Episode 32|Unbreakable: Jessie Rogers Interview

It's awful! Yes, and what is the ASMR scene? I don't know. I'm gonna look at a brainer though. Or not autonomous sensory and meridian response. I didn't know that. Relaxing often sedatives and sensation. It's awful. It's awful! You're a fool! It's all of it! All of it in every single one of them sucks! I'm actually hiding in my car because my daughter is in a terrorite. (Laughter) I was like, "Okay, if I stay here, she's not gonna leave me alone." Yep, I know that feeling. Yeah. How are you during this corona time in shit? Honestly, I'm good. I feel like I was preparing for quarantine for a while. I say that all the fucking time. It's like this isn't new to me. I'm a whole body as it is. Exactly. And especially after having a baby. I would just stay at home mom for the first few months of her life. Being a stay at home mom is literally like the whole quarantine lifestyle. This isn't new to me at all. Yeah, I've definitely been entertaining myself doing different things. I see that. You're doing a trick in now? Yes. That yet, that is one of the things that I've been doing. Actually, my next Zoom call is scheduled for Tuesday for that. Not nice. I give people the option that we could either do a Zoom call after I get information from them. They're way their goals, if they have any medical condition, anything like that. I just like talk to them and come up with a plan or I can just like a meal plan written down that's catered to their needs. I know a lot of people like just have like one meal plan that they send to everyone that people can just click on and buy. But I didn't want to do that. I actually wanted to help people based on, you know, the first visit. Absolutely. Everybody is different. You can't have a generic meal plan for every single human body. Some people take certain foods different than others. A high carb diet might work for one person whereas the next person can't have a high carb diet. They have to have more of like a vegetable diet. What do you think about the, was it keto diet? Um, I mean, I have my, I honestly like, I don't like those kinds of diets. I think that we do a little bit of carbs in our diet. Sorry, my car is going. How much is it over there? What is it like 88 right now? Yeah, it's 76. It's muggy. It's muggy. It's not going on time. I went there with my sister a long time ago and she's like almost a decade older than me. So I was like 11 and she was like 18. And I was like basically babysitting her because she was crying about how hot it was. Like there was like, we had a bad experience with a cat driver. She's like kind of stuck to the, I was like, it's okay. Yeah, New York, New York is a whole different animal. Even the weather doesn't like people like the people don't like people. The weather don't like people. No, nothing likes anybody. It was just a fucking melting pot. How long have you been married for? We've been together for about five years. We've been married. We actually like physically got married in city hall. I believe it was in 2016. Okay. We didn't have like an actual wedding. You plan on it? I don't know. If we do have a wedding, I want it to be small and just like a destination wedding. It's definitely don't want something big. Yeah, destination weddings are really nice. It weeds out all the people you don't want. Right. So that's the thing. When you have those kinds of things, it ends up being all about them. Not about you. That's why I didn't want to have one. I have two older sisters, like I said, and then it's not going to be good. Yeah, and some of them are fucking expensive. I was like, "Ah, I'll pass." Yeah, until my wife was like, "Listen, if we could have done it again, I would have taken all that money and stress and put that shit towards a vacation." It turns a really, really long vacation because that. It was fun. I enjoyed it, but it's really not the greatest. Was she the one that wanted to do it? I think it was mutual. Both of us. I'm not married. Oh, okay. But I should be. I've been with her for a while. Decades. You think what, for a while? It's got at least 14 years. No, it's got to be longer than that. I feel like it's the same. No, no, no, I'm not that old man. I'm 33. No, no, no, no. Wait, what's 14 years? I've been with my girl for 14 years. Oh, wow. Yeah, when I'm here, though. Why? I don't know. I've seen people put rings on and then next thing you know changes everything. Oh, it changes, though? It changes the whole thing. I can see where you're coming from. Yeah. Is it there. What is it, domestic married? Is there something? It's like a domestic marriage. You're living with the significant other for over like, I think it's like seven years. Five years? Seven years, yeah. I thought it was like over 10 years. He got that, too. Yeah, it got a beat. So you said you had one kid? Yeah, this one for now. Oh, he, she? She. Two and a half. How is that? Mine's two and a half. He's two and a half? Oh my god. You're this two and a half, dude? Yes. His birthday, he just turned, well, not just, but he turned two in February. Oh, cool. Yeah, he's a little monster. He's the man of the house. Everybody calls him like, they call him big thieves. Because he is. I'm just the little kid that he bosses around. How old were you being quarantined with this? Well, it's. For me, it's decent because, you know, I have a decent sized yard. So I let him put. Like, we have. I put him like a bound house and I let him jump around and everything like that. And my wife, she is corporate. So she works in an office. So she's been working from home. Yeah. It's pretty good. Oh, okay. Yeah, sometimes he misses his friends. He'll ask about them because we had them in daycare. And obviously, once this whole quantity came around, we pulled them out. But. Right. Yeah. I was just. I believe like. What are you gonna say, kids? Yeah, I was saying I believe that this whole quarantine thing, because of kids. Even adults, like, it was. It's gonna cause a lot of mental issues, or social issues, and all that stuff. Because it's. It's gonna be longer than what we. You know, thinking is. And we're gonna be walking around with masks and being six feet from each other. And after. After it's done and we're vaccinated, if there is a vaccine, it's gonna be worse. You know what I mean? You're not gonna want to be. Kids are not gonna play with each other the way we used to be. And then, hopefully, I put her back on daycare recently when I started doing all of the things, because I don't want her to. to be in the house for that. Yeah. No way. That'll be awkward. And but their protocol has been pretty good like when we go in. Obviously I have to have my face passed on and then they take your temperature. They ask us a few questions like how was your night? Are you guys feeling and if there's anything wrong or her temperature is not right, they don't take her in. Gotcha. So yeah, that's really fine and I only be there for like half of half a day in the morning so she gets a little