not like that. Not a bad person. But things that come with drug addiction, cheat on your girl, whatever, you fucking, you having fun, you partying, regular shit. You know? Not like a. Let me take that back. Yo, y'all calling a nigga a fiend and a monster. That seems out of pocket. They're not equivalent. He was home. Chilling in the hot tub. Trying to get high. Okay. I'm not calling him a monster. Yeah, I've heard of worse ways to get high. Word. Yeah. So what do you think the time should be? Like, not 15. I say zero. I think it depends on what your. Mark, shut your mouth. I'm serious. I'm with Mark, actually. I think you should be charged like a drug dealer. Like, I think it should be uniformity across the board. Like, I don't think that you should get more time based on what person used your drugs and their level of success. I think drugs should be legal. I think they should be legal. I don't think nobody should get time for that. Why are people. I'm providing you a service. You want this. You don't want to go to the ghetto. You don't want to walk around all these people. I'm coming to the crib real quick. Sometimes we smoke a blunt together. I sell you a little drugs. I know the kids. It's simple shit. Get some head. I know your mom. What? What the fuck is Mark talking about? Niggas get head for their dealers. Niggas get head for them. Mark, did you just say get some head? I might have. I might have. Oh, my God. So I'm delivering this man powder and sucking his dick. No. No, I wouldn't. Some of the dealers get your head. Bro, I never heard no motherfucking drug dealer. I'm going to go sell a dick sucker at the same time. Fuck y'all. Where the fuck you at? That's that bullshit. You're the only girl. If anybody else was saying it, if fucking Ish was selling his back in the day drug, so y'all wouldn't say, oh, did you suck a titty too? So you're not big on customer service. He did suck a titty. Fuck off. He did suck titties. I'm sure he did. That fucking chain is getting to your fucking head. Mona, this nigga was dropping off clothes and knocking it off. How much you want? Nigga, what a Google review. There's no woman drug dealer that's giving up pussy. That's the case. You're just going to sell pussy. Yeah, his name in the streets. His name is Muddy, boy. Yo, you heard about the landlord that give head? You heard about the nigga that give head? I haven't heard. They ain't heard a peep. You crazy as hell. Now, they found mad shit in the shorty crib. They said they found thousands of pills that included meth, cocaine, and Xanis. She's a drug dealer. She's a drug dealer. Look, if people want to get high, let them get high. I don't support criminalizing that stuff, and I don't support. I think we actually create a market that makes it more violent and more dangerous. We know it doesn't work. That's where the violence comes in. We know the way we handle drugs in this country and what it does and how it does. So, it's like at this point, we know that people that are addicts should get treatment. Now, we still don't know that people that sell drugs need treatment, too. That part is still fucked up, but it's like things that we've done in the past do not work. That's a fact. Niggas used to go to jail. Niggas used to come have a baby, middle of the crack epidemic. Everybody on crack. You go to the hospital, you have a baby. They lock you up, take the baby. It's crack. It just makes no sense. Then they would have all this, the crack baby, the crack baby. They did all these studies. These babies didn't have an issue. Just locking them up for nothing. Destroying the family for nothing. Crazy shit. It doesn't work. Rest in peace, Matthew. You're saying throw the key away. No, not throw the key away. Y'all might have twisted me a little on this one, too. Again, huh? Oh, okay. Because I need to hear more. I think drugs should be legal and regulated so you're getting what you fucking want to get. And maybe you can't buy as much heroin as you will kill. Do they have some stuff like these shops or set up where you can shoot up your heroin now in New York City? I love those. In Amsterdam forever. No, like in New York. You're talking about SIFs. Is that what I'm talking about? Safe injection facilities. That's crazy to me. Well, it is until you think about it a little differently, right? Why? People who, if you don't have a safe injection facility, then people are under bridges doing it. They're sharing work. They're sharing needles. Needles laying around. Without those facilities, getting rid of facilities doesn't stop people from getting high. It just makes people get high. They're unsafe. It's like when people say, if you give out condoms in school, kids are going to be fucking. Kids are always fucking. And it makes people get high in a park where kids are going to be the next day. Exactly. That shit's laying around. On top of the fact, B-Dot, it works in other countries. So we've seen other countries. Them people have safe places to shoot, and that's where they go. But that shit's going to kill you. Right. Didn't you see the commercial? But you're going to get high and die anyway. I've never seen a heroin addict not take heroin because they didn't have a safe facility. And here's the other thing. When you have a safe injection facility, you can also have social workers there, health workers, workers. If you know where the drug addicts are going to be, you can actually treat them and get them off of drugs. That's true. When they're shooting heroin in the ass behind a dumpster, you can't do nothing with that. Y'all ain't going to lie. I forgot how it feels to have Ishmark and Mona together on drug topics. Yeah. Parks is with us, too. They're about to go into the knock conversation. They put knock in the trees. Yeah, you know this. They almost went down. These three boys. They body this shit. Oh, my God. Stupid, yo. Especially Mark. Mark in his bag? You damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's true. That's true. You figured it out. We happy you hit him. You figured it out. You look. I'm telling you, you damned if you do, you damned if you goddamn don't. And I never sucked a dick after I broke somebody some goddamn coke. Fuck. Talk to the people with drug and substance abuse issues. They telling you that motherfucking metal. Shout out to people that are in prison for way longer than they should be. Way longer. People in jail for selling weed. So free her in advance? I don't know, please. Free her in advance? Free her. I don't know about free her, but yeah, free her, actually. I say free her. I'm saying free them all. People in jail for selling fucking weed. Yeah. I don't want niggas to get killed. 20 years. Not free them, Joe? I definitely don't want them to get killed. This lady? I don't know. I'm saving my freeze for somebody that I care about. He's saving his freeze like it's a limited amount. Right. You have unlimited freeze, Joe. No, I don't have unlimited freeze. Why? I don't want unlimited niggas free. Free the sacklers. Yeah, man. Start the keep movement. Free the jails except mystical. Keep mystical. Ain't a bad rule. Yo, you're great. Yeah, freaky ass. Mystical, dangerous. No, keep them locked. Keep the tree jugglers. All the sex guys, you gotta keep them niggas locked up. There's nothing we can do with them. Keep mystical. Those guys. Yeah. You want Pooh Shizzy's danger? I don't want him out. Oh, shit. At least not New Jersey. I don't want him in New England. That's gonna be dangerous. I want them to fuck with me. The East Coast. New England. That's too close. New Rochelle. Right. New Delhi. Fuck this shit. Anyway, I ain't gonna hold you. New Guinea, man. New England. New Guinea, nigga. What the fuck? What the fuck is happening? Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Come on. Shit, now's a good time to get to some of the sexy, freaky topics that we got. Yikes. I know it feels like we did that with the puff shit, but- About to say. I feel like this is what we've been doing this whole episode. We can go to Diana Rossini, or we can go to- Fun or sad? Nick Glazer. Oh, okay. Nicky Glazer. I thought we were talking about the big RIP, because that's also- No, that's not sexy. That's there, too. Actually, yeah. Come on, Mark. The suspension's killing me. Go ahead and do it. There's no suspense. All right, so we got a couple of RIPs that we want to do. You know the one we're waiting on. Yeah. Come on. First, I'm going to give one to Blondie, a hip-hop legend from the group Sequence. Of course, we shouted out and did a RIP to Angie Stone, her bandmate and co-founder. It's been almost a year now that Angie Stone passed? Damn. Already? Time's still flying. I might be wrong about the date, but it's just- It probably has been about a year. It's been about a year, almost. But Blondie was the other- Well, they make up the two-thirds of the group. These are hip-hop pioneers, hip-hop legends. And again, we often don't write Sequence in particular in the hip-hop history, but often early women pioneers in the hip-hop history. So I just wanted to shout out Blondie, who passed away this week. Rest in peace. Rest in peace to her. The big story that everybody's been talking about for the last 24 hours has been the death of Afrika Bambaataa. Indeed. And this may be- It's a complicated one. The toughest eulogy. The toughest eulogy that I've ever had to do up here. Why? You know, the word eulogy, etymologically, the first word, e-u- Yes. Get into your fucking etymological bag. What's wrong with that guy? Think about it, right? I mean, that logos is words, but that u means good. Eulogy is good words. And it's hard to- Who knew that? Mark. I had no idea. It's in books. Fuck you, Mark. All kinds of shit in books. And it's hard to give a eulogy for Afrika Bambaataa. I mean, anybody who knows hip hop knows that Afrika Bambaataa is one of the pioneers. You can't talk about hip hop without talking about Afrika Bambaataa. In 1982, Planet Rock becomes not just a soundtrack to the streets and one of the most important hip hop songs ever made. Some of y'all know it from the City Girls remake. But he really put hip hop on a map in a different kind of way. And even before that, in the late 70s, early 80s, as a DJ, you know, when hip hop was still a local event, when hip hop was still a live event, when the DJ was the centerpiece in some ways more than the MC, he was there as well. You can't talk hip hop without talking Afrika Bambaataa, and you can't talk about hip hop culture without talking about the Universal Zulu Nation. Indeed. By the time you get to the late 80s, early 90s, with like the cultural nationalism of hip hop, when everybody's wearing braids and sarongs and colors, and you got all these groups out there, they owe a debt. Yeah. where it comes from. Yeah, they owe that to the Universal Zulu Nation. That often doesn't get written into the history of hip-hop you know by the time we get to native tongues we've already we're already almost a generation past what universal zulu nation did so africa bambada was the leader of all of that and so under a normal situation we would have started with some band music we would have started with uh you know planet rock and we wouldn't be shouting him out and we'd be pouring out liquor for africa bambada but it's impossible for me for me too yeah right for all of us right with any kind of principle or care to talk about africa bambada um the way we talk about other people in a eulogy because for all the contributions he's made to hip-hop he's also done tremendous harm you know one of the most vocal voices that we've seen and heard is hassan campbell who's come forward to talk about the sexual violence that uh was perpetrated by africa bambada against him he's talked about that that's his story the second worst thing africa bambada did bring us this nigga to never stop talking oh my god i guess i'm fucking oh but but i mean he's he's a lot but that's what untreated trauma looks like sometimes um last year africa bambada lost a civil case by an anonymous accuser for sexual uh abuse and i believe trafficking as well uh but over the course of decades we've heard the stories yeah firsthand accounts not just people who heard something who heard something who heard something but people who come forward and say africa bambada when i was a child harmed me he abused me he you know he did all kinds of things to me and unfortunately too much of hip-hop culture uh has been lionizing him and ignoring the harm even when it's come forward and some of the biggest names in hip-hop history some of the biggest pioneers in hip-hop history have whitewashed that ignored or even said it's not important or it's less important than what bam contributed to um to the culture um and i think that that's a sickness it's not about hip-hop that's just a social collective societal cultural sickness we all ignore the screams of children too often uh and so i don't have a rest in peace for africa bambada uh but i do have uh words of healing and condolences and love and care uh for all the people that he harmed um we'll