Ep. 926: Suppressor Rules Change, Hangry Bears, Oil Worker Wins 100 Cooks, and More!

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Angler of the Year Trey McKinney joins us live here on the show. Here and more. But now, on to our news. Our News. What's first up in our news, Gianni? Tear it away. No, it says Steve's kids question. Oh, it's very quick. Driving to Grouse Hunt last night, my kid said to me, 11 years old, he said, if you froze a person and cut them open, would all the blood be where it belonged? That's all. Go on. You didn't have to. You didn't have an answer for him? I told him, yeah. Okay. Be right where it belonged. I imagine. I'll ask my brother on that. He just did a big cadaver thing. It's right where it belonged. I already thought it through. Go ahead, Gianni. I'm gonna text him. This American Life did a real good story recently about when freezing people and keeping them around forever until medical advances caught up to bringing them back alive. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that in the 70s? That's still a thing, man. Maybe, but they did a nice long story on it. Very entertaining. There's dudes now hip, because that's exciting. There's dudes now expensive. There's a cheap version, and one of the guys that many people, you know they don't know who invented Bitcoin? I didn't know that. So my friend Ben Wallace wrote a wonderful book about trying to unmask the mysterious Mr. Nakamoto. No one knows who invented Bitcoin. He has billions and billions in Bitcoin that has never been tapped into. One of the guys that some people think invented Bitcoin just had his brain full. He froze trying to save money. So he's anticipating like major medical advancements. Not that you just reanimate his body, but you'd thaw his brain out, stick it in some dude. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Playing the long game. A nice, strong 20-year-old. What do I have for my news? Whitetail habitat in Wisconsin work, Kansas scouting in Wyoming elk. Two days. It's in late July in Wisconsin. Mostly spraying buckthorn, which is this invasive that I'm. It was funny. I thought I was going to have like a little bit to battle when I started this project. And as soon as the sunlight hit the forest floor, it went bananas. And now I've got like 10 acres of it. And why do people hate it? Buckthorn. It's like any of these invasives. They just take over and they don't let the stuff grow that you want to grow. And nothing wants to eat it. No. Yeah. But I'm happy to report my dad's been back a month later since I was there. And he reported there's a lot of dead buckthorn. So my work had results. Like you're murdering it. Yeah. I don't know how I missed this though. Growing up in Michigan. Maybe you have memories of this, but I don't have memories of sweating the way that I sweat now when I go to Wisconsin to work. To the point where my rubber gloves, when I would take them off after spraying a full backpack and walking around in the middle of the day, I could pour the sweat out of them. There's a video on my Instagram. Kids don't sweat. You think that's what it is? I remember discovering that I could sweat throwing hay bales. And then you're only aware of it because all the dust stuck to you. But no, you don't sweat as a kid. Skinny little shits don't sweat. I'll wear a shirt that says that on it. The other highlight from Wisconsin was, I finally took the time to hang some vines and make like legit mock scrapes. You familiar with this? Like hanging a grapevine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The internet says that that's the best thing. You can use other, say you don't live in a place, say you live in a place where there are no grapevines, you can use other branches. You mean you're putting in a licking branch? Yes, but instead of using a oak licking branch. Just hang a vine. Hang a vine. And I did them, you know, 20 yards from two different stands, killed all of them. Killed all the, you know, stuff that was living underneath it. God, you were killing all the stuff all the time, man. Oh, yes. I'm such a, I get, become more and more of a fan of herbicide and cutting trees down by the day. Yeah, okay. Because when you kill stuff, the stuff that you want comes back. I understand. Anyways, did a couple, did three of those. Two out of the three that same night had deer activity on them. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty amazing. Did you put some Buckman juice down? I didn't put any. Well, yeah, I did that. I peed in the scrapes for sure. But yeah, they're just going up there and like, whatever it is. Are you kidding me? No, they see it, you know, and they're just like, they go over there and attract it to them. On the day you did it? Yeah, that night I had two. Deer visited it. I did, I made three and two out of the three got hit that night. That's incredible. Doze and young bucks. I haven't had a big buck on them yet. There's something about that height and position that they. They're into it. Yeah. You know, you hear similar stuff about rough grouse in a drumming log. Yep. Right. They're like, oh, that's everything. You know what I mean? That's right. It's like, I need to be able to see a certain distance. It needs to be a certain height and they just, right, are on it and a licking branch. She's like, oh, sweet licking branch. Makes you realize they're paying more attention to like detail, like what's around them than you think they do. Yeah, for sure. Like that's like shows up at like a signpost. Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah, even though there was some dude with his, his hands all over it and ladders and cannons driving around spraying herbicide. They're like, oh, no matter. I like that thing. I'm going to rub my forehead on it. Middle of August, Brent and I went to Kansas and hung 10 multi-trail cameras on three different properties that we're going to hunt. Now, we got these three different properties through a friend of his who's, I don't want to say an out, it's a very like, it's an outfitter, but he's kind of a DIY kind of guy where he's, he's going to have the spots for you. He's going to put you up, but you're kind of on your own for the hunting. Like he'll, he'll say, yeah, go check that out. And you know, we see deer down here, but you're not going to get dropped off at the blind. You're not, you know, he's not going to hang a grape vines for you. That kind of stuff. It was like that time you and me did that turkey hunt in Florida. Yes, exactly. You basically get the property. Yeah. Like figure it out. Yeah. So Brent and I did, we basically had one full day there. Hot. as hell there too, just like Wisconsin is like nine and um and and hot uh hung 10 cameras speed scouting it just trying to figure out you know major crossings um pinch points funnels whatever um did okay i think uh if you if you don't mind phil go ahead and show show the viewers what we've seen what we've got so far doesn't matter pull one up yeah any of the ones from the trail cameras yeah hold on here i we don't have a kansas giant yet um but there's this guy dude i'll take it and he's got like a bonus you can see i don't know if you call it an extra uh keep kind of rolling through him phil on his left antler yeah his left antler there's like an extra brow time oh yeah you know what i always ask myself any buck i see uh-huh i say but is it as big as the buck that's been laying in my yard no your neighbors showed me a picture of that thing holy cow my daughter had to mow around it yeah he's a bruiser mow around are you serious it's huge believable she's smote around it this buck is like hey what's up guys oh yeah jimmy's all trying to plot how he's if he doesn't get how he can drive it out of city limits scare him into pat's yard where he's outside of city limits you know i could tell so many funny stories about him and that buck he's obsessed with this buck he's got no path forward though well you need to bring in a picture of this buck it's like giant drop time anyways go on no well this is what we got so far which is uh you know this is actually a different one that's a 10 point it's been running with the funky guy um which are both like if i saw either of them wisconsin i'd be flinging an arrow immediately but brent keeps telling me yanni i could shoot those bucks in arkansas you know i'm like okay well you're gonna be there with me so you can tell me which one to shoot or not shoot phil show the picture of the of the germied bucks this is what's available is it bigger than the buck in my yard i don't know that's i haven't seen the buck in your maybe man those g3s yeah it's amazing wow then there's one phil with two oh yeah there's no no a lot of high and tight bucks yeah yeah they definitely have yeah you're not gonna get a big spread credit out of those oh yeah look at those two boys what's up whose place is that that's where we're that basement is where brent and i are going to be sleeping during our kansas hunt so we're heading there and uh okay but here's the i don't know if you people just listening yanni's showing pictures of bucks that most dudes would be real excited to get with astounding g3s are you hunting the rut there or what i'm gonna hunt the last week of october for you right yeah uh when i came home though from this trip yeah i saw i kind of felt like when you were in the hospital and you had problems and yeah and you had possibly like giardia and i forget all the things that compounded and the because you had some kind of skin irritant as well no i had yeah i had a whole list of issues but at all i had uh it was uh um like a colon infection yeah long story long story but it had compound yeah it was a series of events that led me to be there and it and i was at uh i was at the jewish hospital in new york and when i finally was getting checked out i was like oh my god i'm checked out i always remember the doctor was leaving the door like it was like a movie scene she's leaving the door and turns to me and says stay away from pigs right because didn't you get poison ivy or poison oak from the pigs yeah right right right so you can hear that story on probably several different old media podcasts find it somehow i left there came home i've got i was thinking about you because i'm like i wonder if steve's ever had any irritations at once mosquito bites tick bites chiggers poison ivy and then on top of all that a wicked common cold that shut me down for three four or five days let me see them chiggers well they're gone now this is 10 10 days ago did any of that stuff get your scroll a little bit i had that patch of poison ivy here uh not not scroll but in the general scroll area i definitely had some um tick bites the seed ticks yeah hopefully they'll be gone by uh by end of what kind of ticks little seed ticks okay you'd be wise to go listen to that episode we did on on um alpha gal syndrome the whole dedicated episode on alpha gal yeah i haven't listened to it yet no it'll scare you all right or not last but not least leaving in two days for my wyoming elk hunt it's exciting what's the weather looking like hot it's gonna it's hot this weekend then it's gonna cool down it's gonna start getting into like highs of 70 maybe low 70s and then lows 30 to 40. no one believes me but the other morning our roof had frost on it it's probably the morning that my thermometer read 37 oh because everybody keeps telling me my thermometers did 44 i'm like i don't know i must live in a weird little hole i don't know the big buck brings in the cold maybe i don't know what it is um i'm a little bit nervous here's what i got going on i i'm two days out i still have a lot of packing and planning to do i never have any scouting so the first couple days are going to be all just driving around as much as i can in the cam am and just road scouting glassing early and late but basically figuring out my access figuring out how long it takes to get from a to b and just zipping around zipping around until i have an idea of you know like like i know the place um the one thing i will say which i'm very happy about this i do think is maybe the most important is that my broadhead tipped arrows are flying good and right now i would just be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be shooting an elk at 50 yards good i'm ready which means 50 you'll shoot an elk at 59 no you know i was shooting with a guy the other day at the house we have a little 3d course set up there and we're shooting and he asked me the question he's like how far how hard you shoot we're actually shooting at a farther range but i think we were shooting at 60 or 65 that's why i like your range and i had a really nice group going you know like a seven eight inch group and i was like oh my god at that range and he's like what would you shoot him at i'm like 50 he's like really right now look at you what you're doing you're telling me perfect conditions blah blah blah blah blah and in the moment i thought well yeah maybe he's right you know the wind's not blowing the bull elk doesn't know i'm there and everything's perfect my heart rate's not up yeah i could probably send it but then later that night i was laying in bed i was thinking no you don't want to send it because you take those i don't want to call them chip shots but the shots that you're absolutely 100 sure in 50 yards and under not 59 because you have to think about five minutes later when that sucker's running off with one stuck like way too far back or in his ass you know and there's way too much arrow showing yeah it's like that's why you don't take the 59 yarder i just yeah i had this conversation the other day with someone who's telling me man guys online i'm like you ain't online yeah totally you're in the woods yeah and again you know i'm human i make mistakes and again at 60 plus yards like that arrow takes a while to get there and those critters can just take one step and it goes from being perfect center of the lungs to being back or whatever dude uh when you come back and tell me man i pass up a beautiful bull at 51 i'll be all yours yeah i'll be all yours i'll be all yours all right nate nate mason um nate mason came over to us in the podcast space from our from one of our companies fhf gear makers are the greatest vinyl harness on the planet makers are the greatest vinyl harness on the planet he he was on the same before he came over to the podcast team he was on the same floor as this studio just a different wing of the office yeah the wing none of y'all visit i'm down there all the time you are but everyone else doesn't you know no me and yanni are down all the time we're just not welcome guests oh no you're welcome no because we're like hey can you guys sew this well usually it's like a buoy or something hey can you sew the spearfishing wetsuit yeah for me hey can you make me can you guys got like a few days where you can make me a holder for my uh underwater flashlight shit like that yeah the guy who was managing paul's schedule said no but paul said yes so anyways so nate was involved nate's gonna he's gonna he's gonna bring the worlds together yep um so worked there for two spent giving input on the fhf apex bag that we just released um so you go to the website check it out but we'll give you the spiel here that i would give to you at a trade show if you walked in headliner it's gonna cost 400 bucks big and we knew that going into it because you make anything physically american made yeah you make anything physically large in america by citizens of the united states it will cost you so much money and we're committed like fhf is committed to that um and so we knew it was gonna be super expensive and the question that we wrestled with was how do you make how do you justify a 400 price tag and what we landed on is a backpack that you don't just pull out of your closet for a seven-day elk hunt it's a backpack you can use year-round in multiple configurations everything from no waist belt throwing it into an overhead on your in your in your plane to loading it on an xo k4 frame and hauling out an elk quarter it does everything in between can i tell you something see this one right here here. Guess what I had in here last night? Grouse. 