bit of socialization that way and then the rest of the day she's basically trying to raise the house. Yeah. What has been destroyed in your house so far? Oh God. The most recent one about that. She um she was painting and then she put the paint all over her cell and she's like look mommy makeup and then she had it on her hand and like she instantly starts trying to put it on the walls. No. Like our couches are already kind of destroyed because she did that to the couch and she's quick too. Yeah. Yeah. And then she went and did it to the wall. Well that sounds like uh like an amazing time to clean up. Well good thing you have her in daycare you know for that half a day right. Give yourself some some type of a of relief. Yeah so um going off that uh the day. Yeah. Um so you do the only fans during that that time so it's only like a certain period of time that you have it um set up what is it because I don't really know much about only fans um yeah yeah I heard you did like a live thing or is it like did you just upload stuff? Um so it's you can do different things you can live stream on there you can post pictures you can post videos you can send people custom videos through the messaging um and it's also it's very interactive so the fans can message you there anytime um and I think it's a lot more simple than other sites that are kind of similar like I'll just uh I I opened a clips for sale account very recently and it's still not like fully activated because I haven't fully figured out. And the only fan is like super simple and also the two differences between those two sites is only fans let's you keep 80% whereas clips for sale only let's you keep 60%. Well I'm 90% so you get a bigger revenue off of it. Popular right now it's very beneficial for content creators and for me. Yeah that's that's that's actually dope. Um now if it on mommy asked me why did you create no fans? Well um I was actually talking to one of I actually I don't know that I woke up one day the idea came to my home I may be a count but I didn't tell him about it and then I had one of my fans messaging on Instagram asking me about that like oh have you ever considered doing all the fans and that's like well actually I actually do have an only fans I just never told it because that's the biggest thing you can whether I should do it or not and then you know after like sumbacking for it I was like okay fine I'll do it and then that was the fan that like posted my only fans on Reddit and everyone was kind of I saw the comments a lot of people were skeptical about it because it wasn't coming directly from me but I did give permission to do that. Oh I see that too I was like wow she's back and like you didn't age a bit. Oh thank you. It's like you're taking some type of models too so over there you do have it you know I'll send it this way you know I give you my address I'm really going to send it to you. Yes it's like I try to go to sleep early I try to eat healthy I haven't drink alcohol all in a long time too. I'll stop. All of that stuff. Well I'm over here drinking some tequila so I guess I'm screwed. But you're also doing home I see you're doing yoga. Right you do a little bit of yoga have you known then? Yes I do yoga. Yeah. So that helps again get a little spiritual out of it. Yeah yeah try this being sane and ill especially with a two and a half year old in the house. Right stress to kill people too. Yeah absolutely. The ad does the ad does. How did you they just like how did you break the news that to your husband that you're going to do only fans? Like was he alright with it or? Yeah when I actually had the guts to tell him he was very supportive but I had to you know work myself up to tell him. I wasn't sure how to just kind of react and then I told him I was like oh yeah I was like oh yeah no that's why I'm here. You put me in my own decisions. Yeah I was pretty good that's a good guy. Are you enjoying it though the only fans? I am. I think we spoke to um I think it was Eva and I asked her like um what was the biggest um other than the revenue what is the biggest take from only fans and I think she said that she enjoyed the freedom like it's it's yours. Yeah over porn yeah yeah yeah that's true. Exactly I mean I can do whatever I want with the content I can resell it on a flips for sale if I want to I want to put it on point though if I can. And like the creative aspect that goes into it too I really like that. I love coming up with new ideas of getting to different outfits and all of that stuff. Yeah now I heard you say that you can um take the only fans content and actually upload it to like your porn hub page. Do you get anything out of that like a or it's just you're uploading it just to get more streams out of it or more more viewers. So as far as like like the whole verified porn hub thing I'm like actually new to that that's a new thing to me because when I was doing mainstream porn they they didn't have that as an option and so I I just learned about this very recently and I've only posted two videos on there so far and one of them was just a trailer for only fans and then I seen that and then I just posted like a blooper video on there um but I I heard that it's beneficial like if someone tries to pirate your videos it's easier for you to take it down when you have a verified page and then if we make any money off of that pirated video it'll go to you or I mean go to me. You figured only fans because I've seen it with like Netflix and uh Disney+ and the whole and all that shit there's no chance that they can pirate it from that app because they have the it was a DMCA copy right on it. How can only fans doesn't do that because I've seen a lot of people shit gets to well how come uh like I've seen it always pirated from only fans there's no other opportunity to put like a DMCA on it where it doesn't get pirated. I mean people do what they want to do. Yeah if you really think about it if somebody wants yeah if somebody wants something you can prevent it you can't really prevent it. There's gonna be a way around a loophole with something. I put it in my bio like I put like the first half of the DMCA thing at the bottom of my bio and I think it's very clear to people like don't do that but people still do so. Yeah. Yeah. Now have you got any weird requests during uh from your fans during any and the only fans? Because I thought she's got that I still got that laugh going on. I had I spoke to Christina Rose and Christina Christina told me that fans were paying like doing it all Yeah, Christina Rose she told me I had actually a very similar request But it was all my it's all my know is they want to do shit clay Yeah, oh Oh That's disgusting. I you know till this day till this day and I I swear on everything till this day I still never seen two girls one cup You watched it a second time I want to make sure it was really not I don't know I never watched it once I Heard about it so many people were like, oh, this is disgusting. You got to see it. I'm like I like I know