Episode 9: Discussions Matter featuring Ricky Lee

Ustini, The USD CCWLS Podcast presents Discussions Matter. Mugatang araw beli ako sa osemohika ng inung host at ito ang stiling ang opisong napodgast The USD Center for Creative Writing and Literary Studies. Last month, Dahil Women's Month nakasama natin sa Dating Taxi Jenny or Toa Stay. Sa episode naman natin ngayon, bilang celebration ng National Literature Month, makakapiling natin sa bagong additional discussions matter or DM ang isa sa mga kinikilala at slot after the Skripriter sa Bansa. Ang guess natin ang inexilat na nang mga dula, feature articles, ilang baikling kento na mo babasas sa sitata ng atang mga himalana ng ating panohon, Skripriting manual ng trip to kaya pa at ang film Skripriting Workbook. Mima nubalara ng tooled ng parakebi sa amapwala sa 65 na kabanata, bahinimarta at ang kung alam nilang, at ang pinakalitis ng release ay ang kulangan ng nasilia, essays on life and writing. Shem, prena ka pagsilat na shanang mahigit sa 150 na produce screenplays, ilan sa mga ito ang moral, Himala, Carnal, The Floor Contoclation Story, Bagong One, The Triala, Tang Sarvanto magdama sa Direction Love Dia, Stampok sa Jan Lloyd Cruz. Ginoaara na shanang ng Yang Credit Circle, Famous Awards, ng film Academy of the Philippines, ng Uriya na Awards at ng MMFF para sa kanyang panula sa larangan ng cine. Kin na lala na rin shanang gawa ng alibaligta sa ng unyo ng mga manunulat ng Pilipinas at ng palangka Awards for Literature, at ng palangka Memorial Awards for Literature para sa kanyang contribution sa panitikan. It is our pleasure na ipakilalis ng yung lihat, sigin ng unreakini. Papang kina ka bahangka, puse? Ndi na mal? Mejong hapo, kasi para ang desa star star parin ang kasi. So, maraming sa lamat wazapaggayas sa episode natin sa Ustiniq this month, alam namin kung gaano ko yung kubisig, kung ano yung routine yung in kung gaano ko yung committed sa mga projects. So speaking of projects, we'll at dahil sa situational natin ngayon. Usually, ang first question namin, is, kung musta ang paksusulat ngayon sa panagpanag pandamik? Actually, mas nakapaggusulat ng ako ngayon panagpanag pandamik, as in yung bumtawan last year, todo, soolatalag ako. Itin ang mga naman ako ng kapat nayscribes, isang libro yung pulang nesilia, and then maraming mga notes sa one or two nabas na gina ko ako. So, mas nakapaggusulat ng todo. Kasi wala yung lahalabas, datatrafik, ang mag-aanditulang sabahay, so. So, writing, ang binaling ang ko. Sir, ming ming ming pamipan ang miplan ako yung isulat na skip, or nabela na ming nalaman sa pandemiar, sa patalat ng COVID-19 at present, whether realistic, or non-realistic na approach, meron nabobakayong mga. Iya, concepts na, sinisi mo lang? Yes. Well, wala kong naman ako sir. Lama naman sa workshop, dipalagay mo na kikwento. Maligali ka kung writer. Nabi sa begin, laging, am working on a number of projects sa bay sabay, ganan napokagulo. So, I have a couple of scripts, natin atro bahu, may natakos na, may tinataapos. And then, mga dalawadon, connected sa COVID. Yung nabela naman, may tatlong nabela kung sinusulat, dipatling, but. Yung isadon may portion ng panon ng COVID, pero hindi entirely. Apatap period yung nabela. So may periodo na may COVID. I think it hindi may iwasan, kasi. I think bahagin na nangbuhay natin ng sining natin ng mundunatin yung mga nangyari, this past years, at the year, nangyayong nangyari, COVID pandemic and hold. And magigin bahagiparilala ng moay natin. So, para kaya ko hindi may iwasan eh. Malakigin magigin pagbabagos, persepyo natin sa story tiling natin sa processo natin. Lahatyon maapektoan ni. So, papasap, papakasap. Pero ayo kung kung mga nangangangatrabahan ng masyadong David. Kaya kung mishan ko ang shusapun na na itong script na to hindi, magagabing COVID, kasi bahagin David, bahag malakin, dun sa panon yung