Episode 3: Depression and Mental Hygiene Techniques

Welcome to Mental hygiene, a space to care for the mind like we care for the body, daily, gently and with love. Posted by Yogicaru and Susan Hoo, this podcast brings ancient Yogic wisdom into modern life, offering practical tools to cleanse the mental clutter, restore inner stillness, and reconnect with your true self. Take a breath, you're exactly where you need to be. Welcome to Mental hygiene. Welcome everyone to the Mental hygiene podcast. This is Yogicaru and I'm with my good friend Brenda. Hello, Brenda. Hi everyone, so happy to be here with my teacher Yogicaru again today. And today we're talking about topic that's very close to many of our hearts. We're talking about depression. What is depression? What are some of the tools of mental hygiene that we can use to counter that emotion and navigate through it? So Yogicaru, do you want to maybe start by sharing a little bit about what's your understanding of depression from a more Vedic perspective? So the word depression, from the recent point of view is we understand that there are three modes of nature that governs every centimeter of this universe. The mode of satvagon or the mode of nature and the mode of goodness. Everything is positive, right, happy. Then the mode of rajas, passion, it's that mode of nature which allows us to move to do things to create to build to drive and where you see movement, motion, that's rajas, the mode of. So we need the mode of goodness, satvagon, we need the mode of passion, rajagun and then there is the mode of tamagun which is the mode of darkness. And in this mode is where the mode of inertia, where we feel we don't want to do anything, we feel uninspired. And the mode of inertia is needed, right. We put the physical body to sleep every night, eat the mode of tamas for our reasons for the body can rejuvenate itself. But when you wake up, you don't want to stay in tamagun. So an emotion like depression then is when you wake up, you still bring the sleep, that mode of inertia into our daily life and we don't feel inspired to do anything. It just pervades your whole consciousness, you don't, you feel hopeless, you feel. Pathargic, you feel uninspired, you feel like low self esteem. So depression acts upon the minds of us when we're in the mode of tamagun, the mode of inertia. So yes. And we know these three modes of nature are always competing with each other to overcome the consciousness of the minds, of the minds and consciousness of every individual. So we have to consciously snap into the mode of fashion to get out of the mode of inertia and drive ourselves. And then when we're moving, then we have to also make another effort to go into the mode of goodness. But we know that the wishes of the past understood whenever we enter the mode of depression, we were covered by the mode of tamagun or that cloud in the nature that exhausts don't want to do anything and feel uninspired. Yeah. And I think probably most of us probably have all been experiencing that. It's some of us might be a short term of depression, some of us might be off something, just something that's been so heavy on our minds, we carry around for a very long period of time. And every single one of us, because we live in this world inevitably, those three modes of nature, they're constantly pulling us. They're constantly governing the way that we act, the way we eat, the way that we sleep even. And even the most elevated souls, they experience those as well. But how do we use the tools that the ancient wishes that they use to pacify the mind, to navigate those times of challenge? I think that can be so powerful for all of our listeners. Yes, yes. And you mentioned a good point, that even the elevated souls and the rich culture, the experience, emotion like depression. When Krishna was on the planet 5,000 years ago, he speaking to Arjun, he says, "I choose you to speak the Bhagavad Gita to Arjun because you are my dear friend and the both." So Arjun is not just an ordinary person, he's the leader of the military. Simultaneously, he was one of the most advanced devotees or bhakta, someone who had so much devotion to God. And yet, he fell in depression on the battle shield of Kuru, etc. When he asked Krishna, "Please show me who am I supposed to fight against?" And he saw his relatives, cousins, friends, teachers. Even Arjun went into depression. He didn't want to fight. He knew he had put his bow, fell from his hand, he was trembling, he was shaking. He was like, "He forgot who he was. He forgot his nature." And so in that depressed state, he turned to Krishna. I don't want you to be my friend anymore, I want you to be my spiritual guide, my teacher. So advanced souls, when you meet someone who's very evolved spiritually, it's not that they don't go through depression. They go through moments in life when the pressure covers them, but they have learned techniques which we are going to share today. They have techniques how they overcame their depression. They left those same techniques for us, so we have those techniques to go through how we overcome our depression when we go through it as well. Yeah, that's so beautiful and so encouraging. Because sometimes I feel like when we are in those states, I feel in the press, we feel like that's going to