Episode 30: Breaking Down the Rapture, part 2: The Second Coming

Welcome back to the What's the Breakdown Podcast. Join us for today's episode, Breaking Down the Rapture Part 2. Hey guys, it's Ben. We are here today continuing our series on breaking down some of the end times topics and to smaller more tolerable portions to where we can understand them better. And we are continuing this idea of breaking down the Rapture. And so last time we talked about the epicenter, the very passages from which the Rapture doctrine originated from. And today we are talking about the second coming. This is part two. We're talking about the second coming. And this is important because when we talk about end times doctrine, we talk about the Rapture and things like this. It's important to understand that those who hold generally to a Rapture, they hold to the idea that it is a separate and distinct event from the second coming. Now some people hold that the Rapture is going to happen before a seven year tribulation period. Some things going to happen in the middle of it. Some things going to happen after. But regardless, those who hold to this view, generally believe that Jesus is not coming back for his actual second coming until some time after the Rapture, that it's this completely separate event. And so that's what we want to talk about today. And so what is it a separate event? Is the Rapture or the calling up or catching up of believers to the Lord and there? Is that a separate event than the second coming? And so we're going to look at our past today. So we already read 1 Thessalonians 4, 13 through 18 last time. But I'm going to go ahead and read it again just to preface as we get into the next chapter, because I told you we're going to look at chapter 5 today, verses 1 through 11. And so follow along with me if you would. And again, it is important as we read this to remember that Paul did not write this letter with chapters and verses when he wrote it. Okay. His letter was literally that a letter. It was a continuous thought as he was laying this out to the churches. And that's why we need to recognize as we read this that idea of a continuous thought. So follow along with me chapter 4, start with verse 13. He says, "But we don't want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep. That you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not proceed those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, with the sound of the trumpet of God, and the dead and Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord, therefore encourage one another with these words." So that was last week's passage, our last time's passage, last podcast passage. So let's continue. So verse chapter 5, verse 1, it says, "Now concerning the times and seasons, brothers, you have no need to have anything written to you. For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying there is peace and security, then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief. For you are all children of light, children of the day. We are not of the night or of the darkness. So then let us not sleep as others do, but let us keep awake and be sober. For those who sleep sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. Since we belong to the day, let us be sober. Having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helmet the hope of salvation. For God is not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep, we might live with Him. Therefore, encourage one another and build one another up just as you are doing." So it is, like I said, valuable that we look at this in a continuous thought as Paul did, and see that chapter 4, when it ends, the thought doesn't end. It continues into chapter 5. But this is important distinction because those who hold to a rapture view will claim that chapter 5, when Paul begins and says, "For you, your servants, and the seasons, and the brothers, you have no need for me to write anything to you, for you, your sales are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief of the night." They will claim that this is actually referencing a different event than chapter 4, verses 13 through 18, and this event is called the day of the Lord. So they will claim that the rapture is in chapter 4, verses 13 through 18, but that the day of the Lord is what is being referenced in chapter 5, 1 through 11. So they are talking as if they are two separate ideas, but there is actually no indication of that in Paul's letter. There is no indication that Paul is referencing something else. And I think that is so important that we see this. And so I want us to look at this passage real quick and ask ourselves the question, Is chapter 5, verses 1 through 11, talking about a different event than chapter 4, verses 13 through 18, or is it just a continual thought about the same coming of the Lord described in chapter 4? So let's look at it. Look at verses 1 and 2. Paul says, "Now concerning the times and seasons, brothers, you have no need to have anything written to you, for you, your sales are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night." So here's Paul saying, "I don't need to talk to you about when this is going to happen." Because remember, his whole purpose of this portion of his letter is to calm the fears of the Thessalonican people who are afraid that their dead loved ones will not experience the coming of the Lord. And so he's already told them, "Hey, they will rise first, and we who are live will join them." And then he goes on to say, "But when this is going to happen, you know I don't need to tell you when, because we know that the day of the Lord will come like a thief of the night." The only coming he's been referencing in this entire passage, this entire book up to this point, is the very coming described in chapter 4, when Jesus comes with a loud shout and the voice of the Archangel and all this stuff. And so when he says that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night, this is a direct reference to Matthew 24, which is called the Olivet Discourse. When Jesus is talking about the end of all things, and Jesus himself says, "No one knows the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven nor the sun, only the Father." So here's Jesus saying, "I