Welcome to the other world. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. A couple months ago, a woman named Jennifer sent me a very brief email, saying that she had been holding on to a story for almost 40 years and hasn't felt comfortable sharing it with anyone. It's a story about a house her family lived in while she was growing up, a house that she believes altered the course of their lives for the worse. She's also always felt like there are missing pieces to the story, having to do with her mom, who passed away unexpectedly. Jennifer grew up in Waco, Texas, in the 80s and early 90s. This was a time of heavy metal, the satanic panic, and also it was the peak of the methamphetamine epidemic. And central Texas was a place hit hard, very early due to the presence of biker gangs that were cooking and distributing the initial versions of it. Jennifer will explain for herself, but that all plays a role in this story and it's what caught my attention early on. Another thing that caught my attention is that despite living through some of the extreme things that you're about to hear, Jennifer now lives a very normal life. She is successful and has a demanding corporate job at a company that I'm pretty sure everybody is familiar with, but I'm not going to name specifically. I would describe her as very professional and I think this story is something that's been difficult for her to keep bottled up. She told me that she wanted to just sit down, tell somebody the entire thing and then be done with it forever. And that's exactly what we did. I want to give a strong warning that this story covers many different disturbing topics that will be difficult for some listeners, so please be advised. This episode is called The Lake House, part one, and you're listening to other world. All right, Jen, how you feeling? I'm scared to death. Don't be scared. Well, I mean, the story is scary, but don't be scared of the interview. No, I'm actually, I'm not scared of the interview. I've reached out to you specifically for a reason, right? I don't know. Like I said, I just felt like if I want to put this out there in a form that is not like therapy or group therapy or, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm trying to, you know, just put it out there and not be in such a protective mode. I've been doing that for 40 years and I've just got to kind of trust the process and let it go. My name is Jen. I am going to be 44 years old in September. I have one daughter and I have lived in Texas my entire life for the most part. I've worked in construction services for 25 years, right? I've come along or come across a lot of different things and construction services is not necessarily, I'm going to go remodel my house and like pick from 15 different shades of white countertops, right? There's a lot of natural disasters just came through here and we've got to get this hotel back and up, you know, going. We just had a mass shooting and an apartment complex. We just had a gas line and, you know, exploded 40 units. It's a lot of weird shit, tragedy, things that you don't come across a lot because it's commercial services, right? I was hired as the contractor to go in and to clean these places up to renovate them. We did this after Hurricane Harvey in Galveston. We did this after buildings, I mean, just crazy things. It was hell. It was hell for a while because you are seeing these people being evicted, going to go in, make ready remodel, clean up the housing environment, whatever that may be so that they can turn those units for more people typically in need. I mean, a lot of section A properties. It was difficult seeing so many people in this position on a daily basis. I want to ask you in your email, you mentioned you had like working some crime scenes. Well, I mean, people kill themselves every day, right? You think about apartment complexes in hotel rooms and multifamily, multi-living spaces. There is a lot of tragedy. People cook in drugs and blow themselves up, right? Every time stuff like this happens, somebody's got to go in there and say, Hey, we have a suicide. Fix it. I would get units, maybe 500 to 1000 units at a time. Some apartments, some hotels, whatever it may be. And we were to go walk those properties, build out a scope of work, price it appropriately. And that is how kind of I got started in this. None of this scared me, not like the thing we're about to talk about scared me. I would take any one of these experiences over having to spend 24 hours in this house. So, my family on both sides for generations came out of Waco. Waco, Texas, you have my dad and his two brothers, all of his friends, my mom's two brothers, all of her cousins, all her friends, who were coming of age in high school, who were used to like, you know, listen to some black Sabbath or Led Zeppelin smoking a little bit of weed, drinking under the bridge, down at Lake Waco, like they were living the life. And then here comes on the scene, something called methamphetamines speed. And my grandma tells this story, you know, and she's like, Jen, everybody's got a drunk uncle. I had one too, and I thought this is what it was. And she said, I did not understand this for a long time because she said, when my kids were going through this, so