Episode 109 - Who Will Replace the American Empire? Simon Dixon vs Professor Jiang

You're watching Capital Cosm. My name is Danny. It is January 9th, 2026, and do not adjust your mobile screen, your television screen, laptop screen, whatever you're using to watch this episode because we've got two of the biggest heavy hitters on the Fintwit Geopolitical Space. It is Professor Zhang from predictive history and Simon Dixon from either Bitcoin OG Investor as well as he has his own YouTube channel as well, Simon Dixon as well. So, Jens, I know you're heavily respected and you're respected fields, and you know, with the way things are happening right now, it seems like we're witnessing a change in the world order. And the last time I interviewed you, Professor Zhang, you had your own idea on where the trajectory was heading. You posited the notion that we were heading into a Pax Judeca world, transitioning from Pax Americana to Pax Judeca. Simon, you had a bit of a different take. You see, you actually see Israel being treated as a toxic asset and eventually leading to a GCC-led Middle East. So, I want to kind of reconcile some of the differences here and kind of get your takes on how you view one another's thesis, but we'll start off with you, Professor Zhang. For those who may have not watched our last episode or any have just been not been introduced to your work on Pax Judeca. Yeah, just a brief overview on your Pax Judeca thesis. Right. So, as people know, there's a war approaching between Israel and Iran, which will probably involve the United States. So, Nanyahu visited a miracle a week ago. And suddenly, you have these protests over Iran and they're escalating. And Trump has said that he will defend the rights of these protesters and he will promote democracy in Iran. So, it seems as though we're heading towards a showdown in Iran. If Iran falls, then my argument is that what we merge in the Middle East is Pax Judeca, where Israel will become the nexus, the focal point of power in the Middle East. It will be powered by its technology, its surveillance state, its access to international capital, and its control of trade routes. The Levant really is a center of global trade. And so, if you're Russia, you want to access the African market, you have to access it through Israel. If you're China and you want to access oil and Middle East, you have to do it so through Pax Judeca. And Pax Judeca will be responsible for rebuilding Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq. And so, this is really a fulfillment of the whole prophecy of the Greater Israel Project. So, that's my grand thesis of what will happen next 10-20 years. All right. Well, thank you, Professor J. Simon. If you don't mind giving us your version of what comes after Pax Americana and how you see things unfolding in the Middle East. Yes. So, I follow financial flows and then financial flows are allowed to access strategic choke points and resolve strategic choke points and give you access to technology as well. And so, I come to a slightly different conclusion in that when I think about American power, I think of America is a country that is subordinate to its bondholders because it's in a massive debt crisis. And they're using that debt in order to prop up the stock market, which gives more power to corporate interests. So, effectively, America has no sovereign power left. It is fully co-opted by corporate interest. And when you look at that corporate interest, you can split this more, but you can split it into three or four very powerful factions. One is military, which used to dominate American foreign policy. But military became public companies and became subordinate to financial power because it needed access to capital and Pentagon budgets. And so, the military industrial complex was became subordinate later to the financial industrial complex, which gave rise to the technical industrial complex where algorithm and everything and access to data became more important, but still, the technical industrial complex is subordinate to the financial industrial complex because it needs access to capital. And so, that's what I think of America. Now, when I see Israel, I see Israel as representing Western interest as a money laundering organization to test a legal technology and destabilize the Middle East, but the money ultimately always comes back to Western corporate interest. So, it represents Google and Microsoft and the main Palantir and various other giants that host themselves on the U.S. stop market. So, historically, the goal, the strategic goal of America propping up their global Hegemon was to always allow for never no unification across the Middle East so that there could be an Arab League and a Persian unification around oil resources. And they executed that using Israel, Turkey, Iran and Qatar, where they would essentially through covert operations proxies that were on opposite sides and build military bases in each of the respective regions, but then use Iran as a boogie monster to have strategic tension between Iran and Israel that caused all the problems and all the wars. That funneled off trillions of dollars of profits that propped up the dollar. And basically, now, what is changed right now is a rising power has risen to close to military supremacy, financial supremacy and technical supremacy, which is China. And so now, America, where we find ourselves today, is they are energy and oil exporters that compete with the Middle East. And China is the manufacturing base of most of the world. And so, Chinese money purchases is oil of Middle East and countries and other regions as well, which funds Gulf Sovereign wealth and Gulf Sovereign wealth has made a partnership with Western power. And that Western power is not the military industrial complex, it's the financial industrial complex. And so when you look at the fact in a power around the world today, you have a Chinese manufacturing base in Chinese money that can strategically weaken its currency in order to dominate, you have Gulf Sovereign wealth and you have Western financial industrial complex. Now, we are made to look like everyone's at war with each other. But actually, they are unified more than we have ever seen in terms of resolving the world and splitting it up into pieces. Now, at the very same time, America right now has done the same operation on Israel. So, Israel is nationalizing its country, which means that it's burdening itself through death, through these wars, and then privatizing all of its interest into Gulf Sovereign wealth funds and the Western financial industrial complex, propped up by Chinese money and the Chinese manufacturing base, which means that effectively, the Middle East and Sovereign wealth funds have managed to negotiate leverage by partnering with the Western financial industrial complex. And their goal is that Palestine will have a state, it will be subordinate to the GCC, and Israel is being strategically acquired and burdened with death. However, it is now leveraging what resources it has, which is its intelligence and its technology to be useful to the financial industrial complex. So, what we get right now is optics that makes it look like the world is moving to World War III when there's massive coordination and resolution of all strategic points in the world, a movement to multi-polarity, and a changing role of Israel from a destabilization to being co-opted by the banks to provide regional stability so that they can make money out of the Middle East while Western financial powers diversify over to China, the Middle East, and the Global South. Excellent. Well, I'll let Professor Jane respond to anything that he'd like to on that front, but I'd also like to pose a question for you, Professor Jane. When Simon mentions a GCC-controlled Middle East or transitioning away from an Israeli-dominated Middle East or a GCC-controlled Middle East, does it really matter if it's GCC or Israel? If Israel controls or has huge influence on the GCC, Israel doesn't need to conquer the lands physically of the Gulf countries. It could just have just undue influence within those confines. It sounds like I guess what I'm really trying to ask is, doesn't Israel have influence within the GCC or do you see it in light of what Simon just alluded to that the GCC could be breaking away? Are there signs that the GCC is breaking away from Israel? How do you respond to that? Well, I've always understood that if there were, if Paxchiddiodeca were to come into being, then Israel would be the Hegemon, and Saudi Arabia and UAE would play a, would be partners to Paxchiddiodeca, and that's how I would perceive it. So, I'm, first of all, I'm uncertain what GCC really is because, as you know, Saudi Arabia and UAE have had some prolific conflicts these past few days, and I'm really uncertain how GCC would organize itself. Would it be like a commonwealth or would it be a Hegemon because Saudi Arabia would see itself as really the leader of the GCC? Is that correct? Yeah, so, I think we move into a collective sovereignty where people have different skills, and so imagine an Israel that is no longer backed by Pentagon budgets to destabilize the region, and instead is utilized for its technology, and then, as we have seen, technology becomes subordinate to financial capital. And so, the Gulf countries are essentially, they've been unifying and playing different roles. This is very apparent in Yemen right now. So, UAE, which is a part of Abraham Accords, and Saudi Arabia that has said we won't join until Palestine is recognized as a state, and we have the two-state solution. They get to play a good cop bad cop. And so, UAE, in this equation, the wars are essentially, the military is dumping Israel by burdening it with massive debt, and its debt to GDP is going up and up and up. It stocks are going up and up and up, which is privatization of the resources. And then there'd be an acquired by the UAE Solver and Well Fund, playing bad cop, and making it look like they lick the boots of Israel, while Saudi Arabia is playing good cop, and the Western media is making it out like Israel rules the world. And so, when you have, for example, making APAC look more powerful than the military lobby, financial lobby, insurance lobby, technical lobby, APAC's like the 15th number, you know, in terms of money lobby. But when you make it look like Jewish American billionaires within America, they utilize APAC to fulfill their financial interest. And by making APAC look like it rules the world, you get these great narratives. As America is a falling empire, they get to say we would never do a side, it's just those pecs, those Jews, and you get to blame shift everything on Israel. And don't get me wrong, you know, what Israel is doing is fundamentally evil, I'm very against it. But I'm looking at where the money and whose interest they're actually serving. And so, the Gulf countries have built alternative payment rails. They've reduced the petro dollar to the petro yuan, about 70-30 right now. China have built with Iran and Russia, these rails, a kind of like a credit system where you can sell goods without avoiding sanctions. Saudi sovereign Well Funds have been buying like refiners in Texas. They've been buying, you know, the many strategic partnerships. And so, through their sovereign Well Funds, they're effectively acquiring what they need to run a collective sovereignty. And then they're unifying with Turkey and Egypt, which are providing military capacity. And then eventually, as they join this unification, they have a collective power where no one controls everything, but they're all unified around technical and financial rails that the Gulf has essentially built out. Okay. So, I have certain questions. My first question is, what is the coordinating mechanism? What I mean by that is that traditionally, how these sovereign, sovereignty are run, usually there's a leader, a king, or maybe there's a religion, or maybe there's a common enemy. So, my first big question is, what would be the coordinating mechanism of the GCC? Or another thing this is, why, what are they trying to achieve? Financial unification, whether historical partner, stroke, enemy, Western imperialism, and Russian imperialism, are all unified because you've got the real powers, which is US, which isn't a sovereign state, so you've got corporate interest. Then you've got China, then you've got Russia. And, you know, these are the real powers that are calling shots. Now, they've partnered with Gulf, sovereign wealth because they control factions of the Petro dollar because Saudi is able to produce a barrel of oil for 5 to 10 dollars. America needs the price of oil to be above 40 to 50 dollars to be able to remain, you