don't even know when I'm coming back." And so Paul is referencing that by saying, "Hey, I don't need to tell you when he's coming back. We don't need to talk about that because you are already aware that no one knows." So we don't have to talk about the wind, because that's naturally our discussion. When we say, "What's going to happen?" And we hear, "What? Our next question is, "Well, when? When's that going to happen?" And he's telling me that they don't have to know that. And it is important though, like it's interesting in this first verse, if Paul were talking about, if he was shifting gears here in chapter 5, if he was going to start talking about a completely different event, and keep in mind, it would have to be an event that this church wouldn't even be participating in, because they believe the church would be gone. If he was changing gears and shifting his focus, it's strange that he doesn't mention the topic or the subject right out of the gate. Why doesn't he identify the topic first in chapter 1? Why does he say, "Now, about the day of the Lord, let's talk about it." The reason he doesn't do that is because he's already discussing the very topic in chapter 4 going right into this. He's already been discussing this coming. He's already talking about it, and so that reference of days and seasons is already in reference to what he's already been talking about. I'll give you an example of Paul's own writing to the same church in 2 Thessalonians. This is a letter he writes to them later. Now listen to what he says here. This is 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 verses 1 and 2, and listen to the verbage here. He says, "Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and are being gathered together to Him." This has to be, guys. This has to be the exact same thing he's referenced in 1 Thessalonians. Think about what he said. "Now concerning the coming of Jesus and Him gathering us to Himself." That's the exact thing that chapter 4 in 1 Thessalonians talked about. And he says this, "I ask you brothers," this verse 2, "not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed either by spirit or spoken word or letter seeming to be from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come." So he's telling him, he's like, "Listen, concerning this coming of Jesus and are being gathered together, don't let anybody lie to you that this day or the day of the Lord has come." Because he's referencing it as the same event. It is the same event. So let's go on to verses 3 and 3 through 5 in chapter 5. So in verse 3 he says, "While people are saying there is peace and security, then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman and they will not escape. For you are all children of light, children of the day, we are not of the light or of the darkness." So here he is saying that when the day of the Lord comes, it's going to catch everybody by surprise. They're going to be saying peace and safety. In other words, they think everything is great. And then he's going to come. Well, this is a direct reference to Matthew 24 and to Luke 17 when Jesus says that it will be just like in the days of Noah when they were marrying and being given in marriage, eating and drinking. And then all of a sudden the flood came. It caught them by surprise, and so it's referencing the same event that Matthew 24 is referencing. And then he goes on to say in our passage that these people are in darkness. That's why it's going to surprise him. That's why it's going to catch them by surprise, and that's why they're not going to be ready for it. But then he gives this contrast. And he says, but you, us, the church, he says, this day won't surprise you because you are children of light. So here's my question. How can this church be ready for or not surprised by a day that they're supposedly not even going to see according to the rapturous? Because here's Paul telling them you won't be surprised by this day. In other words, you will be ready for this day. And if you continue reading on with me, you'll see that's exactly what he's telling them because he goes on to tell them not to be drunk, but be sober. And that he just means his awareness. Be sober and be awake, paying attention. Right? So that you are living in the light. But then we go to verses 9 through 11. So I'm skipping a few verses, but we go to verses 9 through 11 and listen. That verse 9 says, for God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. So that verse right there, many rapturous are going to say, see? That tells you right there that we are not going to deal with the tribulation and all these troubles and all this gas tribulation and wrath are not the same thing. And we're going to see that in a few podcasts from now. But what this dichotomy he gives here, for God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, this is a continuation of him explaining how that day will be different for unbelievers and believers. So think about this. What does he say at this point? He says, the nonbelievers are in the dark, their drunk. They will be surprised when this day comes because it will come like a thief. And then they will suffer the wrath of God. But what about the believers? Instead of being in the dark, believers are in the light. Instead of being drunk, the believers are awake and sober. Instead of being surprised, the believers are ready. And instead of receiving God's wrath, we will receive God's salvation. That is a consistent hermeneutic or a consistent reading of this passage. To insert into this verse right here that, oh, us not being destined for wrath means that we're taken out before some tribulation period is totally arbitrary. It's totally unnecessary and uncalled for in this passage because it does not talk about that. So then verse 10 says, let me read nine again, for God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep, we might live with him. Therefore, encourage one another and build one another up just as you are doing. These last two verses right here tie the whole thing together because they take a straight back to 1 Thessalonians chapter 4, right? Because it's specifically, verse 10 specifically refers back to chapter 4 when it says that whether we are awake or asleep, we might live