10 grouse and a laptop that's why your charger doesn't work yeah you guys had a good night was in this was i was because i like to do big screen trail cam checking big screen yeah so i was getting a couple things out of the woods and i was like i don't have my laptop with me because i can't i'm not patient enough to wait so i had my laptop in there we had me and my kids had our dead grouses in there big bang boom but mine has a custom sticker meat eater laboratories yeah that's that's a prototype especially what uh what species of grouse did you guys get into so well how how technical do you want me to get super are you like an ornithological society man no that case then they were duskies duskies if you're just a regular blue collar guy blue grouse got it yeah it's a nice tall go check that bag out fhf hall got bigger than that how many did you end with we had four hunters 12 me three kids that's a good day yeah anyhow go on if you want to check it out yep fhfgear.com it's a big price tag but you'll use it not only four years but throughout the entire year that's good that's all you're gonna say about it that's it speaks for itself which i grab one and show grab one and show it yeah okay okay pass pass that one on the behind you bryce well that's one on a cave four frame yes and so if you look at the left you know it's no give me the one on the left sorry give me the one on the left why is bryce got to do it this sucker is a chef this is how this is this is how this bad layer is going to come okay no waist belt um straps pad kind of your everyday 24 hour 36 hour pack be great then you can take that sucker pan over to steve and throw your apex belt another no whip pan i got mine clipped behind yep throw your apex belt on there and now you have some some load bearing capability you got your hip deal going on e4s whatever you want keep your bullets in these little pockets when you grow something yep throw your grouse in there your laptop whatever you want and then bryce we got the k4 version same bag you strip all the shoulder pads off the waist belt all that stuff and you can mount this sucker on an xo k4 frame and it works just like it would any other western meat hauling pack it's about 2200 cubic inches perfect for truck hunting day hunting maybe two nights one night two nights um yeah it's great love that thing made in america thanks man yep for me it isn't really fall until the mornings get cold the grouse start flushing velvet starts coming off those buck antlers garden season winds down and i start getting really excited about getting my kids into the woods if you are a mountain dew fan it's also time for you to stock up your cooler with some dew for all the fall action born in the foothills of tennessee mountain dew is an american original powering good times since two brothers created the beverage about three quarters of a century ago in tennessee mark your best fall memories with the crisp refreshing citrus kick of mountain dew 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here okay banish speaking of suppressors here okay banish speaking of suppressors at the end of the speaking of suppressors at the end of the speaking of suppressors at the end of the show we have an update from silencer show we have an update from silencer show we have an update from silencer central on changes to the nfa you don't central on changes to the nfa you don't central on changes to the nfa you don't need to know what that means what you need to know what that means what you need to know what that means what you need to need to need to you could you can listen to the whole you could you can listen to the whole you could you can listen to the whole story it's fascinating if you're a policy story it's fascinating if you're a policy story it's fascinating if you're a policy guy if you like the details the long and guy if you like the details the long and guy if you like the details the long and short of it is probably short of it is probably short of it is probably in the history in the history in the history of of of of america america america it's gonna sound bold and at the end of it's gonna sound bold and at the end of it's gonna sound bold and at the end of the episode you'll hear the whole the episode you'll hear the whole the episode you'll hear the whole interview in the history of america now interview in the history of america now interview in the history of america now is probably is probably is probably the definitely the best time that has the definitely the best time that has the definitely the best time that has ever happened ever happened ever happened and could become and could become and could become the best the best the best i'm trying to say i'm trying to say i'm trying to say undoubtedly right now is the best undoubtedly right now is the best undoubtedly right now is the best moment ever to get a suppressor if moment ever to get a suppressor if moment ever to get a suppressor if you've been thinking about a suppressor you've been thinking about a suppressor you've been thinking about a suppressor because the federal government because the federal government because the federal government regulatory changes regulatory changes regulatory changes depending on the state you live in depending on the state you live in depending on the state you live in or not or following or not or following or not or following we'll hit it listen to the interview listen to the interview listen to the interview listen in the end listen in the end listen in the end politically politically in this country politically politically in this country politically politically in this country it's the suppress it's the suppress it's the suppress the friends of the suppressors are in the friends of the suppressors are in the friends of the suppressors are in power power power the enemies of the suppressors will the enemies of the suppressors will the enemies of the suppressors will follow in follow in follow in on their heels on their heels but just listen the whole damn thing but just listen the whole damn thing but just listen the whole damn thing later the generator update is this later the generator update is this later the generator update is this i i spelled out on a new show this i i spelled out on a new show this i i spelled out on a new show this problem i have a generator that needs an problem i have a generator that needs an problem i have a generator that needs an exorcism the greatest exorcism the greatest exorcism the greatest mechanical minds mechanical minds mechanical minds in ketchikan alaska have not they have in ketchikan alaska have not they have in ketchikan alaska have not they have not been able to solve this problem not been able to solve this problem not been able to solve this problem i laid it all out i laid it all out i laid it all out this is insider for you people that this is insider for you people that this is insider for you people that listened and participated can you build the graph can you explain can you build the graph can you explain can you build the graph can you explain the graph yeah basically we aggregated the graph yeah basically we aggregated the graph yeah basically we aggregated comments from the email the inbox which comments from the email the inbox which comments from the email the inbox which always feel free to write in um and always feel free to write in um and always feel free to write in um and the youtube comments and we've got two the youtube comments and we've got two the youtube comments and we've got two columns we've got uh there's five top columns we've got uh there's five top columns we've got uh there's five top suggestions on how to exercise this suggestions on how to exercise this suggestions on how to exercise this generator um and there there's there's generator um and there there's there's generator um and there there's there's a differentiation between the youtube a differentiation between the youtube a differentiation between the youtube folks the youtube mechanics and the folks the youtube mechanics and the folks the youtube mechanics and the email mechanics but really there's two email mechanics but really there's two email mechanics but really there's two there's two options you put more faith there's two options you put more faith there's two options you put more faith in the youtube guy you know i well in the youtube guy you know i well in the youtube guy you know i well that's what i want to find out i don't that's what i want to find out i don't that's what i want to find out i don't know who's a more educated know who's a more educated know who's a more educated populist on generators populist on generators populist on generators the youtube comments what do you think the youtube comments what do you think the youtube comments what do you think about that bryce about that bryce about that bryce i would say email if you take the time to i would say email if you take the time to i would say email if you take the time to type out an email you're smarter you're type out an email you're smarter you're type out an email you're smarter you're smarter you know what i found anyone smarter you know what i found anyone smarter you know what i found anyone could comment on it is many mechanics could comment on it is many mechanics could comment on it is many mechanics who wrote it in apologized for their who wrote it in apologized for their who wrote it in apologized for their grammar which i don't care but i found that the better suggestions came from the guys who had poor grammar i've started not trusting in the guys who wrote real yeah because they spent their life wrenching that i agree i agree so anyways yeah they're not like keyboard they're not keyboard they probably don't even have an email they just go on youtube yeah these dudes they got a dip packed and they're wrenching the youtube guys spell right they've they vote that it's the low oil level slash pressure sensor and the email guys think it's the fuel cap or tank vent is clogged up i'm trying them both dude i'm not even gonna find out which it was is it in town getting fixed or is it still there it's been to town this is a well-traveled generator i got more money into shipping this generator back and forth when i say i mean my co-owners worth we got more money in shipping this generator around than it would cost to buy the damn generator aren't you going back there this fall it's out there right now but you're going back to met like yeah and i'm doing all this junk you what kind of generator is it oh honda eu 7000 the big boy big dog so those were big dog number ones and two number three was the co-minder sensor the fourth recommended was overheating and thermal sensor and the fifth was the ignition coil so there's your hit list i like these guys on the ignition coil they're saying take a heat gun and just speed it along heat the heat the ignition coil instead of waiting four hours for it to shut off he did with the heat gun mainly the reason we're getting into this is thank you thank you yes thank you um for all this feedback it means the world bison skull discovery check this out best story of the show check this out someone writes in we own a small piece of river property in southwest minnesota which is what makes us interesting to me a little bit because you know some guy in wyoming sure sure they're covered up in them but southwest minnesota we are currently experiencing a drought oh um my kid was reading me an article yesterday uh that the mallard count is just devastating right now mallards are at like a 50 year low because of the same drought this kid's talking about um um we're currently experiencing a drought which has made the river lower than it has been in quite some time on a walk on the river this summer with my three-year-old daughter i found a broken off buffalo horn see picture below in the water wedge between some rocks there it is what's remarkable for you folks just listening is he's holding up a chunk of a buffalo skull but it is coal black coal black jet black i thought this was an amazing find until i went home and showed it off to my wife and two boys when showing my six-year-old son the horn he said well dad the other day when i was on the river i seen two of those and they were connected that's the best part we went we went down to the river and there under the water wedged against the rock was a full buffalo skull and he's got pictures of his little boy holding a gorgeous gorgeous yeah jet black skull i would wonder about that you build now you only find like something super old and cool they put it like in a tank like if you excavate an old like boat out of the water they'll put it in a tank of water so it doesn't deteriorate yeah knowing that once you change this environment it's going to go to shit i feel that in six months he's going to be the proud owner owner of a cardboard colored buffalo skull and not a coal black buffalo skull i don't know what he's going to do about this the stuff about this how big it is is interesting to me oh i hadn't got that um simply because like is there you can read it and then well he's dabbling in here without knowing it he's dabbling in a discipline called horn core morphology which is what i'm getting at like what it's actually from like you know because bison antiquus was bigger and had straighter horns and it's kind of is it possible that's not a bison bison and it's a bison antiquus here's what we'll do nate you're gonna have to be in charge of this okay if he's willing we will raise the money to have him send a gram of it to beta analytics in florida and we will settle the question we just need to figure out how to do that and then we'll do it six hundred bucks we'll send it in we'll send a gram in and get it radiocarbon dated we'll make a go fund me everyone pitches in a dollar or whatever 50 cents i don't know something yep until we can find out how old his skull is phil did you pull up minnesotans yeah minnesotans this is your duty as minnesotans that picture is go to nate's go fund me which he hasn't made yet and give a dollar we'll work up a little kitty a little pot of 600 bucks and send it to beta analytics he just got a dremel out at graham out of that sucker i've done it i'll show him right where to get it from this go fund me will be live when this episode drops i don't know the name yet it's called minnesotans for accurate bison skull dating nailed it i got a quick update on your kids store your quick kids question look i already know the answer well what's your well what did you think the blood's all right where it belongs no my brother who's an orthopedic surgeon and military trauma guy he said if they were gradually frozen then most blood would be shunted centrally if they were flash frozen probably i think he meant flash yeah i'll check yeah text him like not getting too little to text but i was just not getting stuck in a meat locker and freezing over the course i said connect with him in person i think later today all right time for the news wow trey mckinney's here uh youngest ever at 21 to become angler of the year fresh out of the dove fields here he is trey mckinney you there yes i know what's going on here's my first question for you so okay so you're 21 years old and you just became angler of the year at what age did you become aware that there was a thing called angler of the year and you just became angler of the year and