know, not end up having all of their companies go bust and sold to sovereign wealth. And so, the only thing that keeps them unified is their common interest, which I think the financial industrial complex, the Gulf, sovereign wealth funds, and Chinese money have made it where all of their investments perform well because of this collective flow of funds, rather than now each individual country gets to have their own narrative, their own religion, their own leadership. And I believe even right now Iran is on board with this vision. They've got their own internal issues due to economic warfare. But I believe that any war and the 12th day war was to take out the IRGC members as an inside job that needed in order to move towards this new collective vision. And all the proxies are being dumped right now where they either unify, get eliminated, and essentially Israel is being, if you look at what America and Israel has now become, they have become the military for this unification of financial interest. They can go and take Venezuela oil, but the profits flow through Chinese infrastructure, Gulf, sovereign wealth, and Western financial banking interests. Okay. All right. So, I understand. And so, let me use the historical analogy to see if I can understand what you're saying. Okay. So, 1688 is the global revolution. And that creates the Bank of England, the Sea of London, Transnational Capital, which runs the world today. So, why was the Bank of England created? Well, because you have all these warring parties in Europe, the Habsburgs, the Catholic Church, the Dutch Republic, and their leaderships needed to keep their wealth safe, right? Especially the Dutch ease in these companies, the VOC. So, the Dutch and the English criminal agreement where this wealth would be transferred to England for safe keeping. And this created the Bank of England, 1694. And this ultimately led to the creation of the British Empire. So, is that what GCC will be where Transnational Capital, because of all these wars going on, because of all this instability in America, in Russia, in China, Transnational Capital is looking for a new host that would be safe. And that would be far away from all these wars. And they would establish a new entity in the GCC. Is that a fair analogy? Yeah. So, even if you look at the British Empire, what was the British Empire, as you said, it was the private interest, which was the British East India Company. It was the government, which is you enslave it through debt, until its bankrupt, and the Bank of England, which was the privatization of the resources and mercantilism, where you steal all the world's real money, through printed money. And so, you take the gold from India, you take China's, silver, through opium wars. But in the end, they end up with the hard assets, and the corporate interest ends up with all of the stock assets. And the government just becomes the piggy bank. They repeated that exercise with the US. The government is the piggy bank, BlackRock and Transnational Capital, and State Street and Bangalod are the British East India Company, ending up with all the assets, and the Federal Reserve is owned by the banks, and now the banks are owned by the money managers as well, as well. So, you've got this stateless Transnational Capital, which I think it's always been. We've just had the illusion of nationalism previously, which was just a utility of building an army under the guise of religion or religion or army. So now, you've got this new Transnational Financial Capital, and they essentially call the Charts, and they're deciding which zones are going to be the war zones. Middle East, they have regional stability. China is going to have its growth story and manufacturing base, and America is going to be civil unrest, and Europe is going to be sacrificed as a war zone. And so, military are moving from the Middle East over to Europe, and Financial Capital has got a new partner, which is China, the Gulf countries, and America just has its capital markets, and use its military industrial complex, technical industrial complex, and financial industrial complex, but it's Transnational, it's superseding borders. Okay, I understand. Okay, so, it seems to me our disagreement is this. You think that they will relocate to the GCC, whereas I think Transnational Capital will center itself in Jerusalem. So, let me explain to you why I think Jerusalem makes more sense for Transnational Capital than the GCC. First of all, Israel, the CEO of Israel, has a wide network of Jewish diaspora, right? So, the Jewish diaspora everywhere, and you look at the presence of Mexico, of a lot of places, they're Jewish. So, if Israel were to become passenger to Judeca, you could leverage this wide Jewish diaspora to benefit. That's number one. Number two is Mossad. Mossad is the most effective intelligence agency in the world. So, in the late world, if there's anyone who opposes you, you don't have to actually have to go and sort of war. You can use targeted assassinations, you can use blackmail, you can use surveillance, and that's what Mossad is very, very good at. That's point number two. Point number three is Israel is the only country in the Middle East, which has nuclear weapons. The GCC does not have nuclear weapons. That's a huge advantage for Israel, and that's what keeps Israel safe. Israel has a central option where if it feels threatened and it nukes the world, not its enemies, but the entire world. So, that's a huge advantage for Israel, and I don't think the GCC could ever compensate for that. Number four is that Israel has to manage human capital. Israel is one of the most educated societies in the world. Where would you find the human capital in the GCC? Saudi Arabia, due by Qatar, it imports most of its human capital. So, if I'm going to search out capital, why would I go up to the GCC and establish all this knowledge infrastructure that I would need to run line of prize when I could just go to Israel, which has all this human capital. Some of the best universities in the world are based in Israel, and then the other element that I think it's very important is the eschatological element where you have a lot of these societies, the Freemasons, the Jesuits, the 17 Frankus, who believe that Jerusalem will be where the new world government will be based. So, I saw a lot of problems if I based all my financial capital in Jerusalem. So, I don't understand what the advantage of the GCC would be over Jerusalem. Yeah, so, if you look at what's happening right now, is BlackRock via Saudi Aramco who has a board seat on one of the executives is now a board member of BlackRock. BlackRock is setting up their office in Saudi Arabia. You've got many of the banks that are relocating. China just did, Saudi Arabia just did their bond offering with China. It was denominated in dollars, but it was done via Saudi investment banks, and China also did a bond offering. So, all of these alternative payment rails and alternative financial rails are being built. So, what's actually effectively happening is you've got Western financial interest that is unifying with this this Gulf capital. Now, in terms of the the nuclear power, so here's what I think. So, there is no, well, there is as a tiny Israeli sovereign world fund. Now, its assets are being utilized by this financial industrial complex, but none of the value of what Israel's building is being maintained to keep Israel sovereign. And so, it is just like America, just becoming a tool and a utility for greater financial power, and that greater financial power is not consolidated around just Jewish power. If you look at global wealth right now, the last study that was done, and you can question the data, about 55% of global wealth was affiliated with people that called themselves Christians, 36% atheist, which obviously accounts for the rise of China. And then you've got about 6% to 8% Muslim, and I think about 6% Hindu with the rise of the Gulf countries and the rise of China, India. And then it's about 1% to 2% of known Jewish wealth. Now, is that correct? I don't know. And there's all of these trust companies structures that could make that data fairly inaccurate. But I do believe all Israel had will be integrated into this GCC and this Abraham Accords Union that is being built. And that is, and so all of those tools, which we even saw, for example, Israel had that $35 billion energy agreement with Egypt. Now, that creates a dependency upon Egyptian revenue when America's no longer going to be funding some of that revenue. You've got to, it will be integrated into these rails. And so, I don't see it becoming. Now, the nuclear question is a very good question. My personal belief, and I can't prove this, and it's just a theory, is obviously the way the nukes were, well, the nukes were achieved by Israel with the assassination of JFK and the taking over of New Mech and the creation of the deep state when Mossad and CIA became more integrated. But my personal belief is that Israel is a wrap of the US military industrial complex. The US military industrial complex controls the deep state, but they are also subordinate to this financial industrial complex. And so my guess is that Israeli nukes would still have key dependencies upon the same type of infrastructure that runs the US nuclear program as well. Can't prove that, it's just a theory. But I don't think Israel is sovereign and as powerful as we are led to believe. Okay, so let's focus on Saudi Arabia. I'm trying to answer a cap, I have $200 that I want to invest, okay. But Saudi Arabia has something called a line. And I'm not sure what the budget was, a $200 or something like that, okay. Which was this, this like linear city in the desert. So if I'm trying to answer capital, you know, and like, I'm a very smart guy. I'm not some questions. My first question is, why would they come up, why would they, what would they have these ideas? Like, like, what is the rationale for the line? That's number one. Number two is, how does things get approved? Is there no process in which architects and experts can tell the leadership of Saudi Arabia? The line is absolutely insane. Don't do it. Are there no checks and balances in Saudi Arabia? That's number two. Number three is, if you're an investor in the line and they cancelled a project, how do you use your money back? I mean, like, and like, I'm not investor, but I'm just saying, like, you know, if I have $200, I would want to know these questions. How do these projects get approved in Saudi Arabia? How are these projects conceived? And what happens if these projects will sideways as well as what has happened with the line? Sorry, did you say line? I didn't hear that. The line? Yeah, I think it's got a new on the line. Okay, I'm not too familiar with that, but a particular piece, and I'm not too familiar with them, but my guess is that, you know, the Saudi sovereign world fund has had Western consultation. You know, they do this fire an investment committee, but obviously it's a centralized power structure, which is why they're able to make strategic investments that make sense for their unification around these hostile powers. And then they've unified with other gold sovereign wealth as well. But yeah, I don't necessarily have the answers of how investment decisions are made, but they have had lots of Western consultations, so it's a centralized power structure. Please look at this. Okay, the line. Okay, it's a straight line. I haven't heard on screen Simon. Yeah, running across Saudi Arabia. Who came up with this idea? It's only insane. Oh, right. This is the large building. Yeah, the, yeah, no, it's literally, it's literally a line. It is literally a line. It's literally a line. It's supposed to be like a city within a line, within the middle of nowhere in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, I have no idea. Is the answer to that, but what's the wider point here? Do you spend billions of dollars on this thing? Okay, and it's going nowhere. Yeah. Well, one answer to that is, I guess you could say, what is their projection of power? Their projection of power is the ability to show how much financial firing power they have. So you have a massive PR blitz around these crazy and failed projects. And maybe they were never meant to happen. Maybe they were meant to be abandoned. I've got no idea. Maybe they've made bad decisions in the past. I'm not really here to show for Saudi Arabia's investment decisions. Let's look at another example where they spend about a billion dollars on bringing Ronaldo to Saudi Arabia, right? Yeah. And the stadiums are empty. So I mean, like, if I'm sure I'm just a capital, you know, and I have billions of dollars, why would I invest in