last forever. And there's no hope for me. And then the more we think that, the more the mode of time is poses and the more and more we go into that mode of darkness. And it's good to know that even the most elevated soul on a planet still go through those, but we have their tools, the mental hygiene tools that we can use to come back from that state, so that we can slowly elevate ourselves from that mode of super heaviness, using a little bit of passion to come back and hopefully eventually reach that state where everything is at peace, we find that joy in life again. Yes, yes. But are some of the reasons, some of the common reasons for depression that we often see? In our world today, there are many, but the ones that are not too challenging, which most people enter the depression, which they can easily overcome, is from the competitive spirit. So a lot of humans are competitive with other humans. Absolutely. And when they lose, they go into a minute depression or a man, we said, these are like the minor depression, right? Sports athletes, they lose, they, for one second, they made a mistake. They lose a gold medal at the Olympics. The fans of those sports athletes. And the fans of those athletes going to the depression. What are the major sports teams, right? Sometimes the whole city goes into depression. We love my one point as the whole thing. And we call this like minute depression, right? Like, you know, sports team, people get up the next day and got to go to work, but there's like, you know, maybe a period of time where everyone just stayed up. Of course, one day. And of course, some might take it even more seriously. Like the real politics, their depression might last months. Like if they're the athletes, right? They're not the athletes. And sometimes the fans have more depression than the athletes. Of course, the athletes, you know, a lot of the athletes have psychologists with them, like people who they see to help them get true. But the fans don't know. Psychologists, right? So these we call these are like, they're, they're, these are the minor aspects of depression that you can work through. From the reshapoint of you, there's not no wrong with competition. But we like healthy competition. A healthy competition is when you are doing something and you see another. A human doing it. Wow, they did something good. Let's try and compete with them to do to make it better than them. But there's a, there's a very important ingredient in there. The yogis, they say, let's compete with each other without envy. If we can eliminate envy out of the equation, then you can have competition. And when you lose because there's no envy, when you lose, you understand, oh, this person, it's this person time and this person, we say, a karmic gift, right? This person brought those did a lot of work in their previous lives, lives while they have this ability. So we don't look at them just in this one snapshot of this life. When I said, oh, they must have done a lot of work. Maybe they feel, feel, feel, feel. And then this life, they are more successful than me. And that in that way, they inspire us. And if on the surface, we lost that game, that competition, but we get inspired seeing, we also have the potential to better ourselves. Yeah. So we get inspired by, oh, wow. You beat me this year. Next year, I'm going to come up and I'm going to get better. So we can be inspired. But this can only come when we are competing without envy. And then you just, your mind will enter the mode of Thomas, that nourish and more destructive than constructive. Yeah. In that competition, it's not just on the sports field. It's sometimes as someone's workspace, even in our day to day life, within a group of friends, there can be that competitiveness. And who looks better? Who has more abs? Who has a better car? You know, all these material assets, right? And so when someone has more material assets than you, compete with them without envy. And understand, yes, they have a karma. Why they have this, this, this. I have my own unique karma. Let me work with the gifts I have and evolve it every day, every day. And so the yoghies, they have this other saying, don't come. Come compete with other people. Come compete with your previous self. Today or yesterday, yesterday I was like this, let me better that. So if we can make ourselves a little bit better every day, compete with our own self, then depression goes out of the consciousness. And another thing also, yoghies perspective, when we are entering those competition, we do our best, but we're not overly attached to the results. And that way we know that we did our best, we are trying to do the best, the results. It's based on so many factors that we have absolutely no control of, then the pressure is taken away. Even though we still, you know, it's natural for us to feel like I wanted to wing, but then that heaviness is being removed. Yeah, you've made up the most, this is one of the most important teaching of the Vedic texts. Over and over again, we see in the Gita, Krishna tells our Jum, perform your duty. Do it, be attached to performing your duty. Do it perfectly well, but don't be attached to the results because the results is not in our hands. So when you know you gave your best, you can go home sleep peacefully knowing you did