you just became angler of the year at what age did you become aware that there was a thing called angler of the year honestly like you said that there's i was definitely to an age probably like 16 once i realized they're actually the true meaning of it of what it meant and what the actual title was so i'd say probably 16 17 okay so so lay out lay out the path to become angler of the year like tell me about your tell me about your year as a professional tell me about your last two years as a professional bass fisherman absolutely um so yeah you're actually have to qualify through the opens um there's a few different ways you can but the main way is through the open so it's like you probably have i don't know anywhere from probably 200 plus guys um and they they fish nine events and they take nine guys and they take a few more if you count the bass nation and stuff but yeah so you have to finish in the top nine in points um out of the average of all these guys um and then there after you qualify for that you qualify for the elite series of the westward fishing now um and then you have to qualify for the elite series of um and then it's actually the top 100 so and then every year um is you have to finish probably above the cut line so it's about like the 80th place or something like that or you actually get cut and then they bring in the new nine guys okay um so it's definitely uh you definitely gotta stay on top of your game um for sure but once you qualify and you get in um you know that's kind of the goal is like once you get kind of settled down getting a late series um a top 50 finish in ai is definitely you in it so you know you're kind of safe you don't have to worry about losing your losing your career your uh job but um we've been really blessed these last years um actually we've never we never finished out of the top top two out of angler of the year and we finally uh sealed the deal this year so you were second place two times in a row yeah unfortunately yeah i'm not breaking closure i guess but that's amazing though man so so who was previously was it was uh kevin van dam was he previously the youngest angler of the year he was and how old is how old was he when he got it um i think i beat him by i think it was like three and a half years or something like that so it was actually a pretty good margin and i didn't realize at all it was over a thousand something days that i beat his beat his record so uh it was uh it was it was i was pretty pumped and then lay out for me a little bit like like how long have you been a professional bass like i'm assuming now you don't have you don't do you don't you're way beyond having a side job right you're way beyond having a side job right you're way beyond how long have you been yes sir well i got two questions for you i guess tell us how you define a professional bass fisherman absolutely so like what i guess the how i would define it is when most of your incomes come from any kind of spot like any kind of sponsor so um for us like that's where if we didn't have our sponsors there's no way we could do it because you guys have seen it gas prices diesel prices absolutely insane right now okay um so it definitely is it makes it tough um because our payouts are pretty good you know it's 100 grand to win one um for the classic it's 300 grand um then you get 100 grand for ly and then they pay all the way down to 50th place so if you finish good and consistent you know you're going to make a decent living um but you know where you actually set yourself apart um to be a professional angler um is when you mostly rely on sponsors social media um stuff like that as well and nowadays i feel like that's where if you are actually one of the top like 10 percent that you know i'd say a lot of the guys in the elite series you know there's that 10 percent that actually truly make a good living um and that's definitely mainly related around the sponsors okay so at 21 years of age how many years have you been a pro uh two okay i would say this this is this one will be my third um but before this i was kind of as soon as i started the elite series we kind of went well we didn't have a plan b or nothing you know it was kind of that was it you know we didn't we didn't have any other no option we didn't go to college nothing like that uh we just kind of full send it all the way and uh thank thank goodness we were blessed enough it worked out how many people in your immediate family are kind of like he did what yeah i feel like a few people were a little skeptical they're like so you're gonna go fish for like a living right and i'm like yeah yeah man like that's what i'm gonna try and they're like wow okay i didn't see that one coming um but now man it's uh it's pretty it's been a long time since i've been to a place like this i've been to a place like this for a long time it's been a long time since i've been to a place like this yeah yeah it's been a long time since special i gotta tell you you know me interviewing you i can only ask you dumb questions because i don't know a lot about this the guy that could ask you good questions is seth morris who's very excited that you're coming on and he follows you but he's fishing that sounds about right so you would have had a better interview if he wasn't fishing but it makes sense that he's fishing because he's like but he's a big fan of yours too um so how like what's your vacation look like now do you sit back and kick it or like when do you got to go out and fish and compete again absolutely so um right now it's not the season um that's literally that's basically all i do is i hunt and fish i'm just an outdoorsman like i feel like a lot of us you know it's uh it's kind of what i enjoy um but you usually my season will start mid-january and unfortunately that's about when all the ducks get here down here in southern illinois um but usually you know i get a lot of good weeks before that and stuff and we usually start mid-january and then run i usually i have actually an in-bed truck camper um now now that i invested in and i usually run till the first week of september um and come back home and then usually that's when i head to canada saskatchewan or anywhere like that and stay up there for you know two weeks to a month and over a month and uh just kind of work my way back waterfowl hunting um all the way here to southern illinois and you know we do some got some big white tail here a little bit north of me it's definitely a lot better um but no we got some good deer and you know pretty much live in the woods and in a field after uh fishing season's over okay here's a couple quickies for you hold on are you i feel like you're already wrapping it up we're not going to go into the forward facing sonar with trey hey let's debate it let's do it oh i don't want to hit him up that's probably sitting here but there's just a big article in the wall street journal right about him and the canadian and forward facing sonar he's i just assumed he's sick of talking about we'll ask him about it can i ask my two quickies yeah i'm gonna ask my two quickies and i'm handing over to yannis small mouth bastard large mouth bass there's not there is a wrong answer to this yeah i mean they're so different that it's hard to pick one or the other because there's so many positive and negatives of both um but man a big lot like a giant large mouth like a texan uh it's it's hard it's hard to beat that that's that's the wrong answer i'm of it okay someone comes to you okay like a like a like a supreme emperor being comes to you and it says trey you can hunt or fish you can't do both but there's no professional part of it what do you say i feel like i feel like i'm also gonna pick hunting i mean mainly because i probably do fishing for a job but the camaraderie and like you know just hanging out with your buddies um the memories that you have i mean you can have a lot of fun and you can have a lot of fun and you can have a lot of fun and you can have it in fishing but man all the ones that i remember seem like they come from the field or the woods and uh i don't know it's pretty special moment when you got when you got your buddies and the right people you surround yourself with and out in nature i mean it's just yeah i know you have plenty of those moments it's uh it's pretty special you know i used to very much agree and now that i'm in my 50s i switched my answer to fishing because i just think that i mean i think you could fish to the end man you can like if your kids can get you into a boat you're fishing you know i mean i just feel like if i had to pick now if i was being strategic i would now go fishing because i'm like dude i'm gonna fish till the day i i mean i'll literally be fishing on the day i die i hope yeah i hope you could be shooting doves off of a bucket yes that's true on that day too that's true if it's dove season but it's always fishing season i'm switching to fishing like my i just switched i officially switched okay yanni's gonna take over he's gonna ask you the hard-hitting questions everybody wants to hear yeah i don't know i'm trying to set it up so that we can we can everybody knows what this is uh brody you might have to help we talk we talk about this so much if they don't know what forward-facing sonar is all right so everybody knows what forward-facing sonar is in these tournaments that uh trey is in it's become so contentious and and uh correct me if i'm wrong here but that like in your uh the the entire tournament season they split the tournaments in half where half of them you can use this new technology and some you can't or the other half you can't a lot of people thought that this new crop of younger anglers like yourself is there anybody younger than you on it on the tournament uh it's close now like i know like uh last year i was definitely the youngest but now it's close all right so you know sub 25 sub 30 year olds that are all using this technology to catch fish and people thought that since they said in half the tournaments you wouldn't be able to use this they'd all they'd all shit the bed yeah these guys would not be able to catch a fish turned out that wasn't the case at least it wasn't the case for trey it's the biggest in the world as they take his forward-facing sonar away and he still wins yeah so i guess i don't know if i don't have a specific question prepared on the heels of that but off the top of my head i guess when they made that rule and you knew that you were gonna that you weren't gonna be able to use the the technology for half of your tournaments were you like oh no or were you like oh no big deal i was fishing like this for 10 years before i ever had forward-facing sonar yeah no i definitely more of that case because like when we started of course we didn't have it right like so it was just just like normal fishing you know um but like to me like the forward-facing is like a tool right so like for me it's about efficiency so it's like anything else it's just it's just makes you way more efficient and fast and like cover a lot more water and understand what's going on um so yeah they did you know honestly it's kind of crazy because the older folks that uh is doing most of the complaining and you know about it um they actually had the tool first um but uh they just didn't i guess uh learn it as well and uh the younger guys come in and uh you know it was it was the deal because it made you so efficient like now you know i go out to the lake and if i turn my forward face off you know it takes me you know i'm not gonna be able to do anything i'm not gonna be able to do anything 10 times to hit this brush pile you know but if i turn it on you know i can hit one cast and hit right in the middle of the brush pile um so yeah it just comes down for me i just like it because it's an efficiency game like i just get tired caught up like fishing a spot if it don't got no fish you know or not not only that i like if i'm casting at least i know my baits in a high percentage area so like you know that's that's the big deal for me i like keeping it in a high percentage area uh where i have good odds all day long you know that's that's the whole thing about fishing and i like to keep it in a high percentage area and i like to keep it in a high percentage area you know if you if you keep your bait in the highest percentage odds all day long most likely you're gonna finish you know at the top five um if you're fishing enough with it so it's uh it's definitely a controversial term for sure and bass fishing right now like that's the word that gets everybody riled up live scope but would you go would you fish a tournament that was let's say there was a tournament and it had a normal paycheck or a normal what do you call it i don't know like a prize purse a normal purse and and the the term was like zero live scope no live scope in this tournament at all would you be like great i'm in yeah i mean i definitely wouldn't be like hey yeah you know like but i would definitely be like let's do it you know it doesn't really affect me um no it's definitely it's because it's still just fishing like anything else you know there's there's plenty of stuff that kind of goes i guess co-exist with it but um no it's still fishing to me you know you're still going out there trying to get as many bites as you can um and catch as many fish as you can so honestly i'm not going to be like you know the game stays the same it just makes it a little different you know when you're able to use those tools whether it'd be like you know hunting i guess i mean this is not the same but like with onyx right so like if you have your onyx and you're more efficient knowing exactly which ways you can go up the mounds how you can go up how you can you know track down or cut a deer off or however um but without that it's a little harder because you kind of got to you know just kind of guess you know i mean not test but you got to go over there first and have a look yeah exactly yeah you're a little bit more efficient you're a little bit more efficient you're a little bit more efficient with it so that's how i i guess see it a live scope for me is like i just like it because it's a great tool you know i know exactly what i'm getting into when i'm there and uh makes life a little easier all right possibly as contentious as four facing sonar come on do you eat large mouth you can't ask him this question why not because you put my spot do you eat them or and then if you say no do you have any any problems with people that do eat the bass no actually a lot of times so it depends like what and if you're keeping like six pounders i'm gonna be like bro like for sure like that's that's a problem but um but no like if you're just helping like honestly it helps a lot of fisheries out right because like a lot of them will have too high of a population where they you know they don't have enough to eat so they get stunted and then you know you won't have any big fish to catch so it is i tell a lot of people if you're in a high populated area where there's a ton of fish from 14 inches to you know 16 or 17 those are the perfect to eat like and honestly when you do take them out and you knock the sides off of them it honestly will help that fishery a lot because it gives a lot of the other sources of life to get food you know it's it's not such a race and not no skinny you know it's an unhealthy fishery when you got too many but when it's just right and we have people where they take them out and eat them that's when you grow the biggest ones so So you like to fry them up, obviously. I do both, you know, bash. what i like about it it's a little bit you know harder so like you can grill it or something like that where when you kind of get underneath it you know it don't just all just fall apart got it um