Episode 255: ONE PIECE Break Week

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Last year, I wasn't in town, so. - And they were, they were, yeah? - Yeah, and they lost. I mean, if I was at game one last year, I'd have cried. I probably would have killed a man. - All right, wow. - I'm not even playing. If y'all go back and watch game one of the Eastern Conference Finals last year, you would understand why murder was on my mind. Anyway, but yeah guys, like the stream. I'm gonna shout out chat before we get into some trooper chats. I see Creative Broccoli's in here. Davey D. Oaks is in here. I see Xavier O'Dilly. I see, oh, it's really just the same, like five people over and over again. Yeah, it's Nick's is in here. Sonny is here. Plump is here. Trafalgar D. Janney, TK Tite, just so many. We really appreciate it. Red Eyes is here, Mr. Prince, Almighty Solo, Eric, Corey Carrazzo, just so many. Please hit that like button if you haven't already. It does help with the YouTube algorithm. Guys, let me know what you think I should do. Should we do the theory first? I think I told you guys about the theory that I had that I was working on about Garling. I know y'all don't love Garling, but I have this little mini theory that y'all might like Lawrence more specifically because he's seen who I'm gonna reference him to, and I don't think Lionel has. Or you mentioned it to Marv a little bit earlier. It's not that we, I gotta say, not that we don't like Garling, we just know he didn't scar like me. You don't know that. No, we know. I think the evidence kind of speaks for itself. You know, like, he's not strong enough. So a lot of times people take the stuff I say, and it may be not in their favor, right? I guess even you wanna say this is negative about someone. It's not that I don't like them. There's not many people, like, for example, no, I explained it before on the podcast. I said this before, 'cause it was, I don't know when, but I did. Even about Marco. It's not I don't, he did the beats with Sebastian. It's like, I don't put people where he is, so I fight against, 'cause I heavily believe he's not of that stature, so I fight for it. I'm the type of person, I fight for what I believe in. Right? The only person I could say fully I don't really, like, some of the time is Usopp and his cowardsy. Like, I don't like that at all, you know? Like, I was kind of regretting when they got him on the crew, because like, yo, he's a coward. - That's so great. - No, from the beginning, I was like, 'cause he's a coward, and I don't like that. - You didn't give him a chance, man. - It's not changing, you know? But it's not that I don't like these people, it's just like, if I don't believe it, so it's not bashing them, I'm not slandering them, I'm not attacking them. If I don't believe something about a character, and that goes for anybody, like I said before, I have favorite characters, but I have certain gripes about those favorite characters, I do. Something that I wouldn't, me personally, wouldn't do myself. So it's like, everyone kind of, I view people that way. If you do something I wouldn't do, or I don't believe to do it, I'm gonna say it. I'm not gonna favoritize them that way, no. Like, for example, my favorite person is Roger. I'm not turning myself in, that's not something I'd do, I'm sorry, I wouldn't do it. I would not do it. - Hold on, even if you knew, like, how would you have sparked the-- - I would have done it a different way, I would have thought of a different way to do it. I haven't thought about, like, that, because I'm not putting my hands into my enemies' hands. - You have to create the spectacle, though. - Yeah, I mean, you, for example, in a way, not exactly the same, I know, not exactly the same, I'm gonna use, Luffy did it when he wanted to send his message out to his crewmates. - It's not the same. - He did, I know, I said it's not the same. But anyway, drawing that attention to yourself is very possible. You're the Pirate King. You can find another way to do it. You know, you don't have to turn yourself in to do it. That's something I wouldn't do, you know? - I can respect the not turning yourself in, I'm saying whatever solution you have for getting the message out to the masses, you can do it. - That's not-- - Dude, if you need it, you just need Big News Morgan. You act like he's not-- - That's all you need? - Yeah, no, you're pretty much saying that. He would have to, for Ryzer to do this, he would have to tie in with Big News Morgan. - Who knows how big he was at the time, anyway. - And Vegapunk, honestly, 'cause Vegapunk's walked past, those two people could factor the world. Ryzer's like, I'm gonna connect with both of them, or let me say what I gotta say. It's just like, I am that shit, it may not be something you're gonna, I'm just not turning myself into the world government or the Marine Corps. - I can respect it, your message isn't getting out there. - No, it will, it will, it will. - All right, let's hit some of these super chats, man, and then we'll get into some of the other media stuff for the episode. But again, guys, like the stream. We got 12 months at Nakama status from Xavier Odili. It says, sup, crazy idea, what if Elbaf's sword is Zunisha's? - Like, he uses Trump to pick it up and just starts swinging? - No way, and unless you're talking about, they're like, are they stuck in the zone? One, you have to believe that Zunisha is a Zoan. And then, are they stuck in the zone? 'Cause what about the hybrid form and stuff like that? Is it just like a bigger version of Jack? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what is Zunisha? I don't know if that's the case. I don't see it. Until we get further on this, I'm gonna say, as dope as that could be, 'cause just swinging with your trunk is not cool to me. It's not something I expected. - That would be, it's so old, though. - It is old. - It is old. - I feel like the sword's too big. - That's what I'm thinking, too. I mean, 'cause-- - Bigger than Zunisha? - It might be, honestly. 'Cause, but also, I'm thinking of, Zunisha's walking in the ocean, wouldn't it? So, like-- - Yo, yo, yes, and maybe I'm just size-scaling poorly here. Elbaf is like, El-- - I don't know what's in the figure, actually, I don't know. - I'm trying to think, yo. I'm trying to think. 'Cause Elbaf is huge, and the sword is, like, protruding into Elbaf, probably, like, digged into the core. So it's, like, only a part of the sword that we even see. So it's, like, even longer than that. - They might be the same height, bro, before we know it. - Maybe it is Zunisha's. And maybe whatever Zunisha's punished for is whatever happened to do with the sword. - And I'm trying to think, is this theory of Spahadim's sword ability? 'Cause that's the link I got. 'Cause remember, this is Spahadim's-- - Who? - Spahadim's-- - Spandim. - Yeah, Spandim. Like, does his sword turn into an elf or some stupid-- - It does. - So is that your idea? Is that where that sparked at? 'Cause that's just funny. - I don't know. I mean, again, I could totally see Oda doing that, though. Having Zunisha wield the sword with-- - No, I think, honestly, remember the shadow figures we saw right before Skypie, those things like that? For some of the wield of the sword, you'd kinda have to be that size, I guess, you know? Maybe they foreshadowed something that we're gonna see. - The only thing I can think of that would be that big is the creatures that we think existed that we don't know, but the fact that there's a big, giant skull on Onigashima. That's somebody's head. - Yeah? - And they existed at some point. That's like, we're talking about that type of big. - Question, question real quick, real quick. All right, 'cause we already know, like, all right, there's Loki, but he's laying away, not a full-on blood, he has ancient biome, but there's probably bigger ancient giants of that one, right? But say, like, 'cause it could just be the eight legendary giant. If he was the full-blooded, like in how Orr's in that one, like the full-on, or I'll say the father of them, he'd probably be the biggest. And what if, if you go into your, and he had the dragon fruit, that makes you the biggest dragon, whatever. But it's also relative to your size. The bigger you are, the bigger that dragon is going to be. So how would the biggest giant we could possibly think of eat that thing in that hybrid form? Do you think that would be the wielder of the sword? Because to me, is that big enough? Probably. I mean, maybe not, but like. Is that big enough, though? I like the idea that whoever is skulling on Yashima is the sword owner or whatever, wielder. But there's two big swords that we know of. There's one in Wano, which is a Japanese sword. And it's the same thing. Then you have one in Elbap. So just like, all right, who are these big giant people that are wielding these swords? So we've already talked about the giants in general, right? And like, now they have these gods who seemingly may have been walking the earth at some point. Maybe the world is just full of more giants at a different point in time. I assume it's really just more the legends of Auras' people. All right, we got another 20 from Creative Broccoli. It says, yo, we've seen Dophie, Boa, and Mihawk have Conqueror's Hockey. We've also seen that their Seraphim keep at least some of their personalities and can use Observation and Armament Hockey. Do you think they could ever use Conqueror's Hockey and Rebel? My question is, when did we see Mihawk? Oh, use Conqueror's Hockey? Yeah. I completely skated by that. Mihawk was both nodding like, Boa, Dophie, and Mihawk. I'm like, Mihawk. I mean, I feel like it's widely. It's widely assumed and accepted that Mihawk's a Conqueror. Which is fair. But you're right. We haven't seen it. But again, it's the same thing where I argue with Lawrence with Reuma. I'm the one who told Lawrence that I thought Reuma was a Conqueror and Lawrence agreed with me. But we don't have proof. But yeah, we just don't have proof. There's certain people I could say for a fact weren't Conquerors without proof. And obviously, the only people I thought of off the top of my head was Roger and Rox. Because the narrative, they said that. They kind of implied that heavily. I feel like Garp was another one. People had argued that he could not be, but I feel like it was. It was accepted and known that Garp is, right? Yeah. To me, it didn't make sense that he wasn't, but he wasn't being betrayed at the beginning. It was like, how is he not? It doesn't make sense. It's just the names he was being respected by and tussling with was just very clearly. Like, even the dudes that had beef with Garp, with Don Chinzala, it's like, yo, I'm wrecking you. You know what I mean? And that's why you were making exceptions. Like, Garp's the exception, I guess, because it didn't make sense. And also, I think I got a text. I'm not confused. But also, like, I don't know if you guys mentioned Sengoku being a conqueror. Yeah, exactly. It's like, Sengoku and Garp was, you know, matched with all these other conquerors, like Roger, Whitebeard, and your boy has Conquerors. There's no way in our minds to think, oh, Garp is not one of them. It didn't make any sense. Okay, so to the question itself, do you think that they could utilize Conqueror's Hockey and rebel? I do think it tells an amazing story if they could. I just don't know how you transfer Conqueror's Hockey into. I don't know how you transfer Willow Power at all from one to the other. See, so. Well, to me, there's a good chance that they might, only because we're seeing, like, bloodline elements. In a way, it's their DNA. Like, we're seeing other characteristics, like, for example, Bo Hancock, right? It's showing that kind of naturally she gravitates to liking someone like Luffy, even as, like, for example, we see the adult one do it. But we see why that happened, because Luffy showed that he was different, right? There's no reason at all the young one should start liking Luffy, right? Because they didn't build up this thing that Bo Hancock saw in Luffy, that he was different. He was pure heart. He's not like all the men that she's seen, like the horrors of men. Luffy's seen more genuinely pure heart and a nice guy that actually cares for others, that wanted Bo Hancock's heart. That didn't happen with, you know, the younger one. So where is she getting these feelings from? It didn't make sense. It's just a funny gag, right? You know, this little version of her. So if it's, like, in a way, like, their DNA. Because also, too, we're seeing. Well, I didn't see my DNA. We're seeing it get passed. It's predisposed to just loving Luffy. I guess so. I guess so. It could also be, somehow, also, as well, that through the cloning, he's taking some of their qualities and personalities with it. So it could be, like, even though they're clones or whatever, he's taking some of the qualities that what makes Bo Hancock, Bo Hancock, Mihawk, Mihawk, Dolphin, whatever. So you might see little glimpses of that. Do you guys think that their age plays a factor? Because I might agree with, for some of them, I didn't think that S-Hawk was anything like Mihawk. He was extremely aggressive, seemingly bratty, and maybe that's what Mihawk was like as a child, but that's just not what Mihawk is like now. He's kind of calm, cool, collected. So, like, I don't know. Maybe Bo was boy-crazy when she was younger. Like, I don't know. There's a little difference because, for example, the Stussy we see in the flashback seems a little different from the Stussy we see. Like, you know. But that just goes with age, though. Like, for instance, Luffy as a kid, now, even. I get you, and that's all I'm saying, but there's big differences. There's big differences when Luffy as a kid now, whatever, because remember, Luffy cried when he was a baby, when he was a kid. Luffy hates crying now. The only time we saw Luffy cry was when Usopp left, or when Ace passed. Also, when he was losing his crew, he cried, too. Yeah, I mean, yeah, stuff like that, but, like, when you see Luffy getting hit, and he's crying, you get me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. One thing is, like, if you're passing it on to your kids, there's a good chance, because it's not, say, through DNA. We don't really know why, but there's a good possibility, if he's taking the DNA or blood elements or whatever he. There's a good chance that they could have it, you know? Or maybe he's taking something different to actually awaken it, though. All right, you have it, but we see, like, maybe something's not awakening it. So maybe there is a different thing where he has to be awakened in, like, these people, because they're clones, not the real thing, you know? I don't know. I guess we'd have to find out more, because Orta's still. That's one thing he has to uncover, what makes a conqueror fully. We get little hints of it, but, like, Ari, what exactly is. It's crazy we don't have that specific answer, technically. And there's more to it. People are popping up now. It went from, like, one in a million to, like, they're popping up, like. Well, there's just billions of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Odds are, if you're going to be willing to do the things or being involved in the things that we're seeing now, you're going to be. Even, like, when Luffy knocked. There was 100,000 fishmen? Uh-huh. And, again, that's not even. Huh? 50,000 he knocked out. Yeah, but there was 100,000, right? 100. And that's not even all fishmen on the island, right? But they just said, that's how much Luffy knocked out, not categorizing the whole island. And guess how many conquerors were on the island? One, two, maybe three of Sonic. Like, that's. Like, that's a big difference. I know. They did say, in the new world, you're going to see more people with it. We're, like, outside of the new world. We didn't get much. Okay. Another five from Yeah, It's Nick. What's up, gang? Can't wait to watch this back and review the chapter. Again, it's wild that I have to work 6 to 6.30 a.m. That's pretty rough, man. Yeah, bro. Have a good stream on the way to a bag. Well, have a good day at work. Try to. Yeah, man. That's correct. That's crazy, bro. That's rough, bro. Yeah, man. Prayers up for you. Get some rest. It's so important. Another five from TKT Tech. It says, Bonnie is on track to being one of the strongest people in One Piece once she hits adulthood. She already has hockey and control of Adelphru, and she's only 12 years old. Yeah, she really is. Like, if you're talking about trending towards being a top tier, like, who started this young with this much I mean, people have unlocked Conqueror's Hockey a little earlier than this, but they weren't, like, utilizing it. But my thing is, it's like, I don't know if she can really utilize her hockey like that. I actually think she's just probably tapping to her future when she's able to use hockey and just doing it. I will also say this. Like, Dofie unlocked Conqueror's Hockey and had Adelphru before this. Technically. And it was about that action. I feel like most of us would probably pick Dofie in a fight versus Bonnie. But I don't think that. Oh, Ace did the same thing, too, though. You want to add that? We didn't have Adelphru. At the time, he didn't have Adelphru, yeah. I don't know. It's possible Bonnie would still win that matchup versus Kid Dofie. But. I don't know. Because honestly, what Lionel said, that's probably what's happening. It could be actually in the future where she could use it. Like, for example, you didn't watch Hunter x Hunter, but it is an example of, like, what happens with Gon, right? But it could be that's what she's doing, because she keeps saying disordered future, right? And then it could be disordered future if that's what she. It is pretty broken. And so the future, we're like, all right, a time where, like, say, like, I ate the Nika fruit. It shows, like, where I can use, you know, that. Because she's. They're showing with her ability, and that's what makes it broken. She's dabbling into futures and dimensions where she could have Haki, she could have ability like Nika. Like, she's dabbling into territories that we don't fully understand or know in One Piece World. Okay, so devil's advocate, right? The way her ability works is how crazy her imagination can kind of go. She can tap into these futures, potential futures. Granted, it might not necessarily be a negative, but do y'all think that she's able to placate that up or play that up to her benefit because she's a child? She still has this, like, dreamlike wonder for the world. If she gets older and becomes more grounded in some sort of realism, will that limit her ability, or will it just make the darker futures more possible and innately more powerful? Like, which do y'all think it is for. Bonnie? I. It depends on how you develop your mind, in a way. Mm-hmm. Because not, like, for example, let's go with Blackbeard. Mm-hmm. He said, for the man's dreams never die. Yeah, I think that, too. Okay. So it's like, and then, for example, you have Blackbeard, but then you have Bellamy, in a way, who kind of seemed like his dreams did die for him because of what he went through. So it kind of sort of, like, it depends on, not like Blackbeard ain't going through any hardships or whatever, but it kind of sort of, like, how you kind of do your life, how you choose to develop things. Are you going to let, like, pretty much the world, Emu's world or whatever, kind of defeats you conquer you where like you stop dreaming and you stop being imaginative or whatever you know or are you able to overcome and conquer it and still keep this mind where like you're able to expand because to me it's like it shouldn't limit ultimately it should grow because your mind becomes sharper you become more you become wiser you become smarter you grow into your ability more capable like even luffy how to use your ability even different in a better way you know that should happen with body especially now because she shows to be pretty smart but it could it to me it looks like for example if the future goes well for you or the future goes bad well like if she could tap into any future like now i want to tap into future where it went well for me you could also just do that okay she could even tap into my best future you know my most successful future what does that look like my strongest future you know what i'm saying where i'm the most i'm the most prime remember there's a superman prime body prime my strongest and most ever i tap into that one you know something that she can expand on to do to make herself like cox and i was saying because what because more what saturn said then he said like the more you believe whatever right and i get what you're saying because like when you're a kid you have that innocent like you dream a lot more like everything's like wonderful everything's like pretty much like your words are your oyster pretty much but when you get older you see the realism or things become more real you mature and your views might change a little bit you're not you may not be as a big of a dream when you were a kid because you face the real world you realize all right don't things always don't work out the realistic of like of reality and i was like that's where i get like the conflict like you know because like you could be dream big then you need something like emo that destroys it you get me like like i think she started to doubt a little bit exactly saturn and in a world where hockey is so important like ultimately as strong as she can become it's going to be about her willpower right that's going to push her to her limits and then in way her ability works it's like belief and willpower like in conjunction so if she stays in this like prime space of happiness slash belief slash will yeah then she can go as far as she can go but if she's as any reductions in that as she gets older i don't know it might it might in turn limit her but we got another five from tkt it says how strong is maharaga with a domain expansion and