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Episode 3 - Eman Noori, Student Journalist

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Episode 3 - Eman Noori, Student Journalist

The transcription features a roundtable discussion heavily critical of U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding Iran and the broader military establishment. Speakers argue that the Trump administration's approach to Iran is strategically bankrupt and based on delusional fantasies of "regime change," which they dismiss as impossible through military force. They contend that unprovoked attacks never lead to organic support for the aggressor, and they criticize the U.S. military's structure as an obsolete relic of the 20th century, unsuitable for modern globalized realities. The speakers also mock Trump's social media activity and his supporters, labeling them as irrelevant and lacking genuine understanding. They advocate for a smarter, more decentralized strategy using private contractors and propaganda, rather than conventional warfare. Throughout, the conversation is interspersed with repeated, seemingly unrelated promotions for the *Irish Independent* newspaper, which emphasize community stories and local news. The overall tone is cynical and dismissive of both current political leadership and the broader military-industrial complex, suggesting a need for a fundamental rethinking of U.S. strategic priorities.

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At the Irish Independent, we don't just report the news. We tell the stories written all over Ireland. After all, each struggle, triumph. "Hoi, I'm low." It leaves a mark that lasts. We live and breathe the stories written all over Ireland. At the Irish Independent, we don't just cover national news. We stand on the pitches and main streets to share the stories that shape our communities. Now, at Independent Dada'i, for its slash local, you can choose your county. And get the stories written all over Ireland. Irish Independent. Irish Independent, written all over Ireland. After a long hiatus, the Inquisition is back. Right now, we have Thomas, Peter Quenones, and of course, the man who's perpetually on color people time, Carl Dahl. That's right. CP time. That's right. I'm surprised you were able to make it. I mean, it's only like five minutes late. I mean, this is a. This is some type of land speed record for you, Carl. Hey, I'm usually on time, but many of these early afternoon things, I have other pressing items, but thank you for your patience, gentlemen. But good job. Yeah, allegedly. All right. I think that's as full of a house as we're going to get. Thomas, you want to kick us off? Yeah, I've been exhausted with Iran. I've been exhausted with just the Iran talk, watching it spiral. I think the domestic implications of it are far more interesting. Well, yeah, the people were throwing shade on, on Friar Talk for apologizing for embarrassing Trump. I think that was every since your sentiment and, and it was well placed. I, this regime is in the, this administration is indefensible. I mean, even if, even if you're some sort of infantile moron or some sort of, or some sort of race, trade or Zionist within the parameters of, of those commitments, there's absolutely no strategic framework to where I ran. There's no plausible military mission. And there's not a force structure that can facilitate an outcome. There's, there's not, there's not any declared outcome. They're declared objective that could be realized as a military outcome. And I think that that's. I think that that's inarriable. I've tried to make the point of people to, especially when the rabbi Trump. I mean, first of all, too, it's. Trump's handlers should be. It should be restricting him from social media and keeping out of public view at all costs. Like, Colonel, how's did Wilson after Wilson had a massive stroke the last year and a half is administration and, and from legal purposes, he is mind was gone. So a house made sure that, you know, and I mean, for decades, people didn't know about this. You know, finally, this song, Wilson staffers came clean literally in the 1950s. You know, those were still alive, but. Just like letting Trump make a fool of himself on social media day after day after day. I mean, you're really your only job. If you're in one of the more. The superfluous cabinet positions is making sure that doesn't happen. But I, you know, aside from that. I'm sure people think I'm just being can tank or a certain antic, but. When people try and organize the discussion around well, it's terrible that Trump's talking about regime change regime change doesn't exist. It's some delusional fantasy of global is. And, and Zionist, the Creetans who. Who, it's certainly want to avail other societies to unprovoked violent military action. There's never been a single instance where. An unprovoked massive military assault on a foreign society as resulted in the body politics spontaneously deciding they love the people killing them. And they want to provide an actual organic majority in mandate that some client of the government that is killing them and attacking their country. Like that that's a sign like anybody anybody who thinks that that is possible or that is a thing or that that some sort of press offended activity. Or outcome in a stroke or record there either staggeringly fucking stupid or they're literally delusional. Let's remove the phrase regime change from the lexicon. I think I think it was coined by that. By that future, you print the William crystal anyway. It's like why this why somebody like him is being allowed to invent. And then, and then terms that are then. Bandit as if they have some sort of deep and substantive meaning is beyond me, but you know that the regime changes and something that exists. It's like saying Easter Bunny or. Or you know something on that order as it has a meaning. So I don't. Even people even people who exercise the occasion or a meaningful understanding the implications of. The deep implications of what's underway here. You're talking about an indefensible policy course that obviously is. You know, only going to result in. The material impoverishment to the country and the diminution of whatever remains of its vestual credibility. So yeah, I. Trump has managed to accomplish nothing. During his tenure other than to, you know, again, like further piss away any vestigial credibility that I'm area ahead. So I mean, that's a positive because this regime needs to die and the more that's expedited the better. But yeah, that's the main story. You know, it's not. Well, and then you have these low IQ mutants out there who are like no, no, Trump needs to act this way because he has to be tough with other countries because other times Putin is tough. She is tough. So he asked to act tough problem is he's not acting tough. He's acting like the old man that you know, used to get put into a public asylum before fucking Reagan closed him because he was probably going to end up in one. He's fucking, that's not acting tough. But I don't think he needs like because yeah, I mean the strategic landscapes not like a junior high school playground. But he was talking about putting act tough. He doesn't act tough. He has quiet in the in the. In the, in the. We're talking about credibility in the terms that it was discussed during the Cold War where that those concepts had meaning and had implications for you know, everything from force structure to the ability to deploy at scale without resorting the open hostilities and still yield desirable outcomes. That that came down to that that came down to a force structure that was able to produce outcomes commensurate with you know the desire strategic interest. It didn't there's really not there's not just like wide range of outcomes from deploying military force. Very, very narrow spectrum of activity that you know will be yielded from that you know this idea that there's some like open ended creative aspect to attacking other countries is literally senile or end delusional. But also again without a without a meaningful strategic framework you know it's the same is the same is the same anti logic is Ukraine but at least there I believe the at least on the Zionist side. The their view is that you know they wanted to punish Russia for the old they got you know the IDF got handed in in Syria and the Levon but also they want to permanent they want to kill slabs because they they they they are rigid as I hate for the people who live there. But they also they want to permanently tie down the Russians their own frontier. But this idea that in broad strokes that Ukraine's going to defeat the armed force the Russian Federation then invade Russia then prevent the armed force of Russian from recast it's shooting then occupy Moscow then overthrow the government you're literally delusional of you think that's going to happen that's ridiculous that's a joke. Just like these fools who, you know, one of the reasons why I got contempt. not just for the conservative enemy and these people who act as unpaid, in some cases compensated, propping end is for this criminal regime. But even some of these people supposedly on side, their grip is like dropping hysterical clickbait. Like, "This world war three Trump's going to invade Iran." It's like with what? So Trump, he's going to invade a country of 100 million people that is the 17th largest country on this planet. And the armed forces of Iran are going to be wiped out. Hezbollah is going to be wiped out. Iraq is also going to be invaded because sympathetic core religion is under armed. They're going to be then wiped out. Then Iran is going to be occupied. Then the government is going to be overthrown. So I think Trump is God or like he's elegant or great. Or acting like the Zog and Milfer apparatus is the Vermok 2.0. That's a fucking joke. Anybody who talks that way, again, is either totally delusional or totally senile. And the war three without any mass mobilization of men under arms with no strategic buildup of. Now, at Independent.ai, for its lash local, you can choose your county and get the stories written all over Ireland. Irish Independent. After all, it's struggle, triumph. Hoi, I'm low. It leaves a mark that lasts. Irish Independent. Irish Independent. Or magazine depth of existing systems, no manufacturing of new systems, no positioning of those systems, no staging of those. They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I know infrastructure, the sustain it. It's also too under globalism. It's like people, I don't understand. If some of these people are my age or older than me, it's like, did you take a nap? It's like, are you rip in, winkle? Did you take a nap on November 8, 1989 and then just wake up yesterday? It's like, you know, I understand that the 20th century ended. You know, this idea that, this idea that interstate warring, interstate conventional combined arms worrying at massive scale, the idea that this is some normal thing that never, ever, ever, ever happens. Like the 20th century was this bizarre and insane outlier because that became the norm. That literally never happens. You know, the war, but my myth, and it's like Bosnia, and under Plainism, like the idea that, like the idea that a country like Russia or that China is going to somehow secede from the globalist apparatus is going to build up some World War II style combined arms force then decide for no reason to attack the US carrier fleet in the Pacific and pretend to fight the battle in midway. I mean, that's like saying, that's literally an order of saying, okay, the British are going to, the British are going to attack Washington DC, but they're going to do it with sailboats. And they're going to arm their men with muskets and they're going to wear bright red coats when they do it. And they want to do that to burn down the White House, they humiliate the colonies. You see that happened in 1812. So it's going to happen again. That's literally in the order of saying that. But Thomas, the TV has prepared me for this moment for the past 50 years ever since 1982. We've been out of war with Iran for 40, what is the, what is the 47 years? 47 years. What's going on here? Come on, come on. And these are what you're doing is these are still people who in their minds are like, but we beat the Nazis. We beat the slow pets. I mean, you're telling me, you're telling me that we shouldn't have done that. They were bad. Yeah, but it's like I can argue in the state, okay, what's an American? You said that the Americans beat all these guys. What is an American? Well, according to what should I, why should I fight? It's people with the right paperwork according to regime chronicles and the few odds who serve them. But my point is, have those motherfuckers go to the enlistment center? But I mean, even if, even if somebody's got these, even if somebody's, I mean, even if you're some Zionist Jew or even if you're some, you know, like, wine or healot, it's like, again, within the boundary rationality of those commitments, this is delusion. You know, and it doesn't, as is this idea that, you know, within, you know, I mean, I think of this every day, man, it's like if there were, if there was a gene with smart and if it basically, it, it basically would have leaned into the way things were going anyway and are being fully charged now after 1989. And basically what it dismantled, they sort of public bureaucracy and the tax funded military and then essentially profited by these not only private entities that nonetheless are basically the government and are different guys. And they would replace the military essentially with a dozen black water type outfits, you know, and essentially duplicated that model and it does in different theaters. You know, while retaining ultimate command and control authority, like that's how you do it. You know, and that's how, and that's how you, and, you know, a sophisticated propaganda apparatus that makes hostile propaganda within the targeted theater appear to be truly spontaneous. Like that's how you do it. You know, you don't maintain 14 obsolete aircraft carriers pretend that globalism never happened that Vladimir Putin is an evil man and then hurl the population of your proxy state over and over and over and over and over again at the Russian Federation and then declare victory every week. Like that's not how you do it. Yeah, you could literally partner up with the out, out groups in these various countries to make you could, if you did, if you did the way Thomas is describing, you could literally have this apparatus pay for itself. Yeah, that's too. And it's what's also it's, I mean, there's a real people like like it's some big mystery how the, yeah, I think the British Raj, I think at peak, like not, not counting guys who were serving a crown charter companies or just, you know, like freebooter businessmen. I think there was literally about like 2000 guys who were in uniform or serving the crown of direct capacity, you know, in the 1920s and they were, they were ruling over, you know, like 400 million people on the subcontent. You know, it's not, it's not just something like weird accident. Then it's not because, you know, Hindus are stupid or something. You know, or whatever people band you about. I mean, obviously you can't reduce this stuff to memes anyway, but, you know, the, the, the, you know, that's, that's how you sustain something like that. And plus two, I mean, it's just that I don't, I, I will die in this hill. And I think it's in another thing people misconstrued because of the poisoning at discourse by these sort of gathly ideologies that normally exists outside of the internet. But, feeling I'm making some libertarian point when I raise the fact that as structure of the regime is decades obsolete, you know, they, they, they don't understand that what the government claims is strategic reality, as well as the reality of complex interdependence is, is totally at odds with actual reality, you know, and, um, maintaining a, the force structure is constituted, even accounting for some of these canceled programs that arguably were progressive in, in terms of their, um, the potential, uh, in terms of potential near a pair of adversaries that were being counted plated within the scenarios these platforms were devised for, you know, like the rhetorial ships. You, the regime is structured. It's military apparatus as like a scaled down duplicate of the Rima era, um, military that literally makes no sense, you know, um, and if you read about how these like command decisions are made, it's, it's literally make work for uniform fetishes and delusional people who, who don't understand that 20th century style warfare, not only is it, not only is it 40 years obsolete, but, uh, even in the the F.O.K. was this total outlier. You know, and I, um, Pro the average IQ of a you of a officer in the United States military is 98. Yeah, that sounds about right. That one's a prize. That's for your officer core because we, you know, just like every other place in the civil service. If you legally mandate, you know, the, you know, if you're going to get a, you