so it does you can actually black it in on a grill and it's honestly it's quite tasty i love it but frying it is definitely a good option you can't can't go wrong with that okay last question you married or anything like that i do have a girlfriend uh going on a year and a half now so nice work still early for a lot of people but you know it's uh it's going really well congratulations all right everybody trey mckinney youngest ever twin angler of the year congratulations good luck on your fall you just came out of the uh you've been hitting some doves sounds like you got deer plans duck plans fish plans yes sir all right man enjoy it buddy thanks for coming on thanks trey i appreciate it thanks for the opportunity as well man all right take it easy see you boys this 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and they they found a hundred of us and they flew us all to la and then it was just a competition so for me they found me on instagram so i would post like cooking videos and stuff when i was in college and it was kind of just a hobby thing you know like meal preps for my friends and then uh yeah they found me on that and i thought it was a scam so i didn't respond for like four days i had this dm and i was like that's not real this is back in december of 2025 and then four days go by i'm like what's gonna hurt you know i was like working in the oil fields i was on my phone probably too much anyways i was like i'll just respond she gets back to me right away and she's like let's have a phone call like at 10 tomorrow and i was like okay maybe it's real chatted with her for like five minutes and she's like yeah you seem like a good fit for the show we're gonna send you to the head casting director maybe this is real and then the next they'd already watched all your videos they must have seen a couple of my videos they must have known something about you or like did a little bit of research but then i kind of just started talking about like my story and like the jobs i've worked and the stuff i've done and they were just like interested in that i think and they're like what's going on and i'm like what's going on and they're like what's going on and they're like what's going on and i'm like what's going on and they're like what's going on we can build something off of this okay and then i talked to the head casting director uh the next day i had a zoom call so it like happened really fast it was in the beginning of december and we had like a 30 minute conversation and then he like stopped it at the end and he's like dude you're gonna be great for this show he's like this is like he's like i think you'll do good on this he's like if you don't get on this he's like we'll get you on grads grocery games or something else you know and i was like oh cool you know like really must have went well it's all it takes yeah and then he took that and i guess they cut it down to like three minutes and then sent it to the head producers of the show and then christmas time came new year's new year's came and so it was just like dark for like three weeks and i was kind of like all right well is this gonna happen or not i have to go i was working in the oil fields at the time where uh where what oil fields so i was in right wyoming and gillette wyoming working there and then i my last hitch i did in march after the show i went to north dakota so i was over by stanley yeah um but yeah so i was out i was about to start my next hitch in january and i was just kind of waiting for the show because they're like it's gonna be the third week of january we're gonna film we'll fly you down uh and so the 14th i was supposed to start my next hitch the 13th i got an email and i was like hey you made it on the show we bought your flights to la hope these work like you're flying down in seven days huh and i was like i have a job you know so i had to call my boss and like explain what i had going on and he was kind of like on the fence like well you know we kind of need you and like this and that then his wife found out and she got like to him and was like he's going to hollywood you know i'm like he's going to hollywood he's going to hollywood he's going to go down there and he's going to cook and so then they're like yeah you go ahead go ahead huh it was great because that's when we had that cold snap and it was like negative 45 and stanley like with the windshield like suckers yeah my brother was up there working and i'm like in my king-size bed and you know in the hilton in la i was like this is great you know it's like vacation for me so how long were you down today how long did it take to film the show so how it worked is they they flew us all down there at the same time uh we got it on a thursday it was like 15 days total i think i was there okay the friday we had like a media day so we did like an interview like who you are why you're here and then saturday dark day and then sunday was the first day of filming um and it was it was cutthroat like the first challenge there was like 11 people called down and i think seven were eliminated right off the bat and if you get eliminated like they fly you home the next day like they're not going to pay for you to stay so there you so you're saying that you sort of like within a day or whatever you went from 100 to i think episode two there was 74 left okay so they're getting right to it yeah they like went straight to the point like we didn't we didn't know anything when we showed up like we got it was a like a an old abandoned ikea building so it was massive and we didn't know the judges we didn't know the host unassembled uh unassembled deck yeah the home furnishings everywhere yeah no they've turned it into like a full-on cooking studio with like massive commercial fridges and like everything to store all their stuff for all the shows that they run out of it um but yeah so no one knew what was going on like everyone was kind of in the dark and it was just a lot of sitting and waiting and then they we found out and then they call this down and i was like oh this is this is real life and i was like seeing people cry and getting comfortable and i was like oh this is this is real life and i got off the show and i was like they're telling you like give me an example of a challenge like you come down in the morning or whatever and they tell you to do what yeah so like we go on set they'd run through like everybody clap everybody cheer kind of get the b-roll stuff for the show and it felt really weird because there's like thousands of cameras everywhere and i'm just sitting like oh i've never been you know in a studio like that or ever actually and uh so the first challenge they have this big rolling machine it's got like balls in it and each ball says like a certain challenge and they have another rolling machine they call them like the mixers and it's got 100 balls from one to 100 and every one of us has a number on our apron and we're sitting in a chair and there's a big number behind us that's our number it was like squid games kind of feel okay yeah it was weird and then they would roll the first one and it'd be like best noodle dish and like terry cruz is the host best noodle dish challenge and then you know he'd be like all right i need 11 cooks for this one he'd walk to the mixer and one at a time he'd roll this mixer and then pull a ball out and be like number 20. 26 and you know they'd come down and you'd have to wait until everyone gets called down and then he'd be like i'm gonna get your number 39 okay yeah so and i'm best noodles were you hoping i hope they don't get my number i would have been okay with it i was like i definitely don't want to be the first person to go down and cook but my head i was like just don't go home episode one i was like every cooking show i've ever watched i was like there's always the guy goes home episode one i'm like if i if that happened to me i was gonna tell nobody i went on food network i was like i was gonna come home like i'm not gonna ever talk about this again if i get cut the first episode see i feel like those producers when they cast you they were like this guy is top 20 material and they cast those other people like i'm reading here in the notes that you beat uh an old lady in the first round they cast her to lose in the first round yeah so that's where like there was obvious like you still have to cook you know it's like it can't be rigged because you have to go down there and cook and like i watched it but like as far as the number drawing goes it's still tv it's reality tv and so the first challenge goes you know i see seven people get eliminated and uh next challenge i turned to this guy behind me i'm like dude imagine if they did like a one-on-one challenge he's like that would be crazy you know right after terry pulls a ball and he goes rotisserie chicken challenge and he goes i only need two cooks for this challenge and i was like okay there's no way like one-on-one challenge i was like they're not gonna pick me like there's 92 other people up here in the stands like there's no way i'm gonna be picked sure first number that comes out is mine so then i'm walking down the stands it's the second challenge of the whole show you're watching this little ball deal yeah you feel like it's a legit ball deal so that's what i don't know it's they have put with like did they put a bunch of 39s in there you know what i mean or did they like is there someone's hands back there like because it would mess up sometimes and like that's the thing where they put the lady so she was in her 70s she survived the noodle dish challenge and how it works if you get the best dish you get immunity for the episode oh if you get whatever they decide to keep four out of 11 you're safe but you can get your ball thrown back in the mixer okay so her ball gets thrown back in the mixer and she had just survived the other round she probably got like second or third place and everyone in the crowd loved her you know like we're all home cooks it's like oh you know antoinette she survived you know everyone was calling her nona she had like a catchphrase after the first cook what was your catchphrase uh toast that bread because she forgot to toast the bread and she told the judge she would toast the bread if she got a chance what was your catchphrase i didn't well i didn't have a catchphrase really i was trying to just figure things out when i was there um they did get i'll tell you the nickname they gave me after because it was pretty funny but i went so i got called down and like i knew everybody's like who's this i was like wearing a real tree camo shirt like who's this guy and i'm like i'm from montana and like where i was like where's montana at like like a lot of people there genuinely didn't know like where it was and then they call her number right after and everyone's like she's cooking like twice in a row like what the heck but it's like take the youngest guy who's from like montana and then like this italian like grandma and like put them against each other i was like that doesn't just happen by chance uh and so yeah we had to cook off um we had a rotisserie chicken we had 35 minutes i think to make the better dish using a rotisserie chicken like pre-cooked oh yeah okay so it wasn't it was like a fun challenge you know because like it's still like home cooks and so they're trying to like make sure like people like relate um and like i mean i use rotisserie chicken all the time it's great it's quick uh yeah so we both had to make our own dish and uh i ended up beating her and like after i won everyone in the crowd was like oh like no one was excited at all like it was so hard of course they're like this montana dude you just gotta get out of here i couldn't relish in it at all like i was like you know excited but then like everyone was like oh no and so i gave her a hug and like felt bad and then the next day on set so we filmed the only episode filmed over two days was episode one and so i had immunity now because i had the best dish in that round so the next day i like showed up you know like in my slippers and i was like i don't have to cook today because i have immunity and i was kind of enjoying the day on set watching other people go up and they all started calling me the grinch and i was like and it like stuck and so everyone was like oh there's the granny slayer from montana like the granny slayer and it was so funny because i was like they're gonna run with this and so then i had to do an interview after you know can i switch it to like buck slayer yeah anything else like the first guy i met on the on the like the ride to the hotel was like i'm gonna call you cowboy i was like yeah that's i like that you know i'll take that then as soon as it switched to granny slayer i was like this isn't gonna be good and then the producers would kind of play with that a little bit like after you know my interview of winning they're like so why did you think you would beat her like why did you have so much confidence going and just like you knew you were gonna beat her and i was like well i didn't i didn't say that you know but they're trying to get me to like play a part and stuff and but they were they were pretty good about all that like they were up front in the beginning they're like you know you guys are just regular people like we want to make you look good we don't want you to like we're not trying to create stories here like if you act like this we're gonna make you look like this because that's how you're acting so it was nice because it was like a lot of people just got to go on you know it's like doctors lawyers people like that there's a lot of there's some content creators on there like food people like that yeah um but it's just people kind of going on telling their story and every day like home cooks which was kind of a cool thing to see because i think in a lot of cooking shows there's a lot more ego involved and like chefs do you really feel like you're an everyday home cook though because i feel like that's what i would call myself and i look at someone with your man i i got it was it couldn't have been more perfect timing for me so like i i grew up in churchill went to high school manhattan went to college at msu i graduated manhattan montana montana montana state university amsterdam elementary montana no yeah um but i graduated he's not an international player i'm from amsterdam with school manhattan uh i graduated from msu with a finance degree okay and through college i had always cooked for my friends and like gold rush and just like started posting videos and just having fun with it then i started doing some like catch and cook stuff and i was like i really like like cooking a lot and i've had this passion for cooking and i've had this passion for cooking and i've had this passion for ever but i was like i'll never want to like make my passion my job because it'll ruin it is what i thought in my younger mind and then uh i graduated school and to get through school i had a firewood business so i was cutting firewood in the valley and like how to deal with like yellowstone national park i started in high school and it was all really good and i you know finished college graduated sold the firewood business and then i started like just working construction trying to figure it out and everyone's like why wouldn't you keep the firewood business you know i was like i don't want to cut that's what i'm wondering firewood the rest of my life i want to work with what were you getting per cord so i when i first started i was 225 for pine 275 for fur and then fur is just so questionable when you get it like you can cut into it it could be like rotten or it could be like rock hard still green uh so i just ended up switching to lodgepole pine and then i mean after covid