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Episode #041 | "It's Not Easy Bein' Green...(or Black)"

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Episode #041 | "It's Not Easy Bein' Green...(or Black)"

The podcast hosts pay tribute to Jim Henson, emphasizing his profound influence on entertainment and the lessons he imparted: love everyone, keep creating, and accept life’s brevity. Born in Mississippi in 1936, Henson was raised as a Christian Scientist and lost his brother in a car crash on his own birthday, which instilled a sense of life’s fragility. He invented modern puppetry by creating cloth hand puppets, starting with Kermit the Frog from his mother’s coat. After early TV work on “Sam and Friends” (1955–1961), he co-created “Sesame Street,” a revolutionary children’s show that promoted diversity and education, featuring iconic characters like Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch. However, Henson resented being typecast as a children’s entertainer, so he pursued adult projects, including a short-lived stint on “Saturday Night Live” and “The Muppet Show.” The hosts discuss his partnership with Frank Oz and the enduring legacy of his characters, noting that Henson’s work continues to inspire nostalgia and creativity. They reflect on how his puppetry brought characters to life, making audiences forget the puppeteer, and highlight his innovative approach to storytelling that appealed to all ages.

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Warning, the thoughts, views, opinions, jokes, and occasional verbal abuse expressed on this podcast are for entertainment purposes only and should not be taken seriously. These are highly trained idiots who do not have your best interests or their own, at heart. This pod contains strong crude language that may be unsuitable for sensitive listeners, but we don't give a fuck. And neither should you. [Music] [Music] Hello and welcome to the Nostalgia Club. We are your hosts, Rebel, Mark, and Art. You know, we see a lot of stars in our lifetime. And some, and we all know that with stars at one point they all have to burn out. But when one shines beyond everything, it's kind of hard to imagine a world without that star. And that star today is the wonderful Jim Henson. One thing that I wish I could get to say to Jim is two words. Thank you. That I wish I got to at least meet him, work with him in some sort of way. Now Jim Henson unfortunately did pass away long before any of us were probably photos. Like our parents were probably kids at that time. Yeah. I actually I think I know so 90 was like that. So my mom was five and my dad was 15. That sounds very fun. I can't believe it. I think my dad was like a couple years younger than me or two years old. And my mom was like nine probably. Yeah. My dad was probably just, I don't know. But the one thing is Jim Henson is no matter where you watch on TV. Jim Henson was always there watching. Not in a creepy way, but sentimental and fun way. Jim is probably one of my favorite humans at the top because it was he made you want to believe this is a bunch of things as a kid. But the two lessons that I learned from him were love everyone. Keep creating keep imagining. And it's an unfortunately dark one. We're not here forever. That is true. It's very dark, but it's very true to Jim. So basically for what's first start with a little bit of a biography from the one in a little Jim Henson. So Henson was born and actually he was actually from the South believe or not. He was a Southern boy. Really? Yeah. He was actually so Jim Henson was actually from Mississippi. So September 24th, 1936. And he was and although it's a little a little bit of a little bit of a weird thing. He was a he was raised as a Christian scientist. Oh, a Christian scientist that people that don't believe in medicine. He was raised as a Christian scientist. Yeah, and spent his early childhood in Lee Lynn, Mississippi. However, it was also very close to his brother Paul Ransom and some junior. He was father who unfortunately died in a car crash on April 15th, 1936. Oh, it's a huge loss. Yeah, I would have been proud of him. I mean, we already had the shoes one. Holy shit. He was actually died on Jim Henson's birthday. What the fuck? Do we have this one? And Jim kind of realized that after his brother passed away that there was one reason that there was one rule for life. It's an unfortunate one to swallow, but no one is here forever. And Jim started looking at not an eternal clock, but a regular not an infinite clock, but internally. He lived his life throughout that. He was very close to his parents and his grandmother. However, he once he begged his parents to buy him a television. Because back in the day back when the television first came out, all you really had was the radio. Yeah, however, he decided to continue to see ads. And once they agreed, he actually ended up getting the TV and realized that is what he would want to do for his entire life. And I do want to burn this up. One day, he just simply sat at his parents' table, grabbed an old coat of his mother's and started cutting. He then ended up cutting out cutting in half a pain-pong ball and drew two eyes over it. And then turned it to him and he's selling. That is where Carmen the Frog originally made out of his mother's and his coat. Our careful children. Yeah. My mom seems to have not been here. Oh, not like that was there. No, they see us. We look at them. Fuck, something thrown at us. Oh, this would be us. Yeah, I'm not a fucking dick. My mom would be like, it would have been a big, it would have been, there would have been a lot of talks. A lot of that and a lot of that. A lot of that. It would have been a lot of beauty. A lot of yelling and a lot of being in. And if we see break throat down the stairs, we know. However, however, hence in the attenitive variety of grade schools and in-hut, including high school until it closed in 1951. And when it's high school career at the newly opened Northwestern high school where he joined the puppets. I'm leading to what happened. Now, I do want to let you guys know about one thing. The modern puppets that we have the single cloth puppets. They technically were gyms and invention and not invention, but how we look at puppets now is exactly from his work. As when Jim was younger, all that they had were the Marionette Shroom puppet. There weren't any cloth puppet shed. And technically, you can really call Jim the first innovator of the kind of puppet of the modern day puppet. For the big influence. As instead of doing this, he thought about putting the puppet on just rolling it with his hands and moving like that. Yeah. And so, as the University of Maryland and college part of the following fall as a studio arts major, thinking that he might become a commercial artist. As a freshman at the university, Jim took the newly offered puppetry class mostly populated with seniors, including the one and only Jane Neville. However, we know her as Jane Henson. he was he was keep graduate in 1960 with a bachelor's of science degree in home economics and also if you all want to know what happened he actually pulled up and either a BMW or a rose Roy's to his fumping graduation. Very and already I think him and Jane already had their off-first child so yeah he pulled up with a BMW or a rope I think it was a rose Roy's actually he put up to graduation and also during this time was when Jim actually ended up growing his signature beer as he just simply stated once he was able to grow one that's all he wanted to do yeah yeah yeah even a I shame he doesn't now when Henson started working at WTOP TV which is now WUSA TV in the late spring in 1954 at the age of 17 as he was hired to manipulate Mary Annette's on a Sunday morning children's show called the junior morning show until the show was canceled only three weeks later damn the first break of television it was short this like his talent landed him and his cup it's an opportunity to continue working at the station lip singing on roaring maculons Saturday's show this is where we actually start to see Jim's first ever work Henson's appointment last it only until August when Saturday also was also canceled. Next one then referred Jim to a local NBC affiliate station WRC TV where Henson continued performing his cupits with James help as two were now married this is what they were doing the two were eventually offered a nightly segment to which they created drum roll please Sam and friends the very first ever Jim and sin original presentation and to the point it was only a three to five minute puppet show about that afforded Henson much more freedom to