never forget or write him out of hip-hop history um but we always have to have that asterisk next to it because those children matter far more than any musical contribution very well said thank you mark very well said you smoked that mark yeah you did yeah good job damn i thought we had him i thought we almost had this one idea i thought this one would be a little tricky he smoked the shit out of that he did he smoked the shit out of that shit philly niggas do under pressure just more just more oh well that's enough and i mean judges will make one minor correction you can definitely write them out of the hip-hop story you tell yeah you don't have to include this one bit in a way right but we got to tell the truth yeah we could keep the song and something i don't know it's always tricky with these yeah i didn't lose any sleep last night when did they start when he first started getting started getting accused because i didn't hear nothing so i didn't know so it's interesting so i have a so he he a guy i worked with people from the bronx for a very long time that were kind of aware or heard rumblings or heard stories like you said third fourth fifth party or whatever it's kind of been known for a while at some level they called him a boogeyman out there yeah they called him a boogeyman he had a lot of tough niggas around him he was just doing a lot of nasty shit you know i'm saying at first i heard it was from a guy named b stinger and yeah and he talked about it and um then i heard hassan campbell what you're saying mom the first sign i had was when he he was best friends with the leader of dr york oh yeah oh shit yeah he was full circle when i was in i remember being a kid seeing him a teenager uh and bam came up to the land a couple times in georgia uh and over the last time i saw him because i didn't really know bam i never really i've interacted with him and before i knew the monster stories i saw him uh the national hip was it by political it was somewhere and um he had on the the paraphernalia of the call and we talked for a few minutes maybe like a year or two later i heard he was a guy named b stinger and he was a guy named b stinger and he was a guy uh everything but then i started putting two and two together because dr york didn't have really friends he didn't really kick it with a lot of people gotcha but he kicked it with i'm not and i don't i don't know what to make of that in terms of their specific story yeah but it's a hell of a coincidence right that they would be together kick it together and any stories come out i recorded i recorded bam and maybe oh nine and i did not know about any of this shit yeah so sometime after that i would say especially after what you say with uh dr york because at that point in dr york's life and please correct me if i'm wrong he has the most control because he has his own land like it's his own so you can do what the fuck you want to do there so it's like y'all gonna be friends anywhere it's friends where he's and he's come to that land yep i bet freaky ass niggas that's crazy yeah it is that's some crazy wild shit word yeah that's sick though that's crazy there's no real transition no that's a tough one that's a tough one all right well we're staying with all things kinky okay uh diana russini was seen at an and diana russini is the head nfl analyst for the athletic used to work for espn uh she was seen at an arizona resort hugged up with mike vrabel the head coach for the new england patriots uh and it was a big story released by the times including pictures and yeah that's it that's the story are they both single they're both married oh yeah uh mike vrabel has been married since 99 uh diana russini diana russini has been married since 2020 uh and this is the second time that diana russini's name has been undivided in 2015 uh somebody that worked for him and he's been married for a long time for the redskins the commanders but the redskins then uh their wife accused diana russini of inappropriate behavior with the husband and yada yada yada she later apologized and not diana the wife later apologized and said she shouldn't come forward and yada yada yada but this is the second time now why this story is absolutely hilarious is every single clip that you find of diana russini talking about her husband sounds like a complete shit show and a mess if you haven't heard him i have him for you of course you do like to hear it here we go please come on i'm not gonna eat my family's gonna hate me for 12 days i'm not gonna sleep i'm not gonna eat my family's gonna hate me my husband's gonna threaten divorce but we've signed up for this this i didn't sign up i was not ready um and we're getting divorced at the end of the year right stop breaking news she'd be doing this on sports shows sorry kev diana with the the eagles he doesn't even know who i am right now he's okay oh yes he we've talked about we've never been more disconnected in our lives our text messages look like two robots hello just go through the motions yes is he getting the insider in the uh in the divorce love you any of that love you love you too no not even an emoji i get a picture of mikey and joey looking adorable and perfectly dressed because kevin's so good at that right and i'll write back miss you guys you too he texts us the next day yeah going to work i'm like what 15 hours just passed right so i have a lot of i have a lot of work to do guys when i get home a lot of work to do on your marriage that's what you're saying yeah my marriage i'm going to be a full insider on my marriage the second i land right wow that's you know who lets me know my marriage is falling apart my mom so that's good oh does she oh really what do you think about that yeah i'm going to be a full insider on my marriage the second i'm going to walk over here what she said to you this is real different show different day yes yes please do it see i don't like this is funny hey thank you so much kev told me that you stopped by the house oh yeah yeah he looks good he looks really good i go yeah i was like he doesn't seem as stressed this year she's like you know what i'm starting to think he's got a girlfriend and you know what good for him he looks good he's successful his wife's never around you love this football thing that sounds like what's your mom i went right back i go why would you see that to me right now while i'm on a trip right that my husband has a girlfriend yeah and ah just keeping you on your toes you know i don't need to be kept on my toes i need help she likes you to be in the most vulnerable spot it's so messed up across the country as far as you can be from new jersey right now right there's nothing i can do yes and yet she's out here throwing things in my head right now i'm wondering i'm like ah that one girl in his office is really pretty yes shoot you're starting to think of who right again this is a sports show i'm just about to ask any point you want to start about the score no i did things in miami i haven't even told my husband because it's just i had that much fun it was not like that but like i knew he would judge the kind of party and i was doing i don't know what got into me i just remember being down there acting like it was my last day on earth as strong as me oh my god no i didn't think damn so yeah i just need a best friend anybody in broadcast makes joke on their wives or husbands And you could make a super cut of literally any of us up here saying a bunch of jokes that in hindsight would look absolutely crazy. I think the big story here is that everyone assumes that any mildly attractive woman in sports broadcasting in particular is there because she's fucking. That is the assumption by a lot of people. Wait, huh? How do we get to that being the big story? People assuming that the sports ladies are fucking. That is what people think. Yeah. What he's saying is that. But now we talking about somebody that's fucking. But what he's saying is that people joking around and playing around is going to always look bad in the montage. On top of the fact that people are already assuming you're a hoe just because you're in this male dominated field. Just like when that girl came out with Brett Favre. If all you have to go off is a montage. But when it's combined with action, like nobody pulled any of this up before we knew that she was fucking Mike Vrabel. So we're trying to talk through the situation. Diana, what's up? More tips for part two. Guys, I told your producer that I want to be. Introduce now. I don't want to be inside or I don't want to be Scoop City podcast host. I just want to be milk. Just straight up milk. That's what I'm going for. What the hell? You're talking crazy. Damn. That's all funny to me. Yeah. I think that's his funny banter. No. I think that. Not with the action that's going behind you. Yeah. That's what you're moving. But I can compartmentalize what she's doing as a profession with her actions off camera and off mic. I don't think. I mean, well, now they correlated. But I think that her. Me and one of the boys, all of like the female cops. I know they talk like dudes, bartenders, shit like that. You around men all day. So blow it out your asshole, Johnny. Suck my dick. Like women will say all of those things because they wanted a boy. So I look at that as that. Her doing whatever she was doing again outside is something totally different. So like she was ready. Yeah. I agree. A montage just can look like montage. It can look like more than a montage. It did seem like she had a. It was. Maybe it's her bit. She's always. Talk about her marriage. It would just seem like a lot of a lot of. Is the is the narrative because I don't know the story. I know. I saw the photos of them on the rooftop. I know all that is the is the assumption that she's cheating. No, it's not. Or that she's secret or that. No, I mean. Yeah. The assumption is that they both cheat. Because my assumption when I see people that brazen. Is that they're separate. That they're separated. And this is they're kind of coming out. That's actually what I assume. Because when I mean, the rooftop they were on, I think it's 21, 22. Almost 22. A hundred dollars a night. It's a very private. I was about to say. This is a private high end resort in Arizona. Overlooking the mountains. And Sedona. One of the wellness fly shits. And I think that you don't think that anybody has a camera that's looking at you when I'm in this dope ass hot tub. Or. Well, somebody had a P.I. On them. Oh. Or. You didn't say that part, Joe. Somebody had a P.I. On them. There ain't nobody up there. That's where you go to do that. Or. Nobody up there got their phone out. Let me offer a different take. Because I think that could be it. I think the other possibility, though, is that they called it on themselves. They called the paparazzi on themselves. They did it on themselves. Because she wants to come out with this relationship. That they're both separated. And this is their coming out party. Well, I'm not rolling with that. Only because whoever had these pictures tried to sell them to TMZ. To come on the media out there. Say less. And I'm told that before this, there were other pictures that they had. That come from like really, really, really, really far away. Got you, got you, got you, got you. Like not the iPhone close up pictures. Right, these are pro. Really? Yeah, so I'm with your first one. Maybe somebody separated. I still think they're separated, yeah. And we don't know. Because you put a P.I. on your partner. Something's going on. Yes. When you start going on. When you're famous and you start going on vacation with somebody who's not your partner. That's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot. You're pretty much more clips. Diana Rossini said this. And I think we all do weird things when we're in love. And we overshare and over post. And look, he's getting married to a beautiful actress. I'm married to someone average. I don't post a lot about it. I don't post too. You know who lets me know my marriage is falling apart? My mom. Did that one. She called that nigga average. She issued a statement though. She did? Yeah, she issued a statement. Let's hear it. Read it. So that kind of goes against the. Who issued a statement? Diane. It says that I did something this past weekend that I'm deeply ashamed of. I think that's A.I. Oh. I think. That's from a parody account. It don't sound. Keep reading it. They got him again? Maybe. What does it say? I'm reading on my boy. They got my boy. Diana Rossini. He's so old, yo. He ain't saying shit, nigga. How would you know if it? Because I saw all of them too. I saw. They say Mike Vrabel, Diana. But I went to the account that posted it. It says parody up top. I don't know if that's where yours is from. I don't know. I got it from. Yeah. I don't see. Any credible source saying that there's a statement. I see that I did something I'm ashamed of. But I think that that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. When you read it. You read what she said. Yeah, she's joking. It go