because i started the business in high school which was my senior year so it's 2020 2019 with just like a log splitter and a chainsaw yeah and then it started growing and i got like a lot of stuff and i just switched only to like lodgepole pine and then i would just do like 16 inch cuts and it's all split delivered and like nothing else because people get specific can i see a question this is a regional question if i say to you if i say to you yeah um i would no i say to you i would like to buy a rick oh yeah do you know what i'm talking about yeah it's like a third of an actual cord exactly what it is yeah because the cord is it's uh four by four by eight which i'm not sure 16 inch logs what's the cubic 16 inch logs four by four by eight like 120 128 128 cubic feet so it doesn't matter what the measurement is as long as 128 cubic yeah but people don't want four foot logs yeah they want 16 definitely and rick is a face cord yeah that's all let's not let's not yeah i don't want to go down that hole a lot of firewood just bringing me back just made steve's day no i had no idea you were a firewood man firewood it was my my business my first business it's pretty fun i want to jump from firewood to like the final deal so the final deal how many people are left when you're going to the final what the final challenge when you got to cook your meat you're you got to cook your big meal yeah your showcase personal meal how many how many how many people are there so the last episode there's eight of us in the finale and so the night before uh it was funny they kind of told us like hey it's gonna be 80 you this is the most info we got like on the challenge what it's gonna be there's gonna be eight of us in the finale the night before i understand eight cooks yeah sorry and uh they were like this is the first time we got any info about what the challenge is gonna be about they're gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like oh my god i'm gonna be like you're gonna make breakfast lunch and dinner tomorrow okay like just think of any ideas for breakfast lunch or dinner like we're gonna throw some twists in there obviously and uh they're asking us all in this little meeting the culinary directors because they get you what you need as far as ingredients go so they're running back and forth at the store yeah yep essentially and so before we flew before i even left montana uh every cook was allowed five additional ingredients so they gave us an entire pantry list and it was just massive and i just sifted through it and they're like five things that you want that aren't on the list and so i for tar root, huckleberries, elk tenderloin, Anaheim chili peppers, and Oaxaca cheese. But this is when there's still a hundred of you. Yes, there's still a hundred of us. And so I asked for these ingredients because I was like, if I can use these and highlight these, that would just be fun for me. You know, like, this is cool. Like, there's no way they're going to find this stuff probably anyways. Send it out, get on the show. I cooked, I think, eight meals before the finale. And every time, I used, like, the Anaheim peppers and Oaxaca cheese a couple different times, like, in Mexican dishes. But the huckleberries, the tar root, and the elk, I could never find a way to make it make sense. And so I was like, I'm not going to force this in there when it's not necessary. You know, I just need to follow the challenges and hope for the best. So the night before, they're asking everybody, like, you know, what do you guys need for ingredients? And someone's like, oh, do you have, like, this sea bass? And someone else is like, oh, yeah, I might use that too. And I was like, do you guys have my elk tenderloin? And everyone around me, like, all the other cooks are like, don't worry. Like, no one's. You're going to touch your elk tenderloin. Like, we don't even know what that is. And then the lady was like, yeah, you know how hard it was to find the huckleberries too? Because this was in March. They had it. They found frozen huckleberries. And so they're like, we have your huckleberries. She's like, those took a week to get. And she's like, your elk took two weeks to get. And they kept it frozen. So it was still good. But I had no idea, like, what it looked like or anything like that. So they had all of my stuff there. The next day, eight of us start out cooking breakfast. And you have to make something stacked or stuffed. And so the day before, I had made. Like, this chili relleno-inspired pizza. And so I was like, I can't make, like, a Mexican. Like, I want to do, like, chilaquiles. But I was like, I can't do that. It's so similar to, like, yesterday's dish. Do you have family from Mexico? Yeah, my grandma and my mom are from Mexico. Great, OK. Yeah, yeah. yeah there's a lot of i figured it must be a connection yeah yeah um and so i decided to make like a tiramisu crepe and i made that and i was like i'm gonna show off that i can do like a little like dessert kind of stuff dude you're way beyond me man i don't even know where to begin on that yeah well it was it went well i survived that one and then the next one um there was five of us and they're like all right you have to highlight jalapeno or an apple in your lunch dish and terry looks at me he's like bryce what are you gonna do and i'm like like come on i obviously i'm gonna do a jalapeno like it makes sense like i'm gonna use that as my highlighted ingredient and so i made a like a shrimp ceviche tostada and i used like the jalapeno like four different ways so i did like like a uh in this the ceviche there was raw jalapeno jalapeno i did a chipotle powder which is just a dried jalapeno and i tossed the tostadas in that so they had like a dusting of that i charred a jalapeno and made like an aioli and that was like my sauce base on the bottom and then at the very end i just cut up some slices of the jalapeno and i made like a few slices and like tossed them corn starch and fried them and had like crispy jalapenos on top and survived that and so now it's just two cooks uh me and this guy doug we make it into the the finale and so right before um we go to our little break terry's like this is the final challenge it's like make a dinner worth two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars this is the most important dinner of your life and he's like you can make whatever you want and then he let us go outside for like a half an hour and we couldn't have our phones or anything like that but you just kind of sit out and wait they don't want you looking up recipes i don't maybe that like yeah that's that's a part of it like we were allowed to have a little notebook of recipes that we could write down and it had to be certain size you know all those things um so you could check that yeah you couldn't have your phone at all uh and they were resetting the kitchen too so after you cook they have to reset it so the judges come out and then they actually brought in a live audience too for the final cook so they brought a hundred people in and so when we came back in i was like oh here we go you know i thought it was gonna be just me pressure yeah um but the time i was like thinking about like what am i gonna make and it hit me right away i was like there's three ingredients i haven't used and i was like all three of those ingredients are like part of like the story of my life like that's like what i like i'm about like i elk every week you know huckleberries are from montana the tar root i got it because i had it in vietnam and i've been lucky to travel a lot like for my age and so i had tar root frites there and i was like i'm gonna incorporate that too somehow and then i did like a smoky corn puree as well like as like an ode to my grandma like i remember her flipping whole corn on the cob like her bare hands you know and so i did that as well and so i made like a seared elk tenderloin with a huckleberry reduction tar root frites and then a smoky corn puree kick dog's ass yeah dog's ass so as i was thinking about it i was like it just felt more and more like every part of it was like me in montana and then i'm like man i was like i'm gonna pitch this to the judges like this is how like i'm gonna you know this is the story of my and it was so funny because like normally i was doing pretty good i had all my stuff organized while i was cooking and i had every single bowl mixer tasting spoon like all laid out over like two benches because we had the whole kitchen and they were walking by like bryce what is going on like you have stuff everywhere and i had so many things working at the same time like getting the huckleberries reduced frying those tar root frites you gotta you gotta soak them in water to get all the toxins and all that starch out of there and i overcooked my elk tenderloin okay because i got i got them and i cut open the tar root frites and i cut open the tar root frites and i cut open the bag and it wasn't a whole tenderloin they were pre-sliced and they were like maybe an inch thick and so i saw him was like all right like i gotta be very very careful about how i cook these so i seared them hot fast and then butter basted and i was like i'll just set them in the oven let them keep warm and then i'll cut them at the end they'll have plenty of time to rest cut into them and it was like a gradient like medium to like medium well and so i cut out the medium wells you know and like tried to put as many mediums there's a little bit of medium it was it was tough because i was like it was so funny because the one thing that i should have been able to nail you know was that i like that elk tenderloin you know i should have been fine on that but thankfully i put so much work into all the other ingredients you know it highlighted like everything else and it came together as one dish and then funny enough doug he cooked a pork chop he did like a i think it was some chinese like pork chop recipe and he grabbed a big old pork chop when he pulled it out it was raw in the center so he had to cut it in half and quick pants here real quick to just get it up to ten and so when they were like you guys both overcooked your proteins i was like here we go you know it's like now it's like just based on overall at this point and i had more components um and yeah i mean i thought you know i thought i had a really good dish so do you think if you do you think if you done that pork chop perfect you to beat you that i don't know i think it's it's tough based on those two dishes alone like i feel like i put a lot into like that the work that went into that dish um and it wasn't like my my steak wasn't gray you know what i mean like it was still like edible but yeah i don't know i think it still would have been close no yeah but it definitely helped like that he also overcooked his so do they come marching out with a with a like a um giant check not so those big ones were like two people to hold them up so how it works is like i found out i won a confetti fell and everything there was some people that were in the show that were competing that like i was friends with at that point that came in the stands and watched because they hadn't flown out yet they all came down like hugged me congratulated me yeah then they like took some pictures in front of like they had this big sign with the money up because the money would go up based on like how the show worked and took some pictures of that and then it was like that was it was done i walked outside this lady came up to me handed me a piece of paper she's like sign here for like agreeing to accept the money uh sign that did interviews until like midnight and then i didn't get the check until like three weeks ago they're gonna tax that check so hard well yeah we'll see i mean they sent the whole amount so i'm sure there's gonna be some withholdings i'll have to it's just yeah like like like i was saying earlier man like someone writes you know let's see like when people win lotteries whatever if also someone's like hey bryce here's 215 000 they're gonna be like i'll take some of that yeah yeah it's just it's like that's easy money right there yeah yeah it just seems like maybe i'm wrong it just seems like they're gonna hit it with like the extra special tax well i think like the super bowl players got taxed by playing the super bowl in la by la is like california's tax like much harder than they would have somewhere else like with their winnings so i i know california has this like a stipulant on like winnings for it's still a nice chunk man what are you gonna do yeah so it was funny like what do you do with the money i mean yeah i'm gonna then i'm gonna ask you what are you gonna do he's got a finance degree he's got he doesn't have he's not gonna make any i was working in the oil fields that part of it um so yeah i was doing the construction thing after i sold the firewood business got a private chef gig just by like happen chance then that's when i was like this is what i want to do everything's like right here pursued that um doing freelance stuff and then yeah so i i realized i wanted to go to pastry school last year um i got back from my trip and i was like i need to focus up here and make some money and kind of chase this dream and so i was like how am i going to do that my brothers worked in the oil fields they hooked me up with a job and i started doing that um for pastry school to save up money for it the show came in the midst of all this oh so then i went on the show i won i didn't get any of that money like they told me they were going to give me any of the money until the last episode came out which came out in like middle of july and so pastry school was coming up in march and i was like i need to pay for this they didn't give you your scratch until nothing they gave me my i got a 50 per diem per day for dinner oh that's redundant yeah they gave me that it's pretty i've had this argument makes sense yeah is that anyways they gave me that so they sent me like 800 bucks um which was i guess nice for the time i was down there yeah um but that was it so i was like i got to go back to work you had to sign all kinds of stuff to keep your mouth so many ndas yeah like i came home i was like you can't be talking about it i was hugging terry cruz and the next day i was like on a flight back in montana like oh going back to work and sworn north dakota which was kind of nice because i was away from all of it back there but yeah i worked another month and then saved up the money so i could start pastry school okay uh then i left for france at the end of march and then the show came out in june and i got back home in july so it was kind of great like being away from bozeman and like small towns like if i go to the ridge you know someone's like did you win did you win i can't say anything so it's just hard so thank goodness i was gone you'd be like uh i didn't lose i didn't lose yeah but what i would say i was like would i have gone back to work at the oil fields if i won and then it shut everybody up right like oh yeah you would never go back to work if you won that but funny enough i just didn't have any money in the show yeah i didn't get the money yet so yeah then i did france for three months came back was still waiting on the check and then so i just three months of pastry school yeah yeah so it was in i don't want to like pry but like how expensive is three months of pastry it's not it was actually i spent a lot of time trying to find the cheapest one okay i'm just cheap at heart like they like i'm from churchill and everyone's like oh it's because you're like you're from a dutch community that's why you're cheap and i was like that's why yeah that's why my old man he would he wouldn't go to a hollanders road uh garage sale my old man yeah i knew i got you guys numbers