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Episode 560: Special Episode: Inside the Top 10%: What the Best Gyms Do Differently with Wodify CEO Brendan Rice

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Episode 560: Special Episode: Inside the Top 10%: What the Best Gyms Do Differently with Wodify CEO Brendan Rice

In this podcast episode, Michael Keeler introduces a special series from the Business Futuricorns podcast, sharing live trainings from the Unicorn Society community. The featured training is by Brandon Rice, CEO of Wattify, who uses data from thousands of gyms to reveal what the top 10% do differently. The core insight is that success comes from consistency, not secret hacks. Brandon breaks down three critical levers: client retention, client acquisition, and revenue optimization. Using a sample of 1,000 US-based gyms, he shows that top gyms achieve a client lifetime value over $4,000, compared to under $2,000 for median gyms, driven by 97%+ monthly retention and high attendance rates (75% of clients attending 11+ classes per month). He emphasizes that small improvements in retention compound significantly, illustrating that a 4% retention difference can yield $228,000 more revenue over three years. A key tactic is gamifying attendance through milestones and branded rewards (e.g., stickers, shakers, t-shirts) to drive behavior and early engagement. Brandon stresses that these strategies are not revolutionary but require organized, intentional execution to transform a gym's performance.

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[MUSIC] Welcome to the Business Futuricorns podcast, where we help Jim and studio owners create a business and a life they love. I'm your host, Michael Keeler. Join me and the Business Futuricorns team each week for actionable advice, expert insights, and the inside scoop on what it really takes to level up your gym. Get ready to unlock your potential and become a real unicorn in the fitness industry. [MUSIC] Hello, fitness business nerds. What's up? Welcome to another episode of the Business Futuricorns podcast. Today, we're doing something we've never done before. Today's episode is part of a series that we're doing. And it's based on something we do in unicorn society. So our unicorn society group, every single week, we run something we call live trainings. And these live trainings are for the gym owners and leaders in our community. And all those sessions until now have been behind closed doors. They've only been available to our unicorn setting numbers. So what we did is we picked four of our favorite live trainings we've done recently. And we're sharing them with you now here as part of this kind of limited podcast series. These are real trainings. We actually did for our unicorn setting community. They include frameworks, case studies, and all the questions that our members ask when we're in one of these live training sessions. You're basically getting a seat in the room. And so whether you run a gym or lead a team in your gym or hope to do both someday, I think you get a lot out of these special four episodes. And the one I'm sharing today actually comes from our friends over at Wattify. Wattify CEO, Brandon Rice. It's a live training for our members recently. And I thought it was just so insightful. Brandon and his team, they sit on top of data from thousands of gym owners around the world who use Wattify. And so Brandon basically pulls back the curtain on what the top 10% of gyms actually do differently, who are Wattify users. And here's the thing is the answer is not some sort of secret hack. The answer he gives in this presentation is consistency. That's really the secret to the top 10% of most effective gyms. He breaks down concrete, steal this tomorrow tactics across three levers that matter most. One is keeping the clients you have. Two is bringing in new ones and three is making the revenue math work. And he goes through all of that. He talks about how to gamify attendance, how to leverage outdoor activations and events. He talks about what he thinks is a smarter approach to discounts and the quiet power of small improvements made over time and how they compound in your business. I thought this was such a smart talk, Brandon so wise. And he used data and I think a really compelling way. So if you if you'd like to have your strategy to grow your gym backed by real numbers, you're going to love this episode. Let's dive in. I'm really excited for today's weekly live training because we're partnering with Wattify for just I think over a year right about a year now. And I've been such a fan of this company from afar for a while and getting to know them and work with them really is just really reinforced to my admiration for all the work they do for our industry to put together tools and solutions that make it easier for us to run our gyms. And Mark and I don't pick our partners lightly. We think a lot about both the integrity and the values of the companies who work with and the fact that they have solutions that are actively getting better all the time. I can also say that's so true about Wattify. I actually had to spend some time with Brandon this past weekend. He came to our New York City to monitor meetup and it was great just to hear more about how he thinks and how they go about doing the work three work they do every day. I'm so excited to have them here today. The floor is yours. Awesome. Thanks for the intro Michael and super excited to be here talking to you all today. I'm giving kind of a modified version of a presentation I've worked on for a couple of years now related to bringing insights from the data that Wattify has access to as a company. So we work with thousands of gym or gyms around the world and one of the unique perspectives that gives us is using the actual source of truth data from those gyms, meaning like where the system of record for billing and attendance tracking and programming. It's not a self reported survey. It's a it's a hundred percent accurate data on how these businesses are performing and so we have a large sample size and then what I'm going to get into is we take a cut of that sample looking at the best performing gyms in certain areas and we just try to figure out what they're doing through looking at deeper into our own data and just talking to them. And then I try to package that all up and presented and hopefully an interesting and engaging way so you can get some of those takeaways for your own business and honestly none of it is like groundbreaking revolutionary stuff. It's probably tactics and strategies you either heard of or implemented already or maybe considered what it might not be right for your business. But what I'd ask is that to get the most out of it, I would just encourage