develop his own creative work and it was around way fucking success yes who what merchandise and merchandise free runs although free run running a big thing back in the day on local TV true but Jim had the time the characters on Sam and friends wore for a runner of the muffins and the show included prototype of Henson's hurt most famous character the one and only Kermit be from all here. It must not be quite so formal why don't you just call me Kermit and I'll call you well what would you like me to call you? No, no, no fucking cheese quarter back no the actual Kermit the frog. And he remained with WRC until Sam and friends aired his last episode on December 15 1961 so an actual pretty the actual pretty good run of Sam and friends as it looks like here a ran from 1955 to 1961 for six years and technically speaking in regular TV time that would have been six to seven seasons now the show game. a pithet. Puppets were going to be able to be used to entertain everyone. Now in Jim's case, do you want it to now, although puppets were very popular for children, Ensign did not want to be a children's performance. He didn't want to be typecast. He did not want to be that. He wanted his puppets to be for everyone, but realistically he wanted his puppets to be for adults. Now obviously Jim didn't have anything against children's performers, but he didn't want to just be simply known as a little kid's puppet guy. Yeah, I can't, I can't, I can't, I know you never want to be typecast by anything. No, I mean look at Brett's no go Johnson, the guy only plays cops. Yeah. And I get, you know, so we do get, you know, I do understand that. And it was at and again, Henson was very distinguished as a puppeteer as it was simple. He wasn't looking over like this. He was underneath the stage is holding the puppets up and controlling them like they were actual people. Again, very, very, it was very innovative and innovative. And also to the point where it wasn't just a porcelain doll that's was someone that could technically be another beat. As if, say for example, everyone I see in interviews, everyone has seen that when permanent starts talking, you're not looking at Henson, you're looking at permits or role for Dr. T. You're looking at the character being played. Oh, even today I was, I was watching the one and I couldn't and I kept thinking I was like, oh wait, I'm the same person. It's something it's a magic. And now Henson did turn the term puppet though Henson told people that Muppet was a permanent to permanent to basically send an in from Mary and a puppet. Many early Muppets were actually hand puppets, broad puppets or some combination of the tip to our control over the puppet's mouth and combination with the software construction materials allow the puppeteer to express a wider range of emotion to more accurately move the puppets now along with the character dialogue or where we're listening to music. Commenting on his puppet design philosophy, Henson said a lot of people build very stiff puppet, we can barely move the fence. You can get very little expression out of the character that you can barely move. Your hand has a lot of flexibility to it. You want to do with it. You go to puppet that reflects it and all of that flexibility. Now let's kind of go a little bit more. Now during this time, and now once we started getting into the 60s, Jim was becoming more and more well known. Now at this point during this time, Jane ended up actually leaving Jim not as not the wars anything leaving him. Kind of no, she was still a business partner, but she stopped performing with him because she decided to go focus on their children, which makes sense. But that then Jim needed another person to come help her. That's where he went to a little trade show and a comedy show. And you started looking around and you found a young puppeteer by the name of Frank Dobbs. You guys know Frank God's and Jim they are one of the biggest they are some of the biggest stars and honestly those two team them as a team are probably the most iconic and puppeteer history. Biggest power drill. Yes, I mean, look, you have all of the characters at Frank play. Fossil mispiggy. So many more, but those are his main two that will always occur. Jim and Jim and Frank instantly became the best. Now during this time, you would also go on the Steve Allen show, the Jack Power program and the end Sullivan show and you would also work with Jimmy Dean as a character by the name of wrong. More on him later. However, during this time of wrong, one of the most popular things that Hanson ever did were commercials with a series of a local for the local Wilkins coffee company in Washington. Now one thing about these coffee commercials. They're not for kids. Well, I'm not for children. But it's also kind of funny because every and every one if you don't like Wilkins coffee, he kills the guy at the end. And it's pretty and it's really great. Now I got to see this. All right here. I'm going to bring one up. Wow, great. And you're fine. I give that Jim didn't want to be typed as a good show to perform, but God damn it. They're very good commercials. I can see. But when you smile like it's a distant. When it smiles, you know, it's never. It's never. It's never. No, no. I know. No, I'm doing all. So just take a look at these. Okay, buddy. What do you think of Wilkins coffee? I never tasted it. Now what do you think of Wilkins? Here's our couple of Wilkins coffee. No, I don't like coffee. This has been a public service. I love it. So very great. I love those. Some of them. Like those are coffee. No fish. Well, I mean. Soon. If you need to get away with some of the city they be doing it. And the work is going better than the people that do it. And then the work. And the Wilkins coffee company and all the different things that he did with them. Got the attention of two people. Who worked for the public broadcasting corporation. What the fuck did you just say? The public broadcasting corporation. Oh my god. Notice Nick at the end. Public broadcasting service. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Sir. Oh, shit. You know, because it was the public broadcasting corporation. Corporation. For racing. This is PBS. The public broadcasting service. Sorry. The corporation sound. Anyway, no. Five of the names. A Lloyd Morse and Joan. To do not know who they are. They are also some of the most influential people. Not only in the entertainment world, but in the education world. As they created one of the greatest TV shows for any child. A certain street. I just don't know who. That's been so been going on. For 50 years. Even when somebody tries to cut the funding, it was easy to come back. Mm-hmm. So many days, sitting in the clouds away. A family who is a child. The first kids are raised. Yeah, I can tell me how to get to the station. Okay. That's a mystery. Yes. It's one of the greatest children's TV shows of all time. Yes. The longest running TV. Children's TV program. True. Yeah. Still going on. Still going on to this very day. Although HBO originally had the distribution rights Netflix is actually going back. Yep. They actually had W1 Netflix in this case. Yeah. But we've talked. We. The last time we really only we talked about the street was in our PBS kids video. Well, we came to go into a lot more because I really want to focus on Hanson's work with. I'm sure we talked about a lot other ones. Of course, there have been many other publishers that have come through. But the thing is with classic Sesame Street. It hits a little different because you have all of the favorite characters being played by the original. Now again, I'm not I'm not that. When the new town they are actually very incredible. But when you grew up watching people like Frank God's be cookie monster. And the amazing Jerry Nelson playing the count and Carol Spani playing Big Bird and Oscar the ground Jerry Nelson also rest. You had you heard you know you had and obviously the very duo aka Jim and friends personalities. Bergen Ernie. It's just it's very. It's a big nothing hot. Yes. And also Sesame Street was also groundbreaking for the time as it was the very first show to have black, white, sped eggs, a hint all very interracial and very very welcoming to everybody. You would have that. When a lot of people started talking about how Sesame Street was low. It's always been that way. You know, and a lot of people are saying, oh, puppeteers, you know, all like why did all this stuff in there is how it's always been. There has always been LGBTQ support. There's always been anti racism and I homelessness. And I although I did see a funny meme when they said that they were going to