like vivid details from everybody else around me. I'm not gonna watch it Like I I can tell you play but I play how it how it all starts and ends, but I'm not watching it Good girl do not Yeah, you don't watch that I think I was in high school and it happened and I remember Seeing a lot of people watching it on their phones and I would hear about it by the Yeah What's your age now you gotta be like 26 see that look at that Yeah, what she said watch it on the phones. I'm like wait, what high school high school. Yeah, that's what like high school I was like who she was she was too me How did you How did you get into porn? I mean, I've seen it like I read like certain things about how you got it get into it but For people are listening Actually, I got in contact with my agent through Craigslist and on the craigslist post It wasn't like very clear that it was porn It was just like oh some modeling maybe some mood modeling this and that I went into her office and She basically just said like that it's porn and then I was like okay, why not try it? And that was She didn't continue to be my agent because She technically Recruited me when I was 17 so my contract with her was a valid Oh shit and then I ended up having like two more agents after that Yeah So you filmed when you were 17? I was gonna say oh you did the interview and everything and then you had to wait a little bit Okay, got you got you now now um pricing wise was it like something where you like you like shit if I say no, this is stupid Wait, what did you say like the amount that they would give you? Persine like when when you went into the agency office the amount that like she said was it something like I opening like hope She does a lot or is like oh yeah, she gave me the monthly She said She said the average was between 20 to 30,000 per month damn She's still around can I sign up Wow She's like oh yeah this girl I think he was Cassandra. She's like she just brought up about a brand new Mercedes blah blah And you know obviously me coming from like A poor family like that. Look very appealing to me Yeah, absolutely yeah look appealing to anybody really Yeah, anybody 30,000 yeah, I'll do it too Shit I'll do everything so before the poop thing on that I'm not getting shit at all Get it I have to have a little bit of dignity bro like getting shit off of 20,000 sounds appealing though It does but I think I might have to bow out on that one Oh, yeah, so I was talking to someone about that the other day Cuz the gay performance actually do make one money in the straight one Way the gay guys And actually women in the industry also make one money I believe it Yeah, I mean And I'm saying I mean like like to be honest In my perspective if you're a guy porn star you're already getting paid like without money you're already getting paid Right. Yeah So that getting paid is just a bonus Not I heard they don't make that It doesn't mean about making money Your job is to have sex with women That's that's payment enough It sounds it sounds appealing it sounds appealing but she knows the story Of course it doesn't I think That are able to brand themselves the right way Do you end up Hitting good money like I know men well for our he's been in it for a long time like he Directs. I think he's doing twitch now too like he's just been able to brand himself and like Increase his rates when he does So I know he did a little bit more money than the average male performer Kind of shit got you but I think that takes time yeah, absolutely got it, you know, you got a master of the perfection You know How how long did you do a adult film tour it was about a year and a half Wow, yeah, so you know, I got in at 18 got out at like 19 and a half It it wasn't very long but it it felt like longer because I did hundreds of Content Yeah, yeah, unless she's figuratively Yeah, you yeah, you must have made a lot of money you must have made a lot Yeah, yes and now I mean, I guess I did but I I spent my money on unstupid shit So it wasn't like money that like I actually ended up keeping On the long run like I got my job and You know, it's like spending it like the stupid 18. No, yeah, you're you're young You want to just live life sort of fucking fullest you're not you're not thinking about what the hell I got to do later You think about what the fuck I'm doing right now That's true. Yeah, you're 18. Yeah Um was the boot job Something that was Required of you like did they say hey you should get a boot job? Maybe you'll get more scenes or was it something that you thought you should personally do? Um, it but no no one that really pressured me into into doing it There was this one director that like kind of suggested it um, but I I had a wanted for anyways just because You know, I was around so many girls that had already gone in and I felt okay I did feel like you would I don't know help me not look like I was 12 years old So I don't regret it I'm pretty happy with them now. No, rogrettes Yeah Yeah, um, so talking about all of this The the point in the tree you got some uh some good stories coming out of it or now Um, you want like some juicy I love juicy stories Um, is there like anything specific shoot away Yeah, shoot away, yeah What's tell us tell us the worst thing that happened so if you don't mind I don't know if it's traumatizing Yeah I think Bonnie rotten breaking my asshole Oh wait, what oh wait no, no, you got I think I heard about this That's the one that's the one with the spider webs or her tits Um, yeah But obviously that scene never came out and I was actually I was I don't know if you know who Prince Joshua is Oh the black guy. Yeah, I remember coming home and talking to him and he was like, I think she wanted to do that to you. I was like, that's kind of scary. What was you doing? Oh, what the fuck was that? We got some high school bullies in the porn industry. Yeah, there's bullies. And we were like, we were like, okay, we're going to make this scene epic. Let's get all these big toys and blah, blah, blah. And so she had like this huge, ribbed glass toy. I was really fat. And I, you know, I thought she knew how to fucking use it. Because it was her toy. But then she like just pounded on my ass. Well, really hard. And I ended up. Wow. I ended up out of promotion for like a whole month. It was, it was bad. Now that injury, did anybody pay for it? Because like, that's what though. No, no, no. Wait, you guys don't got like like a like a healthcare clause or something? No, we're, I mean, we, I don't know. They, we, we were, we were private contractors. So, yeah. I don't know if it's like that. But it's this thing that pissed me off most about that was like the production assistant texted me the next day asking if I could go. I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Wow. I'm physically not great. My ass. Like, I'm going to be shitting pancakes for the next month. You want me to come back? The fuck. Yeah. Fuck. Oh, yeah. That. That's fucked up. All right. So let's go on a lighter note than that. Yeah. Yeah. What's