what do y'all think of him getting one in modulo um all right so i'm not fully caught up in jjk and the twins don't watch it at all mark do you have any okay um tk my bad bruh this is a larry question my mans ain't here today um maharaga go pretty hard he basically adapts to everything that comes at him so you have to be able to like wipe him you know how cell could like regenerate from stuff you had to completely erase cell entirely to get him out of there yeah maharaga is like that but he also like can just adapt to whatever you did just do with him now i'm adapting that won't work on me anymore kind of a thing sure you just kid boo for that instead of uh i thought so i don't know why but yeah kid boo's probably the better cop um domain expansion is also like where you can kind of change the surroundings to lock somebody into a space and like they can't get out of it so it's like him with that ability plus the adaption ability he's pretty broken if he has all that is what i'm saying i don't even know what modulo is so i can't really answer i'd say um gojo still got it somehow another yako joined the ship in jeffrey kesley so welcome enjoy all the emojis welcome welcome yeah man they come with being a joining yako another five from tk tt it says do y'all think big mom felt the soul inside emma and that's why she told kaido to dodge endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house the soul inside emma it's very possible i i took it as just energy slash hockey or whatever i would i took it as i don't know i don't i want to say the soul inside emma because i don't think there's a soul in it because like for example in a sense we get what emma was doing right out of all the other swords it was drawing out the most i guess hockey right so even more than what even though zero was putting it out there but he was fine because he was managing because that's the hockey he was admitting his roles in like battle mode fighting two yankos but as you compare the other swords it's probably absorbing the most out of that like it stood out like because obviously if you're such that you could they should you could sense hockey you could sense in that the greater output in that hockey like yo why is that sword radiant with hockey right now so probably like it's it's a it's a threat now so i think that's kind of what was happening so yo dodge that because the amount of hockey just like took from zero or was putting into it or was taking from zero like you don't want to get hit by that i think it was mostly what's happening not necessarily this the soul of the sword i don't know did they talk about soul of swords it won't be so much just saw a grim reaper at one point yeah and in sbs is it was like if this sword had a a face or whatever like if you know i mean like we've had that so again this is to me i know a lot of people keep thinking this i want to say it again people keep thinking the grim reaper was the sword that doesn't make any sense to me right because remember you guys got to remember the state that zero was in before the fight right he broke over i was a 200 bones it was a crazy amount of bones or 27 bones i always forget the number i know it's a big gap but i know it started with two it was like 27 or 200 bones in his body right to the point where zero was like coughing out blood if he moves he's gonna like you know whatever he damaged him right and then he took a shot from chopper right that didn't heal him all it did was make him not feel the pain so he can move right then he said i'm worried about remember this is all the damage took all the way now getting hit by kaido uh blocking uh that sovereignty attack all until that point and then also you got to add his fight with albert all the damage he took from that from then on to the end of wano it says whatever he damaged it he's gonna feel remember we talk about blackberry feeling double the pain no this is double the damage for zero so now he blocked when he got hit by the zombie that's twice now he broke whatever bones double that you know he got hit with kaido he got hit by like kaido twice everything is double the damage to him so that's what he said so the oldest trying to tell us all those order went through the double damage it's like all right most people would have been dead from this was real strong will he's legit fighting death to survive because all he wants to remember it was double damage ev from all of wano that's what they're showing it wasn't the sword people forget that factor you know that was that's what i understood it to be i could be wrong but always because why would the sword make him see death you know i understand no it was because the damage he was in uh he took from that point he's in a body cast before he fall out like you know it's true um i agree i'm not touching the whole zone being almost dead part and seeing green river i was talking about the um rooftop thing i do agree it was definitely on the hockey that big mom saw but i also go i always thought the hockey they were talking about was odin's at the time because because kyle came on saying because they were saying what's up with the sword in his hockey and kind of him saying how come i've seen since odin like he kept on bringing that up i thought at the beginning it was odin's hockey and over time that's when zold's hockey started to get more improvised inside the sword question right so i i don't understand that how do you do you think he was reacting similar to when the scabbards were fighting him about odin a little bit and that's why i was like that's the only thing i questioned is like how is he sensing odin's hockey during these moments is it it could be the whole trauma pst thing or is it like at this moment they're um he's they're sharing odin's will and that's what he's sensing that's what i want actually some things i want order to clear up yeah because it's like what are we like because that's that to me that's the first time we saw that that somebody else's hockey or will is being represented supposedly but somebody's sensing or feeling somebody else yeah see and that's why i think because i don't think you're saying oh it's odin's hockey but it wouldn't make sense because how long it's been 20 years and not being well thinking that goes with the hockey now thing yeah i understand that but see but that not shows that it was trapped right and then once that knot was pulled it was released and not that knot's not still holding the hockey is it so the sword what is trapping the hockey in it is it emma just holding out and releasing it maybe it could be that if it's kind of like alive in that way maybe well that's what i pointed out to like that's not the first time or the only time that kaida was like seeing odin thing because even like for example the scabbards who don't have the hockey to truly hurt him but showcasing that odin what he was feeling he's like why are they hurting me like he's like i'm he's sensing odin's energy and it's hurting him similar to what not exactly what similar to how odin did and kind of couldn't even figure that out he's like how are they affecting me right so it's kind of showing that they're coming with this inherited will like odin right so i think that was kind of happening with zoro you know he heard of all of odin's backstory from the scabbards he wants to take kaido out down like that the sharing well all of them you know and then he shares their blood because he's a shimashuki but i think that inherited will so funny was in effect where like that stage rather take you out or whatever i don't know i didn't fully explain it but To me, it wasn't just Zorro or a sword doing it. We saw it with the scalpers, too. I can't say, oh, the sword was Odin's cocky because we saw it with the scalpers. They don't have Edma. They don't have Zorro. They have their own swords. So why is it the same thing happening there with them? It has to be something else. The main thing we got was inherited will. That's kind of like the common ground we got. Inherited his will. Because we kind of seen the same thing with Luffy. He showed that he's heavily inherited Roger's will. You know? We don't really have many people that fought Roger and fight Luffy at the same time. It's like, oh, my God. It's like, well, I haven't seen anybody. I don't know. The closest thing would be, what, Rayleigh? Has he ever fought both of them for real? Maybe Kylo did. Maybe. Yeah, Garb. He didn't really fight Luffy. But the thing is that we got a little bit of that. It was when Ray, when, the whole thing is like, it wasn't through fighting. It was through words. It's like they heard Shanks and Ray. Yeah. Both when they saw Luffy speak, who'd they see? I was going to say. The Bond as well, potentially. Because he at least has gotten in Roger's face. I don't know if they ever fought for real. Okay. Yeah. Interesting combo. Another 10 from the FedEx guy. If Killingham is able to tap into Emu's fear to make a sleep tid, we could get a Joy Boy sleep tid silhouetted, where Killingham loses control of it, hinted by Somers, and it backfires on them. I don't know if Emu would appreciate that. He would take out Killingham. So, while this is amazing, I think I'd hate it because I think that what it's doing is the same thing that we just got in the last arc. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Where Joy Boy, big bad Joy Boy saving the day. Yeah. I need Luffy and Loki and the team to start locking in against some dubs here. You can't keep relying on hockey knots, relying on people's mistakes to summon the dude who you're supposed to be surpassing. Yeah. Because he was already at an uphill battle to surpass Roger. And now you're talking about. And now you're talking about this other guy that maybe you one day are better than. I don't know if I like that as a plot development. And back to back arcs. Actually, that made me think now. And I don't know how you're going to feel. Are you going to like it at all? Because we're getting a little glimpse of that. Do you think we're ever going to get a sleep tid of any of the great legendary pirates? It'd be funny to see a sleep tid of rocks. Just to see what Larry's reaction would be. So, I will say we did get a hint of it, but it wasn't Joy Boy. What Gunko said. Who do you fear? What's your fear, Gunko? He said Nika, right? He said Nika, right? But again, I would rather Luffy fight Nika, right? Than they be on their side like Sebastian said. Because we just got that, right? Like you said. So, it's like, for example, the Luffy before Luffy. It's two people. It's Joy Boy and Roger. And he's already following Roger's dog on his way. They're not Roger mapped out for him. He's following and he's getting help from Remnus of the Roger Pirates and all that. And then you have the past of the hockey. And now an image of Joy Boy or whatever. Like kind of like of someone who you kind of are now. Like the new version of it or the stage version of it. Helping you out. It's too much of like this way guiding, you know? But even off that, like, I don't think that's possible. Because they're not actual. Like, do you get me? Like, at least we're in the narrative. Because that's what I'm thinking right now. The question for me becomes. Can they. Can Emu combine his ability with the sleep tent ability? Where it's like, all right, I'm omening this now. That would be dope. Like, all right. Yeah, we got a Joy Boy sleep tent. We got a Nika sleep tent. We got whatever. We're rock sleep. It doesn't matter. But now I'm omening it. And now I'm enhancing what it can actually do. Because as they are now, the sleep tents just aren't. They don't vote at all. Something needs to be added to it for it to become a real threat to me. That's the only. I don't know if that even works. But why not? It's all made up hours. To me, it's like. It would be a kind of example of what almost throw the bark. Right? And I'm low-key still mad Oda didn't give it to us. Right? As dope as Ryuma, you know, being, having Brooke's shadow. I thought it would have been so dope if he had Zoro's. You know? So, anyway, we could get it. And then also having Zoro fighting. Because also, we didn't even get Zoro fighting his own shadow. We didn't get that at all. And then you had him fight Ryuma. But his Brooke's shadow, we all know. Even though we saw that Ryuma made Brooke's style better or stronger because of the way he was fighting. Brooke couldn't beat him. If you got that. I think it would have been better if it was like his own descendant is in his shadow. And then that will and spirit is Zoro's fighting. It would have been dope with that one. Right? But now, like you said, we could get an example of that. If we do get a sleep tent, shadow sleep tent, you know, of Joy Boy or Nika or whatever. I think at this point it should be Nika and not Joy Boy. Right? Because we just seen Joy Boy. Joy Boy, whatever. And then he omenizes. Omenizes. Omenizes. Omenizes. Omenizes. That Nika sleep tent. Sleep tent. Omenizes. I'm making up words. We need to collect them aside. Right? That Nika. To have them battle that, you know, I think that will be cooler than them being saved by that. Yeah. Plus, I really just want Killing Him and Somers to take their L's to Zoro and Sanji. Like, I don't, I want them to be competent. Oh, I believe that Zoro and Sanji is going to 1v1 them and take them down. Yeah. I want them to be competent. I don't want it to be a, oh, I messed up again for the sixth time. Sorry. Like, nah, man, to me, they're going to be, they're supposed to be stronger. Like super through that is going to show. And I think it could be the point where Sanji could awaken whatever they wake up because now they're stronger with the Omi. And when it takes to already take them down to overcome the regenerative, the ability. Now, I don't know if it's going to mean that they're going to fully take them out, like, you know, make them pass or whatever, but to fully overcome that and then a stronger version of that, I think it could be actually worth it now where they're going to be able to overcome. All right. All right. We got another two from TKTT. It says, Luffy is the sun god and son of a god. Dragon is the Zaza. I think we talked about this a little bit last stream or last week. I believe Dragon probably is the Zaza demon. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yeah, I think that's the doubt for that dragon one like you have. I think. Wait, why? Okay, so we went over it a little bit last week. Bonnie weren't there. But in general, one, I think I don't even know if we brought this out specifically, but I think the fact that it's been framed as something that is a nightmare to the celestial dragons is even further, like tying it to dragons whole revolution. My goal is to overthrow the. The world government and the celestial dragons that sit at the top, like their biggest fear is this this this god, like one of their biggest fears is this and like Luffy being one of their other biggest fears, dragon being this other dynamic fear. I think and Lawrence, feel free to jump in. I think the other pieces of it where we talked about how dragon has always seemingly been represented by weather in some way. Yeah, this could just be a deeper. Bag that Oda can pull from with the this like rain god. So like the deal is brings a storm and dragons always looking eat whatever east and like the winds always blowing. Every time you see him, the winds are blowing and there's rain. The first chapter we see from dragon. It's like a hailstorm. Something comes lightning strikes like it's like a weather based phenomena that's going down. There's a giant gust. So if you were to like have a devil fruit for dragon, people always theorize it would be some weather based fruit. And now we're. In this space where like you can't just have a weather fruit, you know, I mean, it has to be more like we've had the rain, God, the forest, God, the sun, God, you know, I mean, the earth, God, we've had all of that for dragon to just have like a wind loggy fruit or something lower than that. I don't feel like it stands to cause or sense of justice for like what his impact on the story is supposed to be, especially going forward. Yeah, right. Like, I feel like we'd all be relatively disappointed. It's kind of weird. Oda's boxed himself into this now. We're like, he's at least laid the groundwork for it. So I think that's good. But now, like, we're all going to just be retroactively disappointed if it's not something like this. So, no, I think it's I think it is. I think it works. I think it works really well. I think it's also funny that, like, Sabo has like the flame fruit and you would have this like rain fruit. It's like, yeah, this is kind of really warm water. But yeah, there's there's been a bunch of YouTube videos on it. I think more is it a really good one about representing like other options potentially to like Vivi kind of representing potential rain god. But I do think that I think dragon represents it best. Like, it would be best if dragon has it. No, no. It makes a lot of sense, especially like getting dragons in the last panels of the picture towards the end of one piece. Dragon being this lore of, you know, besides. Besides him being Luffy's father, being a major player in attacking the world government. And again, it would hype dragon up even more because, again, people still making jokes. He's still standing. He's not doing nothing. But now these orders, like, don't dragon up a little more, especially giving him this fruit. It just adds. OK, it adds, you know, the phrase, the calm before the storm. Yeah. And again, I don't know if you bungled your theory with the dragon thing already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. So, like, you know, so all that ties into. They're like, you know. It's raining in Marine Forge, y'all. We got another 14 months at Nakama status From Josiji Umbra It says work week has been long Waiting for the pod Prayer hands and a heart emoji Appreciate you man Hope you were able to get through that work week Work week just started for most of us Another 5 From Senpain Featuring 6860 It says Is the emu fighting Loki Weaker than the one that took out Zoro and Saji If giving out omens gives someone his power Away then it should be the case Probably yeah I mean he's also faring Slightly worse You know what I mean He absolutely watched Zoro and Saji Which I don't think that really matters in the grand scheme for emu But like Loki's starting to land Loki is seemingly clashing in the distance in the latest chapters Creating hockey sparks And things like that I don't know I would assume There is some drawback To just giving out the omen powers I don't know I thought it was mostly him Like doing the whole Soul contract thing What he mentioned to the guards But even then They said that he can't just do that all the time Cause I remember I had a whole debate with Larry About I was like yo Like you can't just give this out to whoever he wants Larry's like why not And I was like yo There's gotta be some drawback And he kinda confirmed that Doing the covenants at least Took away from emu It affects him also I don't We don't know how Yeah I don't know if Omen does But I would think At least in this Version Okay Of how he's utilizing it Like I don't know It's like What was it Cell Jr Like he had to give up something for that Right Like he's not just full power all the time Once he did that Or was he I don't know It's different Cause like friends I mean I don't know Cause I know one day In Dragon Ball Why am I on Cell today I mean even more perfect I mean The fact that I was gonna say the Dragon Ball reference With Tien and stuff But They did say Cause even in the newest chapter They said like Emo King Would stay in the outside world For that long So I guess like They're surely showing that You know how powerful Emo is There's heavy limits On certain things That's affecting him Affecting him negatively That's the other piece too That I was gonna highlight That I forgot In general Like every second That Emo seemingly is out here He's weaker Like he's just getting Progressively weaker He's coughing up blood I don't know if that was from Moki Or just from the time limit Or whatever Or a combination of the two But like Like as he fights He's getting weaker Because he They've been highlighted He's not supposed to be here He's not supposed to be Outside of wherever He's normally at And that's what I'm thinking People think Oh this is bad You know Cause he's weak or whatever But my thing is Alright Would he be like Fully at his strongest 100% If he's just at The Holy Land You know And like If they fight him there Would that be 100% Emo Hopefully And I think that's That's better for me I like that Yeah yeah I'd rather have Emo At full strength Full strength Emo And lose Cause that's what I'm trying to confirm Like is it The transition Or is him leaving The Holy The you know The marriage Or is it The combination of both You leaving And the transformation But now if you Transformed And you're in The you know Marriage You're still You're good You're fine That's why I want to clarify Like Not clarify Cause I don't know the answer I want to know Okay Like that's what I want to know Guys quick programming update We're going to continue Super Chats For the next 15 minutes But at 7pm We will be getting Marv's top 10 Favorite characters In One Piece I don't even remember If that was the original Request for the list But that's what we got So I thought it was Top 10 strongest Was it strong? I swear I don't know that Marv Prepared that So We go on They said top 10 So Yeah It's either there You know Favorite Listen man Speaking of Marv We got another two That says From Wade the Asian Special appearance By Marv today Yes Marv will be coming in To do that Oh he's coming in? Oh no I ain't saying All that I'm just saying That's up to you I don't see another mic here Am I getting up? Marv what you want to do man? I'm going to just do it From here Okay That makes sense Listen I was going to Give you a call Listen I can take a bathroom break You know what I'm