you to keep an open mind if you are doing something maybe there's one or two ways for you to pick up on an element of it you're not doing or improve on it. And if you've tried something before maybe this is a chance to try it again, but one of the questions that I always get asked around this is what do we see as a company the best gyms doing. And my answer to that is evolved over time, but at a high level, what it is consistent, organized and intentional execution. So they don't do everything, but they know their clients and they have a business strategy for the initiatives they want to run and they do those things consistently really well. A lot of the tactics I'm going to share aren't groundbreaking revolutionary, but they're there aligned with that idea of consistent, organized and intentional execution quick introduction. Michael already talked a little bit about what if I were really excited to partner with business for unicorns on the CEO of the company, where the largest independently owned platform for fitness and wellness entrepreneurs, we make a management software as a core of our business connected to that is digital performance tracking marketing automation. And I'm just a lot of sweet of tools to help you run your business, but prior to what if I started an e-commerce company and I'm just passionate about entrepreneurship I've been working in this area of business for over 12 years. And in my personal life, I just like try new hard things and being a beginner at a lot of different areas of fitness. So whether it's crossfit ultra marathon's we're just talking about high rocks earlier, there's a big high rocks event going on in New York right now. A lot of these two jets to whatever's humbling me next and we're whatever I can learn from it's going to help me lead what if I'm a better way. We're a tech partner that's how we think about ourselves as a company, not just a software vendor and we're partnering with some of the best fitness and wellness businesses around the world and we help attract and retain clients manage your business and then continue to grow over time. And then we're going to have a lot of different presentations, certainly not a lot of five pitch. It's a sharing tactics that I'm hoping you guys can take away for your business who here can identify which one of these athletes is fitter. And then say it's a trick question. So obviously a leading question fit means different exactly, but whatever your definition is a fit you probably need to know some other things like performance benchmarks, body composition, health vitals, maybe just like how they're feeling. So if you did know all of that and you were trying to become fitter as a person and you found out she was fitter across all those broad spectrums, what would you want to know about that individual. What she does for her training Jessica. And then you have the brownie points for coming off mute to you would want to know yeah what she does for training maybe the programming she follows the habits and nutrition the tools that that she uses. You don't to understand the activities and the systems that person does in order to achieve a goal that you're looking for as well. So along the same thing, which which one of these two affiliates is more successful or gyms is more successful, right, you don't know it's a photo. And what you would need to know are things like the businesses performance metrics how many members how long they stay the business health some KPIs like growth rate and maybe some other financial KPIs like how much their members are paying on average or all those other things that would help inform which gyms more successful. And what this one was so just similar to the athlete but now put yourself in your business owners shoes, what would you want to know about that gym. That's same what are they doing when they're doing for marketing sales how much the things cost how long do people stay. Exactly the behind the scenes data that tactics they're using and maybe just the advice from them right that was a big part of that meetup we just did with the business for unicorns group in New York. So what would you suggest that I do or how could I run my business in a way that you've been successful with one of the mistakes you made that I could learn from. And so really that's the premise of this presentation what I've observed is that there's so much information out there and a lot of fitness founders gym owners are engaging in what I call random acts of strategy. Means maybe you launch a new program offering next week because you heard that's the new trend or you decide suddenly you're going to have a new onboarding program for clients and then two weeks later you forget what it was because you moved on to the next thing. So without organization consistency and some of the data and the tactics we're going to share you're making those decisions and you're running your business on instincts and not insights or on maybe interesting headline in the news. and not strategic organized execution. So this presentation is called inside the top 10% what the best gyms do differently. Our methodology to explain how we got this data, we took a sample size of 1,000 US based gyms. So we didn't include everyone like some outliers. Most of these are mostly group based functional fitness gyms. And we looked at the top 10% of those gyms, the top 100 gyms based on their average client lifetime value, new client growth rate, and average monthly revenue per client. This, these metrics help control for location and demographics. So if we just looked at like how much revenue the gyms making per month, the price skew towards maybe urban areas or really large gyms, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're operating really well. They might have really poor retention, but it might just have a different way of generating revenue. And so these averages showed us a hundred gyms that were spread across the country, different demographics, different focus, which really helped give us quality data. And then like I was mentioning, we took that quantitative data coming from our gym management software, as well as qualitative survey data from the top 10%. So we actually talked to these owners and got their insight. I'm going to go through a few interesting data points behind each of the categories, share in this meeting, I'm going to share one tactic from each category. We have some resources at the end where if you want to see a few more, I think we have three tactics per category, but I'm going to focus on one each, this presentation, share some advice and tactics you can implement next week. And at the end, go through a calculation and an illustration for how small changes over time in businesses that operate heavily off-recurring