up with one? Give me a something funny that ever happened on set. Like a scene where a guy couldn't get it up or something like that. Oh, that, yeah, that happened when I was filming my movie, uh, Jesse Rogers. Unbreakable. Yeah. Let's clap it off that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was shooting like a girl, girl, girl guy. Uh, seeing. And me and my friend, which is on our knees for a long time trying to get this Christ dick up and it just was not happening. And then we took a break for a little bit and someone came up to me and we were like, oh, yeah, he's a state horn. Oh, well, this makes a lot more sense now. Who's the guy you got to tell us? Remember his name. But if you look, look in the back of the movie, you can probably see who it was. Yeah. I'm going to look at the guy's name and sweet. You have a message back, Bonnie rotten back and black. I got a bullet. I saw you. Like, like, like, came back. We got to. I'm sorry. I got a church. Famous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even get an opportunity to go down on her because like the first thing that we did, she just fucked it up. Oh, that was the first scene. Like you weren't in. You weren't even into the show. You did just happen right then and there like first thing. Yeah. You never encountered poor hygiene, aren't you? I actually have. Yeah. Wow. And I remember I did ask the girl to go do. Was it bridge bridge or be? I can't remember. I've been blanking on you. Why you say bridge of be though? They say, well, I've heard from multiple people that bridge. They used to call it bridge of being Bridget BV because it was bad. No way. Where was I for this? Yeah. I can't tell you. I did hear about what was in. She was like another skinny brunette with tattoos. My husband used to watch her, but I heard that she would like bring a gun to set and would be like. Super on drugs. I don't know what cocaine or something like that. She would bring a gun to set. Yeah. If I don't get my not offering I'm shooting everybody in this motherfucker. Yeah. What's the reason you retire? Like I heard plenty of reasons. I don't want to repeat the way no one's going on. But right here. I don't want to say what was going on. But we might as well hear from you directly. What's the reason that you retired? Yes, quits. So I started. So when I started getting irritated with the industry, it started with my agent. And. I had a pretty decent. The second agent that I had was pretty decent, but. At the rate that I was getting booked, he couldn't handle it because he was good at getting the girls who only did. Like solo and girl girl and didn't shoot very often like. So when I'm out of town. I. Me, I lived in LA. I was getting booked a lot and he couldn't keep up like there was one day. That he booked. Three big shoots in one day. Like my twisty street shoot was the same day as a shoot that I had for jewels Jordan. And some other shoot I was like, how do you like book all of that? Like, this not possible. Yeah, when you said you was going hard, I mean, you. He's going hard. Holy shit. Three and one day. No, I didn't end up doing three and one day. We had to like move things around. But then we we decided. You kept the jewels Jordan one. No, I ended up doing the twisties one. That's your Jordan though. That's your Jordan. That's a famous name. I got a different day. Oh, God. You just rescheduled it. Yeah. Yeah. I was on the high. I just had it to kind of rebel and start taking my own book. And honestly, like, that was the best time in the industry that I had. Because, you know, I. I had the freedom to set the dates when I wanted to. But obviously I ended up getting a letter from the lawyer. It's saying that I couldn't do that. And I had a five year contract. Well, the block. So he ended up like. Having some kind of deal with Derek from LA direct models. Where they could like both take a percentage from you. But Derek would take on my bookings because he was like. You know, he had other big girls. So he was able to do that. But I didn't know that he was such a. Very controlling, which doesn't really get open. Like sexually, I, I'm a switch. So I, you know, I like getting tossed around sexually. But I don't like being comfortable. in real life. In real life, yeah. Yeah. So I was getting irritated from him and then I was also hanging out with the chains. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I like the times where we had sex, it was enjoyable. And then one day I can't like remember what time. Maybe it was like the fifth time that I went to his house or something. He just kind of snapped at me and like crossed some boundaries, you know, like what I said stop or read. He just kind of kept going. Yeah, it was weird. Like he was like a weird moment for me. Like he was like banging my head on his floor. And then he put my head in his toilet when we went to the bathroom and like he wouldn't let me come up for air. He was like just weird stuff, sadistic stuff like that. I've seen a lot of things about him too, like he was doing at the multiple women. Right. So after what happened to me, I guess other women ended up writing him out. At the time I tried to tell people in the industry. And no one really listened to me. Like I went to my agent Derek, which was like the worst mistake. And he literally just stared at me with the blank face. And then he was like, so did you guys have fun? I was like, I just want to. Yeah. He just disregarded everything I just said. Right. I came to that conclusion that he's fucking sociopath. And I think James might be too. I don't know. I think a lot of people say he has like mommy issues or something like that. Yeah. So at that time, he was like basically the face of the porn industry. And Derek was one of the biggest agents. And so like for me, those two experiences and like me not being heard, which I kind of understand I was 18 years old and new to the industry. Whereas James had been like a decade, where you're going to believe, but like I just completely generalized the industry with those experiences. And I was like, okay, I don't want to. I don't want to be a part of it anymore. Yeah. So on another lighter note, because we keep going down this dark path. I don't want to go back to a lighter note. What was like your favorite scene of all times during your your little tenor in the dark road. The dark side of porn. To be honest with you, I know I get this a lot. Like people think that I retired because of my gang. I watched it three times. We're fucking. They are so professional and so respectful. Like when you get there, they make you write down what you're okay with doing what you're not okay with doing completely respect all of that. And even in the gang being there was one point where the director princess Donna was like, oh, can I fist you and I was like, yeah, I don't know. And she didn't she just respected that. And she just like focused on what I did say yes to. Shout out to King for that one. Yeah. Yeah. Amazingly awful scenes per