yung. So, lulu bugan ko siya. So, ang shusapun na doon. Sir, the mansion yung unknown yung workshop. So, kasi anoye, parang isayan sa major contribution yung industria. And, well, batch by batch, every year, ang success nito, and. Well, masayang ako, kasi naging part ako ng workshop ni niyo. So, nung. Hindi ka ito mi-gil, parang kaya, nung situation, tumuli-paren, ang nangyayong line-atay. So, ang po yung naging adjustment ni niya, David. Nungunan, tali, parang nga. na tigade ako in away. Nakaw panot o na putel yung batch 23, na workshop, hindi patapusia, hindi, pandanik na. And, nung kakawinko. Hindi ko ding mga kakakrap. But, I realize, ang damirin ng advantage essay. Like, nung workshops yung usually 30-35 lah na kakasha to sa library. So, ngayon, nakakoron ako naman ang master classes ng mga 400 ang participants. Or 200, 300. And then, dati yung ibang workshops na gabiahipa mulaong si bu. Every Sunday, may banag-babiahipasila, bumaagas to sila every Sunday, parang tating dito. May ang workshops to. may mga batch ako naman nga. Tagal, polan, tagal, south to ria, tagadabaw, Dubai, and so on. So, lumawak yung range ang dumami, yung no-workshap ko. Sa naging napakalaping advantage siya. Ang disadvantage naman, ang daming nawa wala, kasi, workshoping kasi, forming a community. Eh, kala-kalahate kami katawan na nakiginay. And, ang signus na na nabibiginay sa akin, "Blo ang body language nagano." "Moxly audio." "Nidito naka-gita sa galaw ng katawan nilai." So, communication namin. Halus na lilymitahan ng audio. Eh, sa-actual workshop na min sa-lait, latin sa library. Lata ng paraan ng communication sa isa-kisay. Audio, body language, task. Nangkilai, silenst. Maski yung silenst don ng laki na nga sa sabay. Napakomyunnilikit. Dito pag nagsilent, siyang nga lagba, may problema pa, sa internet. So ganon, sa ang daming naman. Nasi rayata. Oh, may si rayata. Sa ang daming nawa wala. Mga raming nakakong compensay. Pero siyang fren natin can compare with. Kami saan maskiindik, naayon nagsasalita sa library in some portions of the workshop, yung mgaayat yung stillness, may nakakong communicate na. Dito, hindi ma-tawa. Doon ang mga palatayon ng sabay sa sabay. Nangkilikula, and so may communal viewing experience and learning. Dito ang hirap magbalapas, mag-iscreen share ng video. Naglala, nangkiputol, and so on. So, maraming mga problema. Pero, hindi ako to-migil, nga ming ming workshops. Kami saan nagawabulap, mga 3-4 workshops at the same time. Arong 3 day work, 3 session workshops. May workshop ako ng Instagram, news and current affairs, not 12 sessions, and so on and so forth. So, overlapped, hindi ako to-migil, at all, maxulat, mag-borsha during this entire time. Sir, ano, nung parang pre-pandemic, kasi-madelas ka yung mag-support ng mga-nang mga events, at n-kayang at nang mga festivals. And, agikayong ng-dino mo-g ng-mog nang-mga-tawa para mga-picture, ng-mog aspiring writers, at natanong, nang-mog iba-ibong question. So, sa-damin ng interview, na-na-na-experience, nyo sa-damin ng-riders, nga-naka-usap nyo. Ano pwiyong parang usualing tinnatanong sa inyo. Ano yung parang paulit-ulit na natatanong. Of my head. Nang-mog nang-mog nang-mog nalapit, nong aspiring writers. Iba-yong tinatanong nang-lumalapit, sa tinatanong during seminars or workshops or symposiums. Pag seminars and symposiums and workshops, yung solang mo-antinatanong nila. A-writers born. Pa-nokolala-banan ng mental block. Mga-kapag-sulat-bako, ay-patigil-tigil, nintipin at atapag-sulat ko, laging natiputu, laging natitigil, yata ko maroon magsulat, batin di ko matapas, sasin-sulat ko. Usually, paulit-ulit ang maskisana magsalita, workshop, and so on. Pag nag-gagyunay na, tatanong inayon, yung doubts na, writer-bako, bakit inayon d'akumatapas, nang-mog-sulat, nang-mog nang-mog nalapit, nang-mog nalapit, nang-mog nalapit, nang-mog nalapit, nang-mog nalapit, na