down. How many of the sports reported chicks you think is. Is. Fucking. Damn. Parks. Yeah. I think that's what he was asking. Let's get the brass tacks. I think a lot. I think a lot. Why? I think a lot. I think a lot. I think a lot. I think a lot. I think a lot. I think a lot. I think a lot. What do you mean by fucking? What do you mean? What do we mean? No, you mean fucking to get there or fucking their co-host? I'm just saying fucking. I'm not putting in. But I'm not mad. Everybody's fucking. That's what I mean. I'm not mad at them. No, I mean. I don't. That's what I mean. Fucking in the workplace. Ah. Yeah. Why would you not? That's crazy. Why would you not fuck in the workplace? Most cops fuck. Most nurses. Most doctors. Well, the workplace is a conflict. Yeah. You're around a whole bunch of people. It's going to be a whole bunch of different males that you might find attractive. A lot of them are relatively successful. Why would you not fuck one of them if you're single? But there's clauses behind that, too, nowadays, right? Yeah. And? It happens. This is my thing about Parks and Marks. And I enjoy a good bit, too. I have running bits about my fucking partner. So I totally understand that part. But you also know when you could pop one of these bitches. Like, you also know when they come around talking a certain way, talking a certain way about it. They may have reprimands. They may have repeatedly around a room full of guys. At some point, somebody's going to say, you know what? I can pop this hoe. Of course. Jalen Rose and Molly did it pretty smooth, I think. It didn't get really messy on air. So did it? No. No, it didn't. But I think that might. Salute to them. Steve and I spoke to Jalen Rose in about five years. Have we even seen them two together? Jalen and Steve, I fuck with them. Jalen's no longer ESPN, that's why. It's only purely. That's silly. That's silly. That's the only reason. It has nothing to do with anything personal. See, hey, when a plan don't work. Now, I think both of them might just be stand up. And they ain't want to do it. Yeah. Mark, do you think Molly was fucking to get in before you leave? Absolutely not. And I'm getting up just because I'm coughing. The timing looks suspicious now because of how Joe just did that. No, I have no reason to believe that Molly was. I think she was the most professional and followed every rule. Of course. The only thing I've ever heard. Of course. And same thing for Jalen Rose. Jalen and Steven. Yeah, see, that's the point. I agree. That's the piece I don't like. I just think that, yo, human beings are human beings, yo. You might find somebody attractive. They don't necessarily got to be an incentive behind it. I think that's where the insulting part comes in. She just might like fucking. Like, again, nurses fuck. Teachers be fucking. Police chicks, they fuck. If you in a room about men all day, then one of them might. Fuck you. That's bullshit. Let's hear what? Which piece? Which piece? It goes to the same thing you said from the beginning. People just assume when you're a woman in that kind of industry. An attractive woman specifically. An attractive woman for sure. They just assume that you fuck. It's, what is it? What is that, Mark? Patriarchy? Yep. That's what that is. Yeah, it's bullshit. It doesn't happen the other way, ever. A man that is attractive works around women all day long? One or multiple women are getting popped. Are you opposed to, like, fucking in the workplace? Like, how do you, what are your views on that? You talking to me? Yeah. As he looks directly at you, I ain't asking you a question. Nah, nah, nah. You talking to Mr. And don't look at lips, nigga. Yeah. What the fuck? No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not opposed to that. Oh, we know. Have you got two concerns? I'm never. Yes, I have. Yes, I have. I'm saying that. Subways, nigga. I'm fresh. Oh, yeah. All kinds of meetups. Subway. You were definitely fucking the chicks when you worked at Subway Corporate. Nah, it was like seven, eight people in the office. Yeah, but you would go down to them local stores. You would go down and visit the stores. You would visit the stores. You go down to them stores. Yeah. You'd be at the Subway indictment. Hey, look at this. So, Subway's doing the census test. Just making sure everything is up to code. Making sure the tomatoes are by salami. Who needs a footlong? Oh, shit. Nah, I'm not. I'll call someone. I can't handle that. Oh, you like that? Let me call my man. You never fucked at Century 21? I never worked at Century 21. Macy's. Oh, I thought you. You worked across the street from Century 21. I got it. What about Macy's? I never worked at Macy's, man. He just give you random jobs? He worked at a lot of jobs. Wait, you still was fucking chicks at Macy's? Right. You was, man. Don't lie. While he was boosting. Nah, I'm not against sex in the workplace. I think you play the game. You know what you could potentially be getting yourself into. I think we are adults. depends on the job in my opinion really yeah i think you're in a powerful position then you know what you're getting yourself into when you play in a game i think that if yo you are an adult woman you are an adult man and y'all hit it off at work that's a possibility bro you're around somebody eight to ten hours a day but that shouldn't be a possibility when you're married i'm not so to married people say that's what i'm saying that's ideally speaking that's ideally speaking because you could be in a workplace with somebody and it ain't start off like that you just kicking it y'all just laughing joking and their personality could be something that you find attractive like on impossible women next you know you slip on a banana peel and right on the nah hey but yeah hey bye go out for happy hour you go off a happy hour y'all laughing y'all joking christmas party little dance little dance need to think you're getting hard on your butt work trip christmas party that's what happens terry cruz over there by the punch bowl yo gotta walk over there see what's up have y'all ever have y'all ever well had like got involved with somebody just yeah but i was at a restaurant so that's just normal everybody fucks at the restaurant i was fucking the guy at the gas station over there holy cow excuse me i was like i was young though yo what you did at the gas i was fresh out of jelly made me get a job i love you today i was fresh out of jelly made me get a job what was your job here okay i was a cashier i'm not from jersey nigga don't pump no gas boy we want a hot dog that's it the biggest thing i did was i did please 2021 uh 2021 50 cent straight 50 cent box three dollars on powerball that was the most intricate intricate part of the job yeah lottery yeah but i had it for um parole and that made the job so much funner getting fucked back there niggas was fucking the powerball girl at the gas station you're gonna get some tickets yeah you know y'all never fucking about the job yeah it's the restaurant for sure the sex is better you're the only one that said something everybody else i've done it i never did it was it a black guy i didn't have a lot of jobs i've never touched nothing that wasn't a black okay because you know the gas stations is yeah different it's what it's what it's multicultural don't worry about it don't repeat it now you get it started look look at your man now yo you stopped me oh you guys yeah this is racist it was right there it was cool all right so none of y'all care that diana russini's a hoe she might not be a hoe i think she could be separated and just moved on to somebody else or they could have just been enjoying some sort of private uh or they could be fucking my nigga like what are we talking about i'm just saying she might not be cheating i'm not so i'm not definitely fucking but i'm not calling it based off her having a husband and fucking mike vrabel okay i'm basing it off her having a husband fucking mike vrabel and comfortably walking in rooms of five and more talking that talk you're trying to get piped you are trying to get piped i hate when this room act like we can't tell the older white lady who come in i didn't i didn't refute when you said yo when jay walk in a room talking like that you're not talking about me you're not talking about me you're not talking about me you're not The dudes look around. It's a layer. She's trying to get fucked, letting niggas know it's safe to come here. Niggas guess that came up here, and when they leave, we be looking at each other like, yeah, she's a layer. That's only you. I've never said that. That's only you. That's only you. That's why niggas don't pie. That's only you, man. No one can do that. It's only you. You be like this. I just got here. Sweet Georgia Browns start playing. You be like this. Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. Razzle dazzle. That's only you, boy. He's on fire. Yeah, I know. We don't do that, boy. I know. See? You were free. But now that you said that, I got to think how many guests I could have fucked. Nigga, you can't do this to me, because I know you. Boy, I didn't do nothing. I just said I was asking myself a question. No, what I'm saying is, and I know how your brain works. So when somebody leave out of here, you'll look at me like, and it could be an unsaid thing. Who the hell is for like that? Alexis Texas? We did that? We did that. Hey. Now that you're saying it. It's coming back to me now. You don't want to fuck both of us, right? You see what he's doing? He's saying shit that he wouldn't fuck. He's trying to do the okey-doke. Who wouldn't fuck Alexis Texas? You would? Yes. Oh, yeah. It's a pro. Monday Night Raw. What? What the fuck is she talking about? You hitting that Raw? During the wrestling match. You hitting the Raw? I hit everything Raw. Oh, shit. What? I think I know who he was talking about. Fuck. Jack Revis style. Alexis Texas Raw? Respect. He said he hit everything Raw, boy. Up until now, me and Ish were the only people here who proudly used condoms. Oh, my goodness. Ish was the only nigga. We were single. He's the, you know, condom promoter. Mark said so. Oh, you too, Mark? What, you use condoms? But also, they've had a lot more sex than me, too. You running down on me. A lot more sex. Nobody believe that. What's the point? Don't change the truth. You can't feel anything. We're adults. What? A condom? What do you mean? You want to judge me for using condoms, too? Yeah. The first was reading books. No, I'm not judging you for using condoms. You are. No, I'm saying that he's lying. And I'm saying you're lying. I don't use them now because I'm married and monogamous. We don't know I'm lying. But when I was single, yes, I used condoms. I use condoms, bro. Lame slip. I mean, I got kids, obviously. You're losing. You're losing now. But, Flip, I was 40 with no kids. You're living life on the edge. Everything raw. Yeah. A little Busta Rhymes to make everything smooth. Y'all talk all this whole shit and y'all doing that with a condom on. Like, shut up. I got a question because I really need to know. Do you ever get tired of being a bitch ass nigga? Yo, bitch ass nigga. Yo, bitch ass nigga. Hey, look at this shit that gets. See, yo? It's like what we just talked about. Look at this shit that get ridiculed in our community. Right. It's condoms. Fuckin' condoms. Yo, what is that joke? Fuckin' condoms. Yo, come on. Waste of time. What the new condoms do? I wouldn't know. I'm married. I haven't used a condom in. Oh, please. I don't even know. Joe said. No, they've teased me for decades for using condoms. It's lame. Especially when you talk about doing all that fucking. It's like, come on. Okay. But he don't drink. Last condom I used was one of them free New York City condoms, probably. Oh, shit. What? Yeah, that shit. The train station shit? The shit from the train. I got a map of it. What? Oh, shit. Historia. Talk to this sick fuck. Yo, that was fitting. Historia. Hey. My shit can't fit. I mean, yeah. Hey, you can see. That's how you show off. Look. That's how you let people. Why do you keep dog whistling and say dick big? This thing is crazy. Why do you keep dog whistling so much? He can't fit regular condoms. This is your third time dog whistling about your penis size, bro. Last time you said, yo, I had my big dick in the corner and I was sad. I never said any of that. Yo, Joe, didn't he say that when he. I said somebody was curled up like a baby with a big dick. That's not saying anything about me. You said you got your heart broke. But you also did say that you had a shrimp all through high school and that motherfucker tripled in size. I didn't say that either. Oh, yeah. He did. He said he got a big dick. He don't remember his own past. I said I had a shrimp that tripled in size. You didn't got to say that one. I thought it was. You said you had a growth spurt and your dick grew. Shit went to a prawn. Yes. I said triple in size. You didn't say triple. No, you didn't say triple. That shit went to a lobster tail. But you just said you had a dick growth spurt. Hold on. What'd you say, Mona? That shit was wild. It wasn't a serious thing. That's what he said. It said that his penis and his height grew in the early 20s. In his early 20s. And I asked niggas. He took steroids. Send Mona a pic, girl. I asked niggas. On real speed. Are you asking niggas about a pic? Send my girl a pic. I asked niggas. I got a lot of friends. I'm sitting in rooms like this at my house, right? Okay. And I asked niggas. I said, oh, this shit, da, da, da. We had a conversation. And they was like, yeah. Most of them in the room said their dicks grew. After being in an L. Would you do like a dick rating? Like if a nigga sent you the hammer? What you mean? A dick rating. It's a category on OnlyFans. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. What's it called? It's a service they offer. What's it called? Dick rating. So basically, he's asking. Rating? Rating. Okay, I thought I heard you. So you send your meet and then they give you a grade? And they give you a little compliment or make a report card? If you're into that. But they got to give you a compliment if you pay for it, right? No, they do not. No, some people are in the humiliation, man. We're not going to kink shame up here. I'm at no judgment. I didn't even consider that. I just posted in my close friends a video of this guy. He's like 350, probably like 6'2", with the dick the size of a belly button. And you posted that? Yes, I posted it. I got to unfollow him. Everybody was so mad at my close friends. Was he proud about it? I got to put you on my close friends. No, you don't. No, you don't. He totally looks at the camera because it's like a, it probably went viral from wherever the guy's from. He sound like he's from Atlanta or something. And he's talking to the camera. He's talking about his man behind him. He's talking about how big his friends. Dick is. Oh, he got a big dick, man. Y'all, he like. What the fuck? And he just pulls his pants down. He has a belly button for a dick. That's exciting. So tiny. Thanks. That's what friends are for. Just be happy you put that in your close friends. Yes, the guys were so upset because you could not tell what it was at the beginning because it's like breaking people talking. Yeah. I like to keep it exciting in my close friends. I see. Go to medical conditions. Y'all all getting at it tonight. Please don't. No, I'm good. And if you remove yourself, I'm blocking you because that's so rude. Well, off of Diana Rossini, let's get to one of my favorite comedians out there. Love her. Nikki Glaser. There we go. Nikki Glaser was on Call Her Daddy and had this to say. How lame it comes across. I sometimes don't like to tell guys about this thing that I have where I'm like, you know. this is separate than the soulmate thing like i don't care if a guy has a sexual connection with a girl and like he was to use protection and just have sex with her for a night like i don't i literally wouldn't care if my husband did that i don't i don't know why i don't know why if he were to like watch the wire the wire do crossword puzzles or like text up like send memes and stuff i would be like what the fuck are you doing like that's our thing like emotional cheating would hurt me but like physical i'm just like i kind of i just feel like i understand how sex is for men most of the time outside of relationship it's just kind of transactional and it's just like they just want a nut and it's not about like i want to spend my life with this woman so it wouldn't feel i just i don't know i just wouldn't care as much so our barometer is no emotional cheating yeah totally physically cheating is good but i understand emotional cheating like if something were to happen where i would want them to tell me about it i would be obviously hurt but i wouldn't understand being drawn to someone else that you have a good connection with because it's like it's hard to when you just find someone and it's monogamy you brain doesn't turn off he's still gonna be attracted to other women he's still gonna like right be interested in other girls and have good conversations and stuff so i could see something developing and i would be heartbroken that it happened especially if it went on without me knowing about it but i would i would it i would always ask anyone i was with to be like if you develop feelings for the violence tell me and we'll deal with it like i just don't want to be blindsided but if you want to sex with someone else also tell me about it because i want to like see what she looks like and like ask you about it okay wait hold on so do you identify as like poly or like open relationship girly like another girlfriend i don't want and i don't want to like be in bed with you guys together okay not even in the same room no i don't want to like be and i don't want to be in the chair in the corner like cuckold is like you know like watching i just want to hear about it later okay you call this the hot husband fetish yes which is essentially when you want your partner to have sexual experiences with other people outside of the relationship yeah so when did this start for you nikki this started with my my boyfriend when i was 29 because i really hadn't had a boyfriend before then he would tell me about um like i would always ask him about like past hookups and girlfriends and how they got together like i was like the beginning like how did you guys first know you liked each other like i love that like i cut it off but she goes on to say that she liked listening to the stories so much that eventually he ran out of stories and she encouraged him go make new stories go fuck new people wow round of applause nikki glazer oh my god i think a lot of people feel this way and they just won't say it because the ego or embarrassment of social norms that's that's what it is society yeah it's societal it's like you'll be in a situation and you know your guy has this girl that he fucks with and you really don't give a fuck but your aunt calls you and your girlfriend call you and when they see him and it's like for the most part you respond and react to it and you're like oh my god i'm gonna back off of what they say and how they carry it at the end of the day i've always felt like if you're happy and you feel okay that's just what it is you don't have to like involve everybody i don't think that sex is like a big deal i couldn't see myself leaving somebody for fucking on me or getting a dick suck like that's not a reason to break up to me now if you did a bunch of shit to hide that from me that disloyal shit like that that might make me leave you you know but i just slipped and fell and ran into a dick suck not even slipped and fell and ran into a dick suck if you the girl at your job your sister or whatever she sucked your dick are you had to sell some drugs some ketamine it was a servant well if you fucked the other powerball girl to gas like no but the bitch from the getty down the street no seriously and on top of the first of all me and my ex his favorite porn star came to uh our area y'all going out it was cherokee he was a cherokee fan no wasn't cherokee no it wasn't it was one with the butterfly on his one from back in the day with the butterfly on the ass not roxy y'all know who i'm talking about it's not ebony or something you know the answer you know the answer either way she came either cherokee or roxy no cherokee or roxy so i might be right about cherokee okay so body help but y'all y'all know the porn stars will go on those little strip club tours or whatever the hood bookings i know i know exactly what you're talking about so when we went because that was somebody that was a big deal then we went i didn't expect us to be like that he threw the most money in there so she was like talking to us and i asked her like how much or whatever and i offered that to him as a gift he was scary about it he didn't want to do it but that i thought that was ill like if i would have paid i'm gonna pay her you fuck on your birthday i just thought that was like i don't think that's a nice gift very thoughtful and then it's like y'all play so much i'll never tell how y'all really feel about chicken i just don't think your favorite porn star somebody you grew up jerking off you fuck them like what's that how's that gonna bother our relationship on top of the fact that you never told about this that's not better than cologne hell yeah but i think it would work the opposite way i think he was like low-key mortified was he intimidated or oh he he seemed scared to me but i mean he made it like a moral thing like i wouldn't do that to you like niggas my offer i didn't talk to him he thought it was a test yeah it was a trick i'm not a tester yeah i'm not one of them type of bitches huh i don't know any i don't know i think i agree with her i think sex is sex i think it's levels this shit it is more hurtful for somebody to be spending time with somebody investing in a business you know shit certain shit men give you money they look at you a certain way didn't she say you have to use a condom no yeah she did she did say that that you have to use i thought she said that but she don't i've had an ex tell me that before like yo dog did you listen she said yo um she said yo i don't give a fuck if you fuck because i know who you are she's like yo you be building a condom i don't give a fuck if you fuck and these mental connections with girls she said that she's like yo you sit on the phone with a mad law trying to fix their life and all that fuck them and come back home she knew your whole game no i'm dead she had you dead to life and how did you respond to that i started laughing she said yo no i'm saying did you fuck did you start fucking and being open was like yo you know she's nuts yeah you know so he knows she'd say something like that wouldn't she say something like that i couldn't hear the name i'm not he said yo this nigga this is a tabitha right so oh wait she was i was joking i didn't even hear nothing so the nigga so she was like yo dog if we in the mall i guess yo she had him in his place clearly anyway right she said yo and i quote she was like yo dog if we in the mall and a girl come up to me and be like yo you was just fucking with me yesterday she said i'm gonna just ask her two questions like yo um did he eat you out that was forbidden and did and did he eat you out did he wear a condom and she was like yo if if those two things check out bitch we got shopping to do like you just got fucked excuse us a lot of women your girl do get your girl will get mad if you eat somebody else out yo a lot of women feel like that again a lot of them might not say it publicly because of society but a lot of people feel like that it's dudes out here too i know niggas that be for letting their wife get busted by niggas this is a super mature frame of mind are y'all that mature i'm not being honest no i'm kind of immature people are lying possessive about what possessive or just regular like just nobody else can fuck my i'm not saying the same thing i'm saying are you like on one extreme where you kind of down the middle i think i'm on the extreme i don't let nobody fuck my woman no man yeah i don't think that's i don't think that's extreme i think that's just regular you think you have a matter huh a cook do you think you have a say in the matter a say in the matter no if she's gonna fuck she's gonna fuck okay all right that's that's just that's a fact that's science but it's not what she's saying what i said you're never gonna hear a man say no no black man there's some dudes that's into that yeah but like a cuck like watching shit yes yeah okay besides that that's what we're talking about i get what you say she said like she's doing an act of generosity and love he's saying if a dude is doing this because he it's his twist he getting off on it or he's doing his own experiences like no black man's telling you that oh go get more experiences yeah i'm never doing that to go see the world to revisit that cuck topic for a minute and not that i want to be the guy to do it so please revisit the cuck topic if you enjoy watching you're a cuck no i thought that was a guy i think so i think you technically would still be a guy i think he would still be a cuck i know it's it's back to the fucking uh uh uh double standard shits but i think it would still be a cuck i think that yeah by the technical definition i think you are still what if she straps up i'm about to say because if she strapped up you definitely would be right yeah i would think ew why would you want to do that no i'm saying if you're if your girl got strapped i guess i'm running out the house holy shit where'd that come from you've been on amazon again a cuck has to be a male and female thing oh it does yeah i knew that that's what it said yes but what if it's a girl with a strap a strap come on bro we're not doing he lost his mom i'm telling you he was a freaks you good pops i'm great it's a question but i will say about nikki blazer that's wrong that's the old definition they said the modern usage and fetishism