king were definitely like the most mind blowing for me. When we did my public disgrace, I squirted like I can't even count how many times. Because I was enjoying it so much is drenching up the place. Yeah. That's the first for me. Hold on. I'll pop this up now with your hair. Okay. Yeah, I never seen that. You do that on only fans. That exactly like that. You're gonna put your husband on it too. I'm trying to convince him. Like I'm even having a hard time getting him to be in my tick tocks. I even have little bubble and you know, I'm trying to slowly convince him without being too pushy. I was gonna say it on push too hard. He's already given you permission to do only fans. So you got the one up right now. Let's say baby steps. Exactly. My favorite scene of you. I believe was you and Jada. You will from wearing different color. Different color bikini tops like the Borat bikini top. It was pink. You were wearing pink. Is he wearing green or something like that? It ended up looking really nice. It just. Yeah, that was my favorite. I watched that today too. In the pool, it wasn't very comfortable for my knees. I have this thing that has been killing me. I just want to get some more clarification on this. You know who me at Califas, right? Obviously. Everybody knows who she is. Now, she said in an interview the whole time, her whole time in the industry, she only made like 17,000. 12,000. That's right. 12,000. Even less than that. Do you believe is that believable to you? Have you heard something like that, especially from someone with the name that she has? She was such a popular person in the industry for even if it was a short period of time, but she was such a popular name. Hold on. I'm popular opinion of mine. I don't even think she's that hot. I mean, I'm not saying she. I'm just saying she has. She's like the huge name. Her name was everywhere. I've been sitting on this for a while trying to figure it all out. Oh, so you're in the same boat. We are. You're fucking your mind bog will do you like this? This makes sense. This makes sense. Well, you know, like directly, yes, that kind of makes sense, but it's kind of like, first of all, she's still using her poor name. Exactly. And she has a massive allowing. Like she could do so much with that. It's fucking huge. That's what I'm saying. Like a lot of it came out of the controversy that she had where, you know, that they were giving her sending her death threats and she liked that because she wore the hijab. Yeah, the scores that the Muslims wear over the head. It's called a hijab. Right. Yeah. The more you know, I heard about that. But I'm still like it's insane. Like that's like a famous actor, which Johnny Depp coming out of nowhere and saying, yeah, he's only made $10,000. You're like, what? He's still used to use the name. He's still used the name. Wait, no, it's impossible. Bro, what do you mean? You're fucking Johnny Depp. I know. I know. Yeah. I've been sitting here like trying to figure it all out because I didn't want this is actually the first time I'm talking about this because I kind of like understand both sides, but there's still some aspects. To the way that she shares her story that kind of confuses me. So I did it like really want to say anything like we disrespectful to her experiences, but at the same time, I don't really get it. All right. Now with that being said, we can cut this portion of the interview out. Give me something like what do you think though? Now now you can be as disrespectful if you want because it's going to be cut out the interview. Okay. That bitch is live. I think I don't know. I think honestly, I think she just she wants attention. I think so. Like if she was being genuine, if she was really like scared for her life. And everything that she says that she is, she would have deleted her social media or at the very least. change your handles like you don't need to keep that handle like you already have 20 million followers where is it still me a califa and then you bash where me a califa started like I don't I don't get it so you're basically saying in a way that you want to be such a nice person which I genuinely appreciate she's an attention whore and she needs to get over it right yeah gotcha now I'm I had a question back into the interview back in the end of you but you're what was your rates and you can put that in I that was fine I was cool what was your rates and what like I've heard of racism in the industry where if you're messing with a black guy they charge you more you get charged more or something like that that yes that's absolutely true wow well actually you get paid more money well yes they actually they make it like a thing like it's it's it's it's own category it's called interracial yeah and me being young and dumb I thought that it was that way because their dicks were bigger yeah that's right my guy it's a myth my guy so I held off on it for a while so I started doing boy girl and then actually when I figured out that wasn't the case was when I worked with I got booked with Nacho the doll who he's European but he's fucking huge and no one warned me that he was that big and I went in there sober like I would have like at least taken a shot or something if I knew it's like oh damn I he's scratching head like the actually did like 16 lines of cocaine if I'm gonna jump into this shit right now but I was the whole thing I was like running away but yeah that was like the day where I learned like okay this interracial thing I think I don't think you have anything to do with the size of the guy's dick it must be like some skin color fetish or something yeah it is because interracial technically is good to different races but when you look at interracial is always black yeah black guy white woman that's really when you picture and you had the first thing that pops up in jihad is black guy white woman and so yeah I mean I don't know what the protocol is now but I know that when I didn't they didn't make a big deal when the girl did their first interracial as if she was doing like her first a no or her first thing being like she could you know have an increased rate for that yeah they still I think they still have that they hold off and you get paid more some shit yeah right so what the website is black and very black black black yeah yeah yeah and it's huge like that website probably has I know it has a massive following but and the fact that the size is the whole interracial thing too so yeah yeah to think about it now days the fantasies are are such a huge thing there's a fantasy for everything there's a fetish and a fantasy for everything I see you doing that was it ASMR yes yeah what is that because I've never heard of it I've never done it before I don't sound yeah is it like BDSM no no no no I was like the office it's like relaxation so I just like I whisper the whole time in the video and then it's like sound then do some right now do some right now let's see I'm gonna experience the story now I've never experienced this should be on