saying Alright We got another five From Luffy The King of the Pirates It says Happy break week y'all The goats Thank you Thank you Who do you like more Slash who's stronger Go Jetta Or Vegito Oh Oh I like Vegito more I think he's stronger I'm definitely Vegito Vegito's definitely stronger right? I think Vegito is I mean He's definitely cooler Yeah But it's not fair to say strong Because they could be the same strength Just alright 30 minutes are up and that's it It wouldn't make sense For one of them to be stronger Than the other Right Right But the timeline I will say Shouldn't the 30 minute limitation Make that one stronger? Nah Or am I tripping? No Because it's not the same As that people Why would it be different? You didn't get a power boost In the fusion dance It's like the Same exact thing Why isn't this one Coming out stronger? Who got the better resume? I don't think that matters Neither one of them Have a good resume To me I think This is a question Like who's stronger Vegito or Vegito? I mean Or I should say Who's stronger? Maja or Vegito At that time? Or The Vegito That was fighting Goku At that time? You know Because he fought Or whatever You know It's like You're like the same thing If anything The earrings Are stronger Or weaker I mean The earrings Have to be weaker Than the dance You think so? Yeah Well because The earrings Are the ones That are 30 minutes Right? No The dance The dance is 30 minutes The earrings are permanent And also too The earrings are supposed To be like divine Because aren't the kai Supposed to be like They're a divine figure Like they're Yeah they are divine Yeah so like In a way If you want to go by that It should be Vegito But I think they're just Vegito No I mean Vegito Vegito It should be They should be the same shape I don't see a difference The idea of fusing Was so cool When I first Like watched Dragon Ball It's so stupid Now that I think about it It's like As an adult The dance It's so dumb But the thing is Because we're going off The Gojeta Because there's only Two references I know It's the One from the Old movie When we first saw The fusion With Janemba or whatever Yeah Then there's the One with Broly Which you know Had a franchise That's showing But And they're doing GT as well But I'm seeing videos GT was horrible Yeah it was mad But I'm seeing videos Where I don't know when If this is canon or not But Or fan made That Vegito Is doing Something Similar to Gojeta He's going God Super Saiyan With blue hair And like Super Saiyan 3 With it And all that stuff I think that's Dragon Ball Heroes And it's not canon It's not canon Okay Yeah So that's Everything after The Boo Saga Ain't canon If we being real But Number five From Josie It says Love you guys man Also my middle name Is Lawrence And I thought it was crazy When I found out Larry and Law Share the same name as me Hashtag Topped on top Well I'm sorry To burst your bubble But Larry's name Is actually just Larry It's not It's not Lawrence It's actually Larry LaRamatha Simmons No there's two From Way of the Asian It says Is it too late For a twin takeover Y'all kicking me out It's crazy It's crazy Y'all kicking me out Twins was late Y'all even say that When Twins is late It's crazy If you do a Twin takeover One of these days If it happens again We should wear the The suit thing Oh I gotcha Yeah Definitely do that I'll show you later It's a twin thing I'm just gonna start Talking telepathically Is that gonna stream like that That's crazy Another five From Zateb Music It says I know Elbaf Was theorized To be Usopp's arc But to be honest I don't think There's a single Hockey ability Slash devil fruit That makes me Able to fight High tiers Wait who's this Usopp Fighting who And he's High slash top tiers I don't know why He's fighting top tiers Yeah It says high tiers It says high tiers Why It says to be high In the first place This is the Pirates Kings Usopp's being Nobody high We all know He's not getting Past the flying six So it's like You gotta go even Lower than there They're talking about What upgrade Could he get That would get him To fight A commander level Opponent A commander Higher than Higher than the Flying six Is there an upgrade Is there an upgrade Usopp can acquire That would allow him To fight Jack He needs to talk To Vegapunk man And get his hockey up Talk to Vegapunk And get his hockey up Talk to the smartest Man in the world And get your hockey up I'm getting serious bro He would have With the strong Strong fruit They go Hey Seuss burgers Fruit help I mean It would It's not realistic From the get though Yeah And honestly I don't know Does it help Usopp all that much Maybe his durability No Maybe his durability Be up Mate I will say this People have done The theorizing About the hammer If Ratatosk Is this Being That is choosing If it shows Usopp It would not That would have Allowed him to compete I'm just saying If it shows How would Usopp Be able to wield it I don't know The end The end I don't know The end It's probably bigger than him Biblo got Shrinking abilities If If If Ratatosk Was like Yo You fighting for Elbaf You believe in us That That would allow him to fight Commander level people And win Usopp With Ratatosk Could beat Jack And the The most fabulous summer escapes start here. of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house He could. He would. You mean Raditz Kasker would be Jack? That's right. Raditz Kasker would be Jack. Listen, if Loki beats Ibu right now because of Raditz Kasker's abilities, we're giving him that W, no? We're not going to take W. What? We're taking Ws away now because I'm jumping? This is because Loki earned it because he's taking attacks. Usopp's not taking attacks from Ibu. We've seen that. He did that. No, we didn't. Technically. In the most technical sense, Usopp already took an attack from Ibu. And he's still alive. Because he didn't pass? He alive. That's not taking it. I didn't say tank. It's a take. He didn't take it either. Yeah. He alive. Your definition of tank is. He took it. He alive. I knocked this dude out with one punch. He took it, though. Oh, he got knocked out, but he took it. Hold on. Yeah, exactly, bro. What are you talking about? You get knocked out from the punch. You didn't take the punch. You sleep. It's the gap between these people is Usopp and Ibu, right? You're not giving Usopp that? No. You're not giving survive feats for Usopp? No, I'm not. Y'all got Usopp on his high stand. You saw the tube state. So how I bobbed. Yeah, I bobbed. You saw I bobbed. Yeah, I can't. Listen, man. If Usopp that hammer, he gonna put numbers up. He needs all to do like that bubble thing. He needs every upgrade that. Bubble guns. The bubble guns that Vagabond was whipping out and more. See, he needs to talk to that revolutionary gadget guy that Dragon has. He just needs to. Vagabond and Hockey. He needs to lock in with Frankie. Like, actually lock in with Frankie and start enhancing his kit. Because Frankie got the tools. Yeah. Do you think. Wait, sorry. Do you think. No, I don't think I'm going to say. Never mind. Another 23 months at warlord status from Poe to Jesus, it says. Almost two years with the Nakama. And I can. Proudly say, topped is still on top. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. I pulled a god pack from Pokemon and got my favorite pod. God is good all the time. All the time. Thank you. That's pretty funny. We got another two from Polarize. It says, what's the most underrated character strength-wise? Underrated. As any character or just only one piece? I'm assuming they mean one piece. Underrated character. Underrated. Wait, so we're going to go, who do you think that's, or the community thinks that's underrated? Well, it would be underrated by the community. So I'm in the community pretty heavily, or at least I was at various times. This answer has fluctuated a lot. There's people that, like Saji, gets underrated for his strength. Mihawk gets underrated for his strength. Even in this community. Even in here. How? Yo. They believe. Yo, there's people that I tell you, yo, he couldn't have beaten Vista. You get what I'm saying? Couldn't? That's what I'm saying. As soon as I look on Reddit, the disrespect of the. Remember how, like, when Vista's like, I got him, something like that, and they clashed? Mm-hmm. There's panels of people mid-blading it and having Mihawk sweating like crazy. Yeah, yeah, bro. He had panels when he had, like, pretty much. I know we're a troll Mihawk kind of pod sometimes. It's bad, bro. The community does him so dirty. That's crazy. So I feel like it's a hand-in-hand thing, where, like, his fans go. As hard as they go, because he gets slandered so much. And the slander goes as hard as it goes, because the fans go as hard as they go. And I'm like, I just wanted to be somewhere in the middle. My actual answer is going to be disappointing to a lot of people, because it's going to sound like Glaze. It's Dofmingo. I feel like people discount what Oregon Damage is, and what he was fighting through. But that's me. That's my guy. He not top tier, but he high tier. I be seeing him place people above him that just don't belong there. So. I mean, to me, that's fair, though. I kind of agree with that. I mean, I don't know what people are saying about Dofmingo. But who do you have? I mean, I've heard names like Cracker easily washes him. I've heard names like Kuma easily washes him. Kuma? Yeah. I've heard these names. People in the chat are going to agree with me. I mean, easily is crazy. I don't understand. And I don't agree with Cracker, either. Like, it's a good fight, and surely he might have a little bit. Easily is. Yeah, easily is too much. It's a bad assessment on take on every single one. I'm telling you right now, unless you're like. I'm going to be real with you. I believe Dofmingo stops, like, you know. The Crackers. He stops Kuma, and as a person, he may even stop Cracker. He may even stop Cracker. Because I was there before, right? The highest level. His speed, his speed, yeah. So, what I saw, right? The highest level that we've seen Dofmingo able to stop, right? Third man. Yeah, is Jozu and Sanji Destrosa, right? Control, we see he's able to control Vice Amorals easily. But stopping-wise is Jozu level, right? Where do you rank Cracker? Is he around Jozu level, or is he stronger? You know? Because he's either going to stop, but either way, we also saw that in the fight, you can get weak into work where he does stop you. You know? And my thing is also, I would say, Lawrence is right. I'm not, but also it matters, I think, the hockey team, or hockey mission out of it. As in, for instance, one point, Luffy was fighting Dofmingo. He didn't get stopped at all. He didn't get controlled. Only to Luffy's weakest point, when they were fighting, that he got controlled by Dofmingo. But guess what happened when Luffy went gear four? He broke out of it. Yeah. So, there's a possibility that Cracker, Diamond Joe's, and all these people, if they unleashed their hockey, they could just break out of Dofmingo's strengths. So, again, I. All of you would. Easy Dofmingo is the Yonko in higher. I don't even say the Admiral's fully, um, easily. Like, maybe, maybe. Maybe. Calm it down, dog. Maybe, but like, hey. See, see, calm it, calm it down. How? Calm it down. I'm just saying, bro. Okay. I'm just saying. They didn't really show there was a big gap between. I have no Admiral slander today. That's not slander. I'm just saying, like, yo, Dofmingo's astral, like, even Admiral would probably struggle a little bit. I don't think. I don't think he would dare. To my knowledge, what I've seen, wouldn't, like, easily take out Dofmingo. Probably even, like, a mid close to a high. But I'd say more mid. I'd say more mid. That's not slander. Don't give me that shit, man. You used to think Admiral's were more on Yonko level. I know. The big difference. They called it a Dofius. Listen. Load this. Another five. That's my guy. Another five from the FedEx guy. Would you like it better if Oda did not put a cap on the amount of Nakama for the Straw Hats? Or is it cap. Or is it. Off? Or is capping it off at ten a better choice? I definitely think it's a better choice because I love Oda. I love how he writes. I love his writing style. I think one of my bigger knocks, at least post-time skip, has been his inability to keep storylines concise. If we had all these members, we're already not getting enough from Nami. We're already not getting enough. From some of the side characters. Like, some of the other Straw Hats. If we added a bunch of other characters to this, like, we had. If we had, like, 15 deep. Like, Oda's just gonna have a. He's gonna struggle juggling all of that. From arc to arc. You know? Like, he'd have to see more separations of, like, where we saw Sanji end up going to Whole Cake and then half the crew. Sanji ended up going to Zoe and then half the crew went with him. We'd start seeing more of that. And I don't know that we'd love that. Right? So, I don't know. I think his writing is just better with the crew being more compact and concise like this. I'd love to see more people maybe interact with each other. With the Straw Hats on a day-to-day. I'd love to see more from the existing Straw Hats that we have now than I would to see more Straw Hats. I don't necessarily believe in capping at 10. Like, 12 is probably where I think he could get to. Where it would still work. Do you think there's gonna be at least two more or a little more characters joining the crew or not? I mean, I was next character for next Nakama. I was that person. And I still believe Smoker has an opportunity. But it's about the writing. Anyway. But in general. Oda needs to be able to actually give people plot lines. Actually give people character development and things like that. He's already not doing that great with that. We'll see how he lands the Brooke stuff in this arc. We'll see how he lands the Usopp stuff in this arc. We'll see how he lands the Chopper stuff in this arc. We're excited to see that because we don't see it. How long has it been since Usopp was a relevant member of the storyline? How long has it been since Brooke was a relevant member of the storyline? Fishman Island, I think. Brooke. Brooke. Yeah, you're right. And Usopp, Deserosa, I think. Yeah. That's like 10 years ago. Was it really? Oh my gosh. What? It's 2026. That was like 2016. That's crazy. Yeah, I feel like we struggled too much with the crew that we got now. That was an amazing one. Yeah. All right, it's 7. We'll take a pause on the Super Chats. Marv. Are you ready to do your top 10? Top 10 favorite characters in One Piece, man? Yes. Yes, I'm ready. are you going in order like yeah from what uh go 10 down go 10 down yeah it's gonna ruin my whole presentation okay i had like a whole powerpoint actually actually no no i i think going to yeah you're probably right it would be more entertaining that way okay okay so yeah you have a powerpoint no not i just have notes okay but um all right so um just to like set the stage i i don't power scale i'm not good at knowing who's stronger than who and i also um am more concerned with characters who i deem cool rather than you know he just has a been you know he plays a big part in the story you know what i mean okay so so like just to think about it my favorite movie of all time is ferris bueller's day off i just think it's a cool movie you can put it on in the background while you're doing other stuff and look at the screen cool stuff's happening uh my favorite x-men is gambit just because another he's just pretty cool he's a cool guy and my favorite actor is brad pitt because i just think he plays cool characters okay i just saw f1 for the first time i haven't seen that yet i want to see it it's cool all right so yeah that's that's my kind of uh rubric for picking my favorite characters and i went with top 10 favorite because i didn't remember if you guys asked for favorite or strongest but i just went with favorite because it's easier for me okay so at number 10 i have kaido and um i like kaido because the first time i saw him i was like oh this guy actually looks like a threat whereas other one-piece villains will have like some cartoonish element to them i feel like when oda designed kaido he was like i actually want to make this guy look scary and like like a big threat so i like that he's uh super intimidating he's huge he can turn into a dragon um you know he gave luffy a run for his money he one-shot luffy right yeah so yeah i like kaido that's probably my favorite villain um then i gotta go with ace at number nine and yeah there's not much to say about it other than yo ace is just really cool yeah no i love ace his death was perfect oh and that made me love him more yeah and uh you guys actually spoiled his death for me not on this podcast but when you were on another podcast and you said that he got turned into a donut yeah okay but yeah that's a i think he's just a really cool cool dude um at number eight i have viola and okay she's just a baddie man okay okay can you say listen um the vision wouldn't scare you the ability to look into your mind wouldn't i would be turned on by that i would actually like that you know what i like yeah you ain't gotta explain much okay um i have at number seven i have boa it's kind of similar reasons but also okay i just think she's probably the best drawn woman in in one piece uh at number six i have law trafalgar d water law okay full government yes um i like the hats i he's i think he's based on jamiroquai yes and i love the jamiroquai's music so shout out to law uh at number five i have roger and not so much because of his cool factor but just that he like represents classic pirate cinema and i like when we see uh something very american like shown through the eyes of a japanese creator so pirates are not like a japanese thing i mean at least that i know of and roger's very much designed like a classic swashbuckling pirate from a you know an old vintage movie so i always like that about him uh at number four i have luffy and luffy's definitely just about like following your dreams and like laughing at the face of death or or uh you know uh he's just about chasing your dreams at like at any cost and like no one's gonna tell him otherwise like nothing you could say is gonna stop him from doing what he wants to do so that's definitely cool uh now to the top three uh at number three i have carrot and carrot wow okay carrot i like because she she's a fighter like i like i like tifa from final fantasy 7 because she's a fighter and i like care for the same reason in a world where everyone's doing magic and there's swords and all these power beams you just scrap it with people she can turn too long and i was gonna get to that okay she does digivolve into uh there's a very similar looking character in digimon season three if you guys know it uh it's called renamon it's like it's a it's a fox character like but drawn very you know furry-ish you know what i mean so carrot okay carrot has that look to her too yeah renamon it's like a it's a fox digimon yeah i've seen i've seen this before okay at number two i have brooke okay brooke has like a uh emotional backstory with laboon he also uh has some connection to gunko which i think is pretty cool too if it turns out that he's a great uh if he was like a secret service person for like a princess type of thing i think that would be cool uh but i just like that he plays music he reminds me of one of my best friends will they have like very similar personalities okay very similar interesting will is brooke huh yeah for sure okay for sure that's a good one and then at number one i have frankie i like frankie because he's like a mix of ace ventura and uh i think frankenstein i think that's where the name comes from because frankenstein is like a man-made monster yeah with parts of different things and that's what frankie kind of has uh i like that he's a builder and i like building stuff i built the whole studio and i can relate a lot to being like the shipwreck fixing things so and he's just cool the soda i like when he turned into a minotaur the the legs you need to bring that back yeah you need to bring that back that was the minotaur with the legs in reverse that we went in front of him is hilarious that's probably my uh i found that the funniest moment for me in the whole show funniest characters yeah but yeah that's my that's my top 10 there okay sorry for the wait guys no no listen we appreciate the effort you put into that marv they're calling you a gooner which is sad because he he had a couple girls on the list what's what's wrong with like i don't see the problem with that yeah you gotta have a little bit of it yeah you know balanced human being uh surprising no zorro i'm not gonna lie i feel like most top 10s at one piece will have zorro in there at some point zorro's like number 11 he's like okay i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie i'm not gonna lie okay okay they're saying it was well worth the wait so yeah i don't know marv that frankie's supposed to be based off america like a few american people oh yeah yeah yeah because i thought it's a little funny what odin did with the whole you know why frankie's nose is like that no because like he's supposed to be like the beach person that's supposed to be someone who puts the sunblock that's why he has like the speedo the first time we see him in the hawaiian show yeah i get it yeah i dig it i like when japanese people translate american stuff like that okay like taking a shot at us but it's like it's also like true most of the time yeah all right marv i gotta ask you who in one piece do you think is dominican wow i gotta ask it would be frankie it would be he's concerned with his physique he's always dressed like he's going to the beach he has a like a lingo most dominicans have like a catchphrase so you think that's malta's he's drinking yeah yeah for sure for sure he's definitely the most dominican for sure he's always dancing oh he's dancing well no the w's in the chat for marv man appreciate the list