were the children of everybody they grew up with. And us as parents were trying to figure this out. And she said, you know, your uncle Mike and his girlfriend, Jean at the time, they were 14 and 15 years old, came home. I guess all hopped up on meth. And she just assumed that they had been drinking on ice. So she said, I put him in front of the TV. And I made them some turkey sandwiches and chips and, you know, just let them watch a movie just so that they could dry out and just thought, well, they're hung over there. They're just not going, that's not what happened. They sobered up. And the next thing she knew, her wedding ring was gone. This was a wild time. So you had a whole generation that included my parents that just descended into horrific drug use. And it was because they had no idea what this was. You could snort it, shoot it, smoke it. Possibilities were endless and it was cheap. My mother came out of that. She was not a fan, but it took my dad longer. And by the time he got clean, things were so wild that they could not stay together. They ended up divorcing and we moved back in with my mom's mom. And she met my stepdad about three or four months later and they got married very quickly. He had come from a very similar situation where he and his ex-wife had started on speed and moved to heroin and he was able to just put it down one day and walk away and she was not.
And so my mom and him decided that it was a good idea to combine families. And so there were seven of us total. There were five kids and two adults. You have the oldest boy born in '77, youngest boy born in '79, my older sister who was born in '80. I was born in '82 and my little sister, my only biological sister was born in 1983. We were very close in age. There was not a lot of money to go around. So my parents worked really, really hard because they thought that government assistance was for poor people. And I'm like, hey guys, we're poor. And they're like, hey, no, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna work full time. But then on the nights and the weekends, we're gonna set up jobs to do farm labor. So it's no different than going and picking up labor out of a Home Depot parking lot. There was a gas station. Usually my stepdad would have our work assignments already pre-arranged. It was mostly elderly people that had large farms that needed help. Picking, shelling, cleaning out chicken cubes, painting fences, whatever it was that we were gonna do that day, that's what we did. They would pay my dad at the end. That's how we got grocery money. And that went for a couple of years and he got an opportunity to take a job in Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee, managing pawn shops. Another fun place to experience the Wild West. So he got the opportunity to take this job and they told him that it would have to be immediate. And we had just started the school year. I was starting third grade. And he did not want to move five kids at the start of a school year. So he ran in a room from a lady in Mount Juliet, Tennessee. And that is where he stayed while he was up there for eight, nine months preparing, looking for a house. His credit was shit. Nobody wants to rent to five kids. He was very desperate. And so he got in his head, well, if I find somebody that needs work done to the house, who this could be a win-win situation. I mean, maybe we could find something a little easier, right? So he's talking to this lady that he's renting a room from and she tells him, "I've got somebody that has a house. She just died and her sons are gonna lease the house out." And said it's right here in Mount Juliet, you can see old hickory lake from your front porch. Beautiful view, like you need to check out this house. Now, this was still at a time. Where long distance was a thing, there's no internet, there's no computers, there's no cell phone. But the long distance charges were so expensive that for those eight months, we communicated by tape recorder. So my dad would come home from work every night, hit record and he would just talk endlessly into this tape recorder. And then once it was full on one side, he'd send it home. We would all listen to it as kids. We would respond and record oversight B and then mail it back to him. That is how we had conversations for eight months. And in one of these conversations, he said, "Guys, I've found a house." The lady who had originally owned this house was a professor of some kind from the Middle East and I wanna say either Lebanon or Syria. She ended up adopting two boys that were orphaned from that war and brought them over here as 11, 12, 13 kind of young kids, sponsored them, put them through college. And the guy that we were dealing with, his name was Shippur. Shippur had the biggest heart out of anybody I have ever met. He was just the kindest, sweetest man. And he said, "Look, I understand you have five kids. I understand your credit is shit. Here is the deal I can make you." He said, "When my mom died, me and my brother decided to lease this house out. And we did not have a good experience. The lady that leased the house, it just, it wasn't good." It's what he said. He said, "So we're looking to go a different direction. We're gonna try a family. Thinking you guys will