isulat ko sa not buko sa limpro. Aida, pag isulat puna, labyu, or pag isulat pudul sa boyfriend puna, happy birthday, or pag-mas personal, pag-mas personal pag-doan. Ang ano, or sa minil na na, third year na natin ko sa sinimala ya, every year, inaalap ko po kayos sa minilap para mo pa-pictures, na naka-tri years na po tayo or four years na banag pa-pictures. Sa para mo yung kayong intemitrelationship, don sa sa mayakaanon. Mayad yung mag-kayback, yung contest nila. But for a writer, like me, na naka-kong takti ng workshop, na tuto ng kumang pahalaghan, ya appreciate, ma-injoy, yung ganong pag-lapit nila, na natin na siwakko, na i-a-ko, na-wee-field upward ako, na-aparang writer ako, hitin na mga napuhar-tista, ang iunap ng ipun realiz. Da synkan niya. Su排 ua dinollow ran I-it канakut могу sigang, but tha phosphovalt di rapra niya kaya problem. Kaya pop camera niya hok nambuora ang kail Last application mwkang bitter-rindi ng COVID cafo puas enmgunin ang b bushunde deta political politics. Atigating ka manga ang apa-janol do동girip ba ba? May salabi. Sa sinimala ya. As in andame, Hindi ako maka-sihar, Hindi ako maka-maka-braing ka tolai. Kasi-lapitan ng lapitan. So, nantingin ang kaka pagod eh. Pero eventually, I realize, Hindi, nangkibigasi sa kina-energy. Para magpatulay ako mag-sulat. Para magpatulay ako maka-ramdam na. Mahalagangin ako ako. Pinapahalagang na ibang tao. So, na enjoy ko na. Sir, naman sa'yong anong anong nalagin tanong a-ridersborn. And nangkakaro ng doubt. Anong naman yung disualing sa good-nid. Jan. Sa good-nid. Well, I'll say, "Ahorin, nang pinangan nga ka ko hindi naman nalam ng aparans ko kung writer ba to syriki ng pinangan ako hindi." And maskin ng-susulat na ako hindi-farin sure, ako mo writer ba ako hindi. Naka-papablish na ako. Naka-papablish na ako nang gilan nangpanchali na naka-papasak ako sa pili-kula ng hindi-farin ako sure, kung writer ba talaga ako. Naka-papabang na pasakang kung profession. I think, "Kindi nga wawala yung doubt na writer ba ako. Mahu say ba ako." Because I think, "Part ng trabajo ng writer, yung trying to be good." And yung malay, "You will never really be that good." I don't think you will ever get to a point where so-ber-anang hu say na yunak. Tapos na ang kahosayan mo. I think, "Kindi mo, ever manarantin yun ay." So, "Wala ang katapos ang ang pagdutulak sa serili para pang nubutiing kupa-pagbubutiing kupa." Mahu say ba talaga ako. Writer ba talaga ako. Tamabah. I don't think, "Ever massasag 100% ng sigurada yung tanong." So, sa-liko, "Tang gapinyo na, you will always doubt yourself kung mohose kayo, kung writer kayo, and even if sure kayo, like sure, kung writer ako. And more or less sure na mga kumawase ako. But I'm not really ever sure kung masaya na bako sa ganitong hu say ko, kung mohose ang ako. And tamak na ba talaga. Hindi, you don't feel satisfied. Hindi ka contento ay, you're dreaming. And because you're dreaming, you keep worrying and you keep doubting. So, we don't get to ever leave you. So, because sa-kali lang, so, live with it. And see it as a good thing. Now, you keep doubting, because it keeps you on your toes. It makes you eager to learn new things. Up to now, I keep learning. I keep watching movies. I keep reading books. Trying to learn. But, it'll make you understand. But, kuna kisutan to película. Up to now, I keep absorbing new things and old things at the same time. Trying to grow. Up to now, I keep thinking, I hope I'm still growing and I keep growing. So, yung doubts, I think, gazalin muyon para lagidang na pokos. To keep growing, to keep learning. So, wak mung imitawa ni yung. Pag na mala yung doubts mo di, wala kangan na jena magtutulak habi. Manda ka na magogro. So, tanggapin mo lang, mayirap, pero that's part of the work, the job, the passion. Sir, sabi niyo, ano yung ano, na paraong you keep absorbing in. Malakang kasi-dewa