know, you're going to get a civil bureaucracy full of retards. And this is not what we have. Like how can. I mean, World War two is kind of a, like, isn't, is kind of an outlier. Like you're talking about, but even the men that fought that, like, you can go to the Navy. And I bet you you test any single one of those guys in the Pacific theater. You're dealing with the people who are in the military. You're dealing with geniuses each. That's why people had a big deal about it that, um, Donets, uh, Donets of the highest IQ out of all the nerve-wrong defendants except I think Helm are shocked. And I, yeah, I mean, they being being a Navy admiral in the 20th century, you had to be something of a prodigy. You know, um, But I, uh, but I mean, it's just a regime that's not. That doesn't abide the zeitgeist. Is is not long for dessert. You know, like I said, I'm not, I'm not suggesting some punctuated collapse as M&M. This is this is not going process that's going to be like a century and a half. Or 200 years until it comes to full fruition. But like this idea that the regime can continue at naked odds with reality. Um, well, masquerading as if the 20th century is still upon us. I mean, that would have been like, uh, that would have been like when the, when the Soviet system was actually exhibited vitality. If the, the, the Politburo and, and the Supreme Soviet masqueraded as if there was still a czar, like it doesn't. You can't, you can't proceed at odds with consensus reality and physical reality and, and sustain. You know, um, aggregate political power within a dynamic system that is a governed by historical processes. In both approximate and remote capacity. And like I said, I'll die on that hill. At the Irish independence, we don't just report the news. If they're all in struggle, triumph. Hoi. I don't know. It was a mark that lasts. Irish independence. Yeah, it's, it's, it's coming to a point where we've, I, I started to look at it. Like Pete said about the, uh, this generic freaks that, you know, view it as their religion, almost like Trump as a, as a religion to where they, to, uh, to admit any, any fault or the lack of a plan is similar to, you know, denying. That, you know, God constructed the universe to where like the truth or falsity of that statement could literally unwind existence. Like this is how they view the fallibility of Donald Trump. They're literally holding on to a quarter, you know, a quarter millennia ago. Civic national belief in civic nationalism. That works, that works when we're 90% white. People, they don't, they don't actually have opinions. I mean, that's why I was coming to the point. Like these people have no take, you know, they're, and I think a lot of these motherfuckers don't even leave their house or they, you know, they, or they're living some shit town. They have no idea what the fuck's going on even in day to day capacities. They, they can assume memes and, and, uh, they watch some, you know, some goofy YouTuber who calls like everybody that he doesn't like a Marxist or something. And then they decide that like they have some take, but these people have no take, you know, they're, they're conceptual a litter. It's like a litter. It's, you know, they're not, they're not part of this. It's, it's like he said, Thomas, uh, they're playing an online MMO RPG called the online right. Like it's, yeah, completely irrelevant. And the good news is there aren't that many of them. Or that are under 75 years old. And so, it's completely irrelevant that these people are completely relevant. Yeah, we have to see them. Yeah, we have to deal with them, you know, from time to time or other people encounter them. We ignore them, but like they're completely irrelevant. And so I just can't get like two down about it. It sucks. Yeah, they don't want to charge through it, right? So this is something to people about these like grifters and these like nobody's like like princess dicky Spencer and like that, that, that Milo Fig. It's like these guys are, these guys are nobody's. You know, they, it's some vanity fair in the watching and post one day declared that like these random theater kids who like play it being the alt right, which is a term that makes no sense either that they invented are like an actual thing. You know, and it's like if you, if that's what structure is conceptual horizon. You know, you, you, you basically view the world to the lens of system media, you know, it's like so why it's like so why, why do you think you're dissing and coded if reality to you is what is what legacy media says it is. You know, that's why I don't, but I mean, like I was limiting the p to minute ago. I was peaked was nice enough to sit on my livestream and help me. What did this afternoon? I still get fools like emailing me you're popping up on my on my, um, the sub stack threads, you know, saying like, you know, you, you've got to, you've got to get back on Twitter to reach more people and you've got to like moderate this. I'm like, who the fuck told you that I'm part of the Jehovah's Witnesses or that like I'm trying to, I'm trying to like run for office or something. I'm like, if you think that it's like, why do you fucking my kind of you think that way, you know, like you're, it's like you're a total weirdo. I swear to God to some of these people, they don't really consume content. They're so fucking stupid and their attention span is that of like a dumb needle. So like they, they, they like, they what they look at memes like on TikTok. And they got some like loose idea where like they'll, you know, they'll like recognize me or some other kind of, um, like sub cultural content creator and be like, oh, that's, that's that right wing. You know, right wing is Donald Trump and like making watermelon jokes about nigger. So that guy is this right wing guy. And if you're a right wing, you've got to like own the lives by voting the right way. Like I think it's literally like that. I think they don't, I think these people like never read anything I've written. I've like never like listen to anything I said. You know, it's, it's literally a level of like, you know, monkey meme recognition. It's, it's a, it's almost like a complete lack of the ability to conceptualize one self out of outside of their immediate surroundings. Like outside of their immediate reality because it's like they can't interpret anything you say outside of the lens of what exists now. Right. The over in the old. The structure. You have to do an election. So they like, oh, well, I mean, I guess Thomas has to like, yeah, he's going to have to run for office. Or he's going to have to like get the message out like they, they're, they're using something that was not real and handed to them as the lens through which they evaluate any and all new information, including yours. No, exactly. Well, that's why too. I mean, we got to, and this is a Jewish level up point. And you know, like I said, I, I've always leaned in that direction in terms of sort of like the underlying theoretical paradigm that I abide. But as I age, I, I take it increasingly seriously. Like you've got to. And I, I, I'm sure people who hate on my perspective and on me for personal reasons, because they're dysfunctional. I'm going to say that this is just some rationalization for, you know, like a misplaced sense of elite status or whatever. But you, you've got to realize literally like 95% of these people like have no take, you know, they're not, they're not part of this. You know, there's always, um, and the people who win in revolutionary capacities, you know, whether you're talking about the NSVAP in the struggle years, whether you're talking about the Leninist cadre that conquered the Russian Empire, or whether you're talking about salad star in Cambodia. But you're always talking about a cadre structure that is a minority within a minority of Vanguardists, you know, and eventually such that, and because this isn't the 20th century, this is increasingly diminishing and importance every day. Such that you do need to build at least like a raw majority, at least a plurality within the sense of votes about the politic. That comes basically after you've defeated all the other Vanguardist tendencies, so because they just, they just follow the leader and the leader is whoever, you know, dominates the core institutions in such a way that, you know, he can impose as well. across the entire structure, you know, to what beneficial for you to be part of that contract. I'll go ahead, I'm sorry. No, I said, it has to be that way. It can't be any other way. Yeah. Because there else, there's no benefit of being, so the only way to get that majority is to dictatorially control those institutions. Because it's the only way that you can confer any type of benefit and raise up other, like if you can't raise me up in power and protect me from, you know, the wilds and machinations of the world. I have no reason to follow whatever political program, even whether I believe in it or not. So basically, Thomas, it has to play out exactly, as you said, because it's the only way it can play out. What also, no, that's true. In an astrological term, definitely. But also in the way people, in the way people develop a conceptual picture it's both complicated and it's not. It's complicated because the structure is a mind, particularly at the conceptual aspect of mind and people's ability to structure abstract phenomena and render it concrete. According to various reference points, both tangible and symbolic, that's a complicated process. You know, talking about someone who's not particularly intelligent. But it's at the same time, simpler than a lot of people make it. You know, it's not the, the body politics not sitting around. Spending their day in a library or contemplating, you know, the nature of man is a political animal. And even today with. Remarkable, you know, information awareness that is is, is, is, is, is, is, is temporally current, almost to the millisecond. Um, people aren't developing some independent perspective, unmasse of how political affairs are structured. It's always a, a top down. Um, engineering of the psychological environment. And then further curating that environment, you know, towards particular ends, you know, based on demographic considerations and, you know, based on. Contingencies of a historical or sociological nature that. You know, where was controlling the flow of information, which is emphasized that this is, this is the way propaganda works. You know, and, uh, and propaganda is not axiomatically insidious. I mean, it's, it's become a, sort of a synonym for evil or disinformation. I mean, it can mean that, but it can also just literally mean public awareness. You know, um, and, uh, you know, it's not, uh, and there's also like an instinctive aspect to this too, man. So I always emphasize. When I, the only reason why. A random brand like mine has any legs. Is because. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. And it's not because I've got like some like super high IQ. I don't. It's not a question of intelligence in that sense. Instinctively, you can either perceive these things that you can't. It's like having an instinct for playing cards. Like, Stewie hunger. He was the, yeah, he could count cards and he was a smart guy. But a lot of guys are smart and count cards. Stewie, younger somehow, I became the greatest gym player whoever lived. Because he had some weird instinct for the game. Other people don't have, you know, and. Systemically, if you can perceive political affairs. As they're happening, even before they happen, you know, that puts you ahead of. The pack and I can do that. And, um, that's, you know, again, it comes down to like how your mind is wired. And, um, this idea that. Like random people who consume. Memes and. And legacy media like have some take. I mean, that's, that's ridiculous. And I think that's going to die too. Like it doesn't. As, um, people that meant the fact that. The internet and social media. And, you know, the, the ability to consumer. Decorate their own taste. You know, that's, that's, that's killed the common experience of popular culture. And that further sort of like isolates people into these kind of cloistered demographics. It's like, it's good. Okay. That means that there's, you know, like a return to it, genuine popular culture. That is produced, you know, within the consumer basis of these things. You know what they're talking about, visual art or music or whatever. But it's also, um, that means that, uh, you know, not only is the. Not only is the legacy media bully pulpit dead. Because it no longer enjoys that absolute monopoly. But there is, it's impossible to. It's impossible to curate a, uh, a singular and, and monolithic. Case in point rap music. Yeah. Rap music has completely disappeared. Yeah. Over and a, within one, with one year here, the next year gone. As soon as they lost the bully pulpit. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's why, yeah, that's why like, um, hood culture. We come, like in the early 90s, just like absolutely saturating. The entirety of media. That was a total fucking, uh, sia. There was nothing. We're panic about that at all. Yeah. And that's why it took physical like intervention to kill rock and roll. But yet. Rap music was gone the second day took their foot off the gas. No, exactly. It was weird. It was hard to. Like it's as a. That's a whole like weird thing and it doesn't, um, and trying, trying to, trying to universalize it across demographics. And across time. Yeah, and it was a, and to part of it too was a, I look at part of rap music. Is being, I mean, obviously it was like a strong ideological catalyst. To pushing it. But also like if you don't, uh, if you're going to just like, if you're basically like grab hood, right, so off the street, you know, guys like method man or something. And then it's like, shut them into a studio where you don't, you know, you don't even need to literally. To use this track. You just like record the guy like, ramping over some freaking hook that repeats over and over. Like you basically just like bottomed out your costs. You know, just like, uh, it's kind of the same model as like how like reality reality TV. And you know, killed, uh, like traditional prime time programming. Because like reality TV is like I can get want to be actors to, you know, perform. I'm so you're not to pay them. And then I'll pretend it. Yeah, then I'll pretend it's a documentary. The bifurcating, uh, so it's, to your point earlier about like, uh, you didn't want to self-designate as an elite. And really, you don't really have to, right? The only people that can sit around all day and read books, sit around all day and think about these ideas that are large enough to where you have to sit around and think about them all fucking day because they're big. Like just as a fact of the nature of the thing. So you have to have some type of life situation that removes the necessity for grinding labor, right? Your attention is not being purchased by, you know, a company where that be pecking away to keyboard or moving boxes. Your attention is being purchased for money. Only people that don't have a need for that, whether they have obtained a way to financially support themselves or have a mass to certain amount of capital to where they can, you know, support themselves in perpetuity. This takes time. Like you need time to think about this stuff. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't. Including obviously, Werner, Sombart, first and foremost, but they're still available. You're saying this idea that man's time must all be accounted for that man's natural status to be idle. So you're really, you're really not harming the agency of the individual and industrial economy by forcing him to sell his attention and sell his labor producer. You know, they're very, very effectively rebutted that and that's and that's very true. Right to be at leisure would be a better way of, you know, inter translating into today's parlance because that's what a gentleman was. No, I mean, I'm lost in translation like that, but it, but it also this idea that. I mean, that this a that that was a real thing and under industrial conditions of evaluated national economy, you know, that like most employers really were time thieves. You know, and that's why there were, I mean, even a Mars and angles. There were profound sociological insights that they were rendered, even if the paradigm that those insights emerged wherein was corrupt and false. That's one of the reasons that sociology seriously, it's been strangled for the same reason why disciplines that traditionally would have in the continental system would have been lumped into like philology. The real cultural anthropology doesn't exist anymore. My brilliant strategy that you guys know has really kind of driven that point home to me in the last couple of months to where I'm surprised I didn't see it before, but the level of which the social sciences and I have been absolutely just crushed is really hard to grasp until you really start digging in there. Yeah, very much so. Thankfully, I mean, the university system's dying and one of the reasons I do what I do is because I think I'm contributing to the remedy that because there's a resurgence in intellectual life and it's being effectively produced just by guys who take an urge in these things and dedicate their life to it and find a way to monetize. This is why I'm drawing a big difference between streamers and podcasters or sub-stackers. Because a streamer is basically being paid for his attention. You have to entertain people right then and there. You have to do your dance or whatever it is and you depend on them watching you and you have to be entertaining for them to watch you. It is actually, it is no different than working a job. You are being paid for your attention. But with podcasts and sub-stacks, I find that basically it is you sit around and you think doing the type of at leisure things we're describing and then you condense those, you know, the fruits of that intellectual labor and you present them. And people pay to support you very similar to like the patrons of the arts, unfortunately, on a much less in noble fashion. But this is what the population is doing. And the people are doing the same thing. And what a Lord's situation was like. Yeah, and that's why there's all kinds of correctives in the market. And that's why black pillars are fucking idiots because it's literally intellectual lordship. Right. Well, I mean, in the arts too, it's a real thing. There's great music to produce, including rock and roll. There's great visual art being produced. Like there's all kinds of shit that is great that even 20 years ago was unthinkable because the bully pulpit was still absolute, even if fractures were appearing therein. Hey, man, you know, you're gonna sell me the second time my family was in nobled was for poetry. Yeah. No, it's very cool. The Anglo society was refined enough once upon a time to realize nobility in a man's ability to create poetry. Right. Poetry was as good in determining a man's noble worth as martial prowess. Well, yeah, because that's that's part of the that's part of the perennial cultural mind. And there's a linear epigenetic aspect to heritage quite literally. I think that that's why culture is already immortal. You know, and that's one of the things along with meaningful faith in God and congregational observance therein that mitigates people's anxiety about and what meant about dying, but also cultural productivity is as important as economic productivity or military productivity or anything else. You know, it's all part of the past each that constitutes a complete human experience. And that's the entire reason for these communitarian institutions that taken together constantly to culture away a life. You know, and that's one reason so insidious that. You know, the the arts for almost a century, I've been totally co-opted by, you know, an occupational element whose ambition was to not just pornography it, but to de contextualize and de-historicize these things and demoralize people. And ultimately, rather than their ability to live historically, which is a kind of. And see this go ahead and support for modern arts. I have a friend who's a very large art dealer. And he and I were talking the other day and he said it's overnight. People's interest in not like people's interest and go seeing it, but the people that actually support the arts like the people that pay hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars, you know, to stare at it. The interest in purchasing modern art has almost collapsed overnight. Interesting. Yeah, it's very telling everyone only wants great masters. That's it. So they only want the classics. It's the only thing people are willing to buy. This is all broken. I think so. I mean, he's like no one will, no one is really showing up to gallery events for new artists. He's like, really he and I were talking about about new artists and we sat and struggled with it for a couple of minutes. And we can only think of one one that was worthwhile that one one artist where we would actually purchase painting a painting of his and hang on. Out of hundreds of modern earth that is dope. You know, like the guy you died appetite for destruction. Like his entire catalog is a was it Williams, I think. Yeah. I know exactly talking about. Yeah, no, it's it's awesome. And there's a there's random like street artists here that I actually actually like. But no, I the days of. You know, like the nine, the nine, six, he's in 70s and even in the eighties this is kind of. If you came to us or terror by the 90s, people are still paying top dollar from our northern 90s, but it become this kind of niche thing. But the days where you know, you host like a cocktail party in the 70s. And there's some like super abstract piece of shit on the wall. And some guys like, yeah, you know, like a paid like $20,000 for that. And it was like, ooh, like like nobody nobody's impressed by that anymore. Like even if even if you're even if you're in the art fall the wrong reasons or a cloud chaser, like nobody, nobody gives a fuck about that. Which is fascinating. Yeah. And it's. Well, even like. I when people come visit me a lot, I like I take the art. I take it to the museum campus. You know, I've seen the highlight to me is is a you know, the U 505 submarine and there's like a shuka at the science industry museum and all kinds of cool stuff. But I take out of the art institutes. I got I got warm feelings about it. My dear friend Ben, who was an artist, he died really tragically years back. But he was my he was my dear friend from high school when he lived with me when we were in college. And he went to the art institute. And so I hang out with them there all the time, you know. And but even my favorite aspect of their institute. It's the Renaissance and early modern religious paintings and stuff. And just like and like the heroic realist style, the color saturation and the depiction of light and shadow. It's completely forget insane man that you know, and anybody. Even even even early 20th century stuff that I like, you know, like Salvador Dali. His colors might pop better, but it's not the same sort of saturation. You know, I don't I don't know anything about visual art. I'm sure it's a deli. But I know what I like. Check out check out somebody in the artist by the name of Ross Calleendo. Okay. It's spelled C.A. Here I'll spell it for you because I also suck at spelling. R.O.S.S. C.A.L. I.E.N.D.O. And I think you will be it's very similar to what you're talking about. I.E.N.D.O. Yeah, he uses his uses color theory very, very proficiently. Oh, well, okay. No, I'm a I like to think I got a good eye for optics like I think I'm good at like picking out clothes and stuff. I think I think I got a decent eye for like what's going to pair well in terms of color scheme. But I I very much like a words guy and a music guy. I can't draw for shit. You know, it's like it's the jinx of the left. He's like left. These are other great artists so they can't even draw stick figures. I'm like, what about. I was a pretty good artist to. Is a really good artist. Yeah, I have always been you guys who can draw. Plus, if you're a writer, if you're a weirdo and probably an alcoholic or like a criminal, all of which made me through. If you're like an artist, the girls are like, why do you like paint them make it and stuff? Like it's just like way more like cloud behind it. I. But no, I always. I took a when burden was visiting Mrs. Burns relatives in Andersonville. I took him to the art institute and we had a blast. He was really impressed man. He really. He really got to I got to sit in in Salvador, Donnelly's Rolls Royce a couple weeks ago. That's pretty awesome. Nick. Yeah, it's pretty fucking rad. Yeah. Ross Calleando, this is great stuff, man. Thanks for the tip. This is the only this, the only modern artist. If you want to if you want to buy it painting, I can hook you up with a good deal. It's incredible. I've got us being brushed and up against people because you know, you know, I like Picasso was a big deal in Chicago because of like the Picasso, which is like a fucking horrible sculpture. And like, starting to have a Picasso was like a dickhead in terms of his politics. Like I've always thought I've always thought is I've always hated the Picasso. It's a fucking piece of shit. And I've also himself was trash. Like I just never got into it. It's the ideal of I do love the GM by modern lovers on the, uh, Reho Mansell, Turek, you know, probably Picasso was never called an asshole unlike you. Probably Picasso's a faggot. Yeah, he really was. Can we can we go back to something that Thomas mentioned? Of course. Yeah, Thomas mentioned, um, you know, not being black pill than everything like that. You three, you three know me in real life. Am I black? No, not at all. Okay. Yeah. If you were like, it wouldn't be friends because you'd be like weirdo who like didn't like there. I mean, you're my friend to my friend. And you know, I got, I got everyone was my friend. I got like huge love for him. But I mean, I, but you'd be, you'd be, it'd be like a detriment to hang out with you if you were a black gold person. Like people like like toxic negativity is a real thing. I don't fuck with people. Yeah. You like visiting me in real life. You still come to do it. But apparently if you talk shit about the grand rabbi of Washington DC Donald Trump and how much of a traitor he is and he's not, he doesn't work for, you know, America. That's black pilling. And you're going to black pill people. That's what I get. Yeah. These, these, these fucking hewats have, they have no take. I mean, like I, they can't conceptualize winning outside of winning presidential elections and owning the Republican party like they basically can't conceptualize a worldview where the shit that is fucking them over, it doesn't exist. Right. They're slaves. No, exactly. They're brains having slave them. Yeah. I mean, I, I mean, they still think, they still think like this, like this system somehow, if I get control of the reins of this obsolete system, I'm going to make it work for me. Yeah. I'm going to pay all the black people their welfare benefits. I don't know. No, no, they're, no, they're all going back. They're all going back. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's why it's, it's a, it's something like weird, it's something like weird, it's like playing video games with them. It's something like weird cathartic fantasy that for stupid people that, that doesn't actually exist in reality. Like I don't own, but that's also the reason why, you know, I tell people, like, I'm like, you know, look, like if you're using social media and these online platforms, and what we're doing here, you know, we're to come together with people, you know, basically and have like what I'm asked like a study session or, you know, to bring people up to speed or like, we're the, this kind of content, you know, by, well, at the same time, you know, augmenting your own knowledge base, like that, that's the worthwhile use of time. Like beyond that, what you're, everything you should be doing is either, you know, worrying towards, you know, the posterity of your long form stuff or the stuff that's going to be enduring, is going to serve, you know, comrades that's exceed us, or, you know, building social capital in real space. If you're not doing those things, you're, you're just some guy like consuming memes and training bumper sticker platitudes with other idiots and, you know, playing a video game. You know, like these guys, these guys don't actually exist in real space. You see, I don't get like that, you know, like they're not, it's a, it's the nervous being a guy who is in some battlefield or under fire and some guy who's like literally playing a video game, you know, and the latter trying to have a conversation with the former about the reality of a, of a, you know, modern warfare at like fire team level or something, you know, one thing is going to do with the other. I'm trying, I'm trying to figure out how they're all dealing with their pussy's bleeding over the past week when, you know, Bovino comes out and says, there are no deportations happening. This is farthest from all those brains of the work. Yeah, if it's a really, or it's a really small number and oh, by the way, there's like a hundred million illegals here. Everyone knows it on the inside that there's a hundred million people who shouldn't be here. And it's like they're all going back, man. They're all gone. Go ahead. Go ahead. You should tell me, tell me how the fuck you're going to do that. Well, we're going to get our guy elected and he's going to be like the Austrian painter and he's going to shut the fuck up. Do you control looking for Virginia? Anybody like nobody should be voting. I mean, this idea that was also too. I mean, like even these guys don't understand too. I mean, I've had a point to win a wign at. I'm like, if you guys actually, you'd be the first to go. That's like get rid of you because you're, because you're white and words number one, number two, it's a, you know, again, you think in terms of memes, like you don't actually understand what you're saying. You have no idea what you're talking about. You know, like you're not. It's all Twitter posts. It's one of the most important memes in, yeah, like and like bullshit they saw on fortune. Well, I have a, I have, I have something I want to present to you. So my, my British friend that you all know, she is very like hip to like the state of the art, whatever in various social sciences. And she pulled up a study that apparently been replicated a bunch of times because I obviously bitch about this a lot. There's as much as a bothers peat, it bothers me how these fucking cocksuckers can just continue on it. And what she said to me was, well, and this to your point, Thomas, about how like it's something outside of intelligence, right? Intelligence in the IQ scale sense is different from having this political sense of things. Right. Because the, the study show like the more intelligence someone is, right, the more that they will use that intelligence to basically twist themselves up into pretzels to preserve their worldview. So increasing in intelligence doesn't actually make you able to basically decipher what's going on. You just use that intelligence more to figure out ways to, to basically to rationalize this, to where it doesn't assault your worldview to where it's not a threat to you, right? The intelligence goes 100% towards pain avoidance. Well, yeah, there's a reason, there's a reason why it's, it's, it's not, it's not a bunch of like, stovant mathematicians who run everything. You know, like it's not a point of people. I guarantee that like some like little worm like Bill Gates has a higher IQ than Napoleon or Muhammad or Adolf Hitler. There's also like not a single person on this planet who would ever die for Bill Gates. You know, like it doesn't it, like like IQ is a real thing. There's a set of characteristics and traced measures, but it's a very, it's a very narrow spectrum of human characteristics. It's not something like end all be all thing. You know, I think I, I don't know why people, it is almost a spiritual sensitivity what we're talking about. Yeah. That's actually what you're doing. You're picking up on basically the, the subconscious isn't real, but the collective conscious of the mass body of people that surround you. Yeah. That's how you know what's coming down the pipe. That's how you know what is possible and what's not is because you're basically doing symbolic psychology is a real thing. And it's why I like the Frank Herbert books because he was a big Carl J. Asperger's and yeah, and he was really into the, you know, that psychology had a, like before a Charlotten's and idiots, it came to dominate the discipline and turn it into this grift and, you know, first among them, you know, people like Freud. Before it became this like voodoo garbage, there was a lot of really insightful stuff being produced. Then, you know, I take that seriously and yeah, symbolic psychology is a huge aspect of, of a political ontology. That's the type of, yes, P. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's something to that. Not in the sense it goes to hundreds and things, but you know, there are, I was talking to the data burden on one of the, one of the, when we were recording about, let's find the Herbert books. There's on a planet of rack is there's a tarot deck. And Carl Jung, he, he was in his life, a little out with, with a, not just tarot card, but running them all. playing cards, you know, they had to get conventional paints, you know, face cards. And visual stimulus that's, you know, random within a certain data set. People are not entirely consciously gravitate towards patterns that they associate in their mind symbolically with other phenomena. And the more people gravitate to those things, presumably you can give an eight certain aspects of, you know, the public mind. And what's, you know, what aspects are being excited they're in in terms of extent narratives and things like that. And I take that seriously. It's not just mystical mumbo jumbo or something. But I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to balance because I'm not feeling well and I gotta eat something, you know, off my feet. All right, my friend. Good to go. What's up? I will stay and take care. Good time. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Well, we'll, we'll catch up in the chat. I'm waited to do something. Yeah. And let's, uh, we'll try and make the, uh, the next one a little bit sooner than three weeks. So I don't get herringing on, uh, on social media. Apparently one of the things social media is used for is bothering you guys. See you later. I'd like to, I'd like to do it by weekly. But you guys, you guys got demands on. It was fine. Yeah. All right, fellas. Uh, let me know when this is posted. And please like tag me in the description. Like add on sub stack when you upload it. Like add my name as one of the creators that will automatically get notified. Why not we go to do this. Carl is the only one that sub stack lets me and this too. Well, I'll take this offline. I will, uh, one of you guys walk me through it. Yeah. Thank you. All right, guys. All right. Later. We need all right. But what do you want to talk about? I think we should talk about respect, ability, politics and the fact that, um, all right, I was talking to our mutual mutual dark enlightenment about this a lot lately. All right. I'd like to reference the Charlie Kirk assassination. And what's happening now? Because at the time of the Charlie Kirk assassination, um, there was this, this narrative that got seated into our space rather quickly. And then became a, like a, a, a means of enforcement, right? Like if you tried to say this was Israel, you are a cook that's just like Candace Owens and you are helping the left. Right. We, we believe it is Ross. What is that his name Ross? Whatever it doesn't matter. Right. This is who did it. We're going to believe the FBI narrative. And if you try and say that it is Israel responsible in, or Israel involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, then you are not a serious person. And you need to be pushed out of dissident right wing spaces and you're helping the left and basically Candace Owens. And I did an audio essay about that, about, I tell it walking and chewing gum at the same time. And which Tucker later went on to basically, uh, perform magically, um, with basically, he's been doing that on target. He's been doing that a lot lately. Exactly. I mean, what happened? I've been, I've been quoted almost directly in his newsletter a few times in the last couple of weeks. And I'm like, saying guys come on. His most recent interview today, that dropped like there is three stormy waters. Like it eats like each more, each episode that he drops, like more and more times. Can you like point me like I said that. I know where he got this. I know where he got this framing for this. Well, it's his producers. And hi guys, we love you. We love you very much. And you are allowed to steal all of the stormy waters. Takes you would like royalty free. Ben Shapiro, it is one million dollars per frame reference. If he starts talking about the feet, I'm gonna like really jump out of my chair. So it's talking about what? About feats. I just did a big, uh, effort post about footwear and socks and stuff like that. I get a lot of questions about my kind of niche preferences because of my hiking and running experiences. And immediately people are like, uh, why didn't you tell us the story about the foot fetishes that you met? I was like, look, here's a thing. I don't know how you, how I'm supposed to talk about the Charlie Kirk assassination very seriously. Like the official story. Yeah. All right. Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson's trans boyfriend's name is Lance twigs. Lance twigs. A trans name Lance twigs. You're fucking with me. Okay. I can see you're fucking with me. I can see that there's just a real fucking stop it. There's no way a trans dude's name is Lance twigs. That's made up. Come on. Stop it. Yeah. And people people think, oh, no, that's you're being like, this is a cook stuff. Case in point, the nine Iranian women or whatever that they regime is going to hang or something. Right. Like there's no, the first person to post this is Eli Yaqobi. Right. No, one of them is their aunt that they're going to do this. Right. One of them was mom Dami's wife and a wig. Yeah. It's retarded. They made up nine women and the fucking president of the United States. Right. That supposedly the most powerful man in the world is now begging the Iranian government to not kill nine made up bitches. Nine, not real hose. Guess what? They agreed to it. Of course they did. Like who he wants to do what? Yes, sure. We'll kill nine fake will will not kill nine not real people for you. What do we get in exchange? Oh my God. But it seems like a flex. Like all this stuff seems like someone gloating. Right. I mean, it's it's so how how hard do you work at your job? Right. Like you need to tell me if this was your job, like because there's thousands of people that are employed to create these type of meta narratives. Yeah. Right. Like how hard are you going to work? Okay. And nobody takes their job 100% seriously. So you tell me when you're you know you're in the in the control room, type not like all right. We got to think of a fucking true name. True name true name true name. Twigs. Like you're going to take you're going to have some fun with it. It's like the it's like the pilots that have to fly all day and then knowing that radar or radar, you know, flight control people watch them and they draw dicks in the sky. It's no different. But the thing I wanted to get back to is because of her seeing it. Well, it's all it's all look to your point about, you know, it's all this. If you criticize the administration, you're citing with the left. If you're doing look, man. Yep. Here's the problem. They know that scared little babies who think that the regime is going to come after them are going to vote Republican no matter what. Yep. Yep. They've got them into that corner. And I'm not saying that you have to vote Democrat. Okay. Because that's the next thing to say. Because because everyone has to have the Jewish argument of yeah, maybe you shouldn't be maybe you shouldn't be bombing Gaza. Oh, so your pro-Hamas. So everybody jumps to that kind of argument because everybody's become so judyized. It's, look, man, these people are not working for us. You know, and I think the proper, you know, when they say, Oh, who's the future of mega? Is it J.D. Vance? Is it? No, you are. You're the only one. You and your friends, you and the people you're getting together with. You're in the people you're organizing with. You and the people who you're looking to, you know, get your buddy elected sheriff of the county or get a friend, you know, elected, try to get him into the governor's office or something like that. You're the future of making America great again. None of these things. James Fishback. James Fishback is the leading candidate for the governor of Florida, the leading candidate. Dan Balsarian is running for Congress and will likely win. James Fishback was an unemployed, crazy person whose only claim to fame was working at a hedge fund for two weeks and then suing the hedge fund, saying that they stole his trading ideas. He's a dummy wrong. James Fishback is a pathological liar. He's not a good person. But he pulled out of his ass, but will likely be a Republican governorship. Incredible. Oh, that he's an awayman. Because they are. Byron Daniels is the only person that that they have. I know this because I talked to the person. Remember when I told you, I told you I talked to, I had a conversation with a boomer, you know, important political person. This is what he's upset about. It's basically nobody vetted byron Daniels who's an absolute disaster. As soon as you basically like look into him, somehow he managed to fucking slink his way into Congress. And that problem is, it's it's Byron Donald's by the way, whatever, whatever, A pack, a pack Shakir, a pack Shakir, Don Quavius Jenkins, yes. But basically like what is your fucking excuse? Is James Fishback doing respectability politics? Is James Fishback scared to say no that I think the Jews have enough power? Thanks. Or yeah, maybe we don't do stuff for Israel. Israel's the fucking worst. Like Israel is actually a detriment to our society. Our relationship with Israel hurts us. Right. We have guys on. We have guys on our side. Thinking that they're doing respectability politics. So first I want to say this and I'm going to talk about what I want to say why why I'm not angry at them because I'm not. If Tucker Carlson is breaking down the most popular media figure in America, Candace Owens, say whatever you want. She is the most popular podcaster in the fucking world. Like that's a fact. And Tucker Carlson is the most popular in America. And if he is breaking down to all of the people that watch him, how the Holocaust is the official religion of America has displaced Christianity and the people that are responsible for this, when about creating this situation intentionally and it is the one thing you're not allowed to criticize. And it's the only thing the government is willing to come after you with force and try and disenfranchise you or and or throw you in jail. Right. This is the thing you can't criticize. This is the most important. This is that is the crux of really all of our like all of the dissident. If you could like pick one idea that came out of our spheres that if you were to chuck at the popular narrative would do the most damage. It's fucking Holocaust the entity. Oh yeah. That's it. Like Holocaust the fucking real. This is a religion. Right. They're using it to displace Christianity and also control the minds of America and its political process. Like this is the one thing. And Tucker and it's been like the like people that'll say like, oh, Jews are being bad. Even they won't touch the fucking Holocaust. And Tucker Carlson is demystifying and taking all the power away from the Holocaust to the largest media audience that's ever existed in the United States of America. And there's a lot of guys in our sphere that are just afraid to be like, yeah, well, the Jews did it. It's the fucking Jews. Sorry. You're not allowed to say that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by Jews. Charlie Kirk was assassinated by Jews. You know, I'd say that. If you do that, you're helping that you're helping the left and you sound like a cook. I'm sorry. It's Tucker Carlson a cook. No. What he's doing is legitimizing these ideas. And our guys are missing the fucking moment. James Fishback's not missing the moment. All right. A fucking pathological liar and probably psychotic person that he may be. He's not missing the moment. He's doing the thing that half of the guys in our sphere tell us that normies aren't ready for it. To Thomas's point, these guys are so fucking online and up their own ass that they don't actually talk to regularly. They don't know what the regular person is ready for or not. Tucker does. So I'm not angry. If you're listening to this and this sounds like you or you were one of the people that told me told Carl or told Pete that we were helping the left. We need to be pushed out of this in spaces because we're saying the Jews killed Charlie Kirk. Well, motherfucker, first off, we were right. Uh-huh. And second off, like you are there has something has interrupted your ability to perceive what regular Americans are willing to take and what answers Americans are looking for. And this is a fucking thing that we are going this respectability politics stuff like this whole narrative about Charlie Kirk getting killed by Jews. This is going to help. This is going to hurt the left. This is going to help the left. This is going to we only have this small window of time. We have to do this in. We have to point it at this. Don't be a cook like that message went out everywhere just like the second the SPLC thing went out. This other narrative immediately came down about how all white advocacy organizations are just fed ups like we've seen it everywhere. This type of narrative manipulation is going to hit our spheres really, really hard because and this is the same reason why I'm not mad. There are guys a lot of guys Pete, you know him Carl, you know him. We've seen him at meetups. Right. Like there's a lot of guys that through no fault of their own. I haven't really been given a chance to do anything. Right. That they can feel accomplished about. Right. There are guys that are you know in their early 20s. They're doing all the right things like they're the Eagle Scout kids. Like there are guys. Right. They're the guys that are stand up dudes. But our society has removed from them any chance of recognition that they are men. Right. Like there. There's no method. There's no mechanism in our society that allows these guys especially because they're age especially because what our society is basically chosen how it's going to treat men. Right. These guys are doing all the right things. They're trying to be buttoned up. They're trying to be stand up guys and nothing exists to where they can basically earn the respect of other men. They can't they're unable to get recognized as respectable guys. Right. There any way of doing that through employment or education. Right. Or entrepreneurial accomplishments. Those have all been denied them. Right. The type of social organizations and religious organizations that would confer that type of stuff. That's all been denied them. So they have no way of getting respectability. And if you're 20, if you're in your early 20s, there is nothing you want more than the recognition of other men that you are a man. And because of this, we are going to a large percentage of our guys are going to be fucking susceptible to this respectability bullshit every single time. Take it away. What are your thoughts? Good. Carl. I totally get what you mean. And it's hard because we really need all kinds. Like people serve people serve different roles. Like people reach people at different stages along the way. So I understand some of these arguments for them. But what you're pointing out, Stormy, which is the killer point is that these people determine that they are the respectability police because they want to be respected and they want to be respectable. Yeah. Like no, that's not how this works. But you need to understand reality and you need to explore things. And sometimes you'll be like, yeah, the official story is closer to what I think is probably the truth. I mean, I think we were all kind of like with the Charlie Kirk thing. At first, we're kind of like, well, let's see how this plays out. I can't make a proclamation yet. But then there's enough compelling evidence that comes out where you're like holy shit. And yeah, so it's an interesting, it's an interesting quandary because, you know, we have to find ways for these people to do things in real life that matter. And like that's literally the most important thing that I could say about anything is that if you get together with guys, you don't have the misunderstandings when you're talking face to face that you have online just inherently. It's just inherently siloing and alienating and leads to conflict and so on and so forth. And so that's really what the answer is, you know, and it sucks because like you want to reach these people, but, you know, a lot of people just can't be helped. So hopefully, hopefully these people are developing cadres of people, IRL, and they can hash it out there and they don't need to be performative online and the thought police for their enemies on behalf of them. They're generally, I see this from the digging around that I've done is like all it really takes is like for some person in the system, like a congressional staffer or something like that because we do interface, right? Like it's a spectrum. So our guys are like us to where they're just completely disengaged and then there are guys that are still involved, right? Like they're still mentally archives, but they are in the machine. Yeah. And it's just it's very easy for somebody with a little bit of clout, right? Somebody with that respect to where they can believably confer some of that and they're like, hey, man, like I agree with everything you're saying, like, hey, if you could just tone it down about like the Jews and this Charlie Kirk thing right now, because it it seemed to be times time sensitive in its imperative, right? Like it's the one thing that kind of dominated the narrative. I would say like all of regime efforts in our space because I mean, don't get me wrong. Like guys, there's a whole bunch of guys you can think of off the top of your head that are just regime spigots, but that somehow exists in our spheres, right? All those guys all that once were like, you can't say the Jews killed Charlie Kirk. You can't say it Jews killed Charlie Kirk. Yeah. And in that in that moment where our guys can't really decide like what to do. All it takes is just a little nudge from