your best. The results is not in our hands. There's so many things we have no control over. You put some food in your mouth. You don't know how digestion takes place. I have fingernails, we have no clue how fingernails are made, how it's not like so many things, right here in our own body, right, is being governed by higher forces. So this is a very important point to eliminate depression. Do your best, but then the results is not in our hands. And I think farmers have to use this for everyone else to use this philosophy. Farmers have to plant so many food. Then one year, the harvest was amazing. The next year they do the same thing and the harvest is half of what they got from us. So you have to practice a sense of detachment from the results. Out of the results. Attachment to the service, attachment to the duty, detachment from the results. This makes us free from depression. Especially those depression coming from that competitiveness. And then when we bring in that glorifying the opposite, the person who is competing with you rather than being envious, then we elevate our consciousness as well. Yes, yes, absolutely. And another big reason for depression is a lot of times people carry a lot of guilt. Some of the guilt from I did something wrong, some of the guilt might be just that deep heaviness that patterns we holding our hearts. How do we overcome depression out of that guilt, which is a little bit deeper than it was just coming from some sort of competition? Yes, so there's depression on different levels. So one from guilt is even deeper because it's more psychological. As we come into the planet as a child, we start to learn certain dos and don'ts of the universe. The elements of our parents tell us that is fire. Don't put your finger in it. Put the finger in it. Birds of all. The fire burns the baby. All of us, everyone who is listening to the podcast, we forgot it now, but we probably did. Right? So we first went to the ocean. Oh, this is water. They took us to the beach as a little baby. You put your foot, you sink or might. So we started to learn about the modes of this universe. Are you listening solid, you stand, fire burns here. You start to learn the elements of the universe. But then we also start to learn that there is an intelligence behind this universe. And this intelligence allows us if we can fine tune our intellect with the intelligence of the universe, then we can live in this world gracefully. Absolutely. So we have the laws of the universe and then our governmental laws should be in tune with the laws of the universe. So when the government say they don't steal from other people. Those are basic moral laws. But I'm just trying to think of let's say the government speed for cars, the motor. They build a road. The government build a road. And as they build a road, they see a curve here. So what does the government understand? We have to try and protect the humans. So we're going to put a sign here, curve is here. The speed limit is no, 35 instead of 65. But they put rules to keep us safe. But then someone goes, I don't need to slow down and disobey the laws of the road, of the sign. And then they have an accident. And nothing happened to them. The passengers passed away. We see so many things like this in this universe. So that person then, who is the driver, will live in a state of depression. It's so much guilt that, wow. So these are deeper depressed state. These are like, sometimes these last for years. When we make mistakes foolishly, when we create unnecessary harm to others, this is when people fall in a lot of guilt in that remorse state. If they can enter that state of remorse. So this is, yes, if I had just used my intelligence, right? So when we have these type of guilt that keeps someone depressed, how do they pull themselves out of it? So the mental hygiene technique is acceptance, you made a mistake. See, the key is if you don't accept that you made a mistake, there's no way you can get out of that depressed state. So accept you made a mistake. Take the humble position and reach out to those family members or friends of those who offered and then beg for forgiveness. Humble yourself as I made a mistake. And when you start to do those tips, asking people for forgiveness. There's in everyone's heart, we have this power for forgiveness. Why is that? God forgives us. We make so many mistakes. And if God can forgive me, I can forgive others. So, but then we cannot force some people to forgive us. But at least we should come to that state of asking. Once you in that state of asking, it will help to pull you out of your depressed state. And then you will feel, okay, I want to do better for the planet. Totally. I just use one example, but so many aspects in life where people make mistakes, but they're jobs. Right? I'll aspect sometimes in hospitals, schools. We make mistakes and when the negative reaction comes around, wow, we go into that depressed state for a while. And it's hard to come out of it. So we need to then find a deep self-sourction to accept I was wrong. Take the humble position, beg for forgiveness. People might not forgive you, but at least you're working on yourself. And then as you start to reach out, you'll start to see, you start to feel motion. You pull yourself out of Thomas, you want to be more