yung. In-influents and relashron niyo, sa music. Para ang ano pa yung music fan, ka yung ano, paraong hindi alam ng maraming naka-relalas a inyo. So, ano yung meron, paraong aseraiter bakit music yung mas. yung malakang impluent, sa or driveri niyo. Lagi kung si-nasa-bito eh, pan-baxasalita ako eh, sa mga tao at nababangitang music eh, nasa-akan. binak-matasa-akan music eh. Mas-matasa-akan kasi-fion, or literature, or journalism. Sa-sa-sapasyon ko. Mindi ko si-nasa-bing mag-ahiya, sa-kalida darbat. Pero sa patinging ko, sa-lab ko, siyang nasa-tas. Gaya. Mas-fan ako ng musicians. Mas silanginaka, bulabdu ko noon, sa anggiles, a-rood, et chatarang mga butleg, chaps, recode-chaps a-rood, dahga-ha-na-paka-na-gaha-bola-pura. So, music sa-hakin ng number one passion, mag-milungkut, mag-masaya-paka-limakapak-sulat, whatever I'm doing, music. Every night, pag-natutulug ako naka-irphone ako, sa ispatipay, ng music, lahat ng-classing music, sa-naka-anawak. It drives me, it keeps me going. When I write, naka-kinagok sa music. So, back at music. Parang sa-akin ng music, sa-akin lang, napinyang ko, parang boundless ya. Words, kasi, "Injaw ako mag-sulat, at injaw ako sa words." Injaw ako, sa-akin lang, ma-imang-a-meer, na-tapula, ma-imang-in between-a-so-a-so-of-course. So, mala-kirin ng-anawak, ng words. Ang-kili ko lang kanun din, pero may-exact-ne sa-kili ko, ay-yong artista-yona-ya, yong music, ay-yong score-yona-ya. Pero, pat-na-kili-kinagok sa music, par-syang-infinity, parang-wala-syang-harang, parang boundless ya. Sa-akin. Parang-ung sa-an-sya-pun-a-pumunta, pa-ilalim, palawa, pa-ita-as, and so on. Sa-akin ng-sya-kha, may-infinity-chewd, for-my-yong music. May-irapaliwanag, pero kanun yung nara-rambamang-pupad, na-kikinag ako ng music. Pero, indian, if I'll be really honest, baka-mampinakata-tong risan is because frustrated ako, musician. And, daco, marunong-kumunta, nung mga-kumpo sa music. Kung makiging-anest ako, pa-kak na man yung nampinakata-tong rison, kan? A-stang-pir-sang tinging ko, because, hindi-kushia-magawa. And, hang-ang-ang-ak-kudas-nung-magagawa sa kanya. Anything until I die, never-kushia-magagawa, man-anapili-akong, tagaham, and like writing, aban-agawa-ang-fu-o. Sububang-kuho. Pilikula-maskipo pa nung-mimilik, ay kung direct, I think, borrowers, alam puyan. Pero music, such a strange, misdewis world, up there. So, what do you think of the element sa kanya? So, what do you think of the writing? So, this is the "MetroShift" so, what do you think of the political aspect? Because, what you see is the weather script of Sinosulat, or roads, or short story, so, that's it. The political aspect, that you think of. I think, I think, I think, I think, the aspect of my success, that, the things that I see in the political, political, sociological, economic, economic, economic, I really implement my efforts in my work, especially when I was studying in UP, so, I think, I absorbed my work in the political aspect. And it really helped organize me. The learning process in the political aspect of the political aspect, it organized my being, my thinking, my writing, everything. For example, if we were talking about the past, we would be talking about the past. We would be talking about the past, the past, the past, the past, the future. We would be talking about the past, the future. So, the past, the past, the past, the past, the past, the past. But, when we came to this point, I didn't expect that, it seems like, the political aspect of the political aspect, I'm just saying, so, I don't know how to explain this politics, or the literature of the past. It seems like, it's not a separation. But, I write, whether it's a love story, or it's a, it's a strike that is used in a place, or injustice. It's not political. It's not human rights. It's not, it's not in a perspective, it's in a condition of the past, and it's in a way