is a consensual kink a modern cuckold is fully aware of and derives sexual pleasure from their partner's activities with other people this often involves elements of voyeurism or masochism okay so under this new definition who in this room is not a cuck i just don't get no cuck hear me i think nikki blazer is being cuckish i won't call her a cuck yeah but if you get off on hearing your partner say stories about his adventures. I think also, and it made a full circle, you can't tell Nikki Glaser to hang with the homies. She be in a room full of niggas all the time hearing how niggas talk, hearing how niggas chop it up, and she understands. The comedian homies, they in there telling the truth. And they live on the road. What you get from her too is she has an understanding of men behind the scenes. Okay, wait a minute. I want to go back because I don't believe anybody in the room. Why don't you believe him? Because respectfully, of course, I'm not really. Yeah. But in the spirit of the conversation, if you're. I'll use B-Dot because I don't want to use y'all. If your girl was in front of you doing shit with a girl that you found equally as attractive, you think you would stay soft? And I have that same question for y'all. Oh, I was still thinking about dudes. Yeah. No, we were talking about the new definition. I said the new definition. I misunderstood. I don't know how I'll respond. I'm not sure. B-Dot, I think I'll be turned on. Every man here is turned on. Mark, so. I'm guessing I would be, but it's. I think y'all would be turned on even if you was trying to not be turned on. Exactly. But I'm not, like, looking for that. Like, flip? What? Yeah. But the fact that you're not looking for it, I understand your answer. Yeah, see, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm being honest. I've had girls. I've dated women where I did want that. And when they, you know. So you better. So you better. You better cock by the modern definition. I'm saying right now, I don't. My mindset is different. I don't know. You changed. I don't think you specified right now. Maybe I have to read what I'm saying today. No, here's what I'm saying. I'm saying, I think if it's just a. If it's somebody I'm seeing casual, to me, that's just one step from a threesome. I think for me, the game was always to get into a threesome. Yeah. But the idea of just sitting there on the corner watching somebody shush kabob my wife or watching some girl. Shush kabob. You don't have to be the corner. You can lay in there and put everybody. They always make it sound like the watcher is uncomfortable. The nigga said no. Light a cigar. Yo, he said no. Bro, stop talking. He said no. He said no. Yeah, I'm thinking. Yeah, if I'm just knowing it, they just fucking. I'm just watching. Niggas ain't into that, boy. And I'm not getting into it. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think I. I got to think about it. I mean, of course you're about to go for it. You said no. I would watch that. What the fuck is wrong with y'all? Y'all are so fucking weird with us. This is the thing. This is the thing. This is the thing. Walking off again. Go ahead and walk off, brother. Your girl and another hot chick fucking? You're going to be like, oh my God, no, I'm out? No. Hey, my girl and another hot chick just ordering coffee. Right. Surfing in the USA, Park. My eyes. I love it up here. I'm just saying, you can't force. Nigga, Mark said nah, bro. Let him live. Flip, you didn't answer yet. I did. What'd you say? I didn't hear you. If I see my wife and another girl. Your wife and Nyla Blackman getting this. Getting this. Watch your fucking hot tea wine. Y'all didn't complain to my family? I would never do that. Never. Not up here. Never. Don't do that up here. No, I watch. All right. Everyone's just scared of the word cuck and I understand. Because cuck sounds like it comes with a do. Yeah. It needs a rebrand. I don't think I would like looking at no shit. I wouldn't like that. Looking at what? Of course, a man and a woman. My man and another bitch. Okay. Just watching it. Tabitha would like that shit. Tabitha might like it but Damone would be pissed. Yeah, I don't got. I ain't mature like that. Oh my God. All right, we need a new word for cuck then. Yeah. I see cuck just scares people. Yeah, got a nasty connotation on it too. Yeah, it's true. That's interesting that the definition changed though. Yeah? Yeah. It's a different word. Words do evolve. Etymology. There you go. Y'all know these new age kids are not bringing dates to the prom? Huh? Because they're losers. And they don't mind cucking. What you mean they're not bringing. They're not. Wait, how? Wait, wait, wait. They're not going to the prom, Dolo. Nope, nope, nope. You crazy. Yes, they are. These new kids. New age kids. Some, I'm not saying all. A lot of them going to the prom with their homies. I think that's. Yes. A lot of these niggas are going to the prom with their crew. Dude crew. They're renting the vehicle and all of them are getting fried. And going to have like a guy night. Yes. I think that a lot of people are even not just this new age of kids but even probably shit my generation are just definitely scared of commitment now because the internet exists and there's mad options out there. So no, I'm not going to take this one girl to the prom when there's 200 girls at the prom. No, no, that's. They don't even go to your school. No, dog. These little niggas be fucking early. Back in the day it was, yo, I can't wait to go to prom because that might be my first time hitting it. They done fucked Sharon 77 times. The whole school fucked these girls already. They different. Yo, fuck Aaron. How old is my name Sharon? Nobody's name Sharon. You're Sharon 65. Back in his days. Bro, you think I'm joking? Like these little. Everybody fuck Dolores. My name was. I'm not. I got mad people in my life that are in education. Principals, guidance counselors, teachers. These little kids are doing sexual shit that we could not fathom at their ages. You had the teachers be fucking too. You had to call the house and ask permission to take her to the prom and all that stuff. And these little kids be having. You think I'm joking, my nigga. No, you right. I'm talking about 12, 13, 14 years old. These little kids is having threesomes and orgies and all that shit. We wasn't doing that. But even in the situation, even in the scenario you're describing, why can't you. All right, niggas been fucking all year long, everybody in school. Now, prom time, why you can't pick a girl you didn't fuck yet and bring her to the prom? Because if you wanted them. Because everybody else fucked a girl. If you wanted them niggas, Joe Pop. I think it's what Park said about Park's pop. It's the commitment. Back in the day, your girlfriend was your prom date. I don't know, when I was a kid, people were pregnant in sixth and seventh grade. So the whole thing about people not. People having sex younger, we were more teen moms than they are now. So that doesn't make sense to me, but. Yo, that was. There was a girl that might have been pregnant as a teen. There were a couple girls that got pregnant in high school. I'm talking about the entire school is avidly having sex. People was fucking back in high school. I totally understand what you're saying. I'm older than y'all. I totally understand what you're saying, but I'm just telling you that because when I was in middle school, people had kids. Not one or two. It was a couple bitches that had kids, which in having kids, having sex at age, you have kids because you don't know what the fuck you're doing. You don't know how to protect yourself and you don't tell nobody. So you end up having to fucking. Half of my friends either had kids at 14 or 40. Exactly. Exactly. And if you look at the numbers now, teen pregnancy is down. But nowadays. And fucking is down in that age group. Yeah, so. That's a big part of it. And it's a connection. And drinking. Yo. I'm not talking about high school. We went outside and played till we smelled. We crossed town. Smelled like the street. These motherfuckers don't even leave to connect. It's just different now. Everybody is. I was still scared of pussy when I went to prom. Yes. Like, dog, niggas wasn't just out here king-ding-a-ling again when they was younger. Yeah, I was looking for lime green hush puppies. No, it was some niggas. What? I was just looking for some. No, I don't buy that. Y'all went to your prom? No, I killed my cream suit. Don't blame me. I'll pull up the picture. You did not have on a cream suit with no lime green hush puppies. And I absolutely killed that prom. Marist prom, nigga. Ask about me. Who? That might have been. You was a prom king, Joe? Well, I was a dropout by then. That was some Spanish jerseys. Nah, I'm telling you. I killed the Marist. Now I'm going to find my Marist prom pictures with the lime green hush puppies in the cream suit. Horrible. What you wore-ish? Yeah, nigga, now what? What you had on? What you wore? What you had on? My first prom I went to? Yes. I had lizards on. I didn't have no fucking hush puppies on, my nigga. Well, you knew boosters. No, I was in. I didn't. You had more money than me at 16. My cousin just sent me a picture, too, that was at my iHouse. I'll show you right now, nigga. Show us. Some fly shit, too. Show us, nigga. I believe you had some glow up here, bro. All right, nigga, yeah. Y'all all went to the prom? I didn't go to my prom. Me neither. I went to three proms. I went to other proms. Why didn't y'all go to yours? That shit was. I got kicked out of school. I got kicked out, too. Same. Nobody cared at my school. Well, I left. Just rejoicing loserism. Nah, I'm not. That shit was cool that you got kicked out of school. Ooh, I got kicked out, too. No, I graduated high school, but from getting in trouble, I wasn't allowed to go to the prom. Yeah, that shit was corny in our school. We was looking more forward to going to Six Flags the next day on them charter buses than going to the actual prom. That senior trip was shit. Oh, they was getting fucked on them buses, too. I skipped the senior trip. The finger popping on the truck. Oh, yeah. I wasn't allowed to go there. But I did go to prom. I went to prom, too. It was a good time. I got lit. It was fun. How many proms you went to, Mark? Just one. Just mine. Fucking loser. You went to three proms? I went with my girlfriend. Flip went to three proms, nigga. Yeah. Which ones? I went to. How old were you, too? I was from 17. I went to. What was the number one school? Stuyvesant. I went to Stuyvesant's farm because my mom. My mom worked in the mayor's office. It's a big school. So I went to her daughter's. She pulled some strings. To go to a prom? To go to the prom. I slapped the shit out of you, Nick. He's a good boy. I understand. I understand. You lost me. I went to Stuyvesant. My mother was on the board of ed, so you went to the Stuyvesant prom? She went with somebody's daughter. No, she wasn't on the board of ed, but my mom. Explain it. My mom worked for the mayor's office. Her boss' daughter went to the school. At a range. I went to Mary Roach, but I got kicked out. It was like a favor. I went to the prom. It wasn't a favor. I meant you was doing a favor. I just went to the prom. Bless his heart. I went to the prom. You talk about Mary Burcham like it's Harvard, nigga. I know what Mary Burcham is now. Me too. Because of him. Me too. I promise. I went to Van Buren. Van Buren. Are you just. The day we were school together? And then I went to, I think, Prospect Heights, if I'm not mistaken. If I'm not mistaken. Three boroughs? No, I went to 11 schools in my life. God damn. I'm not proud of that shit. I used to be proud. that shit up here that shit is wack ever since I got into that whole sphere of your world like reading and stuff shit is trash books yo fuck you tricky words fuck you fuck you yo that shit is wack 11 school shit I don't want 11 school is crazy I went to one school nigga I need that shit we on the inside alright nah that's what I'm saying so chick I went to my fucking that marriage prom which you was trying to fuck me that whole year I was so scared of pussy she just knew what was going to happen on prom I was still scared of pussy she still want to fuck you after the lime green hushes I slept in lime green hushes lime green hush puppies the biggest one of the year might have been hard it was 96 oh yeah that's ghost face it's 96 yeah you had it hush puppies were sold out all over Jersey City I'm trying to fucking have a fly color on anyway let that track her dad told me make sure you have oh she'll be back buddy trust me I'm dropping it right to you I ain't got no money for no hotel none of that shit what you got these kids today this nigga's going to prom in a McLaren McLaren oh shit these niggas these niggas be having Rolls Royces and Cullinans and all that shit they probably be looking like weddings he driving he driving he driving be careful y'all these niggas be having Rolls Royces they be having all of that so again I'm hanging out