i was raised around this man yeah so i took my time to find a cheap one and like all said and done with like housing three months and like school i think it was like 10 or 11 grand okay so it was i thought it was pretty reasonable instead of like liquor but you're just doing this as like career development and self-improvement like you're paying yeah so like i i wanted like i'm a savory chef i like cooking is what i like but in my mind i think like the best chefs are well-rounded and have you know a little bit of everything and so i was like so you're serious about this whole thing man very i would say yeah like now for sure yeah it's like my life but yeah so i did that and i came back was waiting for the show to end kind of seeing whatever opportunities came out of that and then randomly got uh like a dm to go to alaska and go cook on a yacht because their chef had like flaked out and i'd never done anything like that like the most i've provisioned for was like four days and i was like still could run back to bozeman and it was for like a couple guys at a ranch um so i got called out for that and the day before i left i got my check from the show so it was like last month i finally got the money so it took a while but nothing yeah i bought a laptop that's probably just hoarding that money that might be my biggest purchase out of it's like someone was joking the other day like your laptop's worth more than your car i was like that's how it should be but dude now you're going so you're going to spain now yeah and you're gonna work in a michelin star restaurant yeah so how long you signed up for indefinite no so how it works so it's i'm doing like a visa free travel deal and so i didn't get like a visa approved to like work there but it's essentially it's called a stage which just means like intern and french and like all chefs would know like a stage it's like you go intern at a restaurant maybe get paid like it's kind of a gray area and they're still working those things out but like i i'm almost guaranteeing i don't get paid at all yeah but the point is you're under the best chefs in the world learning like the craziest kind of knowledge technique you can take away from that and then it's also a resume builder like if i put like this is a three star if i survive which i'm really hoping i do like i can put like i work i stage at a three-star michelin restaurant and yeah adds weight to it doing private chef stuff it's like it's big for that because people are always curious you know like where are you are you classically trained have you been here you know um and so yeah i while i was in alaska cooking on the boat i got that uh opportunity um offered to me and so i was kind of just figuring out like is am i going to do this finally and it's like this is what i want to do and so yeah i leave on five days for that yeah so what do you see like in five years that's a tough question i don't what's it gonna look like i feel like i can't even do like anything past two months it's too hot yeah too much going on every i think i've been like just taking each opportunity as i can um for me the show was a huge booster just like the money obviously and then it gave me kind of the confidence and like was like solidified what i like what i think i already knew um but now it's like you know i spent a lot of time i was cutting fire i was in college like not pursuing food really like intensely and so it's just growth i think if i can just go and be a sponge everywhere and just take every opportunity to learn like even this alaska trip i had a half day in juneau which like i don't know if you guys have been to juneau but sure they don't have a whole foods or anything like that and so i had a half day to provision for two weeks worth of food for 11 people three meals a day and i've never done anything like that in my life you know and so i did that whole um experience cook for two weeks for these guests you know got a lot of fresh catch it's cooking stuff like i've never even seen before or heard of before i made my own tasting menu and like it was like a taste of alaska and it was like a six course deal for the guests it was super fun because it was just like all making up on the fly and then after that experience i'm like i learned so much i opened up kind of the yachting chef world to myself and so i don't want to say like i'm going to do this now for the next five years in the five years i want to do this or i'm going to start a restaurant because when you do those things you're kind of shackled to it for the time uh and so i feel like for me i'm 24 if i could spend like the next five years taking opportunities like that and just learning and absorbing and growing as much as i can and then go from there thinking about that money man i know a dude in southwest minnesota 600 bucks 50 cents right i think i can i think i could swing 50 cents dude congratulations it's it's great man yeah yeah you gotta be proud it's such a cool accomplishment it was cool yeah you got a whole you got like obviously you got tons of ideas yeah you got a pretty cool career laid out ahead of you yeah yeah you know the money's cool but that i think it always has been for me i think yeah like getting out of college you know i was just working whatever i could to travel and eat and taste food and everyone was kind of like you know buying houses and stuff like that and getting married and i was like am i doing the right thing here uh and then when that show came around i think every part of what i've been doing kind of got brought there your grandma is your grandma still alive yeah yeah but she's proud she was stoked yeah she's gotta be excited she loved that the chili relleno uh pizza that i made you better go cook her a nice meal man i know i gotta get back you owe her a nice meal man you owe her 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america um so i just want to hit like a few points before we do a little roundtable discussion on it um number one uh lake america implies that we have some kind of american ownership over that lake and but that's like not the case and trump doesn't have the authority to rename it and he's not going to be able to rename it and he's not going to an international body of water uh he's got it all backwards when it comes to history and geography um lake ontario is not named after the canadian province it's in fact the opposite um the word ontario has indigenous origins that go back hundreds of years uh it was in use long before the united states existed long before canada as a country existed um ontario didn't adopt the the province of ontario didn't adopt that name until 1867 um so there was obviously some reactions to all this google caved very quickly um well i just read apple cave can i just tell you right now i i put in lake america and when the on the map google maps it does say lake america but in the search bar it says lake ontario and then in parentheses america right you want to know something funny if you google it in canada it's not lake america but i don't know to say like i don't know that they cannot i don't know if they cannot do that yeah but go on doesn't matter now they caved man okay they're like yeah they're currying favor i believe sure yeah there's a kissing of the ring yeah but um getting back to the the indigenous origin so like there is a reaction from some native american groups this obviously um the wendat nation grand chef grand chief pierre picard expressed shock over to the shit the decisions he stated it was an attempt to erase indigenous history and noted that the wendat originally named the lake ontario as lake ontario and the lake ontario as lake ontario as lake ontario lake i'm gonna say ontario it's like some version of that that i may not be you know might not pronounce the right way but either way ontario means the lake is beautiful the lake is big um with all due respect i i don't think it was an attempt to erase indigenous history i don't think that was considered i get it but this is the reaction from the people that that came up with the name yes understood understood yeah that was not intentional yeah i mean i get it yeah go on it's a reaction to something important to these people uh seneca nation president uh jay conrad seneca issued a strong statement condemning the the rename as unprecedented and a sign of blatant disrespect and he noted it violates the historic 1794 treaty of i'm not going to pronounce this right canon dagua which i'm not sure exactly what that means but again it's an attempt to erase it and do it again it's an attempt to erase it and do it again history moving on from from that those points um in the united states there are at least 12 geographic locations and municipalities uh that are named ontario um you know towns or whatever countless businesses and schools also use the name ontario um this is this i think is funny because i forgot this from my childhood the great lakes are typically remembered with the acronym hong kong the great lakes are typically remembered with the acronym hong kong the great lakes are typically remembered with the acronym homes but now it would be shame superior here on america michigan yeah yeah in erie okay now i got it now shame yeah um and then we had we had maybe the most important point come in that someone pointed out yeah this this trumps all oh yeah this is the real mind bender i doubt trump's ever even heard this song if he has he wouldn't be able to tell you i don't think because you know like all the weird gold things hanging up in there in the office it just does i don't get a wreck of the edmund fitzgerald vibe no i get more liberace or something yeah like like george yeah like george w bush had like a closet full of junk they took from saddam hussein and that's like now decorating the office yeah so what we're getting at is the the song we talk about all the time gordon light what's the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald there's a line in that song and it's like a song that goes and farther below lake ontario nate move your i can't read it and farther below lake ontario takes in what lake erie can send her and steve is very upset farther below lake ontario very upset because there's just the rhyming just does not work for that i called a prominent songwriter i don't want to drag his name into this i called a prominent songwriter and i said dude what happens now with the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald he said no there's not a problem because they're both four syllables and then he thought about he goes oh there is a problem i said can you fix it for me can you propose a fix he puzzled over it for a day and then did a thing not many people do he texted and said i can't figure it out i have to move on to other things in my life he gave up trying to fix the song we brought it to reed's piano news yes how do you fix the problem for gordon lightfoot re uh can you cue it up yeah here's the best he could do lake ontario being renamed lake america everybody's asking one question and that's how is this going to affect gordon lightfoot's seven minute sea shanty the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald where he says lake ontario exactly once and i think we've got options old michigan steams like a young man's dream the islands and the bays are for sportsmen lake america sits down farther below we've got buckies and pun guns and freedom any songwriters that want to write in and take another stab at what in the world happens now to gordon lightfoot's masterpiece yeah you can't mess with that the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald like does he get a fine i know he's dead but say he wasn't does he get a fine every time he sings it i think he'd punch trump in the face well he's he's a knook i think he'd punch trump in the face yeah big news okay yanni that's all you got to say about that huh gee what more is there to say what do you do about the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald songwriters please come together i don't know no i wasn't talking about the song no i got more i got no more to say on this i'm still in shock i'm still in shock as a great lakes man an ancestral great lakes man hunters carrying sidearms for bear protection in colorado may find their caution well justified this season wow that's a real statement right there i came up with that you wrote that yeah i did it's kind of sensational isn't it exactly no i wanted i wanted my my little segment here to start off with a bang if it was sensational he would never have used the word may well that's true it wouldn't will will well i was thinking about like how does this actually relate to us because as you'll see a lot of this stuff that's happening with these bears is not really out in the in the wilds and in the past we have covered stories i think must have been so long ago there must have just been on the regular media podcast but where people were shooting themselves in colorado elk and deer camps with pistols and i think you were like why are they even carrying pistols in colorado in colorado they don't have grizzly bears yeah it's just black bear well one guy does what was his name adam green tree right he has grizzlies in colorado they're all over the place oh well yeah i kind of remember that too um low mountain snowpack active wildfires severe drought and localized late spring freeze events have heavily depleted natural food sources such as berries fruits nuts plants and grasses forcing black bears to travel into residential areas in search of easy calories okay so much so that this year um up until now well no these numbers uh go until from i found from january 1 to august 13 in 2025 there were 3 115 reports in the same time period this year 6 129 i'm gonna put that to our finance friend yeah what percentage i'll tell you bright twice as much is it is it because there's twice as many they got twice as many bears now a year later i don't think so um but interestingly uh i did look up population of black bears in colorado and it says 17 to 20 000 which i thought that's a hell of a lot of bears and i thought that's got to be like the most bears in any state besides alaska turns out no colorado is actually 10th on the list um alaska is number one then california maine idaho uh all these states have 35 to 30 000 and then oregon washington wisconsin uh 24 to like 27 000 yeah i mean that makes sense half the state of colorado is not bear country it's just like ag that's a great point man you know great point yeah yeah but i bet you there's a lot of bears out in that ag country these days i don't know more and more i mean just being back in the midwest when i was there for a wedding this past weekend like there's the same conversations we're having here now and people in colorado are having it's happening in like three rivers michigan they're like oh yeah there was a bear that came in to you know walk through the walmart parking lot or something like that um let's see where was i uh yeah it's about to hit like the the the main time of year when when colorado or any state has a lot of human and bear encounters and that's because bears are going into hyperphagia phil remember this oh yeah dude this is the early days blast from the past for you you guys know the word um hyperphagic heard it he's like eating a whole bunch yeah so yeah like They say that in the fall they go into a hyper-phagic state. around the clock now thinking back on it we have watched them where they're so focused on eating that then when they're in a spot that doesn't have food they run like watch them digging ground squirrels and they just run from burrow to burrow like when they get done with one burrow and catch the squirrel because there's nothing in between so what's this yeah so maybe she just was