that, it's not political. So, I didn't expect that, it's not political. And my class is a topic that's not political. And I didn't expect that, it's in a way that, I really could, subject matter, it's political that I'm not. It's not, it's an implementation of the political aspect. It's political that I'm not. It's not like, it's like, I just want to go to a perspective, and I'll go to a perspective, and I'll go to a perspective, so, it's not political. So, it's not a separation. And I'm glad that, it's not a separation. Because, when I was a student, I was very conscious about this separation. hawas saying na. Teka ato para ng wala politika, indito politikal. Ganyito lang to, ganyito lang to. Pero hindi, nga wala na sa kina. Iba nipagawa ko ng kualito na rong komp. Mian ikos sa sabi, rong komp lang to, indito politikala. Yung perspektip ko doon para yun, wala biya disain perspektip na tamigawin to yun. Manay rite, abot, astray. Astray, area incident. So it will be politikala. Yung patingin, patingin ko para yun. So yun, pero ang laking nga implementa, ang laking pa salamat ko na. Daman na pa sa stages and phases ng learning. Tung kulsa ngayari sa atin sa basa salipunan. Yung karam yung sa mga listen or chat answer. Siguro, especially mga mata. Kedala laka yung bilang script writer. No, pero yung si-seriki ay nagsil sa lep din ng nabalay ng equipment naman sa naysay. So, amo all this jangas para sa inyipo ang yung pinakamadaling sa natin. At alin ng mga pinakamahira. Anong pinakamadalit at alin pina-kamahira. Ulan ang mga what you nights. Uyan ang mga mga nga. Ay, I want, bagayong mamili, I want to write and I enjoy writing and I love writing. And that's my passion to write. And it's the only thing I know. How can I do it? Magsulat or maturus ng mga tauko pan magsulat. So, bago ko sabihin kito magsulat? Kito magsulat? Kito magsulat? Kito magsulat? Kito magsulat? Kito magsulat? And there's this documentary, recently, last year, the painter and the thief. Dikolang po familiar ka, hose. Merungi sa'ng painter nababay, who comes from broken relationships. And then, mme melalakayong mga paintings na, nina kao. And so, nahuilih ng mga kao ng painting na. And then, nung sa courtroom, kina-osap na yung thief, nitoong painter, at siya nabijedan sa thief. Pwede patayong mga kai-bigan, pwede patang mainterview, makawusap. And so, they started talking to each other, mga schedule talks. Sinimulan ng i-paint yung thief. Portrait. Pinapaint niya, nag-re-kita sa lapinapinapinapinapinapinapinapinap. Antil one day, mesindon sa documentary, din ang galayong kaki-podon sa painting na, nung thief. And patanggalyan ng tumingin yung thief. Mahabang moment na ex-cena, naka-tingin yung thief don sa painting niya. Don, naging naman nababay. Samokak nung thief, kita mo yung halohalong, nalong kutya, humanga siya, naman ha siya, naging very grateful siya, naluluhak siya, nagmixlah sa mukanya. Kasi, for the first time, hindi-slife, hindi-slife, he is sin. Anak-a-kita sa nya. So, for the first time, naka-kita niya, mga naka-kita sa kanya. Avery damage person. And that's what I want to do. When I write, kus kum magsula, tumbusa-strike, tumbusa-rongokong, mong pusa-fw, tumbusa-nana, mong pusa-sang patang nawamala. Naka-kita nating sila, mga itpaka-mang ha. Kasi, for the first time, naka-kita nating sila mbohin nabukay. Kasi, hindi nalapin sila naka-kita. Is it that's what I want to do? With whatever I'm writing, whether novella, obili-kula, or musical, et cetera, and so on. That's what I want to do. Pero, kumpata nangin ngapakwa nong pinomadaling, paraan, at processa nang paksula-sakin, at pinaka-injoriko, sempre novella. Short stories novella, or even an fiction, they use words, kasi, mga nangpata-pahanggang nga nga, fascinated ako sa salita. Kumpata nunggamitin ng mga salita. Kumpata nung sila paksampal sa palin sa salisa. Kumpata nung sila