someone that they view as respectable. It doesn't have to be a tacit promise. Our guys lack a lot of guys lack things experience accomplishments that they can stand on their own two feet and say, fuck you. Like, I don't care what you think. Like that's nice, but like, I don't need anything from you. There's nothing this system can give me. What do you think, Pepe? Well, I mean, I've been saying this. It's the whole respectability thing. You know, people, you know, I know I've been saying this and people are probably really sick of me hearing me say this, but I'll never be sick of it. If you're going to go, if you're going to join the GOP now, I can understand on the local level, state level. That's where we want to work. But the national GOP, Washington, DC, the GOP is gay as fuck. Okay. I think it was, it was they're trying to fucking root you out if you didn't attend fucking. You should. Yeah. One of my , you know, one of my friends said it was your aim. Yes. Yeah. One of my friends said it this way, said, um, the Democrat Party promotes homosexuality. The Republican Party practices it. But you're going, you, you go to Washington, DC and I'm going to, I'm going to infiltrate. I'm going to say you're going to be working side by side with Sodomites, probably child molesters. I mean, you, you're telling me that's not going, that's not going to hurt you in some way, shape, or form spiritually. I mean, you, you think you're doing the right thing, but you've basically just, you've gone to Sodom and Gomorrah and there is not like, I'm sorry, you think you're the one person who, who God's going to look upon and go, okay, okay, we'll save it because there's one upright man here. Not that ship has sailed a long fucking time ago. Get out because it is going to be destroyed. And if it's not destroyed, it's going to destroy you. And these people who are like, oh, well, I need, you know, I get in there, you know, and I mean, I can have a career. I can really, I can really make change. I can really, what, did you stop the, did you stop the bombing in Iran? Did you stop the one last June? Did you stop February 28th? Are you getting the, are you getting mass deportate? What are you doing? Yeah, Joe can't have that same fault. Yeah. I mean, if Joe Kent is like the head of like this, you, I mean, Robert F. Kennedy is starting a podcast because he says he can basically influence the, do more in the world with his podcasts than he can as the head of whatever, I can't remember what fucking agency he had. NHS, yeah. Yeah. It's like, the, the system is not, the system is designed so that one group, one small group can, or competing groups can, can take control and have control of it. But it's turned out that just one group has control of it. And they're set, they're basically initiating wars. And they're saying, no, you can't do deportations. But, but, but no, you're going to go there and as a staffer and as a clerk, you're going to change everything. Oh, no, I'm going to implant myself there because, because the regime is going to fail one day. And I need to be here so that I can take, shut the fuck up and get out, go back to your, whatever state you're from to your local area and take the knowledge you've learned there and start working there. That's the way this works. That is not, it is not going to change. It may as well, they, you may as well call Washington, DC, Tel Aviv now. It's going to die. That's wrong. Tel Aviv. It's most, yeah, it's going to die, but we don't know when. And people are like, well, you know, it's an intergenerational war, which I agree. So we need to intergenerationaly insert ourselves into there and make our own deep state. No, it's just me. You step back. By the time you do that, it's going, it's already an anachronism. It's not going to work at that point. It's going to get to a point where it doesn't work. And now you're middle age with a mortgage and need the gig. Yeah. Everybody who thinks is like, oh, I'm going to go there and I'm going to check. You know how many people have gone? I mean, I remember back in like 2018, this guy contacted me. He's like, dude, I work at the biggest one of the biggest lobby, lobby and agencies in DC. Can I come on the show and talk? And he talked about his origin story. His origin story was he was working with a guy in Texas. He was working on his campaign and the guy ran as Ron Paul to get elected. And then when he got to DC, what did he do? He immediately reverted to becoming one of them. So this guy was like, well, shit, I mean, I'm here. I don't want to work on the hill because I'm not going to make any money. I've made some contacts along the way. Let me make some money by going to work for a lobbying group. And he went to work for a lobbying group, but he just came on the show and said, you know, and basically expose what's happening. Thomas Massey actually listened to that episode and said it was one of the best episodes of a podcast you ever heard because it explained how Washington works exactly perfectly. Well, how do you think you're going to go there and change it? How do you think you're going to go? What are you going to go there and set up so that when it collapses, you can take over. What are you going to take over? The only thing you have control over is where you are. And DC is not your home. Go home. Go home and start working there. There's people that we care about. You can take care of the people you care about better by working within a hundred mile radius of your home. Then you can go into fucking Tel Aviv on the Potomac. Yeah, this is a credibility thing. This is why I think it's hilarious that all the fucking Indians, the new arrivals are clamoring for positions just like the Jews did in the existing apparatus. They don't actually, like, they're not creative or intelligent people. Right. So they can only see what exists. Right. Like from an investor standpoint, this is a crowded trade. You already know it's not the play anymore because everyone is piling into it. Right. That tells you that it's, that's not where it's going to be. And that's exactly what they're doing. Right. So like they don't realize that the thing is rapidly, like they can't see where it is going. They can only see what's going on. only see where it is. It's like, oh, this is the halls of power. This is how you get power. And they don't actually, probably because I haven't been here very long, they can't see the diminishing, rapidly diminishing credibility of the system. Governments don't need militaries. Governments don't need internal police forces. All these things are secondary to credibility. Once credibility is lost, none of those other systems function. Those are secondary systems that exist to protect the credibility. And this is something I've been thinking about a lot, guys. It is the kind of like the black hole nature of credibility. And the Jews are going through this right now. Trump is going through this right now. Once in a black hole, it's kind of interesting. Once you pass, it's called the event horizon, right, which is like the apex point, right? The laws of physics literally flip, right? It's like the relationship between the fundamental forces flip. So when you cross the credibility event horizon, every single action can only go the opposite direction, right? So once you pass the credibility horizon, it doesn't matter what you do. Things that would generally gain new credibility now have the opposite effect. They take it away, right? So the things Trump does to try and regain credibility because he has passed that credibility point, all they do is diminish his credibility. And I'll, I'll, I'll thumb it down really simple. The day before yesterday, captive dreamer that fucking peanut headfaggot was he's a white Somali. Oh, he fucking is, isn't he? He's a white Somali. Literally someone so ugly your dad wants nothing to do with you. Slave, he is a fucking slave, but he thought in me criticizing this SPLC DOJ indictment, which is not something like, yeah, you can celebrate it cool. But if you're not concerned with the particular thing that they went after the SPLC for, then you might not understand what's going on. But anyways, he tried to insinuate that I am a paid SPLC agent, right? The SPLC's defunct all the Jewish leadership, like they all left. I mean, there's nobody there to go. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's, it was a skeleton that money was still passing through, but it hasn't been any exactly or fine. But what did they, what did they go after it for? White supremacy organ, the funding of white supremacy organizations. And they're saying that that's funding of terrorism. Oh, well, that's interesting. So basically giving money to white advocacy organizations is a crime. Okay. But a captive dreamer, you know, basically quote tweets, means like, oh, well, you know, this is obviously a paid SPLC agent. And I was like, man, like, nigga, you're the guy that gets paid by Israel to post shit. Like, what are you even saying? And I got him a little flustered and he, he's like, yeah, so, well, yeah, so I put, I put the on those anti-Cendemic anti-Semitism posts that they were paid promotions. Right. I got paid by Israel. How come you won't put in your posts that you're paid by the SPLC? I was like, whoa, you were what? Oh, I was just joking. I was just joking about being paid by clown nose, clown nose on clown nose off. Yeah. That's what they all do. Oh, no, exactly. I was kidding. Exactly. But if everyone already thinks that you're a paid Israel shell, then that joke actually doesn't work. It becomes counter-effective. Right. So if I say, hey, guys, I'm paid by Israel because that's such an outlandish possibility, that joke is funny. But now somebody else can make the exact same joke and it's not funny. It actually further condemns them as a paid, you know, to show. Captive Dreamer has passed the credibility of enterizon. Nothing he does to try and gain credibility back works. It always just backfires. Everything the Trump administration does to try and gain credibility back ends up backfiring because once you pass that point, you simply acting at all brings eyeballs to you. This is the whole thing with them trying to distract away from the war in Iran. Right. By making a big deal out of nothings at home. Well, see, that's a problem. Like, yes, you want to take away eyeballs from your fuck up in Iran. But the problem is, is that because you have absolutely no credibility, those eyeballs are going to find other stuff that you're not going to want because if everybody's like, oh, well, Trump's fucking control by Jews, whatever, I'm bored of Iran. Where am I going to look? And now all of a sudden, everyone is finding out how much money him and his family have been making. Nobody was paying attention to that before. Right. Nobody was even noticing really the Trump corruption on the right until he had lost that credibility to where now when our eyeballs are focused away from the thing that you don't want us looking at, where do you think we're going to go? And this is a problem with the regime. Everything it does, right, reduces its credibility. It's losing legitimacy rapidly. So you're trying to embed yourself into this thing so you can be there when it collapses. What? So you can take it over. Like, you're going to take over a thing that nobody finds credible anymore. Right. Like, you're going to, it's like taking over the SPLC. Oh, you took over the SPLC. You embedded yourself in the SPLC. Well, cool. Now nobody gives a shit about the SPLC. Looks like you spent all that time for nothing. Right. Like, you're going to take control of a thing that nobody fucking likes anymore. It just, it drives me nuts, people. You know, there's one positive to I generally, I generally feel like the SPLC thing is generally positive in terms of how it can move the needle forward. As long as people spend two to three minutes thinking about it, and the people, and we talk to people who can be reached, not retards, but people who can be reached. There's no point in trying to convince retards online of anything. It's explaining the criticality of the SPLC's role, you know, in-zog essentially in moving the needle forward in terms of, you know, creating justifications for various things. You know, they were at Elohim City and their own operatives were basically running the op that led to the Oklahoma City bombing, right. There's, and the FBI was, you know, running things through there. Oh, wow, the FBI went after the SPLC. That's pretty comical. But the value in it is the proof retroactively, and as far as what they were actually doing, is our heads actually that need to roll actually rolling as related to this. No, not at all. But it's documented evidence as to what they actually are. And it isn't, of course, the retard explanation that we're seeing from, again, retards who are irrelevant, and the people who believe it are generally irrelevant people, you know, or, you know, particularly over 75, is the whole deal with, you know, just proving that this is the way that they operate and mapping it to now, right. So, so here, here, let me give an example. If you were online engaging in any of the politics associated with kind of this area in the past, I want to say since probably about 2000. Well, a lot of it goes back to just after 9/11, but certain aspects of it. It really didn't start ramping up until around 2012. But 10 years ago, definitely, if you were on Like if you were on GABA or something like that, you were constantly dealing with SPLC people, literally people who are branded like Michael E. Hayden and that Carlos loser and ship eggs like that, as well as people who are undercover agitators who are looking, basically looking to get information on people internally so that they could turn people to click links so that they could ID them, get their Google IDs by having them click through to documents and stuff like that and then being able to tie it back to GABA, for example. And so they've operated this way for a really long time. Yeah, they blew up whatever. And it isn't that they were manufacturing like quote unquote racism and in reality, it's like the Democrats, the Democrats, you have to manufacture racism just like the way that the KKK is a Democrat thing. We know that that's retarded, but the value of all this is in being able to prove that it's all an op and that what happens is it's basically illegal to organize as a white person in your own interests. Unless you do all the denials and you put your Earl Winson Sears or whatever her stupid name is, as your candidate, you have to constantly sell out or your under attack. And how are you under attack by law enforcement who and informants and NGOs and the five eyes intelligence organizations who will send people out on loan to your various NGOs. So you have German intelligence trying to run in these things paid for by the SPLC among others, which we know about. And they're trying to entrap you, trying to get you to commit a crime and trying to turn you or to find a retard in your organization who will just take money, but it's usually associated with entrapment and things of that nature so that they can steer your organizations so that, you know, Charlotte's fill, right? Charlotte's fill was a legitimate thing. People did not want the monuments to come down and they wanted to literally just be able to talk about it. Like all they ever wanted to do was be able to talk about, hey, this is what's going on and we don't want this to happen. Well, you know, what happens? The whole world moves to stop that from happening and try to turn it into a precipitating event that'll allow them to crush the right forever and blame it on, you know, quote unquote, fringe people. And so what they do is they take over these organizations to entrap people. It isn't that nobody is interested in, you know, speaking up for themselves. It isn't because we'll almost racist, so I want to join a racist organization. No, you want to be able to assert your rights and you can't do that. And so when you try to do that, they try to stop you. It really doesn't take that long to explain it to people and most people understand it. People have been around for 20, 30 years understand this. People have just started figuring it out can learn to understand this with very short conversations. So that's just me going through like, it's not as bad and we see these stupid narratives, but don't believe out there that many people actually believe this. The people that are putting this out there, are a tiny minority of retards who are repeating it or their page shills. - Well, I think it's me. - It's ominous. - Go ahead, Pete. - Well, I mean, I think there are people that are just absolutely deluded and still think that the system works. - That's fair. - That's fair. - Yeah. And those are the ones I'm trying to talk to. I know I don't do a really good job because I'm not very diplomatic, but I'm trying to talk to the people who still are holding onto this 250 year old civic religion that maybe we can get back to the Constitution one day or something like that. And we're gonna have mass deportations and the country's