revenue, most gyms do, really can be night and day difference from the business being successful or not. So let's start with client lifetime value. Client lifetime value is a great measure of combining average revenue and retention. So this is on average how much do clients make you over their entire lifetime at your gym. The top 10% are sample, that number's a little over 4,000, and the median is a little under 2,000. So what that shows you is there's a massive difference in lifetime value at the top. And if you have systems in place, have a really strong retention, and you have a healthy client base in terms of the revenue that you're charging, remember, you can generate over $4,000 in lifetime value. And what this allows you to do is I start with this one because once you have this in place, it makes your marketing activities that much more efficient unless you go spend money on whatever marketing channels you're activating or marketing initiatives and add clients to a business funnel that's already really healthy. Most of those clients are gonna stay and earn you on average over $4,000. Now, taking this one step further, we wanted to understand what's the difference between those gyms that have 4,000 versus 2,000 lifetime value. Two things that stuck out. The month-to-month retention difference and how often their clients are showing up. So month-to-month retention in the top 10% is 97% or higher. And the average across all the gyms in the sample is 93%. Now, 4% might not sound like a huge difference, but that is a massive difference and again, it compounds over time. It will go through, I was looking, we'll go through a little scenario showing how that compounds. Client attendance was the other metric that really stuck out in this group of customers. Through all of our data, what we've identified as the strongest indicator of retention is attendance. Just consistency and how much so showing up. And there's this magic number around 10 to 11 classes per month, where if they're showing up that often, there's like a 99 point something percent chance they're not going to cancel that month. And what we found was in the top 10%, gyms had about three quarters of their clients were coming 11 times or more per month, versus less than half and the other 10%. So these two insights really guided the tactics that we saw driving these numbers and then ultimately driving that lifetime value number. So here's the illustration I want to show. To illustrate, or the graph I want to show to illustrate the difference between 97% and 93% retention. So let's just take a gym that has 100 clients and average revenue is $150 or those clients and they're adding five new clients a month. So really just simple scenario. Two gyms where that's the exact same starting place. One gym has a 97% month of month retention and one has 93%. And I want to show you two things. The first is how many members they have over time and then how that translates to revenue. And so if you're adding five clients a month, 93% retention means you're actually losing more members than you're gaining. And so you tick down until you get to around that 78, 79 member mark and that's where your retention, your acquisition, even out. And so you just plateau at that number. When you have a 97% retention, you can see you actually are adding new members and it can grow and grow over time. And the revenue over three years in those two scenarios is $228,000 more for the gym with 97% retention. And so that's just one metric where a few percentage points can be the difference between 150 plus members, less than 100 members, and a huge revenue gap over time. So what can we do about that? What are some tactics to drive up? The one I want to talk about today-- again, this was all about consistency and attendance and getting your clients to show up. And I want to talk about this idea of attendance milestones with goals and rewards. So attendance milestones are really the idea here is a gamification system that you can implement to drive the right behavior, specifically attendance. And I got really obsessed with the topic of gamification a few years ago, like the psychology behind it. And I read a bunch of academic research. I looked at a bunch of examples outside of fitness in the rest of the market. And it's just mind blowing how small gamified experiences really do drive behavior. And an extreme example is in the gambling world. Like sports betting and casinos, they have these little systems to gamify people's engagement. And it literally creates addiction. And fortunately, we're in a much more positive space to society where creating addiction is a great thing. Getting people really body and to consistently showing up will only have a positive impact on them and your business. And so this tactic is about creating an element of gamification for rewards and milestones based on attendance. Here are just two examples from a few of the gyms we study. CrossFit Westport said, we have a 100, 200, 300 class milestone board. I laid in members who show up consistently and put in the work. It's already of honoring commitment and keeping motivation high. And then the strip CrossFit said our retention program, and even right there, retention program, the fact that we're even talking about having a retention program is maybe a starting place. Ask yourself, what's your retention program? Would you write down if you had to identify what that means? Starts on day one. People get milestone rewards at 3, 6, 12, 25, and 50 classes. The entire package costs us about $20. Package means the rewards they give out, but the long term buy-in and retention well exceeds that. So there's two different strategies here, but both of them employ this idea of recognition and reward at attendance milestones. This is the package I was actually visiting a few weeks ago, so I took a picture of it. This is the package from the strip CrossFit I was mentioning. And so at three classes, you get a sticker, six classes, you get a protein file, nine, you get a shaker, 25, you get, I think, the t-shirt and 50, you get the mug. So the idea is you're getting them bought into those early wins where there's a huge drop off in retention the first 90 days. So if you could get them over that hurdle of the first week, the second week, the first month, the first 90 days, and along the way, not just give them rewards like Amazon gift card, give them rewards that have your branding on them and are tied to their fitness journey around the one month. Mark, maybe they start churning protein shakes because they're working on getting stronger and they didn't do that before. So a shaker bottle is a relevant reward. And then even the t-shirt reward at 50 classes has the giant tagline earned, not bought, which was an intentional tagline. It