pang ispadahan. Kumpata nung yung rhythm ng salita, mga gamit ko para habang bina-basa mo hindi manamanan nautisyong salita para kanalang sumasa-masa hagos. Kumpata nung pangagamit yung salita naparang yung yung kama, nangpapawisan, yung period nangatay, o natigil, o natis, yung kisong naga-gamit yung salita naparang humachisyan. Sa beli ko lang, hindi ko yung totali magawak. An like sa novella naga ko ako ako. Sa beli ko lang, ay-fil limitado, nung limitado ko, because yung medium, video nanginigin ang medium, pero sa novella, I can do that. I can use words. And so on. To do the magic or bullagaing kayao, I'm gonna do it. Kayao, kung makalimutan yung salita or makapasuk sa sa walang. So yung. So, sa novella ko yung naramdamang. Sa novella ko naramdamanan totali, completely writer ko. Masayapalin ako sa scripts. Pero. Speaking of. Hindion. Hindi ako totalion. Hindion. Hindion. So, speaking of our novels and well-language. Sa striking yung uika nang parakebi, sa kayao mo pola, dahil, paraong may somehow influence ng script writing and narrative voice. Pero, Hindi ako si mereon siyang paraong experimental narrative voice. So. Deliberate mo batto, paraong sa nangagali niyang. yung. ganong laro ng lingwai ng uika. Pero, hunang hunak kung titing ng yung. nag-in faces ng paksasulat ko. Even if nandun yung ako, sa makasinat ko, nandun yung kayban din. Wana wast writing ng high school ako. I started when I was in fourth year high school. I can share stories ng ang gang nong palangka years. So, you pee. Iba yung gamit ko ng prosa naman. In a way. Hindion naman totali, but in a way. And then, after that, nangkara nang time na nag-istrim of consciousness ako. Nag-in-mahirap nasahing. Ganayang sabang na mag-demag. Or da pitapun. So, nangkara nang stage, nangkara nang palang malaput, nang gamit ng prosa. And then, nangkara nang stage, Na gusto ito na ako Bang Aya ennit na gin vanit,, Aga maali relieved akohan nga raighter O hindi ako nagpakam sa isang kulasilang, so I enjoy going through a phase, I just a phase, this is a phase naga nito. Aito ang phase na gusto kung totali may tindi anil ako, when I wrote that I say in kula nyesilia, I wanted to follow the path of the next step. I was concerned by the past, so the past is not my perspective and my stance as a writer. I was writing a cabilesan na wala, or sabang naman temak, or even when I was writing my scripts, so na kiibai-bye. Maestred na ako, I think makikitan na manyang thread na ako, pero may ronding may laking pa ka kaiba. So, so, so, so, so, you on, I just wanna go along with the road then, just to train na iba. It's not like that, but it's like that, the other types of stories that are different, like, different children. The first novel to Ibarin, so, so I don't know what I'm gonna tell you, but I just wanna go along with the path of the path of the next step. It's a phase naga naga naman, but I think it's a phase naga naga naman, that's the trend that we're making. The cinematic is, and I want to use that. I mean, I'll talk about my own film. I'll just go along with my scripts. I can't just go along with it. I'm not that good at it. I'm just gonna go along with it. I hope all the good points of my life, all the bad points, all the good things that came in, I hope it's good. I'm not that good at it, I'm not that good at it, I'm not that good at it, so, I'm not that good at it. And so, when I came out with Para Kibi, I was like, "I'm gonna tell you that I'm not that good at it." I just wanted to tell you that I'm not that good at it, I'm very cinematic and so on and so forth. I'm not that good at it, I'm not that good at it, I'm not that good at it, but I think it was my consciousness in operation, and I'm not that good at it. Kung ano ako, at this time, day one. Pero, I'd like to say one thing. I'd like to think that Karmie ng Sinong Sula ko may musicality. Goso