take better care of the home. We were able to trash out the place. You know, get all anything that they left in the house. But it needs to be painted on the inside. It needs to be cleaned. One of the bedrooms upstairs is full of all my mom's stuff. So that door needs to remain locked, leave it alone. And the second bathroom upstairs does not work. So you're really looking at, okay, seven people in two bedrooms in one full bath. So my mom got very creative and said, okay, upstairs there is a bedroom open. We're gonna give that to the oldest girl. You two younger girls, when you walk up the stairs and you get to the second floor, there is a massive day room. It's one big day room that's got these huge windows that look outside. You and your sister, we're gonna put your room on one side, hers on the other. We're gonna put the younger boy downstairs in the dining room. And we're gonna like create some privacy with some furniture to give him a room behind it. The oldest boy would take the small bedroom downstairs. And then my mom and dad decided that the living room would double as their bedroom. So we were all stacked up in that house, right? And we were lucky to have it. School had gotten out. We were probably there the first week of June when we rolled up into that driveway, right? And the two older brothers had stayed behind in Waco for the summer to help their grandmother clean out some barns and different things on their property, basically manual labor. So they were not with us for that first summer. Basically it was me and my little sister, my older sister Tiffany, my mom and my stepdad. We arrived on a Sunday. The next day is Monday, my stepdad's got to go to work. There was only one vehicle. We had one car at the time and we had no telephone. So we knew that okay, it's 630 in the morning, you're leaving for work. We'll see you about 7 o'clock tonight. We're going to be here at the house cleaning and packing whatever. And my mother was like a clean freak. Everything needed to be neat and clean and she would always tell us, you know, it doesn't cost you anything to be polite or clean, right? So she's like, I have no tolerance for anybody that cannot do those two things. It does not cost you a damn dime. And so we go into the house and we're kind of walking through talking about like, what do we need to do and this and that. And my mom is like, God, do y'all smell? And I'm like, yeah, mom, I do. I mean, it smelled like rotting meat, growing up, living off of farms. You knew what carcasses smelled like and that's exactly what it smelled like was you had an animal down somewhere on the farm that the wind was picking up, but it was all in your face. You could not, you would leave the room and it would almost follow you. So my mom was like, look, we're not unpacking anything right now. She went and got a big bottle, a bleach, she gave us each a rag and she's like, we are going to clean this kitchen top to bottom. I want every drawer taken out. I mean, she pulled the cabinets. They weren't fixed to the wall. The lowers weren't. So you could actually pull them out. They run wheels and clean and mop behind them and then put them back. So that's what we did for that entire day. My mom hooked up a record player. So at least we had music to work to and it really didn't help. Like nothing, it now smelled like dead bodies and bleach instead of bleach, right? So I'm like, hey, I'm going to work up the stairs. She said, okay, go wrench your rag out, go clean every stair all the way to the top. We get to the top of the stairs, the whole upstairs is also done in wood paneling. All the framing around the windows, around the door was wood, unpainted, original to the house. So all of the windows, all the baseboards, everything was wood. And so I cleaned my way to the top.
of the stairs doing what I'm supposed to do. And I get up there to the landing and there's a window time to start on the windows, right? And I'm thinking to myself, we're lucky to be here. My parents have threatened to give us the ass weapon of a lifetime if we break anything in this house, right? So I'm looking at this window and I see that they're all along the top in the side of the frame. It looked like somebody had taken like an exacto knife and dug into the wood as deep as they could. I go downstairs and I'm like, Hey, Mom, come take a look at this, right? And she does. And she just stands there for a minute. And she's not saying anything. And I'm thinking like, what's the deal? What's going on here? So then she starts to take a look around. And notices that these scratches are not only all over the window sills, all over the base floor is the window casing. There were scratch marks that started at the top of the wood paneling, came down through the casing on the window to the sill down to the floor. And I started to notice and I could see it clicking. And she's looking. I'm like, this looks like animal scratches. You know, and she's like, yeah, I just can't figure out Jen why they're eight and 10 feet long. Cats and animals usually scratch in a place, right? They'll scratch a piece of furniture. They find what they like and they'll scratch that and run away. And it's a deal. This is not that. I don't, I can tell she's kind of, she's wanting to stop