wasn't just the name of the gym. It was a recognition of the work they put in. Here's an example. I've seen these at more and more gyms that I visit now where the milestone-- part of the kind of milestone ceremony is a physical board they can sign or something with their name on it to recognize that achievement. And then here's just one more example of a branded piece of swag that you could get for something like this one is 2,000 street parking as insane retention. So they actually had people have done 2,000 classes if you can imagine getting that level. So the idea here-- creative flexible system that works for your business and your average, the attendance goals you're trying to drive. But across the board, what I've seen with all these programs that are done really is have their reward be some form branded swag that they can't just go by from your retail store front. You want it to feel like they earn something. It's unique. Maybe other people ask them about it. Also, get people a chance to have their spotlight moment, whether that's signing a board or highlighting them on social media or having a fun photo backdrop they can take a picture in front of. That's a really important way to make it meaningful for them. And it creates amazing marketing collateral for you to show off on your social media and for them to share on theirs. And then, like I said, a few of these examples start small to get people hooked into getting over those early hurdles. and then you can quickly extrapolate to much bigger milestones. So once someone reaches 100 classes, you don't need to get them to 110, you need to get them to 150 or 500. I've been to gyms that have 1,000 class boards and have a few members on that. So just think about spreading them out in that way. And then I'll share just a personal example of this because sometimes, especially at the beginning of systems like this, it might feel like it's not working. You might be like, I don't know, I'm doing it, people don't seem that into it. But one, just this idea of consistency, like it's not going to change your business overnight, but the value is in the long term consistent execution. And there's stuff that will happen behind the scenes when you give people their spotlight moment that you won't realize. And so the example I'll share is my wife is really into Pilates. And she goes to a Pilates studio called Solidcore, and they do a really good job with this. And so she hit her 100th class, and this is their spotlight moment. The Solidcore logo, and they have a little board with her name on it, and they set 100 classes. And they might have taken this picture, and she walked out of the studio, and they're like, I don't know, we did another one of those spotlight things who knows. But what does she do? She texts me right after, and she checked this out. She's proud of herself. And so she's sharing it internally in her network. And then she went on a run on Strava, and she even shared it as the picture on her Strava run. And it's like, you know what? Hell, yeah. So these things are long term brand building tools for your business, that people, if you give them the right moment and the right way to spotlight them, they will share with their network. And it's the best marketing you could possibly have. I'll move on to the next section, but there's just a bonus tactic here. If you are a performance-based gym, if you're doing any sort of programming with strength, especially, one of the tools Wattify has is performance tracking. And what we've seen is that there's a 20% improvement in 90-day retention rates for gyms that are doing performance tracking. So whether you use Wattify or a different tool, our R's is built into our gym management system, but performance tracking and showing people with data that they are improving is a no-brainer for retention. It provides proof of progress by doing things like hitting PRs. It provides some of that gamification I was talking about. So you can see there's a PR star here. There's leaderboards. And it provides a community environment through congratulating each other. So really would encourage you if you're not already doing some form of performance tracking, get it out of a spreadsheet or notebook and put it into a system where you can take advantage of all those other value ads. The next topic we're going to move on to for the top 10% is growth leaders. So those were the top 10% of gyms that had the best new client growth rate. To measure this, we looked at a period of three months. And we looked at how much their client-based grew over the course of three months. At the top 10%, the increase was 15%. And the median of the full sample was 2.5%. So again, big disparity here, clearly something different going on with how these gyms are executing in order to grow. The tactics, the theme of all these tactics was spreading more exposure, more positive exposure to generate more sales. So we have tips and advice around digital marketing strategy, specifically for Google reviews and online reputation, how to activate a word of mouth referral program. And then the one I'll focus on today, because it feels a little relevant for the seasonality we're in, is how to run outdoor activations in-person outdoor activations, outdoor classes that can drive significant growth. So free outdoor classes. And if classes feels like not the right term for your business, think about it as free outdoor activations, but I'll talk through the lens of classes, because that's the one we see most often, across these top 10%. Really sound simple, but really effective play in terms of driving growth during warmer months. Or if you're somewhere I was talking to a gym owner about this the other day, who was in Phoenix, and he was like, dude, we're not doing outdoor classes in the summer, you already remind him. So it's okay. But just consider outdoor meaning outside of the walls of your gym. So that could be an park. It could be in a brewery or a restaurant concept that has a room where you could set up some sort of class. So this quotes from a gym called Alchemy 365. They're actually the Gemmaigo to in Denver. And they turn their summer, they turn summer into their biggest growth opportunity by launching a consistent outdoor class series. And it really worked. It went from a 50% drop in new leads to a 200% increase. What I love about this tactic is that it's so flexible. Really, the only requirement is you're trying to get somewhere where your clients can participate. They can bring friends and you get this additional kind of exposure, like almost like a billboard. Because if you choose somewhere in a high traffic area, other people will notice what's going on. Just another personal anecdote to share. When I was in New York for the Business for Unicorns