gonna be completely bright. Just white people and just Protestants and only Protestants from my denomination. It's like, guys, look, you have to deal with reality. This is why people get pissed off at Darrell Cooper. All right, Darrell Cooper has a bleeding heart for a lot of things and he's explained why. And I accept it. To me, Darrell understands the biggest problem that we have and that's important for me. But when you see Darrell talking about when you see Darrell talking about the like immigration and stuff like that and how sending out ice like they did in Minneapolis is just, it's a warrant. One of the reasons he's saying that is because that's not how you solve this problem. And he also doesn't think that this problem is going to be solved and he's probably right. I mean, we're going through it again, aren't we? Donald Trump in the White House has the House, has to send it and he basically went to work for the Jews. So who's going to be, who's going to do the deportations? Is Jady Van's going to do the deportations when he gets, when he gets there in 2008 and in 2028? He probably won't even be elected because he's in this administration. So who's going to do that? Who's how this is getting done? So it's like, you know, when people, you know, shit on Darrell Darrell is just like, look, I'm trying to figure out how to deal with this, with the reality of what it is. Not this whole like libertarian fantasy of living in Ang Capistan in your head that, you know, I phrase I coined. And where you're, you're like, you're living your life now and all of your decisions and everything that you think is being based upon the world you want to see and not how the world works, like how the world works right now. Sure you want to plan for the future and you'd like to see this and you'd like to see that. But I can fucking guarantee you the world you want that you're picturing in your head is not going to happen. It is not going to happen. Now, you may be able to set up your personal life in a way that you can live as free as you'd want. But if you're gonna, if you think you're going to look out at the world, the way it is right now and somehow by you believing in some kind of utopian dream that you're going to get it, or, you know, well, maybe if there weren't black pillars out there, we could will it into existence while we're just posting on Twitter. Okay, I think you need to wake up. I think you need to figure out, you know, you need to figure out your own life first. I mean, I think people have this idea that I'm like blackpilled, that like I live my life in a blackpilled way. No, I don't live my life in a blackpilled way at all. I like my life. I really like my life. I think politics as people who I know and that I trust and that I work with one that's to work is not going to happen. So why would I pretend that something is going to happen that isn't that I don't believe is going to happen just so that you feel good, just so that you don't feel blackpilled, just so that you can sit there and keep imagining that the world is going to be something that it's not going to be. I'm sorry, that's not who I am. You know, and if you thought that's who I was, you shouldn't have got on board. You know me, you hear the way I talk. You know my opinions. You know, I think that this is occupied, that this government is occupied and the only way it's not going to be occupied anymore is if it's going to have to fall apart. It's going to have to stop existing as it does so that because it was designed in a way that occupiers could occupy it and take over. And that is democracy and that needs to be destroyed. And that is the only way that this government, the way it is structured right now, can operate. So stop living in a fantasy world thinking that you're going to make it into something that it is, that it's not going to be. That's not blackpilling. That's just accepting reality. And if you think that's what you're doing, think that's blackpilling, then you're a polyanna faggot. I probably don't want to have anything to do with you. Yeah, literally none of the voting machines are real. So the system has to go. I think it'll go a lot faster than other people in our sphere, just because these things tend to cascade. Yes. Right. So if it starts going a little bit, it starts going a little bit faster, it starts going a little bit faster, it starts going faster still. And where are you going to be? Right. If you're doing the thing that Pete's pointing out, right, trying to will it into existence without having sorted yourself out, you're just as fucked as everyone else. Now somebody's got to come and sort you out. I'll do it. The immigration. Yeah, the immigration issue. Right. Darryl Cooper is also not asking to be the one setting up our immigration policy. He'll be the first to tell you he's a bit of a bleeding heart squishy when it comes to that issue. Right. That issue is going to sort itself out. Right. Of Asma Jorri, the people are going to leave because the government's going to have collapsed. And I know this is something that, oh, you're just basically saying that this impossible thing is going to happen. What? So the thing that's been around for the last 70 years, 80 years, because the government that we have now is not the government we had before World War II, like literally not even close, doesn't even resemble it. It's a different thing. You're literally fighting for the New Deal regime to keep the New Deal regime. Exactly. You're a very very very very. Yep. And I'm going to tell you that it's going to be around for forever. And that'll never collapse. Like really this little we have a what we have a welfare system that lets us pretend to vote. Like that's actually the thing that exists. So you think this fucking shitcho is going to be able to continue to pay all of its gifs while it's eroding rapidly. It's capital-based. Okay. Sure. And it's probably unfortunately for Darryl. You know, it cares about people deeply in lots of respects. It's and he probably will be the first to agree with me. And that it's not a good thing. That it will probably resolve itself violently as these things always do. And so the immigration issue is for us to sort out at the time in which we can sort it out. So in that way, I very much agree with Darryl. This government is not going to do it. They fucking straight up told you they're not going to do it. So when we kind of end, the regime kind of goes in two phases, I think, especially as far as it did in Germany where we've seen it elsewhere. First, we have to stop people from finding out the information. And they did that for about 10 years or so. And they became more and more and more and more frantic. But now that everybody knows the information, investing any more time, like once a critical mass of people know the information, any resources spent trying to stop people from learning that information is a waste. Because there's more people on the ground sharing it socially, like in person with one another through conversation, then aren't going to be able to learn about it. Even if you get kept everything, if you censored everything in television, in online, in podcasts, like you just took it all down. If literally the entire internet and everything went dark, the information was still spread almost as rapidly as it is now. Without you censoring anything. This is how exponential systems work. You've passed that point of criticality. So you're not going to spend any more time and resources there. You would have to immediately pivot into stopping people from organizing on that information. Which is what I think they're doing now. Because it's the only move that they can make. Not only are you not getting any results censoring, but anytime, any money or resources that you invest in censoring aren't going to do anything. So they're going to stop doing it. And that also means they're going to start doing something else. And the only thing that they can do is the only thing that they will do, which is stop people organizing on that information. All right, this is when things get a little bit more soft touch. This is actually the shortest period. The sensor information, the try and control the narrative period, that's a long period of time. In the scale of how fast these things are, in the scale of the lifetime of the regimes of the Jewish people, this bit is the much shorter bit by comparison. It's also the bit that's going to be a little bit scary, I think. Because if they're goal is just, if they have to move to stop you from organizing on information, right, we're talking about IRL things. And if permanently banning your account or suspending your account sucks in a digital sense, what comes next is going to suck in a physical sense. And I'd like to know what your guys' thoughts are about that. Because I think people are going to have to be a little bit brave. Like if there's any time that you're going to get a knock on the door or get politically persecuted, we're entering that phase of the game now. In my opinion, I'd love to hear what you guys think. Pete, I think a lot of people think that by voting for a republic and in JD Vance, getting elected or something like that, that's going to protect them from that. Where, I mean, all you see is like, do I believe Jewish power is collapsing? Sure, is it going to collapse tomorrow? No. So they're going to go hard. And I don't know that JD Vance is going to stand in their way. People have this idea that I don't even think he's going to be able to get elected, considering just how much of a disaster this administration is. Considering taking into consideration Stormy and Jay's GOP Samson option, I mean, I don't know that it could be any clearer that they're destroying the GOP, or at least if they're not destroying the GOP, which I don't think they can, they're destroying the GOP to the point where the like the Romney Bush crew can come back in. And I'm not saying that Mitt Romney or a Bush was going to come back in. I'm not, but they need to stop it from being a vector for nationalism to your point. Right. So so they you have somebody who is in that camp, you know, I mean Marco Rubio is in that camp. Sorry. These you have a bunch of these people who are still loyal to that worldview. And who are still bought by that worldview, you know, maybe even, you know, blackmailed by that worldview. And I think that is the goal is to get those people back in power. And you know, it's going to come around in 2028. And I'm not going to make any predictions because my predictions always come wrong or always wrong. But if it is one of those people, you're going, you know, there are people listening to this who are going to go to the ballot box and go, hey, at least it's better than the Democrat and hit the lever for the reput, you know, for the Zionist for the, you know, for the person who's owned by Jews. Is there a chance the left, the Democrat would be owned by Jew? Sure. Yeah. Okay. But it always seems like. I mean, but when has the anti-Semitism, the crackdown on anti-Semitism happened more under the last couple of years of Biden after after October 7th or under Trump? When has it been more obvious that Washington DC is owned by is owned by Jews under Trump? So you have to look at these things. Yeah. And I'm not like I'm saying. I'm not saying vote vote for go vote for a Democrat or go vote for a Republican in 2028. Do whatever the fuck you want. But don't pull that. You know, don't push that button or touch that screen or whatever the fuck you do it. Where where you live, thinking that you're that like this is a like a protest vote or that or this is a vote that's going to like protect you from like the war, you know, oh, there's there's bad and there's worse. I don't think there's bad and worse anymore. I think there's bad and bad or worse and worse. And I mean, I just think that's coming. Oh, who's gonna be the one who's gonna, who's gonna crack down on me because of my beliefs? I don't know. I'm thinking both sides. You know what I mean? - Yeah, it's gonna be worse than it was before because they're more fucking frantic than they are before. They're more exposed than they've ever been before. The state of Israel is more imperiled than it's ever been before. So the stakes are increasing for them. Do you think they're not gonna make the stakes increase for you? - Yeah. - 100%, man. - Oh, okay. Go into the voting booth fine. If you think that you have to, right, if you think that actually does anything, right? Do we get it? Did we get the save act? Do we have any way of even policing or voting machines? Who owns the voting machines? All right, like none of these questions are answered. The only questions that people demand are, are you voting for our guy or the other guy? Are you gonna vote for the Democrats? Like, do our votes count? Our votes counted correctly. Like, - You can't even get a legitimate poll. People like Mark Mitchell have been run out of the industry. You get polls like, oh, 100% of people who support Donald Trump support the war. Okay. - You're giving the system legitimacy. I guess it's the last credit, it's the last legit, it's the last credibility of fucking that they have is everyone believing that they have a stake in it. And that fucking ritual is how they do it. - What the way they do it is come out and say it. - It's partly the ritual and it's also partly, hey, if you don't vote for the Republican, the Democrats gonna be 10 times worse. If you don't vote for the Democrat, the Republic, if you don't vote for the administration, the Democrat, the Democrats gonna have is gonna institute Marxism. If you don't vote for the Republic, if you don't vote for the Democrat, the Republicans gonna institute fascism. Everyone's gonna do a fascism or a Marxism, depending on how you vote. I fucking wish the Republican would institute a fucking fascism. - Yeah. - But geez, I mean, that's me to vote. But that's not happening. I mean, the only thing I care about the 2028 election is I wanna see if somebody on one of the sides runs staunchly anti-Israel anti-Zionist. - Yeah. - That's all I'm interested in. And I'm not even interested in them winning because I don't know that I would trust that they were. I would just wanna see the reaction by the people. That's all I care about. This is the thing is that we're so fucking removed from even having any hope. 'Cause honestly, just like you said about like, you just wanna see, that was the big thing with Trump. People were just, people were skeptical the entire time. They voted for Trump, but they were skeptical. And I think that's what he hasn't figured out. Right, like how fast his support basically just disappeared when he started basically backtracking on everything? I think he has the opinion that, oh well, now the people believed in me just like last time. Well, like in between your last presidency and this one, people have had COVID and they all watched 2020 happen. They watched the rioting in the streets. They watched the fucking experts tell them like, COVID wants you to support George Floyd. And if you support George Floyd, it won't infect you. They watched the election get stolen. There was like a, before the election, there was a complete disillusionment, a disillusionment with government entirely. And really, I would say in most people's minds, the voting for Donald Trump that happened in 2024 was a skeptic vote. Like, okay, sure, like I'll vote for you, but I don't really think you can do anything or I would like to see you do something. I think people are skeptical now. How skeptical are they gonna be after the last guy that they rolled the dice on? Basically turned around and did everything that he said he wouldn't do. Like how do you get people to trust the system anymore? Like 2020 hurt the credibility of the system. COVID hurt the credibility of the system. Now when they do a protest vote, now that doesn't work either. Right, it's just like Donald Trump trying to manipulate the oil markets. It worked at first. Then it started working less and now it doesn't work at all 'cause people don't believe him. I don't know, man, Martin Armstrong that has been predicting since the '80s and whoever's listening to this and doesn't know who that is, then just completely disregard this, this will have no wait for you. But Martin Armstrong's been predicting since the '80s that 2020 is the last US election. - Based. - Yeah, whether that means like 2032 doesn't happen or that 2028 kicks it off. - Yeah. - I don't know what it means and he doesn't know what it means. And it sounded really, really crazy in 2010 when I first heard it. It sounded crazy in fucking 2019. Like seven years ago, that sounded insane to me. It doesn't seem so insane now. And what I can do is. - If three years ago, if four years ago, someone would have told you that like random strangers on this street were trying to jpeel you, you would have been like, get the fuck out of here. - Yeah, well not me, because I was gacking your ears off about Roger's theorem. - Yeah, true. - Yeah, four years ago. Before, before October 7th. - Yep, 100%. No one would believe where we were even, where we are today, nobody would