this conversation. And she's just walking around looking at everything and she's like, hey, we'll paint it. No problem. I think it took us the rest of the day to wipe everything down. And it still smells like shit. What did we not clean? What did we not find? Was there something left here that wasn't trashed out? I mean, the refrigerator, the ovens that she cleaned everything. And so she says, hey, look, tells all three of us girls, we're going to do a second pass. I want you all to get ladders. Let's get up to the top, make sure whatever we bring those little stools up into the upstairs where it was the girl's layer. That's where we all stayed. I'm noticing that when I get higher up on the walls that there's stuff coming off. Little, little brown droplets like somebody had loaded brown paint into a fine mist bottle and just randomly sprayed it around, right? Now knowing what I know, having remodeled buildings and had to deal with not so fun things in life, it is bloodspray. That's absolutely what it was. And I told my mom, I'm like, there's all these brown dots all over the place. She knew exactly what the fuck it was. So she said, I'm going to clean this. Y'all go downstairs. We slept that night in a big pallet in the living room because it had AC. She cranked that AC down. Did our little nighttime routine and she said, okay, girls, we're going to hit it again tomorrow. And we did. Got up second day. Cleaned our asses off. Lunchtime comes and my mom says, you know, we've been inside. It's hot. We're trying to air the house out. So she had all the windows open and she made us some sandwiches and got a quilt and she's like, we're going to go out here and we are going to have a little picnic in the front yard because this house is on an acre. It's the most property that we've ever had to ourselves like think about the flowers and, you know, farming is our like family background. So of course, that's where her mind goes is I can't wait to see this in springtime. All these beds full of flowers and this and that. And we're just talking arguing about school, arguing about stop touching my leg. You're too close to me. Stop look at him. All the things, right? And we're sitting there just eating our lunch. And here's this lady walking up the driveway. She did not come by car. She was on foot and she looked straight up like an addict. Like just real skinny, no muscle mass. But she had on like a pair of cut off blue jeans shorts. Really, really sure this little tank top, she had very, very long hair down to like where her waistband would have hit that was dyed in like black and red chunks. And she waived and my mom's thinking, okay, this must be a neighbor or somebody out just walking. She was probably late 20s, early 30s. She looked like a drug addict. And I had grown up around a lot of drug addicts. Everything was fine until she walked up to our quilt where we had our little picnic. And she introduced herself not by name, but said, I am the last renter. And she makes small talk and just says, yeah, I just moved out and I left a piece of furniture in the house. And I wanted to see if it was still there if I could go in and get it. My mom asked her, what is it that you left? And I'm 99 percent sure she said a dresser, right? A dresser. And my mom is like, you've got no man here to help move this. You've got no car. What, right? What are you doing here? And so my mom tells her, look, the owner, Shippur, if you have any questions, you need to talk to him because he trashed out this whole house before we got here. And she did not seem disappointed and she did not seem like that was really why she was there. And she starts kind of making small talk about it's nice to have kids going into the house. You guys are really going to enjoy it here. And my sister had like this little shovel and pale like you would take to the beach to play in the sand. And this lady looks at it and just looks at my mom, just cold calm, no emotion. Whatever you do, do not even think about digging in those flower beds. Don't touch them, stay out of them. And my mom is like, well, Piennes actually grow in Tennessee. They won't grow in Texas. Like we've got a whole list of stuff that I want to put in the ground and grow so that in the spring, we've got flowers. She's like, I don't care. She said, I buried 19 cats myself between those flower beds and around the perimeter of the property. Do not touch those flower beds. And my mom just kind of took a breath and she was no dummy. And she quickly wound down the conversation and just said, well, you know, is really nice meeting you. We will take your advice. We will plant somewhere else. This lady just smiled and, you know, have a good day, turned around and walked off down the street, just walked. That was the only time we ever saw her met her had any encounter with her whatsoever. As girls are over there thinking like, oh, well, you know, they must have been indoor outdoor and just kept hitting back cars or maybe they were old and she euthanized them. Maybe they were sick. Maybe she was doing animal rescue and was just saving the sickest cats on the street and they kept dying. So like, that's where my mind is going as a fourth grader. That is not where my mom's head was at. My mom knew that she immediately from what we had come across in the house so far and then meeting her. That my mom's attitude got very, she didn't share as much. And I could tell now that she was trying to figure out what was up. This is day three, day two, whatever. I have bleached this house head to toe. There's not any carpet in this house. Why does this still smell like I've got a half dead animal laying in my kitchen? Right? She's starting to kind of put things together but not really. You know, but it gave her enough