Conference last week, I went on a run on Saturday morning and there was this company Bandit running. That was hosting this outdoor activation down by a park. And there must have been like 75 people there that little giveaways. And everyone running by was looking over and trying to understand what they were doing or what this company Bandit was doing. So it's a great way to get attention to your brand. The way to run it, I'll go through these pro tips and then suggest some of these, some more anecdotal advice. But start with focus on members and those members bringing friends. So definitely leverage your member base as the built in marketing to get attendance. Those are the people who trust you and be like, oh, fun. That's build it into your event schedule. But make sure part of it is bring a plus one, bring a family member, bring someone who you think would enjoy this. The second tip is probably the most important, which is creating a schedule so you can manage the consistency and logistics. I've had owners who I've talked to get really excited about this idea and run one event and they're like, that didn't work. Only a few people showed up. Like, okay, first of all, the first time you plan it, it'll probably be the biggest lift logistically and marketing wise because if it's the first time you're doing it, you're trying it all the first time. Or if you haven't done it during a while. And so what I mean by creating a schedule is look at the next few months, pick a handful of dates, commit to a location or locations, figure out a marketing strategy you're going to use for all of them. And then commit yourself to trying it for a period of time. And what will happen is even if only a few people show up to the first or the second one, if you do a good job with that, it will compound and they'll come back, they'll bring more friends, people who may be missed one or two or at your gym will ask other people, like, hey, did you go to that thing on Saturday? How was it? So the gyms that are winning with this are really consistent in their execution and they plan far enough out where their members can plan ahead. So saying, hey, we have an event coming up in three weeks on a Saturday morning, let's people block their calendar, talk to a friend, instead of, hey, tomorrow, come to our outdoor event, they probably already have stuff going on. And a lot of these work well outside of normal class time. So either weekends or maybe evenings. And then moving down this list, bring the energy and funds. That's a huge piece of it. The programming, what works best is usually a pretty simple program for whatever the workout is. A lot of body weight, depending on where you're at, maybe some weights, but you're not doing anything too complex because you're not in your gym. It's hopefully a big group. So sometimes you want to staff it with a handful of coaches, but you're probably not in a space where you want to risk any sort of injury or anything like that. So the programming can be simple, but high energy, bring music, depending on the venue, hopefully, it's somewhere that you can bring a loud speaker to. Have your most energetic and fun coaches out there for the people who maybe aren't already members at your gym to get a great first impression. And then like I was mentioning, if you do have a concern or there's some limitations around the weather in your area, you can do it just as well. It's a lot of creative stuff here on social media, indoor at social venues. And a lot of businesses actually will be excited about this and offer you to use their space for free because your clients are going to stick around and buy a coffee, or a beer, or whatever that business sells after the fact. Yeah, Michael, I just saw your chat about outdoor classes and central park. That's awesome. It was, yeah, it was really huge for us. We went up usually back in 2012. We brought our whole team there. And so we had 5,500 people with a bunch of trainers all training them. It was such a fun vibe. I really do. I actually miss it. It was really such a good time. And because we had attracted such a crowd, we had a lot of local other local businesses who want to partner with us. So we often had free smoothies afterwards, or free health food afterwards. And it was a great activation for those partner companies too. I love this idea. Yeah. And to build on that, just that idea of consistency, the first one, maybe a local business owner shows up and participates in as, oh, you know what? I could come help you with the next one. I could bring this thing. So having that event schedule and having a medium term, let's call a plan for how you're going to have more than just one is really important. And yeah, they're just fun. I think I first saw this concept start to take off from gyms during 2020 and 2021, where they kind of had to host outdoor stuff. And a lot of them have kept some version of that because they saw people mixing it up, people like getting outside and just having a slightly different experience. So definitely one I would encourage people to consider. This last theme we're going to talk about is revenue maximizers. This is the most behind the scenes tactical in terms of billing. There's a lot of ways to maximize revenue. You could introduce higher value offerings. You could work on a lot of different things. but I'm gonna focus more on the billing side. So that's where we have a lot of insights. So average revenue per client, the top 10% are all over $170. The median is around $112. The interesting thing, even at the top 10%, it quickly starts to skew up a lot higher from there. So there are gyms averaging 200, 300 plus average revenue per client. And those usually have a very focused business model. Maybe they're only offering personal training or high ticket semi-private training. But what we saw here is even at the larger group model, the top 10% breaks into that 170 plus mark. And there's some really interesting things that they're doing, again, just from the billing standpoint, to achieve that average revenue. So the two things we looked at here from our billing system is what percentage of them are doing a weekly billing instead of monthly. And then how are they doing? So on the weekly side, that means either every week, every other week, or every four weeks, it doesn't have to be every week. It just means the cadence is based on weeks and not months. And in the top 10%, a quarter of the gyms, 25% at some form of weekly billing, versus the rest of the sample, that number was only 10%. And so there's definitely some strategies on right for every business. But what we've seen, the math is you get an extra billing cycle every year. That's just the basic math on it. So if you have an offering that you're comfortable with and lends itself to something