ko may music ya? Kong hindi ko pa yung na achieved, I want to achieve that. I want a music there. I want certain movements. I want. Pagdoksusula tawag ng script, madalas may lakiliscpertur ng moralos influence by a song by one more song, madam George. Para kaybie ko, bivalavida. So, the structure the rhythm of bivalavida is there. So, I'd like to think, maybe ilo shun, maybe part of the conversation to a baga musician. I'd like to think that somewhere there may music yung novella, may music yung short story. Even yung scripts na totawag akin, mas kina'nd handulan ng director at iba pang somehow may music somewhere there. But especially in the office, kung mula pa yung dan, and like achieved that in my coming works. So, para sa mga listeners, no? Ang grisent na pa? nisuri kia ay yung ng cool ng nisiliyak. Ako lexwantong ng mga EC. So, zuri kia, pwede niyo pang IQA'nta sa menyo aniyo approach ng pagsusilat ng personal na sa naisai. And yung pinigdaan ng buong libru na. Akay, well again as I said, and I keep repeating this, kasi ito yung totong magulokat maligalig na rai. So, I was planning to write part 2, sequel ng paraka iby, and my first novel. Na 3-4 years, ano pa na para ka iby ko, naka pa ming ko, naka first, taping ko, naka pa sa tapo sa upto now. Naka pa pinapang ako, naka pa nga ko, naka na to, and then paraka iby na part 2. So, yung sinusulat ko, somewhere along the way, big lang sumingit yung thought na isang article on writing during the pandemic, and then it notes ako. Sandali, I found myself writing the book. And putting aside the moon. Yung nabela, yung dalawang nabela. Gana naka mga operate. Van bahay ni Marta came out, ibang plan ako nisulat. Van ko, nalam yung lang ibang plan mo, sa ko nano ako ko dolo. And I allow it, na parang ilo. Ekumjan ko mo, sa to munta ng, domalo yung nang ilo, di yung susunta ko. Hindi ko, ipipiliit na itong kakao yan. Ais, so, so, kasi kasi gidi to mga oin ko. And madali siyang nasulat during the pandemic, sigo ro mas po, tapo pandemic, maka, kungong sabahay, and then, I wanted it to be an easy book. I just want, naparang yung commencement, kanog ko, di ba, yung speech ko ng graduations sa PUP, I wanted it to be in that way. Naga nong kadali, parang kina kaos of latin, i-nayon, maka sa salita sa kanila. And so, ilo mo ba, sa kanon. By the way, nga kalitana ko sa pihin. I was, as I from the two novels, I was starting to write my memoirs. Nahin di ko matapos tapos, kasi ang dami kung gustoong ilagay at dynamic, kasi ngayon. He is holat. So may pumasak na pa ka-memoirs doon sa essays. Okay, asya may pa ka-memoirs, may say may say may mo-mars siyang tono, because, dati, intends yung ko nag-gumawatal mo-sudatal ka-memoirs. Nisanda ging, yung essays. So sa kasi kita pusing ng natalhat, yung kung easy reading, easy writing, napang, and, and out with it. So, yung. So, it's the easiest book, in-quot, and I'm not putting down writing books in general. It's the easiest book, nana-sulat ko. In my life. La ko pan di panamang books, nana-sulat ko. Asa, yung. So. For our last question, as I go, so, kasi ang kuyang panon, sir DG, dominated na tayo ng media at na visual culture. So, kung puninyo, ano ang relevance na panitikan? Ha, well. Para yung relevant, nyo media and panitikan. Nyo niya mo podin sa peonging work, gan, pao-walk yan. Hindi ako, tiyuristic na tayo. And, kung siya na bimong saturated tayo ng new media. Ya, ako saturated, na ako ng new media. Kata bico ang cellphone ko, na double day, na kita text ako, achatar, chatak ko, na gusul ko. Nakaispartify ako, every night, pag-matutulol. Karamean ang bina-basang pungayon sa internet na. Ang haba mga articles. And, ang dami ko na babasan mili-pro before. Nyo na bawasan yung dami ng li-pro, kasi ang dami-dami ko na babasan. Articles na work-reading dinaman sa internet. And, then, streaming na mga pili-kulan ang dami-dami. As in, ang