pause that she asked my stepdad about it when he came home and he didn't really know anything other than the last tenet had been female and had wrecked the house according to landlord Shippur wrecked the house it's all he said so Shippur this was still and I mean you page your rent and cash or check he would come collect at the first of every month and it was her opportunity to ask him anything that she wanted to know without my dad being there where she could get direct responses without him filtering the information and he did confirm that the house had been full of trash that it was also full of dead cats and what he said is there were a lot of things here that were not of God all right we'll be right back after this quick break the wilderness can hide a lot but it can't hide the truth forever I'm dillia de amber a host of park predators and every week I investigate true crime cases hidden in national parks forests and beaches I follow every lead every clue and every overlook detail 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friends no telephone that that property was our best friend and we started to explore that property me and my younger sister especially and there were just some very odd things about this property that we noticed one was in the very back of the property there was an old cage that looked like it had been built for dogs at the very back of the property it was full of dead animals old dead animals I mean like I don't know if they had used it as a dumping ground or somebody moved and they left I don't know but it had been all grown up through vines and everything and we're thinking this is going to make an awesome playhouse but then you're stepping over skeletal remains and weird shit back there we're like you know what let's try somewhere else there was a tree that had been cut down that the stump typically when you take out a tree you usually don't leave four foot of stump sticking out of the ground the top of it had been completely leveled and the rest of the tree it was a big tree had been cut into three sections and arranged almost like somebody would put chairs around a campfire around that stump strange there was another tree in the backyard that had a natural knot in it that collected a lot of water I mean probably two gallons of water at a time it was a very very old tree that had things carved into it I still to this day have no idea what what that was so me and my sister like you know what let's go play at the lake across the street and we would take our barbies down there and build like little fairy rock gardens and all kinds of stuff and that's what we spent our day doing was being outside of that house right and my mom would be inside music blasting on her little record player unpacking and trying to get things where they needed to be she had picked up some furniture off of the trash line and she took it home and she laid it down on a sheet upstairs in my sister in mind what would be our bedroom just a sheet so she didn't get paint on the floor and she painted the face of it the shelf to give you some idea when it was standing would have been about seven feet tall and it would have been about four foot wide and she went back downstairs get some paint thinner heard this loud bang goes upstairs it's laying on its side she's like that's messed up nothing's open this is a heavy wooden shelf straighten out the sheet under it made sure there were no problems went back downstairs she said Jen I did not even get to the bottom of those stairs before it was knocked back over and this time it was done in a way that looked very unnatural like it didn't just fall over there was nothing else up there it just didn't make any sense you know so she's like I went up stairs and I took a number two pencil rolled it across the floor wasn't an even took a couple you know she tried to logically walk through could this be my imagination did I like she's trying to problem solve this in real time so she goes back upstairs puts it back up goes back downstairs for a third time here's the whole thing fall over and it's scared these shit out of her so she decides that she's going to come outside and sit on the patio calm herself down and that is really the event that started her