with him. What are the people who are asleep? It was the very people they were concerned about that their dead loved ones would not be able to experience the coming of the Lord. He says it doesn't matter if they're asleep or if we're awake, we will live with him again. So it's a direct reference back to chapter 4. And so it is with verse 11, verse 11 ends just like chapter 4 ending because remember at the end of chapter 4, he says, we'll be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage each other with these words and the end of chapter 5, at this point in chapter 5, I should say, he says that we will live with him. Therefore encourage one another and build one another up just as you are doing. Why do they, why does it tie it all back together? Why does it end the same way? Because it's talking about the same event. The catching up of the saints in chapter 4 verses 13 through 18 is elaborated on in chapter 5, 1 through 11 and they're both talking about the same event that takes place at the second coming. So before it, during it, it's part of the second coming. So are you convinced yet? Well, if you're not, let's look at a specific descriptions of the second coming and then we'll compare them to our passage today and we'll do this pretty quickly. Okay, so I'm going to try to run through this as quick as I can. So here are eight descriptions of what to expect at the second coming of Christ. Okay, first thing we know above all this is we don't know when it's going to happen. He tells us that we don't know when that's going to happen. So anybody who tells you we know exactly when the Lord's coming back, they're lying. They don't know the Bible tells us that. Okay, so first description of the second coming is that Jesus will come on the clouds. Okay, so I'm going to give you a couple of verses here. So stay with me. So Matthew chapter 24 verse 30, it says this. Jesus Himself says, oh, I'm in chapter 22, 23. Okay. Chapter 24 verse 30. Okay. Then we'll appear in heaven the sign of the Son of man and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Well, if we were to go to Acts chapter 1, all right. So you're going to have to bear with me for a minute because I want to read these to you and I'm having to flip to get them in Acts chapter 1 verses 9 through 11. This is that Jesus is ascension after his resurrection. It says this. And when he had said these things as they were looking on, he was lifted up talking about Jesus and a cloud took him out of their sight. And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes and said, men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus who was taken up from you into heaven will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven. Well, he went into heaven on the clouds. He's coming back on the clouds. Revelation 1 7 tells us straight up. He says, behold, talking about Jesus. He is coming with the clouds and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him and all the tribes of the earth will well on account of him. Even so, amen. And chapter 14 of Revelation. This is the harvest described in Revelation is chapter 14 verse 14. This is then I looked and behold a white cloud and seated on the cloud one like a son of man with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. And so that again is a reference to Christ. We see very clearly Jesus comes on the clouds at the second coming. The second thing is this, who's he coming with? He's coming with his angels. So in Matthew 24, going back to that, the following verse after what we just read, Matthew 24 verse 31. He says, one more page here. He says that he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call and they will gather his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other. So they're coming with him as he's coming down the clouds. In Matthew 25 verse 31, Jesus again is explaining this and he says, when the son of man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. So the angels are coming with Jesus. And so even if we go over to second Thessalonians chapter 1, we see this again. Let's see. Second Thessalonians chapter 1 verses 6 and 7. It says, since indeed God considers it just to repay with affliction, those who afflict you and to grant relief to you who afflicted as well as us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels. Right? So when he comes, he's coming with his angels. And here's something I'll clarify for you because some of you going to say, well, isn't he coming back? Aren't we getting raptured out and he's coming back with the church? Well in the book of 1 Thessalonians, when he's riding to this church who he's talking about that Jesus is going to gather them up when he comes. Listen to verse chapter 3 verse 13. So keep that in mind. His audience is the very same people he's told. Jesus will catch up in the air with him when he comes. Verse 13 says this, "So that he may establish your heart's blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus with all his saints." So how is Jesus coming to get these, get the church with saints already with him? It's because the saints mean the holy ones, meaning the angels. And that's the same description we get for Jesus is coming in Revelation that he's coming with his holy ones. That's the holy army he's talking about the angels. He's coming back with the angels. So that's the second point. So we know Jesus is going to come on the clouds. He's going to come with the angels. Now what's he going to do? He is going to speak. When he comes back, he is going to speak. And John chapter 5, Jesus himself, tells us this specifically in verse 28. So John 5. And I hope as you're listening to this, you take a chance to go back and look at these passages because at the end of the day, the Bible is what needs to speak, not me. But in John chapter 5 verse 28, Jesus says this, "Do not marvel at this. For an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice." Verse 29, "That will hear his voice and come out. Those who have done good to the resurrection of life and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment." So when he comes back, he will command the dead to raise." Okay? Now Revelation chapter 2, Jesus is talking to one of the churches specifically to the church in Pergamum. says