like buy weekly billing is my favorite, because if you just do every four weeks, it can be a little bit annoying for clients. Why aren't you just billing every month? Buy weekly billing is a little bit different. But regardless, the proof is there. One out of every four gyms is executing weekly billing. And that's getting them an extra billing cycle every month. And that's driving up the average revenue per member. The second piece of the program is the number of the average revenue per member. The second piece which I'm going to talk more about today is the discounting strategy, because this is hidden revenue leakage that I think is a lot more prevalent in people's businesses than they realize. And at the top, in the best gyms we looked at, less than 5% of their revenue is discounted, meaning if they just build everyone at 100%, what would that be? And then we back out the discounts less than 5% being discounted. But the rest, it's greater than 10%. And there's a direct correlation with lower average revenue and how much of discounting. And so when you think about optimizing your billing and offerings in order to maximize your average revenue, the discounting strategy is to standardize your pricing and lose especially the long term or lifetime discounts. This is a draft to show what I was saying in terms of where the percent of revenue discounted nets out across the study we did. And so you can see as you go from the top 10% to the 10 to 25, 25 to 75 in bottom 25, it is a just direct correlation between that discounting strategy and the amount of revenue that are letting it away from their business. A scenario to run through to illustrate what this looks like in a real business, but if you had something like a 15% discount, that could be a number of things. But whatever it is, just say of 15% discount that you're giving to 50 of your clients and your membership is $150. So that 15% discount, which doesn't sound like a ton, means for every client, it's $22.50 a month off their membership over 50 clients in the course of the year. That's $13,000 over $13,000 a year that you are not getting as revenue that you're losing through discounting. And so that example just shows how these long term discounts can add up to in this instance, probably an entire billing cycle for a jam or an entire extra month of revenue. So what do you do about discounting? It's tough because you can't just get rid of all these discounts overnight. You could, but that probably would impact other metrics that would end up being net worth for your business. And so one of the ways to think about this is this 90 day kind of sprint 90 day project for a discount purge. And here's how I would break it down. The first piece of this like day one is just to get organized with your data. And you might not know the percent of revenue you're currently discounting. They might have added up over time. You might have had 10 different discounts. You forgot. Oh, back in 2023, we ran that promo. I forgot about that. So step one is get an organized list of every membership with a lifetime discount. And so those are the most important, even if they're smaller than your short term discounts, they're the ones we're going to want to fix. So all all your memberships organized by who has a lifetime discount. And then day two to 30. So the first month of this sprint is getting those cleaned up and doing so in a way that minimizes term risk. By every single person that you're addressing with lifetime discount should have a personalized communication. A lot of them have probably maybe had it for a while. Maybe it was an agreement you made with them three years ago, because of something specific about the gym. But if you have confidence in your business in order to execute this, which. I guess I should have said at the beginning, if you don't feel comfortable charging full price, it would probably other stuff to work on. If you're confident in your business, then it's ripped the bandaid off, but with a thoughtful personalized approach. So don't just send a massive email to everyone saying, hey, you have a new price. Send a personalized communication. And again, the map checks out like it's worth it for you to do this work. The best is in person. The second best is a phone call. The worst is an automated SMS. So send a personalized communication and give them 60 days notice. So again, you're trying to do this three months sprint. We're at the end of it. You can go focus on something else. So give them 60 day notice. Send them a personalized communication. And now you've taken care of your lifetime discount cohort. Then for days 31 to 90 while you're waiting for that 60 day notice period expiring for those people to move to full price. Standardize a new short term discount strategy. So I am not and we haven't seen from the gems who talk to a. Requirements to never discount anything like sales and offers are a great way to get lead conversion. And so, but you want to think about those with scarcity urgency and being time bound. And so a. That might mean something like by scarcity might mean hey, we have a few packages for personal training or we have our unlimited memberships. We have 10 of them that we have left to sell. So that's scarcity. You're giving people a chance to get something with a limited quantity urgency means it's limited time. So maybe it's a get shredded for the summer, but you have to sign up by the end of the month. And then time bound going back to the beginning means in a way where you don't have to do this project again in three years. So all of your discounting and sales strategy should have some time limit associated with it. It is it and they start paying full price after that time expires. So that could be most common. We see two weeks or 30 days. So we have to get a few days of the time and then we have to get a few days of the time and then we have to get a few days of the time. to be like, "You know what? That 30 days for $30 offering was a great catalyst. It helped me get over the hump of signing up and trying out your classes. Now I'm obsessed." And so 200 dollars, maybe they'll happily convert into that. So think about and plan a short term discount strategy that checks those boxes of scarcity, urgency, and being time bound. And as you execute this, be direct, confident in human. I talked about the importance of just leaning into that personal, personalized communication and also be comfortable kind of bragging about your business and just think about all the different ways you provide values. So when I've seen this executed well, usually the communication includes some form of stuff that's been going on at your business, especially if you think about the time between when they first got the discounted now. That could be new