myself I've heard about it I've heard about it and I was like this is now this is it okay for that yes wow yeah so when actually when I usually do I have a big mic and like I cover the mic with something and then all like massage the mic kind of hard for me to get into that kind of character which is holding the phone but yeah it's basically to get people relaxed sometimes all to like guided breathing and then like all in corporate yoga and yoga this sounds like one of the maternity classes I took all my wife it's like I got to get her relax ready for pregnant for birth I actually I watch the ASMR videos sometimes see when I can't go and sleep they might help you go to sleep they pay for that yeah wow yeah well but some people like everyone's different you know like with every kind of contact concept everyone has their different things some people asking to do tap them sounds like that the trigger for them some people asking you to do mouth sounds and like kiss the mic hello scratching hello biting hello biting wow you guys never watch face someone no I've heard about it I kind of like like like peak that at one time like I like I was maybe on like Facebook or Instagram and I seen something like that and it said ASMR and I seen like I think what you were saying she she had her microphone and she was like rubbing the microphone and I'm like what is this I just kept it moving I'm like what is that's weird I don't know well what I was watching maybe maybe on Twitter and I was looking at ASMR and I'm like what the hell is this I think it was I think it was like Angela Whiter some shit it was a lady with big tits I saw her remember and she was talking the mic and I'm putting my volume up because I'm like what's wrong with the you know I thought my phone was fun so hey what the fuck yeah I was like man this is I don't know I can't see I mean more power to the guys who love that shit but I can't do that that's what it was it was um it was on Facebook but I think it was like a twitch stream on Facebook and she was rubbing the mic and then she's like I guess somebody gave her like a dono and she like whispered she was like thanks Michael I'm like what the why is she is her baby sleeping why is she why is she whispered I didn't know any better I'm like what is she doing this is weird and I just kept scrolling like I didn't know about ASMR this is like when I maybe when it first started but this was the very beginning of like that whole trend right yeah my my husband doesn't really get it either like when I when I was doing my it was at the 24-hour stream and when it was nighttime I started doing ASMR and he was like literally just next to me just like silently laughing like that's the fuck up imagine imagine you imagine somebody's screaming ASMR and you just hearing the background or you trying to stream your ASMR and you guys are trying to laugh next to you and you're like now smiling laughing like shit shut up stop now I've read up things where you are contracted herpes I believe now I've talked to a construing rose actually revealed to me that most of the stars have herpes yeah yeah that's true wow yeah ruins a lot of dreams from him that means yeah it's right yeah I'm sorry but yeah that's the truth most of us have a wow and I'm not gonna go down the list no just we know something I mean if I watch you know what if you watched it you know the names if you watch them I mean because they've been on the industry for years you can automatically pick yeah yeah I mean I've came to terms with it it's like it's not even a big deal to me anymore but when I did catch it I was a little bit yeah because I got an outbreak right after the Bonnie rotten that bitch by a game too right so I was really upset because my butthole was just completely broken like a bleeding and having an outbreak at the same time oh that's a double whammy that's fucked up you didn't punch in those things yeah you still got time Those right there somebody's gotta go like I Thought somebody's gotta go like I don't even think she's not I could anymore. I don't think so Yeah, I think she's washed up. You know it's crazy. I've never I know who exactly who it is I don't think I've ever washed a video. I Did and it's pretty disgusting Is that why you said is that what you said that does she smell because you you watching you like you're just gross Yeah, it looked like she just I think I think that's what it's to say right like Something's not good here I don't know like south Like when when when when you girls make up your names Do you put thought into it somebody else put you know make up the your your handles like her? Her name is Jesse. I know that you we don't talking about and Bonnie rotten's grown names not Bonnie rotten Well, how she know just gonna ask about Rogers. What'd you get the Rogers from? Okay, so I actually I had a few different The first one was actually Jesse cakes belong Because I ended up how I picked out Rogers was the domain was available So that's just how I picked it out and cakes was just a high school Could you have the cake? Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow So yeah, I mean I know I just I just want to I want to stay clean and that I called it You're Brazilian so you speak Forage Portuguese Portuguese Portuguese. Yeah, I thought I was Portuguese though Portugal. Yeah, Portugal has yes. Yes, I got it. Yeah, so you don't speak He's Brazilian Brazilian. No, she is Brazilian. She speaks Portuguese. I don't know how it goes Wow, that's impressive. You have anything you can say Wow, I've never seen you say that in the scene Well, it's been spent like Portuguese. I've never seen it in a scene. No, I have it I watch with the volume down because I don't know what I think I'm I was about to tell I don't think I've ever heard of you like speak Portuguese. They must a lot that yeah, they missed a lot That was a big I think my my kids on their happens to do a soccer game But I don't remember speaking Portuguese Yeah, they missed the they missed a ball on that one. Yeah, they definitely they kept um They kept typecasting you like as a like a white girl that the blonde hair That's true, but it's crazy because if you act like a lot of Brazilians Look like white girls with blonde hair. They a lot of them have dyed hair hair blonde It's like a big thing for Brazilians Yeah My hair was actually naturally blonde. Oh wow. Yeah It like progressively gotten absolutely darker But yeah, it's always been naturally curly for sure And we would just straighten it out for things usually Yeah Um, I don't think I have anything else No, no really. So what do you got going on for yourself? Yeah What do you got going on for yourself? Like anything you want to plug Anything I want to what you want to plug like anything you want to uh you want to advertise yeah Give you the New York Langle bro after that was worldwide um When we talked about all my fans already yeah, which is 60 99 Right, what are you in a package deal right? Oh for the ASMR that we were talking about that's on