up in that rocky junk because now that she's just down there pounding blueberries like nobody's business and has no idea about this gut pile so it's like she's just like i'm not gonna stand here with nothing to eat i'm gonna run which seems like its own sort of inefficiency like you're consuming energy but they must just have it they worked out the math on it that's good phil do you know what the thank you phil oh yeah that's a good episode what was that one called you remember no it's fun that was a fun one hyperfagic you were there too oh yeah what were you doing on that one you're just wpa nice dude all in caribbean meet around watching out for grizzly bears dirt climbed out of the tent one night take a piss it's never really dark out it's kind of dusky he climbs out take a piss that was a grizzly standing in the middle of the tent it was her with her cup it was the same man yeah um yeah hyperfagia so they're trying to eat a whole bunch they got no berries no grass nothing in the woods so they're so dry they're running from trash can to trash cam um in like the last month or so uh there was a steamboat springs residents attack where bear uh went through a sliding glass door and then struck a woman in the face uh in aspen in a park uh he entered a sliding glass door or went through a sliding well he opened the door actually um yeah got it uh in a park in aspen at 3 a.m uh on august 19th a bear bit a homeless man in the head no um yep bear was euthanized for doing that one down in uh crested butte a bear got into a house and then started a kitchen fire there was one in eagleville where you and i used to i got attacked in a laundromat there like something like that it was the last thing on your mind at a laundromat man it was something it had something to do i've been in laundromat long since graduate school but when i was i was not thinking about bear attacks um so they're around i was hoping to talk to somebody i didn't get cpw didn't get back to me about this because my main question was like why it just seems like this happens from time to time that you know the bears are just going to be hammering the trash cans more but this year just seems like there's way more attacks actually on the humans it's not just encounters it's like why why are they mix-ups biting swiping um actually messing with the humans so my main question uh there is a new uh angry law in colorado that just took effect and they're basically the law is making it so that instead of getting a ticket for like knowingly baiting a bear which you can't do um now you can get a ticket for just basically knowingly leaving food out that you know a bear could come in contact with god so if you if you're part of the problem they can hit you they don't have to give you a first-time warning and uh looks like subsequent penalties can go from two to five thousand dollars so this this could be like a bird feeder or is it just like garbage really i mean i think it it's up to the uh right you know the warden's probably going to be issuing the ticket um oh if they got to talk to you three times two to five thousand dollar fine yeah which is good i think i got a neighborhood be eligible for that i mean they get visited all the time i don't know about how where it was yeah and i don't think that we have this in bozeman but i don't know how it was down in eagleville where you were but when we were up valley like we had to have those bear proof trash containers eagle was not it didn't i wouldn't be surprised if it does now my brother is in salida none just regular old trash cans he says every morning right now when he takes a dog out for early morning walk he just goes down the alley every single trash can is knocked over got it i don't know why like that isn't more of a thing like you don't have to have where you are no but we used to put in the winter we put it out the night before in the summer you can't do that you got to wait and then rush it out there right when you think the dude's coming which means you'll miss the garbage all the damn time i'm sitting on i'm sitting on a two-week load right now for this very reason yeah that highland boulevard area over in bozeman is where i lived in college and we'd have a black bear go down the whole road like like every week and just take out each trash can yeah so i imagine that i mean this is all sort of uh urban interface but there's plenty of bears still left out and about in the woods they're gonna be facing these same challenges sure what do you think hunters are gonna or should do season opened yesterday in colorado for bears uh-huh okay so i guess there's that there's like what do you do if you're a bear hunter and what if you do if you're an elk hunter trying to not have a mix-up with a bear those bears still gotta drink water like hunt you know i mean hunting water you're gonna find bears i i can't and never will as long as i live i don't care what happens ever find it myself to take a black bear serious enough to carry black bear defense i'm not gonna do it i don't care what happens oh you said to stay bear safe i thought you said how to get one i'm not worried about staying safe in colorado well maybe not you so you're not if you were to go hunt and you're going to have a tent camp like a back not a back country just a wall tent camp the let's say the flat tops right for a week would you do you wouldn't do anything else that you already that you don't do i mean i wouldn't leave food laying around but no no like i i don't think i don't think these few attacks are like a sign that bears are going to be jumping dudes in the woods like all over the place yeah i'll put my food somewhere in my sleeping bag i cannot find it myself to get scared of a black i mean i've i've been backpack tent camping in colorado and had them walking around my tent at night it's like not but this year is different they don't have any food to eat i still don't think they're going to start eating people brody was wondering if this means good or bad for bear hunters like does it mean that the habits change so it's like harder to anticipate them or does it mean that they're out just more visible just roaming yeah roaming yeah yeah you think they'd be more visible that's what i would think um but the thing about colorado too check this out the other day the other day i don't know why he's keeping quiet about it he sends me he sends me a way off nate sends me a way off video um where he's looking at the baldest 10 000 foot gravel ridgeline he's like is that a wolverine he sends me a little clip because like what the hell is he running around up there well he gets home and is able to look at it on something and it's a little in black bear way up dude there's a little shit in black bear way up dude there ain't no way bush in sight you know i mean not even a bush he's up there eating rocks dude and he's just probably dying and i wonder if it was that do they do the moth thing that the grizzlies do he was traveling but i don't know um he was hurt yeah i don't know i i'm putting a lot on him i don't know what he was doing he was by himself he was small but that was like 10 minutes after an antelope rolled by at 10 5. i'd never seen an antelope up that high it was crazy maybe he's hunting antelope but the thing i was getting at in colorado is i mean you've seen it especially down in southern colorado is they've got all that oak brush so like a berry failure isn't a total end of the world because they can go to those acorns but the berry fairly very very failure here they don't got acorns to turn to so i think they're going to be out running around a bunch and be good hunting okay all right everybody *knock on door* *knock on door* now earlier i talked about how if you're gonna if you're fixing to get a suppressor don't want the government telling you what to do now might be the time to strike why how certain am i stay tuned for this interview which is going to close the show out we're not coming back to say goodbye stay tuned you're going to learn a whole bunch and 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Okay, we're moving over to a report about, you know, the sort of never-ending regulatory shifts around suppressors, which some of you folks, you know, from old movies might know as silencers. But suppressors, things you put on the end of your gun, on the end of your muzzle of your rifle, so that you and your children don't have to damage your ears when you go shooting. It's a phenomenal, phenomenal invention. I think one should sit in every gun case out there. It's a shifting, you know, like I said, rapidly shifting environment around these things. Hopefully in the long run, we're just headed to a place where you can just go into a sporting goods store or go online or whatever and just get yourself one. But you got to jump through certain hoops. The hoops have changed. I feel like it's good news, but I don't really know. It's confusing. Me and Nate Mason were just talking about that these regulatory changes around suppressors are confusing. But here to clear it all up is the man for the job, got a prize that knows more about this than anybody, Brandon Maddox, who's the founder and CEO of Silencer Central. So this guy has to pay attention to this stuff. I'm going to intro it like this, and he's going to explain what this means. He's here with us. This is in my notes. Here's what it says. A federal judge in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas ruled in Silencer Shop Foundation v. ATF that key National Firearms Act registration requirements for items like suppressors and short-barreled rifles are unconstitutional because Congress previously reduced the NFA transfer tax stamps to $0. If you took all 360, whatever the number is, million Americans out there, I think that 359,999,950 don't know what that means. Brandon, can you explain what that means? Sure. Good question. So basically what happened is a big, beautiful bill got rid of the tax stamp. Tax stamp had been $200 since 1934. And when the tax stamp went away, some gun rights groups got together and said, let's sue the federal government and say that the registration of silencers is unlawful because there's no longer a tax. Congress had written underneath the tax code, and since it was underneath the tax code, the assumption being that there should be some tax revenue. And when it went to zero, there was no tax revenue. So when you say the $200 thing is like, if you go, like if I went to, if I went to you, or I go to Silencer Central and I'm shopping, like part of the process is I need to pay, I previously had to pay this 200 bucks. Yeah, correct. From like 1934 up till December 31st of 2025. So essentially January 1st of 2026, there was no tax stamp. Um, what does this mean going forward? Like who, who all does it apply to? Is it just Texas now? Like, like who does this have implications for? Yeah, good question. So, you know, basically the, um, the judge and his ruling gave a list of, you know, basically the plaintiffs that had sued the government. And he said any of those plaintiffs and there's, you know, a long list of them and then anyone, um, that is current member or future member. So, uh, what we see is, you know, we basically joined one of the other organizations. Uh, one of them was like a Texas rifle, uh, association that was a subsidiary of the NRA. So, you know, we joined that and some of the others. So once you join it, then, uh, you as a dealer have the same benefits, uh, that the, you know, basically the, the ruling created. Um, you know, where, where it gets interesting is there's 15 states currently, that, that have state laws that say, uh, you have to follow the federal registration process or your silencer is unlawful. So unfortunately there's 15 states out there that until they correct that language, they're in a position where they still have to go through the old process. Are those, are those states like lefty States or righty States? Jen? No. So I mean, it's, it's, it's sort of a big combination of both. I mean, um, you know, Montana's on the list, believe it or not. Oh, okay. You know, yeah, Alaska is, um, Georgia, you know, some of these states that are, on there, it basically, it was a way to create a state law that was, um, relying on the federal law. It basically just said, you know, South Dakota had this law and the silencer central worked to fix it in 2026. We also helped fix Kansas. So there was two States previously, but in simplest terms, mostly what these States say is that again, you got to go through the federal process, get your silencer registered through the NFA process for it to be legal in this state. Well, if the NFA process goes away, then it ends up being, um, you know, illegal to own it and possess it. And the state, so the state's going to have to change their state laws. Oh, I got it. But, but I feel like without getting too, without getting too speculative here, I feel like if, if the fed, if the feds remove the process and make it that you can't do the process and a state says you have to do the process to be legal. I feel like those state courts would pretty quickly get like that ruling would get struck down because you're, you're asking people to do a thing that they can't do. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, that's a good point. I, you know, looking at some of these states that, um, you know, might like Connecticut's one of them, um, you know, Colorado's one, Georgia's kind of a purple state, Oregon, Washington state. So there's some states where it could be hard, harder, harder. They might fight it. They might even create their own state laws that, you know, that that's one concern too, is that, you know, we saw where, um, you, Virginia tried to put a $500 tax earlier this year, on silencers when they saw the $200 tax went away. So you're kidding me. No, it didn't last too long, but it was, I mean, it made, it made a Virginia, our number one state behind Texas really quick, just because everyone was worried about that. So if federal law goes away completely, far as the regulation of silencers through the NFA process, it could open the door for blue states to create their own rules. They could create their own tax stamp. They could create their own processes. They could, you know, outright outlaw them if they wanted, or they could leave some of these state laws on the books and then make it hard. But, you know, we see this process could stay in place for a while. What if, when you look at these states that like, like Virginia to add this, that tried to add this $500 tax to a suppressor, what I'm asking you to put on a, I'm asking you to like put on a funny hat here. Cause I'm asking you like what, what is the primary argument that they have? Like what is the primary problem that they have? With suppressors? Yeah, it's a fair question. I mean, obviously they see that the Republicans took away the $200 tax, so they see it as a way to generate revenue for some other, you know, pet project. Okay. No, it's a good point. I mean, if you, if you really dig in and look at the you know, crimes that are committed with silencers almost a hundred percent of the time, if a crime is committed with a suppressor, they didn't go through the process. They made their own they didn't go through any kind of background check. So, You know, it's it's not it's not considered a public safety issue, you know, Before Trump got in in 2017, ATF even said, hey, we'd be interested in looking at a way to deregulate these, which sort of fueled the idea that eventually they could become deregulated because even the ATF felt like they were overregulated, at least at that time. Yeah. You know, I think I've made this point to you. I know I've made it on the show before, but I always think like, imagine that for whatever reason, the laws of physics were such, or the early technologies were such that guns just were about as loud as they are with a suppressor on them. It's magical thinking, but just imagine that a rifle naturally was about as loud as it is with a suppressor on it now. Would they have made laws saying you had to make your gun louder? Yeah, of course not, right? No, no, so I'm saying, it's like, where is this thinking that they just need to be a certain decibel level so that the people around them need to risk having hearing damage? Like, is it like a way to get you? Is it like, I know how to fix shooters. I'll make it that they have hearing damage. Like, I just like, I don't understand the motivation. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the, you talk about like blue states, a lot of the blue states have a reputation of, of sacrificing at times, sacrificing personal liberty on the part of public safety, saving you from yourself, regulating what you buy. Like, you know, you can't buy certain kinds of fishing sinkers because lead could be toxic, but, but we would like your guns to be really loud. Yeah, it makes no sense. I, yeah, it's hard to, you know, I think about the same thing with like, you know, the modern sporting rifles that, you know, they, they, they don't necessarily have any data for those, and they still kind of go after those. I do find that some of these states are responding well when I'm doing like testimony at the state level that in Europe, these are completely unregulated. I mean, they have a serial number, but you can buy them over the counter in Europe. There's not, it's not considered a firearm. There's no background check. You just walk in and get one, even like in a hardware store or something. So for some reason, the politicians kind of respond to that. They're like, oh, really? Okay. Well, maybe it's not as bad as I thought, but still. It's unfortunate that they don't see it as like you're saying, it's just basically hearing protection. The other story I tell all the time, the first time I ever shot a suppressed rifle was 15 years ago. Well, yeah, it was exactly, it was 15 years ago. The first time I shot a suppressed rifle, I was in Scotland. We were doing, we were culling red deer on an estate. We were shooting a suppressed rifle. I said, I was ignorant to the subject back then. I said, I can't believe you guys can hunt with these. He said, I can't believe you guys can hunt with these. I can't believe you guys cannot hunt with these. And he was telling me, it's impossible for us to get a gun. It's easy for us to get a suppressor. I'm like, well, we play the opposite game in America. True. It is the weird, it is like one of those things that's so, to me, the issue is so like, it's so glaringly obvious that these are a safe, beneficial tool for people to like, to increase safety, to protect kids. Like, it's just a beneficial tool. It's so glaringly obvious that I, it's one of those ones where it's hard for me to get in the head of people that oppose them. And usually I take some pride and be able to like articulate opposing viewpoints of mine. I'm kind of stumped. I'm always kind of stumped with these guys. But so back to the matter at hand here, though. The details at hand. Is it that, like right today, is it that in some states you can now, I could now go to you and buy a suppressor and just buy it like I'm buying ammo and it just comes to me in the mail? Or is that not true right now? Yeah, good question. It's kind of based on state. But like, so, you know, here in South Dakota, you know, because we changed our law here. In South Dakota earlier in the year, people can walk right into Silencer Central, purchase a silencer, but they still do the 4473, like the same background check you would do to buy a rifle or handgun. Sure, sure. They do that. We do a background check. If they have a concealed carry, we don't have to do a background check. And then they can leave with it. Okay. So then it's just like, it's just like if you were a gun shop, like for me to go to, for me to go to a physical silencer central location. Yep. I can get a suppressor in South. Dakota, the same way I can go in and buy a shotgun. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. Okay. But what about, what about online shopping? Yeah, good question. So, um, there's 37 states where if you have a concealed carry, there's no background check. So we can mail them silencer directly to you there. You would just do the 4473 via like DocuSign. And then also, um, you know, if you have a local dealer that's willing to do a transfer for you, we can sell the silencer to you, ship it to them, and then they can do a local transfer as well. If I, okay, tell me a state that has the state, tell me a state that has the state rule still in place. Montana. You said Montana, okay. So, uh, this is getting a little nuanced here, a little detailed, but okay. I go to you, I'm a Montana resident and I'm visiting in South Dakota and I'm like, man, I'm going to go over to silencer central and check out everything. And I'm going to, and I'm going to buy a suppressor. Is that cool or not cool? So the process would be what we kind of. I call it the old process, the form four. So the same way that, you know, you've done it since 1934, you still have the hold and it would, it would eventually come to my, it would eventually ship to my local FFL. Well, no, we'd ship it right to your house. You should write in my house. Yeah. How long would I have to wait for that? Um, right now we see approvals like three or four days. Oh, okay. So way different than it was like two years ago for people that try. Yeah. It used to be a long time. Yeah. So it's gotten better. Yeah. Okay. So the difference. When I registered my first suppressor, I remember it was quite a long time ago. It went and, uh, I gave a local, I did. I remember I was using Bob wards, local Bob wards as an FFL. I think it sat there. You probably remember better than me several years, five years ago, whatever the hell. I think it sat there for 13 months. Oh, wow. Yeah. Forever. So 200 bucks. It sat there. I mean, for a year, I think it was, I hit like a terrible time in the backlog. Yeah. It sat there for. Yeah. Yeah. 200 bucks sat there forever. Finally, I was able to go get it. We're at least now at a point where even if I'm in one of these states you're talking about, I can, or I can do mail order. Like I, I could go to silencer central, buy a suppressor and then, and then in, in several days it's going to ship to me and I'm, and I don't have the 200 bucks. Correct. Yeah, exactly. Yep. So the tax stamp went away and it's a whole lot quicker. Yeah. Um, you know, if you go through a trust, it can take a little bit longer just cause they have to reread it, you know, make sure everything's good. But, um, yeah, if you do it as an individual, it's a little bit quicker, but yeah, I would say most people are getting them in a couple of weeks. What, what do you think is going to happen? Like, let's just run a scenario where, uh, let's run a scenario where a Democrat, uh, a pro gun control Democrat comes in, in, in, in what the hell is it going to be? 2028. Like a pro gun control Democrat comes in, in 2028. Is it like one of those things where you just. Sign a paper and this whole thing gets reversed. Yeah. Good question. Because it's not, because it's not like an act of Congress. Well, good question. So, I mean, that's my concern is that this is tied up in, um, you know, litigation. Like you said, you get the worst case scenario would be a Democrat and the white house and Democrats run the Senate and the house. Yeah. So the big, beautiful bill went through, uh, just a simple majority vote through the, through Congress. So. I mean, they could pick a number that's inflation adjusted and say, it's $5,000 for a tax stamp. Um, and then it would go into effect, you know, whenever they pick and basically the whole market would collapse and then, you know, so they could get punitive, like they could get like vengeful if they wanted to. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. It'd be easy too. Cause they only have to have majority. So if they have, you know, I wouldn't be planting ideas in their head, like you're doing. Right now. Yeah, no other people in the industry have told me about it, which got me scared. Cause it's sort of like, you know, it's sort of a whack-a-mole as soon as you, you know, the best scenario would have been if Congress had done the hearing protection act, then it would have gotten rid of all these state issues. Cause it was written in there to sort of kind of trump the state issues, which would have been beneficial, but to kind of have it back door to the courts, I think no, you know, the other thing we didn't mention is that although the judge came up with this, he gave a seven day sort of stay or pause, he basically said, I'm going to give a seven day pause. To give a chance for the federal government to respond. And I tell you, everyone I talked to, I consider experts at this from a legal and also in the industry. A hundred percent of them said there's zero chance the ATF doesn't appeal this and they didn't. So by them not appealing it and not staying in, it just opened the door for that ruling became instant. So, I mean, there's a lot of things came out of the blue. Like, I don't know if anyone would have thought the tax stamp would go to zero. Then I don't think that anyone would have thought the lawsuit would actually win. I mean, you could argue that in Texas, North Texas. Yeah. I could see a judge going that way, but then for the Trump administration and DOJ and ATF to not even respond and for it to open the door just because it creates so much chaos. Because like I said, it's, you know, some people are protected, some aren't, some states have issues, some don't. I mean, it's a big. quagmire it creates a huge issue for everyone a huge issue for atf from a regulatory standpoint huge issue for us dealers in the industry to try to figure out where the market's going yep um yeah it's created a mess i i but yeah thinking worst case scenario that could happen um you know i guess the atf could just completely back away and not challenge it but then another um you know like i said another administration could come in and change the tax stamp to you know whatever five thousand dollars each or whatever they want and then that's the new norm and the whole market would collapse oh man it seems like right now if you're kicking around getting a suppressor now's the time to strike man it's like it could get better but it could get worse you know what i'm saying yeah no totally especially on the state issues there's some of those states where um you know it's illegal to state law because if eventually the federal law goes away completely then they've got an issue that they may not be able to fix on the state level yeah and if you get one now i'm guessing it's like you know they're never going to do something where they come clawing it back but hey whatever happened to the hearing aid the hearing protection act because i would have pictured if you could get one like if it had a chance it would have been over the last two years where here you have you know uh republican administration republicans have the house republicans have the senate if they couldn't get that son of a past now like why not i mean come uh you know after the november elections it's going to look a lot prospects for that are going to look a lot dimmer ever getting that across the finish line you know it's unfortunate i think that just having to get the majority because they would have needed you know the two-thirds votes or whatever in the congress they just didn't have enough votes there's just the there's there's republicans that have a majority in the um senate in the house but it's just not a big enough majority to really pass anything if you look most things aren't really passing yeah the only reason the budget passes because they just need a simple majority i understand i understand and also it's like it's there's a there's a probably a priority set right and it's just yeah you know probably for a couple of weeks you're going to be able to get a majority of the votes that you're going to get and you're going to be able to get a majority of the votes that you're going to get and you're going to be able to get a majority of the votes that you're going to get like yeah to people to people besides guys like you and me it probably feels very fringe yeah true right yeah like what it's an educational opportunity for us to educate you know elected officials yeah well man thanks for coming on and explaining that i don't you know i i hear what you're saying though it's i i hear you on the on the uncertainty um but i mean do you do you agree with the assessment like from a professional perspective do you agree with the assessment that i don't know like is your is your advice to people hey wait because the it could get better or is your advice to people like i don't know it could get worse quick i don't see it getting any better i mean yeah i mean because right now there's a lot of states that you know you could potentially just do a 4473 like i said if you have a concealed carry in 37 states we can mail a silencer right to your front door just doing a 4473 through the mail um yeah i can't see it getting any better i can only see it getting worse especially in those states where their state they got a state law they got to fix that um yeah and if this stays unresolved which i think it potentially could through to a democrat administration then that's a problem so um when uh obama first got in he changed it where he wanted fingerprints and photos for everyone that was on a trust that bought a silencer and in the past that wasn't the case because it used to be considered a corporation and there was no fingerprints or photos for corporations that drove the greatest demand that i'd ever seen just that fear of law so that that that is definitely something that people respond to and afraid that they couldn't get them in the future so um these dudes watch these dudes watch too many movies where the bad guys got like a pistol that goes do you know what i mean yeah oh 100 it's like they watch too many they're like oh that that's yeah you know the gun's like you know like yeah that's no good it's like dude it's just not like that you know it's crazy uh so my kids are uh 11. the change is so often i can't remember but like 11 13 16 11 13 16. my kids yeah every year they've never shot they've never shot a rifle that wasn't suppressed i'm not joking my my older one has now but my 11 my 13 they've never shot rifles that weren't suppressed perfect they're not scared of them like they are not scared all the flinching and crying and all that they are not scared of rifles they love it that's awesome yeah so i do feel like um whatever happens i feel like there's a shift you know there's like there's a sort of shift that you know dope smokers will appreciate this when they started like legalizing all that there's like a shift that's just gonna be hard to put back you know what i'm saying it's gonna be hard to go down the road like as my kids become like voting age or whatever and other shooters it's gonna be hard it's gonna seem like lunacy to them true when someone says oh no no no we want your gun to be real loud it's just it's gonna seem crazy to them because they were raised on it it wasn't like me where they're in their 40s or whatever you know when when they discover this it's just going to be very second nature to them that like that that's what it is like that's how shooting is that's how rifles are yeah i agree yeah all right man thanks for coming on and explaining that to us thanks for having me sir i 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