GCC when they do this sort of stuff? Well, they're not investing in GCC. Basically, what's happened is you've got the ability to raise capital, which is Western financial markets and capital markets. And every single deal that geopolitically and strategically is happening right now, including the acquisition of all the key artificial intelligence technology, all of the fund raises every single major investment that's happening, all the IPOs that are happening this year, whether it's XIA, whether it's SpaceX, all of them have gold sovereign wealth funds in every single transaction. So clearly, BlackRock and the financial industrial complex have decided that collectively, they're going to be aligning financial interest with the gold sovereign wealth funds. And that has provided a conduit between Chinese money, which is the partnerships that Saudis doing with China. And they're sat in the middle as they build out all these alternative payment rails and various other things. So I think real power, and I'm not saying the Gulf is the power, I'm saying real power China, which to some degree rushers become dependent upon, and US, which is Western financial power, they've decided that the gold sovereign wealth funds and the Middle Eastern corridors and the energy that's needed for all of these artificial intelligence projects, that the Middle East is going to be included in that. And they get to set the price of oil to a greater degree, while China has built massive reserves. But they've been utilizing all of these different conflicts in order to acquire it cheaper. And then America has now become an energy exporter, but they can't compete with the Middle East in terms of the cost base. If they need to combat inflation by pushing down the price of oil, which seems to be one of the strategies, like inflation in America is being tackled by replacing jobs with AI and robotics, charging more tax through tariffs, which takes money out of the money supply, and also getting down the price of oil, which bankrupts many of the Western oil producers that can't produce at those cost base. So inflation is being clearly controlled. But again, it's sovereign China, sovereign wealth in the Middle East, and then Western financial industrial complex. That's every transaction you'll see right now is being invested through that rail. Right. So my question then is, fine, if the GCD writes all the checks, that's great. But that doesn't really conflict with Paxudeca, where the capital is Jerusalem. All these things are made out of Jerusalem and the Saudis, the Qataris, the Emirates. They're just investors in this enterprise, and they can get really good returns. So I mean, is there a conflict here where Jerusalem is the capital? Where Paxudeca is really the control center, but the GCC are just the primary investors in this enterprise. Yeah, because the way I view it, and I may be, my opinion is worth, you know, a dime a dozen, but the way I view it is that anytime you have like these air strike spats between Iran and Israel, it's always the GCC countries coming into intercept Iran's missiles, but never Israel's missiles. It seems like there is like a some sort of coalition around Israel to the point where they're effectively just vassal states for Israel. No, I mean, so if, and I don't think this conflicts with your thesis either Simon, because it's effectively saying that, like Professor Jang just said, they would just be like the financial wing of the broader Paxudeca vision in the Middle East. I mean, they would still have their sovereignty and everything, but they would, they would be largely controlled by Jerusalem. Yeah. Yeah, so I, well, so firstly, I don't think that the Western framing of that their subordinate to Israel is the correct framing. Israel represents military interests, and now financial interests of American power. And so they are subordinate to originally military power from the West, and now financial power from the West, because BlackRock and the West and powers managed $30 trillion of assets. The Gulf countries manage $5 trillion of assets. That started as complete subordination through 50/50 partnerships. Over time, they manage to maintain some of that wealth. And so, you know, through they're not subordinate to Israel, because Israel represents Western imperial power. And so the technology, for example, they only do the illegal blatant stuff they couldn't do in America via Israel, and then it gets acquired into the Western capital markets. The value doesn't maintain as Israel as a sovereign state. There's many Israeli billionaires that get to benefit from it. There's Gulf, sovereign, wealth funds that get to benefit from it. And the key dependency is obviously all the strategic choke points as well. But what I'm saying is that Jerusalem being a capital find that that can totally work out. But in terms of Israel as a jurisdiction, maintaining all the power as the new power of the world, I don't think it's an accurate representation of the collective sovereignty that is needed across the region, with Israel being a small country with a small population that is incurring higher and higher level of date, that privatizing more and more of his assets and being gobbled up by Western and Middle East and financial powers. Since around the topic of GCC, I want to get your thoughts on what's going on with this conflict between Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Catch us up to speed us to what's going on and how this plays to your thesis. Yeah, what I think we're witnessing right now is the optics of we're about to go to regional war in World War III. When the reality is is that there are different powers that are unifying more than we've ever seen and everyone's dissolving all their territorial disputes. So, if you look at Syria right now, Jelani ex-Isis, he was installed by Turkey and the GCC and immediately he gets an invite to go to the White House with the Trump administration, right after the meeting, Trump goes and meets with all the banks and financial institutions and then they start constructing the like 50-year land deals and various other things in order to lift sanctions. And so, there is a negotiation between Western financial powers and the region that is using their relative areas of strength and at the moment the big change right now is historically the West has used Turkey, Iran and Qatar to fund Western, well to fund proxies to destabilize the region and in obviously Israel and Iran, the enemy is the narrative. What we're seeing right now is I think Iran has stepped back. They've abandoned the proxies. Qatar was the one that was funding Hamas for the last 10 years. Qatar is an ally of America with the largest Western base and so the proxies right now are gaining territory for various factions of power, which is Turkey, which is the Gulf countries which is Western financial interest and everyone in a coordinated fashion just like I think Venezuela was coordinated with Chinese powers, Russian powers, American powers and various other factions of power. They're all being resolved one by one so all of the proxies right now they either integrate, get eliminated or they serve the interests that they've been paid to serve at the moment and so in the case of Yemen you've got the Hutis which have historically been funded via Iran you then got Saudi and UAE that had interest and Saudi and UAE they historically pay good caught bad call and so what I think we're witnessing is just like the 12-day war we're getting a bit of theatre where Saudi will end up the main power over Yemen and then at the same time you had Israel recognizing Somali land. Somali land is dominated by UAE investment and so in that particular case Israel recognizing it supported UAE interests at the same time as Yemen escalating and then at the same time Turkey which is mainly representing many of the Syrian interests as well as the Israel and Kurds that represent Western financial powers big oil and various other interests. Turkey got Somalia at the same time in the West you had all this controversy with Somalia and the the scambian revealed and so all this to say is that Turkey's interest in Somalia UAE's interest in Somali land Saudi Arabian interest in Yemen Iran is engaging in I believe shedding some of his IRGC hardliners and all of the proxies have been eliminated and integrated because the Gulf countries and the Western financial industrial complex the Western are using Israel gain as much land as possible give us as much leverage so that when we're negotiating Syria we're negotiating Yemen we're negotiating Lebanon we have as much power as possible to get the best terms and all of the regions are being divvied up now that Middle East the strategy is regional stability because essentially China normalized between Iran and Saudi Arabia so you're getting the shedding of all the proxies. Professor Jain I want to ask you a similar question as well where do you see the fate of the Middle East heading at least in the media term it looks like things are coming to a head pretty soon between Iran and Israel the internet went out yesterday the phone lines have been cut off in the protests you know I don't know what to make of these protests I don't know how legit they are we're in the fog of war it's all sia up and you know I'm sure there's CIA and Masad you know deeply embedded within these protests as they found using starlink and so forth but do you see this as the as a grand finale between the Israeli Iranian conflict here does this is this coming to a head here pretty soon. So we're seeing in Iran as a classic color revolution playbook right where you flood information space you control information space where you infiltrate Iran you co-op communal networks ethnic minorities as many different groups as possible you embed Mossad agents there are Mossad agents on the ground right now there are U.S. Special Forces on the ground right now because we know we know this because police officers are being shot uranium police officers are being shot but the last step to the color revolution which is most most pivotal is your capacity to co-op the security services right so in Nepal the security services were arrived and they sort of just disappear so that's the question how loyal is the revolutionary guard corps to the regime and I think they're very loyal so I think at the end of the day there'll be a lot of bloodshed this real my intervene with euro campaigns but the regime will still stand so so the big question is what's going to happen in Iran if if some is theory is correct and I think what will happen is that some end points out these factions that are opposed to the rise of the GCC they will be eliminated and leaving behind a regime that is very much cooperative so but if the war becomes very nasty and it draws in U.S ground troops then the entire Middle East could be on fire right because at the end of the day the GCC is just an oil field that and Iran has basically developed its arsenal to destroy the GCC it has drones it has ballistic missiles it has proxies the Houthis Hesbalah that are still standing and if the GCC were to enter in a conflict with Iran then Iran could very quickly wipe out the GCC so I'm not sure how much of this is theater how much of this is coordinated because if if things go sideways then Saudi Arabia UAE Qatar could find themselves in a lot of in a lot of trouble and another thing is is that China just lost Venezuela as a source for oil now they've shifted some of their exports from Venezuela to Iran should they lose Iran that would be I mean that would be pretty counter I mean Trump did signal that he would allow China to buy oil from Venezuela but it would have to be in U.S.Ds but still nonetheless losing a source like Venezuela and then Iran who were supplying it a good deal of oil I mean wouldn't that be a big deal for them for China both Russian China cannot afford to lose Iran if Iran would be lost and the Russia's southern bank would open up Russia could not defend its southern flank it's having a problem with right now against the Europeans right so if it's fighting both the Europeans and its southern flank is now opened up because Iran is lost then Russia would be in a lot of trouble so there's no way that Russia would ever allow Iran to fall on a fight that's Russia China gets 50% of its oil from the Middle East it gets 4% of its oil from Venezuela so yeah it lost Venezuela but that's 4% really matter but if it were to lose Middle East 50% of its oil would be gone China's manufacturing capacity would collapse it couldn't infinity to own people in these oil to run its food production facilities so the idea that China and Russia would just allow Iran to fall without much of a struggle