righteous, you're making the work, you're doing the work. Totally. Because we are not perfect as humans. And we all make mistakes. And when we make those mistakes, if we're completely honest with ourselves, we always know that in the heart. That's always that high intelligence is there. But if we are not able to, like you said, you're not able to even accept the first step of, okay, I did this wrong. And we're not able to really like go off that guilt. We're not ever able to forgive ourselves. Because sometimes the guilt that someone's caring and might not have any consequences that they are directly showing. But in their hearts, they carry that burden. And when we're able to be honest with ourselves, acknowledge the mistake, then humbly asking for forgiveness, then are we able to also forgive ourselves for those mistakes, then be able to move on with life? Yeah, that's right. And then when you come to this purutral practices, we also find people might fall into this guilt trap as well. Absolutely. Growing up as a Christian, you hear, follow the 10 commandments, right? No, shall not steal. No, no, no. I can't even remember the first time I stole something as a child. How does it, like where does it come? Like the baby is growing up, right? And like five year old, four year old, there's this stealing poop. So like we brought it from our previous life or something. I remember once I was like, I was maybe five or six and one of my cousins took us to like a store and I saw some little chocolates. And I ended up the propensity of stealing the chocolate. Because I'm going to afford it, right? It does that come from this. So I think sometimes when we grow up, when you're following a spiritual path and then there are all these do's, do's, do's, don't, don't, don't, don't. And if you don't fully live up, we fall into a guilt trap. The way how the reaches on this and is, we're spiritual babies when we start. So God knows when you have a little baby, a little baby is learning to walk, right? And a little baby ever fall. Does the parents get upset? No, they don't even love the, wow, excited that the baby is starting to walk. They're trying. Yes. So in spiritual societies, what I see sometimes is when the novice person is just starting and the new person is starting to follow the rules and you know, of the spiritual journey. Sometimes they have a little slip. Trust me, God is happy, you've made this talk. And then in the, in the Gira, Krishna tells Arjun, I created the senses and they're, I created them very powerful. So that doesn't mean you, so when someone is striving to evolve spiritually and someone has a little hiccup here and there, they break one of the rules of the spiritual, right? Then there's a, if the person can recognize it, yes, okay, that's not in tune with my, the, what, my destination that I want to go get back on track, right? Let me, God is so forgiven. I think people think God is not forgiven sometimes and it's very trust societies, right? It's like, if you're trying hard, but then one of your senses still pull you, right? Okay. Let's start from today. Let's pick yourself up. Even in Krishna tells Arjun, someone on this path, even if they commit a little offense, they should be considered saintly because they are on the path. They're coming on the path. So we have to use that consciousness because I think because of our competitive nature, we install that guilt in others. Mm-hmm. Oh, you are not doing what you're supposed to do. You are less than me. And that's the misunderstanding. Whereas when you see someone having spiritual struggles, it rather than pushing them down, we should be so loving and empathetic to them that we should embrace them and empower them to get back on the path. Because today, that person might be done and I might be strong. Tomorrow that person might be strong and I might be weak. It's not like. It's not like. On the help each other. That's what the journey is. This is how I'm always in my journey. I've always, we are progressing together. I am no greater than any other human on the planet and I am no less than any other human. Across the board, it doesn't matter which religion, which culture, once they have a human form. I know that person has done a lot of work to get the human form out of all the different species to get the human form is rare. So when we see our fellow spiritual brothers and sisters having little issues, really that's the time for us to embrace them, inspire them, empower them, get back on the path. So this is that way you don't install, built in them, installing, oh, care and love and any spiritual society should have this. Absolutely, forgiveness for each other, forgiveness for ourselves and then we get to really evolve together and evolving out of that oppressed state because it's natural when we do something wrong, we should feel that guilt. But that is me, we need to hold onto it and allow that to become part of us. Understandably, right? Oh, okay. Right? No, God forgives us. But then also, like you said, we have to be sincere as well. We cannot make the same mistakes again and again and again and again and again and again. We need to take the action to actually be off. Yes, we have to take that step. Okay, I made a mistake, let me rectify it. And then we grow and yeah, so this is the power and we know like in a society as you know, we're on the planet together. If we meet our brother or sister, who's the press because they're, let's empower them. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. And other than guilt and competitiveness that we all share, sometimes inevitably when things happen in life, when we have some sort of loss, we grieve that can also cause a deep state of depression. I can speak for what I have witnessed in my own mom. She was one of, well, she's still, she's still alive. She is one of the most courageous and most, most optimistic person I've met. But when she lost her parents over the course of two years, she really dropped into that deep state of depression to the point that it hurt her physical body and manifest in a physical body as well. And it took her a very long time to eventually feel like herself again. And fortunately for my mom, she had a really great support system. She has a lot of hobbies that help her to eventually come back to that state before a while. She didn't want to do anything. She didn't want to travel anymore. She felt also because of her personal health. She didn't feel like she's capable of doing anything anymore. And grief is so real because for every single one of us, inevitably in this life, we lose someone. We lose something that's so close to us. So when that happens, what's the risk she's taken on? How can we use those tools to help us navigate? We still have to go through the process, but how can we, without being overly drawn in that deep heaviness of the emotion, still carry on with life? So grief, as you mentioned, it's real. When someone passes away, grief is, remember grief is as, most of these emotions, like, especially like grief, it's a secondary emotion. To the primary emotion coming out of the soul. That love. Because you love someone, that's why the grief is there. Absolutely. That person, the more grief you get that. Totally. The person from a distance, oh, that person from a distance, the grief is not strong. So depending on the force of love and attachment, true love, the grief is strong. So when we go through the grief, then we have to, how the riches utilize it is, how they transform that grief into inspiration to continue is to understand the reality of this world. What is the number one cause per debt? First. First. That's right. So if we didn't take birth, the body wouldn't have to die. So there's like 8.5 billion people, humans on the planet. But that means there'll be 8.5 billion, few neurons, maybe not from some people bodies you can't find them when they're back. But 8.5 billion, that's going to be. A few months. Yes. Now raise the vibration to understand one, it is natural. Who? We have to raise the vibration to understand that we are not just the material bodies. Right? We're not just the body that's in the coffin around the fire pair. We're not just made up of earth, water, fire, air, eater. That's what the body is made of. You and everyone who's listening to this podcast knows we are more than that. Because every night we go to sleep and we experience another dimension with our mind, with our intellect, we call up the astral body. We dream. Right? Everyone in this who's listening, I'm pretty sure you can remember a dream. And in that dream, your physical body was basically like, what you were somewhere else in another part of the planet or another part of the city and you were having so we have a subtle body as well. And then the research is on the stand. Wait, the body that's there in the coffin, where did that mind and intellect go? Right? Right? So right now my body is animate and I'm speaking, but when the true meat leaves, that's when we say that is there. So the realising weight, the body is just a covering for the true spiritual being and we have to put that in the consciousness every day because every day the illusion comes out that I am this body. Every time I ask, we have to reinforce this again and again that when we meet a fellow human, we're not just meeting a body made up of bones and water and no, no, we're meeting a divine spiritual being as well. And until we get to that place, oh, the person is described, that soul is eternal. When we realise, oh, the person who is real love, who passed away, the body is there, but that soul continues. And that soul sometimes come right back to us. Always the visitors and dreams or the. Absolutely. When we are meditating, they come to us in the mind, oh, you know, they're there and they give us guidance. They prove to us they're not dead. So sometimes we have to have a certain experience with them outside of the coffin. Oh, you're still alive. Then we overcome the grief that way. But most people get some awareness of it, but they're not fine tune enough. So, oh, so and so just help me, so and so just, right? So and so you can feel your vibration, understand that they're still alive. And one day, me, you will reconnect with them on the spiritual plane. We will all. Because everyone is eternal. The material body is well, die, but we are spiritual beings living in a material dimension. So we will meet in this virtual dimension again. Every loved one you have had and we will meet them again on a beautiful, our human brain can't understand. And I even perceive that. So to understand one, it is natural. Our