with my niggas I could care less about Keisha that I could see tomorrow and he said he ain't going to prom with no aim right I'm bugging he ain't going to prom with nobody wait you going to prom in a McLaren Solo yeah that makes sense he's not leaving the prom solo that's true that's true that's true that's the catch nigga I'm stepping out oh okay I see it I get it I see the vision I see the vision I know what you're doing fuck you talking about he doing the old school shit take whoever the fuck you got over to the McLaren he got up started using the lip brush he taking somebody else's date and the D1 scholarship nigga I'm getting double team want to go home it's going to be hard to put the threesome in the McLaren she's with me listen all that shit sounds good I'm going to sit on the lap you never seen him lap up I told y'all I was going to think about taking him to the Knick game if it's if it's Tourette's was acting right yeah I took him whoo there was no there was no Tourette's he was cool good you introduced him to JT and him who Jason Tatum and him no but JT said what up and I said get the fuck out from my seat but when I looked over it was halftime did he bring the shoes I looked over on his phone I'm going to hold you down I'm going to hold you down I ain't going to I looked over on that phone boy he was writing a book to somebody it was it was a it was a long book so no you wasn't he's at the game at the game so you know I'm petty that little nigga nah I know you wasn't so you know I'm petty I wouldn't I wouldn't have tried to read the text before that some poor innocent lady saying oh I just know when you go to college you're going to be fucking everybody not me baby no is that our fault yo the book when I tell y'all our fault when I tell y'all the bullshit that he wrote back it's our fault it's our fault cause of that bullshit you pulled at the end of the Patreon nah my bad you set him up man you the apple in my eye girl never yo he wrote some bullshit back dope shit or bullshit no shit did I I told him erase that oh you have to fix are you you have to fix it I said yeah we were just popping yeah yeah we were just popping that's what you say we put it together that shit he wrote but wait was he writing it to cater to her feelings or was it that's what he thought he was doing but it was some bullshit now I'm going to spill it just cause it's funny okay okay I'm going to just give you the first he's going to get another fucking text no I'm just she don't listen to shit it's the main just for the first two sentences she listen to the last one so she said yo I just know when you go to college you're going to be fucking everybody this nigga said not everybody he said basically he said he said yo you know I go to college it's nothing but white girls up there I don't be fucking white girls I don't be I said yo erase that that ain't saying what you're trying to say Victor word holy oh that is hilarious wow you know it's like 90% white but that's 10% right fuck oh man that is hilarious what else we got that's important we got some super important news yes oh let's do it Chris Brown and Usher announced that they going on tour well we knew that because Ice told us he told us off air though we didn't announce it so shout out to Ice for being the head of the story I'll be there I think that's going to break all box office tour records that's going to be like big but can you can you do more than what he already did in numbers who Chris yeah he sold out he sold out stadiums what more could you do they was going to charge more you can add shows you can add more you can add shows and you can add seats and Chris there's a show show like Chris Chris is dancing it's going to generate more revenue you can add three or four shows and then the bump up is going to be in the ticket prices that meet and greet is going to be more expensive it's going to be like the Beyonce prices yeah it's going to be a great show though oh yeah absolutely I think it's going come on rap for your cousin nigga say it I think it's going to show I think it's going to show uh oh uh oh keep saying keep talking it's going to show it's going to show what's going to show what do you mean I think he's going to show Usher up on a different level oh what do you mean show him what do you think that he will intend to do that no it'll just happen I think it's going to be organic I think it's going to be organic either that if it cross your mind it cross his or he's going to have to dumb down the show who do you think goes first he can't dumb down the show that's not they're going to do the stupid back and forth that I that I normally hate I don't know if I hate it in this instance because it's Chris Brown and Usher I don't know he's going to have to dumb it down that's what I'm saying he's not going to dumb it down I think what you're going to see I mean I think that if they on tour together and there's a brotherhood there whether it's forced real whatever Chris Brown can't be the full Chris Brown one man show Chris Brown I agree he just can't be but also don't underestimate what Usher do to a crowd even though he's not in the same not doing that shape I'm talking about his performance no no I know what you're saying I'm just saying some of them Usher songs go in a way that just I I think it's going to look way more even than I think some people think it is it's also cool if Chris Brown Kendrick Scissor's thing it's going to be like back and forth it's also cool if Chris Brown is doing flips and hanging from the suspension and then Usher kind of casually strolls out and does an absolute smash banger like it's fine you don't have to that's the only place where I'm a little off what Ish is saying even if Ish is correct I think Usher's records are crazy that's what I'm saying even if Chris do that and everybody agrees Usher records is kind of just hard yeah I know I'm not that's also going to make it hard for the Scissor Kendrick back and forth to me too so you'd rather have your own individual sets I hate I hate back and forths they should do Usher and Chris I hated it at Scissor Kendrick I hated it at New Edition every time I've seen a back and forth see I didn't hate New Edition I didn't hate New Edition New Edition was the sound that made it fucked up if it sounded right I think that would have been fire agreed well yeah maybe if the sound was right for me Kendrick Scissor was a problem because genres yeah the genres are so different and I'm not so into all of Scissor's music I came for Kendrick so it was kind of like there were large lows where I was like alright but if you're an Usher fan you're probably a Chris Brown fan too yes that's why I think the back and forth works for them I think it's going to be dope I'm a fan of both Kendrick and Scissor huge fan of both I mix them up I'm one mood over here and now you're taking me out of that mood put me over here and now I'm going back I just went to the Breezy Bowl because that nigga tore a lot because he just yeah but it's like the way he got he get the room full of bitches like I just couldn't imagine separating that like that I just think it makes more sense to let it run his show is so good then he got the nerve to get up and fly over top of you Peter Pan now I went to Usher in Vegas Hose was there they got dressed too they got dressed I've been to Chris Brown arena shit they were there all of them were there undressed and it was raining when I went there the Hose did not care so this is going to be a good mix of the younger and the older women coming together dressed and undressed dressed and undressed pray for rain and it's going to be Cherry's going to be sold out all stadiums right Cherry's sold out all stadiums all stadiums so that's the that's the little thing with the Usher show it was more intimate so they they had that shit on yeah when you outside in the stadium you could get your hoe on yeah because they had their hoe on in the Barclays when I went you could get your hoe on you know what I'm saying that's what I'm in the Barclays so it's a little different when you in Vegas it's you know quaint you was in there with your little you know what I'm saying your sequins on so you wouldn't wear that he had his lime greens on no no no it looked nice I'm saying you wouldn't wear that to an outside show is what I'm saying like just the attire is going to be different than what you would wear outside when you go outside nigga you could be out there with you know what I mean girls is coming to get I'm glad Usher's there because I'm the biggest Chris Brown fan in the world but his show was too long like it was too many slaps I don't even think this song I ain't want to say nothing he did three and a half hours my God solo of slaps solo niggas was all records he might have left records off by the end my feet was hurting I was mad at niggas in front of me and behind me had to piss but couldn't go to the bathroom line as long hungry again even though I ate like a mess niggas was leaving on in Instagram like yo there's some bullshit I'm leaving he just played my shit and you can hear the background like yo it's 12 o'clock and I gotta go to work in the morning this is some bullshit and you can hear slaps coming on as they walk into the car I went to my car and just heard the slap yeah it's probably gonna be like a four hour set then it has to be at least no we ain't gonna do that I'm not sitting through that 90 90 I'm old 90 90 too long for me yes 90 90 60 he did three and a half with just him bro yesterday I want to see three three hours when you when you when I went to 11 11 because I ain't go to the breezy but we went to 11 11 the nigga was doing the shit where he was just spinning a wheel and wherever the wheel lands that's how many songs that nigga had that he didn't play he would just spin a wheel wherever the song land and if I had to give you a word of advice which I could never that's Joe Budden but that's never stopped me before you're back up dancing are cool they cool yeah they're nice when y'all get to skating around that should be looking smooth uh-huh but the breezy one yeah he might yeah the ball hand one that's my baby that's the one what that's all that's everybody that's that's the one she's nice she keep a beat yeah oh she gotta find one of them fam get a fat chick no she got about he got three or four of them let it burn he got three or four of us you do have a one he has his version of the boy oh hold up now we play I remember that girl we were looking at up there it was like all right I'll shoot he got one where if you don't think for a second you think he's fucking her yeah the dancer did the twerker yeah he got one he got one now in the verses I think she loses to the ball headed girl no but Chris got three of them he don't just got the ball head one the ball head one he got two slimmer ones that's fire I'll be there for you maybe we got to go to that show Chris Brown we gotta make sure that he ain't take somebody's girlfriend and make it out well stage like how he did do is that what he did remember you I don't think he did that you ain't get the arms sweet prices yeah right sweet prices did not come back in yet but it's going to be available it's in sweet prices are not in but please I got a call that said in the event the sweet don't work out I'm guaranteed two tickets we know you like the European girls I think that gun dumb tickets gonna be harder for people to get shot then I think they know no niggas got them already no a lot of people got tickets your money you coming if we get the sweet you coming a lot of people sweet for what for the jay-z jay-z the general pop tickets mm-hmm they're not invited is the quitter this nigga get this we gonna let us come yeah we in there we in there y'all being hopeful no no he may he say you removing some niggas off a list no that's it come six grand a pop yeah six grand a pop six grand to be with y'all huh it's six grand a pop each for us to be in the box I'd rather just pay my own tickets beat out stairs that's it I'm gonna come with some box you don't you are you trying to this week that's great six grand I'm not paying six grand are you but you going in there boy it's my man I'm in there I know too much I mean he may pull a move and kick me out get this nigga out of here then I'm just gonna come up here and turn up okay what is this yeah Tuesday I'm wild I might take a camera - they could flip wild out again I'm going live ushering Chris Brown I'm near I'm gonna talk to dig a six grand popper is your mom if I pay 125 K for a sweet you get to great I shouldn't be charging people no but not niggas up here no you should have the niggas up here you just want why you charge the niggas outside we would do the same for you charge burn charge for her yeah what else do they need us what else do they need us oh shit wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute oh just for the record there no dates been announced for Chris Brown in Russia yet so okay probably between to be that issues Chris's cousin I think I'm waiting for dates to come