this, therefore repent if not I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth, the breath of his mouth that says in other places. So he's coming back to speak and we see this again in Revelation 19 where he comes on the white horse and here's what it says. Specifically in verses, let's do verse, what's going from 15 through 21 it says, "From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations and he will rule them with a rod of iron." So I'm going to fast forward, that was verse 15 and we're going to go to verse 21 after he's destroyed the beast and the false prophet and it says, "And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse and all the birds were gores with their flesh." So Jesus will speak when he comes back. He will raise the dead, he will destroy the wicked, like both of those things are coming from his mouth as he speaks truth. So here's the fourth thing, there will be a trumpet blast when he returns. Going back to our Matthew passage, verse chapter 24 verses 30 and 31, again he says, "Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of man and all the tribes of the earth will mourn and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call and they will gather his elect from the four winds from one end of heaven to the other." So then we go to 1 Corinthians 15. 1 Corinthians 15 is a chapter that is all about the resurrection. So any questions you might have about the resurrection, that's your chapter that you really want to go to because Paul spends at 50 some odd, almost 60 verses talking just about the resurrection. But specifically in chapter 15 verses 51 and 52 he says this, "Behold, I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye at the last trumpet for the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised in perishable and we shall be changed." So when the last trumpet sounds, the dead will raise and when the last trumpet sounds the devil raise, well when is the last trumpet? Revelation 11 verse 15 says this, "Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet and there were loud voices in heaven saying, 'The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and his Christ and he shall reign forever and ever.'" And this is a problem for the rapturous because they would say that, and this will get into this another day, but they're going to say the tribulation that happens after the so-called rapture is chapter 6 through 19 of Revelation. But here we see that the last trumpet described in 1 Corinthians takes place at chapter 11 of Revelation, yet they would claim that chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians is actually talking about the rapture. And again, I'll get into that more later, but that is a logistical problem for the raptures. But either way, we see that clear that the trumpet blasts. And so now, here's the fifth point, the dead will raise. We just read that in 1 Corinthians, the trumpet will blast and the dead will be raised in perishable, right? So when the last trumpet blasts, all those who are dead will be raised. And John 5, 28, we read where Jesus says, "I will allow command all those who are in their tombs will raise the righteous, everlasting life and the wicked to condemnation." But in Revelation 20, 13, we see this large-scale resurrection taking place in verse 13. Says, "And the sea gave up the dead who were in it. Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them and they were judged each one of them according to what they had been done." So all of the dead have to raise when Jesus comes back. We also see, this is the sixth point, that it is called the day of the Lord. In 2 Peter, chapter 3, which 2 Peter, chapter 3 is a great description of the end, but 2 Peter, chapter 3, verse 10 says this, "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with the roar and the heavenly bodies we burned up and dissolved and the earth and the works that are done all it on it will be exposed." It's called the day of the Lord. 2 Thessalonians, chapter 2, verse 2, we read earlier. He says, "Don't be alarmed either by spirit or spoken word or letter seeming to be from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come." And then one more, in Revelation 16, verse 14, this is the sixth ball, so this is at the end of the punishments, the wrath of God poured out. At the sixth ball, in verse 14, it says, "For they are all demonic spirits, these are spirits that are spit out by the dragon and the beast and the false prophet, to deceive kings of the world." It says, "For they are demonic spirits, performing signs who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God, the Almighty." All right, so on the great day of God, the great day of the Lord. Now we've already read multiple times, this seventh point, is that he will come like a thief. In Matthew 24, verse 43, we see Jesus explaining how this day is going to go down. In verse 43, he says, "But know this, that if the master of the house had known, and what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect, so he references himself to a thief." He read the second Peter, chapter 3, passage where he says, "The day of the Lord is coming like a thief." Well, then in Revelation 16, back to the passage we had, where they're gathered for battle on the day of the Lord Almighty, God Almighty. Jesus jumps in here in verse 15 of chapter 16 of Revelation and he says, "Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake, keeping his garments on that he may not go about naked, be seen exposed, and they assembled them at the place that in Hebrew is called Arm again." So Jesus is coming like a thief to Armageddon, to battle against the kings of the earth in Satan. And last but not least, the eighth point is that Christ saves the righteous and destroys the wicked. Hebrews 9.28 tells us that he's coming back not to be a sacrifice for sins, but to bring salvation to those who patiently wait for him. Matthew 25, verses 31 and 32, it says that when the Son of Man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glory's throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And we know that the sheep are those who will be with him forever in eternity and the goats are the ones who are cast out in the condemnation. Second Peter going back to that second Peter passage, chapter 3. So he's talking about this day of the Lord coming and destroying the heavens and the earth and all this and burning everything up. But listen to what he says about the wicked and the righteous. This is second Peter chapter 3, verses 8 through 13. He says, "But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some count slowness, but His patient towards you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and the heavens will pass away with the roar and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved in the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed. Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn. So here we are. He's telling us to be patient as we look forward to and hasten. In other words, we try to hurry up the day of the Lord. So we're supposed to be there living godly lives when He comes back on the day of the Lord. And last but not least, we see in Revelation 20 verses 9 to 10, and I think this is a very powerful passage about destroying the wicked and saving the righteous. This is when Satan gathers the armies of the world together to come against God's people to destroy them. This is the last battle to describe the other places as well, but it's described here. This is verses 9 and 10 of chapter 20. And it says, "And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints in the beloved city. But the fire came down from heaven and consumed them. And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. So the wicked gather around the people of God with Satan. God reigns down fire from heaven, destroys all the wicked and puts Satan in the lake of fire as well. And so here we have the believers are the only ones who are left. And so those eight points, we go over again. Jesus is going to come on the clouds. He's going to speak. The trumpet will blast. The dead will raise. It's called the day of the Lord. He's going to come like a thief and he will save the righteous and destroy the wicked. Now, if we were to go back to our passage, 1 Thessalonians 4, 13 through 18, and chapter 5, 1 through 11, check this out. Every single thing happens, every single thing. Jesus coming on the clouds, verse 16, "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven." So he's, and it tells us later in verse 17 that we'll be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet him in the air. So he's in the clouds when he comes. He says that we know aspect of the second coming. That's the second point. So in the passage, what does it say? "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with the cry of command with the voice of an archangel." So the arch angels are with him or the angels are with him. The third point, Jesus will speak when he comes back. Well, what are we reading first? This is the 4th, 16. "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command." What's that? command for the dead to die and for the dead to die and for the dead to raise. He will command his voice will speak. The fourth point, the trumpet will blast. Again, going back to first, that's long as 4/16. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with the cry of a command, with the voice of an archangel and with the sound of the trumpet of God. That's there too. The fifth point, the dead will raise. Well, what happens at the end of verse 16? It says, "And the dead in Christ will rise." So we see the righteous will rise right there, along with the other, but he's focused on those dead believers that they're worried about. The sixth point, it's called the day of the Lord. Well, as we continue this thought from chapter 4 into chapter 5, because there's no distinction or break of it, he says, "Now concerning times and seasons, brothers, you have no need to have anything written to you. For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord." So we call it the day of the Lord. So then the seventh point, he says, "is going to come like a thief." So continuing that verse, verse 2 of chapter 5, "Year sales are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night." And then the eighth point, Christ will save the righteous and destroy the wicked. Well, what does he say is going to happen to those who are in darkness versus those who are in the light? Chapter 5 verse 9, "For God has not destined us for wrath." That's the believer who is in the light, who is awake, who is sober, who is ready and waiting. So we will receive salvation. But the wicked, who are in the darkness, who are drunk, who are not ready, they will be destined for wrath. And so the passage, the very passage that is tried to use as the origin and the proof that the rapture is some different event than the second coming, it is the only passage in Scripture. Let me say that again, it is the only passage in Scripture that includes every single aspect of the second coming, described in other places. It includes every single one. Are these two separate events? That's highly unlikely, highly unlikely, because it includes all aspects of the second coming. And the reason why guys is pretty obvious, it's because there's only one coming of Christ. And that is known as the day of the Lord, or the coming of the Lord. The rapture is simply not a separate event from the second coming, but rather it is part of the second coming of Christ. Guys, I hope this has been helpful. I know it was a lot today. I mean, I encourage you to go back and look at those Scriptures, no through them. But I hope this has helped you to understand that the second coming and the catching up of the believers is all the same event. They are not two separate events that are happening at different times in history and are in the future really, but history for God. They're not two separate events, but rather they are part of the same event and Scripture bears witness to that. I hope this has been a blessing to you. Next time we will get on here, we'll start talking about the tribulation and what does that look like? When is that? Is that Scripture? Or where do they think it's that in Scripture? And we'll see if there's anything to back that up. Guys, I hope you're blessed. I look forward to talking to you next time. Thanks for joining us on the West of Breakdown Podcast with a forward seeing you next time.