really noticing that there was something messed up about this house. There's something going on with this. And she tried to talk to my dad about it and he was like, "You're crazy. This does not exist. This is not a thing." She came outside and she sat on the porch for a couple of hours while me and my two sisters were playing outside, which was weird to us because we knew what we knew she had a lot to do, right? And she was not one to just come sit and watch us play. It was it was strange. That is why I remember that day not because I was in the house because of that shelf falling over. It scared her so bad that she actually stopped working and came outside. My brothers come and they see the new house. This was maybe a week before school started. Their rooms were set up, our rooms were set up. Everybody had a schedule. My mom was getting everything pulled together and we started school. Fourth grade. And it was a new school, you know, we were new students and would come home from school and it's you didn't have friends. You didn't know anybody, right? So it was me and my two sisters really playing. And we started to notice that we didn't feel alone. It felt like the house was full of a bunch of people that we couldn't see. Like it was really crowded. And I can remember just starting to be scared of things. Like you would hear things, you would see things, but it was a lot of like weird coincidences, right? Well Valentine's comes around and had a little desk like in my room. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, I have Valentine's Day cards. I am gonna fill these out. Everyone's gonna get a sticker. I'm gonna write there. I was just going through it, you know, the joy of Valentine's Day cards. And I'm laying them out to see them all in person, breaking them apart, making my list. And the next thing I know on the left side of my neck and my face, it's like somebody got real close in discharged breath, not just like breathing in and out, but forceful. Like I could feel breath. It's like a panting dog getting really close to you and you can feel the warmth and the moistness of breath. And it's on you. Like somebody yelled in your face, like you can feel that. That is the last time I ever played up there alone. And I went down and I told my mom, she just looked at me and she said, you know, Jen, for our family in particular, the door between this life and the next has always been open real wide. Don't worry about it. It's probably granddaddy checking on you. It could, you know, just let it be. So she's trying to like hype me up. Like she can tell how scared I am. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, we're cool. And I get my sister and I'm like Sarah, oh my god, please come upstairs with me. I'm gonna finish my Valentine's Day cards and I don't want to do it alone. And she's like, okay, but only if you play Barbies with me. And I'm like cool. So the entrance to the staircase was in the kitchen. Weird place for a staircase, right? But it was in the kitchen. And when you went straight up the stairs, the only thing that you could do is take a left because to the right was a full-length mirror on the wall. Straight in front of you was a dead end. It was a wall. You take a left and it opened up to that big day room that was me and my little sister's room. That is where we played Barbies. And when we went back up we noticed that everything had been moved around. And this started to happen a lot. Things were not where we left them. And of course that turned into me and my sister arguing, well, you made this. No, you changed her clothes. All the things that little girls argue about, right? But it didn't make sense. It just there were some things about this that did not make sense. We go to bed. It's either that night or a couple of nights later. I woke up in the middle of the night just awake, right? And I open my eyes because I feel like somebody is there. And I open my eyes and there is somebody standing there to the left side of my bed. I could not figure out features, but it was in the form of a person. It just looked like a big person standing over me looking down. Me and my sister's beds were parallel to each other. I could look directly at her bed. She's there sound asleep. I look back over to what I just saw and it's not there, but there are heavy footsteps and walking in our bedrooms in that big room hardwood floors throughout. It's like it would walk to my sister's bed. Look at her, walk around her bed and then come back and do the same thing with me. Just all fucking night long. There were no closets in that day room. So me and my sister both had rolling racks where our clothing was hung. Like the sound of somebody brushing up against those clothes. The sound of the wood floor creaking. The sound of somebody descending and ascending the staircase. And I'm just like something is really wrong here. And I start to talk to my little sister and my older sister about it. And it turns out that they have been having very similar experiences. And I would take all of my stuffed animals and surround myself with stuffed animals to the point that they touched. So I was completely surrounded by stuffed animals. How I thought this would keep me safe. I had no fucking idea. And I would wake up in the morning and one of the animals would be like sitting across the room neatly on my desk. And things really ramped up from there. Like night time became the worst time of my life. Because it was very, very active. That brings us to the end of this episode. We will be picking up right where we left off in the next one. This has been the Lake House part one. And you've been listening to other world. Other world is executive produced and hosted by myself, Jack Wagner. 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