even believe it a year ago. To where like random strangers are coming up to you on basically on the street, nearest makes no difference. And not trying to anti-zionist pill you, but trying to straight up jpeel you. Like that's the biggest, I think, that's the biggest change that I've noticed. Is before it was like, yeah, well, you know, Israel's not really our friend, right? And now it's like, you know, like, Jews kill babies and like drain their blood, right? Like whether or not that's true or not, it likely is. The fact that that's what the normies are trying to fucking red pill you on is a drastic difference. Because that means the normies have noticed race. - Yep. - And I think that's the biggest difference between 20, even 2024 election and now. Is the awareness of race. And it's the fucking Jews funny enough that's done it. Because you can't notice the fucking Jews as other without going, oh, well, wait a second. Why do they hate just white people so much? Like, I don't know if that's been your perception, but like every time a normie's kind of like trying to jpeel me, which happens quite a bit. And I, and I tilt it towards race. Like, yeah, like, what do they have against us? What do they have? It's like they hate white people. They're like, yeah, they fucking hate white people. - Yeah, it's obvious. And then you can even get them to, if you push them into how Jews do the countershy, hard where they try to, they try to get you to hate. It's like, oh, you know, it's really the Muslims. It's them, you know, look, we're surrounded by Muslim. Israel's a small country surrounded by Muslims. There's, there's 1.5 billion. Can't Israel have its own country? Muslims have all these countries. There's 1.5 billion Muslims. How many Jews are there? Yeah, there's going to be more fucking Muslim countries and there are Jews that's fucking, that's basically geography. So shut the fuck up with that argument. It doesn't work on me. But they try to get you to hate Muslims. And it's like, oh, well, look, Muslims are, Muslims are just natural terrors. All they want to do is kill Jews. Okay, why? If that's true, why? And no one wants to answer those fucking, no one wants to either ask that question or answer the question. It's like, I mean, I'm, I'm sorry for knowing my history. I'm sorry. You know, I experienced a guy I was at a party friend of mine's house did not want to rock the boat. But this fucking Jew told me straight to my face that Palestinians don't exist. That land was empty before Jews started going there. And I'm like, you know, I have a fucking gun, right? You have to assume I have a fucking gun on me. That's great. I just, I mean, these people, how do you fucking deal with people like that? They basically, they are exterminationists. Elunatics, they're, they are exterminationists. They want to kill everyone who's not them. And then as I forget, I think it was Michael Collins, Piper and Slime. Yeah. But Michael Collins, Piper pointed out, he said, I mean, even if the Jews killed every, like every non-Jew, they just kill each other after that. Because I mean, that's how, that's their attitude. I mean, and think about it. I mean, if you have, if you have two, that was the real punishment of the concentration camps. We forced them to only interact with one another. If you have 2000 years of a, you know, I mean, assuming that this bloodline is 2000 years old, let's, let's assume the cause of our theory doesn't exist. That this is one continuous bloodline. But you imagine 2000 years are not being able to get ready, to, to get rid of your sins, to expiate your sins. That that builds up for 2000 years. And you, and you deny logos and you killed Christ and you like burn down 40,000 churches in Russia and killed, you know, tens, you know, probably 30 of 40 million Christians. And you have a war going on right now that you orchestrated where Christians are killing Christians. How are you not cursed? I mean, and I mean, that's, I'm, I'm choosing the word cursed. And that's not the word I want to use. It's just a word that, you know, you can use in public. How are you not the most cursed? It's remarkable to me. I don't understand how people see, this is the difference. The difference is is that I see organized jewelry as civilization, civilization, civilization, civilization destroying force. There are people that I know that just see them as more wealthy samalis, just another interest group that's taking advantage of us. Well, you don't know your fucking history like I do. Yep. You cannot understand the last 3500 years of history, but you cannot understand the last 2000 years of European history until you understand the JQ. The two, the 2000 years of Christendom. You do not understand it at all until you sit down and I, I'm not trying to blow my own horn. I'm not trying to promote my own shit. 124 episodes. Go listen to it. Go, go watch it. It's on rumble. It's on Odyssey. All 124 episodes. I think a 124 will drop on Saturday. Alexander Solcenees and pretty sure he was married to a Jewish woman wrote about what they did in Russia. Go tell me if you do not see the parallels, I, you're, you're lost and you need to get out of the way. You're not, you know, as, you know, Thomas says, you're just, you're not in the game. It. I'm very happy that a lot of our cultural leaders, like guys like Tucker and just a lot of people I bump into on the street that would have otherwise been like atheoid, you know, interactions. Have you guys also noticed like along with the J Pilling, people are also trying to like spiritual pill you or metaphysically pill you. Right. Like the norm you realize is somehow they have no way of like putting into words. They can contextualize it. Some will contextualize it, you know, by just kind of like mimicking, you know, Tucker and and his framing. But I'm getting the sense that people are starting to recognize that there are metaphysical forces at play. Yes. Very much so. Yeah, you too. They take a variety, it takes a variety of forms. Having a lot of people hit me up with like astrology and numerology stuff also, like out of out of and there's one of the challenges that I have is that like, yes, people believe in it. Yes, I think that there are some influences like, you know, on certain kinds of things. And yes, our enemies believe deeply in these things. And so being able to draw these parallels to understand, you know, what's making it happen could be people doing it, you know, along these timings. Yes, absolutely. We certainly know that they were all excited about, you know, pure human, some alignment this time, like three planted alignment, etc. But in general, yes, people are very much. I've had more guys come to me and be like, I realized that evil is real and so God is real. Like I've heard that more people than ever in my entire life in the past year. Yep. Same. You're going to have to wild. And it's accelerating. I don't know if this is the place, it's time to place for it. But if you want me to break down astrology, like astrology, yeah, isn't what people think it is. Right. And the reason why it's it's predictive in broad broad ways, isn't for the reasons that people think it is. Right. In the same way that like thinking a clock is, you know, predictive. But not realizing that a clock is just measuring time. Right. So when people of ancient times looked at the stars, that was the clock that they had access to. Right. Like all of the assigning, you know, deities to this or that or whatever. Right. That's backfilling. Right. That's retconning to try and help them make sense of why. The clock in the sky was, you know, telling them things. Right. So time has a geometry like every other spatial dimension that means it has curves, that means it has shapes, that means it has angles and lines. Right. It has a geometry. And what that clock in the sky allowed them to do was recognize the patterns in the shape of that geometry. They didn't need to know why things were happening. Right. But God from creation encoded patterns in all of the dimensions. We see them in our spatial dimensions. Right. We see the fractal patterns that emerge in every bit of living life, every bit of non-living life. Right. A rock structure is just as fractal as a leaf's structure. These are both fractal forms of geometry. Right. They are the geometry of the spatial dimension. And there is a fractal geometry to our temporal dimension. And the only thing that they had to measure the geometry of time. Right. The flows and lines in it were the planets. Because it operates, I don't know if anyone's noticed this or not, time as long is big. It's a very long thing. And human beings only represent in our life a very short period. So the only thing that they had that was big enough and long enough was the planets and the stars. Right. But if you give a bitch fucking chicken bones, you'll turn it into divination. Sorry, ladies, it's just something that you do. Right. You guys try and turn everything into fortune telling no matter what it is. But that's why astrology is predictive in some capacities. And that's what it's usually very indicative when you look at it retroactively. Right. Like when you when you back test it, right, because it's measuring the shapes of time. And funny enough, Pete, I share the only thing that does scare me is about like a certain personality and personal components. I shared this with Pete. Carl, I don't think I can share it to you, but a friend of mine put in my birth chart into a an astrology AI and basically made it freak out in a way that this person who does this frequently has never seen before. And it's literally in this printout or like in the in the thing is telling me I need to stay away from nationalism. And that areas. Oh, brawl. I'll share it with you. It's really funny. It's basically astrology Hitler. But yeah, so it is it is something that people are going to pick up on. It's the same thing that they're picking up on in like with men like like I I'm seeing evil places. like I can't describe these events or these behaviors any other way. And I think that at the same time as racial consciousness is starting to emerge against white people in a big way. This is really, really good. And like Pete, I don't know how anyone could think that you're Blackpilt because you have been talking about this very thing for fucking years. Like the desired end state where we need to go that he's Pete's been saying we need to go here for forever. We are almost to that point and people think that Pete is Blackpilling. Well, because when we get to that point, we're going to have to do something. We're going to have to work. And that's what people don't want. People do not want to work. People do not want to grow their own food. People do not want to go haul frigging soil and dig things up and build beds and do all sorts of things like that. People don't want to hear that that's going to be that may be a part of the future and it may be a big part of the future. They don't even know the neighbor. Let alone helping build a shed or a barn. Yeah. People don't want to they don't want to know that there's pain coming, but there's pain coming. And you're just going to have to deal with that. You're fucking ancestors dealt with that. I mean, they went 150 years ago. Think about what dent, like dental. I've had dental surgery. I probably have like five or six dental surgeries. I can't imagine what it was like 150 years ago for like dental surgery. If you had a fucking toothache, yeah, I had surgery last year for kidney stones. You imagine being in the middle ages and you get that pain kicks in. What do you do? Your ancestors lived through this shit and now you're just so fucking, you're so much of a pussy. You're like you're scared that you might actually have to like grow food or get a couple chickens or you might have to or God forbid you might leave the house and go organize with a bunch of people and figure out exactly how you're going to get through some hard times. I mean, God forbid you would do that. I mean, because I mean, you're not post what you mean I can't I'm not going to change this by posting on Twitter. Dude, I'm one tweet away from changing the world. I'm one tweet away from defeating my enemies. Pete, not only are we going to go through the go through pain, we deserve every bit of the suffering we are going to go through. That's right. It has to happen. It is right for it to happen. Like people are going to cry about boomers. Like, yeah, you want to know what? We are paying for the sins of our fathers. Right. But God will be paid what he is owed. Someone's going to pay. And that's the only way we're going to enjoy any of his blessing ever again is if we pay the fuck up. So yes, the boomers skirted on the bill and left us with the debt. But it's a debt that's owed and it's going to have to get paid and we'll come out better for it. Like we will we need to pay what we have like the debt that has accrued for the last hundred years. And that is the only way we're ever going to enjoy God's favoritism again because we had it. And that's going to take fucking pain. Pete is right. Can I ask you something? Fellows. Yeah, sure. Have you have you ever felt anything that felt genuinely rewarding that was genuinely satisfying that didn't require a shitload of pain which drove growth, which drove development, which drove humility, which drove appreciation. Like every it's it's nice one thing. Yeah, one thing I can think of. And that's charity. Just like genuine genuine. I am going to go out of my way and I am going to take care of, you know, let's say a very big in my most recent instance. I spent a large amount of money paying for an unexpected expensive person. I don't know tangentially, but it was just very sad. And I got more happiness out of that. Then I've gotten from buying anything and it lasted a really long time. If I buy like a new car or like a new thing, like I'm happy about it for like a day. A new watch, like I'm happy about it for a day, maybe. But when I pay for something like that, like it made me smile for like a fucking week, man. Yeah. But that's the only thing I can think of. I think that I would say it's safe to say that is the only thing that will make you happy outside of what you're describing Carl. Yeah. Because I think about all the stuff that I thought I wanted when I was a young shithead and like, I didn't deserve any of it. Like it took so much. For me to actually grow and develop as a person to be able to appreciate a thing. To get into your point, Stormy, like someone gives you something for free and it's just like something that makes your life easier. Like it's you don't really appreciate it. I mean, I'm not saying that if someone gives you charity, people who receive charity don't appreciate it. There's some that don't. But in general, like if something is going to come from me, the only thing that that is good long-term is stuff that is that is suffering and is hard and is difficult. You know, it's only you're proud of. It's the only thing you're proud of. Yeah. Other than that, that was a lot of work and that was hard. Hard a lot, a lot, a lot of sacrifice. That's how you guys are joining that journey. Yeah. Yeah. Let's tell you guys a story when we're off there. Yeah. You got to like, oh, I'd talk about stuff like that publicly. Yeah. Yeah. It's the easiest thing we can do too. I just got done rattling off about how our young guys are hyper-susceptive. Both the people leveraging respectability against them, nefariously or dishonestly. You know, it's a great way to overcome that and make yourself immune from that. And also give yourself a huge leg up in the world. It's doing exactly what Carl's talking about right now. Might like even something as dumb as like building a barn. Building a stone wall. Building a greenhouse. These are things that don't cost any money and are very hard to do. I would recommend building a stone wall and a barn and learning timber framing and stone construction back to back. It doesn't have to like, the one thing I can say about having the success that I've had, I guess like financially or whatever, is that I got to buy all the things that I thought as a young man would make me happy. And none of it did. So I was immunized from that. I was still fucking miserable. Like you can be suicidal with a lot of money. I hate to hate to hate to break it to you. But all of the things that you think you want. Unless they're like real things like we're talking about, they will mean nothing to you. You work all this time and you'll save all this money and you'll buy this thing that you're super excited about. And in two days, it'll be as if it never happened. And all that time and all that work and saving is gone. You saved it up to buy a thing that you were really excited about. You thought was going to make you very happy. And two days later, it's gone. Yeah. It doesn't make you happy. at all. And that's the biggest trick of it. It really is. I've seen I've seen to notice people a lot less materialistic, which is really good. I just regular people and like times haven't even really gotten that tough yet. I think the pursuit, basically opting