dami, doong amin ang ini-streaming because of new media, dahil, so, so, so, yung, platform sa damami-yung shapes. And, ay-take it as something really good. Well, a no yung pure na pao-rman ng pili-kulan ang documentary, ko nang nabela, ko nang short story. Nabuk sa na, nabuk sa na siya. Domami na yung platform, sumami na yung shapes. Sa'akin ni'ndi siya maguloh because maguloh na ako na ako na ako na ako na ako. Sa'akin ni'ndi siya maguloh. Sa'akin, opportun ni'ndi siya na out of all this go-lo. Makaka-create tayo felle at in不了ag natin pa 'yowhen we involvein eyes cairming 2020 ang putang na ako? tayo na ind운데 sa sa Freddy ay mag, Theon, Pollak salptakong ang cóok na mayon. Ang minhyoy of the one. Ang pinotong pinot ang ba, Because ang mga ko na na ko ay prola Ny하지. 四Music Swing Halu Whalot ang Miwaka na minha Uw Haha Su Thank you Ang plan ako doon sa amapola. Yung pagpinabasamayong lipro saap ko. Pagpininod mo to maruninig mo yung tulak niiponipasyo. Pagpininod mo to makakakita ko panon nagdada meon ahatang manananggal. Pagpininod mo naman to mayo 'yo lang. Pagpininod mo to ngayon may be graphics. So para siyang multimedia-obsource ako ano man. Inilaka ko yung soko ang saan sa ang kaibigan kumpanya, grub sa bila mahal, Or ke langan ang Wi-Fi, etchata etchata. Saan anggangnan discarriage ako. Gino ako siyang Pinten book. Pero ang regional plan ko doon, Ganon siya amultime media. So in short, Ang ibigong sa bihin, Most likely even at the time of it ako, Sa challenges ng new media. Because you know English long ago. That way you know. And yung force. And because you fracture the end yung force novel ko. Ganon din ang takbong ayon. Apat na period siya, martial law etchata etchata. Ang hangpresent time. And maraming karakter siya. At maraming chapters. You can read it from any chapter. Pweding sandalong yung chapter dito o doon. Opinipabinasamutu maagiverdoon etchata. You can read it in any order. You can read it na. Itulang. You can read chata. So it's. So ganaway ca. In a way may pathan yung media. In nanlinyarsya. And if you have a chapter of the chapter, Pweding itong ipulatong masaindan itong garylab. Yung extendad itong mulit doon, Pero another perspective. Itong karakter na toganitong. So, Ganon ganan siya. Yung yung force novel. Kanilapong isudan. Pero that's what I wanted to do with it. And I think in a way may pathan. Reflections di siya nang nabsorco na nyung media. So, so you know, I'm very open. So I don't see it as something that I can put into my community. Literature. Because I don't have a lot of literary canons or high-brow or love-brow. I'm not a poorist. Ganon. I don't like to just go. I'll go into the way that the teacher said in the painter and the thief. I'll go into that way. So, when I was young, I saw the news that I was able to get the money. That's it. For the first time, I was able to get the money. So, I was able to get the money back. So, I was able to do that. I mean, whatever, Love-brow, how you grow, whatever, you know, post-modern, post-modern, whatever, you know, I'm a little late, but when I accomplish that, I'm really good. Alright. So, again, I'm very happy and happy. I'm very happy. And I'm very happy. So, I'm very happy. So, I'm very happy. I want to have projects, more books, script, or film, I want to have a lot of fun. And, of course, I'm going to post a discussion matter or DM episode. I'm very happy. I want to have a lot of fun. Next month, I'm going to have a lot of fun. For the next year, I'm going to be able to get the money back. I'm very happy and happy. And this is my favorite. The USD CCWLS Podcast has been brought to you by the University of Santa Tomas Center for Creative Writing and Literary Studies. Please follow our Facebook page at www.facebook.com/USDCCWLS. You can connect with us through our email, www.usthynicpodcast.com/usd/inig/pld/[email protected].