body is to birth, body is done in that. Two, recognize you are not attached to the body. You are attached to a soul. Because sometimes, right? Someone, oh, the body is there. But then when you go to the morgue and you see the lifelessness of the body, yeah, wait. That's not how. That's not how. That's not that person. Right, so, raise the vibration. And then, being tuned, our loved ones always visit us in our dreams or in our meditation. And when you're just sitting quiet, sitting still, you can feel them around us. Absolutely. I have had so many dreams of my grandparents who left their body since then. And it's always been really healing and giving me a lot of guidance, knowing that they are always there to protect me and to show me the way. Yeah. And when you have those experiences, the grief goes away. The depression goes away. Yeah. Let's live. Let's enjoy this. Let's live this life. Let's do what I'm supposed to do here because I know this life is only temporary. It's going to come back. Let's do what I'm supposed to do here now. Absolutely. You're beautiful. Yeah. So, hopefully, this can help whoever who might be listening is going through some sort of grief right now. Know that it's totally natural. We have to go through it. But also, there is hope. And that's which comes to another even deeper reasons where sometimes someone might come to a state of deep depression, which is just feeling hopeless. They have gone through so much in their life. One thing after another, they just don't see hope anymore. What do we do when that happens, Yogi Chagrul? So when we enter that state of hopelessness, we should look around the world or your world and find all the amazing gifts we've been given. Gratitude pulls us out of hopelessness. Wow. My two eyes are still working. Some people don't have eyes. My two ears are still working. Some people can't hear. I still have ten toes and two feet. I can't walk. Some people don't have legs. Right now, as we speak, mom's going on. Whenever you think there's nothing for you, just look at the gifts that you've been given. And as you become grateful for the gifts, it pulls you out of and you develop hope again. And even the five hours still breathing here, your heart is still beating. Yes. So grateful for the lungs, grateful for the heart. And then when you are grateful for these little things, then the hope comes back. Little, little, little. And then all of a sudden you realize, wow, my life is, because it's all relative. When people lose hope, we're comparing ourselves to something else. Someone has a one bedroom house. One bedroom, let's say a one bedroom house. They are a little offset cause the neighbor over there. Oh, I can't get the education. I don't have the money. I can't. There's no way I can't manifest a mansion like the king or something. I feel hopeless. Then the person takes a trip into the mountain somewhere on the planet and they find a tribe where people even have just some touch up and they're happy. They're happy with the sense. So it's all relative, right? And hope. So when we become grateful for what we have, then we snap ourselves all out of that hopeless state, recognizing there's so many gifts around me. And I might not achieve what I want, but I can be, if I become content with what I've been given, that brings me to a place where, wait, I can be hopeful, right? I have ten, I have two nostrils working to that. If I can do certain things, I can, but then we have to also understand, keep our desires within that is that are in a tangible manner. Tangible. Tangible. That are that people have desires beyond their. Their car make condition. So yeah, so when someone is in depression because they're hopeless, they can snap themselves out of that depression by starting to recognize the gifts they've been given. Yeah, that's such a beautiful reminder. It might be hard at times to see there's anything good happening, but when you start to just take a moment to calm those things, you realize there's so much more that's really happening than we even notice. And then then take a walk, then find a little bit movement, invite a little bit of passion into your life and slowly, slowly, we can bring ourselves out of that heavy state. Go watch us sunrise, go watch us sunrise, be enamored by the beauty around us like wow, then yeah, we're breathing so that means that luck can be done. Totally, as long as we're still living this body, there's, your story is not ending yet, so there's going to be a plot to a somewhere and then we might be able to see the next chapter before we even realize it. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, these are just some angles of why people get depressed and how to overcome them. And we have to also always remember, if you meet someone who's, they say spiritually evolved, it's not that they don't have depression. And that thing when scenarios triggered the depression from the freedom, they have techniques like we just explained some of these techniques to overcome them. Mm-hmm. Like you mentioned, even a gym, the most evolved person, he fell into that deep state, he could even do his job to protect. But then if he has the tools, the courage to get back up and fight to protect his people, we can also have the same courage to break out of that depression that we might be going through. Yeah, we can follow our June's footsteps, absolutely. Beautiful. Yogi Charyoujiu, guide us through a short two to three minutes of meditation. Yes. Maybe a gratitude meditation. So we can all remember the beautiful world that we are still living in regardless of what horrible things we might be experiencing in this moment. Absolutely. Good. So let's come into a nice comfortable seated posture, bring the palms and the knees, touch the tip of the thumbs, tip of the index fingers, close the eyes softly. As you close your eyes, bring your awareness to the breath. Be enamored by the breath. The breath has been your constant companion in this life. Take your awareness to your two amazing lungs. Be grateful for those two lungs. Bring your gaze and the center of the eyebrows and want you to bring the image of something that you were feeling maybe guilty of. You made a mistake and you created some negative reactions from it. And to overcome that guilt, the reaches teach. Let us take the humble position and accept I was wrong. Then beg for forgiveness from those individuals who we might have offended. That's how we pull ourselves out of the guilt. On this spiritual journey, sometimes we may make slipups, break the do's and don't's rules. As little babies walk, the parents embrace them. God is our parent and as we make spiritual steps forward and we make one step back, God forgives us, pulls us back up. And as we know that God is forgiven, the guilt falls away and we can get back on the journey. And as you evolve, when you see your spiritual brothers and sisters around you might slip and power them to get back on the path. One of the most powerful way we carry depression is when we lose our pet. I'm a member. It's natural because you love them. The more you love them, the grief is stronger but recognize the soul and the body is eternal. Recognize you, the person listening to my voice is a spiritual being and not just the body made up of earth, water, fire, air, ether. And the spiritual being in the bodies or loved ones that pass over, cross over, they visit us either in meditation or in dreams at night. They come and remind us, "Hey, I'm still around." So wait for those moments and they will help you to heal the mind, help us come out of the grief state. The depression falls away when we know they are still alive and we will meet them again in the next dimension. The force of love with our loved ones. And in our competitive spirit, we've all experienced being depressed because we lost to someone or a team lost or something because we are competitive in nature but let's compete with each other without envy. Let's glorify the other side, recognize they have a skill from their previous life, why they want and they can impose to get better, no need to hold depression from the loss of something material. We can take that loss to better ourselves. With this we can use everyday in life as an opportunity to better our previous life. The others say, "Let's compete with ourselves. Today let me be better than mine's previous self from yesterday." With that in mind, we can step forward. Everyday is an opportunity to evolve, to cherish life, do my duty and not be attached to the results. Let's be attached to our duty or service to humanity or service to the planet knowing that the results is not in our hands. As we do this duty, what will allow us to do it is the gift from God, especially the main gift is the bread. Take a deep inhalation, appreciate your bread, exhale, home to the heart, lower the brain, the skull towards your higher self, come up to the head, and the eyes, at the home. That's it. Thank you. Thank you so much, Shio Kicharu. Thank you, Brenda, for hosting and hope everyone who is listening out there, try and put the philosophy of practices. We went through interior daily life. I go through depression. Brenda goes through depression. Every one of us does from time to time. Again, depression have different scales, so you'll be able to get through some quickly than others, but we can get through them. I know that we get through them together, evolving together, yes, and spread each other. Absolutely. If you know someone in your life who might be going through some sort of depression in this stage of their life, give them a little bit of actual love, give them some, take them out for a walk, remind them of how amazing they are and maybe even send just the last bit of the meditation to them so that we can really help each other to never give those challenging times. Yeah, they are pleased to share their podcasts, all your friends and family so that they can benefit from it as well. Absolutely. Thank you all so much for joining us. This is Mental Hygiene and we look forward to speaking with you again very soon. Yes, thank you, Hygiene. Thank you, Shio Kicharu. Thank you, Brenda, Hygiene. Thank you for joining us with Mental Hygiene, where ancient wisdom meets modern life one breath at a time. With this episode brought you peace, insight or inspiration, we invite you to subscribe, leave a review and share with someone you love. To go deeper, connect with Yogi Churu and Susan Hoo, follow the journey on Instagram at Mental Hygiene Podcast. Until next time, keep your mind clear, your heart open and your spirit grounded. Be well, be still. [MUSIC]