out of the material consumerism. If a person has done that, they're ready to hear what we have to say. And they may not even consciously know that they're doing it. I notice this in myself. I notice it in others that I see. The vacations, the material things just aren't exciting people anymore. I don't know if you guys have seen that. I don't see any of them anymore. Outside of real estate, like people trying to buy nice houses, usually with a bit of security in mind or some land. Outside of that, I'm not seeing any of it. I would love to see what the luxury car sales have been. I'd love to see what the entry-level Rolexes are doing. I'd imagine they're not very good. It's funny. I know all these, especially retirees who have been buying cars like crazy. It's almost like it makes them miserable. It's really strange. But they're like, I'm like, I drive a 14-year-old car that I love. It just works for me. It's good enough. It's fast enough. It's responsive enough. It's absolutely wild to me. These are guys that are buying. I can completely understand because you just describe my life right now. Too many cars and most of them make me miserable. They buy a brand new car that costs a ton of money. They're just like, "Oh, one of the guys, I was like, "How's your car?" And he's like, "I took it back." I was like, "What are you talking about? You take it back." Was there like a penalty or anything associated with it? Yeah, it was fine. It just wasn't worth it. I didn't like it. Too many screens. Something was annoying about it. It wasn't instinctive. It cost too much. I hate the payment. I'd rather pay X dollars to get out of it. You know the stormy understands the South Florida mentality when it comes to status purchases. Yes. I remember back in the late '80s. I was working in a gas station right at a high school and everything, like in between that and college. This guy pulls in with a truck, a flat bed, and there's a brand new Corvette on it. I was like, "Oh, what's wrong with that?" He's like, "Oh, nothing. Nothing. I just bought it." I think. I'm like, "Really, man? Oh, that's cool. That's cool." He's like, "Yeah." He wasn't happy about it. You would think you just bought this new vet and everything. You'd be ecstatic. You'd be excited. You'd be like, "I can't wait to get home." He wasn't happy about it. Yeah. I saw a lot of that. Being in South Florida, you get to experience a lot of people who have money. And even old money. But South Florida is also a lot of new money. They're driving around and it's like, "Oh, man, nice car. Remember this guy had an Excalibur?" I've always liked the Excalibur because I love the classics things like that. I was like, "Man, that's really nice and everything. You can't get them to smile and talk about it." They're excited about it. It's a fucking burden. It's a burden to them. I think I've seen a lot of people just pairing down. My truck's 30 years old. My car's 14 years old. I've just seen a lot of people just pairing down. Even houses. They're looking to sell their big house and get something smaller, things like that. And just have something reliable. It's almost like people know something's coming. But that's going to be area-specific too. I live around a lot of people who, most of the people I live around are very down to earth. They're not chasing, waiting for the new generation of Rolex to come out or waiting for the new F-150 king rash that they're going to spend 110 grand on. Nobody around here, nobody I know that I hang out with doeset. When you meet people like that, it's like they burden themselves by having that thing. If they get rid of it, you notice like an attitude change. You notice it. It's like, "Oh, that's like a weight off of my back." I mean, I haven't had a car payment in well over a decade. And people don't realize just how much of a burden a car payment is. Or mortgage is bad enough, but that's the one thing that you can make an argument that it's like, "Look, I'm not going to be able to come up with 3,400 grand." But once they get out from under that, if you know someone who's paid off their mortgage, I mean, they're walking different. People don't. You just have to, there used to be parties for that. Oh, yeah. The mortgage book burning party is. It is a debt. I mean, and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. I mean, this, people do not realize what a spiritual burden that is that they're taking on. And I encourage people to buy land. But you can find a lot of land with a humble house on it that is well built, maybe a hundred years old, but very well built. We'll survive a hurricane. We'll survive a tornado or a hurricane. People have just been, their minds have become so judyized by, "Hey, I got to go into debt if I'm not in debt." You know, it's like, "Oh, no, no, no." I mean, now when it comes to tangible, when it comes to the things you need to live, no, you want to be able to. You want to be able to go, yeah, I mean, all I have to do is take care of the upkeep on this. And when you know that that's all you have to do and you do have to pay for the upkeep on something, you treat it better too. So there's more responsibility there. And that's a lot of what we're talking about is just responsibility. You have to take responsibility for yourself. No one is coming to save you. You're not going to vote your way out of this. So when I say that, people are like, "Oh, you're calling for revolution." I'm like, "No, just you're not going to vote your way out of this." So you're going to have to find another way to deal with it. I do not condone violence, because I mean, initiating violence against what most people see them as a legitimate authority, you're retarded. I do not tell people to commit, you know, to commit crimes. But you're not going to vote your way out of this. So you're going to have to figure something out. And, you know, it seems like that people just don't want to do that. They just want to live. And I'll tell you honestly, a lot of people who say that I'm Blackpilled. I know that these are people who, you know, aren't married, don't have the job for the degree that they have. And I know it's just projection. But I want what's best for you. And what's best for you is get together with me and let's talk about a way forward. And, you know, forget about, oh, if we just get the right person in office, sure, maybe if you get your buddy elected sheriff and mayor of the town, you work towards getting him into the governor's office, maybe, you know, to get through some patronage down your way and take care of you and everything. But I mean, Washington, DC, Tel Aviv on the Potomac. Come on, guys. Come on. I'm here for you, man. I'm here for anyone listening to this. All you tell me people, people contact me all the time to tell me their problems. And I try to help as much as possible. A lot of times I can't help because, you know, it's just, it's out of my hands. I, you know, I can as much as I might want to help, I might contact somebody else who might be able to help. They may not want to help. And, you know, that's really out of my hands, but I will, I will sit with you. I will cry with you. I will do anything you, you know, you need, you know, what makes what gets you through it. But we're all going to have your You're gonna have to do this on your own. You're gonna have to do this, and you're not gonna be able to do it on your own. So you're just gonna have to get with other people, and that means leaving the house, and that means putting down the fucking phone. - Yep. Funny you say that. I just got rid of the only car that I had a payment on the other day. And like, I actually noticed it. Like, I legit feel like I've had, you got rid of the eight cars. - Yeah, I did. - Oh wow. - I bought a land cruiser in cash. (laughing) - Hell yeah. - It's a big one. Yeah, it is a new, whatever like the Alex, - Oh, the five seven. - The land crusher. - Yeah, the prettier land cruiser. Yeah, I just was like, it was just bugging me. And you do feel better about it, immediately. And I found that Tom talks about Evela a lot. Evela was the guy that really hammered home for me. Like, you have to make yourself a spiritual fortress. Like an emotional fortress. Like, you need to basically be like in a castle in your own mind. Like, nothing, it doesn't matter. (clears throat) Well, what the news says, it doesn't matter. Who gets elected? Like, none of that matters. None of that should alter your inner state. None of it should even raise your blood pressure. One tick. Like, in order to be ready for what comes next, you need to be immune to all this stuff. And there are certain material things that are the, that can, that will be, that would pull you out of this state. Right? Like, material needs for, you know, safety and sustenance. But if you do the things that Pete's talking about, you will be able to be in a state physically to get where Eveless says you need to be mentally. Right? Like, you need to be unfuck withable. And that's the type, like, people always, like you're talking about, like people think that they're just gonna will something, like will change to happen. Your will doesn't mean anything. In the state that you're in. Right? Like, you can't even stop scrolling or stop the timeline for making you feel different things. Like, you're not in control of your emotions. The phone is the events that are happening in Washington are, the events that are happening in Iran are, like, that is controlling your emotions. What are you thinking about? Well, you're thinking about, what's happening in Washington? What's happening in Iran or what's happening about this election or what this crazy leftoid is doing? You don't have any willpower. I mean, literally, not willpower, like, oh, I'm gonna decide I'm not gonna eat any sugar. I'm not gonna pick up a cigarette. That's not willpower. That's habit. Like actual force of will. Requires sovereignty in your mind. The person that has sovereignty in his mind, that person can will things to happen. Because he gets to use 100% of his brain. What is he thinking about? Whatever he wants to think about. Nothing can distract him. Nothing can alter his emotional state. No intrusive thoughts are getting in. Nothing is distracting him. People can't make it five minutes. Holding a single thought in their head. And nothing else. Like if you do that, you'll have actual power. You will be able to will things into existence. If there's enough of you, but like getting to that state requires doing what Pete's talking about anyways. Right? You're already removing yourself from the system anyways. And so in men doing what it takes to be the type of person that Julius Evely is describing, will give you the situation that Pete is describing. You will have a political revolution when there is a large enough number of men that are worthy enough for that to happen. Right? Like you don't get to change your political situation, your cultural situation by remaining the same. If you are not a different person, a better person, a sovereign person, then how do you think that any of those things are going to happen around you on a broader scale? If you can't even do them internally in your own life, you want the United States to be sovereign? Can you get yourself to be sovereign? Right? You want to exert your will politically? Can you exert your will anywhere else in your life? Do you have control over anything in your life? And I think for a large amount of people, the answer is going to be no. Right? Like a person that lives, I mean, Pete, the amount of stuff you were to, like the amount your garden pulls down is insane. Like he doesn't have to worry about food. He just has to upkeep his house. And God literally gives him and his neighbors everything they need to survive. Right? Like you were telling me, I don't want to put you on blast too much, but all of your meat needs and dairy needs are within like a mile of your house. Your garden is putting out a crazy amount of food. Like you have a complete setup. We still have food in the chest freezer from last year. And this year we're going to have to get another chest freezer, which is nice. I'm getting another chest freezer this year. What a coincidence. It's off. If you're in a position where your garden is producing literally hundreds of pounds of things, and your neighbors have thousands of livestock and you have relationships with them. And your house isn't like a debt burden that forces you to go be in attention or a labor slave somewhere else. Like you now have the preconditions where you can be mentally and spiritually sovereign. Oh, there's no life. You don't have your shit together. No, because you don't give a shit. What's happening in DC? What's not like I don't care. I allow nothing to affect me here within this space. Like nothing. It's like a fortress. You know, bothers that person. Nothing. Unless he decides that it's it is going to occupy his attention. But people can't even decide for themselves what to occupy their attention with. Right. The timeline tells them the algorithm tells them the president tells them the Jews basically tell them. They tell them what to think about. They tell them what's important. What needs to be talked about right this minute? You can't focus any academic agent actually was the one that pointed this out. Like if you're getting mad, you're losing. All right, because the regime will just throw up literal rage fuel. And now it controls what you're thinking about. Like you don't ever get to tunnel down on like I'm going to do this fucking thing. Like we are all going to work together to achieve this fucking objective. Because the regime moves the current thing. And it controls by moving the current thing about what we're outraged about. Everyone's attention shifts with it. Everyone is forced to react to the new stimulus. So you don't ever get to sit down and just obsess about something till it's done. You don't get to sink your teeth into anything. Because it's constantly moving. You're constantly getting basically swatted at by stimuli. I think that's a good place to leave it, boys. Sounds good to me. I gotta go get some stuff done. All right, boys. It's been fun. Till next time. Don't disappear. I want to tell you something. All right. Yes, please. You got it. All right. All right. All right.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The speakers express exhaustion and criticism regarding U.S. discussions of military action against Iran, labeling the administration's approach indefensible and lacking strategic framework.
  2. They argue that "regime change" is a delusional fantasy, claiming unprovoked military assault never results in a population supporting its attackers.
  3. The discussion critiques the U.S. military structure as obsolete, comparing it to a scaled-down duplicate of a bygone era, and questions the feasibility of large-scale interstate war in the modern globalized world.
  4. They criticize Trump's behavior and social media presence, comparing it to historical figures with diminished capacity, and dismiss his supporters as irrelevant, low-IQ "mutants" or "theater kids."
  5. The speakers advocate for a more nuanced, decentralized approach to foreign policy, such as using private military contractors and propaganda, rather than maintaining outdated conventional forces.

Summary:

S. foreign policy, particularly regarding Iran and the broader military establishment. Speakers argue that the Trump administration's approach to Iran is strategically bankrupt and based on delusional fantasies of "regime change," which they dismiss as impossible through military force.

S. military's structure as an obsolete relic of the 20th century, unsuitable for modern globalized realities. The speakers also mock Trump's social media activity and his supporters, labeling them as irrelevant and lacking genuine understanding.

They advocate for a smarter, more decentralized strategy using private contractors and propaganda, rather than conventional warfare. Throughout, the conversation is interspersed with repeated, seemingly unrelated promotions for the *Irish Independent* newspaper, which emphasize community stories and local news. S.

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The speaker argues the administration's Iran policy is indefensible, lacking a strategic framework or plausible military mission, and that regime change is a delusional fantasy.

They claim regime change is a coined term with no real meaning, akin to the 'Easter Bunny,' and that unprovoked military assaults never lead to local populations supporting the attacker's government.

They believe the US military is decades obsolete, structured for 20th-century warfare that is an outlier, and that it cannot sustain itself against modern reality.

They argue World War II is an outlier, and that expecting similar large-scale conventional wars today is like expecting the British to attack with sailboats and muskets from 1812.

They suggest Trump's handlers should restrict his social media to prevent him from making a fool of himself, comparing it to Woodrow Wilson's concealed stroke.

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