patreon now Um, I did do that on my twitch and I did a bunch of loving stuff on my twitch, but I'm still waiting to get my twitch channel back So what happened I don't know I have no you just got randomly banned So I did a 24 hours stream Uh those are hard Yes, oh my god as far as I know you know I had a good team of moderators that were there That like for most of it and we're all kind of confused especially because when I I got the ban email the reason said other Like you know how there's reasons yeah harassment Mine was just other I was like what did you find it So I sent them an email asking for clarification You didn't get it as far and then I sent them another emails Because I have I have some friends that work for twitch and told me to do that and The risk I just got an automated response and we are experiencing My number I think I'm right now so Responders might be delayed Wow, so you just got banned for no reason It's probably the same chick that broke your bahu. She's kind of been trying to ban you on twitch now Uh But I there's a lot of like twitch drama right now So you know, maybe they are busy like feeling Oh, aren't they getting hit with a loss? Yeah, the loss do yeah There's like some doctor doctor. Yeah, doctor. Disrespect it. Yeah, there's a bunch of shit. I don't know like that He just got ran him same thing she did he just got ran randomly been nobody knows why No one knows why he was just in the middle of this dream one day and just oops. It was done Wow, yeah My my friend is speculating that like has something to do with like Contracts and wanting to give this contract the ninja of I don't I hope That's possible And then he also has the rape allegations Yes So there's a lot of drama on twitch rain That's what You know what go unpack to your ASMR has anybody that you know of Don't make it ASMR See you can you give it a first? I'm if you if you if you if you blow up big don't forget about me I just get it first If you blow up big don't forget about me because I'm I'll just think about it. I'm like I don't think I've seen Uh, well ASMR is brand new but I don't think I've seen or heard of anybody doing it Nick Something I'll try there you go. Yeah, the all I want is just I just want like a friends and family discount to your only fans. That's all Other I think It is That's why when you said it's on patreon. I'm like oh shit if you could do it on patreon you can definitely go nude on it Oh, okay. Yeah Yeah, I'll try that. It might be he sounds actually cheaper than my only fan So There you have it nice nice don't forget about me. I'm that's all I'm saying Don't forget when when you think back about about you getting these millions of views and you're like shit That guy I feel did you know he really did help me on that he really gave me a great idea. Don't forget about it This is a mix Shit um I'm gonna be as soon as I as soon as I see you should go bit of gold big I'm gonna slide ran into the dams with just like the wide I emoji like you remember me Um, I don't think there's anything else. Just gotta do appreciate you doing this Absolutely what what are the what are the um the The links to your your own accounts. What is your your patreon account? What is your only fans account? I want you to just link that in right now. Oh, okay, so only fans is And the Jesse and it's J E SS i e yeah, and then the patreon is just patreon.com slash jesse your auger's ASMR Let me go look at my Which will soon to be ASMR nude There you go. There'll be ASMR nude um and then What I know mixing Oh, yeah, I think you guys know my twitch already. It's just twitch.tv/yourgreengur Instagram yep. Yeah, hopefully I'll get it back And my um nutrition website is yourcorgurge.org Um, um, I do have like an affiliate marketing with the cvg company Nice Uh, which company? You get a lot of money here. It's called your natural health care. Okay. And it's just slash Jessica F. Okay, okay. You get paid from Twitch. You get paid from the phone. Patreon. That's a lot of checks. Oh, clips for sale. Oh yes, your clips for sale. I remember you talking about that earlier. Yep. I guess the link isn't actually activated, but the studio is supposed to be called Jesse Rogers. Okay. I still need to figure all of that out. Oh, and then for um, sorry, I knew I was missing stuff. Oh my god. Well, I mean, everybody knows that one. That's why that one's okay. All right. No, if Jesse Rogers knew, it's the link is just like, no, no, any. Okay. Okay. Now, since your return to this, basically, you have you been contacted like, "Hey, would you come back?" By company? Yeah. I actually, I haven't. And I don't know if that's because my, my Instagram handle, which is like the main thing that I've been using, I, I don't put the Jesse Rogers name on there. So it might be kind of hard for them to find me. Yeah. Uh-huh. Which is like another reason why I, I don't understand yet. Colleen. Anyway, we already talked about that. Yeah. I do have some girl girl shoots that I have planned with girls that are friends of mine. I only have fans on your Patreon. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Okay. Would you, would you um, consider dabbling back into the industry if somebody contacted you? Or you're like, "Am I gonna fuck that?" Uh, no, I would. There's definitely some companies that I can think of that I definitely would. So, girl and girl are just boy and girl and what, what would it be? We would, we would have to talk about that with my husband. Now, I was gonna say, you would need to get to that. Asking your husband and doing the only fans is one thing. Asking your husband and jump back into the industry is a whole nother bold thing. Right. Yeah. I mean, he's cool. I mean, for right now, he's cool with being my videographer and letting me do solo with him girl girl. Talking about boy girl with other guys. Yeah, that's a good one. And if you unless, unless hey, he wants to, unless he wants to be a porn star himself, you know, it's right. Then you guys can just shoot him from your house. There you go. Exactly. I'm hoping he comes out of his shell soon. Okay. You know, I, I'm working both your face. Oh, yeah, you're getting double paychecks. Yeah. He's getting one, you're getting one. Yeah. And you're doing the same thing you're doing anyways. Obviously, how did the baby get made, you know? I was just being recorded. That's all. Exactly. Do you mind? Yeah, he's just gonna get Amos shy lately. That's why like when you go on my social media, he's rarely on there. Yeah. He doesn't want to. Oh, and then I have to talk now to like, forget about that. It's that's Jesse Rogers green. Well, got you. Was the green like your new last name or is like, because of your eye color or anything like that? You just, you're just going green because you're playing because I had the your green guru handle. Yeah. And then I think the actual Jesse Rogers handle was taken by some teenager. So I have to think of something else. I was like, you should message her like, listen, you little shit. I'm the real fucking Jesse Rogers. But you can get my handle back and fuck you up. Yeah. Well, hopefully you do do return and I'd love to see you there. Absolutely. Would you continue your stance with using protection? Because I remember at one point you were very not like anti-porn, but making sure that condom use was mandated. Right. I think that would be something to think about for sure. I mean, I guess now that I already have what everyone in the industry has, it wouldn't matter. Yeah, I think like the first person that comes to mind, the first guy that comes to mind, but I would want to do a single is my favorite on it. And I would definitely feel comfortable not using protection like one. Yeah. Even though his scenes are like, you know, they look filthy and nasty on video. He's actually a dreamer though. Oh, wow. Yeah. And the more you know. Yeah. Before he shoots with the girls, he makes sure they're super clean. And he has. He declines all over his house. Yeah. Wow. So. Well, if you do return, don't forget about us. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I completely forgot to bring this up. There's a petition going around. I don't know if it closed or not. Or porn hub to only allow postings from verified profile. Wow. Because, you know, because of the fact that they were allowing postings from anyone. I guess there was still like, there's a kid. I see a message. Yeah. Yes. There's a lot of it. That's fucked up. Like, and, and the year of massive website, there's like, you have to have scrubbers. Like, there's no way to scrub this stuff out. Like, how are they? And some of these videos, I read that they're, they're left up for weeks at times. Right. And it's like, dude, you don't have, there's a video that's been up off of freaking, you know, 15 year old having sex. And, and it's been up for three weeks now. You guys, you guys aren't taking it down. Like, it's, I know it's been reported numerous amount of times. I mean, there's an article out on it. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm hoping that like with this petition and everything, they can change some of the protocols. Yeah. Being verified would definitely be a smart way to do it. Because you already, you have your age. Everything is on, on paper. It's on the site. You have it. You think you're verified. So, yeah. You know, being able to post it. Yeah, you might lose some content because not everybody's going to get verified, but to be honest, you just make it a little easier to get verified. And then that leads out all the, the young ones. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Jesse, if it was a man, who's the two girls? Who said there's two girls that you're going to be doing content with? Yes. Well, it might be a few more. Who? Melissa, I posted a picture of her on my Instagram story today. She lives in Florida. And then I don't know if you know Selina Rose. Oh, she changed her name to Selina Santana. She used to be a digital playground contract girl. That sounds amazing. Yeah, they're both like Latina Melissa's blonde, but she's still like her. Damn. Selina Santana Melissa. She's got a very nice body. Yeah. Oh, I think that that content between your hair is going to be fucking. You guys going to burn the internet with that. Oh, Selina Santana, look. Oh, I've seen her. Oh, yeah, you have. What's her? Yeah, I've seen her. I definitely. I've seen, I've seen a side of her too. What's her Instagram handle? Oh, no, I just googled it. Selina Santana. Oh, wow, she's hot. I think either Selina Rose or Selina from downtown. I think she changed. Yeah, Selina Santana's high of like contract issues or whatever. But yeah, that's still there. Wow. Tell us to yes. They want to come on the podcast because I'm definitely looking to do more interviews and learn more about people and I guess. I've you know what? I wanted to do more interviews besides porn stars, but I guess once you start doing one or two, you start to attract most of them because they're like, all right, if you did that lady. Yeah, and that lady. It's, you know what I mean? That's what happens. Like my emails, I get some of them and some of them be like, oh, what's the compensation? Like compensation? Like, what the fuck? No, but we to be honest, put it what it was, we had the first one. It was the me. It was actually just Ava, right? No, it was it was Ava at the same time. Yes, so it was Ava and then it just it just happened that me. It was there. So we wound up doing the interview with me and Ava. And then, yeah. It wasn't even blondie after, right? Somebody else? - It was somebody else's supposed to, then it was blondie. Blondie actually opened a gate for a bunch of people 'cause they see it as like a track record. So my email was getting flooded with shit. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, you know what I mean? But certain people, I don't wanna do everybody 'cause then after a while, you're asking the same questions. - But to be honest, you ask the same questions. You're getting different answers is different people. - You get different answers, but that's why I was like, you know what, Jesse is the best choice right now because you're not in the industry and you'll also share that dark side of the industry. - 'Cause there's a couple that we were, couple that have contact that are still in it. So it's like you kinda have like a biased opinion because you can't really bash or can't say anything that, you know, from the outside. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. - And that's great. - That's great. - Yeah, sounds. - I don't think I have anything else though. Thank you so much, Jesse. - It's been a pleasure. We will try to have you back on or whenever you feel like you wanna come back on, just contact us and we'll find it. You know, you'll definitely be on. - Jesse, thank you so much. - Absolutely, thank you. Give it up to Jesse. It's been amazing. - You have yourself, you have yourself a good night and hopefully we talk to you soon. - I'm touched for sure. - Absolutely. - All right. - Thank you. - Let's see that initiative replay. - No, like this right now is clean. - Yeah. - It's a very clean came. - It's a lot of time to be a lot. - Can you give me an example? - Oh God. (laughing) - Good. - All right. - I'll give you an example. - Not even a serious example. - For me? - Yes, for you. - All right, yeah. - For, I say we have what, 32 episodes, 33 episodes, whatever it is. For probably 20 of those 30 episodes, Kane would open up with rest in peace, Bill Cosby. Now, the man is not dead, but he just randomly says it because he just doesn't care if he's alive or not. He just, he wants him, he's a first to get it out that he's gonna die like now. - He's a sexist friend. See, because I don't like she like that. There's no way you're gonna hurt women like that. That's somebody's mom and daughter, sister, aunt. - Absolutely. - And secondly, I always said, I wanna be the first to hit the announce it. So if he died three days from now, I already told you. (laughing)