i had to ping him this morning like yo it's going to be three of us low larry and get that list ready he was like oh stop thank you thank you so appreciate you marv um they're throwing random names in here they said apu is dominican i see it apu yeah i can see that viola is colombian for sure yeah okay okay what was the list again just one more time okay so just a quick rundown uh 10 kaido uh nine ace um viola number eight uh boa number seven law six roger five luffy four carrot three brook two one frankie all right w list for marv man w list all right thank you thank you all right guys like the stream you guys haven't already it does help with the youtube i want to get back into super chats i did want to rattle off this little mini theory that i have um kind of excited to share this one it's not too long hopefully larry doesn't think i'm tripping or uh does the little doesn't add it for me um but yeah this one's about garling and his potential future in the story so what if garling is not mary joa's greatest loyalist but its future traitor because the more i look at saint figerling garling the more he feels like one piece's tywin lannister think about it garling has spent his life rising through the holy land's power structure from a rising upstart eager to showcase his value to the higher ups by revealing the hidden home of the davy clan to competing for glory in the celestial dragons hunting competition at god valley to becoming the supreme commander of the holy knights and executing celestial dragons who falter in their belief that they are gods to becoming the obvious candidate to replace saturn as a member of the gorosei the highest circle of authority he is now sitting closer to the center than almost anyone meanwhile tywin lannister did exact the exact same thing in westeros he stayed right beside the throne as hand of the king not because he loved eris but because proximity to power is power and when the end came for the mad king tywin switched sides he waited until eris was vulnerable marched on king's landing and got the gates opened and then sacked the city because betrayal had become more useful than loyalty now look at garling emo announces a temporary departure from the holy land and garling does not feel like a man terrified by that he isn't panicking over emu leaving the way the other gorosei seem to if anything he feels like someone fully prepared to operate in that vacuum in fact when emu decides that the holy land would be left in their hands during his absence garling responded by reminding the other elders that they had no authority to stop their ruler that can be read as pure obedience on the surface but in a but in a theory sense it can also read like a man who's very comfortable operating in that absence that emu creates operating in that opening that emu creates and that matters because of saturn saturn at saturn's end saturn's end strongly suggests that the gorosei's monstrous longevity is tied directly to emu's power as emu removed saturn's to him saturn began to wither away to decay it was like if he was no longer it was as if he was no longer living through that connection saturn seemed to revert back to what he would have been if he had lived a normal life just bones so if emu fails falls or if or even if his connection weakens the old guard may share the same fate odds are they would not survive if emu can no longer sustain them they would decay just like saturn did and if the old immortal regime falls who's left standing garling yes garling is now a member of the gorosei but compared to emu's to them he appears to still be in his actual natural age if emu died garling likely would not be reduced to ash he would simply go back to being the man he was prior to his promotion and that's the theory garling may be doing exactly what taiwan did with eris serve the throne for years rise as high as possible wait for the moment the regime becomes unstable and then make sure house figgerland is the one that inherits what's left that's also makes the family parallel even crazier obviously garling is shemrock would be jamie the son who stayed inside the system and remains loyal for the most part to his father's wishes jamie was a gold cloak and one of the king's guard while shemrock acts as commander of the god's knights likely promoted alongside his father shanks would be tyrian the alcoholic outcast fan favorite hated by his father who will end up mattering much more than the obedient son ever did shanks and shemrock like jamie and tyrian are also motherless sons albeit for very different reasons tywin loved joanna while garling likely didn't even remember magnolia's name before taking her life himself and there lies the difference between garling and tywin to me tywin is meticulous and cunning but ultimately he is still human garling feels almost completely void of humanity which makes true loyalty to emu feel less and less likely in the end so what if garling isn't trying to protect or secure emu's ideal world what if he's waiting for the perfect moment to do what garling did to the mad king stay loyal until loyalty stops paying then betray the throne before the throne buries you that would make garling not just a celestial dragon it would make him mary joie's tywin lannister as little finger once said chaos is a ladder and garling seems and garling has seemingly climbed that ladder to a rung just below the very top people say i glaze blackbeard but really anyone willing to use chaos to rise is going to be a favorite of mine and garling seems to be a true climber will he be able to position the figureland family at the top and take the throne or will he end up like tywin destroyed by the very son he failed to understand what y'all think now i know you didn't watch game of thrones so you might not have a real gauge of everything i'm saying right now but lawrence you did and i'm sure you did as well barf so i would love to hear you guys's thoughts on that one do you y'all see garling as a potential tywin character so it's interesting how you put it like for example because uh tywin was like scheming in a way trying to always move forward like the entire time to uh the legend and everything right but to this one is more like how you put for garling is more like he's capitalizing not trying to scheme against emu because i don't think i feel like there's a permanent loyalty like what we saw with uh harold there you have to be loyal especially how long he's been there is that there but it's more like all right since emu's gone now someone else has to take power and it's like you're kind of almost like furthering or continuing emu's reign through you or what you want to do your version of it your vision of it because it happened so i can see that different than him like necessarily betraying emu you know it's more like all right because who else would i don't think emu emu's in a way to rule for like ever yeah i mean even in the way i presented it opportunistic yeah where it's like all right what do i what if emu does get taken out i'm just positioned to take over right and i might want that i might even advocate for it i might finesse to make it happen right but it's not outright betrayal in the way that somebody else might tywin did technically outright betray eris but it was really just because he saw the writing on the wall after reygar got taken out at the trident so but marv what do you what are you thinking man yeah i completely agree i think that um i don't think he would i think he would control from the shadows like tyrian let me not tyrian like um what's the name again tywin tywin yeah like tywin he'd puppeteer i think that's the the perfect word to call what tywin was but yeah i dig it sounds cool yeah so some very loose parallels i made there you know shanks and tyrian and shamrock and jamie maybe right that would be cool i was wondering if they will have a uh cersei like a sister or something um i mentioned magnolia i had to look up the girl name because i completely forgot it she's only on one panel right yeah maybe two i don't know um but yeah uh i think i think that's what we could be headed towards because again if if emu does get taken out and all the gore say go out and i'm like i'm all that's left i would just automatically become the guy which is just interesting and i also thought i was going to add this to the story too but like i feel like we see a change in how aggressive garling has been over time we're like when we first see him he's like hey i want to look good for the bosses like yo i found this then the great one will be pleased and now he's like yo listen to my orders man like he's like strolling in because he's been rising in the ranks so i don't know i could see i can definitely see some of that stuff for garling i just don't know if oda would exactly go that route like if he would prefer that garling is just like a loyal servant to emu or if he wants it to be in this way where he's trying to position the figureland family up because if i remember correctly in that chapter i was referencing one of the first things that garling says like oh my son handled that like he wants to make it like my family is handling business so the only way i can see it is more like we kind of get an emu like not to continue it but it's like emu has to be taken out the right way right as in like from that and then it's not like oh we just got to get an emu we just we we control the world now it's like all right but garling because everyone else passes because of it or whatever but garling's still alive somehow so then he tries to like keep fighting you know like if that's the case but then again dude but usually only difference is like oda's writing remember i told you before like i said a while back he usually has the um the straw other straw hats kind of like uh defeat their enemy before like luffy's the last someone else that kind of implies that garling may be taken out the right way right as in like oh my son handled taking out the forehead you know emu and luffy are the last people standing or he was the last person the piece that i hated about it the most to be honest is that you know me i'm a big shanks gets taken out by blackbeard guy you know to me if we're gonna have garling have this level of central focus into like this story if he's gonna be plotting on the throne then it needs to be a some like spoilers sorry for anybody who hasn't actually finished game of thrones or whatever but like tyrian's the one who takes out tywin right so it's like would shanks be the one who has to do that to handle his situation with his father or like is shamrock a complicit you know what i mean like i was i was really kind of deciding whether i wanted to go deeper into like what shamrock's role in all this could be is he like actively trying to support this is he is it going to be a fight for the throne between them you know but just don't have a lot to work on now i just saw the parallels a little bit and then i saw that oh you got the two sons shanks and tyrian outcasts like they drink a lot i kind of see it you know what i mean so not not not too much very loose parallels but i definitely saw something but you think but you're saying as if um like it actually happens do you still think it could still possibly like garling is doing it and like you know making news but he doesn't end up betraying emu or emu ends up finding out what garling's actually doing technically i would only need like a conversation between shamrock and garling to confirm the willingness for this or the game planning for it versus him actually like take sitting on the throne you know what i mean like i wouldn't necessarily need him to succeed in this like tywin technically never sits on the iron throne that's not true either but he never is the king but he controls he controls it he controls the lannister family essentially controls the kingdom controls the seven kingdoms at one point for depending on robert bradley and thing is but yeah like he runs the kingdom so i'm wondering if now that emu's like away like will he kind of step up in that light will emu actually get taken out where it's okay yeah the figuring family's at the top i i the other reason why i don't like it because the way i implied it is that if emu loses all the gorosei get taken out at the same time i kind of as crazy as that would be as a like a moment in the series i don't like the idea that six top tiers just got wiped off the map like what is the series now what is the where's the antagonists now you know um but it'll be crazy especially when you have like all this building up like certain people might be fighting who like clearly clearly oldest to me setting up again we could be wrong we could be wrong because we thought certain things before the certain setups like and we even now you thought all right shepherd's gonna fight sanji or whatever yeah because also like you know we thought all right zoe's gonna fight ethan juro but we also thought zoe's gonna fight if we talk because we thought there's there's charge gonna fight the animals how things change now we're just like all right what fights are we gonna get like the only concrete fights we know we're gonna get out is like you know louis versus emu zone versus you know mihawk like you know like luffy versus blackman like those are the ones we know but those are like concrete but there's other ones that we're like we're assuming but because now you thought all right luffy's fighting uh kainu either sanji and he's either fighting kizaru or akiji or zoe's fighting you know alkeji it goes on like that we thought all right we're going to destroy the fight the three animals like the three i'm the three monster trio three animals that really changed we still might have it because all right food story is a surgeon it makes sense sanji's fast with light or whatever and now we're still questioning are we even gonna get that no like we don't i don't think we might not even get the animals versus threats because how food store is with the with the marines already and with the world government so just like so now we need that i don't know man so that's i'm just saying uh i think it's impossible you still could get it because the way fuji is but he's still allied with them yeah he still follows their orders and everything and right now he's still actually hunting the straw hats like he can't come back until he brings back like was it law and um luffy was it or something like that he can't come back because akaino's older right you know he's just trying to change from this because he sees a need you know but he still is only repping them so we're going to have to wait and see what happens so we still have an avenue for that it just changed because now we see it would be fuji vs zero still who does green bull fight honestly it's going to be either jim or somebody else like with the straw hats because the only person i can think of it's jim bay or loki or yamato that's that's because like sato is it saji not fighting kizaru or am i wrong i don't know that's i don't he already crying after taking out like vega punk bro like is he gonna stay 10 toes down and fight like i don't know anymore i've wanted this the admirals versus straw has since forever i just i don't know when he shook up the dynamic because i know if you already think it's i was fighting a guy there and you hate that i can't i haven't even thought of that oh some people think dragon may be fighting a kind of like because they're the same age do you like that more or it's it's but sure all right it's the same right it's better than salvo bro absolutely just saw water here oh dude oh because ace i get it now but that's the theory y'all like the stream if you haven't already we're going to jump back into super chats and i want to say thank you to all the people who have been sending um gifts um i don't know exactly what they are but like tokens and stuff that are coming in thank you guys for that i saw a couple come in so really appreciate it like jewels and stuff i don't know what the monetary value of that stuff is but i'll have to do some research but thank you guys um another two from guts bb it says for the twins where do y'all have loki ranked right now so to me i still stand by where i ranked him in the top 30 right i don't i don't remember what number it was but i put him around luffy level you know if that helps unless you do you want i don't know if you want a number but that's like that's like top 30 you know whatever well i put him around luffy level and i i even argued he it's possible they could be stronger than even luffy i argue i think i argued that he was strong i think he's a little stronger yeah so like that's that's why i put him out like kind of like luffy level or even above mostly because like you know besides him being asian giants and like whatever and but good i have to like for for certain things i feel like you have to upscale them like i already said like besides him being an asian giant but now he has like you know uh legendary mythicals on food like luffy that's similar to not i'm par with job or anika but like it's showing like this it's up there with him yeah and now he has this crazy weapon hammer that you know it's like a has element powers too just like all right and it's like oh to us that's like a supreme grade hammer you get me it's a supreme grade weapon yeah it might even be above that and it's like exactly because it's capable and it was already in the network with the ability so we are ranking them and mark where are you ranking them we we throwing you into power scaling conversations too okay where is loki right actually i'm gonna look at them and y'all thomas i would probably wake him to like right now probably like mid to high yonko level because i still gotta see more like i think he could rival like the big names i don't know if i could say concrete that he will beat them so you're saying top ten but you don't know how far into that ten years yeah okay yeah like i'm not mad at a loki top ten i feel like that's valid because the special singing plus again he's getting hit with ema when he's fighting back like that's so like that's why i have to scare him up there like you know that's about to call me crazy top five and he's not five he's top five alive right now oh you're alive when you sit down i think of the whole the whole bro so the whole thing yeah yeah i think yeah he's not no bro he's not to my knowledge not not yet now yeah he's not a tie five in the one piece verse the problem is you you told me all the time now you're talking about nico exactly joy boy but if you're going to live yeah exactly exactly people will tell you he's stronger than garrison members right now okay or weaker so i had him it's hard to judge i have loki number wise i had him at a 95. and i had luffy at a 94 so i had him above actually i had him at first i had luffy loki if you want to number wise i had him at a 95. so okay if that helps people marv um i have him right above luki luffy okay yeah but i will say this when i first saw him he really reminded me of um you remember dexter's laboratory they had like a side show where the superheroes were living together yeah and they had a character called uh van holland yes he reminds me of van holland so on the cool factor he's pretty he's pretty cool he's up there can he crack your top ten yeah he can well no no probably 12. 12. okay he's after zoro but when i read him in the manga i read him in that voice that same character that show was so funny well that's his laboratory was great but that little side show they had was gold yeah yeah all the side shows of the monkey and the secret agents all right another five from wise life gaming it says if all og yonko were kids 10 to 12 years old and had a brawl who would come out as the winner i low-key got kaido crying emoji hashtag lionel gbt hashtag sebi schwan hashtag mukbang law i got big mom was gbt me it's like chat gbt that's he's saying lionel yeah like your ai bot oh yeah that's what i was thinking but i wasn't sure about the cgi yeah so that goes so that's og ammo so that's whitebeard shanks big mom and kaido to one to one so we're just doing two we're doing 10 to 12 years old i have big mom 10 to 12 10 to 12. yeah i got big mom when she was like eight or whatever she was slapping she was taking out entire giant villages casually i got a big mom you know i got a big mom they're all the ones they don't want they don't got the little kid feets like that for real they don't they don't big mom was a powerhouse or whatever but again i'm trying to think of kaido bro he was taking out kingdoms by himself around he was like what eight years old or ten them kingdoms wasn't el bat villages but they're good it was only three i get you but again you big mom's feet is old people and kids like that's that's very giant i guess you but like she also had her devil for me this time for for a few years now no she didn't 10 to 12 is what we're saying yeah you're right she has like it's big it's a big bomb the fact you can argue this time for a few years now no she didn't 10 to 12 is what we're saying yeah you're right she has like it's big it's big mom the fact you can argue this time for a few years now no she didn't 10 to 12 is what we're saying that she was doing it before pre pre-ability it's big mom like i know i'm the big mom hater it's big mom bro it's probably big mom she has her devil fruit she has the impenetrable skin she's strong as hell she's taking out elbow giants she's the one called the natural born disaster or destroyer like it's big one she temper tantrums on them it's ggs bro it's big i guess you're bummed because it's big good i don't know because but all of them my point is all of them like fight like white you remember how white people was a kid with his harvard winning kaito all were fighting and doing something at a kid age like already i'm not mad at them putting up a fight i'm just saying i know who winning i wanted to throw odin here because he loki has the second best like or most comparable like super young feats. But he wasn't. He wasn't a young girl. But he was with all his swords. He was quick. But he wasn't. When we saw him doing that stuff, it wasn't when he was like 10 or 12, right? He was older. Well, his feats started coming earlier than that. But the ones we started getting from the people was him as a teenager. But he was already doing something like five. Yeah, remember he picked up a boulder and killed a bear? Yeah. When he was like, what, four or five years old? Or three. But we saw. We saw, was it Ace? The, um. What was it? Uproot a tree with one kick and take out a tiger. And that tiger was huge. Let's keep Ace out of these conversations. No, I mean. You're talking about. You're talking about that. I get what you're saying. I was going to say we can get Loki in here. No, no. But you brought Ace up. No, the reason why I say this, you know how strong I'd be to de-root a tree with one kick? In One Piece? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. In the One Piece world. It's One Piece, bro. Like, that's nothing. But also, the stuff in the One Piece world seems to be kind of like ridiculous. Like, you know, it's like a stronger world. They say, dang, Ace is bad. Ace is bad. He's not boxing at this level, bro. No, I'm not putting him on that level. I'm not putting him on that level. I'm just using that as an example. Because, like, picking up a boulder and smashing a line, in the One Piece world, these kids kind of show this crazy, ridiculous. Y'all are going to call me wild for even bringing this man up. Can we get Momo in here? Stop. What did he do? He ate right now, right? Shut up. No. That's his fault. With the grown man body, with the. That's just cheating. I'm cheating. He's got Odin's body right now, bro. That's a full grown man. It's his body. And it also was Kaido's ability at eight years old. Yo, get out of here. But wait a minute. His body. You got to give him another two years. Another ten to ten to another four years. His mind is eight. His body is 20. Yeah. Nope, that sounds weird. Okay, Big Mouth's body was whatever, bro. She's grown. That sounded crazy. Anyway. Yeah, I know it did. That sounded crazy. That sounded crazy. I'm going to stop. So we all agreeing with Big Mouth? I'm going with Big Mouth. I think she's smoking them, bro. What is that? Okay. All right. We need to get another ten gifted memberships from David Yokes and another ten gifted memberships from Project Iceman. So thank you guys. Throw the knock on my fist up or our new emojis in the chat. We really appreciate y'all. Another five from Creative Broccoli. It says, could be cool if Vivi is the one to gather the Straw Hat Grand Fleet by using Morgans to put the word out. Plus, Emu killed her dad. So, you know. That would be pretty cool. Like, the OG almost joined. How does she know that they, that they, like, you know, exist? I don't know. She can know they exist, right? How does she get word out to them specifically? I think that's an easy part, like Morgans. No, but I mean, like, what is, what is the, like, how would they know? Like, would it be Straw Hat Grand Fleet come here? Like, you know how Luffy did the 3D2Y? Like, is there a secret coded method? How would they know whatever, the message is? Is it a straw hat? Yeah. Like a picture of a straw hat. I don't know how that works. Incontinence. I don't know. Pretty cool. It made me think back to Vivi reading the newspaper of Luffy when he did a 3D2Y. Yeah. And seemingly, she tried to do the same thing with the X. Yeah, yeah. And it's funny that only the Straw Hats that wouldn't know what that means saw that. Yeah. Pretty cool. It's funny, because you think, you think Vivi's going to be like, yo, they don't care. Because they didn't react. They didn't, they didn't come, they didn't. So, I don't know. I don't know what her actual message was. Was it that I'm safe? Like, I don't know what it is. So, Robin didn't see it. I mean, I know she, Robin saw it, but she wasn't on the ground. Right, okay. Yeah, yeah. Like, she was like, on the ship. She was up at the time. Like, even when they did the thing, she was on the ship and maybe saw it, but it's like, but my thing is, why would, did, did, like, because they know, like, she was there, she knows relatively their relationship with Vivi. Do you think it would be bad on her part for not somehow mentioning it to them? Like, y'all know Vivi did this. Well, they've had, I'll say this. In Robin's defense, since they've been on this island, she's reunited with Saul and all hell has broken loose. She hasn't had time. Okay. She's like, hey, Vivi might have said something. Yeah, she hasn't known that Vivi did it because remember, the markings on the picture of Nika's arm. Yeah. So, she could have shown attention. Also, yeah, there's a, like, they talk about the newspaper. It could be like, yeah, and we saw this, there's an X on, there's something that you had X on your arm. Technically, Robin would have no reason to even put two and two, like, correlate this to Vivi at all. Yeah. She pointed it out, but, then now, when you think we're going to find, like, because that's an old newspaper now, right? I mean, it'll play the role it needs to play, right? I don't think it's like, oh, that didn't happen. But she saw it in Elbatha, right? On the way to Elbatha. On the way to Elbatha, I don't, yeah. I think it actually is still fun, yeah. All right, another two from David Yokes. It says, do y'all think Emu scarred Loki, or is he just too durable? Um, it's funny. This is something that made me think of something else, but, in the world of One Piece, people like Kaido, like, can't be scarred, but they got tattoos. So, I don't know, man. I don't know. Loki also has tattoos. So, um, those are hockey tattoos, you know. I will say the fact that he was stabbed tells me he probably isn't scarred. Maybe I'm tripping for that, but I feel like in One Piece, when people get stabbed through, like, it's not a scar there, it's typically from a slash. Or am I? Which is weird. It's like, it doesn't make any sense, but like, that's just kind of how it works. I've seen Zorg get stabbed a bunch of times, and he don't got no scars, but the one time he got really scarred is the slash. Because he should have, he had some, pretty much some scars from Mr. One, but he doesn't have any. Yeah, like, like Kaido got, like, ran through with blades, like, a couple times, and he didn't have nothing, and then it's like, oh, I got it. The only one I can say that Zorg's getting stabbed and got scars is what he did to himself. Remember? Mm-hmm. His ankles, he was, like, cutting his ankles. Well, I don't think he was stabbed. He was stabbed by cutting his ankles off. Because he has scars. He's on my little guard? Yeah. He might, I don't know. Because I don't know which one he was doing, but he has a scar from me. But I don't know if he was stabbing or slicing. Okay. I think it would've been a little loose from the scarring. Well, with the scars. Yeah, exactly. Because I think scarring kind of means something in one piece to a degree. It's not like, you can just. It's almost like you've stood up to make the permanent damage. Yeah. You know? We got another 25 months at Yonko status from Left Lane John Wayne. It says, in my opinion, Lionel's Odin takes are the most accurate on the pod. But Law, let's hear it. Let's hear how he's wrong. Hashtag Odin over Shanks. Hashtag Mars 10. Hashtag Larry, come back. Larry, they miss you. Okay. Lionel's Odin takes are the most accurate. I want to clarify. I never said Odin over Shanks. The only argue I got, and Aminu and I talked in conversation before, that I bunged up. The point I was saying was like, I'm not saying Odin over Shanks or Odin strolling these guys. If you go back to my previous conversation, I never once said that. I said that the game is at a gap level or Baxter's saying it's mid-diff or people were just thinking Odin's weaker than them when the manga or narrative is saying otherwise. And this is what I said to Lawrence. I said, and this is what I said, I don't see the gap but it didn't make sense to me. I said this to Lawrence. I said, so Odin, you know, goes to Wano. I mean, I said Odin. Whitebeard goes to Wano. Again, this is eight years after God Valley. Whitebeard was 36. He is 44 now. A lot closer to Pirate King level wherever in his prime with Odin saying whatever. He's a lot closer. Right? Odin meets Whitebeard around that time. Again, eight years after God Valley, a lot closer to Pirate King level in his prime and clashes with Odin with Whitebeard. Oh, Whitebeard senses Odin's strength and says something dangerous, whatever. Right? And we see the, to my knowledge, when you talk about conquerors, they fight or clash, there's always more to it. I don't think it was just a clash with Odin and Whitebeard. We only saw them clash, but it's obviously something that led to it, but my point is owning it, get blown back by that clash. He didn't get sent flying. The anime made it, he got one shot. We didn't even know what happened. We saw that they clashed and Whitebeard recognized his strength. He even called him brother afterwards. Right? And that's Pirate, that's prime Whitebeard when they actually fought later on or not. Right? But later on again, Odin travels with Whitebeard four years, whatever, then he meets the fifth year or whatever, I forget, he sees the Roger Pirates. Again, Odin goes there and texts on the Roger Pirates. You know, again, I don't like using it because I'm not saying this happened, but Odin is the second strongest on the crew. Who both acknowledge that? Rayleaf and Gabon. Before Roger stepped in, Rayleaf and Gabon were going to fight Odin themselves. Either at the same time or they acknowledge that they have to handle him. Roger jumps in, attacks Odin, and sends him flying. Again, Odin, it was divine departure, Odin got hit with it, blocked or whatever. Odin's still good, he didn't get taken out one hit. Roger was still holding back, but my point is, Roger fights Whitebeard afterwards. Again, we already saw, my point is, we already saw at Gad Valley that so many people interacted with each other. We saw Whitebeard and Roger interact with each other. We saw Garb interact with Whitebeard, Big Mom, and Kaido. So that interaction clearly happened and there wasn't three days of fighting because Roger and Whitebeard probably fought for three days. Who did Odin and Lexi encounter in those three days? Either Rayleaf and Gabon because, again, they were going to fight him before Roger. In the anime, I think it shows them fighting Gabon. Yeah, yeah. And we saw that Gabon is also probably one of the Yonkos who rivaled Kaido and Big Mom and stuff just like Rayleaf could. that he mostly fought them. Again, I'm not saying three days long. And again, I'm not saying that Odom's saying that, oh, it had to be combined and ready. I don't believe that crap. My point is they both acknowledge that Odom was a threat. Whether they both fought him at the same time or fought individually, my point is Odom was fine. I'm not saying he beat him or whatever. I'm saying Odom was fine. He held his own. He didn't die. He didn't pass. He held his own and survived those fights. So he survived the sacrifice from Whitebeard, who's in his prime. He survived an attack from Roger in his prime. God, Pirate King level, Roger. And the boiling. And he fought Gabon and Rayleaf, who we argued who's closer to what? You don't know who you fought, Gabon and Rayleaf. Yeah, but it's clearly implied, heavily implied. You're saying he fought one of them. At least one of them. Yeah, you're saying he fought both. At least one of them, give or take. And I'm saying we already saw Rayleaf is a, again, Yonko level legendary pirate, that they even compared his King, disposition, whether old or young, to chances that they, me for the word, not me for, Fishman Island, that they both would have knocked out all 100. Or whether or not he gets his hype. And now we're seeing a little bit more of Gabon hype, that people even thinking Gabon is stronger than Rayleaf. But my point is, Odom faces them all in their prime. And he's okay. So I'm thinking, Odom, again, and you go, again, Roger and Whitebeard are stronger than Shanks now. And he only, some people argue that they're not, but that's, I don't, whatever. But like, my point is, an oldest King was shown at the ceiling and like how, and everybody would not recognize his strength. Shanks is well, he's run that close to the level. Where's the gap that you guys are saying? Where's the, again, I'm not saying there's not a gap. There could be a gap, but it's not mid to low gap. I'm going to say it's either high to extreme diff. Cause that's what the mangoes told me. That's what the mangoes told me. That's what the main author is portraying to be shown through word, through action, through narrative and what we saw. So that's something that I don't understand that owns this much weaker. When he's fought, he fought the primes, the legendaries himself. And he was good. He was okay. And he literally fights kind of who's no monster. It always takes them out. Who's the same age of Shanks now. So just again, where's the gap? Where do I see it? Where's this big, just significant strength. But some people are saying when I don't see it, am I wrong? And I said, I said, you argue, I don't go off the narrative. Did anything I say was wrong off with the mango? Show me what they said. And we saw that. I see anything that's not what we saw in the manga. No, no, I didn't. I, I'd argue this is going to sound too disrespectful. I feel like, but endless summer escapes start here. Travel the worlds of Netflix. IRL inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game. Brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games, shop exclusive merge and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play, eat and shop on repeat at Netflix house at Galleria Dallas. Get your tickets [email protected]/house. I feel like how you perform versus people matters a lot to pick the community. It's including this panel. Um, and Odin, yes, he did fight these people. He didn't perform great, but you didn't see all you saw was him getting hit by Roger. How did you see how he performed? This way? If you said he could pull it into the bond, did you see I could probably just wipe it? No. So you saying that it's like, what all his fights were off pedals and like off screen. The only thing we saw was him getting hit by Roger. That's it. The other one, he's performing better. He almost took out title until, you know, he got distracted and you want to argue that observation is fine, but he almost took out title. Who's opening well through this problem as well. So again, he, to me before five, that's another cause of contention, I guess that I would have, I don't think how it was anywhere near his prime when he followed, but he's 39 years old. And what the game, what did the guy Valley said? No, what does he think he said about? He was 21 then and they wouldn't, it would be decades until it's a two. It's a sum 10, two, two as two decades at least. So like you do the master bashing 21 to 39. How many decades is that Sebastian? Or at least cause it's clearly a decade already passed at least one of them coasting near. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, yo, anyone make any sense? How's kind of not really close to which probably is 39 years old. Well, everybody else wasn't doing nothing back then. That's the shadow. That's the way that's the way. You're wrong, bro. That's what you're wrong. That's what I wasn't doing. That's it back then, man. I ain't seen nothing. It didn't take all that he had to put Odin down. And I'm not trying to disrespect Odin. That's just the facts. And if he wasn't as prime, he held a lot back in his battle with Odin. But I guess you, and you're most told when he hit him in the head, you know, when you took out Odin, right? Even beyond that, bro, he didn't go hybrid. He wasn't using Congress. I mean, he was hired for any attack, but it wasn't, no, he had a bashing. It wasn't. It wasn't like all, all we see Kyle do that man did the bare minimum of his bag. He was flying around in dragon form, breathing fire, got cut, went, Oh snap. Time to lock in a little bit and hit him one time. The fight was over. What fight are you talking about? Cause remember, they clearly clashed with Congress hockey when in the castle with, um, with the Roach. Like that happened. They had Congress clash. People clash. So again, that's what you're, you're understanding of certain things is off. That's because you didn't see, like, you think, Oh, Kyle wasn't doing nothing. That doesn't make any sense because he was building a cool, bring an army. My point, my point has always been, it didn't take the, the act that we know Kyle has an excess bag. Yeah, we know that that's not what it took for him to overcome. Oh, now I get you, but the key in the enemies in a biblical almost all enemies, and I'm going to even add the worst and crows. How many top tiers these saw are strong, but I didn't know where, and I don't want to get spoiled. I mean, I don't want to spoil it. Anybody caught off guard and get taken out for some special, for example, that's a perfect example. Bow your way around. You're in a perfect example. Okay. Is that perfect though? That's not the best. Is that the same thing? Okay. How dark was big mom? They're very dirty, but did she not get caught off guard by a queen again? Knocked out and the head. Overall times, they are Darwin strong. They should get anybody caught off guard, especially on a weekend spot and a black spot. I can accept that. I can accept that. I can accept that. We see it all the time. The other people's issues were the stakes online. That's fair in both of the situations for fraud. And he didn't show enough for us to be like, Oh, cause meanwhile, we got dudes that were seemingly stronger than that version of Cairo. Like if you want to ask how we scale narratively with the shank stuff, if you ask a majority of the people in the community, who's stronger between shanks and Kyle, most people say shanks. And I think even you would agree that Kyle got maybe not significantly stronger, but stronger from the moment he fought Odin because Odin himself told Kyle to get stronger. No, he didn't tell Kai to get stronger. He was told by his army. Cause that's an interpretation. I guess that's an interpretation. I guess that is an interpretation. I guess you, but the thing is what again goes into like, why didn't kind of want to fight Odin in the center? What did kind of say? Did he ever say that I'm too weak to beat him or what was his fear? Exactly. That's his point. He said, I don't build this on. So you let me ask you if I say you think Odin went, yo, make sure you build your military up. That's what Odin was telling him. Yes. Come on, man. No, that's just why, why would, why would, why would Odin be like, build your military? I don't know if that's the worst thing that could possibly happen to my piece and build your strength. They'll build yours. Especially he's talking about his military bashing. Why? Why don't I say that? Because what did kind of say to call Odin? He only said, if Odin, and this is where you always get mad that Odin didn't do, Odin didn't rely on his friends or whatever. He's kind of only said to Odin, if you with the Yakuza and the Samurais team up together and fought me with the military strength I have right now, because that's the level that I want it. I have to build it up because remember he only has king and queen. The rest of them are fighters bashing. He said, I would have lost. He didn't say that. Or he said to Kyle, Kyle thought he was going to lose. He did not say he would lose. He said, we, he said, he said, we would have been at an advantage or whatever. He said the losses on both sides would have been great. So he was counting on the losses, but Kyle did not say I would lose to you. Maybe he didn't, but my point is, Kyle was not focused on I'm not strong enough. He's focused on the backing of my military army is not where it needs to be at. But I'm saying, what you're saying is that Odin told him to build his military might up. And that's an, again, that's an interpretation. That could be the case. My interpretation of that was, yo, get as strong as you can because Joy Boy coming, not get the strongest army you can possibly get because Joy Boy is coming. But that, again, that was my interpretation. I would allow that your interpretation could just be very well be right, but that's not how I interpret it, which is why we have this chasm. But even on that, that doesn't take what I'm saying. Because again, if it's, if it's both, if it's Kyle strength in, um, it was kind of strength in his military strength, right? He built up both in my head, right? Is Ayoub Jobi stronger than Imo or the same level. So how's that different to what I'm saying now? Because none of the people we know could really beat Joe in a fight. Kido can't. My point is, Kido cannot beat Joe in a fight, even now. Hold on. But what Odin is saying is a blanket statement, right? Build up your mind. Get as strong as you can, is how I think it was phrased in the official, right? I don't remember exactly what it said, but it's in the vein of, get as strong as you can. Become more than you are, right? Whether it's the military, whether it's your personal strength. The Kido we saw seemingly was more than he was. And this is what I'm saying when we talk about the gaps. Would you say the Kido that we saw at Onigashima was more than he was than that for Odin? Would you say that? I think he's a little bit stronger, but good. But my point is, okay, no, my point is, again, to me, it's like, to me, if you say more than once, then you have to say this to me. Because it was Roger right now at 39 at Guy Valley. The Roger we know now is even more than he was. Yes. But why? Because he had years to get stronger. He's got into battles with strong people. You're missing a big piece. What are you saying? Why? What did Roger learn at Guy Valley? Exactly. That's the gap. You can build it up. My point is, you