have the first character be homeless someone said my nigga Oscar the ground is a living in a trash can for 50 years. What do you need homelessness? How about they get it? You got 80. You got point. You got it. But technically that can't is his home. Have you seen the inside of that place? I mean, I love trash. I have a lot of memory watching it and also. That is where we got the very first look at the Carmen that we know, although it's funny, you want to take, you want to describe it with that little girl. ABCD, you have to cook you must. [LAUGHTER] It's like you are cooking must. [LAUGHTER] Next time, cooking must, I'm going to go out with you. I'm leaving. I love you. I love you too. I think. And also, Carmen, where really wasn't around for Sesame Street that long? She's really cameos and guest appearances, but-- That was one of my favorite roles. --and then Sesame-- --gin made the Sesame Street characters for the show. Realistically, now they have made cameos throughout the time, but Jim Henson's company in general does not own the Sesame Street. Sesame Workshop owns the rights to it, and obviously the public broadcasting service. [APPLAUSE] Jim, it's Jim. I don't own the rights to all those characters, and I think that's why Sesame Street is so impactful. It's been going on for all this time, and a way how Jim likes to kind of work, if he had more control in it, probably wouldn't have been as big as it has been. Hell, you can-- everywhere you go, and every time there's a graphic tea, there's always Sesame Street characters. Yeah. Yeah. Again, it's very nostalgic, you know? Yeah. Well, let's talk about another talk, as Jim started getting very, very insecure, because he was the thing that he despised. Yeah, no. His fear was coming from-- He had become a children's entertainer, and he absolutely hated all caps. Like he hated it. And again, Jim loves all of his fan bases, but I get where he's coming from. He worked this hard, he's doing this. He became the thing he hated. You know, which is, unfortunately, fair when you work, you kind of become that thing you hated. Say, for example, I hate the non-defies, I hate the corporate world, you become a part of it, you're like, God, fuck the damage. Yeah. But he decided to do something else with a newly lit show-- What? New York, East Side of the night! [APPLAUSE] Yes, believe it or not, everyone. Jim Henson works for SNL. Yep. With a weird, helping variety monster show that didn't go well. That didn't go well. It didn't. But when you had people like, "Belushi Murphy," obviously, it's not good. But also, the clothes are kind of weird, really. Yeah. Kind of scary. That's why I don't even have to ask just the first season. Yeah. That Lauren Michaels kind of like-- Yeah, okay, Jim. --and-- Goodbye. Yeah, goodbye. Oh, sorry. I think everyone knows how hot this-- I didn't actually know this or not. But did you know it was like, it's supposedly extremely hard to make Lauren Michaels laugh? Really? Yeah. That's what-- And I'm like, grow owns a common-- how the-- I'm like, grow what? How was it a hot-- what, I actually did two comedy series. You do the kids in the hole in starting life. Because supposedly when Jimmy Saw was watching this thing when they were talking about Jimmy Falon getting a start on SNL, he ain't keep someone said, "Oh, he was able to do the impossible." He was able to make Lauren Michaels laugh, which is notoriously hard to do. Well, I mean, all the talent we have on SNL, because if you not laugh at people like Sandman or fucking Farley or Cruz or Meadows or-- I'm just talking about me. But like, I can't imagine everyone laughing and the mourns just like-- I got a feeling he was laughing on the inside. Maybe. Maybe he's just one of those people. But after SNL happened, Jim started working with his manager Bernie Brodesey and he got another person. He's Jim wanted to create something. So he decided to create a TV pilot called The Muppet Show, Sex and Violence. And it's really fucking weird. Like, it really is weird because it's like this weird-looking guy who's the main star in the house. Kermit's just a background character. And he makes a joke about Sesame Street. I'm on a long time's show. Hey, maybe I can get you work. And it's really weird. And then there was also a Valentine's Day one which was actually critically and crazy. And it is pretty good, but the sex and violence is just really, really weird. However, without that, we wouldn't have been able to get it. It's The Muppet Show with our special guest, our Mr. Elton John. The Muppet Show is one of the greatest comedy shows of all time. The Muppet Show is fucking cute. The Muppet Show was a very different concept. It was a puppet variety show. Think of Jim's version of SNL, but it worked. And this is how I mean. Jim made Kermit the star that is most recognizable character in the work. And it made sense. Kermit finally had something that he was lacking. A personality. He was a straight shooter. He was a straight shooter that wanted the show to run and he had a bit of a temper. Especially like, Kermit, what are you doing? Finally, we just said, I was, hey. And also, we got introduced to the characters that we all know and love today. Ozzy Bear was finally introduced here and he was played by Frank Ott. We finally-- We finally got the legendary Dave Golds to play the character. I just don't understand you people. Immortality is up for grabs. If you guys didn't know, Dave Golds is actually still working with the Muppets to this very day. And I think he's the longest serving original cast member of the American Muppets. And he's actually been picked by the Hanson family and the production company to oversee production on every show. And I even think he still plays Gonzo to this very day. I have some questions. I have some questions, Dave Golds. Good sir. Then you also had, you know, Fran Bro coming in. You had Steve, the amazing Steve, what was the most interesting thing you had? You had Steve Bro coming in. You had Steve, the amazing Steve Whitmire. However, there is one character that was created for the show that not only took the show by storm, but the fucking world. She is an icon to everyone, to the ladies, to the gays, to the streets. The one and only Miss Piggy. Hello. I love them. I can't lie. I love Piggy. She does piss me off. Oh, come on. Sometimes I was wondering who wears the Hanson relationship. You think, bro? Piggy, have you been planting items about us on the gossip paper again? It's a Jimmy Ty I do. It was a cover story about us being secretly married. It's all a sweat, except your reaction. That's a bold face lie, Piggy. It's a kind of a one of those things that became one thing to pop culture, the classic will they won't they? Are they together? Are they not? Are they not? Are they not? For Kermit's Pig, I hope you not. For Kermit's Pig, bro, I'm sorry. I get it. It's the love of a. Blink twice if you're indeed. You're not on a slam. You're not blink. But also, one of my favorites too. We got introduced to all of these amazing characters that were in the background. For example, Roll came back as the keyboard play. We got introduced to Scooter, played by the wonderful Richard Hunt. We also got introduced to Dr. T. and Neil Lecture to Mayhem. Two has probably the most popular remember. Animal Drone. Animal Drone Drone Drone Drone Drone Drone Drone! Animals my favorite. Love animal. Dr. T. is just a classic stoner. We also got introduced to Beaker and Dr. Honeycutt. And also, we got. There were just so many characters. There were just so many. And all of these muppets are in the main group to this very day. And the muppet show premiered to amazing success. And it did one thing, a new show every week. And this is what I mean when I say Jim Henson was the busiest working guy. He would fly to New York to do the muppet shows. He would spend time with his family. He would then go all the way to London to film the muppet show. Because it was cheaper to film in London. True. The team and literally it was at one point him and Frank and Jerry Nelson. And Steve Whitmire at one point. And everyone that worked on Sesame Street and the muppet show. They'd have to fly back to New York, do their cards. And then fly all the way back to London to do the muppet show. Damn. Then at one point Jane ended up relocating with the kids to London to make it easier for Jim to actually be around this family. And the show wasn't just a success. With the critics was a success with celebrities. And what I mean by that is every single week. There was a new celebrity guest. And some of my personal favorites are Elton John, liver acce. Alice fucking Cooper. The cast of Star