I mean I find it hard to believe I mean basically if Iran falls the American empire has won and it now controls the world it controls the oceans with its navy and now it controls the the heartland the Eurasia because it controls the pivot point Iran it's able to control all global trade but if Iran were to survive then not to threat to the U.S. empire because now what Russia China and Iran can do is build a railway network built a belt en route north north south corridor what whatever you call it that would preclude the United States so Iran really is a pretty much question and I don't think that Iran is as fragile as people believe it to be Iran is a huge huge country you have lots a lot of different ethnic minorities there are lots of areas that Iran doesn't bother governing because really there's no point so if Russia is able to infiltrate these areas in established spaces then Iran would accept that remember during the 12th day war Mossad was able to establish spaces inside Iran without these apartments which were these jaw-making facilities so so yeah I think it's easy for Mossad to infiltrate Iran the problem is that does it have the capacity to actually engage in a sustained war against Iran and survive yeah well Simon I want to ask you this may also bolster your points as well and that is you know one of the common threads between all of these toppled regimes like Venezuela well hasn't been toppled yet but the head but you know the you know what I mean the head of state has been you know kidnapped and they largely seem to be under pressured under the thumb of the United States now Syrian regime was toppled last year Libya it was toppled 10 years ago the common thread is that they don't have nukes you look at North Korea the big reason the probably the only reason it's still around today is the fact that it has nukes now one case one may make in the fact that Iran is heavily compromised or is there there may be there may be you know people within power in Iran playing along with the West and and so forth is that you know they've basically insisted not to build nukes on the basis of this fatwa that really doesn't make any sense because just by having a nukes doesn't mean you're necessarily going to use it you're not going to take the lives of innocent civilians but does having a nukes does provide detente it does provide mutual assured destruction nonetheless whether you actually deep down will use it on civilian infrastructure or not it does provide detente so what's the what's the hang up here with Iran on not building a bomb is it's it's subversive or there's subversive elements in Iran that are just using like a religious rulings to stop Iran from having protection to to keep the the U.S. and Israel on the west of bay here Iran is both incredibly weak but has strategic leverage points and choke points which is utilizing right now historically it used this proxies in order to gain leverage but now I think we have an Iran that has already been regime change remember the helicopter came down during the last operation the central bank changed its leadership I believe Iran allowed for or didn't react to the Hezbollah Pager attack and decapitation I believe that Iran has already abandoned the proxies that's that's already happened they are complying they've worked with China to build a de-dollarization barter network of flows where oil can flow despite western sanctions and it doesn't need dollars in order to clear so they're important to China's relationship and at the same time there has been a union around transnational capital which is you know China sovereign wealth Gulf sovereign wealth Norwegian sovereign wealth and the western financial industrial complex they all are in line with the same thing which required changing what Israel and Iran do and so now you're witnessing operations to change what Israel and Iran do and at the end of any tip for tack that we're about to see which won't be Iraq you know it won't lead to Iraq full blown war it will just lead to weakening of Iran and Israel Israel will be burdened with debt as a result of this which is their debt to GDP went up significantly that creates dependency where later you can acquire assets you had port bankruptcies the basically the Red Sea was shut down that's causing financial distress in the economy and essentially Iran has a very strategic point with the straight up for moose now that is effectively what these these different choke points in this new multi polar world is what's being negotiated and so by having a war that looks like we're about to go to world war three but is highly coordinated essentially Iran is outsourcing factions of its trimming of IRGC hardliners to Israel Israel is going to suffer the debt burden Israel is going to be weaker financially at the end of it but all are cooperating with the greater powers because Israel has changed its role which is rather than being military industrial complex destabilization campaign is moved towards debt as much leverage for the financial industrial complex while we negotiate regional stability and so Israel works for the banks where historically it worked for Lockheed Martin before Iran is cooperating with transnational capital it is shedding its proxies and in order to achieve that I don't think this was all coordinated I do think there was a currency war waged through sanctions currency manipulation by transnational capital that created an inflationary cycle severe economic distress for for many and also they had to prop up much of their power through corruption and so combined corruption with currency crash with inflation then you have an organic bottom up and then you also have the co-opting through the traditional color revolution but to me the greater powers in Iran they are cooperating and I think this is part of the cooperation so I think it will remain internal they are cooperating with China cooperating with transnational capital shedding its proxies and everybody is on the same page that there will be regional stability in the middle east because that's what's needed to usher in all this vast energy vast artificial intelligence vast robotics infrastructure and the China and American power leading up to their meeting in April have already decided what the world looks like we're not witnessing chaos we're not witnessing witnessing splitting up the world as greater powers have already agreed and Trump was installed to execute this he's not Trump's polytariff policy was black rocks policy to split the world up Trump looks like he's making all these spontaneous decisions but he's fully subordinate to the financial industrial complex every policy that Trump does has helped this transnational capital and the the private sector is becoming more and more power and the state is becoming more and more burdened with debt so Trump represents that interest there's mass coordination here and I think it's or it's just this is we're witnessing the execution professor I'm going to ask you the same question is there a grand bargain here not the same question but I'm going to piggyback off of the point of Simon is making is there a grand bargain here at play secretly under the table because when President Trump or the U.S. military kidnapped Maduro there wasn't really any pushback for any at all from China and Russia we just seized one of their oil tankers Russian oil tankers a few days ago no pushback from the Russian they did launch a resonance into Ukraine until a leave though pretty heavily but yesterday Trump was being interviewed and he's and they asked him when the reporters asked him about Taiwan and they asked him if if if China was looking to take Taiwan soon and President Trump replied back by saying well that's really up to President G whether he wants to or not and if he does and I just won't be happy about it so he it looks like a wink and a nudge to China just to just go for it it seems like a deal may have been made the U.S. takes Venezuela China takes Taiwan maybe even Russia takes Ukraine do you see a grand bargain here are there signs of a grand bargain right so let's assume there's a grand bargain where Russia and China respect the Monroe Doctrine and Trump controls the entire western hemisphere it takes over Canada it takes over Vietnam okay that's that's what what's the atmosphere Russia is allowed to steam roll Europe in Ukraine and it absorbs Ukraine Ukraine back into Russia right China is obviously Taiwan okay this sounds great in theory but let's look what happens in practice the Chinese sorry the Japanese Prime Minister Taki Etchie has said that Taiwan is considered a Japanese strategic interest what does she mean by that what she meant by that is that if Taiwan were to be re-adored back into China then China could embargo Japan Japan depends on most of its oil from the Middle East it goes through the strait of Malacca and so if Taiwan were to be absorbed back into China China could now just blockade Japan and destroy the Japanese economy is Japan going to take that chance probably not so if there's any possibility that China and Taiwan were to sign a re-execution agreement I guarantee that Japan would invade is that it has to be no choice in the matter if Taiwan were to be returned to China to panic would basically accept this as crisis and the same would be true if Taiwan were to be part of Japanese alliance so what Trump is really saying to both Japan and China is you guys need me I don't need you guys okay China if you're going to be time go ahead and see what happens to you okay so so so the idea that the United States is going to seed any part of its empire that it's going to just retreat to what what's going to spread is just nonsense if you look at the natural security strategy it's very explicit that the western hemisphere belongs to America it doesn't care about Europe anymore and it will challenge China in Africa and it will work with its allies to contain China in East Asia okay so rather than the United States takes the pivotal role in East Asia let Japan do it because Japan has actually no choice in the matter so there's no grand bargain here it's just peer power politics and what we're seeing right now is a complete collapse of the actual system where it's every man for himself you know the idea that you have these alliances still around are going to hold I mean it's possible today China is with the United States tomorrow Japan and try to get together and attack the United States okay anything is possible now it's it's all up in the year because right now there's just great rush for resources especially oil and water and if you don't plan ahead for next 10 20 years your people could starve and that's the crisis facing the entire world you know I mean like Simon's idea makes a bit of a sense but I want to ask him this question okay and it's really important question for me what happens if the outside mass is destroyed in the next two years what would what would happen to the Middle East if that would happen that's a great question so shall I finish off the China thread and then we'll go to that and then we'll go to Venezuela so just so we can move on from the China one so I don't believe that China will hostile take Taiwan it only works they're happy with strategic ambiguity status quo is what and if there were a unification it would have to be because Taiwanese leadership was either regime change or wanted it or something like that but I do believe that the West wants the world to think that it's about to happen so it can sell more weapons to Taiwan Japan and the Philippines but then you've got to look at what the tariff policy did the tariff policy was a reset of everyone's relationship and so since the tariff policy we've essentially seen strategic theatrical divorces all around the world and what we had what we're now seeing is that ever since liberation day April the second when Trump launched he said we're going to liberate the essentially he liberated the world from the dollar so the dollar lost 11% of his value in 2025 which historically is significant because currencies like Hong Kong and Saudi and many others that peg to the dollar they now have to sell their treasuries and they have to sell their gold to maintain the peg they're not going to do that forever they're not going to drain their gold reserves but they aren't going to sell their treasuries and so now we've had an exodus so the largest lender to the US government primarily is Cayman Island which just means BlackRock effectively because it's not Cayman Island as a sovereign nation then it is UK who's suffering will suffering austerity potential IMF bailout real estate correction you know UK full subordination to BlackRock and Blackstone and financial interests so it will