from the web and he don't want to go talk to his cousin I eat like that probably waiting on the way you want to talk this guy you're shitting me I love now Oh actually that's the other thing I know it's a good idea for people to release music around the time that tours are announced I know Chris Brown is going to release some music this is brain yeah good I just want I love us I wanted to be careful you with that little light skin boy if you want now because he's gonna try and drop something to end you while the tour is happening thanks see before the tour starts he's just coming on some light spring right now this boy ain't to be played with it yeah you know how we ride too bad so maybe that means you might just get a baby let's stay in the house I'm a drink from your fountain break it down for me now break it down for me foreign I should be careful yo who was it at versus Joe excuse me who wasn't that versus yeah that's tough I think is it really tough it's tough man Chris got a lot of records man I take us you take usher over breezy I take us here as well yeah wait it's 20 21 40 I would take it the problem is 20 so wait wait wait wait wait if so but that doesn't make sense if you said if it goes 40 you got breezy breezy winning in the long haul he has more songs he has more songs but if you take the two normal force a normal uh format 20 verse 20. what are you putting against burns uh that's a few songs I think I should got that would go against no Chris Brown Chris Brown oh I'm sorry uh you say residuals I didn't say anything oh he might have said residuals oh that's what you would do hmm oh you lose bad residuals what would you what would go against burn or burn let it burn I'm sorry that's what's throwing me off okay for me I think there's five Usher records that Chris will have to concede to which is burn one of them yeah let it burn is one of them for sure you got it bad that's probably one of them you got it bad as one nice and slow oh yes you make me wanna or do you think that's no that's beautiful okay confessions you remind me oh yeah I think that's beautiful Usher's got some big you don't have to call you don't have to call yeah that's just a tough for anybody Usher's not seeing Chris Brown no versus wait uh I disagree throwback is a tough one too to be I gotta see something I would like to see that on the tour though like don't have that kind of back and forth battle like that versus kind of just playful with it that would be dope I think yeah I love Chris brother he Usher's big records are too big that's what I'm saying yeah but I think the distance has to go to Chris yeah but I think the distance is more than 20. that's what I'm saying normal versus when you're going 20 I think Usher's a tough out if it went 30 I think Chris I think Chris could be Usher 11 9. no I don't see it I think he could respectfully sorry I don't see it so Chris Chris got granted remember we talking about I think Chris Brown has a deeper discography definitely of his own and I think his feature writer discography is I think that packs us out I do yeah come on it's gonna take oh oh no he's right so so so he's right he's right he's right so so so so Chris got run it yo say goodbye with you forever kiss I should get the 12 songs he's gonna get drowned look at me now loyal new flame no guidance go crazy hmm you're gonna drown him 12 I know Usher got nice and slow you remind me you got a bad yeah burn confessions my boo love in the club oh my god see all that is beatable to me yeah yeah yeah Usher got three or four songs that are not beatable the rest of that can be beat yeah I don't know man you got tough he don't have you got confessions part two being beatable Joe no uh yeah I don't I don't have confessions being beatable really keep going though i sure has 16 top 40 top 10 records alone but listen so this is top top 10 and out of those top 10 songs some of those songs are beatable i think that's true i think some of them are you remind me is beatable my way is beatable my boo is beatable yes seduction is beatable but just don't mean they're gonna get beat some of them gonna win moving mountains is beatable good kisser is beatable yes like he got mad beatable records got 700 songs to play with to beat you but they're not and we're near as big records no box stand on it big records win verses i'm sorry like all right so real quick i just named 16 my boo he's got 16 top 10 hits my boo verse back to sleep well who gets it oh my boo my boo my boo i love chris brown but you're speaking as super super hardcore chris brown put you back to sleep might not beat it he got something in his catalog that can beat it give us another one joe off the head yo yo is a good one what are we talking about yeah yeah yo is the rl for my boo yo oh oh a million times over my boo nice and slow you think nice and slow to yell that's blues i'm gonna say nice and slow nice and slow is beating yo nice and slow is beating yo nice and slow is beating yo nice and slow beat whatever they call me us yo my boo my boo should not be in the same sentences uh excuse me yo but they're not they're not they won't be able to see you i'm talking about my boo against uh what did we just say it was the chris brown song yo back to sleep no back to sleep back to sleep that's what i'm saying and then um we had like we had the other joint against that and i'm saying he wins that one too i got chris brown in the distance i don't think i don't think we'll ever see this i don't think i might say on the tour a little back to the flashes of it yo and i'll tell you one thing sometimes we don't need to see it when we go to the show and come back word we'll have a clear understanding yeah but that's gonna be 30 or 40 it's three hours of song what would you put against what would you put against usher's yeah that's another yeah it's a tough fucking out it is yeah it's a tough out but he got songs that could beat it yo you think it's gonna be yeah he got songs yeah it's just a monster i think yeah it's beatable i think y'all are the world's biggest chris brown fans yeah as somebody who i'm a bigger usher fan than chris brown fan but like this song's that chris brown got that that knock because you fuck with chris brown and because they're great songs but usher got records that are just so big i don't think i think he don't got 20 of them bro that's he has a lot of them yes let's say he got top 10 let's say he got 12 that's why you need to win the versus so beat out i'm sure got like 10 respectfully but beat out a lot that's great yeah what category what category of the hits and bangers would you put us in chris that's a good question now because i had to oppose that question like the difference between hits and a banger so which one would you put i think like back to sleep is like a banger that's not a hit okay yeah i'm just saying the hits win versus that's all i'm saying yeah i'm just saying the hits win versus that's all i'm saying yeah bangers win rounds though nigga got a lot all right so if you do yeah and chris brown does no guidance who wins i know yeah yeah yeah all right never mind kiss kiss i'm out he got songs i don't know what conversation to have with y'all i don't know what talk i'm having i think you a big chris brown fan not at all not at all i ain't that big of a chris brown bro i just like i just like music at some point yeah yeah it was huge a monster fucking record it was huge it still gets fucking played in sinks and movies and all that shit so still but he got a lot he got too many songs i don't see it okay yeah chris got the bangers not winning again like i think i think yeah and kiss kiss is a fight okay you might get tight y'all i don't think it's a crazy tape but i think it's wrong y'all oh no y'all living in that yeah i think it's the opposite i think chris i don't fuck with kiss kiss i don't fuck with kiss kiss yo dog that song was a monster song yeah yeah i'm not saying that i'm saying i think it's a fight depending on who you asking you was outside for a year my last question my last question to y'all and i promise i'm done uh uh can you handle it versus take you down take you take you down take you down for sure i gotta hear yeah let me hear it take you down that's a bang i can't think what's can you handle it if i go down ah this is a fire right this is that shit i'm not saying chris brown ain't dope y'all this is a banger y'all confused i don't know what verses look like yeah exactly so now you don't play this i didn't want him hit the note this ain't coming on no verses this is not no no no i'm just asking put this up against them but yeah oh my god it's a great song instead of doing that dude you got a bad verse to take this right here make a baby off this record all right that little boy girl goes crazy on this song this is you think you're gonna make a baby off this record you got a bad beat this you think you're gonna make a baby off this record you got a bad beat this i'm still mad y'all niggas told i'm still mad y'all niggas told i'm still mad y'all niggas told me my boo is playing my boo real quick me my boo is playing my boo real quick me my boo is playing my boo real quick now play you got a bad verse i know what now play you got a bad verse i know what now play you got a bad verse i know what my boo there's always that one but my boo my boo there's always that one but my boo my boo there's always that one but my boo was fired i'm sorry was fired i'm sorry was fired i'm sorry stop beating that's just annoying wreck it down wreck it down wreck it down it's a big record it's a big record it's a big record too much too much too much everyone to see oh baby everyone to see oh baby everyone to see oh baby yeah you gotta rock and wait in this one yeah you gotta rock and wait in this one yeah you gotta rock and wait in this one come on come on come on i don't know about us come on i don't know about us come on i don't know about us come on that ain't even a record this that ain't even a record this that ain't even a record this what did he put what was putting it what did he put what was putting it what did he put what was putting it up against up against up against yo yo where's my phone no we yo yo where's my phone no we yo yo where's my phone no we didn't put it against joe that's not didn't put it against joe that's not didn't put it against joe that's not what he's talking about what he's talking about what he's talking about he did a switch he did a switch he did a switch we didn't sign up against yo at first we we didn't sign up against yo at first we we didn't sign up against yo at first we put it up put it up put it up that way it was back to sleep it was that way it was back to sleep it was that way it was back to sleep it was back to sleep joe buggy back to sleep it was back to sleep joe buggy back to sleep it was back to sleep joe buggy chris brown chris brown chris brown yeah he's trying to set us up yeah he's trying to set us up yeah he's trying to set us up yo yeah my sorato's just up yo yeah my sorato's just up yo yeah my sorato's just up uh-oh y'all lucky parks there your uh-oh y'all lucky parks there your uh-oh y'all lucky parks there your sorato's got it grab your phone sorato's got it grab your phone sorato's got it grab your phone you wanna be uh i'll grab my phone we you wanna be uh i'll grab my phone we you wanna be uh i'll grab my phone we can play these records back to back all can play these records back to back all can play these records back to back all you want you want you want oh yo do me a favor don't never say my boo yo do me a favor don't never say my boo yo do me a favor don't never say my boo again don't say nothing about my boo again don't say nothing about my boo again don't say nothing about my boo again you think my movie you think my movie you think my movie i don't think so you gotta be a chris i don't think so you gotta be a chris i don't think so you gotta be a chris brown fan to love this right that's what brown fan to love this right that's what brown fan to love this right that's what i'm saying great record it's a great record it ain't great record it's a great record it ain't great record it's a great record it ain't beating my boo you had a recent bias it beating my boo you had a recent bias it beating my boo you had a recent bias it sounds like it sounds like y'all just sounds like it sounds like it sounds like y'all just seen a versus yeah i've seen a seen a versus yeah i've seen a seen a versus yeah i've seen a versus and it don't go like that because if versus and it don't go like that because if versus and it don't go like that because if that was the case the biggest record that was the case the biggest record that was the case the biggest record wins wins wins wipe the floor with bobby brown and wipe the floor with bobby brown and wipe the floor with bobby brown and every one of his big records it don't every one of his big records it don't every one of his big records it don't just go big record just go big record just go big record i agree they don't always go just like i agree they don't