Wars. Me. a barrel Harry Bell of Fonte like the Muppet Show did one thing it struck fucking diamonds and it started going on and it did an incredible and incredible ride to keep it in the reruns in the syndication the Muppet Show was still being founded by many people to this day I mean help before I went on Disney Plus I actually had a I actually went on my Xbox and Microsoft hit all the files to the Muppet Show and I would watch all of the episodes on there oh I love the Muppet Show. Now also during that time when there's a successful show we have to do success for movie yep and we did with my heart there's so many songs about ring movies and what's on the other side the Muppet movie is probably one of the greatest movie films of all time yeah probably one of my favorite job I have to say it's very good yeah and you really can't and it's kind of an origin story to the Muppets in a way you can say that kind of thing because Kermit wanted to leave the swamp to start his career in show business however a fucking Colonel Sanders look a like it's trying to get him to be the fucking sponsor for his frog life and also has one of the best jokes in there because Bobby Jarvis like bear look what bear look right frog right for fuzzy I want you to turn left if you come to a fork in the road yes there turn left get the fork in the road oh man I don't believe that and it's such a good movie and it was a thing where the movie kind of did take over and they got one point it was one of the highest grossing films ever and a lot of people were saying to Jim the Muppets can always be here we can do this forever Jim kind of took a look and said hmm and unfortunately during this time the Muppets cast also ended up losing one of their main helpers and writers and it was very sad however Jim did not cry he did not wait he simply said we will see him again kind of seeing how he kind of looked at life he saw life as the starter we're able to do this but once you're done here you're done but that doesn't mean he's again it doesn't think of like it's not that means I'm not gonna remember you no but I'm gonna tell you this isn't goodbye and I'll see you later another reason Jim and some boys amazing God bless you Jim and some however in 1981 he bought the Muppet show to an aunt he felt over exposure and wanted to go and work on more and more of their projects but the Muppets weren't going away no they came back and yeah this is just this is the beginning okay of the 80s of the cultural 80s take a look of the Muppets started in 1981 with pretty a movie a great Muppet Caper not a direct sequel to the Muppet show however it kind of shows that these guys are well actors and the great Muppet Caper is a spy movie it's really good actually a really good one I would love the great Muppet Caper however during this time of the great Muppet Caper and everything and Jim and Frank were hard at work Frank Oz wanted to get more into directing he also took some more roles and train places and a lot of other movies trying to not leave the Muppets but also create his own path yeah I mean when you've been doing the Muppets you were 17 years old you kind of what you don't want to stay sin no no so a lot of things him and Jim along with Dave Gold's Jerry Nelson and a lot of other people working decided to create a fantasy like dark things about certain stuff welcome to the dark crystal which is a good movie it is a very good one it was a commercial and critical success well it was a critical success however people thought it was a little too weird the Muppets were not classic Jim puppets you had new animated puppets they were that and a cool very great and it was very and it was a very great thing I have I love the dark crystal but that then people were looking like these aren't these aren't the Muppets these are we don't know what to do and again there is a look and Jim pushed and he really loved this film and again it's now a cultural it's not a cultural it's not a cult film yeah the whole thing everyone and everyone that is a fan of the pencent in the Muppets state this movie is fucking great the included more included art realistically included but I love the dark crystal but it was something I love the world happy and alive down the flag wrong down the flag wrong now the flag wrong I love flag wrong me too flag wrong basically yes me too now Jim was not this is what I knew when I say Jim was not going away from television I think at this point in the 80s he actually stopped performing one Sesame Street and started focusing on a lot more but he was also a very busy person running his doing all this working on a dark crystal so what he ended up doing was he sent a lot of his team to Canada and they created Fraggle Rock and he ran on HBO and it was one of the first cable access shows that Jim did and it was fucking great it was the first thing was Jerry Nelson started to play a lot of the fridals and Steve Whitmer I played my personal favorite Wembley friddle it also has one of the best songs and love it history the fridals were from this weird work underneath and all of these things and realistically the guys were fucking hippies their jobs were jubbling or playing music I guess you could kind of see it you can't say that yeah but one of the um friedle rock on there's so many great things for it well I have to bring up some of the other the main characters so when you really think about it so the thing is the main character were different so you had the fridals who were anthropomorphic people and gogo who was performed by the late Jerry Nelson and he was for the most part he is the main star of the show gogo at a uncle named uncle traveler who decided to go out to the human world which is really just called outers which they thought it was outer space and he had some good times he was basically called he was called uncle uncle traveling mat as believe it or not traveling mat is what they used to call blue's creed back in the day yeah and he would go and try out different things he would see that outer face was great and he would go on one of the humans automotive machines which was a fucking roller coaster and Dave goals played the uncle and Dave goals is sitting in the in the fucking car and he had obviously he has he's controlling uncle and there's a big arm to make it look to keep the uh and it's hilarious watching it you just want to be like behind the scenes I would see how he's going on like this is how like this is how they all got their work like this is how it happened like six like how do I ruin some magic a little bit but I know it's down but at least like you know you know how how they do it and also another big part of the fragals were these little green creatures called the doosers or workaholics yeah they love the word and that's what and the thing is the fragals and the doosers kind of had beef because the fragals saw the doosers as workaholic monkeys and the doosers saw the fragals as lazy hippies a lot of stereotypes and fragal rock was so good ranked for four seasons and had an anime to spin off but it was only lasted 13 episodes but it was also good but also how can we not bring up fragal rock without bringing up doc and sprocket dog who was played who was an actual person and sprocket was played by a very well done puppet but I love fragal rock to this day I remember reading a lot of the books too yeah they have fragal rock books and my mom and my uncle have fond memories with fragal rock but now let's talk about my one of my personal favorite ummuppet production and I have right here. The Muppets Take Manhattan is probably my favorite muffin movie. I'm surprised I even still have this copy. I'm not. But because I really do love this movie. It's basically it takes place. This is why I technically consider the muffin movie sequel because they talked about going off and going off and doing a chef. And it starts with together again. Gee, it's good to be together again. And then they go all the way down to Manhattan in Broadway and high-jinsuit. They're broke as long as they need to get jobs. And Kermit finally gets someone to sign on the show and then he gets hit by a car and gets amnesia. And these three other anthropomorphic frogs pick them up and say, oh, you work at the office with us. Are you sure about this? Yes. So then he starts going off and he starts doing this and he doesn't remember who his friends are. He doesn't remember who Piggy is, who's Bosy is, who Gonzola is. It's kind of good. He doesn't remember who Piggy is. And then speaking of which, he starts mocking Piggy for her weight and for being with her. In love with a pig. Oh wait a minute, don't tell the guys in marketing. Hi, maybe