need to sell those or maybe it's just so subordinate you can't even make a sovereign decision at the moment and then you've got Japan Japan has been selling their treasuries and then we had the breaking of many pillars that procured the dollar so you had the petrol dollar being strategically weakened with the petrol you want you had the breaking of the peg by weakening the currency you had central banks all around the world by and gold you had the silver operation where silver essentially did a bit of an embargo I'm sorry China essentially did a bit of an embargo even though that was a long term strategic plan and at the same time Japan started hiking its rates for the first time and that breaks the Japan carry trade so why is Cayman Island the number one lender to the US government because it borrows those from the bank of Japan at 0% and it creates derivatives to hedge out the risks and so the Japan carry trade is now being strategically weakened and that's pushed up the price of the long term debt JJBs which means that Japan is going more and more independent and stop being used as a piggy bank for Western financial interest then you had the whole national security plan basically saying Europe is no longer important which breaks the euro dollar now interestingly throughout this whole thing the London stock exchange stock market has gone up European stock markets have gone up the American stock markets has gone up Venezuela and stock market is through the roof all stock markets are going up and the debt is increasing this means everything's being vassalized into financial industrial complex power and the countries are being burdened with the debt and Japan's moving more towards independence which means that negotiating with bricks corridors is less important on the American side and as the dollar gets weaker and weaker and weaker it means that American exports get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper now what's going to happen in America at the same time well they're not going to rebuild their manufacturing base they're going to rebuild their AI and robotics base so there'll be lots of unemployment and various other things now so I believe that China and America already reached the deal and it was before Trump and Trump was installed to implement tariff policies to execute that then leads to a series of theatrical wars that shed all the proxies resolve the issues Russia gets half of Ukraine blackrock gets the rest Europe is sacrificed and goes into austerity and distressed acquisition of all assets the military gets to make up for additional profits the ECB in the Bank of England gets a print and other trillion dollars it props up the US stop market and we get mass extraction of resources in the west and the fight transnational capital gets all of those deals and financially aligns these strategic blocks so I don't think you'll get escalation within Taiwan that leads to economic chaos for absolutely everybody there's no there's no interest in there I don't know if you want to comment back on that and then we can go back to Alux Amal's convent Venezuela yeah I can be agree with you about your second on Taiwan I don't think the military conflict will be over Taiwan but I think there'll be conflict between Japan and China right so China has recently considered it's recently considering limiting its rare earth exports to Japan which is not forced Japan to establish we establish supply lines elsewhere so I think that's the real conflict in East Asia not between Taiwan and China but between China and Japan and that's because both see each other as long term adversaries and their history shows that yeah it makes sense so I think Japan, India and China are all pushing for their respective new role in this new world order but I don't think anything escalates into something so bad that it looks like a military conflict I think they will financially resolve what regions of influence and what sphere of influence and what resources they get to use rather than going to anything military. Well I have to say that Japan has a history of militarism it is it is a warrior culture they're very proud of that fact and Prime Minister Taki Achi with her Nationalist rhetoric has become extremely popular in Japan so I think it is possible that there's a conflict between Japan and China in the horizon and I think a lot of it is that Japan is dependent on trade for its resources China is self-sufficient you know if America would have embargoed China with the first island chain tomorrow the Chinese will still survive China will not pour but China will still survive but if China will embargo Japan then the Japanese would starve to death and that and so the Japanese would never ever allow that possibility to arise so so I'm not as optimistic as you about Japan I think that over the next few years even possibly over the next few months you're going to see a lot more conflict between China and Japan. Actually I think I want to concede this one to you is Japan is not an area I've thought too much about in terms of military but it actually makes total sense what you just said because Japan is kind of in the same situation as Europe in that it could be what sacrifice is traditionally been used as a proxy for Western financial power it has its own the difference is is it has massive surplus and so it's not as weak as Europe and as you said it also has its own military capacity so I could see exactly I think I concede on this one I could see how Japan and Europe could be where military industrial complex make up for lost profits that they may not have achieved through Middle East and various other conflicts yeah so I think I've I've thinking through a point another point I will make is the aging crisis in Japan it is a huge problem in Japan so they wait 10 years they won't have the population to fight any wars so it's other it's either they go in now and establish military dominance in Southeast Asia or those are styled out in like 10-20 years time and it's a huge tell a huge tell sorry didn't mean interrupt a huge tell is the government is pretty much thrown in a tower there doesn't seem to be any urgency to solve the aging crisis that the demographics crisis is having kids I think the government seems to have been resigned to the fact that it's pretty much over much so so what a war would do is galvanize the population right the like listen at the end of the day I think that whoever wins the 21st century is the first nation wealthy nation that's able to solve the aging crisis right so look if Japan won't engage in a war then millions of their youth would mobilize and anyone over 80 would basically agree to commit even Asia okay that's the culture of Japan right so yeah yeah this makes total sense that Japan and Europe can be proxies for basically having because of Japan's debt situation although it has massive trade surpluses and assets which makes it different to Europe they can be used as proxies for transnational capital to really gain as much control over assets as possible so that it just completely fits in with the equation on the demographic issue which kind of brings us over to everyone that the demographic issue is an issue everywhere with the exception of Africa and parts of the Middle East and so if you look at the highest birth rates right now it's only Africa that's still having their children which is why I think that you know Africa is a very interesting region because China dominates you know Russia has engaged in proxies and whenever you see these ISIS al-Qaeda, Boko Haram that's Western interest China destabilize and so there is a possible I'm very bullish in Africa overall if it's able to work with China and European powers and American powers I think China will give somewhat of a predatory deal but its track record has been allowing a country to build itself up obviously support a nation and massive tide contracts to have the resources that are needed but I think Africa might actually you know the China model of we've got the exports we need the rare earth minerals we want to diversify away from American debt-led consumption which is just getting less and less significant and we also want to build our own internal consumption but because Chinese people in general they own their real estate they have savings whenever there's a financial crisis in China it's not the same as a systemic debt crisis in America because the Chinese banks are mainly state controlled so it's debt to itself and its population just start eating into its savings rather than the whole credit system imploding so many people compare PBOC to the federal reserve you can't compare the two so the debt crisis is less significant but it's having its impact on internal Chinese consumption and so building up regions like Africa and the Middle East and actually allowing them for the first time in a millennia to potentially actually use their resources build their own factories and utilize their own labor because they have their the only ones that don't have the contracting birth the the diabolical birth rates at the moment and I have more hope that Africa might be way more prosperous in the future and one of the highest growth regions Simon go ahead and answer Professor James initial question about Aloxamask what happens if it if the Israelis blow it up or someone blows it up yeah so I think that's kind of the linchpin about whether my thesis or your thesis is correct because if it turns out Israel does rule the world and they control the personal strings then they will have the autonomy to rebuild the third temple in Aloxamask and nothing would happen and Israel would become more powerful if I'm right it won't be allowed to happen because Western financial powers that do control Israel wouldn't allow them to do that unless there was something very strategic and I don't think it serves regional stability so it's kind of like the linchpin on on who's right around power dynamics so but I don't think Western finance would allow it to happen but I think it's real rules they'll do it so I can leave your analysis and I'll give you some data points and you can research the these data points if you want but the first data point is that they brought in some red hat first which is what you need in order to consecrate the grounds for the rebuilding of the third temple and there's news there's rumors that they've already sacrificed the red hat first and that's data point number one data point number two is a temple institute has actually already constructed the third temple brick by brick and and this is looking this is waiting for the time to when when the Aloxamask has destroyed so that they can just move the third temple into its proper place so these are two data points that I've heard I cannot verify it like either this information but it seems as though they're getting ready yeah so um I think um if that were to happen then Israel is more powerful than than I my analysis has thought if it doesn't happen then I think Israel is a proxy for Western financial power um and that's how I know whether I'm wrong or right on this thesis I think yeah yeah my what I'm what I'm a little bit I can't backward any of this up with evidence or data but I believe that uh real powers are not like Zionists that are acting out of religious belief I think they're in a network of power that requires conquering of all resources um and it's somewhat you know through Jeffrey Epstein blackmail operations is somewhat of a reinforcing power structure because everyone's compromised you can't rise to power unless you're compromised and so therefore through these blackmail networks no one can default from the power um and the the you know we're not for example seeing um the exposing of the Epstein network the strategic leaks are still being used by power in order to make sure everything's moving in the direction they want it to go by leaking various bits but never exposing the the full picture um but uh you know so uh there is a self reinforcing power structure I think it is transnational um and uh yeah I think I like some mosque is um it is really the the linchpin of this um I think to to help us under um there there is also a you know this transnational global power I think there's a power struggle within that uh because historically you know military was the basis of the power and it was aligned with the country and it was nationalistic so the American military industrial complex was nationalistic um transnational capital is global in nature so I don't think it aligns with any one country and I don't think it's run by ideologues uh that want to bring the back and a Messiah and a motivator by religion so what I what I think they're doing is they're creating a mechanism