can get stronger gradually, but unless you learn certain key features of hockey, like critical mass hockey or whatever, or certain outputs, your strength is going to gradually get stronger, because that's why I argued, with the whole Rocks thing, him being an admiral. But, again, 18 years have passed since that time with Rocks fighting that admiral and beating him until now. Did you see a big major gap in Rocks' strength? Okay, I'm going to ask you. My point is that Rocks didn't learn certain key things of hockey that made the big difference. That's the point I'm making. Roger learned critical mass hockey, or maybe something else that made the gap significantly a lot larger. Okay. Do you think Kylo improved his hockey over that time? Yeah, he got stronger, but I'm not saying my point is that there's not a big difference. Do you think he improved his hockey? Do you think his Delphi was awakened already at that time? Yes. You think it was awakened already? Way forward. Yeah. Why wouldn't it be? Why wouldn't it be? Luffy awakened it. He did literally nothing with the fruit. It doesn't matter. He used the fruit to be big dragon and shoot burrow breath. He didn't do anything else with the fruit. So you're telling me that people like Luffy, who have it a fruit, waking it early, like Rob Luffy or whatever, and Kylo, whose knowledge of awakening, who had it for years. We don't know when he got that knowledge. People are able to turn into like, you know, my point is, we already saw like, Kako is a good example where, again, I'm able to turn, even if I had to turn hybrid, I could do all this stuff. And now two years later, I'm awakened it? You get me? It doesn't pass that Kylo didn't awaken his fruit. Because we didn't even go on Kylo didn't awaken his fruit against Luffy. But my point is, Kylo had knowledge and ample time to do stuff for his ability. But he had more time after the Odin death. But we already see people able to use their ability like, well, he nearly no problem. First time he, we saw Sabo just eat the fruit. But Lionel, my point is the, everything we saw Kylo capable of doing at God Valley is the extent of what we saw him doing versus Odin. That's it. You're telling me you think he was awakened. When I see him on panel doing the same stuff, he was doing the first two minutes he ate the fruit. And that was enough to win the fight. Am I am I wrong? Like, that's what happened. No, it didn't. Lionel. The fight was off-paneled one. And Kylo, he didn't want to show Kylo go hybrid because he was saving it for now. Which is fair. But Lionel, they didn't show Odin and him fighting at all. That didn't happen. He goes in the sky, spamming the borrow breaths. That's what was happening. Odin was fighting through the trenches with the fodder people. I don't want to say fodder, but with the army. And then he finally reaches Kylo, jumps up, does the paradise thing, cuts Kylo down. Kylo's like, oh, he's not got caught. And then, they're about to clash. Momo can't see. That's what happens. So again, I'm not trying to knock Odin. But when I read this and I'm like, okay, this is the, I don't want to say extent. This is what Kylo utilized in this fight. This is what Kylo had at God Valley. And this is what Kylo has when I see him actually boxing at the highest level he can box at. Potentially. Because who knows about Awakenings, whatever. It's just different. It's just very different. What I read with Kylo and Onigashima, and what I read with Kylo at God Valley, and what I read with Kylo versus Odin, those are, it's a different person, I'm saying, fight. It's just not. Because again, that's, you know how vague and kind of dumb that is to me? Because again, who's Odin's, no, who's Kylo fighting? He's fighting the main character, Sebastian. So we're not going to get extraordinary named attacks. We're not going to get extraordinary all this information off this guy who's a flashback character. I can accept that, but if they had them two fighting for an extended period of time off panel, I would be like, okay, that's, I just told you, that's not what happened. Odin was fighting through the trenches, finally got to Kylo, got his hit off, Kylo gets up to swing back, and then the fight's over because Odin got distracted. That's what happened. That was the extent of Kylo versus Odin. If it was this, yo, Kylo and Odin been fighting for five days. Kylo and Odin been fighting for three days. There's hockey going on every which way, off panel. I'd be like, okay, there we go. That's what Lionel's talking about. But that's not what I read. That's not what you read. But you're forgetting two things. Again, when they already had a clash at, um, they already had a clash and fought each other at the castle. Okay. Then the whole time, just like the whole dopamine and other stuff, what was Odin doing? He was fighting Kylo's army. Then he finally gets to Kylo. Kylo does a blacklist, hits Odin back. Odin jumps and hits him. Then he lives it. Then Kylo just hits him in the back of the head. I guess the fight wasn't as long as it needed to be, but all that fight was circumstantial. It's literally like, you know, it's the only thing that happened to Luffy in Dorfamingo. Luffy gets Osweiler, fights Dorfamingo, Lorde helps Dorfamingo out, then, you know what I mean, Luffy lives that hit. This is the easiest, this is the easiest way I can go about this, I guess. Because we are laying it along here. If you replace Odin with any of those top tiers that you're mentioning, it doesn't go down like that. Do they have a son? Yeah. No, okay. Yeah. So the son's in that- You can replace Momo with Luffy, and that's not happening. That's not his son. No, no, Bashin, no. You can replace Momo with Luffy, and that's not happening. Bashin, Bashin. It's not! You're not putting the like, we're just, Momo's, they're not related. They're not, that's not- Come on, Lionel. Come on, Lionel. You gotta give them the same thing. Come on, Lionel. Don't just give Anybody's a friend. Come on, bro. A friend that I know I met a days ago could pick the flesh and blood. That's my child. Lionel. Bashin, don't give me that crap. You're acting as though Shanks wouldn't sacrifice his life for Luffy's. Come on, Lionel. Bashin, you said Momo and Luffy. No, I'm saying replace Momo with Luffy and Odin with Shanks. Replace them. I get you, but I'm still not his kid. A person who means as much to Shanks as Momo means to Odin. You say that, but he gave his freaking arm to a fiend, to a saint king. Bashin, go into that. Go into the same thing, but again, that was all distraction because he didn't know what was going on. Well, Shanks cleared it. We always argued. We saw. We saw Shanks fight Hale with all this stuff. There's actively retconned plot elements with why Shanks might have given his arm with that. I get you, but again, you said that. When someone you love is threatening or whatever, that puts you in a vulnerable state. And all that stuff happened in a split second. As soon as Kaido got hit by Odin, because you know what? We saw it. How fast Kaido, remember when Luffy punched Kaido one time? That one time when he did over-conquering and Luffy hit him? You remember how fast Kaido got to hit Odin? I mean, hit Luffy? You remember? When Luffy did an over-con gun and sent Kaido flying, then Kaido did death or whatever and immediately rocked Luffy right after, and Luffy almost got knocked out. Those were seconds. Luffy almost got knocked out. Those were seconds. Or that amount of seconds that happened to the fast recovery that Kaido did, Odin was briefly distracted because he thought his son was going to pass. That's what I'm talking about. Go ahead, Lon. So, I want to say, because originally he asked my take and you guys got into it, right? So, I know we were thinking long on this, so I'm going to try not to be long, because we only got an hour left now, right? So, first, I have to say some things. A lot of them we spoke in the past before about this actor. So, I'm going to bring up some stuff I said to Lano on the phone, right? One, I got to say, yes, Odin, did, like, I'm not saying Odin is weak at all. I do believe he's strong. He's part of Kaido's top five, and he showed that he was strong, naturally strong. Kind of like, almost like a freak of nature in his own right. Not so much big mom level, but his own right as in with his hockey when he's able to do it at such a very young age. Right? He showed he was impressive. But I do want to add these factors. Lano broke up Odin and Whitebeard, right? And then also Odin, Whitebeard in his prime, right? But again, I'm going to bring up the same thing I brought up with Roger. Notice, I still didn't look into it as my fault. Chat, if you guys know it, if you guys go to it, the first I'm bringing up about when Whitebeard goes to Wano and then clashes with Odin, bring it up. Because what I remember is when they clash, notice that I believe that Whitebeard didn't use hockey hardening. Right? Yeah. So the reason I bring this up, because look at a trend here. Because I said the same thing with Roger did the same thing when he was fighting, right? He only used it against certain people, right? So they clash here or whatever, right? And then We'll see you later on, all right. He clashes, oh, he shows up, and guess what? Roger blows Odin away. Remember, blows him away with one attack, right? And we all know the output that Roger put in that attack wasn't meant to, like, take out Odin. It wasn't threatening. It was just like, yo. Threatening? Okay. Remember why it wasn't threatening? Was Roger trying to end Odin's life? No. Why? Because guess what? No. Let me give you my point. We don't have enough time. He asked me the question, right? He wasn't trying to end his life. So it wasn't life-threatening. That's fine. But you said not threatening. Damage is threatening. Whatever. Not life-threatening, right? But this is the point, though, Lionel, right? Because it wasn't life-threatening. And then guess what? You look at the attack that Roger and Viper did together. The attack that Roger did to Odin? Does it compare to the attack that Viper and Roger clashed, right? He's on this level. He looked good. But also, too, again, and they fought for three days. Again, right? And I told Lionel, notice that all these people fighting, it wasn't like they were enemies. The one time that Odin had the life-and-death fight with someone because they were enemies, where he's trying to take your life and you're trying to take his, he lost. I'm sorry to say, that's what happened with Kaido. That one fight, all these women, you go there. The Odin, right? All the other fights were like skirmishes, right? Wasn't like that because even Whitebeard and Roger, like a friendly member, but they showed more power in their attacks, right? The one time that Odin had his fight, he lost it against the top tier. And like Sebastian said, Kaido was in his hybrid form. He didn't use a name attack. We don't even see what type of level of hockey he used because there's no— on his club, you didn't see any lingering of anything. You just seen it, right? So in that case in point. And then I want to argue, too. That one time, right? And then also, again, you guys brought up Shanks being in that point because I said the same thing, right? And then I told Lionel, I'm sorry, no matter what you say, for when we see of Shanks, what happened to Odin doesn't happen to Shanks. And one key factor here, right? His observation, freaking hockey. Like this is what I'm trying to say right here. You want to say why he's wrong? Because, right, we saw Shanks, right, from a distance, right, with Kit, right? And remember, this wasn't intact. This was an attack towards Shanks. This was an attack towards people in his crew. Shanks is not even out at sea yet. He's still on the Elbaf, or whatever they were, on that island. They are deep in the sea, and Kit's even farther than that crew because he's shooting them from a distance. Shanks was able to read way ahead of time, future sight, read what was happening from that, and then close the distance on Kit in an instant before he could even get off his attack. So with this level observation hockey, which Odin has not shown any types of, how would I believe that this trickery, yes, it's not from Kaido, but what happened that Shanks should fall for when he's able to see this much of a future and at a distance? So let me finish, right? And then also, too, again, another thing from a distance. I'm going to add into, like, you guys keep bringing out Luffy knocking out people, 50,000 people, right? If that covers, like, a distance in hockey strength, Luffy couldn't even reach 100,000. He says, I'm going to add into, like, you guys keep bringing out Luffy knocking out people, 50,000 people, right? Shanks could reach 100,000, right? But mind you, again, we see the hockey, Conqueror's hockey he did against Green Bull. The distance. We see that. Go here. Shanks' observation hockey in Conqueror's hockey is able to reach this much of a distance, where Shanks is not even on Wano itself. He's somewhere in the sea, but his observation, because remember, he has to track where Green Bull is. So he has to use observation to track where Green Bull is, and then send his Conqueror's hockey to Green Bull. And then send his Conqueror's hockey there to shut off Green Bull's ability with his Conqueror's. From that distance. You're talking about covering the distance of 100,000 people. What's the distance between here? Between Shanks and Green Bull here. And to have this level of effect where it's still strong enough, not only to stop Green Bull, because remember, he was full logging mode or whatever, to turn off his ability and to immobilize him. Well, he's yelling out in pain, ah, ah, who is that? Shanks, leave me alone. And then, whatever. Like, this is the distance he was able to cover. No, no, that's what happened. Green Bull's hands were literally in the air, and he's yelling out, ah. And his ability completely digressed, right? So I'm saying the distance where Shanks is able to use his hockey and travel, whatever, doing this, Odin has not shown that. Especially with his observation. So here, what I'm saying is this will not happen to Odin, I mean, to happen to Shanks, because of what he's able to do hockey-wise and his ability. It was shown that he was too strong for that, right? Odin has not shown, these at all, right? And also, too, right, I think, I'm just gonna, I think that was enough. What I'm gonna say, I'm gonna add more, but, like, I think, what Cable did, like I said before, too, like, I don't, and also, like I said, the one big fight that Odin had, he lost. And also, too, like, pretty much, right? So, what? If you have more, I have one thing to add. Go ahead, go ahead. I have one question. One second. The other piece to show the difference between Odin and Shanks in their respective scenarios, like Lawrence brought up, the 100,000 people that Shanks would have been able to knock out. When Odin came up against Kaido in his 10,000 or whatever, he didn't go, all right, let me use my hockey to flex and knock all 100,000 of these people out, 10,000, whatever number this was. Seemingly, the Shanks that we're talking about would have been able to do that. And at least, probably all of these people are getting knocked out. Yeah. Versus maybe just King and Queen or whoever, Jack, I don't think Jack was even lying. Jack was like, hey, I don't know. would have survived his Conker's hockey blast in that moment. And I'm not trying to show that that's the gap, but it tells me there's a difference here between that man facing these odds and Odin when he faced them. It's funny. You say that, right? Yeah, man. But those are Fishman non-warrior fighters that Luffy knocked out 50 and Chainsaw knocked out 100. Yeah, you also said, and we question it even today, that when we see hockey Conkers getting leased in Wano and other areas in, I think, Elbath. People are getting knocked out. No. The lack of numbers of getting knocked out. We even question how come he wouldn't knock out some Giants or he wouldn't knock out kids. So that function, so that argument right there is invalid because we only see how many people in Wano that some of the Conkers. Did we see actually a lot of people getting knocked out? No. Well. There's not a lot. Well, you could argue, right? Who was Shanks' hockey in a way compared to? It was compared to, in a way, Joe Boyce. No, they didn't fully compare to Joe Boyce. They just said, like, is it stronger than Joe? Is it stronger? What was it? Is Shanks' So, let's compare it because right now you're sensing something and it made you think of, yo, like, Shanks' hockey? Like, yo, is this even, like, the strongest hockey they're sensing is Shanks and they're sensing this when they're like, yo, can this be stronger than Shanks? Even if it is, but you're putting Shanks up there, that's the level he's able to do. We saw Joe Boyce's hockey knock out vice admirals and hockey users, right? So then, you talk about the whole Wano thing. If Joe Boyce's hockey is able to do that and Shanks' hockey is somewhat, maybe I'll be a little lower, I'm not going to say Shanks' hockey is Joe Boyce's level, but it's in question of thought, like, yo, can this possibly be even stronger than Shanks' hockey? Because we're feeling this because they felt it, right? They know it, right? They felt, they probably felt it when he attacked him, right? So, same situation. They just felt Shanks' hockey when he attacked Kidd or observation, whatever, you know? And then, and then the same here. So that thought here. If Joe Boyce's level is knocking out vice admiral levels or whatever, right? How many people in Kaido's, in this thing, are stronger than vice admiral? But you can't use that as a knock on Odin. He just didn't do Conqueror's Hockey. But we're comparing what is Kidd. You know if he can knock it or not. My point is, just because, like, for instance, when do you ever see Roger or anyone else do a Conqueror's Blast, whatever, and knock out people? Like, my point is, just because you use it, the evidence, whatever you say, just because somebody didn't use it at that moment, doesn't mean they're not capable of doing it. That's not a valid argument. But how many times have you seen them, those people you're talking about, Faced with this situation. Same as that situation. The only time you said it for Roger would have been Ed Ward. But you don't see them do it at all. You don't see any of these guys do actions. When, like, when's the time you saw Kaido do an action? When's the time you saw Kaido do an action? that he's able to see the future from the distance? Not only what the time span, but for example, Luffy's only in the moment the opponent is fighting, right? This dude is seeing it off island. We talked about, for example, we talked about a while back, Ray said, you could literally go to an island and since people's strength level there, Luffy on this island, there's like 500 or whatever stronger than you. Chase could do that off island, you know what I'm saying? The island over, I gotta get to the island to do that. I could on my ship at a distance. This person right here, you know what? I'm gonna affect this person, cuz remember, admiral level, Chase can affect. I'm on the ship, I'm a sense this guy is admiral level, pinpoint him, I'm gonna stop you. Man, that's not doing future sight. No, I don't. You just have to set someone's location, their strength. No, I was talking about future sight. What do you think is, do you think- He's talking specifically. No, you're talking about distance of observation. I'm talking about seeing into the future. No, no, yeah. Either way, he still has a- That's part of your observation. No, there's two different shades of observation. Future sight and observation are the same thing. I'm talking about the level that Chase is able to do with it, it's combined, it's not different. It makes it even more so because what you're able to do with your future sight and your observation at the same time. That's what I'm trying to say. All that together, and how you're able to do it, how you're able to affect it, is always able to do with observation. You don't know how, if he could see in the future, far away distance, like, from another island. You're just adding- No, no, no. We do, you wanna know? Cuz he did it with Kidd. That wasn't islands away. Lino, islands, Lino. What? Lino, what? What? First of all. Islands away, right? We saw Shanks off-island affect Wano, right? We saw Shanks still on an island. Was Kidd visible, right? Through their eyes, on the island? No. I have to go back to see it. No, no, no. Go to- Shanks- Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. Kidd only saw- The ships. Oh, yeah, their ships. He didn't see Shanks' ship. No, they saw the island, though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They didn't see Shanks' ship, I'm talking about. But either way, that's deep out in the sea. Well, I think you're making the gap- The gap is not as big as you think it is. And one, again, distance- Either way, Kaido and Luffy hasn't shown that in the slightest. But again, they're not in the circumstances to show it. That's why- You're using evidence of what this person showed? No, you're using evidence of what this person showed, and this person's not in the circumstances to show it. Luffy couldn't even sense? You know who I know didn't sense? Look, Luffy couldn't even sense? No, 100%. What? Odin, he didn't show that. But you know what I'm saying, Luffy- The question was Luffy, right? I said Luffy and Kaido. Yeah, yeah, Luffy and Kaido. The problem is, whatchamacallit, Luffy couldn't even sense? Remember when Kaido attacked his crew, right? Yeah. Right? Luffy couldn't even sense if they're all right. That's on Wano, same island. With Future Sight. With Future Sight. Couldn't even sense if they're okay. I don't know if they're okay. He got angry and attacked Kaido. He couldn't even do that. So, showing me, it doesn't reach that far, right? And to see what's gonna happen, because guess what, there's a limit. Luffy's only showed that- In Future Sight, he's able to see, in battle, who he's fighting. I'm gonna make this even simpler for you. No, my point is, I don't wanna bring it up. Regardless if they could see into the future, that's my point I'm making. They could see into the future, right? Because my point is, then how come they didn't stop that guy from stopping Luffy? Like, either of them, Kaido or Luffy, they didn't see? Well, good, they both used Future Sight. They both were acting using Future Sight in the fight. Oh, Guernica? Yeah. What's his name? Guernica. Yeah. He didn't stop Luffy. And Luffy was like, "Huh?" And then he gets hit by Kaido. To my understanding, they were mid-attack. They were swinging. But again, Future Sight, they would've saw that coming. Hold on, you're the only one who's not thinking. And that's two people. That's two people that would not want that to happen. That's fine, but Shanks is greater than their future. Yeah, but my point is, my point is, you said, because Shanks is Future Sight. Yeah, he has displays that would show him that he's not gonna get in that situation. They have Future Sight. You could say Shanks is greater, but the point is, they're still using Future Sight. They can see into the future. Prevent things from happening, yet they didn't prevent that. That's your whole argument. When we saw two people-- That's not the whole argument. No, no, that's what you said. But my point is, my point is, it's not gonna still happen. You can still get caught off guard, even-- You can, you can. You can, you can. Speed and everything. We said, what kind of Future Sight? I'm asking a question. We see, like, for instance, what did Luffy say? Remember what Luffy said? When he sees Kaido jump at Luffy and hit him, Luffy said, "I barely dodged it, and I was still using Future Sight." Lino. You have vulnerability and a few minor seconds. That's all it takes. You being vulnerable and a few minor seconds. I agree with that. You get speed bumps, you get caught off guard. I agree with that. Okay, okay. That can happen to anybody, even Shanks, Lawrence. How? Prove it. Show us what happens to Shanks. Yo. When do we see Shanks really fight, bro? We only see awesome instances where he's showing the best of play. We never see Shanks in an actual situation-- Lino, Lino, Lino, I'm gonna ask you a simple question. You're not funny. You say that. He got caught by Blackbeard. I'm going to ask you-- And he said, "I didn't let my guard down." You don't freaking know. You don't freaking know. I'm gonna ask you a simple question. This is what you're-- No, no, no, no. This is what you're advising me to do. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know, though. Lino, Lino, Lino. Lawrence, he's doing a-- Lino, Lino, Lino. Come on. But, Lawrence, it's funny. Lawrence, you said that, right? He's killing two advanced conquerors. He's killing two advanced conquerors fighting Harold. Later on, you get me? Like, you get me? So, you don't even-- Well, you got the scar already. No, but my point is-- I know. Thank you. No, but my point is, you don't know when he fought Blackbeard. I know that he got the scar already, though. Yeah, but you don't know if he was not using Conkers or Fusasite during that time. Maybe. Who knows? We don't know. We don't know. Because you don't-- Lino. The time we're talking about Fusasite, he's a grown man. Lino. We don't know when he learned it. Lino. He's good. Luffy learned it at 19. Let me say this. Let me ask you this. Oh, my gosh. Luffy right now versus Odin. Who you got? Endless summer escapes start here. Travel the world to worlds of Netflix IRL. Beat the heat. We'll see you next time. Bye. We all know your answer to Luffy versus Shanks right now. Man. Okay. So the fact that you know the answer to that one and you're like, you're thinking, that's the gap. That's the gap. Thank you. Whether we can explain it to you or not, that feeling you have when I asked you this person versus that person like a-- But I was actually going to and told you. I was actually going to and told you. Okay. You said that's good, but I was actually going to-- We had to think about it. But you know, there's no question Luffy versus Shanks. You had to think about it. In fact, there's only two things though. You didn't even answer. Do you know why? Because it goes into, again, what I think. We've argued this before. I said, as long as it's to give people crap, I just assume they might have it, but I don't fully guarantee it. Then again, what did we argue before? Shanks might not have knowledge of critical mass hacking. Critical mass hacking to beat Luffy. My point is, that's the upscale that can give Shanks over Odin. That's the only thing you can give him. That's future sight. What about future sight? My point is, again, I'm going back again. I already told Lawrence, only to just learn this stuff during mid-battle. Lionel, Lionel. No, can you not? What? Lionel, Lionel. How am I wrong? He's not wrong. I'm not wrong. You're not freaking-- No, you're telling me I'm wrong. Imagine when the freaking Zolo is learning advanced power. That's not a valid reasoning for why someone would win a fight in a hypothetical. Bash him. In a show? No, it's valid. Why not why? Because if you're doing that with other characters, like Kaido, I could just work out future sight. With Zolo, another character who's potentially the main character, I could just work out Congress. We're seeing people gradually learn critical mass hacking. We got 40 minutes, guys. Gradually learn critical mass hacking during mid-battle. And what do Rayleigh said? You learn this stuff through battle. So again, am I wrong? Lionel, if that's what you have to lean on, then he's not winning. If you have to lean on him learning some ability-- Luffy did it. Luffy did it. Bro, Luffy did it. Luffy did it, bro. Oh, it can't happen? It happened. Luffy did it. Roger did it against Rock. Lionel, you got it. We got Luffy and Roger doing it against Rock. No, he doesn't. I'm ready to have it, bro. Nah, bro. This is crazy. And he tries to say he's not biased. No, I'm not. I'm good then. All that stuff I said is with the mega show. Am I wrong? Exactly. Exactly. No. All I said was with the mega show. No. Have you heard your interpretation? No. Because what we said-- What did we say that wasn't with the show show? What did we say that wasn't with the show show? What did we say, bro? Lawrence. Mega show show. A lot of your bias, bro. You got to admit that. I'm not, bro. I always argue facts with the mega show, bro. This is biased, bro. Everybody can do it. He can do it, too. He didn't do it against Kaido. Everybody can do it. Circumstantial. Oh, circumstantial? Circumstantial, bro. The times you do it, you don't do it. Oh, circumstance? Circumstantial, yeah. This dude, after one shot, admitted defeat. I'm sorry. Circumstantial, bro. Circumstantial. So he admitted defeat after one shot. Circumstantial? Circumstantial, bro. No, stop. That's not circumstantial. It is. He got one shot and admitted defeat. This is wild. This is wild. Not afterwards. What's after afterwards? Just like circumstantial shakes off society. Lawrence, stop. Circumstantial shakes off society? This is biased. It's circumstantial. Are y'all going to do that? It's circumstantial. It's circumstantial. Shay's could have knocked out that Sid King. But circumstances of I want to lose this arm, getting connected with a girl, say, and moving in with a girl. This is bad. No, it is. I'm saying it's circumstantial. It's low-key sad. Just like Big Mom getting knocked out by a queen. It's low-key sad. Well, I need you to know Odin better than this. I'm just saying it's circumstantial. I don't care what you guys think or believe. Everything I had said was from the mega. You get me off your own head, kid, and biases, it's off. But that's it. No, everything I said was off-canon. You really believe that you thought Kaido is so much weaker than 39 years old. That's your head, kid. You said that. You thought Kaido was so much weaker when the narrative maker said he's not that weak in 39 years old. He's close to power king level in his prime. But to you, your head-canon, you think he's weaker. But I'm going to go bias it off my own bullcrap. So shut up. I don't care what you guys think. You really thought Kaido was stronger than Shanks at one point. Exactly. Yeah, I've always been consistent with people's strength. No, you haven't. Yes, I have. You haven't? Yeah. Blackberry, Lionel. Are we done? Blackberry what? Remember when you tried arguing that Blackberry didn't have Aki? You're only because of people's strength? That's the meaning of knowing the full information. No, that's the law. Excuses. No, that's true. Let's move on. You thought all giants were weak. Lionel. Lionel. Lionel. You always thought all giants were weak. How many times has Lawrence gone back? All giants are weak. Yeah, when we have two conquerors. Oh, Loki's like one of the strongest characters now. Like, it's like, he's a freaking giant, Lawrence. I thought they were all weak. He's an Asian giant. He's not a normal giant. Doesn't matter. He's still a giant. He's not an Asian giant. He's still a giant, bro. You're lacking information. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's completely different. No, it's different. Lacking. Again, bro. It's bad. Again, you're bad. You've been bullcrapping too. Oh, my gosh. Now, Lawrence said at one point that Marco is not even second division commander strength. Like, Lawrence says it. Like, he keeps, and Lawrence says, he doesn't hate Marco. Every time he talks about Marco, it really goes down. It really goes down. He's not first division commander strength. He's not second division commander strength. What level is he, Mark? Is he not even third anymore? You say these things, and when you go into your moments, you be capping hard. I'm not capping. No, bro. You have downgraded Marco more and more. He can't even be queen now? Yo, Lionel. Yo, I'm just saying, yo. I need you to drop it. Because I'm trying to finish the show. Finish it, man. All right. I'm just saying. I'll be true, bro. Yeah, I'll be fake. It's bad, bro. You're like a little kid. Yo, you were inconsistent. You were inconsistent, but you did bullcrapping. All right. We got another 10 from Rox D. Manning. It says, opinions on the Avatar live action, Korra. I feel like she gets a lot of hate for no reason. Annie's character wasn't meant to handle. Her kind of battles and stresses. The series deserves less hate, in my opinion. Okay, so the series itself does deserve less hate. Korra kind of trash. I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I'm going to be real. Korra herself. Oh, yeah. I wasn't a big Korra guy. And it wasn't because she was a woman. It was because I just didn't care for her character. I thought some of the love interest situations were whack. I thought the decisions she's made were kind of not great. I thought we had a, I had an issue with how strong she was supposed to be. And then the struggle she would have with the strength she seemed to be was, he was like a genius to start out. And then she was like overconfident. And then this wasn't dang. And it's not fair to compare it to Aang. But like the series itself was great to me. I love the villains. I love the storylines in general. Again, I didn't care for the love interest too much. But Korra didn't resonate much with me a lot. Yeah, same. And also too, like you said that they showed that she was a genius. Aang showed that he was actually a genius. They tried telling him that she was supposed to be a genius or was a genius. But then got outclassed at every turn, even at the lowest level. Every, every. Any, any, like almost any battle, any fight and everything. She struggled a lot. Not really showcasing any type of genius. So it's like, you're telling me she is, but it's just, it was bad. Wasn't it a genius thing? Because she could just. She learned, she learned like two elements immediately. Like earth and water. Instantly, like she mastered them or whatever. They said she mastered them. But. The master is strong. Yeah, she didn't look like a master. She was kind of clumsy. Hey man, shout out to Korra though. The series was good. I enjoyed it. Another 18 months at Yonko status from 5AM Bleak. Welcome. Enjoy all the emojis. Another five months. $5 from Jada Root. The one with the rings are stronger. Cause Goku didn't. Didn't have to lower his power to match Vegeta so they could fuse. Ah, that's a good point. That's a good point. I don't know if that innately makes them stronger, but maybe. Right? I suppose. Another five Canadian from Figaro and Shampoo. Who do you think has better potential? Momo or Bonnie? And do you think Bonnie could be an apprentice in Luffy's ship? Hashtag is twins real. Hashtag Marv the goat. Hashtag Sebi Webby. More potential. Bonnie or Momo? I gotta say Bonnie for now. She definitely has more courage. But it's mostly her ability though, I gotta say. No, she has, she has a stronger courage. Like at a young age, cause they're around the same age. She's more bold and won't be able to step up and go there. Momo, Luffy has to like coach him to be courageous. I think I'm going to go Bonnie. And it's going to be for a reason that's not what you guys said right now. I think what Bonnie does have. That Momo doesn't have. Is a mentor that could get them to a space that's going to make them stronger. Momo doesn't really have that. He has like Kinamon and some of the scabbards maybe. Oh, I guess Yamato. I forgot about Yamato. I did forget about Yamato. Cause she was like mentoring him when he was trying to move the island at one point. I might switch my answer. Cause of Yamato. I completely forgot she existed. Not even joking. I forgot. I was going to say Vegapunk. For Bonnie? Yeah. I'll go Momo then. Yeah, I'll go Momo. Another Yonko joins the ship in Monkey D. Tico. Welcome. Another five from St. Louis. It says Marv doing this without being seen is like that episode of Naruto where we were supposed to see under Kakashi's mask. Listen, if y'all watch the old school intro, Marv in there, bro. We've had this conversation a few times. You can see Marv, man. He there. Another five from Hunch and D-Hose. Speaking of Digimon, Marv, have you seen Digimon Beat Break? I haven't seen it, but it looks amazing from what I've seen of it. The pictures and whatnot. The art style looks really great. I like that. It seems like it's aiming towards a older demographic. I think that's awesome. So I'm going to check it out eventually. Okay. Awesome. We got another 10 from Tyler the Don. What's up, Tom? Just got off work. Just wanted to stop in and say Blackbeard the Goat. Mihawk is evil. Mihawk is Emu's relative, and Seb's always right when it comes to Blackbeard. Hashtag Gabon is not stronger than Rocks. Hashtag topped on top. Hashtag bang, bang, buggy gang. Thank you. I appreciate that. Mihawk is Emu's relative is wild, bro. I'm not going to lie to you, man. You said he might be his son at one point. Cool. Relative to him is different. A lot of people got kids. A lot of people. Some kids out here. Another five from Monkey Deep Taco, who just became a Yako. It says, what's good, fellas? What manga would you recommend to read with my 14-year-old godson? Appreciate y'all effort. Y'all and the effort you put onto the pod. I, 14-year-old Gameron, or Ippo, or, oh, 14. Worst. Crows. Anything in the Crows' worst universe. I haven't read all of that. He'll be the goat. Kingdom. QP. Kingdom. All the goated ones. If it's manga-specific, I'll let the twins say one, but I just rattled off, like, seven, so. There's one recently. Ah, shoot. I'm probably not saying One Punch Man. Yeah, I'm about to say that. I'm sure you didn't say that already. One Punch Man. Yeah, the One Punch Man. Guys, I'll let y'all champion that. I like it. I've never, like, dove as hard in it as I probably could have. I've been rereading Gameron. It's so good. It's so good. Wait, did you what? I want to, I can't think of one right now. But did you start reading Blood and Steel? Nah. My fault. I got a lot of manga I got to catch up on, man. But it's on the list. Blood and Steel, obviously. Blood and Steel? Okay. Law? I said One Punch Man. You said One Punch Man? Yeah. Yeah, do all the ones I just said, and then maybe go to those two. Yeah, do that. Yeah, One Punch Man needs to build up a little more. If you're, like, a little weary of, like, what they're reading, because he's young at 14, I would say go Ippo. It's more motivational, it provides more structure, and it's hilarious. I will say, don't read Ippo. You got to watch it first. The beginning manga is, like, graphics is so bad. But I would watch it first, and when you catch all the way up, then read. Because it's really bad in the manga. Didn't Larry say that he read it and it was actually. He liked it. Yeah, man. I mean, if you get past the graphics, it'll look bad to me. Okay. Yeah. And yeah, throw some manga recommendations first. He said that, but Crows is just as bad at words. - Chris Lawrence? they both get amazing artwork at some point i don't know what school these dudes ended up going to to learn but in the beginning all the way they needed to but um it was wrong yeah i think they were just trying to do the the old school cartoon motif a little bit too much i don't know it's it's crazy the length like the drastic yeah how he looks you see him now it's like this is not the same thing i'm reading yeah all right we got another 50 from rocks d manny thank you so much man um it says marv bringing up frankie as frankenstein is crazy because he is monster of doctor emmett a good dude but what was his purpose question marks maybe frankie will surpass him in the future luffy and luffy isn't the one who wins next maybe one piece end with luffy taking an l hashtag love y'all folks thank you uh for the generous super chat thank you i didn't follow all that for real but frankie's never surpassing luffy i'm sorry luffy will be dead and frankie still won't surpass luffy yeah i'll be honest with you that's a little disrespectful but that's fair yeah man i can't i can't rock with that wait no maybe if he starts drinking that vega vega punk like he could drink vega cola every day for the rest of his life he's not gonna be better than stronger than luffy right he's just not like he's just not right uh another two from tucci it says garling theory ties perfect with the devon delphi and blackberry equals king eyes emoji maybe i mean i didn't really tie it into all that but like sure you know another two from mustafa qatar i think i hope i read that right uh it says a kind of more of a conqueror than ninety ninety nine percent of conquerors hashtag goat kind of to me man conquer him out in my heart bro kind of man i hope you guys find that when he when he and the older actually makes him not conquer because then why why you gotta do that bro i didn't like that statement i didn't like it didn't make sense oh yeah it didn't make sense at all there's no way you when you hear when you think conquerors yeah he's not he's not he's not even top five when you think conquerors you have a list he's not reaching i 100 think of a kind of not either a kind of big big red bro a whole lot of red okay do you think he's more of a conqueror than joe boy and roger how about you yeah he said did he say 99 99 that's like to talk to that uh talk trash behind a grown man's back and attack kids is that is that that's in a sense what he did you know what i'm saying is that kind of did the same stuff is that kind of kind of was doing all that stuff yeah i had no idea when you kind of do that kyle was like yo man you saw if like roger and whitebeard waiting for him to die to say that one two yeah no no we won't get petty we can do this we can we can do we can go we can go he ain't here though i mean i just did it why we ain't here i can talk to you listen respect and kind of a whole lot of red bro all right kind of a conqueror bro if he not ought to fumble i don't care the headcanon above all i don't care i'm willing to accept that it's that kid i don't care kind of definite conqueror bro because what we doing if he not what are we doing especially like we're giving dr giles what are we really doing what are we really doing if a kind is not a conqueror bro and i know i'm i'm emotionally invested but what are we really doing i do for you on the i don't doubt i figure that it's a waste of a conqueror's person i really do but we got we got we got boa as a conqueror right no that's right cool sure that fits that rocks i guess bro that rocks another dollar how are you gonna say can't you bash him him too i feel that what are we doing okay i feel that we're good he ain't doing that with it either is a kind when he get up out that desk is up bro just know when you fight a kind of you a party you lose a part of you man he'd be all right he'd be conquering coding his pens when he writes to the girl but i find it kind of weird that he's being a conqueror and all and he's fighting for 10 days with someone who's not a conqueror that kind of kind of doesn't seem right to me that's the word that is that is that is there's some thought there yeah chill out bro i got nothing chill out chill out that's when he awakened it you know i don't know okay maybe i'll keep you i don't know i don't know man i'm willing to lower the bar from my god to get it i don't care oh my god another one from hydrogen uh thank you next time bro hey man another two from diving life add bonnie to the mix which 12 year old's winning big mom yo y'all need to understand that big mom is smoking bonnie bro like it's not even a she is but you gotta bro no my point is i'm i'm being stupid i'm being stupid but what if she can replicate magic she has a more dangerous ability here what if she just makes them younger because they're not so powerful that they could just flex out of that with hockey right and bonnie's adept with her devil fruit for real do you think big mama because she's so emotional in her stations you think she awake in congress hockey then if