you expect me to go hog while? Maybe you could bring home the bacon. Oh, the sounds of love. And Piggy slaps the absolute shit out of him and knocks him back to his real cell. Bitch! And it's a real, it's a really the movie. And at the very end, the main skeptical with this movie was simple. Are Piggy and Cermet getting married? As the main thing was somebody getting married. And so, and they would eat and Cermet being in a church. No! However, a mysterious priest comes in and Cermet turns to Piggy's like, "Oh, Gonzola's gonna play the peak priest." And Piggy gets kind of laughside. Man, she got a real fucking priest. So basically, she forced our boy into marriage. That's gotta be illegal. I don't mean I don't mean I don't mean I don't mean I don't know. Are the walls different in the other world? I don't know. I hope that's illegal. What? She forced marriage. Of course, technically it could be considered a priest. Well, I think it is. But yeah, definitely my favorite movie for the longest time. This is all on the streaming service, believe it or not. But finally Disney Plus, they decided to put it on there. However, support your physical media and go pick up a copy. I think you can only get one on Amazon for five bucks. So pick up a copy. Also, y'all, 2023, why don't you all put this back in theaters for the 4A anniversary? I would have went, "Love this movie. Do better." But now, also during this time, Suck Street got their first movie. Oh yeah. But now, after the Muppets take Manhattan and during this time, another big thing that happened in the Muppets man, take Manhattan. Also, this was Frank Oz's very first directorial debut as a sole director. There was something that happened in take Manhattan that blew the buck up. Muffet babies. [MUSIC] >> Why do I show what you say like that, Martha? >> What? >> Baby. >> Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. [MUSIC] >> Charlie's Baby, Baby, Baby, baby, baby. >> Marvigius. [MUSIC] >> Marvigius, sounds. >> What? >> [LAUGH] >> Catch the Get here. >> Could he add the Marvigius? >> Yeah, he'll move you. >> Yep, yeah. >> [LAUGH] But let's talk about one of my favorite cartoons of all time and I do mean it. Now if you're wondering does Dick Jim Frank and Dave come back for the roles and the answer is no nigga no no but no no nigga but the love that babies casting is fucking great. People like Frank Walker who plays on Scooby Doo, fucking how we how we man Dell, man Dell who play Bobby's world play Skeeter also um Skeeter um I'm trying not to think about it. If we do this thing it's our secret forever. You killed my sister. The mom is as children, he raised my nanny who they kind of took the the p-muntra out and never showed her. They only showed her from the waist down. But then he's not just sounding like oh dear there's so many of you children. I don't know what to do. I honestly always put you around just like a woman in her 40s just watching over these days that never pictured her as an old person. And I really don't think you can because nanny kind of just dressed like a stereotypical like 80s mom. Kind of like that was the outfit that they were going for. So then if you have a moment babies I love I remember when I would watch a lot on YouTube because the full series on YouTube. I think by this point in general like in our time when like these shows are coming back I think they were out of syndication. They weren't being seen alive and then in 2019 they bought my baby's bag. Oh yeah like a little reboot or something. I don't like the art style. I don't like it. I don't like it. I know. It makes me want to kill myself. It was so bad although we finally got down to the guns. It was on binary although we kind of knew that already. Because the guy the guy fucks a chicken. Hey yo what the fuck. Oh the worst thing. I don't know. Wait did you all ever see that video of a guy. He was just fucking a chicken. Not that said on discord one time. Why the fuck. Why the fuck do you want to get. Why do you want to get. That makes a whole lot of sense. I'm kind of anti discord. I think discord is kind of only for like. I don't like discord. Also my account my account been hacked with 18 times. I'm very anti discord. How does my account get hacked that many times. That's what I mean. I'm good. I'm stick to my Instagram. My Snapchat. What's the other one. Facebook. I'll stick to Instagram. Thank you very much. I'm not a big fan of my baby. My baby was so great. It's also great that one of us at the copy and make baby loons. Hey there everybody. Yeah. I don't know why baby. I don't either. It's stupid. It is stupid. And it didn't last long either. And my baby is still on them. Yes. Also a cool air also replaced how we man. I don't know if we're ever going to be able to bring this up anywhere else. I'm going to let you do a Cambillion video. I'm stick or unlocked. Do you guys remember Cambillion? Yes. The other member's Cambillion. That's who this is. I got my story in Bobby's world. That's what you all can say. And also like that like knock off power rings for fitness and also colloquial. And also on hot other enemies also power rings. It's a scalability at one point. Sonic gets as well. Yeah. We're all doing a Cambillion. We're definitely going to. Oh my god. I think I remember only as I got one demand service. It was. It was. You are watching Cambillion. You're watching Cambillion on demand. Cambillion. Bro, that was the. I'm sorry. That was. That was the. That was the. That was the. That was the. That was the. It's like in our team. I don't know myself. I love this. Now during this time as well. Unfortunately Jim personally was. As personal life was falling apart. Him and James relationship was very strict. And in 1986 they officially separated. Never divorcing. Disseparated. Yes. And also a lot of people. James those who said it was due to Jim being very anti-argument. Very much like he rather. He wouldn't be rather talkman argue. But we got to understand. But also he would also. And also he would. And also he would. Kind of like back off. It before and argument started. - Yeah, I'm not either. But I'm getting confused. - But you still have to talk shit out, my eyes. - Yeah, you can't hold that shit. - Like if you decide to like back off and not talk about it, I get it. But again, no body's personal, I swear. And again, Jim and James still love each other. They just kind of weren't in love with each other. - Yeah, they just weren't. - And they still made sure that they were parents that there were five children. - That's good, that's good. - Five, I forgot. - Three girls, two boys. And Justin P. John, as he passed away in 2014. - I remember that. - I remember that. - During this time, after the dark crystal success, he wanted to go back to the drawing board. And he called up his good friend, George Lucas. - I don't know. - Jim had to also work with Star Wars as he created Yoda. - Yeah. - And also Frank Oz was the original voice of Yoda. - Yeah, I think Lucas wanted Jim to puppeteer or Yoda. - But I think he was busy for-- - He was. - He said, don't give Frank the role. - Yeah. - And Frank. - Pro. Frank! - Come on, it's not the biggest Star Wars guy, but-- - I'm not even a winner. - He was like, he knows where to give. - Yes. - Like, props. - Come on, man. - Did you write work? - Yes. And he called up his good friend, George Lucas, and created probably one of my favorite 80 films of all time. But one of the most underrated and under-appreciated films at the time. - So, and be under-appreciated? - Labyrinth. - I've brought you a gift. - What is it? - It's a crystal, nothing more. But if you turn it this way, look into it. It'll show your dreamers. - Yeah, I fucking love this movie. Art does too. Mark does too. Bro, it's so fucking good. And also another star that burned out too quickly, the great David Bowie. - You got three legends right here. You got Jim Henson. - That's so good. - You got David Bowie. - It's so good. - Originally, believe it or not, if you guys know that Jim Henson originally wanted to contract Sting to do this, but it was his, I think it was Brian Henson. Jim Sona was like, Dad, no, you gotta get Bowie. - Yeah. - No, get me wrong, I love Sting. I just, no, I feel like Sting, like acting wise, he seems kind of boring. - Yeah, David Bowie. - Like Bowie, come on, how can you be like this? - It's a fifth of all. And dance, magic dance, oh, magic dance. And also Bowie, co-wrote all the music for the film. - Of course. - So. - Bowie just burned out like this. - It was a Ziggy Ziggy. - This was the very first time we got introduced to a unknown puppeteer at the time by the name of Kevin Collette. Woo! And, it's