to make those that believe in to the end of time prophecies in both evangelical Christianity Judaism and Islam they're reenacting it so that they can galvanize an army to make it look like we're reaching an end of time prophecy um which is a recruitment tool for the various factions of power and army um to create a divide and conquer strategy and so if you're right and Israel rules the world then they will bring in the end of time prophecy but the real power won't be doing it for ideological reasons you'll be doing it to create a divide and conquer between those that believe in those end of time prophecies uh to create absolute carnage world war three and usher in maybe a global central bank digital currency powered by AI and social credit scores you know that's that's kind of that way or we're going to multi polarity and we've got strategic interests um you know these are the two directions the world's going I think Professor Jane I want to ask you a question and I think this is where you and Simon may agree on as well and that is the end of Pax Americana what we're seeing today in America uh you know we have these protests that are now popping up over this uh Minnesota building this uh girl by ice and uh last night we had protests erupt in New York um the the west coast in Minnesota uh all over the place and then you've got the white house pretty much in you know you know you can you can be pro ice you can be pro and uh you know pro deportation all this stuff but it was just a very cold response and they've been very callous about it and everything it's this this seems very inhumane um over the killing of this lady and it seems like they're trying are they trying to create civil unrest it's just it's just some sort of dialect and dialectic in place are they trying to bring about the conditions for martial law what's going on within in your view you know as a person from the outside looking in what's going on uh internally here in the United States and then what is this leading to exactly it seems like president Trump may be setting himself up to cross the Rubicon in some regard are we out of a republic to do an empire yep that that's exactly it um so if you look at empires and how they fall whether it be the Athenian empire or the Roman Empire it's a similar pattern where there's internal carqueos where and there's this military imaginism over overseas and this military imaginism creates a demagogue like Jewish Caesar who is able to seize the imagination of the people and then cross the Rubicon and that's what we're seeing right now in America where you know when it's well up it's really about the display of data force and um you know all this rhetoric about war ethics and all that I think Trump's trying to create military faction that is loyal to him and to him only in very much the same way that you know when Jewish Caesar sent his army to Goll Goll was this great plundering campaign which enriches soldiers who were very poor and they made these soldiers finically loyal to do this Caesar which is allowed him across the Rubicon so I think that um you'll see um Trump using special forces more especially data force and that builds loyalty to Trump personally you'll also see ICE deploy more throughout the United States in order to create all the civil chaos in order to justify the deployment of the National Guard remember there's just plan to deploy the National Guard in all of these states but this year um and and and like the and like this conflict where you know ICE agents are battling local residents that's the perfect pretext for it um I see what happened in Minnesota as a turning point something that um we should also watch out for over the next few weeks and I I worry about this um is the possibility that Trump partners Derek Chauvin who was the police officer who was in prison for basically um strangling George Floyd to death which is what ignited the um Black Lives Matter protests during the first Trump term and what Trump would do that is to basically um you know give his middle finger to the left right and and remember the George Floyd protest is it happened in Minnesota as well so from a theatrical perspective and you know Trump loves theatrics this is something that he would do in order to ignite a civil war um and even if that would have happened just the I mean America right now it's it's a powder cake right because you have these ICE agents who are basically a hostile force who've been sent into kidnap members of community and these members of community these local residents feel besieged by ICE um who are masked who are not accountable to anyone and who are both the law and so maybe in the future you will see random shootings of ICE agents on the streets um it's very it's very odd with us because most people don't know this but Obama deported three million oh yeah people yeah he didn't make a big stink about it like he kept it a hush hush like but they're going out of their way to like at least it's like they're trying to get the left to do something look at the only day Trump is a king of chaos and as executive um if there's chaos he can impose martial law by by deploying a natural guard he can he can declare war against other nations he can I mean there's a lot of power uh when chaos arises and so Trump um thrives in this sort of environment um he loves all his attention and like the word that I mean like like you just look at like Trump through the first and the second term something that he's very consistent on is he tells law enforcement and his soldiers you have to get rough okay just google that Trump saying get rough and you'll see like he's seen us all this time to police officers during the black lives matter um protests um and and and and and so when you do that um you're creating the um conditions for a four-scale civil war because people don't like being shot at people don't like to feel as though they're besieged that this is why we have to have the American Revolution so um I'm not sure if it's intentional um I'm not sure if it's it's part of a larger um plan a larger conspiracy to eventually you know move all the transgender capital to the GCZ or Patrick Deca whatever okay but um I think the trend is pretty clear I I think that you will see sustain um civil conflict throughout America and again this is how empires collapse um and and and and and as the economy gets worse and worse um as the um violence um committed by ICE gets worse and worse then um there's civil conflict we we'll we'll just get worse and worse Simon you're take on the situation in Minnesota and all all over the United States yeah so in this um essentially the the larger operation that I think transnational capital one is to shrink America into a regional power maintainers liquid capital markets weaken the dollar and hedge globally um and split the world up into multi polarity that's what I think the financial industrial complex wants under the financial industrial complex you have two factions of power military industrial complex is more nationalistic um it wants to make America great again um through brute force and through showing strength you know um and really tap into the American you know we've got to blow them up we're great we're the power might is right but then you have a more sinister which is the technical industrial complex uh they want to usher in a social credit score a digital ID a central bank digital currency a stablecoin standard they want everyone to put their Bitcoin in custody um you know they want to use technology to gain um this global network of technological power where they make the media irrelevant because they can control humans through algorithm um and artificial intelligence and then they can score everybody um and they can essentially take over military through um covert operations of cyber security um and integration into drones um and all of their technology is what they beta tested through Israel uh they basically did the service in Gaza occupation as a service in West Bank um they did pre-crime in UK where they were arresting people for social media posts they did open border close borders immigration policy in Europe um they did um uh crowd control through palantir controlling Hodgian Saudi Arabia um they did integration into drones um in Ukraine um and so their technology was beta tested around the world in order to come back home and build a prison state in the West because they know that civil unrest is how they gain power they were the net beneficiaries from COVID uh they were net beneficiaries from you know and so the the finance guys were the meant beneficiaries from the global financial crisis the tech guys were the net beneficiaries from COVID um and at the moment they're subordinate to finance because they still need access to capital but if you can re-create control grids then you can control global capital you can control military um and so there is a power struggle between the real factions of power that finance might become subordinate to technical control grids um and that's a real power um and so if you look at who Trump represents he needs to use military narrative in order to make the American factions think America strong but who does he work for he works for technical and financial he was funded by Elon Musk, Bank of New York, Mellon and in the Israeli side is Maria Maidelston but his number one backer was Elon you know in Elon relies upon Pentagon budgets deep state integration he was allowed to buy X um by borrowing against his X stock he got a loan and he co- and he co-invested with Gulf countries so you can see this um this power structure in this power grid and internal conflict and so Trump is doing what he is meant to do he is weakening the dollar and all you need to do is look at all his investments he's got mass debt to the largest bank in China high CBC he's building all his Trump towers in UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia um he's uh you know um he's got affinity partners that was funded by MBS and ran by Jared Kushner uh Jared Kushner's investing in Israeli settlements buying many Israeli assets um and also bribing Trump to say that you can get a chunk of Gaza um if we can get this two state solution and so he's fat he's satisfying the requirements to move to the next phase of this regional stability which is what finance wants as well and so they want to weaken the dollar to reset the world order uh technology wants to take over and so civil unrest is the perfect way of doing it um so there's many all Trump does is he's an agent of chaos um because his job is to deconstruct everything that propped up the dollar when you take out USAID that was all the covert operations through the National Endowment of Democracy that propped up the dollar when you allow when you rage war with Japan and they start increasing their interest rates that's taking away the banker Japan carry trade when you rage war on Europe and start saying they're the crazy um um you know um then you you break the euro dollar um and when you create peace in the Middle East you break the petro dollar um and so Trump is perfectly executing all of that in the narrative of make America great again which is causing the civil unrest that's needed in order to usher in the police state and think of 9/11 as a precursor for um you know the Patriot Act and the wars that they wanted to rage in the clean break memo that's what's happening right now um in in America so what they're doing is they're using the algorithms to drive you into the narrative that meets your map of the world so if you think everything's a Jewish conspiracy you can go on X you can go to a space and you can listen to people that will tell you how everything evil in the world is the Jews if you believe that um it's because Qatar is funding and Muslim brotherhood are terrorists then you can go into a space and all day they'll tell you how Qatar funding is all this problem and that the Muslims are about and then you get Muslim brotherhood they're about to do an invasion via ISIS and Hezbollah and al-Qaeda basically um if you want to far if you want to go into the Taka Carlson which is more like the white nationalist Christian male narrative you can go over there if you like the female Christian um nationalists then you can go over to Candace Owen if you're more extreme you can go over to Nick Fuentes uh basically they're using algorithms and accelerating people into boxes so that you get presented with everything that makes you hate the other faction more radical left right Muslims Jews all that stuff uh so the algorithms are really galvanizing um civil unrest because they want to usher in um a surveillance day and remove the constitution one step at a time so i agree with almost everything