equipment, new programs, new amenities, new class offerings, whatever it is, should be direct, confident, and lead with value. Own the situation. Don't try to hide it in the footer of a newsletter email or not tell them until the last minute. And then this last piece is a technique to help potentially ease some of the friction of the conversation for the people who are getting a lifetime discount removed. You don't want to end up with a compromise where you're like, "Okay, I'm going to take your 10% discount move it to a 15% discount." So if you need a lever to pull where you feel like you're giving them something in order to get back the full value of their membership, consider perks or giveaways for goodwill and not more discounting. So that could look like going back to the attendance milestones that could look like branded swag. It could look like I had one gym was talking about that at least preferred parking spots. So they were like, "We gave away one of our best parking spots for a few months." So however you want to strategize little perks or value or giveaways, lead with those if you need them and not compromising in the middle of where discount could land. So those are the three tactics I wanted to share. The last kind of piece of this, then I'll see if anyone has any questions at the end, is the math of how compounding improvements add up over time. We did one scenario with retention, but this is what I'm really passionate about because I think the understanding that we're all in this long-term game of building sustainable businesses, and at least that's what we're we subscribe to. And so if you're in that long term game, it's important to pick your head up out of the weeds sometimes and understand like these numbers will materially change your business. And so I created a fake example here from using real data. So Iron Forge Crossfit has a hundred members. Their average revenue for members 120 bucks, they have 94% monthly retention. And they're generating six new members a month every month right now. So that means they're exactly maintaining 100 members lose six gain six month. And they're generating $12,000 a monthly revenue. So let's say they decide for a few months, please pretend it's October to November, they decide they're going to work on their business. And their first focus is increasing retention. They employ some attendance milestone, gamification tactics, and their retention increases by 2%. So it goes from 94% to 96%. You don't have to get to the highest level. It's just about relative improvement to where you're at today. So 2% increase the monthly retention. Next, they move on to December to January. Their focus is increasing average revenue per member. So they maybe they changed for monthly to buy weekly billing. They go through that process to remove lifetime discounts. And the results are an extra $10 per month of average revenue per member and that extra billing cycle from the buy weekly billing. And so those are the two things they did to their business and the marginal improvements on those KPIs. At the end of 2026, if you do those things, you're going to have instead of 100, 124 members, an increase a monthly revenue of $4,000 that's recurring. And an extra $16,000 from that extra billing cycle. So the business itself, if you just think about any year moving forth from there, has increased annual revenue by $65,000. $65,000 is the difference between profitability and not profitability from hiring a coach to having to keep them part time. From hiring a front desk staff, from investing in a new marketing program. So the point of that illustration is the compounding effects of the numbers we've talked about really do make a difference on the business and let you reinvest and continue to grow from there. One quote that I really liked when we did this just goes back to this theme of what the best gyms are doing is tackling one thing at a time, getting really good at them, creating a system, and then moving on to the next thing. And having that system in place to keep everything else flowing. I hope you took something from the tactics I shared, but if you were interested in all of them, the last thing I would recommend doing is all of them at once. So the think in an organized and systematic fashion, so you can move on and focus on the next thing without having to continually come back and remember work through the weeds of the last thing you just did. And then the final comment I'll make here is I talked a lot through the lens of financial success and profitability and revenue and these business KPIs. And I care about that because I see way too many gyms with really passionate owners and awesome communities and programming that got a business. And when a gym can't afford to keep the lights on, we can't serve them as a partner. They can't serve the people in their community. And I think it's the worst thing in the industry that we see. And so the reason I talk about financial performance is that helps us all stay in the game. Now what does success look like when you're actually in the game? For most of you, it probably means helping people. It probably means helping people be healthier, lead happier lives, helping your local community, giving coaches and managers career opportunities to stay in fitness. And this is what I've realized. Is that passion and that genuine interest in helping people can't exist without profit? And so another quote from a customer in the study summed it up really well, you can still help people and treat it as a business. And in fact, treating it like a business is going to be better not only for you, but also for everyone else. So I don't want to pretend like I were all running these corporate businesses that are just trying to maximize revenue. We're trying to help people. We're trying to help transform lives and keep the population healthier and keep our communities healthier. But you can think about it like a business and that'll just help you do that even more. [Music]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The secret to the top 10% of gyms is consistent, organized, and intentional execution, not groundbreaking tactics.
  2. Top gyms focus on three key levers
  3. Client lifetime value (CLV) is a critical metric; top gyms average over $4,000 CLV, while median gyms are under $2,00
  4. Month-to-month retention in top gyms is 97% or higher, compared to 93% average; a 4% difference can lead to $228,000 more revenue over three years.
  5. Client attendance is the strongest indicator of retention; top gyms have about 75% of clients attending 11+ classes per month.
  6. A key tactic to drive attendance is gamification with attendance milestones and branded rewards (e.g., stickers, shakers, t-shirts) to build early engagement and loyalty.