gonna be, again, I think we can do an entire video of doing this through the fucking greats. Although, y'all fucked it up when I came out. Y'all didn't show it anymore. - It's okay, but it's okay, but it's okay. - But y'all decided to show this one although I can't blame y'all for this fucking good. The mother family Christmas. ♪ 'Cause we need a little Christmas ♪ ♪ Right this very minute ♪ ♪ It hasn't snowed a single flower ♪ ♪ Bobby, we're all in the hurry ♪ - Hey, hey, hey, you did so a lot of flurry's and you should not be in a hurry. - Hmm. - I'm really loved it. I love this special, this Christmas special because it brings all of the characters together again. - And it has one of the best lines in there. - Come on outside, we'll do our act for you. - Outside, Bobby, it's too cold to go outside. - It's not cold. - It is cold. - It's not cold. - It goes to snowman. (snores) - Can I come in and warm up? (snores) Okay, so it's cold. - Hmm. - You are so, man, bro. Where short did 30 degree leather? (laughs) Yeah, you are a snowman. But also during this time as well, Jim kinda started getting a little tired of everything. - Yeah. - He was a businessman. He was a performer, he was a creator, he was a director, a producer. Jim was starting to kinda get tired. He was, he was art by the end of '89, he was 50. He was in his 50s, and I get it. He was slowing down. - Yeah, so I was tired physically and mentally. - I wanted to decide that he wanted to create instead of doing, and let someone else end with a rest. So, in 1989, he played the performer and he called Michael Eisen. (snores) - Yep. The CEO of, - Ho-ho! (snores) Go fuck yourself. (laughs) - Hey guys, we're the nostalgia club, and you're watching Disney Channel. (singing) Go fuck yourself. - Why did I know that? - No, 'cause I'm, - You're not, I was like, "Fuck you!" (laughs) - If the CEO of the Walt Disney company, - Jim Henson decided to enter a deal with Disney, where they would acquire the muffins. But Jim would stay on, basically he was like to Disney. You do everything else, and I will create. So Jim went to work. He started creating an entirely new muppet theme stuff for all out of the theme park, especially one of my favorites. (snores) - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Easy now. - That's what I'm saying. - Don't wanna get angry, just do it again. - Yeah, exactly. - Oh, one. - All you had to do was keep it. Not touch it. - Yup. Talk to you, say it, just talk to you. - Angry Miga activated. - How? How? - You fuck. - Do you take out one of the greatest fucking attractions? Hollywood Studios has ever seen. And how? How? Why? Why? That was the only thing nothing related in the porn crap that's on. Why the fuck did you do that? It was so loud, it was jingling, and it was kind of project. On your fucking day day, are you fucking kidding me? - Oh no. - It was the. (guns firing) - Oh, sorry. (laughs) - Hmm. - It's okay, it's okay. - You got some more? You got some more? - And the all out. - The all out. - It's like the all out. - Like, it was Jim's last project, and it was the thing is, and this is what it is. - Oh, yeah, I was taking it all out. (laughs) - It's your dollar, bro. - I need it. - I need it. - But I still love "Hop and Routes" and "Dory" and "It Was Great." And I wish I got to see it before close, as all I can say. - "Arthin" - "Arthin" - "Muppet" - "Fusion 3D" (screams) - And "Jim" was working to the very end. I need even showed up as Carmen in this Christmas parade in 1989. However, in 1990, things kind of took a twist. - Yes. - "Jim" came down with what he thought was a pretty bad quote. And we've all been there. - Yeah. - We've got there. But again, when you're in a duel, you kind of have to be kind of one of those things where I get it, you know, you have to kind of keep pushing through. - Yeah, you gotta just push it aside because work is important, but. - But I think "Jim" was kind of working a lot. - He was. - Now, the last thing that "Jim" got to see and work on, if you all know how much we love this movie, especially me, "Jim" - "Hop and Routes" - "Jim" - "Created and Industrial Costings." - I know, you're a new turtle. - You wouldn't, you wouldn't fuck this up. - "Hop and Routes" - Yeah. - I can find. - I saw like holding a couple of lies. - You can't even tell a more ugly movie. - We were gonna go across the street to add me to get duct tape. - It duct tape them now. - You started to hold fucking room. - You have to admit, it was still a fun time. - Yeah, I wouldn't have thought it was fun. - If I could hear the fuck going in the lake, right? - I don't need a fucking tummy, right? - Okay, fine, well, how about this? - No. - The "Hogan Dryman" is showling turtles one and two back to back. I'll shut up, we go, have fun. - Bullshit, you will. - I will, because I already got my, 'cause I already got it out with this one. And when I saw this one, so we're good. - That's what they all said. - No, I'm good, I swear, I'm good. But "Henson" did create the turtle, the costume, the costume, the costume, he created "Master Splinter" as well, and drove that he'd do a fucking good job. These suits are some of the best in movie history. - I'm very sorry. - And however, Jim was critical about this thing. I thought it was a little too violent. - Have you read the name? - No, it's based on the cartoon. - This one's not a name stone in the cartoon, obviously. No, this is based on the original comics. - Yes. - And to be fair, Jim was not the only one as parents ended up having problems. So that's when we got the secret of the use was a little more campier, but turtles too was good. But still fucking great. And also Jim had problems with his next one, the witches, which he also worked on, we're probably gone, he had problems with that, and Disney was also up his ass 'cause they were also trying to supposedly create, they also try to get the Sesame Street characters as well. So Jim was kind of burnt out as hell, and all the stress, what it does to you when you're sick. doesn't make you better at major works. - It just builds it up. - It just agitated. - It's a 1990 gym appeared on the, kind of not visually ill, but a under the weather gym went to the Arseneu, a off show. Now, gym, again, was no longer a Christian scientist at this point, but he wasn't a doll. He didn't want to go to the hospital unless he absolutely needed to, but dude, you should have still went to a doctor. - You love me so soon. - Because if the, like honestly, this is what I say, if the cold is still there with three days and you don't feel any good, get your ass to the office. - Yeah. - Get yourself to the doctor. - Immediately. - Because you never know what's going on. - Exactly. He could be something very serious. - Like, oh, I thought I had a cold. No, I had a fucking ear infection. - Yeah. - Like, no, the side infection. - But like, oh, I have a little headache. - No, we just had a stroke. - Like, it's one of the, or like, oh, oh, like, oh, I think, oh, I think I'm just stuffed up. I can't spell you out of fucking COVID. - Yeah. - But I thought your standard worry is coming from a penny. - I was like, try too busy, whatever. - Yeah. - Do I like paying? - Your health comes first. - Exactly. - Your health really, really comes first. - Jim was very critical of his performance of Karmet because he couldn't stop coughing. - Mm. - And that was the last time Karmet would appear on TV, on Jim's hand. - A little while after our senile hall, Jim ended up traveling with his daughter to go visit his father and went back to New York where he was getting a lot of books. - Like my words, I mean. - Jane bought him a hot soup. And then Jim asked her to say what she did. Jim had a high fever. It was coughing up blood. We, Jane kept telling him to go to the hospital. And after a little back and forth, he finally agreed. And the last words that Jim ever said were, I'll see you later. (gun firing) - Good evening. What talent, what genius will it all loss? - Sammy Davis Jr., dead of cancer at the age of 64. And Jim Henson, the creator of the muppets, dead of pneumonia at age 53. Jim Henson's death was not expected and those circumstances are stunning. He died of pneumonia after being admitted to a New York hospital with a massive bacterial infection. - To call him Jim Henson, the puppeteer comes nowhere near describing his accomplishment or the love of fiction and knowledge that his character's brought to millions throughout the world. - I think there's a child in all of us. I think the people that like the muppets, the part of them that likes the muppets is the child in them. - Dead at age 53, Jim Henson leaves behind five children