we get ace we got dope flamingo and i'm doing it i don't know but i'm gonna be real with you she better get them to like the right age because if big mom is still like five or four she's still within the fight she gotta smack bonnie once and that's it she's still with it she gotta get her to infant status um uh we got another 11 months at knock on status from fremos it says seb who you got me hawk versus rocks i'm gonna go rocks i'm gonna go rocks i know i'll be rock slandering but oh it felt it feels weird to say me home you kept saying it wasn't slander they call it slander i don't consider it slander if you bring out fact to somebody and you don't agree with it it's not slander that's fair yeah listen man it wouldn't shock me if it's me hawk though and i know larry gonna flame me yeah it wouldn't shock me if it's me it wouldn't i'm actually just curious about the difference of like sword play i mean because me hawk is a master swordsman now you have this guy who's grabbing a sword and just swinging at you just so just like just think me hawk would be disgusted i think what are you doing i don't know man um i'm gonna put a ball out there i'm gonna put a ball out there i'm gonna put a ball out there up who y'all who y'all got me hawk versus rocks i don't give him rocks for now i have to because he's a conqueror and and he's okay he may not wear the sword properly but he could fight like that's hands-on i do feel like we gassed to him not wielding the sword properly thing name a soldier who does this hey man you would never see that you don't see that exactly he's not it's not skillful it's not there's no technique to it's literally just i pick up i just try to swing it yeah another five from kaiba corporate fan request cover story kyle can't stand the pain getting a hockey infused tattoo from yo girl hashtag the harley text hashtag the harley falls hashtag twin linguists um kaido getting a tattoo would be a hilarious cover story i'm not gonna worry it would i think that would be great i would i think that would be pretty cool but honestly i picture kaido drinking and crying i can i can picture it while he's getting a tattoo kyle gets drunk and moves and he messes the guy messes up man and then kaido's and then like launches the thing is the quite the joke has always been so there's always been like a meme of like the person who gave kind of kind of his tattoo right and it's like this giant like god-like figure because like how is he even hurting kind of like he's scarring him constantly yeah small little whatever and it's like do you like odds are he just turning off his like power but that is the answer right now these things he's throwing probably but he's regularly adorable as a giant regardless like he's because that's like he's a giant because he's a giant in the only or he's a giant because that's why i still don't actually know him Whatever that is. Yeah. I don't know, man. We got another two from Inferno Night. Shanks and Mihawk versus Prime, Rayleigh, and Gabon. I'm going Shanks and Mihawk. We get this every so often. I'm going Prime, Rayleigh, and Gabon. I believe Prime, Rayleigh, and Gabon are stronger than Mihawk. Yeah, I do too. Yeah. Okay. Another five from TKTK. Wemby is like a 2K My Career player, Seb. I'm sorry for you. I believe y'all will make it to the finals, but y'all stop it at the Spurs. Spurs and four OKCs with the sweeping emojis. I actually think the Knicks match up pretty well with the Spurs. We don't match up that well with the Thunder, but we'll see. The way the Knicks are playing, they seem really good. They seem really focused. They're playing through Cat more than they're playing through Brunson. It's not so much hero. A lot of off-ball movement, making everybody kind of more efficient in their scoring. And we're defending. So if we can shoot like we've been shooting and defend like we've been defending, we can beat anybody. The numbers will tell you that over our last seven games. And we've already beat the Spurs, I think, twice or three times this year, one of which in a championship situation for the NBA Cup. So I think a lot of what we do allows for us to exploit some of the Spurs' weaknesses. Namely, especially if we're doing the Cat hub, it'll have to have Wemby kind of leave the paint unless they want to put somebody else on Cat, which I don't know. I don't know if you want that exactly. It's going to lead to a lot of foul trouble and a lot of Cat scoring on you. But yeah, if we force Wemby out of the paint, there's not as much rim protection. Whether he can recover, that's another conversation. We probably can, but I don't know. I think the Knicks would beat the Spurs in six. Thunder. Knicks in seven. Either way, Knicks, bro. Another five from Max Bauer. It says, The Giants are trash, complete bums against their top opponents. Can't wait to see them get wiped week one against my Dallas Cowboys. Hashtag Seb Slater. Hashtag MarvTop1. Okay, I was reading this as like the Giants. Yeah, word. I was like, okay. Then I heard, I was like, wait. Of course you were like, okay. We haven't beaten the Cowboys week one in a long time. So. I'll have to eat that for now. I didn't mean he knew he was talking about the Giants. Did you? Okay. Back to back sports tweet. Super chance. Okay. We'll see. It looks like a new year for the Giants, man. We've been kind of mid for a long time recently. So we'll see. Looking forward to the season now. Cowboy soccer. I don't know how old you are, but you probably have never seen a Cowboys conference championship or Super Bowl appearance. Your opinion don't matter. Number two from TKTT. How do you feel about? How do you feel about Luffy becoming a Seraphim? Ew. No. Why would we do that? Did they make one version of Luffy? Like a clone? Yeah. No, they said Luffy becoming a Seraphim. I'm gonna assume they meant clone Luffy. Yeah, like, they have to be like, all right, they clone Luffy into that. I actually still don't know if I like that a lot. I don't. I wouldn't mind it. But Luffy, actual Luffy turning into that? No. Absolutely not. Mm. Another 10 from Wade the Asian. Just came back. Seb smiling and the twins beefing. Laughing emojis. I genuinely can't wait to watch this later. Hashtag speculation twins. Hashtag it's murder. Hashtag bust it open. Hashtag I love this pod. Hashtag sibling robbery. Yeah, y'all was getting into it, bro. I was just trying to move past it and y'all was just going. And I was like, do I yell? I was like, what did dad used to do? I don't think that would work for me, man. You were trying to take out the bell? Yeah. That was just-- Oh, man. Another two from Davey the Oaks. Where's Larry? We need someone to balance the BS. Yeah, man. There was a lot going on out here, bro. I'm sorry. I'm not as good a mediator as Larry is, I guess. Another five from Rox D. Manny. It says, to clarify on the last Super Chat, Frankie will surpass Luffy in the timeline and echo Luffy like Emmett. Frankie will live on following the next Nika user. OK. That makes sense. That makes so much more sense to me. Still no. Me Hulk versus Loki. Who you got $2 from, Davey the Oaks? And why? I'm going Loki. I'm going Loki, too. Yeah, Loki, too. Right now. Right now, yeah. They're saying Larry would have sat right there just like Yousef smiling. Oh, man. All right. That's all the Super Chats for now. We still have 15 minutes left in the episode, so we'll try to get some callers. So back to-- Back to Uggery. No, stop. No. We're going to try to get some callers. All right. I'm going to just drag people in. I think Trent DM'd me earlier. I don't know who's here first, but I'll get Trent in here, man. I'll get Trent in here. Oh, I don't even have the things set up. Hold up. My bad. My bad, y'all. It's been a while since we got the calls. This is what happens when Larry not here, man. See that? You see that, y'all? All right. Oh, no. That's not supposed to happen. Don't do that. Don't do that. All right. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Trent. Trent, are you there? Trent, go on once. Oh, no. I'm muted. I'm tripping. How's the volume on your laptop? I don't know. Allow. All right. Hold on. There we go. Trent, can you hear me? Trent, go on once. Trent, go on twice. All right, Trent. Sorry, bro. All right. Is this Gert? What is this? Griff? Griff, are you there? Yes. I'm here. All right. Talk to me, man. What's going on? Sorry. We were trying to get the calls today. Oh, nothing much. Nothing much. Today, I think I just wanted to talk about a little of the hockey debate around -- like, we were told that hockey transcends all, but was it through a reliable narrator? Because we've seen a lot of stuff lately, especially about by stuff other than hockey, like Luffy and Loki weren't able to be dummy reversing, and we know Emu's hockey is way above theirs, or it has to be. And so, like, and then you have things like, well, if Caesar was to take out the air out of the room, could you? Could you use any hockey to prevent that, or are you just, like -- I mean, that happened to Luffy, and he wasn't able to really do anything about it. So, like, there's got to be aspects of Devil Fruits that make them relevant. And what if it's just a thing where hockey doesn't really transcend, but it more of augments? So the things like -- like, if your will is strong enough to go against what somebody is trying to do. So, like, Logias are the main thing. Maybe it increases the density of that person and doesn't allow them to break apart, and I think this fits well with, like, the critical mass hockey that Roger learned, which is probably just the top tier, like, so that's giving hockey more of a density aspect than anything. And like, Big Mom and Kaido, like, the reason they weren't able to be moved is they were too heavy for Law to move them, because their hockey was too strong, and just thoughts about that. So, like, they're not going to be able to do anything about it, but they are going to be able to do something about it. They're going to be able to do something about it, but they're not going to be able to do anything about it. So, I don't know, from what Oda wrote, if it was a hockey effect that Emu wasn't able to turn Loki and Luffy -- from what we're seeing, it wasn't -- it didn't seem like it was their hockey, because that would bring out other implications, and then about the show of, like, all right, it was able to affect Harold and -- no, not Harold, I'm sorry -- it would affect Rox, because the Giants, Dragan Broit, yeah, we understand that. But Rox, and then Luffy and Loki, so I think it was something else where we're going to -- maybe Oda's going to elaborate on. So, I don't know if it was the hockey-stronger thing. If that is, then that's different, right? But for the seizure thing, right, that can affect -- that's different, because it's like the air, the oxygen you're affecting. But I do believe, before I say hockey could transcend all, you're -- a certain level of obfuscation, even -- especially the future side -- should be able to tell you what's coming to where you're able to react and get past that, like, get out of that facility, take out Caesar before he even attempts to do that, you know, in that way. So that's where, like, hockey in itself could be affected or other aspects of it. It doesn't necessarily have to be your conquerors or Bosuku, but also your observation, maybe in future sight, could play a role in it, too. I say yes only if you know what's happening, because it goes into Luffy got hit with a poop. Luffy legit has future sight, was using his future sight, but still couldn't tell what was going on or happening, and he still got hit from it. So I think that the sound thing, what Drake explained to them, like, all right, this is happening because of this, and we see Drake, who's not a future sight user, maybe a regular observation user, is easily able to dodge it. So I think if you can certainly see what's happening, like, for instance, Cat, who's a proficient future sight user, still got hallucination and a fighting oven. To other people's eyes, he should have saw it coming. I say certain things factor in if you know what's happening. If you're with your future sight and know what's going on, then you could stop or dodge it. But if you really don't know what's happening or why it's the cause of it, even your future If it's not giving you that information or you're not understanding that information, you're probably still not going to dodge because you still don't know why it's happening. To me, that goes into, I'm saying, like, your level. Because, like, I was saying before, right? From what we've seen with Luffy, and that's what you've shown, that what Kat's able to, we saw, is able to see a future with multiple people. Luffy, what we've seen, his only future is only, like, one person. As in, like, one person attacking, like, Kaido, or his opponent, and him. We have never seen Luffy, his future site, or his other people, where you would say, all right, I saw Kaido attack Zoro. Or I saw that, Luffy's future site is not to that extent or level, you know? It's not stronger or better than Shanks's because Luffy's future site is still very, very limited. You know? Where people like that one. Shanks has shown them, like, obviously, I'm saying, like, Shanks level, but he's able to see, I don't know, wide distance, but also, like, how much, like, the people he was, like, weren't even necessarily by him. The ships that were out there, you know? Because he would affect them. So, look at that. So, I think that's where hockey can, in a way, transcends all, because it's not just about one version of it. It's, like, all the aspects and what you're able to do with it, where it can overcompensate, like, other things that abilities have. Like, even taking away oxygen. Because that's, like, that's, like, crazy, you know? Because that's not necessarily an attack against you. You're just removing it from the air. But your observations should be able to tell you that, if it's, like, that adaptive core, what's going on. Okay. Griff, I'm going to try to get to some more. The caller's here, so I'm going to drop you there. But I did like what you said about hockey augmenting fruits versus being above all in that way. So, I like that. All right, y'all have a good one. You too, man. Thank you. Thanks for calling. All right, I put the rest of y'all's names in a randomizer, and Roxy Manny is actually the next name up. So, Manny, you there? Manny going once. Manny going twice. Donating early, man. Dimey, you too late. You're not in the randomizer, bro. Hate to see you in the middle of the field right now. Manny, you there? Yeah, hello? How's it going, man? Rapid fire. We got to get through. Try to get at least one more caller and talk to them. All right. Yeah, yeah. Well, we can get to the next caller really quick. I just wanted y'all to leave a good message for the community, because that's kind of, like, what I'm all about. Like, just leave that good message, man. Make sure. Inspire people. Make everybody feel good. You know? Everybody's on their own journey. Hey, man. Appreciate that. And thank you so much for being so generous with your time and money, man. You were donating crazy earlier. We really thank you for the big donations. Sorry we didn't fully understand what you were saying about the Frankie thing. But as far as a message to the people, Larry's so much better at this than I am, bro. I'm such a negative person. I'll say. I try to remind all the people around me. In my circle, like, look, hey, man, there's two types of people out there in the world. There's good people influenced by bad, and you got to remind yourself to do the good. And then there's the bad folk who kind of run with that, and they got to remind themselves to do good. And I know what side I fall on, and that makes me stronger. So all y'all need to do that, like, regardless of what side y'all fall on, just be the best person you can. Spread love, man. That's all I want to do. Spread love. Everybody got to spread love. I love that, man. I'd say chase happiness at all times. It's something that I do. We strive towards. Every decision I try to make is one that makes me happy, makes me smile. I think I've been blessed with a lot of things that have made me smile in my recent life and in life in general. So always be working towards the smiles, y'all. And not, like, the Doflamingo smiles. The other smiles. Yeah. All right? No, man. Hey, I know you like to give Larry his credit, but that was, hey, man, the dopest quote you dropped not so far long ago. I put a super chat on there. But, man. It ain't hard work if you really enjoy what you're doing. Sir, that is some realist. It's real, man. It's real. That is some hard, ugh, as a youngin'. Yeah, if y'all want. I feel that, man. I got more for y'all, man. If you want to make, you want to be happy, do something like we tried to do here where you're able to make money off of something that you would have been doing anyway. Or if you're able to profit off of something you were going to enjoy doing anyway. We were going to debate about one piece anyway. We were going to get into these same arguments that we were doing anyway. Like, we were doing this in the attic anyway. Yeah. When chapters dropped, we was arguing about one piece. We were able to do it. And shout out to Larry. Again, I give him all the credit in the world. It was his idea, but he was able to do this, cultivate it, and say, hey, you know what? Let's make this happen. Let's go for it. And, like, again, this is just something we were going to be doing regardless. And we take pride and joy in it because I get to see my brothers. I get to see Larry. I get to see them all. You know? So, shout out to Larry. Shout out to Larry. I know you're out there. That's real. That's real. Like, that's why the whole community feels that, man. That's awesome because, like, we all feel really, like, enticed to be, like, even us, the loners. You know, we feel like showing up for once and being like, hey, I got a crazy-ass opinion. I know, crazy. Sorry about that. But you know what I mean? Like, I love that. And it's, like, I love that type of community, man. I really enjoy this. Like, this is a type of thing I love, man. I appreciate it. I hope y'all can get to the next caller who actually has some theory or something. But I just want to let y'all know, you know, love and peace, everybody. Love and peace. Appreciate that, man. Appreciate you. Thank you. Yeah. That's what's up, man. Yeah, that was good. That was a good call. Hmm. When you get a five-hour super chat from Curio, it says, leave a message to Larry. We need that smile. Hashtag LarryTax. Yeah, man. Shout out to Larry, bro. The GOAT. All right. One more caller. Sunit was the next person on the list. Sunit. Talk to me, man. Rapid fire. Hit me. Yo. Yo. Yo. Lawrence, I love you, man. I had a quick question for you. Hey, what's going on, bro? What? What do you think is the strongest person you can beat in one piece? You should know the answer to that. Oh, my God. I know. All right. I'll say it like, who do you think is the strongest person in one piece right now? That you can beat. That you can beat. Who do you think is the strongest person in one piece right now? Who do you think is the strongest person in one piece? Well, I've been watching y'all for three years. So, accurately, I'll say something from the worst generation, like Hawkins. I think Hawkins is a good matchup. For me? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Hawkins. Hawkins is tricky, bro. Hawkins is tricky. Say Hawkins gets a dollar a beat. You still swing it? No, I'm serious. Hawkins gets a dollar a beat. A sub doll. You still swing it? You're not going to have no reservations? I think I can figure it out. He's not going to swing. Oh, he's got it, man. I think Hawkins can somehow surpass that. You know, I think Hawkins can surpass that. How? You know. Huh? He will. No, how on your end. Sebastian would have to be the one who has the hockey to surpass that. You're just going to hurt him with your hockey. I think my future dad would tell me. I'm definitely taking down Hawkins. Me, personally, for the answer to your question, I'm not losing anybody. All right? I'm taking down E-Mail. My name. Come on. All right? All right. That's why you're my favorite, man. Much love, man. Appreciate you. Sonny, you have a good night, man. I love y'all boys. I love you too. I love you too, man. I know they'd be wanting to have y'all on the call-in streams. I'm glad we were able to get to calls. Sorry, y'all. I put the names in a randomizer. That's how I dragged y'all up. So apologies if y'all wasn't able to get in. I'm still deciding as to whether we'll do a call-in stream tomorrow. I might just go to the Knicks game. So we'll see. But like the stream, if you guys haven't already, this was a dope episode. I know y'all are missing Larry. I was missing Larry today too. I ain't going to lie. A lot of talking about me today. But, yeah, hit that like button if you haven't already. We did get one more super chat that came in. 16 months at knockoff. I'm a status from King Peasant. It says, back from five years in the future, Magellan beats Green Bull. Oh, my goodness. Ah, man. L said, let's do a call-in. We might still do the call-in, man. If I don't go to the game, I'll do the call-in. There's going to be a last-second decision here, man. Prices are kind of crazy. Prices are kind of wild. I'm not going to lie. But, yeah. That's it from us today, guys. Hit that like button if you haven't already. We will be back next week with another stream. We will have a chapter to go over that week. Marv, work on your top ten strongest. If you can, I'll remind you. But, yeah, it should be a lot of fun. I know next week is, I think, Memorial Day for Monday. So, a lot of y'all should be off. So, pull up on us, man. And also, too, I want to ask, like, Odin versus Loki. Loki, bro. To be continued. You heard it here first, man. All right. That's it from us. My name is Seb. Law. Lionel. And Larry. And this is that one. T-O-P-T-D. I messed it up. Shut up.