Summary:

In this podcast episode, Michael Keeler introduces a special series from the Business Futuricorns podcast, sharing live trainings from the Unicorn Society community. The featured training is by Brandon Rice, CEO of Wattify, who uses data from thousands of gyms to reveal what the top 10% do differently. The core insight is that success comes from consistency, not secret hacks.

Brandon breaks down three critical levers: client retention, client acquisition, and revenue optimization. Using a sample of 1,000 US-based gyms, he shows that top gyms achieve a client lifetime value over $4,000, compared to under $2,000 for median gyms, driven by 97%+ monthly retention and high attendance rates (75% of clients attending 11+ classes per month). He emphasizes that small improvements in retention compound significantly, illustrating that a 4% retention difference can yield $228,000 more revenue over three years.

, stickers, shakers, t-shirts) to drive behavior and early engagement. Brandon stresses that these strategies are not revolutionary but require organized, intentional execution to transform a gym's performance.

FAQs

The main secret is consistency—consistent, organized, and intentional execution of business strategies, rather than using random tactics.

The top 10% is based on average client lifetime value, new client growth rate, and average monthly revenue per client, using data from 1,000 US-based gyms.

Top 10% gyms have a 97% or higher month-to-month retention rate, compared to 93% for the average gym, which significantly impacts long-term revenue.

Attendance is the strongest indicator; clients attending 10 to 11 classes per month have a 99% chance of not canceling.

Implement attendance milestones with goals and rewards, such as branded swag for reaching 3, 6, 12, 25, or 50 classes, to gamify and motivate consistent attendance.

A gym with 97% retention can generate over $228,000 more in revenue over three years compared to a gym with 93% retention, due to compounding growth.

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