and a permanent fantasy land. Granted out of no more than a few scraps of flannel of foam rubber, the magic was always in their creator. (dramatic music) - A lot of people thought stress killed him, a lot of people thought, but bronchial pneumonia is kind of random and a lot of people can't believe it. That someone as great as Jim Henson could die of something so random. Jim did what he wanted to do until the very end. - Yeah. - He hated. And one of the last things he got to see and work on was the muppets at Disney World with this kind of stating that, hey, the muppets are finally here. And did the Disney deal go for once he passed? - No. - The Henson family kind of said, we can you guys have one year, that's it. Now a lot of, if Jim was still around, this is what was gonna happen. In 1991, Mickey and the gang were gonna take a vacation and for the entirety of '91, it was gonna be Muppet Land, Muppet World and Muppet Land. So everything would be Muppet, which would have been kind of cool, kind of bring the muppets into the Disney parks. There was also some permanent attractions planned. There was a couple other movies that Jim was working on. But Disney, but it really changed when he in the past. - It did, it really did. - Now, I am not one that states changes that, I think it is, but when you have someone, how do you continue without compensating? However, they did. The Memorial Afterism Memorial Service, the group got back to work when the muppets celebrate, compensate. Back at the Muppet Studio, Fuzzy is going haywire as they don't know what to do. However, they get a, however Robin comes in with a letter stating that this special that they're working on is for Jim Penson. However, all throughout the chaos, there was something very, very wrong with it. Kermit is missing. And they learn about everything and they find a bunch of letters and they start reading them and find these like. Here, Kermit, my cousin Diane, has a pet frog and she named him Kermit. (laughing) And he could say, "Hi, just like you." - Oh, it's not sweet. - Yeah, I feel very sorry that your best friend Jim died. Jim died, but we were just starting to get to know him. - Fuzzy answers the shit. 'Cause how do you picture of you to Jim Penson? He made everyone laugh at the Muppet Show. He had donated millions and millions of children of Princess Moustache. He made gigantic experimental roles such as the Dark Crystal and Labra. - Mm-hmm. - You did it all. - Penson was literally the person. Mm-hmm. And they start to sing. ♪ If just one person believes in you ♪ ♪ Deep enough and strong enough believes in you ♪ ♪ Hard enough and long enough before you knew it ♪ ♪ Someone else would think if he can do it ♪ ♪ I can do it ♪ - As they're singing, it opens the door open and in walks Kermit the frog. It was decided I see with my overtake over the world and after a couple of months of pushing it off, finally decided to this hand, pick up Kermit and turn him to it and gave the character what? Kermit was alone and so was Jim Penson. But Jim's vision was always there. And Teenage Beauty and Mutorials too, the secret of the use, the creature shop came back and again worked on him. A lot of them were the same ones, but they dig on the little different. The movie is also dedicated to his memory. Mm-hmm. And again, it's a good movie, only this piece of shit where Jim Penson's shop was nowhere to be found. (laughing) - Yeah, I don't know. (laughing) - You're in the fucking store, I'll put that picture. - Yeah, unfortunately, this is not the nerd's coffee, but I think we're kind of glad it's not the nerd's coffee. - It's hammer time. (drumming) - Yeah, I'm a talker. I'm a talker. (laughing) - Ayo? - It's not what they dig in negative. (laughing) - But we also got a couple of action-ful Jim Penson's shop. For example, dinosaurs. - Yes. (laughing) - We got a catapult. - Huh? - He's like uncomfortable. - Then we also got probably what a lot of people state, the best version of a Christmas caro, the Muppets Christmas caro. We also got Muppets Treasure Island, one of my personal favorites. Also, fuck it, it's him curry, fuck it. (laughing) And then also, we already bought this up last week, but the love of this word of Dr. Seuss. - Yes. - And they're in the big blue house. - Yes. (laughing) - God damn. (laughing) - He's comfortable, so I don't want to bother him. - He's from space, hell yeah. And yeah. - Fuck, sorry. - This one as well, we have Mark's personal favorites in all of ours. - Little, little. - Elmo and Grouchland. - Yeah. - Is this one? - Only, like, was this a theater movie? - Yeah. - Was it the actual release? - I think, yeah. - Well, very old. - I want to tell you a more colorful, just a thing. - And classic. - This was fantastic. - How about you, Jav and Sircush? - In 2004. 14 years after Jim and Ben Barr. Which is, we're finally answered. - Yeah. - The Hanson family came to a deal. And Disney officially acquired the Muppets. - And we're going to be going to the characters, you mean everything? - Not including the Sesame Street characters. - No. - So, in 2000, now, what, what do they do? - They went dark for a little bit. And then in 2011, now I do apologize 'cause my dog gave my original case. We got introduced to probably one of the best Muppet phones, the Muppets 2011. With the great cast of Jim Parsons, Jason Siegel. Fuck the girl, Amy Allen. (laughing) Fuck, oh, the girl. Amy Allen. (laughing) - Fuck, Carol. - That bar of fucking listens, start the fucking someplace. - Allen from the hangover art swing. But I love this film. It's not only introduced an entire new audience to the Muppets. They've bought back the older fans as well. - Mm-hmm. - I love this film. Probably second to the Take Man ad. And also Steve Whitmeyer. It's technically our generation's Kermit. I love Steve's voice. I think his Kermit is one of the best two. And also, this movie is just amazingly great. - Also, how can we forget, sorry, I forgot some? Other than that, during this time, Henson's company, although Henson's company is not owned by Disney, Disney only owns the Muppets. So Henson's company would be. make a lot of other things. For example, the Muppet's Wizard of Oz, probably the last non-disno-weight because it wasn't Disney. - It was Disney. - No, that was the start of the Disney. - The start of the Disney with the Muppet Wizard of Oz, which I like, but a lot of people hated. But then, we get, let's go back to PBS Kids, and then it's a special needs class. - Yeah. - You have seen the science kids are so-- - I was like, what the fuck? - I'm not paying attention. I'm here to special needs. - You guys like, are there really special needs? - I think they all are, I think they all are on the spectrum. I think that's the thing that's, I think that's what I was supposed to be. - I think we're on the spectrum. That's the thing. - You might have just a reason. - More reason? - Yes, more reason. - Also, I'm not gonna ask. - And underrated, that was on us, for out the animals. - The loves the animals. - And then also dinosaur trains. - dinosaur trains. - dinosaur trains. - We're taking off the fucking shirts. - We're wearing a dinosaur. - What's up? - This is your aunt. (laughing) - Put that in the Muppets Post-Mobile. - Okay, now obviously Muppets 2011, great film. And it bought the Muppets back. - It did. - And what happens? - We're doing a sequel. We're back by popular demand. (upbeat music) - Come on everybody, strike up the band. - Muppets most wanted. It's still a very good movie. I actually, I do love this film. I didn't see it as much as 2011. - Yes, I agree. - However, it introduced us to a new, weird character. Constantine, you, is an arguably, you will clone. Cermet. Voice, by Matt, over. - Oh, hi, whole Cermetine Frog here. - Hi, y'all. - Here, Mittafrog. - Here? - Nailed it. - However, this kind of started my problem with the Muppets. In 2016, it was announced that Steve Webmire had been fired by Disney and Matt Volgo would be taking the place as Cermet. Now my first sense is like, what, why? I don't really know why. It's been speculated that maybe Steve wanted, was I'd have always like, oh, I'm Cermet now. You can't do anything without me. It might have been a thing that they, then wanting to move something one, but if that, Steve didn't leave by himself. He was fired, which kind of always drug me the wrong way. But, I had a problem with Cermet's voice by Matt. It sounded too much like Constantine. And I hated it when I first heard it. And again, I'm not shitting on Matt. He's an amazing performer. He literally took over Big Bird. He's fucking great. He does Oscar as well. I'm not taking away from Matt's credit. I think