that someone said except on one crucial point trump seems as though he it's been controlled by these powerful forces but i think trump has his own plans if you look at his entire career he's never really worked for anyone he's screwed over everyone he's worked with so maybe that's a plan but i think trump has his own plans so what does it see what happens but i'm betting that um this plan blows up in their faces because trump does not like taking waters he has a huge ego yeah if you look at trump's history so he was mentored by Roy Cames and his family was married into Charles Kushner Charles Kushner was kind of Roy Cames and Charles Kushner were Jeffrey Epstein before Jeffrey Epstein um and so Jared Kushner and his um daughter uh they were married and Charles Kushner if you look at the court documents he basically blackmailed his brother by hiring a prostitute and agreeing that he was going to release uh blackmail operations and trump had to marry into that family he made his wealth at New York if you're in New York you don't get access to deal flow unless you cooperate with um powers that's the Jewish mob the Italian mafia uh the blackmail operations and then you get access to capital in the real estate tykeens just really quick Simon this is uh this was actually posted by the the US Department of Labor official twitter account last night and it's basically it's basically says trust the plan with a silhouette of trump there obviously paying homage to the QAnon stuff but very odd for a government agency to post something like this i don't know what the the meaning behind it is but uh yeah trump trump is really galvanizing the qtods that think that like trump is like gonna have uh be a wild card um and come out and this is just to normalize when everything is chaos um they're normalizing the trump cult and that's why he personally was i think he was chosen for this role because he has a cult following he has the qtod sire up uh he has the magnet narrative while the dollar's being weakened and basically he can switch every narrative into making it look like this is about making america great again but if you follow all his money his money is invested in multi polarity he's long bitcoin with his children because he's short the dollar um and so he knows what he's doing um and he is uh personally i believe he's all theatrics and he's um he's the perfect person for the role and and he's doing everything that he needs to do for uh the tech powers and the financial powers um and making it look like the military are uh as powerful as they used to be and venezuela was the perfect um operation to do that like it requires 200 billion to 400 billion dollars of investment to take advantage of um venezuela's oil shavron and ex shavron can't do it they already they were already in venezuela and they were already buying um selling oil to china and maduro had already agreed that the venezuela and people and there there'd be no venezuela and sovereign wealth funds um and sanctions were just ensuring that the venezuela and people and the government couldn't get it um and when maduro went went it's either two things it's either you agreed to this new faction of power that consists of all the powers russia um china um and this transnational capital they agreed what was going to happen um and i don't think there would be much pushback on that um and either maduro is involved in that and and therefore he coordinated and he's going to get a good deal he'll be very rich is all his financial flows have figured out he's got all that bitcoin and stablecoin wealth from selling the oil via the crypto networks um and uh or he genuinely didn't consent to what greater powers wanted and so therefore he was taken out but under the consent of all regional powers so this is not confrontational china russia they would agree to this and i think they uh they've been negotiating they've been negotiating um and uh you know they they get what they get i don't think this is uh i don't think there is a genuine hostile war there's a competitor between china and american powers um but i think they're agreeing one at a time and it's not going to end up in world war three professor jeng i want to get your comment on what transpired last week with the extraction of maduro uh there just seem to be some deals in place underneath the table what's your overall prognosis on what's going on in venezuela and on top of that you had president trump also mentioned that they're ready for ground uh attacks on the mexican cartels as well so your larger view of things transpiring in south america how does china figure into all this is china willing to depart from its investment in south america here as uh we look to be securing a don row doctrine so to speak so um trump is scheduled to visit china in april and um i think trump wants a grand bargain with china meaning that um trump needs china to continue to buy us dollars so what trump needs to do before april is stabilize the western west of hemisphere and show the world that the western hemisphere belongs to uh america and he did that um initially with uh this raid in venezuela but he but and he will continue these attacks against mexico against columbia he still he will continue to threaten um greenland um he will probably help him the partitioning of canna you know aberta will eventually vote to succeed from canna in j american states so all this is to show china bad america controls when it was in hemisphere this is important because china relies on the way what was in hemisphere for copper lithium silver rare earths that are crucial for the um AI industry for data centers for batteries for eevee for robotics so china china has to come to an agreement with uh america and i think china will because look china had had reinvested bills of dollars into venezuela and it really wasn't getting that much from these investments because venezuela was corrupt it was being sanctioned by the united states so china's able to access more oil in venezuela under american leadership then china's probably happy to ink a deal um and the idea that america will send in these oil companies like exon into venezuela as something points out it's ridiculous because it's too much of an investment for these american companies but chinese companies will do so and chinese companies um already old tens of billion dollars by the venezuelans anyway right so i think the grand bargain will come in the place where chinese companies will go into uh venezuela and marionise the oil infrastructure to allow china to extract more oil resources as well as mineral resources from venezuela and china will pay united states a privilege of doing so in us dollars and this will also hedge against the possibility of a war in the middle east because china gets 50% of its oil from the middle east so if there's a war in the oil and and china loses oil supply then it can just pivot to the western hemisphere from to buy more oil from can in united states and venezuela so i think that's the grand strategy here and i think that china is perfectly happy to go along with this um i don't think china the entire chinese leadership is happy with this because it causes dependency on the united states but as something points out there is a faction in china that it's beholding the transnational capital that part of this grand alliance of transnational capital and they're perfectly happy to to go along with this arrangement interesting Simon what's your view overall just what we just saw last week with the extraction of maduro what's the larger ramification here for south america china the us russia as well i mean russia has presences in there as well pretty much the same your response to the professor jang's response and your overall take as well yeah i mean the western hemisphere is a thing and america will dominate and be a regional power but they're no longer global hegemon they aren't global hegemon now they get to exert force that makes them look powerful but the sacrifice they're making is the dollar so this becomes really interesting in the april meeting because if you look at the dollar by dxy which is a basket of foreign currencies even the worst of the worst currencies like euro's um you know it's still lost 11% over to that basket and that basket is dominated by euro's so you can see that this is all about asset stripping by utilizing the government to take on more debt pumping that value into the stock market while weakening the dollar and that's exactly what i think this transnational capital are doing right now and so the government debt goes up stop markets go up the price of the dollar relative to foreign currencies gold bitcoin and silver goes down in a gradual transition just like that 10 to 20 year periods um between the uh the british empire and the american empire um that's what i think is happening now bringing that back to venezuela um did you want to go through your chart before i cover venezuela no i was just i was just showing the gold chart just to kind of exemplify your point yet the the the gold chart's gone parabolic silver is going to be more parabolic oh i just looked at the dxy at the start of the screen share here where's that uh dxy also looks like it's breaking down below support as well it's currently a 98 uh let's see yeah 90 or 90 it broke through 99 but you can see here you know it's broken through oops yeah it had a bit of strength on the venezuela action the the stock market loved venezuela including the venezuela and stock market which by the way is rule them the venezuela and stock market has just a tight knit of i'm sure maduro aimed a chunk of it but it's like a few financial institutions and banks uh mainly insulated so it's it doesn't benefit the venezuela and people but there was a massive like pump in the venezuela and stock market after this action um so all these stock markets are being pumped with government debt um which is historically end of empire territory so transnational capital we use the dollar for as long as it's useful um it wants to keep the liquidity of the us stock market and it wants to extract everything out of the american people the european people the canadian people the australian people um and the the brit so that they uh fully owned by you know this power structure and there's no searching as america first britain first europe first australia first canada first and even israel first i think israel has been put through the same operation of subordination um to to this capital structure now venezuela is pretty interesting um because what will probably um what will probably happen is it makes america look great again it shrinks the world into a regional power um the southern hemisphere we get more and more operations but what's actually happening here essentially finance said trump go use the military to get us these resources and there's no american sovereign well fund there's no venezuela sovereign well fund so essentially the us military industrial complex is becoming a militia you know much like muslim brotherhood is like a militia and muslim brotherhood is being bought home to destabilize and the us military is saying you go get those resources and we'll beta test a model now it's only really chinese infrastructure that would be able to rebuild um the the wreck in venezuela and then finance needs to fund it but they're not going to fund it because it's not actually that profitable so who would fund it well the countries that are sovereign long term and can produce oil at five to ten dollars per barrel they'll fund it the golf countries will fund it china infrastructure america is being used as the military might to go get the resources um and what does america need in order to combat the mass inflation that will be required that will be created by repatriating capital and weakening the dollar there's only three ways to get down inflation your tax more in order to take money out of the supply that's not a viable option um you create a deflation resource which is AI and robotics which creates unemployment or you get the price of oil down and so when you get the price of oil down the american oil refiners go bankrupt and transnational capital can acquire them all whereas saldi can still sell oil at that rate and they can finance these operations and saldi and the golf countries are funded by china so this is the this is what i think a beta test for this infrastructure of rent the us military give the assets over um to this alliance of the world order get golf money get financial industrial complex money um and then get china to to build and invest in the infrastructure um align all of these assets around that new world order so here's a chart of oil Simon to make your point uh oil has been in the