always go just like whatever record charted higher but that you're also comparing a situation where performance matters I was about to say but you look at I'm sure he can still perform exactly yeah but he can't I'm trying to say that how many take records beat Tyrese Big Records he can't do he can't outperform Chris Brown so it's like if y'all the verse is true it's true about the bigger songs but the fact that because he ain't flipping I'm about to I'm about to fucking sing his ass off and he is flipping yeah word and he's flipping and he's skating and he's tripping and he's flipping word the nigga 8 foot and he can dance his ass off I don't give a fuck Usher flipped and skates but Chris Brown did the flip and landed on on the one what was the fucking we all know the flip Usher flipped and landed on and Usher and Usher had Chris Brown on stage yeah but Usher dated Chili nigga fuck out of here you only say that now Usher dated Magga Magga Chili exactly he knew point point to Chris he didn't help before that you know Chris dated some Magga bitches do all them little Spanish bitches you can't even get in the section Chris still doing the bag test they come by the truck load he be all the way in the back of the line nigga like who the fuck is that Chris don't have the bag test to get in the section with him we gonna see Rick Ross come out for you Chris don't want nothing darker than him in the section anytime he at the club in London he get to pull his pants like this bitch darker than my calf get her out of here blackie no no bitch be caramel light caramel get that black ass out of here alright we're moving right along we're moving right along do we have anything else that needs our attention I don't think anything ever needs our attention we definitely that shit needs our attention I think we did it nigga Pox is lit are you good Pox let me just check my list Friday Pox is different let me check my list it's not Friday Pox it's not his boss it's that fucking Moissanite chain that nigga got on it's fucking with him you shitting on the other I'm not shitting on him bro you got your teeth white and you up to something Pox I'm chilling I got the teeth get out of his mouth get out of his mouth I don't give a fuck. He smokes cigarette. He got his teeth white. Get out his dental shit, bro. His teeth got white. Chill out. Chill out. You shaking yellow and white like that? Stop. Before we end, I do have, and now I'm finding Chris Brown's song there with two of you motherfuckers that made me mad. Yeah, stop playing with that. Nigga, chill and say it. I do have it. He tried to put yo against my boo. He gonna burn. I hated my boo. I hated my boo when it was out. Me too. No way. I hated my boo as it was soaring. Me too. I hate that song. When it came out, you hated it? Nigga, I was gay when that song came out. I thought she was pulling a move when that song came out. I hated my boo, but I loved the video, but I hated the song always. Wasn't it so popular? I don't know. I just hated it. I never liked it. I never liked that song. It got too hot. I'm a way bigger Chris Brown fan than Usher. How many songs is that? I'm a way bigger Usher fan. How many songs? I didn't really fuck with Usher until moving out. How many songs that became so popular that it ended up being hated? A lot of songs like that. I hate the Tim song, "Wait For You." Me and you? I can't hate that. How could you hate that? I can't hate that. It's too popular. I love that song. I know what you're talking about, but I can't hate that. I know what you're talking about now. When a song gets too hot, it's like, "All right. Here we go again." "Wait For You." Future did it. "If You Call You." It's great. He hates it too. No, I like that song. Oh, okay. When they get overplayed and get too crazy, you do get corny, but some of them, it's just like, it never dies. Like, "Hit me, baby, one more time." That's a classic. It's killing me. It's killing me. Can't die. I'm a skin dance. I still believe. Still believe. See? It wins. You see what I'm saying? At some point, the played out song becomes a classic song, and you can't deny it. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go, Paul. But some shit, you just hate the first time you hear it. "My Boo." For sure. It's too cheesy a little bit. I hated "My Boo" from day one. It's a little schmaltzy, but I like it. And I've never heard nobody say that but him. People always disabuse me about that. "My Boo" is the best song. I hated that shit. Go ahead, Joe. What? "My Boo." Yeah, I hated "My Boo." I absolutely hated that. You're the only motherfucker I ever heard say that other than me. We have weird shit in common. Usher brings out Jadakiss, and they could do. And he better not play "You Make Me Wanna" neither. Chris Brown gonna eat that shit right up, too. He is. He better not play nothing that ain't his best. This is best. You don't fuck with "You Make Me Wanna"? "You Make Me Wanna"? Stop it, Joe. I love that song. Don't stop it. You just talking, Joe. I love that song. You're just talking. It's beatable. I love that song, too. It's beatable. "You Make Me Wanna"? That song is very beatable. You make me wanna leave the one I'm with. Yes, that one. That one. That one. That one. I was outside when that shit was like my best friend. So he's telling me, "The one I used to wanna talk to when me and my girl was having problems. He used to say it'll be okay. Suggest little nice things I should do. Go home at night and lay my head down. All I wanna think about is you." See, and that right there is why Usher would lose the verses. Usher got too much. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Hey! He used to say it would be OK to just little nice things I should do. This is funny! When I go home at night and lay my head down, all I want to think about is you. See, and that right there is why Usher would lose the verses. Usher got too many-- That's exactly because everybody likes that singing. Usher got too many songs where he's begging for the pussy and didn't get it. Wow. What? Before this, you was like my best friend. So you mean you got a song that don't make a move? We used to talk, I used to take my problems. Chris get the pussy in every song. Every last one. Every song. He fuck the whole crew. He fuck the squad. And stalk his ex. Karrueche, get your ass out of here. Chris fuck the new bitch and stalk his ex. Niggas, stop playing with Chris. Remember that shit with the viral whips that was in the bitch when it occurred? He would do whatever He a gangster, yes he was. Yo, I hate y'all. Nigga turned his little blood. He is fire. Yeah, he's, yeah. I love him. Chris does a lot of records. Chris does a lot. Me and Fox don't talk about him on Twitter. Yo, this nigga. Listen, man, this was a good show. It was. This nigga ate the charts up. Two of the greatest R&B artists of all time. For sure. That's a fact. Chris Brown. Early Bobby Brown in that. Nobody compares us to Michael Jackson. What's up with that face though? I'm a funnel in the world, dude. I never, never, never break up. Yeah, Joe. No, not this way. But you don't understand me, girl. When she touches me. You hear it, Chris. I'm wishing that it was your hand. Toxic, sis. Baby, when I'm with her, it's only about the sex. With you, I had a bad romance. Hey! And if I could, I'd stand it in, I would. Get out of here, boy. Cause nobody could pass. Yeah, fuck out of here, boy. This is just the outro song, Mark. too much joy in your face this has been a great show hopefully y'all have enjoyed this yo hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you keep us in your prayers lord knows it's up it's going on in my head Until next time, we bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye, or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past, so let's make this one last as if it's all real. Hey! What y'all on this weekend? What are y'all on this weekend? What are y'all on this weekend, anybody? Just work. Just work? Work for it. Mark, what you doing this weekend? Doing some birthday stuff with the boy. All right, all right. Oh, yeah, tonight, Michael Paul's birthday. Michael Paul's birthday. Happy birthday, Michael Paul. Mona, what you on? I'm getting ready for my upcoming Atlantic City and Atlanta show. Hey! Okay. Beat out what you want what you on this weekend being a good dad man I'm outside working man. All right. He's working bark bark bark supposed to be nice. All right. Yeah, I might be outside That's his line to be outside for the weekend Yo, honey, yo, remember I told you I gotta fix the house now you coming to my crib Come see me. I got to talk to you anyway. Y'all hold it down, man. Until next time, peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity. Oh, before I go, yo, memory of a killer. Chef's kiss, season finale. Great job. Great job on that. Finish the show if you haven't seen it. Until next time. She ain't no she ain't, yeah. Now lovers and friends might be tough. No, he's going to need to really hit him when Love and the Fridge come on. JVP! JVP! Where would you be without the JVP?

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast discusses the ethics of objectification, particularly when men use phrases like "damn" or "I'll fuck the shit out of you" toward women, arguing that such remarks can be degrading and exploitative.
  2. Participants debate whether "damn" is flirty or objectifying, with some agreeing it's a compliment, while others see it as a threat, especially when paired with verbal or physical invasions of personal space.
  3. A central concern is that objectification becomes more harmful when it happens without consent, especially when women react with fear or distress, indicating a lack of agency.
  4. The hosts emphasize that true respect involves polite appreciation—like saying "you look good"—rather than degrading or threatening remarks that reduce a person to an object.
  5. There’s a discussion about street culture and street identities, with participants questioning whether someone who survived violence or lived a street life can still be considered "street" if they now live a civilian life.
  6. A key point is that public expressions of personal trauma—like Gucci Mane’s song about being threatened—can be seen as irresponsible or exploitative, especially when they involve violence and lack context.
  7. The conversation highlights the cultural tendency to glorify street violence and silence victims, leading to a cycle where survivors are misrepresented or vilified.
  8. The hosts conclude that in healthy culture, people should be encouraged to speak up for themselves, not victimize or objectify others, and that personal boundaries matter regardless of social status or background.

Summary:

The podcast explores the ethical boundaries of objectification in everyday interactions, particularly focusing on how men use casual language like "damn" or "I'll fuck the shit out of you" toward women. The hosts argue that such remarks, especially when delivered without consent, reduce individuals to objects and can cause fear and emotional distress. While some see "damn" as a harmless compliment, others view it as a form of catcalling or threat, particularly when it escalates into aggressive or invasive behavior.

The discussion also delves into broader cultural issues, such as the glorification of street violence and the public performance of trauma, using Gucci Mane’s song as a case study. Critics argue that releasing such content so soon after a violent incident is irresponsible and exploitative, especially when it lacks accountability or context. The conversation underscores that respectful interaction requires awareness of power dynamics, consent, and personal boundaries.

Ultimately, the hosts advocate for a culture that values empathy, self-respect, and dignity—where people are not reduced to objects or narratives of violence. The tone remains critical of both casual objectification and the public glorification of street culture, urging listeners to question their language and behaviors in real-life interactions.

FAQs

No, the podcast is purely for entertainment and does not present its content as serious or factual.

The podcast clearly states that objectifying women is never acceptable and criticizes comments like 'damn' or 'I'll fuck the shit out of you' as harmful and inappropriate.

The podcast explains that 'damn' is seen as a flirty compliment, while 'I'll fuck the shit out of you' is viewed as a threat and a clear form of objectification.

Yes, the podcast highlights that catcalling or making inappropriate comments, especially in public, can be distressing and disrespectful to women.

Yes, it raises concerns that rappers who speak about being threatened or attacked should not do so publicly, especially if it could be seen as irresponsible or exploitative.

The podcast questions whether being a 'street nigga' is defined by behavior or actual activity, and suggests that some individuals may have reformed while still holding street-oriented values.

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