Matt is an extraordinary performer. It's just for me hearing that and watching Muppets most wanted and finding out that this is how Cermet is going to sound, I couldn't fucking believe it. However, and also there wasn't really much done with Muppets related after most wanted. Now we had the 2015 show, which was Steve Webmire. His last role as Cermet. But other than that, we had something called Muppets Now, or Muppets Now, which was kind of like a COVID show. But I hated Cermet's voice in there. Muppets wanted to mention Cermet wasn't really there to begin with. He was in a short cameo and that's it. I personally just believe that that wasn't given a time to shine directly as Cermet. It was not able to find his own voice. That wasn't till the Muppets show returned. It's the Muppets show with our very special guest, some Rina Garpenter. So the Muppets show was returning with Seth Brogan as an exclusive producer, Maya Rudolph as a comic relief. And the first main guest star was Sabrina Carpenter. Now, whatever they say, but I've already said this beforehand. Yes, I have a major Sabrina thing. Yes, I have her. Very true. But my main thing is, I don't care who the guest star was. My main focus was on the Muppets themselves. Can they come back and are they able to show? So I first saw the trailers and I was hopeful, but I needed one thing. I needed Cermet to sound like Cermet, not like Constantine. And this is what I sold in the, do what would Sabrina with Island in the show, when Cermet started singing by Pith and the Epiphany House? ♪ When I met you there was peace unknown ♪ ♪ I set out to get you with a fine tooth comb ♪ ♪ I was soft inside ♪ ♪ There was something going on ♪ After hearing that and hearing how it sounded, Matt started to sound like an old, like, a more modern version of Jim's voice. And watching that special, I can happily say, I welcomed Matt with open arms as the voice of Cermet. And the Muppet show, how did it do? We loved it. Everyone loved it. They premiered within 100% on rotten tomatoes. And supposedly there are now in talks to get more people to do the Muppets show. However, do I see it being their weekly thing? Probably not because a lot of the stars that we would love to see, busy with a lot of other things now. Especially, you know, sense like, I would love to see people like Tyler the Creator. I mean, Tyler would be fun. Definitely. I mean, I think he would be kind of funny. He would be like, I think Shuffle Roan, now I'm not sure that was fucked up, but I think Shuffle Roan would be also a good sketching for the Muppets as well. But Orc, how ghost would have been kind of cool as the actual characters in the pop-up? I think it would be cool to see Alice back. I think it would be cool to see Elton back. You know, I think it depends on the guest stars too. But the Muppets show in general, yes, it made it good. And it was fucking great. Now, the last thing I'm going to bring up because honestly, we are running, we are running a long episode. And we are going to go through some other things that he worked on. But the three of three of us. We got to bring up a half one and two. And the designs and the costumes were created. I don't want to know what to shop. I don't know. That my friends is a book of Jim Henson and the Muppets. Blood. Let's go over some things that the creature shop ended up working on. The dinosaurs of Mulder Bear King, Connie I blew up the kid, Woffeat, the never-ending story, the story, the storyteller, which is a great show, the Indian and the couple 101 Dalmatians, English patient, the Phantom, the fifth element, buddy George of the Jungle, the Odyssey, Lawson's face, Dr. Doolittle, Jack Frost, Allison Wonderland, Animal Farm, my favorite Martin, my favorite Martian, the Townsend Mr. Ripley, Katzendoll, Harry Potter, oh my god, Loonie, he's back in action, five little children, where are they? The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Dalathe, that man began to hold the producer's, the hangover, where the wild things are, the Muppets obviously, Rick and Morty. Jim Henson's Creature Shop Challenge, Oscar's Hotel for the fantastical creatures, Grumpy Katz, Worst Christmas Ever, the Jungle Book, Guys, Ragh-O-Raw, The Curse of the Bridge Hollow, does Happy Fun Time, so many greats. I want to say this one more time. Thank you for everything. We all, thank you. We all love you. And we all miss you. We really, we are. You are doing this. You are doing this. You are missed. I know you're up there with Jane. And I know you're up there with your son, John. And I know you're up there with Jerry, with Richard, with Carol, with Kermit. And as there was a production that was on an increment. Oh. I know you're up there. And you're all looking down at everyone. And you are just. But I hope there's a smile on your face. And the show that you're worth is so worth. Yes. We are still watching your work to this day. And we always vote for it. Yup. And we'll put our kids on it as well. And our kids will put our third kids on it. And so on, so forward. Thank you for the generation. We're a blessing. And we will see. And like we said, we will see you. And maybe even you. And maybe even you. And maybe even you. Thank you guys for watching. Hope you guys enjoyed this video. This video is done by me. I'm signing the only one. Well, that good song. I knew you guys could do the tribute for Jim. That's my style.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The podcast hosts celebrate Jim Henson’s life and legacy, focusing on his impact on entertainment and his philosophy of love, creativity, and mortality.
  2. Henson’s early biography includes his birth in Mississippi, a Christian Scientist upbringing, and the tragic death of his brother, which shaped his view on life’s impermanence.
  3. He pioneered modern puppetry by creating cloth hand puppets (Muppets) instead of traditional marionettes, starting with Kermit the Frog made from his mother’s coat.
  4. Henson’s first TV success was “Sam and Friends” (1955–1961), which introduced Kermit and led to his work on “Sesame Street,” a groundbreaking children’s show promoting diversity and education.
  5. Despite his success, Henson disliked being typecast as a children’s entertainer, leading him to experiment with adult-oriented projects like “The Muppet Show” and a brief stint on “Saturday Night Live.”

Summary:

The podcast hosts pay tribute to Jim Henson, emphasizing his profound influence on entertainment and the lessons he imparted: love everyone, keep creating, and accept life’s brevity. Born in Mississippi in 1936, Henson was raised as a Christian Scientist and lost his brother in a car crash on his own birthday, which instilled a sense of life’s fragility. He invented modern puppetry by creating cloth hand puppets, starting with Kermit the Frog from his mother’s coat.

After early TV work on “Sam and Friends” (1955–1961), he co-created “Sesame Street,” a revolutionary children’s show that promoted diversity and education, featuring iconic characters like Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch. ” The hosts discuss his partnership with Frank Oz and the enduring legacy of his characters, noting that Henson’s work continues to inspire nostalgia and creativity. They reflect on how his puppetry brought characters to life, making audiences forget the puppeteer, and highlight his innovative approach to storytelling that appealed to all ages.

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Jim Henson was a pioneering puppeteer born on September 24, 1936, in Mississippi. He created the Muppets and is best known for characters like Kermit the Frog and his work on Sesame Street and The Muppet Show.

Kermit the Frog was originally created by Jim Henson using an old coat of his mother's and a cut-up ping-pong ball. He first appeared on the local show Sam and Friends.

Henson wanted his puppets to entertain everyone, not just children. He feared being typecast as a children's entertainer and aimed to create content for adults as well.

A Muppet is a term Jim Henson coined by combining 'marionette' and 'puppet.' Muppets are typically hand puppets made from soft materials, allowing for expressive movements.

Henson was approached by Joan Ganz Cooney and Lloyd Morrisett of the Children's Television Workshop to create characters for Sesame Street. He developed iconic Muppets like Big Bird, Oscar the Grouch, and Cookie Monster.

The Wilkins Coffee commercials were a series of local ads in Washington featuring a Muppet who would harm anyone who disliked the coffee. They became popular and showcased Henson's adult-oriented humor.

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