bear market since the height since the start of the ukrain war in 2022 we're currently sitting at fifty nine dollars now believe it or not that's actually up from a couple of days ago looks like oil is getting a little bit of a pump here but if you look at it from a one year standpoint uh it's down from a year ago however if i add on like let's say the oh i h the oil services ETF on to this bad boy uh you'll you'll notice uh let me switch it over to a percent scale so you'll notice that oil in green has pretty much decoupled from the oil service companies the oil service companies are pumping up to the upside while a lower price uh well oil being price lower are these insiders piling into oil ahead of something that they know is coming down that would spike the oil price what what do you make of this disconnect between oil service companies um as well as the price of oil as well as you know you look at even you know let's say exon if i pull up exon on here uh that's who's had a record i mean it's almost at all time highs um so that seems to have decoupled as well um this is this is yeah stripping operation you're decoupling the commodity from the corporate the benefits from the commodity um and so what you're doing is you're using us debt um to create inflation and pump it back into the stock market and then you're you're handing over you're basically bankrupting the government pushing all the value into the stock market which gives more power to corporate corporate then a using lobby to change policy using deep state to bribe judicial using um senate to change law using congress to get votes and all politicians are subordinate to corporate power um in this structure and so then you can take the resources maintain the value in uh in the in the stock market but use financial engineering even though um it's not you know it's uh it's just games which which means which means that essentially finance are using derivatives media weaponization index passive flows and money printing to prop up the stock market which is asset stripping the country um so remember there is no switching as a stock price anymore the stock price is dependent upon the ability to roll over the debt to print more money it is also um media manipulation because nothing's based upon earnings per share or traditional parameters um and that is based upon being geopolitically and strategically important to financial power then they control the media um and also um the other part of it is remember every nobody's investing in the stock market anymore they're giving all their money to BlackRock or the insurance premiums or the welfare state or the pension contributions or the ETF money so they're gaining more and more power they've gone from 12 trillion dollars of assets under management when they were about a trillion in the global financial crisis um and so they get to control the index funds so they can say to someone like Elon Musk Elon you do this and if you don't we'll send the derivative complex and the hedge fund complex to crash your price that will affect your stock options that will affect your inclusion in the S&P um 100 500 and then you don't get access to the index flows so they're weaponizing finance in order to do sub full subordination um the government is handing over the power to corporate corporate's handing the power over to financial and then financials in the power struggle with technical that's what's happening here i see uh professor jank anything you'd like to reply to if not i think that's pretty much shit i mean we cover pretty much all the topics i know we agreed to about an hour and we're already over you're getting close to two hours here so i appreciate uh you guys being generous with your time but yeah anything else fiverr to respond anything Simon said but if there's any other topics that you'd like to discuss that we weren't able to get to feel free to put them on the table if not then uh closing statements hey can i say one point before i think it's closed in statement um we reached a point wherever we know who's wrong all right which is around a Luxembourg there's one other point um if the dollar strengthens then the professors right china and america and amer and trump does work for american interest if the dollar continues to weaken and then it means trump is subordinate to the financial industrial complex um and china's part of that um operation as well so we can take those to a geopolitical event which is aluxemosque um and a continued every year we can look at the strength of the dollar if it continues to weaken then trump um trump was either unable um or um was not trying to strengthen the dollar in the first place so before before closing statements how about this how about uh any other topics that either one of you guys want to get to before we go into closing statements or did we cover the uh i'm done with the professor um yeah what he wants to think well what about you Simon anything else you'd like to cover before we take this thing home now i think we um did that but i just want to also say i appreciate um the professor's work i've been watching some of your videos um congratulations on um a lot of people are talking about your work and you're really igniting a lot of conversations um and daniel thank you very much for setting this up i hope uh in the comments lots of people will share their views and uh and we'll adjust based upon what actually happens we're just speculating yeah yeah right yeah go ahead professor yeah i know um it's been a great conversation i've learned a lot um it's my special special reason it really economics are finance so um just having a chance to like hear Simon and class as what he says has been really enlightening for me so thank thank you so much um Simon and daniel um yeah so my concluding remarks is this um i understand the sort of logic that Simon is using explain what's going on but i wonder first of all um are people as rational as Simon believes that they are that you know we're governed by these um monetary forces that um are rational um i think we sort of discount the role of eagle um and sort short term interest in our calculations so that's my first point my second point is that um there's always going to be struggles and conflicts within all groups um so even within china even within the state even within transnational groups you're going to have different factions who want to be the top dog um and these conflicts will never um go away um because ultimately at the end of the day only a few people can win out not everyone can win out um that's point number two um and point number three is we don't really preach the volatility of the situation in the world right now or on the world people are frustrated with the way things are um it seems like the people are just sort of disgusted with the elite the elite live in their own bubble um you know during new years like a hundred mega yachts converge at same barks island right and that they were like 80% of the world's wealth so um the world isn't as rational as i think um some um um likes to point out i think there's a lot of volatility i think there's a lot of conflict um and i think there's a lot of like ego involved in decision making and i'm not i mean like i make i make predictions but i really can't say um ultimately who will triumph in this but um there will be a lot of conflict there will be a lot of tensions there'll be a lot of unrest over the next few years and you can feel the tension in the air already so so that's my concluding remarks yeah well thank you so much uh professor Simon uh you're closing remarks yeah i i agree with both of that now i follow financial flows um and uh you know by following the money it's helped me try and get ahead a few things but it's certainly not um a perfect science and humans are crazy um there's ideology there's all sorts of stuff um the factor in the equation i tend to think ideology is weaponized um but you know money and power uh two forces and i'm able to kind of um draw uh these types of conclusions and i'd say um in game theory which is not perfect as well you have different types of games you have a finite game where you can think um very short term based upon a time frame and an infinite game where you can think much much longer term um sovereign countries are able to think much much longer term because they're playing an infinite game you can make losses and you can make better decisions because no one can achieve anything in two years four years or three months corporations they're in a three-month game in order to get their next access to capital they have to play a three-month game and be subordinate to capital flows and democracies where you have for example trump he's playing a four-year game which is condensed into a two-year game and now you're going to see every policy that he may have ideologically wanted to do will now kick into what do i need to do to raise the capital capital for my campaign financing so you can set up these um finite games in order to control and remove much of this um ideological stuff and i think you can see right now that China's playing an infinite game America's playing a finite game and corporate interest is all short-term value extraction and asset stripping and there's no concept of what's right for the people um you know um but if you can play an infinite game then you invest in your human capital and at the moment the rest the west that's controlled by this capital they're not investing in human capital they see us as a product they want us to be debt-slaived they want us to be algorithmic slaves um and sadly only those that are able to understand the game accumulate the assets that get them to get ahead of the trend they're the only ones that will be a part of the elite and and they there's no morality in this equation and once you can get once you can get your head around that your government doesn't work for you and understand who the forces are you understand people's powers not actually invoting is actually um reallocate in your money and investing in your local community spending in your local community um and buying assets that actually help your community um and that's how you get the ultimate vote because these powers they're huge powers um but it all comes down to the micro your relationship with yourself your family your community um and you should use your money in order to support that infrastructure when you can't control this ginormous infrastructure but you can boycott it you don't need to invest in it um and that's what i'd say it's your money that's your power rather than your vote because the political process is corrupted and it seems like that's already happening in in a way with these precious metals rallying uh with gold and silver it seems like at least within the smart money class uh i think it may have gone into the retail class as well but there is a sense in the air that a new system is coming and so people are running to safety or they're running to a neutral asset like gold and even silver is becoming more monet uh becoming more of a monetary metal um i'm looking at the price of silver today it's back up to over 79 dollars spot uh both metals are rallying uh do you see that i mean i know we said closing statements but i can't help but ask uh do you see though the rallying precious metals as a sign of that uh of that consciousness coming through i think gold is a monetary asset it is a safe haven and i expect continual strength over the long term uh especially in a multi-polar world silver is somewhat of a geopolitical industrial tool so expect a lot more volatility and it's very much dependent um upon geopolitical strategic flows and so it's a very different story to gold i think because one move can be made and it can completely change the dynamics of silver whereas gold is consistently two percent per year for five thousand years maintaining its value got you well gents thank you both so much for coming on uh drop us your websites drop us your socials uh Simon working people find you um i respond to everything in real time on x at Simon Dixon Twitts i go live once a week on a Friday where i do this week in bitcoin and tech this week in macro and this week in geopolitics and all i do is follow the financial flows and monetary flows to try and draw some analysis from it and in case i get shut down because i cover some very controversial stuff as does the professor um i back everything up on Simon Dixon.com excellent uh professor jane how about yourself we're going to be able to find you so um i'm primarily on sub stack i have a sub stack uh predicate history uh dot sub stack.com in which i write about geopolitics also on youtube channel and those those are the two best places to find me